MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 60 Post-Fight Show | Cory Sandhagen's TKO Win Caps Off Night Of Gnarly Gashes

Episode Date: September 18, 2022

Cory Sandhagen got back in the win column in the main event of Saturday's UFC Vegas 60 event, although the way it happened didn't make him all that happy. MMA Fighting's Mike Heck, José Youngs, and Jed Meshew react to Sandhagen's fourth-round doctor's stoppage TKO win over Song Yadong — who had a nasty gash over his eye which led to the fight being stopped — to cap off the promotion's return to the UFC APEX, discuss who could and should be next for the one-time interim title challenger, Song's ceiling at 135, and more. Additionally, the panel talks Gregory Rodrigues' nasty gash on the bridge of his nose before coming back to finish Chidi Njokuani in the co-main event, Andre Fili's hard fought win over Bill Algeo, Anthony Hernandez's continued evolution, Damon Jackson's emotional finish of Pat Sabatini, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We are live following UFC Vegas 60, and normally we think about what could be nicknames for some of these UFC cards heading into them. we clearly have a nickname for UFC Vegas 60 coming out of it. The night of gnarly cuts. And we saw them in back-to-back fights, some really nasty ones. And in the end, Corey Sanhagen opened up one on Song Yidong. The doctor gave Song Yidong a chance, a couple of chances to continue on. But after that fourth round, we drew the doctor, wasn't going to let him go into the fifth. And with that, Corey Sankaghan bounces back with the big win.

Dr. Stoppage, fourth round, TKO for the Sandman. And he wants a big fight. We'll see what happens. But thank you for joining us. I am Mike Heck. And I don't think there's anybody happier in this room right now. And maybe watching than Jed Bishu about the result of this fight. And we'll get into that in a moment.

He's doing the happy dance. We'll have him explain in the second. And joining us this week is the freshly shaven Jose Youngs. There he is. How are you, my friend? Bless life. Bless life. Best life. Dead, tell the people why you're doing the happy dance.

Dude, I'm vibing tonight. I had a great evening. Let's be honest, this wasn't the best card. We called it going in. I would say it exceeded my expectations, but not that it did very well. But you know what did do very well? My bank account, because I killed it on this whole card. I went seven and one on my no-bets barred picks.

The one being Pat Sabatini, and I was texting Connor, we did not know about the tragedy for Damon Jackson, and there's zero chance I would have bet against that man had I known what he was dealing with, because why would you saw what happened? I'm sure we'll talk about that fight like that. So I had a great no-beds barred. And on the gambling column,

my plus-2500 long shot of the week, Corey Sanhagen by TKO in the fourth round, I don't know if you guys know that a stoppage cut that doesn't start the fifth fourth round TKO baby so I'm doing great I'm gonna buy a steak and celebrate good

well there you go enjoy that steak well deserved Jose will go to you let's talk I mean you're a high level martial arts kind of guy and we got it in this made event we knew we were going to get it heading into this made event Corey Sanhagen song yodong

very interesting fight. And for those who don't know, the scorecards were very, very interesting because had the doctor allowed Song Yidong to go out in round five, had Song won that round, he would have won the fight because two judges had it two, two going into the fifth. One judge had Sanhagen up three rounds to one.

So had that fifth round happen in Song Yidong dug deep to win it, he would have gotten the biggest win of his career. but didn't happen. We didn't see the fifth round. What did you think of the fight? What did you think of Corey Sanhagan, Jose, bouncing back? And in my opinion, a pretty must-win situation for him, having back-to-back losses and seeing what this division looks like right now.

Yeah, it was definitely must-must win. The fight ruled. I gave Song-Ey Dong the first round. I just think he landed a lot of, I think he just landed more damaging strikes where Corey Sanhagen was much more dynamic. and there's a lot of flashy movements. I think he threw like four or five flying knees, a spinning roundhouse kick. But Song kind of saw them coming and adjusted,

and Corey didn't really land anything like massive in the first round. Song Yadong did. So I gave him the first round. From there, I think Corey Sanehagen just kind of picked it up every single round, especially with that eye cut over Song Yadong's eye. He made fantastic adjustments along the fight. Like Corey Sennig,

clearly was trying to do his thing with the quick lateral movement. and the dynamic movements, but as soon as he saw that cut and he just teed off on it with the elbows, because he was throwing that flying knee a lot. He was throwing a lot of kicks, and Songhung was timing them and avoiding them. And even Daniel Korme,

it was like, Corey Sanhagans, he really threatened a takedown and then go with the knee, because then he might catch song between the eyes. But as soon as he landed an elbow and he saw he could take advantage within the distance and he adjusted his game plan to no longer fighting a range,

but fight closely with elbows and knees and everything, Corey Sanhagan just took off from there and he just proved that he is very easily one of the top five band and weights in the world. Who he fights next I'm sure we'll talk about but I had Corey Sanhagan up 3-1. I get the 2-2

maybe the second or third round for Song-e-Dong, but I think round one I think I very clearly scored for Song-e-Dong, but I had three on Corey Sanhagen. Chad, what did you think of the fight? And who did you learn more about in this fight? Did you learn more about Corey Sanhagen with his back kind of against the wall?

or did you learn more about Song Yidong? Because had he won the fifth round, he would have arrived. And we would have felt, we felt pretty consistently that had Song Yidong won this fight, it would have been because he arrived and took that big leap. And he was very close to doing it tonight, considering what scorecards looked like. That's going to sound really cliche, and it is. And I'm okay with that.

This is one of the very rare times where I genuinely don't feel like either got lost. Obviously, one guy wins and loses in the record books. One guy gets double paychecks. But this is the best possible outcome because had Song ended up winning that fight, I actually don't think he would have arrived in the same way that I envisioned it, right? He would have showed some things that were good and that he is still making a progression. But it wouldn't have been this huge quantum leap that sort of I envisioned was necessary for him to win the game outright. So I think as weird as it sounds, him taking this.

loss in this way still showed me all those same things and it's okay because he's only 24 this is a cut stoppage loss totally a real loss legit but it's not the same as getting stunned it on or outclassed like he just things didn't break his way entirely and if they fought that back honestly the betting odds are going to be a lot closer it's going to be a much closer fight but i learned a ton about Corey Sandhagen, he looked great. Like, the, I don't, he didn't look as good or as dynamic as he has in many, like many of his other fights, but we got to see the machinations of his game in a way that we haven't really seen as much.

We saw as, as Jose pointed out, the adjustments he made, figuring out the distances he could operate in. And then beyond that, when it, when it really became evident, okay, this fight has a time on Like this fight is not going the full distance because that cut is that way. We saw him fight in a way to shorten that clock as much as possible while still staying as safe as possible. He would stay all the way out, use that distance, use that range, poke with the jab. We saw him go to the jab a ton more. I mean, he used it a lot anyway, but especially in the middle to later parts of that fight,

he is just keeping that lead hand as a blocker, as a buffer. or so because song ran out of tools, song ran out of options to close the distance to land the power strikes he was landing earlier in the fight and Corey would either hit reactive shots on him to really I think it's Cormier was saying really off off kilter what song's trying to do and his come forward or he's just feeding him with the lead hands.

We saw a bunch of little small adjustments from Corey that were awesome like they were really good. Now I'm not sure those will carry water against the top top guys in the division that he's already lost to, but it's great to see that. It's great to see he has that. It's great to see that he's still totally at his fastball. I don't think anybody thought he was going to fall off,

but he's still hitting the prime of his career. And he stayed in the conversation, right? Like he's going to get to fight probably Marlon Barre. Like he's probably fighting Cheeto next. That's probably what's up. That fight's going to rule. So everybody wins here. There's a really good outcome all around and a really good fight.

Do you agree with that, Jose? think we just go Cheeto Vera versus Corey Sanhagan, but we also have Marad Welsh, really, who beat Joseo. He could fight Josealdo if he wants to go to Brazil and fight Joseoaldo. There's lots of guys he could fight here. Rob Font, maybe the beginning of next year, all those fights kind of makes sense. But is there anybody that sticks out to you? Because another two wins, and he's, this is a very good chance he could be fighting for a title depending on who's the champion. I think we need to see how these fights come up play out before we can really matchmake.

Like I also, I get why people want to see the Aldo fight and the Dominic Cruz fights of the world for Corey of Sennigman. If he wants to keep moving up, he's going to have to fight guys coming off wins that are still ranked. So I guess realistically, it's got to be Marab versus Cheeto. Don't really care which one. I just want both of those fights to whichever one happens to be a five-round main event.

But because I'm also under the assumption, like in this whole scenario, like if Sean O'Malley beats Peter Ian, he's going to get the next title shot. I think that's pretty obvious. No question. If Peter Jan wins, if Peter Jan and Al Jermaine Sterling win, they're not going to do that third fight anytime soon,

I don't think. Maybe Yon needs one more fight, and then maybe he fights Cheeto or Mara. And I know he has a lot of beef with Maraub, so maybe they try to do Maraub versus Jan, and then they can do Cheeto versus Sanhagan. Or if O'Malley wins and T.J. Dillishal wins, or there's some controversy.

Maybe they try to do Cheeto Vera versus Sean O'Malley, too, because, I mean, that's honestly, of all the fights that make that sell in terms of cross-appeal, I'm going to assume it's Sean O'Malley versus Cheeto-O-Vare, considering Cheeto-Vera has become very popular, and Sean O'Malley has the most crossover appeal of all of these bantam weights we're saying, and he's not even a top five bannum weight in the world. So I just think we need to see how a couple of these fights play out, because even Adrian Yon is just kind of sitting out there.

I know he was supposed to fight Rob Fombe before that didn't happen. Yeah, a lot of fun fights. selfishly, I want to see Cheeto versus Corey Sanhagen. I just think that's a striker's delight. But I'm not going to say no to any of these, honestly. Yeah, I mean, if they do Janus Fon, next year, cool.

I know Fonso to the least March at this point. Who's going to fight Aldo in Brazil? Who's going to bite that bullet? Because I want to see. There's no way. I will see, I want that, but I don't think Don McRooz is going to Brazil, just after his face caved in.

I could see like a Ricky Samoff. I can see like a Ricky Simone type jumping on that opportunity. No, no one, no, stop talking about this. Nobody gets to fight Josie Aldo that's not Dominic Cruz. If it's going to be his last one or close to his last one, he's not fighting Rick and Simone. That's an awful thing for us to do. It's also tough, even with this Bannon-Wates,

because Frank Edgar has also said the next fight's probably it. And I also want to see Frankie Hector versus Dominic Cruz really badly. Yeah. That just won't happen because of time because doesn't Frankie want to fight at MSG? Yeah. I think that one's just, there's just no chance. Just give Dominic a bunch of money to go to Brazil and fight Aldo next year. It's awesome.

Let's do that. Yep. Don't hate that at all. You can do Adrianianez versus Cody Garbrand. I like that idea as well. Wow, you want to get Cody dead, huh? Listen, we try with this Ronnie. I think not once, but twice.

It's done. It's over. We need to move on. We need to turn the page. What about Jose Aldo versus Cody Garbrand in Brazil? That's also fine. I accept that one as well. That's the best second option for Don't.

Dominic Cruz. Don't do Corey San Diego and Jose Aldo. That's nonsense. Jed, which cut was worse? Song you dongs or Gregory Rodriguez's? I think from an actual, like, fight medical standpoint, I am not a physician. I am a doctor. I am not a medical doctor.

I don't know which one is worse. I would assume that Songy Dongs was worse because it is a gaping chasm directly over his eyeball and clearly was pouring blood into his eyeballs during that fight. So I would assume that that is worse. But like DC said it and I, or maybe it was Felder and it is probably not like medically correct, but it feels correct that like, I don't know, man, Robocop's nose might have just fallen off his face if that fight kept going much longer because it's just all right here. Like it's the whole top of his nose.

It's just it's a gash. I don't I've never seen that cut in combat sports. I've been watching this like 20 years. That was, I was astonished. They let that fight continue. That one feels like it's going to be way shittier to recover from. I don't know if that's true or not. But like if I had to pick which one of those I'd rather have now,

during a fight, give me Robocops because that felt way less obtrusive. But like for right now, if you were had to give me one of those, give me song yodongs that's just stitches right there i have a scar of my in my eyebrow for the rest of my life that seems okay i just data white just posted on his i g story what rodriguez this cut looks like now with the doctor like kind of holding it open it i don't want it i don't want horrible it's horrible there's a reason i'm not a medical doctor it's so bad wow it's so bad did you see it Jose you can go oh oh oh oh You can see his skull.

Oh, come on, man. You did it. You can see a skull. You can see the tendons. Does Damon put it in the slack? I put it right in the slack. Whatever, though. Yeah, I also, not for nothing.

I like how Dan just calls him Greg. Just Greg Rodriguez. I don't know why that's so funny to me. That's kind of awesome, actually. I'm pretty in on that. Greg Rodriguez. I don't know why that. They know a lot, but that's awesome.

That's hilarious. He's no longer Gregory. He's now a man who goes by Greg. That's tremendous. I'm calling him Greg from now on. Greg. Greg Robb. Of course.

Stop posting this. What the hell, Sean? Oh. Everyone is posting this image and it's scarring me. Turn off social media and turn off slack. I changed my opinion, Mike. Whatever, whatever waffling I, was doing. No, Robocop's cut is worse, unequivocally worse. You mean Greg's?

Yes, Greg. Greg's cut. Greg. Greg got the worst of the cuts. And the fact that he came back in one, that fight is outlandish. That dude's awesome. Jose, I mean, come on. That first round was wild without the cut. And then just to see, it was like a roadmap on his face. It was like the brow, straight line across the nose to the brow. It was just wild. And then see Robocop, to see our guy Greg, come back with just viciousness and with the flurry, gets the fight to the ground and just pounds out a very game cheating in Jokawani in the co-main event. Were you like losing your mind?

I was losing my mind watching that entire fight. That was just, that was insane. And that was a moment that this card needed badly. Like there were some cool fights, but this was like, what we think about this card, we're going to be thinking about that fight. Yeah, lately, I've been watching a lot of horror movies in night, but I feel like my fill has, I've got my fill tonight. You got sated from that?

Yeah, it was, that was a good time. As someone who I don't, I'm not squeamish, so I saw that, and I'm just like, that's pretty wild. So I'll show they'll stop the fight. And then it didn't happen. I was like, that's probably going to stop soon. And then it didn't end. I was like, damn, Greg Kopp is a bad dude.

So, yeah, good fight. Greg cop. Greg Rodriguez. Well, I mean, at least we get to see if you could see the actual cut closed up and stitched up. So that's a little bit more of a less gnarly image, Jed. But I mean, you called it, man. You said Greg Rodriguez and you win this fight and cash a dog ticket. But it was looking pretty scary for a minute there.

Casey called it because Casey called TKO in the second round from ground and pound. Casey had it nailed all the way. I thought he was going to tap him in the first. And for like a brief moment, that was maybe true. But instead, he got, he had to go through hell because this dude loves to do that. He's middleweight Justin Gaichi. He rules. He is appointment viewing every time out.

Middleweight Justin Gaichi. I like that one. What do we do here? We have bonuses, by the way. We have bonuses. I bet Greg got one. He was one half of one. Yeah, I assume that was the man of him.

Oh, well, that definitely should be fine. by the night. Honestly, you should give Greg performance for that too. Come on, man. Greg did not get a

performance bonus. That was fight of the night. Performance bonuses go to. Damon Jackson for sure. That's one. Like you, if you don't give it

to Damon Jackson, you're a bad person. And Joey P. Joey P. Of course, Joey P could have won a decision he was getting one.

But yeah, he did what he needed to do. Yep, there's your bonuses right there. Damon Jackson, Joe Piper, and then, and cheating and Greg for their six-and-a-half-minute incredible fight.

I'm okay with that. I would argue that Anthony Hernandez actually deserves it more than Joey P. That was a hell of performance. Dude, he was a hell of performance. And Joey P. killed the worst fighter in the UFC. So a degree of difficulty. Daniel Wolf didn't fight tonight. Is she still in the UFC?

I have no idea. I don't know. Jed, two questions. One, will Greg Rodriguez be ranked in your rankings? 100%. Two, who's he fighting next? If you had the magic pencil, what are we doing here? Let me pull up my rankings and see who feels like.

I am definitely giving him the number 15 spot in my rankings just out of respect. I'm not saying that necessarily he deserves it, but like, I've got Anatoly Tokov in here. come on, we could just cut him out of my rankings and put Greg in after that. Like, that rules. I'm totally okay with that. And there's a little peek behind the curtains and how rankings actually work. We just make them up however we feel like it.

Ooh, what's just, what's DDP doing? He's got to fight, dog. Come on. You can read about it on MMAfighting.com. He's fighting Darren Till. Great website. Yeah, Darren Till. Okay.

So having fight DDP because we all know Darren Till is not going to make it too. fight. That's, that's, that's, what, you said he has a fight and then you said, Darren Tell. So let's do Driscus, do, let's see. I feel good about that one. All right. All right. Bill Algeo, tried his darkest. Oh, I'm also cool with, wait, was Sean Strickland the one who pulled out of the cannone ear fight or was they rebooked that fight? Well, they ended up actually rebooking it. Well, 17th. Yeah, back to DDP then. Yes. You could find that. one also at MAAfighting.com, great website. Boarding for Flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes.

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but your taste buds too. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Conditions apply. Jose, we featured about Andre Feeley. Speaking of emotional wins, it was a very emotional win for Andre Feeley. Look great in that third round.

One judge actually scored the third round for Bill Algio because Bill, despite his back being taken for almost the entire round and almost submitted multiple times, he was landing some strikes. A judge actually gave a round, that round to Bill Algio. Andre Feeley was pretty pissed off about that. F that judge, but Feeley comes back and gets a big win over a very tough guy. What did you think of Andre Feeley's performance, especially now knowing, man, what this guy's been going? through leading into this fight. Yeah, it looked like he clearly didn't.

Like, Andre Feely is a super dynamic, exciting fighter, and he puts himself in a lot of risky predicaments that have come back to bite him. Like the Bryce Mitchell fight, he was being real dynamic, and Bryce Mitchell just kind of held him down. I can't remember who he lost in his last fight, but he just kind of got caught. So, and this fight, he just seemed more measured. Like, the first round was not, was tight, but after that, Phelie. kind of put it together. I don't quite understand. Like I get like from the outside looking in,

you see biology just punching Andre Fili a lot off his back, but Andre Feeley was just like, all right, I'm just going to stay here and try to submit you three or four times. So I don't quite understand how a professional judge could give that away, especially because when you're watching a fight K-side, it is very hard to see angles that we get through a television. So if you're watching it on a monitor, fine. But if you're watching a K-Side, I don't quite understand it. But yeah, Andre Feeley didn't look like he was going to blow the doors off of anyone, but he definitely put a perfect game plan together for specifically Bill Algio, and he looked great. I fully expect him moving forward to just every single fight just get better and better and better like he did

and eventually be in the top 15 because like we've all heard the stories of Andre Feeley. He's very clearly a top 15 featherweight in the UFC. Sometimes he gets caught or he stumbles at the goal line and I'm very, very excited to see who he's matched up with because featherweight is awesome. And at one point, he was on this fantastic run. And I think he ran into, who did he run into? Sadiq Youssef. Am I remembering that correctly?

Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, and that fight was really good. And we see what Sadiq Yusuf is doing now. So André Fili fights the best and beats the guys that aren't quite on his level. And he beats the guys that are even better than him at some points too. So I'm excited to see what he does moving forward. Yes, it was that. And a lot of people actually thought,

Andre Feeley won that fight. Then he beat Charles Rodane. Yeah, and then he just fight Bryce Mitchell. The Daniel Panetta fight, he looked probably the best he's ever loosed. And then accidental I poke. That sucks so much because even Daniel Panano was like, that dude was effing me up. So I count that as a win. Yeah.

And then Joy Anderson Brito is a tough fight for anybody. And then comes back with the win here. Jed, do we just do the two feel good stories here next? Do we do Andre Feeley versus? Damon Jackson, the greatest BTL performer, maybe of all time, because he beat Sean Al-Shadi while jogging on a treadmill for the entirety of the show. I mean, that will remain impressive. I am not confident.

I want to call that a feel-good story just because I don't. It's way better that he won, obviously. But, man, nothing about that. Yeah, it's just, I had no idea until the broadcast. and that is, I genuinely can't imagine losing a sibling and then like still going through fight we can do it. I don't understand that at all. So nothing but respect for that dude. And he fought exactly like I would have imagined if you told me as they did what had happened.

Like that dude is you could put Brock Lesnar in against him. He's going to beat the hell out of that dude. It does not matter tonight. Yeah. that was did it wasn't feel good but it was it was affecting it was emotionally affecting certainly yeah yeah you got you just watch the man exercise as many demons as possible in there it's like he just let it all out as much as he could obviously that'll never leave him but for that moment he was able to let you

know his whole family do it too yeah his whole family is there and doing it too and that is like I has the super super wild yeah definitely deserve that bonus well done um let's just run down the the rest of the main card we mentioned joel pi for rodrigo nascimento beats tanner bozer trip to splitty city anthony hernandez outstanding performance this guy gets better and better can't wait to matchmake for him tomorrow i think anthony hernandez should fight gregory rodriguez That's fine fight Quite a fun fight As soon as Gregory won him

Like that's what I want to see Yeah Tony and Greg That'd be a good one Trevin Giles meets Louis Kosi And honestly that might have A fight we're probably not going to be talking about anymore No Lomaluk Bood me

Another really Another story of somebody who's overcome a lot In between her most recent performance To her win over Denisi Gomez Tray Ogden beats Daniel Zelluber, who just didn't really show up tonight, if we're being honest, but Trey took advantage of that. Julian Robertson, I want to talk about this.

One of the, I mean, one of the most violent rear naked choke submissions you'll ever see, Jose, you never, you see fights, it's the nap or tap kind of a thing. And Maria did like neither of those things in a weird way. And it looked like she was, it looked like Gillian Robertson turned her into a, a zombie after this fight. It was kind of scary. It was very weird to watch. Yeah, she made Maria Gobba of a forget how to fight.

That's pretty much what happened. Gillian Robertson is one of those fighters where she's either going to kill you or you're just going to have to kind of edge out a decision. I know Macy Barber finched her on the feet, but Julian Robertson didn't go down. The referee stopped that while. Macy Barber was just kind of teeing off on her. I think that was in the Boston card we were at, if I remember correctly, Mike. but other than like she like off the top of my head like she has like the most finishes win finish wins

uh in ufc flyweight women's history the most submission wins in all of ufc women's history regardless of weight class the most which obviously means she had the most efficient submission wins in the flyway division and i don't know if she has the most but she might have the second or maybe even tied for just the most fights in general in the flyweight division's history so uh julian roberts and i think they were even like there was like a suspension somewhere in there for like marijuana at some point which is a little weird so uh she's missed a big chunk of time and she still has all these records so i think jillian is one of these fighters that you're either gonna she's like i said she's either going to get edged out on the scorecards or

she's going to just kill you in there and i think she is a supremely exciting fighter and just one of the better submission uh offensive submission fighters in the women's divisions regardless of weight class and then last name i wanted to bring up for you go to the peeps jed Jabid Basharat. This guy's really good because Tony Gravely is a very solid 135er and I thought Javid won the entire, I thought he won all three rounds.

You want to give Tony the first? I'm okay with that, but I thought Basharat won all three rounds and this guy's going to be a problem at 135. He's just going to get better and better. He's a really good fighter man. I gave Gravley the first. If you wanted to give it to Basharat, that's okay.

But Basharat, But the thing is he's a really good fighter. I think he's going to be an even better fighter when he starts getting 25s. You know, like just the way he fights, the adjustments he makes, just how he kind of builds layers on top of layers of offense. I think that's going to really do well

as he has more time to develop. More fighters should get to fight 25 minutes. It would be really cool. And when he becomes one of those, I'm really excited to see what that looks like. Agreed. And then good win for Nicholas Moda. kick things off with the first round finish.

So we'll take a few questions from the peeps. We're not going to go much. No 50K for him. No 50K for him. We'll take a few questions because obviously we do not want to keep our wonderful combat sports fans away from the biggest fight of the weekend,

which is about to kick off at about 10 to 13 minutes. We've still got four rounds in the coming. Yeah, we'll just think you go. We'll get there. And while you wait, you can go listen to M.A. Fighting Spreezy show. of Canello versus Triple G on the podcast network

starring Jose Young's and Jedmi Shoe. So I saw a report. I think Canello is making a guarantee $55 million. Wouldn't surprise me. And Triple G is making a guarantee $20 million. So don't watch it. Yeah. Don't watch it, guys.

They are not motivated to fight. Yeah. And not hungry or interested. The pay-per-view is $85. dollars. And it's going to kill it. It's going to do over two million buys. Also, Logan Paul is on it right now.

So that's exciting if you're into that kind of thing. Just in the commentary? He's talking to whoever the dude is with the microphone that's not Caged side, but you know, the like Heidi Andrel sort of thing. This is what, it's because Connell is the biggest box office draw in combat sports. This is like everyone rolls out for him. Yeah. I don't know why.

He's not motivated to fight, $55 million. And he keeps running away from opponents from what I've been told. Hopefully Rodrigo Nassimento was given a ticket into the building because that's all he asked for. He didn't ask for a bonus. He asked for a ticket to Triple G Canelo. He deserved the hell out of it. Go give him that. Do that.

Why not? It's still rather depressing, right? It's depressing literally every fight week. I kind of forgot about the Nicolas Moza thing when he was talking the story of, you know. His whole backstage thing was horribly sad. I was like, eh, me, yeah, I don't know. Maybe you see let them watch the pay-per-view for free in the green room. I don't know.

That seems unlikely. No, you're not allowed to stay in the group. Don't they kick them out now? Yeah, yeah. All right, all right. They did this. Back to the Mix Martial Arts. I'm just kind of putting it on, Gonzalez.

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm going to make it this bigger for you guys. By the way. The question from Rich P. top tier, what is Song Yadong Sealing ultimately will he be a champion in his career? So it's important to know for those who are not aware. Song Yadong is only 24 years old. He's going to be 25 in December.

This dude's got a long way to go. What would you rate his chances on a scale 1 to 10, Jose? I know it's hard to forecast next fights and things like that, especially in this. division, but if someone handed you $50 right now and said, you can only use this $50 on betting on whether or not Song Yidong will be a UFC champion, what would you put it on? Hmm. Being champion? Wow, that's really tough.

That's tough. The division is so good right now and he's so young. I don't think he's going to be champion in the next year or two, but you want to tell me a five year Song Yadong is going to be banning away champion in the world. They'll say, okay, yeah, sure. So if you give me in five years, he will be sure. Why not? You won't even be 30 in five years.

Yeah. You can't even run a car. You can't even run a car and drive somewhere right now. Well, Song Yudong be a champion, Jed, before his UFC careers is over and done with, which probably won't be for another eight to ten years of this point. I'm trying to look and see who I can comp them to. If I have to make a bet yes or no,

no but his ceiling is champion like that is that is he can be a champion there's go that is he has the opportunity to do so I mean he is not like a world beating athlete but he is a very he's a very plus athlete he has a a plus skill set in that he hits people extremely hard and he's showing some layers to his game needs to add a lot but good takedown defense hits pretty well works in combination okay okay defense in general. There are a lot of tools there to build on. I can't honestly think of anyone that is immediately jumping to mine that's like a super comp for him. And so it's tough for me to be like, oh yeah, here's what his career as champion looks like. Maybe the closest I can come is Davis

and Figuerreto, honestly. But I think Figgy's a better athlete compared to division than song is. And I put a lot of stock in athleticism as kind of the decider in who gets to have a belt and who doesn't. So I think he will fight for one. I would be, I will bet happily that he will fight for a belt before his career is done. I don't think he'll win one, but I think that that is within the realm of possibility. He's also not the shortest bantam weight. Like he's pretty average size for bantam weight. He's also taller than Volcanowski.

So I think eventually at 20, he's 24 now, a very much. eventually I think he's going to have to go up to featherweight. At some point, at some point he probably, I just have no idea what he cuts now and it's really tough to gauge because Corey's like you see you see Andre Feeley who's like super tall for featherweight and then Song Yadong is much shorter than him. Yeah, it's, uh, I assume that he won't just because it's there are very few fighters. And I'm like, that dude's going to hold a belt. Uh, but it's it is very much in play for him. Yeah. I think he is, um, I think the road will be built for him to get to a title shot. It's just on him. He will have his chance. I will say that. He's kind of Josh Emmidy. It's a little bit of.

Yeah. A younger version of Josh. Well, yeah. Obviously, Josh is like 50. Yeah. Oh, geez. Yeah, he's, that's a good, that's actually a pretty good comparison. I'm going to put this name out there, and I'm not trying to shit on him or anything, but like, would this song you don't,

beat Prime Cody Garbrandt who was a UFC champion? Not even close. See, that's what's crazy. How much better the Bantamweight division is right now that Song your Dong? Cody Garbrant was freaking champion and Sonia Dong is what top? Is he top? I don't even like I think I think Cody like because Cody was like the Cody that fought Dominicruz to win the belt had oh man who was in his corner.

Can't believe I'm blanking. Justin Buckelts, who has basically prepared like a dozen fighters to fight Dominic Cruz. And then eventually they all put it together. And Cody Garbrandt just fought. Dominic Cruz had done back-to-back five-round fight camps in the span of like 10 months. And then I think there was a lot of factors that I think Cody Garbrandt wins that night 10 out of 10 times. But if Cody fought TJ that night, like if TJ was the champion, I think Cody would, T. TJ would have been Cody Garbering, if that makes sense.

And this is why. I think song, that's why I think song, that's what I think, what as good as song is, this is why I think he won't be champion because he doesn't, I hate guys just hate, I hate even getting this argument, but he doesn't move the needle enough. Yeah. And Cody did. And that's why Cody got into the position to even. Cody definitely moves the needle.

So I agree with that. Do you know what I'm trying to say, I think Cody's got this, I think song has a skill level to be champion. I just don't think he has demarcability. I think you're vastly underestimating the fact that Song Yidong is Chinese and the UFC is very interested in having Chinese champions. This is true. Wiley Zang, I would not say Wiley Zang. Yeah, because let's not forget one. The biggest needle mover ever, but they're going to throw her infinite title shots because they are invested in this.

And let's not forget when Waley fought Jessica Andrade the first time, she should, she was like their third option. Yeah. The other's not. People above her just weren't ready. and then after that Tom Brady's tweeting about her she's going to flound to Patriots games And the UFC did just put Originally put Leach has the co-main event on a paper view

Yeah Which we kind of questioned but I was wondering Maybe we just don't know Leach's markability Because we're just saying this from American point of view I have no idea what the market I don't know the answer I am

I think that they're They're gonna be behind song I agree that he has like a ceiling in Certainly in the American side of audience, but I think they're, they're clearly trying to be in the China's about to have a champion after November 13th, so yeah. So, I mean, that's, it's true. And I agree with Jose, too, like, Cody Garbrandt had a very unique title, which is, so

I think he's one of, yeah, one fair and square and that was not, that was so far from a close. And I, I think he wins that fight like nine times out of 10 over Dominic Cruz. I also just think that like we then saw pretty clearly that if you can hit very hard, there's a really good chance you're going to knock Cody Garber now. And for whatever Song of Dong's faults are, it ain't chin. That dude is tough than the $2 steak. If Cody Garberant wants to get in a hooking contest with that man, he's going boom first. Oh, man.

I agree. In the early round songs, like his left hook was like, dude, it's so fast. Ooh, so fast. So sure. And that's why Cody. That's the only around I scored for song because he just like Cody, like Corey Sending and literally fell like backwards from blocking. Yeah.

And that's why that's why Corey's such a good fighter. He was like, I got to wrestle this guy. I don't have to take him down, but I have to get him tired because those hooks are dangerous. And just disrupt his rhythm. The wrestling was great. Yeah.

I thought DC did a good job on talking about the, the effectiveness of just non-effective wrestling. Because you think, oh, if you don't get the takedown, it didn't work. But he was, no, it does work just the threat to take down. I think that's very important. I thought DC did a good job pointing that out repeatedly. He's been way better in the booth, honestly, since Dominic Cruz called him out. And I know that they, like, beefed but didn't beef.

But I actively think he's been better. Can we also talk for just a moment? Because we're all doing all the happiness. Corey Sandhagen, I don't know what the hell your deal is, dude, but you can't give your back to stand up. like you just can't do it that's what Aljo killed you like literally that is why Aljo killed you and you do that he did it twice against song he didn't get he didn't get he did him both the first and the second and he didn't get punished or maybe it was one and three and like he almost got punished really badly in the first one and the second one the song was already bleeding

in the whole thing like if your go-to stand-up is to post head and turn your whole back and run away a Sterling will do exactly the same thing and you will get throttled to death immediately. I don't know who the hell taught you that. Please stop doing it. It was giving me connipions watching it. It is a bad habit. It definitely is bad habit.

It's an awful habit. That I think he gets away from the gym. He didn't get away if it. Yeah, he gets away from the gym. It very much feels like it's the thing he gets away within the gym. And that's why Aljo Sterling is like, cool, man. You just want me to have your back? That's awesome.

I'll spend the rest of the round or just choke you out. Ask Peter Jan. Talk about another good performance that arguably deserved a bonus. You talked about it a little bit, but I think it deserves a little bit more. I'm impressed you with Fluffy's grappling. I thought I was watching Kane Velasquez in there. I mean, the fight with Josh Frumt was incredible too.

Like the pace both those guys put on was great, but Fluffy's getting better. Every single fight, I thought he looked spectacular. spectacular tonight. I would like to see here. I don't know if I'm ready to throw him in there. I don't know if he's top 15 in our list, but I have somebody in mind that's probably just outside our top 15,

but would be a super fun fight for both guys. What did you think, Jose? Because it's, Fluffy's getting better and better. Fluffy's getting better and better every time we see him. Yeah, and he reminds me of, man, Who's that cat? And he reminds me his manner about and the way he approaches fighting reminds me a lot of Henry Corralis in Bellator where he just kind of answers the phone and just says, who am I fighting? All right.

And then he just kind of shows up. He don't care about no rankings or styles of fights or whoever. He's just like, cool, and tape up my ears. I'm going to break brick inside the octagon. I don't think, I'm not, I'm definitely not ready to put in top 15 because I think who's 15 in our ranking? Dracus Duplessis last I saw That might be right Hold on I'll pull it up

Yeah I'm not ready to put him above Anthony I'm not ready to put Anthony Hernandez above Driggis deplesses just yet I think eventually goes It is DDP Yeah and if DDP is the 15th I'm not putting Gregorouca Greg Copp in the top 15 either

Just yet Which is why I'd like to see that fight But yeah Anthony Hernandez is a fun dude That win over Hidalvo Vieira Has kind of aged like milk I know at the time it kind of blew my mind and I still stand by the fact that that was my submission of the year when it happened.

I still agree with that, but Hedolfo Villera has, what, he's one in one in his last two fights since then, if I remember correctly. And Chris Curtis just kind of took his soul with his cardio. So, yeah, but Anthony Hernandez is a guy that I'm going to, when we do preview shows and you say, what's a low-key banger, the answer is probably going to be Anthony Hernandez. if he's won half of a fight. Anthony Hernandez versus Phil Haas. Is that interesting to you?

Sure. Phil's fighting. Oh, he has a fight? No, no, mind. Who's he fighting? He's fighting somebody. Okay, never mind. I just...

I have a better one. Okay, I have a better one. No, I was never big on Fluffy Hernandez. I thought the, like, the age-like milk kind of thing. I kind of agree with that. But he is improving. He is a much better fighter. I feel like in, yeah, I actually, I actually, I am, I, he, I've changed my opinion on Anthony Hernandez.

I am, I do want to see. Walking, Buckley would be a fun fight, too, or Gerald Mearschard, if you just want some high-level scrambles. Jeremy Schart, yeah, cool. Because Gerald Mirchard seems down the ground with anyone, too. Yeah. I really like those, those style of fights. He is. Phil Haas, I mean, listen, if something happens with Roman DeLidez-A,

oh, Roman DeLeads. Just call Fluffy. He'll go in there and fight Phil Haas October 12th. There you go. And since we have some boxing to watch it. So we got one more question. I think it's an interesting one. Should the last two fights have been stopped sooner before they did?

Any other commission would have stopped it the moment and impacted the fighters. I don't know about the second part, but. Yeah, I don't quite. I don't think the second part's true. But would we've been okay with a stoppage after, was it after the first round on each fight? Pretty much. I wouldn't have complained. I think it was the second round for the main event.

Well, okay, but after the initial big cut. Yeah. I would have had no issue in the Greg fight if you had stopped it, though I think it probably was right. And maybe this is hindsight, Greg won. But like, I am not sure that was really affecting him that badly from like a permanent damage standpoint. But if you had stopped it, obviously that's. It's fine. I do think they shouldn't have let song go out for the fourth.

I was really surprised they did. If they had let it start in the fifth, that would have been really bad. I think they should have stopped it. And you're talking to, again, a dude who cashed a plus $2,500 ticket because they let it go to the fourth. I just don't think that I think they should have stopped it at three. That cut was really, really bad. It was clearly bleeding directly into his eyes. Yeah, I'm actually okay with the doctor.

Well, it was the same doctor. I'm okay with the doctor's nonstop. He was consistent. He was consistent. And that's right. I respect that he was consistent. I appreciate it. And I don't, I remember there was some form, some diagram, but the doctors put out.

But like, I know they're really worried about nerve damage. And there's certain points that are cuts on the face that they may not look bad, but there's like considerable serious nerve damage. I may make, you know, get permanent droopy eye. But I'm not. I can't reach. speak too much on that. So, but, yeah, I liked it. And I'm, I'm really happy the doctor did not let the fight go to the fifth round.

I know Corey looked kind of bumps. I think he thought that he was going to get, no, this is going to be a BS victories. But I think we all think this is a legit victory. I don't think anyone thinks this is a BS cut victory. I don't know. Oh, God, no. Okay. But, you know, I feel like, I feel like, if I ended, Corey had that impression, oh, people are going to, it's not a real victory.

But I, because. No, I just think that's who. Corey is as a human being and a fighter. He's just like, I wanted to see, even Saturday, he goes, I wanted to go out in the fifth round and I wanted to see how it was. He wanted to see what the scorecards are like, and he would have been, I don't know, I don't know how he would react. Oh, just great job of UFC production by, we got to hear Corey speak out loud and motivate him.

It wasn't the coaches, but I think, I think it was coming into the fifth round. It was Corey motivating himself. He was like, be smart, don't get hit of something big. is that right is that is that what corey was saying coming out into the fifth round i have no idea oh okay yeah but they were listening to the corners and they had it on him and it was just him talking to himself i thought that was like that was just fantastic just it's like man what great insight everyone on the ufc production team is really good at their job like i think like the last few years they've really set like bellator i have i don't get me started bkFC don't even get me started on their production quality

but like UFC does a great job. Yeah. Yeah, I'll shit on UFC Fighter Pay and all that stuff wherever, but we're not shit on UFC production, especially like production, the lighting, the sound, perfect. It's great job. Anything else, gentlemen? I think we're going to hit the music.

I think we're good. Corey San Hagan call out fighters, man. Just, you know, Alvarez said if he wants it, he can get it on Twitter. He did, and that's cool. It would have been a lot cool with Corey. Actually called that form. for that fight instead of like, I don't really care. Give me any of these five dudes.

Like, just, you don't have to. You don't have to talk shit. Like, you don't have to be that guy. Just have a guy. I'll tell you what, though. I'll tell you what. I'll bet money. You want to bet right now?

I'll make a bet with you, Jed. Corey Sanhagen, Marlon Ver is going to headline that Orlando fight night in December for sure. I'll bet money on that. Probably just because Marlon said he's down to clown. Like, what if Cheeto's just like, no, then that fight doesn't happen. And instead, Corey has to fight Marab and get tackled for 25. I don't think Mara Borg is going to fight.

I don't do Maraub's fighting in, uh, nah, I don't think Mara's fighting Corey Sannigan. It's just, it's, you don't have to talk shit. You don't have to be like, I'm a kill you. You just have to say the name you want. Be the author of your own fate. You are doing this as a professional fighter, man. Like, have a name. We've been saying it for years.

Just have the name because if you speak it into existence, it can come true. But you know what? Never happens? You know what never happens? We never get the fights that people call for. Ever. Ever. If he goes, I'm going to fight Cheeto Vera.

He's definitely going to fight Maraubin's dead. Happens every time. I don't know, man. Cheeto Vera is literally Caged side and you can just be like, I want to fight that dude and Cheetos down the clown. And then there we go. We're ready. It's booked. You don't have to even be good at it doing yourself.

Have somebody in your corner be like, hey, man, here's the name. We're good. DM me. My DMs are open, Corey. I will tell you to call out next time. All right. I mean, we can't top that. All right.

We are done. The UFC is also done for another week. And they're back October 1st. That's the card headlined by McKenzie Dern and John John. We got a week out next week. We got a week out. Big, big fight card. And then guess what?

And then guess what? Another week off. And then it's on to UFC 280. Well, but don't worry. I don't have a week off. I'm going to be in an airplane for 19 hours. Oh, yeah. But Bellator, Bellator is back next week.

Peter Quilly versus Benz & Henderson, Yon-Herrero. It's their Ireland card. Yeah. Y'all Romero versus Melvin Manhuff. Oh. That's happening, folks. That is, that fight is actually happening. next week. So there you go. At least there'll be some mixing of the martial arts for your viewing

pleasure. But go ahead. Get ready. Triple G versus Canello going down in a matter of moment. So enjoy it. Everybody for Jose, for Jed, for Casey, I am Mike Heck. Thank you for watching. Happy birthday, AK. Happy starting soon. Happy National Batman Day, more importantly. And happy beginning of Hispanic hair in a month, y'all. Happy the second. You can add order. A.K.'s third most important in that list of days. Fourth, more than fourth.

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