Modern Wisdom - #100 - Episode 100 Special Edition Q&A
Episode Date: September 5, 2019Jonny & Yusef join me for a special edition Q&A to celebrate 100 episodes of Modern Wisdom. Expect to learn... everything that the internet wanted to know. Plus enjoy an exclusive clip from the Pilot ...Episode of Modern Wisdom back in 2017. Thank you to everyone who tunes in, your continued support is hugely appreciated. Big love x Extra Stuff: Check out everything I recommend from books to products and help support the podcast at no extra cost to you by shopping through this link - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hi friends, welcome to episode 100. Can you believe it? A full century of episodes done?
I'm only just getting started. Today it is a special edition Q&A episode.
Myself, Johnny and Yusuf sitting down in my living room to do nearly two hours of
questions that we've received on the internet, avoiding some that we just
didn't fancy speaking
about and going down rabbit holes with a lot of others. Also, you get to hear the long-awaited
why did you, if once, have a lemon ball story from a pilot episode we recorded nearly two
years ago that never got aired. So, in the same way as DVD extras and Easter eggs and stuff
have little treats for you, episode 100's got a lemon testicle shaped treat as well.
Thank you so much for tuning in, I massively appreciate all of your support.
I've said it all along that I honestly would do this podcast even if no one tuned in.
The opportunity to speak to the people that I get to share time or bandwidth with is pretty
priceless.
But the fact that hundreds of thousands of you
continue to tune in every single month
makes it even more meaningful.
So yeah, thank you very much.
Enjoy the Lemon Ball story and roll on
the next 100 episodes.
Lots of love.
Lots of love!
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back!
It's episode 100! Woooow! Woooow!
Uh, we've done a hundred episodes in modern wisdom.
Eee!
Really well.
You shit the bed.
I don't feel like it.
I know.
It's because you've just suddenly gone twice a week.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
But anyway, thank you very much to everyone who's tuned in over the last 100 episodes.
Do you remember the day we did the first podcast with you and we had the
preamble of making the coffee and the coffee was too strong. That was for the propane, right?
Yeah. Yeah. That was our interview with you and then
Locked customers. Locked in my crisfit.
Chris fit. Chris fit it was. Yeah, exactly. 16 million, listen, minutes later and we're here.
Here we are. So we've got a couple of special treats for you today. We're going to do Q&A. We asked for questions from people
on the internet, Instagram have come up with some pretty good ones. Also, before
I started this podcast as the name that it was, we did... It comes the hot potato.
We did a pilot episode and originally it was called Mind and Matter.
A bit of a shite name, I know. Mind and Matter and we did a pilot episode on purpose and meaning.
As a part of that, Yusuf told us a story about when his testicle grew to the size of the lemon
because he got a hydrosale and then he tried to pop it in the shower
and then he had a number of other complications and I've been asked a lot because I keep referencing it.
I've been asked to put this story in. So you're going to get to hear it.
We've got the footage.
Right now.
But, beep!
Right now.
Fine.
I'm going to give you the full Monty.
This is...
This is a podcast about purpose and we're gonna spend the first five minutes talking about
my ball, my request.
Balls on demand.
Balls on demand, bod.
Right, so...
One day I was coming out the shower, my flatmate saw my ball and said,
you said, that's really big, you need to do something about it.
I said, no it's fine, it's always been like that.
Chris is using water out of his mouth.
What was the first, like the first time you're like drawing yourself off
and you look to the mirror and you're like, hmm. It's very gradual and because the male denial
of health issues runs so deep,
you end up just ignoring things you are a doctor.
I am now, I wasn't then, so I was even more averse.
And yeah, now it would be very different, I think,
I would go after like when it got
to half the size really before the full lemon. So your twice is your twiceest sensitive
to lemon ball no. Yeah exactly my threshold. Well I know you have a lemon ball you know
what it would look exactly. So the reason it's lemon ball is because it was the size of
a lemon and I'd throughout that process it was normal to begin with and it gradually got
bigger until there was this mismatch and you you end up justifying to yourself, like, oh, there's always been a slight difference
in size or whatever.
And then it has to take someone else to say, no, no, come on.
You said it's three times a week.
No, no, no.
So when to the GP, they have a feel and they tell you, oh, it appears to be quite enlarged
and you're like, yep, yeah, I know.
I'll just refer you to the radiologist,
radiologist, get some gel on it, calculates the volume for 20 minutes to tell you that it's
big. You're like, okay, I wonder why you needed to ultrason that. It's not normal, that
is. Oh, that's a bit big. So, so not in the room.
Very, yep. It's enlarged.
If anyone's ever had a ball ultrasound or if you have one coming up, something that they do is
the nurse will come in, tell you to drop your pants to your knees, leave, and then she'll come back and say,
oh, I've got this tissue to cover your penis for decency.
Because of course that's the important thing.
Five times we hear this story?
Four or five?
It's little gems, and he leans out.
That's what I might have to do.
Don't half-ass it.
If you're going to do it, do it properly.
I'm quite glad that you're happy to hear this again,
because I feel like most people get...
If you release that, it was just a story I'd buy.
So they cover your penis for decency of course because that's the thing
that's top on your mind. Do they like sausage roll it or how do they just drape? So then
you start there with just testicles exposed. I realise like I'm trying to do this as
like a public relations message to encourage men who have any kind of testicular problems
to go out and seek help but it's probably not really advertising it very well.
You essentially have a test.
It was the dress you'd dig up like Casper.
The tissue as well would have been penis and then ball, ball, run, yeah.
It was.
So it's like it just really highlights the fact that you have one one left.
Exactly.
So, ultrasound, past a few different people, eventually to the urologist, this is the guy who's gonna operate.
Big Nigerian man, starts examining me and then walks over to the light without explaining what he's doing, turns it off and comes back with a torch,
and shines a light through the ball, and it lights up like a Christmas light. He looks really happy and says, you see this? It means it's not the cancer.
You're like, oh great, okay, so he's really pleased about it. Later on found out that's
called a Transalumination to check for any kind of cancer. So that's good news if it lights up.
By this point it was getting pretty big.
Like the size of a, like a little steroidal lemon.
Like a mango.
Mango, it was small mango, yeah.
And it was, it gets to the point where everything else
like rests on it.
Starting to come right horizontally.
And like you couldn't hide it in work trousers. I did a competition in a
in a singleist and obviously setting up for bench whoever filmed me chose to
use the angle like straight up towards it and I had to cover it down the pipe. I
had to cover it up with a text box on the video.
And Johnny just said bench. I got a message from Johnny the next day saying like great video but why is the text box so big?
I said you too.
To the card emoji of a lemon.
Yeah, that would have been good.
Okay, matter.
Very much.
So at that point, been referred for surgery, watch the procedure on YouTube the night before
and started to get the fear so I
went into the shower and tried to burst it myself and this is where we turn the
lemon into a bean so it reshaped the lemon into more of a bean shape.
She forced.
Through force, yeah.
So did you, for that to happen, was it an initial, like a short shot? Like, no, it was it. So you slowly applied depression. Was it in that position?
It was your hands clasped and like interlocked to get more purchase on it.
It's just as well that you're not practised in jujitsu.
You'll be really good at it. So, had the surgery.
You, Johnny, are you trying to imagine it in different ways that you'd be able to squeeze
up? I'm thinking how I would do it. And then thinking about the amount of pressure. So, how the surgery, you, Johnny, you try to imagine it about different ways that you'd be able to squeeze up.
I'm thinking how I would do it,
and then thinking about the amount of pressure
that you've interlaced your fingers.
Well, because that, I think.
So, you've interlaced your fingers, you can't do that.
I mean, you could really bear down on it.
I'm gonna apply it, apply it a fair bit of pressure, though.
I mean, you yourself limited, obviously, like.
Because really, yeah.
How the surgery is normal, Paul.
I think slightly, yeah, it may be slightly more
because there's a lot more pressure around.
When you went in, did they say that's not the shape
it was last time, was it?
No, why is it being?
They didn't notice.
But when in for surgery, if you've ever been
for surgery as well, they draw a big like,
big L or a big R and an arrow,
pointing to the side that needs operated on. If
it's if they do surgery or anything that has two, so kidney, legs, whatever. Yeah. Which
does feel silly if you have like a really obvious deformity, but anyway, work up from the
surgery on oxycodone, very powerful opiate that makes you quite devious and talking nonsense to the nurses.
Coming to the consultant came up and said, okay, so you need to avoid sexual activity for
at least a few days, you're like, okay, great, because I was going to just go home and try it out.
But I think that that was sarcasm.
You definitely do not want to wake up
like in this kind of bloody juxtap
and it's very painful and bleeding.
So, but I guess they have to tell people that
because people try.
They, one of the consultants who installed a colostomy
bag on someone, which is like an anus on the front of your abdomen,
basically like a re-routing your intestine,
had to advise the patient postoperatively
not to have sex through the hole.
Oh my god.
And this is clearly because some patient in the past
will have tried and complicated things.
Like, I think complicated is a really under-directed the direct like if somebody tries to have sex with a small,
fleshy, amused type hole in you then your side I imagine created by Martin Scalpel
is that is it just a little incision? yeah they just take a bit of bowel and move
it up superficially to face someone's just reading around
terrible so that's the story
I'll give it this there's aftermath isn't it?
should we say if you have to have to have for part two?
yeah maybe because this is already going to's already... It can be being chronicled.
The chronicles of?
Puppet ball.
Puppet ball, yeah.
Puppet ball, Puppet ball.
All we've talked about is testicles suffer.
At the end of the day, the moral of the story is,
if you have a problem like this,
it's only gonna get worse until you seek medical help.
So seek medical help with purpose?
Purpose, don't try and pop it yourself.
See the GP, don't be a barista about it.
It's a typical male thing to not do that.
I was lucky.
It was a lemon ball, but it could be a nasty ball.
So, and if it is a nasty ball, that can be fatal.
So feel your ball, go and see the GP.
And we're back.
Oh.
Oh.
You know, there's a really awesome message to that story,
which is that men are often afraid to go to the doctor
for things out of maybe caught sociocultural reasons,
but that is proof that you shouldn't be
doing to don't just squeeze your own testicle.
Don't try and pop it, just go and see.
Just go and see a professional.
And they'll squeeze it for me.
They will squeeze it for you.
So I hope you enjoyed that story.
It was unbelievable.
The rest of that episode, by the way, was total shit.
But that 10 minute period was gone.
I thought it was great.
We prepared those notes.
It was only bad because of the audio quality and the tapping
and you get a clicky, immense pomo
when there's a piece of content that's created.
And it's
really prepared. It's hard for that though. It's like life fails that was just lost in the
ether. Oh, all the stuff in the head fail. Oh, stories you gave. Oh, I know. They gone, man,
for every thing. They already did. So, thank you. Massive, thank you to everyone who's
tuned in, 100 episodes. We are 60 million listen minutes, several thousand subscribers,
all that sort of stuff. And we've got some cool questions, so we're going to do some questions.
Do you want to do one of yours first?
Yeah.
I mean, this is very, like, you know, my first question. But, you know, questions for dummies,
now I don't mean that. Do you have any favorite novels? Well, first, first part of the question as well. Are we doing that?
Kind of, Chris M Hunt, why am I just going to take the piss out of this question?
It's a great question, Chris. Do you have any favourite novels?
And then also, do you see any value in reading for pleasure?
Both of these things have been discussed with Chris Sparks,
spoken about this the day, Productivity Coach,
because this is episode 100, and I'm starting to back up,
that's almost definitely going to be coming after this.
So either in the past or the future,
listen now for me talking about that.
Well, everything's either in the past or the future.
Part of now, which is right now and now.
But not that, but now.
Now.
So 1984, George Orwell, like really good, easy read.
A lot of implications that you can,
if you're a bit of a self-development,
sort of buff that you can take and apply to your own life.
The Alchemist, Paolo Quaylor, great novel, second part.
Do you see any value in reading for pleasure?
Absolutely, yeah. I think that I've learned,
and 1984 taught me a lot more and a lot of those conclusions have had bigger
impacts on my life than reading a lot of self-help and productivity books.
As Chris Sparks said it, 90% of self-help and productivity books are a 20-page blog post with 190 pages of example.
So there's often say one idea in the world, like one meaningful concept and then the rest of it's
just fluff, which is why like book summary services for those kind of books can be really good.
But then you don't have the time and attention, you don't have any context.
Well then the one thing thing how the whole thus meeting
Because it's like if I said to you just just concentrate when you're working
That's deep work is basically the whole thing. It's when you work. It's true. What about you novels? I know that you're not massive
I don't so I'm starting to do it more. I don't do it very much. I used to read quite a bit for pleasure when I was younger
I read like the Harry Potter books. I read like the Philip Pullman stuff.
They were good. Yeah, being on my Amazon, his dark materials. Really?
Sorry Netflix, bringing out the full thing. I'm looking forward to that, definitely.
Amazing, man. Yeah, because they absolutely butchered Northern Lights.
There was an old film of Northern Lights and it was, yeah, horrendous.
What are you man? Northern Lights and it was yeah horrendous. So Albert Kamu, the stranger, written by someone
whose mum was deaf and he was brought up in a, you know, kind of like really weird like
silent environment and you can you can feel that in his writing.
1984, very good, brave new world and what was the other one? I forgot the other one.
Deep work, why can't you? Deep work, why can't you? I think I watch films more than what's
okay. Needful things by Stephen King. Why did you? Why did I say films? So sorry to interrupt.
No, it's okay. Just because. It was one of the best books that I've read,
but the film is one of the worst films that I've seen. And so I think they just, because there was
a lot of subtext in the book and then they managed to just wreck it. Yeah, what a shame.
I like the club. Great book, great film. Apparently the big short book, I've just heard this.
Right, it's fantastic. Really? That's the sort of thing that I love something. Yeah, great fun.
Great fun.
We get in good.
We go at the cinema.
So people read for pleasure often to like, you know, moving to another world.
I go at the cinema for two hours.
Transported.
Kind of.
Karl Kiefer, you have to sit more.
I spoke to someone the other day who went on a, I was mic'ded a 4D cinema experience.
I got a few of those in my mind.
They spray with water and they're like a sea vibrates and awful.
I don't like that. I just like to be left alone to just enjoy it with the
vibraphry parcels.
Said he was soaked by the end of it.
Yeah, we'll see.
Smelly water as well.
I'll see that you can go as a team.
Dan's out washing.
Dan's out.
Dan's out.
Good guy.
Right.
Sean J.
What is a life hack?
You couldn't go without since introducing it.
So you need to pick one that you've heard or you've brought up on a life hacks
and you haven't sort of stopped since you've heard.
And that one.
I don't know what you're going to say.
What are you going to say?
Minus flip between physical and digital. What's he going to say? What do you think he'll say?
Alfred. Oh God. Oh, you're not going to say Alfred. But that actually tops it. If I had to pick
what I was going to say and Alfred, I'll have to pick out. So if I just outlipacked your own life,
what was your original one? Shot down for. Oh, the bum spray. Yeah, I try not to put,
but I'm not at home now because it's just you hold it in. Well, the bum's broke. Oh, the bum's broke. Yeah, I try not to poo, well, I'm not at home now, because it's just, you hold it in.
Well, you shouldn't, but it makes the experience
so much better.
Which I mean, you shouldn't.
You shouldn't hold in poo longer than you should,
longer than you have to.
But no one ever holds in poo longer than they have to.
I think they do, because otherwise,
you would just poo in the room.
It's not longer than they have to.
Longer than they would like to but yeah
If you really like feeling full
I bet there are people that like if you're really hungry and you like to see like well like a pool
Who is what about you, man? What you think you don't know what about a couple any come to mind?
I tell you what's interesting, Sean. Great question.
One of the things that we find is that the little cycles that we go through is like a
natural evolution of life hacks, and over time some will remain and many will be discarded.
So a lot of them, I almost need to go back and caveat like 101 and 102 and 103.
I no longer do runward.
It's not good for my spine, given my current spine health.
I did a Woot Band review that now I'm not doing that and now I'm considering getting the
three.
Like so I've been in, gone out and then come back again.
You get the flip side as well where the sun that is so standard in your life now that
you forget that they're even in the car.
What am I car?
So true. so standard in your life now that you forget that there are even a lot of car, so true to control. Probably the life hack then, like the master hack is to just be constantly
iterating an experiment. Because like all of us, the reason for life hacks is like we're
all trying something new every time we speak. Every time we take my life, you're like how
can you change something? Yeah. So air pods are probably there up there.
Fairly ubiquitous in my life.
Yeah.
Like things like Wi-Fi scales and, you know,
like stuff we've mentioned that I don't,
it's just part of my day.
That's the thing.
It's when the ones that, what is a life hack
you couldn't go without since introducing it.
It's the ones that integrate the most seamlessly
with your life.
That's why you're like Alfred. That's why we mean you like Airpods.
For me, the best one, the one that has given me the highest return, single highest return from one life hack,
sleeping with my phone outside of my room. If you put your phone outside of your room before you go to bed or if you have a bedroom ban on your phone. It is the downstream from that. It's the same as getting a dog, happiness,
walks, trash out, like downstream, all the implications are great. So yeah, phone outside of the room.
Johnny still doesn't do that. I mean, need to get in a lot of work. So this is just based on
recently the Byron Katie book, the Byronady process, I think that was a life hack. Really?
Yeah.
Just like lately been using it for, I think if you're able, I'm not so convinced now that
it's like having this deep sort of like rewiring effect, but it just allows you to take
something that, like when you wake up in the morning, you're like really pissed off about
it, and you just reframe it, see it differently, and use it to your advantage.
The process which works for you. Exactly. And I think if you can take a bad thing, you're like, well it, you just reframe it, see it differently, and use it to your advantage. The process which works for you.
Exactly.
And if you can take a bad thing, you're like, well, I'm just going to do this about it,
then it's a great thing to have.
It's also great, because it eliminates boredom forever.
If you're starting to really, you're going for 10 hours, you can be like, buying and
courting.
Yeah.
The end of the 10 hours, you just feel amazing.
Yeah.
Casper, it's my, it's our go at Christmas.
Excuse me. Excuse me. Sorry. Unbelievable. Yeah. Casper. It's my, it's our gochis. Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Sorry.
Unbelievable.
Sorry.
Emma Haymes PT, who I think wanted to date with you, actually.
I've probably shouldn't have said that.
That's your answer, Chris.
Well, time to have another video.
Would you rather have to tell everyone around you that you need to fart or pee your pants and then she submitted any second question
ellipsis every day
So, so would you rather have to tell everyone around you that you need to fart so every time you fart you're like every part or
Every time you pee you pee your pants
It's a fucking ugly thought one like or else you're just pissing your pants all the time.
It's to it's that there's no way there's a big asymmetry.
It's cut dry there, isn't it?
Yeah, I suppose it depends on if you need to fart.
It's like every time you even get the hint of a feeling,
you have to fart.
I don't have the hint of a fart much.
Like mine are...
They just fall out.
I don't know if false alarms are at all.
You must have situations in the eye for what you think I shouldn't fart here.
Well, the only time I think I shouldn't fart is when I think I might shard.
But you must be in the social setting.
Well, you like I shouldn't fart here. You fart me fart.
I know. Lots.
You know what, you've been in long car journeys with you and you've been very,
instead of very good.
That's because of the seating position.
So it's not, it's the unkind threat.
It's not, it's not out of courtesy. No, not okay.
Casper Sorensen, how much to Johnny and Yusuf really bench? I love that he's got
Soren in his name. It's kind of the sum of the letters. So what
do you what's your all time PB not? 162.5. Was it in a comp?
No, he said not to comp. Yeah, was it in a comp? No, no. So just in the gym. Yeah, peaking. Yeah.
This was before this was in the buildup, but prior to me going right and some part of the thing.
You got 172 in Gold Star. It was very no, it wasn't in Gold Star. It was in David Lloyd
and we cannot have called it a bench press. Okay. So like dodgy plates, like bench height is questionable and
it was like crashing on my sternum. So because it wasn't I feel legal, Johnny is not counting
it, but I would say purity, man. You've got a lot of these still of the spot. I think
you have, it's like, well, I mean, there's infinite examples. If you see my side versus
the world. Yes. Thoughts?
Love just Louis Simmons, my poor guy.
You know, Louis Simmons has never done a podcast.
Yeah.
And I'm trying to.
He's not on Rogan.
I think he's on Rogan.
Yeah.
But I think he's pretty hard to get a hold of.
Yeah.
I'm trying to get Brian Carles.
At the start of the West I versus the world,
it says like, this was not Louis' idea.
And then they just kept, I've seen him,
you know, the barbell shrugged guys. I've seen him, you know, the barbell
shrug guys. I've seen him take the barbell shrug guys I'm struggling with my clean. And
Louis is just like bands. So it gets the barbell shrug guys to do a banded power clean.
And like obviously you do the pull and it just crashes out. It's like move faster. And
he just gets the guy to banded power cleans then he brings it clean. Lately, Simmons is a boy.
Seth, best bench press.
150.
That was in pinnacle.
Yeah.
Was it?
Yeah.
Well, we went in and reared everyone's day.
Because there was a leader board and we just, yeah,
just turned off the talk.
Took everything in all genders and all weight categories.
Yeah.
I don't find us everything when we're in the...
How much do you bench?
Someone asks us that recently.
Who asked us that?
Do you remember that?
Yeah, someone else.
My old time PB's 140, but I don't train bench.
That'll be close grip. Close grip.
Close grip. Flat back.
Feet on the bench. All of those things.
No, no, no.
For eight reps, just fine.
Because he never went below eight.
You got him?
Um, God, this, but Jetta Moon has, has hammered the questions.
I've got a lot of them.
I hear Jetta Moon.
What's something you think every person should experience in their lifetime?
Err, err, err.
Err, be on a podcast.
Be on a podcast. I think that that's a really good answer. I think that at some point in your life, especially
now, a lot of distraction, a lot of time spent double-screening, triple-screening, watching
TV being distracted, not having deep conversations. It is like doing these podcasts and having
these discussions with whoever it is now even people
I got not that much like Brian Carroll is a 300 and something pound power lifter from Florida
And the only thing I have in common is we've both been seen by the same back specialist and
And now and a half talking to him just flew by and I loved it and he I'm gonna go see and I'm gonna go chill with him and you like
The opportunity I believe you're going to go and chill with him and you're like the opportunity. I believe you're going to go and chill with Brian Carles. I've got to take
tape on him a couple of weeks. He will be an interesting guy. I've got a way to get questions
from Andrew Doyle. sat down with Andrew Doyle this Sunday, went out for him in Edinburgh last
night after he's show at the French had drinks and then. Like Yonapodcast. He's on the podcast
indeed. So be on the podcast indeed. Yeah.
So, so be on a podcast.
Be on a podcast.
Just have the opportunity or, if not, sit down with someone for one hour, both phones
outside of the room and have a discussion about something that you think will interest
you.
So like fake a podcast, I just think having deep conversations with people, you both leave
everyone that's a part of them leaves the room better than when
you want it. That's my. You can do a podcast about whatever you're interested in and just
put it on iTunes. There's the costs, minimums, isn't it? Is it really well-known?
You can't even tell the fucking prick.
Tell that story. We'll have to tell that story.
It will at some point. Not on this one.
We'll do it when I know.
But yeah, right.
Don't ever say to yourself that you can't do a podcast,
because cost is the reason especially when you are part of a radio station.
And the content is made and it's been edited and mastered.
And you're just thinking of a way to repurpose it.
Right.
What's something that everyone should experience?
A Widowmaker experience.
So that doesn't have to be a Widowmaker, which is...
So, seriously, this is exactly what I was going to say.
The Squats... Squat Widowmaker.
Well, so it's one option.
It's exactly what I was going to say, really.
Unbelievable.
So, I've got my... Sorry, man.
So, a Widowmaker is a set of squats with your 10 rep marks and you do 20.
And obviously by definition you think, well that's not possible but it is possible, it just
takes 10 minutes to do.
So you have the bar on your back, you do 10, you're done, you keep the bar on your back,
you take 5 to 10 deep breaths, you go again, 5 to 10 deep breaths, you go again until you
hit 20, you start to go death, you have ringing in your ears,
Facebook, yeah, like everything just shuts out in like all your cares drop away,
and the whole being is just like, I hate this. Other ways to experience it, 10 minute ice bath,
high dose psychedelics, if that's what you're into. 2K Max Row. 2K Max Row.
A 10-day meditation retreat, like anything that...
There are quite different versions of that.
I think the Widow Make is very...
It's the shortest way to calm.
You can't visceral get away from it.
2K Max Row.
Max F2K Row.
Definitely.
The guys at...
Jim Jones, the guys who trained all the 300 actors, they call
the 2K row, like the test. A horrible distance.
Because it's way round up. Seven people.
Well, do we know the story about the selfie?
You're one. Yeah, we did. It was that first 2K row.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Johnny, what's yours? I mean, that was going to be it.
So I think the thing that a lot of people don't experience,
I think everyone should is experiencing a high end
or the end of your physical capability.
I experienced the line where your mind is like shouting,
eat a stop.
I think as well, what you've identified with the Widowmaker
is that because the way the programming's done,
like we've always said this about powerlifting. If you can't lift the weight, you can't lift the weight, it doesn't
go up, there's no struggle. Whereas if you've ever watched one of those videos where boxes
run out of gas and then they kind of collapse to the floor, it's like, how much do you
have to be to not be able to throw another punch? Yeah. It's the weight of your arm, not
even going against gravity. Just extending your arm out, yeah, exactly. So it's the weight of your arm not even going against gravity Death like 1000 cuts is just extending your arm out. Yeah, exactly. So it's the thing. I've always admired like I always admired
I've always admired Lee athletes have always admired like special forces and it's not physical prowess
It's like being able to be able to the ability to just tolerate as a Goggins that was
Like a runner. It's David Goggins. Yeah, so it's Davidgins. The one who broke his feet and was still going to get hurt.
Yeah, yeah.
Just like frightening people, terrifying people, who are able to do that?
Oh, wow, this is a fucking belltor of a question.
Paul Ogren, if you were to give your student self,
we'll call this first student, like, fresher, 18.
If you were to give your student self a life hack, what would it be?
Fuck when I think about how different my life set up is now to when I was 18
jeez
Because when I was 18 phones weren't a problem. So wouldn't need to know about that stuff
Thing is no
Pomodoro's would be good for know, I know, know, I I just love that. Of all the things. It's like I just should have done more days where I just did five by five.
You're not wrong. Like you, you're off like three one.
Yeah. So five, I think like sitting down and explaining to my 18 year old self, just like nutrition and drinking.
We did so many stupid diet.
Well, so I suppose that alone would have saved me
Out hundreds of hours probably of my degree and pounds of wasted money
I don't like surge work out for the Anaconda protocol
Indigo 3G
There's a little plenty of people. Everyone's only to go through you
Is it game changer? What about you, Seth? One thing to heaven out and then you wouldn't have lost your journal of like a decade
Oh, yeah.
Well, so I wrote a journal for a daily journal for a decade, and then one day my Microsoft
word file corrupted.
And then what did you write?
Well, that's the end of my journaling, then.
I just thought, well, there's no point in continuing. I just, just, just, didn't even say it was like the most autistic,
like, yeah, identification of the day.
Yeah, it was like, went here, met this person, eight fish.
I think I'm stuck on that card.
So it wouldn't have been interesting,
well, it probably wouldn't have been.
When you scroll back over, you're like, oh yeah,
like, you know, the most, there's so many mundane days in your life that just takes you for it.
Just the minutiae.
Yeah.
What about you, Johnny?
Oh, sorry.
Would it be ever known?
Ever know was good.
Deep work, a deep work habit if the book existed.
Five, three, one.
Very similar.
It's like a rep scheme.
But I think for me, it would be just raising my standards because I, in my first degree, thought that I was like some big hot shot, like doing really well,
but looking back, like it was a degree that, like if you didn't get a first in it, you
would dig.
So, and then the second one made me realize that how much slack there was in the system
and actually what I could have done is done two degrees at the same time. I wanted a dependent one private one, one university
one or like learned another language, read loads of books, like started up in another business,
like something. So yeah, Johnny, I think either sort of incentivizing myself to like go down the path of seeking alternative education
earlier. So I think like I stumbled into like, is the trade at 18?
Well, yeah, I mean stuff like that. You know, the stuff that you start into the self-development
world and read books and listen to different people and get different views that are different from your friends and different from what your parents are taught
in different from school. I think the earlier you get that the better your life decisions
are. But I don't know, I don't think it's not a life hack necessarily, but I think like
just start learning from places that aren't you.
I got you. That would have been one of those.
You got one, Johnny?
You got one good one.
What personality trait has gotten you the most trouble?
Trouble? Hmm. Fssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss probably neurotic probably neuroticism or industries Scott, I just said left over her press neuroticism, snatch
neuroticism or
so this is caused the most problems for me
is somewhere between neuroticism and industriousness
just that I can't
I can't bear not to be working and doing things
like and it's getting
I'm controlling it better but the industriousness is getting worse
I'm able to now operate with less rest, like less downtime.
I'm able to do that previously.
It might be a five day week, but now I can probably get away with maybe a seven day week
before I need to take an afternoon.
And then, you know, over time, that will become like a 10 day week before I need to take
an afternoon.
So the problem with that is that back in the day,
my neuroticism caused me to shortcut success as the indicator for my success and just allowed
I was forced to use the suffering associated with the task as my indicator of I've done good.
So if I worked a club night and went home and was fucked, I would think yeah, you've worked hard.
went home and was fucked, I would think yeah you've worked hard, irrelevant, regardless of the success of the event, whereas I could go and have one where the event performed
really well, but it hadn't suffered. I was like, you're talking lazy bastards.
It's hard to be, to feel like you're moving in the right direction.
Even if it's not successful, and then if it's not so, so you need to succeed on two different
pathways,
and one of which is not associated with success at all.
So yeah, that's kind of the one that's got me in the most trouble.
It's also got me in most trouble with friends,
girlfriends, all that sort of stuff.
Why are you working again this evening?
Why are you doing this?
It means that you don't have to wear a person
who wants to work as much as we do.
And it's fortunate that we are around each other,
like fucking deans the same, Jordan, George,
you know, a lot of people that we sort of come across.
I wonder how much of the fact that we're friends
is just just desperately not feeling quite
as we are normal.
Yeah, well what about you, Seth?
That's a very good answer, similar.
For me, it's my overhead press,
like it's always been slow to progress.
And then mind to the stick, it's my overhead press. It's always been slow to progress. My
system's stuck where it's always been. Agreeableness as well. I mean, it's the origin of the problem
that I have. That's a potential problem.
To real. I think so. But neuroticism as well, I think yours has got to be a scurvy problem.
Well, yeah, which comes about from... agreeableness and is it agreeable?
Is it not save money, not rock the boat?
So that wasn't the...
So not rock the boat is agreeable.
That's the boat, yeah.
And then save money.
You're obviously.
I'm less bothered about saving money these days.
Right, you are getting better.
Not because I'm not...
If you see valuables, you just buy it, don't you? Yeah, I just like it's your threshold for seeing valuables.
But that is also both of your influence. We pull you out with them. Yeah. What about you,
Jenny? Because this is interesting for you. The probably the biggest one for me is boundaries.
And what I mean by that is, I will, so similar to you I suppose, like I would love to be able to
shut my laptop at 4 o'clock and go train and forget about work for us today, but no matter how many
times I tell myself to do that, I can't. So I need, I need to force boundaries on myself, but that
also leads to me being like I'm late for stuff, or I'll procrastinate with things sometimes and do them right the last minute.
It was really bad without you,
like I would do all my projects right the last minute.
As well, like the developer of Frozen Turkey,
like it's got into our heads and nose that.
I think everyone does it.
Like everyone procrastinates on something.
It's just that I,
partly, I suppose,
I hold myself to a really high standard with everything, which is stupid.
And I don't allow myself any leeway for just being human being.
Yes, that's something that I think you're very good at.
And I know Sam Bevan's talking about rewiring your brain to look for the most difficult
thing of the day and just be here, isn't it?
Is, let's say you've got 10 minutes before you have to go out.
I'd be like, oh, that's not quite long enough to do like a live video or whatever,
whereas you'll be like, what should I do?
That poll, that execute versus strategist things
are a big deal, like which I'm, I haven't completed.
Right, I got, sorry, I'm really good
with executing that, but like,
put a load of washing in, I'll be crossing it out.
Weird, like, this, cause there's no water attached to it, right?
Like if it's like, it's kind of funny.
Johnny Solve is really complex,
well I'm fucking bringing it on my eye.
And I sit and do it for three hours.
Johnny did the dishes.
But if it's like Johnny,
like unloaded the dishwasher.
I know.
Alex.
Why don't we do a couple of quickfire ones
and then we got a really, really good meaty one.
I mean, what are Johnny's most
and least favorite crossfit movements,
except squats and deadlifts?
At least favourite is running in burpees. Okay, so the way it's separated is if I have to move
something while being stationary, really enjoy it, if I have to move myself, I don't enjoy it
typically. So pull ups, I find hard, toes to bar bar hard, burpees hard, running extremely hard,
running should just be removed from CrossFit entirely.
If it's like rowing, echo bike,
anything with the barbell, anything with the dumbbell,
bring it on out of the laugh.
What about dumbbell box stepovers?
You've done those, yeah?
Box stepovers, yeah.
So 222 and a half, so in either, in either hand,
just step over the box.
Don't need to step up at the top, just get over it.
It is the most gluity thing you've ever done
in daylight.
Devils are pretty bad.
Devils are so mean.
No, you can do it however.
You can do it however.
Most people go straight on and then twist and turn.
They're actually thrusters ahead.
Anything's front rack.
Is there a lack of air inducing on there?
Another quick one.
Fitness Ames for 2020.
RX the open.
RX the open, yeah.
That's a fucking great aim, you know.
Like just as something I wanna be able to get
all of the fundamental movements,
and I wanna, you know, place.
I heard, see, remember I went to see Adam Middleton.
So he spoke about, like, you have a flame inside you,
which is like you're like enthusiasm for things. And he's like, everybody gets to a point in their life where the flame starts to, this
is a really long-winded thing.
Flame starts to flicker out and die.
And he's like, what you've got to do at that point is reignite the flame.
And as he said that, Becca looked at me and went, that's what you would do, isn't it?
And I was like, I've never thought about it before, but at that time, I'd just signed
up, I just don done six months across the, and I could feel the flame flickering,
whatever, fitness in general, like nutrition, couldn't give a shit,
training, boring, mobility, don't care. Whereas now I switched, and suddenly,
like, I love training again. And like, it doesn't matter that it,
what would you think you two years ago?
I told myself that. So I think that I really want to do like a long content piece on this,
because I think two things are annoying.
One is, I don't think CrossFit is what everyone wants it to be.
I think it's a sport.
I think it's a great way of expressing, like holding your fitness into something.
But I think there are other attributes that you should be focusing on as well
in other ways of training, that are sensible, that ideally feed in across it.
But also people who just relentlessly criticize things in the fitness industry,
having never tried them. Like we say it all the time, like keto shit, like,
if you ever try keto, like, how long do you don't keep it for?
Oh, you don't try how convenient that, uh,
period of shape, how long you don't pay for. Like. Like we have thrown out, like we lay on the train tracks
and like is the train gonna kill me?
I don't know, we'll find out.
Like, because I just, people, like lay in across it
and we used to do it and then I was like,
well, we can't keep doing this.
And because you try to get one class.
I don't see two classes.
Both vomit and two same.
People in the gym still remember that, yeah.
Oh really Tim, Tim Briggs still talks about it to this day. Two glasses. Both vomit and two same. People in the gym still remember that, yeah. Oh, really Tim.
Tim Riggs still talks about it to this day.
Oh, no.
Well, that's perpetuated by the fact that you're always
on the podcast.
Yeah.
Fitness ends for 2020.
Three flares on the floor.
So flares are...
Shh.
It's when you're in trouble on, oh, it's C, and you have to.
You will have seen people do on the Pummel Horse,
where legs are wide, moving, yeah, that's advanced.
It's so hard.
Because you've got one, I've seen you do one.
I've just nailed two on the floor.
Well, not nailed.
Is there going to be really difficult to get?
Yeah, because what I'm doing with the two is that I'm basically just coasting on the momentum
from just winging myself around, but it's bad form.
So what do you have to do
to do that? Like how do you just do more? Because if you can only do two flares, right?
You can't train flares. Both legs like up, that's all alongside your face. So what I mean is like
and how do you train for that? So I got a mushroom from eBay, which I've been doing, but if
forces you into bad habits, because obviously you're into bad habits, because obviously your legs can go below the floor. So actually, you learn, you're almost in
great a wrong technique, you're in great one that's good for pommel horse but not for
floor. So now I'm forcing on getting more lift and just like, you do have to be able to
get into like a really comfortable pancake like active as well. So I was, yeah, yeah, I've said flex has just been able to like, to do that.
And then try sexual as well. Yeah, this is why, this is why gymnasts and
mother fuckers. They're so impressive. We went, I went to a handstand workshop with James Bailey
and a guy called Yuval Avalon who is a ex is really Olympic gymnast and now like a handstand.
He's, he's monster like, just special forces. handstand. He's monster, like just like special forces.
Special forces.
He's like 50 years old, he's in incredible shape.
And he someone asked him,
how do I do elephant lift?
Which is, you know, he's like,
when your legs are wide on the floor,
you put your hands on the floor,
and you lift into a handstand.
And he did it like a beautiful one.
And then he was like, it's not about strength.
Look at this.
And he did one, but on the floor.
So he sat down, had his feet out in front of him,
like a nice of degrees, lean forward,
and then slid his feet all the way around,
so he was just lying on his front
and then brought his feet back around again,
so he sat up again.
So he was like, my hips have just got the full,
yeah, full gyroscopic hips.
So he's like, if you can do that, then you're not actually lifting.
You're just putting your hands on the floor and you're already flat.
All you have to do is just lift your legs up.
So mine, I just need to be able to train again, man.
Like, I know. So is that the, is that the, like, that's what you're moving towards?
My fitness aim for the end of 2020 would be able to do RX all of the CrossFit movements
at 40 kilos if there's weight on it, pain free and without fear. So currently I'm not lifting,
I don't do anything. Like I just do my rehab and it's a fucking destitute place to be
of someone who's used to training. But these are the sacrifices that I need to make and people at
Brian Carroll's split his fucking sacrum in half front to back.
And went back and he's now gonna try and squat
1,200 pounds at 275, which would be the first
man on the planet to ever do it.
And like, stop fucking complaining.
Your problem is not as bad as you think it is.
You're still able to do some things.
It's a good idea.
You suck it up and crack on.
I'm consistently impressed with your boredom tolerance
for the big three,
or for doing any rehab movements.
Like, you're going to the gym and just do rehab, but that would drive me mental.
It's actually because I'm very selfish, it's because I want to train.
I want to train so badly that I'm prepared to do something super boring to be able to train again.
So, it's just like, I'm almost surprised at myself for that long-termist mentality.
All the powerlifting world is probably the biggest example of people who, like, lay
in Norton, dinged his back like three times, I think, right before me. And there's videos
of him like, you just keep saying brick, brick, brick, brick, brick. So he like works
out and he's like, does 300 for a double, back goes again. Is that right? Back to doing
like bird dogs and he's just the whole, he's building it like gob God bless you guys but you just keep going. You need it for years. In Dominable man. Recommendations for the best wearable
fitness tech. So you have gone back to where you've gone back to where in the Wootband. Why?
Whoop. Quick one. Why? Mainly because when you're doing part of the thing the only thing that's
relevant for it really is HIV. So the strain, the strain's mainly a cardio measure, like your heart rate zones and other things.
So it's just interest really.
Plus, the new weeper.
Have you ordered a new strap?
Yeah. Is it arriving soon?
Yeah, I'll be interested.
Well, I've ordered the weep three.
Oh, yeah, okay.
So they sent me a thing saying, if you just re-subscribe, we'll send you a Woop 3.
For me, so that's what I like.
I like three things.
Do you have any wearable fitness stuff?
Oh, withings.
Withings.
Oh, yeah, the with it.
So Chris kindly gave me a Widdings watch,
which is good, just tracks.
It's very, it's like first gen,
so it's just tracks heart rate.
It's so thin.
And I know he's even kind of,
it's like a very good, I don't know. I know you've got even kind of, it's like I'm getting good at that.
I want to get, I want to try and all ring George,
so he would lend me his, see whether I like it
on my buy one, I use a muse headband for meditation.
Just so.
Which is what?
For soul, man.
Did you?
Okay, so I mean, that,
it's very good for a certain style of meditation.
They claim that the new gen accounts for more
like heart-oriented meditation. Yeah, those are new gen accounts for more like heart-oriented.
Yeah, as he wants to go out like,
heart-mind stuff, heart-ins.
Okay, so you can do different styles.
It certainly does correlate to wearable EEG
that you could correlate with the level of concentration
that you have.
And what was the other one?
There's a heart-math institute device.
I think you wear it around your chest
that I'm interested in buying it was $200
But I'm not if you're listening just send this one out. We'll do that. I'll be lovely
But I need to justify that to myself by using them use more consistently. Yeah, I think like even just fit bit
Just I think there's no there's no downside just having something
Mm-hmm. I need what I need is something as comfortable as a whoop,
which gives me the same reader as a whoop,
but has the time.
Yeah, I just need to have the time.
I need the time.
Because if I had something that had the time,
it's displayless.
If I had something that had the time
when I wouldn't need to get my phone out
to check the time, then you're looking for.
Yeah, so.
So you're thinking to get a new whoop there?
I'm gonna try the three,
because I did like the reader on that,
and I've noticed that I'm not taking as much care about my sleep
because I sleep with my phone out of the room which means that I can't use
sleep cycle and also I can't track what sort of quality my sleep is through
sleep ranges. The biggest thing for me is just wearing it more like a watch
position. So I was obsessed, you know, they recommend like wearing it up here.
I was obsessed with that and it was making it fit weird for me. The new one, the new one with the new strap will be better.
Very quick one.
At what point do you draw the line when it comes to the trade off between personal data
and personalized slash tracking services, eG wearable tech?
I just think as soon as it takes up more than a couple of minutes, you day just
fuck it off.
Like if I think what that question's asking, I think is like privacy, yeah.
Oh.
I think giving you stuff away.
I think.
Oh shit, yes, of course it is.
Sorry, Alfie, I'm fucking mad at my aunt.
Yes.
I don't care.
Yeah, I don't go fuck.
However, 23 me and ancestry and stuff like that,
apparently there's some people that don't you shit about.
There's some people that are getting convicted for crimes.
They're committed because they're able to find the genetic profile through that.
Which is like, that's scary shit.
Right, you're a good one here.
Mr. San Shrew.
I ask this already with my own answer,
but interested to hear your threes living 20 plus years under the idea
that we aren't admired for the depths of our perception.
In reference to Chris' favourite writings, I'll end a bottom on the high degree of loneliness
and it's an extra part of being a sensitive, intelligent human.
Do you feel the greater your investment and depth of progress in modern wisdom and
correlating practice, the more compounded the sense of loneliness?
For one of a better word, follow up, do does ignorance out?
Do you think ignorance really would be bliss?
Does he mean ignorance from the, well, obviously you don't know, but like is it ignorance
from the perspective of the root of self-improvement?
So the question, the main question here is, do you feel the greater your investment and depth
of progress in modern wisdom and correlating practice, the more compounded the sense of loneliness.
Well, I suppose in the most basic sense, like there are fewer and fewer people who have
reliable experiences.
Yeah.
To good question, I understand what you're asking.
So the Alain DeBotten video from the School of Life, which is why we're
fated to be lonely, basically says that people who have subtle country are allowing points of view
less likely to be accepted by society at large because of the mimetic nature of us as beings
and the fact that we're tribal and we want to be accepted given the choice between honesty and
acceptability. Most of us will compromise our honesty in order to be accepted by people that were around. And the long and short of that is that a lot of
people compromise who they are so that they can be around people that aren't like them, but just
so they're around people. And like I did that for a very long time. The bottom line is, and it's
the thing that we continue to come back to with everybody that I speak to, absolutely everyone, from Andrew Doyle, the guy that created Tanya McGrath,
Sam Harris wrote an entire book on it, John Peterson, it's one of his number one rules,
tell the truth, and if you're telling the truth, you can't, you have to follow whatever
that particular calling is, you have to do the thing which calls to you. And for me, personally,
the more tools that I've got in my toolbox, the better I've been at actually being effective
because my sense of solitude, not loneliness, the time that I spend on my own, I love.
Like, there are fewer and fewer people that I can really, really genuinely connect with about
everything that I do, but there are more people that I can connect with about some things that I can really, really, genuinely connect with about everything that I do, but there are
more people that I can connect with about some things that I do.
Yeah.
There's more arms to what I can talk about.
I can now go talk about back health.
I genuinely have an hour's on conversation about back health.
I couldn't have done that before I started learning things.
I think you, it's the same as like a business serving in niche, right?
Like if you try and serve everyone you end up serving no one, I think you, the people
you end up meeting as a result of just going down the route of modern wisdom and the conversations
you end up having.
Like, if you put us three in a bar for an evening, you're like, you've got to sit in the
bar and just talk about whatever you want.
Like, how much of that time would we spend talking about, like, surface level, pointless conversation?
Like, it would all be, like, some really deep, like, the other people would walk in and have
the fuck you talk about, like, but we end up talking about the finest details with something
that we're really interested in, that other people may think is weird, but where we're
having the best conversation ever, because it's something we're more interested in. So you either have like talk about like
match in the day, or something that you really, really care about.
They're deeply passionate about. What about yourself, or do you think?
It's, yeah, it's something you have to make a choice about, whether you are just hanging
around with people for the sake of being with people. And if you're compromising on who you are for
that, I think you have to need to really ask yourself the question of maybe with people. And if you're compromising on who you are for that, I think you need to really ask yourself the question
of maybe it's better to actually withdraw
and pursue what you love and think about.
Embed yourself in the thoughts and pursuits
that you enjoy, and then you will find people that resonate
like we're in an age where you can find people like that so easily now
If you are someone that is feeling lonely and not something you're aware of I think personally
I've not felt loneliness for a long time because I think my life is very much the opposite like I'm just getting pounded wherever I
Wherever I go like turn up at work and you just, your phone is just going mental and beat your ears
and demand and you come home and you, you know,
your messages and your phone and everything's like,
so I think for me, I also very much value just alone time
because it's like, oh,
the difference.
So I love CalMuePort's definition of solitude,
which is time away from the input of other people's thoughts. Yeah. And there's
difference between being on your own and solitude, because you can have all of these things with
and without loneliness, but most people don't actually have solitude. They have their
foam with them while they're on their own, or they're on their own, but with the TV or
nor with the radio or whatever it is, that's not necessarily
solitude. Solitude would be you with no other stimulus other than you on output journaling
or writing. If you're always trying to escape that loneliness by like having something
on in the background or whatever, then I suppose that's where you're going to ask yourself
for questions. Do I need to sit and think about hang on what can I what am I not engaging with or what I what should I be engaging with mentally that is that I'm avoiding
The follow up with wood ignorance be blessed john pizza said this is live show long story short
He says that
The
Thing which poisons you need to take enough of for it to be a toxic to turn a
Toxin into a tonic and he says that the progression through these particular issues is not a regression
It's more it's take more of what it is that you think that poisons you until it becomes a tonic that fixes you
So anyone who knows the allegory of the cave play as allegory of the cave. It's that exact story
So just go listen to play as allegory of the cave, then you'll understand exactly what I mean.
I don't think ignorance is bliss. Like some people coast through life, but it is both a blessing and a curse to feel everything so very deeply like, and what?
Like fuck me, I would much sooner be able to appreciate the beauty of everything with real fidelity, and then I have to suffer a little bit, because you don't really live your life on the couch just chilled out fucking within the tightest interquartile
range of human experience. Like much sooner die and I've highs and lows than I've just
constantly lived in a bit of comfort.
The biggest example of this for me was leaving corporate life, leaving 95 life and being
entrepreneur. Thrown into the fucking ether.
Yeah, because it's quite a lonely experience at times,
especially if you're sat by yourself,
something bad happens on your computer screen.
And it sends you into this emotional,
and you're just there on your own,
you've just got to sit with that experience
whereas the analogy I always say is like as an entrepreneur,
you're in a dinghy on the top of the sea, while there's a storm happening.
If you're an employee you're like on the riverbed and someone goes, you know there's a storm
up there, fucking hell.
Sorry I have someone on it, someone's on it, where's your like, bro?
I'm trying to like, fix a hold of it.
Yeah, I want to go on the phone.
You suck it out.
It's a really fucking great energy.
So like, you know, and then you're like,
well, you have moments where you're like,
it would be easier just so that when I think ignorance is bliss,
for me, the thing I think of as well,
you could just go sit in an office and like chat with people
about love Island and, yeah, that's obviously
I'm very generalizing, but like this is sat by yourself,
looking at a computer screen, fucking, I'm like, that's spoon trouble.ified, generalizing, but like, this is sat by yourself looking at a computer screen for fucking dealing with a spoon trouble.
Yeah, try to block your tap.
Life isn't lived from the comfort you couch, one.
I got one.
Very keen to hear Mr. Sanjuru, if you have any examples,
normal or very silly, where ignorance would be bliss.
Because I'd like, it's a great thought experiment.
Like, are there any situations where date of death, date and method of death? So, so you reckon that would be,
you'd prefer not to know. I can't think of a situation now. I'm sure there would be
where. Fire it in the comments below. We want to hear. I got one more, I got one more
before we'll go back on to yours.
This is from Andrew Tate.
He is very interesting in that personality
and a good online mate of mine.
Can I ask if True Jordy regrets doing a hit piece on me?
Now everyone knows he loves Dildos.
Oh dear.
True Jordy is a background of that.
So True Jordy's Instagram DMs have been leaked
in which he talks at length
about liking to be humiliated, about sucking the dick of a black man after it's been inside of
this girl that he's talking to about this girl humiliating him and putting dildos inside of his
ass, about him then sucking the dildos after they've been inside of his own ass. He's leaked it.
It was all over Twitter, man.
Because you're not on Twitter, but it is everywhere
at the moment.
And he called out Andrew Tate.
Andrew Tate did this ridiculously big tweet
about why he doesn't like Star Wars.
And it went like a hype of viral.
And Andrew and Lawrence went when I'm fairly hard.
And Andrew's recently done a video
where he's just like,
just gotta be careful, just be careful.
Exactly what he said.
He's like, man, if you've got shit like this
lurking around, don't come after someone like me.
I don't know whether I don't think it's him that leaked it,
but I think the bigger lesson from that is like people think that
When they type something in iMessage or WhatsApp or Instagram DM that like it's in this little private world that no one's gonna
Fucking screenshot away from being public. Yeah exactly. What you got gives another one. Let's do some quick fight once that's moved through
If you could have chosen your own name, what would you've picked?
I've got a bossed.
Oh!
Barmort.
Do you believe in media?
No, no, no, no, no, come on.
You're like, I don't know.
I'm quite happy with you, sir.
It's a very common name in the Arab world, but here it's...
I was going to be Jonathan.
We're really.
What's going to be Jonathan?
And then... What do you want at that?
I don't mind.
Jonathan's cool name.
There's one of the problems that I have with Jonathan
is the number of different ways that there are to spell it.
Johnathan, Johnathan, John N.
That's sort of John, Johnny, John.
How do you call it?
Johnny, John, Johnny, John.
The sort of the Christian connotation of Christopher.
Not by those.
Not by those. Not by those.
No, by those.
Jonathan's biblical as well.
I don't know.
I like Johnny.
I don't like Jonathan, but it's a link to like Jonathan.
I like the fact that I've got two versions of my name,
Chris and Christopher.
So do you get, I suppose you don't have a short version of
your name, do you?
Seth.
But like, but it's okay. So an example, like let's say you get, I suppose you don't have a short version of your name do you? Seth. You, but like, but okay, so an example, like let's say you are, like someone has,
has got no you a bit and they call you Chris, rather than Christopher, do you have any
of the things like, ah, no. So I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, we Johnny, it's like they know me. Who's supposed to Johnny? Yeah, because if I get a senior on the internet. Yeah, yeah, whereas if I get a Jonathan,
it's normally in a formal scenario,
but Johnny is friends.
So if someone in a positional authority
calls me Johnny, you're like, I'm trying an example.
It's just a good little canary in the coal mine
about where they're at.
Yeah, like to the cultures in Classical, you're Jonathan,
but when they're out of Classical,
they're Johnny. That's good.
They're called me Johnny. What was that? Do we believe in mediums? Yeah, what's it called? Do you believe in Classical, you Jonathan, but when they're out of Classical, you Johnny. Johnny, that's good. What was that?
Do we believe in mediums?
Yeah, it was gone.
Do you believe in mediums?
Do you think there are some actual science behind their practices?
No.
Darren Brown.
Go watch the loads of Darren Brown.
We went to Iceland and all we did was watch the loads of Darren Brown.
I loved it.
Because there was a blizzard.
Are you going to grow?
It's fucking blizzard.
What was the blizzard? Are you going to grow? It's a fucking blizzard. Are you going to grow your hair again?
No.
The best type of male underwear, grenade wear or smuggling duds.
What is the funniest thing you have ever seen a stranger do?
Fuck me.
Oh.
Wow.
I reckon you'll have seen...
There was one that you said the other day. Excuse me, I'm not being funny, right?
Oh, the brain problem.
That's fairly funny.
We've had so many things happen at events we've been to, we're at the time.
The event isn't that funny, but retrospectively, like, fucking hilarious.
But I can't, none that would like transit on this.
Right, here we go.
I don't believe in mediums, by the way.
Do.
Yeah.
But not any, anyone that advertises themselves to be one, isn't one.
I think if you're at the point where you're starting to like see glimmers of things that
are outside of you, human reality, you'll be deep in a cave somewhere not really caring
about trying to prove it to anyone.
So by the time you're immediately, and for anyone listening, if you're a medium, you will know,
you're going to be so off the deep end that it is right.
I'm speaking of cigarettes.
You're rubbing your face on the ground in the weeds.
Like what do you have to game from like being like, oh, mate,
I can, because he's chatting to dead people. Yeah. But if you want, from being like, oh mate, I can... Because you chat with dead people.
Yeah.
But if you can chat for hours.
That is a very good point.
If you're a medium and you have access
to the entire history of all dead people,
what the fuck you speak in Sharon's mumfell?
Oh yeah, it could be.
Oh, that's so true.
Fuck it, gus.
Nicola Tesla's out there and you're...
Well, you put it like that,
it is completely ridiculous.
Completely ridiculous. Especially when Bruce Lee,
all the people are like, well, you know,
Shadden, she's here, there's a calling,
there's a calling.
Hey, like, there's someone with an H,
H and N, is it Harold or Harry or
Harry, Hermione?
And it's Hermione, I thought it was.
Yeah, and the old scout. It's just a guy I'm doing Brown. He got his absolutely home-drawn
and courted by. Yeah, he got done.
Yeah, it's funny to think you've ever seen a stranger do. It wasn't a stranger, but
drove Darren Helm after the staff Christmas party a couple of years ago and I saw him throw
up on the ground on Jezman Backroad and then as he came up from throwing up
he threw up again standing upright and the force of him throwing up, literally, pushing backwards
and he fell over in mud. Oh god. That was fucking at the time, side splitting in the hilarious.
Something that, so related to that, this is just something that occurs to me that was funny at the time.
I was 18, I was in basement in Newcastle. Everyone was drinking skittles and trebles and we had
this thing where it was called a TP or a tactical puke. Probably heard of that tactical
chunder, was fun.
So you just keep going to keep going. So we're out in the alleyway in the three of us
and making ourselves be sick. Successful. So there's everyone's like, you know, things
aren't threatened. And then like one person, and that encourages number two to be sick and
number three to be sick.
And there was a guy walking down the alley at the time, who saw that, not on a night out.
Sores big sick and consequently was sick.
Just like soar and just the smell and even the urge of song throat where you smell it,
isn't it?
And then him being sick, like makes you want to be sick again and they're using this
self-affirming, everyone's throwing up for hours.
That was very funny.
Johnny, what we got, let's keep on moving through these.
Oh god, no, not that. through these questions. Someone wants to hear Matt Hoy wants to hear your nocturnal
emission story. Oh, it's in Vipassana 10-day retreat. Long story short. You see, it was
on a silent meditation retreat. It wasn't allowed to think about sex or you're not allowed
to master it. Didn't you have a day in the retreat where you just thought about it sex?
Was that the day?
I think it was the day after.
Yeah, so Daniel Ingram says that,
because I thought, like,
because I remember David describing this and like day one is sadness,
day two is feared and he's...
Day three is porn.
And I said this to Daniel Ingram,
he's like the guy who's like completed meditation and he was like,
yes, that's what happens. He's like, that's the anatomy of the mind.
Like everyone has that exact sequence of emotions that go through on each of the 10 days.
I don't think I've ever had a wet dream.
And you have a wet dream.
I have a wet dream.
You have them in the end.
You have them constantly.
Yeah, you've never had that.
I never had that.
If you've had a wet dream, I never had. It's if you just... If you've had a weight training, comment below.
Yeah.
Of my friends that I've had this conversation with,
I think it's 50-50 split.
Really?
Quite a lot of people have.
And what's going on?
I mean, to come in my pants.
In my pants.
I did a come in my pants.
So you woke up in a bunk bed after having done a come.
And then drop kicked a man with come in your path. A French man.
You couldn't speak to him.
Couldn't even apologize.
Yeah, because you're not allowed to.
But you just, you think I just kept laughing?
I think I'm not about that, is that,
because the whole idea of not making eye contact
is that you don't like fuck with anyone's chi, isn't it?
You know, you fuck with me.
You've dropped kicked a man with come in your path.
And for the rest of the week,
wherever you walk past him, you burst out laughing.
Like, if there's a way to fuck with someone's head,
the problem is it was like a mad, mad laugh.
I'm just kidding.
Like, I'm just staring myself.
And so he was to thought I was like,
knocking in relent.
Exactly.
So you're gonna go sit meditate for 10 hours a day.
And all you can think about is that weird bloke
who looks like that pirate from the
Captain Manor. He can't even look like Captain Hook. Yes, he is him. The guy with
Smitty who keeps stopping him from getting in the Neverland. He dropped kick to me,
fucking me, yeah. He's coming running down his leg. Right. If using
creating, should I use it on non-training days? Yes. Just propin fitness.com
force that's creating. How's Just propinifitness.com for us as creating. Yeah.
How is the propinifitness space program progressing?
Space program.
That's a question.
Did we...
Casper...
Sorinson.
Casper.
It's because in your...
One of your slides is a put of a...
Spaseman tumblin.
Doing this a tumblin.
Jesus Christ.
That is such a...
Attention, indeed.
High fidelity attention, yeah, exactly.
Right.
Well, Johnny's legs so long. Why are Johnny's legs so long?
Obbs, because powerlifting.
And why, why is that?
Obbs, because powerlifting.
Tom Wilkes.
All right.
Tom Wilkes Booth.
Yeah.
I think I was there.
He was even made his last name powerlifting, right?
So it's not Wilkes.
We're only once the IPF formula.
Okay.
Who is the coolest person who listens to modern wisdom? My mom. My mom lives in the small wisdom. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know.
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I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don to Modern Wisdom, who love it. No, man. I mean are they all cool, I suppose they are.
Some of them are fucking fit. If you would have picked a favourite Modern Wisdom episode
from the last 100 that we've done, what would it be? Any that stand up?
How the Survivor University continues to come back as a fucking beltic,
because I wish I'd had it. I enjoyed business one and one,
the first business one, just because I think those stories
are always like, at the time, not funny at all.
When things go wrong, not funny at all,
but afterwards hilarious.
It's true.
Lifehacks 107 was very good as well, I remember.
But, I don't know.
Could you talk about some lifehacks?
Yeah, we probably, yeah.
Lifehacks 107 was where we really went off.
I think it's like an hour and 40.
It's like a real problem.
Other fucking one.
What other questions and last I've got.
Oh, the second one.
Yeah.
How to one.
How to start improving the value of your in a circle
and stepping away from negative slash passive people
Be friends with people that want the best for you Jordan Pete's and all over again
Just in terms of how you do that
Someone asked us a question today about like how do you improve your network?
And I just said
For me, it's always been the gym I I think. We have the most interesting people.
If you want to meet interesting people, go to interesting places.
Not only I say the gym is an interesting place, but you can say, for fairly sure, as long
as you're not going to a class and exercise for less or whatever, if you go to something
that you're interested in, you'll probably find someone who's interested in the same thing.
They're probably also interested in other self-development things.
So I think that you'll find those people, yeah, if you go to the hangout of the interest for
that thing, and you're more likely to find a higher quality people within that, if you join
something that's behind a paywall, so if you join a mentorship or a gym or something that's exclusive, but it's for people
that because they've all put their money where their mouth is and they've all decided to
enter into a network or something to really take things faster.
George McGill, when does Johnny plan on using Snapchat ads?
That's really awesome.
Jesus Christ, I'm not answering that question.
There you go, sorry, George. It'm not answering that question. There you go.
Sorry, George.
It's a good suggestion, George.
I'm looking into it.
Social commando, what are your thoughts on
Insta removing the follower and the like numbers?
It's fine.
I don't like the idea of follower,
because I think that it is an indicator of credibility.
Do you think they're going to do that?
They're trying the removal of likes. I think there's no like countering on Australia.
They can't remove comments, surely, because then you can't comment on that.
You can't see the number of comments. You can't see the engagement basically on posts, so much to grow.
I wonder why they're doing that.
And young people being obsessed with
it.
It's an interesting experiment.
I think it's affected a lot of influencers negatively.
Well, that's their credibility, right?
Their credibility is.
It's their currencies, yeah, exactly.
You've just made a big career.
You turn, how did you make that big decision and implement it?
I think we discussed this in business principles, one or two, definitely worth listening back
to.
You just said, fuck it, I'm sick.
It was, yeah, it was pain avoidance rather than some kind of noble motivation to, yeah.
You're all successful professionals.
These are from all sexual professionals.
You are all sexual professionals and within fitness, nutrition, meal prep,
and with them, okay, nutrition, meal prep, hacks and tips. Slow cooker.
Oh, no, what's the question?
I'm not sure about the first bit, just nutrition, slash meal prep, hacks and tips.
Just drop it, drop it. Slow cooker.
Yeah.
For me, removing gluten, removing like big sauces of gluten and dairy has helped like I can't believe you said that Chris
It used to be a lot of pasta, didn't you? I've just switched it to different starch carbs, right?
Did you go like um?
Fireballer god in will you won't go? No, just little
There's a pump on the pump as if to throw you down I think
Did that not do that that's what I do
Remember that actually I'm not Cel Do you want to do that one, too? I do.
And I remember that actually I'm not Celia, can it's fine?
You listen to me.
We all occasionally have epically failed slash down days, slash get pissed off.
How do you deal with them?
She ingested.
Mm.
Changed the temperature.
So move.
So here's an interesting thing.
I'll be one of the chat to you about this.
Age as a go, you said, I get the same zero one
mentality shift from training.
I mean you should follow.
But with CrossFit, you definitely do.
And I think it's because you get there as a definitely finished session
like, and you're immediately in about mood and you're immediately forgotten what you're
worrying about before.
So that's what made me go back to like just get up, go for a run, do something, change
your temperature, cold shower, hot shower, coffee, the matlin, listen to a bear to yourself.
Yeah, the commonality there is get out of your head and chew your body. Yeah, and then
Yeah, I mean I said the quote is I get a better mindset reset
From training than I do from a night's sleep. Yeah, and that's true
My I'm more I wonder whether this has actually been made worse by my meditation practice the fact that my motions are a little bit more transparent
To me now
and concentration clarity and equanimity, I'm trying to hold them with more of that, which
actually means that they're more visceral and they're more of the forefront of everything.
But yeah, just go train. I have like real depressive episodes which I haven't had, thankfully
I haven't had really that much recently. So when it's those ones, it's a there's not really much
of a solution like when it's a proper can't get out of bed day, try and get out of bed,
try and go for a little walk. I did a tweet not long ago that said, almost all of the problems
in my life can be fixed by a terminate walk, a good night's sleep, a glass of water, or
a wank.
The idea you all at once. Actually, a guy to follow for that sort of stuff is Paul Norton. There's a he's, was diagnosed with bipolar, you know?
Yeah, and what?
Had like professional help, but now, like, self-managers, and he has a lot of stuff about
state change, and his, I think his quote is like, is did.agers and he has a lot of stuff about state change and his, I think
his quote is like, where attention goes, energy flows. So he does a lot of stuff about,
like, focusing on, you feel that way. So it's like, right, what a win I've had today.
Like, I'm just going to focus on, I'm just going to put all my energy that this thing
or, you know, he, like, goes and gets in his car and plays music really loud and goes for a drive.
You can immediately think like, oh, that's probably very nice.
What do you think is the biggest factor in sticking to your goals and avoiding getting distracted?
That's from Jake. You need to know what your goals are. I'm terrible. I've never done proper
genuine long-term planning for goals ever. I just think you can. But I've never done any
sort of moderately formalised process. The closest that I've come is future authoring from
John Peterson and I did half of the course. So I just sticking to your goals requires you to have
goals and unless you go through a process of working out what it is that you want and then So I just sticking to your goals requires you to have goals
and unless you go through a process of working out what it is that you want
and then deciding how you even begin to move towards that.
You're just like 90% of people will say,
I don't achieve or I haven't achieved my goals.
You say, okay, what are your goals? And then what have an answer? So this is the quote that Chris often quotes, which is he who has the right why can bear almost any
how from nature. And like, yeah, if you know what the high level thing that you're aiming for is
then putting those jigsaw pieces into place becomes much more effortless because it's all
with a greater purpose in mind. The thing is if you wake up you're just falling into it. The thing that
made me feel like a prick was the quote from James Smith. James Smith, James Clear, where
he's like, or someone rephrased it was like everyone on the start line of the 100 meters
Olympics has the goal to win the 100 meters
but one of them wins and the only difference is not the goal the difference is the process
spend all this time like setting these goals in your life you know actually
like Bill Gates has got a goal like there's probably similar business goals like growers business
but he really he really achieves it. Nat Elizson has a great rebuttal to that, that systems without goals are pointless.
So the system has to have a be attached to something.
Sorry I agree with that, yeah.
It's really good.
Really nice compliment to that.
The ever accepting nature of the CrossFit community, where does it come from, or is the CrossFit
member base the most affluent fitness consumers on Earth?
Probably a bit of that.
So CrossFit's quite an elitist, like quite a, especially in the UK, it's pretty privileged, like very white, very middle class, at least in our gym,
and wearing the, you know, in the thick of a new castle.
Selling a new castle, isn't that interesting Yeah, hardly, hardly that Toftsville.
It's only that one's carved.
Yeah, it is indeed.
Yeah, it's, that is a good point.
I think one of the other things is that CrossFit's branded itself as, it looks cool.
Like if you dress like a powerlifter outside of the gym, people walk on the other side
of the street to you.
If you dress like a CrossFitfit or outside of the gym,
you look like someone that does fitness.
I mean, yeah.
It's a commercially acceptable face of powerlifting,
strength sports, endurance.
You don't have to wear tights, you don't have to wear a wetsuit,
you don't have to wear weird heavy-metal t-shirts and a beard.
It's a very, yes, perjure.
and like a beard and it's it's very um this perjure. It's just a little like the research. I'm talking about Chris Williams. Yeah it's a surgical that. I've certainly felt
extremely welcomed and I didn't expect that. I thought I'd get like who's this guy who you know
big 300 kilo deadlift like that's showing him yeah but it's
been the opposite of that it's been you know like coaches like taking extra time to explain
something like I can't do toaster bar like how bad is that but explaining it to me but the I
think for me it's the it's the branding probably like they make it look aspirational you don't watch
you don't even watch Olympic lifting on TV.
It's probably that, like Olympic lifting is strong man.
Not many people sit and watch,
like Brian Shaw at Christmas and think,
fuck me, I wanna look like Brian Shaw.
Like, well, I like Brian Shaw's like,
they look at the guy,
I'd like, imagine he's gonna have a bar back.
Whereas you watch the CrossFit documentaries
and you think, like Rich Fr Froning just like, badass.
Like, you can do all this stuff, he looks good.
Healthy, healthy.
Go to like rounded family life.
Yeah.
Like, you hear the stories about Eddie Hall,
like where he was at when he was, yeah, he's,
going proper, shredded.
But when he was at the peak of his career,
he was like, my, he was, he was pretty adamant
with another six months of marriage,
he would have been fucked.
He had like multiple heart attacks as well,
it was fucked, yeah, fully fucked strong back. Have you got, have you seen that you've
got some new ones on the second story? Yeah, what would be your ultimate lifehuck,
which you already kind of covered on? Yeah, um,
Swap up, yeah. Should trans athletes be allowed to compete as the gender they identify as?
So I really like Joe Rogan's perspective on this, I don't know what I mean. Which is the Should trans athletes be allowed to compete as the gender they identify as?
I really like Joe Rogan's perspective on this.
Which is that with combat sports particularly,
we need to be very careful about,
is it progressive to allow someone who has been physiologically a man for 30 years
and transitioned very recently to beat up
a woman when there isn't unfair combat advantage in terms of reflexes.
So that's an advantage on this idea that it's someone's biological capabilities that
influence by the gender they were birthed or like the sex they were, I don't know.
Well, I'll be saying it wrong, you know what I mean?
Yeah, like the, you know, if you take gender out of it and you say you have two humans,
competing in a combat sport, one of them has had 30 years of testosterone and then it stops
a testosterone.
And that's influenced their physiology in such a way that they have an unfair advantage
is that fair from a sporting
perspective. And I think you've got to really separate the socio-cultural issues of gender and
gender politics from just the pure sporting judgment. What are just hormones? Yeah, hormones are one
of the most important things in competitive sport
Like dick pound Yeah, which is the head of water or like it maybe was like dick pound is silent
He is all he's thinking about is hormones. What are we allowing people to have in their bodies and not having their bodies?
And then you take as you say like someone who's like 30 years of
High levels of testosterone and then they decide to compete
with women.
You've got two things running up against each other, which is one, someone's right to
express the gender identity that they feel they should express in a sport that they love
and the other is.
Sporting fairness.
Yeah.
Because it doesn't yet have to be.
Even before all of the safety things, it's like a hundred metre sprint.
I think the evening, I think it might be golf or tennis, it's in tennis, like the thousands
of the man in the world would beat Serena Williams, apparently.
Right.
I mean, like.
But they play, I don't know whether it's the same thing, but they play like a different
volume of tennis, don't they?
Male and female tennis players.
It's totally different tactic, I think.
But even if you just look at the raw data, like look at the 100 metre times of the men
and the women, that's say you allow one of those men to assign themselves as a woman
and compete in the women female Olympics, is that fair on the female athletes who were
competing last year?
Well, there was a weightlifter, wasn't there?
The transition to the lower level.
Was it like cleaning jerks 130 in the like top-weight category,
which for a man is a
good jerk's high,
higher than higher than normal testosterone.
I thought was that that thing?
I was actually thinking of it.
I thought it was someone who I...
No, I've said the person called lower levels
was one of the big weight lifting things.
So I had a fairly lengthy discussion with Zubi about this. He was a guy who tweeted saying
People say there's no biological difference between men and women
watch me smash the
World women's deadlift record
PSI identified as a woman side so by doing this, don't be a bigger. And he pulled 230 sumo, and that is 40 kilos under his max, but 10 kilos over the
women's in that weight category, and the correct weight category.
The question that I haven't actually got around to speaking about, I spoke to Andrew
Doyle about this as well, is the other side of the debate, which is what do you do as a trans athlete?
Like if you're a man who's transitioned to be a woman and you're a boxer and you want to box
who the fuck do you box? So I remember Ben Tome was talking about this with someone saying that like
we just maybe need to use a different definition of male female. I don't know whether it's
basing it on chromosomes or basing it on something. Something that's not the way that we currently
define it. The problem is there's a lack of clarity between what male as XXXY definition
with, with homo and profile and gender expression or gender identity is, and then you're trying
to fit the square pegs and round holes that work for sport. And this is where the difficulty
lies. And 50% of the difficulty of when people are having these discussions is that people
play linguistic tricks. And they go, right, well, you said woman, do you not mean woman
or mat and you lie? people just want to get offended by it.
I keep over.
I want to have a discussion about how to navigate.
You try talking about it.
It's a difficult thing to get,
say the right things and express it in the right way.
It's even more difficult when people want to get offended.
They're just waiting for you to,
they've got to be fucking bigger.
You fucking transfer.
Especially when they have an opinion,
and if you express an opinion that isn't their opinion, you're immediately unfair.
No, maybe I just think it's something different to you.
So yeah, that's definitely one of the things.
But the question of like, do you then obviously it would be fairly prejudiced to segregate
trans across and say, right, okay, here's a male to female and a female to male category
that you can only go out.
I mean, that's going to be so wittled down that it's gonna be
a terrible sport to watch or be involved in,
because you're never gonna find someone
who's ever similarly capacity to you.
But it's fraught to try and continue to fit these things
into the existing setups.
Because it's just the house to be parameters for sport.
It doesn't sport if it's just anyone can do it
if the fuck they want. I know.
I know I weighed into the 105s at one point.
But I went into via Identify as 105.
Yeah.
Can I identify as a 74?
That would help me immensely.
I would.
Everything.
So it's like, there is a parameter that is set and so on because it's a number on a scale
and Wilkes and you know, the 100-re time, all these things are data points that cannot
be argued with but because this is still a parameter which affects the fairness of the
game that is being played but because there's an emotional aspect to it, it gets very tense
very quickly.
It's the Ben Shapiro question, right?
Why aren't you 60?
Yeah.
Why aren't you 60? Yeah. Why aren't you six? It's, yeah, well, because I'm not.
Yeah. Yeah. Is it to cheat us and he's like, are you a tree? No. Why not? Because you're not
a tree. Okay. Well, we're getting somewhere. Yeah, the terrible impression, but it should be there should be a role model is like a Are you 60 why aren't you 60 and the girl says well because there's there's there's
There's not there's a bit of a difference between what I am now and being 16
He says yes, there is but there is a much bigger difference between you being a woman and you being a man
And the problem with this is that because of how militant
Some active voices have been on the left on this issue,
what you will do is you will, like, just put in like, in volleyball, it's like that little
set up for the spike. Yep. And then someone like some mother fucker, like Peterson or Harris
or Shapiro is going to come in and they're going to eviscerate someone and make sure they're
silly. And then, and then what's going to happen is they're going to be accused of being insensitive,
which perhaps they've delivered in an insensitive way.
And then it's like, oh, no, and they go back and then it creates his gemitannis.
Well, yeah, and I think like, this is why I think like, I mean, I'm a clinician, I'm a scientist,
I'm not interested in really in the gender politics.
And it's like, okay, so if we want to, if it's a real question, it was actually interested
in, how do we judge sports?
Then it's like, right, what is the fundamental premise that we are saying here?
We're saying we have two divisions, men and women.
First of all, should we have two divisions split up like that?
That's the first question.
The next one is, is there a objective difference
between men and women? Is there a biological difference? And that point alone is still being
debated. Like, there's still people that believe that there is no biological difference between
men and women. And then it's just the way that they're socialized as children.
So, so then you're like, okay, well, I mean, that's that's fine if you want to believe that on your own, but then
do you have any problem taking testosterone for 30 years or do you have any problem like
competing in it?
Well, if you ask those people, okay, well, should we allow drugs and sports?
Like, is that a sign strong?
Was what he was doing?
Is that okay?
Well, it's fine because it wouldn't make a difference having testosterone or not because
it doesn't, there's no...
So I think because the fundamental premise isn't really clearly fleshed out, then
it means you can't move any further forward because it's like that, still have like calories in,
calories out is like gravity and if you're saying you don't believe in gravity, then I have no
interest in like getting in your plane or I'll butcher it, but you know what I mean, like there are
fundamental things that have to be like all right fine, fine. Gravity exists. It's blower. Let's talk about
fighting. Even with all of those things, right? And I said this to Andrew Doyle and to
Zubi as I, this whole trans athletes in sports thing is a fucking very highly charged
minefield. And I'm incredibly glad that I don't need to try and litigate it. Like, can
you imagine if you're the man who has to work out whether or not
transitioning athletes should be dick pound.
He'll be up there.
You'll be on the board as part of deciding.
Pounding.
Yeah, a difficult job.
A kind of adjacent question to this.
Toxic masculinity in quotation marks.
This is from Luke, toxic masculinity, who's
to blame more for its creation, men or women. So what is toxic masculinity? Doesn't exist
as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I'm not sure I'm clear on you.
But toxic masculinity is the overburdened, overression of typically masculine traits to a tyrannical or oppressive level, as
opposed.
So man's planing, man's spreading.
Everything with manchester.
Manchester.
Manchester.
Manuel.
Yeah.
Stephen manual.
Stephen manual.
As far as I like to know, his opinion on this.
As far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing as toxic masculinity. It's just people naming things. It's just people naming
character traits. You have people that are girly, girly guys and masculine guys. Toxic
masculinity to me is just the same as toxic femininity.
Do you think like, you know, the generations prior to us, like, you know, the generation
that dealt with that World War II, I just think, maybe I'm wrong,
but I imagine if you presented them
the sort of things that are being argued about now,
they'd just be upset.
There's a clip of George from mental models,
one or two, saying something like that,
of like something about being on the front line
in World War II, and then they're like,
Oh my Instagram, getting likes is okay.
Like I can't do that,
because I don't identify as a soldier. On the other side, on the other
side of that question, it's no use to any of us to judge the life that we have now with the lens
that we would have used 100 years ago. Like I'm not saying I don't know why I'm fucking bothered
about getting cancer, at least I didn't die of, die of the bribonic plague. Like, yeah, I need to, I need to refine the fidelity of my view for what
criteria I need my life and the life of those around me to be at as time progresses and
as life gets better. Like, yes, we are no longer a world war. Therefore, I can start to
look at things like what our attention device is doing to my brain.
As long as it's not, I feel like some of these things feel very much like they're making a problem.
They're like, if you so toxic searching for a problem.
Like yeah, like so being in a landing craft, about to arrive on,
landing craft about to arrive on, normally beaches, that is for no would argue that is a problem you're about to experience.
Serious.
But in the same way, cancer is a problem.
You can't argue that because cancer isn't the big on it plague, it's not as bad, it's
still a problem to deal with.
But if you are everything in your life is alright, but you decide that
actually toxic masculinity really offends you. So well, it does, it does it have to or are
you choosing for it to be the case? Like if people lie to themselves so effectively,
I think a lot of people would struggle to answer that. And especially if you then add
in availability bias and echo chambers and
yeah, if all you make to agree with you, then you can create yourself to believe anything that you want, right?
I suppose we all have to have something to focus on and think about.
So why not make it toxic masculinity?
Why not?
Why don't we all just get really upset about it about toxic masculinity?
And then there's a militia who we can do, which we can join.
And they are humble and grateful and they're independent.
Yeah.
It must be stopped.
There's two points here from my house mate,
who's upstairs.
Number one, best way to go about getting on the property
ladder or investing in property,
think this will be useful to a lot of people in me.
Let's try and do a really quick version of this.
Build up 35 grand. Build up 35 grand.
Purchase the property which has at least two bedrooms, ideally three if you can. Let the
other two. That's it. I'd invest in reats. What's that real estate investment trust?
Are they available in the UK? Yeah. So it's an investment vehicle that basically allows
you to get some of the gain, you probably know better than I vehicle that basically allows you to get some of the gain you probably know better than I do
It allows you to get some of the gain of property without actually earning property
Yeah, it's like a
aggregate of a property portfolio that you get to buy in like a certain amount into and because you don't then need discrete sums of 35 grand
Put you know deposit per thing you can get
Exposure to the return of the properties that the
reader is investing in without having to go all in.
Like a JV, you should say, this isn't financial advice.
This is not financial advice.
Yeah, this is just saying there is a vehicle.
This is what we are aware of.
What we might do, maybe.
Part two, thefts advice to zero jealousy.
Seth.
Seth, he's called you Seth, but I've changed it because he means Seth
Seth's advice to
Zero jealousy. I was awkward when you said Seth. Seth. Seth. You said what like Samuel?
fine
so
It was it was quite simple. I just well sat sat on a rock
release it for two hours and it was something that at the time for me was very
pertinent It was the front of my consciousness.
And I think when something's at the forefront,
if you dive into it, you realize it's like a bubble.
It's looks like it's really big and intimidating
and overbearing.
And you just penetrate to the center of it
and then it'll burst and you realize
there's no pain attached to it anymore.
And the triggers that would normally
have set that off just aren't there, they don't exist anymore. So, do you have any
suggestions of places for people to start? Like, to land? Journey, maybe? Yeah, I
listened to England. Where did you go? Yeah, it was in Finland. I'll remember it.
So there's a few resources to start with, but I've not read this, but this might be a more accessible one,
is a book called Radical Acceptance, because I think the methods that I use kind of
twisted into each other, and there's too much to trace back from, but literally just sitting
and like diving into the story, all of the physical sensations, all of the thoughts and beliefs around it,
diving into the story, all of the physical sensations, all of the thoughts and beliefs around it, and just keep diving into it until you're fully comfortable with it.
Because what you're probably doing is holding it away in some capacity.
And if that approach doesn't work, then the Byron Katie method that Johnny mentioned is very effective
for interpersonal griefs.
Just anything that happens.
Anything that happens.
Anything, basically anything in your life you can use that process for.
Ask four questions.
And that's how Gary Weber is a good guy to look into for this stuff because he
did this with just everything in his life.
And then yeah, and he like took byron K.E.
And the Dome of the Dome of the Yoga meditation all to 11 didn't need. like took byron K.E. and the Sedona yoga meditation all to 11 didn't you?
He took more than 11. Yeah, so and he's he's he's functionally changed his brain and it's been
replicated on FMR eyes like he's just got a permanent shift in the way that his brain works.
If you watch the Daniel Ingram interview with you surf, Daniel Ingram wants on Skype,
the YouTube video, you can just a tell, just watch the way that he
expresses himself.
He's fine about every...
Totally, like...
He's a hundred percent...
Give me a look into that camera and do it for me.
He's a...
He's a hundred percent present, completely emotionally neutral, bit happy.
Bit happy.
Bit happy.
There's like, it's tinge of...
This is fun.
But if it changed, it would be fun.
It wouldn't matter.
Yeah.
To watch the interview with Daniel Ingram.
Great.
We couldn't get Gary Webber on the podcast.
He's nearly declined.
Motherfucker.
Last one.
Where did the inspiration to do the podcast come from?
From Sean J.
I did Chris Fitt on the pro-Pimp Fitness podcast what like three years ago.
Two and a half years ago. Time ago. In our office, I really enjoyed the process,
love having discussions, decided that I wanted to do it more.
What was his first episode? This? It wasn't Stu Morton.
Oh, we're in the Atlantic. Number one, fuck.
Then Lifehacks 101 and 102 and number two and three when I started
Crossfit I went back and listened to the episodes of Jordan and episode four
For Tim. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting time ago. Thank you. I think it was once
But yeah, thank you very much for tuning in 100 episodes deep. I hope you enjoy keyu Chris
Thank you for doing 100 episodes of modern wisdom three questions
Great questions. We'll do another Q&A if you want doing 100 episodes of Modern Muslim. Great questions. Great questions.
Really good question.
We'll do another Q&A if you want.
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We've got Chelsea Ferguson, the girl that owns
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was going to be a thing, 2019.
We're going to do more business principles, more life hacks will be coming, and Fugnos,
we've got another hundred episodes to get to before we have to think about something
cool to do for episode 200.
I think by like episode 300, Q&A is just going to be links to the podcast.
Doesn't matter what anyone asks, it'll just be episode 13, 29, 124, and we'll just have all that.
In fact, that should be the mission to be absolutely indexed.
So if you're in a, indexed your knowledge into podcasts so effectively. No human can come up with a question that hasn't already been answered.
And then someone left it like, you know, the IBM Watson, like make a new one of them to ask
us a question.
Like, like, to create new prime numbers or, yeah.
Like a Bitcoin magnet to find the next possible question.
Yeah.
Then we'll just make a new podcast.
And then we're all done.
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