MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 96 Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Caio Borralho's Gritty Win Over Jared Cannonier
Episode Date: August 25, 2024Caio Borralho chose to stand with Jared Cannonier for the entirety of their five-round main event of UFC Vegas 96, and it was enough to get the job done in a wild middleweight battle. After the bigges...t win of his career, how close is Borralho now to a title shot? Following Saturday's Fight Night event, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Eric Jackman react to the latest APEX fight card, Borralho's victory, the great battle between "The Natural" and Cannonier, and discuss where Borralho could go next. Additionally, topics include Tabatha Ricci's co-main event win over Angela Hill, Mairon Santos and Ryan Loder earning contracts after winning The Ultimate Fighter, Michael Morales and Gerald Meerschaert's impressive finishes, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Eric Jackman: @NewYorkRic Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Yeah, everybody.
132 a.m. Eastern Time on Sunday morning, UFC Vegas 96, just wrapped up.
And those are the victory horns, and they sound for Kyle Bahalio.
He gets it done.
What a main event.
Outlast Jared Canaaner lands a big knockdown in round five.
We thought that was going to be the big difference.
But in the end,
It wouldn't have mattered anyways because to the judges,
a four rounds to Kyle Baha'ali, who's not won 16 consecutive fights.
And none bigger than this one, as he's probably going to be a top five or six UFC middleweight
when the new rankings come out.
And we're here to talk about that.
And everything that happened tonight at the world's most famous apex,
I am Mike Hacken joining me.
And it's just hitting me in the fields because I think this is the last time you will see him
on this channel as part of the MA fighting family, the one the only.
New York Rick is here.
Full circle, my man.
How are we doing?
Sentimental, a little bittersweet, but a good night of fights.
Like, they gave me a good one to go out on.
So I'm feeling good about it.
Main event was great.
Main card was great.
There was some stuff on the prelims that really got my energy up.
And yeah, I'm happy to be here.
I'm happy to be here with the two of you guys.
as we have been many nights before.
So let's talk some fights.
Yes, let's talk about the main event.
Let's just get right into it.
Kyle Bajalio gets it done.
Beats Jared Candidere unanimous decision.
What a freaking fight, man.
Like, we'll just start there.
This fight over-delivered.
Great fight.
Like, if you told me that we were going to get five rounds of striking,
I don't know if I would have thought it was like good.
Like I would have expected maybe it was a little like
Grittier a little more clinching maybe
And if you told me it played out on the feet like this
I'm not sure I would have expected this exact
Way that this this fight played out but man like
Tayo showed that he can stand for five rounds with with a great striker in the middleweight division
And it was they were perfect for each other like I had it to two to going into the fifth
I don't know how you had it, Mike, but I had a 2-2 going to the fifth.
I had Kyle 1-3 and Jared 2-4.
And so it was pivotal in that final round.
I think four is probably the closest of those.
And it could have, it seems like the judges, I haven't seen the exact scoring yet,
but I would assume the judges had him winning the fourth as well,
which is how they arrived at potentially their scorecards.
But like gritty, gritty fight.
and Kyle looked good, man.
Like, I, he didn't shoot.
They said he shot once.
It didn't really look like a shot.
It looked more like just mixing up, like trying to give him a different look.
And he beat Jared Cannonier on the feet.
And that last one, too, man, that put Jared Cannonier like out, out.
And he probably woke up on the ground because if you watch that slow motion,
dude was snoring on the way to the floor.
And then somehow recovered.
So credit to him.
Shout out to him.
But yeah, that was that was.
that was a really impressive performance by Kyle, but great fight. I, I, I loved that fight.
Outstanding. Looking at the cards as we speak, Sal Diamada, Romo, Rama McCarthy scored it exactly the same.
Round one for Bahalio, round two for Canaaner, three, four, five for Bahalio.
Chris Lee had the same card, you and I both did where it was two, two heading into round five.
So, but round four was, I mean, super close, like super close. Just a wild.
fight, man. Yeah, great fight. This is all you'd want from the main event and especially
on a card where, you know, let's be real about it. Like expectations were pretty low. The card
delivered, the main card definitely delivered. And that main event delivered. So yeah, you can't ask
for more there. I'm sure you're going to have a dissenting opinion about this New York, Rick. And that's
why I'm glad you're here on this final post fight show because Kyle Bajalio did everything right,
Everything was great.
The performance was outstanding.
I even appreciated his game plan because he must have listened to the preview show, read the predictions, where we both said,
Kai doesn't care about exciting fights.
He just goes out there and looks for the W.
And even if it isn't the most pleasant viewing experience, he don't care.
It's just all about getting the wins.
And that was not his mentality tonight.
It was just going out there and prove to everybody that he can just stay on his feet and beat a guy who,
many believed was just the better overall striker,
and that's exactly what he did.
Then he gets the microphone,
and he's saying good things,
and everything's going well.
And then Michael Visbing does the thing where he says,
hey, you believe you're going to be a top five guy,
who do you want next?
And who does he call out?
Not Israel to Sanya,
not Brendan Emovoff,
not Sean Strickland, not Robert Woodhiker.
He calls out Trickus Duplice.
And he made this call out two fights before,
and it made no sense.
And then he made it again.
And it still doesn't make any sense, New York, Rick.
It still doesn't make any sense.
Izzy was right there.
That would have made a lot of sense.
And people would have been like, oh, this could happen.
He has zero chance of fighting DDP right now.
Zero.
I love it.
I love it.
And the best part about it is him telling DDP that he has to come to him.
He's like, stop running from me.
You come to me.
This is my time.
Um, yeah, I don't, I don't think he's going to get it.
I don't think he's going to get it.
Certainly.
Okay, he's not going to get it.
I don't think he's going to get it.
He is not going to get that fight, obviously.
Um, but I don't mind it.
Look, one day, it seems pretty likely that he might be fighting for a title.
And if DDP is champion, now they've got this like clip to use in their packages to be like,
hey, this was the moment where he had him on his, in his radar and they'll have the two callouts stacked.
then you'll have something there.
Because after this performance, I'm fairly confident, like, yeah, this dude's going to be fighting for a title at some point.
And so it'll be for that.
But he is not getting DDP next.
DDP's got other business to attend to, certainly.
Unless it's like some funky, like weird, like short notice situation or he has to step in or something.
He's a backup or some kind of weird permutation.
It won't be on the basis of that call out.
it won't be on the basis of him being next in line.
But let's just say this.
He's not far.
He's not far away from that.
Like it's one more.
It's one more.
And then he's right there.
So good performance.
You know, we've,
I'm a broken record on this.
I don't care about like I don't feel like you have to nail the call out.
I feel like,
you know,
you just go for impact here.
But to the point that you have made before,
like maybe a little bit wasted, right?
There are some names that would have been available like in Israel-A-Sanya
where at least you get people thinking about it and putting your name in the hat.
Whereas with DDP, like it's just not happening.
But he will end up fighting one of those guys anyway.
That is what will happen.
He will fight in Imavov.
He will fight an Israel-A-Sahya.
Probably not Israel-A-Sania, but he will fight somebody in that ranking because he has earned a spot.
That is certainly clear.
Like this performance, he earned that spot to fight a guy like that.
that.
Drigus Duplice was watching the card tonight,
New York, Rick.
And he did tweet.
He did tweet,
but nothing to do with Kyle Bahalio.
And also like hours earlier,
he might not have even been watching by that point.
He's like,
I've seen everything I need to see.
Excuse me,
I'm done.
We have bonuses, gentlemen.
We have bonuses.
Okay, this is going to be fascinating
because Casey and I were talking about this before the show,
and I'm fascinated to see how this plays out.
All right.
Take your guess.
I mean, certainly I think
Gerald Mearshardt has to be, right?
Like, that's like a, that's like the rock solid, like, number one that I think had to be.
This is where it gets interesting because it's like,
you would think like now it's going to be Michael Morales because it's main card,
but then I would hope it's, it's Kong.
And by the way, it's like, I think Kong Tang or like,
no sorry Wang Tongue right
Wong Wang or Wang Kong
Wang Kong but isn't it tongue like I feel like
Brendan Fitzgerl was saying it with a T
like in the in the pronunciation I think he was saying like Wang Tong
as opposed to Wang Kong I don't know
but that woman deserves a bonus I'm hoping it's her
but I'm thinking maybe Casey's right
and main card people get the rub and it might be Michael Morales
for performance so you tell me which one on those
it was Michael Morales because Michael Barales didn't take a shit on the UFC
and how they put cards together so
Michael Marales
okay but also well deserved
like that was that was a sick performance
and then this is tough because like I feel like the main or co-main
could have been fight of the night but I'm gonna go Maine
just because I feel like the stakes were higher
yep it sure was it sure was
so there they deserve Morales beer shart
Cannon Air Bahalio
gets the bonuses. So there you have it. So Bahalio gets the biggest win of his career. Called for a fight he's
not going to get, but it doesn't matter because he could dry his tears with $100 bills because he just
got a extra $50,000 for the fight of the night. Jared can't hear drops his second straight. But
what a scrap, man. What a great scrap. And like you said, the co-main event, what a great
scrap as well. Tabitha Ritchie gets it done. I'm curious what your card was for that one.
Did the judges get it right in your eyes?
It was very close fight.
It was fun as hell.
Did they get it right in your eyes?
Did you think Ritchie was going to get the win?
Or did you think Hill is going to get it?
I had Ritchie, but it's one of those, like, it's one of those fights where I'm okay.
Like, if you have an Angela Hill 29, 28 card, like, totally.
See it.
Understand it.
Totally could see that outcome.
But I had it for Ritchie.
So it's, it's one of those that like I don't, I don't think if you're 29, 28, either
direction like you're in the wrong there like i could have seen that going either way razor close um exciting
high-paced fight and hard like hard difficult to score a fight like that when when they are both like
giving output like that when they are both operating at such a high level it's difficult and and i would even
go so far as to say in the main event too right like that fourth round when they're both like really being
effective it's hard and you and you don't you know you when it's that close it's that close it's
It's hard to know.
But I had it for Ritchie, so I was aligned.
I did as well.
I gave her the first two rounds of that Ange won the third.
Yeah, there was a judge who was the spring round.
There was a judge who scored the third for her, I believe, though.
Did I read that online?
Yeah, that's weird.
I think I put it in one of our Slack channels.
I was like, eh, didn't really agree with that, but who was it?
Eric Cologne scored.
Wow, he was all over the place.
scored the first round for Hill.
I thought that was like the clearest Ritchie round.
I had one to round three for Ritchie,
which I thought was the clearest Hill round.
Interesting.
Same.
Same.
So that's a bit bizarre.
But either way,
like we arrive at the same thing.
But definitely another Angela Hill split decision that you're like,
yeah,
she probably could have won that too.
Like it's just,
that's kind of like the Angela Hill story,
unfortunately.
But she's an exciting fighter who's had like a really like,
exciting and fun UFC run.
There's worse things than that.
But unfortunately, she seems to be
like on the wrong end of split decisions.
Just like coincidentally, I'd say,
because it doesn't seem like it was like a,
it doesn't seem like it was like a quote unquote robbery, right?
It's not one of those that you go,
oh, the split decision like didn't go her way
and I can't believe it.
It was just a really close, really fun, really good fight,
but she seems to lose those, unfortunately.
Shout out to Kaposa.
he tweeted out it perfectly.
Well, off to another Angela Hill mystery decision.
And boy, was he right, because I had no idea how they were going to score that.
And gradually, Stavid the Ritchie, who, by the way, looked so good on the feed.
This is the best she's ever looked with her striking.
So great, great performance from her.
Angela Hill is just a freaking dog and fun, fun-ass fight, fun co-main event.
We have two new members of the UFC roster now.
One is Ryan Loder, who gets a grounded pound TKO win in round two over Robert Ballantine to win the middleweight championship of tough 32.
And Myron Santos with a nasty knockout of Khan Offley.
And he is now the featherweight winner of the ultimate fighter.
What did you think of these two performances?
And I mean, I didn't really know too much about either guy, but boy, they came through in a big way.
I knew nothing going in.
Myron Santos looks like a dude.
Like, damn, he looks like a killer.
Then, like, the mic skills looked like they had.
Like, he's got a little bit there.
Like, he's telling some, he's doing some good storytelling once he actually got the mic too.
Like, that might be, that might be a guy.
And then I believe I saw like Eric Nixixix in his corner.
I suppose he trains with those guys.
So, like, yeah.
I think that dude's going to be something.
Just first time I've ever seen him,
I was impressed and that knockout was absolutely filthy.
Like sleeping on the way down,
getting a few while he's on his knees,
like nasty, nasty stuff there.
He really impressed.
Loder obviously impressive as well,
just not the same kind of impact as that K.O. had by Santos.
But like, great, great fights by both of them.
They looked extremely sharp.
Yeah, Loader's tough, man.
Was in a tough spot against Robert Valentin.
It seemed like Valentin was heading towards another first round finish.
And then Loader just battled out of it and came out super aggressive.
It's like he knew Valentin was running out of gas already and just attacked him right away.
Got him right to the mat and then got him in the crucifix position.
Just, you know, those elbows weren't the most ferocious elbows you've ever seen.
but Valentine couldn't do anything about it.
They were just going to keep coming in bunches.
And good win for him.
Gets it done.
And we have two new members of the roster.
Michael Morales.
I was just going to say,
one more thing on tough.
Just like at this point,
do we like what is the purpose of tough?
And I'm not even going like,
I'm not even starting down the train of like nobody watches this shit
because everybody knows nobody watches this shit.
Like that's a given at this point.
But I even mean just like,
these dudes are like,
UFC ready.
Like this isn't like prospect.
Like tough used to be like, okay, we're getting guys ready and we're going through this reality
show and like things like that.
Like Brad Cotonas winning tough multiple times.
These guys like Marron Santos could be in the UFC.
Like this is not like some guy like earning.
You know what I mean?
Like it's I don't even know what the purpose of this anymore is.
All of these guys just look like guys you could sign to the roster.
Why are they going through a reality show?
Like, why are they living in a house when you could just put them on on the roster?
To the point that, like, these dudes look better than contender series, guys.
Like, why do they have to go through this reality show to get a prestigious spot in the UFC?
Sign that dude.
Like, that dude's good.
He's ready for the UFC.
He looked extremely ready for the UFC.
I don't know.
I just don't even know.
I don't even know what Tuft is supposed to be.
Now, granted, I'm just, this is the first thought I've had about tough.
for this entire year.
But yeah, what the hell is the point of the show if it's just like really high level guys fighting?
I don't know.
And then I would not be surprised if both Valentin and Offley also both got signed.
Yeah, exactly.
It's very possible.
And there'll probably be other guys from the show who will get signed.
Lotus 33, which just seems, I don't know, unless you're on the challenge, 33-year-olds typically aren't.
on reality shows.
Santos is at least 24.
It's kind of like the right age range for it.
But yeah, dude's real good.
He's going to be real fun in this division.
He's good.
He's just really good.
Again, all four of these guys.
I feel like, yeah, you could have just signed them.
This could have just been a fight.
But anyway, I don't know.
Yeah.
How about Michael Morales?
This is the big test, right?
If you throw him in there with Neil Magny.
If you beat Neil Magny, you're a legit top 15 guy.
I think Magny is ranked 12th in the UFC ranking.
So Michael Morales could be the number 12 ranked welterweight in the UFC come Tuesday.
And the beginning of this fight, New York Rick, was, I was like, oh boy, we are trending down classic Neil Magny territory where he's just going to hold Morales against the fence for 15 minutes and knee him in the thigh a bunch.
And that's what this fight's going to look like.
Then Morales is like, nope, lands an elbow and then just obliterates this man and gets him out of there.
This guy's the real deal.
I think a lot of us knew it anyways.
I think Brennan Fitzgerald labeled imperfectly.
He was the most underrated prospect on the roster
and underrated no more New York.
What a performance.
He is the realist of real deals.
And to your point, like Magni was magneying.
And then he did what Michael Morales does,
which is just like,
I'm a freak athlete and I'm going to just murder you.
Like that is the story of Michael Morales.
Like he is just an Uber prospect.
to I'm not he is not John Jones right like nobody's John Jones no nobody is John Jones
from a from a modern day perspective shout out to the goat but also from like a
prospect perspective like nobody was able to do what John Jones was able to do the reason
that he is the youngest champion in UFC history and that has held forever and will probably
hold forever but he has that thing where it's just like you can see him like just
doing shit that nobody else does because he's just such a weird like freak athlete um and can just
like do whatever he wants and it's and it's and it's and it's scary it's a scary thought because
he's just going to continue to get better and then get better at like the not just doing weird
freak athlete stuff and yeah he's he's he's the real deal man like he's he's going to be extremely
good i'm extremely sure of it um
I was sure of it before Magni, but Magni's obviously been the measuring stick for many a fighter.
And he passed the test with flying colors.
He continues to pass every test with flying colors.
I've believed in Michael Morales.
I believe, like, I don't have any more belief because I was already there.
And so like, yeah, now we're going to see him doing this to top rank guys.
And he's amazing, man.
He's truly incredible.
My, and I'm just going to give away a not-no pick right now,
because my immediate thought in the aftermath of this was like,
who is he going to fight?
And then it like immediately hit me after looking at the rankings
and where everybody sits right now because a lot of these guys already have fights booked
and some not for a couple of months.
I was like, man, Vicente Lucay was about to fight Nick Diaz
and now he's got to fight this dude.
That's where it's going.
He's going to have to fight this guy instead of Nick Diaz now.
And boy, that's a tough draw.
That's a good building step.
I like that.
because like you expect that at this point in their careers
Michael Morales gets another name on his resume there right
the expectation would be like he comes in there and blows the doors off Lucay
and now he's got a nut he's got Magni and now he's got Lucay
and then you start building toward the guys who are like the mot like
really like the stalwart's of the rankings and like you know the tough fights
and then who knows but I think he's ready for I believe like
it's one of those like John Jones and the way the like he keeps like it feels like John Jonesy to me I don't
know it's it's not exactly one to one but it feels John Jonesy in the sense that like maybe he's
not ready but also he's so good that he will be ready if that makes sense like like John Jones
may not have been ready for every fight that was like coming along the way but he's just so good
that like in the fight he will find the way um I but I feel that way about Michael Morales like
you'll put him in there with a rank guy
and it might be like
ah is this too soon but then he'll be in the fight
and he's just that good so like
I'm ready for everything that's coming
Michael Morales as well
God and he's so young too
he's only going to get so much better
that's the thing exciting to watch
yeah we turned
yeah we turned fighters last names
into verbs and adjectives
like he magnied all over him
how about Gerald Mirashart
just mircharting all over Edmund Shabazian
that sounded way worse
saying it, but this was,
yeah.
Why couldn't you be like
Mears Stoney?
Mere Stoombe.
But man, this
fight with Edmund Shabazzian,
if you read my prediction,
if you watched the video
that I post today,
this fight went exactly the way
I thought it was going to go.
Edmund was going to hurt
Mere Sharp bad,
almost get him out of there.
Shout out to whoever the referee was,
I believe was Mark Smith,
who was the referee,
who let this thing go,
because Shabazian knocks
Mirchard down, he gets on top of him, he is just unloading on him with punches and elbows.
And all Mirchart's really doing for five, seven seconds at a time is just, he's keeping his arms up.
And then eventually Mark Smith would be like, do something move, and he would move.
And then Shabazi would mount him.
And then Mirchart would turtle up and get him off and get him back into full guard.
And then Shabazian stands back up and says, come on, Gerald, get back up.
And then Gerald takes him down, arm triangle, taps him in round two.
craziness man and now new york rick the record book stands most finishes in ufc middleweight history
no no no it's not anderson sylva there's only one name at the top and it is gerald freaking
meershardt new york rick this guy is yes the man mustache meershart what a savage
mustache and tan looked good looked real good um in in the cage um didn't look so great when he was
underneath edmund shabaskin who's like trying to murder him
But to your point, like every time it was just about to be stopped, he'd give that little bit of motion and readjust the position and pull him into his guard and do something to kind of stifle Edmund.
I'm, I'm kudos to you for predicting it.
I didn't necessarily like, you know, go out there with any kind of prediction for this.
But I will say this, like if you were writing a script for how this fight would go, like if you go, okay, Edmund Shabazian,
What's the story of Edmund Shabazian?
The story of Edmund Shabazian is always,
comes out like a house on fire,
loses it somewhere along the way,
and then somebody finishes them because they just outlast them.
Gerald Meershardt, nearly on the verge of death,
except for the case of Hamzot,
where he actually gets killed,
and then comes back and pulls off some kind of miracle victory,
miracle sub.
Like, they played to their exact type.
If you scripted it,
this is exactly how the script would play,
beat by beat by beat
and now Gerald Mirchard
is the lone holder
of the most finishes
in UFC in UFC middleweight history
like just gangster shit
like he's he's a gangster
there's nothing more like I think
I think we were talking
about DDP watching earlier the
tweet that he had was just calling him a legend
and like yeah
like incredible shit
just really really impressive stuff
by Gerald Mirchart
just give just give GM3 the title shot i mean come on
just 30s the store to be just like just let ddp thump them around for three rounds
and then who knows who knows it gets to round four and and all bets are off
i mean you it's tough to beat a man you can't kill and gerald mirchard is is one of those
unless again homzot killed them but nobody else but it was just such strange start to the fight
because Shabazzian didn't come out like a house of fire.
He was very composed.
He was picking his shots.
Mirashart tried to take down early.
He couldn't get it.
He was showing some pretty good takedown defense,
showing some good defense against the fence as well.
And I'm just kind of picking them apart.
And I almost tweeted in our Slack channel like,
man, tentative Shabazian is tactical, but not, it's fun.
This is not the fight I expected.
And then round two starts and boom, he gets shot out of a cannon.
that's the guy we have we have known to love he had him heard and just like tried to finish and look like
i don't want to got it like we should all want edmund shabazzian two fight like that right like
when he feels like he's going to get a finish he is chasing that finish to the to the maximum
degree and like i don't know it makes for exciting fights i know there can be a bit of like feeling like
old Edmund Shabazzia, you know, just never
never closes the deal, never gets it done.
But like the dude is trying to finish fights.
Like it, you can't blame them.
Like you, I, I appreciate that as somebody who is a consumer of the product,
as somebody who is a fan, maybe not optimal for, for his long term career.
But at the end of the day, like, maybe he doesn't have that three round thing or maybe
he doesn't, you know, feel comfortable in that scenario.
He wants to finish guys.
And I can appreciate that.
And he's yeah, sometimes it just doesn't it doesn't equate.
And Gerald is definitely one guy who if you are not able to close that door,
if you are not able to seal that deal,
you're probably going to get subbed.
That's just how that goes.
The man with the most finishes in UFC middleweight history is probably going to sub you
if you can't get him out of there.
God, what a weird run it has been for Edmund Chabazi, man.
Gets on the contender series, gets a 40-second knockout,
gets a contract everyone's already touting him wins his debut in a tough fight with a with a tough dude
darren stewart is is no layup especially back in 2018 destroys charles bird in around
destroys jack marshman in around destroys brad davars in a round at ufc 244 they give him derrick brunson
derrick does derrick brunson things then they give him jack hermanson he jack her mansondon all over
edmund shabazzardine imov ds ds d'asardine imov to all over
remember of Mishvasian and then they give him Dalchalung Gambula which is like the perfect
bounce back fight because Dalch is going to get it is a get or get got guy he's not got
to try to take him down he's not going to try to out grind him and he just flying knees him
finishes him and then they're like you know what we're building this guy back up you know
it would be a great guy to throw him in there with let's throw him in there with Anthony Fluffy
Hernandez that would be a great idea and boy was that not a good idea and then they get
AJ Dobson good bounce and good bounce him.
back fight and they're like, you know what, let's throw him in there with another just grimy dog
that if this fight gets to the ground, it's probably not going to last very long. And
the booking of this man is something that needs to be studied in a lab. It's just
he's lost, what, five of his last seven after just such an impressive start to his career.
It's pretty, it's just crazy to think about where he was at Madison Square Garden,
BMF title fight that night. He was one of the stars, the standouts.
to where he is now, it's just insane New York, Rick, the sport.
It's him, right?
When he's good, he's fantastic, right?
When he's, like, when you're first round, when you're blowing the doors off Brad Tavara's,
like that's a statement, right?
That's like a, oh shit, because nobody, like, people don't kill Brad Tavara's, right?
They beat them by decision or he decisions them.
And so what everybody saw in Edmund Chabazzian is still there, right?
Like it's not gone.
It's just that his fighting style, he is going to just obliterate people or he's going to try.
And if he can't, then it doesn't go well for him, right?
Once you extend that fight, it seems like he doesn't have that extra thing on the back end of it.
To your point, like you're surprised when he's being a little more tentative or measured, right?
And so it's still the same guy.
It's still exactly the same guy.
He tried to kill Gerald Milscher and had him in some real danger and possibly could have finished that fight if Gerald's not able to recover guard as many times as he did.
He just is who he is.
He just is who he is.
And it's a fun style.
Like I will watch an Edmund Shabazzian fight because I know it's going to be fun when he's about to murder somebody and possibly does.
and then not as much fun for him potentially when it doesn't work out.
But as I was trying to maybe not so eloquently say before,
I appreciate Edmund Chabazzian as a fan.
That is the type of fighter that I want to watch.
I want to see a guy who really is smelling the blood and wants to finish people.
Like, I can respect it and appreciate it, you know?
I can too.
Also shout out and respect and appreciate Myron Santos,
who just tweeted out,
six minutes ago, where's my bonus?
I mean, it's a fair question.
It is.
But, you know, now you've got that $10,000 UFC contract or whatever the bullshit that they give to these tough guys is.
Like, God damn it.
Like, what is this?
What is this tough thing?
Deserving of a bonus, like, certainly.
And I think Wang Kong or Wang Tong or.
you know, she definitely deserved a bonus.
There was some really good performances here.
So, yeah, I get, I get why he'd be a little upset.
And maybe that contract is part of why he's upset.
Maybe he's looking at that going.
Man, I could have signed the UFC outright and made a lot more money.
A great tweet.
But yeah, great performance.
Really, really, really stellar performance by him.
Shout out to Francis Marshall going up a weight class.
and on short notice and beats Dennis Mujuca,
that was pretty impressive.
Zach Reese, Jose Medina, goes to decision?
He beat the living freak out of that dude.
He just, I don't know if I've seen a more one-sided ass whipping in a while.
Like, shout out to Medina, though, who was like, like, taunting him as he's, like,
getting his ass, like, completely beaten.
Like, he just was getting whooped from pillar to post.
and he's just like taunting and like like at the end of the first round i think he like missed an
elbow or a punch or something and he's doing like the like you know whiff um thing but he was
getting his ass completely beat um so like extremely tough extremely extremely extremely
extremely tough but just had nothing um for rice like but uh yeah a one-sided ass whipping
that i i wouldn't have thought goes to decision if i if you just watch that
first round but Medina's like one of the toughest humans I've ever seen.
That's how he got his contract.
He fought Magamad Gadja Yulov.
I think something to that effect.
Look at it right now.
Yeah.
Yeah, Gadsi just outpuffed him.
That was like the, that was like a story.
Oh, he lost.
Oh, he got the shit beat.
He got his ass beat and he got the deal.
Oh, and he got a contract.
Yeah, he got a contract because he did this.
Essentially the same exact thing that he did in this fight.
Like, he just took a tremendous beating and kept fighting and probably taunted a little bit and got a contract.
So that's going to be his role.
Yeah, I was going to say, which is a good role.
He's continuing that.
And now in the next fight, they'll give him to somebody and he can be on the wrong side of an ass whipping again.
Yes.
Nice win for Slava Clause against James Longtop.
That was fun.
Jackal Cavalcanti beats Josiana Nunes.
we had a awful scorecard shot of Rah McCarthy 3027 josian nunes what the fuck fight was he watching
holy shit and then uh let's talk about wang kong by the way before before we talk about wayn kong's
performance we talk about this all the time victoria leonardo needs to be employed with the ufc forever
forever like you have a hot shit prospect coming up that's about to make her debut you throw
in there at victoria leonardo because you need a nail who could just sit there and
and put your talent over.
She's tremendous of that.
Natty Ice.
Who's the other one?
Man in Fioreo,
like they made their,
they were early on in their careers.
You throw them in there with Victoria Leonardo.
You get a first round finish.
You got to keep her on the roster forever.
I don't care if she was one in 10.
Just keep her on there.
She's exactly what you need to introduce some of these other fighters.
But Wang Kong, man, she is fun.
She is fun.
She's a pistol, 62 seconds in and out of there, and then a promo and a half on the mic.
She calls out the UFC and says, I'm not happy right now.
Essentially, I should not be the opening fight on a prelim on any card.
It should be on a main card.
Send me to Macau, put me on a main card.
Casey O'Neill.
Let's fight.
Tremendous stuff.
Love it.
Tremendous.
A plus. A plus.
You often don't see like that level of like confidence to kind of do that when, you know,
you are the opening fight of the night so shout out to her but also just like swag she's got swag man
like she just has it you like the moment she knocked her down she knew that shit was over she's
already strutting like she's got it she she's whatever it is she has it that that is somebody
to watch um who knows like what that looks like once the level increases but for now if if she's
fighting at this level she's going to be styling on people and it's going to be styling on people and it's
going to be a lot of fun to watch.
Like Casey O'Neill feels like maybe like we're jumping like real high, but I don't know.
Like unless I'm mistaken, they said she has a kickboxing win over Valentina Shevchenko.
Yeah, 2015.
Yeah.
So she's clearly like an extremely high level striker.
Maybe it's not too high.
I always feel like, you know, that doesn't necessarily change.
Right.
Like MMA is is very different.
And so I don't know.
Maybe that maybe that's not too high a step up though.
So yeah, I don't know, give her Casey O'Neill.
I'd be fine with that.
I don't know if Casey wants to do that.
She just got back on track, and I don't know if that's like, you know,
you give somebody who just made their UFC debut an opportunity.
But hell, I'll watch her versus anybody.
She's got swag.
I was very impressed.
She's very fun.
She's very fun.
Yeah.
It's going to be interesting to see how they book her.
Did you just give her another lower ranked flyweight?
Or you just kind of push her to the moon right now and just see what she's got.
I would give her one more like, yeah, go in there and spark somebody type fight.
But I don't know.
You're right.
Like maybe there's not a lot of time for that, right?
Like maybe let's start the build now toward, oh, man, Valentina Shochenko wins the title back from Alexa Grasso.
And now it's like the one that you know, you just run the Izzy and Alex storyline.
It's like she's got the win over her.
You know, what do we do here?
They need to resolve their issues.
And you just shoot her to the moon.
So let's see.
Give her Juliana Miller.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
Julian is tough.
She'll take an ass open.
Do we know anything about her ground game?
Like, does she have any ground game?
her road to UFC win to get her in was a first round submission
as a mounted 18.
All right.
Then yeah.
Hell yeah.
I like that then because Juliana Miller might, you know, try to take it to the grappling
realm and she's slick there.
But if she's got some grappling, then yeah, let's do that.
I'm down.
Oh, no.
Nope.
I'm sorry.
I was, hold on.
I just said, I want to make sure.
Let me just make sure she is not booked because there is an obvious answer to this.
And I can't.
I'm ashamed.
I'm ashamed that I didn't think of this.
She is not booked.
She is not booked, but there are levels to being the nail.
Victoria Leonardo is like the entrance step.
Step two is Priscilla Cachewara.
That's the one.
She's the one.
She's the one.
There you go.
There's your pick.
The thing about that one, though, is it might, she might pull it to decision, you know?
She might take it for a while.
That's the thing about Priscilla.
She's zombie girl.
She's extremely tough.
And so we might not get that like that instant quick K.O.
Out of that one.
But I'm down.
I'm down.
I like that one.
All right.
Let's bring, let's bring Casey in.
Let's talk to the peeps.
Let's see what they're talking about.
Sleeves, no sleeves for Casey still.
Hi, everybody.
He had sleeves on.
And then the card was so good, he took the sleeves off.
That's exactly what happened.
Yeah.
Yeah, I had a sweater, a beanie, everything.
But then that main card started.
It's like, old.
All right, all right.
Get our super chats out first, what we got here?
Justin wants Kyle versus Izzy.
Well, he should have called for it.
Now he's not going to get it.
Sorry, sorry.
He has fight DDP now.
He caught it out.
He can't buy it.
We didn't talk about this.
but like I was surprised to not see him try to grapple with Canineer, right?
It felt like that would have been the most obvious path to victory.
Don't get me wrong.
Like I was impressed.
He looked extremely composed on the feet, like both offensively and defensively.
He looked very sharp.
There was an eye poke earlier, but it seemed like it was more a product of the fact that he was really trying to catch, right?
He was really trying to like follow Canineer with his eyes, catch a little bit, throw back, stick with that jab.
and like he was he was very good on his feet i'm not trying to imply that like he needed to shoot
for a takedown but i do get the feeling like maybe this fight could have been easier for him
if he shot for takedowns right if he tried to grapple um were you surprised that like he didn't
grapple i was very surprised he didn't grapple very surprised i mean he won and it all worked out
for him but he's just like canadier's like not a bad wrestler he's just not a great defense
of wrestler.
And if you take him down,
you can keep him there.
And as we,
a house.
I don't think it's fair to be like,
hey,
look,
he would have looked like he looked
in round five because he was extremely rocked,
right?
Like the grappling,
at that point,
the grappling is out the window
because like Kenanier got bombed on.
But he was able to control him very easily
by that point.
And so,
yeah,
maybe it could have been easier.
But at the same time,
I wonder if he got in there in round one
and was just like so good
and comfortable on his feet,
he probably thought, eh, I'll just stick here.
You know, like, I'm doing fine.
I'm doing well.
I don't know.
We'd have to know kind of more about what he was thinking coming in,
but he looked damn good.
And if,
if Carl did have a more of a wrestling,
grappling game plan,
and he still won the fight,
would we be talking about him in this way?
Yeah,
maybe he'd want to prove something.
And that's what I think he made,
invented before, right?
Or is this his first man?
Yeah, no.
That was first.
Okay.
Oh, really?
I thought his last,
what was his last fight?
It wasn't a main event?
No,
it was on 301.
Oh,
okay.
I thought he,
I thought he made event to last.
I feel like he's been like a few co-main events for Apex Car.
Oh,
he's been the co-main event.
Yeah,
yeah,
that's the way he was doing for.
Yeah.
So,
yeah,
so,
yeah,
so like,
you know,
he's getting main event money.
So it's like,
all right,
bring his hands out.
So,
um,
I think,
I think he was fighting to prove a point tonight,
uh,
like to kind of not just get the W, but kind of a show I'm an exciting fighter, not just a great fighter.
And honestly, that's why I felt coming into this fight.
You know, he looked apart, but entertainment-wise, you know, he was, you know, efficient.
But tonight was the most exciting fight I've seen from actually both those gentlemen in quite a bit.
So, yeah, it's just great main event.
And he came out on top.
Cal versus Izzy, though.
Oh, sorry.
If he wanted to make a point, he proved it to me.
Like, he looked damn good.
To me too.
Yep, yep.
Follow up, Stephen Dawson.
I'm sorry.
I'm watching a clip of Floyd Mayweather kicking the referee out of the fight.
What?
He's fighting Gotti the third.
And the referee stops the fight.
And I think, I don't know what round it was for something.
And then Flayne Mayweather just kick the referee out of the ring.
And then another referee comes in.
And they start freaking.
Wait, I, oh, man.
He just swaps.
He's like, get out.
And here's my guy.
That's incredible.
He's just yelling at him, but he boots him.
Oh, that's incredible.
Floyd Mayweather is the best bad getter who has ever existed in human history.
A hundred.
100%.
The best.
There is nobody who compares to him in terms of just like showed up for work, did exactly his same thing, did exactly what he wanted to do, and got paid Buku bucks, just got paid like out the ass to just do nothing, to just like really not like give a shit.
Oh my God.
That's so great.
during the my my favorite interview during the uh connor mayweather press week fight week we were at mayweather's
gym and ariel was interviewing um oh what's his name is the um it's one of the uncles roger roger
no no the other one the other one uh there's another one there's another one well it was one of the mayweather
guys uh i can't remember saying but and and ergo's kind of like kind of saying you know
it's just going to ruin the legacy of Floyd just even taking a fight like this.
And he said it so perfectly.
He's like, he's like, legacy don't buy cars.
Legacy don't pay for mansions.
And that's all he says.
He's just, stop asking me stupid questions.
And like, he just told it.
And I was like, yeah, all right.
It sounds like Roger Mayweather to be.
Yeah.
Wasn't Roger, but I know, but.
Could be Floyd, Jr.
Yeah.
Senior gets a little Craig, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, but yeah, I was just like, oh, yeah.
And Arrow was just like, all right, well said.
All right, move.
It was just like, yeah.
And Floyd, that's just been, Floyd just stuck to that rule.
It was like, I don't care.
Because I think I asked this in the fan Q&A.
I was like, is this going to ruin Floyd's or tarnish Floyd's legacy kind of taking these stupid, whatever?
I don't know.
It can't even call them fights.
And no, because they're paying for everything.
So, yeah, good on Floyd.
well that's the thing
Floyd's legacy
I mean there's a few things
he is a very like
I think he is one of the most
unique places in combat sports
and obviously in boxing history
because right like he has that 50
and no right which
nobody else can kind of claim like
they have gone this long
and had this undefeated and maintained it
right other guys have had
long undefeated streaks
but then they lose it right he is the one
who walked away before he suffered the defeat, which is the important part of it.
But nobody thinks that Floyd, okay, maybe not nobody.
Many do not think Floyd is the best boxer of all time, right?
Many think, you know, there's guys with losses that they put above them.
Sugar Ray Robinson's, Muhammad Ali's, guys like that.
They would always say like those are the goats.
Yeah.
But he has that.
He has that 50 and O and it's there.
And it stares you in the face every time you think about him.
He never lost.
The man never, ever suffered defeat.
And so he can always go back to that, right?
When we have a legacy conversation, I never lost.
Nobody ever beat me.
Nobody's ever beaten me.
Hell, nobody ever really got me.
Like, Shane Mosley got him and had him hurt, and that's it.
That's the only thing that you can say about Floyd his entire career.
And so he's got something that's like extremely unique.
But it's not goat, right?
But then he's got this other part of it, which is like the point of all this is prize fighting.
And he has been the, that he is the goat.
He is the actual goat of prize fighting.
When it comes to having been the guy on the marquee, making the most money, different eras, different levels of fights, different fighters, he's done every single thing that you can do when it comes to that, the business of boxing.
to the point where
Mayweather Promotions is an established brand
is a thing that has made so much money.
It's not just Floyd collecting the purses.
It's him deciding I'm also going to be a promoter
and cashing in so much of that as well.
So there's so many pieces to the Floyd thing.
It's very fascinating because he has legacy stuff too.
He has actual fight stuff too.
And then you combine it with the business of it.
he's definitely the best at the combination of those two things.
He's definitely the goat in terms of that.
But it's like,
he's just a very fascinating character to me.
And his place in boxing is extremely fascinating to me.
But man,
that dude has made so much money.
I don't think it tarnishes anything because it's just like,
nobody thinks of this as the same thing, right?
Nobody gives a shit about the John Gotti fight.
Nobody's like, oh, that hurts his legacy.
because like nobody cares.
Nobody even like bothers.
Because we know what Floyd's end game is.
Exactly.
He's so transparently about the business.
It's just like nobody, nobody cares.
And they know it's a bag.
And also, quite frankly, he still never even loses these.
He doesn't lose.
It doesn't matter.
I don't know.
That Logan Paul, that Logan Paul fight was.
I'm just saying.
Man, they were so short.
Logan was so sure.
He's like, ah, took some rounds off Floyd.
and Jake's like, you beat him, you beat Floyd Mayweather.
And everybody's just like, what are you talking about, dude?
What are we talking about here?
All right.
What a bad getter, though.
Floyd, Jesus, that guy.
All right.
The money he has made.
All right.
Back to regular schedule program.
Okay.
We didn't answer this, right?
That was all your fault.
That was my fault.
It was all my fault, actually.
I watched the clip and was crying, laughing.
How many fights away from the title is,
I know, Rick, I'll ask you, how many, do you think he's one away?
I think he's two.
One, one, two.
Like, he could be one.
Let's, like, if he gets, if he got an Israel out of Sanya, he's one, right?
Like, if he comes in, fights Izzy and smokes Izzy, then, like, yeah, he's one, he's won away, because that'll be next.
But it's one or two.
And that's a fantastic position to be in if you're him, like the momentum that you have.
and all the time is on your side.
He's such a like new entrant to this.
Like, man, he's in, he's in a great spot.
One or two.
Like, no more than that.
I wish he called out Izzy, man.
Like, I really wish he did.
And I know how you feel about the calls, but I think he called out.
Honestly, I think, I think the headline would not have been he beat Jared Cannonere.
Because that would, it's a big part of the story, but the headline would have been he called out Israel out of Sanya after beating Jared Kahninair.
Like that would have made more of an impact to me.
What do you think Izzy does next?
Izzy's very fast.
His next move is very fascinating to me.
It is.
Because I don't know how he's thinking.
I don't know if he's thinking like,
fuck it, let's have some fun, right?
Like it could be like, fuck,
like I don't give a shit.
Give me anybody.
Give me the bone nickel fight.
You know what I mean?
Like he could be in that mentality.
Or he could be like,
nah,
I kind of want to stay with like a top guy.
Like, you know,
like I want to stay with like some of the old guard names
and stay with that and try to get my name back in the combo.
Like, what do you think he does?
He's the more fascinating end to this because like maybe he goes, yeah, I'll fight Kyle.
I don't care.
Whatever.
And is it a year off or is he want to come back like two months?
Yeah.
That's all going to come back.
I think he comes back relatively.
Not like remunct as soon as the schedule lines up, right?
But he's not taking an extended amount of time off.
It seemed like he got that brinked.
in between these last two fights
and he felt like reinvigorated.
That's the sense I got from him like during the fight week.
It seemed like he was like, yeah,
I needed some time off.
I fought too much.
And now I'm back and now I'm like in a good spot.
That's the sense I got from him.
So I don't expect he'll be off very long.
I think he'll come back pretty soon.
Co-main event for a pay-per-view?
Sure.
I mean, you could headline obviously like...
But it won't be a title fight,
but I mean, that's the only reason.
But I'm saying though like it depends on what it is right like you can definitely if izzie and bow nickel is a fight like that could headline something and if you're running out of times like john jones is sitting on the sideline and tom doesn't want to fight you know to defend that like you're running out of titles you're running out of opportunities to to fill up that calendar i'd want i think izzie versus bow could be a title could be a a paper view fight i think there'd be there'd be enough interest in uh
and kind of how that goes so i kind of i kind of love that fight i know people were kind of i think
jett threw that out on btl and people were like well i was like i don't know i like it i think i
think if you're if you're anyone out there you fight bow now you fight boe yesterday don't fight him next
week and um i don't know it's a risky fight though it's fine i want to see it's very it is a
risky fight risky i also think i also think bow i mean if they offered it to bow i don't think
Bo's going to say no, but I think Bo's kind of looking at things like a little bit more of a
slower build. I think he feels like he's got all the time in the world. So I don't know.
I'm going to have other super chats, but actually I want to throw this one out here from our friend
Joseph Boza. If Wittaker beat Shima if at 308, then how good are the chances for Kaya to get the
title shot? If Wittaker's if Wittaker beat Shama if he's way, he's ahead of Kio. Like, it's not
even close. He's so far ahead.
So they'll just do DDP.
What? Oh, do we
do DDP Whittaker, man. He's, is he sleeping?
What's going on? Is he frozen?
You're on the clock. Frozen like Elsa over there?
That's a good line. This is his last show. He's, he's pranking.
Did you get, did you get kicked off the network again?
He's gone. He's gone. He's gone.
He's gone. He's got a good run.
What happened?
Do DDP, DDP spent six minutes of that press conference.
a week ago, putting over the fact that Robert Whitaker should be his next opponent.
There he is.
Hey, sorry.
I thought you got booted from the system again.
No, no, no, no, not this time.
Not this time.
Not this time.
Okay, so you do.
I don't think this increases his chances at all.
Okay.
So, so DDP Whitaker is on the table, though, if Whitaker was.
100%.
D&P.
He wants that a fight.
Well, I mean, I'm just saying, you know, he's going to his butt kick.
people want to see the rematch.
No, no.
That,
because I think most people look at that one and go,
DDP got him.
You know,
yeah,
DDP got them at the right time.
And so I'd watch,
I'd watch that one again instantly.
Also,
Rob's,
Rob's one of those guys that like,
even if he'd be being Shemiyaf,
too, to earn it.
It'll be,
just out of nowhere.
He'd be beating Shemah
coming to,
yeah,
so we got to imagine that, too.
But it's,
Rob's one of those guys,
like,
even though he lost badly to Izzy,
like,
I was still wanting to see him get another crack at that.
You know, like he's one of those guys that, like, you don't go, he got smoked.
It'll be the same thing again.
He's so good.
Like, you just want to see Rob Whitaker fight all the top level guys five times.
Like, he's one of those guys.
So I agree.
I agree.
I just, you know, some people are like, we are he goes butt kicked.
I don't want to see it again, you know.
I could, I could see Dana throwing that at us.
but um you know because it's Dana talk but uh yeah that's the one i want to see the most if i'm being
honest i want ddp versus whittaker the most out of all the potential options for ddp but um
i'm open to like a lot like there's a lot of good matchups for ddp right now yeah yeah and
we talk woodaker this is on the assumption that he beat shmive not just right now yeah okay
copy that all right thank you much uh mr bozett now back to our super chats giovanni
New York,
didn't always agree with you,
but appreciate how you always gave my questions a good answer.
As a barber,
I give your hair 8.7 out of 10.
Stay blessed.
Man, I don't know.
B plus?
Yeah,
I feel like I'm top of the game right now.
Like, I'm on point.
Like, 8.7?
Like, I feel like I'm 10.
If not 10, I'm 9.9.9.8.
Like, I don't know.
It might be a 12.
I think 12 out of shit.
We might be.
We might be.
This hair is on point.
But thank you.
One of the things that I can appreciate and love the most is people who, even though they don't have the same opinion as you, you can appreciate an answer or rather like you could appreciate conversation about something as opposed to just being like, I feel this way, you feel this way.
we're not always going to agree.
Mike and I, as we laugh about all the time, right?
Like, he feels a certain way about the callouts.
I feel a certain way about the callouts,
but I like that conversation.
Like, that's the conversation I want to have.
I want to talk about things like we disagree with.
It's boring if you're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel this way.
Like, nobody wants that.
That's politics.
Like, that's red versus blue stuff.
That's boring.
That's lame.
So shout out to you, Giovanni.
Like, that's a very elevated kind of position to have.
Love that.
Eric, you should, like, leave M.M.A. fighting more often because this love best you're getting is, like, amazing.
It is nice.
It is nice.
You just like, leave, come back and leave again.
Look, I've already done it twice, so don't tell me.
That's true.
Um, oh.
Rick, two words.
I won.
Our boy Achilles.
I see he was watching.
I see he was watching BTL.
I see he was watching BTL.
Shout out to you, Akiles Jr.
Another one who I can appreciate.
Yeah.
Akkili Jr.,
don't you dare get a Yahoo account or email address.
You stay here with us.
We'll forward the messages to Rick, but...
They'll send them to me.
They'll let me know.
Yeah.
Mike has a Dunkin' Dunkin' Donuts tabby.
We need you a kid.
Mike, Mike,
kicking off his Instagram post either yesterday or today with like,
America runs on Duncan,
I run on Duncan.
He's toast into the Super Chat.
Shout out to the Super Chats.
Delicious.
I mean, the coffee is just getting more delicious every day.
It's all because of you all.
I love it.
That's now where the Super Chat money goes, but I love the gimmick.
Spencer,
loved getting to see one last battle in the hallowed Jed, New York, Rick
rivalry on BTL Wednesday or Thursday.
Always respected the takes and honesty New York, Rick.
You're a real dude and it was appreciated.
Sorry, Jed, but John Jones is the goat.
Spencer, you have some taste.
You've got class and you've got taste.
Never let anybody tell you John Jones is a chicken and not a goat because chickens can't
be goats and goats can't be chickens.
He's the goat.
And thank you for the kind words.
Really appreciate it.
I just got to fix that.
There we go.
Wow.
I don't know how you did that, but it's impressive.
Everett with the Big Van Vader photo, which I appreciate.
Jared the Cannibal Kid, Canaan Air versus Jed, the killer, gorilla, Michoud, and Mirkat by Handelbar, Farewell, New York, Rick, Post Show for Life.
Mir cat
By Handelvar
The mustache was killer
The mustache was truly killer today
By Mirr-sharp
They did not talk about that enough on the broadcast
Yeah
GM3 was
That tan and mustache
That is a handsome man
I don't know
There's something about him man
I was just like
Like classic
Classically handsome
You know
Like an 80s TV star, like classic Tom Seliky, like, yo, I'm just a handsome man with a mustache here.
And by the way, got a tan too.
How about that?
Yeah, it was a good tan.
All right.
Living that Florida lifestyle, man.
A little Magnum GM going down.
Gymnazum GM.
I like it.
Nice.
No, super chat from Stephen Delson.
Steve, where do Hill and Ritchie go from here?
To me, Hill seems like she can never get over the hump and Ritchie.
I don't know yet if she has what it takes to be champ.
What do you think?
Hill's just employed for life.
So she's just going to keep biting people.
It's just always exciting fights.
You may not win them all, but yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and Hill, like, is in main events for them.
And, like, she's, yeah, I agree.
Like, if the hump is title to fight for the title, I don't, yeah, I don't think she gets over that hump.
But she's in such a good spot.
It's such a good standing UFC-wise.
Like she's in the co-main event of this fight.
She's headline cards for them before.
Like, and she doesn't fall from there, you know?
Like she's in that part of the conversation at all times.
And so, like, I don't know.
Like, I think she just stays there.
She's always going to be somebody who, like, is a name that people recognize because she's
been in that position for so long.
And she's always in the fight.
And she's always given an exciting fight.
Like they know that she's going to stand up and try to fight.
So she'll hang there.
I think she'll hang there for as long as she can keep doing it.
And she seems like she's still at a relatively high level,
even though she's got a lot of miles, right?
And they mentioned like she's passing 2,000 significant strikes and things like that.
Number three behind Max Holloway and Sean Strickland as far as significant strikes.
What is amazing stat, an amazing stat.
And you know what's funny about that?
Like those are also two guys who are kind of just like going to be around, you know?
like Max Holloway, the story could have been over for that guy like five years ago because, oh, he's been in so many wars.
He's been around so long, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But like still doing it.
And I feel like Angela Hill has kind of got that same thing.
Like, still doing it.
She'll be around.
She hasn't declined in my eyes.
I don't know if you guys feel differently, but she's like as good as she was there.
But I don't think she has that extra level, that extra gear that is like title, that is champion.
And so she's just going to be here.
She's going to be here doing that.
What's next for her?
I don't know.
Like a fun fight with somebody ranked 5 through 15.
That's probably what's next for her.
Ritchie, I don't know.
McKenzie Dern and Amanda Rebus just got booked, right?
Yeah.
That was a thing.
She just beat the Hill who was nine in the UFC rankings.
Amanda Lamos just had a big win, yes?
How about?
What was Amanda Lemosch's last fight?
She lost.
She lost.
She lost.
It seems like Amanda LaMosch, right?
Like that makes sense.
Ritchie versus Lamash.
If you fight someone coming off a loss, sure.
I like, uh,
she's five.
I mean,
I mean, we, we had five versus 12 tonight
the main event.
Just saying.
Yeah.
I like Loma.
Loma is just outside the top 15.
She's on a three-fight win streak.
I like also Ritchie's going to fight down.
I feel like she has to fight up.
I don't mind her fighting down.
She's just fought,
uh,
Or last fight was against Tisha Pennington, right?
Which I hate saying this because I thought, I thought Tisha won that fight.
Yeah, that was a controversial one.
Yeah, I know this fight was super close.
I thought Angela won this fight.
I'm looking at MMA decisions.
About two thirds of media had reached you in the fight.
90% though, no, sorry, 80% no 90% no, I can't read.
Oh, sorry, 84% of the fans had Angela Hill winning the fight.
So maybe I don't know if the UFC sees it.
maybe they might yeah i can see her i don't know
ritchie's got there's
it could go a bunch of ways honestly
i think they're going to push ritchie i don't know i feel like
she's going to fight up i just don't feel like they're going to have her
loma's a loma's a
dangerous fight to take that's a dangerous fight to take because
loma can make can make some really good fighters look not so good
um she sure can so i don't know
who just beat lupy then someone just beat loopy
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But she's booked versus, I mean, see that either of those options would have made a lot of sense.
Oh, sorry.
A rebass fight or a Duren fight would have made a lot of sense.
But then now they're booked against each other.
So it's a weird spot.
Yeah.
Who knows?
She also didn't.
I don't know how the UFC will try to book her.
She doesn't seem so precious, right?
Like I feel like she'll fight.
Like she seems like somebody who will just like fight
So if they offer somebody back
I'm sure she'll take it like she seems like she just like staying active
That's that's the sense I get from Ritchie
She just wants to fight
All right
Do we talk about this?
No
What did you think of Gerald's call out of Paul Craig?
End of year fight night in Tampa I believe
I'm taking I'll start this one
A plus
Perfect call out
fucking perfect.
No notes.
Well done.
Florida Gerald gets a hometown fight.
Florida Gerald.
The tan will be top notch going into the holiday season.
The stash will be a plenty.
Paul Craig's a madman.
It'll probably end in a double rear naked choke submission.
Both guys will choke each other unconscious.
It's just the perfect fight.
It is the most mirrory, mirror fight that I could possibly
think of.
They're exactly the same fighter.
Like the T,
the Aryan fighter.
Get their asswept and then pull out the late
submission.
A little limited in the striking.
Just a means to an
end to trying to kind of get it to the ground.
Yeah.
Whoever
whoever
starts to do well
first is fucked.
basically.
Whoever, whoever is like, oh shit, I'm looking good here.
They're done.
Unfortunately, you're screwed.
But that's how that goes.
They should almost like try to like suck a little bit.
Like, oh, man, he's getting me.
He's getting me.
And then they pull off the submission.
Whoever does well, sorry.
Like not going to end well for you.
But yeah, like I love, I love it.
Those two guys, I think, could have a lot of fun.
That'd be a fun fight.
Well done.
Mike Kack got a tweet posted in the main.
I didn't even see it.
What I did see was, what does that mean?
I don't know what this means.
The tweets.
I was on, they posted my tweet on the broadcast.
Oh, in the broadcast.
Okay.
Sorry.
I didn't know what posted meant.
Now I'm tracking.
Yeah, yeah.
Jed, Jed's, Jed Mishu got a post up for like a half a second.
And I think they were like, oh, shit.
No, no, no.
What was it?
It was, it was Kio not, not grappling.
is like atrocious fight IQ or something.
No way.
That's such a Jed. That's such a Jed tweet.
And then it didn't even get to like full board before they blurt it out and just pulled it up the screen.
Oh wow.
So they like you think they had like second thoughts.
They were like, oh, here's one.
But then they were like, wait a minute.
Why is he shitting on Kaya?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the most Jed.
That's the most Jed tweet.
It is truly.
Like he's looking good on.
his feet. He's destroying Ken near his legs. And it's just like, why isn't he grappling?
Yeah.
Moron, boo.
I got to tweet this.
I think they're trying to like pay attention to those a little bit more because I mean,
I've had tweets where I was like, yeah, this is certainly a fight that is taking place.
And like that tweet.
They put those up on the screen.
Oh, man.
This is like a couple of years ago.
I'm just like, I cannot believe this made the broadcast.
Who do you think does that?
There's, there's like an intern somewhere in the truck.
Like, who do you think is actually sitting there, like, curating this shit?
I don't know.
I think they have their favorites because they know, like, you see people's personalities, like, absolutely change when the broadcasts are on because they want their tweets up there.
Which is hilarious to me.
That's funny.
It's very, very funny.
Dude, when I was, yeah, when I was on Twitter, like, I tried to get, like, because I knew I was, I never get on.
But then I was like, okay, I'm just going to compliment every round and hashtag everything.
And I never got like, what a war, what a war, UFC hashtag.
I don't know, whatever.
And I never got on.
I would have me.
I think Ariel, I think Ariel tried that for a while, too.
Just like overly, overly, like, sweet praise for random moments.
You'll be, you'll be surprised to know.
Ariel never got on the UFC broadcast that way.
Yeah, me and Aaron.
We're on the list.
Yeah, I don't know.
Who did you thought?
Wasn't there, like, a sponsor during, like,
Otter Pop.
Atter Pops.
Otter Pops.
You used to hashtag otter pops just trying to get out on broadcasts.
It's incredible.
The people at otter pops loved it.
I got retweeted the heck out of the otter pop account, but UFC, nothing.
That's amazing.
That's so shameless.
That's incredible.
It's so good.
Visit Abu Dhabi, hashtag otterpops.
Not to cut them up.
It's so good.
It's so good.
It didn't fall for it.
Oh, my God.
All right.
Look, we're going to hour 10 on this throwaway apex card.
Look at a good thing.
It was a good.
Dude, yeah, I think we're going to question.
It's actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it was a, the card, it was a, yeah, great main card.
The time, the time slot sucked for you guys especially.
But it was a really good main.
It's 3 a.m. I didn't even realize it was 3 a.m.
Yeah. Great main card.
Losing a fight and then we had a 62 second fight within the first hour of the broadcast.
And then it was like another 30 minutes after that until the second fight.
And then the pacing got a little bit better after that.
But yeah.
I did take a nap.
I did like a 20 minute nap on the prelims.
Very very smart.
Very smart.
You should have tweeted that.
You should have tweeted that.
They would have put that on the broadcast.
Goodbye.
Thanks, UFC.
Whatever fight coming up.
Taking a 20 minute nap.
See you soon.
Hashtag Otterpops.
Hashtag Otterpops visit Abu Dhabi.
Love the pacing.
No UFC car next week.
We get a rare weekend off.
And then they're back September 7th.
Gilbert Burns versus Sean Brady.
Jessica Androge versus Natty Ice.
The people's main event.
Hashtag my main event.
I'm very excited for that fight.
Matt Chanel Alessandro Costa
someone going 9-night real quick
Trevor Peake is back
against Yanal Ashmoos
Kyle Nelson versus Steve Garcia
that's going to be fun
Oh that's fun
Yeah Andre Lima versus Felipe
Dos Santos that's going to be fun
Jacqueline Amarim Vanessa DiMopoulos
Isaac Dolgarian versus Brennan Marat
Andre Petroski Dylan Budka
Gabriel Santos versus
Yiza Rangzu versus Chris Padilla
there you go taco's back
I take taco's back
We have the Zygamontas
Ramasca versus Nathan Fletcher fight rebooked
And we also have guys
Light heavyweight action
Ryan Spann versus Ovens
St. Peru
Love it
Is going down September 7th
I believe
6 p.m. main card
Is that what I'm seeing? Because that's tremendous
That's very early
7 p.m. main card
4.
PM pre-th.
7 p.m.
M.
M.
I like that.
Otter Pop,
brought you by Reads season.
Shout out, Max.
Yes.
New York, Rick.
What a pleasure.
What an honor.
Any final words for the peeps?
Because,
yeah, take me off screen
because I need to get some issues.
Please.
No,
thank you for laying out
and giving me a little bit
of time in this moment.
I just want to say thanks.
like to everybody, obviously to you guys, right, to Mike and Casey and everybody who kind of works at
MMA fighting and does these shows and provides this content to the fans, but also it's like to the fans.
Like, you guys are the reason we do this thing. And I'm very thankful that you watch this.
And I don't mean just like, I'm going to another place. Only watch that. No, like the industry
of MMA needs the fans. And you guys are, you guys are why this exists and why I'm able to,
have a career and this isn't just a hobby for me.
And so I don't forget that.
And I'm thankful for that.
And the people who ask the questions and engage with the content and are watching us,
the thousands of you that are watching us now at 246 a.m. East Coast,
like, this is how we make our living and are able to do this.
And that is not lost upon me.
And so I thank you for that.
And thanks for hanging with us.
Continue to watch these post shows.
Continue to support MMA fighting.
hopefully support my new venture as well.
But it's all about you guys.
And so hopefully we provide something to you.
I think the fact that you continue to tune into the says that.
But thank you for that.
Oh, all right.
Give it a rest.
Give it a rest.
There we go.
There's the music playing.
But we can all admit one last time.
The hair is a 10.
Like that 8.7 guy, like, I don't know what he was thinking, but like, come on.
Even like, right now it's like humid in my house.
So like I've got the curls going.
Like you can see like I've come on.
It's just it's too good right now.
He's the Gerald Mearshire.
Yes.
The M.MA media space right now.
My beard is very prepubescent.
Like I cannot grow like a good mustache or anything like that.
So I'm not in the territory there.
Like you guys like Mike, you've got like a super solid five o'clock shadow.
Casey obviously like the mustache is like 15 out of 10.
So I'm failing there.
But like up here, come on, come on now.
I mean, it's too good.
It's just too good.
Just like this show. Just like this day.
Thank you all very much.
Thank you, New York Rick. You are the man.
We're out of here for Casey for New York Rick one last time.
I am Mike Heck.
Have a great night. Get some sleep, you crazies.
Peace out.
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