Modern Wisdom - #100 - Episode 100 Special Edition Q&A

Episode Date: September 5, 2019

Jonny & Yusef join me for a special edition Q&A to celebrate 100 episodes of Modern Wisdom. Expect to learn... everything that the internet wanted to know. Plus enjoy an exclusive clip from the Pilot ...Episode of Modern Wisdom back in 2017. Thank you to everyone who tunes in, your continued support is hugely appreciated. Big love x Extra Stuff: Check out everything I recommend from books to products and help support the podcast at no extra cost to you by shopping through this link - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi friends, welcome to episode 100. Can you believe it? A full century of episodes done? I'm only just getting started. Today it is a special edition Q&A episode. Myself, Johnny and Yusuf sitting down in my living room to do nearly two hours of questions that we've received on the internet, avoiding some that we just didn't fancy speaking about and going down rabbit holes with a lot of others. Also, you get to hear the long-awaited why did you, if once, have a lemon ball story from a pilot episode we recorded nearly two years ago that never got aired. So, in the same way as DVD extras and Easter eggs and stuff
Starting point is 00:00:42 have little treats for you, episode 100's got a lemon testicle shaped treat as well. Thank you so much for tuning in, I massively appreciate all of your support. I've said it all along that I honestly would do this podcast even if no one tuned in. The opportunity to speak to the people that I get to share time or bandwidth with is pretty priceless. But the fact that hundreds of thousands of you continue to tune in every single month makes it even more meaningful.
Starting point is 00:01:12 So yeah, thank you very much. Enjoy the Lemon Ball story and roll on the next 100 episodes. Lots of love. Lots of love! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back! It's episode 100! Woooow! Woooow! Uh, we've done a hundred episodes in modern wisdom.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Eee! Really well. You shit the bed. I don't feel like it. I know. It's because you've just suddenly gone twice a week. Yeah, yeah, I know. But anyway, thank you very much to everyone who's tuned in over the last 100 episodes.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Do you remember the day we did the first podcast with you and we had the preamble of making the coffee and the coffee was too strong. That was for the propane, right? Yeah. Yeah. That was our interview with you and then Locked customers. Locked in my crisfit. Chris fit. Chris fit it was. Yeah, exactly. 16 million, listen, minutes later and we're here. Here we are. So we've got a couple of special treats for you today. We're going to do Q&A. We asked for questions from people on the internet, Instagram have come up with some pretty good ones. Also, before I started this podcast as the name that it was, we did... It comes the hot potato.
Starting point is 00:02:41 We did a pilot episode and originally it was called Mind and Matter. A bit of a shite name, I know. Mind and Matter and we did a pilot episode on purpose and meaning. As a part of that, Yusuf told us a story about when his testicle grew to the size of the lemon because he got a hydrosale and then he tried to pop it in the shower and then he had a number of other complications and I've been asked a lot because I keep referencing it. I've been asked to put this story in. So you're going to get to hear it. We've got the footage. Right now.
Starting point is 00:03:18 But, beep! Right now. Fine. I'm going to give you the full Monty. This is... This is a podcast about purpose and we're gonna spend the first five minutes talking about my ball, my request. Balls on demand.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Balls on demand, bod. Right, so... One day I was coming out the shower, my flatmate saw my ball and said, you said, that's really big, you need to do something about it. I said, no it's fine, it's always been like that. Chris is using water out of his mouth. What was the first, like the first time you're like drawing yourself off and you look to the mirror and you're like, hmm. It's very gradual and because the male denial
Starting point is 00:04:07 of health issues runs so deep, you end up just ignoring things you are a doctor. I am now, I wasn't then, so I was even more averse. And yeah, now it would be very different, I think, I would go after like when it got to half the size really before the full lemon. So your twice is your twiceest sensitive to lemon ball no. Yeah exactly my threshold. Well I know you have a lemon ball you know what it would look exactly. So the reason it's lemon ball is because it was the size of
Starting point is 00:04:37 a lemon and I'd throughout that process it was normal to begin with and it gradually got bigger until there was this mismatch and you you end up justifying to yourself, like, oh, there's always been a slight difference in size or whatever. And then it has to take someone else to say, no, no, come on. You said it's three times a week. No, no, no. So when to the GP, they have a feel and they tell you, oh, it appears to be quite enlarged and you're like, yep, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I'll just refer you to the radiologist, radiologist, get some gel on it, calculates the volume for 20 minutes to tell you that it's big. You're like, okay, I wonder why you needed to ultrason that. It's not normal, that is. Oh, that's a bit big. So, so not in the room. Very, yep. It's enlarged. If anyone's ever had a ball ultrasound or if you have one coming up, something that they do is the nurse will come in, tell you to drop your pants to your knees, leave, and then she'll come back and say, oh, I've got this tissue to cover your penis for decency.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Because of course that's the important thing. Five times we hear this story? Four or five? It's little gems, and he leans out. That's what I might have to do. Don't half-ass it. If you're going to do it, do it properly. I'm quite glad that you're happy to hear this again,
Starting point is 00:05:56 because I feel like most people get... If you release that, it was just a story I'd buy. So they cover your penis for decency of course because that's the thing that's top on your mind. Do they like sausage roll it or how do they just drape? So then you start there with just testicles exposed. I realise like I'm trying to do this as like a public relations message to encourage men who have any kind of testicular problems to go out and seek help but it's probably not really advertising it very well. You essentially have a test.
Starting point is 00:06:27 It was the dress you'd dig up like Casper. The tissue as well would have been penis and then ball, ball, run, yeah. It was. So it's like it just really highlights the fact that you have one one left. Exactly. So, ultrasound, past a few different people, eventually to the urologist, this is the guy who's gonna operate. Big Nigerian man, starts examining me and then walks over to the light without explaining what he's doing, turns it off and comes back with a torch, and shines a light through the ball, and it lights up like a Christmas light. He looks really happy and says, you see this? It means it's not the cancer.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You're like, oh great, okay, so he's really pleased about it. Later on found out that's called a Transalumination to check for any kind of cancer. So that's good news if it lights up. By this point it was getting pretty big. Like the size of a, like a little steroidal lemon. Like a mango. Mango, it was small mango, yeah. And it was, it gets to the point where everything else like rests on it.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Starting to come right horizontally. And like you couldn't hide it in work trousers. I did a competition in a in a singleist and obviously setting up for bench whoever filmed me chose to use the angle like straight up towards it and I had to cover it down the pipe. I had to cover it up with a text box on the video. And Johnny just said bench. I got a message from Johnny the next day saying like great video but why is the text box so big? I said you too. To the card emoji of a lemon.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah, that would have been good. Okay, matter. Very much. So at that point, been referred for surgery, watch the procedure on YouTube the night before and started to get the fear so I went into the shower and tried to burst it myself and this is where we turn the lemon into a bean so it reshaped the lemon into more of a bean shape. She forced.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Through force, yeah. So did you, for that to happen, was it an initial, like a short shot? Like, no, it was it. So you slowly applied depression. Was it in that position? It was your hands clasped and like interlocked to get more purchase on it. It's just as well that you're not practised in jujitsu. You'll be really good at it. So, had the surgery. You, Johnny, are you trying to imagine it in different ways that you'd be able to squeeze up? I'm thinking how I would do it. And then thinking about the amount of pressure. So, how the surgery, you, Johnny, you try to imagine it about different ways that you'd be able to squeeze up. I'm thinking how I would do it,
Starting point is 00:09:06 and then thinking about the amount of pressure that you've interlaced your fingers. Well, because that, I think. So, you've interlaced your fingers, you can't do that. I mean, you could really bear down on it. I'm gonna apply it, apply it a fair bit of pressure, though. I mean, you yourself limited, obviously, like. Because really, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:22 How the surgery is normal, Paul. I think slightly, yeah, it may be slightly more because there's a lot more pressure around. When you went in, did they say that's not the shape it was last time, was it? No, why is it being? They didn't notice. But when in for surgery, if you've ever been
Starting point is 00:09:39 for surgery as well, they draw a big like, big L or a big R and an arrow, pointing to the side that needs operated on. If it's if they do surgery or anything that has two, so kidney, legs, whatever. Yeah. Which does feel silly if you have like a really obvious deformity, but anyway, work up from the surgery on oxycodone, very powerful opiate that makes you quite devious and talking nonsense to the nurses. Coming to the consultant came up and said, okay, so you need to avoid sexual activity for at least a few days, you're like, okay, great, because I was going to just go home and try it out.
Starting point is 00:10:23 But I think that that was sarcasm. You definitely do not want to wake up like in this kind of bloody juxtap and it's very painful and bleeding. So, but I guess they have to tell people that because people try. They, one of the consultants who installed a colostomy bag on someone, which is like an anus on the front of your abdomen,
Starting point is 00:10:46 basically like a re-routing your intestine, had to advise the patient postoperatively not to have sex through the hole. Oh my god. And this is clearly because some patient in the past will have tried and complicated things. Like, I think complicated is a really under-directed the direct like if somebody tries to have sex with a small, fleshy, amused type hole in you then your side I imagine created by Martin Scalpel
Starting point is 00:11:17 is that is it just a little incision? yeah they just take a bit of bowel and move it up superficially to face someone's just reading around terrible so that's the story I'll give it this there's aftermath isn't it? should we say if you have to have to have for part two? yeah maybe because this is already going to's already... It can be being chronicled. The chronicles of? Puppet ball.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Puppet ball, yeah. Puppet ball, Puppet ball. All we've talked about is testicles suffer. At the end of the day, the moral of the story is, if you have a problem like this, it's only gonna get worse until you seek medical help. So seek medical help with purpose? Purpose, don't try and pop it yourself.
Starting point is 00:12:03 See the GP, don't be a barista about it. It's a typical male thing to not do that. I was lucky. It was a lemon ball, but it could be a nasty ball. So, and if it is a nasty ball, that can be fatal. So feel your ball, go and see the GP. And we're back. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Oh. You know, there's a really awesome message to that story, which is that men are often afraid to go to the doctor for things out of maybe caught sociocultural reasons, but that is proof that you shouldn't be doing to don't just squeeze your own testicle. Don't try and pop it, just go and see. Just go and see a professional.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And they'll squeeze it for me. They will squeeze it for you. So I hope you enjoyed that story. It was unbelievable. The rest of that episode, by the way, was total shit. But that 10 minute period was gone. I thought it was great. We prepared those notes.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It was only bad because of the audio quality and the tapping and you get a clicky, immense pomo when there's a piece of content that's created. And it's really prepared. It's hard for that though. It's like life fails that was just lost in the ether. Oh, all the stuff in the head fail. Oh, stories you gave. Oh, I know. They gone, man, for every thing. They already did. So, thank you. Massive, thank you to everyone who's tuned in, 100 episodes. We are 60 million listen minutes, several thousand subscribers,
Starting point is 00:13:25 all that sort of stuff. And we've got some cool questions, so we're going to do some questions. Do you want to do one of yours first? Yeah. I mean, this is very, like, you know, my first question. But, you know, questions for dummies, now I don't mean that. Do you have any favorite novels? Well, first, first part of the question as well. Are we doing that? Kind of, Chris M Hunt, why am I just going to take the piss out of this question? It's a great question, Chris. Do you have any favourite novels? And then also, do you see any value in reading for pleasure?
Starting point is 00:14:00 Both of these things have been discussed with Chris Sparks, spoken about this the day, Productivity Coach, because this is episode 100, and I'm starting to back up, that's almost definitely going to be coming after this. So either in the past or the future, listen now for me talking about that. Well, everything's either in the past or the future. Part of now, which is right now and now.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But not that, but now. Now. So 1984, George Orwell, like really good, easy read. A lot of implications that you can, if you're a bit of a self-development, sort of buff that you can take and apply to your own life. The Alchemist, Paolo Quaylor, great novel, second part. Do you see any value in reading for pleasure?
Starting point is 00:14:44 Absolutely, yeah. I think that I've learned, and 1984 taught me a lot more and a lot of those conclusions have had bigger impacts on my life than reading a lot of self-help and productivity books. As Chris Sparks said it, 90% of self-help and productivity books are a 20-page blog post with 190 pages of example. So there's often say one idea in the world, like one meaningful concept and then the rest of it's just fluff, which is why like book summary services for those kind of books can be really good. But then you don't have the time and attention, you don't have any context. Well then the one thing thing how the whole thus meeting
Starting point is 00:15:26 Because it's like if I said to you just just concentrate when you're working That's deep work is basically the whole thing. It's when you work. It's true. What about you novels? I know that you're not massive I don't so I'm starting to do it more. I don't do it very much. I used to read quite a bit for pleasure when I was younger I read like the Harry Potter books. I read like the Philip Pullman stuff. They were good. Yeah, being on my Amazon, his dark materials. Really? Sorry Netflix, bringing out the full thing. I'm looking forward to that, definitely. Amazing, man. Yeah, because they absolutely butchered Northern Lights. There was an old film of Northern Lights and it was, yeah, horrendous.
Starting point is 00:16:02 What are you man? Northern Lights and it was yeah horrendous. So Albert Kamu, the stranger, written by someone whose mum was deaf and he was brought up in a, you know, kind of like really weird like silent environment and you can you can feel that in his writing. 1984, very good, brave new world and what was the other one? I forgot the other one. Deep work, why can't you? Deep work, why can't you? I think I watch films more than what's okay. Needful things by Stephen King. Why did you? Why did I say films? So sorry to interrupt. No, it's okay. Just because. It was one of the best books that I've read, but the film is one of the worst films that I've seen. And so I think they just, because there was
Starting point is 00:16:50 a lot of subtext in the book and then they managed to just wreck it. Yeah, what a shame. I like the club. Great book, great film. Apparently the big short book, I've just heard this. Right, it's fantastic. Really? That's the sort of thing that I love something. Yeah, great fun. Great fun. We get in good. We go at the cinema. So people read for pleasure often to like, you know, moving to another world. I go at the cinema for two hours.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Transported. Kind of. Karl Kiefer, you have to sit more. I spoke to someone the other day who went on a, I was mic'ded a 4D cinema experience. I got a few of those in my mind. They spray with water and they're like a sea vibrates and awful. I don't like that. I just like to be left alone to just enjoy it with the vibraphry parcels.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Said he was soaked by the end of it. Yeah, we'll see. Smelly water as well. I'll see that you can go as a team. Dan's out washing. Dan's out. Dan's out. Good guy.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Right. Sean J. What is a life hack? You couldn't go without since introducing it. So you need to pick one that you've heard or you've brought up on a life hacks and you haven't sort of stopped since you've heard. And that one. I don't know what you're going to say.
Starting point is 00:18:04 What are you going to say? Minus flip between physical and digital. What's he going to say? What do you think he'll say? Alfred. Oh God. Oh, you're not going to say Alfred. But that actually tops it. If I had to pick what I was going to say and Alfred, I'll have to pick out. So if I just outlipacked your own life, what was your original one? Shot down for. Oh, the bum spray. Yeah, I try not to put, but I'm not at home now because it's just you hold it in. Well, the bum's broke. Oh, the bum's broke. Yeah, I try not to poo, well, I'm not at home now, because it's just, you hold it in. Well, you shouldn't, but it makes the experience so much better.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Which I mean, you shouldn't. You shouldn't hold in poo longer than you should, longer than you have to. But no one ever holds in poo longer than they have to. I think they do, because otherwise, you would just poo in the room. It's not longer than they have to. Longer than they would like to but yeah
Starting point is 00:18:47 If you really like feeling full I bet there are people that like if you're really hungry and you like to see like well like a pool Who is what about you, man? What you think you don't know what about a couple any come to mind? I tell you what's interesting, Sean. Great question. One of the things that we find is that the little cycles that we go through is like a natural evolution of life hacks, and over time some will remain and many will be discarded. So a lot of them, I almost need to go back and caveat like 101 and 102 and 103. I no longer do runward.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It's not good for my spine, given my current spine health. I did a Woot Band review that now I'm not doing that and now I'm considering getting the three. Like so I've been in, gone out and then come back again. You get the flip side as well where the sun that is so standard in your life now that you forget that they're even in the car. What am I car? So true. so standard in your life now that you forget that there are even a lot of car, so true to control. Probably the life hack then, like the master hack is to just be constantly
Starting point is 00:19:50 iterating an experiment. Because like all of us, the reason for life hacks is like we're all trying something new every time we speak. Every time we take my life, you're like how can you change something? Yeah. So air pods are probably there up there. Fairly ubiquitous in my life. Yeah. Like things like Wi-Fi scales and, you know, like stuff we've mentioned that I don't, it's just part of my day.
Starting point is 00:20:16 That's the thing. It's when the ones that, what is a life hack you couldn't go without since introducing it. It's the ones that integrate the most seamlessly with your life. That's why you're like Alfred. That's why we mean you like Airpods. For me, the best one, the one that has given me the highest return, single highest return from one life hack, sleeping with my phone outside of my room. If you put your phone outside of your room before you go to bed or if you have a bedroom ban on your phone. It is the downstream from that. It's the same as getting a dog, happiness,
Starting point is 00:20:46 walks, trash out, like downstream, all the implications are great. So yeah, phone outside of the room. Johnny still doesn't do that. I mean, need to get in a lot of work. So this is just based on recently the Byron Katie book, the Byronady process, I think that was a life hack. Really? Yeah. Just like lately been using it for, I think if you're able, I'm not so convinced now that it's like having this deep sort of like rewiring effect, but it just allows you to take something that, like when you wake up in the morning, you're like really pissed off about it, and you just reframe it, see it differently, and use it to your advantage.
Starting point is 00:21:24 The process which works for you. Exactly. And I think if you can take a bad thing, you're like, well it, you just reframe it, see it differently, and use it to your advantage. The process which works for you. Exactly. And if you can take a bad thing, you're like, well, I'm just going to do this about it, then it's a great thing to have. It's also great, because it eliminates boredom forever. If you're starting to really, you're going for 10 hours, you can be like, buying and courting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:39 The end of the 10 hours, you just feel amazing. Yeah. Casper, it's my, it's our go at Christmas. Excuse me. Excuse me. Sorry. Unbelievable. Yeah. Casper. It's my, it's our gochis. Excuse me. Excuse me. Sorry. Unbelievable. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Emma Haymes PT, who I think wanted to date with you, actually. I've probably shouldn't have said that. That's your answer, Chris. Well, time to have another video. Would you rather have to tell everyone around you that you need to fart or pee your pants and then she submitted any second question ellipsis every day So, so would you rather have to tell everyone around you that you need to fart so every time you fart you're like every part or Every time you pee you pee your pants
Starting point is 00:22:21 It's a fucking ugly thought one like or else you're just pissing your pants all the time. It's to it's that there's no way there's a big asymmetry. It's cut dry there, isn't it? Yeah, I suppose it depends on if you need to fart. It's like every time you even get the hint of a feeling, you have to fart. I don't have the hint of a fart much. Like mine are...
Starting point is 00:22:39 They just fall out. I don't know if false alarms are at all. You must have situations in the eye for what you think I shouldn't fart here. Well, the only time I think I shouldn't fart is when I think I might shard. But you must be in the social setting. Well, you like I shouldn't fart here. You fart me fart. I know. Lots. You know what, you've been in long car journeys with you and you've been very,
Starting point is 00:22:58 instead of very good. That's because of the seating position. So it's not, it's the unkind threat. It's not, it's not out of courtesy. No, not okay. Casper Sorensen, how much to Johnny and Yusuf really bench? I love that he's got Soren in his name. It's kind of the sum of the letters. So what do you what's your all time PB not? 162.5. Was it in a comp? No, he said not to comp. Yeah, was it in a comp? No, no. So just in the gym. Yeah, peaking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:32 This was before this was in the buildup, but prior to me going right and some part of the thing. You got 172 in Gold Star. It was very no, it wasn't in Gold Star. It was in David Lloyd and we cannot have called it a bench press. Okay. So like dodgy plates, like bench height is questionable and it was like crashing on my sternum. So because it wasn't I feel legal, Johnny is not counting it, but I would say purity, man. You've got a lot of these still of the spot. I think you have, it's like, well, I mean, there's infinite examples. If you see my side versus the world. Yes. Thoughts? Love just Louis Simmons, my poor guy.
Starting point is 00:24:06 You know, Louis Simmons has never done a podcast. Yeah. And I'm trying to. He's not on Rogan. I think he's on Rogan. Yeah. But I think he's pretty hard to get a hold of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I'm trying to get Brian Carles. At the start of the West I versus the world, it says like, this was not Louis' idea. And then they just kept, I've seen him, you know, the barbell shrugged guys. I've seen him, you know, the barbell shrug guys. I've seen him take the barbell shrug guys I'm struggling with my clean. And Louis is just like bands. So it gets the barbell shrug guys to do a banded power clean. And like obviously you do the pull and it just crashes out. It's like move faster. And
Starting point is 00:24:40 he just gets the guy to banded power cleans then he brings it clean. Lately, Simmons is a boy. Seth, best bench press. 150. That was in pinnacle. Yeah. Was it? Yeah. Well, we went in and reared everyone's day.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Because there was a leader board and we just, yeah, just turned off the talk. Took everything in all genders and all weight categories. Yeah. I don't find us everything when we're in the... How much do you bench? Someone asks us that recently. Who asked us that?
Starting point is 00:25:07 Do you remember that? Yeah, someone else. My old time PB's 140, but I don't train bench. That'll be close grip. Close grip. Close grip. Flat back. Feet on the bench. All of those things. No, no, no. For eight reps, just fine.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Because he never went below eight. You got him? Um, God, this, but Jetta Moon has, has hammered the questions. I've got a lot of them. I hear Jetta Moon. What's something you think every person should experience in their lifetime? Err, err, err. Err, be on a podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Be on a podcast. I think that that's a really good answer. I think that at some point in your life, especially now, a lot of distraction, a lot of time spent double-screening, triple-screening, watching TV being distracted, not having deep conversations. It is like doing these podcasts and having these discussions with whoever it is now even people I got not that much like Brian Carroll is a 300 and something pound power lifter from Florida And the only thing I have in common is we've both been seen by the same back specialist and And now and a half talking to him just flew by and I loved it and he I'm gonna go see and I'm gonna go chill with him and you like The opportunity I believe you're going to go and chill with him and you're like the opportunity. I believe you're going to go and chill with Brian Carles. I've got to take
Starting point is 00:26:28 tape on him a couple of weeks. He will be an interesting guy. I've got a way to get questions from Andrew Doyle. sat down with Andrew Doyle this Sunday, went out for him in Edinburgh last night after he's show at the French had drinks and then. Like Yonapodcast. He's on the podcast indeed. So be on the podcast indeed. Yeah. So, so be on a podcast. Be on a podcast. Just have the opportunity or, if not, sit down with someone for one hour, both phones outside of the room and have a discussion about something that you think will interest
Starting point is 00:26:55 you. So like fake a podcast, I just think having deep conversations with people, you both leave everyone that's a part of them leaves the room better than when you want it. That's my. You can do a podcast about whatever you're interested in and just put it on iTunes. There's the costs, minimums, isn't it? Is it really well-known? You can't even tell the fucking prick. Tell that story. We'll have to tell that story. It will at some point. Not on this one.
Starting point is 00:27:25 We'll do it when I know. But yeah, right. Don't ever say to yourself that you can't do a podcast, because cost is the reason especially when you are part of a radio station. And the content is made and it's been edited and mastered. And you're just thinking of a way to repurpose it. Right. What's something that everyone should experience?
Starting point is 00:27:46 A Widowmaker experience. So that doesn't have to be a Widowmaker, which is... So, seriously, this is exactly what I was going to say. The Squats... Squat Widowmaker. Well, so it's one option. It's exactly what I was going to say, really. Unbelievable. So, I've got my... Sorry, man.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So, a Widowmaker is a set of squats with your 10 rep marks and you do 20. And obviously by definition you think, well that's not possible but it is possible, it just takes 10 minutes to do. So you have the bar on your back, you do 10, you're done, you keep the bar on your back, you take 5 to 10 deep breaths, you go again, 5 to 10 deep breaths, you go again until you hit 20, you start to go death, you have ringing in your ears, Facebook, yeah, like everything just shuts out in like all your cares drop away, and the whole being is just like, I hate this. Other ways to experience it, 10 minute ice bath,
Starting point is 00:28:41 high dose psychedelics, if that's what you're into. 2K Max Row. 2K Max Row. A 10-day meditation retreat, like anything that... There are quite different versions of that. I think the Widow Make is very... It's the shortest way to calm. You can't visceral get away from it. 2K Max Row. Max F2K Row.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Definitely. The guys at... Jim Jones, the guys who trained all the 300 actors, they call the 2K row, like the test. A horrible distance. Because it's way round up. Seven people. Well, do we know the story about the selfie? You're one. Yeah, we did. It was that first 2K row. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Johnny, what's yours? I mean, that was going to be it. So I think the thing that a lot of people don't experience, I think everyone should is experiencing a high end or the end of your physical capability. I experienced the line where your mind is like shouting, eat a stop. I think as well, what you've identified with the Widowmaker is that because the way the programming's done,
Starting point is 00:29:42 like we've always said this about powerlifting. If you can't lift the weight, you can't lift the weight, it doesn't go up, there's no struggle. Whereas if you've ever watched one of those videos where boxes run out of gas and then they kind of collapse to the floor, it's like, how much do you have to be to not be able to throw another punch? Yeah. It's the weight of your arm, not even going against gravity. Just extending your arm out, yeah, exactly. So it's the weight of your arm not even going against gravity Death like 1000 cuts is just extending your arm out. Yeah, exactly. So it's the thing. I've always admired like I always admired I've always admired Lee athletes have always admired like special forces and it's not physical prowess It's like being able to be able to the ability to just tolerate as a Goggins that was Like a runner. It's David Goggins. Yeah, so it's Davidgins. The one who broke his feet and was still going to get hurt.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah, yeah. Just like frightening people, terrifying people, who are able to do that? Oh, wow, this is a fucking belltor of a question. Paul Ogren, if you were to give your student self, we'll call this first student, like, fresher, 18. If you were to give your student self a life hack, what would it be? Fuck when I think about how different my life set up is now to when I was 18 jeez
Starting point is 00:30:56 Because when I was 18 phones weren't a problem. So wouldn't need to know about that stuff Thing is no Pomodoro's would be good for know, I know, know, I I just love that. Of all the things. It's like I just should have done more days where I just did five by five. You're not wrong. Like you, you're off like three one. Yeah. So five, I think like sitting down and explaining to my 18 year old self, just like nutrition and drinking. We did so many stupid diet. Well, so I suppose that alone would have saved me Out hundreds of hours probably of my degree and pounds of wasted money
Starting point is 00:31:50 I don't like surge work out for the Anaconda protocol Indigo 3G There's a little plenty of people. Everyone's only to go through you Is it game changer? What about you, Seth? One thing to heaven out and then you wouldn't have lost your journal of like a decade Oh, yeah. Well, so I wrote a journal for a daily journal for a decade, and then one day my Microsoft word file corrupted. And then what did you write?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Well, that's the end of my journaling, then. I just thought, well, there's no point in continuing. I just, just, just, didn't even say it was like the most autistic, like, yeah, identification of the day. Yeah, it was like, went here, met this person, eight fish. I think I'm stuck on that card. So it wouldn't have been interesting, well, it probably wouldn't have been. When you scroll back over, you're like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:43 like, you know, the most, there's so many mundane days in your life that just takes you for it. Just the minutiae. Yeah. What about you, Johnny? Oh, sorry. Would it be ever known? Ever know was good. Deep work, a deep work habit if the book existed.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Five, three, one. Very similar. It's like a rep scheme. But I think for me, it would be just raising my standards because I, in my first degree, thought that I was like some big hot shot, like doing really well, but looking back, like it was a degree that, like if you didn't get a first in it, you would dig. So, and then the second one made me realize that how much slack there was in the system and actually what I could have done is done two degrees at the same time. I wanted a dependent one private one, one university
Starting point is 00:33:28 one or like learned another language, read loads of books, like started up in another business, like something. So yeah, Johnny, I think either sort of incentivizing myself to like go down the path of seeking alternative education earlier. So I think like I stumbled into like, is the trade at 18? Well, yeah, I mean stuff like that. You know, the stuff that you start into the self-development world and read books and listen to different people and get different views that are different from your friends and different from what your parents are taught in different from school. I think the earlier you get that the better your life decisions are. But I don't know, I don't think it's not a life hack necessarily, but I think like just start learning from places that aren't you.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I got you. That would have been one of those. You got one, Johnny? You got one good one. What personality trait has gotten you the most trouble? Trouble? Hmm. Fssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss probably neurotic probably neuroticism or industries Scott, I just said left over her press neuroticism, snatch neuroticism or so this is caused the most problems for me is somewhere between neuroticism and industriousness
Starting point is 00:34:52 just that I can't I can't bear not to be working and doing things like and it's getting I'm controlling it better but the industriousness is getting worse I'm able to now operate with less rest, like less downtime. I'm able to do that previously. It might be a five day week, but now I can probably get away with maybe a seven day week before I need to take an afternoon.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And then, you know, over time, that will become like a 10 day week before I need to take an afternoon. So the problem with that is that back in the day, my neuroticism caused me to shortcut success as the indicator for my success and just allowed I was forced to use the suffering associated with the task as my indicator of I've done good. So if I worked a club night and went home and was fucked, I would think yeah, you've worked hard. went home and was fucked, I would think yeah you've worked hard, irrelevant, regardless of the success of the event, whereas I could go and have one where the event performed really well, but it hadn't suffered. I was like, you're talking lazy bastards.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It's hard to be, to feel like you're moving in the right direction. Even if it's not successful, and then if it's not so, so you need to succeed on two different pathways, and one of which is not associated with success at all. So yeah, that's kind of the one that's got me in the most trouble. It's also got me in most trouble with friends, girlfriends, all that sort of stuff. Why are you working again this evening?
Starting point is 00:36:16 Why are you doing this? It means that you don't have to wear a person who wants to work as much as we do. And it's fortunate that we are around each other, like fucking deans the same, Jordan, George, you know, a lot of people that we sort of come across. I wonder how much of the fact that we're friends is just just desperately not feeling quite
Starting point is 00:36:35 as we are normal. Yeah, well what about you, Seth? That's a very good answer, similar. For me, it's my overhead press, like it's always been slow to progress. And then mind to the stick, it's my overhead press. It's always been slow to progress. My system's stuck where it's always been. Agreeableness as well. I mean, it's the origin of the problem that I have. That's a potential problem.
Starting point is 00:36:53 To real. I think so. But neuroticism as well, I think yours has got to be a scurvy problem. Well, yeah, which comes about from... agreeableness and is it agreeable? Is it not save money, not rock the boat? So that wasn't the... So not rock the boat is agreeable. That's the boat, yeah. And then save money. You're obviously.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I'm less bothered about saving money these days. Right, you are getting better. Not because I'm not... If you see valuables, you just buy it, don't you? Yeah, I just like it's your threshold for seeing valuables. But that is also both of your influence. We pull you out with them. Yeah. What about you, Jenny? Because this is interesting for you. The probably the biggest one for me is boundaries. And what I mean by that is, I will, so similar to you I suppose, like I would love to be able to shut my laptop at 4 o'clock and go train and forget about work for us today, but no matter how many
Starting point is 00:37:55 times I tell myself to do that, I can't. So I need, I need to force boundaries on myself, but that also leads to me being like I'm late for stuff, or I'll procrastinate with things sometimes and do them right the last minute. It was really bad without you, like I would do all my projects right the last minute. As well, like the developer of Frozen Turkey, like it's got into our heads and nose that. I think everyone does it. Like everyone procrastinates on something.
Starting point is 00:38:18 It's just that I, partly, I suppose, I hold myself to a really high standard with everything, which is stupid. And I don't allow myself any leeway for just being human being. Yes, that's something that I think you're very good at. And I know Sam Bevan's talking about rewiring your brain to look for the most difficult thing of the day and just be here, isn't it? Is, let's say you've got 10 minutes before you have to go out.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I'd be like, oh, that's not quite long enough to do like a live video or whatever, whereas you'll be like, what should I do? That poll, that execute versus strategist things are a big deal, like which I'm, I haven't completed. Right, I got, sorry, I'm really good with executing that, but like, put a load of washing in, I'll be crossing it out. Weird, like, this, cause there's no water attached to it, right?
Starting point is 00:39:06 Like if it's like, it's kind of funny. Johnny Solve is really complex, well I'm fucking bringing it on my eye. And I sit and do it for three hours. Johnny did the dishes. But if it's like Johnny, like unloaded the dishwasher. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Alex. Why don't we do a couple of quickfire ones and then we got a really, really good meaty one. I mean, what are Johnny's most and least favorite crossfit movements, except squats and deadlifts? At least favourite is running in burpees. Okay, so the way it's separated is if I have to move something while being stationary, really enjoy it, if I have to move myself, I don't enjoy it
Starting point is 00:39:39 typically. So pull ups, I find hard, toes to bar bar hard, burpees hard, running extremely hard, running should just be removed from CrossFit entirely. If it's like rowing, echo bike, anything with the barbell, anything with the dumbbell, bring it on out of the laugh. What about dumbbell box stepovers? You've done those, yeah? Box stepovers, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:57 So 222 and a half, so in either, in either hand, just step over the box. Don't need to step up at the top, just get over it. It is the most gluity thing you've ever done in daylight. Devils are pretty bad. Devils are so mean. No, you can do it however.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You can do it however. Most people go straight on and then twist and turn. They're actually thrusters ahead. Anything's front rack. Is there a lack of air inducing on there? Another quick one. Fitness Ames for 2020. RX the open.
Starting point is 00:40:23 RX the open, yeah. That's a fucking great aim, you know. Like just as something I wanna be able to get all of the fundamental movements, and I wanna, you know, place. I heard, see, remember I went to see Adam Middleton. So he spoke about, like, you have a flame inside you, which is like you're like enthusiasm for things. And he's like, everybody gets to a point in their life where the flame starts to, this
Starting point is 00:40:49 is a really long-winded thing. Flame starts to flicker out and die. And he's like, what you've got to do at that point is reignite the flame. And as he said that, Becca looked at me and went, that's what you would do, isn't it? And I was like, I've never thought about it before, but at that time, I'd just signed up, I just don done six months across the, and I could feel the flame flickering, whatever, fitness in general, like nutrition, couldn't give a shit, training, boring, mobility, don't care. Whereas now I switched, and suddenly,
Starting point is 00:41:16 like, I love training again. And like, it doesn't matter that it, what would you think you two years ago? I told myself that. So I think that I really want to do like a long content piece on this, because I think two things are annoying. One is, I don't think CrossFit is what everyone wants it to be. I think it's a sport. I think it's a great way of expressing, like holding your fitness into something. But I think there are other attributes that you should be focusing on as well
Starting point is 00:41:46 in other ways of training, that are sensible, that ideally feed in across it. But also people who just relentlessly criticize things in the fitness industry, having never tried them. Like we say it all the time, like keto shit, like, if you ever try keto, like, how long do you don't keep it for? Oh, you don't try how convenient that, uh, period of shape, how long you don't pay for. Like. Like we have thrown out, like we lay on the train tracks and like is the train gonna kill me? I don't know, we'll find out.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Like, because I just, people, like lay in across it and we used to do it and then I was like, well, we can't keep doing this. And because you try to get one class. I don't see two classes. Both vomit and two same. People in the gym still remember that, yeah. Oh really Tim, Tim Briggs still talks about it to this day. Two glasses. Both vomit and two same. People in the gym still remember that, yeah. Oh, really Tim.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Tim Riggs still talks about it to this day. Oh, no. Well, that's perpetuated by the fact that you're always on the podcast. Yeah. Fitness ends for 2020. Three flares on the floor. So flares are...
Starting point is 00:42:37 Shh. It's when you're in trouble on, oh, it's C, and you have to. You will have seen people do on the Pummel Horse, where legs are wide, moving, yeah, that's advanced. It's so hard. Because you've got one, I've seen you do one. I've just nailed two on the floor. Well, not nailed.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Is there going to be really difficult to get? Yeah, because what I'm doing with the two is that I'm basically just coasting on the momentum from just winging myself around, but it's bad form. So what do you have to do to do that? Like how do you just do more? Because if you can only do two flares, right? You can't train flares. Both legs like up, that's all alongside your face. So what I mean is like and how do you train for that? So I got a mushroom from eBay, which I've been doing, but if forces you into bad habits, because obviously you're into bad habits, because obviously your legs can go below the floor. So actually, you learn, you're almost in
Starting point is 00:43:30 great a wrong technique, you're in great one that's good for pommel horse but not for floor. So now I'm forcing on getting more lift and just like, you do have to be able to get into like a really comfortable pancake like active as well. So I was, yeah, yeah, I've said flex has just been able to like, to do that. And then try sexual as well. Yeah, this is why, this is why gymnasts and mother fuckers. They're so impressive. We went, I went to a handstand workshop with James Bailey and a guy called Yuval Avalon who is a ex is really Olympic gymnast and now like a handstand. He's, he's monster like, just special forces. handstand. He's monster, like just like special forces. Special forces.
Starting point is 00:44:07 He's like 50 years old, he's in incredible shape. And he someone asked him, how do I do elephant lift? Which is, you know, he's like, when your legs are wide on the floor, you put your hands on the floor, and you lift into a handstand. And he did it like a beautiful one.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And then he was like, it's not about strength. Look at this. And he did one, but on the floor. So he sat down, had his feet out in front of him, like a nice of degrees, lean forward, and then slid his feet all the way around, so he was just lying on his front and then brought his feet back around again,
Starting point is 00:44:36 so he sat up again. So he was like, my hips have just got the full, yeah, full gyroscopic hips. So he's like, if you can do that, then you're not actually lifting. You're just putting your hands on the floor and you're already flat. All you have to do is just lift your legs up. So mine, I just need to be able to train again, man. Like, I know. So is that the, is that the, like, that's what you're moving towards?
Starting point is 00:45:00 My fitness aim for the end of 2020 would be able to do RX all of the CrossFit movements at 40 kilos if there's weight on it, pain free and without fear. So currently I'm not lifting, I don't do anything. Like I just do my rehab and it's a fucking destitute place to be of someone who's used to training. But these are the sacrifices that I need to make and people at Brian Carroll's split his fucking sacrum in half front to back. And went back and he's now gonna try and squat 1,200 pounds at 275, which would be the first man on the planet to ever do it.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And like, stop fucking complaining. Your problem is not as bad as you think it is. You're still able to do some things. It's a good idea. You suck it up and crack on. I'm consistently impressed with your boredom tolerance for the big three, or for doing any rehab movements.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Like, you're going to the gym and just do rehab, but that would drive me mental. It's actually because I'm very selfish, it's because I want to train. I want to train so badly that I'm prepared to do something super boring to be able to train again. So, it's just like, I'm almost surprised at myself for that long-termist mentality. All the powerlifting world is probably the biggest example of people who, like, lay in Norton, dinged his back like three times, I think, right before me. And there's videos of him like, you just keep saying brick, brick, brick, brick, brick. So he like works out and he's like, does 300 for a double, back goes again. Is that right? Back to doing
Starting point is 00:46:20 like bird dogs and he's just the whole, he's building it like gob God bless you guys but you just keep going. You need it for years. In Dominable man. Recommendations for the best wearable fitness tech. So you have gone back to where you've gone back to where in the Wootband. Why? Whoop. Quick one. Why? Mainly because when you're doing part of the thing the only thing that's relevant for it really is HIV. So the strain, the strain's mainly a cardio measure, like your heart rate zones and other things. So it's just interest really. Plus, the new weeper. Have you ordered a new strap? Yeah. Is it arriving soon?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah, I'll be interested. Well, I've ordered the weep three. Oh, yeah, okay. So they sent me a thing saying, if you just re-subscribe, we'll send you a Woop 3. For me, so that's what I like. I like three things. Do you have any wearable fitness stuff? Oh, withings.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Withings. Oh, yeah, the with it. So Chris kindly gave me a Widdings watch, which is good, just tracks. It's very, it's like first gen, so it's just tracks heart rate. It's so thin. And I know he's even kind of,
Starting point is 00:47:24 it's like a very good, I don't know. I know you've got even kind of, it's like I'm getting good at that. I want to get, I want to try and all ring George, so he would lend me his, see whether I like it on my buy one, I use a muse headband for meditation. Just so. Which is what? For soul, man. Did you?
Starting point is 00:47:38 Okay, so I mean, that, it's very good for a certain style of meditation. They claim that the new gen accounts for more like heart-oriented meditation. Yeah, those are new gen accounts for more like heart-oriented. Yeah, as he wants to go out like, heart-mind stuff, heart-ins. Okay, so you can do different styles. It certainly does correlate to wearable EEG
Starting point is 00:47:53 that you could correlate with the level of concentration that you have. And what was the other one? There's a heart-math institute device. I think you wear it around your chest that I'm interested in buying it was $200 But I'm not if you're listening just send this one out. We'll do that. I'll be lovely But I need to justify that to myself by using them use more consistently. Yeah, I think like even just fit bit
Starting point is 00:48:18 Just I think there's no there's no downside just having something Mm-hmm. I need what I need is something as comfortable as a whoop, which gives me the same reader as a whoop, but has the time. Yeah, I just need to have the time. I need the time. Because if I had something that had the time, it's displayless.
Starting point is 00:48:34 If I had something that had the time when I wouldn't need to get my phone out to check the time, then you're looking for. Yeah, so. So you're thinking to get a new whoop there? I'm gonna try the three, because I did like the reader on that, and I've noticed that I'm not taking as much care about my sleep
Starting point is 00:48:47 because I sleep with my phone out of the room which means that I can't use sleep cycle and also I can't track what sort of quality my sleep is through sleep ranges. The biggest thing for me is just wearing it more like a watch position. So I was obsessed, you know, they recommend like wearing it up here. I was obsessed with that and it was making it fit weird for me. The new one, the new one with the new strap will be better. Very quick one. At what point do you draw the line when it comes to the trade off between personal data and personalized slash tracking services, eG wearable tech?
Starting point is 00:49:17 I just think as soon as it takes up more than a couple of minutes, you day just fuck it off. Like if I think what that question's asking, I think is like privacy, yeah. Oh. I think giving you stuff away. I think. Oh shit, yes, of course it is. Sorry, Alfie, I'm fucking mad at my aunt.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Yes. I don't care. Yeah, I don't go fuck. However, 23 me and ancestry and stuff like that, apparently there's some people that don't you shit about. There's some people that are getting convicted for crimes. They're committed because they're able to find the genetic profile through that. Which is like, that's scary shit.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Right, you're a good one here. Mr. San Shrew. I ask this already with my own answer, but interested to hear your threes living 20 plus years under the idea that we aren't admired for the depths of our perception. In reference to Chris' favourite writings, I'll end a bottom on the high degree of loneliness and it's an extra part of being a sensitive, intelligent human. Do you feel the greater your investment and depth of progress in modern wisdom and
Starting point is 00:50:16 correlating practice, the more compounded the sense of loneliness? For one of a better word, follow up, do does ignorance out? Do you think ignorance really would be bliss? Does he mean ignorance from the, well, obviously you don't know, but like is it ignorance from the perspective of the root of self-improvement? So the question, the main question here is, do you feel the greater your investment and depth of progress in modern wisdom and correlating practice, the more compounded the sense of loneliness. Well, I suppose in the most basic sense, like there are fewer and fewer people who have
Starting point is 00:50:54 reliable experiences. Yeah. To good question, I understand what you're asking. So the Alain DeBotten video from the School of Life, which is why we're fated to be lonely, basically says that people who have subtle country are allowing points of view less likely to be accepted by society at large because of the mimetic nature of us as beings and the fact that we're tribal and we want to be accepted given the choice between honesty and acceptability. Most of us will compromise our honesty in order to be accepted by people that were around. And the long and short of that is that a lot of
Starting point is 00:51:31 people compromise who they are so that they can be around people that aren't like them, but just so they're around people. And like I did that for a very long time. The bottom line is, and it's the thing that we continue to come back to with everybody that I speak to, absolutely everyone, from Andrew Doyle, the guy that created Tanya McGrath, Sam Harris wrote an entire book on it, John Peterson, it's one of his number one rules, tell the truth, and if you're telling the truth, you can't, you have to follow whatever that particular calling is, you have to do the thing which calls to you. And for me, personally, the more tools that I've got in my toolbox, the better I've been at actually being effective because my sense of solitude, not loneliness, the time that I spend on my own, I love.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Like, there are fewer and fewer people that I can really, really genuinely connect with about everything that I do, but there are more people that I can connect with about some things that I can really, really, genuinely connect with about everything that I do, but there are more people that I can connect with about some things that I do. Yeah. There's more arms to what I can talk about. I can now go talk about back health. I genuinely have an hour's on conversation about back health. I couldn't have done that before I started learning things.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I think you, it's the same as like a business serving in niche, right? Like if you try and serve everyone you end up serving no one, I think you, the people you end up meeting as a result of just going down the route of modern wisdom and the conversations you end up having. Like, if you put us three in a bar for an evening, you're like, you've got to sit in the bar and just talk about whatever you want. Like, how much of that time would we spend talking about, like, surface level, pointless conversation? Like, it would all be, like, some really deep, like, the other people would walk in and have
Starting point is 00:53:14 the fuck you talk about, like, but we end up talking about the finest details with something that we're really interested in, that other people may think is weird, but where we're having the best conversation ever, because it's something we're more interested in. So you either have like talk about like match in the day, or something that you really, really care about. They're deeply passionate about. What about yourself, or do you think? It's, yeah, it's something you have to make a choice about, whether you are just hanging around with people for the sake of being with people. And if you're compromising on who you are for that, I think you have to need to really ask yourself the question of maybe with people. And if you're compromising on who you are for that, I think you need to really ask yourself the question
Starting point is 00:53:46 of maybe it's better to actually withdraw and pursue what you love and think about. Embed yourself in the thoughts and pursuits that you enjoy, and then you will find people that resonate like we're in an age where you can find people like that so easily now If you are someone that is feeling lonely and not something you're aware of I think personally I've not felt loneliness for a long time because I think my life is very much the opposite like I'm just getting pounded wherever I Wherever I go like turn up at work and you just, your phone is just going mental and beat your ears
Starting point is 00:54:25 and demand and you come home and you, you know, your messages and your phone and everything's like, so I think for me, I also very much value just alone time because it's like, oh, the difference. So I love CalMuePort's definition of solitude, which is time away from the input of other people's thoughts. Yeah. And there's difference between being on your own and solitude, because you can have all of these things with
Starting point is 00:54:53 and without loneliness, but most people don't actually have solitude. They have their foam with them while they're on their own, or they're on their own, but with the TV or nor with the radio or whatever it is, that's not necessarily solitude. Solitude would be you with no other stimulus other than you on output journaling or writing. If you're always trying to escape that loneliness by like having something on in the background or whatever, then I suppose that's where you're going to ask yourself for questions. Do I need to sit and think about hang on what can I what am I not engaging with or what I what should I be engaging with mentally that is that I'm avoiding The follow up with wood ignorance be blessed john pizza said this is live show long story short
Starting point is 00:55:38 He says that The Thing which poisons you need to take enough of for it to be a toxic to turn a Toxin into a tonic and he says that the progression through these particular issues is not a regression It's more it's take more of what it is that you think that poisons you until it becomes a tonic that fixes you So anyone who knows the allegory of the cave play as allegory of the cave. It's that exact story So just go listen to play as allegory of the cave, then you'll understand exactly what I mean. I don't think ignorance is bliss. Like some people coast through life, but it is both a blessing and a curse to feel everything so very deeply like, and what?
Starting point is 00:56:16 Like fuck me, I would much sooner be able to appreciate the beauty of everything with real fidelity, and then I have to suffer a little bit, because you don't really live your life on the couch just chilled out fucking within the tightest interquartile range of human experience. Like much sooner die and I've highs and lows than I've just constantly lived in a bit of comfort. The biggest example of this for me was leaving corporate life, leaving 95 life and being entrepreneur. Thrown into the fucking ether. Yeah, because it's quite a lonely experience at times, especially if you're sat by yourself, something bad happens on your computer screen.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And it sends you into this emotional, and you're just there on your own, you've just got to sit with that experience whereas the analogy I always say is like as an entrepreneur, you're in a dinghy on the top of the sea, while there's a storm happening. If you're an employee you're like on the riverbed and someone goes, you know there's a storm up there, fucking hell. Sorry I have someone on it, someone's on it, where's your like, bro?
Starting point is 00:57:16 I'm trying to like, fix a hold of it. Yeah, I want to go on the phone. You suck it out. It's a really fucking great energy. So like, you know, and then you're like, well, you have moments where you're like, it would be easier just so that when I think ignorance is bliss, for me, the thing I think of as well,
Starting point is 00:57:35 you could just go sit in an office and like chat with people about love Island and, yeah, that's obviously I'm very generalizing, but like this is sat by yourself, looking at a computer screen, fucking, I'm like, that's spoon trouble.ified, generalizing, but like, this is sat by yourself looking at a computer screen for fucking dealing with a spoon trouble. Yeah, try to block your tap. Life isn't lived from the comfort you couch, one. I got one. Very keen to hear Mr. Sanjuru, if you have any examples,
Starting point is 00:57:57 normal or very silly, where ignorance would be bliss. Because I'd like, it's a great thought experiment. Like, are there any situations where date of death, date and method of death? So, so you reckon that would be, you'd prefer not to know. I can't think of a situation now. I'm sure there would be where. Fire it in the comments below. We want to hear. I got one more, I got one more before we'll go back on to yours. This is from Andrew Tate. He is very interesting in that personality
Starting point is 00:58:30 and a good online mate of mine. Can I ask if True Jordy regrets doing a hit piece on me? Now everyone knows he loves Dildos. Oh dear. True Jordy is a background of that. So True Jordy's Instagram DMs have been leaked in which he talks at length about liking to be humiliated, about sucking the dick of a black man after it's been inside of
Starting point is 00:58:52 this girl that he's talking to about this girl humiliating him and putting dildos inside of his ass, about him then sucking the dildos after they've been inside of his own ass. He's leaked it. It was all over Twitter, man. Because you're not on Twitter, but it is everywhere at the moment. And he called out Andrew Tate. Andrew Tate did this ridiculously big tweet about why he doesn't like Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And it went like a hype of viral. And Andrew and Lawrence went when I'm fairly hard. And Andrew's recently done a video where he's just like, just gotta be careful, just be careful. Exactly what he said. He's like, man, if you've got shit like this lurking around, don't come after someone like me.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I don't know whether I don't think it's him that leaked it, but I think the bigger lesson from that is like people think that When they type something in iMessage or WhatsApp or Instagram DM that like it's in this little private world that no one's gonna Fucking screenshot away from being public. Yeah exactly. What you got gives another one. Let's do some quick fight once that's moved through If you could have chosen your own name, what would you've picked? I've got a bossed. Oh! Barmort.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Do you believe in media? No, no, no, no, no, come on. You're like, I don't know. I'm quite happy with you, sir. It's a very common name in the Arab world, but here it's... I was going to be Jonathan. We're really. What's going to be Jonathan?
Starting point is 01:00:24 And then... What do you want at that? I don't mind. Jonathan's cool name. There's one of the problems that I have with Jonathan is the number of different ways that there are to spell it. Johnathan, Johnathan, John N. That's sort of John, Johnny, John. How do you call it?
Starting point is 01:00:37 Johnny, John, Johnny, John. The sort of the Christian connotation of Christopher. Not by those. Not by those. Not by those. No, by those. Jonathan's biblical as well. I don't know. I like Johnny.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I don't like Jonathan, but it's a link to like Jonathan. I like the fact that I've got two versions of my name, Chris and Christopher. So do you get, I suppose you don't have a short version of your name, do you? Seth. But like, but it's okay. So an example, like let's say you get, I suppose you don't have a short version of your name do you? Seth. You, but like, but okay, so an example, like let's say you are, like someone has, has got no you a bit and they call you Chris, rather than Christopher, do you have any
Starting point is 01:01:15 of the things like, ah, no. So I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, we Johnny, it's like they know me. Who's supposed to Johnny? Yeah, because if I get a senior on the internet. Yeah, yeah, whereas if I get a Jonathan, it's normally in a formal scenario, but Johnny is friends. So if someone in a positional authority calls me Johnny, you're like, I'm trying an example. It's just a good little canary in the coal mine about where they're at. Yeah, like to the cultures in Classical, you're Jonathan,
Starting point is 01:01:42 but when they're out of Classical, they're Johnny. That's good. They're called me Johnny. What was that? Do we believe in mediums? Yeah, what's it called? Do you believe in Classical, you Jonathan, but when they're out of Classical, you Johnny. Johnny, that's good. What was that? Do we believe in mediums? Yeah, it was gone. Do you believe in mediums? Do you think there are some actual science behind their practices? No.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Darren Brown. Go watch the loads of Darren Brown. We went to Iceland and all we did was watch the loads of Darren Brown. I loved it. Because there was a blizzard. Are you going to grow? It's fucking blizzard. What was the blizzard? Are you going to grow? It's a fucking blizzard. Are you going to grow your hair again?
Starting point is 01:02:06 No. The best type of male underwear, grenade wear or smuggling duds. What is the funniest thing you have ever seen a stranger do? Fuck me. Oh. Wow. I reckon you'll have seen... There was one that you said the other day. Excuse me, I'm not being funny, right?
Starting point is 01:02:27 Oh, the brain problem. That's fairly funny. We've had so many things happen at events we've been to, we're at the time. The event isn't that funny, but retrospectively, like, fucking hilarious. But I can't, none that would like transit on this. Right, here we go. I don't believe in mediums, by the way. Do.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Yeah. But not any, anyone that advertises themselves to be one, isn't one. I think if you're at the point where you're starting to like see glimmers of things that are outside of you, human reality, you'll be deep in a cave somewhere not really caring about trying to prove it to anyone. So by the time you're immediately, and for anyone listening, if you're a medium, you will know, you're going to be so off the deep end that it is right. I'm speaking of cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:03:18 You're rubbing your face on the ground in the weeds. Like what do you have to game from like being like, oh, mate, I can, because he's chatting to dead people. Yeah. But if you want, from being like, oh mate, I can... Because you chat with dead people. Yeah. But if you can chat for hours. That is a very good point. If you're a medium and you have access to the entire history of all dead people,
Starting point is 01:03:34 what the fuck you speak in Sharon's mumfell? Oh yeah, it could be. Oh, that's so true. Fuck it, gus. Nicola Tesla's out there and you're... Well, you put it like that, it is completely ridiculous. Completely ridiculous. Especially when Bruce Lee,
Starting point is 01:03:50 all the people are like, well, you know, Shadden, she's here, there's a calling, there's a calling. Hey, like, there's someone with an H, H and N, is it Harold or Harry or Harry, Hermione? And it's Hermione, I thought it was. Yeah, and the old scout. It's just a guy I'm doing Brown. He got his absolutely home-drawn
Starting point is 01:04:09 and courted by. Yeah, he got done. Yeah, it's funny to think you've ever seen a stranger do. It wasn't a stranger, but drove Darren Helm after the staff Christmas party a couple of years ago and I saw him throw up on the ground on Jezman Backroad and then as he came up from throwing up he threw up again standing upright and the force of him throwing up, literally, pushing backwards and he fell over in mud. Oh god. That was fucking at the time, side splitting in the hilarious. Something that, so related to that, this is just something that occurs to me that was funny at the time. I was 18, I was in basement in Newcastle. Everyone was drinking skittles and trebles and we had
Starting point is 01:04:49 this thing where it was called a TP or a tactical puke. Probably heard of that tactical chunder, was fun. So you just keep going to keep going. So we're out in the alleyway in the three of us and making ourselves be sick. Successful. So there's everyone's like, you know, things aren't threatened. And then like one person, and that encourages number two to be sick and number three to be sick. And there was a guy walking down the alley at the time, who saw that, not on a night out. Sores big sick and consequently was sick.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Just like soar and just the smell and even the urge of song throat where you smell it, isn't it? And then him being sick, like makes you want to be sick again and they're using this self-affirming, everyone's throwing up for hours. That was very funny. Johnny, what we got, let's keep on moving through these. Oh god, no, not that. through these questions. Someone wants to hear Matt Hoy wants to hear your nocturnal emission story. Oh, it's in Vipassana 10-day retreat. Long story short. You see, it was
Starting point is 01:06:17 on a silent meditation retreat. It wasn't allowed to think about sex or you're not allowed to master it. Didn't you have a day in the retreat where you just thought about it sex? Was that the day? I think it was the day after. Yeah, so Daniel Ingram says that, because I thought, like, because I remember David describing this and like day one is sadness, day two is feared and he's...
Starting point is 01:06:39 Day three is porn. And I said this to Daniel Ingram, he's like the guy who's like completed meditation and he was like, yes, that's what happens. He's like, that's the anatomy of the mind. Like everyone has that exact sequence of emotions that go through on each of the 10 days. I don't think I've ever had a wet dream. And you have a wet dream. I have a wet dream.
Starting point is 01:06:58 You have them in the end. You have them constantly. Yeah, you've never had that. I never had that. If you've had a wet dream, I never had. It's if you just... If you've had a weight training, comment below. Yeah. Of my friends that I've had this conversation with, I think it's 50-50 split.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Really? Quite a lot of people have. And what's going on? I mean, to come in my pants. In my pants. I did a come in my pants. So you woke up in a bunk bed after having done a come. And then drop kicked a man with come in your path. A French man.
Starting point is 01:07:25 You couldn't speak to him. Couldn't even apologize. Yeah, because you're not allowed to. But you just, you think I just kept laughing? I think I'm not about that, is that, because the whole idea of not making eye contact is that you don't like fuck with anyone's chi, isn't it? You know, you fuck with me.
Starting point is 01:07:40 You've dropped kicked a man with come in your path. And for the rest of the week, wherever you walk past him, you burst out laughing. Like, if there's a way to fuck with someone's head, the problem is it was like a mad, mad laugh. I'm just kidding. Like, I'm just staring myself. And so he was to thought I was like,
Starting point is 01:07:56 knocking in relent. Exactly. So you're gonna go sit meditate for 10 hours a day. And all you can think about is that weird bloke who looks like that pirate from the Captain Manor. He can't even look like Captain Hook. Yes, he is him. The guy with Smitty who keeps stopping him from getting in the Neverland. He dropped kick to me, fucking me, yeah. He's coming running down his leg. Right. If using
Starting point is 01:08:19 creating, should I use it on non-training days? Yes. Just propin fitness.com force that's creating. How's Just propinifitness.com for us as creating. Yeah. How is the propinifitness space program progressing? Space program. That's a question. Did we... Casper... Sorinson.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Casper. It's because in your... One of your slides is a put of a... Spaseman tumblin. Doing this a tumblin. Jesus Christ. That is such a... Attention, indeed.
Starting point is 01:08:42 High fidelity attention, yeah, exactly. Right. Well, Johnny's legs so long. Why are Johnny's legs so long? Obbs, because powerlifting. And why, why is that? Obbs, because powerlifting. Tom Wilkes. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Tom Wilkes Booth. Yeah. I think I was there. He was even made his last name powerlifting, right? So it's not Wilkes. We're only once the IPF formula. Okay. Who is the coolest person who listens to modern wisdom? My mom. My mom lives in the small wisdom. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:21 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don to Modern Wisdom, who love it. No, man. I mean are they all cool, I suppose they are. Some of them are fucking fit. If you would have picked a favourite Modern Wisdom episode from the last 100 that we've done, what would it be? Any that stand up? How the Survivor University continues to come back as a fucking beltic, because I wish I'd had it. I enjoyed business one and one,
Starting point is 01:09:46 the first business one, just because I think those stories are always like, at the time, not funny at all. When things go wrong, not funny at all, but afterwards hilarious. It's true. Lifehacks 107 was very good as well, I remember. But, I don't know. Could you talk about some lifehacks?
Starting point is 01:10:03 Yeah, we probably, yeah. Lifehacks 107 was where we really went off. I think it's like an hour and 40. It's like a real problem. Other fucking one. What other questions and last I've got. Oh, the second one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:17 How to one. How to start improving the value of your in a circle and stepping away from negative slash passive people Be friends with people that want the best for you Jordan Pete's and all over again Just in terms of how you do that Someone asked us a question today about like how do you improve your network? And I just said For me, it's always been the gym I I think. We have the most interesting people.
Starting point is 01:10:47 If you want to meet interesting people, go to interesting places. Not only I say the gym is an interesting place, but you can say, for fairly sure, as long as you're not going to a class and exercise for less or whatever, if you go to something that you're interested in, you'll probably find someone who's interested in the same thing. They're probably also interested in other self-development things. So I think that you'll find those people, yeah, if you go to the hangout of the interest for that thing, and you're more likely to find a higher quality people within that, if you join something that's behind a paywall, so if you join a mentorship or a gym or something that's exclusive, but it's for people
Starting point is 01:11:27 that because they've all put their money where their mouth is and they've all decided to enter into a network or something to really take things faster. George McGill, when does Johnny plan on using Snapchat ads? That's really awesome. Jesus Christ, I'm not answering that question. There you go, sorry, George. It'm not answering that question. There you go. Sorry, George. It's a good suggestion, George.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I'm looking into it. Social commando, what are your thoughts on Insta removing the follower and the like numbers? It's fine. I don't like the idea of follower, because I think that it is an indicator of credibility. Do you think they're going to do that? They're trying the removal of likes. I think there's no like countering on Australia.
Starting point is 01:12:09 They can't remove comments, surely, because then you can't comment on that. You can't see the number of comments. You can't see the engagement basically on posts, so much to grow. I wonder why they're doing that. And young people being obsessed with it. It's an interesting experiment. I think it's affected a lot of influencers negatively. Well, that's their credibility, right?
Starting point is 01:12:35 Their credibility is. It's their currencies, yeah, exactly. You've just made a big career. You turn, how did you make that big decision and implement it? I think we discussed this in business principles, one or two, definitely worth listening back to. You just said, fuck it, I'm sick. It was, yeah, it was pain avoidance rather than some kind of noble motivation to, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:57 You're all successful professionals. These are from all sexual professionals. You are all sexual professionals and within fitness, nutrition, meal prep, and with them, okay, nutrition, meal prep, hacks and tips. Slow cooker. Oh, no, what's the question? I'm not sure about the first bit, just nutrition, slash meal prep, hacks and tips. Just drop it, drop it. Slow cooker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:21 For me, removing gluten, removing like big sauces of gluten and dairy has helped like I can't believe you said that Chris It used to be a lot of pasta, didn't you? I've just switched it to different starch carbs, right? Did you go like um? Fireballer god in will you won't go? No, just little There's a pump on the pump as if to throw you down I think Did that not do that that's what I do Remember that actually I'm not Cel Do you want to do that one, too? I do. And I remember that actually I'm not Celia, can it's fine?
Starting point is 01:13:50 You listen to me. We all occasionally have epically failed slash down days, slash get pissed off. How do you deal with them? She ingested. Mm. Changed the temperature. So move. So here's an interesting thing.
Starting point is 01:14:06 I'll be one of the chat to you about this. Age as a go, you said, I get the same zero one mentality shift from training. I mean you should follow. But with CrossFit, you definitely do. And I think it's because you get there as a definitely finished session like, and you're immediately in about mood and you're immediately forgotten what you're worrying about before.
Starting point is 01:14:31 So that's what made me go back to like just get up, go for a run, do something, change your temperature, cold shower, hot shower, coffee, the matlin, listen to a bear to yourself. Yeah, the commonality there is get out of your head and chew your body. Yeah, and then Yeah, I mean I said the quote is I get a better mindset reset From training than I do from a night's sleep. Yeah, and that's true My I'm more I wonder whether this has actually been made worse by my meditation practice the fact that my motions are a little bit more transparent To me now and concentration clarity and equanimity, I'm trying to hold them with more of that, which
Starting point is 01:15:10 actually means that they're more visceral and they're more of the forefront of everything. But yeah, just go train. I have like real depressive episodes which I haven't had, thankfully I haven't had really that much recently. So when it's those ones, it's a there's not really much of a solution like when it's a proper can't get out of bed day, try and get out of bed, try and go for a little walk. I did a tweet not long ago that said, almost all of the problems in my life can be fixed by a terminate walk, a good night's sleep, a glass of water, or a wank. The idea you all at once. Actually, a guy to follow for that sort of stuff is Paul Norton. There's a he's, was diagnosed with bipolar, you know?
Starting point is 01:15:56 Yeah, and what? Had like professional help, but now, like, self-managers, and he has a lot of stuff about state change, and his, I think his quote is like, is did.agers and he has a lot of stuff about state change and his, I think his quote is like, where attention goes, energy flows. So he does a lot of stuff about, like, focusing on, you feel that way. So it's like, right, what a win I've had today. Like, I'm just going to focus on, I'm just going to put all my energy that this thing or, you know, he, like, goes and gets in his car and plays music really loud and goes for a drive. You can immediately think like, oh, that's probably very nice.
Starting point is 01:16:32 What do you think is the biggest factor in sticking to your goals and avoiding getting distracted? That's from Jake. You need to know what your goals are. I'm terrible. I've never done proper genuine long-term planning for goals ever. I just think you can. But I've never done any sort of moderately formalised process. The closest that I've come is future authoring from John Peterson and I did half of the course. So I just sticking to your goals requires you to have goals and unless you go through a process of working out what it is that you want and then So I just sticking to your goals requires you to have goals and unless you go through a process of working out what it is that you want and then deciding how you even begin to move towards that.
Starting point is 01:17:14 You're just like 90% of people will say, I don't achieve or I haven't achieved my goals. You say, okay, what are your goals? And then what have an answer? So this is the quote that Chris often quotes, which is he who has the right why can bear almost any how from nature. And like, yeah, if you know what the high level thing that you're aiming for is then putting those jigsaw pieces into place becomes much more effortless because it's all with a greater purpose in mind. The thing is if you wake up you're just falling into it. The thing that made me feel like a prick was the quote from James Smith. James Smith, James Clear, where he's like, or someone rephrased it was like everyone on the start line of the 100 meters
Starting point is 01:18:04 Olympics has the goal to win the 100 meters but one of them wins and the only difference is not the goal the difference is the process spend all this time like setting these goals in your life you know actually like Bill Gates has got a goal like there's probably similar business goals like growers business but he really he really achieves it. Nat Elizson has a great rebuttal to that, that systems without goals are pointless. So the system has to have a be attached to something. Sorry I agree with that, yeah. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Really nice compliment to that. The ever accepting nature of the CrossFit community, where does it come from, or is the CrossFit member base the most affluent fitness consumers on Earth? Probably a bit of that. So CrossFit's quite an elitist, like quite a, especially in the UK, it's pretty privileged, like very white, very middle class, at least in our gym, and wearing the, you know, in the thick of a new castle. Selling a new castle, isn't that interesting Yeah, hardly, hardly that Toftsville. It's only that one's carved.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Yeah, it is indeed. Yeah, it's, that is a good point. I think one of the other things is that CrossFit's branded itself as, it looks cool. Like if you dress like a powerlifter outside of the gym, people walk on the other side of the street to you. If you dress like a CrossFitfit or outside of the gym, you look like someone that does fitness. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:30 It's a commercially acceptable face of powerlifting, strength sports, endurance. You don't have to wear tights, you don't have to wear a wetsuit, you don't have to wear weird heavy-metal t-shirts and a beard. It's a very, yes, perjure. and like a beard and it's it's very um this perjure. It's just a little like the research. I'm talking about Chris Williams. Yeah it's a surgical that. I've certainly felt extremely welcomed and I didn't expect that. I thought I'd get like who's this guy who you know big 300 kilo deadlift like that's showing him yeah but it's
Starting point is 01:20:05 been the opposite of that it's been you know like coaches like taking extra time to explain something like I can't do toaster bar like how bad is that but explaining it to me but the I think for me it's the it's the branding probably like they make it look aspirational you don't watch you don't even watch Olympic lifting on TV. It's probably that, like Olympic lifting is strong man. Not many people sit and watch, like Brian Shaw at Christmas and think, fuck me, I wanna look like Brian Shaw.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Like, well, I like Brian Shaw's like, they look at the guy, I'd like, imagine he's gonna have a bar back. Whereas you watch the CrossFit documentaries and you think, like Rich Fr Froning just like, badass. Like, you can do all this stuff, he looks good. Healthy, healthy. Go to like rounded family life.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Yeah. Like, you hear the stories about Eddie Hall, like where he was at when he was, yeah, he's, going proper, shredded. But when he was at the peak of his career, he was like, my, he was, he was pretty adamant with another six months of marriage, he would have been fucked.
Starting point is 01:21:04 He had like multiple heart attacks as well, it was fucked, yeah, fully fucked strong back. Have you got, have you seen that you've got some new ones on the second story? Yeah, what would be your ultimate lifehuck, which you already kind of covered on? Yeah, um, Swap up, yeah. Should trans athletes be allowed to compete as the gender they identify as? So I really like Joe Rogan's perspective on this, I don't know what I mean. Which is the Should trans athletes be allowed to compete as the gender they identify as? I really like Joe Rogan's perspective on this. Which is that with combat sports particularly,
Starting point is 01:21:34 we need to be very careful about, is it progressive to allow someone who has been physiologically a man for 30 years and transitioned very recently to beat up a woman when there isn't unfair combat advantage in terms of reflexes. So that's an advantage on this idea that it's someone's biological capabilities that influence by the gender they were birthed or like the sex they were, I don't know. Well, I'll be saying it wrong, you know what I mean? Yeah, like the, you know, if you take gender out of it and you say you have two humans,
Starting point is 01:22:12 competing in a combat sport, one of them has had 30 years of testosterone and then it stops a testosterone. And that's influenced their physiology in such a way that they have an unfair advantage is that fair from a sporting perspective. And I think you've got to really separate the socio-cultural issues of gender and gender politics from just the pure sporting judgment. What are just hormones? Yeah, hormones are one of the most important things in competitive sport Like dick pound Yeah, which is the head of water or like it maybe was like dick pound is silent
Starting point is 01:22:52 He is all he's thinking about is hormones. What are we allowing people to have in their bodies and not having their bodies? And then you take as you say like someone who's like 30 years of High levels of testosterone and then they decide to compete with women. You've got two things running up against each other, which is one, someone's right to express the gender identity that they feel they should express in a sport that they love and the other is. Sporting fairness.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yeah. Because it doesn't yet have to be. Even before all of the safety things, it's like a hundred metre sprint. I think the evening, I think it might be golf or tennis, it's in tennis, like the thousands of the man in the world would beat Serena Williams, apparently. Right. I mean, like. But they play, I don't know whether it's the same thing, but they play like a different
Starting point is 01:23:42 volume of tennis, don't they? Male and female tennis players. It's totally different tactic, I think. But even if you just look at the raw data, like look at the 100 metre times of the men and the women, that's say you allow one of those men to assign themselves as a woman and compete in the women female Olympics, is that fair on the female athletes who were competing last year? Well, there was a weightlifter, wasn't there?
Starting point is 01:24:05 The transition to the lower level. Was it like cleaning jerks 130 in the like top-weight category, which for a man is a good jerk's high, higher than higher than normal testosterone. I thought was that that thing? I was actually thinking of it. I thought it was someone who I...
Starting point is 01:24:21 No, I've said the person called lower levels was one of the big weight lifting things. So I had a fairly lengthy discussion with Zubi about this. He was a guy who tweeted saying People say there's no biological difference between men and women watch me smash the World women's deadlift record PSI identified as a woman side so by doing this, don't be a bigger. And he pulled 230 sumo, and that is 40 kilos under his max, but 10 kilos over the women's in that weight category, and the correct weight category.
Starting point is 01:24:59 The question that I haven't actually got around to speaking about, I spoke to Andrew Doyle about this as well, is the other side of the debate, which is what do you do as a trans athlete? Like if you're a man who's transitioned to be a woman and you're a boxer and you want to box who the fuck do you box? So I remember Ben Tome was talking about this with someone saying that like we just maybe need to use a different definition of male female. I don't know whether it's basing it on chromosomes or basing it on something. Something that's not the way that we currently define it. The problem is there's a lack of clarity between what male as XXXY definition with, with homo and profile and gender expression or gender identity is, and then you're trying
Starting point is 01:25:45 to fit the square pegs and round holes that work for sport. And this is where the difficulty lies. And 50% of the difficulty of when people are having these discussions is that people play linguistic tricks. And they go, right, well, you said woman, do you not mean woman or mat and you lie? people just want to get offended by it. I keep over. I want to have a discussion about how to navigate. You try talking about it. It's a difficult thing to get,
Starting point is 01:26:11 say the right things and express it in the right way. It's even more difficult when people want to get offended. They're just waiting for you to, they've got to be fucking bigger. You fucking transfer. Especially when they have an opinion, and if you express an opinion that isn't their opinion, you're immediately unfair. No, maybe I just think it's something different to you.
Starting point is 01:26:29 So yeah, that's definitely one of the things. But the question of like, do you then obviously it would be fairly prejudiced to segregate trans across and say, right, okay, here's a male to female and a female to male category that you can only go out. I mean, that's going to be so wittled down that it's gonna be a terrible sport to watch or be involved in, because you're never gonna find someone who's ever similarly capacity to you.
Starting point is 01:26:51 But it's fraught to try and continue to fit these things into the existing setups. Because it's just the house to be parameters for sport. It doesn't sport if it's just anyone can do it if the fuck they want. I know. I know I weighed into the 105s at one point. But I went into via Identify as 105. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Can I identify as a 74? That would help me immensely. I would. Everything. So it's like, there is a parameter that is set and so on because it's a number on a scale and Wilkes and you know, the 100-re time, all these things are data points that cannot be argued with but because this is still a parameter which affects the fairness of the game that is being played but because there's an emotional aspect to it, it gets very tense
Starting point is 01:27:37 very quickly. It's the Ben Shapiro question, right? Why aren't you 60? Yeah. Why aren't you 60? Yeah. Why aren't you six? It's, yeah, well, because I'm not. Yeah. Yeah. Is it to cheat us and he's like, are you a tree? No. Why not? Because you're not a tree. Okay. Well, we're getting somewhere. Yeah, the terrible impression, but it should be there should be a role model is like a Are you 60 why aren't you 60 and the girl says well because there's there's there's There's not there's a bit of a difference between what I am now and being 16
Starting point is 01:28:14 He says yes, there is but there is a much bigger difference between you being a woman and you being a man And the problem with this is that because of how militant Some active voices have been on the left on this issue, what you will do is you will, like, just put in like, in volleyball, it's like that little set up for the spike. Yep. And then someone like some mother fucker, like Peterson or Harris or Shapiro is going to come in and they're going to eviscerate someone and make sure they're silly. And then, and then what's going to happen is they're going to be accused of being insensitive, which perhaps they've delivered in an insensitive way.
Starting point is 01:28:52 And then it's like, oh, no, and they go back and then it creates his gemitannis. Well, yeah, and I think like, this is why I think like, I mean, I'm a clinician, I'm a scientist, I'm not interested in really in the gender politics. And it's like, okay, so if we want to, if it's a real question, it was actually interested in, how do we judge sports? Then it's like, right, what is the fundamental premise that we are saying here? We're saying we have two divisions, men and women. First of all, should we have two divisions split up like that?
Starting point is 01:29:21 That's the first question. The next one is, is there a objective difference between men and women? Is there a biological difference? And that point alone is still being debated. Like, there's still people that believe that there is no biological difference between men and women. And then it's just the way that they're socialized as children. So, so then you're like, okay, well, I mean, that's that's fine if you want to believe that on your own, but then do you have any problem taking testosterone for 30 years or do you have any problem like competing in it?
Starting point is 01:29:52 Well, if you ask those people, okay, well, should we allow drugs and sports? Like, is that a sign strong? Was what he was doing? Is that okay? Well, it's fine because it wouldn't make a difference having testosterone or not because it doesn't, there's no... So I think because the fundamental premise isn't really clearly fleshed out, then it means you can't move any further forward because it's like that, still have like calories in,
Starting point is 01:30:14 calories out is like gravity and if you're saying you don't believe in gravity, then I have no interest in like getting in your plane or I'll butcher it, but you know what I mean, like there are fundamental things that have to be like all right fine, fine. Gravity exists. It's blower. Let's talk about fighting. Even with all of those things, right? And I said this to Andrew Doyle and to Zubi as I, this whole trans athletes in sports thing is a fucking very highly charged minefield. And I'm incredibly glad that I don't need to try and litigate it. Like, can you imagine if you're the man who has to work out whether or not transitioning athletes should be dick pound.
Starting point is 01:30:51 He'll be up there. You'll be on the board as part of deciding. Pounding. Yeah, a difficult job. A kind of adjacent question to this. Toxic masculinity in quotation marks. This is from Luke, toxic masculinity, who's to blame more for its creation, men or women. So what is toxic masculinity? Doesn't exist
Starting point is 01:31:14 as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I'm not sure I'm clear on you. But toxic masculinity is the overburdened, overression of typically masculine traits to a tyrannical or oppressive level, as opposed. So man's planing, man's spreading. Everything with manchester. Manchester. Manchester. Manuel.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Yeah. Stephen manual. Stephen manual. As far as I like to know, his opinion on this. As far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing as toxic masculinity. It's just people naming things. It's just people naming character traits. You have people that are girly, girly guys and masculine guys. Toxic masculinity to me is just the same as toxic femininity. Do you think like, you know, the generations prior to us, like, you know, the generation
Starting point is 01:32:00 that dealt with that World War II, I just think, maybe I'm wrong, but I imagine if you presented them the sort of things that are being argued about now, they'd just be upset. There's a clip of George from mental models, one or two, saying something like that, of like something about being on the front line in World War II, and then they're like,
Starting point is 01:32:19 Oh my Instagram, getting likes is okay. Like I can't do that, because I don't identify as a soldier. On the other side, on the other side of that question, it's no use to any of us to judge the life that we have now with the lens that we would have used 100 years ago. Like I'm not saying I don't know why I'm fucking bothered about getting cancer, at least I didn't die of, die of the bribonic plague. Like, yeah, I need to, I need to refine the fidelity of my view for what criteria I need my life and the life of those around me to be at as time progresses and as life gets better. Like, yes, we are no longer a world war. Therefore, I can start to
Starting point is 01:33:01 look at things like what our attention device is doing to my brain. As long as it's not, I feel like some of these things feel very much like they're making a problem. They're like, if you so toxic searching for a problem. Like yeah, like so being in a landing craft, about to arrive on, landing craft about to arrive on, normally beaches, that is for no would argue that is a problem you're about to experience. Serious. But in the same way, cancer is a problem. You can't argue that because cancer isn't the big on it plague, it's not as bad, it's
Starting point is 01:33:39 still a problem to deal with. But if you are everything in your life is alright, but you decide that actually toxic masculinity really offends you. So well, it does, it does it have to or are you choosing for it to be the case? Like if people lie to themselves so effectively, I think a lot of people would struggle to answer that. And especially if you then add in availability bias and echo chambers and yeah, if all you make to agree with you, then you can create yourself to believe anything that you want, right? I suppose we all have to have something to focus on and think about.
Starting point is 01:34:14 So why not make it toxic masculinity? Why not? Why don't we all just get really upset about it about toxic masculinity? And then there's a militia who we can do, which we can join. And they are humble and grateful and they're independent. Yeah. It must be stopped. There's two points here from my house mate,
Starting point is 01:34:31 who's upstairs. Number one, best way to go about getting on the property ladder or investing in property, think this will be useful to a lot of people in me. Let's try and do a really quick version of this. Build up 35 grand. Build up 35 grand. Purchase the property which has at least two bedrooms, ideally three if you can. Let the other two. That's it. I'd invest in reats. What's that real estate investment trust?
Starting point is 01:34:58 Are they available in the UK? Yeah. So it's an investment vehicle that basically allows you to get some of the gain, you probably know better than I vehicle that basically allows you to get some of the gain you probably know better than I do It allows you to get some of the gain of property without actually earning property Yeah, it's like a aggregate of a property portfolio that you get to buy in like a certain amount into and because you don't then need discrete sums of 35 grand Put you know deposit per thing you can get Exposure to the return of the properties that the reader is investing in without having to go all in.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Like a JV, you should say, this isn't financial advice. This is not financial advice. Yeah, this is just saying there is a vehicle. This is what we are aware of. What we might do, maybe. Part two, thefts advice to zero jealousy. Seth. Seth, he's called you Seth, but I've changed it because he means Seth
Starting point is 01:35:46 Seth's advice to Zero jealousy. I was awkward when you said Seth. Seth. Seth. You said what like Samuel? fine so It was it was quite simple. I just well sat sat on a rock release it for two hours and it was something that at the time for me was very pertinent It was the front of my consciousness. And I think when something's at the forefront,
Starting point is 01:36:09 if you dive into it, you realize it's like a bubble. It's looks like it's really big and intimidating and overbearing. And you just penetrate to the center of it and then it'll burst and you realize there's no pain attached to it anymore. And the triggers that would normally have set that off just aren't there, they don't exist anymore. So, do you have any
Starting point is 01:36:29 suggestions of places for people to start? Like, to land? Journey, maybe? Yeah, I listened to England. Where did you go? Yeah, it was in Finland. I'll remember it. So there's a few resources to start with, but I've not read this, but this might be a more accessible one, is a book called Radical Acceptance, because I think the methods that I use kind of twisted into each other, and there's too much to trace back from, but literally just sitting and like diving into the story, all of the physical sensations, all of the thoughts and beliefs around it, diving into the story, all of the physical sensations, all of the thoughts and beliefs around it, and just keep diving into it until you're fully comfortable with it. Because what you're probably doing is holding it away in some capacity.
Starting point is 01:37:16 And if that approach doesn't work, then the Byron Katie method that Johnny mentioned is very effective for interpersonal griefs. Just anything that happens. Anything that happens. Anything, basically anything in your life you can use that process for. Ask four questions. And that's how Gary Weber is a good guy to look into for this stuff because he did this with just everything in his life.
Starting point is 01:37:40 And then yeah, and he like took byron K.E. And the Dome of the Dome of the Yoga meditation all to 11 didn't need. like took byron K.E. and the Sedona yoga meditation all to 11 didn't you? He took more than 11. Yeah, so and he's he's he's functionally changed his brain and it's been replicated on FMR eyes like he's just got a permanent shift in the way that his brain works. If you watch the Daniel Ingram interview with you surf, Daniel Ingram wants on Skype, the YouTube video, you can just a tell, just watch the way that he expresses himself. He's fine about every...
Starting point is 01:38:07 Totally, like... He's a hundred percent... Give me a look into that camera and do it for me. He's a... He's a hundred percent present, completely emotionally neutral, bit happy. Bit happy. Bit happy. There's like, it's tinge of...
Starting point is 01:38:23 This is fun. But if it changed, it would be fun. It wouldn't matter. Yeah. To watch the interview with Daniel Ingram. Great. We couldn't get Gary Webber on the podcast. He's nearly declined.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Motherfucker. Last one. Where did the inspiration to do the podcast come from? From Sean J. I did Chris Fitt on the pro-Pimp Fitness podcast what like three years ago. Two and a half years ago. Time ago. In our office, I really enjoyed the process, love having discussions, decided that I wanted to do it more. What was his first episode? This? It wasn't Stu Morton.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Oh, we're in the Atlantic. Number one, fuck. Then Lifehacks 101 and 102 and number two and three when I started Crossfit I went back and listened to the episodes of Jordan and episode four For Tim. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting time ago. Thank you. I think it was once But yeah, thank you very much for tuning in 100 episodes deep. I hope you enjoy keyu Chris Thank you for doing 100 episodes of modern wisdom three questions Great questions. We'll do another Q&A if you want doing 100 episodes of Modern Muslim. Great questions. Great questions. Really good question.
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Starting point is 01:39:44 at MyMe.VIP, which is a really interesting way that girls have decentralized the ability to earn from their needs, who thought that was going to be a thing, 2019. We're going to do more business principles, more life hacks will be coming, and Fugnos, we've got another hundred episodes to get to before we have to think about something cool to do for episode 200. I think by like episode 300, Q&A is just going to be links to the podcast. Doesn't matter what anyone asks, it'll just be episode 13, 29, 124, and we'll just have all that.
Starting point is 01:40:17 In fact, that should be the mission to be absolutely indexed. So if you're in a, indexed your knowledge into podcasts so effectively. No human can come up with a question that hasn't already been answered. And then someone left it like, you know, the IBM Watson, like make a new one of them to ask us a question. Like, like, to create new prime numbers or, yeah. Like a Bitcoin magnet to find the next possible question. Yeah. Then we'll just make a new podcast.
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