Modern Wisdom - #139 - Chelsea Ferguson - £10,000,000 From Selling Nudes

Episode Date: February 3, 2020

Chelsea Ferguson is the founder of AdmireMe.vip. We're constantly being told that you can be anything you want and if you discover your passion in life you can find someone who will pay you for it... ...Well what if that passion is taking naked photos of yourself?  Thankfully, even that is now an option now. Today we get to learn how Chelsea created a a £10m business in 16 months with only £45k of investment and a pair of boobs. Extra Stuff: Follow Chelsea - www.admireme.vip/chelseafergo Follow Chelsea on Twitter - https://twitter.com/chelsfergo Take a break from alcohol and upgrade your life - https://6monthssober.com/podcast Check out everything I recommend from books to products - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, friends. Welcome back to Modern Wisdom. Oh, get ready for today. So, I am joined by Chelsea Ferguson, the founder of AdmireMe.VIP and longtime celebrity of Snapchat, Twitter, and getting her boobs out in the national press. Me and Chelsea have been friends for a long time. I've known her since she was a stripper in Newcastle and she dated some of my friends back in the day and we used to party together and blah, blah. Recently, she started a website. This website allows guys and girls to sell their content
Starting point is 00:00:36 directly to clients who want to sign up to it. It's been used quite a lot over the last year and has generated nearly 10 million pounds of revenue in 16 months. So I thought, hey, that sounds like an interesting business plan to go through. Let's sit it down and have a chat. So that's precisely what I did. No matter what you think about selling your nudes online, you can't argue with the numbers. So yeah, I want to hear what you think. I was super impressed by Chelsea. I thought she had a great understanding of exactly why she's doing it. It seems like she's really protecting and advising the girls and guys that
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Starting point is 00:03:49 A message from the Government of Canada. Enjoy this one. Please welcome the wise and wonderful Chelsea Ferguson in the building woo how are you fine very good thank you
Starting point is 00:04:22 thanks for coming on it's alright now better to do. What are you talking about? That's funny, man. So we've been friends for ages. We've been friends like 10 years. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:04:34 And we've been through, I've been different jobs. You've been in loads of different jobs. First things first, right? You're at a party. Someone comes up to you and says, Hi, Chelsea. I'm a new human who doesn't know anything about you.
Starting point is 00:04:48 What do you do for work? What's your answer to that? If I'm drunk or like it's like a young crowd, I'll just be bled out like, I'm porn star me, like as a joke. Well, it's not really a joke
Starting point is 00:05:00 because I have suck dick on camera as well. No. If it was like, you know, like an older woman, which usually the young ones know who I am, so it would be like an older person. And I would just say that I own a website. And then if they push me into saying what kind of website, I'll say a porn website.
Starting point is 00:05:16 A porn website. A porn website, yeah. So is that the class of websites that Admire Me is? A class as that, yeah, because it's like adult entertainment isn't it yeah and everybody's pretty much shagging on there and stuff there is people that don't but like yeah it's obviously not safe for work not definitely not safe for work no yeah so someone again listeners some people know who you are some people won't what's admire me uh my me is a website where um men and women can make up their own profile
Starting point is 00:05:48 some couples as well do and make your own profile set your own price and then upload basically nudes pictures videos like home movies whatever you want to upload and you charge whatever you want then you can like charge extra for premium posts and things like that so that's the gist of it really and it's just been crazy i didn't even think because there's so much free power i didn't and you can like charge extra for premium posts and things like that. So that's the gist of it really. And it's just been crazy. I didn't even think because of so much free power, I didn't even think that it would be like a thing really. And it just very much is a thing.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yeah. So what's your revenue to date so far? What's revenue turnover? Yeah. We're about £9.8 million in 16 months. I'm trying to work it out. About 16 months, I think, yeah. Nearly £10 million.
Starting point is 00:06:32 £10 million? Turnover, yeah. £10 million from selling nudes. Yep. That's a lot of nudes. It is a lot of nudes. Have you got any idea how many nudes it is? I don't actually.
Starting point is 00:06:43 That's an interesting question. Good question. Have you seen... That's what we're here for but i don't have the facts yeah but that's me like that's like me saying to you some good nudes that chelsea you know well i'm a professional have you ever seen porn hub at the end of the year they get a data team they've got a big data science team right in the back end that do all the trends so it's like the most popular porn in India and like how many people are watching
Starting point is 00:07:08 on mobile and what the average blah blah so you should get some we have got all that like to say like who's on computer who's on phone
Starting point is 00:07:16 and like more stuff like that but I'm not interested in stuff like that so I never look if you had a Becky my cousin my CEO
Starting point is 00:07:23 she has all she likes all numbers and stuff like that she knows I don't even have the logins for the back half like this is my company
Starting point is 00:07:31 and I don't even have the logins why are you not trusted it's not it's not that I'm just not trusted it's just that I don't care like she
Starting point is 00:07:38 she'll message me and go oh we're nearly hitting 10 mil like she'll just fill me in and I'll just you know what I mean I trust her so what do you care about
Starting point is 00:07:46 with regards to the business I do care no no my point is where is your like my job really is like being relevant online
Starting point is 00:07:54 making sure I'm always like tweeting like recruiting new people getting the word out there arguing with people online lots of arguing putting viral tweets viral Facebook statuses
Starting point is 00:08:06 posts whatever yeah just getting my name out there i suppose um more like just so people click on me and be like who's this and what's that exposure yeah so that's my job i get you so how did it start how do you how do you start thinking i want to make a website where i can get amateurs at home and some pros as well as we had mutual friends yes the end of the day was on um but yeah how do you why um though i was on another site which done pretty much a similar thing and their site was shocking they never spent any money on it it was always breaking down um losing money
Starting point is 00:08:47 at a fighting centre um they never replied to your emails for weeks like it was shite that's as a actress
Starting point is 00:08:54 what do you call yourselves on mine we call us VIPs but on that one it was just you were just a model I guess
Starting point is 00:09:01 yeah okay it was just that was like a term for it but um yeah they were just shite it all around so I was like I can't live like this like this money is mint but I can't live like this like it was just answering your message everything was a nightmare so I said why don't we try and make ours like make our own so it was like 45 grand of my own money I didn't
Starting point is 00:09:22 get a loan I didn't have I don't have rich parents like I literally done it as a risk of my own money i didn't get a loan i didn't have i don't have rich parents like i literally done it as a risk with my own money that i made and we just like went to a web company and obviously just went from there really where do you get 45 grand from i had i just had it because you've been stripping for a while and obviously i used to sell nudes on a different site and i just like i guess i just had loads of money already but now we have more yeah well how hilarious is it that you've you've earned money on one site then use that money to create their biggest competitor yeah that's like so funny that's like me winning a race in nike shoes and using the prize money from winning the race to create a better pair of shoes
Starting point is 00:10:00 yeah my own brand well i've made like 500 000 pound on this other website so they took a hundred thousand pound in in fees off me yeah but they never they never like there was shit so like i was losing money where they were because there were things didn't work and it was just annoying me i paid them all this money they didn't care i was emailing them they didn't reply for weeks and sometimes i didn't reply at all i like, what are you taking this 100 grand for? Like, you're literally taking it. Don't fuck all with it. So we were just sick.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So I just decided to make that one. So that was the gist of it. I get you. Because, I mean, if you look at it from a normal business perspective, right, let's say that you were some stationary company, which you're absolutely not. Could be. You could be. If you were a stationary company
Starting point is 00:10:48 and you had a client that was worth 500,000... You'd keep them happy, wouldn't you? You'd have an account manager. Exactly. They might even assign them a PA of some kind. Exactly. They just didn't care. You must have been...
Starting point is 00:10:58 That's why we care. If you email us, if we're awake, you get emailed back within minutes. Do you know what I mean? Everybody gets dealt dealt with every single situation gets dealt with personally sometimes we ring them like to sort it out like you know if there's an issue and we we actually genuinely care and want to be the best we don't we don't want to take people's money in fact the company itself i make most of my money from selling my own nudes but the company itself obviously makes
Starting point is 00:11:23 a good profit but every single penny pretty much of the profit the company goes back into the company it costs a lot to run it like a lot like tens of thousands tens and tens of thousands per month where where's the cost where yeah so is it online advertising is it upkeep for what is it just like the um obviously the sheer size of it uh there's been i think i wish i knew the facts there's something about 400 000 customers have been through it so it's just like the volume of like people and obviously the the profiles and it goes up to the cloud in the sky or something this is like i don't know that i'm not very good at computers so obviously we've got a team that does all that but yeah go apparently to keep it in this cloud in the sky costs a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:12:07 So you've got your hosting. Yeah, stuff like that. Support on the back end. All the inquiries of some guy who desperately wants to have a go. Yeah, I've got 12 members of staff in the office, all girls, like women. Are they all on the site as well? No, none of them. So you're the only one
Starting point is 00:12:25 that's monetising yourself yeah because they're all like normal girls I guess like they're all some of them are my relatives people I've known for years people I can trust
Starting point is 00:12:35 you know what I mean so yeah it's crazy but 12 of them in the office and like two of them are like
Starting point is 00:12:42 over 60 and then there's like I know and then there's like i know and then there's like oh becky was like 40 and then kim she's about 37 and then the others are like younger but they're just i just have normal just a business as far as they're sitting there looking at cocks all day but they're as far as their content just a normal office job like they don't see it as anything else they're just replying to Twitter you know your marketing your things like that and that's it really
Starting point is 00:13:06 like okay so you've spent 45 grand yeah you've got this website what's the website do like what's the the crux of it it's able to host images and videos yeah
Starting point is 00:13:17 and attach and money and take money we've got a payment provider who takes the money and then takes a little cut and then gives us the money and all that. Yeah, that's it really.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So that's where you're at. You're at 45 grand, you've got this website and you've got you and a pair of tits. Yeah, me and all my followers that I've accumulated over the 10 years of being a stripper and stuff. What do you do then? What do you do after that? Because it's not just you. There's tons and tons
Starting point is 00:13:46 of people on that now yeah so obviously I've got a lot of friends in the industry I had a lot of friends who was on this shit site so I was messaging them like we've got a good site
Starting point is 00:13:54 coming out if yous are interested give us a go and like everybody pretty much will come on straight away I stayed on because they loved it
Starting point is 00:14:01 and all we keep doing is obviously making it better and better and listening to people see what features they want and um yeah just like making it better really we're just trying to be the best really I get you so that was and that was 16 months ago September 2018 that is a terrifying like numbers yeah the numbers what did you think you must have thought like well we made a million in the first three months
Starting point is 00:14:26 okay so we turned over a million in three months yeah and we would it was just crazy because we'd come into loads of problems
Starting point is 00:14:33 because you would think like we're basically more money more problems like because of being in the sex industry you don't realise how much you're
Starting point is 00:14:39 like discriminated against so I had an account with Barclays which had had a million quid through and they sent me a letter saying um we need you out by the end of the month we don't want your money basically because it's dirty money to them and about their reputation and so i had to be out of barclays bank couldn't get with any other bank even like the coots and all that i couldn't get with any of them banks in england so i've got a bank in germany i've got a personal bank in santander and halifax but for my business i've
Starting point is 00:15:09 got because i had so much money and yeah basically i've got a bank in germany for that that's crazy nobody wants my dirty money that's weird it's funny because like in the strip club over the years the ones who used to go in the most was the bank managers the bank they were they were the ones man like they as soon as I mentioned banking you were like cha-ching they're getting VIP
Starting point is 00:15:30 yeah everyone all the girls and like they're the ones like there was a guy who used to come in every like three nights a week to see the same girl
Starting point is 00:15:36 like for years never done for anyone else and just him and he was like one of the top ones at HSBC have you ever thought that it might be an ex
Starting point is 00:15:46 client of yours that's at Barclays he's just thinking fuck right lads we need to we really need to get that Chelsea bird off because if she finds out that I work here my missus is going to be nah because I don't even freaking know anyone's name my memory's awful yeah okay so you've you've finally you've managed to get yourself a bank account but if you've done so you've been going 16 months if it took you three months to make your first mill that means that in the remaining 13 months you've done eight which is actually even more impressive or nearly nine actually no it's nearly 10 yeah oh yeah sorry yeah so nearly nine like that's yeah so okay so when there must be a point where it really really started to lift off what happened there
Starting point is 00:16:25 every single month it goes up apart from January which is just after Christmas do people not wank so much in January do you know what I mean I think they wank
Starting point is 00:16:32 they wank as much but they must go on the free porn in January because they can't afford hours but no this is obviously this month's been shit
Starting point is 00:16:39 because it's just after Christmas everyone's skinned but every other month leading up to that was like up and up and up every single month leading up to that was like open up and up every single month was it was smashing the month before so it's gone because the models subscription right it's not like you don't buy photos I
Starting point is 00:16:56 don't buy a photo from you know you buy a subscription to see the photos and the videos I've got on there and that's I don't know what I've got on like 800 pictures videos for $40.99 or whatever it is and the videos that I've got on there so I don't know what I've got on like 800 pictures and videos for £40.99 or whatever it is and that rolls on every month right yeah or you can
Starting point is 00:17:09 cancel it straight away you just pay the one off kind of thing see what you want to see and then cancel it as with you know everyone that's listening has got some membership
Starting point is 00:17:18 that they don't use membership to a gym I've got one Netflix literally like my Amazon Prime I literally didn't even log into it for about
Starting point is 00:17:26 two years it was just paying £8.99 a month and then my my gym in Harty I've got two gyms in Hartypool that I pay monthly
Starting point is 00:17:32 I go to one I haven't been to the one for about eight months and it's just been rolling on £20 a month so that's probably what a lot of people do just like
Starting point is 00:17:39 sign up and then think can't rest cancelling yeah which I always do and then like that cumulative thing over time obviously is why
Starting point is 00:17:47 yeah is why you're going to continue to get it so coming to the girls and stuff that work for you obviously
Starting point is 00:17:53 you're actually enabling a lot of people girls and guys actually that's it that's a question what's the split
Starting point is 00:18:02 girls and guys we pretty much like 99% women like I know there's a lot of guys that do it on's a question what's the split girls and guys we pretty much like 99% women like I know there's a lot of guys that do it on other sites
Starting point is 00:18:08 like the shit one but we just didn't really get we've got some guys on there but mainly women
Starting point is 00:18:15 I've got quite a few couples and stuff like couples you've seen their kinky sex life or whatever which is quite popular as well
Starting point is 00:18:23 but yeah it's mainly women and hours. The vast, vast, vast majority of girls. I think what it is, I've got all these followers from over the years, like on my Twitter, which is obviously how I got famous or whatever. Like 700,000 at one point,
Starting point is 00:18:36 but now I'm down to about 500,000, 500 and odd. But I can retweet the girls, and obviously I've got the horny men waiting, customers waiting, because that's who follows me. I can't really retweet a guy because I haven't got guys, I haven't got, like, gay guys waiting. Do you know what I mean? My followers are straight men.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah, that's interesting. You've got a very narrow, it's very large, but very narrow market. Yeah, it's just straight men really. Men that really want to wank. Yeah. Just love wanking. market. Yeah, it's just straight men really. Men that really want to wank. Yeah. They just love wanking. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I think the thing that struck me, and it was the conversation that we had with Sienna that really, really, like, shocked me, was, if you haven't listened to that, by the way, link will be in the show notes below. It's a conversation with a porn star who's also on Chelsea's site, and she's, like, real funny, exactly the same as you, real charming, great anyway what she said was she is now in complete control of her own income yeah whereas previously in the porn industry she would go and work for brazzers or
Starting point is 00:19:38 then you don't know where it ends up kind of thing yeah and and on top of that it's like she gets a day rate I don't know what a day rate is. Five grand or whatever for the day, something. I might have like totally undersold in there. Sorry, Sienna. She gets a day rate and that's it. Like you've made your money and the content, the actual monetization of the content occurs for browsers to DVD membership site and, you know, all that like reselling across onto adverts and stuff like that. Whereas now what you're talking about is girls who are able to create their own content. I'm going to get, you know, this is a setup that's probably far more sophisticated than what almost any of the girls will have on that.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And we're just filming something for YouTube. We're just doing our phones. Phone. Bit of face tune. Phone, bedroom. Smoovy fanny over. Smoovy fanny over. Smoovy fanny over.
Starting point is 00:20:26 You know, bit of... With Facetune? Yeah, just in case you go any stubble rash. Have you considered releasing an app that's like VTune? VTune. Laughing at your own jokes. Someone has to. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:44 So we know how many we know that it's almost exclusively girls that are on the site what's the sort of content that people are putting up you've said mostly solo stuff you know what
Starting point is 00:20:52 video is it is it photo is it what every single profile is different like I can't say what one person does another
Starting point is 00:20:59 but one thing that is a bit like crazy I don't know what the word is but basically everyone thinks, you've got to go on there and get smashed all over, suck everyone off and that's how you make money. But like, yeah, I have got some videos like that of ex-boyfriends, like, you know, sucking them off and stuff like that. But some of me top earners have made over like 100 grand, 200 grand, like in my top 10. One of them only does topless she does do fully new but from far away like not like shown dead close and she's one of my top earners
Starting point is 00:21:32 uh another last jemma lucy who you actually won't mind me mentioning she's she's one of my top earners and she only shows well she's i think she's fully new but not like sex tapes or anything quite a lot of the girls in my top 10 don't do sex videos so there is loads of girls that do that but it tends to be the ones who weren't as well known so they obviously feel like they have to put more more effort in I guess
Starting point is 00:21:58 yeah the dirtier you get the more subscribers you get but some girls who already had followers people are just happy to see them it was to be fair so you can still make money just by doing that and there's loads of girls that do but it's about
Starting point is 00:22:09 realizing what's best for you and whether you want to put that next step out there like I was a bit like because obviously everyone's seen me tits over the years
Starting point is 00:22:17 but I was like do I want to put me funny on the internet and now it's like so the people that are listening that was the blowjob miming blowjob miming movement which is famous um yeah i i well that's that's a good question i really want to get on to which is you've got these girls who are on there who are completely in control of their own earning
Starting point is 00:22:40 they're maybe making great money now but their nudes are on the internet now they're on the internet but paywalled yeah but people do steal them so you had this problem today right
Starting point is 00:22:51 literally today when you walked in you were like me nudes have ended up on the internet no no me nudes ended up in a whatsapp group
Starting point is 00:22:57 your nudes ended up in a whatsapp group like what's happened there so like there must be some kind of whatsapp groups out there which just has loads of men in like it must be just for pervert or whatever and there which just has loads of men in like must be
Starting point is 00:23:05 just for pervert or whatever and a couple of my mates have messaged me like obviously in the groups and all you know it's been put in
Starting point is 00:23:11 this group it's not the first time it's happened obviously they all do the rounds like basically someone will go on screenshot all my
Starting point is 00:23:17 shit and send it around yeah so is it there's no way of securing the content because someone can just press screen record right and then
Starting point is 00:23:23 play your video on their phone there's like I think there is some kind of stuff where some banking apps use where if you screenshot it doesn't work or something but we i think we like looked into it and it was going to be like really hard to do and also people want to do it they're just going to get another phone and take a picture so nothing is ever going to be 100% safe so you need to realize if you are going to do this they are going to be on there for the rest of your life they probably will ruin any future prospects that you're thinking about doing unless this is going to be your career and you're going to smash it buy some houses make sure you do properly and don't be i have nothing at the end of it but also at the same time it's not like stripping because like
Starting point is 00:24:03 obviously i was stripping and you barely ever seen I last over 40 in the strip club like that was pretty much like it but in this you do get like milfs and things like that
Starting point is 00:24:12 and because it's just online I think people just think fuck it I can still do it like I don't have to physically go to the strip club so people just keep doing it
Starting point is 00:24:20 over a certain age I guess and now so now you could keep doing it for longer but do you want to do it when you're 40, 50 probably not, do you know what I mean I always say
Starting point is 00:24:29 keep doing it until you stop making money and if you're still making good money why would you stop, if people ask me why are you still selling nudes when you own the company, I'm like because I'm making 10 grand a week most weeks selling me nudes and that's just on top of whatever else the company makes I'd be stupid to stop like 50 grand a month sometimes i make well i think the beauty is from an
Starting point is 00:24:50 economics perspective the fact that it's a membership site because it will accumulate over time your churn rate how many people actually end up dropping off and say oh unsubscribe from chelsea's tits like this month or whatever Like you've got to presume that if until you hit like a critical mass and there's a lot of men that are aged like 18 to 50. There's a lot of men out there. There's a lot of men. We're never going to run out of men. Well, yeah, you might do.
Starting point is 00:25:17 If you conquer the world of men with your site, that would be impressive. Yeah. Okay. So we've touched on it there like that some of the girls might have an issue then reintegrating back into a normal job. Also, I'm going to guess like if someone, one of the girls was also an employer as the... You could probably get sacked, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 My friend got sacked. She was like one of the ones who helps all people in a home or something okay yeah they they basically said like you're gonna have to resign or we'll sack you kind of thing um because we've seen what you're doing online it's unfair really because all you're doing is helping people plus you're helping people yeah you know i mean different types of helping she's just an all-around good girl good girl helping people no but like it is shocking me that you can get
Starting point is 00:26:07 sacked for stuff like that there is some jobs like other people I know have got normal jobs who do it and like their boss has known
Starting point is 00:26:14 they're like fine about it but it just depends what are some of those jobs do you know I don't actually know what she does you know but she's my group chat but she does
Starting point is 00:26:21 I think it's just like she's like a receptionist or something like that but it depends obviously who your boss is and like what the industry is i suppose um if you're like a primary school teacher yeah i mean exactly exactly one of my friends actually she wasn't on my site or anything but she's a teacher and um she actually got a warning at work because it was when my snapchat was big you know and he stopped millions of people on it um and like we were on
Starting point is 00:26:44 a night out and i was like filming like was and she know and I stopped millions of people on it and like we were on a night out and I was like filming like was and she pretended to touch me Fanny like and I was like it was just
Starting point is 00:26:50 we were just like messing around and she went like that pretended to touch her checklist for everyone who was only listening thank you thank you for clarifying that they literally printed it off
Starting point is 00:27:00 into a big like a fucking what's that life size massive and put it on the board
Starting point is 00:27:06 in school and was like is this you on Chelsea Ferguson's snapchat and that and she was like it looks a lot like my fingers
Starting point is 00:27:14 and she basically got like a disciplinary or something over it and like that was something outside of where on my snapchat that like nothing to do
Starting point is 00:27:22 with her snapchat nothing and she got in trouble over it so it seems like there's kind of two uh two cultures running in parallel here right one of them is the side that you're coming from which is it's just nudes yeah it doesn't matter you're not hurting anyone yeah and then the other side appears to be the Barclays Bank the primary school concerns where they're hyper sensitive
Starting point is 00:27:47 yeah to this sort of stuff I think everyone's just hypocrites to be honest because they'll all be freaking looking at it like
Starting point is 00:27:53 not one man on this planet would tell me they haven't fucking been on porn so so why so why can
Starting point is 00:27:59 why can you go and wank over it but people can't have jobs like do you know what I mean it does seem oddly like a double standard. I think it's something about someone's private life
Starting point is 00:28:10 is allowed to be theirs privately. Yeah. And the concern is them when they make that public. Yeah, I suppose. And for maybe an older generation, there's like an ick factor. It's still associated with sex work which it's it's you know you're not it's not like you're prostituting yourself to someone you're not you know street crawling yeah you're not doing that yeah um and bizarrely as well it's if you were to look at it from a like
Starting point is 00:28:38 a public health safety perspective a lot more a lot less dangerous than having to be on the street yeah all this sort of stuff and you know everyone's got a phone yeah so in one way or another i don't know i i think it'd be interesting to hear everyone that's listening you know like leave leave your thoughts in the comments below i really would like to hear sort of where your stance is on this um do you think it's your job to warn the girls about the implications of of being on the site do you think it's your job to warn the girls about the implications of of being on the site do you have like a process do you be like look you you kind of need to be aware that this is going to be around or i don't think it's my job i think obviously these are adults so you have to be eating but i do stress it a lot like i've done like my own youtube videos if anyone wants to
Starting point is 00:29:20 check those out which i'll link in the show notes notes below and I did like a like a Q&A about like admire me and how to make money and stuff like that and in that I do say like if people say can you do it anonymously
Starting point is 00:29:31 I'm like look yes you can do it anonymously but nothing stays anonymous for long in this world you only have how do you do it
Starting point is 00:29:39 from the neck down or whatever well yeah yeah basically and some girls do still make money but but all it takes is someone to go I know that's her so-and-so's bedroom. Like you can tell,
Starting point is 00:29:47 you can, you're about, someone's about, I can see her tattoo. She has that tattoo. Look into it a bit more and then it's all exposed because bitches be bitches and people can't stand to see anyone else doing anything. So obviously they'll try and ruin a good thing for you. So I just,
Starting point is 00:30:01 I do warn people and say like, this is on the internet for the rest of your life. So just sure especially when they're a bit younger as well like 18 and stuff like you make this i mean imagine some rash decision when i was 18 to be on the internet now i'd be like oh but you just have to think some of the stuff that you did when you were about 21 is probably on the internet still yeah it will be you you had a you had like a quick takeoff with that industry um so one of the other things that I wanted to talk about was a Facebook status that you put up recently. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I'll tell you what, why don't you describe what you posted? So I know it'll cause a ruckus, to be honest. So I posted a picture of my house, which is a five bedroom detached house with a double garage. And I had my lamborghini and my range rover sport on the drive and i've got chelsea on the lambo and fairgo on the range that's my number plates um if anyone wants to check the picture it'll be on my instagram chelsea fairgo um and i put it on facebook the picture and the caption was all from showing me
Starting point is 00:31:02 fanny to strangers wasn't it then like subscribe here yeah like oh help me put petrol in my Lambo help me put petrol in my Lambo
Starting point is 00:31:11 subscribe here yeah I forgot about that but yeah so it was yeah all from showing me Fanny to strangers help me put petrol in my Lambo
Starting point is 00:31:18 and then the link and it got like I can't remember how many shares thousands and thousands of shares thousands of comments loads of shit it was in like the star and the sun yeah it was on a few different web pages and
Starting point is 00:31:30 everyone was like calling me worse and shit like some of the stuff people say man i'm like are we man like just out of order like you just wouldn't even like say it's like why do you think people react that way so fucking jealous like people can't bear the fact that just getting me fanny out has got me all that do you know what i mean they think you can have some money but not as much like if i was showing me funny to everyone for free right they'd be all over it the minute i'm making money off it they don't like it the minute i've got the car the dream car that most men would fucking stick their cock in the exhaust if they could like that's the be like the best car one of the best cars in the world like and i've got it and that's why people don't like it but i fucking
Starting point is 00:32:10 worked out i played my jewels i worked in mcdonald's for two and a half yeah i worked in wacky where i was washing pots i worked in call centers i worked for vodafone i used to get shit every fucking day i used to work monday to friday night at five in a call center friday night saturday night in a nightclub all three in the one, then Saturday, Sunday, McDonald's, and that was my life, like, from, like, 17, 18, 19. Like, I've fucking been there, like, I've done the shit job, so why can't I do this now, like, I ain't it. So, fuck them. I, hey, I, uh... I get proper mad about it, mate.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I think, like, you know, I think think rightly so because there's people that are doing much more outlandish things and making much less money and being given much less shit. There was some real vitriol comments. I had a little bit of a scroll through and had a look at them and people are really, really becoming upset. They're very, very upset. And I think a lot of it is them being triggered by the fact that they probably work harder than me now they probably
Starting point is 00:33:09 work 70 hours a week don't get to see their family work away from their family and don't get her have a lambo don't even get her have the range like don't get her have a house but that's not my fault like because men you men created the industry you are the pervert who want to pay for it so why why should i you be mad at me because someone give me the option to make the money like the fruits of their labor essentially like you know i mean like you all want to see it so if you pay to see it then i make money like that's just fact i think yeah it is it is so interesting that you have this level of jealousy. And as well, you are right. There is the amount of work that you need to do now to earn the money that you do.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Compared with, you know, like when you think about your hourly wage now, compared to the hourly wage from McDonald's, it'll be orders of magnitude. I was on £4 an hour, I remember. Wow. You're also showing your age a little bit there, I think. Because that would have been when it would have been legal to. It's fine, I was on the salary. It was three, I was somewhere else before that, a cafe.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And I was on £3.60, I think, there. And that was when I was 15. But then when I was 16, I was entitled to £4.10 an hour. Yes. Yes. What am I going to spend all this extra money on? In fact, I used to go out Wednesdays, Thursdays, Friday, Saturday. Always get pissed.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Always come home with a takeaway. Always go taxi home. And always still have money in my hand like things were cheap back then they were
Starting point is 00:34:29 you used to get like five bottles for a fiver and that I don't think that you really need to worry about that anymore no I know
Starting point is 00:34:34 but it still annoys me like how cheap things used to be now they're not I know it's all relative you're one of those people that posts about the price
Starting point is 00:34:40 of Freddos every couple of years like Freddos have gone up by another five pence fuck Freddos I need the big fucking multi-pack pass Freddos are about that big that's doing a doom now for me okay I'm a fatty nowadays so yeah I think it is a lot of it is the fact that it's it appears from the outside in easy money or as you
Starting point is 00:34:58 like unearned money unjustified money yeah but this is the bizarre thing you look at anyone anyone who has come up with a product that has a disproportionate place in the market i could do with johnny and you sophia to explain this bit but the kid who made unfold have you heard of unfold it's an app that allows you to make really pretty instagram stories it's actually a life hack on a previous episode that we featured this this guy's made it some dude in america he's maybe 20 he's early 20s something like that he's just sold it to squarespace you know people that make websites like wix.com or whatever make it allow you to design your own uh website one billion i don't know what he is he's under 30 that's crazy one billion and it's like well that that kid there
Starting point is 00:35:43 has done a thing he doesn't need to work for the rest of his life look at Snapchat as well whoever made that sold that for I can't remember the amount
Starting point is 00:35:52 huge to Facebook who obviously Facebook bought Instagram didn't they buy all them WhatsApp yeah WhatsApp Facebook
Starting point is 00:35:59 Instagram and Snapchat I think are all owned by the same person so all they did was make an idea it was for nudes originally Snapchat
Starting point is 00:36:06 then as soon as it was bought by Facebook I was fucking kicked off with my 10 million followers I was livid is that how many people you had on Snapchat 10 million views
Starting point is 00:36:13 I used to get on my story do you mean they were all over the world that was a crazy time I could have been a millionaire then if this had been on then but it wasn't
Starting point is 00:36:22 because you'd have had access well I am a millionaire now but I mean a bigger millionaire you'd have had access well I am a millionaire now but I mean I'm a bigger millionaire you'd have had access to the market back then more easily yeah like literally anything I promised
Starting point is 00:36:30 so I used to get people come at the strip clubs and queue up for me and that was in Newcastle imagine if it had been a site online so one of the maddest stories I've got about you
Starting point is 00:36:37 and this is going back a little way you'll be able to tell me when it was I want to say like eight years ago so it was when you were going and doing
Starting point is 00:36:43 a nightclub PA so you'd fly you were going and doing a nightclub pa yeah so you'd fly over to ireland and do a nightclub pa like a reality tv person in the club for 500 quid or a grand or something yeah and then go and strip on the night time in like a local strip club i didn't do it in ireland but yeah i've done it in other places where it was like a i would go and do the pa and then strip as well so i would like make like a few grand or whatever didn't do it in Ireland but yeah I've done it in other places where it was like I would go and do the PA and then strip as well so I would make like a few grand or whatever
Starting point is 00:37:09 didn't you do was it Thingy Rhino Spearmint Rhino I've done Ladbible's first birthday when they first started I was their guest at Spearmint Rhino
Starting point is 00:37:18 in London stripping or just as a guest stripping could you imagine if Ladbible Ladbible if you're listening
Starting point is 00:37:23 how the fuck do you get away with some of the stuff that you post you had Chelsea Ferguson at your first birthday party getting them out yeah
Starting point is 00:37:31 unbelievable I was getting my fanny out for 20 quid getting your fanny out for 20 quid those were the days I do miss stripping actually why
Starting point is 00:37:38 I just loved it like it was fun I used to love meeting people like my fans or whatever you want to call them I used to love meeting people like I used to love getting drunk with them they sort of obviously making money but i used to have like even if it was my birthday everyone's like you're
Starting point is 00:37:52 going off your best i might go to work because i had more fun in the strip club than i did out like do you know what i mean i had more fun in there so i do miss it but it's just not a part of my life anymore and i couldn't go back now i wanted wanted to get onto this as well, actually. So the girls that work in a strip club, anyone who's been in a strip club will know that the girls are a community there, right? It's the same as any workplace. The people that you work with at McDonald's, yeah. But it's a very unique environment there.
Starting point is 00:38:19 If you had a daughter and she said, hey, mum, I'm 20 years old, I'm 21 years old, I'm considering of going and starting stripping, what do you think you'd say? I think I've always thought like, yeah, I wouldn't care if my daughter had done it, but I think if I did have a daughter, I would probably think different because I know that the drugs that comes with it, like everyone's on coke, everyone's like, you know, that's part of the job. Why do you know that's part of the job why do you think it's part of the job?
Starting point is 00:38:47 because it keeps you awake till fucking six in the morning like so like it's unless you well there was loads of girls that friggin drove to work and drove home
Starting point is 00:38:54 like so that's normal get people but like a lot of the drugs went on and that's where like a lot of people are like oh do you want to try this and like and then the parties
Starting point is 00:39:02 and yeah I think that would be the bit that put me off really but I think nowadays there's that many kids taking drugs
Starting point is 00:39:09 that it's probably going to happen anyway it would be a challenging question at least for you though so it's not as if you're just
Starting point is 00:39:15 thinking yeah yeah fine darling get cracking yeah it's not about I don't even care about the getting naked part
Starting point is 00:39:21 because you are safe like you are safe in the clubs like obviously with the bounces for that certain clubs you might not be so much but the ones i was in you were and they weren't touching you or anything like that so you can do it and it's safe like i think if it wasn't for the drugs then yeah i would probably say yeah why do you think the so the atmosphere that you're talking about there right right, the girls and stuff like that, I really want to try and get into the effect of girls treating men as transactions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Because I'm friends with some strippers and you'll be friends with hundreds. And there is, with some of them, what I think is a negative mindset about men. Just don't trust them. Like, every time men have come in the strip club and stuff, they're on their stag dues, they're getting married, they're trying to get a blowjob. Like, literally, like, the ones that you... Then there'll be one who sits in the corner and goes,
Starting point is 00:40:21 I don't want to dance, I've got a girlfriend, I'm in love, blah, blah. Oh, how cute's that, how cute. And then after a a few drinks he's like oh i'll fucking go on then then he's the worst one going oh much to fuck you i'm like i had faith in you i had we were all rooting for you and you let us all down but give me your money so it's so tough to like trust people and like i have so many trust issues from the strip club like i'm only just starting to like probably forget not forget but like my boyfriend now like he like everything he tells me i just take it as the truth which is obviously what all these other girls take from their boyfriends who've been in asking me for a blowjob so like you just don't know what i believe do you but you can't live your life
Starting point is 00:40:59 being cynical like that so i think getting away from the strip club has helped me in a way it also killed my sex life my sex drive i never wanted to have sex i'm gonna be posting about that a long a long time i've always literally for the 10 years of the stripper i hated sex i never wanted to be sexy like at home i was there being sexy at work like putting on the act of being sexy but as soon as i was home i was in a juicy tracky i wasn't shaving my fanny all week till my next shift like i was literally like i've got no interest in sex at all and that's and then obviously that like affected me relationships and stuff like that but i just i think it ruined me i did ruin it for me one of the strippers that does as well the analogy that
Starting point is 00:41:39 i draw for people when they talk to me is like hey man like you've got the night off this weekend do you want to go out yeah And I'm like, no, I understand that you think this is fun, but what you do for fun is what I do for work. Exactly. I like that. Yeah, so true. And I can kind of see that with you.
Starting point is 00:41:54 The unique thing, I love the outliers in these situations and Sienna, who was sat here, is a pure outlier. So Johnny was like, you know, you've been at work all day. You've been DP'd by two huge men from Amsterdam or whatever. And you get home and your boyfriend says like,
Starting point is 00:42:10 honey, do you, do you fancy, do you fancy having some sex this evening? And she was like, no, fuck it. Of course I would.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Because she's one of those girls that's built for the, she seems to be built for the industry. That's why she, yeah, that's why she does it because she's horny, isn't she? But you might class yourself a little bit more as sexually a normal... I'm just a big blagger.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I've blagged my way through this industry pretending I'm a horny bitch. It wasn't true. Now I'm in a relationship with somebody that I love. It's different. But when I was in relationships before, it wasn't the same. Do you know what I mean? It was tough. And I just didn't feel't the same. Do you know what I mean? It was, like, it was tough. And I just didn't feel it at all.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And people never believed me. I used to always be, like, I'm not a slag, me. You know, I'm fucking boring. And I still say I'm boring now. I'm, like, missionary with the lights off and that. Like, no, that's not completely true. Yeah. Sometimes the lights run.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Sometimes we dim them. It gets wild. Sometimes it's on the couch couch not just in the bed yeah people ask me things like where's the wildest place you've had sex I'm like on the couch
Starting point is 00:43:11 that's true I never fucking have sex in anywhere crazy like I wouldn't I don't like I like to be comfortable I don't want to be done there's part of
Starting point is 00:43:19 the discussion that we're having here where people seem to think that it's this window into your life and I think that's part of the attraction of sites like admire me and i think this is i'd like to get your thought on this why i think that these direct to client or direct to consumer sites like yours are effective is that it feels a lot more personal personal that is why it works
Starting point is 00:43:45 yeah there's loads of free porn obviously you can go on Pornhub and watch anything but you don't know anything about it you don't know anything
Starting point is 00:43:51 about that girl and this sounds so fucking stupid like I don't know what she's been up to today I don't know what her likes and dislikes are I don't know why
Starting point is 00:43:59 I'm American now but like that's what people like if you live in the street right say there's a fit girl who lives at number fucking 20, right?
Starting point is 00:44:05 And you always see her every day going to work and you're like, wonder what her arsehole looks like. So say there's an option. Do you often wonder that? Well, like not personally,
Starting point is 00:44:14 but obviously I know what men are like. They would look at a girl and be like, like, especially if she's like, say like a cute girl next door type who you would never believe in a million years
Starting point is 00:44:22 would show her nudes. Makes you want to see more. Like someone's out there with a fanny flaps out already you're a bit like i've seen it do you know what i mean but if you tease if you well you for your teas or you don't intentionally even you might just be going about your daily business men are intrigued by it so then they're like i wish there was an option to see her naked now there is and then they're like obviously i bet you any money i don't know the statistics but i bet you any money that most of my subscribers
Starting point is 00:44:46 will be people I know personally I can just imagine it there'll be people I've known from school there'll be people who I've worked at McDonald's there'll be people
Starting point is 00:44:53 who've known me for years who've always wondered what my fanny looks like now they know now they can find out for a mere 15 I think it's 49 now 15
Starting point is 00:45:02 I don't even know 49 discount available in the show so yeah that's the reason why I think it's 49.15 I don't even know 49.99 discount available on the show so yeah that's that's the reason why I think people like it
Starting point is 00:45:10 it's the fact that it feels very personal and you can chat to them so okay so it's kind of interactive as well yeah so people chat yeah they want to know
Starting point is 00:45:17 what you've been up to what's your have you not got you must have to have a PA for all of your subscribers I've got like I had about 3,000
Starting point is 00:45:24 at one point but like subscribers but I I had about 3,000 at one point but like subscribers but I'm at about 2,000 because it's January not every single one wants to message some people just want to go on and have a wank and go
Starting point is 00:45:34 do you know what I mean and that's fine but then there's I think there is just sometimes some lonely people out there want to chat to you because they might not have
Starting point is 00:45:41 anyone else to chat to which is obviously is quite sad really but like that's another it's just a service that you provide like they might not want to see an escort because they might not have anyone else to chat to which is obviously is quite sad really but like that's another it's just a service that you provide like they might not want to see an escort because they might not feel comfortable doing that they might not be confident they might just want to chat to you and pretend you're their online girlfriend or something like there's nothing wrong with that like it gives them a bit more of a personal experience some people might be virgin they might not dare go out there some people have mental health issues they might feel
Starting point is 00:46:04 like too anxious to speak to a girl especially somebody who's like us who does what we do like you wouldn't talk probably come up and talk to us like quite intimidating so there's all these reasons really that people wouldn't understand I guess unless they were in that situation completely yeah I want to get back to the the conversation about the relationships thing do you think that the girls that are on the site so we've talked about stripping and some of the sort of side effects of that and i think that's super interesting that girls that are strippers see a very particular demographic of men yeah that inevitably it no man is at his most honorable in a strip club even the one who doesn't do anything yeah there's titties everywhere you know it's hard like
Starting point is 00:46:45 yeah when I go to strip clubs myself and I go to dance like I can't help myself so obviously they can't help themselves so that's that's one particular part of it but the girls that are working online
Starting point is 00:46:54 do you think that they're potentially going to come up against some relationship problems they've got to have a very specific type of boyfriend that's going to be accepting of his girlfriend getting naked on the internet
Starting point is 00:47:04 his friends could pay you know it's a common joke in some of the WhatsApp chats that we're in where it's you'll see a guy start to go out with a girl
Starting point is 00:47:11 the girl's on that and you're like hang on a second mate for 15 quid I can see your girlfriend's vagina yeah I know but I just think like
Starting point is 00:47:19 how many girls you'll probably know how many girls fannies have you seen in town like girls who you who are nurses who are many girls' fannies have you seen in town? Like, girls who were nurses, who were teachers, who have normal jobs, but they've sent their nudes to one person and it's been sent wrong because that happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:47:32 So just because I've charged for mine and she's sent hers for free and everyone's still seen it because that's what happens. Anyone who's ever sent a nude has been seen by more than just the person who you've fucking sent it to. Don't care what you say. So at least I can say, like, i got fucking paid for mine and paid plenty but back to the relationship thing i think it actually helps sex lives if obviously if if you're already doing it and you meet a guy he must obviously know what you do so he's accepting it because he's chose to be with you
Starting point is 00:48:00 and knowing that you do it in the first place and then i guess if you were just started doing it when you'd already had a relationship like say me and you in a relationship been together years and then i say why don't we do this like we make videos and that like we do it anonymously like a lot of couples do like your face wouldn't be in it like for a mask on or whatever and like people do do that and i think it probably helps some sex lives as well because you feel like oh let's make some videos a bit naughty and like it's a bit kinky and like everyone's different and everyone has a different
Starting point is 00:48:28 like what they're into kind of thing but it's always like people who you least expect as well people doing it anonymously
Starting point is 00:48:35 with normal jobs and you know like it's a little like secret dirty little secret whatever like there's some
Starting point is 00:48:41 there's so many different people on there it's not just like people like me who like say oh there's my arsehole kind of thing out there everyone knows Chelsea Ferguson lives in that's her arsehole there's loads of like people who do it like you know I mean there's more like subtle about it and stuff like that I understand what you mean so I think that the final concern that I have the final question i've got regarding
Starting point is 00:49:06 relationships and this is specifically a problem with girls and it's one that i see in strippers and i know that you will have done as well it's when girls see men as transactions not investments so they don't see themselves needing to actually put care or attention into a man because their industry that man is just let's say you're in a strip club it's a 20 pound dance 30 pound dance let's say that you're online that man is just a 15 pound subscriber have you ever noticed in yourself or in any of the girls that are around you like that kind of culture coming through where I know some girls, like one of my good friends actually, who lives in London, she's actually an escort. And she hasn't had sex for free in over five years.
Starting point is 00:49:52 She says, I don't fucking dare have sex for free. Like she literally has no interest in being in love, no interest in being in a relationship. To her, everything is a transaction. That's dangerous, man. If you want to speak to her, if you want to take her for dinner, everything is a transaction with you want to speak to her if you want to take her for dinner everything is a transaction with her that's her personally me i'm like an old romantic i love being in love i love being in relationship and i am in a relationship now i'm really happy and
Starting point is 00:50:17 yeah like for me it's i have quit stripping for somebody before and like it wasn't always about money for me i loved the job i loved making good money but it wasn't always about money for me. I loved the job. I loved making good money, but that wasn't the be all and end all of it to me. But there is girls like my friend who all she cares about is the money. Do you know if she was like that before? Did you ever know before?
Starting point is 00:50:36 I haven't known her that long, but she just doesn't care at all. Like she's like got a man's mindset. You know, like some men who are like, just fucking chuck that all they care about. They have no interest in being in love. Some people, she's like that.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Do you think she'll change? I don't think she ever will. Like she, it's literally like who she is. Like she doesn't care about any, any man. How old is she? She's older than me.
Starting point is 00:51:01 She's about 37. Okay. Yeah. Looks amazing as well. You've got to be a very unique woman i think personally you have to be a very unique woman to get to 40 without kids yeah and look back and think that was the right decision now that's not me saying that there aren't girls out there for whom that's the truth and there are there's some real high performers there's women who just don't want to have families there's men that don't want to have families and they can create perfectly
Starting point is 00:51:26 loving partnerships and beautiful families without the children with the kids there with the dogs yeah exactly you know like dog mom type thing yeah but i do worry that some girls might be prohibited from having a relationship perhaps because they struggle to find a partner who's comfortable with what they do or did perhaps ones who maybe have reframed relationships in this kind of new way transactional thing i don't really enjoy sex anymore sex has kind of been a bit it's the job yeah it's been dirtied for me somehow um and you know i i just i think it definitely seems like you're coming out from the right standpoint and it's nice to hear that the person at the head of the company has your mindset as opposed to your friends from london yeah because if it was that much more aggressive
Starting point is 00:52:17 militant money-making mindset that would inevitably trickle down to the girls if your boss boss boss boss never has a relationship doesn't care about someone i don't think that sets a tremendously healthy example for what most girls just they should have most girls should have relationships they should be in and out of romantic relationships same way that most guys should be in and out of romantic relationships i think the world's changing now chris honestly like girls have realized that we don't need fucking men anymore like that is the truth of it like i think men are good because they kind of lost their like their power i guess women have took it took over now like we're like if you want to fit into my life like this is what i do this is what i've always been like anyway obviously i love being loved but i've always never compromised who i was for anyone so i've always said this is me this is what i've
Starting point is 00:53:09 done this is what i'm gonna do you either fit into this life or you don't fit in at all because i'm not changing this is me and i've done it before i've changed for somebody and it ended up being and he lost everything and he lost everything and i wouldn't have been here talking on this conversation like he tried to make me lose every single penny that I had and luckily I ended up fucking him off in the end and thinking no you know what I know I'm capable of something amazing and here I am now but like like I said I'm in love now and I'm really happy and like I've I haven't had to change anything about myself like he loves me exactly who I am like literally everything about me so I haven't had to change anything about myself like he loves me exactly who I am like literally
Starting point is 00:53:46 everything about me so I don't need to like change anything but men are just mad because we we're kind of like we're making our own money we're travelling the world we're buying everything ourselves whereas before men were like we are alpha male we make money women stay at home and that's where a lot
Starting point is 00:54:02 of men's minds are still like I wouldn't make her wifey bitch you haven't fucking got nothing I want anyway like what the fuck you wouldn't make me wifey what have you got
Starting point is 00:54:11 a fucking BMW on lease fuck off do you know what I mean though I think in that situation they would be your wifey well exactly
Starting point is 00:54:22 but like you know what I mean everyone's entitled to be happy if people want to be in relationships be in relationships you don't want to be
Starting point is 00:54:28 don't want to be don't do it and just do what makes you happy and I've always done that apart from the one time when I sacked everything off
Starting point is 00:54:36 because I thought I'm going to have to give this a real chance I'll stop stripping I'll do it normally and it just like it made me unhappy made me not be who I was it made me try and like fit into this real world with a real job and it just like i just made me unhappy made me not be who i was it made me try and like
Starting point is 00:54:46 fit into this real world with a real job and it just wasn't me like i didn't want to do that again like i think when you when you look at it now so there's top end athletes um who need to make a decision between their sport and their family right you know if you're a female sprinter who's 30 years old, you've probably got maybe another Olympics or another couple of Olympics and that's it. But also that biological clock's going and you're thinking, well, hang on a second, I need to make a decision here
Starting point is 00:55:16 between whether I want a family, do I want to continue down this road with my sport? Everyone is making these, men do it, women do it in high pressure positions, people that are lawyers, that are doctors, stuff like that, working long hours. They would need to take time off,
Starting point is 00:55:31 potentially take a pay cut, not be overlooked for promotion, all this sort of stuff, happening all the time. The difference is that the industry is dominated by women, the one that you're talking about. And it was only a hundred years ago that women didn't have the vote. I know.
Starting point is 00:55:46 It's mad, isn't it? I'm telling you now in the next like 20 years, like things are going to be even more different. I think, and women are just going to, like, I know more and more lesbians now. Like, this is crazy. I know more and more girls. You'll go like, she's not your normal looking lesbian. And they're getting in relationships with girls, good looking girls with each other because they're just fucking sick of men.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Like, honestly, like it's mad. Everything's changing. Soon men will be extinct. Well, I mean, the problem with lesbian relationships is that they need men to make more lesbians. True. You know what I mean? You can't have more lesbians without more men.
Starting point is 00:56:24 But I totally get it. And, you know bizarrely from from my side as well like the sort of girls that i'm attracted to are girls who have agency over their life for me i get uninterested in a girl as soon as i sort of know everything that there is to know and i'm no longer challenged or engaged with them so bizarrely for me i probably should actually start looking on uh admire me for a girlfriend um but I don't want to pay 15 interesting so we'll see if you 5.99 5.99 cool okay when when the discount codes are up you can let me know and I'll find but yeah it will be interesting to see what happens you've this sort of industry now that is being created that direct to customer um photo and video membership site as far as cn is concerned she's been in the porn industry for
Starting point is 00:57:14 quite a while has completely changed the game for that so yeah talk us what happens next right like do you just keep growing the site yeah we're trying to make the site as best we can and then um just i don't know i want to do like i want to go into other areas of like other fields not so much the sex industry i want to go into like normal things okay i don't know what yet so here's a question actually a good way to sort of round it up one of the concerns we've spoken about today is the fact that girls are potentially restricted with what they can do career-wise outside of that so you're best off setting yourself up with your money basically that's my point buying your houses or getting yourself doing some girls do it on the side from
Starting point is 00:57:54 doing nails and then buy their own shop and you know things like that you can do yourself restaurants bars you know i mean theging beauty industry now hair and beauty there's so much money in that now like like makeup things like that never ever gonna die down
Starting point is 00:58:11 like nails extensions eyelash extensions everyone I know has got frigging eyelash extensions like I don't have them on
Starting point is 00:58:18 can't be arsed every other every other lass I know has them on every other lass them individual ones everyone's doing it so and they're like 60 quid you know for them and they Every other lass. Them individual ones. Everyone's doing it.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And they're like 60 quid, you know, for them. And it takes an hour to do them. So people are making good money. There's all these different industries that you can put your money into courses to learn more things. But you've just got to get that capital and potentially... Save your money. Obviously, don't blow it all on Louis Vuitton and shit like that. And a Lambo and a quarter million pound handbag. What was the handbag you were on about?
Starting point is 00:58:44 Oh, no. I haven't got a quarter million pound what was the handbag? mine's a Hermes Birkin I've got a seven grand mine wasn't it's a colour what? a Hermes Birkin
Starting point is 00:58:52 okay but there is ones for like 250 grand obviously I don't have one like that but yeah like obviously imagine if you lost your phone on a night out and lost a handbag I've lost a grand phone and a seven grand handbag
Starting point is 00:59:04 I would never take that handbag out. Wow. But I don't go out. But yeah, obviously I bought a Lambo and stuff like that. And that was because I've already got two houses that I own outright with no mortgage. And yeah, I already got loads of handbags and stuff. And I just felt like treating myself to something crazy. So I got the Lambo.
Starting point is 00:59:22 But I could have bought another house for that. But like, I just think, think fuck it you only live once don't you? I think especially with the sort of income that you guys have got going on yeah maybe like 50 grand a month what's going to happen? I love it I am going to buy some properties rent them out
Starting point is 00:59:37 and then I'm looking into like other businesses that I won't say because I don't really like talking about it I don't know it's definitely going to happen yeah that's just me like my plan really it sounds bizarrely one of the things that hopefully would be really interesting to hear from the people that have been listening today is were you the person that they expected to hear like I would like to hear that people always say they're surprised by me obviously my YouTube videos show a bit of my personality,
Starting point is 01:00:06 which I've only just started doing. But I know there's more to me than you've known me for years. There's more to me than just tits and arse and fanny. That's a big part of it. Yeah. But I am like a normal person underneath. I'm just boring, if anything. I just like sitting in the house in my pajamas with my dogs,
Starting point is 01:00:22 walking my dogs. I'm just a normal person, really, who just happens to have shown me body and made some money. But I don't feel any different as a person. I don't have people like, oh, you've got no self-respect and stuff like that. I'm like, self-respect is like choosing to do something that I've chose to do. Being happy, confident, making money, not hurting anybody. I can sleep at night knowing I'm doing what I'm doing for myself.
Starting point is 01:00:44 My mum was proud of me. Like, you know I'm doing for myself my mum was proud of me like you know what I mean like she was proud of me she used to like show everyone my nuts and zoo covers
Starting point is 01:00:51 in the shop she worked in Tesco she'd be like that's my daughter and stuff like that she was always proud of me so and my dad doesn't care
Starting point is 01:00:58 at all I know you're probably thinking you care you care to a certain extent but my dad's still laid back and like he just like
Starting point is 01:01:04 doesn't care at all I always joke about being a porn star in front lay back and like he just like doesn't care at all like I always joke about being a porn star in front of him and stuff he just doesn't care when he gets a Sunday lift to the pub in Lambeau
Starting point is 01:01:12 he probably thinks when he's in Sheward and he saw one he rang me he goes I'm gonna come because he lives in Durham I love him heartily
Starting point is 01:01:16 he's like I'm gonna pop down I'll come see you for a bit and then can I take your car out for a drive I went yeah if you want so he comes down comes see me for a bit
Starting point is 01:01:23 and then goes for a drive in the car then drags the arse off the Lambo for a little bit then takes his Hyundai yeah dad we'll do a car swap for the week you can get the dogs
Starting point is 01:01:35 in the Hyundai though because you can't get them in the Lambo no that's why I kept the Range Rover because the boot's big enough for the dogs but if not it's just a
Starting point is 01:01:42 nightmare like the Lambo's so unpractical impractical whatever the word is anyway it's not practical it's fast as fuck it's big enough for the dogs but if not it's just a nightmare like the lambo is so unpractical impractical whatever the word is anyway it's not practical it's fast as fuck it's very fast look
Starting point is 01:01:50 where should people go they want to find out more about you they want to find out about the site they've got an inquiry where do they go if you want to see
Starting point is 01:01:56 my tits for free go on my twitter at chelseafargo if you want to see what I get up to on a day to day basis my instagram at chelseafargo
Starting point is 01:02:03 if you want to come and see me fanny my arsehole and me sucking a dick it's adamayamee.vip forward slash ChelseaFergo
Starting point is 01:02:10 there you go that's all you need links will be in the show notes below thanks it's been a pleasure man thank you nice to see you

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