Modern Wisdom - #1078 - New Studio Launch Party - Indian Fetishes, Betting on Wars & Tom Cruise

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

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Hello people, big news. I'm on tour in Australia, but I couldn't wait to share the brand new studio and a brand new episode style with you. There's no rules, no structure. It's just me hanging out and I'm bringing some friends with me. Enjoy the episode. See ya. What's that thing? There's a thing that people have where they hate the sound of like, mezophobia. I have it real bad. No way. Dude, if I hear you eat cereal next to me, I'll try to break your neck. It's the worst. Don't all women have this? Excuse me? Or everyone I've ever like dated How'd the fuck again? I saw this video

of some guy that's got one of those big tubes and it makes a So that kills you But it's worse Dude like when people do the muckpongs With their microphones Oh

The visceral rage You know they're eating into a fucking JBL microphone Who is the fucking guy that's Iop to everyone That's crazy Who is the king muckbanger that sigh up to everyone. Oh, Nikato avocado.

Yes, thank you. Did he die? No, he lost like 200 pounds. He lost all of the weight. Oh, really? Wow. Yeah, he's like the inverse Joey Chestnut. Yeah.

Well, he ballooned. Yeah. And then and then did it. Wow. But he got like peak fat and then had peak views on that one video of like, yeah. And look what happened to my life. And he was fucking did this reveal.

Wow. But he was losing weight the whole time. So the videos were old. And he was like crashing out and crying and obese. And then all of a sudden he just shows up. It just filmed all that. 200 pounds lighter. And he's like,

Hello. I have changed. It was the weirdest fucking video ever. Really like hairs on the back of your neck. This guy's maybe a psychopath stand-up type. Like they cloned him for something. It was crazy. It was fucking wild. All right. What do you got?

I want to hop straight in? I do. Show me what you've got. Let me, I'll tell you, I'll give a story. I'll tell you a story about the worst phone call of all time. You have my interest. Okay. So it's picture this. We're going to go back to

1970s, Surrey in England. There's like a beautiful old farmhouse called Old Croft. And a musician has just moved in. And he's in a band and they've just had their first like top 40 song. So it's at that point of a musician's career where either this is like, we're about to take off or we had that like one blith on me there. And he's just mortgaged like the most insane house for like his wealth size, like way above his income because he's betting on his future success. And he's like, this is the childhood sweetheart dream. He met his wife when they were 11 years old in drama class. And they got two kids together.

So they've moved into this house together. It was beautiful old farmhouse with their two kids. And like he's managed to get the deal on it. So it's slightly cheaper than he can afford, but it's still way too expensive. But the whole thing needs a whole paid job. It's like the whole building needs a load of different work. Kind of like this stuff here, right? And so he has to go on tour, go try and crack America to see.

if he can pay for this house. So he's kind of leaving the house. There's painters there that are doing everything up. And he's kind of saying goodbye to his family. And as he's saying goodbye, he doesn't know if this is going to be the last time he sees this house or if this is going to be the new family home. So he goes on tour for a year. And surprisingly, the tour goes really, really well. So he's basically going to pay from this mortgage. And at the end of the tour, he's having a phone call of his wife. And it's not going well. And she basically confesses, whilst he's been away, she's been having an affair. And like his heart just drops. He's like, who? So he starts thinking of whatever. It's like a singer or somebody else in the band. The guy she was having the affair with was the painter. He was paying

for the house. So he like got, he just loses mind. He ends up flying back from the tour, tries to win her back. The, not only can he not win her back, she basically says, I'm taking the kids and I'm leaving to Canada. So he sits down the band and he says, well, I think the band's over. I've got to go. I said, no remote work. I've got to go and go to fly to Canada and try and put my marriage together. So the band say, hey, we'll just do a solo hiatus. We'll all go on solo and we'll get back together. So he goes to Canada for three months, putting the marriage back together, flies back three months later. It's completely failed. And the only place he has to stay is he goes back to this old house and he says he walks in and he says the paint was still wet with the man who

cook hold, did me. So he can't, so he's just fuming. So he leaves, goes to his favorite restaurant, orders a ravioli, and he's just staring at this ravioli. He's starving because he's not eating days. And his ravioli is staring at him, he's staring back at the ravioli, he just can't eat. He goes back to the house. It's just this old derelict house that he's made all this money and paid for, but his family are no longer there. So he starts drinking, he's calling her, and she's ignoring his calls in Canada. He starts drinking, he's calling her. And finally he goes, well, I've got to start channeling this thing. So he decides, he looks at the master bedroom that she slept with the guy who was on his payroll whilst he's on tour and goes, well, you know what? This is going to become my new music studio.

So he starts like channeling all the energy that's coming up. And as he's like in the moment, he gramps the invoice from the painting and decorating company that slept with his wife. And he writes a song on it, okay? So should I play? I've got it on my phone. I'll play the song. You ready? this is the song that he writes.

You're shitting me. So that's how Phil Collins wrote in the air tonight. It's on the invoice of the painter that Slet with his wife. And what's interesting, what's fun about this? Did you know this story? What's so, what's funny about this, um, this story is, um, nothing. Well, he said a story. We got a bagger out of it.

But he, well, anyway, so Wallace, he's in this house. or in this new music studio that he's created, he then is in a fugue state, writes against all odds, which goes on to win a Grammy. So he makes that song, then against all odds the next day. What's interesting about the story,

the funny part is, what he makes against all odds, obviously becomes a smash hit on the radio. There's a guy in Manchester who's listening to the song on Loop because he's split up with his partner five years ago, his girlfriend five years ago. So he's listening to this song thinking about her.

Caesar at a bus station, and they end up going out on a date, spend all night until 6 a.m. They get back together. Within six months are engaged. We have three children. Second child was me. So the whole...

So the whole thing... What? He goes, yeah. Yeah, with the toothpick. Yeah. Yeah, the second child was me. Are you... So what's beautiful?

That was involuntary. When you re-listen to that Phil Collins... Wait, are you Phil Collins' son? Yeah, what's... No. No, no. Wait, I got lost in for a second. No, no, no, no.

My dad, basically loved that song when he split it with my mom, basically. Okay, okay. I was like, I thought. That's what you got from. No, no, no, no, no. Boom, Dad! You know which room that was? This room.

That's why you first. That room became a podcast studio. Yeah. Okay, still crazy. So, yeah. But what's crazy is when you re-listened to that, I think that song's incredible anyway. It still holds up 50, 60 years later.

But when you now rep Picture him in that old master bedroom where it all happened, And the lyrics often, when you go back and listen to the lyrics. Is he saying something that's like direct or coded for that? What was a part in there? Like, if you gave me, if you was drowning, I would not lend a hand. And it talks about you've been smiling or wiped that grin off your face. Right. It's all about him falling.

Doesn't sound like a breakup song on first lesson. But it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Dude, I fucking. It's such a fantastic one. What was it that we found out the other day that Dolly Parton wrote two of her fucking biggest...

Google, what two songs did Dolly Parton? Jolene. Jolene and fucking... Like, working 9 to 5 or something in the same day. She wrote them in the same day. Oh, wow. That's crazy.

Wow. There's a bunch of those examples of these bursts. These bursts where, like, I think the Beatles famously did this where they recorded like a fucking album in a day. They did like... They had like this insane burst of their greatest hits in a very short amount of time. What was Jolene and I Will Always Love You.

Wow. In the same day, she mentioned in interviews that she wrote them during the same songwriting session and later joked, that was a good writing day. Wow. So nonchal. I think Bobby Darren's Splish Blash was written in 20 minutes or something like that.

Have you guys heard the full Rocky story, the Sylvester Stallone's rocky backstory? No. Oh, this is insane. You know this one. So Sylvester Stallone wants to be an actor. And, you know, but he's got this like birth defect. So when he was born, I think the doctors, they did something.

That's why he has that crooked smile. So he had like a medical, almost like malpractice issue when he was born that messed up his face. But he wants to be an actor. He's a talk's kind of funny. Face is kind of funny. So he's not getting any roles. Keeps going to casting auditions. No role.

No role. No role. So he says, all right. If I can't get casted in somebody else's movie, I'll write my own. So he goes to his house and again, like sort of. in that fuge state. He basically does two things. He paints all the windows black.

And he's like, I'm not leaving this house. I don't even want to know if it's night or day until I finish the script. He hates writing. So he's like, I just got to do this fast because I hate writing. So in three days, he writes the script for Rocky. And he has, and the story of Rocky, which is like, this average guy wants to be a boxer, but it's not really happening for him. It's a story of him wanting to be an actor.

But he just shows boxing because it's more like physical, like, knockout punch. It's easier for the audience to understand. But it's his story. And so then he goes and he pitches the script and people are like, actually this script is pretty good. He's like, awesome. And they're like, we'll buy it. It's great. He's like, and I'm Rocky. And they're like, no, no, you're not Rocky. We'll buy the script, but you're not Rocky. And so he has an offer, I think for a million dollars or something like that, which at the time was a lot of money. And he turns it down. He ends up taking, I think, 25 grand or some ridiculously low amount of money for the script, but he gets to be Rocky. And he's struggling to make ends meet. He literally, he's like eating like, like, canned beans. He ends up selling his dog because he can't feed his dog. So he's like,

his dog was his only companion in the world. He goes, he sells it to a guy and gets like a couple hundred bucks for his dog. And then it's just like, fuck. He's just literally rock bottom. To film Rocky, he basically films the whole movie on like a million dollar budget, handheld camera, no permits, sneaking into things. They film Rocky that way. Okay, Rocky becomes this huge hit. He basically gets this money. He goes and he first thing he does, he goes back and buys back his dog. The guy doesn't want to sell it to him. He's like, I love this dog. And he ends up paying $25 grand to get his dog back.

And then that was basically the start of Sylvester Stallone's story. Was this like three-day bender he had to write the story of Rocky? How insane is that? Isn't the guy in the film as well? And that was part of the deal. It was like, I'll give you $25 grand and you get to be a cameo in the movie. And he's in the movie for Rocky. The guy, he's like, buy the liquor store is the guy who he sold his dog to him.

I didn't know any of that. Oh, fucking shit. I didn't know that so much. Isn't it better than the actual story of Rocky? A dog was George. And the semester Stallone is George's dad. Oh, it does. You've got the nose for it.

That's got you. Well, that's radiance. That's great. You've got you. You big four arms. That's true. So in prep for this episode, when you told me what the theme was of adult show and tell, I got on X for the first time in, I don't know, a year.

I never used that platform. Goldmine. What the hell of, what the hell about, what the hell about, No, us Twitter as the thing you brought. I found this beautiful new app. It was bought by a prominent billionaire, I think. No, I don't know how, but the algorithm was so curated to me, despite me not using it because of, I think, the one-off articles that my friends send me.

And one of the articles he sent me was, I think I've got it in there under GLP1's nuke the ability to love. Have you guys heard about this? I saw this. Do you guys see this? No. This is great. Okay.

So, we initially thought GLP-1's, like Ozempic, Transemptic, Transcendment. appetite and red at Trutide just reduced food cravings. Now we know they work for alcohol, cocaine, gambling, and other addictions too. But do you know what runs on exactly the same circuit? Falling in love. GLP1 receptors sit in the exact same brain regions that light up when you're in love. The insane thing about them is that they don't just suppress appetite. They suppress wanting in general, including romantic craving another person. Something like 60 million people are now on anti-desire drugs. And it happened in the blink of an eye. I predict in the coming years we will see people on these drugs be less able to fall in love.

We will also see them fall out of love or be unable to feel it in relationships that were previously great. If your girlfriend or boyfriend started taking GOPs and your relationship started failing, there's a good chance. That's why. This sparked, I went back to, what was his name? Can you scroll up a bit? Dr. Shin Yong Yang.

The bravery of trying to pronounce that just now? On air. I think I was pretty close. You are the courageous. It did great. It's just a fucking dice roll. But he said it instantly. What is courage but taking action in fear?

I think this, I went back to his Twitter today to find this. Holy shit. He created a storm in his mentions of people coming after him for this. Bro, is he AI? Look at this profile picture. Oh, perhaps. I didn't look that deep. Why does he have a golden photo?

Is he dead? Interesting. He might be after that tweet because Big Pharma got him. No, I'm kidding. Running a plastic surgery clinic in Busan Korea, I bet he is busy. as fuck. Think about how many Koreans get plastic surgery, dude. I know, it's crazy. Oh, is he just anti-GLPs? He seems like he's very anti-GLPs. He's been hammering this for days and he said that a bunch of physicians that sell GLPs came after him because they're shareholders and it's all

part of the big scheme. But there's basically, I think this is rooted in theory and it makes sense theoretically if it acts on the same dopaminergic pathways. But the very concept of the fact that it doesn't just kill your appetite, it just kills your drive in general. It just gives you the dopamine fill without having to do anything. It works for more stuff than just food, which is pretty interesting. It seems to work on weed. It seems to work on behavioral addictions, alcoholism, gaming. Gambling. Yeah, gambling. So the fact that, like, what is limerence? What is attraction? You know, it's the same thing. It's this dropping of serotonin. It's massive increase in epinephrine, norephenephrine dopamine. It's just rush, rush, rush, rush, rush, rush,

like a very obsessed crush phase. There's a really interesting thing that's similar to that. PSSD post-S-S-R-I sexual dysfunction. So when people are on SSRIs, the sex drive can go down. But if you take them for a long enough period, or if you take them, especially during puberty and increasingly more young people are getting them prescribed when they're young, this can lock in for the rest of time. You can get genital numbing, the pathways that just allow you to feel what's going on during sex, they get muted, your drive gets. So there's all of these groups of people who are trying to re-ignite, re-kickstart. They're probably the ones that are watching the fucking BDSM port. They need to escalate. But yeah, the between that and

hormonal birth control for women driving down their sex drive and making them choose guys that they wouldn't be attracted to if they weren't on it, and GLPs and SSR, like it is, the sex recession is just not a surprise at all. It's just not a surprise. If you're having sex, you're in the minority. If Kirstama calls you up and says, We're going to make you chief sex officer. What do you do to improve the situation? Well, you can't pull people off SSRIs because some of them need it. And even if they don't need it, they're going to rebel.

So that wouldn't be good. Can't pull people off GLP-1s because it's also going to be pretty bad. And maybe they were going to die soon too. I think co-ed spaces, dating should be allowed at work. Obviously, there's always going to be some blast radius of side effects that happen. You're going to get in trouble because there's going to be some guy that doesn't take no an answer and is blowing through boundaries in a wrong way. But I think a big part of it is making guys braver, because guys were already pretty timid and approaching women now post Me Too. Everyone's

terrified. So trying to re-encourage men. I mean, you've heard me do this before, but like the Me Too instruction of men don't be pushy with women only landed with guys that were already nervous with women. The dudes that were blowing through boundaries and really need to, to have the Me Too revolution hit them, they just didn't take any, took no heed of it. These advice hyper responders, right? Could you explain that? It's one of my favorite ideas of yours, the advice hyperrespondent. So, advice doesn't land evenly. It sort of

distributes more like alcohol than it does medicine. The people who really need to take it are unchanged while the people that are already overdosing on it take too much. So think about the advice to just work harder. The lazy person who spends all of their time on the couch, they're unchanged. They don't even see it apply to them, whereas the person who already believes like they're not working hard enough,

that pushes them to work even more. Take more responsibility. The girl who believes that everything is already her fault decides that she needs to bear even more of the burden and carry bags that aren't hers. When the person who points the finger elsewhere just, again,

coasts past it unchanged. The instruction for men to open up and be more sensitive the existing sensitive guys who are already kind of opening their hearts far too much and crying at things that they shouldn't do, they take that as an indication that they're already emotionally insufficient, whereas the stoic boomer just, you know, no impact at all. So it's one of the problems with giving blanket coverage advice. It's why on the show and with everything that I write now,

I'm so much more hesitant about saying this works for everyone. It's almost always caveated with if this sounds like it applies to you, it probably does. But then you've got the advice hyper-responder thing, which is maybe it just confirms your fears. Maybe it already pushes you in the direction that you were going previously. So, yeah, it's a difficult world to navigate when there's lots of it. What's that, the Naval line?

If you take enough self-advice, take enough personal development advice, it all just nets out to zero. Because every maximum has an equal. I actually think that's useful in a way, because when you have two people that you deeply respect, that are completely the opposite. You almost go, it's like two things pulling you in that direction.

You kind of stay still as a result. Like one of my favorite stories of all time was, it's the greatest tennis match of all time, is where it's called. And it's Novakic versus Raphael Nadal. It goes on for five sets. I think it's about seven and a half hours. There's a rainbreak in between.

I think Nadal takes the lead, Djokovic takes it back. Nadal takes the lead. there's a tie break that's about 70 minutes long. One tie break is 70 minutes long. They finish the game and I think it's 1.40 a.m. And Jokovic just collapses. And there's a part, there's this amazing part in Jokovic's biography

where he's talking about discipline and he's talking about this is what it takes to win. And he's describing how in the aftermath of the game, he's sat in the dressing room, exhausted, and he's not had any sugar because he's been so disciplined and so focused because this is what it takes. He's not had any sugar in, I think it's three years leading up to this.

So he allows himself, like, a tab of chocolate on his tongue, and he lets it melt. And he says, I stopped then immediately, and I was back preparing for the next tournament. And what I love about this story, he didn't even chew it. It didn't even chew it. Just let it melt. Because this shows you, like, what it takes, the discipline. Meanwhile, Australian Open, three years later, Roger Federer wins, and he eats ice cream every single night. And it's like, oh, like, there's Djokovic.

there's Federer. And it's not that either of them were wrong. They kind of just did what worked for them. And that's why I kind of like collecting completely opposite piece of advice. So for example, Stephen King wrote his entire novel or all his work just raw dogging it. He would just turn up, cup of coffee, stare at a blank screen, make it happen. J.K. Rowling used a spreadsheet for the whole of Harry Potter. So it's just a handwritten spreadsheet I've seen. Yeah, there's a handwritten spreadsheet. So there's like just different approaches. And when you get to the top of any crap, You'll notice that you'll have. It's same with investing. Warren Buffett does almost only investing things he'll understand, reads everything. And who's the guy who does it all via algorithms? Like Jim Simons, like Renaissance Capital. Everything via algorithms, both billionaires multiple times over. It's really interesting going, oh, now I have to pick my own way. Well, it's so idiosyncratic, right?

You don't know what it is that's going to work for you. The only is the way, the one thing that they all have in common, often is that they have nothing in common, is that they've kind of done what worked for them. That's the one thing that they actually share. I think the underlying principle is compliance, that you have to find something that you can comply to, and that is why it's so idiosyncratic. Like, it has to be different,

because if you couldn't comply to it, you're not going to see the results. Like, consistency is super important. So if Jokovic had tried Nadal's approach, or Nadal had tried Federer's approach, that wouldn't have worked by design. Yeah. But wasn't it Jokovic that said,

I'd just like hitting the ball? Yeah. That seems like kind of countered. to the robotic approach that doesn't seem that fun. Well, my friend Billy has an amazing story about this. Just like hitting a ball one was when he was about to quit. He was like fifth in the world, spoke to his coach and gets into that whole lot. I just like winning the ball.

And then he goes on this terror and becomes number one. But the actual like discipline when it came to his diet was specific to him. Whereas Federer ice cream every night. Well, I had one to show on the advice, self-help advice thing. Did you see the Tim Ferriss blog? He posted, I think, today or yesterday. The auriboros of infinity. Yeah, exactly.

So Tim Ferriss, who's like helped a lot of people and been a big distributor and receiver of self-help, basically writes this post kind of essentially saying, got to be careful with self-help. But in a pretty personal way, I thought it was kind of an amazing post about like, if you go through this, the type of person who wants self-help, they want to be happy. And so they try to fix a problem to make themselves happy. But in order to fix the problem, they're constantly searching and trying to fix problems. It's got nuts. Yeah.

Horos has a nut. And so this post is amazing. It's basically just like the act of self-improvement can lead to that sort of infinite cycle of searching for problems to solve, to improve. And then you just sort of get addicted to the medicine in that way. How do you solve the infinite problem? Well, he actually says it in this. basically is like there's this like you need

both. If you just have radical acceptance of your situation, you go nowhere and you will ultimately not be happy with your own lack of progress in life. But if you only chase progress and never take acceptance to either weaknesses, flaws, imperfections in your life and just

be able to sit with them, then you'll constantly be moving and trying to make progress to make yourself happy, but you won't be happy ever. And so... That's such a... Scroll up, Jared. That's such a fucking good line. The older I get, the more I think that self-help can be a trap. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. I say this after around 20 years of writing self-help and a lifetime of consuming it.

Bro, this is the fucking, do you know there's two types of pivots that white podcasters make? Bless you. One is the God pivot and the other one. The other one is the renunciation of all of your life's work. Pivot. Yeah. It's the, turns out I was over-optimizing. The other one is, turns out that I just needed to give it all the Jesus.

Those are the only two, pick your direction. Pick your direction podcast, man. That's it. I chose the second one. Hey, I went to a youth thing. I heard the other night. Keegan told me. Yeah, I was there. I was praising, man.

No, it was nice. It's crazy. What is this? He went to a Tuesday night young adult service at a church at Austin Ridge Church. Young adults. Young adults. And didn't sneak in. It's permitted up until age 40.

You said I went to the kids thing. I was like, interesting. Well, I mean, is it wrong? I think everyone's our age. Yeah. I mean, I didn't ask for ID, but... How old are you again, 23? Correct.

I'm 35. You were right about what you said, by the way. I loved the... I love that line of thought you just brought up about the choosing which works for you in self-development. One of my favorite quotes is from Dr. Stan Efforting, compliance is the science. It's the same way that people get jacked in the gym

doing Mike Minter's low-volume approach versus someone going to the gym six days a week and doing 20 sets. If they just don't stop, they're going to get jacked. The only path of success is the one you just don't leave. Find the one that you enjoy. Find the one that you enjoy. So this is interesting.

This is another, I'll never get off X. What if I've been missing? This is exactly like, must have been how my dad felt when he discovered Facebook reels. And then I was like, why is dad still in the bathroom 45 minutes later? He's laughing at some bullshit meme. It's so funny. AI banned from answering legal and health care questions.

This is very interesting. I don't know what truth or validity there is to this because this is on X. But breaking, New York bill would ban AI from answering questions related to medicine, law, dentistry, nursing, psychology, social work, engineering, and more. And so there's this narrative of, I wish I had the, I had someone who captured the quote and basically said something where now we've gotten to the point where you can get for free with the experts were charging $400 an hour for and suddenly it's restricted and controlled upon. I don't know where the breadth and depth of this regulation and this bill.

will go. But it's an interesting thought that now readily available information is completely free or at most, what, $10 a month for Claude or chat GPT? And now suddenly there's this bill that was like, hold on. And someone commented like, WebMD's been giving people dog shit advice for 25 years now and they didn't ever get banned. Why is this suddenly an issue? Do you think it's because it's kind of person's giving it to you? I mean, you'll have done this before that your AI gets it wrong. And then you start. shouting at it. You try and discipline it. How could you have done that? You're like, okay, I just need to, you never did that with Google. You never said to Google, how could you have done this?

I think it's because it feels like you're talking to another human. The first thing now I always recommend is kind of three-factor authentication. So I'll never just speak to one LLM. I'll speak to three of them. I notice if I go via three, the odds of them making a mistake seems to go significantly lower. Going back to that New York thing, it feels like what are you going to do? You can't. How are you going to control that? New York are always crazy for regulation like this that never happens, never passes, or never actually actualizes. Even if they do, immediately, people are going to VPN.

We live in the world of the VPN. These regulations just are going to have absolutely no impact, apart from headlines. There's a billion users using chat GPT. It's like fistfighting the wind to be like, no, we're going to, we say no. Garden hose to a forest fire. Yeah, what are you going to do? When AI first kicked off, it was all the talk about hallucinations, and it's definitely gone a lot better.

And like the original line was never like speak to an LLM without first speaking to your doctor or your lawyer and now my line is like that's true but also never reverse. Yeah yeah, never speak to your doctor or your lawyer without first consulting an LLLLF. The amount of people I know personally

that have fixed health conditions that they've been working with a doctor for 10 to 20 years that chat GPT is just one shot it in one is incredible. You see that speaking of Polymarket polymarket took down the Willan nuclear war breakout this year betting market because there was way too much trading volume happening around what's going on in Iran. Wow. What is polymarket? You don't be on X? He just discovered X, George. 14 years. Mincally, I'm 68. I don't know. I don't know what polymarket is. Do you want to describe it,

Sean? I don't even know how to fucking say what it is. Yeah, it's basically a casino for everything. So you can go bet on end. That sounds dangerous. They call it a prediction market. It's kind of like the AOL livers mayonnaise like situation. So it's all. like, oh, sports betting, not legal. Polymarket betting on a sport event legal somehow. And so basically you can go, so you can bet on who's going to become president. You can bet on who's going to win this game this weekend, but you can also bet on anything. Like who's going to win or like, you know, will there be a strike? Will this guy be the president in a month? And so you can bet on basically any outcome. And the criticism of prediction markets early on was they become

assassination markets because you create this huge incentive to just, say, will this guy be around? And if I want money, it ends up becoming a bounty. It's just becoming a Deadpool. Yeah, exactly. So that's always been the criticism. And it's like, oh, there's probably other good things about it. Like, if you want to know the truth about how likely is something to happen, if you go to the New York Times or any, like, any just traditional news outlet, you know, the incentive of the writer is to write a juicy headline and then maybe have, they have their opinion. But Polly Market is basically only people with skin in the game betting on an outcome. So if you're not, you know,

you're wrong consistently, you will lose money. If you're right consistently, you'll have a bigger bank roll on polymarket. So over time, it becomes the closest thing to, like, accurate predictions. Did they get the election right in 24? Yep. Did they? And there's a cash payout for this? Like, you're actually gambling. It's just gambling. But it's gambling with a graph. It's an exchange. It's very important. It's gambling, but there's a graph on it, which makes it look a lot more like a market. Yeah. What's your kind of take on it? Do you think, how do you think it's going to play out of the next few years? unstoppable. I think it's going to be people love gambling, people love predicting things,

people need the information. I mean, it's growing like crazy right now. I don't know if you saw there's actually a funny story. I think I have it on my sheet if you don't pull it up, but there was this man and woman apparently getting divorced. This might be fake news AI, by the way. The story's almost too good to be true, but they're getting divorced. The man worked part-time in a warehouse, but suddenly started driving like a BMW and the wife was like, can you, she asked her lawyer, like, can you just, do you have the way to check? Like, how could he afford this car? And basically he did like a forensic audit and subpoenaed like kind of subpoenaed his digital

wallets. And they basically found that this guy had made $3 million over the last year with a pretty much 100% hit rate on his polymarket bets. And what he had realized there, and so she was now going to be entitled to three million, half of $3 million. But the guy fighting it in the courtroom was like, well, this is not an asset. It's a strategy. I'm running a strategy that's allowing me to win.

And so the judge was like, okay, what's your strategy? And he basically was like, well, I just realized that the Las Vegas sports books would update and the market I was betting on wasn't updating fast enough. And so I would just bet the new odds. Even if the thing didn't happen, it was going to always match the new odds. And so he's like, I was just arbitraging that. And so he had like, they audited his bets and it was just all green, basically. And so there's a lot of people that have found these little arbitrages.

Like people are sending people to, let's say, sporting event because they can relay what happened faster than the broadcast and faster than the database updates. I swear this was happening in Asia with soccer matches. Yeah. I swear this was happening there and someone was going over and sending it back. Yeah. It's like if you ever read Flash Boys, there was like a whole like quant trading thing where

if you put your server close to the New York Stock Exchange server, you could get your trade in before the guy who was doing it through a, like a normal server. And they're like putting fiber through mountains to like shave off pennies off of every trade essentially. Wow. So do gambling laws apply then universally to polymarket? When it came out, it's a gambling affiliate. So we can't do it in Georgia.

There's basically a loophole. So prediction markets are not considered gambling. They're like commodities contracts. So it's like betting on the future price of like soybeans. So they're regulated by the same people who do like the commodities markets. And so that's how they've been able to get around this. Everything. Everything.

World events. There is no. Oh, it's so much smaller than world events. Like what color? is the gatorade going to be that gets dunked over the head of the coach at the Super Bowl? Anything. And we're calling this, it's called Poly Market and it's, it's market. This is like when someone says, what do you do for work?

And they go, I'm a sanitation engineer. He's a fucking trash guy. It's just like, this is the same. Branding, branding. Every bit of life essentially becomes insider trading if you take it further enough. Wow. Just an interesting question. During the halftime show, they were like, oh, is he going to play this song?

what, there was like 400 backup dancers. And so it was very, they were getting caught because it's like, suddenly this wallet comes out, puts 32 grand on this one obscure market. And it's like, guess what, he was a backup dancer? Did you see the guy who stood outside of the stadium in the days preceding it, timing how long the national anthem was going to be? And he was out there with a stopwatch. He videoed it himself with a start, because they're rehearsing, rehearsing, rehearsing. And then puts the bed on and wins a fucking shit ton of money. Because he knew exact.

And that was legal because he was outside. It was public information. And he's one of those radio telescope listening device things, like tuning in. And sure enough, we need a close-up of just his face during this discussion. The whole discussion, we take a picture-in-picture cam of his face. Okay. Each of those explanations. Okay, so polymarket?

Did you guys see the Super Bowl streaker guy, his YouTube channel? No. He put meta-ray bands on, right? He did. So this guy This video is incredible I don't watch many YouTube videos But I watch all 30 minutes of this video

Hang on how many He's been training She's fucking training So this is just doing agility Drew No no it's so funny So this guy did it before And he's like I'm gonna do it again

23 days and this is basically a training montage Of like a bank heist But it's just streaking at the Super Bowl Wow So he's doing agility drills And he shows pictures of the security cars Which you know they look like event security And he's like, you think they can stop me?

As he's doing like a shuttle drill on the bottom field. This is brilliant. This is like he's training for the combine. Yeah, exactly. And so he, and then if you skip forward, he's like on Seatkeek, looking at the like 3D images of which seat is optimal to jump up. Like, how high is the rail? How deep is the fall?

And then he has a decoy. So he has his friend do it with him. The friend jumps first. Everybody goes to tackle him. And then he jumps second and gets a free run. This is the run. That's the friend. Oh, so he goes second while they're...

Oh, no way. He said the decoy. And then this guy, you think you can stop me? Shake and bake. And then he's like, uh-oh. In the medas, get lost. This is like Madden, right? In the medas is so...

He gets taken down by an actual player. That's unreal. What's the penalty for something like that? A ticket? Because it's a misdemeanor? No, he goes to jail. So he goes to jail for the night, but he knew that because it happened last year.

So he's like, I got to remember to piss before. I got to eat because I don't want to, you know, like he's like planning for his jail visit. And at the end, he basically responds like it's a GTA because the footage comes back when he's leaving the jail. And all of this was to promote his like stock tips platform or something. But he got like over a million views on this. He could have bet on yourself on Polymarket. He did. He did.

He did. He knew what the fine was and then he bet on himself. Yeah. And he did it. Odds of a streaker at the Super Bowl. He didn't want to like confirm it, but they're like pretty sure. him and his friends He made a crazy bag off this.

Isn't that crazy? Isn't it like just insane what YouTube will, it's like, show me your incentive. I'll show you your outcome. It's like, YouTube is basically like, do the craziest shit. Yeah. So then people do exactly the craziest shit.

The fact that he'd try and phrase unreal. Did you guys see this? You're on X, but you're not on, are you on TikTok? Yes. Okay. He is TikTok. There is a TikTok that I thought was just super funny.

It's Tom Cruise. There's this Tom Cruise. There's this guy invites him over to his house. He basically, Hires the Tom Cruise and Personator, but not for a party or a corporate event. Just come over to my living room. And so, I don't know. Have you guys seen this?

He's, yes. Put the sound on because the voice is amazing. This is so good. Hey, what's up? Woo! Respect the cock and team. Yeah, I guess just like whatever. So it's super awkward, right?

Woo. He. Oh, Carter, Chris. Wingney for the left. What's back that? Tom. Hey, good to see. Hey, my dad's reply.

You don't know what it's like to be out here for you. It's that I could never phone to tell you about to just, help me, help you, help me, help you. What are we talking about here? What have you done? Tom, we have the best day of my life. Just going to keep getting better. It's an honor to meet you.

Good to keep compelled. Good to see you, Dad. What are you talking about? What are you working on, Tom? I'm working on a ton of things, a lot of stuff. You know, flying inverted, you know, buzzing the tower, all that stuff. It's really happy to be here. You ever had a new tonic?

I got to read the ingredients first. Yeah, I like all these things, yeah. Did you put ketamine in this new tonic? Roryo. Am I in a K-hole right now? I studied Raleo. Healthian, one of my favorites. How's the church?

Church is good. Church is good, really giving me everything I need. Oh, sure. That happens sometimes. I'm I'm just composed myself So how's everyone doing? So much better than I was five minutes

to come to leave. How far down the rabbit hole have we gone? Let's go deep, okay? I feel like I'm in a fucking fever dream. I feel like I'm in a fever dream. Anything I feel. By the way, if you'd been a mass shooter, we would have all been dead.

I have no defensive capabilities at all. You didn't even, yeah. Holy shit. You need a tighten security in this place. How did he? get in here? Have you ever been any questions from me? Have you ever met the actual Tom? Oh, I did. Yeah? Yeah. How was that? Tom Ramon. It was very exciting. He was on the way. Well, you know, it was two in the morning. I was with some friends having drinks and he was having

dinner with like a big group of people. And I wanted to buy him a bottle of champagne as like a way to commemorate after an impersonating him for 10 years at time. Just, you know, meeting him for the first time. And the waiter shot me down, said, have you been to the chat Tom Armon, anyone? No, in L.A.? Iconic, iconic landmark hotel. But now it's like a different kind of place, like a special like-so-house kind of membership club. But tried to buy him a bottle of champagne. The waiter shot me down and said, you'll be banned and I'm going to be fired. So I just couldn't approach Tom Cruise.

But my girlfriend at the time said, there's no way in hell you're leaving here tonight without meeting him. So she was really adamant about it. So he leaves two in the morning. I'm having drinks with my friend getting more progressively more drunk, right? And everyone's gone. It's just Jimmy, my friend Jimmy, myself and Donna in the garden of the chateau. It's a restaurant. And she ends up leaving to go to the bathroom.

And Jimmy gets a phone call from Donna saying, Tom Cruise is waiting for me in the ballet area. Like literally waiting for me. I couldn't believe it. So I get up out of my chair, a sprint through the whole lobby and the whole hotel. I get there and he's there with Jeremy Redder about to get on his motorcycle at 2 in the morning. And we had this really nice moment. We shook each other. It's an honor and privilege to get you.

complete wish of you're trying. He's very handsy. Close talker. He's hands. He's hands. He's, you know. Yeah. It was very exciting.

I didn't go to sleep that night. It was definitely a wonderful experience. Yeah. Tom, we appreciate you being a special guest. Oh, absolutely. Episode one. I've got to stay in my wrong. Wow.

I'm going to back off. If you need anything for me, just let me know, you know, if you need to learn about, you know, logic and reasoning, I'm here for you, okay? What a pleasant. Woo. I love me, too. Hey. Bye, child.

Beach volleyball tomorrow at 8 a. Okay. Sure. Good job. It's even the right height. Bad fucking play. I'm going to get the close up to crying. Where do we go from here?

How do you think audio listeners feel? The big question. The big question. Get a studio, they said. It won't drive you insane, they said. The mass shooter line is spot on. Had to do something special. We were completely, if that guy had had a side.

on. He was in Chris's ear in three seconds after the door open. Yeah, he moves fast, hey. Damn. I was telling the guys, I was like, I want to do this.

I think it would be fun. Just do something different. And they were like, like, you know, we don't want to throw Chris off his vibe for the first episode and I was like, I don't know, think I'm going to do it. I think we're going to do it anyway.

I think that's part of the vibe. Holy fucking shit. It might work, but just don't touch Chris and he went straight for the handjack. I was like, oh, fuck. Rugby tackles me to the ground. Jesus fucking Christ, dude. Oh, okay.

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To get you back for that, Sean, what's your heritage? Indian. Indian. Interesting that you say that. Seamless transition. Seth Steph Stevens Davidowitz, ex-Saintiff, Google. wrote a very famous book called Everybody Lies. Analyzed Google Autocomplete Search Frequency Data for phrases beginning with, My Husband Wants.

Across the world, queries are relatively common. My husband wants sex all the time. My husband wants a divorce. My husband wants a threesome. I searched earlier on today. My husband wants a gai-kation for some reason turned up quite high. But in India, in India, the most common completion was my husband wants me to breastfeed him.

This pattern appeared far more frequently in India than any other country. In India, searches about breastfeeding a husband appear roughly as often as searches about breastfeeding a baby. Wow. We make a comment, Sean. Bring her through. You can play this game. Bonnie, come on down. I think the most shocking part about that was after you relayed that bomb drop of a statistic,

I look at Sean and he goes, yeah. Of course. It makes a lot of sense. And the sky is blue. So if you look at a map, Pornhub release all of that. They've got a good data science team, which you might not expect, actually, but Pornham have got a great data science team. If you look at the most popular types of porn across the world,

varies country to country, the absolute out. outlier is India with breastfeeding porn. And I'm fascinated to work out why. I think maybe it's something to do with the sort of overbearing mother thing, redemption arc, some fucking Freudian shit going on, or something to do with cows and milk. Sacred. I don't know. Yeah.

I like how you're like, explain your people's behaviors. Correct. That's it. You speak for the billion Indians. Well, I think it's basically our version of the stepsister genre, right? Like that's basically the, I think, in America, it's like, it could be a man and woman hook it up. But what if she was his step sister or stepmom? It's like, there's always like a step, whatever.

In India, we don't really get divorced. So there's not really a step. There's not really a step thing. So you just go straight to the mom. That's my explanation. Straight to the source. Right. It's the closest thing that you can get to acceptable.

Isn't there like the Freudian thing? Like you, you know, there's like desire for the mom or whatever. Yeah. In early childhood. Speak for yourself, Sean. Not that I, not that I have the experience, but in early childhood. The Freudian thing is that there's like, that's your first attraction. I was reading, I'm reading the Elon biography and they were talking about, because Elon's had pretty like terrible choice in women or at least like for himself.

Like the relationships have not worked out. So also had quite a big sample size. He's the common denominator. Yeah, fair enough. But like he was with Amber Heard and it was like a pretty toxic relationship. But they stayed together. They got back together. He was with, he was with, I think, Toul O'Reilly.

They got married and he proposed in seven days. And then they got married, divorced at the divorce proceeding. they start making out and tell the judge they don't they're going to do go ahead with the divorce but then they move back in together so he's done some like questionable things and one uh one of his wives basically said like he's attracted to like the abuse because his father was so abusive and it's basically like he there's something about like love and the intensity of a toxic abusive relationship that like fuse somewhere in his body so when he meets a woman who's intense and they get into like a toxic relationship, like he has that anchor to love somehow, parental love in some weird way.

So I found out some interesting stuff this week about insecure attachment. So avoidant attachment, fearful, avoidant and anxious attachment. There's different types of attachment styles. And about 50% of the population are securely attached. About 20% are anxiously attached, about 20% are avoidant attached, sorry, 5% of fearful avoidant, which is both about 25% are anxious avoidant. What you think is most people that have an insecure attachment style, they're not happy with it. They want to change it. They would much sooner not be pushing people away that they want to get close to or worried that someone's going to leave them, that maybe they feel like they're overreacting to their absence too much. So I was interested to work out

what the evolutionary advantages are that are conferred on people by being anxious or avoiding. And you'd think, well, there have to be some. Anxiously attach people, they have much keener sense, of paying attention to small differences, changes in the moments, changes in environment. And there was a great study done where they brought people into a setting and they'd already done an attachment style quiz prior so they understood the different attachment styles in the room.

And then a computer would slowly blow a little bit of smoke out as if there was a fire that might be about to start. The fascinating is the anxiously attached people were the ones who noticed the smoke first. But the avoiding the attacking. people were the first ones out the door every single time. And the argument here is that the anxiously attached people are able to pay attention to small changes. They're the ones that will be scrutinizing, they're hypervigilant for stuff. But they'll think, should we, do we leave that tiger? Like,

do we think it's getting closer? Is it? The avoidant people are like, I'm fucking out of here. And everybody then follows after them. So one of the cool things that the avoidantly attached people have is a competitive advantage. They work better on their own. They're decisive. But They're really good at being in calamity because they're able to actually partition a bit of their brain off. So if you were an EMT, if you were dealing with some horrendous car accident, some car wreck, and you just need to get the job done, you almost need to sort of put one bit of your brain off to a side. You need to be like, okay, compassion. It's not time for you now, whereas a more anxiously attached person would struggle somewhat more to do that. And I think what's cool about it is we don't ever love.

we tend to not look so much at the advantages conferred by stuff that we feel are shortcomings. And this is a really good example here of, sure, maybe you wish that you weren't worried that your partner is going to leave you all the time, but this is why you're amazing at marketing copy or at paying attention to brand. For instance, if you were a police unit, you would want the SWAT guys to be avoidant and the detectives to be anxious. And it's just, I think it's really interesting to think about how different psychological makeups give you both benefits and costs. And that's a cool study about it. I like that. The secure ones

just stay. The secure people are the worst. Secure people by far are the way. They've got the best relationships, but they're the ones that don't notice the thing and would be burned alive. Yeah. It's like a gossip, right? Like gossip is seen as a negative thing to do. Wow, that's like, that's a trait you should try to get rid of. It's like, well, why does, why did gossip survive evolutionarily? It's well, it's actually incredibly important. I can't vet 150 different people in a new tribe. So we need gossip to quickly spread about each person's reputation for me to like survive in any large group.

So gossip is actually incredibly important if you're going to be in any sort of social tribe. But it's seen as this like really negative behavior that you should stop doing. You know what I mean? You know what venting is? So it's somebody that is able to couch gossip under concern for another person. So it's an effect in psychology called the bless her heart effect. and it really only happens among women, not so much among men. So they brought women into a lab, and they had Confederate, as they're called,

so the person that's a part of the study come in, although they didn't know it. Two versions. First version, the woman is dressed very provocatively and looks sort of well put together, quite sexy. In the second version, she looks like a mess, like not a sexual rival at all. So how much of a sexual rival is this particular woman? That's what they were controlling for. And in both versions, this woman comes in and says,

I slept with two guys last night and I don't really know what's going on. And like, I'm not really too sure about this thing. And then later on, she would leave the room. And what you find is that the woman that she said it to, if she was dressed provocatively, more likely says, tells somebody else. They gossip about what's going on. But the type of gossip is what calls it the bless her heart effect. The type of gossip is couched under concern.

So, George, I'm just so worried. I'm really, really worried about Christina. she's just sleeping with all of these guys and I'm so worried that she's going to get hurt and the reason that you do that is that if anybody ever pulls you up on it, it's like, well look, Christina I was just, like, I'm sorry, I'm just worried about you. I was looking out for you. I'm just so worried

about you and implicitly it says me, right, I would never. Right, no, I wouldn't, that, I could never, that would never be what I would do. Also, I'm pro-social, look at how much I'm looking out for, but also, she's up to two fucking guys guys last night, by the way. And yeah, it's just the bless her heart

effect gossip thing is pretty fucking And what do they say about the other woman? They were less likely to say it. It's shared at all. They were less likely, yeah, because she looked like she was down on her luck. She didn't look like a sexual rival. It's a enforcement mechanism for intracultural competition among women. That's the way it works.

Didn't she have a lady on recently? You had a discussion about malicious nature within females? A full two hours of it. Yeah, Danny Solikowski. She's a beast. But the fact that the Internet hasn't got angry at that episode just shows how much female privilege. there is. But she can say all of that. Everyone goes there and finds all of the problems with it.

Yeah, it was, it's fascinating, dude. It's like endless. This is just a big promotion and masterclass on how to hang on to all your traumas and actually don't change. No, stay avoided. Stay anxious. Life's better this way. Don't do the work to become secure. What if a computer gets set on a fire? It's very important. You need to hang on to that thing that made you not have committed relationship so you don't die in a fire. Of course, naturally. Time has flown by during this podcast, which brings me on to my point about time. The king of transitions. Amazing segue.

Bill Collins' grandson is just on it right now. Mr. Stallone's stepson. You're so perceptive of the environment. Are you anxiously attached? There needs to be an award for worse transition. So there's a guy called Albert Hine in around about the 1880s, and he is a geologist who's climbing upper mountain. and he falls 60 feet, right?

So from the laws of physics, a 60 feet fall is one, two, boom, and you're dead. So he, but now he recalls what his experience was like of falling. So he falls, and he immediately thinks, as he's falling down, he thinks, should I take my glasses off or should I keep them on? Should I drop my cane or should I basically cry for help? And he goes, oh, I wonder what it's going to be like when people realize that I'm on this trip with, that I'm dead. should I let them know, like, this is happening? Then he starts thinking about the lecture he's going to give next week and how they're going to all be there and go, oh, he's dead. Then his entire life flashes before his eyes. Two seconds. And he can't, what would be interesting about the story,

you'd immediately go, well, this is quackery. This is like him potentially making this thing up post hoc. But he then spent his entire life, like chatting to other people that have had this experience of falling off things from builders to different climbers. And lots of them mirror the exact same thing, that just as you're about to die, your dilation of time slows down so much. It's one big thing I've been writing about of late around how do we go about slowing down the speed of time or changing time. And if you could find it on my Twitter, Jared, he searched George Mack Janet's Law about how time compresses with age. And it's kind of this idea that you've experienced, according to this theory, which I don't think is necessarily true.

but according to this theory, you've lived half of your wife by around about the age of 20. Experientially. Experientially, particularly because children, the reason why time so slow as a child is everything is new. So that's one of the arguments of how you slow down time is, for example, as we've been here, time has slowed down to some extent because we've been doing something new or you're in a new environment. But by the time, you've been doing it 300 times. Things go so much faster. But I'm interested, I don't know if you guys have actually thought through of like how, as you get older, do you go about, slowing down time and not just waking up.

85. Yeah. I have shit. Everything went. What do you do? We'll get back to talking in just one second, but first, tell me if this sounds familiar. You train regularly, you eat reasonably well, maybe you even supplement. You feel fine, but you're just kind of going off vibes.

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and modern wisdom at checkout. I mean, this sounds incredibly rudimentary and it's such a cliche take, but I think it's cliche because it's true. Yeah, there's a reason that cliches exist is I think things feel slower when you make an intention to over-romanticize them. Like how one of the things I heard a friend say is, is how good can it get? How good God can it get? Like the cup of coffee, how damn good is this cup of coffee? And it forces you into the present over something seemingly minuscule. But if that coffee was bad, you'd notice it, right? Because you want a decent cup of coffee.

And then if it's horrendous, you get pissed off. So why not notice, wow, this is the perfect temperature. It's just bitter enough, but a little sweet. And then you look up and you go, wow. And the sun's out this morning. And it feels warm. And I find that when I bring perceptive or sensory experience into the present moment and just romanticize your life, as the cliche would call,

everything feels more novel. We were having cheeseburgers the other night. I'm just like, how fun is this? You know, I got to watch my friend work out materially so excited about, and now we're eating a damn good cheeseburger. How good can it get? So that literally what I wrote about was three things. So like the original story that's part of it is,

it comes at it from a different angle, but it's essentially this boy called Henry, which I think I've told on the Christmas show, but just for people who haven't heard it before, Henry is like five years old. He's playing that side on the streets of Connecticut, and a cyclist doesn't see him, clatters into Henry, knocks him unconscious. And his life becomes a bit strange.

He starts having seizures. But by the age of 27, he's having 20 seizures per day. And he's desperate to fix it. He's trying everything that you can. And this is during, like, peak experimental brain surgery. So he goes forward, volunteers, and wakes up, and he basically gets delivered some good news, some bad news, some awful news by life. So the good news is that the surgery is largely fixed his epilepsy.

The bad news is that he won't remember the good news because of the awful news. And the awful news is that he's destroyed his ability to form the memories. So Henry lives from the age of 27 to 82 the same day. Because he only can remember things in two minutes increments and then it disappears. So he meets his psychiatrist for the first time every day. But the most disturbing thing about Henry was he would look in the mirror each day and be confused why the reflection looks so old. Because he's just forgotten everything.

He always thought he was 27, but now I'm 65, but now I'm at 7.2. He had some long-term memories. like he was anchored at a certain time. Exactly, before 27. So it basically begs the question you have like all the Brian Johnson's of the world, which I think are great, like the longevity people, but very few people talk about time longevity.

Because in theory, Henry lived a long life. He lived till 82. Or did he die at 27? And it's such an important part of memory. And the three things that I concluded when I was looking at the research for it, there's a great book called Time Expansion, dilution, I believe,

that goes into this more in depth. But number one is novel experiences. So doing new things. Number two is around, both two and three are kind of what you said rolled into two different things. So two is like trying to create stories. So what's interesting is you don't remember your social media feed from yesterday. You can barely remember a tweet from yesterday despite the fact you scroll past so many novel things, but you can remember a movie from two years ago because we like character arcs.

We like purpose. We like emotion. We like a buildup. So thinking about your kind of day or life into a story. like what would the hero do next? And then the third one was very closely tied to what you said to, which is like this Japanese concept, which I'm going to butcher, but called like Ichigoichi,

which is essentially this idea that every moment, even if it is a recurring moment, because you're not going to be able to novel max every single day. But even right now, we're all this exact age that we are in the studio for the first time. So whenever you look for the specific details exactly like you did there, time itself does begin to slow down. It's amazing. The novelty thing is such a huge part.

I mean, I wrote about this seven years ago, badly, and then again, 18 months ago, slightly better. And the two things, novelty and intensity, were what I sort of landed on. And you're right, it is really, really important. People don't want to miss their lives. Objectively arrive, but subjectively not feel it. And this thing, this sort of sense of stuff rushing past.

I think it's something that's particularly felt by people that optimizes, because by virtue of optimizing, you find what works and then you rinse and repeat it. That's what routine is. And the problem with that is it actually compresses time together. My best, my favorite example of this is your drive to work. Your drive to work is something that you've done 500,000, 2,000 times throughout your life, throughout that one job, that one office. Can you tell me anything unique about that drive? It's compressed into basically a single memory, except for that one day when it was icy and the car skidded backward. Well, what's that? That's novelty and intensity. It's also called the holiday effect.

Why is it that holidays seem to stretch out? I think about this trip I took to Africa. It's nearly a decade ago with the next girlfriend. And I can remember the squeak of the leather shoes of the porter and the ornithology book, this weathered ornithology book that he was carrying. And the steps down, the steps were rickety. And he, the bellboy offered to carry my bag, but I felt bad. So I took, I can't remember the fucking 16 digit number on the front of my credit card that I've had for fucking three years. Why? Well, because novelty and intensity. And the more that I think people can just try and ratchet that into their lives.

And it's strange because if you have too much novelty, you end up with chaos. And you don't actually gain any of the benefits of consistency and reliability. Yeah, there's no compounding because the environment changes so quickly that you can't get any in there. Right. But, yeah, that you've hit on something I think super important. Well, it's cool because, like, who lives it? Because, you know, I see all this advice, right, whether it's on X or it's in podcasts, and it's like, you know, here's a study or here's a quote I love. But it's like, okay, are you doing this?

How are you doing that? What do you do? Like, I like your burger example. And then if you could find somebody in your life that actually lives that way, it's like a game shooter. Because super contagious once you just notice the delta. Like, if I sit next to you and I notice that you sit differently or that you eat differently when we go. order. It's very apparent to me when my peers do something different than me. And so for me, like my trainer is a guy who basically is like, imagine never having listened to any of the

podcasts and self-help at all, but you just did all those things. That's basically him. These guys, like, I've seen him probably five days a week for the last five years. And it shows. And also he, I've never seen him have a bad day. Like not even like in a bad mood. I could be late. He can get in a fender bender. Never. Never seen this guy rocked. And so that's kind of like seeing a billionaire but for mood. It's like, what? I don't know what that is, but that's incredible. You have a lot of good mood.

How do you do this shit? And he tells me, because I've noticed, like, what does he do differently? He's always playing little mind games, little mini games. So I've told the story once before on our podcast, but people have come up to me like years later mentioning like, oh, I love that story about your trainer. And it's this DMV story. I don't know if I've never told you, but he had to go to the DMV. So he comes to my house and he's like, he's like, dude, he's like, today's the day. I'm like, what's, what's today?

He goes, I've been driving for the last two years with an expired license. And it's been this low underlying anxiety every time I drive of what if I get pulled over. I've got this expired license. And he's like, I've just been avoiding going to the DMV. Because DMV is terrible. He goes, so today I did something different. Basically, he went on Yelp. And he went to go look, where is the DMV?

And you know, it has like, Google has like star ratings or Yelp has like ratings. So DMV is basically like the lowest rated venue on Yelp. And so it's like one and a half stars. and he goes, how do I have a five-star DMV experience? So he just asks himself a new question, creates a game out of it. And so he's like, okay, he's like, I can't go there and expect them to give me five-star hospitality. He's like, I'm going to go as a five-star customer.

So he'll just change his mind saying, he's like, I will go as a five-star customer, and I think I'll have a five-star experience. So he goes, he parks, he walks in with a little pep in his step. He holds the door. He's not trying to rush in line. He's like, you guys all go. Yeah, yeah, go. I'll be behind you.

and one of the women that he led in, actually she was working there, she was just doing a shift change. He's joking around with her, sort of flirting with her on the way in, this sort of like big old lady at the DMV. And so she's like, what are you here for, honey?

And he's like, I've got to get my license. I've been driving without, you know, expired for two years. And like, today's the day. It's going to be amazing when I get this license. I'm going to feel so good. And she goes, you know what?

Come with me. Takes him front of the line, gets him the thing. He's supposed to do a driving test. She just signs off on it. Gets him his license. He ends up having this five-star experience at the DMV, which was kind of like running the four-minute mile or something.

It's like this, like, if you can have a great experience of the DMV, you can have a great experience in any condition, right? Like, I don't need to achieve X to have great experience. And so his five-star DMV has stuck with me, because now you can play that game, pretty much any, I'm going through TSA right now. How do I, like, how do I have five-star? What if I was James Bond and how I kind of smoothly went through this versus just dragging ass like I normally do?

And I found that that's like novelty without being like, today I need to go. on this new hike, new vacation, because that's hard to do, and most people can't do it. What I like is he brought the novelty into the everyday, and you become sort of invincible when you do that. He romanticized his DMV experience.

Correct. That's exactly what he did. Which is different to you who tries to romance your DMV experience. Yes, I hit on the lady who's giving me the license. And it works. Every scene.

My man. Come on, now. You know what, that's a beautiful, to make it practical, that is a beautiful example of something you alluded to, to earlier, which I think is a summation of what you so beautifully wrote about, which is being childlike. In the Bible, God calls us multiple times to have childlike faith to be like children and everything

that we do. And somewhere along the way, we grow up and we start taking everything so seriously. And you said earlier, you said, you know, just wait. When you have a kid and everything's novel, you can spin this. And they're like, whoa. Yeah. Because everything is. That was Disneyland right there. Exactly. That's like, that's why I think it's so important in the Bible is the ultimate self-help book. it's such good advice. Just be childlike in everything that you do and that pulls you into the present moment. Huberman did a minisode recently on the importance of play in longevity and how as we get old, we just stop playing and stop moving in that way and we die from that. And in my life lately, I've just been like the curious six-year-old inside of me again. What did we do in the park the other day?

We played. We threw the ball. We walked past, I know that you used to have a basketball in front of you on your plot. We did a pod and he was just a mini leather basketball. I always have this little ball and he's just tossing it around. And we were walking through the park and some dog must have just left

a relatively good condition tennis ball. Like, okay, we're turning around and spend 15 minutes just unloading on our rotator cups. I'm still... You hear that? Yeah, what was that? Was that audible?

It was like a full on. It was such a just little kid, young boy moment because at the same time Chris and I are walking and we both see the ball and I bend down as I'm bending down Chris goes, yep.

And we didn't say anything. Yep. And we immediately started playing toss. Yep. And just burned 20 minutes. It was just so fun. I have this phrase, sorry, I have this phrase called

dogs, kids, and dead people. And it's like, what is that? It's basically that's who I want to spend time with and learn from because you want to learn about like unconditional love,

be with a dog, right? A dog is like loyal, it's a great friend, it's a great pet, right? Then kids are just like childlike wonder about everything. and the dead people is like, rather than spending my time consuming tweets and TikToks that people put 20 seconds into, it's like, this guy put 20 years of his life into this book. Like, go hang with the dead.

You'll, you know, it'll be better for you. And so just hanging, changing who I hung with kids, dogs are dead people was like a pretty big game changer for, you know, overall enjoyment. Who's your favorite dead person that you discovered? Who's my favorite dead person I discovered? Right now, I'm hanging, right now, like, I told you I was reading this like Stoicism book. And so, which is like, whatever, pretty cliche. But there's a guy who wrote a book that basically summarizes like,

here's what Aristotle was saying, here's the soccer just saying, then this guy was all about suffering to prove himself. So he kind of lived a pretty tough life. This guy was doing this and they exiled him at this island. It's basically like a walk through all the stoics. And it's pretty good. It summarizes all of them and like the slight nuances of the different schools of thought that they had. Because they were basically all influencers.

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Yeah, I mean we spoke about stoicism a few times where on some reverse. Reverse. where, like, so for example, a lot of the time, what I've noticed for people that get into stoicism, they almost have, like, reverse stoicism. So when things go well, they'll use the stoicism to keep it in. And then when things go out, they just lose the shit. So it's like, now you've, like, all of the downside and none of the upside. All of the downside and, correct. Correct. You've insulated yourself from getting too excited. Are you saying they're doing it wrong? Or are you saying the philosophy tells you to do that? I think it's a little bit of both. Like, my dad always gave me this great piece of

advice, which is whenever something goes well, try and think how down you'd be if it didn't go well. and at least enjoy it that much. So even if you are going to have your downs, at least have your ups. And I guess my concern with stoicism at times, it's a little bit, I don't know, it's a little bit dry, or it makes people a little bit more numb,

which I don't particularly like. There's a great speaking, I think he's dead now. He wrote this in the 50s. Have you heard of masturbation? Well, no, no, no. I'm assuming you pronounce that. I say it a little differently.

As an Indian man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's when you watch a video of a mom with it. Bring him in, bring him in. Bring in the mother. We've got an active shoe done. So basically, he's a guy called Ellis, and he had, it's like rational emotive behavioral therapy.

So it's like a spin-off of cognitive behavioral therapy. And essentially his idea, I think it's lovely, is that he basically has like a very, very small rule. Because everything's fair game, apart from you can never use the word must to yourself. Or like, this has to happen. And what I've actually realized with a lot of things with myself is, You almost, because you try so hard and you put so much pressure on yourself that you end up, there's two things.

There's either choking, which is when you overthink, when you think too much in the moment, like an athlete that can't throw the basketball shot, or there's, what's the opposite of choking? It's clutch, like coming through into clutch? No, there's panicking. So panicking is when you don't think at all and you just do something reckless. So like scuba divers that will just grab the oxygen when they know they shouldn't do it, they can see themselves. but they do it. So overthink and underthink. Exactly.

So R.EBT, essentially this mustabation idea, he essentially has this concept which you can basically say anything about yourself, desire anything, but never say, oh, this podcast has to go well today, has to go well today or else. Because as soon as you do that, you activate the fight or fight response. Right. And you notice a lot of people that are type A people that probably listen to this sort of shit, it's often like an extreme statement.

So you can still say, I really want this to go well. It's not like stoicism where it's like, whatever happens, happens, none of it matters, because you kind of lose a little bit of the edge. But you just, I really want this to go well today. And even if it doesn't, I'll be okay. And it's just that little bit at the edge that just gets it in that perfect like goldilocks zone between the two, which I think's missed by stoicism. It's almost a degree of surrender behind the intention.

Surrendering to the experience and being fully open to whatever comes up, but hoping it goes a certain way. my friend Nick Komedina has this great quote. We live in a universe that what we run from chases us and what we chase runs from us. So if you're constantly, if we sit down, like, God, this has to be a bangor. It has to be a profound conversation.

It would be the opposite of all of those things. And Tom Cruise probably never would have walked in. But we just sat down here to shoot the shit and it's been a blast. It's a degree of surrender with an intention or hope that it goes a certain way, but also giving into the experience. I did this emotions retreat with Joe Hudson in September, and it was 12 hours a day for

seven days and a flower farm in Santa Rosa of just very, very deep, very difficult emotional work. And you had to write an intention before you went in. And this intention would go on this huge piece of paper and we'd be writing loads of stuff and it was on the wall and everybody could see what it was that you'd written throughout the week. And some people's intentions were really big and really grand. And I felt so, my, felt really stupid. I was kind of ashamed of Mike's. It felt so small and it felt so silly. And by the end of the week, I'd just completely fallen in love with it and it was my favorite definition of safety now with emotional safety of feeling like you're enough of feeling like you belong a feeling like you're supposed to be there and it was i'm okay

no matter what happens and that sense of this goes well this goes badly the power goes out it doesn't tom cruise comes in bonnie blue like whatever goes on i'm okay no matter what happens and just that again that sort of sense of relaxing it's a little bit of jana the meditation technique that me and georgia you're playing with at the moment. But on the good luck, bad luck thing, I came across a quote that I'd already seen a bunch and I wrote about it this week. Comac McCarthy, you never know what worst luck your bad luck has saved you from. And there's this line, I told this story to George this week and he was able to work out who it was, but it's fucking fantastic. So in the mid-90s, there was a single mother living in near poverty in Edinburgh. When she left her first marriage,

it wasn't a quiet parting. She's discreet. the relationship as abusive, she fled to Portugal with her baby daughter and a suitcase that contained the early chapters of a book that she was working on. At one point, her ex-husband hid the manuscript, trying to prevent her from leaving with it. She was clinically depressed in contemplating suicide. She couldn't afford to heat her flat properly, so she pushed a pram to cafes to write while her daughter slept. The manuscript was rejected by 12 publishers, that's 12 people, telling her in different ways that it wasn't good enough. The rejection wasn't abstract. It was survival level. if the book failed, so did her last attempt at building a life.

The humiliation of those refusals became momentum. J.K. Rowling went on to sell 500 million copies in the Harry Potter series globally and became richer than the queen. You never know what worst luck your bad luck has saved you from. Fucking money, dude. She has a great line where she goes, rock bottom is the most solid foundation to build from. Arthur Brooks has got this line where he says psychology is biology. and basically you can't try and trick. What's your thing about trying to think your way out of overthinking

is like trying to sniff your way out of cocaine addiction? It's so fucking. Banger, George. All right, where you go? Have you guys seen the, you probably all seen this. You've seen the McDonald's CEO thing that's been going viral. It's pretty, have you been following this? So the CEO of McDonald's tries to do a promotional event for the new Big Arch,

which kind of worked because it went viral but not for the right reason so I don't know if you've seen this check this out with you've heard about it here it is the big arch

first of all is this what you thought he'd look like tested all in Portugal Germany, Canada I love this product it is so good

I'm going to do it tasting right now but I'm going to eat this for my lunch just so you know so here we go holy cow God that is a big burger

we've got a very unique kind of sesame poppy sort of bun on it. We've got two quarter pound patties, a delicious big art sauce, and of course some lettuce. So, oh, there's so much going on with this. First of all, let's try to get this thing.

It was like me trying to unhook a bra for the first time. If you had my narration. All right, the moment of tree. Barely gone. That is so good. That's a big bite. for a big one. It's distinctively McDonald's. Only McDonald's could do this type of burger, but it also was unlike anything else on our menu. It's a delicious product. You know,

you've got sort of the cheeses and the gooiness, but those crispy onions as well gives a nice texture. And of course, we've got the pickles. So I'm going to enjoy the rest of my lunch, but Big Arch, probably when you can get it. Sort of cheeses is a great way to describe whatever sounds like a burger. You know, he's basically like lying when he's like, I'm going to eat this later off camera, but I'm definitely going to eat this. Yeah, totally. I want to be clear. I'm going to finish this place. I do this all the time. That made me feel physically ill. That made me feel physically uncomfortable to watch that. It's like watching an android try to be a human. It was very

strange. How did not get out? Like from the lab, like a lab leak? What do you mean? That wasn't him, that wasn't him catching something. Oh, no. Let's go. Let's go. official big arts Oh, that's good. Ben, wait, Ben, look at the tie length on Ben.

Can we just admire? You may have to turn around. Turn around to the camera. Show the length of the tie. That's your camera. Ben wore his son's tie. Do we all try the big arch with the McDonald's CEO bite?

Wait, wait, wait. Are you passing? Can you just reenact? Reenact the CEO? Yeah. What was it like he was picking up an act of IED? First, yeah. calls the red wire to the big arch

enjoy the product Michael the product this is a great product wow this is mechanically engineered oh it's so wet we all got big arches it's so wet it is unbelievable all right I'm going to take a big bite for a big guy you know that scene in SpongeBob's

crabby paddy It's just the tiniest little bit of oh wow Oh, it's medium rare. That's good. That's good. I want my McDonald's beef to be medium rare. Did it maintain the perfect...

Good product? Is it still maintain its perfect circular shape? That's a unique poppy seat. I've never seen a bun like that. He said, we have sort of a sesame pot. What do you mean sort of a sesame seed? I'm really fucking... I love the way he used the word product.

A good rule of fun is no consumer uses the word product or consumer. Yeah. I shall now consume product. Everybody. Hello, fellow kids. Would you like to consume product? Is it good? Yeah, how is the bigger art?

Yeah, how is the bigger art? That's what he should have done if he made me want to eat it. But luckily, I already love a double quarter pounder, so this is great. It's not that special. But yeah, basically the CEO decided that he was going to fucking torpedo himself. Yeah. It's so funny to think, how did that get out as if that wasn't meant to be for public consumption? Yes.

Well, I wonder if they, it's maybe a Machiavellian thing from the social. media manager. You think it's an accidental... I thought that was a promo. Nobody's that smart. Jared, throw up the meme I have on the talk of the McDonald's thing. It's so funny. I quite like it. When Ben was looking for his McDonald's uniform, he went on Facebook Marketplace. This is the CEO of McDonald's right now. Jesus fucking Christ. He goes on Facebook Marketplace and he found somebody who is selling a uniform and she goes like oh yeah sure like you need it for work and ben was like yeah i need it for

work that's the actual uniform and then well the woman you were messaging was you're trying to get the uniform and then she looked him up and was like it doesn't look like you work at McDonald's and she got creeped out and did not give him the McDonald's uniform so he had to make his own you made that my wife beat this one that's unbelievable she ironed on the m did she make the tie too Or did you get that at Baby Gap? That's a perfect length, man. I think Ben's been in uniform, waiting for the big arch moment with Tom Cruise in the green room. Is fucking Ben in a McDonald's uniform and Tom Cruise?

This might be like the completely original scenario. This doesn't exist in any other timelines or realities. That's correct. In a thousand universes, there's only one where Ben was dressed at the McDonald's guy next to a Tom Cruise impersonator, waiting to give us the food. During the break, I said, oh, can I get a napkin? Tom Cruise spilled new tonic on the table. Now, that's a sentence that's never been said before. The first of your bloodline to ever do that.

I give that out of 10 on three. Say your rating. Ready? One, two, three. Seven. Interesting. Not bad. It's okay.

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it's not coming from McDonald's. Except for the Filet of Fish, I will die on that hill. Best sandwich and fast food. What do you think they're trying to... Is this just every company CEO now needs to do self-branding? Just build a personal... Yeah, everybody needs have a personal brand. Yeah, I don't know.

He's been basically only in front of shareholders, you can tell. And this was like, this has been coming out party and only in front of reptilian people. It's a freaking lizard man, dude. If I was ever on the fence about that conspiracy, he just proved it. Yeah, but like if Zuck, it took 20 years for Zuck to do this transformation, right? Do you remember when he was also like a lizard? He literally had like a thing where he could find this where he was like, I was a human. I am a human.

I am a human, right? He literally was doing that, the sweet baby rays. And now he's just like swagged out and awesome and like cool. That's what happens. You get four-figure testosterone and everything goes well.

All right. How about I tell you about this? Have you heard of the beer mile? The beer mile. Yes. I've never heard of the beer mile. I won one last year, yes. You won a beer mile?

Beat Devin Levesque and the beer mile at running. Do you want to explain what it is? Can we guess? Yeah. George. What is your guess? What is the beer mile? You drink beer and run?

During? before. Directionally accurate. During. So the beer mile is, I wish I was being facetious when I said this. I think it's more painful than any marathon or ultra I've run because it's such an acute pain for such a short time. So the goal of the beer mile is simple. You run one mile. And every quarter mile, you have a beer. So over the course of one mile, you drink four beers. So the gun goes off, beer one, quarter lap, beer two, quarter lap, three, quarter lap four. There's a great photo. I, wish I'd known you bringing it up of me. We'll call it an action shot immediately after crossing the finish line on all fours just, oh, just exiting all of the beer that I had. So that's the

should we create the big arch mile? I would do that. Interesting that you talk about the B mile. How about the two beers, two Sigs, two Rubik's, two Rubik's cube speed run? Yeah. Jared. This is, if you were to look at your kind of elementary version of a physical. challenge. Feels like it now. You know, let's... Oh, he's got Ben's tie. My time to beat is three minutes, 33 seconds.

I can't remember the war record, but it's around a minute 30. You can see it up here. Will I beat that? If I know, but I'm hoping for under two minutes. Also, the uptop camera is dead, so... This guy's just on his patio. And he's got the specialist. There we go.

I mean, that first beer is, what? Four gulps? Nice. Watch him rip this thing. Watch him rip this thing. It is absolutely absurd. How do you even speed smoke a cigarette? Like that.

Just like this. That's, I think technically sprint smoking a sig. It's, uh, holy shit, it's working. You say, bolting that motherfucker. It is unbelievable. The hair, the suit. It's really Scott Adams' talent stock in its purest form, isn't it? Yeah.

Yeah, bears interesting, a unicycle's interesting, but a bear on a unicycle is fucking fascinating. sink. And then two sigs. So there's got to be a strategy here, right? He starts off with the beer. He needs the Joey Chestnut, double dip. I don't think you can do it. I think it must not be able to do it. But look at his, look at his

Cuban. Oh, but see he's doing this. He's going to be dried up from the sigs so he'll want beer after the second. I think that's the way it goes. Yeah. I wish they had a shot of his dad crying inside. Watch. Does he have like a warp on? We need like a live tracker. What's his strain after this activity? This is, he's on track for a world record here.

right? And he must be thinking the press, well, I guess you got a lot of nicotine in you, but he needs to down the beer quickly. Is it a world record? This is a world record. This is the world record. This is the new world record. Was he creating the world record? No, he was trying to beat it. It was 130-something.

I like your idea. We need to get this guy in touch with with Simon at Woob. Hands down. George, there's tens of them out there doing this. 128, 3, dude. Jesus Christ. Wow. Purp is crazy.

Imagine if he realized the camera wasn't rolling the pain. Who was this small Asian kid he just showed? I think he just called someone out. The former champion? Yeah, that was the former champion that we know well. Jesus Christ. That was something. Well, yeah.

I mean, that's what you've got to do next. The two beers, two Cigs, two Rubik's Cube speed run. I did get challenged to do, because I talked about the beer mile and content, I got challenged to do the filet of fish mile, because I convicted on the fact that I think the filial is the ultimate fast food sandwich. And so I think what I'll do is I'll run a quarter mile and every quarter mile I eat a fillet.

Swim to Alcatraz. Down a fillet of fish, swim down another filet of fish. Mentally I'll already be an Alcatraz. It doesn't matter where we swim. That's what Ross Edgeley is great at. So Ross was the first guy to swim around the UK. He did it in nine months, something like that. And he swam six hours on, six hours off for nine months.

He was just bi-phazic sleeping, six hours on, six hours off. and I had him on the show 18 months ago, and I was trying to work out, like, what the fuck is it with this guy? He's jacked. He's got this sort of never unhappy fucking mentality, which is kind of crazy. But what is it really that causes him to be so good? And I realize it's the fact, his digestion system, like his capacity to digest food. For instance, he swam the longest river in Canada.

I think he's done the longest river swim unbroken, 50 hours. that he swam for without touching land, without stopping, 50 hours of swimming. Yeah, it's delirious. He tried to do it in Italy and got hypothermia, then tried to do it in America and got hypothermia, and then tried to do it in Canada and did it. He was so cold that the best way that he could heat his body was with piping hot porridge, like burning, scalding hot porridge that he just ate and it warmed him from the inside, like wearing a hot water bottle. and I realize he's able I don't know about you

If I eat something I have to be upright If I try and lie down It's so fucking uncomfortable I want to burp It's awful He's able to do it While swimming

Not only is he fucking horizontal Motherfuck is swimming So yeah He's actively eating While striding in the water No he'll stop and tread water And they'll throw like a banana on a bucket And it'll just fucking force a banana

Down and pour Protein shakes and porridge And shit into Is it? Didn't you swim like the entire coastline of Iceland or some shit? The circumnavigated Iceland. Yeah. Ice swimming for this.

I mean, the mad thing about it is he makes it look so effortless. Like lots of people that do crazy things. Yeah. It's not that Rubik's Cube thing. That is hilarious. Right. Watching Ross do it, it's just business as usual. If you've done it twice a day for nine months, just business as usual.

He's a fucking freak. It's crazy. Well, you know, the only thing I was going to do, I had like a lot of America chat and not much British chat. You two, Yanks, dominating things. Hell yeah, we do. That's good, baby. That's such a difference in reaction immediately.

The European mind could never comprehend. The fuck is a calamity. We don't know either. We don't use it. So I've got one of my favorite accounts called mental UK headlines. So it's just different like mental shit that's happened in the UK. But it's like it's a specific type of mentalness that would only happen in the UK. So I was thinking, can you give me?

like the gong. You know like the new station? Gong. Bong. Grandfather banned from U.S. holiday after accidentally ticking terrorist box on visa form. Bong.

Rescuers learned that the exotic bird that they found was actually a seagull covered in curry. Sean, that must have been here. That's a good one. Have you ever Googled your birthday

and Florida Man? Oh yeah. No. Fucking, what's your birthday? April 25th. April 25th, Florida Man. In Google, please. Day Adolf Hitler died down.

Ah, here you go. How do you know that? Why do you know that? Just know that. A Florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster. Wow. Oh, 25th or 20th? I love it. No, that's right.

Oh, that's right. 20th. Not Hillers? No, I know. Okay, good. There we go. Open that up. Try to ride an inflatable balloon

to the Bermuda triangle. Nice. Hamster ball to the Bahamas. Wow, that got more extreme. A Florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster. Oh, see, that's respectable. Ball to the Bahamas. Ride a hamster was definitely exciting, but in a different way.

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All right. Orlando Weekly, we need to subscribe. Yeah, mine is Florida Man arrested after dumping heaps of dirt on girlfriend's car. Heaps is an interesting word. How much just constitutes the arrest? Heaps. Too much. There's a hilarious Reddit post on angry girlfriends. This girlfriend went and posted in the, Am I the Asshole subreddit about her boyfriend? Jersey, if you could pull this up. It's, um, he's, he's,

yeah, am I the asshole? He's been rating every meal she cooked for him for, like, secretly for over a year. And she got a glimpse, she got a glimpse of the spreadsheet. and took a secret photo and posted on Reddit, like, am I overreacting basically to this spreadsheet? And so it would be like, you know, spaghetti and meatballs, 7.7. And yeah, this is the screenshot. So she took this. Zoom in.

Yeah, you got to zoom in. That's where the magic is. There's really two incredible things in this screenshot. The first is the rating system and the count. So she's made spaghetti and meatballs 2802 times. The rating is 7.7. The average rating 7.5. So, you know, she did a little above average this time.

But the trend, three arrows up like the stock market, spaghetti and meatballs is doing well. But then all the women in the comments are just ripping them because he's also got like AI open asking how to grow his calves. It's like all the women are like, well, tell that little bird calf bitch that he needs to do this, this and this. To increase your calf size, you must combine training that targets both the gastrock and the surlius, the deeper flatter muscle. In daily life, they're normally fatigue resistance, specializing in techniques. fucking hell. What was the lowest rating average overall? Chicken tacos 6.9? Chicken stir fry six. Oh, yeah, the average six and a half there. That's not good. That's a tough dish, though. It has to like work in audit at Ernst & Young or something. This is insane. That's fucking fantastic.

I'm so glad you brought up Excel spreadsheets because I found something on how dogs can't get pregnant because of underwear. and I am terrified of this. Have you guys ever given any attention to this, the whole underwear thing, cotton clothing and how it's a big part of the health and wellness world? Austin Floyd's massive on it. You won't shut up about it. Okay, do you do?

Do you pay attention? Bamboo cotton. I listen to stuff. What is it? Microplastics? That's the issue or something else? I think we're all effectively as we sit here nuking our nuts.

That's what I've gathered from this study. So a study on Twitter from the never-controversial account Carnivore Aurelius says, ladies, you need to be wearing cotton underwear. Now this is targeted at women, but there's evidence for males as well. Polyester underwear on dogs tanked their progesterone 90%, which earlier we called out the ethics of studies and how we can't do them anymore. Do we draw the line at making dogs infertile through human underwear?

Polyester underwear on dogs tanked progesterone 90% from 15 nanograms per milliliter to 5, and 75% of them couldn't get pregnant. Polyester creates an electrostatic field that disrupts hormone production, 100% cotton only if you want babies. I have never paid any attention to this now, and I don't think I own a single pair of cotton underwear. I thought this was fascinating. I'm doing the opposite.

I'm going to do this as a form of birth control. Rather than a vasectomy, I'm just going to start polyester. I think I'm speed running infertility, and I didn't even realize it from my underwear and not anything else in my lifestyle. So maybe a good incend. George, what's your concern level? You constantly talking about the sauna as well, right?

The saunas. That's why we've got nutticles in the first. freezer. You have nutcicles at the house. Nutsicles in the freezer. That's a Brian Johnson move right there. Yeah. I've been doing it since... Is that a branded thing or you're calling it that? No, no, no, no. Nutsicles. They are purpose built. Search just Google Nutsicles for me, please, Joe. There's a problem as a guy. Nutcicles. Nutcicles. Nutcicles. The drop shippers are undefeated. Like popsicles, but nutsicles. And, uh, yeah,

they just, Brian made this really great point, which is my, uh, sperm count went up a lot by me going in the sauna. Like, but it only happened when I iced my, they were there on the top left. Look at those. So they're special pants. I don't wear the pants because the pants are polyester. But I do just use. The irony of that. I know.

But I just pop those on the outside. Oh, I don't want to see the fucking person. Don't show me the demo, please. Oh, okay. Is he drinking a beer? It's supposed to be for vasectomy recovery or something. Bring him through. Yeah.

Honestly, if Ben's not. honestly if Ben comes in with a fucking pair of nutticles I think we found the hook for the show everything the viral person shows up and has to answer bring him on down um yeah basically Brian couldn't work out whether or not his sperm count went up because sauna is great for his body or because he was icing his balls for 40 minutes a day

so it might actually have just been the fact that he was putting them in a really cool environment that was helping to foster fucking Well, that's why they're in the sack in the first place, right? Correct. But like, you're taking them, you're talking about something that's come out with the fucking freezer. Like, oh, this is a little bit. I have a friend who does the face plunge.

You mentioned earlier to change his physiology to his nuts every single morning. Oh, like the nut dunk? Wait, why didn't you say this when I mentioned the face punch? Well, we had, you held this secret close. You're talking about panic attacks. I wouldn't have thought, ah, testicles, yes. He, every morning for many years now, he has dunked his nuts in a, and I was like, but how do you? I didn't ask for the demo, but.

He literally just sits down into an ice bowl every morning for about two minutes, and he said he's noticed difference in the way it hangs, if you will. And his sperm count also went up, and his member appears healthier and fuller now. Pretty interesting stuff. Honestly, I mean, between that and sunning the fucking butthole, I guess you can go from one to the other. That's basically contrast therapy, but just for your fucking groin, eh? Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah. Boys, I appreciate you being here. First one in the new studio, some technical issues and all the rest of it. I hope everyone enjoyed Tom Cruise and everything else. I'm really excited. Thank you for being. This feels like a real special moment to be able to do this for the first one. So go to McDonald's, get yourself a big arch. And we'll see you next time.

All right. Boys, yes, we did it. Amazing. Let's fucking go. All right. Dinner. For dinner. Ditto. Love you. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember 988, Canada's Suicide Crisis Helpline. It's good to know, just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime.

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