MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 57 Post-Fight Show | Shavkat Rakhmonov Has Arrived, Gamrot vs. Tsarukyan Delivers

Episode Date: June 26, 2022

The UFC Vegas 57 main event between Mateusz Gamrot and Arman Tsarukyan will go down as one of the most high-level UFC Fight Night main event's in quite some time, but as great as that fight was, the s...tory of the night came from the co-main event winner, Shavkat Rakhmonov. MMA Fighting's Mike Heck, José Youngs, and Jed Meshew react to Gamrot's unanimous decision win over Tsarukyan and discuss the extremely high ceilings for both lightweight contenders. In addition, they talk Rakhmonov's destruction of Neil Magny in the co-main event and what could be next for the undefeated welterweight prospect, and other storylines coming out of Saturday's event at the APEX.  Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Jose Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:09 25 minutes of absolute chaos, high-level stuff. And in the end, all three judges saw it exactly the same. 4847 for Matush Gamrod, who gets the biggest win of his career. And he is on to bigger and better. But what a fight it was, one of the best fight night made events you will ever see. And I am excited to talk about it. Thank you for joining us for the UFC Vegas 57 post-fight show. I am Mike Heck.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Got a whole crew here. We got Jose Youngs joining us from Phoenix, Arizona. and we have the man with the fiery hot takes, Mr. No Gray area himself, Jed Bishu, the new president of the PFL, as you can see. From head to toe. He's got PFL sweatpants on, PFL sneaks, BFL socks. He's just rolling with the PFL.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I know that we just watched probably the second best fight of the year, but I'm just here so we can talk more about Bruno Capulosa, getting upset last night. Maybe we'll save that for BT. because I know that's why everybody will tune in during international fight week. But Jose, I mean, I'm not going to ask you about the scoring. You didn't want to give a prediction on the fight because you think so highly of these two guys. We all had very high expectations for this fight.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Did it deliver? Did it exceed your expectations? Your thoughts on those 25 minutes? It didn't exceed my expectations because my gymnastics score was a 10 and I'm not Dave Meltzer and I don't break my scoring system. So it was a 10 out of 10 main event. I gave it a 10 out of 10 potential. So it lived up to everything that it was built on. It's rare we get these main events.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Like the last one I can really remember was like when T.J. Dillishaw fought Corey Sanhagan, where you just knew that no matter. Like it was just impossible for those two gentlemen to have a bad fight. And the same thing with Mattowish Gameron, Armin Sruki. And this fight was a bonnano. It was absolutely spectacular. I'm not really going to get into the argument of is it the second best fight. Is it the first best fight? is it the best non-title fight because that's silly because this fight just happened.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And we should be talking about how great this was. And I'm comparing it to anything else. This fight had everything. I had high-action grappling. It had fantastic counter-striking. At high-level submission defense, submission offense, wrestling, everything. Stakes were there. Mattouch Gamrod won.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I don't even know what I scored it. I just enjoyed the fight. I wasn't scoring it as I went, as Jed said. Kind of scoring while watching is very difficult when you're just enjoying the fight that much, but based on the new scoring system, I would just, I assumed Armin was going to win, just based on, like, I think Alan, I did Twitter reacts first side, Alan Jovan, kind of put it out there where he's like, he was very confused by the decision based solely on the new criteria, where if it was the old criteria, Mattowish Gamron would win, but it was the new criteria that
Starting point is 00:04:57 Armin Serucyan would win. So I just assumed Armin was going to win, but they announced Mattowish Gamera. I wasn't happy or sad. I was just like, oh, I guess Gamera won, cool. Now he can fight someone even higher than. him and Armand can fight another high level lightweight because as we all know at mhmatfighting.com the lightweight division is the best division mixed martial arts regardless of the campfire stores the rest of the rest of this staff
Starting point is 00:05:20 tells you about bannam weights and welterweights and what have you so 10 out 10 main event and that's all i have to say this fight lived ever lived up to everything it was just high level martial arts and i don't care that it was in the apex because again that argument is also very played out on this website this fight ruled and i don't care where it happened it was just fantastic. It was an amazing fight. Jed, I mean, again, everything Jose said is true. This was the true test of, hold on, hold on. This is the true test of the new scoring criteria, right? This is the perfect example. Like, this is the fight when all the analysts and everybody goes
Starting point is 00:05:56 back and they're like, all right, this is, we're going to watch this fight and we're going to compare the two criterias. To me, I thought Armand won four rounds just based on the criteria. Damage outweighs control, it outweighs takedowns with nothing really behind it. I thought Arbon won four rounds. I don't think he won five. I think he won four. I scored it 49, 46. It's not egregious, though, that Gamrot wins 4847.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Like, I'm not, like, enthralled by this decision. I was actually a little more upset with the catered decision, not because of, not because M. It won because of the scorecard from Chris Lee, but we don't have that argument. here because all three judges scored this fight exactly the same. But you scored it for Gamrod, right? Including Chris Lee. I did.
Starting point is 00:06:42 MMA fighting's official score for this fight is 4847. And I'll be honest, I am not married to that score. I was live blogging. So it is really hard to live blog and feel like I'm getting like a, unless it's like a dominant, like I could a live blog shop got Neil Magny and had a pretty good score, like a pretty accurate score for that fight. That would have been pretty simple, but like this is right had so much going on too. Like, it's, I do all, I do most of our live blogs.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Like, heavy weights are way, way easier because they throw like three strikes a minute and they're big times. Like, it was really easy to live blog and score as far as the Nama Unis because nothing happened. So I'm just sitting there being like, well, nothing's happening. But this one was like, okay, so they scrambled. And there was a Grammy roll and the position changed and there's back and Sauru Kins back up to the cage now. But the body lock, there's just so much. stuff going on that I have no idea if the score I put forth is like is correct or not. My reasoning for it is in what I saw while I was watching, I felt like the damage was equal
Starting point is 00:07:49 for the most part. Certainly not in the first two rounds. I thought if you scored that like 49, 46 game route, which I haven't seen, but you know, people are crazy, that would be like very, very wrong. And I think the same way that scoring at 5 O Sarukian, which somebody on MMA decisions did is very, very wrong. But for me, I thought the first two rounds were very clearly Sarukin. And then I thought in the last three, the damage in each of those rounds felt very equal. But obviously the grappling, like that's how the scoring goes.
Starting point is 00:08:19 If the damage is equal, then you go down to the next criteria. And kind of the control and the grappling certainly favored Gamrod. Again, I'm not married to that score. I'm excited to rewatch that when I can fully focus on it because it was a friggin' banger. And it's just nice because like Jose said, when he erroneously said the rest of this website will tell you can't fire tails, I have not ever in my entire time, for the six years I've worked for MAAfighting.com, I have told you all, but lightweight is the best division because it is and always will be. And this, like he said, this is it. This is exactly why. This fight ruled and I'm really excited to watch it back tomorrow. Yes, I'll be watching this one back as well. Just, yep, there's the score.
Starting point is 00:09:10 So most people scored it for Surukion. One to the five, six for Gamrod, six, nine, 12, 13, 14. So 15 to six, it looks like for for Surukian. 48, 47, 49, 46. I even said, like, in our private page, I was like, I got a 401 for Surrogion. 5O wouldn't shock me from a judge. 48, 47, either way, wouldn't shock me.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It was just one of those fights that it was just so close. It was so high level that, like, I don't know. I just, I'm not bummed out about the score at all. I'm just like, wow, I can't believe I watched that fight. That was tremendous. The truth of the matter is, like, I don't, I can't speak for y'all. I don't feel like either man's better than the other. I feel like, and they said it kind of a lot on the thing, I just feel like they are even.
Starting point is 00:10:00 They are exactly even fighters. and they should fight five more rounds, and they'll still be even, but I'll watch them fight three hours, because that was awesome. So, like, I don't, if you gave it to either man, I'm fine with it, but I feel like at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:10:16 they are identically, like at an identical skill and talent levels, and that's why it created such an awesome fight. Yes. I hope we get to see it again. I hope there's a day where I know Islam, Makachev, If Jedd in your eyes is going to have the title until the day he decides, I don't want to have the title anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:38 But I hope one day these two guys fight for the title. We get five more rounds of this with the stakes just incredibly high. And I mean, if these guys would run it back or do four or five fights, I mean, I'm down. It was just such a good fight. But Jose, I know sometimes you present these matchmaking questions before the card and you're like, well, we get to see how the fight plays out. we know that Shafcott's going to take a big step forward. No doubt about it. 100%.
Starting point is 00:11:05 But where's Gamrock going to go with this win? Like how high do you shoot him up? Like, Saruki, I was talking about the Michael Chandler's of the world. Are we looking at that for Gamrod? Like, what do we do with him from there from this victory? Because it was impressive. It was unbelievable. I think you're going to have to give him a guy that's highly ranked,
Starting point is 00:11:25 but is probably not going to fight for the title anytime soon. So like when he called out, Justin Gachi, I'm like, I'm not, I would be shocked if they made that fight only because I think what Justin Gage is what, two or three ranked in that division. I don't think they're going to give him a Towers Gamrodot the number of two or three ranked lightweight in the world, but I think he's going to have to fight someone either like that if he wants a top five guy, a guy that, you know, can't really say no to fights because Justin Gage is fought pretty much everyone else in that top five outside of like Islam and B'Neil Daryush, but I don't think Gachie's going to fight B'Neal
Starting point is 00:11:56 because they both have the same manager. So maybe the winner. Fazeve versus RDA. I think that fight, again, is anyone going to complain if Mattaj Gamrodt fights RDA or Hafeo Fiziv? Because, as we all know at MMAFiting.com, the lightweight division is the best division
Starting point is 00:12:12 in mixed martial arts. And all fight. See anyone in the top 25 fights, anyone inside the top 25, and it will be a high-level action pack martial arts competition. Now, I wouldn't even hate if Armand Sarukin fought the loser
Starting point is 00:12:23 of Hafeel Fiziv as RDA because all of those fights are fantastic. But if they make, again, If they make Mataj Gamron versus Justin Gaci, which I doubt they will, but I think it honestly actually does make sense considering Justin Gaiti's, like I said, fought everyone else kind of in that group. Sign me up for another five-round scrap. I don't care again. Don't care where it is if they want to bring it to Arizona, if they want to go to Europe, whatever. Don't care.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Just want to see Matagirahat fights someone in the top 10 for 25 minutes because, you know, you beat Arm and Siru Kian. You're a bad dude. Yeah, a lot of people that I've seen who scored it for Surroghan talking about the knockdown and I think it's either the third or the fourth round and I was curious Was that a knockdown? Because like I couldn't tell and they talked like it wasn't. It was scored officially a knockdown for Surukia. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:15 According to UFC stats. I mean, just such a close, close fight. It was unbelievable. Surukian significant strikes 95 to 81 doesn't tell them. the tale of the fight. It was just so good. And I love people on Twitter. Just because I've sung praises of a fighter and I was very high on a fighter,
Starting point is 00:13:34 people are adding me on Twitter saying, oh, sad night for Mike, I don't give a shit that he lost. Like, it doesn't affect my life. It doesn't affect my life. He'll be back. He'll be back. I thought he won. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:13:47 He'll be back. You're not doing fandom right, Mike. Come on. Like, you get mad when the Celtics lose to the Warriors. Be mad. your boy. That's the reason to pick fighters to stand is so you can treat them like sports teams
Starting point is 00:14:01 and be mad when they lose and be excited when they win. When Hamza takes the belt off Usman, I'm going to be right there and a lot of people are going to be with me. And then when you fight Shavka, it's going to be awesome. You should be sad right now
Starting point is 00:14:17 because your man got robbed, Mike. That's what you need to be doing in these moments. He won 60 to 35 tonight and he got screwed. It's funny. My little brother who is a very casual MMA fan and only watches it for as you would love Jed.
Starting point is 00:14:34 He does it so he could bet on it and find things. And even he scored the fight who doesn't even watch him all that often. Even he scored the fight 4-1 for Surukian. So there you go. But again, tremendous fight. We all win. Anybody who watched it were the
Starting point is 00:14:50 real winners tonight. And Matush Gamrock goes on to bigger and better things. can't wait to see where both of these guys go get we to see how Syruki-on Botsam. By the way, let's all remember. Let's not be taking the shovels out for Suryukian yet and start digging his grave. He's 20 friggin five years old.
Starting point is 00:15:05 The guy's coming back. He'll be in these spots again and again and again climbing that ladder. And he's going to have to chase Batush Gameron now who gets the biggest win of his career. But what? You have something to say? Honestly, this is actually the best outcome
Starting point is 00:15:21 because Syrucans only 20% He loses almost no value and like his stock takes zero hits. I'm going to move both Gamrot and and Srucun up in my rankings this month. And he still gets to come back. Whereas if Gamrod takes this L, maybe isn't the end of his title aspirations, but at 31 having just lost to like the new hot shit, like that's,
Starting point is 00:15:46 it's really tough for him to put together like a title run in the next couple of years. So this is actually kind of the best outcome as far as the UFC and, Lightway Division goes. It's a great point. We'll be talking about this fight in December when we're talking about fights of the year. It'll be on that list. No doubt about it.
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Starting point is 00:17:07 Shafcott Rachmanoff didn't just beat Neil Magny. He put the boots to Neil Magny. He thrashed him. This was some performance. This is exactly what he needed. 10-8 first round, just absolutely thrashed Neil Magny. then put him away in the second gets the buzzer, beat or submission. What a
Starting point is 00:17:27 performance. I mean, coming out of that win, seeing what he did to Neil Magne, what was your reaction once the tap happened with like, I don't know, five seconds left in the second round? What was your reaction after watching that performance? We saw a human being
Starting point is 00:17:42 fillet, another human being inside the Octagon. That's what happened. He basically just surgically cut through Neil Magny and then choked a man in front of his friends and family to remain undefeiting. defeated inside the UFC. So yeah, Shaft Kaak-Rachmanoff is a horrifying human being. And I tweeted this, and I still don't know. Was that more impressive than Hamzads went over Gilbert Burns? I don't know. Like Hamzat versus Gilbert Burns is a fight of the year candidate? Or is that
Starting point is 00:18:09 what is doing that to the guy who has the most wins in UFC Eltaway more impressive than a fight of the year over a guy that fought for the title? I don't know. That was Uber impressive. So as Jed said, it feels like Shafkat and Hamzad are just on a collision course for the title. But I mean, again, like we're just kind of overlooking the number one pound from pound fighter in the world. Right now, Kamar Usman just goes to show you how bright the future of that welterweight division is. I can't say enough positive things about Shafkat. He's, again, a horrifying human being. He wears a hat made of literal wolfskin to the octagon.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And then he chokes a human being unconscious. and then he wears a wolfskin hat outside of the Octagon. So all power to him. He wants to fight Steven Thompson. Not going to happen. I don't know who he's going to fight next, but I don't care who he fights. He's probably going to be the betting favorite.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Jed, your thoughts on Shafkat's performance. I could sense you're really high on him. And we talked about what you're going to do in your lightweight rankings. You're going to move both Surukian and Gamrod up after that performance. I cannot wait to hear what you're going to do with Shafkatat Rokmanov. Are we, I mean, are we shooting him up? Is this going to be, are you going to just have hit? Is he a top five guy?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Are you putting him that high or is it even higher? Yeah, he's going to be top five. He's going to go top five. I have him 11 now, which I think is the highest anyone has him. And I'm putting him up to five. Yeah, this dude's, this dude's legit. Like, he is the absolute truth and no joke. So at some point he and Hamzot are going to fight.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And that fight is going to be. amazing. It's just going to be like the pinnacle of mixed martial arts and how all that works. It's going to rule and really excited for it. You get boars, which I think means wolf, if not wrong, and you get the dude with the wolf hat. You get the names. See, yeah, same, same, same look. Like, they're the same person only different. And so I'm very excited to watch them, that them fight each other, especially, and hopefully with a title on the line. It's going to be awesome. But yeah, any questions I had about Shavkat, and I had a couple.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I knew he was good. I didn't know it was this good. People don't emasculate Neil Magnet like that. And that was like he just, he wrecked his whole shit good and proper. That's the only way to put it. So, yeah, Shavkot's the truth. And I don't, like, I'm only putting him at number five. But if you wanted to tell me that he could go and do the same damn thing,
Starting point is 00:20:49 to Leon Edwards or Colby Covington, like, I'm not going to argue with you because that man has finished every single human being he has fought. And that is a very impressive thing, especially as the quality of his competition has gotten better, his performances have only gotten better.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And that's championship right there. So, yeah, the top two fights tonight were awesome. Did you like the Stephen Wonderboy-Thompson call out, Jed? Sure. Hold on, I'm going to pull up to UFC rankings because I don't remember where they. I mean, it makes sense for him from that standpoint, though I guess maybe it's, I don't know, he's going to move into their top 10 with the win over Magny and Thompson's kind of an appropriate step up. It would at least be really, I mean, it wouldn't be that interesting because Stephen's kind of washed
Starting point is 00:21:41 and he's been getting trucked in the same manner over and over again and Shavcott would just do the same. But like, it makes sense from a progression standpoint. But the other people atop of him, like, the fight that I would be the most interested in is Gilbert Burns. But then that feels like he's just copying Hamzot, you know? So, but again, it's like Jose said, dude, just match him up. Walter weight, it's not as good as lightweight, but it's still one of the three or four best divisions in the sport. We just mash them together. Anything's going to taste delicious.
Starting point is 00:22:14 My first thought was Gilbert Burns. but then I realized that Rachmanov trains at Sanford, so I don't know how tight they are. I mean, yeah, he does. So I don't know if they're, yeah, I don't know if they're like day and day out training partners because, I mean, Sanford's got a lot of guys and it's a big gym. So maybe they train at different times.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Who knows? But I mean, however high they want to shoot him. Yeah. There's just nobody, because Colby's not going to fight him. And I mean, Hamzaa probably would, but you shouldn't do that now. And then it's Belal Muhammad. Ballal's not going to, I don't think
Starting point is 00:22:48 Belal's going to try that. Ballal's trying to get a title fight, so I don't think he's going to fight the number nine or 10 guy. I think Ballal's going to fight Hamzot in October. Okay. That's, I mean, that's, that, that fight makes sense, but then if
Starting point is 00:23:04 Shavkat won't fight Burns, it's Luque, who just got dumpedrucked, it's Mossvedal, who's Mossvedal, who's Mossvedal, Thompson. Sean Brady, have a fight? No, he wants the ball fight.
Starting point is 00:23:18 That's the one he wants. No, he's trying to fight to some point it. Yeah, I saw the point. He's not going to get that fight. We know that. I mean, Sean Brady or Stephen Thompson would be okay. I don't like the Sean Brady thing because I'm not a huge. I mean, it sounds weird after we just had this main event that was awesome,
Starting point is 00:23:36 but I don't love matching prospects up like that. And I'm very high on Sean Brady as well. But there's not a ton of options based on the UFC's rankings at this point. So either of those fights are fine if you fight Gilbert. I think win or lose, Robbie Lawlin needs to fight Stephen Thompson next. And then I think... I accept. Shofka should probably fight someone like Michelle Pareda,
Starting point is 00:23:59 who's like out in the 15 to 10 range and we'll like test his striking. You know, I think Michelle Padetta could put on a pretty crazy fight against Shafka. Yeah, it's interesting because even Wonderboy in a recent interview said that the two guys he's got his eye on right now are Michelle Paheda and Kevin Holland. And I feel stylistically, like those, after fighting two wrestlers or two guys who just took him down over and over again in the last two fights, I feel like that's about as good as it's going to get for him. Otherwise, did he like that?
Starting point is 00:24:32 Didn't he like say that directly? Like, I don't want to fight guys who are just going to tackle me, which, you know, fair play to him. Yeah, because what Brady called, because Brady called Wonderboy out. He's like, come on, man, you're the nicest guy ever. Like, it was the most respectful call. I was trying trounced. I got trouts for it.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I was like, come on. That dude might actually be the best Welterweight prospect in the world, but he's going to get a title fight in 2027. Like he ain't going to know shit happen. Look, I've mentioned before. It's the problem. Everybody in the world knows a Sean Brady.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You went to high school with three Sean Brady's. They all sell insurance right now. You got to have a gimmick. You got to have something. You can't just be a damn good fighter. So change your nickname to Thunder Jesus, is Sean Brady and maybe people will care about you because otherwise you're going to be stuck
Starting point is 00:25:19 in Leon Edwards land. Had they announced the bonuses yet? I'm still waiting on those because you know Rockmoda is definitely getting a bonus. Rachmanov would and Fight of the Night is for sure the main event. So it's just who's getting the other one. I mean. I'm seeing this start a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:41 What do you think about this, Jed? We're going backwards here with the main event if we're talking matchmaking. If the UFC boosts forward with the fight we think they're going to move forward with, which is Makachev versus Olivera for the vacant title, what about Gamrod v. Darius? Are you in for that? I mean, yeah, that fight would be incredible, but I don't, if they can do that, that fight makes a ton of sense.
Starting point is 00:26:04 But it's exactly what Jose said. I do not care. Put them against anybody that's not named Tony Ferguson in their top 10. That's fine. Like, Tony Ferguson shouldn't be in the top 10. like that's bad but outside of him I don't need to see another demolition just just go no wrong answers there we go our arm and less fight technically it's close to fight could be he's 25s give out yet not a not a bad take rest of the main card because I'm sure we'll have a lot of questions about all those guys Josh Parisian Alan Bedou maybe that will be uh maybe that will be the fight of
Starting point is 00:26:39 the night who knows uh Josh Brazier gets the comeback with uh good performance from Tiago moise gets a rear naked choke in just a strange way where he grabbed his own elbow for leverage. Don't see that very often. So that was well done. Man strength choke right there. It sure was. That's training with Grant Dawson,
Starting point is 00:27:00 having that big, big dude on your back. Umar and I Magamatov, good Lord. What a performance. I actually felt bad for Nate Mayn. And so I'm watching this fight and I'm just like, because I'm thinking, Umar's just going to take him down, submit him in two minutes.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And yeah, it'll sting, you know, on the inside. Your ego takes a little bit of a hit if you get trucked like that in two minutes. But at the same token, I would take that over what happened tonight in a heartbeat. Because I was just like, man, just let him choke you. Just get out of there. Like, this is bad. It's just so bad. Umar just ran him over.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And how one judge didn't give a single 10-8 round to Umar and Amagamatov is a travesty. What's it matter? It's a travesty. that that that I guarantee you that judge was just like this does not matter yeah two minutes in you like if I was a judge I would have written my scorecard out two minutes in and just just sat back and watched it because we knew I was I was doing I was doing I was doing I was doing Twitter reacts and I like write like so-and-so defeat so-and-so as a headline before the fight even started I know Omar and Mugamadam submits Nate manis and I was like
Starting point is 00:28:13 What are we doing here? Like, just finish it. And then the fight end, I'm like, I don't even care what the scorecards are. It's like, you just mollywap to do it on national television. Yeah. Maybe a judge gives a sympathy round to Nate. Maybe Nate gets a sympathy round somewhere. Hey, listen, this is the right guy won, but we'll give him a sympathy round.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Who? Who being dominated less bad than the other round? I felt bad for Dave, man. But, close to him for going the distance. Numar, Umar is about to make. a majestic appearance in my bantam weight rankings this year.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I've been holding off because he hasn't beaten anybody like good, really. And I'm not saying Nate Manus is like great, but I'm done pretending. He's about to get the Hamza straight to the top treatment in my rankings. More importantly,
Starting point is 00:29:07 the champ Algeman Sterling was tweeting about. When I was doing Twitter racks, Algeman was like super high on him. And he even tweeted like, I'll see you soon. So if the champ is tweeting, I'll see you soon. That means he at least is laying the seeds out. I'm not trying to put anybody on blasts here, so I won't say names, but a member of MMA fighting reached out to me in the middle of that fight and said, so if Umar got matched up against Aljo, would he be a favorite? No. It was like, he wouldn't,
Starting point is 00:29:36 but I love where your head's at. No. Yeah, not right now. But he's, he's on a his way. That was some showing. Chris Curtis, nice win. Carlos Oldberg gets his first UFC finish. Shilin Nurund Baca, I think it's how you pronounce it.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I have to go back. I always thought it was pronounced a completely different way. And then Brennan Fitzgerald, who I trust way more than myself, said it a different way. So I'm going to go with that. Sergei Morozov-Gridwin, Cody Durdin, quick finish of JP Bays. I feel like
Starting point is 00:30:13 I like JP a lot. He's a nice guy, but I feel like, you know, I think he's, he's going to have to take a step back, unfortunately. Barra Batista, slick submission over Brian Kelleher, and then Vanessa Demopoulos gets a split decision with Virginia Fry. Go ahead, Jed. I was saying, Batista has to be the other bonus, right? Because I forgot all about the Keller herself, but that was very nice. That was beautiful. That was slick.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Just the, just getting a full amount. Oh, do we have bonus? So I think we have bonuses? I have no idea. Let me just double check. Let me just double check this. I want to make sure we have this correct. Normally I know this by now, but we're still apparently, wait.
Starting point is 00:31:00 We know the main event's getting one, and we know Shafgots definitely getting one. Topology says that there's bonuses already, but I haven't seen them anywhere. Maybe they do the cool thing where everyone who got a finish gets a bonus. That would be nice. They should do that, but I don't think they will. We'll see what happens. Let's go to the peeps while we await the bonuses and see what they have to say about this card.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Because it was good. It was a very solid card. The fights that we were excited about were exciting. All delivered. There were lots of fights on the card, but the fights that we were like, watch these fights. Delivered. Yeah, the main card was.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I mean, even the Parisian Bedou thing was like fun. It was dumb and shouldn't have been on the main car, but it was still fun. The main card ruled. All right. All right. So, so the bonuses. According, I, I'm assuming this graphic is correct. Someone screenshot the bonuses.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Performances are Tiago Moises, Shafcott, Josh Perugian, and then the man of Ang gets fight of the night. Josh Parisian gets a bonus over Mario Batista. Adam Martin called it. Adam Martin called it. Adam Martin called it. I thought, I like that. He got it over Batista? He got it over Batista?
Starting point is 00:32:19 That's what this graphic shows. I don't know what to tell you guys. I'm just. Also, that would be three. They gave three bonuses and a fight of the night. And that would be the biggest slight. Oh, my God. And so, wait, Oberg didn't get one either.
Starting point is 00:32:37 So, like, you got to, but they gave it. Oh, geez. I don't understand anything that the U.S. He does. I do not. Corey Durning getting to get one. They gave a depreation. Oh.
Starting point is 00:32:50 What a wonderful world. This is awesome. That's the man. I can't be right. Spectacular stuff. Why did I ever doubt Adam Martin? Why did I? I can't believe.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Like, I saw that tweet and I'm like, that is just a ridiculous statement. And he was right. Wow. Wow. If I'm Mario Batista, and Cody Darden. I ain't happy right now. That's for sure. Good for Josh. He needed that win. Is Cody Durdon ever happy? Like, come on. He lives in Covington, Georgia. I've been to Covington. You can't be happy there.
Starting point is 00:33:27 It's actually like right outside of Atlanta. So like you really can't be happy there. But Mara Batesis is not from Covington. And he seems like a very happy, jovial individual, very serious guy at times. But, you know, he also totally deserved a bonus. 100% Doing that to Brian Kelleher That is not easy to do Smoked them And like I don't
Starting point is 00:33:46 I never understood that You yeah You congratulations Mr. Prisian You came back And he won your fight But You got beat up too
Starting point is 00:33:55 And you know Ah geez All right All right questions Here we go All right everyone Everyone give 30 seconds On why Parisians
Starting point is 00:34:01 Shouldn't have the bonus And then I'm gonna send it to him Right now Let's go All everyone No they all should have bonuses All All right
Starting point is 00:34:10 Let's go What are we talking about? Because it's heavyweight M. And we should not reward heavyweight M.M.A. Unless it's Francis and Donu, decapitating fools. Or Alexander Romano. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Big, big sexy King Kong. That works for me, too. All right. Let's go. Let's see what the peeps have to say. Oh, I don't know this. Would him better if Rachmanov called out Sean Brady? you'd have to know who Sean Brady is.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Yeah. What did you call him? Thunder dolphin, was it? Thunder Jesus. I like Thunder Dolphin too, though. Actually, I'm totally down to Thunder Dolphor. That's even better. We're going off the rails there.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I love it. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. Talk about the very first fight of the night, actually. I thought Vanessa won all three rounds, but could see you're losing weight. the first to volume
Starting point is 00:35:12 Vanessa still had the biggest moments in round one though I hated that scorecard it doesn't matter it was a good it was a good fight if you scored it 2928 for Demopolis I had no issue with it I just didn't see a world where Vanessa won that first round but it was a good fight
Starting point is 00:35:28 it was a good fight and Vanessa gets a big win and yeah MMA decisions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 10 media members picked Frye winning, one picked Demopoulos. So a little too low on the card for maybe a robbery report from Mr. A. K. Lee, but I think it was a robbery.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And, but, yeah, poor Jen. Good on, Vanessa. It's a good fight. Yeah, good fight. Gin's gotten a lot better. Jin's like a whole different fighter. She looks much more comfortable in her straw weight body, you know, being at an atom weight for years.
Starting point is 00:36:09 and it looks like the move to the gym move to Fortis because she lives in the Fort Worth, Dallas area anyway. So it's all good. I hope the UFC, is that two losses for Jen or is that off a win? No, she was on, she was coming off two wins. Oh, coming off two wins. All right. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Well, at least I'm hopefully, hopefully her job is secure. Now, to be fair, those wins were over Gloria to Paul and Ashley Yoder, both of which I think have a combined 500 record in the UFC. But I'm sure she'll get another fight. And apologies are cut. Yeah. But they are ultimate fighters. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Most importantly, though, I don't care who won because Demopolis has the best gimmick in MMA right now. The jumping into the announcer's things is hilarious. And she should win every fight because I just want to see her jump in everyone's arms. It's really fun. Parisian should have gotten 50K if he did the jump instead of just talking about the jump. Did you see his ghost fight? If he had just jumped without.
Starting point is 00:37:09 warning him at all, I would say give him all the money. Because that would have been truly incredible to watch Bisping, just watch this man, functionally dropkick the air and fall down in the cage. What are you doing? Josh is a hilarious guy too. Tristan Gordon, Schofcott is so legit and he proved it tonight to submit Magny like that. It was so impressive. It's so hard to finish him.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And he was able to do that with no issue. Yeah. I mean, Schofcott's the MVP of this car. That's for damn sure. Good as that main event was, Shafcott's the guy that people are going to be talking about for the next few days until International Fight Week coverage starts. No doubt about it. What does Shafcott need to have to do to get that, harms that type of a lot?
Starting point is 00:37:55 Learn English. Learn English. Is that simple as that, you think? Yep. Because when Mike and I spoke to his manager in Jacksonville, I don't know if you remember the fight he had before this, he had like the UFC translator which isn't nearly as good of what's uh what's his what who's his translator what's his name said i had
Starting point is 00:38:15 zayat who is actually like a very good translator and everyone was really upset including like the ufc because you can't promote a guy that can't really come across as relatable if they're not if you can't understand what they're trying to say so now that's why zaid was in there for this so he got a much better translation but i think it's literally comes down and being able to learn english if he wants to keep fighting in America which is unfortunate
Starting point is 00:38:42 but that's how it is but I don't think you need learn English you just got no like 50 words smash yeah it's not like Hamzot knows English he just says I'm going to smash everyone like and yells it at the top
Starting point is 00:38:54 of his lungs yeah but I guess Hamzot he knows infinite like he knows substantially better English than almost most of Russian fighters and he fought twice in seven days so like he's already ahead he's already ahead he's already ahead
Starting point is 00:39:08 You know, uh, yeah. But if Shavcott just could get like three catchphrases to repeat while he actually learns English, that'd be fine. But you can't promote a dude who's like, all right, tell us what you think. And one, he feels he's more mild-mannered anyway. So it's just less. And then getting that through a third party, it's just not, it's just not the same. Yeah, he needs that catchphrase. Because I remember when, when, even Triple G, when he said, when the first time he said big drama show.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Big drama show. Big drama show. Everyone just weren't crazy. You know, when first time. remember Habib, Habib was dominant forever, but it wasn't until he learned like three words in English that we all kind of. No one cared about him until he did the your chicken thing and Michael Johnson. Like that was it.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yeah. So, all right. So tell Shofcott's manager, just give him five words and repeat. Just cut the Hulk Hogan promo. What you're going to do when Shafcott runs wild on you? And then just like flex and walk away. Like that's, that's enough. That's enough.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Or just howl like a wolf. Like, he got the hat on and just do that. Like, it's fine. Yeah, I guess it right now for him. He's a less as, he's a less as more type guy, I think. If he doesn't know anything, just show a little bit. And then I don't know. He, he, I, like, from a fighting standpoint, like, all the hype that, that, um,
Starting point is 00:40:27 that, um, I think shop got, should have the same amount. But, uh, super fun, super fun, uh, super fun prospects. That's an interesting. Yeah, he needs to be more. I think the activity, the, the, um, I mean, he's fought twice this year, but when he got in the UFC, he was one fight in 2020, one fight in 2021. He's a little more active this year. So I think if he can get in one or two more, I think that's really going to help him.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Shafcott versus Vesente for a potential play of the year. That's not fighting the year. That's a murder. That's no. Well, Vicente's got a fight anyway. So that's fighting Jeff Neal. Oh, that's a much better. That's much closer to being five of the year.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Shafcott is just going to truck Vicente. Tater Tata's offense is it too early for Homs Ever shot? Yes, it is too early. But you best believe the UFC is thinking about that. It is a goal of theirs at some point in the next couple of years to make their way to that matchup at some point. But it's not going to happen now. That fight could headline, because I know every like the, the UFC has to go to Abu Dhabi like once a year. And they have to give them a title fight.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And now that Habib's gone, Islam's the guy that they're going to headline that card with. But say we live in a fairy tale world where Islam doesn't win the title, that fight headlines Abu Dhabi. Yeah, for sure. A, because Hamzat's not getting into the country anytime soon. So they're going to have to fight there. Wait, hold on. See, I'm going to just, I don't really agree with this, but tell me what you think. Moby-Wen Knav.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Hamzat didn't get but one or two times in all his fights up to Burns. That's why Hamzad had more hype his wins more brutal. I mean, I don't think that's, I think there's like some truth. Like, yeah, but still like one, what do you take one significant strike until the Burns fight, right? Correct. Correct. So, but think of the level of competition. So I think, I think tonight, Aaron Brown said her tweet this out, I think tonight Neil Magdie landed the most strikes that have been landed on Shafcott, Rakhmanov since he's gone to the UFC. 11 11 that's good most was nine before that were any of those even like grazing up kicks I felt
Starting point is 00:42:46 like there wasn't nothing like oh yeah he didn't land he didn't land 11 strikes you told me that 11 strikes I do not believe you yeah it's not true yeah I didn't see that either but it's yeah he landed 11 of 11 of 20 actually laid 21 total strikes according to the stats 11 significant Rachmanov landed 19 significant strikes 56 total two of two on takedowns, nine minutes and six seconds of ground control. Insane. Wild.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I like this comment. I mean, the big difference, though, just to put a bow on this, I was like, because I think that is true. It's not that he didn't get hit.
Starting point is 00:43:26 It's just the like, the eyeball test of dominance, Hamzot was more dominant. Now, are you in talk quality of competition? Okay, that's not really how my fandom works. Like, fans don't really care.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Like, care but like broader fan bases that support fighters don't give a shit that you dominated michel pezsche like that's that doesn't matter to them it's like oh hamzat nuked a dude in 10 seconds like that's that's a thing and then a week later he nuked another dude like two minutes or whatever like that's the the eyeball test of his wins are more physically and aesthetically dominant i think there's a good argument that hamzat's wins are better and more impressive both from like a tactical and strategic standpoint, but like one dude feels, and
Starting point is 00:44:12 that's kind of, I think they're different. I think Hamzat feels like a physical force of nature, and Shavkat feels more like a really, really talented fighter that is not as much on that spectrum. Also, not for nothing, Hamza has a scar on his
Starting point is 00:44:28 face and looks terrifying. So, you see those two gentlemen walking down the street. Things got the beard. Yeah, if you see those two guys walking down the street and you say, one of those guys is going to eat another human food. Who do you think it's going to be? It's not a Shavkow.
Starting point is 00:44:42 The guy wearing a wolfhead? But I get too your saying. He can't wear the wolfhead in the cage. If he can wear the wolf head in the cage, but he takes it off and he has that weird like Pee-Wee Herman haircut too. Like he's got to do something with the facial hair. That, like that's how you can get more of a mystique to him
Starting point is 00:45:00 because he looks like a dude who is very smart, but also will quietly kick your ass. Whereas, as Jose said, Hamzao looks like he will eat you. Yeah. Hamzao will be doing the eating. Shafka would just go like this and touch you in like a pressure spot. You would just fall and collapse to the ground.
Starting point is 00:45:17 You would just keep walking. Like nothing happened. You just whistle all the way down the street. You know, the pot of the death. There you go. That these scorecards are a rejection of the scoring. We've seen over the past few weeks where having an edge in wrestling has been discounted, not saying I agree with it.
Starting point is 00:45:33 But that seems to be what it is. So here's another point that somebody just, DM me about it. I wanted to bring this to whoever wants to answer this. There's people who are suggesting that, and maybe there's some truth to this, because most of Surukian's effectiveness tonight came to the body. Those kicks to the body of Gamrot were brutal.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But oftentimes fans, especially who are really into the criteria, feel like the judges don't give enough love to body shots more so than getting punch in the face. Do you see, Do you think that would, like, I don't know how much of a difference that plays in the scoring. I don't know if it plays any, but do you feel like that's kind of an issue right now that, Jed, that shots the body, shots the legs, things like that. Anything above this area, below this area just isn't getting enough credit on the cards?
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah. I think that's been that way forever, though. And it's, maybe it's less that it's, it's not that it's that they're not crediting it. It's that they just head strikes or the premium strike, the premium position. that's the thing that is the most eye-catching. Look, when you get hit to the body and less the dude crumbles up, she just kind of walks through it, and that's how a lot of leg kicks are too. You hit to the head, the head snaps, and you can see the sweatfly,
Starting point is 00:46:48 and you can see the dude's neck turn. Like, it is a more visceral and by definition looks more damaging, whether it is or not. And so I think that that absolutely could be part of it, because really almost all of Surukians' like damage and offense were kicks, whereas Gamrod outboxed him for the most part. And so at least when I, and that's why I said, when I was watching it, I thought that the damage was pretty even, which is why I then went to the secondary criteria.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And I could absolutely see judges just not crediting the bodywork as much in that regard. And then, you know, not even going to the second criteria or like me going to the wrestling as a tiebreaker. and I'll give Gamrod a lot of credit for having one hell of a poker face because didn't show any damage at all he took a spin kick from Armin and hit him right in the face and it looked like it hurt Armin's foot more than Gamrod you know I mean it was like in like I was just like oh if you don't show visible damage then I guess it's not damage so I mean I think that I think that was the difference for Gamrod winning up the judges I didn't have Gamart winning, but to me, he didn't show, like, he didn't show it like anything hurt.
Starting point is 00:48:08 He never went, ooh. And, and Surukian got cut into the eye. And there were points at time in that fight. Surrogian looked tired. He looked tired. I would say, that was exactly. There were points when it did look like Surukian wanted to be there less than Gamron did, and I'm sure that that played a factor with me and with the judges.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Great fight, though. Again, I'm not, this is not a robbery. This is some of the best scrambles we've ever seen. Like that was, I can't remember. The first two rounds is scrambles.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Dude, that, that first round, like, series were the, the first Grammy roll that Gamrod hit, like, that was insane. All of that was so nuts. Yeah, I'd, yeah, it was, it was incredible. I was just like, yeah, I was, I was like, I was like, man, we are so lucky as fans. Like, this is a friend. fight. We're not paying $70 to watch. This is free.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I mean, like this. I mean, you know what I mean. Yeah. But like this was. For anyone. Yeah. And for anyone that was complaining about this being the main event when they announced again, you can burn in a lake of fire. Yeah, you were insane if you were complaining about this fight. Yeah. And just think about this. Just think
Starting point is 00:49:23 about this. You got to watch this fight. UFC Austin, UFC Vegas 56, for less money this month than it cost you to watch Bellator last night. So keep that into perspective. All three of those, you get to watch all three of those events for less money than it cost you
Starting point is 00:49:39 to watch Bellet for last night. 10.99 a month for showtime. I guess that's true, isn't it? Yeah. But this other programming or showtime, but we don't need to go into that. But the Bannonweight Division, blah. Nah, fuck that. Bump that. Oh, no, I'm still
Starting point is 00:49:54 I'm still team 135, but I respect, I respect your guys commitment to lightweight. We get it. I get it. Also, Mike. Bellator doesn't ask us once a month to drop $75 to keep up with the Cummings and Goings. And even when like next week it's totally worth the 75,
Starting point is 00:50:14 that feels like that still should count in some regards towards the overall price pointing here. Yeah, but they don't have $75 card. They don't even have like $30 cards for being honest. If it was not my job, Belator could not get me to pay money. But I would pay $75. dollars a month watch Bellator
Starting point is 00:50:34 if it means I don't have to hear Josh Thompson talk Oh You're going to I was about to Ready? Okay,
Starting point is 00:50:42 I was about to Here we go Yeah If there was a I had a Josh Thompson's Mike He saw me thinking about the horn
Starting point is 00:50:51 You saw me thinking about it I was like Ooh should I horn that one It kind of want to I'm sure How much extra to get rid of Big John too That's the real question
Starting point is 00:51:01 I want big John is a ref again. I thought he was a really good ref. Yeah, he was a good ref. Just do the thing you're good at. Don't branch out. Stay in your lane. Yeah, I'm not going to say that, but I actually think he was a good. More, more Rufian Stats. That's all. Yeah, he was off. Ruffian.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Raphaon. Sorry, Raphaon. What else we got? We'll take a couple more. Yeah, we'll have a couple more. Do, do, do, do, do. Sorry, me. We got a long week ahead of us, friends. We got a long week ahead of us. Dude, next week is going to rank Umar this month? am I going to be the only one. I'm not on the rankings panel.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Oh, that's right. God. 135 is so good. I'll probably rank them. I've got to see them. I feel like I got to see them. I forgot. I got these next questions.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah. I mean, let me find a question. Sorry. Oh, yeah. Dominant Cruz will be exiting my rankings. Hell yeah. I've been trying to kick him out of Bantamite for
Starting point is 00:51:56 for friggin' months. Did Curtis call out Buckley or did the Buckley call out Curtis? Buckley, Buckley, Buckley tweeted and even made a poster. Oh, okay. Do you like that fight? Where to go, Buckley.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Yeah, so I kind of, so Joachian Buckley has had this gimmick since he's come into the UFC, and it started with Gloria M.MA, where he used to train for a little while. He wanted to fight James Krause, and then he just wanted to fight everybody at Glory MMA, and James Krause,
Starting point is 00:52:27 from all the fighters that I talked to, basically set up a rule that said, hey, I love you guys. But none of you, if I don't fight this guy, none of you are fighting this guy. Like, I'm the guy. He wants me to fight. And they all agree. They're like, yeah, man, that's your fight.
Starting point is 00:52:41 So then he goes over to Extreme Couture and he starts training at Extreme Couture. That's where he trained for the camp for Abdul Razak Al-Ala-San, fights Al-Jarayev, who trains at Extreme Couture. And now he calls out Chris Curtis, who also trains at Extreme Couture. So he just wants to run down all the Extreme Couture guys. So, yeah, I kind of like this gimmick. but do you like this fight? I feel like Curtis is,
Starting point is 00:53:06 I thought Buckley's performance against Drive, Jed was tremendous. I thought it was the best he's ever looked, but I just feel like what Chris Curtis has done and is, since coming to the UFC, I just feel like he's ahead of Joaquin Buckley right now. Yeah, I mean, I like the fight on the merits, and I know Buckley's on a bit of a run at the moment,
Starting point is 00:53:25 but like I think Chris Curtis deserves a crack at the top 15. And that Buckley isn't. Like, I, looking at the UFC's right now, like, I mean, hell, yeah, Chris Curtis should be ranked in here above, like, Edmond Shavazian and stuff like that. Like, give him, give him somebody in there. Who's Brad DeVarro's fighting this weekend? Drake is duplice. Okay, so DDP will move into the rankings. Chris Curtis versus, if you ever fight, Imov, has he been rebooked yet?
Starting point is 00:53:56 That's, spoiler for onto the next one. That is my pick. Do it in Harris. That's the fight. That's a good fight. Yeah. That fight rules. Do that.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Yeah. I mean, I'll heavily favor Mbobov, but Chris Curtis has earned that fight. I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. I would watch the hell out of Buckley Curtis, but I do think Chris Curtis deserves a shot at the top 15. Yep. Anything else?
Starting point is 00:54:21 Hey. Yeah. Looking at my band and weight ranking. Yeah, I would say, Normaga Madoff is going to get in there. And it's going to hurt me. It's going to hurt me a little bit to take the man he's going to replace out of the rankings. But I feel like, um, my would just try them.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Oh, yeah, dude, no. I couldn't be more excited for Dominant Cruz to get out of my freaking rankings. Real quick, um, off the Chris Curtis fight. Um, the fight I was way off on prediction wise was, um, I, of course, I predicted Vieira winning my first round submission. Did not happen clearly. Are we? Is Rodolfo Vieira, is he, are we kind of done believing that he's going to be a decent middleweight?
Starting point is 00:55:08 No. I'm, Jed. Yeah, hold on. Hold on. I love this question. And Jed said something earlier on Slack and he said something on Twitter as well that I want you to talk about here. What did you make of Vera's performance overall? Because like, you could tell he's getting better.
Starting point is 00:55:25 You can tell the gas tanks improved a little bit. The striking's getting better. But I don't think. I don't think, Jed, you loved the game plan overall of just spamming the takedown attempts. It was an awful. And I meant what I said. I tweeted that if you shoot 10 take down attempts and do not succeed on one, you should forfeit the fight like a mercy rule.
Starting point is 00:55:47 I think that's absolutely true because that's not fighting. And like, it's just not. And I thought he looked really good on the feet. Like he obviously was improved there. His cardio was improved. He was losing the striking. But he also wasn't. winning by desperately spamming takedowns, especially as the fight went on and had even less
Starting point is 00:56:07 chance of success. Like that, the third round, that fight was up for grabs. I think I had it won a piece at the time. And that, he could have won that, but he spent that entire round, like, just falling over at the hips trying to get a takedown, trying to make that thing happen when he clearly couldn't do it. Instead, it's just like coming forward and punching a bunch or kicking. Like, he was having a lot of success at range kicking, too.
Starting point is 00:56:29 So I'm not done on him being like a good middleweight because his pedigree and the one area is so very, very strong. And he's pretty good athlete. And he honestly looked a lot like very improved in there. But his game plan was horrendous. And because I don't think Chris Curtis had a good game plan, frankly. But he didn't make him pay because he was, he was only going to do the one thing. And the one thing he was trying to do, he wasn't equipped to do and was really bad. So it's he needs to maybe.
Starting point is 00:56:59 we get who's he training with who's he work with Curtis? No uh, Vieer. Oh, oh, I'm not sure actually. I have no idea who his gym is. So,
Starting point is 00:57:11 uh, go to American top team because if you're a professional fight, you should just go to American top team. Um, they're really good and they will teach you to fight smarter and better because like, that was a very winnable fight for him. But the manner in which he went about it, I thought was awful.
Starting point is 00:57:27 And even if, I guess, but again, in that third round, even if, like, his strategy is maybe, like, not the worst in the world, the optics for the referee is you took six shots or something like that in the third round, didn't get close to any of them. All right, that just looks like you're panic wrestling because you feel that you need this. And that's a really bad optic for the ref, too, so for the judges. So, yeah, I still think he has potential. I'd like to see him get with a good team. Cool. You know who probably won the week more than anybody?
Starting point is 00:58:01 Was American Talk Team? Was Mike Brown, who was in the corner of Johnny Eblen in the main event and then flies to Vegas to corner Matush Gamrot for his win against Armand Sorokia. So great freaking weekend for American Talks. Is he there with Dern? Is he there a Dern? Dern's an ATT affiliate.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Yeah. Diego Limo was in this corner. I think he was in Florida. Yeah, he usually trains at, yeah, he usually trains with the Lina brothers. He had a great weekend. Sabatello. Sabatello, I think Cody Law was the only person that didn't. Yeah, they went.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Sabatelo said they went five and one on Bellator. Five and one in the Betoacarting. And they went two and O tonight. So, yeah, hell of a weekend. Great weekend for King Moe has a coach now. Just killing it, man. 2-0 against Missossian championship fights. Why didn't I see that coming?
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah, didn't even think about that, but... Listen, everybody. You know what time... Like, this is one of those things where normally we reflect on these cards for like a half a week, and then by Wednesday we changed course. I feel like
Starting point is 00:59:15 we're going to think about reflect on this fight in this fight card for another day or two, and then it's just all... We're just running to UFC 276. This card is ridiculous, and unfortunately, We are a fight short on UFC 276.
Starting point is 00:59:30 We found out on the broadcast. Lauren Murphy, Misha Tate is off the card. No reason given at this point. There's talks about maybe rebooking it sooner rather than later, but nothing is done yet. That's what I have heard maybe later on in the month. But nothing done. Don't take this information and write articles about it
Starting point is 00:59:53 because you'd be an idiot if you did that. But this is what's being the same. disgust right now, all right? But we're out of here. A.K. and I are back tomorrow morning, doing some matchmaking coming out of this event, onto the next one. And then Halani's back on Monday for the MMA hour. And then Jose and I are off to Vegas on Tuesday. And we have a lot of content coming your way. A lot of content. We're going to have months of content coming out of this week. I can assure you of that. So, and Jed's back at PFL. Look at this. He's going to have new swag wear on the preview show for USA.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Hey. Hey, here's the baby. I can't even go to Media Day this time since Kayla's there. Whoa. Well, next week's going to be fun for Jed, for EKC. Liden, for Jose Young's. I am Mike Eck. Thank you for watching. Hope you enjoyed the fights. I sure did.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Good night, everybody. Love you guys. Happy birthday, AK. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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