Modern Wisdom - #037 - The Lean Machines, Sonny Webster & Zack George - Battle Cancer Q&A

Episode Date: November 5, 2018

I recently sat down with Sonny Webster, Zack George and Leon & John from The Lean Machines for a special edition super podcast before the Battle Cancer Fitness Competition in London. Lots of listeners had submitted questions in advance via Instagram and I posed as many as I could to the boys before Sonny have to rush off to some swanky event with the Queen. Expect to learn why the boys believe Competitive Bodybuilding to be an unhealthy lifestyle, what sport they would all be focussed on if they were not lifting weights, how to make your moustache join in the middle and why Sonny sucks so bad at Double Unders. Other Things: Check out Battle Cancer: https://www.battle-cancer.co.uk Follow Zack: https://www.instagram.com/zackgeorge Follow Sonny: https://www.instagram.com/sonnywebstergb Follow The Lean Machines: https://www.instagram.com/theleanmachinesofficial Check out everything I recommend from books to products and help support the podcast at no extra cost to you by shopping through this link - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello friends. Recently I went to London for the Battle Cancer Fitness Competition. As part of that, I got to sit down with Zach George, Sonny Webster and John and Leon from the Lean Machines for a Q&A episode. Now, originally we'd wanted to do it in whatever it takes, then that wasn't available, so we went and did it in Leon, which is a brand of cafes in London, which are actually really good. However, there is a little bit of background noise and a crying Asian child not too far from where we were, which is totally fine, but you before Sunni had to rush off to a Dolce and Gabbana VIP pool party on a winged horse or something. We're not too sure He went somewhere fancy afterwards in any case, so we were on a tight timeline However, if you enjoy this I'm pretty certain I'll be able to get the boys together again And we will be able to sit down and really drill into them with some good questions for now. Enjoy. Oh yeah, PS. I ended up getting roped into do battle cancer.

The final event of battle cancer the next day because John had to rush off. What that meant was that I was full of Milky Bar buttons and pink lemonade, Lucas Aid and was then told, oh by the the way, Chris, you're gonna have to bin yourself. In the final event of the day, as we're battling for the lead here, which was lovely. I thoroughly enjoyed competing with the boys,

but I was definitely down there as a spectator. So just frame that in your mind today, when I'm making jokes about how horrible it's gonna be for them all tomorrow, completely blissfully unaware of the fact that I'm actually going to have to get involved. Welcome back, I'm joined on the long-awaited super podcast. It's a new website that's out George, we're on the joint from the Lean Sheens. Say hello everyone. Hello, what are you doing?

It's my club here. Now we asked online for some suggestions for people to ask you questions. Ahead of battle tanks is big event tomorrow. First question, how are you guys feeling for the coming tomorrow? You've seen the workouts now, you know what's coming up, how are you feeling? It's just going to be fun to compete with the boys, it's just going to be a lot. Very different workouts to what we used to. Yeah, I'm feeling a little bit stressed because obviously I'm the biggest athlete out of all four of us here.

So it's like a lot of weight to carry. Normally, normally when I'm on my own, it's hard, but with these three to carry as well, I don't know how I'm going to get through, but it's fun on the same. I don't want to run. I don't want to run anymore. I'm sure there's one way to eat all after run.

It's a fun of all the way around here. And there's a carrying one. 50kg in my box. So, the other guy is a carry. Yeah, they'll be sweeping up and I come across the light. I made it, then I made it just in time for next year's time. Yeah, I'm so excited. So we asked on Instagram for some questions from people

and we got a mix bag, some sensible ones, some of our sensible ones. Someone asked, what are the best supplementing exercises to an overhead squat? Start with a serious one. So I guess that's not the best. You're not having a me. Yep. Okay, so the me and frame exercises overhead squat would be behind-hand press in snatch grip. What are you doing?

That's what you say. Behind-hand press in snatch grip, obviously for me, whenever you're trying to improve your overhead squat, I always suggest people there's no short cuts around and you've got to practice the actual movement. So for me, actually just working a range where you can keep a good position, but it's what's the most important thing. In terms of other supplement exercises that I like to do, would be something like socks press because I find for me that really helps I know a lot of people struggle with that It's not an easy one but for me again, I'm glad it's in that exercise working on my front-ramp ability

I find that really helps me keep my chest up more in the open to work so that's another really good exercise And finally if anyone has struggled as well with that and mobility Yeah, trying to work and actually loosen up a fast and focusing on your range of motion there Or to make the overhead spot matches. Good luck. Good luck. Anyone else pick something? I'm not really sure.

I'm not really sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. or Ollie lifting, what were the twos and why? That's a great question. Mine would be rugby, but played five good level already, so in the past, because you'd walk through full, so that's why.

That he... He'd be like, Batman, really? That's a bit... It's like eating flesh! Yeah, I used to play to these levels, so mine would be rugby. You might get a table tennis, but I don't know, aren't you? Ooh! You'd be the biggest table tennis player.

I'd be the biggest table tennis player. I wouldn't do it so hard. You would certainly make table tennis sex. Yeah, you would a good one. You'd be the biggest tailor. I'd be the tailor. I would do it so hard. You would certainly make tailor's in a sexy way. Yeah, you would be the next tailor. That would be the top of my life. Yeah, top of that one. Yeah, top of that one. Right.

I would, I used the box. And we're back in the day when I used the box. I didn't really have the head for it as in, like, mentally. So I would probably go back to boxing because I think now, yeah, now that I've got the attitude and the awareness that I've got I think I absolutely smash it so I definitely go back to that. That's cool. Torrent between snowboarding and basketball. Oh, basketball.

Oh, basketball. They're just two. They're just two. They're just two. You just show us on the coolest spot. They're just two. Yeah, basketball is so nice. Awesome.

What would you always do, so something called Formula One? Formula One. Oh, no, it's Formula Awesome. What would you as do some of this? So, I'll call me the one. Oh, no. If I call me the one, I'll be a full moon brother. That would be... Is that because they get sponsors off like Cardier and... It's all just a matter of... Yeah, I've got any watch.

For anyone who doesn't know, Sunni has spent most of the weekend bouncing between different top-level designers. He's going to Vitsachis house later on before he... He's quite having a rich of brands and designers. Yeah, he's on Rich's Rands in Zile before he had. He's quite ever to Richard Brandt's idea. Yeah, he's on Richard Brandt's idea and he came in by Wingforce earlier, actually. Why does Sunni, with impeccable timing and coordination and lifting, suck so bad at double-enders? Great question.

You're a great question. It's because I don't have the right rope. I'm blaming my question. He's that tradesman, bad work. I once had this heavy rope, which I actually do like 30 or 40 double-handers on and I was happy. And then I let my friend one of the open workouts in a like skipping and something and he snapped it and ever since then, I haven't got a new rope.

I want a new heavy rope, and I'll get them back. What he's saying is that a new rope, a normal rope is too light for him. Yeah, he just can't roll on the rope. I've been doing that. Double-handers aren't having a hard enough rope. Even that was wrong. Yeah, I was like, I was jumping, didn't I?

I was jumping, you know. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping.

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I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. I was jumping. what you do. I thought I was getting really understanding if that's a question. It's probably more talking about how you deal with relationships. Probably best from new boys. Like maybe in the same room. My partner couldn't be any less bothered by exercise. Like she doesn't enjoy it, doesn't do it, and

she gives me zero shit for doing it. Like she's like, to your thing, you do it and I don't push her into it. So I think that comes down to who you partner is really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. My relationship started different obviously with my wife, she's in the social media world and fitness world as well. So it's a little bit easier for her to understand.

But also, you know what, I think regardless of your trade and what you do, somebody should always just support it. You know, if you've got a partner who gives you crap for going to the gym, it's not really because they're quite used to doing that themselves. They give you crap about your job unless, you know, generalizing unless you like to top this weight or something.

Yeah. I think it's still. I think it must be hard for me to stop obviously having too long relationships or having a little of my school. And I think that it must be hard for me to have too long relationships with my school. I think it must be always hard for me to realise that there will be ways to second best to what we're doing. Especially when you're a top level athlete. That must be difficult to deal with, but I think I'm saying that someone that supports supports understands your commitment to what you're doing. It must be interesting for you because you're in a relationship with two like top-level athletes in it, right? Like, as yourself and your Mrs does for me to hurt us.

She understands that what it takes to kind of be a top-tier sport. So for me it's pretty, pretty comfortable situation. She has to find that she's giving you a shit for bitching out unlike I don't want to get up today I don't know what to do and she killed me at trying she runs for me at her all spring and I do it clap without it I did tell you the next day I said if you do spring tomorrow for work you don't you up on your hamstring yeah I mean I went track with her first time to actually I'm super competitive she was killing me but under these old boys probably about six years, and like they were keeping up with me. I was like, 15 hours is not on. And then first sprint tried to beat the full man tree.

So now they're starting, they finish like seven more rounds. I was happy to sit there. So cute. So, yeah. So you're rolling in the corner. Yeah, she trained just to the side, you say. Yeah, it's pretty easy for me. We both understand.

What it takes. How do you personally attack a new PR? You PR today? Yeah, I did PR today. I don't have enough at warm-up for about 90 seconds. Yeah, well today, yeah, I don't have enough at warm-up for just two minutes. I miss one. I miss one.

So, you'll let you talk about your optimal warm-up strategy after this. Yeah, I normally warm up for about 40 minutes. Just, I'm not a mobile person at all. So, I'm just a mobile person at all. So just hitting himself. I've seen you cold by 160, 40 hours. But I think the Gettin' PB is a lot of this down to atmosphere as well. Like I normally keep him and I'm with these boys just to be.

I think the use boys so much better. I'm obviously mine are a lot lighter than Zack and Sonny's, but I think you hit it or you miss it before you even lifted it. It's completely in your head. Like if you've got a doubt, then you're going to find a rhythm. Yeah. Most of the time when I pay out when it's a heavy lift, it's either when I'm with Zach or Sonny, and it's not anything that they're saying or doing, it's really just a fact.

Well, it's what they're doing. They're lifting it. Wait, so heavy that when I'm going up to my measly 90 kilos for a snatch, I see them warm up and barely bend and they need to get it. So it's like, well, you just approach and you're like, well, I don't get it, I don't get it. It's like, it doesn't feel, it's strengthy, it doesn't feel heavy anymore. When you see what those guys are throwing around. So are we saying, get a team behind you, get some people in the gym chanting, get some good news, you know, you get the atmosphere. And train with stronger people. Yeah, do you want to be better at anything? You always

train with people that are better at you. Or people that can at least shout love. Yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, as well. Yeah, as well. Before I even go into the gym, I put in my head, right, I'm going to be in a PB today. Like, you get that buzz or that feeling, like the other day, like, it's like six,

30 or nine hours a day. I'm going to go to a gym to a guy. And I literally wouldn't even plan to train I just walk along and do it. Yeah. Took a look at that. I went down, had a knock-over. I was at a really long time. I've been missing something man. What was your first day of that day?

What weight was your first leg? I actually took one time, so I started at 70. Took you started at 170, 100, 120, 40, 60. That's a really long long version. That's incredibly nice. I saw you do... When you got to 200 metres a lot of jumps. Well, when you did on the worldest standard body power,

140 cold, 160, 170, 170 was what you needed to get. So it was three, like two warmocks sets and then a... Yeah, it's nice. It's nice, it's nice. But it's just... I don't know how you bought it, it takes it. I find it so psychological. I think it's quite impressive, like having chatted to you a lot about your training and stuff recently, about the fact that you you seem to never really get knocked off. There are a lot of guys that I know in the gym who a little bit tired, a little bit flu, a little bit hungover, but you're like, I threw a nuclear war, cut at half an hour's sleeve, and shot. I was like, I was shot, I got into that. I was doing out, I'm

reading all of the sunny. One of the heaviest nights of my life, I was so ill the next day and I don't really get hangovers. I don't know if he was still drunk, he had a red ball and went to SNES 140s right away. Yeah, John doesn't really get hangovers. I don't know if he was still drunk. He had a red ball and went to SNES 140s right away. Yeah, John doesn't really worry much about hangovers. We were actually in the cab and he starts talking to the camera and goes, Leon, you're going to have to do it today. I can't. He was in a bad place, meant most of the day

of his hands on his knees. And Sonny just turned up, puts his lily bead, Sonny's on. Bends at 150 kilos. Just get the dodging upon his hands. I'm going to pull them up. I'm going to pull them up. So he's going to be done. I think it's fine. Straight in. Right, so, can powerlifting help weightlifting? I'm not a comment on this.

I personally don't really like powerlifting. Especially not a lot of bench press in the world. Yeah, I think the only way you can get away with benching and weightlifting is if you have a good range of motion. I almost hyper extend with most of my joints, so for me actually doing bench press for example, will help me get stable. But most people have got the opposite problem right? I think that's the problem. So you don't need to tighten that up.

I don't the same sun. If you're doing low bars and going only halfway down, then I don't think that tighten that up. I don't have the same sun. If you're doing low bars, what's going on? If you're doing only halfway down, then I don't think that's going to carry over. Well, how are the tips up and down the country? It's a weight lifting, personally. Yeah. The FWC strength.

I think it'll do the base level strength. I was going to say the one thing that I think would actually, it would benefit is not exactly the sense of something, the one thing would do is you would stop worrying about heavy weights, moving big heavy weights is never gonna become an issue and just like when you go to deadloom, you're not really gonna worry about doing a thing.

But you'd be surprised how many people from deadloom to deadloom would get nowhere near 100 kilos clean. Yeah, I'm a bit of a loser. But you also think that that's gonna be age dependent, but typically the longer you've been in a school power, if you're in high-presume, the tighter you're gonna get. age dependent, typically the longer you've been in a sport of power. If you're in high presumed, the tighter you're going to get. So if you're 18 and you've been in power over two years, you're probably going to have a decent crossover into your crossbeard weightlifting. If you're 40 and you've been powerlifting for the last 30 years,

the chance of you get to the bottom of a snatch with speed is going to be... It also depends as well at what type of power you're doing. If you're doing a quick powerlifting thing, or if you're wrong. Yeah, if you're doing, if you're doing a quick, powerful thing or if you're doing it wrong. If you're using the power of the movement and using them as a full range, that's going to help you do it. Get better, wait a minute, that's essentially what you spend. Better you get better, wait a minute, you're doing it half your time, doing it half your

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First time I shaved my toes. Why did you shave your toes? I was like, Nancy, one of the girls at high school, she was just hanging out one day and I remember her saying that she hated it because her dad had ugly feet because they had hairy toes. So I went home and shaved my toes and now my big toes are like super hairy. It's a story. It's talking to a shaved-in body, but it would probably be an act of time to explain what happened that it probably wouldn't be an act of money, when the funniest thing ever is in my body, do you know what I mean?

Do you know what I mean? Go for it. So we first photo shoot Leon Knight ever did, it was for Atrium Magazine, which is a gay magazine, it's basically to promote sexual awareness and sexual health. Like we do a photo shoot, like we never done one before, but hell why not? I mean for, it would be naked shoe, but you'll be covered up. No, it was like getting the kick at them boys and obviously the old self I'd have a little bit of a trim up and I think you know sometimes you just take things too far and you just

keep going and then keep going and basically it's he's a good guy with a good guy. And everyone was like it was literally like Hitler's mustache just on top it was a little off. It was like something just a little hairy upside cue above. Just on top, it's just a little off. It looks like somebody just put a little hairy up so cute above. Just on the face. I look at you, I look at you. We're holding this rope at a time. It's a big rope, it's not a big rope. Because of this big boat, very rope wherever it was. We're leaning away like we're doing a really cool tug of war.

We're doing these cool stuff. We're leaning away and I just see that we're just staring at each other. Because we're like, this is so weird weird and I just suddenly see his eyes go Looked down It just got a little carried away. That's one of the kids kept going in on the edges So I think we're about yeah, it's growing back now Basically around the outside In a minute, it's growing back now This really short bit in the middle is just like a bold stamp

Is it too late to start waiting at 18 years old You think but this is a byproduct of the fact that a lot of people that are good at exploring it and do it young? Like you talk about the fact you've done it since you were 11, 12 years old, etc. Of course, for me, that's the thing for three years, naturally. But then to the day, more and more people, again, in this week that thing later, it depends like, if you want to be a competitive top level with them, they're starting at 18. That is quite late, but then to say that like my old training partner Brad, he started at 80, he went to come up again so I don't think that's too late it just needs to be sensible and have like probably a background from another

sport that's going to carry over because your transition could be quite quick. I started starting out. For example, that's numbers, he's nearly nearly lifting, you know, watching what your two are saying for me. So that's 1.25 and then clean jet 1.15. Yeah, we're doing some big numbers. Yeah, so 25.65 for someone who's only been lifting for three years, obviously didn't start at all.

I started lifting properly when I was 25. Yeah, so you know what I mean? So he's got seven years on Zach, so whoever that person is, no, it's not seeing. Hey, what do you weigh at the moment, so you've got to sit, you've got seven years on Zack, so whoever that person is, no, it's not to hate. Got you. What do you weigh at the moment, so? I'm 102. Got up. Yeah, since we usually go to diet.

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It's not as high as what people think is three thousand three hundred Lower the mind Yeah, because I'm just a naturally big guy I eat like four thousand calories on the way So easy Yeah So I'm just a natural big guy So I kind of the minimum I can to still form I know around about maintenance Hard How do you find you getting lean can you lean out if need to be yeah, my body Sentry ran 11

But I can wait and you're like soft Oh, he's taking a bench to this Imagine if the whole thing just comes back and Sony's got a black eye. It's actually just that thing. It doesn't feel like that. Yeah, so I eat like that. The minimum I can to still promote track the way they do. Does that mostly clean stuff?

In fact, we've got a question here. How often do you guys cheat on your diet? How strictly do you guys have so many cheat? I don't know if you cheat. How often do you diet on your cheat? Well, thank you. We don't believe in like, your cheek nails, anything like that, but like,

it's nothing that's off the limit that you can't have because they just create a negative relationship food. Like, if you coach someone, you say, look, you can't have chocolate ever again. I agree. At some point, they're gonna have chocolate. They're gonna cave in, and then they're gonna have this negative loop and they feel bad about it

on bread, ruin my diet. And you say, look, they're sticks to our calories. 80% of your food has come from real good foods. 20% of the time you can have some of that other stuff because it's gonna stop your binge on it and it just puts people in the North and that's how sure you don't get super lean like you would have been a bodybuilder but my clients and 90% of the people out there aren't trying to step on stage so why not take the longer approach which is sustainable and you can still have a fun for sustainable points.

It's such a good thing. And strategizing as well, one of the biggest things we do about crying is which is sustainable and you can still have a fun think sustainable points. That is so good. And strategizing as well, one of the biggest things we do about clients is educate them about how to negotiate with their calories. A lot of people say, man, go, well, I've got it, 2,000 calories a day, I've got a happy and five little top-of-way boxers over the day. It's got even this, even that.

And I'm like, if you're going to go out for a meal with your misses and you're going to go to the cinema, you know that that's going to happen, unless you're really spontaneous, you're normally going to know your plan for the evening. Just bring your calories back a little bit throughout the day and allow for the evening. It's a lot more. Yeah, it's not all that I've been wanting to do.

This is coming from Mr. Yolo himself, isn't it? I'm not sure you've got a representative fitness sample. I'm just going to, I'd be for the day. And also as well as like, I've been good. My background. There's really nice macaroons over there and fancy a macaroons and be there. I see in a few hours. I think also as well it's a really important point to say that,

especially with dieting, getting lean and performance driven, whatever it is when it comes to calories, it's not done in all brew and in one day. No, it's such an experience. Unless you eat with some extra jam. It's a week, it's a model of it's two months. It's always better to be consistently good, and to be awesome at times, you should be the best at times. It's just going to be easier to do,

and your results might not be as fast, but they'll be there and they'll stay for good for them. I think a lot of people, when they go, right, I'm going to die, they go so far, the opposite of that. Yeah, and they rather just too, like a tiny little bit better, maybe more consistent, improved, just slightly less, you know, bad food. It's not being treated lightly clean at food, and just make small changes, and then it's actually something that they've consistently fits in with the lifestyle. You're intuitively eat healthy because you used to eat healthy. You've entrained yourself in it's exactly that.

We want to win, so we set up lots of mini-victories. I had a client recently and they were doing things like eight cans of coke in a day and I was like, right, that's way too much. But I'm not going to tell you not to have coke now because it's like going culturedly, so I said, what we do is we'll cut down the amount which has something to go until we get down to a

Couple of times a week or whatever's whatever super person, but it's the same with smoking most very hard I've got a lot to complete all certain sometimes that's a cut down I think when it comes to diet and creative how it gets you is done with habits and those habits don't just go Oh tomorrow I got new habit. It takes time and it's okay to not be perfect all the time But in the long run, you may go to the positive steps until you sit in the good position. I get that.

Do you think going to a topic that we haven't touched yet today in bodybuilding, which is kind of, I guess, I don't hear the bodybuilding.com forums and like all of that kind of this culture appears for now, the new things coming through is for functional fitness, CrossFit, weightlifting, stuff like that. Do you think that inherently in the bodybuilding diet mentality there is something a little bit unhealthy in that with that flip flop between the super low, super high?

Yeah I think a lot of people do volleyball, but they have a bad relationship with food. Yeah, a bad relationship with show or. It's one of those things as well. It's not even just about the relationship with food it's a relationship with themselves. So we all remember when we were at our linens, you know, we've all got that one photo and we've got saved on a phone We're like, I'm gonna get it back to that. It's a quiz ten times on your Instagram feed. And it must be even hard for the guys and girls to get in crap and get on stage. The amount of stress is how high they do it, to even get to that point. And they know that it's not sustainable.

But they're exactly exactly the same. They then get on stage and then they take it to or they're not good enough. I don't know if they're in great shape. I think that's logic. I think that's brutal. I have someone come to me and ask me to coach them to give to them on stage.

And I said I wouldn't do it. And I said that each of the row, and apart from probably Jamie Oden there's not really anyone that I know Who can step on stage and then go back to having a normal relationship with their food? And I said I said to him I was like what I see is that I haven't walked that myself And what I see time-time again is people die and make their life miserable to get some stage and then for the rest of their life They go they compare themselves to one thing you're about to get. But I look a lot bigger. I can't wait to get back to this.

And I've never seen them get back to that again. Why? Because you're starving yourself. It's not sustainable. It's not a normal thing to do. It's not helping. Like, really on the video while back, like everyone was, had their opinions on tests

on who was the abysclamant in the front of Cosmo. Yeah, and I like that it's holiday. Yeah, it's like that's extreme. That's extreme. But we now so conditioned to see people kind of stir right up to the max on the final things, and that also isn't healthy,

but it's become the normal to us. So I think we have to kind of question stuff more than just we can't just judge a book where it's covered, and that's what everything social media is now. It's judge a book where it's covered, and that's why people are on app. I think there's definitely one of the reasons why CrossFit is the uptake of CrossFit can sometimes be a little bit slower

Is that people don't like to do stuff that is sucker? Yeah, and the barriers to entry of doing a sport where there's so many very difficult Like perfect example you spend your entire athletic career sunny doing two lifts and You know that work or almost exactly two-l. And you think like you can go into a gym and must for a super-nated bicep curl in the space of three minutes having never lifted a weight before. So the barriers to entry for doing a sport like CrossFit are inherently a lot higher.

So many. But what's cool about it is that you're gonna have something you're good at. Like if you go in sun in, that could be super strong, but there could be an overhead squat, mobility thing that those boys haven't got that I've got. So they's able to dock hands and legs.

Don't bother over a squat. Yeah. High sun, we're having a rubber trip. I've snapped in half. I've done hold yet. Yeah, it kicks me. I think there could be, you've always been hard when it comes to CrossFit as well, is that? You've never really seen any documentaries and bio videos done about going to the gym.

Because they're not sexy enough. But you've seen, like, if you've never done CrossFit and you see fits on earth, you're going to be like, oh my Christ, yeah, and am I ever going to do that? And it will put people off because they're like, well, if I can't put up like pull up, they don't understand progression and it's that's the thing that I really enjoy with CrossFit and you come in and it's not that level or nothing at all, whereas in the gym it's either a bench press or nothing at all. Yeah, it's not, I mean, it's not a mini win against again on the way, right? It's exactly that.

It's the hell that you sing for me, though Cosmic, because I'm never going to be the good thing to get started. When I was in the GM and I worked there, all I was judged on was how much I weighed, why could I do it? I'm never going to feel good there, I'm never going to win and I had a negative relationship to GM, so I went and did gymnastics, loved it, then I found CrossFit, I'm like, hey, you shit, I've got it. Married everything I've been doing, yeah. Yeah, it's stuff that I can do with my dad.

I could use love with the community of CrossFit within your box, it's one of the best things. I didn't even think it's just a box, you know. So every box that we go to, we're welcome to. In fact, I have not been to a box yet, where somebody who I've not known, and it's not known me, obviously, probably through the channel or something like that,

and I've not spoken to him. Never been to a box and a bottom ground with everyone right? Yeah, everyone has a conversation at some point. If they even some of them might have to see you do a lift or do something then they go, what did you do when you do that? Whereas like every time you just go into the gym, you can be looked at and it was just like, oh, how much is he mentioned? Yeah, I'll go, you'll have the 40s. I'll go get the 42s. You'll get the 44s. I'm going to be in the 40s. No one's really talking about it. Everyone just looks like they got beat for everyone. That's been from Magazine today and it came to my mind.

It's like, well I talk about going to the gym and if someone's doing something wrong, you give an advice that Phil offended. I've never been in an app like across the gym where you can give someone advice and then they'll think you're a real good boy. Yeah, without being a personal attack. It's just, I think it's a much more holistic environment for fitness. And it's a lot more about everyone's progress together, as opposed to this kind of, it's you on your own versus everyone else who's also on their own.

Yeah, exactly. Much more of a team basis. I think as well another great point is the fact that you can drop in, if you do crossfit, oh, I'm going to guess that there must be kind of similar with weight lifting in here and the methodology is the same. But I've been in Hawaii, Bali, Thailand over the last three years and I've done CrossFit and all of those okay, like literally three corners of the world. Every single one of the places, even if you can't speak the language, everyone knows

what you're doing. Everyone's welcome in. There you go. Like wallballs, these wallballs. Nine kilos is here, it's the same in Hawaii, it's a light or wherever you are. Sorry. So Sunni has got to, what Sunni going to do?

No. I think Sunni's just going to have a quick afternoon tea with Rich Browns. Come to the Queen, his neck, have a tea with Queen. Right, two wet the baby's head, right? The new Royal Baby. I'm fucking this name. This name.

So guys, thank you very baby. I'm fucking this man. So guys, thank you very much. I appreciate your time. We'll look tomorrow, but Cancer, when this is out, everyone will know exactly how you've got on. Yeah, thanks so much for having us really appreciate it. Even if you don't win, you've definitely won most Instagram followers I think on one team. Yes, so definitely you have most chained legs or something. Yeah, it's what I need to judge about. So heavy as team, maybe, will be heavy as team. If you want to watch the funniest people do, or if an under's, like me and Sonny

will definitely be the funniest people to watch. Do it that way. That's gonna be good. You try to get over them. You try to get underneath me. It just turns into a piggyback. Does that get stuck? That's good.

That's good. John, Leon from the machines. Zach, Sonny, good luck this, doesn't it? I guess, stuck. That's good. Thanks for the on-premise. Thanks for the on-premise. Thanks for the on-premise. Thanks for the on-premise. Thanks for the on-premise. Thanks for the on-premise. Thanks for the on-premise.

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