MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 55 Post-Fight Show | Did Holly Holm Get Robbed In Main Event?

Episode Date: May 22, 2022

Ketlen Vieira picked up the biggest UFC win of her career, but it certainly will go down as a controversial one. Following Vieira's split decision win over Holly Holm in the main event of UFC Vegas 55, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee react to the five-round contest, figure out if Holm was robbed by the judges, and other storylines coming out of Saturday's card at the APEX.  Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. This isn't it. And Mayweather Moore. Oh, yeah, it may weather. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's part of this too. Okay. Well, here we are.

Because that's the only reason I'm here. That's the only reason I'm here. Well, the music is very exciting for a card that has created a little bit of controversy, especially in this main event. In the end, it'll go in the books as a split decision win for Ketland, Vietta over Holly Holme and Twitter is fired up. Now, I decided to stop scoring the fight after the fourth round and I just made a bold, not really a bold proclamation, but an accurate proclamation that two things are going to

happen. One, we're going to go to a split decision and two, most people are going to be pissed off about it. And I think we definitely accomplished both of those things because Ketland Vera won and Twitter is on fire about it because a lot of people scored this fight for Holly Holm, but she didn't win. It's going on the books as a win for Ketland Vieira, a massive win for her. And let's talk about it.

I am Mike Eck. I am joined by the Prince of Positivity, Alexander Cayley, who got to cover some wild boxing today. How are you, my friend? Listen, we got a special poll up for anyone. Anyone who was, it might be a bit, I don't know if anyone is up now that was still watching the Mayweathermore slash, you know, Anderson Silva fought on the car. thing. So there was a 90-minute break between the second fight of the undercard that went down in Abu Dhabi today and the Anderson Silva appearance. And during that 90 minutes, they played the same

three or four Abu Dhabi tourism slash propaganda ads over and over and over and over and over again. So the poll, if anyone wants to see the poll, it just says, summer in Abu Dhabi, it's It's everything you want and so much more than you'd expect. And right now it's everything you want is leading at 50%. So people, I heard that phrase. So I know you're saying like, why didn't he just mute it? It's like, well, because I'm doing other things. And then like, so I kept the sound on just in case they're like, oh, Andrew Silva's coming out now.

So I had to hear the same ad over and over and over again. And it drove me literally insane. Well, I'm glad you have survived all of that. And you are here with us. So we'll talk a little bit about the Anderson's. silver boxing match and the Floyd Mayweather boxing match in a little bit, but we need to start at this main event, AK, Caitlin Vieira defeats Holly Holme, and you are our resident robbery reviewer, if you will. Is this a fight you are going to go back and watch to do a robbery review on?

Did you watch it with everything you had going on today? And if so, is this one you're going to go back and watch again to do a robbery review? Yeah, yeah, I will. No, I will. I will because, again, And, you know, robbery criteria can, there's a bunch of reasons to want to do it. Sometimes it's just the way because I feel. But also, when there's this much public uproar, then you have to do one because it, robbery review is sort of meant to reflect the reaction of the general populace, which is why when, if anyone read those articles, I put in a lot of like people's reactions. Because I want people to have context for like, oh, why are we doing this?

Because sometimes there's fights so obvious. Why are you, it's not a robbery? Why are you doing it? And it's like, well, because, I mean, I might not think it's a robbery, but I don't think a lot of fights are robbery. So I have to see what a lot of fights are saying. The media very much disagreed. Casey showed the M.A decisions graphic on the post-fight press conference show,

and it was like 18 out of 20 or something like that. There you go, thanks, Casey. Put it up for Holly Home. That's like 80, 80, 85% of the media who scored the fight for Holly Home. So clearly, whether I agree or not, there is a discussion that it's a robbery. I was checking the replies. I was checking – I threw up a poll. I'll read the results right now on M.A.

fighting on our Twitter. 81% say Holly Holie Holm won the fight. So again, I don't know if I agree that it's a robbery. I even scored it for Holm. But a lot of people are saying it's a robbery. So yeah, I'll definitely take a look at it. It has to review. And it's one that really does need to be watched closely

because it's like, you know, was Holly Holm just clinching or was she doing damage in the clinch? When they were exchanging, were they exchanging evenly or was Vietta landing the harder shots? So I think at a first glance, depending on which fighter style you preferred more, I think it's really easy to say, oh, Veyra one, it wasn't close.

Or Holly Holme one, it wasn't close. But I think if you watch it again, you can really understand why either score is like totally fair. So I lean towards home. I'll do a robbery review. I think you guys can tell I'm sort of leaning towards I don't think it was a robbery,

but you'll probably find out on Monday. Yes. I mean, numbers don't always tell the whole story. Holly Holm definitely outlanded and Ketland Vera throughout the 25 minutes. I think it's pretty clear that when Ketland landed, it meant more because there were points where Holly was kind of on wobbly legs at a couple of times.

It wasn't to any point where it's like, oh, my God, she's badly hurt. But there were a couple of shots that Kettlin Vera landed that definitely got her attention and definitely had her changing pace a little bit. So overall, A.K., are you excited to go back and rewatch this main event to do this robbery review? I actually kind of am because, but again, I'm, you know, when I'm doing a robbery review, I get to kind of look at it in a different way and kind of have fun with it because it is it is fun to scrutinize and sort of pick apart every little thing that happened. I mean, remember, this is a luxury that the judges do not have.

So I am very like, I probably have been pretty lenient with criticizing judges over the last like year or so or 18 months whenever I started doing rivalry review, even before that. Because again, we bring it up a bunch of times. Yes, the judges have a monitor they can see, but they're also pretty much trying to watch the fight from their angle, depending which angle of the cage they're at, they're going to see things differently, they're going to see things land with different impact. And again, they don't have the benefit of replay, and they don't always have the best angle.

So when I do Riber Review, it is rarely, except in the case of like, Diego Sanchez-Vros Pearson, it's rarely meant to be an indictment of the judges because they don't have that luxury. Because I'll be watching, I'll be pausing, I'll be replaying sequences. So, yeah, I'll be watching the fight very, very differently.

And in that sense, I do kind of enjoy it. I do enjoy picking it apart. But, like, is this a fight? I'd watch again just like put it on because there's something to do. Probably not, but like it wasn't the worst fight ever. And I do think there's, um, there's value to analyzing it and trying to figure out why it was scored the way it was. I know we're going to make our official picks for matchmaking on onto the next one.

Tomorrow morning when we record this program. But Caitlin Vieira came out and said, I want a title shot. I want the winner of Giuliana Pena versus Amanda Nunes. And if Giuliana Pena wins, maybe there's a case to be had. But even though Ketland Vieira won, and I know we don't want to count our chickens before they hatch, June 11, Valentina Schochenko is getting ready to defend her title against Talas Santos. And I think most of us feel very confident that Valentina Shufchenko, however she does it, is going to win this fight and retain the title. So even though Ketland-Vierra won, is Valentina Shepchenko the biggest winner here?

If she goes out there and beats Talasantos, does she have a very very very? very strong case right now without Holly Holm in the picture that she might go after a second title at the end of the year. I mean, Valentina, I think, has been wanting to do that for a while. She's also been enjoying just defending the flyweight title, but she's always wanted that third Amanda Nunes fight. She feels she won the second one. A lot of people feel she won the second one, which I always think is a super, again, that's a coin toss fight for me, super close. But somehow, the further we get away from that fight, the more people think it was like, oh, Shifshanko clearly won. That's a whole other discussion.

So she's always wanted that fight. Dana White's been kind of wishy-washy on it. You know, it's come up a bunch of times after Valentina fights, after Mennonis fights. And he's never quite committed to it, maybe because he remembers how bad the second fight was. Also because, you know, I guess he thought, well, both women still have a reasonable line of challengers.

I don't know if that was the case with Mennonis after a while. Yeah, Schenko, look, again, she should have first priority when it comes to getting a Bantamaita shot if she wants it. But now that we have a date for the Julianne at Peña Amanda Neunes rematch, UFC 27 July 30th. If Peña loses, I think they'd go with the rematch, right? I think they'd do the trilogy.

Pena and Nunez, right? Yeah, so then I don't know. Schochenko loves to stay busy. I don't think she's going to want to wait around. She probably defends her title again. And yet, I also don't think that Bayada did enough to necessarily guarantee herself a title shot. Not to say she can't get it. It's very possible nothing happens in 135 over the next four or five months.

And again, Schochenko decides to defend. the flyway title instead. And, you know, maybe Pena is still the champion and she needs a challenger. They would throw Viata in there. They would throw it in there. Again, it would be a tough sell, but she has put herself. She didn't have to put herself on the short list. Not a surefire number one contender, but she's right, right near the front.

And I would just tell people, don't be surprised if she somehow, because if her next fight is for the UFC title. Back to Holly Holm, one of the big questions heading into this fight was the layoff. the age 40 years old now hasn't fought since October of 2020 how will she look will she look 40 while she's fighting in there and there were some occasions throughout the broadcast where they felt like holly was a little bit slower than she normally is and we always talk about father time and how it's undefeated did you feel like holly holm didn't really look like herself do you do you feel like she looks slow in there tonight because the the broadcasters especially dc feldar and dean Thomas especially felt that Holm looked pretty slow tonight. Did you agree with that?

Yeah, listen, it's it's the defense that goes. Just like in, you know, I watched a lot of basketball. Just like, let's look at, here's an example. I'm not comparing Holly Holie Holm to this guy, but let's like a look at LeBron James. LeBron James this year was phenomenal offensively, defensively maybe one of the five, 10 worst players in the league. And again, you probably have to watch the games to know what I'm talking about, but like he literally has kind of just stopped playing defense. Because that's what's going to go. You know, you have to defense requires like quick reflexes and things like that. That's the first thing, you know, fast twitch muscles. That's what goes when you start getting older. So Holly Home, a lot of times tonight, it looked like the old Holly Home.

I think offensively she had moments again. Her clinch work always great. Her athleticism or strength, her ability to just kind of get a hold of Veda and just kind of push it to the fence and hold her there and go to work against the fence. That was still there. That was still there. But she wasn't quite able to get out of the way of things like she used to or at least like, you know, slip punches like she used to. She got hit clean a lot more so than in any fight. had since again, well, some of the fights she lost.

And then the last time she felt Valentina, who Valentina really picked her apart. And I wouldn't put Viata striking on the level of Valentina Shropchenko. So Valentina is much, excuse me, Kelton's very much improved, but for her to be landing clean shots like that and occasionally lighting Holly Home up like that tells me that that Vyatta's improved and also Holly Home

just declining a little bit. And look, 80% of Holly Home is still a great fighter, but I just, it is hard. It is hard to be, look, she turned 40 years old, a lot of combat sports mileage in boxing and MMA and a long layoff. So I thought she looked pretty good tonight, but I don't blame the commentators at all for pointing out that, yeah, she might have lost a step,

especially when it comes to avoiding damage, because she got hit a lot tonight by Kettlin Baeira. She was pretty deflated after the defeat, future uncertain, one step forward, another step back is what she said. She's very adamant. She won that fight, not thrilled with the two judges who didn't score it for her. And I thought Caitlin Vieira is,

comments were pretty interesting as well. She thought Holly Holm tapped during that rear naked choke. That was super close. And if we're going to give Holly Holm any credit at all in this fight, I think probably the turning moment in the fight or one of the most, probably the most significant moment of the fight was that choke in Holly Holm getting out of there because I didn't think there's any chance she was getting out of there. It looked like this fight was was a wrap for Kettlin Vieira, but somehow Holly Holm wheels her way through. I didn't see any tap there. Maybe Caitlin, I didn't really see anything. Maybe Catlin felt something in the moment, the heat of battle, if you will.

But I didn't see a tap. You didn't, right? No, I didn't think so. Again, I think that is just a credit to Holly Holmes' toughness. She's really difficult to put away. We were saying on the preview show that she's only lost to Misha Tate, Germain de Rondomi, Chris Cyborg, Amanda Nunes, like Valentinoza, Chichenko, the best of the best, the best.

So she's really tough to put away. Like, Viata choking her out would have been shocking. I mean, I know Ketland Bay is a really good grappler. It would have been shocking for her to just put, because even Misha Tate, she won by submission. That was in the fifth round, right? So, no, it didn't surprise. I didn't think there was a Phantom Tap. Initially, I thought she grabbed the fence, but she very lately kind of just had her hand against it.

They showed the replay. Yeah, it was kind of a chaotic sequence. I can see why people might have thought, Phantom Tap. I can see people like me might have thought, oh, she grabbed the fence or something to get out of there. But no, it was just kind of some flailing. and then her kind of calming herself and being a very funny way to kind of get her shoulder in there

and just turn her way into the choke and then get out of there. But yeah, Bayetta had that grip on tight. That was, I mean, that was the most exciting moment in the fight, right?

We will discuss what's next for Caitlin Vieira and what is next for Holly Holum tomorrow on onto the next one what we think will happen for both women. Co-mate of N.A.K., Michelle Paheda gets it done.

He beat Santiago Ponce deBio. I didn't think there was any robbery here at all. I know Santiago Ponce Bonsonibio was very upset about this. This is not a robbery. I've scored it from Michelle Pajeda. I thought he won rounds one and two. I thought the Ponsonibia was clearly taking the momentum over in that second round,

but I thought Paheda had done enough to win that round, and I thought Ponsonibio won the third. 29, 28, Pajada is how I scored it. There was a 30-27 Pajada, I believe, within that scoring. I don't have a huge problem with that either. If you scored it anywhere from, and I think Sean Sheehan, who's kind of the, the media, a mogul for how judging works. This guy knows the criteria better than most. He said anything from a 3027 peheda to a 29, 28, Ponziabio, all those things are acceptable

scorecard. So your thoughts on Pajara's performance? And did the judges get those one right in your opinion? Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with it. I mean, I was leaning towards Paheda, you know, well, no, I'm sorry, I said, I pick Ponziabio to win, probably because I'm such a Paheda fan and I'm like, and I'm just like, I don't know, I haven't been able to let myself believe that he's actually a contender at 170 pounds. But, I mean, certainly is out this night.

Again, beating a guy who's in the UFC rankings, not in our rankings, but is, you know, somewhere in the top 20 if we extended our rankings out that far. By far, his, you know, most veteran and revered UFC opponent yet, and he fought a great fight. Jed and I joke all the time. We hate to see them more technical. Well, I joke about it. Jed genuinely hates seeing the newer, more technical, successful Michelle Behead. He'd rather that he'd be like a 500 fighter who's still doing crazy ass flips and stuff, which I'm not against either.

But I like that he's winning fights. This is a five straight now. It would have been six if he hadn't gotten that DQ against Diego Sanchez because he was dominating that fight. Yeah, and he's legitimate. It was a great performance. You see how technical this guy is, how effective he can be when he mixes that one-of-a-kind movement. and that crazy size at 170 with technique, with patience, with, you know, picking a response, with toughness, resilience.

I mean, he's been tested twice. The Andre Fialio fight, he took some hits. He definitely took some hits in this fight. So he's shown resilience, too, for anyone who thinks he's all style and all flash. Like, no, he can get into these kind of back and forth wars and survive. Now, if this has been a five-rounder, but Panzinovio maybe have run away with it fourth and fifth, it's possible. It's possible.

But I also think Baheda would have fought the fight differently. So it's hard to kind of look at the fight that way. But yeah, very impressed. Definitely could have gone the other way. This is two straight splits against Ponsonabio now. That has to hurt. But neither man's reputation has hurt very much in my eyes. And I think they both have plenty of great fights ahead.

And for Bejara, maybe a big money fight. We'll talk about more on the show tomorrow, I guess. Yeah, very interesting post-fight comments. He's got an issue with Jorge Mazadol because Mazadol sent a prayer emotive. to his wife and to him. And he wants answers, but won't get them anywhere else, but in a fight with Jorge Mazadol. And he called on Nate Diaz.

Let's be clear, the Nate Diaz fight never going to happen. I'd be shocked if the Mazadol fight happens. There are some fun ones at 174, Pajara, which we will certainly talk about tomorrow. By the way, AK, since this has become once again a huge topic, and I want to shout up Mitchell Paheda for his discipline, because he's telling people he weighed 211 pounds at the start of his training camp. He looked like a freaking light heavyweight in there compared to Santiago Ponsadabio.

It's incredible that he gets to 170. But has the main event, the co-main event, and other fights we have seen over these last few weeks, including the Logan Storely MVP fight, has this changed your opinion at all on open scoring? Are you in favor of open scoring? No. Our good pal, the eminent era Hawani, tweeted something like, I see no argument against open. I can't see any argument against open scoring after the main event. And like tonight was like, I think the main event, again, was like one of the worst examples of a fight.

Like what would have changed tonight's main event with open scoring or the co-mate event? Like I don't understand what, like, I'm not, and people think to know, I'm not completely against open scoring. Like if it would happen, I'd be the last person that would like fight. I'd like, oh, okay, cool, let's try it. And, you know, just so people can see why it's not like this cure-all, what would have changed in the main event? Like, that's my, I don't understand. Would Holly Holm, if she knew she was down, because Pride era Vandrelea Silva and started going out and throwing bolo's, like Hollyholm fights how she fights. And she probably thought she won that last round anyway.

So it's not like she changed anything. Oh, I was sorry, she did win the last round and all two judges scorecards. So I just don't understand what is the, and I get it. She could have changed things in the fourth round, too, because I think the fourth round, she lost, right? It was, it was almost like the alternated round. Oh, sorry, first round to home, second round, Vieta. Third round was split. And then fourth round, Vieta, fifth round, home. Is that right?

I think the third round was the swing round. Yeah, yeah. Viata took it on two. There it is. Yeah. One and five for home were consistent. And then three, two and four were consistent. And then three was the swing round.

I don't, I don't understand. Like, that shows you how little, like, like distinction there was. It's like, what would have changed for Hollywood? She's not going to come out swinging and looking for a finish or doing anything crazy. That's just not how she fights. Some fighters may not do this. Like, that's the case for open scoring. Some fighters might.

A lot of fighters who, they're not going to change what they're doing the way they fight their fight. Especially if they thought that they won the other rounds. I mean, yes, it would be nice to know that they didn't. But again, I'm not, I don't know what it would have changed the Pajeda-Ponzanibio fight. Those guys were killing each other in the third round. So really, what difference would it make? So there's examples to be made for it. I just think tonight was like, nothing.

I didn't see anything tonight that made me go like, oh, yeah, open scoring is going to fix the, what, these results. Like, what? No, the people fought their fights. They didn't change anything. What's weird about the whole open scoring talk was like earlier on when it was first brought up and Victa started doing it. And I was like, all right, this is, this is interesting. Maybe we could try it. And now the more that it's, it's become a hill people have died, are dying on right now.

Like, this is it. Like, if there's one thing we could change, it's open. scoring. But judging is not going to change anything. Like, we're just going to know how bad the judging is after every five minutes. So instead of complaining at the end of the fight about judging, we're going to be complaining all fight long about judging. And I'm not ready to live in a world like that, okay? I'm just not. And then here's the thing. Here's the truth. Most fighters and fans don't know how the scoring works. This is a fact. So I see all these fans. I'm sorry. And I got to stop reading the YouTube comments. I see all these fans going like, oh, well, this is how it should go.

I guarantee you have no idea what the F you're talking about and you don't know what the criteria is. So, no, I'm serious. And people go like, oh, the judges don't know what they're doing. Like, yeah, look, listen, there's a lot. There's some bad judging that happens. But like, I guarantee these judges are most, like the vast majority of the judges are not all of them are way more qualified to score these fights than any of these fans are sitting at home. Or this was a robbery or this fight wasn't close. Oh, home won. It wasn't close. I'm like, if you think it wasn't close, you have no quality. You shouldn't be watching MMA, much less judging MMA fights. So I'm sorry, I got a little fired up there.

I just, I, I, no, I just wish people would be like, just be a little more critical. Like, just look at, like, please make sure you understand the scoring. Ponziabia was trying to steal rounds with takedowns. Did you see that at the end of every round? He's going for takedowns. Yep. That's not a thing. That's not a thing.

That's what's so infuriating to me is like, it's like, clearly someone like Ponziabia who has been fighting forever still lives under this myth that, oh, I could steal this round if I got a take down. That's not a thing. There's no stealing rounds with takedown. So I don't know. There needs any improvement across the board. I understand.

The judges need to improve for sure. But I think fan understanding, fighter understanding for sure, and the media in how we communicate this. Maybe we're not doing a good job of getting the message out there and getting it out there and how fights should be scored. And there's some disagreement on it too. Maybe that's a problem. We disagree on it. But I would just ask, well, just be a little more educated about it because so many fights that you think of robberies or aren't close or whatever, if you just look to criteria, you'd be like, oh, okay, I could see how why it was scored this way. And I don't need to be sending mean DMs to whatever judges make the mistake of being on social media.

You know how you steal rounds in 2022? You do what Euros Medici did in the first round of his fight today. Morales was cruising to a 10-9. And then you landed a round-shitting momentum-shifting shot with like five seconds left in the round that really had Morales on wobbly legs. And that's how you steal a round. because Morales is winning almost all of it. Medich land of that big shot,

stole the round in my eyes, and then went on, was probably losing a bit of the second, too, and then he just went out there and just threw absolute bombs at his opponent, at Omar Morales, put him away and gets a huge win. So momentum shifted then. Welcome aboard Air Canada.

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Air Canada. Nice travels. Wi-Fi available to Aero plan members on equip flights sponsored by Bell. Conditions apply. See Air Canada.com. Did you agree with the bonuses? I mean, Pahara's Ponzo de novo, no-brainer. That was the fight of the night.

But the performance bonuses went to Cheedy, which I don't think is too. surprising with that fricking elbow but young whippersnapper chase hooper got himself a bonus for a tkoh finish which not a lot of people had on their bingo card so did you agree i think we can agree with the fight of the night i think we we can agree with cheady did you agree with chase hooper getting a bonus tonight yeah actually did you know at first i was thinking oh well chase hooper is kind like a, you know, a beloved UFC company guy. He's like a fight pass. He, like, works for fight pass.

They love him. Oh, is this just them giving him the bonus because, you know, he is, he is sort of a UFC dude. But then I thought about it. He, he wasn't just being rewarded for the finish. Like, that was a really good performance through two rounds. And then he capped it off with like a TKOs. So, you know, like the, like the TKO is not as exciting as a Gigi and Gwani elbow.

But, you know, performance of the night bonus, I like that they changed it from, you know, from just knock out of the night or submission to night. Because then performance for me should encapsulate everything that happened in the fight. So, yes, you want to reward cool quick finishes, like when Enjikwani knocked out Power Bar last time in 16 seconds, that's great. But when someone puts together a strong, almost three-round performance plus a finish, that's worth 50 G's. The other way to go with it would have been Jelton Alameda. But I'll go with, and I think Casey would agree, Jelton was a pretty heavy favorite, despite certain members of the media, thinking that Parker Porter might be able to pull off the upset. this guy.

But Alameda was a big favorite. And it kind of went exactly as people expected. So I guess you don't necessarily give him the bonus for that. But I mean, I think his performance was more dominant than Chase Hooperers. And I think we are seeing a guy who is a legitimate contender. So if you factor that in, he could have earned it. No problem, though, with Chase Hooper winning it. I thought, again, taking out and count his whole performance, not just the finish, worth $50 grand.

I picked Parker Porter as well, 20,000. decision, but he needed to get out of the first round. I made that, I made that abundantly clear. So close, Mike. So close. You, Jed and I, we all said if we all said that's how it was going to go. We all said like, oh, we know he's going to get top. We knew he's going to get dominant the first round. We knew it. We knew it. But, but he could have that he had the gas tank, right? Like, we thought what was the time of the stoppage? It was, uh, 435. We had a long way to go. He had a long way to go. Yeah, 25 is like, yeah, he was in trouble. I was like, damn it. There are certain moments where I thought like he could get in the guard, maybe

gets back to his feet. There are certain moments where he kind of looked like he was going to put a submission on. And like he was just going to try to use it to get up and it just didn't work. Jelton's just nasty. Guy's so big, so strong, such an athlete. And yeah, he is about to fall into that rare category of where Marab is and where Shafkat Rachmanoff is and Armand Sarukyon. on guys like that where there aren't going to be a lot of 205ers who are going to be like, yes, let's fight that guy. I'm so excited. He's going to have a hard time moving up the ranks, I think, because he's going to have a

hard time getting people to say yes, which is a great win for him. You have to stay at heavyweight. Mike, we have to stay at heavyweight. I don't know if anyone at 205 wants to fight this guy. Hey, listen. He's scared. I think he would do pretty well at heavyweight, too. If he decided to hit the weights even more and bulk up to like 235, 240, he's going to be a

problem for a lot of those guys in heavyweight because he's such a freaking athlete uh john young park gets the split decision went over eric anders that was a fight a k as you like to say another that was a fight tabitha ritchie defeats polyana viana she gets the unanimous decision there that the judge just got that one correct

joseph holmes did what many expected him to do gets a submission win of alan amadowski have to say and you don't like to say these things We have to probably venture guess that the world, the UFC world, that is, is probably no longer open for Mr. now 0 and 3 in the UFC. We mentioned Johnson and Almeida, great finish. Amidowski, they gave him another chance.

He had a long layoff. I was surprised he actually wasn't released during, like, you know, this long layoff. So they gave him another chance and didn't work out. Yeah, I think you're right, though. Yep. We mentioned Euros Medich, great performance for him. He's back on track, Jonathan Martinez with a Jonathan Martinez-like performance against Vince Morales just beat up that leg.

Just didn't really understand Vince's game plan here. He just was not aggressive. He just kind of stayed at distance and just let Jonathan Martinez kick him the leg over and over again, which was kind of surprising to me. I thought Morales going to be much more competitive in this fight, but that was not the case. Great win for Chase Hooper. As we talked about, that fight was insane. And how about Sam Hughes, AK, gets on the board, gets a finish.

She's got two wins now. She's on a winning streak. She puts Elise Reid away. She wore her out real fast. And you could tell, like, early in that third round, Elise Reid was just like, I don't really want to do this anymore. She's trying to like, she's leaning up against the cage, throwing karate sidekicks, just being like,

all the energy I have left. And then Sam Hughes is like, well, I'm just going to go ahead and take you down and then finish you. So good win for her. Pretty fun card. I can win in 35 days. I know. Look at Sam Hughes coming around. Not April.

The move to 4 to 7 May paying off 2 and 0 since. joining forces with safe Sayyud. So there you go. That's the card. Those are the bonuses. Let's go to the peeps. Hey. Casey's here.

Hey, Casey. Hello, Casey. Oh, I about muted your mic when you had your open scoring rant because I'm on team Hilwani 100% on open scoring. I just don't care anymore. But tonight, but tonight, what difference would have made? The fighters deserves no the score. I know, but just tonight.

But tonight, why? Actually, I think it's really interesting because Ketland, Ketland came into that fifth round thinking she had to get a knockout. And because she thought she had to get a knockout, to me she actually lost, and she lost that round easily, I thought the fifth round, because she was going for that knockout.

But she already had the fight won. I just think it's really interesting. That Ketland kind of felt, I think, fought differently. I don't know if you should admit it, because she, I don't know,

she said some, she kind of said some weird stuff in the post-fight presser. I think she said, God wanted her to win or something. something like that. I don't know. Sure. But, but, but for Holly, I think it's unfair for, for, because Holly's a very strategic fighter and you fight differently when you're trying to win rounds versus knowing that you have to get the knockout. And I think it's unfair to say Holly. Well, only, well, if Holly did that in round two, she'll, she'll do that in round five.

Holly's a much better fighter than that. If she knows she has to get a finish in round five to win, because by going around five, she was already down three, uh, two cards, she was down three one. And so if Winko John and her coach's go to her, goes, you have to get a knockout. We're not doing any clenching. We're not doing any of this. No takedowns. You're just throwing bombs and headkicks. Hollyholm can do that.

She just doesn't need to because they don't know the score. You know, so it's dumb. I guess. It's dumb for her to fight that way unless she has to fight that way. But she hasn't finished anyone in five years. She has two finishes in the UFC. I don't think she could just turn it on and knock like, Yes, you absolutely can.

Yes, you absolutely can. Holly Holmes, I've trained with Holly Home. She's mean. I know, but in an actual fight? Like, I don't know. Like, she hasn't knocked on anyone in five years. You don't think she can knock people out if she wants? I mean, that's, you fight, you fight.

She's win. Then she should. You fight to win. You fight to win. You don't fight to the knockout. You fight to win. Okay. And that's the thing.

That's the thing. You fight to win. You don't fight for the knockout. And that's, and that's, and, and, and, and, I, and, and, and, I, But even regardless of that, before we go to the questions, open scoring is not about entertainment. It's not about the fixed judging. Actually, open scoring does nothing for judging. It's all it is is so you know the freaking score.

That's all it is. Just like if you're playing baseball, if it's a close, you're like, oh, I need to know if that was a ball or strike. Because that determines how I was swinging on my next pitch. I don't think that's going to, that's not how baseball works. MMA cannot be compared to any other sports I never want to hear the only batting I'm not talking like the scoreboard I'm talking about batting

Oh oh oh oh You need to know if you need to know Is it a 3 O count? Is it a 3-0 count? Is it a 3-1 count? Is it a 0-2 count? You need to know it because that changes how you swing That changes everything And that's the same thing for fighters They need to know and they deserve to know that And I understand it would never happen because it totally

screws up gambling and that's why it won't happen well i mean you the live odds i guess there'd be some things to that but but the one concern i have and if here's the only way i will be like okay cool let's do it this way is if everybody can know the score except the three judges you have to work it out that way you have to work it out that way none of the judges can know okay none of the judges can know how they how the other one scored. Right, right. Because that's going to mess of the judge's mind. Because if they know, if there's one judge who scored it for the other fighter and two of them scored it for the other one,

they're not even paying attention to the fight. They're in their mind, they're going to be half paying attention to the fight and they're going to be half thinking about what did I get wrong. How did I screw that? Do I need to make it, do I need to get a baseball terminology? Do I need to do a makeup call here to even things out? So as long as the judges have no clue how the other two judges scored, the fighters can know if they want to put it on the broadcast that's cool but then you kind of take the fans out of it without knowing that are in the building yeah but i just don't want any of the judges to know how the other judges scored it and i think we're okay i think we might be able to make it work i like that i like that that's definitely a caveat i'd want to see yeah but that's a whole other show yeah it is that's a whole other show um all right then we can do a poll about it okay the poll that I have there will stand

I want everyone to feel feel my pain oh yeah before you know the piece yeah let's go talk about outside of the the Abu Dhabi commercials yes how was the Mayweather fight how was the Anderson Silva fight

by all counts I didn't watch either of them but by all accounts it seemed like Anderson so if these weren't exhibitions it seemed like Anderson Silva easily won his fight and Floyd Mayweather easily won his fight. Apparently, Floyd Bayweather was having more fun than he's ever had in his life in there. I think I spent more time watching Abu Dhabi commercials than actual in-ring time.

I think if you add up the amount of in-ring time there was, compared to my first. I had to watch. It was like clear, clear win, a 10-8 win for the commercials. Yeah, no, like Anderson, look, Anderson, look, Andrew McChato. It actually pretty decent M. M.A. fighter. He's actually doing good stuff in the UAE Warriors promotion. And he looked a little bit happy to be there, his opponent, Machado, a little bit like,

oh my gosh, I'm getting to fight epic Anderson Silva. Like, he certainly never thought that that was ever going to be in the cars for him in any context. So he looked a little bit happy to be there. And so, you know, it took Anderson maybe round, round and a half to kind of find his rhythm. That's that he was just picking them apart. It was not the most exciting fight. It certainly wasn't as fun as the Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. fight and not as grim as the Tito Ortiz bludgeoning.

But you did get to see, again, as you said, more of Anderson, just kind of enjoying himself, living his best life. And afterwards, he was like, he's like, you know what? He's like, you know, what's next for me? He's like, I'm going to hang around, you know, UAE and do a jujitsu tournament now. Because that's, you know, he's essentially, he's retired from M.MA, right? So it's like, I've always wanted to do this. I want to go back to Jiu-Jitsu and do Jiu-Jitsu.

And then he can do boxing again. So, you know, everyone's calling for the Jake Paul fight. Maybe that sometimes gets, you know, in the cards somewhere between the end of the year or next year. Jake Paul acknowledged both of them, Mayweather and Anderson-Silvin at tweet saying, I could beat both them in one night, very kind of. Oh, for God. Not sake. Not the most original call-out, but at least whatever it's out there.

And Mayweather, also, by the way, it was clearly having a lot of fun. Mayweather, not a person I like, I will say, I think a trash human being. But if you enjoy watching him fight, this was a very enjoyable exhibition against the former training partner in Don Moore, who was game enough to hang in there with Floyd and pretty much let Floyd do what he wanted to do because Floyd was dancing, literally dancing, dancing with the ring card girl, dancing front of the cameras. He grabbed the ring card in round seven and walked around the ring. he could hear the announcers talking so the announcers would be saying things about it and he'd be responding he'd be like yeah yeah yeah oh yeah I do that good like good point good point you made about me so

it was it wasn't entertaining the exhibition main event considering this thing was thrown together in a weird way after it was supposed to happen on a helipad in Dubai last week big missed opportunity it actually kind of went off okay even one of the undercard fights with Pursune Pursu and her fight was really really fun to watch and Badu Jack smokes some guy

in 46 seconds. So not like a terrible, if it wasn't for all the commercial, it was like not a terrible card to watch. It was only $20 USD, which is like $400 Canadian, but you know, whatever, it's fine.

I'll live. Who needs to eat? Who needs to eat, right? Expense accounts, baby. Oh, yeah. Fingers crossed, hopefully. So, yeah, it was okay. It was fun to watch.

And yeah, if you guys want to see Andrew Silver Box, yeah, that's, it's going well. His box appears are going just fine. Hashtag visit Abu Dhabi. Please don't. That's right. Hashtag summer in Abu Dhabi.

So is that what summer and Abu Dhabi? I will never spend summer in Abu Dhabi at now. Oh my God. It is so. Oh, okay. Let me talk about how the way. It is next level. It's like 5,000 degrees there.

It's like, imagine like Death Valley temperature with like Florida swamp humidity. It is unreal. And this is, this is in the night when it's like no sun. It was, but man, the water park there is awesome, by the way. So go to the water park if you go. Hashtags, Cameron, Abu Dhabi. All right. Send me that check.

Prince's sheikh saw them. Yeah, the biggest winner was the Abu Dhabi tourism. Do we do Vier, I'll ask you, Casey, Viera versus Aldana 2, number one contender fight. Your thoughts on that? That sounds like the fight to make. This is prize fighting. UFC's a business. Vieira is she's just not that needle mover.

She just doesn't. It's just a fact. She's a very good fighter. I thought Holly won tonight, but it was a super close fight. I still think Holly won. But I would love to see her Vera and Aldana. Because, I mean, that's how much.

That's MMA math. You know, Holly defeats Audana easily. Adana knocks out Vieira, one of the best lady knockouts we've seen the UFC in years. 100%. 100%. Yeah, rematch that fight. It's definitely a competitive fight.

How Donna can win, Vieira can win that rematch. And then that gives time for the potential Nunes wins and Nunez Pena Trilogy. And obviously, you have Chichenko. You know, you want to throw Chifchenko in there, too. So, yeah, Vieira is just not the name yet to get a title shot. But you know what? Tadas, Tadus, I'm telling you, I don't even know. Santos, what's her name?

Tadis Santos. Tyler Santos. Tyler Santos. Tyler. She's not a name either, but she got a title shot. So it could be all wrong. Yeah. I mean, that's probably the only fight you could make right now.

Yeah. Unless, like, there's just no. Yeah. She's just one of those, not long injury. She's just. Yeah, I'm not sure. What did she fight? When was her last fight?

I know she won. Oh, it was that Jojo Calderwood, right? Was it Calderwood? No. No, who did she meet? Who were we talking about? Irene Nieldana. Kunitskaya.

Kunitskaya, that's what it was. Oh, yeah. Oh, she missed guy good, yeah. She missed weight. She also missed weight by quite a bit. Oh, I don't miss weight. But, yeah, okay. So she hasn't fought since.

Oh, it's been in, okay, it was in June, no, July of last year. So it's coming up in a year soon. So, yeah, it's, it was going on of her. Her fight with GDR. Yeah. The fight she was supposed to have a 268 with G. would have like been such a logical number one contenders about it's a shame that one fell through and and sent the sent the band to way divisions back spiraling into just like uncertainty because i hear

messed up both divisions just like her kind of yeah it's just yeah just it's weird for sure um yeah i like the fight though yeah i love this fight i love this fight i think i think it's it's i think this fight needs to be on a pay-per-view main card not don't don't or maybe a main event or maybe a main event a fight night, but it needs to be some sort of featured fight that a lot of people are going to see that people know has lots of value to it. Don't just throw it on a random card. I thought you were going to say it has to be on a helipad in Dubai. I'm like, that's every fight.

That's every fight. Let's do it. Maybe we could do the hockey wars fight. Have you seen the clips of that site? That's amazing. Michelle Padez, 39 pro fights only 28. Guys is a machine. Guy fights.

Yeah, I don't. That sounds crazy. Like I just like yeah a lot of people like he's not 28 or like I don't know Um what else we got here? He's got like he's got like Carlos Condit pacing right now. Yeah. With this career. Oh here's a good question from Mr. Boza.

Josephosa. Should we take Mitchell up ahead us seriously at Walterweight? Now it's won five in a row plus he fits at Walterweight more than he did at lightweight. I'm not sure what that means. He fought a white one did he find a lightweight? No, no, no. I think he means metal of weight. Yeah

I think I'll say he definitely is not not a lightweight We can just ignore that last part It's Yeah let's let's end it at five in a row

Should we take him seriously Should we take him seriously A.K.? Yeah no you have to You have to The matchmaking with him has been really good They've given him Once I think they figured out

That he's not like you know Look they tried to What was it? The Nico Price fight And chaos once Back to back I think they were kind of hoping They're like oh man

Like they're still that crazy Michelle Paheda in there. We're going to get these such wild. I mean, you throw him in there with Nico Pryds, it's me insane. And again, these fights were okay. But you did get sort of the more kinder, gentle, more mature Michelle Paheda that we've seen, the one who's focusing on winning fights, you know, not taking crazy risks and not completely blowing his gas tank doing flips and jumping off the cage and things like that. And I think now that they've realized that, they said, oh, he's like a serious. Who is he supposed to fight instead of Fialio? He was, was that always the original matchup? Oh, Muslim Salikov. And then he, and then he

And then, that's right. Which also would have won, both a fun fight and a guy who I think was higher than him in the ranking. So I think that was a logical matchup. Then he ended up fighting Fialio instead, just fine, great fight. And then now they said, okay, let's really see if we have a contender here. There you go. Santiago and Ponsignibio, long time veteran, a guy who's been in the top 10 before. So, yeah, he should be taken very, very seriously.

I think he has a style that's really competitive. I think even with some of the best guys in the division, I'm not saying he's going to, you know, beat Kamar Uzman tomorrow or anything. But you give him, you give him two, you know, a couple more. top 15, top 10 guys. And let's really see what we have here. Because we talked about, he's got that mixture. Yes, he's got the great style.

He's got athleticism. He's got size. He's got speed. He's so fast for a guy. For a guy who's bigger than most of the welterweight, this guy is super fast. He's got experience. We said for a guy who is allegedly only 28 years old, has almost 40 pro bouts. Like that's what you want.

I wish the OSC signed more of these guys who were like, you know, so, so experienced. And whatever. Maybe they don't have crazy like, you know, 20, one records but have like 22 and 7 22 because these are experienced guys who when you put them on the big stage you never know they're going to put it all together and you get you actually find yourself all the contenders so i think that's where demolador is right now and uh i hope the matchmakers again don't push him up too fast i know i think the mazvadaal match it would be perfect mike we've called for that before i think he's called for it before and we've been like

yeah he should fight he should fight mazvadole so i'd love to see that fight i don't know if it happens wonder boy another option i think either of those logical next steps for him yeah that's the answer The Wonder Boy one makes total sense. That's the fight. Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's the fight. Me and Michael, yeah. We're like, no. Wonder Boy, maybe.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I don't, I don't see Wonderboy really having any issue of that fight either. It seems to fight that wouldn't make sense. Yeah. Yeah, he wants to fight July 30th, it looks like.

He wanted the Dustin Porre fight, which would have been just fun for fun to say. but no real stakes there. But yeah, I mean, it's kind of where Wonder Boy is right now. He's last two in a row and got kind of dominated both of those fights with Grapplers. This one. Yeah, this one he's going to stand and just fight a guy. He's going to, and Wonderboy is a pretty decent size welterweight as well. He usually walks around right around 200 pounds.

So yeah, I think it's a good fight. I know the UFC won't allow it, but this is one of those fights that both fighters should agree. to let's just fight this at middleweight. You know, like, just train hard, get lots of fluid in our brain so we can just punch each other as much as we can.

There's no reason, I don't know, I don't think Michelle Pereer is ever going to fight for a title, but I think he is a legitimate top 15 guy now, according to UFC's rankings, not the real rankings that matter.

I don't know if he breaks into the real rankings yet, but for the UFC rankings-wise, yeah, it's a perfect fight, and yeah, I hope it happens. And yeah, And there's no reason for those guys cut all that way. Just fight a 185. Let's give this guy a chance to make a run.

You know, let's give him a chance to make a run. Worst thing that you can happen is that Michelle Pereira deserves the opportunity. Yeah, he deserves the opportunity for sure. Worst case scenario, he loses a fight, and then he goes back to just like fun crazy fights. So it's doesn't hurt either way. Let's see what he's got, let him go and see how far you can take this thing. And Pereira versus Wonderboy is a fun crazy fight that actually has relevance to the division. too. So, for win, win.

Oh, yeah, here we go. Got, thoughts on Chidi and Jokwani after his win against Adorovich looks to be a problem in this middle-white division. Cheedy's the real deal, Casey, is he not? This guy is just super fun. This is a guy who, when I found out

he was fighting on the contender series, I was like, what? Why is this guy fighting on the contender series? This makes no sense at all. He should just be in the UFC. He should have been the UFC like three years ago. It was just, I mean, a cool, like, cool moment. Like, we put him on the Contender Series. Like, he's like, if he, the fact that he's on the, if you don't know, now you knows what Dana White is just blasphemous to me. Everybody knows who this guy is. Everybody knows. Everybody who's a fan of the sport who's, like, on the fence, like in the middle between casual and hardcore, knows who Cheney was before the Contender Series before all this.

Now look at him. He's got two big wins, two big knockouts. He's cash and checks like crazy. crazy. What do you think? Real deal? Problem in this middleweight division. This is a guy who can actually make a title, like a title run at 185, Casey? I'm not going to go title run. But I will say he is the real deal, though.

He is a very exciting fighter. He's a fighter that UFC wants. He's a fighter that I do not understand why Bellator got rid of him. I understand Cheaty. I was joking online. Like, oh, look at this Bellator washout. he lost to the top guys in Bellator but he's not a watchout

he's clearly a quality professional fighter and yeah as long as he stays healthy he should hope to see him four times a year on UFC cards he's an exciting fighter and win or lose you're gonna see an exciting fight

and I think that's what the UFC wants that's what the fans want and he has that it factor and when he wins I get to hear his smooth voice and that's awesome I want. Yeah. A.K. Your thoughts on Chee.

Yeah. Oh, real quick. That freaking elbow, oh, my God. Just beautiful. Just beautiful. And so, you know, I don't want to,

you don't think you need to train MMA to understand how much that must have hurt. You know, like, just to get that force on the, right here on the temple, it was just, and the way Cheedy grabbed Dusco's head

and just like, Chef's kiss. Sorry, it was just, great. Enjoy the 50K, sir. AK, do you approve of the way Cheedy mixes the martial arts? I don't know if I go that far, as we all know, mixing. You know, this is why I enjoyed watching the boxing earlier today.

I tweeted earlier. I was like, man, if only Andrew Silva had stopped mixing the martial arts earlier in his career, you know, where would he really be? How much greater? How much greater would he be, you know? No, but Cheety, yeah, look, to look at the question, he is the real deal. I mean, he's so, same thing I said with Michelle Beheada. When I was talking about Michelle Perreira, the thing about signing veterans, signing people with experience. Like this, I was also thinking about Chita and Jokwani.

Like, I know you'll look at like, oh, a guy who used to fight for Bellator and like, and he's 33 years old. Like, what does he bring to the O.C? Like, the U.S.C. needs to sign more just good fighters. You know what I mean? Like, there's a reason we in the media sometimes complain about too much like contender series signings and now whoever, God help us, who are going to bring out this 30th season of the old-ed fighter. Look, it's great. I love people getting the opportunity.

That's fine. But Mike, like you said, guys like Cheetah, Ingen Kwanis should not even force to go through the Contender Series. If he's on a Contender Series contract, that is absurd. I mean, this guy, again, is he's experienced. He's well-rounded. These are guys you should be promoting more. I'm glad they put on the main card. I think they do kind of know what they have with him.

I'm glad he's got a couple of performance bonuses. So at least we know he's got an extra 100 G's in the pocket. That's great. These all make for a good story. But I want to see UFC sign more of these guys. I know they love to push. And this guy was great tonight, like the Chase Hoopers, guys that are like, oh, we discovered. You know, we discovered someone.

We discovered someone. We discovered someone in their 20s, 21, 22. We're going to make them into a star. And that's cool. And that works out like one out of 20 times. Other times, there's a lot of good fighters out there. And I wish they would bring them in and give older guys more chances. Because 33, I get it.

I know we're saying, oh, well, how much it fights does cheating? And you're going to have left. Can you really be contenders? Like, who cares? You know you're going to get quality fights out of them. As like Casey said, if he gives you three or four fights a year, you're giving your fans a quality product. And shouldn't that matter too? So, yeah.

Hey, he strings against against and wins, gets a, you know, top number one contenders bet. I wouldn't be surprised. But that's secondary to just having a nice quality guy in the roster. You can throw in there with top 10 guys, you can throw them in there with up-and-comers, and you're going to get a good fight. Yes. Three-nine. Yeah, after tonight, yeah.

Yeah. That's an excellent comment right. You got to worry about the safety of the fire safety first. Those things are three to nine. No, no, no, that's too dangerous. Yeah, if you want to do like, you know, you want to do four to ten or something like that. It's okay, but three to nine. That's where we draw the line.

We'll take like one or two more. What we got here? What we got? Just a comment we kind of mentioned earlier real quick. I'm made of the new Homsat-like fighter. Dude's real good Dude's real good Yeah we have

What was the last time We had a light heavyweight Kind of harms that Has there been one in four while Outside of John Jones Grappling Larry? Yeah I don't know Yeah

I didn't grappling like grappling Yeah well No way not grappling wise It's just You know just A new boogeyman Kind of coming out of nowhere You know kind of

Oh Johnny Walker through his first two fights Oh yeah Yeah This guy could fight John This guy might be able to beat John Jones Yeah, it was Yeri And then Yeri came in And like immediately set the world on fire

And I think you probably put Volkan Ozedimir in there too Before he fought for the title Against DC People forget he was knocked He was knocking guys in seconds He's putting guys away in seconds Oh yeah

Oh yeah Volcon yeah, you're right Volcon yeah Volkan was a good one You're right But yeah he's all made his real good All made I think Almeida's ceiling is higher Than a lot of those guys

Yeah I'm very I'm I'm very curious. I'm very curious about him. Where does he train? He trains in Brazil, right? He lives and trains in Brazil. Yeah. Okay.

I got to talk to Jeremy. I got to get more information about this young man. He looks scary. He beat up my favorite fighter, Parker Porter. What a jerk. Packer Porter. Faka could have kept going, too. He just needed 25 seconds.

Just needed 25 more seconds. I got was ready to gas. Almeida was the one who was really in trouble. Thank God. He got that. choke and got out of that. But then, like, Almada got up and celebrated and he wasn't even, like, breathing heavy. I'm like, oh, maybe I was, maybe I read this totally wrong.

He looked pretty good at heavyweight. I'm not going to lie. What was the original fight? Was that, that wasn't originally a heavyweight, right? It was him versus Max McSign. Light heavyweight. At 205. Heavy weight, yeah, okay.

But, like, who wants to fight that frigging guy on short notice? Of course, Pacoorta steps up. He wants to go. Yeah, he rules. He saw it. saw him like i'm telling you he saw what we saw he's like man if i can i know it's going to be a tough first round if i can get out of it yep good for you that's right for you park reporter good for you for taking that funny yep no stock this he still gets the arlovsky fight in my

eyes and that's it he deserves kudos and a new in a new contract for taking this fight more money i mean come on paca really won tonight this is a good comparison when um when circle circunoff came on the scene yeah he looks scary has a broken job by what he broke Alex Nicholson's jaw with a freaking neck crank. That was insane, dude. Dude, that was nuts. That was nuts. Yeah.

Yeah. I think we're good, gentlemen. Sounds good to me. A.K., we're great. Get some rest, my best friend. See you tomorrow morning. Oh, well, we can. It's everything you want on the poll, by the way.

Summer and Abu Dhabi. It's everything you want, and so much more than you'd expect. Yeah. So listen, everybody. join us for on to the next one. Join us for a regular programming next week. It was a good card. Solid B-minus, I would say.

I think that's a pretty fair grade. And no UFC event next weekend. It's Memorial Day weekend. It's also next, on Friday's 10th wedding anniversary for this guy and the lovely wife. So how about that? Yeah. Very happy. Very excited.

On my birthday? The same? No, it's not. Wow. It's never my birthday. It's never my birthday. You call him Nagassi a liar? Yeah. I don't think so. Yeah. Apologies to Nagasi. Jeez. All caps, three exclamation points, bro. All right, we're out here. We'll see you tomorrow if we're on to the next one. Thank you for joining us. Have a wonderful rest of the night, everybody. And hashtag summer in Abu Dhabi. Helipad fights. Yes. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.