Modern Wisdom - #054 - Catch Up 101

Episode Date: March 4, 2019

Welcome to a brand new series, featuring the long awaited return of Jonny & Yusef from PropaneFitness.com These Catch Up episodes will have no agenda, no topics for us to focus on, it's just me, Jonny... & Yusef talking about what we've been watching or read in the news or what's going on in our lives. This week we're talking Liam Neeson, Fyre Festival, Meditation Retreats, Jonny appearing on Pointless, Yusef being rear ended and much more. Extra Stuff: https://propanefitness.com/ Check out everything I recommend from books to products and help support the podcast at no extra cost to you by shopping through this link - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi friends, this week it is the long awaited return of Johnny and Yusif from propanefitness.com and it's the start of a new series. These catch up episodes are going to have no agenda, no topic that we're particularly trying to cover. It's just going to be an update of what we've been reading in the news and looking at and listening to recently and probably a lot of weird stuff from Yusif as per usual. I want you to thank everyone who has supported this over the last few weeks. The play count is just going through the roof. Just topped 5 million listen minutes over the last 12 months, which is just blowing my mind. Please continue to share the episodes.
Starting point is 00:00:37 It's such a massive help. And don't forget to get in touch at Chris Willex on all social media. Also I have so many episodes backed up now that I might actually start doing two a week. I was thinking maybe one on a Monday and one on a Thursday, during the weeks where I've got quite a lot to release. So if you think that's a good idea, let me know.
Starting point is 00:00:58 But for now, please welcome Johnny and Yusif from ProPaint Fitness. Johnny and Yusififf from propin fitness.com. It's been a long while. Welcome back. Welcome. Thank you. Welcome to us. So today we're doing a catcher episode No agenda no topics in hand other than just what's been going on in our lives recently So what's been going on in your life recently Jonathan? What have you been doing? I was drawing this to the hospital. There you go. I have been on TV today. Love Island.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Love Island in 2019. Christ. Love Island. You can think of anything worse than going to love Island. You're not allowed to. There are some worse things. Ads manager is. You wouldn't be able to do Facebook ads.
Starting point is 00:01:58 So why were you on TV? God. So I was basically put on TV, but as someone who wanted to go and pointless, but didn't have a partner So if you if you don't watch pointless It's a it's aired. I think it's six days a week in the UK. You've ever seen pointless. No You probably see a bit that I was in yeah, right? So that was very much like me before I realized like on the train on the way down I should probably watch an episode of this So in a hot spot quickly getting up at the right time
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah, so there's a man he asked me to say it was in the in like the the warm up that you arrive I'm in the room and the woman said sometimes people get to this point they haven't seen an episode of the show I'm like Like I said that is a common problem then it's not like I know No, no, no, it only could she was making that out common problem then. It's not like, because I know you're going to be the only person. She was making that out of B. At least it's not that bad. You know, at least it's not that ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And you're just like, no, no, no, no. Because when you're there, you're in that world, and everyone's there, taking a very seriously, and the fact that you think it's all pointless and stupid, pointless, isn't funny. And it's not funny to you either, because you're about to go on national TV and potentially be made look at an absolutely prick
Starting point is 00:03:06 But it actually went alright Actually went alright. Can you tell us about your jumper? Oh yeah, no, so I called Johnny the date the date before he had to go down He's the day of I can't talk. I'm in primark. I'm having a nightmare I wasn't allowed to wear any of my jumpers and I have to get a plane orange, green or blue jumper. I couldn't be green. So the blue, I have my theme sex. I've actually got the green Pacific blue. Okay. Which is why it was the blue that I was wearing. And you only have navy. So you're not the biggest problem is you're not allowed anything with a logo. Yeah. And you've also had an embroidery
Starting point is 00:03:41 that's three centimeters tall. Like visible only from up close, but was too much. So that's all my clothes, you can't even tag, didn't you? Yeah, so can they not just stick that on top of the load? It depends on the position. So the name tags also have a very... They try and line the name tags up because I'm taller than... Has to be at the mid-term.
Starting point is 00:03:58 So was yours if you were bellybutt? Mine was, yeah. I don't know. It was slightly... That was mid-thigh. it's just not up to his. But yeah, it was, it was fine. It was quite stressful, but it came across very well. Thanks. I'm excited. Anyone who has not seen Johnny's episode of POTENESS is now available on BBC iPlayer and we'll be with you. He's been x29 days. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:19 He's hoarse. You need to go and watch it. No, do you know what, episode number is? 12. Thank you. Is that a joke? No. I'll, if I can find out, I'll put a link in the show notes below. So go and watch. You said what's been going on in your life? What's been happening? I've just been deep in the work cave. Unfortunately, there's not. But you can see from my pasty complexion, I'm racially Arab and you wouldn't know. It's all been sucked out of here. Yeah. So I've got my finals coming up. So in three months time, if I pass, then...
Starting point is 00:04:50 Doctor. Doctor. You could be looking at someone's elements. So there's semi-finals now. So these are the semi-finals now. And then you get qualified at the final. It's a tournament and the premiership. There's a round robin, isn't there?
Starting point is 00:05:04 A lead start. That's all the football words I know. On the outside. Premier ship. Premier ship. Are you showing off? You're showing off with your double pitch, you know? I've got a slightly tight left hip. As always happens, you're on the right side of this. I think so. It's a different so. I've seen you on that podcast with the giant.
Starting point is 00:05:26 There was someone who commented another video saying why is that blonde guy so big? Yeah, and you're like because you were just like That was when you were at peak 105 kilos as well Wasn't it the interesting thing so there's another episode of pointless right this yet to air So I thought it was gonna be on tonight wasn It wasn't on tonight, it says obviously a gap because there was a gap in filming of like three months. And in that time, I think I gained about five kilos and grew my hair. So you look like a consultant.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So I did. So fair enough. You've ruined the content. I bet they were about to run them day by day and then I fucking, I like, that's what I'm like. We can't have. Because they say like try not to change your appearance and I'm for that. Sorry mate, but I just commenced on project top not.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I just need to be able to. You can just use it up a way, cut. It's like when in the intro, but with like, oh Johnny, hello, welcome. What do you do? And you were like, I'm an online fitness coach. And they were like, well, what's that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 You know, you work in a gym at home and then you tell people, no, no, that, no, no, pajamas One of the lads the other day had a scapegoat of you for a placement and One of the boys that he lives with took a photo from the side and he'd gone full suit from the way stuff and boxes That's the trevv have done old Yeah, what's been happening in Chris? Inside of Chris. Inside of Chris' company.
Starting point is 00:06:51 We went to a... What is there in your water? A pub. I don't think it's a pub. Maybe it's one of my beard hair. It's like most likely. It's the most likely. It's funny how you just assume short hair is a pew.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Short hair. It's more likely to be someone saying there's a pub is very year nine. So yeah, I see jeans called pubes. I mean, better. Yeah, I mean, thinks that another year nine thing wearing the chain with you all the time Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah school trousers Clip it on and then it comes back and you all like this new pocket. Yeah, okay, so I was gonna Stay people used to wear South Park characters on their jeans. You remember them
Starting point is 00:07:36 It's like we're just have a little Ken or a little Kai, yeah seven Stan flat hair and then yeah Yeah, and the quick ways, the shock waves, well, what look? Shock waves or brittle? Yeah, we went to a meditation retreat, didn't we? We did, we did it one day in one monastery called Harnam. Harnam, a Ruta Nagiri in Balsal say, beautiful place. It was amazing, but it was really difficult for anyone who is considering doing a meditation retreat. It's really fucking hard It's a physical part of it. It's hard isn't it? It's just staying awake
Starting point is 00:08:10 Like you know really being being sedentary but also staying awake but having your eyes closed Like it's an odd blend of it's an odd blend of uh, so where did he sit on the outside inside? So we did pretty much 50-50 of either walking or feel out as in outside meditation versus feel-in sitting. So I was sat in a bean bag or walking around a lake which was pretty beautiful. But is there like a room in the monastery that you go to? There's a number of rooms. So we went and sat in the Dharma Hall where they got sandalwood burning and a big big Buddha statue and just a rack full of different cushions and you can choose like the cushion based on your
Starting point is 00:08:49 preference. And with other people there. Pretty much no one. Quite quiet. They should speak to us at Voodoo events that we get that place. They fill it. Yeah, buzzing. But they've loved that.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Yeah, VIP cushions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Huge jump cushions. Yeah, exactly. By one, get one free that. Yeah, like VIP cushions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Huge jump cushions. Yeah, exactly. By one, get one for you cushion. Yeah, that's all of the above. What else has been happening?
Starting point is 00:09:11 A lot of podcasting. A lot of podcasting podcasted with Rory Sutherland, which you enjoyed. Anyone who has not listened to the episode with Rory Sutherland, go and check it out now if you're going to be in the show. Just on Facebook. Chris getting absolutely pied when he's in the room. Raleigh is.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah, it is excellent. Good episode. So during the podcast with Rory, the British gasman Chris getting absolutely pied when he's really... Ray O'Reilly is. Yeah, it is excellent. Good episode. So during the podcast with Rory, the British gasman came round to fix his boiler, so he'd had a problem. And Rory's a little bit like, can that Brian Blessed from Black Adder?
Starting point is 00:09:35 And he's like, big sort of gruff British man, he speaks like the end of everything to be fucking shit is it. And yeah, the British gas guy came round. And we say, I've cut bits out, but I had to, oh, I endured the entirety of the exchange and it was just hilarious. This British Gaskai comes back after he's setting away and westerly podcast Oh, I've been crushed one second. What's that? It's all, oh, bloody, oh, ready. Yeah, we had three leaks actually, going one at the top, one in the middle, one at the bottom. I must give you 20 pounds.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It's okay. No, it's absolutely fine. No, no, no, no, I insist. Having good, having, what day is it? I, it's Friday. Have a, have a, have a good weekend. And then he just back on the podcast. And he hasn't put his head thumbs in yet. And I didn't realize. And I said, Rory, is that a smart watch you wearing? Right. So, Asia. For anyone who's listening, it just sounds like I've had the biggest cream pie ever. So I was going to ask you to wear the retip them,
Starting point is 00:10:50 because I just heard that, no, no, no, no, I insist. Yeah, I think he got 20 quid up as well and gave it to him. He, the thing that I really liked about him is the way he swears. Very tactical. Yeah, because you know when sometimes people use swearing as filler, the way he swears really makes it sound better. It's a bad situation.
Starting point is 00:11:11 It's a bad situation. Yeah. Because he said fucking. Fucking hell. Yeah. Brilliant. It's because it's very deliberate. I think some people swear when they're thinking of words and buying for time.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Or when, yeah. Yeah. Where else is this supposed to be? You do that, you constantly. Or the sight of the time. But it's idiosyncratic as well for a lot of people, whereas his is very deliberate, very precise speech, which I think is that precise speech is one of the, if you're designing a good podcast guest, all of the best podcasts that I've done with people who are precise with the speech, there's nothing more or less than they need to say, and they say exactly
Starting point is 00:11:42 what they need to. I just think his opinion, I feel such an affinity with him because of his opinion towards the shut-offer, which is the bum spray, the high pressure. Bums spray, the use, because he was like, let's see. In what other world would you get a bit of poo on your face and just wipe it off with a bit of dry paper and we find it, it's just great, I mean it's absolutely barbaric. In what I think, the aromps, they've gotic. They've got it, right? Haven't they? I don't know. I feel about this.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Well, the other bum spray. Yeah. It was wet toilet paper. People think it's just for fucking perverts, don't they? People with medical problems. So he says that if we put those pre-wetted toilet papers, rather than on the top shelf of the supermarket, where it looks like the pervert shelf, if you just put it somewhere that's really accessible, then you can turn it into a mainstream thing. I was saying this user, like, his job is just to sit
Starting point is 00:12:36 and think, isn't it? At the top of a big organization, you just got a big chair in a room. Sit down, just sit with the field. about like, where might the world be going? So you'd, if you go on Ogle of his website, and you see this on there, is he? No, no, he is. So I employ you to go on and have a look. And it says, Rory Sutherland, vice chairman of Ogle of the advertising.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And below that, by swathe God, one of the first couple of sentences is something akin to Rory created his own job title which is purposefully vague. Like, is there a chance? Yeah, there will be. But it must be on the board, I'm going to presume as well. But then there's like Ogle the UK, Ogle the blah blah blah.
Starting point is 00:13:19 David Ogle the is dead. Yeah. So that's the set of this massive. All over the world of this massive all over the world. But yeah, I mean, when he was some of the stuff he said about like, I do think that the Russians are probably pretty shit drivers on balance. But that's because of that everyone's every car seems to come with a blank road traffic camera in the front of it. So speaking of which, that's another, so I've been re-arended twice in the last month. In a car.
Starting point is 00:13:50 In a car. In a car. Yeah. One was my fault, one wasn't. So the guy who was my fault paid for the one who wasn't, so I'm break even. But if I had two great experiences in the middle of it. Two incredible experiences.
Starting point is 00:14:03 You know what it is? As soon as you feel that impact, the sense is not like, I'm a neck, it's just all of the admin flak. It's all for like, oh my god, the paperwork. Oh, it's so, it's such, it has way more painful than any whiplash could do, because you're like, there is certainly something afoot here. There's, I think, I-
Starting point is 00:14:29 He's coming clusters like that. Well, I'd love to know. So I have a theory that people with dash cams get any more accents than people with dash cams. Ironically, my dash cam, I got a crap one and it didn't record when it actually needed to work. So got re-rendered the first time, tried to take my dash cam out, plug it into the computer, and records like 30 second clips of journeys that I've done five years ago. Nothing about the absolute I'll have. And then because it was still at home, I was trying to get the footage from it. And it got re-wrote the second one. So I'm just going to get rid of it and buy a dual-facing one because you think most
Starting point is 00:15:05 I've done a lot. Did you just have one facing in one direction? Just a front facing. Okay, yeah. So I mean, the dual-facing one that connects to your phone or Wi-Fi is almost impossible. Really? Yeah, the review in the market. Someone who has access to small portable video cameras.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Does it just record under a hard drive and then reset? Record on-dope. Yeah, and then it has some of them have a sensor. So if it has an impact, it will save the last 10 minutes. So I mean a lot of the like stuff like Canary is, I think it's 28 days, that records on cloud and then after 28 days it'll just... I think more Canary. Home security. Yeah, like same as Nest or whatever, whatever. Speaking of which, Darren got a Nest, I think I've told you this before. He got a Nest, which is like a smart thermostat for your house. And because he's him and his wife have got a young child and dogs and he has a chaotic working environment.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Like there's no content. Sorry. Is that I mean, vibrating phone during a podcast is that is that, is that, what do you want me to do? Is it, like, turning on silent? That's on silent. But it vibrates. Yeah. Is that what happens at night?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Uh, yeah. That's disgusting. It's only good things, I've told you. That's disgusting. I don't mind, who doesn't mind being working up by a really good thing? That is a story that, I don't know whether we've mentioned this, where I came to pick Johnny up at 7 a.m. for a competition. We were going to Leeds. I think we are.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Okay, go on, go on. Went to his family home, knocked on his door a few years ago. My mom's at the door and I was like, have you seen Johnny? She was like, no, I've not seen him. I don't know where he is. And I just hear footsteps running down the stairs. Johnny's like, bleary eyed. What time is it? It's like 7.25. Like, oh god. And he was like, right, you know what's happened? My Apple watch at 4am woke me up and just said, beep beep. You've been sat down too long time to get up.
Starting point is 00:16:54 So I got up and like, and then my girlfriend was like, what are you doing, Johnny? He tried. It's four in the morning. I was like, oh. So, he went, so didn't know what I'm supposed to do. So he went back to sleep and then it didn't wake him up. Well, when he was,
Starting point is 00:17:11 when he actually needed it. This is when we try and optimize too hard. Like, so there was a good tweet that John Puyot yesterday, George Puyot yesterday, saying about asymmetric risks and one of the biggest things. Is that who it was? Yeah. Right. Well, because of our Avocans via George. Oh, I got it. But it wasn't Navajo, was it? It was Navajo
Starting point is 00:17:31 Avocans bot, which is owned by George. If you are on Twitter, check out Navajo Matters. It's Navajo bot, NAVAL BOT and it's just like aphorisms that are unbelievable on on loop. One of the biggest, I think, one of the biggest asymmetrical risks is single alarm clock. It's dangerous. Like, one day when it fails, that's the day you can't really really need it. So it's asymmetric risks and asymmetric benefits. Opportunity option. So in other words, the size of the game is smaller than the risk.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yeah, the size of the risk is smaller than the cost. Actually, in a position where the small stoplights and very large take profits. So the opportunities. Yeah, so what's the other one? The smaller side. Small upside, massive dust. So for me. Texting while driving.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah, texting while driving. Texting another person while you're in a relationship is another one. massive dancers. So for me, texting while driving. Yeah, texting while driving, texting another person while you're in a relationship is another one. Like you're going to get a very limited upside benefit to that. We're doing your texts with another person. Yeah. Was it you that said, like, if you would, if you had to show the text that you were writing while driving in court? Ben. Yeah. Yeah. And like, let's see how the crash or you kill someone you hit a pedestrian and then in court they're like well what text were you writing and you're like Lol, or like just so fucking vapid shit. Yeah, it is the trouble is When you're next in the car watch how many people come in the other way are looking at the road so few people
Starting point is 00:19:02 Yeah, and then you think if they they they're off, what am I going to do? So with automated car, it was self driving cars, apparently there's like a it's like a hundred or a thousand fold less risk to die by a self driving car than it is. So this is this is what people prefer to be like they're scared of self driving cars because they would prefer to die by their own hand, even if there's a hundred or thousands of me, me and you both quote tweet thedriving cars because they would prefer to die by their own hand even if there's a hundred or thousands of people. Me and you both quote tweeted the same thing that we would prefer to die by our own volition than live at the behest of a machine.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Unbelievable. You're like, suppose it's when machine goes wrong. It's the destroying a planet to make paperclip scenarios. So the problem the problem that people have with it is that for some reason they're prepared with a huge amount of real risk that comes from humans, a huge amount of human risk, but this tiny, and then they obsess about, well, what if it's a mother of three versus a pram with a baby? And you're like, which is not ever going to happen. Well, even if it does, like, you make that decision. Yeah, okay, so it's a utilitarian, it's not how better to leave that decision
Starting point is 00:20:06 in the hands of a human who's gonna be like, oh, kill them both. Oh, crush and I'll kill 10 people. Yeah. I just let Tesla just make a, like, a judge of value and cost of life and just make the best decision. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I'll solve everything to Elon Musk. Yeah. I'll tell you what else I've been listening to recently, the end of the world with Josh Clark. That's Hans. Cheery. Link will be in the show now to below. It is the most advanced and clever use of the podcast platform that I've listened to so far. So if you can imagine a 10 episode podcast series where he is talking about different existential threats, asteroids, AI risks, physics experiments, all sorts, everything, very, very comprehensive. And the entire show has been engineered
Starting point is 00:20:54 by very, very clever sound engineers and this soundscape's going on in the background. So as he's talking about traveling through space, there's like, wishing space sounds and kind of low level music and rumbling when he'll talk about asteroids. It's gonna be great on three times speed. Just whiten up the steering wheel. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:21:17 That is such a unique thing. I don't listen to... So I do listen to audiobooks in two times speed. I listen to podcasts as they are. I think I see a podcast as leisure, but an audiobook is like, I'm reading this for work to gain information. I do.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I see all audio as wasting your time. How do I consume it as rapidly? To be honest, three times pushes my limit a bit. But because it's like, you can't even get. So the only way that you can get three times speed is by going at the specific kinds of apps. So even if you hack, if you're listening now on Apple podcasts, I employ you to try this out. If you press the multiplication thing, it'll go 1.5, 2, 0.5. So I'm using a new podcast app called Castro, which is excellent, but it only has like 1.2, 1.5 up to 2
Starting point is 00:22:09 And then the next beat up is 3 and 2 is too slow for me and 3 is a little bit too fast, but Would you like an egg? I'm a big big cast. Oh, oh, oh, oh My bedroom was the living room. So I was on the sofa and you said was very unwell the entire time. And I just could I'd wake up to two mornings. The first morning I woke up to it. You said standing wearing a woolen hat and some shorts cooking on a portable hub in the corner of a room. That thing bleem me away, by the way. The portable hob. Yeah, it's like a, if you close a laptop and make it twice as thick.
Starting point is 00:23:12 That's a hob. And it's a, yeah, it's a hob. How's it generating the heat? Unbelievable. Yeah, so. It just mildly spaces it in slow and slow. So he says like crouched over this hob with a pan turns around and says would you like an egg single egg boiled egg That was what it was off from here for my breakfast, which I declined I believe I think we only had three left
Starting point is 00:23:32 So it was just gonna be And then we bought some Lucky charms, yeah, which were the cheapest cereal in Iceland? 9400 pounds This was a first set of 9.5 pounds There's a discount yeah 9.5 grand a gallon of supposed to be 9.5 pounds. There's a discount. 9.5 grand, get it at the supermarket,
Starting point is 00:23:47 then 9.5 grand for... Should we talk about five festivals again? I've already talked about it with Alex Coltaz, but it's just so good. Did you watch this? I've seen it now, yeah. Have you? Yeah, you really watch it.
Starting point is 00:23:56 At normal speed. Normal speed. You and Ben's recommendation. Did you watch it with Amy? Yeah. So I can even... The only times I'm forced to watch things at normal speed are, if there's other people in the world. You just got it.
Starting point is 00:24:07 When you say something that doesn't fit into, this is what you have to do, you've got to find the reason why. That's a justification. Right, is it your own well? Or is it? It's your own well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 So one of my favorite to say where before we don't, five festival, one of my favorite things is where you say, you can have a five pound discount on massages that you give people. So you're a trained massages. You offer people a five pound discount if they allow you to listen to whatever podcast or audio book you're listening to at the time. But obviously if you flip that and it's head what you could look at is there is a five pound search charge if you don't want to listen to one of them. That's a good point. £5 is so arbitrary as well, isn't it? Is it enough that you'd probably sit and think like?
Starting point is 00:24:53 I do. Because also, someone will say yes, because I remember Gibos saying he was having a, he was like, you're so skinny in my side. I was just, something about funnel marketing. I touched the size and your chin. I understand it, but I think it was okay, I suppose. I mean, you got straddle options and you rush an equity market. It's actually you should charge people for that. But for the sake of my stuff, I'm actually rate excellent educational content for you.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Well, one of its paid. I could either part of a nine grand a year degree or on a paid program or... That's a good point, actually. It is value-adding, but it's just... Very specific. They recognize the value. Not if you're on LSEND.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Not if you're on LSEND, yeah. Yeah. And then to book end that conversation, when you've finally got onto the life hack of getting your haircut at home, haven't you? Yeah, I have. Thank you. But before the hairdresser went round to his, she texted me to say, like, hang on a second,
Starting point is 00:25:56 I'm about to go round to this person's house that I've never met before. I probably should think about my own safety, Izzy, Izzy, a weirdo. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:26:23 I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm that he's not a touchy kind of, no, but tie you up weirdo. It's just, it's what's, you make you feel uncomfortable. So what I had in my head and I knew it was going to happen and sure enough it did was that Yusuf was going to be sat down and he would be forced to make small talk with someone in his house, but he would know that at that point all that you needed to do would be like press the play button, but button. But there's too many. You know like that as your on-ramp, like introduction, use SIF 101. Like you can't have use SIF 101 as...
Starting point is 00:26:52 Well that's... Oh god, you know what I'm saying? And I'm messaging to the next day and I was like, did he make... did he play anything and then she was like, no, no, I was like, fucking. No, I did sit, so I gave her a 10 minute grace period of small talk. And then I was like, right, I think we've reached the threshold of like, I've established that I am a not that I can pretend to be a normal enough human for 10
Starting point is 00:27:14 minutes. Hey, do you know, I'm just into the middle of the podcast. Can I and I was like, you know what, I'll be nice. Let's put the speed to a normal thing. I put it on like 1.2 and hope she wouldn't notice. I think I put it on like 1.2 and hope she wouldn't notice it. But it was Stan Groff talking about the psychoanalytic map of human consciousness. I'm sure that she loved that. She spends all day hearing people talk about reveal magazine. Well, it's quite a...
Starting point is 00:27:42 It was like the cartography of archetypes of Jesus Christ. Give me an architecture, yeah. So, five-fessor, tell me what you think, because I'm absolutely fucking amazed. So for anyone that doesn't know, I suppose, fire was a really impressively, it was a festival. It was an app. Okay, so it started off as an app, and then they decided to launch a festival off the back of it. Very good at hype. They hired a lot of supermodels and high definition, high production value stuff to go and film the promo for a festival, our in the Bahamas, buying one of Pablo Escobar's old islands and they were going to host it there. So they said. And so they made it look like an amazing experience, got a lot of high-profile
Starting point is 00:28:31 people, a bit weird, like Blink 182 and Jar Rule, like all like captains of 1996. And so they then, you know it's amazing that you would have looked at that lineup and gone, I've heard of that. What the fuck are you saying? It sounds okay. I think I'll put my ticket on to 10,000. So what do you want? I've heard of those people.
Starting point is 00:28:53 So obviously it all fell down when they actually went to implement it and realized that the island had no infrastructure, the organisation was a complete mess and just seeing the whole thing progressively fall apart. The way the documentary is made is so impressively stressful as well to do find this where like you start there and you're like, oh, my my empathy as a business person just had me like I was white knuckling. I was thinking it's right a few or three because it's like, yeah, well I mean, any of the cut promoters that listening is just it's right a few or three because it's like yeah, well, I mean, if you're any of the cut promoters that are listening, it is just it's all of our worst nightmares rolled into one.
Starting point is 00:29:29 At what point could you tell that it was going to go wrong? Game over. I realized that I thought premise of the show pretty soon, I think. Like as soon as they talk, because it's the stuff that you don't think about the infrastructure of things like bio waste disposal. Like the problem wasn't selling the events. Getting rid of poo. Where'd you put the poo? Like an island. 100,000 dollars worth of heavy on water. The Oxtirector had to go and suck off the
Starting point is 00:29:55 customs officer. And I turned up there, fully prepared to suck his dick. And you're like, he got loads of positive. He's a legend. Oh yeah. Do you know what the other thing is? It doesn't, there's a way. It's true. But so yeah, I mean, it could be a bit weird. Yeah. I thought it was, it was really, really, I've watched it twice now.
Starting point is 00:30:19 That's how much I enjoy. I thought very sorry for him. I'm actually going to have to. Billy McFarlard. No, I felt very sorry for the, the, the, the dick. It's a dick, man. It, it's, that's really sorry for him. I actually got him. Billy McFarlane. No, I thought the very sorry for the next day, man. It's, that's really arrogant of him. Because basically the customs officer held
Starting point is 00:30:28 was 100,000 liters. $100,000 worth. I think it was like, 143 articulated lorries were. Okay, so I want to. $140,000 custom charge. And the guy said that he was gonna go over because the customs officer was gay and tried to seduce him.
Starting point is 00:30:44 No, no, no, no, no, everyone told him that this was what he had to do. It's what he had to do. Yeah, so he was like, common-dead as like, you're the highest profile gay man that we've got. He's still so arrogant to think like, for me to give someone a blowjob, it's worth $140,000. Like, that's supposed to just all you've got at that point, isn't it? Like, it's either that or what would you have done if it was the other way around who would pay that much? I don't think anyone's ever paid $140,000 in good blood. You're absolutely 140
Starting point is 00:31:15 Why not? Because you just find someone that we're willing to take 139 In the moment of the transaction Is that the process of what you're asking I was just wondering what you were saying. How's he paid it? Stripe. Oh, 2.9% charge. You were just sickening. But if you absorb that, if you absorb that as the as the vendor, you'd be like for
Starting point is 00:31:36 140 grand blotger. Are you a registered business? You could claim that back on the transaction. Yeah, you could. No, I don't think you could. What's the input that there is not? It's a nightmare. It's an absolute nightmare. It's fucking perilous. Is anyone for a new round of the job? But yeah, I mean, one of the main things, I said this to Alex on the
Starting point is 00:31:56 podcast was that the big difference in this show's house seduced we are by success. The only reason that everyone slates that the guy that ran it and the festival itself is because it failed. And if the stars had aligned sufficiently correctly and a bunch of very lucky things, the water had got sorted and the tents have got sorted and it wasn't that weekend where all of the yachts were there and the violin and yeah and it hadn't rained and missed any other, a bunch of things basically his preparation and skill level and virtue and integrity hadn't moved at all on the meter, but all of the luck was turned up to 11 and it all worked fine.
Starting point is 00:32:33 So if it was still fraudulently gaining... Oh yeah, oh yeah. That's a capital and all that stuff. But things have been successful. We'd be hailing him as the fucking... Yeah. And it's purely because we are so seduced by success we want to be attached to success so much that it is by any means possible so I think it's I think he's pretty smart bloke so I think six years in jail now is it yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:32:58 not that's not so bad obviously yes that that part's not smart, but I think the... There are not very many people who could guess something to that point. Did you trust him? Do you think he was a charismatic guy? No, you don't trust him, I don't think. I thought it was across the wall that it was trustworthy. He's got something weird about it. Even as he's got a strange gate when he walks. It's charming.
Starting point is 00:33:22 He's obviously got some sociopathic kind of like detachment tendencies. Is facial expression looked as if they were engineered? Do you know what I mean? As if he'd like thought, how can I like... He was metacognisant for the entire time. I mean like he was thinking like what would Billy McFarlane say in this moment? Yeah. And apparently there's a hula version which I'm yet to watch. There's this same thing but different documentary and the Hulu version focuses a lot more on him. Which I'm looking forward to watching. Apparently in that there's a bit some footage from when he's in court. Is this fucking crazy American system where you can just like take a camera in a court? Not just watch what's going on. And yeah Apparently there's this bit where they say,
Starting point is 00:34:06 basically, did you say this? He says no, and they say his video of you saying that you did say it. And you can see apparently that, like he's... There's like a cognitive dissonant. I'm just thinking of something. Yeah, where he's like, hang on a second. Like, I did, but I didn't, but I did, but I...
Starting point is 00:34:22 You're like, hang on. It's obvious that he's just got, he's a compulsive liar, yeah, who is unable to reconcile a number of different things. If you look at what he, I know he didn't, he delivered on the product, but the, the prep was very good. Like, someone's made a fucking documentary about him.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, about it. And so you think like, everyone's very quick to criticize and I completely understand that, but the is you made a you made a big wave Out of an idea you need to just put him in the marching department and have him just very good and fine Yeah, I mean, I don't let him near the ops like don't let him fucking order the coffee But even stuff like getting everyone to post an orange tile. Yeah, I thought it was so clever It's a very good idea. Just keep him like like cordoned off, give him a room, save him a whiteboard. Nick, you can stay in there mate.
Starting point is 00:35:08 In a camera, you can just do what you want. So do you think he was delusional or deceptive? Combination. Because I don't think that you can have that degree. I don't think there's any amount of deception which would allow you to continue something when it's obvious it's not going to work. Well, the one thing's good and wrong
Starting point is 00:35:24 and he was like, guys, we can't think about that. We're going to be possibly wrong. Resolution of the space business, not a problem to space business. It's not just like blind faith in his own ability and thinking, no, no, we're going to be positive about this. Like, just there's Tony Robbins that's as hard as we can. Or is it like, he knows that it's going wrong, but like, just doesn't want, he's holding it.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I think it's actually switched. So I imagine he didn't start off thinking, let's make this big scam. I'm actually starting off thinking this is going to work. And you know, when that guy like prices it all up and says, mate, this is like 30 million quid. And we've got six weeks to do it in. It's normally done in six months. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:00 That's what they said. Really? At that point, it's like fucking hell. I either shit off the pot here. like I better just go balls in with this Yeah, I just hope it would think the thing that was most impressive for me was where they were saying so we'd run out of money And then Billy would jump on a jet Hmm go back to New York and then he'd come back with another three million dollars Fuck it. And he'd be like Billy
Starting point is 00:36:23 What the fuck he's he's And he'd be like, Billy, what the fuck? He's, he's sucking, he's sucking like, whatever, 30, 30 bucks, that's what he's doing. Do you think that's what he was doing? 30 times 140 minus handling fee minus C. I see. So, right. I don't think that's really what he was doing. No, no, but he was just lying about his finances wasn't he to get the funding. Do you see that he said he held a number of Facebook options and he had like a 10 grand. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Like 5 grand. Yeah. Because his previous business was like he sold it for a really small amount. But it almost felt to me like somewhat, somewhat the gambling problem. Like, he loves to thrill a bit and doesn't want the idea to die. Some cost some cost. So I would just tell that lie and I'll just lie as well. It'll all work out in the end somehow. Like, the one term that we'll eventually play in my state needs to read some Harris. So he needs to do.
Starting point is 00:37:22 What's that called where the Chinese thing where they make you take incremental commitments that are slightly on off your moral radar, but because they're so small, you keep taking larger and larger ones until you're just deep down the hole and you don't brown. It's like a day, sure, it's not down. I think don't run probably leverages that process very much. It's the reverse of compounding interest, isn't it? It's like a number of small compounding bad decisions. And before you know it, you like strung up by your nipples in Russia's scene. It just seems fine because it was only one extra decision to be made for you.
Starting point is 00:37:57 One each time. Yeah. Have you seen the 10 Bundy tapes yet? Yeah. Have you seen it? Oh my god. You've seen something that you've seen. I startedy tapes yet? Yeah, no, have you seen it? Yeah, oh my god You've seen something that you've started I nearly I started watching it but I was I'm pretty fucking sorry It's a good. Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. Great. Yeah, it's exciting. It's just it's just a very Charismatic good-looking guy that happens to be a
Starting point is 00:38:19 Stemically naughty although there is still a divide between I think the person that he thinks he is and wants to try and be. Very much like the Billy thing actually is quite scary. That's what that's what I meant. There's another one that James Bailey recommended me to watch, which I've seen called abducted in plain sight. So I've watched that. That's fucking weird. It's so crisp. You should watch that. There's Maddie McCann on it.
Starting point is 00:38:43 No, similar. Oh my god. Why? Give us a synopsis. So that's the part of the three shows that you've mentioned that's easily the... And it gets the best metal. I was like, I stood up to get a drink. Right, I'm walking to the fridge and someone says something and I turned round and went,
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah. I was like, I can't believe you should be spoilt it for the audience. I don't spoil it. Don't spoil it. Well, I mean there's a scene where a guy There's two men in a car. Yeah, who do you know the bit about it? Yeah, but I feel like the preamble is the most like Like what led to that point is makes it seem even more ridiculous. Okay. I'm not sure. Okay. Well, so basically it's a family, three daughters, they made friends with another family.
Starting point is 00:39:34 The husband of the other family developed a developed a friendship and he developed a particular proclivity for one of the daughters. Jan, he would, the parents were aware of it, and they were like, oh yeah, it kind of angered us, but we thought, you know, whatever carried on. And then he would end up staying over at their house multiple times, staying in Jan's bed. One day, the father was away,
Starting point is 00:39:56 wasn't able to take Jan to horse riding class. He said, oh, I'll do it. Drugter took her away, abducted her for several days. The parents didn't call the police or the FBI until five days later, because they were like, oh, maybe they're just, I was writing or something. That's the tip of the iceberg. Is the tip of the iceberg?
Starting point is 00:40:11 The tip of the iceberg. And so then, and prior to that as well, what turned out was that the man had made sexual advances towards the wife of the other family. And so they have lots of career, so she felt hesitant to actually go to the authorities about and then later the husband and This other guy had gone on a camping trip and husband was like and we were sad in the van and
Starting point is 00:40:36 He he looked over at me and he had an erection. He was like man. I just need some relief Would he help me out? He held help brother out? And I was like, so I performed an act of masturbation. And I'm just like, and you're like, what the fuck is going on? So he's managed to have sex with both of the parents from the agency and abduct the child, and then tried to marry it. Eventually, he manages to return the child back to the house. With a receipt.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Did he have proof of purchase? Yes, he did. They don't speak to him for a few weeks. And then he becomes mates with him again, to return the child back to the house. With the receipt. Did you have proof of purchase? Proof of purchase. They don't speak to him for a few weeks, and then he becomes mates with him again, stays back at a house over an abductor a second time. Oh. And when he's abducted a second time, the parents then know that this happened,
Starting point is 00:41:16 and they know that he's had previous convictions of being a child abductor, but he said to them, oh, don't worry, I'm recovered now, but part of my therapy is to stay in the bed with little girls and the parents are like, oh, sounds legit, okay. I'm not saying they let him stay in the bed.
Starting point is 00:41:31 There's a bit where it's like he was sleeping in a room five nights of every seven in her bed, in her parents house. Six months. I like. But it's a very similar thing where. The parents completely arranged. Well, no, again, this is one of these questions
Starting point is 00:41:44 with, are they delusional? Are they complicit? Again, it starts off with, I just wanted to take a horse riding once and then very quickly becomes this mess of just... It makes you so clear. The parents. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like completely like that. It's great that you're watching these things. I've just been steamed rolled into watching. But it's just like completely like it's great that you're watching these things. I've just been steamed rolled into watching. But it's a thing. I feel like regular TV is brain dead pointless, but stuff like this is really interesting. It's true that it must be as palatable as you can make television. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:42:20 It's quite a complex plot. There's quite a lot of information. Big mixture of emotions. Yeah. Because the thing is as well, like no one ever has this conversation about Coronation Street. Like, eee, did you see the complexities of the metacognition of Roy Cromer? And he's like, no. Oh no. Because it's all just... Can's all... So funny enough, there would be no Coronation street plot that even came close to the ridiculousness and that's real yeah and
Starting point is 00:42:49 this actually happened that is true you couldn't make this stuff or you couldn't when I was making murder at Liam Neeson I saw one thing of it and then I was like I see if you if you stuck with that it's a very similar thing where it gets down and you like I can't believe this is happening if you watch with that. It's a very similar thing where it gets down and you're like, I can't believe this is happening. Have you watched the second season? No. Second season's not as good, but just like the first season span 20 years, right?
Starting point is 00:43:13 Pretty much of time, right? Yeah, the second one spans since then until now. So it's like, they're gonna have to stretch this. But they've got the lady lawyer who is representing him. Oh yeah, she was a pro-month fucker. An absolute like prop-up. We live in the big mini-gun and just pointed it out to you. When the noise is so uniform, it's like one single hum.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah, yeah. There's another one called The Staircase. You see that? No. It's about a guy who gets a guy's in the house with his wife, and his wife dies by falling down the stairs, and the police arrive, but there's like blood all down the stairs, like smeared everywhere,
Starting point is 00:43:56 and he's like, she's just fell down the stairs. Is it in the UK? No, it's in the US, and he's a famous author. Fiction. No, it's proper, like police tapes and people are like, and we came to the house and she's in a right mess like, I don't know how to everywhere, like all of the war and everything and he's like, yeah, she's just supposed to fall in love. And that's great as well. It'll be this camera footage that vindicates her where she just absolutely stacks
Starting point is 00:44:19 it up. My sister's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's a bloody slut. Reminds me of this video. It went viral a few years ago of this guy who breaks up with his wife. Do you know about this? He creates like a trail, like a violent, a shot. Oh, shit. Yes. Have you seen this?
Starting point is 00:44:36 It's really savage. I'll try and find it and link it in the show now to below. Yeah, it's like an incremental set of videos. This guy founds out his wife's been cheating, then leads her on this like Valentine's Day scavenger hunt thing through the house to the bed and the bed's covered in roses. And it's at the end of it. So there's like a card and there's shape like a heart and just to go around, find the different things and there's a clue with money, she's a chocolate and she gets up to the bed and it's like
Starting point is 00:45:11 We will this is the final stage of our little trail We will then spend the next the next time at Northern Lights in the hail I finally have one more question for you when I get one done on one knee and ask you who the fuck is Thomas Roo? She looks like and he's just like see you later and he locks the door, puts the key through the door and he's like that's just proof so that the police know that I haven't got a key anymore and he drives off into the night singing into her dildo. Just films himself and like the whole time there's a lot of like excitement in his voice but you can hear the tone of sadness underneath it. That's the way to deal with it though. And like it's British as well isn't it? Yeah, it's like just Yorkshire or Leeds or something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:59 And the gut is very realistic and it's all filmed in like 916 vertical. Oh, right. On like a front facing camera for like. All right, darling, we, we clue number four. And then, okay, over to the next one, and we've got, and there's like, put like sparkles and glitter on the camera. You can't have like a psychotic event
Starting point is 00:46:16 when you've found out about it. It's like, masterminded this real, just access to another level of cognition because he's been so hurt by it. And then you're driving off with her dildo. It's the final level of thought. Yeah, I'm sure I'll want to get to that. That's actualization, isn't it? Actualization.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Don't self-actualization like the dildo. I mean, that muscles high raki of needs and then at the very, very top. It's just on the top is the tip of the dildo. The tip of the dildo. Liam Neeson, we're going to talk about Liam Neeson. This is a fucking minefield for us to get some background on. So for the people who don't know, Liam Neeson has a very particular set of skills. Yes, he does. Where he
Starting point is 00:46:52 does, and that's the issue. Liam Neeson, that's the first sound video guy, Dean's FMA, but he's not in the room. So Liam Neeson is promoting a new film, which I think is actually a dark comedy. I don't think it's actually an action film. It's a dark comedy about revenge, and during an interview he is asked, how do you understand the emotions that are going through this? And in his very sort of dark, slow, gravely kind of way. Irish voice, he says, well, I have a personal experience with this. A close friend of mine was raped and I asked her, did she know the person and she said no and I said, what ethnicity was she and she said it was a black man. So for the next few nights, I went out with a
Starting point is 00:47:45 cosh which is like a small baton walking the streets of Ireland in black neighborhoods looking for a black man to start on me so that I could kill him. And after a little bit of time I sort of caught myself and a lot of the emotions had drained a little and I was able to be shocked at my own degree of behavior, nothing had occurred, but that's how I'm able to embody or understand this particular degree of revenge. He talks about the shame that he felt on himself and said, I realize that even this was me feeling this in the context of living in Northern Ireland and seeing all of the atrocities that are done.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And yet still having fallen prey to that same thought loop and then realizing that actually I'm just as bad as them. And then yeah, so I guess he said he had that thought 40 years ago, was it? Yeah. And so people were slating him now. They called him a racist. For having a thought 40 years ago that he's recognized. He acted on it. He did.
Starting point is 00:48:49 He did act on it, yeah. Well, yeah, I suppose. It's supposed to be no consequence. Similar to what you said about the fire thing where like nothing was. Nothing happened. Yeah, I mean, so the thing that's, so do you see John Barnes. The four plays have come out saying he's a hero. And you're like, I mean, fair enough, John Barnes, the footballers have come out saying he needs a hero. And you're like, I mean, fair enough, John Barnes,
Starting point is 00:49:07 not the first person I'd think of to call on. No, no, no, very, very peculiar. Yeah, you know, where's that connection? Do you know if Liam needed to call on someone of like, a black heritage? You wouldn't be like, yeah, I'm gonna ring John Barnes. Like, you thought like, you know, Denzel, I bet you know, it's Denzel. Yeah, you would ring Denzel, you know Denzel, I bet you know Denzel. Yeah, very similar guys aren't they?
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah, like equalizer type. Denzel sort of motley. The insley Harriet. What? What Gravitasters' insley Harriet bring to the conversation or the lean block? He's an insley, he's an in-tick. He's insley, and it's not insley Harriet, but it's the advert for the travel lodge isn't it?
Starting point is 00:49:44 Give me a go, Rob. No, that's not Ainsie Harry that does the adverts for the travel lodge isn't it? Give me a go-do. Rob, get out of the circle. No, that's not. Chris? That's Lenny Harry, isn't it? That's a smid racist. Well no, the two similar aged British black TV personalities. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I think it's actually because Lenny Henry has a routine where he was approached by a certain media company saying, can you do this gig for us and they're slowly transpired that he was in. He was in the Harry lot. That's true. Yeah, so I think it's one of the routines that one of them has anyway. Okay. So, if you've seen all of the Inzi Harriet videos where people have like really taken it seriously. They've gone full video guide on it and Edited him down to the placa. It's gonna look quite scary.
Starting point is 00:50:33 They've put like horror music over the top and they're like, is that Inzi Harriet on the top of a cliff, can I? Well, I think he's like whisking this thing for ages. So darn it. And then he's rubbing meat and just give you a good old wrap, good old wrap. And there's a whole very harrowing series on YouTube of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Jesus, it'll be on Reddit or 4chan. Every time I have that, I honestly. I love how the internet does that. It just rolls with something. It's just, you know, you'll have no idea why. Yeah. So yeah, Liam Neeson and then John Barnes and there's been a, he's been a subject of an awful lot of division for it, which is mad
Starting point is 00:51:14 because you are right, like it was 40 years ago, it was something, the main question is can someone be held accountable for thoughts that they have because you are right, that's essentially all that happened. And the argument is, well, if it had been Irish man or if it had been a Swiss person or a German or a Asian or whatever it is, the racism wasn't racism. It wasn't racism against people of black heritage, it was tribalism against anyone from the tribe of people who were attacked as slaves. Later as Waldeni said, I was just looking for a symbol of my anger that I could.
Starting point is 00:51:53 It was an avatar, right? He was looking for someone to outlet that aggression onto. And Sam Harrison, Joe Rogan said, like, hit the nail on the head. And they were like, if you want people in the world to be able to learn from others mistakes, like that situation, you're not going to get much more perfect than this is a learning opportunity for everybody to understand someone who has everything to lose talking about a situation like this. So Liam Neeson with all of his qualities and virtues that everyone ad admised him for being this amazing actor and looking so cool and he's everyone's perfect uncle, isn't he really? Yeah. And you're like, and this guy has had the bravery to come out and even he,
Starting point is 00:52:36 as talented and famous as he is, is still false prey to these kind of juvenile... I suppose it's tribal. Should he not have thought it, or should he not have said that he thought it? Because those are the only two things that have happened. And people are criticizing him. So I'm sure most people have had a dark thought at some point in the life.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And so for the lesson is here, that you're not allowed, if you have a dark thought like that, you can't never tell your doctor. You never talk about it, yeah. Is it, is it if that's the solution? And then he got the, he got the car show and he walked out with it. So it's more than a dark thought, isn't it? That's what everyone's going to it. Yeah. Is it as if that's the solution? And he got the he got the car show and he walked out with it.
Starting point is 00:53:05 So it's more than a dark thought, isn't it? That's what everyone's going to say. Okay. Okay. So suppose it's that's an action of someone in a very emotional, very, he's very upset, very angry, taking a step towards acting on something, but chord himself before he did it. But it's still better than acting on it. But definitely. Yeah. So it is a difficult one though. I see that. There are people, especially the the the thought police kind of people that try and jump on things like this, they are under this illusion or lie that they don't have prejudices as
Starting point is 00:53:41 if as if they're somehow these like beacons of it is like everyone has prejudices that the data shows that like so fat people is a particular example that the data shows that people who look at photos of fat people on average will rate them as less intelligent and less charismatic or less likeable and the certain qualities that are lazy, that they say as well. Yeah, lazy, smelly, all those sorts of things. They associate it with lack of discipline, I think, don't they? And what that feeds into. And so, there would be similar ones with all kinds of minorities or groups of people. But to any characteristic. Yeah, any characteristic. Someone who's got curly hair, someone who's tall, someone who's short. Actually, you have to be able to discriminate to be able to navigate your way in the world.
Starting point is 00:54:25 So it's not as if you just eliminate all of that. People be like, oh, I'm blind to color, I'm blind to it. It's like, that's not... You're not very effective, aren't you? It's a very effective actor there, are you? Yeah, it's just not possible. Like, you know, this is...
Starting point is 00:54:41 It's the same about people who... I remember the reason I watched the fire documentary was my Instagram social media like lights up with everyone's got an opinion on why he was shit but like you don't know it's easy to just look at him look at a guy who's like tried to make something fantastic and it's gone down the shit and he really made a mess of it in lots of ways. But like at one point, it started off as a great idea and a brilliantly executed idea that might have been fantastic. And no one knows how they would have reacted in his situation when they were faced with this like fucking hell, like I've taken this too far.
Starting point is 00:55:16 It's very easy. But everyone's from the armchair. Yeah. Well, actually, most people couldn't even get anything to that point. And it's never seen another scene from the five festival documentaries coming my head, which is Jarruh sat on that Google hangout with everyone.
Starting point is 00:55:30 He's going like fucking hell guys like you know we don't need to worry yeah like like nobody died and you're like okay like yes you're right nobody died and what's the example that he uses? I remember watching that I think he like that it's could have been quite likely people could have died on that Yeah, it uses an example of like some company that came back from them Oh, yeah, from the brink and was like like look they came No, that was one of the examples that was used that was used by the other guy wasn't it But it's like you know like and it's at Samsung It's like our Samsung
Starting point is 00:56:03 You know they're following up phones and people's pockets like you know, like, oh, it's at Samsung. It's like, oh, Samsung, you know, they're following up phones and people's pockets. Like, you know, we're not killing anyone. You're like, right, yeah, maybe you're not fucking Samsung. I'd rather, they had quite a lot of reputation before and so on. But they didn't open up with a brand new phone that blue people's legs off. Have you seen as well?
Starting point is 00:56:20 You will have done, because you get on flight toll the time to weddings, don't you? Absolutely. Have you seen now that if you drop your phone in between the seats of a plane, you're not supposed to move your seat or try and get the phone yourself, you need to... BING! And wait for the... My attendants to come.
Starting point is 00:56:35 What's the cost to come? Why? Because they're concerned is if you have like a Samsung Galaxy Note 7 or whatever the fuck it is, and you move your seat back, crack it. Right. And the lithium battery goes that everyone's up in fossilized why you shouldn't be allowed on plane unless you've got a knife on And everything would be much simpler because the people who've made bad decisions will be confined to the where they live That is true. We're gonna get a lot of hate for that. Rory Rory So go into the same he's like, you know
Starting point is 00:57:03 After a while people don't care about clock speed or megapixels for the front facing camera. After a while, they just want something that looks nice. You're like, well, that's it, that's exactly why. So the fact that you have an iPhone and you have a MacBook is that is the explanation of why it's a better decision. You are a canary in the coal mine for...
Starting point is 00:57:24 You shop on features, you don't care about the fact. I don't know. This though, this is like a ffff. Quite an old eye for a first point. Like the Google Pixel or whatever, the Samsung is probably on a features per pound basis is much better. That's not my criteria though.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Your integration with existing platforms. Yeah, it's convenient integration and speed of access for stuff. Which is why Alfred is the closest thing to my heart that anything ever could be. What did you have? I've got it for the webinar. Where'd he? George got me a lovely Christmas present,
Starting point is 00:57:57 which is a cap that says make Alfred great again. Oh, fucking good. They don't even have an affiliate scheme. I Alfred, what are you doing? I would rather do. You don't know if I'm touching them I Alfred, what are you doing? I would rather do. If you don't know, if I'm touching them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You just don't know that if 95 to 98% of people who are listening won't know what Alfred is, and I think if this is for you, Alfred fell as good, isn't he? He's got a hat made about him. Sounds like a nice laugh. Yeah, he's a really good fellow. I'll tell you what, if Liam Neeson had that Alfred,
Starting point is 00:58:21 oh, he wouldn't have had these problems. He wouldn't have done it all. So why do you buy a MacBook rather than a PC? Because you didn't buy a case you thought Alfred exists? Yeah, I didn't, but I think anyone, use a PC for three minutes and it will answer that question. So many people, like, because it worries work, everyone has PCs. Is that mandatory? Is that mandatory?
Starting point is 00:58:45 Is that mandatory? Yeah, it's worth just what their systems run on. So we've both worked in companies where you're forced to use it. You use a PC. And the whole time, you just feel like, I mean, you just want to use a PC, they think Mac's like,
Starting point is 00:58:55 oh, I can't use it. There's no Mac computer, there's no control panel. What do I do? That onboarding process to learn to use a Mac is about 30 minutes, isn't it? Like, I think that's the such a weak excuse to say like, It is like using the only comparison that I can make between having a Mac book and having anything else.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Is actually no, I've never used Linux or... No, I use Linux, but it's... I see that as like, like, stabilizers off, like... Really good if you can make it work. Or just it's not a BC one. So it used to I think about 10 years ago, maybe 15 years ago, if you had a bit of developing knowledge, you could really use Linux to your advantage and it was at the forefront. Now, Mac has even overtaken that and there are a lot of developers moving
Starting point is 00:59:41 over to using Mac as a as a thing. And the problem with PC is that because it's incumbent, because large banks and lots of corporate use of Microsoft, even though it's terrible and even though there's so much problems with it, because the cost of switching everything over is so large. I don't know. I've never ever walked into Santander or like Lloyd's and looked behind me. Everyone's got really eye macros.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Yeah, just as nice. It's not, it's not happening. It's not something that'll be cost. Oh, you speak, speak, speak, speak. So, processing power. It's so ironic because like if they add up all, I mean, let's say if you had to add up all the time that you spend waiting for a computer at your old job,
Starting point is 01:00:23 like per day. Well, not even that, the amount of times I had to repair my computer. Okay, so the number of work hours that the total labor that's lost, multiply by all the employees of the company, it's got to go into the... By everyone, I'm not a Macbook pro, I really am. It's just, it's like using a different machine. It's a different category of everything. See, if you've ever played in a phone shop with a different phone, there's an iPhone,
Starting point is 01:00:56 not a long time. I just feel like, I don't know, obviously I'm biased, but I feel like using it is more cumbersome in every way. I would honestly love if anyone's watching this on YouTube I would honestly love if anyone's watching this on YouTube and you have a sincere objection to or some reason that we're overlooking is like why should we use a Google Pixel? Why should we use a Samsung Galaxy Note 7 or a LG? I'm all ears like I'd be keen to switch if there's some convinced. I think most of the people that have said to me you should switch it. It's on it's on either on price or because they don't like Apple. So my reason is not buying a Samsung is not because I don't like Samsung. It's because I like Apple and what Apple make and everything just
Starting point is 01:01:35 I actually want to like Samsung. I want to like a PC. You're just a contrarian. What if it's better? If it's much better than than great. Yeah. It's me. You're right.
Starting point is 01:01:44 But if you had them by by Samsung laptop to get the same connectivity, you would have a worse experience than what you have. No. The downstream effects of changing that device, uh, AirPod store work. Oh, I don't really have got a slot in. I, I, I, I padwant sync up, like, laptops, like, even things like, if we were went to a cafe and I had the laptop, the password for the wifi and YouTube didn't press a button and you both got the password. You know, so that's the thing about that.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Someone sat and thought, what's someone's life like with a MacBook and then let's make it a little bit easier. Yeah. And that's what they do. Apple found it. So it's changed David's life. He was staunchly one of these like, I am Apple. I'm not paying 300 quid for a laptop, but it was secondhand refurbished apple. I was like, that's
Starting point is 01:02:29 honestly the deal. He was like, no, no. And I was like, look, just bite the bullet, do it. I had to bully him into buying one. He eventually did. And now after a couple of weeks of his ego, he's been like, you know what, you know what, you've got Alfred. No, I have to take him to that. He's a big technophobe, yeah. But he's been like, you know what, you know what, you see, you got Alfred? No, I have to take him step by step. He's a big technophobic, but he's like, why did I do this earlier? This is such, this made my mind. He's got an iPhone. He used to have a Chromebook, I think you saw it.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah, it was holding apart. It was held by two little threads and all the plastic was peeled off and he had to hold it like that and hold the plug in the socket as well. Otherwise, it would flicker off and we'd only work if you held it at a certain angle. I was like, David, you've really run that into the ground. Do not feel guilty about treating yourself to a new device at this stage. Unbelievable. But yeah, Liam Neeson. New AirPods. New AirPods coming out in March. How did you know that? do you know that? We said I googled this yesterday. Yeah Do you know what it was? You're oh god. Is it not true? No, no I relied. I saw a
Starting point is 01:03:32 I saw some related video for something and it said best knockoff airports $50 Right And it was a guy reviewing these knockoff airports and then the thing after that I said airports too So I looked up airports too Uh-huh And yeah, they seem they do like a matte black version, it's going to come out next month with some other features, it just doesn't excite me at all, my bean pods are lovely. I think the features are wireless charging and haysy are you being.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I can't believe that's not part of the... You just double tap it? Yeah you double tap it, okay. I can't believe that's not part of the... You just double tap it. Yeah, you double tap, tap, tap. Okay. I've got H3B on MacBook now. Did you know what before? No, it's not hard to remove it. It's a special setup you have to do to enable H3Bing.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Oh, what? It just picks it up up. Yeah. We'll go over that in Lifehacks 1027. Wow, really? Yeah, I'll go through that. It's so exciting. Can we do Lifehacks now? Yeah, I'll go through all of this. Oh, I'm so excited. Can we do live hacks now?
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah, live hacks now. Yeah, cool. I'm just having a look here. So it's saying that the potential release date will be within the next couple of months. Latest news. I pods to, if this is true, it's so shit. I pods to will reportedly sport a grippier new coating to make the plastic less prone to slipping out of your hands and ears. Another feature improved base, although the design is expected to remain the same. Another
Starting point is 01:04:50 thing which could be quite cool would be that you could have biometric sensors in them. So you'd be able to have a fitness tracking. Fitness tracking from your ears. So there would only work when you've got it. For the people who are listening use of making a rude gesture with his crotch. Was your stretching my arm? Yeah, just sparrows forward. Ranging up steps. Yeah, we're going to do a life hack episode. So, hold on, no, no, about that.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Apparently, if you have an Apple Watch and these new AirPods, the Apple Watch can measure your heart rate, but the air pods can measure to action. No, like volume, like pulse volume or something. What do you mean the volume? I don't know. I don't know. No, no, to do with like the, I don't know, help me out, man. Help me out, Lord.
Starting point is 01:05:35 This is your place. So this, because I know the Apple Watch has an ECG apparently. Yeah. So something to do with, because it can feel your blood flowing. Like blood pressure picks up something else. I don't know. It was in a tech crunchy article. I read the bottom line is that you need to buy a pair of air pods. And that change your life. He doesn't in the modern was a group haven't just him.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I did George and Jordan both get them. Yep. Off the back of life hacks one-on-one. I just don't think I would get anything out of it. The trouble is now is that it's got to the point where it's met and there wasn't. You to get them, they'd have to be so good. We've created an entire narrative. You've created them immediately, you know, these are quite good. One of the people's not like these don't stay in my ear properly, the sounds a bit rubbish, like you've got to charge them separately, and it looks like you're wearing a tampon in your ear. The whole thing, the whole pack is just doesn't do with me.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I think what you're not doing is justifying the first hawk. I can see why you'd think that. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Mmm. However, because also if we thought you some, that would I think make it worse. I would honestly be annoyed at you. If you, because I know my birthday's coming up and I know that you probably, you've probably like considered it and I will be very annoyed. And I want to just say,
Starting point is 01:06:53 and there's a, oh, guys, don't bother, don't give me anything. Like I'll be actively upset. You remember what we got in last year? This is not serious. Go ahead and have, don't eat ham. You just like to like Air pods and the Tories you audible ham Air pods are listening ham
Starting point is 01:07:11 But you've been trying it over ham I did it was it was all right So it was a palm the ham you said you really liked Palm a ham yeah so How do you slice a bit? They got the shoe holes at You got the top video package. And birthday card. Shoes on is incredible.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Like it works as a weapon as well. Yeah, something like that. Teen has one. The ham was okay. Mixed bag on the ham. It was a parma ham, but people have said to me after it was out, you shouldn't have treated it on it. So you have to like,
Starting point is 01:07:37 have a baguette or something. Yeah, well, I like that. It's like someone buying you like a rotisserie chicken and you just take a cold out of the packet. I see, and I was just like, oh, you're right, Bill. It's okay. I see. Because we were late to go to Coop, because we had to go back to Amy Salma, so you could
Starting point is 01:07:50 put the palm ham in the fridge. And this time, I think you can have to go back to Charger AirPods. Excellent. Charger, you're fine. Excellent. Before we go, what have we got coming up? What episodes are we going to do? Coming up, Sora.
Starting point is 01:08:03 We're going to do, or this may come out after Lifehacks 107. So either in the past or the future of podcasting, we may have done or we'll be doing. Yes. Lifehacks 107. Yep. What it's really like running a business,
Starting point is 01:08:17 how to survive after university, after we had that one requested. The trouble with that is we've got to go up to death, haven't we? We're going to run out of time. We're going to survive. It's everything after university. So bear attacks, nuclear holocaust, famine. Bear attacks. It's the first thing I thought of.
Starting point is 01:08:36 I mean, the trouble is, I don't know why you can't attack by there if you're at university. So bear, they're a bear freeze on. Because what's the end of the the triggers to particularly open the gates And you just massive fields and it goes on for miles and there's bears and battles and If you're not asteroid if you've not seen it like when you open the gates from university It's just a bunch of like Sol and bears, you know that kind of just kicking the heels on the floor Smoking where the jacket with one foot against the wall. Oh, I'm leaning back.
Starting point is 01:09:07 I just can't believe I've passed that room. Bear is terrifying. They're unfast. Oh, yeah. But like proper clumpy, rough. Faster than you or I could run. Shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:17 I think the trouble with seeing a bear, or a bear that has decided I'm attacking him, is there's nothing to attack? So I've seen the survival guys, but they say you need to like put your hand over your head and go. Make yourself as big as scary as possible. But like I would still not back myself to try that thing. Like I really hope whoever wrote this isn't just having a laugh because otherwise like you're dead. You're so dead. So dead. Um, I'm hard. Dead to be better with the top. Told you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's the top. Dead to the top. Total trooper.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Yeah. Oh, I don't know. One a bit of a buzz. Yeah, he's on a back, he's on a back, he buzzed. We're in a sleeveless leather jacket. Like torn off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a bestest.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Yeah, just say bear on each of them. Piss and hagg. That was one of the hoodie rodders, wasn't it? Like a bear with a, a bear with an axe or a shark with a shotgun. That's like a bear with an axe or a shark with a shotgun? That's like art. Your children with a bear with an axe. A bear doesn't have a poseable thumbs and a shark doesn't have hands.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And it's underwater? A shark couldn't probably see it. Where's the shark then? Is it just mounted, a heater? Oh, it's a shark. I said the shark has to go like, harness. And then it shoots.
Starting point is 01:10:21 A shark has a neck, either. So it just fades away. It just does that with a tail. Well, you could argue that a shark, because I have a neck either. So it's just fake, it just does that with the tail. Well, you could argue that a shark is all neck. It's just a shark. It's just a shark to a neck. It's a shark, it's a possible terrifying thing. I honestly can't think of anything worse than a big python for me.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Big squid for me. Really? The giant is a shark. Is it a big tube of muscle? This one's 30 miles an hour long. 10 foot long. You could punch it as hard as you could, and it wouldn't. You just have to buck and bronch it, grab it,
Starting point is 01:10:51 and just hold on. I tell you what, you should follow on Twitter, which is definitely worthwhile, is extinctant animals and rare animals. If you search that, they're both quite big Twitter accounts. And they just put up all of this mad mega-fornish shit from five million, 50 million years ago. It's like, here is a extinct giant chipmunk
Starting point is 01:11:16 that grew to be eight feet high and had like Jesus. Like those things that had six eyes, things that had like horns coming out of their head. I don't know how to their head. Not around now. Well, because there was a number of large extinctions and then mammals one. Where part of that? I want to see Brian Cox. Shit.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I can't fucking believe that you want to go see him. Absolutely. Absolutely. Blow your dick off. Just space time. Just having someone explaining using a graph and maths space time, just being having someone explaining it, using a graph and maths space time. You know, he was saying on Joe Rogan that they've basically for this show, they're
Starting point is 01:11:55 just filling the entire back of stadiums with LED screens. And they have, I think it's like a hundred and something square meters of LED paneling. And then per show, they just fit it. So like Metro Radio Arena might be like 60, but then they're playing like Wembley and it's like 90, and then they're playing somewhere in America and it's like, oh, we can only get 50, but they just go in and apparently the engineers are just like climbing. Very cinematics. So as you're speaking, he's like, so they, they've got the interstellar, the way they create a black hole, interstellar is with an algorithm
Starting point is 01:12:30 that morphs the backdrop. They had a star backdrop, so black skies and stars run this algorithm, it creates a black hole using what we understand at the science. So it's a simulation, not a rendering? Yeah, because then it's an actual simulation. So they plug in the universal constants to this. So it creates this. So it is accurate what you see. It's exactly how it appears. Goodness me. It's, and you just think everything's
Starting point is 01:12:58 going to be absorbed ultimately in black holes. I love how we sat down for this being like, I don't know if we'll have enough to talk about. Yeah, we still got shitloads to talk about. We got tacked by a bear space time in Fire Festival. And you probably really come to the end of this and you're like, how do you title it? Yeah, I don't know. If you've got any ideas for what we should call this series, we're going to call it catching
Starting point is 01:13:17 up. I'll just like to say this example. It's just by a pair of fucking AirPods. That's what it should be called. We're going to go right out to progressively bullied into it. If we have everyone's sensors acquitted. We'll buy you some AirPods. That's what it should be called. We're good to go. I get progressively bullied into it. If everyone sends us a quiz, we'll buy you some AirPods. Easily. Easily.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I'll have to... But then that'll go as an admin hassle for me. So I have to go and find everyone who's donated a quiz, return it to them, and just sell a pair of AirPods, and then... So you're going to pay for the AirPods using one pound donations. Well, if that's the one, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:13:44 If you're crowdsourcing it, and then you get the AirPods, I have to then return the AirPods using one pound donations. Well, if that's the one, if you're crowdsourcing it and then you get the AirPods, after then return the AirPods and find everyone's purse. I see you're back to them. Anyway, what else we got coming up? So I got the house back. Oh yeah, I sent you that screenshot of that girl who is teaching your threes to do power poses. They call it a superhero pose.
Starting point is 01:14:02 So we did an episode on confidence. It's when you were away, you were at wedding. I think I did the confidence one. You did confidence. You didn't do... Oh, maybe you did. I can't remember. Anyway, always how I get late. And in that, I cited a erroneous study about power poses poses and now it's been trickled down to some year three. You're affecting kids' lives, Chris. I genuinely am. I'm really sorry, but is there a issue apologizing? There is a primary school teacher that's making kids do that and they call it the superhero pose. And I said, that's really cool. Would you be able to send me a photo? She said, yes, but now she's had to check with each of the parents individually. She's caused her an admit.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Fucking huge amount of downstream. I'm like a message to the other day. I'm like, yeah, you don't need to do it. I don't really mind. No, no, no, no, no, to be honest, they'll probably get a placebo benefit from it. Yeah, that gives me a thing to doing something. It's the most reliable effect in all pharmacology, isn't it? It's like when you ask your Pakistani grandma or asks you like, do you like some food and you're like, oh, they have a nice arrangement. No, don't worry. I will.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Oh, fuck, she's gone. She's away. No, I don't worry about it. It's fine. I will make, I will do it. And she's like cooking up biryani and like a chicken. No, no, no, no. Don would just cook it up very ony and like a chicken. Don't worry about it. You know how if you take a drug, there's an effect of the drug, like an intended effect, and then usually a side effect that we may either understand
Starting point is 01:15:41 or not understand. Yeah. Is that the case with the placebo effect? Can you get side effects from placebo? Like is it if it's placebo anything that can be measured? And if so, is there a side effect? Oh, I see. Yeah, so you can influence neurotransmitters and the crazy thing about placebo is like you can actually produce almost any sign. You can produce skin signs. If you give someone what they think is an allergen, they might start getting a rash or
Starting point is 01:16:13 unbelievable. And there would be no side effect of that because it's just your body reacting. I suppose you could get the side effects that someone expects to get. So the amazing thing is, the expectation and the power of the mind on all of the human systems is so weird because it annoyingly, it's like you have so much control over your body, but you don't have that control. It's like something else. It's just buying, isn't it? It's like, which is why the preamble to so much of this stuff is so important. Like if you sell someone and this again is obviously why...
Starting point is 01:16:47 Even if you know, so if you write on a thing like memory pills and you know that it's sugar and you're taking it, even the other one that put the sugar pills in the thing, it still has an effect. So placebo doesn't get negated by knowing that it's placebo. So then it must be down. It's a little bit easier. So if I, so back when I was 17 and took tribulus, are you saying that because I thought this is working, this is going to be the, that there might have been some change?
Starting point is 01:17:17 Or is it not, are we not taking hormone level? No, really. Well, like, could do. So actually knowing that it doesn't work is the worst thing that can happen to you. Ignorance is bliss. I suppose also like taking a trivial lesson at 17, like you probably have all of the signs
Starting point is 01:17:33 of high testosterone anyway, so. You did, didn't you? Jacked. I don't know what you mean, just swole. Jacked, 17. I mean, I feel like I had quite a high testosterone when I was having a legiagicton nuts and jacked. Yeah. So another thing, did you see that the Howl Survival
Starting point is 01:17:49 University, I sent you this screenshot, got shared around a bunch of schools in Papua New Guinea. It's the internet, man. So there was a guy that contacted me and said that I don't know whether it's X-pats with kids out there or whether it's Pap and New Giniens that are coming over to University in the UK, but basically said like we've got a lot of students that are 16-17 are going to go to university over the next year. I've made them all watch how it survived university because I think it's all of the stuff that they need to know. Should I that makes me think like what did I say? I walked it out.
Starting point is 01:18:27 What did I realize? The level of responsibility is so much higher when you realize that people actually listen. It's annoying when it's only post-hoc and you're like, Oh, it was a bit f**k. It was quite a good episode. We should just get like a big like big warning screen at the beginning. Like the following is just a period. Not medical advice.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Please heed like legal medical. You are this but the following is just an opinion. Not medical advice, please, heed like legal medical. You check it is a doctor. You are this, but the following is not medical. So I'm gonna have to start qualifying. I am not your doctor. Because you can't say not a doctor, because you are. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:18:58 What was that Tony Robbins? I am not your mentor, I am not your guru. I am not your doctor. Yeah. Let's get your Netflix. I'd love your doctor. Yeah. Let's get your Netflix. I'd love to see you under. Oh, I'll tell you what, another awesome statistic for you that Daniel Sloth gave me. Sloth gave me and video guiding was that to record Jigsaw and Dark for Netflix, single show hour and a half is your show of recording grand each per episode 40,000 pounds to record an hour like 90 minutes so that's nowhere near as much as I thought it would be what to record 90 minutes of stuff 40 grand and to get it on Netflix
Starting point is 01:19:38 no just to record it like the cost of the cameras paying all the actors in there is. It's a, it's a comedy special standup show of him on his own. I thought you meant dark, the, like the German TV show. Oh, no. So it's a, it's a, without what you were thinking. No, no. So it's a comedy comedian standup on stage, 90 minutes, just him, recorded to the spec that Netflix require it to be done at. And then he did it. And what he did was he'd funded it out of his own pocket. Did Netflix pay ahead of time? No.
Starting point is 01:20:11 So he was doing this and it hadn't even been picked up by Netflix. So but his agent was like, look, like, fuck, you're doing this to her, you're doing your routine and he doesn't do your routine every year. So like, look, you need to. So you make it to the spec of Netflix just in case they put in a bit. In case they want it. And that's what he did. That's how any done both of these things. And apparently like the last show of the tour.
Starting point is 01:20:28 And it was the one that he'd recorded for Jigsaw pretty much like that day or the next day, Garth's stage called from Netflix, we want it. And the way that they did it, they will once they accepted they want it, they'll front you the cash. It's not everyone's got 80 grand line around. And they said, got 120 grand for you here You know thank you very much cost me 80 pushed it back to them like took the money Give them the videos. Wow. So you so they would presumably people that are going broke by
Starting point is 01:20:58 Making a production running out of working capital essentially there must be actually yeah, so is there so working capital essentially. There must be actually, yeah. So is there, so it was probably not an instance, but is that, is there no, he gave them the balance back? No, no, I think it's probably what I think, but is there any other game from having a show on Netflix? What massive exposure, like is that it? It's called an O'Brien and so I don't know whether he actually gets paid for it. I'm gonna get to the left to buy it, they'll have to buy the thing. I've wanted it to, so Darren Brown is a good example of this. Had a bunch of channel-forward documentaries and has put them all in Netflix now.
Starting point is 01:21:32 And then he's done his most recent one, four Netflix. Yeah. So how is that much? Maybe it's not, maybe it's like it's the channel- It's a product of your own team that are then, because they own the rights to distribution.
Starting point is 01:21:41 They won't be Darren that owns the rights. They will be, so they're definitely won't. And then also Spotify, if you're a band on Spotify, do you get paid by listen minutes? Yeah, so you get paid for stream, but it's a, it's a pittance. It's tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny amounts. It just all feels very much like the,
Starting point is 01:21:59 because if it's not in it for the content producers, the quality content's just gonna apply over time. Well, that's all the... But I suppose that it just becomes the buyer's market for content. Like, if Netflix have them monopoly on content, it's what they're trying. Yeah, you can sell you, you stand up, show it to Hulu, stand up or whatever, no one's going to care. And so then people start putting in bids and broken themselves potentially by, because
Starting point is 01:22:23 there must be shows that don't make Netflix, but they've recorded it to the specification. And don't you think, I think based on what Daniel was saying, the way that he did it is very alien. Like most people fronting it and having such a big dick that they think, I haven't been asked to record this, but I'm so confident in my quality that I'm gonna do it.
Starting point is 01:22:43 And he done it. So he had no hedge. That's what he's doing in any way that was neat. Zero suck. He's recording, but not at the speck of Netflix. Right. So he's taking a small risk. He's taking a lot.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Like, I don't think he was recording them and put them out on YouTube, but it wouldn't. It would have been like five grand or something probably to have got it done. Like, who was really annoyed at Daniel Sloft for the Wyndy Nackin comments on Twitter? Do you remember where he was like, it's so arrogant to assume that out of all the people in the world, there's only one of them that's good enough for you. Wyndy are Nackin. Like, so there's a number a lot of people got across, a lot of people and
Starting point is 01:23:23 where the views are picking up, there's this weird thing that of people got across a lot of people and we're the views are picking up This is weird thing that YouTube does where it's like there's a little hump that you've got to get over And we did it with sargon and it's happened with Daniel as well now and it's like it just sort of Trickles along trickles along and then It just gets over this ridge and just fucking free wheels away So we've done like more than 50% of the views over the last couple of days, even though it's been up for nearly two weeks now. It's whether, because we have that with our videos,
Starting point is 01:23:50 like the videos that have a lot of views, keep getting views, videos that have no views, get no views. It's true. So it must be a, this is one for, maybe video Monday can do a cameo experience, but you just play the car. You can't hear him and you can't see him,
Starting point is 01:24:02 and he comes in front of the camera, nothing happens. Anyway, so to finish, could just be code. Yeah, it's the lines of Matrix code. What else have we got there to come up? We're gonna do... Lifehacks, maybe relationships. If we need to... One or four, we need to do the Instagram phone.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Instagram phone. Oh yeah. Like, I think we've got enough for a life fails as well, if you... So I've got... You've got nothing. I've got... It's just on the cast. I've got... Under Life Fails, as I had one, uh, so I've got, I think you've, you've got nothing. I've, I've got under life fails.
Starting point is 01:24:28 So I had one. It came to me in the same way I've been keeping, keeping a life hacks diary, and keeping a life fails diary. And a life fail came to me, noted it down, I was in the gym and I was like brilliant. I've got one because I didn't have any. Um, noted it down in the gym, went back to training. What did you know it down on? Did you have your eye, I've got shuffle. Just a note. Just a note. Yeah. I think, so you bring any phone to the gym went back to training. What did you know it down on? Did you have your eye-cut shuffle? Just a note.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Just a note. Yeah. So you bring any phones to the gym now? I need two for programming, which is slightly annoying. But it's pretty good. I'm still quite like disciplined with it. As they say, yeah, I could have done. But even while you're in a handsomest,
Starting point is 01:24:59 hey Siri, double tap, I can't do a single tap. I can't do a single tap. That's a selling point. So I'm standing here, Siri. You need enough to do that. And I've got life fails. And I've gone back and I've had a look. And I've just written the word anal. God. And I'm like, you're about to say if we've gotten, yeah. He know, I hate when that happens. Sometimes I'll, I'll like, I've been, oh, I've got an appointment on a calendar. So I go to the date and I just write 9 am, 21st April. And then you get to the time and you're
Starting point is 01:25:30 like, oh no. It's gonna be the best example of that is what you told me that you went to see yourself and you sat eating a bowl of spinach. And you're like, why are you eating spinach? Well, I don't know as in my calendar. Well, because I trust the research that past use of has done. But surely it's like when we go to a cup in your order, a whole chicken, and we go, why do you say, what's cause I need to eat more? Because you can't just,
Starting point is 01:25:53 if you just have spinach, the one time in a bowl. No, but if you just eat more when you're at a cup like it, that surely that needs to be. You should come and have it. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, so what would have been, probably a little bit more accurate, would have been had a reminder come up
Starting point is 01:26:04 as I arrived at your house saying, remember to eat, and you would have been probably a little bit more accurate would have been had a reminder come up as I arrived at your house saying, remember to eat? And you'd have been like, what? How much? Why when like at least the anal thing would have been like, it would have prompted me at least had to be able to remember what I was talking about. But I have no idea what it is. So it made come back to me. It may not.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Does anal not trigger anything because anal is not, it can't rate a that much. I don't think it was about anal. I think it must have, I must have written something. It's all the correct in it to anal. And then I've, so I don't know. Col. Cuttern and us, that's T9, isn't it? Remember the old, like, number of texting, right? Col, cock, and anal are all the same combination of miles of stuff like this. She's Christ. Right. Thank you very much for watching. Please do not forget to press subscribe, share the episodes, propnfitmas.com, we'll be
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