Modern Wisdom - #025 - Q&A 101

Episode Date: August 13, 2018

Jonny & Yusef from PropaneFitness.com are back again. This time we asked for questions from listeners at home, and oh boy did we get some interesting ones... We talk honestly about our relationships ...with each other, open up regarding our own mental health battles, and elucidate what is probably the best short-form life advice we can give you. Plus we work out what is the biggest animal we can single handedly cling film to a lamppost. Listen through until the end to find out what episodes and topics we have coming up and hear me begin to articulate "My Why". Also... This probably ranks as my favourite episode to record so far. The questions are so wide ranging and either interesting or ridiculous; both of which are fantastic to answer. It's a credit to the community who tune into these podcasts, so thank you. Check out everything I recommend from books to products and help support the podcast at no extra cost to you by shopping through this link - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi friends, welcome to fuck off. Sorry, that's the, that is the mastering program. Just alerting me with its mastered a different file and interrupted me recording this one. I'm going to keep it in. Today's our first ever Q and A episode. I asked on my Instagram at Chris Wellex for suggestions for questions. You wanted us to answer on the podcast and there was quite a lot. And we got through most of them. Johnny and Yusuf were fully fatigued by the end of it. However, if you are listening right through until the end, you will find out who some of
Starting point is 00:00:42 the upcoming guests are that you can expect. And you'll also find out what my thoughts are on the direction for this channel in the future as well. It's very quickly becoming a consolidation of shit that I wish that as a compass, as a guiding tool, I suppose, in terms of direction, the happier I am with the content that's coming out. Hopefully, you feel the same. If you do or if you don't, let me know. At Chris Wellex on all social media platforms or head to YouTube and search modern wisdom podcast so that you can watch this episode and all of the others in beautiful 1080p quality with multi-camera setup as fantastically edited by video
Starting point is 00:01:36 guide Dean but for now it's time to answer some questions. Oh, and PS, if you notice in the background of the audio, a kind of low-level hum, sort of whistling noise, that is because my house was the hottest place on earth. And I'd have to bring a small desk fan in to cool us all down. I whilst Johnny at 120 kilos would have melted in front of us. So, hello again. Hi, hello there. Hi, and joined again by Johnny joined again by Johnny Newsif for properinfitness.com Newsif and Johnny. Newsif and Johnny indeed. And we are today doing our first ever Q&A episode. This wouldn't be possible without the valuable contributions from you guys. So I'll listen to the... I'll listen to the whole. I listen as a whole so yeah I
Starting point is 00:02:45 post it and so did you guys on our respective Instagrams asking for people to submit questions and we got really sensible questions. Some unsensible ones but interesting ones they were all interesting and we got I was being slightly facetious but 60. There are any mentions of Johnny's legs. There are actually. Yeah which is very refreshing. I wanted to ask myself any mentions of Johnny's legs? There are actually. Which is very refreshing. I wanted to ask myself a question why Johnny's legs so long ago. To ask yourself that.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah. I see. It's very interesting. Yeah, no. So we're going to do Q&A today. There's a couple that have been asked. What are? A couple of questions that people have requested
Starting point is 00:03:22 remain anonymous other than that. I think we can just, can I know who's anonymous fine for that but just say we doubt the user names use if you read again if we can mispronounce the user names as well don't mispronounce you so in a unit a just in an arabaxum for every user please. Is it the same person? It is. Really? The same person who's got the single unique username, which only exists for one person. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah, but I don't know what his Instagram handle is as strong as name it. It's moving on. First name. Moving on. The first question is going to be. Swiftly on. Do you mind if I... Dib and Dad or...
Starting point is 00:04:03 Okay. Can I straighten your hair no have you yeah you have straightened your hair you can I think it'll be a dramatic is what is your hair look like straight well I mean I used to have an afro I look like a girl with a beard I don't think that's true I, I looked like a girl with a beard. I don't think that's true. I looked a lot like a girl with a beard. The picture of you mid haircut, but it's slicks bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Oh yeah. That's what I was like. That's what I was like, straight. Video man Dean, if I can find it, we will put it somewhere. I think put it on top of Chris's face for the rest of the episode. If you are listening, you're missing out because we've got three camera angles here. Most of you will be on iTunes to Spotify or whatever else. But modern wisdom YouTube channel, you can see us in our slightly overheated glory.
Starting point is 00:04:55 If you're listening, this is probably just a very low level hum. Which is a fan because otherwise we would actually die of hearing. We would melt. We would see the glisten as well. The melt in front of us. Johnny is 120 kilos, so we're 130. Right. Okay. Do you track macros?
Starting point is 00:05:12 That's for all of us obviously. No. Not anymore. I do. Do you? We discussed this on a livestream the other day that we don't, because we graduated from needing to. Like years of tracking means that you build
Starting point is 00:05:26 enough momentum to not need to anymore. I also don't track. You can do it by feel. It's not fun for me to do them randomly. I'm going to do them in order from top. I do track. Why don't you do track? So, I've explained.
Starting point is 00:05:40 It's just too much effort for me. However, I'm about to start with Tim from We Dominate Nutrition. Okay. And I'm also going to be on Warrior Programming as of the next couple of weeks. And as a part of that, I will be twacking my clothes. I will be accountable. And if I don't, I will get shouted out of a guy who looks like Hitler's Wettering.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Oh yeah. I think if you aren't naturally absolutely like you two are. Really sickly. You should try macros. If you want to get lean. Yeah, I'll be honest. Oh yeah, it's an argument to do it regardless, to be honest. Well, next time I die, I am absolutely
Starting point is 00:06:22 in tracking macros. If you think that'll ever happen. Maybe not, like time I die, I am absolutely tracking macros. If you think that'll ever happen. Maybe not. But yeah, or if I start doing a 90 day push of focusing much more on physique, then yeah, like once things start to stall out, I think we take the approach of if something is working, don't fix it, and then the add-in,
Starting point is 00:06:40 the levels of accuracy that are necessary to do. The problem for me with tracking macros is I'm not naturally tremendously good. I've had to use the six minute diary is the only way I've ever been able to journal with a three minute commitment in the morning and a three minute commitment at night. Naturally, I'm not a fact and figures driven person. And the same way as if you are an unpassionate person in a job against someone who is passionate takes so much more motivation to compete for me to be able to do what other people do seamlessly.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Some people track their water intake, track everything. I struggle with that for some reason. Water intake, but you find with food. Well, what's the benefit to trucking your water intake? I don't know. Much easier to just get a 2D subottle on your desk and fill out. Well, just learn the principles and embed the habits after a while you don't even need Much easier to just get a 2D subotal on your desk and fill out. Well just learn, learn the, if you learn the principles and embed the habits after a while you don't even need to do them anymore. So moving on. I'd really, keep hearing what it did.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Can't and then, but what it was. It's a matter. Well, it's a tracking, nutrition, then, then you attack. It'll be really good. What do your daily routines look like at the moment? Who's that from? You're not putting, you're not doing the people who live from. You said don't read people out because I said there's only a couple of people who ask to be anonymous. How am I supposed to know who they're going to say? Everyone else are a baxon. Roger that. Jordan Ears. Jordan, by the way, is sending me reading lists on almost a weekly basis over email and they're all fantastic.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Same. Thanks a lot, but Jordan is. It's done the same thing. Jordan, appreciate it. Man, he's awesome. So, I've not seen any of these. Well, we'll link you in. How are you being sent through propanein bars? It's because you're not checking social media enough. Yeah. Instagram. I respond to people on privacy. There we go. That's that's that's that's that's that's what people so I don't have to do. What do our daily routines look like? Oh, pretty hell. Okay, I'll be as concise. I'll take the headlines as much as I can. So wake up.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Outside, so I'm doing some light exposure now, even if it's raining. So you're like, you're ready to organize something, aren't you? No. This is from Dr Greg Potter, who may or may not have been released on the Modern Wisdom YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I'm speechless. Is that iTunes? Either in the past or the future. Well, yeah, again, we've broken the fourth wall of the scheduling of my hands. You pushed it. I tipped it earlier. Yep, fine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So, um, like exposure, as soon as I get up, coffee, purge, water, sit down, meditate, journal, sorry journal, read, meditate, non of the while looking at my phone, then get up, prep my food if I need to prep, if not, I've got a food prep in company that's doing it for me, thank you very much for your nutrition, head to the gym, train, head to the office, work, come home, and then either my evening routine needs optimizing into our arm worst at the moment and it tends to be Netflix at the moment, chill out, and dialing back my double screening of phone and TV. And if not, I'll be at work or I'll be doing something social or potentially training twice if I've got it in. How about you guys, Yusuf?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Oh, train, come home, call Sharma, meditate. Get ready for hospital. Go in, come back. Get battered by the internet. It's not the biggest off-toy in here. And it must be the same thing. Get ready for hospital. I'll still feel the way you say. I've got to go to hospital. My initial reaction is, I'm really close to A&A. And it wasn't the same thing. You're really close. I still feel where you say, I've got a good hospital. My initial reaction is, I'm like, I'm already okay.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I'm never getting used to it. I'm off to graph. Yeah, that's good. You've got to share it on, put the name tag on, go to hospital, totally fine. Stand around at a hospital for a while, come home, work on various projects. And recently it's the bed time routine that's been the big thing for me. So yeah, so just trying to minimize screen time post 9pm is the biggest part of it that I have, which it's not even fun procrastination stuff,
Starting point is 00:10:37 it's like shitty admin that's just low level stress and keeps the mind momentum going before you go to sleep. So eliminating that red light, magnesium spray or ZMA or two things like magnesium spray, low back. Low back and bum. In and around my bum. Whole. Anus or bum. For some reason I thought the whole bum. Not the bum hole. the whole, like the whole bum, not the bum hole. Yeah. The bum as a whole. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I mean, that routine has collapsed this week, because my own. We've had a big push. Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? Like, your evening routine's so much fucking hard on you. Well, we were saying that the times that routine collapses and the self-care routines are the first things to go, even though they should be. They're most needed.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Exactly. It's when you're the most stressed that you meditate the least, which is exactly when a fucking need it. And then you just fall into the day. Tell us. Because you're the one that's going to be trialing something from Aubrey Marcus. Are you having a bow and a broth? To be honest, the book annoyed me quite a lot. It's a day by Aubrey Marcus. I think it leads you in thinking there's some decent suggestions here, like the hydration thing and the morning's interesting, the light exposure is interesting, and then it just already knows that you're throwing up in a book after letting another man have sex of your life.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And like, he argues the way he's running a massive private company in America is because he's just a type of incense in his office, and I'm sorry, I just don't buy stuff like that So my routine is It's a very similar. I do run one in the morning. Yep. I meditate in the morning I try and read or listen to something in the morning normally listen on audible I do something called the work by Byron Katie, which has been massively helpful. I keep trying to lend Chris the book, but he just doesn't want it. I journal in an Evernote file that's got over 200 entries in that now, just some interesting
Starting point is 00:12:39 reading. Nice. Well, let's try that. That's it. I've tried. I've tried. So actually, we've certainly been trying training later in the day. I'm not only just beginning to try training earlier. So I did training in the morning for six months, more or less. And it is good, but the trouble was just the amount of my... You get to this point, I don't know, you start work later and finish work later. I have this natural kind of Disruption to my day
Starting point is 00:13:08 From a work perspective because my girlfriend gets home the certain time like to continue working feels wrong Yeah, so I've got this like window where I've got to get out work done And the later I start the more so what you're saying is that if you go from get home you're working That's a problem, but if you go from get home and you're not home because you're at the gym If you go out front and get someone you're working, that's a problem. But if you go out front and get someone you're not at home because you're at the gym. It's fine. Well, so what have you been trying to do recently? We had a business coach probably a year ago.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And when I was talking to him about this, I was like, I always struggled to arrange these pieces in my days so that it's just kind of, I run into the fewest problems. He was just like, just stop working through PM. Yeah. And I told you about this. Parkinson's law just means that you just work in deadline. I've done it two days this week. I find it really, really difficult to do.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You start, do all those habits, start work, finish a 3pm. And lo and behold, on those days, got more work done. Yeah. And then go to gym, but you go to the gym at that time. And there's just loads of people that... More traffic. Busy a gym. So I'm still searching for optimal, the best time to train.
Starting point is 00:14:06 But the traffic's the problem, whereas I'm cycling 200 metres listening to audiobooks on five times speed. To be honest, the traffic's more... The traffic's in the gym, like the people in the gym has more problem, like getting a barbell, getting a space to squat a deadlift. And you're training in a gym, which is much more well-it's massive. But yeah, much better facility. I reckon doing it in order is gonna miss out
Starting point is 00:14:30 some of the real good ones because we're not gonna have time to go through everything. All right, do you want me to just use my- We'll go in order but then just skip the shit ones. Yeah, and then we can always come back and there. What's the largest animal? You could single-handedly cling film to a land post. It was a, sorry, Rob Ransom. I reckon I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Horse. No, fuck off. A horse. The horse's brains are like this big. They're not going to, I think if you can catch it in a... I think what you're talking about here is how dole-silasianic. Exactly. I'm imagining it's off the ground. Oh, see? Like, it's not imagining it's off the ground. Oh, see, like, yeah, because otherwise you just push anything up against a tree, right? Okay, so do that to a leopard. Oh, God. A leopard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's not even that large, a leopard, is it? Yeah, so try and do that to a leopard, see you're dead. Yeah. I see. Try and do that to an elephant and it's going to break through the cling film unless you can use like an industrial sized roll. Elephants, yeah. Like, I met one a few weeks ago and it, like, realized how.
Starting point is 00:15:24 How was it? I can met one a few weeks ago and it like realized how it was. They're really nice but they're just like if one's they're quite clumsy and if they're so big old heads. Big old heads. Two dimensional foot. Yeah. Okay. Single-handedly cling film to a lamppost.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Like, okay, if it can be on the ground, Panda. Panda, have you ever seen someone just trying to make a panda not roll down a hill? They're so naughty, they would not stay still at all. I think I could lure a panda into a position that would allow me to play some bamboo. Because what you'd have to do, stand with the... See, peel a bit off the ground film, grab it, throw the other bit over like, throw it round and then run round, catch it. And then it's going to get spooked with that, I think. Even though pandas are nice bear. What's really panda? Well, I mean, okay, how about this? Pandan. Blue whale. Blue whale. Yeah, fine.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Where's it going? I think it's more if it starts thrash. Like if a blue whale thrashes. I suppose there's a thing about like the when it flips its tail. If you're anywhere near, like the vibration can kill you. Under the water. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. We're not under massive. And if it starts flopping around it like a park actually a tree and there's you with your roll of the car and clean stuff. There's a lamppost. It is a lamppost. So what are they doing next to this tree? Well, I'm going to park. You're on a street with a blue whale, which for reference,
Starting point is 00:16:52 it'll be a big street. Yeah. Big street running for kilometers with a really big roll. Kilometers. Yeah, really big roll. Kilometers. All right. Well, I'm into rapid.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It's going to be close. Running inches and stones, everywhere. Okay, so I think that... Penguin, definitely do a penguin. Yeah, yeah. Well, the thing is they're going to have their... Extenses that are quads and they're just not going to be able to... Like how much power have they got in the thick yeah I think you could you could one hand I guess that yeah and then hand and just wrap it yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:17:31 cool okay yeah I like a penguin I think you go a bit bigger than a penguin maybe I think funniest animal that you could do is that would be something like a flamingo because it would just be it would just be its single head poking up and over, yeah. Yeah, Sloth. Because it moves Sloth. Sloth and Love has got very, very sharp. There are weird sounds. Sloth and Love has got very, very sharp.
Starting point is 00:17:53 There are weird sounds. You can talk to dogs for 60 seconds. What do you say? That's not what it said. Who's it for on as well? Andy Stokko. Andy Stokko. You can talk to dogos for 60 seconds.
Starting point is 00:18:04 What do you say? I was at because you write doggo on everything He does and we got it from each other got it. I have me chiller Andy I would ask Why do you sniff other dogs bones? Really and lick of the dog you've got 60 seconds. Okay, so the first thing I can ask Really and lick of the dog you've got 60 seconds. Okay, so the first thing I can ask 60 what if it goes well Chris is quite complex, so and then I'll go You see the ferrimental
Starting point is 00:18:45 Who which sort of a dog was we can I would I would ask it, are you aware of the concept of I? Hmm. Okay. What would you ask? I'd speak to the dog with psychomotor retardation that we've, we had a day with, and just say like, it's okay, my life is worth living. Yeah, we, we, we, mom, done. Alright, we went to, we went to look after a greyhound that was clinically depressed and had
Starting point is 00:19:14 psychomotor retardation, and we thought we would do something really nice for it, and it turned out that it just didn't want to live really did it, and we threw a ball towards it and it flinched. And, yeah, I'd like, I quite like to ask that dog what, what was wrong with it? and it turned out that it just didn't want to live really did it. It threw a ball towards it and it flinched. And yeah, I quite like to ask that dog what was wrong with it. What was going on? Yeah. I like to ask Andy's dog why it decided to eat half a kilo of rock a cow,
Starting point is 00:19:34 which is the amount of ingredient in chocolate that kills dogs. And would have been the equivalent of 18, 15 kilos of chocolate. And then it had to be taken to the vet. It would make itself sick. But it would be okay. Yeah, that's fine. Wow. I mean, to have such a big was okay. Yeah it's fine.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Wow I mean to have such a big poison dose. Yeah so there's a few that are directed at you stuff. So what's it like being J. J. J. J. J. J.
Starting point is 00:19:57 J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J.
Starting point is 00:20:05 J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J It's tough. I think sometimes I'm having to just beat people off with a stick. What do you mean by beat people off? It's actually not directed people off. That's very kind of you, but unfortunately the question wasn't just directed at me. Grace what was it like? What's it like?
Starting point is 00:20:26 That's fun. Best answer you could have given. Top tips for... So, Birch 3107 has asked top tips to get massive fall and caps doing CrossFit. Good question. It's not a pick of Birch, is it? No. Not the first of a man holding a log. Um, I would say tips for getting massive doing crossfit.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Just eat as you feel that you need to because the output that you're going to be doing is so much greater than you're used to. Let's say that in a typical session, like a typical bodybuilding, I've hit this session, your total wraps will be maybe a hundred, something like that, a hundred or 120. Okay. Like across all movements, across all wraps. Three sets of ten or four movements here. Yeah, so yeah, there you go. Whereas in a lot of CrossFit Chippers, which is where you've got multiple movements, you're going to be talking like upwards of 300 or 400. yeah, it's gonna be a lower your output's gonna be high Basically, and you're gonna be potentially training higher intensity is more frequently once or twice a day so just
Starting point is 00:21:35 Eat as much as you can if you want to get massive and if you want to use it to put on mass I would eat as much soaring as is possible. I would put soaring I would eat as much soaring as is possible. I would put soaring malt, malt the dexerin in your post workout shake. And I would have, I'd have a spoon full of honey with every meal. No, I wouldn't do that last one, that's a lie. Can you read the very bottom screenshot please, very bottom one? By DJ Slaki 80, no, very bottom one. By DJ Slackie, no, very bottom, the one about Tinder. Yeah. Wish I was in close proximity so I could match him up on Tinder.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And that was a screenshot of you, Johnny. That was indeed. Wish I was in close proximity so I could match the contender. Now what was in close proximity so that I can match on Tinder. Now, what was, I didn't put the name in. And what you can do for whoever it was that asked that question, Mr. Sheldon and anonymous, by Tinder Gold. And you can actually change your location. Find out where Johnny lives. Is that if you're going somewhere, like Iceland, for example,
Starting point is 00:22:42 that you can pre-drop yourself in a van. If you go into Iceland and you're in somewhere like Iceland for example that you can pre drop yourself if you go into Iceland you're an author orthology author author or an author or an author that's it there it is these are the birdies right what's next some cracking ones here where do you see yourself in five years. Johnny. Got to go for ideal scenario. Okay. Prope is massive. I'm massive. And loads of stuff in my life's massive.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Pious? That's fine as it is. Okay. I think if that's scaled at the same rate, you'd problemat it. Scale at the same rate as... Not only another relatively small penis, if everything else is not. Yeah exactly. Got it. The inner like a gorilla. So I'd like to improve multiple skills physically, more on that in a later episode. Maybe. Propane, great, enjoy doing it. Want it to continue grow, help more people.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Personally, I'd like to have explored meditation and self development a lot more. I wanna do at least one meditation retreat. So that's like, what else? So I can think I? That's cool, man. You said, like, to be a pair of long trousers, yeah, it's done to my ankles plus brooks.
Starting point is 00:24:12 My answer is probably very similar to yours, Johnny, so I'm not going to bore everyone. More brooping. More brooping, more brooks. And long trousers. I hope one day to be able to buy a pair of trousers that have them a whole legs, yeah, it'd be nice. You're gonna be a doctor, a doctor brope.
Starting point is 00:24:33 You are gonna be a doctor. I mean, you've had the very least you wanna be a doctor because you're almost a doctor now. Yeah, it's funny because now I'm being 80% doctor, but materially, doesn't like mix, to doctor's room. Yeah, and then just only when you're 100% doctor, then there's a body shift spiritually.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I think more retreats as well, spending three months of total time under retreat would be lovely. Under retreat. Under retreat. So intense. Five years is not that long though, is it to get to your life? Oh, man, it could be ups.
Starting point is 00:25:04 You've got to do what'd be looking at, what's the frequency of that? It's about 15 days a year, isn't it? So, or no? So it's more than one a year. Maybe, do it. Maybe. So, for me, at the moment, I'd quite like, voodoo to continue doing what it's doing. I think that there is a bit of a glass ceiling with regards to club nights and stuff like
Starting point is 00:25:24 that, and I think that we're kind of close to saturation. Newcastle City Council aren't granting any new licenses, the license premises and new castles. So because of them, they've finally stopped. They haven't done for as long as I can remember. So like literally five years of them. They're trying to curb binge drinking. Just don't want any new, not any more nightlife. They're okay with the volume of nightlife, they don't anymore. So we're restricted to Newcastle with regards to work. I would like to have competed in my foot and ideally won, but at least competed in my first CrossFit competition. That's a goal of mine over the next couple of years.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I would... That's separate to the open. Yeah. So compete in a CrossFit Cup like Glacier Games or Rainy Hill Trials, so the same as you go in when actual meet. Got it. CrossFit Cup like Glacier Games or Rainhill Trials, so the same as you're going to an actual meet. And then I would quite like Modern Wisdom YouTube channel to hit 100k subscribers I think within five years that's easily doable, that would in two years it should be doable. And continue, continue helping people with the
Starting point is 00:26:23 podcast because it's incredibly fulfilling to me and it's very new ground farming so every day that I get to do it's a bit of an adventure. All of us involve serving more people and growing more as people. Yep, for sure. Great. Where is your favourite place to be? Sophie Alachin. Sophia Alachin has asked that.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Where's my favourite place to be? To be probably embarrassing me in the gym. Okay. How's, how's to be home? Oh. Ah. It has to be home. Otherwise, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:26:57 If you're in a place that you don't like and there's a separate place that you like being. I'm assuming like you mean city or place as well. I think it's so for me when I read that question I immediately think of who's that you put your phone back on you put your phone off. Where are you going? It was about a four-off. That's not. It moved.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Is that subject recording as well? It has. Is that moment saying you've used too much screen time or something? No, no, it's a course, mother. Sorry, Johnny's mother. Anyway, what's next? Just read one. How would your life be different if you weren't on Love Island Chris?
Starting point is 00:27:45 I guess this question quite a lot actually I think this is duplicated a number of times who was it? Visson Asiri. Nice, well pronounced as well. Interesting question again it'll probably be quite unsatisfactory compared with what you think. I'm going to answer so it would be that I would be in a, my exposure would have been increased or something like that. You know, it's propelled me towards Stardom and stuff like that. Whereas quite to the country, as we learned on the Love Island podcast, it was the beginning of a little bit of a journey towards virtue because there was a difference between what I realised I was pretending to be and publicly was being in what I was with regards
Starting point is 00:28:29 to my own integrity and stuff like that. So yeah, I think I would have still arrived at this point of doing more introspective work and challenging my own assumptions and kind of turning over the rocks of your life for one of the better term and looking at what's underneath whether it's sort of good or bad. But I don't think that it would have happened as quickly, so for that I literally can't be any more grateful for the little violin experience because it was a kick at the ass that I needed. So you were on that trajectory, but it just catalyzed the process. It was a real line in the sound for you, I think, wasn't it? Yeah, very much so. Thoughts on drug use. So I'm trying to pick from different people.
Starting point is 00:29:17 But we'll do that one. Don't mind from the same person. Yeah, yes. Thoughts on drug use and lifting at a strong level, compared to the average Jim Goer from the same person. It turns out that you define as strong because some people like me and the average goer. I've benched 100 kilos time to get on the gear and some would consider... I think you're on to be separate questions.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Just to make the ability to get into each concept a bit more. As a strong level. So what are your thoughts compared to the average goer? What are your thoughts on drug use? Stereo use So what are your thoughts compared to the average India? What are your thoughts on drug use? Stero use, what do you think? If it's sanctioned in a sport then you can do it. I think as long as you are not competing in something that has a rule that says you shouldn't take drugs and you're saying I'm not taking drugs. Yeah my view is don't cheat in sports rather than do or don't take drugs. Yeah, that's a much better way of putting it.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah, I would agree as well. People can do, people can put into their own bodies, whatever they want. But yeah, you're gonna have to bear the consequence of that and the more niche drugs you put into your body, the fewer endocrinologists are gonna be able to, you know, it's Fox going on with you. I let, like, learn about what you're gonna do
Starting point is 00:30:24 before you do it. Do it sound to someone who knows. Yeah, cause there is a different language. Yeah, so just go on some Fox going on with you. I learn about what you're going to do before you do it. Or find someone who knows. Because it's a different language. It's just a world. Just go on some forum, find some pro scientists that you have no idea who he is. And just take their advice. It's one of those things.
Starting point is 00:30:35 You can get advice about stuff that has less dire consequences of people and you can go on like just colloquial, local, inexpert advice but really biology is one of those things you can't cheat too much. Like I wouldn't be fucking about with your hormonal system. Absolutely. So, absolutely. On the side, on the side of safety. I really think about what you're doing, before you do it. I think far too many people, people who've asked us, for advice and questions on this, have said like,
Starting point is 00:31:14 I just started blah, blah, blah. It's like this decision has permanent consequences. So you're not just sort of making a decision that might affect the next couple of months, it might affect the rest of your life, so give it the respect it's to you. Yeah. Um, lifting at a strong level compared to the average envy, are you right? They're probably willing to, aren't they? I don't think I think it's fine.
Starting point is 00:31:34 We've done that one on the next special. Um, What is the one book article podcast? What's the one book article podcast? You find yourself returning to the most by George McGill. It's for me, it's modern wisdom with Chris Williamson. Thank you. I've been returning to this house to record more of these fucking podcasts over and over again and then he brought this fan out and he keeps feeding me caffeinated drinks.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Mine is a it's a Tim Ferriss article and podcast called productivity advice for the manic depressive and crazy like me. the manic, depressive and crazy like me. And it's like 10 minutes long. And it's basically just something that we talk about all the time, which is like we everyone focuses on, everyone thinks that the people that they follow online are these pictures of efficiency, productivity and everything in their life is great. That's very ready to case. Harregone and virtue. Paragon. But the people who are getting loads of stuff done in their life typically are fantastic at prioritizing just focusing on one thing at a time. So as advice is like one thing to do every day, I just do that for two or three hours. As Dr. U and Lawson said on your desk is killing you, the podcast I did recently, multitasking
Starting point is 00:33:02 is for Muppets. But it feels like you're being more productive. The sensation of time passing accelerates when you're switching between tabs and doing things, you're like, oh, I'm lasting through this, but actually, terms of output is terrible. If you're doing A, B, C, D, as opposed to just A, A, A, A. Exactly what.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And then be exactly what Peter C Brown says and make it stick on a recent podcast, which may or may not have been published before this one as well, in the past or the future. Yeah. Focus. Focus. Yeah. I also like where this question has come from. What's the one thing that you find yourself
Starting point is 00:33:34 returning to the most? Yeah. Because I think it's very easy to read an article like the Manic Depressive Tim Ferris article. Oh my God, that's such good advice. Great. And then two weeks later, it's gotten it. It's forgotten it. And actually, and then you, that's such good advice. Great. And then two weeks later, if you've gotten it,
Starting point is 00:33:45 and actually, and then you keep searching for new information and new stuff, you're like, well, I found the answer. The solution is not in more information. It's in implementing the good advice already. And so, if you use Evan Noten, we'll discuss this in Lifehacks. Like, save something down, put it into your shortcuts,
Starting point is 00:34:01 set daily reminders for it, weekly reminders, and just keep it on the top of your screen. So what what yours? I've got, there's a few that I've condensed into that, so I've made it into a kind of bespoke thing that's kind of an amalgam from a bunch of, but Tim Ferriss is fantastic, like James Clear, pretty good. I can share my list of... There's not one article or something that you've read where you like that or a video that you keep in a specific thing, how to big impact on me or anything that I find like that. I put it into the propane. You like to condense and distil down, right? Yeah, so like at Propane, we are, yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:35 we're condenses and distilers of information and so like there are, we do that and so I suppose if you follow our podcast, it's very similar to Chris's and like it's the conversation of all of those. So for me unsurprisingly, Jordan Peterson has probably had the single, in terms of a thinker, the single biggest impact on me, the concept of taking responsibility and trying to shift the world as much towards good by being virtuous and enacting the log os as you can. And if it was a single video, it's one that we mentioned in the Relationships 101 podcast, which was Why Were Fated To Be Lonely by Alinda Bottom on The School of Life.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And I'll make sure that it's in the show notes below. I'll just search it on YouTube. Six minutes and it completely flipped my world view on how to judge the quote. It is both a blessing and a curse to feel everything so very deeply. It just turned in. It was a blessing for me. And the curse was a byproduct the same way that a light bulb gives off light light but it also gives off heat so yeah ten tips of financial success by Anton Creel. That's a good one. I categorically that it was on YouTube I remember the day was released I was driving to my job and I listened to it got out the car and was like I'm quitting my job. You sound a lot like a guy I'm just a real.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I'm just a real. Chris needed a accuser. Whoever commented on that, we were aware of Anton Creole, a big fans. Alan Watts, is it? Who said, Chris sounds like Alan Watts? No, no, no, no, the philosopher. Is that what he is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:20 There's a bit where he's talking about how to decide what you want to do. And it's like, what would you do if money was no object? You'd work through that example. That's also fantastic. Right, what's next? What do you think is the best thing you can add to the world or people around you by spark fit? Lardy L, use it. Lardy? It's the best thing that you can add to the world.
Starting point is 00:36:43 What can you give to the world? What are you contributing to the world? What can you give? What are you contributing to the world? Are they asking general or what you mean personally? You. So, as personally, it's everything we put across on propane, like helping people grow mentally, physically, spiritually, like being able to do that with the minimum effective dose. In general, it just depends on what you're calling, what the value that you can add to the people. I think we're talking about you.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah. There you go. I think just try to leave as many people as possible in a better place, like try and have a positive effect on the world. So that's really what we're trying to do. Yeah. Well, there's someone who took that and he, that was the advice that he got from his late grandad and he said, like, just anything you touch leave it in a better state than when you found it. So whether it's a bathroom or a person just always out of our view. And I think we just talked about relationships,
Starting point is 00:37:37 like I think in long term relationships, if you can do whatever you can to upgrade the person that you're with, and then you leave them with a legacy that's like after you've gone they've and you know you say have friends that want the best for you. Yeah, I think for me at the moment my what feels like a little bit of a calling is helping people to understand themselves because our online can be pretty vicious based sometimes and I think that this channel is quite swiftly becoming a portal for advice and things that I wish that I'd known 10
Starting point is 00:38:15 years ago and by being able to give that to people, remembering that my job is dealing with people who are exactly 10 years younger than me pretty much, So I'm practised in it and now I have the beginning of a platform to actually be able to, you know, there's an endless seven billion people that could potentially tap into this kind of advice. And yeah, expediting people from avoiding, expediting people's capacity to avoid pitfalls and achieve goals. How is love island? Ask Pete so forklift. Watch the fucking pussy. Yeah, I think all of the love island questions. The best thing is just go watch that podcast. Newcastle or Sandaland?
Starting point is 00:39:03 My dad's a macum and I'm from Middlesbrough. So, so Newcastle, Newcastle, yeah, there you go. There's one about, so, MV Hunter has asked for advice on getting a gym and a food routine after I'm even going overseas. You reported a good podcasting for us, right? Yeah, so, well, that,, so well, that was a lot. Get lean. Getting lean for summer. Getting back into a routine, I think don't think of your previous PBs as the things to shoot for, reset the standards and just start from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I think focusing on basics, so get up at the same time every day. Learn what your Macros target should be, ish. Learn what the meals are that you need to cook for those and then deal with that. Get yourself to the gym, get a good training split, whatever the methodology is, whether it be CrossFit, whether it be Strength Training, whether it be Bodybuilding, whether it be Yoga or Zumba or whatever it is, make sure that it's consistent aim to do it at least sort of three to five times a week. And enjoy, like if you enjoy your training methodology, everything else will fall into place because you'll need to eat to support it,
Starting point is 00:40:08 you'll need to sleep to support it, you'll want to perform as best as you can within that methodology and you'll want to train more, like I train two times a day sometimes and I don't, it doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like a labour to me, it feels like a love to me you want to do. I think the currency with success in this respect is the momentum you create by being consistent. So if you've been doing something as Chris Christus described for six months, you're in such a deep crevice that you create. Grease it, rude, right? Falling out of that, it's actually quite difficult to do.
Starting point is 00:40:42 It's harder to have a week where you completely mess up your nutrition and stuff. That's great. Exactly. The problem, what you're missing is that, so just fight to get that momentum back. Learn the route to the gym. Learn where the pots and pans are. All of the little minutiae contributes to making your day and awful easier. Another thing that we talk about a lot is stacking the deck in your favour. So if there's something that you want to do, if you want to go to
Starting point is 00:41:07 the gym, make sure that your gym kits folded in your bag before you go to bed at night. And then the next morning you just pick the bag up and it's ready to go. Like prep your food. If you don't, if for us the chicken the night before you can't cook it in the morning which means that you break your diet the next day. So we've got another podcast on that. Yeah, so make the easy decision, make the good decisions easy and the bad decisions hard. And then if you're diving and you don't want to eat cookies, don't buy cookies, don't have them in the house. There you go. Yeah, cool. Who would you got real Hazel James asks, who would you most like to interview? Oh, wow. Hazel, thank you very much. She is a fantastic romance author from America. And her husband is currently battling with PTSD and
Starting point is 00:41:45 alcoholism but is one year sober as of a couple of weeks ago so he's also congratulations lots of love to you and your husband. What do you think? Who do you want to sit down with? One person. So my initial... No, you can be one person okay I'm gonna say a relative so either either my dad's dad okay or just someone in my past like a great great great grandparent why I just did it a lot great yeah yeah yeah yeah I just think um so there's a there's a few stories about my dad's dad, well like you escape from a prisoner of war camp and stuff like this. Like nationalities?
Starting point is 00:42:31 British. Alright, well, he was in Wilburton in Africa, I believe, escaped from a prisoner of war camp and like trekked over mountains and stuff like that. Well, I saw a lot of awesome story, and he died when I was very young and we just loved it. I just think there's so many lessons from that. I think everyone defaults to a famous person, but actually interviewing, like, either on the other side or the other side,
Starting point is 00:43:01 someone who is generations before you, just understanding more about them will be really interesting. Yeah, that's cool. That's a really different answer, that's awesome. So I think you Hazel, Hazel James, I don't have to, but I guess that's a good, I didn't expect you to say that, but actually yeah, like if we were to say Anton Creole, Tim Faris, they've all been interviewed hundreds of times and so you've got a question so you can ask, like people have done that.
Starting point is 00:43:24 So yeah, boring answer again for me, but be my dad now like several years on seeing what you would have to say. That's cool. Yeah I think I'll break the trend it would be night so I basically my grandmother died when I was three or four so for me basically I have no, I have very very very very recollection of it but essentially like in terms of interaction, not, might not be, not. Would be nice to speak to her. I think sitting down with Marcus Aurelius as long as he was able to speak English, like that would be interesting. Well yeah like if the opportunity is like Buddha Jesus, Yeah, like if the opportunity is like Buddha Jesus Yeah, you know, I was out of all of them like Marcus Arabia's is
Starting point is 00:44:15 Military like commander who had a mindset that's lasted like two thousand years Yeah, so it'd be pretty cool to sit down with him. I think it's the source of like stoic thinking isn't it? one of the What you're laughing at just do it just One of the, what are you laughing at? Just do it. Just these are great. The problem with that situation, I would feel like, if I was put in front of Jesus or whatever, it would be thinking like, I've such, I've such a nine question.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm just a Jesus. I can sound back at this. Like if I'm the only person ever, that's why the chance I asked this person, I'm actually like, I'm supposed to Jesus. If he is, do you ask him this? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I'm just thinking if he was gluten intolerant. I was like, do you like what's your bench? Bread, because I like bread. You know what I was actually really interesting to see, go back to like the time when all the statues were created. And see if anyone actually was in as good a shape as a statue's in the line. And they weren't what they're doing. Like give me that praf. It's unburied. I bet it's gone extinct.
Starting point is 00:44:58 You know, I think it is Bob Broth, first thing in the morning. Bob Broth, any chance? I love this. You've got it. I bet it's a con exchange. It's not water. I think it is bone broth first thing in the morning. Bone broth. Bone broth. Any chance, correct. I love everything.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I love everything. You've got, how you've been excited about it? Rebs, it reps the jabs. Rebs, jabs. Says, any chance you fancy being my personal trainer, brackets, and I mean that in every sense of the word personal, winky face. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Rebs, jabs. This has got to be either a yes or no, I'm unqualified to know. Great answer. What's the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to you, Kishek, Kishek, by Jessica Tyler Taylor. Okay. During intercourse with a lady, she began to say the sentence, spit on and got to the M in M, I thought that she meant me as in her spit on me, at which point like a loaded gun I unloaded full mouth and saliva onto her face. She quietly wiped it off and said I met my fingers. I apologized laughed and then continued. That's up there. It's a bit on...
Starting point is 00:46:19 It's a bit on... I'm really sorry. There's some velocity as well. you guys know this already which is dropping losing 23 grand in a period of about 10 minutes. The full story of that is on another podcast. No we never recorded it. We will do life. We do life, life fails never went mine. Yeah life fails will come back. But why didn't it go down? We don't finish it. We never finished it. we got cough. Okay, fine, we've got it. It lost 23 grand trade in the life of resorts. In how long?
Starting point is 00:46:49 We'll have to be in a rough and tough period. What? No. You lose your personal life. It loses, you lose about six weeks of your life every time. It's the prospect of something that's been done, not being used. It's absolutely unacceptable. Mine's really mundane. A lot of you. So this was when I was in the accountant, early in my career, probably the first two or three
Starting point is 00:47:13 weeks. The way the day he panned out was, I used to train in my garage in the morning, so I'm in my garage squatting, and really hard set. So the only time it's ever happened to me my nose was completely popped So like blood showing like that mid rep. I spat the blood all over the garage So like you like pretty intense morning like pretty pretty fragile Get to work walking very sort of fabricated office environment very bright lights very sort of fabricated office environment, very bright lights. Like, you know, like 10 minutes ago, I'm bleeding all over the garage and now I'm here, sit down and as I sat down, just heard the entire gusset my trousers just go, and you're like, I'm in this office in Team Valley, auditing this company thinking,
Starting point is 00:47:58 I've got the entire day to just deal with this. And so I ended up the way I dealt with it because it went all the way up the back of my us. So you think this is quite a lot from the probably from the Scott I just walked around my jacket on the whole day and like trying to do it for the best. Yeah, just a little bit of posterior posterior to it. It's not embarrassing but like that kind of like high-priced or awkward like nasty. That reminds me of a very similar thing which would some That reminds me of a very similar thing, which would some, france-quoting in the gym. And then, went to the bathroom,
Starting point is 00:48:30 came back, finished my session, left. And then realised that I was wearing swimming shorts for some reason, I must have not had my kit available. And it's one of those flies that doesn't, flaps open. Yeah, it just flaps open and I had full penis art for I don't know how long I've been sitting so into the toilet for an hour afterwards walking around. Does the story you get put on the register? You're on the register. Well, I suppose you might not know. Right, so there's a question
Starting point is 00:49:00 here, I'm not going to say the person because I think that's what they mean. How do I lose weight and then in bracket please don't post this. I presume that you mean please don't say who posted this as opposed to please don't post this. That is the case then the question was completely the name wasn't it? How do I lose weight? Calorie fucking deficit made. Listen to the Get Lean for Summer podcast or just go to propin fitness.com forward slash Calculate calculator. That's it. That's where we begin. Let's see some quick fire ones. What is your favorite non-alcoholic beverage? Coffee. Yeah. Oh yeah. I was going to start the thing like, then turn to like coffee. Absolutely coffee. No, I've just bought a blender and I've been making blueberry pineapple and
Starting point is 00:49:44 parma violet smoothie. Really nice. This is him doing green smoothies. The scooby-weigh parma violet. What is your second favourite animal? Donkey. With it. That's not an animal.
Starting point is 00:50:00 With it's not an animal. That's a dog. Okay. What's your first favourite animal? Tources. No, it's not. I'll try it. Wip it's not an answer dog. Okay. Once you go further on in it. Tources. No, it's not. I'll try it out. You just can't be dog with it. That's what it wasn't what it was. You don't think, you know that we're getting that we're getting us these questions and no ones, the integrity of our answers for the most part does not a whole lot of pressure
Starting point is 00:50:24 on, but it feels like there not a whole lot of pressure on, but it feels like there's an awful lot of pressure on. I'm gonna get this right, yeah. What's your second favorite? Any other draw? Draft? I was just thinking about what I thought. Yeah, but either. How do I know?
Starting point is 00:50:35 Well, that's it, like I thought. Is it even now? Is it at the moment? No, right, it's not what it's at. It's because to say like dog, is it such a lame answer? That's hot. Yeah, give me to remove on Right, okay, what's yours second favorite animal? Yeah It's a donkey isn't it yeah, it's a
Starting point is 00:50:59 There's an Egyptian zoo that has recently been rumbled for painting a donkey like a zebra Wow, very just hoping for the real entrepreneurs. But such an Egyptian thing to do with cutting corners. This is a really good one. What do you think are the most attractive qualities a girl can have? Official tira tucker. What do you think are the most attractive qualities a girl can have so we've just recently done a podcast on relationships where I say about women laying down hurdles for men and for me personally it's been kept on my toes as soon as as soon as you know that you've got a girl there's there's the challenge and the back and forth and the excitement.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Like, for me, it's been kept on my toes. Sounds a few more. Not taking this off too seriously and being motivated towards something. Nice. Being motivated to achieve something. Nice. Yeah, well, very good. Productivity, so the lack of complacency,
Starting point is 00:52:06 not resting on your laurels for any of your existing equalities and just making an effort. There's always pushing that well. Always pushing your wills. That is a fucking good framework for being a girl there. Or a guy, actually, to be honest. Would you ever have a girl's and guys? Yeah, well, they're not taking itself seriously as huge.
Starting point is 00:52:26 If you have someone who makes you invisible. Not chasing or not being reliant on public opinion, not speaking of line on validation is like a big part of that as well. You go as the enemy obstacles the way. Right, holiday. I mean, would you ever date a guy if you fancived them? Well, yeah, if I fan them, like, by definition. I suppose, yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:52:49 But would you eat a guy? Would I eat a guy? Would you eat a guy? Would you date a guy if you fancy them? Because there's going to be social stigma, there's going to be a bunch of other things. I think so. Okay, so I think you'd have to leave your girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:53:00 The question is, if I felt like I was gay, would I perceive that avenue? No. Surely that is the question No, if you fancy a guy, but I'm not gay, would you date them? I think to be like it's 2018 now like to be able to To be afraid of pursuing a man that I fancy I think so I think so I think so I think so I think so I think so I think so I think so let's re-frame the question
Starting point is 00:53:22 Okay, so you're in the relationship you currently in you need to girl that you find attractive and you fancy. Okay. Do you date her? No. So that's why I'm saying. I see. So you're saying within the current constraints? Yeah. So I'm the only one in this. So you don't let single. So yeah, like give me some dick. So you want some dick? Give me some. Just that man's dick. So there's two questions that are side by side. I can organise you some dick. I then would we could cross or it's cross or something. We can just have some dick. I don't want one. I can hear you.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I don't want my lips. This is in box just. I don't want multiple dicks. I'm not, I'm not. You can have one. Yeah, there's only one offer for a dick. You only have one to choose from. You need to have some options.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I, I haven't had one. And I feel like opening up with like, what's the sampler? Yeah. Like getting like a whole fucking hot dog factory of them. Yeah, it's gonna be a You want like an anti-pastie platter don't you? The tribe? Yeah, you have to wonder if I've learned it I want to cocktail sausage to begin with there's two questions side by side here Would you ever go back on love Island and if you could do love Island again, would you?
Starting point is 00:54:20 Um Right now, yes, I would because I'll be set for life and I would get a million followers and that would allow me to pursue this interest without diluting it or convoluting it or doing anything like that. It's just a platform now. What about the potential social, emotional fallout? Wouldn't be any. I'm as robust as I've ever been right now. Okay. First you've done it once and you were okay. Like it was boring at times but. So what is something that had connected you with a partner at a deeper level? SS-Harkfit. I think going through any kind of collective tragedy with someone or like any
Starting point is 00:55:07 adversity always brings you closer together. Well, can contest it and might not, but it's it I think you don't know what quality someone is until you've been through thick and thin with them. So I mean the brawl you said for my close together was when we tried to sell our first ever ebook online I think I was going to Iceland brought us together as a three shim dorms. I think the I think collectively like we managed to find fun amongst persistent overwhelming adversity extreme temperature You said made me an egg Had skier late at night. Yeah, well several times for me. It's probably MDMA like I'm doing a MDMA, okay, if you with a That's the most like reliable way to engineer a
Starting point is 00:55:59 Dependent you need someone isn't it yeah take MDMA get them to MDMA, sit in a room and look at them and do them in pretty boundless love. Yeah. If you want to do it without the MDMA, there's lots of, so look at David Dada, the way of the superior man and his counterpart exercises, there's a lot of partner exercises where you sit, opposite your partner, and look into their eyes for a long period and you breathe with them, one breathes in, the other breathes out and then like a two-way meditation. Sort of. And then you say out of ten, how present you feel with them and they say how present
Starting point is 00:56:34 you feel with you. And when it starts to drop, you know, you say out four, three, seven, eight, nine and you just do that for... David Dada, where the superior man and his partner exercise are they in the book? Yeah, they're actually fantastic. I really want to try them. I'm very grateful that the person I'm with is up for that. It's just like, that's weird. Like I'm not doing that. That's cool, man.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Pretty cool one here. What is everyone's short-term training goals? What total regional competition, just a physique goal, question mark, all from anabolic ODolic O.D. Great, you say? Annabolic O.D. 700 kilo total, 105 kilo class at nationals 2018, weighing 100 kilos or less.
Starting point is 00:57:16 But you're in the 105's. Yeah, but I want to, if I'm 100 kilos or less, I'll hit a PB Wilks. Nice. Yep. Discarnation rehab, tumbling and handstand goals, like get quark or quark to quark. That's the one like a spinny flip. Spinny flip. Well remember, yeah, quark is really fucking cool. Yeah, but yeah, at the moment, just
Starting point is 00:57:42 have a trophy. What's the thing? Is there like, I'd love to deadlift 700 pounds? Is there like an all-time pinnacle that people, like gymnastics version? The 700 pounds equivalent is probably. I'm cross. Double cork. Oh, yeah, gymnastics is, yeah, I'm cross,
Starting point is 00:57:59 like a strength or something like that. Okay, I just mean like in the community, what's fun? The 720? Double backtucks. Yeah, something like that. Okay, I just mean like in the community, what's on fire? Double backtucks. So something like a 720, like where the more spins and then like only few people on earth have ever done a triple core, come in like one guy's done a quadruple. But he's like tiny, he's like 55 kilos and just the perfect. All in one.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah, just run, big run up. I think he does a couple of like pre things and just yeah, yeah, they they they're just so good at delaying the the spin until they're right at the top of the the the and then they just have that thing and then they raise their centrality and just get really tired. It's just like why don't you do loads of ring stuff? I'm just not strong enough at all. But like which is different. You're going to be heavy as well, I guess. Yeah, like 150 bench and I'm absolutely pissed poor at rings. It's crazy how like, I got 150 bench. Yeah, I was fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I did it with you, won the little... Yeah, pinnacle. Yeah, shit, so you did. A little record for the... So as a very, very brief segue here, we went into a gym in Brunswick Park, just above Gossworth in Newcastle. I took Johnny and Yusuf in there, on the board in there with these kind of like West Sidebar
Starting point is 00:59:08 Bell style, way-standing like, break-holes, like overhead press, bench press, squats, so on and so forth, and you move through I think all three of the lifts from Powerlifting, squat benchch and Deadlift for reps and reps higher 1-Ret Max's that were on there. I think you did for 5. I think for 5 you deadlifted more than 40 nights. So I think as part of my session that day I took the 1-Ret Max for my weight class. You benched 1-50 for the first time.
Starting point is 00:59:39 You smashed the record didn't you? Yeah, exactly 1-35. Yeah. Yeah. For me, at the moment, immediately rehab back, make myself much more robust, much more robust to injury. And then, yet, within the next couple of years, I want to compete at a Rx cross a cup. Do you have the goal of regionals? I have no idea how... I think it's sort of a target, but I think...
Starting point is 01:00:11 Shy of me, tacking myself onto a team and basically bringing them down. I need... It's the beginning of a salesman's career and saying, I want to be the CEO, like you just don't know how good you can be at right ball. And at the moment, I don't know how good I can be. So yeah, for me, CrossFitComp become competitive locally and then see where we go from there. What is one thing that if you could dial it up? So like,
Starting point is 01:00:37 there's a series of skills in CrossFit. If I said to you, Chris, I have the mixing table, mixing table. I have the series of dials. I can turn at one of those abilities. Which of those do you think is such a weakness, if it was other way to it, would really bring up your skills? For me, endurance. Endurance. Yeah. So that was 10x.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I can be sufficiently strong already because of my background. I'm not stronger really than anyone, but I'm in the mix with that, but I lag behind an endurance. True, actually 10x endurance would just mean. Like it could go away. Because it's the foundation, the endurance is the foundation for everything, because if you had the work capacity, the strength would be irrelevant, because top-end strength is never used in CrossFit, except for actually in the games, which will have been by the time that this has gone, but the CrossFit talk was going to be one of the comps in there but it's very rare. Most of the time it's an ascending... it's like a La Clean Ladder with Ring Muslots in between and the
Starting point is 01:01:32 reason that the Scott Clean Ladder's hard is because you're fatigued so if endurance was there you would be fine. Here's a pretty cool one. When did you first get into mindfulness and looking after your mental state and why. It was something that you have said to me, which was that you... it was the idea of having no attachments, having no external attachments was the path to like no suffering and being it piece. It's what Sam Harris says isn't it, that for years and years contemplatives have used isolation as a route to discover whether or not happiness can be found in isolation of external factors and for most people solitary confinement is considered the worst punishment in the world
Starting point is 01:02:24 but these people have found solace in that. Yeah. I mean, it's like, right, about a bunch of that. Yeah, you're right, yeah. Like, no attachments, no versions means that you've got ultimate freedom to, like, there's no self-defense. You're not the mercy of anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Like, if you equate, it's the idea that if you have this circuit of desire, chase the desire, fulfill the desire, happy for a moment because the mind is quiet on the fulfill of that desire. And then a new desire comes up, oh, you repeat that cycle, whereas if you were to short the circuit that whole process eliminate the desire,
Starting point is 01:02:57 which you can do consciously through repetition, then you've got the quieting of the mind without having to go through that big loop and chase the desire and fulfill it. And then you've just got quieting of the mind without having to go through that big loop and chase the desire and fulfill it. And then you've just got a lot from the beginning. Can't be full film. Yeah, and the things you say about feelings from your retreat unsatisfactoriness. Oh, so the Buddhist approach is, everything is a Nietzsche, Anata and suka. I think so. Impermanence. Everything is impermanent, unsatisfactory
Starting point is 01:03:31 and non-self in its qualities. And so the sooner that you can teach your nervous system about, not just consciously but at a deep level, then you don't attach to anything and you can just let experiences flow through you without having to grasp or push away. So that's everything both good and bad is temporary and never enough. Yeah. Then as long as you can. So it was, it was.
Starting point is 01:03:58 So the reps of that are just like a lot of reinforced things to flow through. So I think like realizing that your entire life you're going through this material externally validated and motivated approach to try and feel happy. I think that's really what everyone's trying to do at some level. And the way you explain it, once you hear it like that, you're like, oh, actually, it's kind of pointless to have all this time that's going to pass regardless. And not at least try and work on the thing that is
Starting point is 01:04:27 the most valuable thing. You think the thing that is actually perceiving all of this, all of it, the interface between the exterior. And I think one of the ways that we stay in this hamster wheel is that our mind convinces ourselves that if we were to suddenly detach from all desire and attachment and aversion, we'd become this log that would just, yeah, but if anything, if you see people that are frequent meditators there, the most vibrant and enthusiastic and fully engaged people, because they're able to just dive in with both feet and not have to.
Starting point is 01:04:58 So I did take 10, that's why. Take 10. Take 10. Hands in the arms. Down to the legs. So yeah, I think I had a couple of periods of, naturally I'm quite a depressive person. I think my native state is to be on the depressed side of things. So I don't tend to look at the positives naturally. I'm the same. And I find it's easier to fault states. I don't know. look at the positives naturally. I'm the same.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And it's easy to fault states. Yeah, like your native state isn't it? Okay, sorry, different states should I say. So something happens, do you catastrophise and think the worst? Very much so. Very, very much so and that's, that was reinforced a lot through work. So the business that I may have club nights is inherently very, it's very changeable and it is at the mercy of market forces and the whims of customers who are the most fickle
Starting point is 01:05:57 bastards on the planet. And what that leads to is this kind of low level anxiety that's constantly going and it's just it's... Yeah, I struggled to do what you did. It reinforced thought patterns that were already default for me. And just like through sheer fucking brute force, I think being around you to make a really big difference for me, doing the podcasts has been like, I say it all the time, it's like therapy for me. It's really helpful because I feel like the three of us have very different sticking points in our growth.
Starting point is 01:06:33 And I think seeing someone who's like, got a clear channel in one of those other ones is really useful to... Yeah, we feel, I think with regards to to each other we fill in a lot of the gaps that all of us have and there's one of the rules that we all of us cite to each other a lot is John Peterson's Be Friends with People Who Want The Best For You and what's interesting with that is Be Friends with People Who Want The Best For You isn't Be Friends With People Who Tell You What You Want To Hear so as a really really good example Johnny was working on some new content for Propane about a month or a couple of months ago. He'd worked on it for quite a while.
Starting point is 01:07:06 He sent the video into me and Yusuf and my reply to him, I knew that he'd worked really hard and I knew that it was good, but my response to him immediately was, yeah, mate, that's good, but being frank, like, it's nowhere near as good as you could be. Like, I know how good you can make this content, and I your response used to be something similar. And you said, it was just like, it's fucking shit, really doing. You're an asshole, please, can we split the business up? Yeah, no, no, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:07:33 And you went away and I think, I don't know whether you knew that in advance, but you went away and you came back. And the next time you did it, you absolutely fucking smashed it. And it was amazing. And I was like, that's being friends with people who want the best for you, the same way as the young child wants the sweets, but the sweets aren't good for it, giving you the vegetables is
Starting point is 01:07:52 what it needs, giving it the sweets is what it wants, but that's not necessarily what it needs, and then being friends with people who want the best for you, it's people who aren't just waiting to tell you about them and tell you what's happening for them and like actually. Yeah, but actually, well, having this morning. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You ask for advice and someone sits and thinks about it, thinks about you and gives you advice
Starting point is 01:08:16 that is relevant for you in their opinion. Yeah. So I think, for me, it was having a series of pretty tough depressive episodes like not being able to get out of bed, just refusing to get out of bed. One of the problems with me and with work is that because I don't have a boss, I'm never culpable to anybody. And what that means is that I can always make an excuse about why I'm not in work. It means that I can either, by being truthful or by lying, I can always get out of having to do things that mean I need to leave the house. So, and that to me just, it didn't make me feel good.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Like, I didn't feel proud of myself and I didn't think, like, that is this what my fucking life turned out to be. Like, I don't want to leave bed because of some thought pattern. Like nothing has really actually gone wrong in the grand seagull scheme of things. Recently I sat down with a guy who elected to chop one of his legs off. After being hit with five IUDs and losing his best mate and to come under in Iraq. You know what I mean? Put it in context. Yeah, it does, but you need the tools. You have to have the tools to be able to deal with these sort of things. And I think that it was sheer brute force, is the only, the thing that I keep coming back to, and the reason I say brute force is I
Starting point is 01:09:29 force fed myself content, which made my life better. So reading and listening to people like Jordan Peterson, Tim Ferris, you know Sam Harris, all of these guys who spoke a language which I understood. The School of Life YouTube channel is a huge influence. So that's my why. And then, you know, as we've just said there, like I think we make us three make, or make each other's lives better, like a genuine leave would, I'd be fucked, like if it wasn't for the fact that we have each other privately and publicly as well. And, you know, we don't let each other off the hook with things, we don't, we hold each other accountable as well if someone's being inconsistently things or if someone needs support with things. That's the best thing that you can do for someone. And it's the same principle you said that
Starting point is 01:10:18 you should do if you are a woman or a man, you know, like starting a relationship with dating someone is to hold them to those high standards and don't settle for anything less for both of your sakes. Really like it. Yeah, very much so. There's a couple of the violent you want to hear, so I'll get them through. Have you been watching this season of Love Island? If yes, thoughts on scripted filming from Vission Asiri? I watched the first week and then I was in America for a bit and then I added my friend
Starting point is 01:10:46 left. So I have a massive sample to work with. There's been some accusations thrown around about scripting because they did a match in action. What's called a match in action in cinematography is where something will start off on one side and then they'll flip to another camera angle and continue the scene. And someone noticed that in one scene, two separate couples kiss at the same time and in a different scene they're kissed separately in the match. And listen to the live island podcast that goes back to that. As I say in that, the dates are much more heavily produced. This is because they don't have set up camera angles. It's quite likely that that might have even been the same camera. That wouldn't have been happening at the same
Starting point is 01:11:27 time. Right guys, we've got that. Can you sit back down please? We're just going to get you kiss again. It's like they asked them to kiss again and say goodbye. It wasn't like it wasn't some crux of the story. It wasn't that someone was about to reveal their loved someone and they told them to shut the fuck up. It's probably the necessary work, can you do that, isn't it? To create a plot when you've got people in there anyway that don't work. I said this and this is, you know, anyone who's concerned about whether on a level of island is scripted or not, you can come back to this, which is about as close to safety latches you can get, which is the people that are in there have not had media
Starting point is 01:12:01 training. I can promise you they haven't had media training. You get Stephanie 18 from Bolton and drop her in the middle of Mallorca and say, right, so Alex has just told you that he loves you, but we didn't quite get that. Can you just do that reaction again? She's gonna have a meltdown. She's not gonna be able to do that. She doesn't have that in her capabilities.
Starting point is 01:12:20 So just, what's that thingy's razor? I'll come to razor. I can't raise it. I can raise it. The simplest explanation is often the correct one. There you go. Have you found it harder to find someone that's genuinely in it for you and not because of love island? So I kind of get this similar sort of question, a lot. And I think that people are overestimating the level of fame that particularly I got out of my season. The early seasons of Love Island people are not considered celebrities anymore and being frank like after one year lapsed outside of Love Island, no one gives a fuck anymore. Like everyone's
Starting point is 01:12:57 only concerned about the most recent ones. The only way that you can still be relevant is if you do what Chris and Ken have done, which is forced yourself down the throat to the people create something else by continuing to make yourself relevant. I'm suppose that for a short period of time, given this platform, and it's like, there you go, do something with it, or it'll, it'll expire. And if it expires them, could you do a podcast in regards to tips for the gym if you haven't already from Sofia Larkin? I'm not sure if you've, I don't know how long you followed this for Sofia but I'll go back with some of those podcasts, listen to the ProPimp podcast.
Starting point is 01:13:36 There are 120 episodes on the ProPimp Fitness podcast and the clue is in the name. Some of them are on fitness. Genuinely, the best resource on fitness that we know of, otherwise we would have created it. So what we did, so yeah, one another question from M would any advice on getting back to training after illness? Good question. Yeah, so I've got a series on this called Project Swole that was directed specifically
Starting point is 01:14:02 towards regaining muscle mass after having it on this. But yeah, but the same thing applies like same principles. So watch those series of videos. It goes over how I was admitted to hospital for seven days within infection on a background of a six-week, just multiple series of sequence of infections. I'm not signed in you, sir. I'll just going to propanefitness.com. There's a lovely new live search bar. So just start tapping project swall. And I'll find them there.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Or what would the URL be? It'll be propanefitness.com forward slash project swall. The video guide team will make it appear magically on the screen somewhere. We have totally missed one screenshot at the bottom and there's some absolute belt design here. What do you need to do to reduce belly fat from Latte far? As far as I'm aware, there is absolutely no research
Starting point is 01:14:56 which says that you can spot reduce fat. The best analogy that I've heard is doing crunches to reduce this is like scooping the corner of a swimming pool to try and get rid of this bit of water. So it's like that that's exactly how it is and for losing fat in general, again go back and check. Calorie fucking deficit. Yeah well listen to the getting the in for summer podcast. Just eat exercise more than you eat. In terms of calorie content and energy. There you go. Chris, I used a super like on you on Tinder,
Starting point is 01:15:28 where's my chanspoop? Can't pronounce that. That's where they're going wrong. Yeah, I'm a bit username. If you do, technically. I'm afraid, as I explained on a hacker in your pocket, I'm trying to reduce my smartphone time, which included removing Tinder.
Starting point is 01:15:46 One piece of life advice from each of you that you would give to my 17-year-old son from Jim Facker. Jim Facker. Good Lord. That is a really good fucking question. Good God. At 17 years old So do you want me to start? Yes decide on a three-year goal in each of the four quadrants of your life So this is not my framework. This is from a few people that's been adapted, but body Being balanced and business. So business business could, body, physical goal, whether it's physique or sport or whatever, being spiritual, pursuit,
Starting point is 01:16:31 whether it's prayer, meditation, anything on that, introspective, in that society, the introspective, any self-growth, emotional processing, balance, time with your family and friends, and business is maybe a career prospect, studies, any of that stuff So just have something in each of those four quadrants in three years and then
Starting point is 01:16:53 Divide that back into one of the weekly targets and the daily habits that I need to do to keep me moving towards that And by the time you're 21, you'll be an absolute monster. Yeah, Johnny two things first And by the time you're 21, you'll be an absolute monster. Lasted. Yeah, Johnny. Two things. First, set some time aside every day to read something or listen to a book. So I think it's... I think it's the easiest way to just expand your thinking, improve your vocabulary, improve your understanding of a range of topics. Like I would pick books in different areas
Starting point is 01:17:27 and just accumulate knowledge because if you install it, I have it. By the time you're 21, you little bit in so much that your friends won't have. Second one is try and be mindful or aware of your ego in situations and how it can influence What how you react and what you do because I think it leads to a lot of Like knee-jerk reactions
Starting point is 01:17:53 What is the word? I think both of those are fantastic and probably lead on from what I would have said If there's someone who's 17 just If it was me, I would focus on being as truthful and honest as I can and that's with everybody, from myself to the people around me. And the ego thing is totally, totally true. There's this lovely quote from Eckhart Tolley, where he, in the power of now, where he talks about
Starting point is 01:18:21 when you have a conversation with someone and they defending a position even though they know that it's wrong and the reason that they're so terrified of admitting that it's wrong is because that admission is tantamount to destruction. Yep. And the removal of the ego removes your attachment to that element of you and as soon as you can do that you can pass it for growth. Just goes through the roof. Instead you've got this basil digging the heels in because of the fear of death. Yeah, fear of what it's done. That's such a huge thing. Like allowing yourself to be wrong and embracing being wrong and like actually to a degree, desiring being proven to be wrong
Starting point is 01:19:01 is it's great, it's a lovely feeling. Especially when you're 17 and I think you're already feeling... You're going to be wrong more than you're going to be. You're not stable in your character or anything so you want to try and get a footing and dig things in even if it's not correct. There's an idea of if you approach a discussion at open with your opinion, you immediately reduce the amount you could have learned from that situation by allowing someone else to give their unfiltered opinion. If you aim and we're all so eager to be right, that comes back to turning conversations in the tennis matches, doesn't it? You wait for someone to finish so that it's your turn
Starting point is 01:19:39 to hit the ball. If you aim to speak about half as much as you listen, I think that's probably a pretty good rule of thumb. That's why we've got two years and one mouth. hit the ball. If you aim to speak about half as much as you listen, I think that's probably a pretty good rule of thumb. That's why we've got two ears and one mouth. There you go. Do you remember meeting me at Universal Studios, René Huesca? Yes, I do. It was very nice to meet you. René she was the one person in America that asked for a photo with me. Oh, no. Love Island sees the mom was on a hulu. On hulu. Hulu. Do you keep in contact with anyone you were in the villa with from XOX Gemma XOX? Yes, we've got all the guys on WhatsApp and do keep in touch whenever I see anything relevant. I probably speak to John Clark and Max the most Max is still doing pretty good. I think you might be moving away actually John Clark's mashing it on Tauy
Starting point is 01:20:22 Joshua Chishagging Shal across B so fair play. Jordan Ring is just being massive. Advice for an 18-year-old wanting to go to the games, hashtag it's gonna happen, underscore the underscore, hoi underscore. Get yourself a good programmer, worry a programmer, it's fantastic. Get someone who does your program and gets someone who does your nutrition, set a long-term goal. Don't aim to go to the games in two years time, aim to be at the games when you're 23 or 25. It's not the same now as when Rich Fronin and Josh Bridges and even like people at tier-right and Brookwells and people like that, it's not the same as it was when they were. The caliber of people,
Starting point is 01:21:05 and any thurist order went and did the games, people were still doing keeping muscle ups as opposed to butterfly, because that was the level of advancement, and there was so many more, it was so much less refined, and the level of competition was so lower. It is, like, from the outside working in, it still may look like the equivalent
Starting point is 01:21:24 of a cottage industry but it is a fully, it's half a mill when you win now. That's the prize money this year and the 2018 CrossFit Games and Matt Fraser will be for the rest of his, like he's just bought a plot of land that's got eight acres on it and has like a barn that's about two acres. I mentioned the prize money is like the tip of the iceberg for what they get to the sponsor ship and Yeah, it's the ones and all that so it's the quote from Tony Robbins like everyone
Starting point is 01:21:52 Overestimates what they can accomplish in a year, but under estimates what they can accomplish in a decade So yeah, as you said like Aim for it. It comes back to, what did we say about being 17? Set yourself a long-term goal, break it down day by day, and make yourself externally accountable. If you're 18, being frank, your capacity to have perspective is almost zero up to zero. Oh, man, one more thing for the 17 as well.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Looking back, the amount of, I think, hold yourself to higher standards than your immediate peer group. Yeah, 17 year olds are fucking idiots. Because I did a, my first degree with maths and business and a lot of the people on the degree were absolutely waste men and because I was smudging it in relative terms, I thought oh, no. Yeah, but actually like my work ethic and my like actual output was so low.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Hang around with some older people. Hang around with some people that are three years older than you five years older than you just get what you can from the people you can from them. Or like find people you admire online. I think that's something. Contact them, listen to podcasts. Yeah. For Schum content. I don't feel like that existed when I was 17. Definitely not. But like the number of people you can listen to and just like hours and hours, years of content online from people who are really impressive people. I I'll just just say before we move on, I feel like 18 to 28 for me,
Starting point is 01:23:12 ages, like absolutely ages, so much has happened, but I feel like I'll be 38 before I know what's happened. Yeah, I feel like a blinxer there, so it's not strange. Yeah, it's worrying. So they say speed of time increases as you get older because you've got the same life form. You've got more familiar experiences. I think if you can try and cultivate a growth mindset though, I think that you can slow that time difference by an awful lot. There is not Susanna Hallenon who I did a podcast with recently, Gretchen Ruben talks about trying to vary your life
Starting point is 01:23:47 as much as possible to slow that down, so taking different routes to work, and all things like that, varying eating with the left hand, just doing as much as you can to vary your life. The master of that, isn't he, with all the travel and... You know what you said about setting
Starting point is 01:24:02 sort of three-year, 90-day goals, and you look back over a year and you're like, wow, look at what I've done across all these parts of my life. Then, when 10 years go by, you can almost look back and go back and go. Because that problem is, it's not the experience itself, because the time doesn't go any quicker or any slower. I know. I remember itself. Yeah. So you're right. It's a five-and-reference point. Yes. RJ Smith, 515.
Starting point is 01:24:24 How do you go about deciding what career is right for you and what to do in a job you're in? But don't enjoy if that makes sense. I'm a support worker 26. I've been done sports science at uni, got a crappy grade and don't know what the best career path for myself is. So we've, I mean, we've both had a major change of career path and so have you to an extent? What would you do if money was no object? What would you do if you didn't have to pay for anything anymore and money was no object? What would you spend your time? As long as that because a lot of people, because I get asked this quite a bit, I imagine you do too, because people see that I've left accounts to do online fitness in a way
Starting point is 01:25:08 of weird direction. I think some people will ask in that back saying, oh yeah, but I'm really into fishing, I can't monetize that. Like there's ways to monetize most things. And I think there's the risk that you turn your hobby or your passion into a career or into a job and end up hating your passion. But I think if you structure it right, like the way I feel about it is if you are like deeply, deeply passionate about something,
Starting point is 01:25:37 you will be able to, and this is what Alan what says, like if you love doing something, you'll be good at it. And if you're really good at it, you'll be able to command a good fear or a good income from whatever it is that you do. So start with that question. So yeah, like and you may be passionate, you may not. And if you don't, if you're not blessed with passionate, something and you can't force
Starting point is 01:25:57 it, then be strategic about it and say, what, what do I value? Do I value time? Do I value money? Do I value freedom? And I value money? Do I value freedom? And this will change over the years, but a lot of people, and you know, I went to work in finance and asset manager and a lot of these people who work there, they were really passionate about finance. Plus, they really valued money. Much more than they valued time. And so I remember getting a message at 8am, UK time,
Starting point is 01:26:25 from someone in the New York office, New Start, saying, hey, can you send me some slides for this thing on what it was on chat? And I was like, isn't it 4am for you? And she was like, yeah, I've been in since 9am this morning. Like that kind of lifestyle, if you value money over and above all else, then yeah. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:26:41 You know, my supervisor, so for anyone who doesn't know me, I transitioned into medicine alongside ProPaid from Finance. And it was one of the best decisions I've made. So my supervisor at the moment did something similar and said to me, like, money is not, so he runs a private company but is a doctor at the same time. Now like if I would scale my business nationally, what would it do for my income? It wouldn't really give me much additional benefit. It would only
Starting point is 01:27:16 increase the quality of the problems that I have. And so I don't want to have to deal with that. It's like, I'm additional money at this point, it isn't going to help me. But I think, whenever you have the least of, you can't go for that. And then you think, like, I'm just going to go to the top level for that. People are like, oh, I want a 10 million pound business or a billion pound business. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the research says that after about 50,000000, £55,000 happiness does not increase with money.
Starting point is 01:27:48 But it's so hard to see that when you're earning much less than that because you think, wow, I love that. And like there's so much literature around scaling past a million as a business just creates problems beyond what most people are willing to tolerate. I think something that I really like is it keeping with the strategy, like if something isn't I'm passionate about this. Look at what you are better at than your friendship group. Like, look at what are you, what are your friends going? Oh, he's really good at this. And everyone has something. And I think that's an indicator of his skills and strengths.
Starting point is 01:28:20 It takes so much introspective work to work out what that was. So really good example that I like is What did you do between the ages of maybe about six and 14? What were your hobbies that you did back then? There's this great example that Gretchen Rubin uses where she talks about the world's best color picker So this woman chooses selections of colors that match together from however many there is four billion colors And she selects the ones that work and it's for like massive duelux, Vivian Westwood and she matches these colors together and they said so what are your professional qualifications in this and so well nothing but when I was about 10
Starting point is 01:28:57 years old I had like the largest crayon set that you can get and I used to just spend all of my time doing that and to bring it back to me when I was a kid I was an absolute gobshite it wouldn't shut up and I used to and I used to just spend all of my time doing that. And to bring it back to me, when I was a kid, I was an absolute gobshite, it wouldn't shut up. And I used to listen, I used to listen to audio books. What is the 20 years, 20 years hence? What is the manifestation of that? It's talking and listening on a podcast. Not that. And that weirdly, quiteically justice. To sort of finish off that, the, what would you do if money is no object? It's a really, really good way to do it. Another useful tool to use is to try and work out a Venn diagram of what you're good at, what you love to do, what society needs, and what you can be paid for.
Starting point is 01:29:36 And if you can try and find out where all of those things intersect, that's probably going to be somewhere close to your calling. Now that's not necessarily going to be the most fulfilling because as is shown by the Venn diagram, you're going to have to sacrifice some of what you love to do for some of what you can be pay for and a bunch of other things. But you know, we work within these grey areas a lot of the time and it's great to go dick and balls for one thing, but a lot of the time trying to find a modicum of balance is probably a pretty good way to go.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Yeah, and the guy asking this question is a support worker right now. And a lot of people would say that's an extremely fulfilling role because you're very hands on and you're helping people on a one-on-one basis. But if it's not fulfilling you, there's nothing wrong with you, there's nothing wrong with the job. It's just that it's not the way that you derive the feeling from adding value to people in a certain way. So like, if I think there's no worst way to spend your life then do something every day for the majority of your time that you don't enjoy doing. I just, I honestly
Starting point is 01:30:30 think it's the worst decision you can make. I would have been seriously depressed or probably killed myself within 10 years if I stayed at Black Rock do it. Like, obviously forces would have meant that you would have changed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, change the thing. But if, you know, if there was, if we were in a communist government and I had to do that, then there's a photo of you just in keeping with Chris' things, a photo of you where you've arranged all your toys in order. In a perfect set.
Starting point is 01:30:56 And that's just, I think, like, investment by the time Dr. Jerry Lawson comes in with websites and technology Brief one here how important is it to stay in the 10 to 15% body fat range for hyperboot? Roots PT roots Andrew. Thank you for the Shardtouts recently and the the shares and podcasts and so on really appreciate it I remember seeing you in Biker. Biker, D.W. Fitness and thinking. Let's get ready to rumble. If I get popped on YouTube for that fucking music usage, because we're so, totally, we're
Starting point is 01:31:38 so close. Oh God. Not important. For gaining muscle, that's easier. So yeah, there's physiological metrics for saying that if your hormonal profile goes out of whack, if you're too much above 15%, because fat and adipocytes are an endocrine organ in themselves, they produce estrogen. And so if you have too much fat on your body, you're going to be producing more estrogen
Starting point is 01:32:03 in the shirt, that's not conducive to muscle gain. But the other thing is that it's just a waste of time gaining too much fat and having to then spend six or eight months cutting back, the simplest solution would be eat a surplus that is moderate enough so that you don't stray above that. 0.5% a... 0.5% body weight per week loss. And if you're gaining 0.5% a month or if you've been trying so long. I mean I imagine Andrew's asking this out of interest because last time I saw you were pretty lean. So on the flip side of that though, you know, trying
Starting point is 01:32:38 to maintain 8 or 9% whilst gaining muscle as well. Yeah, trying to stay too lean, obviously. You're going to be playing about with such fine caloric discrepancies that it's going to be a fucking nightmare. Give yourself, allow yourself to relinquish one thing that no one really ever talks about when they talk about training and diet in terms of a typical bulk cut cycle is that willpower is a finite resource, everyone just treats bodybuilders and fitness models and people that go to the gym like they're just like a fucking robot that's got input and
Starting point is 01:33:13 outputs, it's like no, like if you've been in a moderately restricted diet for eight months, keeping you sort of trying to grow at 9% or 8% and then you have to cut from there, like where's the fucking work power you're gonna lost the will to live absolutely and I should say as well like maybe that's where the question is coming from it's staying below that range you know but yeah being 76% like you then you have the opposite from your and androgen start to drop and so that's also not conducive to muscle gain so two degree 10 to 15% is a little...
Starting point is 01:33:46 It's a sweet spot. And like 10 to 12%. As far as anyone else is concerned, looking at you on a beach, you're gonna be shredded. Yeah, they were all that guys' bodybuilding. He's big and lean. Like, you'll have a little bit of masculinity. And you'll be bigger from the intramuscular fat as well.
Starting point is 01:34:02 So the only time that the only person that ever cares whether you're 7% or 9% is you. I, even your partner, I'd like, I wouldn't say even bother worrying about body fat percentage. I just, I know it's, I know that has to be afraid for the question, but like, it's so difficult to say, I might 10%, 11%, 30%, 70%. So I would get, the model we use with everyone we work with is get to the point where you are as happy objectivity as you can possibly be with how lean you are. You don't mind adding a bit of calories, try to retain visually as that lean as much as possible, try to keep your body weight as stable as possible, allowing slight increase and focus on adding weight to the bar
Starting point is 01:34:41 or doing more total work over time. And naturally by virtue of that, you will be adding muscle mass at the max of your physiological rate. And just set calories to be permissive to muscle mass. No, not 0.5% to 1% per month is a... At most? Getting, yeah, at most. But there is a video on this that it's a grid and it relates to how many years of training you've had and how much muscle
Starting point is 01:35:06 gain that equates to as far as in terms of. DJ Slaki 85. First one, when's the Leon Scott podcast coming out? I have got a reminder set for about four days time to give him a message for those people who don't know Leon Scott is a pretty well-known Instagram model. And I got him to agree to come on, but he's got a crazy busy shoe schedule. So I haven't been able to get him yet, but I promise I will. He's only from Middlesburg, he's just down the road.
Starting point is 01:35:38 And there's someone who's like 150K on Instagram and he does like Herelundin, which you may have heard of and chain enable able and like he does big dick campaigns huge big dick social media influencer campaigns. But he's the guy that suggested that we go to the Kadampa compassion center and do Buddhist meditation. Right. So he was a guy that inspired me. Yeah, he's the one that inspired me to go there. Who are these guys? We're talking earlier on about being an enigma and having multi facets in your personality. This guy is like completely out of his own outlier.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Right. And it's going to be super, super interesting. I have no idea. I have no idea what I'm going to hear when I sit down with him. I've never heard him speak on a, he doesn't do like recorded voice. He also plays professional football for Darlington Football Club. He's got like this like super fit girlfriend and he's always in Bali and doing cool shit and then he'll want to a photo shoot and then he'll be training
Starting point is 01:36:28 and then he's released a e-books and all sorts of stuff. He's an interesting fucking guy. So to Chris, can you describe your transition from training the typical weight training split to the way you do now in terms of what you notice in your physique changes and how your diet has changed. You look a lot bigger than your love island shape yet still lean. Chris Fit podcast. Chris Fit podcast, yeah so prop and fitness and search Chris Fit. That's fine, you've got that out.
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Starting point is 01:37:19 Yeah, you're probably right. I've changed my capacity on a podcast more than my physique, I think. To try and distill that down, doing CrossFit means, it's training from that to how I am now, it's just being CrossFit. Like, I wish that I could say it was something else, I wish that there was some secret source, some solution that I'd added in. And it's not, it's just being CrossFit. And I think, again, we go back to Bluntforce, trauma.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Like, it's an awful lot of volume, very frequently. I'm training a lot more frequently than I used to. The reason for that is because I like the way that I train. What that distills down to is choose a training methodology which you enjoy. If you enjoy it, you will train more. And if you train more, you will elicit games more quickly than you would have done if you weren't.
Starting point is 01:38:01 There's something called MRV, which is maximum recoverable volume. And for an awful lot of people that go to the gym normally, I think they're miles below that. The number of people that over train, unless they're any fucking heavy calorie deficit. But it's so worried about over-training, aren't they? Oh, Lee, what have I worked?
Starting point is 01:38:15 And a five set to squat to this week and I'm worried about over-training. Fuck off, mate. I don't know. Your mind will limit your over-training way before you can even touch over-training for like 99% population. Train more.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Train more. I've not seen someone lift as much volume and just have the capacity to hit his head off a wall. So much as Johnny. I think you've been able to sort of train. I had a time where I had to, I passed out on a sofa while watching it. So I got in from the gym, lay down and just fell asleep and woke up several hours later, feeling terrible and shakes and shivers. But I still don't think I was over trained. So just been doing like a hard set of curls,
Starting point is 01:38:55 doesn't mean that you're doing it. Yeah, propping fitness.com forward slash, or just propping fitness.com, M-R-V is an article on it by the guy who, who quite a big concept. Oh wow, Mike is with tell. That is big dick. And so in terms of diet, for maybe the last 18 months,
Starting point is 01:39:10 because I was training more, it allowed me to eat more, whether you believe in g-flux theory or not, I'm not really too sure, but I was eating more, I was training more, like, it doesn't take a genius to work out what's gonna happen. Like, the kind of physique as well that I consider to be aesthetically pleasing has changed an awful lot from the tiny waste, massive shoulders underdeveloped lower back, zero glutes, fitness model thing. To now, for me, a functional
Starting point is 01:39:41 physique is much more... F*** now, I need. F*** as f***. F*** now. like thick in the midsection you know look at someone like as a good example if you don't follow crossfit google or instagram Noah Olsen oh H L S E N or Olsen or Brent Fakowski for someone who's like big and tall and lean he's like six four walks around at seven percent body fat and eats 6,000 to 7,000 calories a day 600 grams of carbs That's what an peeled out of his mind. This is something I'd like to ask you
Starting point is 01:40:17 but simply relate it to this has crossfit changed What you find attractive in a woman absolutely yeah, so changed what you find attractive in a woman. Absolutely, yeah. So again, because I have no idea when this one's going to get published, I don't know if this is in the future or in the past. At some point, I will do a podcast with Sonny Webster. From today, it will be one week's time.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Do you wait to record it? Make the fourth of all some things. So much worse than the time. No, so it's seven days from now, but that might be 14 days in the past, all the future for for you depending on the posting schedule. So, and me and Sonny have this discussion in awful lot. One of the things that we're going to bring up on that is going to be that there is a, for both men and women, there are massive advantages and disadvantages of finding other people that do cross-fit and strength sports attractive. One of the ones for men is that you
Starting point is 01:41:07 are essentially forced to have sex from a deficit, reason being that if you are doing a girl from behind who is particularly well developed in the glutial area that essentially your hips are pushed further away from the point of entry, which is sex from a deficit and I really don't care how big your piece is. I'm trying to figure out that it's starting on a deadlift, signing on a plate. So reduced range of motion or increased range of motion theoretically, but reduced actual so the it's like it's like putting us it's like benching it's like benching with plates It's benching with a from a so there's a fixed distance internally fixed distance, right? There is a blockage externally preventing you taking back
Starting point is 01:41:55 You're done lifting from it you're like rack pulls then yeah, okay. Yeah, so I'm not from it. It's not yeah Board press so it's what I don't think that is what it is. It's from a deficit in terms of... It's just saying that the glutamass and your anterior thigh mass is increasing the range of motion. Increasing the total range of motion. That you are required to do. You know what it is. You have something tells me that when I ask Sonny Wax to this question, this isn't going to be okay. I'm trying to decide by the autistic... Trying to decide whether to do a rock pull or a deficit of debt left. A deficit of debt left would increase the range.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Which is what it's doing? How is it decreasing the range? It's decreasing the penetration, but increasing the range. That you have to perform. It's increasing your hip movement. Yeah, which is the way we do it. Can we get back to the fact that I'm okay? And here's his, so it's twofold, okay?
Starting point is 01:42:50 The first one is, I don't care how big your piece is, you cannot afford to lose an inch to two inches off length, like no one can. Doesn't matter how well long you are, I agree. What's that, like that question? The man's half one. The, the inch of your penis, or an inch of your,'s health one. An inch of your penis or an inch of your... It's game an inch on your penis,
Starting point is 01:43:07 game six inches of height of 20 pounds of muscle, 15 pounds of muscle. 15 pounds of muscle. If you were six inches tall, you'd be fucked. Yeah, 15 pounds of muscle's gonna be a big deal. So that's a first part, right? And then on the flip side, as a woman who's in strength sports.
Starting point is 01:43:26 If you're really, really pushing out of it, it is inevitable that your range of motion is going to be reduced. Muscle mass tends to be pretty country to range of motion and I don't really care how strong you are, but as a woman, if your knees can no longer touch your shoulders, you've sacrificed too much. Like, yes, you've sacrificed too much.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Like, yes, you're strong, but at what cost? Because both you and I have lost out from that. So yeah, the combination of the lack of range causes it worse probably. But you've got from front to back, you've got reduced like, penitural distance. Doesn't matter where you put them. Fine. They're not. So is there an advantage to you getting pancake and splits?
Starting point is 01:44:11 Absolutely. What is a man or a woman? For you, it's a man. For me, it's a man, not really. It doesn't really matter what I do. So I found my boxed blitz and a doctor, my abduction is to allow to scoop underneath for a little bit. Yes, it's been very helpful. How about you with Rommwad Johnny?
Starting point is 01:44:29 Because you deadlift Sumo. So as Becca noticed, the difference in the... I think Rommwad, for me, brings me back to normal, rather than puts me into super normal. Like, I think my flexibility is... probably pretty poor in the strength world. Better than like your average person. But like, if you compare any self to someone who's like
Starting point is 01:44:49 struggling to hold themselves in position for more than 10 seconds or, you know, gets out of breath very quickly, then what you do can be right now. You just gotta take regular breaks. Well, like, I mean, regular breaks and regular sip of water, don't push yourself too hard on something. Like, it's, it's legitimately a problem. Like, we joke, but there are people who turn
Starting point is 01:45:06 up to IVF clinics and the advice is just loosen weight because mechanically you can't. You're not achieving it. Yeah. So that deadlift thing on 20-20 kilo of weight. The bar is actually lower than lower than they can read. It's just sealer rope's heavy. Right, I think we've pretty much completed it. There's loads left over, but that's an hour and 45. We've completed polycasting. We really did today. It's got dark up there. Final box.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Sundering. Yeah, we have to start again on a high difficulty setting now. Of course we do. But you get your mod and you get new outfits. And it's left left, RB, LB, left left, right triangle, square, X, menu. And then you get, you unlock all the things you're driving. Stuff that will be coming up, bloody hell. Well, I have no idea of the production schedule, but I know that I'm going to get Alex from Cosmic Skeptic, who is a really interesting bastard. I'm going to have
Starting point is 01:46:06 Sunni Webster coming up pretty soon. Sunni will be talking about doping and PDUs in sports, which as a... especially recently, the Emily Abbott from Crossfit and a bunch of other Crossfit athletes have been popped. Remembering that Sunni is unable to weight lift competitively for four years because of exactly the same thing so that's going to be really interesting. He's not able to cross fit. No, he's just traveling the world. He just does some weightlifting seminars. That's a strong guy. Yeah, a strong guy.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Tim Briggs is going to be on talking about eating for performance. Paul Warrior, Jordan and Tim will be back. Do what they do and we have got Life Fails, Life Hacks 105 and 106 to go through. And honesty. Honestly, we've got Relationships 102, we've got the single one, we've got Running Your Own Business, we've got so much stuff coming up. All that I need to do. Strenth, strength as well, which you really want to do.
Starting point is 01:47:01 All that I really need to do, if you're still listening after one hour and 48 minutes, if you are still listening, a couple of things that I want you to do. First one is head to youtube.com slash modern wisdom podcast and press subscribe. The second one is to tweet at propane fitness saying, please do another podcast because they don't like notifications and if you keep on doing it It'll annoy them into coming around to my house. I think it's a vacation. Well, you've turned them off. Yeah, and so let's see No, it's gonna. No, no, no, no, Joe then But she'll pass that down to a different graveyard I do to it
Starting point is 01:47:41 Do you have the money Instagram because that'll come through. Anyway, thanks a lot. Johnny works. See you later. Okay, bye done. Bye. Okay, bye done. Okay, bye done. Okay, bye done.
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