MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 91 Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Alex Perez, Bogdan Guskov's Knockout Wins

Episode Date: April 28, 2024

Alex Perez needed a win more than anybody on Saturday's UFC Vegas 91 card, and he delivered in a big way with a ferocious knockout of Matheus Nicolau in the main event. After his first win in nearly four years, is Perez back to where he was a legitimate title threat? Following Saturday's UFC Fight Night event at the APEX, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck, Jed Meshew, and Eric "New York Ric" Jackman react to Perez's victory and what it means in the 125 pound division. Additionally, the panel discusses Bogdan Guskov's big stoppage win over Ryan Spann in the co-main event, cage announcer Joe Martinez having to step away for a couple of fights and Charly Arnolt stepping in, Dominick Cruz's commentary, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow Eric Jackman: @NewYorkRic Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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91 just wrapped up and wrapped up in a big way. Alex Perez gets his first win in almost four years. He knocks out Mateus Nicolao in the second round before that. Bogd Gooskopf just continues his surge up the UFC's late heavyweight division finishing Ryan Span and we're here to talk about all that and much more and boy oh boy do I have a crew with me first let us say hello to the man just dancing away oh you didn't want to show off your sweet sweet dance moves Jed Bajou where'd the music go Mike where did the music go yeah well I'm not going to dance to no music I'm not a crazy person I'm just a regular dude who's here to tell you two and a half farts was too generous Mike it was far too generous you were trying to

get this up to three farts and look at us now Mike look at us now I thought we might have been I was going to say sniffing three and a half farts but maybe sniffing was the wrong word there but we also have and this is just an honor to privilege anytime he can join us on these post shows or pre shows or whenever mr. New York Rick joins us on this Saturday after UFC Vegas 91 how are we doing new york rick incredible couldn't be better blessed to be with you guys how are you wonderful uh the card is over so i guess jed will begin with what you how are you guys wonderful it's finally over it's finally over uh we're here to talk about it so jed uh you said two and a half farts a little too generous i try to bump you up to like three

three and a half i think you think the ending like saved it and we talk about it all the time how the main event needs to end in like a good way to kind of at least put cherry on top of it like even a tremendous card with 12 great finishes and things to talk about can be let down by a main event that just does not deliver luckily Alex Perez went out there and just brutally caoed Mateus Nicola this a nasty ass knockout and Bogdan Goosecop did Boggden Goosecop things he was kind of the MVP of the card in a lot of people's So you're saying this does not live up to the two and a half fart score you rendered yesterday on the preview show. Well, I think it lived up to exactly two and a half.

I think I nailed it. I think this was two and a half things. Now, granted, I didn't know that half of a fart was going to be us, you know, breaking new ground. A record, I guess record isn't being set. but the first female cage announcer in UFC history happened tonight. I didn't realize that that half was going to be that half of fart was going to come from Joe Martinez's vocal cords given out on him. But yeah, look, the main event ended fun. So that's cool.

That first round was tough, but we get a fun finish. The coming event was real light, heavy weighty. It was real weird. And then it was real Ryan Spaniy, and we know how that goes. And the rest of this card, like, you know, Greenie Silver got a good win, like a meaningful win. win, but I don't, I, I sat here and watched every second of that fight and I can't remember it because that's all of this was, you know, Eros Medich had a fun post-fight interview and a good knockout, but this was all replacement level stuff. And, uh, you know, it is where it is.

It wasn't a bad time. That's a lie. Probably wasn't a good time, but it is 10 p.m. on the eastern, uh, on the eastern seaboard. And so I got a lot of respect for that because now the, you know, I just had my veggies and now dessert can follow. BKFC is live right now and that's pretty fun. New York, Rick, will you remember this card after like Tuesday? No, but I can't say I remember most Apex cards like after Sunday. Like the moment it's over. I think Jed has mentioned the saving grace here is like,

it's relatively early on the East Coast, right? It's 10 p.m. right now. Get to enjoy BKFC. Wasn't the worst. wasn't the best. Not going to remember much of it, but we move on, as is the UFC's way these days. Yes, real quick, there's a tremendous comment that I just have to bring up here. Okay.

Where is it? The robbery that I was too was Nicolaus stealing Dustin Porre's walkout. Correct. You kind of, you kind of felt like I almost wanted to go to the betting window and just put a underdog bet on Alex Perez like right there. I did. You just can't do that. You did?

That was very... In fact, did. When Perez came out to freaking juicy, which is a banger, and then, like, one, Nicolao also just, like, looks boring, and he comes out to, he's a thief. Like, I'm not going to bet on a boring thief. At least if you're going to be a thief, be, like, cheeky about it. He just stole the man's walk out.

Like, you wouldn't see no other women come out to, you know, a bad reputation or where, like, you just, some people have their own thing, and you can't, that's gimmick infringement. And the man didn't even have the decency to jump a gilly. So no, I absolutely bet on Huxpress is the only bet I made. It was terrific. Bet like an idiot got paid off. Yes, flyweight unders, live on.

Heavyweight overs, as you said in our Slack channel, I mean, that heavyweight fight, it was no doubt it was going over. You could have bet the whole freaking house and community on it. And that certainly was a heavyweight fight if there ever was one. But let's talk about what happened in the main event. Jed, you very wisely put an underdog bet on Alex Perez. Hasn't won in a long time. If you go to his Tapology page, I'd like to do a 30 for 30 someday just on Alex Perez's

last four years on Tapology. So many gray marks. I mean, you literally have to scroll up a bunch before you get to like 2024 in his current fights. But he goes out there. He's very aggressive tonight. And I said on the preview show, if a finish was going to come early, he was going to come from Alex Perez.

And boy, did it. lands thunder shots. He was very, very close throughout round one, very, very close in the early stages of round two. And then he finally landed that piston. And Mattes Nicolaa just kind of dropped right to the fence. And that was just a nasty KO. First win in almost four years, Jed.

Your reaction to Alex Perez doing the damn thing tonight. I mean, it was great for him because like this is a dude who outside, like first win in four years, four years is so long to go winless in this sport. Like that F's with your mentality, you know. And it's not just without wins Because like you sort of mentioned It has been a disastrous four years for him

Right like when he has got to the cage he's lost But he has not gotten to the cage Way more often than he has at this point A lot of that is his own fault He missed weight injuries a lot of things that were to some extent in his control But some of that also wasn't in his control And just kind of everything has been working against him and, you know, even this wasn't optimal.

He steps in on short notice himself. He steps up and is like, hey, you know, that's risky. That is a risk to take on when you're already three losses in the hole. You know, we talked in the pre-fight Q&A in the preview show. Maybe he gets walking papers if he loses. He's still, you know, a top 15 ranked guy. But four in a row and having a history of issues with showing up on fight night, that can get you cut.

So he may have been fighting for his job and he goes out there and has, you know, his literal best performance in years and kind of reinvigorates himself. I haven't seen bonuses. I would be absolutely stunned if he is not one of the bonuses. Feels like it's just a guarantee that him and Eros Medich get bonuses tonight. And maybe they do like a quad bonus thing or whatever. But, you know, it's a great night at the office for him gets him back. You know, there was some talk of him pre-fight and stuff that gets him back in the title conversation. It's not entirely untrue just because of the lay of the land at flyway,

but realistically, no, he's still a couple of wins away. But this does keep him relevant and maybe lets him pick a better fight for his next venture, as opposed to just kind of being forced to fall on whatever grenade the UFC lobs at him. So great performance, great win, you know, happy for him. Yeah, spoiler alert for on to the next one tomorrow. He's fighting the, he's going to fight the Tetsu, retire, Josh Van winner. Like that's where he is going next, even after a win over Mateus Nicola. Like he was, I think he was fighting for his job all in all.

And this is what happens now. Like you beat Mateus Nicolaa, that's great. You've lost three in a row. You haven't won in almost four years. And I know some of the commentators were saying like, oh, maybe he got himself a title shot with this one. I think they're absolutely insane with Muhammad O'Khaef and the conversation we were having heading in. But New York, Rick, Alex Perez does it. I mean, he probably saved his job tonight.

And that was sensational. And one thing he said that I completely agree with, and, you know, it's different when he says it compared to like when Volcanovsky says it. Not a lot of people believed he was going to win this fight. And he went in there and did it. Yeah, against the game incredible opponent, he needed this desperately. I think we've all kind of recognized and touched on this. It was required. This was a must win for lack of a more artful term. And he did it in impressive fashion. I obviously disagree with the idea that he's jumping into any kind of type of. battle conversation just because of how rough and rocky the last couple of years have been. But I don't think he's far away.

I think he's one of those guys, especially with how competitive he looked against Mikhail, that he can be in conversations shortly. You know, you string together another one or two against a high level competition, which, you know, in this division, Nikolao is. And you're back in that conversation. So he's not, he's not super far away, but certainly not in any position to be fighting for a title next. or even one away.

He's going to have to string together a few. But he does seem like somebody who's capable of that, right? Like when he fights at his best, when he, when he is on, Alex Perez is a bad dude. Like, Alex Perez is dangerous. Like, we've seen him do some, some nasty things in there, especially like TKOs via leg kicks and things like that. Like, he can, when he's rolling, he's a tough out for a lot of people.

And again, I point back at the Makaya fight. Like, he was a tough out for Makaya. That was not like what I think people expected to happen. so yeah good for Perez like happy for him to be honest like with how this has recently gone he needed this desperately but I think he can be a player in this division it's just not going to be next like that would be ridiculous that would be silly but but I think with two more three more like he can be back in a conversation if he's able to string it together sure yeah he's got to be you know a Tyra type if he beats fan or vice versa and then after that get another

one against, I mean, I was going to say Mohia, but he just beat Machaia, but somebody like that, like somebody in that range of Roy Val or something like that and goes ahead and wins that, it's three in a row. He is back in the conversation to a fight Ali Pants or maybe Vinnie Siggs, who's going to fight for the title next week. So this is, this is probably, I'm just looking at the UFC's rankings and trying to parse out how they're going to go. Because right now, Nikolaos 5. and usually when a fighter loses, they just get jumped by the fighter who beat them.

But Perez is beneath Muhammad Mikhailov and Mino Kopp. Nikolao obviously has the win over Kopp. Manel Kopp might just move into the top of five after this, is I think what's going to end up happening. I think this is going to be one of the situations for Nikolao gets bumped. And Minel Kopp, you know, just stays winning, buddy. Just keep not fighting and you're slowly going to advance yourself into a title shot. Well, maybe maybe that's what Alex Perez does next.

He has to fight Minnell cop. But I don't know. We have to get Minel. I don't think you can help that fight. I think you got to not look that fight. That feels first. The chance of it getting to happen seems real low. Yeah.

There's some heat there. They tried doing it before. And yeah, it did not. Yeah, we saw that went. Manel said some very harsh things about Alex Perez. But good win for Alex Perez. Good to see him back in the wind. I'm bogged in goose off New York Rick.

This guy is just got it all. He's get her get got. He's fun as hell. He's one of those guys that could just make this division a better place. Ryan Span out there doing Ryan Span things. And then Goosecough started doing goose off things and gets a win and then gets on the mic. And I think Alan Joe Band said it best. He's got a little bit of Moycano in him.

He's just fun to listen to. I just want to hear him do post-fight interviews all the time. Like if he could just step in for, for Joaquin Buckley to do Joaquin Buckley's post-fight interviews, like, Wauke-Buckley would be the main event of UFC St. Louis on May 11th. But what did you think of

of Bogdn's performance with, by the way, uh, he obviously got a bonus. Yeah. Alex Perez obviously got a bonus. You guys want to guess the other two and then I'll have you weigh in on, on Bogdons. Oh, so they did a quad, not a fight at night. We did a quad.

Oroz for sure. That's three. And I, who else won? Denise Padilla maybe. No, Denise, Denise got it. Padilla should have absolutely got one though.

Yeah. It taps a dude to missed weight. I feel like it just looked awesome. Yeah, looked really good. They always favor the knockouts though is kind of like how this is true, how this is usually. Oh,

and yeah, Denise also, I'm not even upset with him. He's getting one. Yeah. Delept him and it was a really funny K.O. Like Austin Lane just kind of. Collapsed.

Quit. And like, I've never, I've never seen a guy quit and get knocked out at the same time. Because, you know, like we've seen the like Kimbo Dada, Dada just sort of falls over and is done. Austin Lane did it while also falling unconscious. It was very interesting way to, way to lose. And after Austin Lane had beat the hell out of him in the first round, I'm okay with that.

But, you know, Padilla deserves some love. All those knockouts are pretty nasty. They were good. But they were good. Let's talk about Bogdan, your. Rick, Rick. Would you think of his knockout,

his performance and his future in this division? I think what he needed, right? Like, he's trying to be one of the guys. He's definitely leaning into this Anthony Smith angle that has been created for him. And to his credit, like,

I think doing it well. I think there could be some real quick burnout on that. And I will admit, like I'm getting close to it. But I don't think it's because of him. I think it's more because of everybody else kind of pushing it. I think he's doing it well enough and subtly enough and when asked. But this division,

beyond the fact of like winning the fight beyond the fact that this was an impressive knockout against the guy who's who's been ranked for a while um he's got charisma it's exactly what you said he's got personality he's somebody you want to hear on the mic and this division desperately needs that it is it is an absolute waste like talent wise it's not great but even worse like personality and charisma charisma wise it is lacking desperately and he's a fun character that could be injected into this. So I'm all for the rise of Bogdan. Like, let's just, let's just keep pushing it. Give them, give him favorable matchups until we can get them into a position to be like, really a player in this division and see if he can sink or swim. But this division,

it needs somebody like him desperately. Jed, your thoughts on what this guy can do at 205. I mean, there's all this talk about, you know, him being Anthony Smith 2.0 to some degree they look alike and all of that. Your thoughts on where this guy can go at 205 pounds? I don't know. It'd be fun and interesting, right? Like, how old is he? Olds old boggy.

Is he 31? Noho Hank is 31, turns 32 in September. Okay. I mean, 31 is pretty young for light heavyweight, so there is that. He's never going to want a belt. But, like, I don't know. He can just have Nikita Krilov's career, like, right? Like, he just do that.

there's kind of be a top 10 fun action fighter who pretty clearly has some limitations but you know he's going to beat more people than he loses to be there can you know be interesting and be around but uh you know it's fun to call him an hathomouacano i'm not sure that that's true but maybe like i get where you're coming from at least with the thought right but i need a little bit more i do like me some noho hank though i think he he's just super fun to watch because he's going to die or kill and those are the best attributes to have

so I'd like heavy weight that can carry us some some ways but he would get absolutely slaughtered by people who aren't Ryan Spann Ryan Span just Ryan Spaned is what happened like that's my primary takeaway from this fight is like oh yeah that's Ryan Span

doing the thing like he was just absolutely clubbing Hank who was doing a smart thing and so it's like and I can't breathe anymore I have cardio for about six minutes, and that might even be too much to give him credit for. And then suddenly, like, as soon as his plan A does not lead to a finish,

Ryan Span's plan B is, I'm just going to punch and see what happens. That's not particularly good plan, frankly. And super not a good plan when your opponent's only real way to win is by brawling with you. So Ryan Span continues to be the biggest disappointment. at 205. He hooked me. He sold me when he said he was taking me seriously in training and that he was going to be real good now. And I don't buy it anymore. And that's why I didn't

buy it for this fight. And yeah, you know, I would like to see Noho Hank fight somebody who can fight back after the six minute mark has passed. Let me ask you this, Jed. Who has who has let you down more over the last three years? Ryan Spann or Jake Matthews? Ryan Span has. I mean, because since I believed in Ryan Span, he is not one. Jake Matthews has at least one, though not. I mean, the true answer is, and this is not just me, this is me and Chehine on McKinsey, Dern Island.

She will forever be the disappointment because at least Ryan Span has the decency when he falls apart and loses for us. He does it in such a way that I no longer believe in him. McKinsey Dern loses in a way where I'm like, if she could just like, it's there. You can see the, she can see it. She is right at the door. She just can't walk through it. And so I can't give up on the dream for McKinsey Dern. Ryan Span, the dream is dead.

I let the dream go. And, you know, it's just, it's sad to see it continue to happen, even though I'm no longer invested in the ride. What do you think about this, New York, Rick? Sometimes you believe in fighters. They turn us. then they are who they thought that they were, I guess. No, my, my heart is black. I don't believe in anybody or anything anymore.

So that doesn't apply to me. You don't believe in me. You son of a bitch. I mean, I'm sorry. I believe in you, Rick. Well, I appreciate that. It was one-sided. Even though you tried to kill UFC 300, I still believe in you.

Oh, yes. I think it's more of a, I think if it's more of a mentality of I believe in everybody and nobody, will you accept that? Like, more of like an all-encompassing kind of like, I believe in you as my, as I believe in everybody and nobody at the same time. So hopefully you can accept that. I don't, I don't accept that.

But yeah, he's breaking this heart. That's such a great answer. That's such a great answer. Oh, that's so good. That's so good. So favorable.

This is why he does so well in BTL. It's just such a, it turns as such a political game in the best possible way. So Goodwin for Bogdan. Kreeni Silva continues to do great things at 125. She's going to be a problem. Spirited performance from Ariani, De Silva, I believe, is the new name.

We talked about today's David Onama against Woodover Jonathan Pierce. That was a scrap. That was a scrap. That was a good fight. Pierce Don Onama was a scrap. I like that one a lot. I like their, you know, mini Max Holloway at the end there. Yeah.

Just going for it. Yeah, it was good stuff. Here's the thing to all fighters. Here we go. No, here's the thing about this fight because that fight is a perfect example of a thing that I keep. I've thought a lot this year and just over the last. the past few years. Look, if you are a David O'Nah or a JSP, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this. I didn't want to. I thought your friends, your family, your teammates might have shared this

information. You're not going to be a champion. You just ain't. It's not in the cards for you. You don't have the makeup. You can still be a professional fighter. That is a career you can choose to do. But if you're going to be one of those, be a grizzly. Any fighter can be Justin Gage. They might not be as successful, but you can walk into every fight and be like, I am going to get a car crash going and just see where the chips fall. And if you do, we will love you for it because that was fun as hell, Rick, you're right. The stand toe to toe and throw down, you could just do that from the jump. And certainly you could do it if things aren't going your way.

If you want to come out, I'm going to try and wrestle. And if that doesn't work, like I would like Ryan Span a lot more if when he gave up and started brawling. It was, we're going to settle this in the next 20 seconds. Not, I'm going to throw three punches and then heave for breath and then I will slowly get knocked out over the course of this round. Just know when you're at your limit. Be like, be like Korean zombie. Korean zombie Max Holloway. That's like one of my favorite retirement fights of all time despite being slightly sad. Because zombie just stared at Max at the like with the third round after the second round was like, I'm done. I got nothing.

left moonshot. We're going to solve this question in the next 10 seconds, whichever way it goes. Be that guy more. Be like JSP and David Onama. It's so much fun. I support this movement. I will say what happens sometimes is some people try that. And then the other fighter is so thrown off that they're not willing to engage.

And they kind of do this weird like defensive like point fighting weird thing where they're trying to stay away from it. But I support this fully. but I do, I will say that happens sometimes. Call those people cowards. Call them cowards and bucket them like chickens and draw them into anarchy. Like, just be that. It's just so much, like that was definitely one of the highlights of the evening until the last two fights.

And it was just like, oh, because these two dudes kind of just threw caution from the wind and said, F it. Let's try and get a bonus. Didn't work. It was fun. Yeah. Got a feel for Jonathan Pierce a little bit. This guy, what?

A year ago was supposed to fight Bryce Mitchell and, like, a top 10 fight and then tears his ACL getting ready and then he has to come back, fights Jordan, some Brito, gets ninja choked, and then fights David Onama who misses weight. And let's be honest, guys, like, I think this is something I can say fairly. David Onama probably costs, there's a really good chance. David Onama cost Jonathan Pierce an extra $50,000 by missing weight because that was the best fight of the card. Yeah, that was definitely the best fight of the card. And Onama by missing weight, disqualify the bonus.

So you think that that's why you think they would have gone just with the fight of the night versus doing quad bonuses. Because I don't know. Like all the bonuses made sense. If it was not made weight. If it not made weight, they might have done it. But yeah. I mean, they might have. I'm not sure.

But it did take that off the table completely. I'm still not sure. They might still have gone because the chaos were all cool. Like, you know, they were fun. Yeah. But again, when you're a beginning or like second tier contracted UFC fighter, and you miss weight, it means nothing. It literally means nothing

because 20% of your purse is shit but if you go in there and win the fight, then it doesn't even matter. It almost washes itself out. Conversely, it could actually be an advantage, right? We've seen this before. I mean, you know, Ryan Garcia is out here like flunting it in everybody's face.

Like, I didn't try to cut too hard. I wanted an advantage. But like, it's an advantage. If you didn't have to suffer those last pounds that your opponent did, it's an advantage and we're seeing it more and more where it seems like the weight misses are not, maybe the frequency might be the same,

but we're seeing these drastic weight misses where it seems like the person is just not trying to get down to wait. So not only can it not matter, it might even be an actual advantage in a lot of these scenarios where the fighter just didn't have to suffer. So, yeah, it's not great, honestly. Yeah, the last three years, the guys missing weight or we've won most of the fights.

I know this year's like there's been a little bit of a turn and even the broadcast is talking about it, but you got a little. lose a point if you miss weight. Like that shit, like, you got to make it hurt. What was it that nothing? What was it that Adasanya asked Dana in the cage for one time? He was like 90% or something. He was like

90% of the fun. I mean, it's not crazy. I don't hate it. Like, but I also, I just think like you should lose a point. You should lose a point. Like, let's impact the fight. Like, David O'Nob would have made weight if he knew his point heading in. I think he can't cancel.

I think the fighter who makes weight gets their paycheck. Friday who doesn't. Fights cancel. Don't put. I'm okay with that too, actually. That's like,

that's really the only way to like to adequately handle it. Because otherwise, yeah, people will just make the economic calculation of it's worth 20% to not lose. Because like shit, man, I like I know a hundred percent if I'm cutting this like, wait and I'm like,

man, this sucks. It's just miserable. And you're like in the depths of that, that just garbage. And you're like, okay, if I just stop now, I'll lose some money, but I get to stop now. I'll take that option.

I will make less weight if I stop now. It's just how it's going to be. So it's like, yeah, no, you don't get to fight and you don't make the money. And like that will be harsh and it will suck. But I know I'm done coddling fighters, like sign up for weights you can make and make them. At this level, that's what's going to happen, right? You see the rare occasion where like somebody like Wonderboy where there's too much on the line where he's like, Like, no, how about, how about I don't take the fight?

But those are rare. Those are infrequent. Like when you're, when you're JSP, you need this fight. You have to take this fight. So Onama's in real, no real danger. Yeah. All those. I would just say policy is fight doesn't happen if you can't make weight.

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Terms, conditions, restrictions, and limitations apply. Yeah, Eurisbadich, good win. Victor Henry, good win. great. Austin Hubbard, Michael Fieglack, might have been the best made fight on a prelim card ever, in terms of like styles blending.

Because that could have been like, like that could have been a 30, 30, 30 fight. It was so frigging close. They were so evenly matched. There was like, I mean, it was, I don't even know what's like what tangible sort of criteria.

Criteria. Criterer measurements to use. That's how close these three rounds were. It was really. compelling to watch. I almost scored around one of the main event of 1010 in the live blog. I was I was really close to doing it. Yeah.

Because there was there was a lot of that tonight. Yeah. Like there's just like we should score more 1010s. The rules really don't almost ever allow you to score 1010s, which is garbage as well. But like there's a lot of competitive stuff happening. Decision wins for Dantale Mays. Katlyn Suza, uh, Mahashata got a split decision win that a lot of people didn't really agree with Ivana Petrovich probably ends Liang Na's UFC run but yeah that's

she doesn't she just tells the judges go get a hot dog go get a beer there's no chance you're going to be needed for any of these fights be like be like Leon Nah fighters be like Liangna just have just go two rounds and then just be done she is the author of her of her own fate one way or the other that's who you should be I mean it has been one way that's for sure yep yeah and shout out to talk chris taco pedia getting it done yeah uh california m m m ms i know kacy's casey's kese's teammates had a big big solid day today yes chris bedia victor henry all getting some victories good stuff uh two things i want to touch on real quick before we go to the peeps and we're only going to take a couple of questions from the peeps because knuckle mania's on

and we got some shit to do i'm not going to lie to you so two big story lines new york rick i will begin with you We had some cage announcer madness going on because all of a sudden, Joe Martinez is doing this thing. And then Corrinez Silva and Ariani Dis Silva and their fight. And all of a sudden, John Gooden, I don't remember the exact terminology, said something about Joe Martinez being on the shakes or the, whatever the hell it was. And Charlie Arnold announces the winner of the fight. We're just thinking maybe took a bathroom break or something. And then the co-made event begins between Bogd and Gustav and Ryan Spann. they both come to the upgun, Charlie, I don't know, does the introductions for them as well.

Does a damn good job too. Like, especially to be thrust in that, like immediately. That was pretty damn good. I was impressed. She might actually be a better cage announcer than anything else she does. Like, that was super impressive. I was blown away by it. And then she announced the winner.

And then Joe Martinez comes back for the main event. Heroic return. Yeah. It was like, what the hell is going on? So what did you make of all of this? Because that was freaking crazy. I had the same thought as you, like commendable, really solid effort by Charlie. Like, I was, you know, that's a really tough position to be in no matter what you're doing,

cage announcing, social media, any, whatever your job is, if the person next to you falls out and you're, and you have to just be next man or woman up. That's a rough spot to be in. And I thought Charlie did a really solid, solid job in his stead. And so good for Charlie. Again, maybe this is like an opportunity for her to say, hey, I've got these chops, you know, put me in coach and give me another opportunity or just to even curry favor with the UFC for other opportunities.

Maybe it's not specifically that. And yeah, sending out some good vibes to Joe Martinez for whatever he was suffering through. It sounded like a lot of people kind of noted that his voice was struggling throughout the night and kind of were wondering what would happen there. So it sounds like it finally was too much. But shout out to him for coming back and doing the main event. But yeah, Charlie, I mean, stock up for her, I imagine, with the UFC production crew. Because she did a good job filling in.

Jed, your thoughts. I mean, that is, very clearly summed it up, except for he failed to mention, I don't remember what fight. What fight did she come in for? When did this first? Was it the Karine Silva, Arani-Renna. She came into announce the cards, yeah. Yeah. Which means she came in and with.

Five minutes of prep had to be ready to go to pronounce Bogdan Sarovitch Guskov, which is not easy. Like, it's just, that's just not a lot of people would butcher that. I might butcher it right then. You know, she, she, she didn't have an easy run of it and did well. I honestly, I kind of wish they had just left her. It was a little odd to have Joe Martinez come back because it's just a weird situation. I like Joseph Martinez. I think that he should honestly plant buffer, as I don't care for buffer much.

But I can't deal with him asking Las Vegas if it's ready. Las Vegas cannot make noise because there are four people in an empty gymnasium. And so him coming back for the main event just to do that every time it just hurts me in my soul. Whereas I'm pretty sure she would not have been like Las Vegas, make some noise if you're ready. but she did a great job and that should tell you everything you need to know about the card frankly when the biggest story coming out of it

is that because I think that is the biggest story coming out of this evening I kind of wanted her to do it just so I could hear what she would say because I bet she's thought about this before I think all of us at one point have thought about it what would her thing

honestly I swear to you I have never thought about that interesting I mean I've done it before so I thought of one on the spot What was yours? Get out of your seats and on your feet because, and I just yell, here we go. Like in a just a loud, obnoxious thing. But the whole thing, it was just like a spot.

I was like, oh, shit, I need to like come up with something cool. And like all the cool things are taken. So that's what I came up with like two seconds before. Correct me if I'm wrong. But is that not part of my theme song as well? I'm pretty sure that's in my theme song. Oh, yeah. I think I've, I think I've now inherited that.

That's, yeah, it's not yours. Yeah, so I think that's what I end up going. It's definitely an aerial. Maybe it's in aerials. Maybe I'm thinking about it's. Definitely an Ariel's intro. I don't know if it's in Ariel's. Okay, there you go. So Ariel gets the, the spiritual. It could be in yours too. That's, it's a cliche thing that I've come up with for the MMA space. The other thing that people have been asked me about, I got about four or five DMs about this before we came on. And it was a big talking point on Twitter. Sue Mousal talk about it. Jed Mishu, if you could give a letter grade. to Dominic Cruz's performance tonight.

What would you give it and why? It's an F because it's always an F. We answer this in the Pre-Fi Q&A. I don't care for Dominant Cruz's commentary. There are several people who like it. There are several people on our staff. Well, maybe not several. There's at least one individual on our staff

who is a big supporter of Dominic Cruz on commentary. That's fine. This is a purely subjective opinion. He is the last person alive that I would. would want to do commentary other than, other than the former Bellator team of Josh Thompson and Big John McCarthy. I want them even less than him somehow, but it's awful.

He's getting worse, in my opinion, and I don't enjoy him. I actually thought Dana Cormey did better tonight. He has been a little bit better lately, though I do my rule applies. And there's not just an M.A rule. I think color commentators across all sports should have a five-year maximum,

and probably less than that. But like, remember, we used to love Tony Romo in the booth, too. And now Tony Romo is just kind of pedantic and sucky. It's just, you're not, like, you just turn into a trope of yourself. And Dominic Cruz turning into a trope of himself when his original version was bad, is deeply unenjoyable for me. The one that really drove me up a wall and made me actually mute it today, which happens often. What was he saying?

Oh, I forget what fight were, they mentioned the phrase imposter syndrome. And Dominic Cruz has apparently never heard of imposter syndrome, which is, you know, fine. But he's like, what's imposter syndrome? And they explain it's like, yeah, it's just not feeling like you're good enough to be where you belong. And he's like, back in my day, they called that a lack of confidence. We just, we got two many names for things these days. You got to stop naming all this stuff. just get a little more confident,

rub some dirt on it. Like he's a thousand years old. Just an old man yelling at the clouds about medical technology. Like, dude, Jess, you don't have to. You just be fine with it. So F minus, whatever the worst F is, get him off off my earballs.

Every time he's in the booth, that'd be preferable. But have you enjoyed it, cool, I guess. And then he's, he actually said into a live microphone, So Marnik Man won that third round, huh? DC and DC's like, no, what the hell? It was the Martin Man fight. That's right.

God, it was so bad. Those both happened within like 45 seconds in the third round, on the Marnik Man fight. It was tough, man. And then, like, you watched the Victor Henry fight, and you watched the Karine Silva-A-Silva fight. And he's great. Like, he's really good in those spots because he's talking about transitions,

like what this fighter needs to do, what this fighter needs to do, like kind of what Rogan used to do. But then he starts, like, giving the opinion. and being the things that you sort of described, Jed. And it just, and him, his lack of knowledge of the rules and the criteria for scoring. And just the rules of M.A. in general, New York, drive me crazy. It's four, we've been doing this for four fucking years now. Like, read a fucking book.

Do something. Jesus Christ, man. I will admit, he's certainly been diminished in my eyes. Like, I think he started pretty decently because he leaned more into the analysis. and being able to like break down technique and things like that. And now it's kind of straight from that. But I also will admit I'm not as fired up about it as you guys. Like I kind of,

I kind of just see them all at a similar level these days. There's not really like any of that stands so far above the rest. And I'm like, yeah, I have to have that. So I just kind of deal with it. It is what it is. He just wants to show that he's on says something that drives me up the wall. He is so clearly supposed to be a desk analyst. Like that is the thing he can do.

and it just makes so... But they've put him in a booth and they keep doing it and I honestly don't know why. Because you're right. Every once in a while he has like a germane piece of breaking stuff down. My original issues with him

were entirely based around if you don't fight the way he fights, you're fighting wrong. And he is so clear when he talks about like, oh, they're not doing what I do so they're stupid and this is bad. Which is like pretty obviously not an accurate way to represent things.

But he clearly like, he's a man's a champion. Like he's decorated fighter. He knows what he's talking about. And the times he does that, that's okay. Like occasionally he and DC will talk about some like bit of wrestling stuff. That's great. But there's so few and far between.

Put the man on a desk. Like let Anthony Smith serve as a calm tale. Let's see how he does. Like they just have so many people. Yeah, they just have so many people who already do the desk analysts. Like let them get a shot in the booth and let's keep cycling them out. Like there's no reason for D.C. and Cruz and Felder to just own the commentary roles when there's plenty of other opportunity

for people who can talk to get a chance in there. There you go. We talked about it. We're going to take, if you guys got like the most compelling things on your mind to talk about when it comes to the CFC card, like bring it to the table now. This is like last call at the bar.

There's a man walking out of BKFC and a Michael Myers mask. So yeah, that's fairly compelling. Real quick. Our old friend of Killers Jr. stepping in calling Rick the B side of this conversation. But I guess this would be a Jed question. We try to talk, I think we talked about this in the preview show.

Like, how do you like even put a fart score on BKFC? And I don't think you really can. But you don't. If you want to try, let's reiterate for those who missed it. The BKFC definitionally transcends the fart system. The fart system is really just designed for the apex and for trying to codify or, or contextualize how bad this dribble is. BKFC is lovely.

And like if you want to do like the regular BKFC events, then we could probably get farts involved in there. But knuckle manias, they're, they're transcendent. They get, I mean, this knuckle, this BKFC, Mushulen Star. If I was in, where is it? It's in, it's in L.A. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. If I was in anywhere near L.A., I would a thousand percent be attending knucklemania. This is a Muschuland Star for sure. So it doesn't get. Farts. It gets a Mushuland star and it gets one. I just want to know how I'm the B-side. Like, why am I the B-side?

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Visit darktrace.com forward slash defenders for more information. I could get a coffee tomorrow. People think I really use the money to get dunked to do. They think it goes directly to your like Starbucks card and reload day. Yeah. Oh, sorry.

Duncan, right? Duncan, not Starbucks. Oh, yeah. We're a Duncan household here. Yeah. This BKFC ring is full of ads. Like they are, they are running out of real estate to put sponsorships on in the BKFC.

This is looking pretty similar. They'll be there soon. Oh, yeah, dude. It's going to be insane. Like the walkout ramp, like everything or the walk, the aisle all, there'll be ads everywhere. I guess we'll end here. Connor McGregor teasing a big announcement during Knucklemania.

Who wants to take a guess? Anybody have an idea? Any thoughts? Predictions? I mean, yes, but I don't know if we're supposed to say it. I don't know.

This to me feels more like him kind of like doing like a sponsorship, proper 12-y, you know, forged out kind of thing. but I don't know what it was. Yeah. So thing already sponsors BKFC. Isn't proper 12 already a partner with them?

I think it's just like event to event. You know, they kind of like do it, but maybe there's like a larger. So forged Irish stout is because it's on the canvas right now. Like I'm looking at the ad right now. Yeah. Feldman at the presser was like shout out to like proper 12 and stuff.

And I honestly, I don't know if that if forged Irish stout and proper 12 exists. under the same like I know they're both McGregor things but I don't know if they are the same corporate entity or separate corporate entities I would imagine they're the same they run through the same business like it's it's all part of his his yeah liquor it all comes under his thing so I like they're already there so I it just seems almost a certainty that this that what they are announcing is an increase of the sponsorship thing right like a knucklemania five presented by thing or whatever yeah here's the proper 12 dock out of the night or fight of the

night or yeah it's at least smart enough in my opinion to like at least make you think something about mike perry maybe right because the last time we saw connor involved in this is like he was in the ring with mike perry so you could do worse than like sponsoring an event even if it is that that mike perry is related to because maybe it gets some kind of like juices flowing and people thinking it's beyond that so good marketing and branding for them i i i don't know what ultimately i think the bonuses actually sounds like a good thought mike just like and tonight we're giving out you know 50 000 proper 12 proper performance bonus of the you know of the evenings or whatever um who had the most stout tonight yes you felt then you're you're you're welcome inside that

ring how does how does my anytime you want to call me up i got ideas for days baby we can we can get cooking i feel like you long mike malott's got to start putting a message out to Connor and be like, hey, you know, it's there. It's right there for you. Come, welcome. Come, come into the tent with me. All right. We'll take, we're going to go rapid fire here. Just suppose real quick, one syllable, because I don't think you need more than this. Corrinea Silva wins. She's four and no in the UFC. How many fights away from a title is she? I will say four. Three or three. I'll say three. Maybe four.

Because you got to do the thing. You got to do the thing. And she's not willing to do the thing but she is i'm not saying she like that's necessarily her but at some point you have to have a name in mind and i feel like she's i'm saying for the right one yeah it's probably somewhere along there there's just so many contenders there that like are doing more with the with the opportunity that it's going to take a while and let me just say this for all of the people out there that are saying let's just do just to do the thing because they have the same last name you keep korena sylva away from natty ice because natty ice is going to thump her up proper her. So don't do it. Don't do that. Don't do that. Natty Ice. Let's get Natty Ice in there with the top

five opponent. Let's push her to the moon right now because she, the number for her is deathly less. She gets like a good name next and has a great performance. She's one win away. So what if what if Kriani Silva changes her name legally to Natalia Silva? And then she kind of games the system to sneak into a title shot sooner. She should change her name to Natalia. I'd be incredible. My name is now Natty Ice Silva. Like I'm the true Natty Ice. I love it.

All right. A couple of super chats. Terran. If you had a burger or sandwich named after you, what would be on it? This is a great question. That is a good question. Mine is always very, I like simple, right? When it comes to sandwiches, when it comes to bowls, when it comes to wraps, when it

comes to things like that, my key is simplicity. Because what happens inevitably is somebody goes, I want 10 different things. and then they turn into this stew, they turn it into this mishmash of shit that nobody wants to eat. So mine would probably be just a simple patty, right? Like a real nice, like Angus beef patty. Your choice of cheese, like typically,

maybe for me it's going to be, provolone could be a nice little mix there to make it a little something different. Pepper Jack's always good. Halipinos, mushrooms, minimal sauce. Maybe no sauce, but if we're going to do sauce, we're going to keep it something like pretty light

and not go overboard. Definitely not ketchup and probably not barbecue either, but we'll do something nice there. And that's it. Keep it simple. Like my sandwich, my burger is going to be simple. I'm very much with you on the burger.

I wouldn't do the mushrooms. I'd do bacon for sure. Sure. Popular. Lettison tomato on there. The sauce would be sort of a spicy variety. Yes. I think the burger would be seasoned in like a Southwest seasoning,

almost like a taco. co-seasoning. So let's just really do this up with a little bit of spice. Like not burn your fucking face off, but like just enough of a kick to make you just feel like this is a different type of thing. And each bite just feels more magical than the next. But pepper jack is absolutely the right call. Maybe just a homemade, mild hot sauce that you just throw in there. Not too much, just a little. So you get a little bit of a drip during every single bite. Something like that is where I would go. Jed, have you, have you thought about what the Jedd Michoud would look like? I think if the Jedmishu would be some sort of a sandwich, but burgers just easier to build on.

You guys are wrong. The wonderful Anthony Bourdain said it best. The real only use for American cheese is that it is the perfect burger cheese. It is a cheese just designed to sit atop a burger. The rest of the time, American cheese is just garbage. But it is a perfect cheese for burger. So it's an American cheese burger. crispy bacon.

I'm talking burnt black bacon grilled onions and then grilled onions is critical move and then in lieu of a sauce I've become a really big fan of doing the fried egg on the burger.

I like that. You get a little running fried egg. It works like a sauce but it brings a little something different. Okay, but can we all agree that the maniacs who are like put French fries and 10 different like obscure things

that just don't need to be on it is like the dumbest possible thing. These like foodie blocks or Instagrams and TikToks I'm seeing of people piling shit on top of it to make it not taste like anything anymore is like the dumbest possible trend. I don't even usually like a double burger just because it's too tall. It's like a bite needs to be a bite. And like for a lot of places a double cheeseburger kind of doesn't work in that regard. You know, a place like in and out or whatever it's. fine, but yeah, uh, that, that would be the case. If, if I was going a burger, that's like,

that's kind of my ideal cheeseburger, which I also think is the perfect meal. I think there's very few things better than a cheeseburger in the whole wide world. Like a really good cheeseburger. Yeah. It's, I mean, it depends on the time of night. That, that, that's three a M. Cheeseburger, that hits. That's different. That's a, that's a money move. I'm not going to lie. I had, I had some in and out after the UFC 300 watch. party was just incredible. Like it was just incredible. It just needed to happen after talking for seven and a half hours and then doing a

post-fight show till 5 a.m. Just walk right across the street. Boom. Get it all taken care of. Killis says for your McDonald's coffee. That's why you're the B-side. Rick, you're just, he didn't want to finish that. He didn't want to finish that. Of course he didn't. He's a coward. It could be anything.

Akila's Jr. It's an absolute coward. Rick, you're just the best. I am the best. Rick, you're just the best. Yes. Fill in the blank. Yes, you are his, yes, you are the best.

Which BKFC fight are we looking most forward to? I think it's pretty obvious. Honestly, it's not. The main is down. I got sold. Lorenzo Hunt and McTherrilleril of the presser sold me, man. I can't, I haven't stopped thinking about just the, that's the funniest thing I've seen all month.

Lorenzo Hunt is must watch press, like, I don't know, like the fights are good. Like Lorenzo Hunt is very much the guy that you described earlier in terms of like, I'm just going to go out there and slug with people. Like he does that. Like when he, when he's got nothing left, he's trying to kill somebody before he gets got. But press conference wise, like just talking on the mic wise, Lorenzo Hunt might be the best in the business. Like he's, he's a master. He's kind of like a hidden gem.

He should be so much more famous than he is. Agreed. I am interviewing him next week if he wins tonight. Like we're going to do something. Even if we do a live show and like people can come in. and like you just ask him questions. I think that would be the best Q&A of all time. You know what's,

you know what I really love about him? What's so great about him? Like certainly he's like a little bit outlandish and over the top. Like he's doing like a character, certainly like the Mink code and just talking about, you know, what he's saying. But he's also like he's sharp and he's got a mind for the business.

It's not just like the like bluster. It's not just the performative stuff. He, they showed the scene before the press conference started where he's sitting in Mick Terrell's spot. and being like, I'm on the A side. I'm not moving. And they're trying to convince him and he's sitting there and he's me mugging.

And at a certain point, he gets up because he has to get up. Because Dave Feldman's like, we're not going to pay you. And the press conference has to start. And he has enough sense to like let the show go on. But for that moment, he's commanding it. And then he relents and goes and does it. I'm a huge Lorenzo Hunt fan. Like this dude is just smashing it every time he's on my screen.

It was just so. Shout out to him. Every part of it was good. The fit, the, the fur vest. Because it's not a coat. He's wearing like a hoodie. Which is like a fur vest with the belt. But the hoodie's also like drawn up around his neck.

So it's just like it's encompassing his face. And he's screaming about he's the ace. I'm not the B side. I've got I've got more fights than everybody up here combined. He called them Bums. I don't know why I'm not the face. He said next to me is Bums who have like two BKFC. fights he's just calling them bums it was great i don't know why you sat me over here with the bums i have

more fights than everyone here combined mike parry shouldn't be the face of this and then mc turel god love him i don't know if he just didn't know what was happening he brings he brings the the measuring tape measure out for a yeah tape measure out for a gimmick i don't think he's six foot and immediately lorenzo hans like if you want to measure something That's just an unbelievable bit. So good. To his credit, Mike Perry also had some great comedic timing on that to be like, Mike Perry jumped in brilliantly right there.

And then Lorenzo Hunt just being like, look, you got to survive. Like, y'all don't know where I'm from. And you got to be able to see these things. And that man is covered in not neo-Nazi tattoos. And Mick Tiro just looks, I have a star of David tattooed on my stomach. And he stands up and shows him. It's the best. That press conference is unbelievably fun.

You're right. That's the fight. I'm watching the co-main event now. That's the fight. You're right. You got it. You're right. They stole me.

It's like one of the very few times that a press conference has ever like shifted my focus towards one. And they absolutely did. I got to watch that fight. You got me. You're right. We were talking on a heck of a morning yesterday about like, going to UFC events live and I'm kind of with Ariel on this like I think every fan needs to go once

and then you're just like okay I've got it BKFC is the NHL of combat sports where it is so much better going live than it is watching it on TV do you think a lot of that has to do with the ring because I feel like the ring matters a significant amount the ring matters the environment matters they're in the right buildings like they're they're doing it perfectly like they're putting the right they're in the right size buildings with the right amount of people like they're not going to you know they're not going to TD garden to do BKFC they're going to like the Lowell Memorial Auditorium that has like 4,000 people instead of 15,000 seats and it's just like the perfect bunch of freaking maniacs going to these cards and then like the celebs are

there you never know who's going to show up and then everyone is just it's just it's a certain Like the whole thing is a circus, but in like the best possible way, I'm telling you, especially like these bigger events, you've got to go. If you're a fan, you have to go. Super underrated. Yeah. Super underrated. Your point about not going to venues that are too big. When you start, when you start going to these venues because you want the prestige of like, we did this arena and it's, it's three quarters empty.

You're adult. You're a bad promoter. You're adult. seriously. And to your point, BKFC being like, these are the perfect venues for our scale. And we're going to have it feel like a zoo in here and a madhouse is the absolute perfect thing that you need to be doing. And too many promoters don't take that cue. Shout out to Feldman and BKFC because that's the way to do it. Yep. And now we're going to do it. Apropos of nothing. Shout out to Game Bread. You know, they're out there just promoting.

They need to go reasonable venues for themselves doing great. I've said this a million times they need to go to like the ECW arena Like those are the place they need to go Like 1,200 people Like just that's it Like the raveness of the ravenous And just slowly grow

Oh Alex Brooker Oreta Oh something Alex Booker in the comment says Could have gone tonight But I'd only be going for Perry Missed opportunity Oh dude you blew it

You fucking blew it Is this for sure I'm a Shulin Star thing man Dude Dude I just went on Twitter and scrolled for five seconds, there's already like 19 fights in the crowd. Like, there's fights in the crowd in like every other video that I'm scrolling through. Like, that's the shit that you're missing.

You never know, like the one I covered the Page Van Zant, Raced a lot, Rachel Oostovich card. That was a lot of Mania too, right? That was, that was just a regular BCC. It was incredible. Like, it was a really fun card. And there's some really good fights on. It's really good story on.

It's a press conference. Unreal. They had like influencers who were like, fighting each other and talking shit, the press conference, like all of it was so great. But Alex, yeah, you totally screwed up, man. Honestly, it's not too late. Isn't this card ending in like six hours from now? Just go.

I mean, I have to know what, we have to go. I would love to know why you did, like, ultimately chose not to go. And if your reason is, eh, I'd only be going for Mike Perry, then that's a terrible reason. But if it's only, if you're only going for Mike Perry, you should watch the presser because you'd be going for Lorenzo on, dude. If it's like, if it's like, oh, my, my fiance was going to leave me if I went to the card, like, that's a different reason. No, it's still, it's still in play for me at that point. I think you still have some decisions to me. The next time BKFC is anywhere near me geographically, I am 100% going.

Yeah, we should both go, Jed. Like, we should go. I mean, yes, the next time one's around. I'm up that, like, all the way in. After you went that first time and we're talking about it, I was like, man, it just seems unbelievable. And that was in Tampa, and that's one we could both go to very easily. They need to go back to the Tampa Fairgrounds is where Paige Van Zant fought at the freaking Tampa Fairgrounds. She didn't fight in the big arena.

She didn't fight in the football stadium. She fought at the Fairgrounds. And it was electric in the fairgrounds. It was the coolest thing ever. Unbelievable. All right. We got to go. Let's enjoy the electricity of Knucklemania for together, ladies and gentlemen.

enjoy the card follow along on m a fighting.com for Rick for Jed I am i am micak we'll be back talking more UFC tomorrow on onto the next one myself and AK and we'll be getting ready for another UFC pay-per-view it's happening guys UFC 301 can Vinnie Siggs become the flyweight champion of the world or we're no Alexander I'm picking him I've decided I'm picking him I'm very close after watching it what are you a lot of fights Christ almighty Because he's no

He's been Just think about him as Vincenzo Orseg And you'll pick him too You're still hung up on him being Steve He's not Steve We did a rebrand This new brand Can't be defeated

If he was Lorenzo Hunt I'd buy it He's not Lorenzo Hunt So unfortunately No he's Vincenzo Erseg No If Lorenzo Hunt was managing him I'd buy it

Oh my God That's a terrific idea Picking up people to manage. Yeah. But like just as we leave everyone, start thinking about Lorenzo Hunt fighter manager. I love it. Lorenzo Hunt and fight circus. Let's connect those two.

I mean, maybe that's Connor's announcement. He got the two entities together and they're going to do a super event. I will go. Wherever it is, put it on the fucking moon. I'll be there. Is there a chance this McGregor announcement is, actually something. Because for some reason, I'm like, maybe it's something. It's definitely just a...

It feels like a sponsorship thing. I think it's like a... I honestly think Mike nailed it with a... It's the post-fight proper bonus or whatever. Yeah. Well, we'll find out what that is. Look at Lerenzohon. Rocking and OnlyFans tank top and getting interviewed before the fight. As Jed said, I hope you enjoyed your leafy greens.

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