Modern Wisdom - #140 - Michael Malice - Dating, Cheetos, Liquor, Biden, Bernie & Fitness

Episode Date: February 6, 2020

Michael Malice is an author, political commentator & podcaster. What happens if Biden or Bernie end up going head to head with Trump in 2020? Who created Flamin' Hot Cheetos? Why is fast fashion killing the wiping rags industry? Is it hard dating when you were once on reality TV? What is the most popular Spirit on the planet? All this & more with my new best friend, Michael. Extra Stuff: Check out The Protein Works - https://bit.ly/TPWChrisWillx Buy Michael's Book - https://amzn.to/31soCH7 Follow Michael on Twitter - https://twitter.com/michaelmalice Take a break from alcohol and upgrade your life - https://6monthssober.com/podcast Check out everything I recommend from books to products - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I couldn't recommend them more highly. On to today's guest, Michael Malice fell in love with him on Joe Rogan. I've been listening to him for years and I finally managed to lock him down and sit him in front of a microphone so that I could have a chat with him. Michael is really, really quick thinking, very, very witty. So my goal for this podcast was just to find a bunch of very random facts from the internet and hear what he had to say aboutitty. So my goal for this podcast was just to find a bunch of very random facts from the internet and hear what you had to say about them. So that is precisely what we did. So today you will learn who created Flaming Hot Cheetos. You will learn why fast fashion is destroying the wiping rags business. You will get to hear how many people were

born in the UK with the name Nigel in 2016. And you'll also get to hear how many people were born in the UK with the name Nigel in 2016, and you'll also get to hear his thoughts and my thoughts on my dating life. So yeah, get ready for this one. Please welcome the wise and wonderful Michael Males. Oh yeah, PS, don't forget to hit subscribe every week, Monday and Thursday and releasing episodes with the most fascinating humans on the planet planet and you don't want to miss them. Michael Malice in the building. Wooo! That's true.

There he is. Hi. How are you? I'm great. Fantastic. What's been happening? Actually, no. First off, Dave Rubin got you in a full ensemble and I get you in a t-shirt.

What's happening? Uh, yeah. Well, you also, this is Skype. You want to, when you get a studio and not a bedroom, then I'll dress appropriately. I'm in my pajamas, see? Oh, those are nice. That's a nice check on the bottom, the bottom half. Thank you.

You look good. And I've got nice farm socks for no reason. So you're from Newcastle. Correct. I'm going to impress you and make you uncomfortable. Hit me. The one thing I know about Newcastle, which no other American knows, is Mary Bell. I don't know that.

What's that? Mary Bell was 10 or 11 and she was the youngest person convicted of murder in Britain. She killed two toddlers and then she went to their house and she's like, I want to see Billy and they're like, he's dead love and she's like, I want to see him in his coffin and they sentenced her to their house and she's like I want to see Billy and they're like he's dead love and she's like I want to see him in his coffin and they sentenced her to jail at age 11 she's from Newcastle she's a Jordi you didn't know this that is the most harrowing story that I've ever heard yeah and they left like notes like oh there's murders around like a little kid handwriting yeah you didn't know about this no not at all yeah yeah the book's called Cry's Unheard. Fuck me.

What a way to stop Michael. Come on. I've got stories about flaming cheetos and stuff and you're talking about like child murder, child and child crime. Yeah. Wow. Come on then.

That's how I first, the other thing is that's how I learned about that Newcastle is a thing other than the beer which I adore, but also the thing they discussed in the book Which you're gonna have to do for me is they talked they said the Jordy accent is like the most unique accent in all of Britain Probably not too far off correct. Yeah, so when you get really really thick. It's it's essentially another language You got a word right next to Scotland We are which is close. Yeah, which genuinely is another language.

So yeah, there's some people, if I was to rule you out into the streets of Newcastle and just get you to try and translate, I think you might have a bad time. Yeah, or a fun time, yeah. Or a fun time. So come on, tell me what's been happening in your world at the moment. I don't know, I just, I have my shows, my, my, my, my books out last May. I, I'm just, I like, you know, being a Jackass on Twitter. Um, and just, I don't know, having a great 2020, if you're having a good 2020 so far, 2020 has been sick. I've got a question for you. What is your favorite meme of 2020 so far? I'm, uh, of 2020. It's been short.

You're not think there's been much good stuff. I haven't seen much good stuff. I am blanking. Have there been any good memes so far this year? What are some suggestions? It depends on what you call. I mean, this standing on a box, this Bloomberg box thing. I don't know if that classes is a meme, but oh my god, like that is just. It's I don't know, I've seen better. You don't like that one? No, I mean, I'm a munchkin myself,

and there's so much worse things to hit him over. Okay, go eat. I think when you do the body shaming stuff, it's weak. Because like when they say Trump, can I curse in this show? Fire away, man. So when they talk about like how Trump has a small dick, it's like, okay, like where are you going with this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand I get that that's not the problem with Bloomberg

The problem is he's like a you know crazy person He was our mayor. I'm from Brooklyn. You know, I remember his mayorship. Mm-hmm. What was that like? It wasn't that bad, but you knew if you scratch the surface this person is dangerous because he was very much a i'm going to manage every aspect of your life for your own good you know he was trying to have to think of plans about how to have them and how to have any cars

to force everyone into public transport he was i think you guys have that in london where like the tolls on bridges change depending what time of day you use. So like everything is this kind of engineered from the top, very kind of benevolent, brave new world kind of situation. So yeah, I'm not a particular fan of his. You got this dystopian future with Bloomberg at the head of it.

If he got in power, yeah, I mean, because he's got a lot of ideas and when people in government have ideas, that's when things get dangerous when they have that power as well. Yeah, correct. Yeah. So, have you heard of Wall Street bets on Reddit? I'm not. You know, this is. I'm not.

Oh, man. This is precisely your sort of thing. So, I basically, I have absolutely no structure today, but I've just got a load of individual facts that we can talk about when we can go through. And Wall Street Bets is something I got introduced to recently, so it's a subreddit. And on here, people make the most insane trades, like just someone who will remogge their entire house and put it on Apple's stock going down by 5% by Thursday at 12 mid-day Okay, and just literally leverage their entire life purely for internet points from strangers that they've never met Wow, that does not seem normal. No, but it is very fun

And if you just have a look there's something called the dankest Wall Street Bet trades, which is like I do like called the Dankest Wall Street Bet Trades, which is like, I do like, which is like a quarterly roundup on YouTube that's like, commentated and it's all of the Dankest bets that someone's made. And that's some of them are really good. Like, someone who makes like 200 grand in a couple of days, but most of them are just people blowing the whole life savings, like taking money out of their wives account to like, they re-mogage the house and do everything student loans in there as well. And then yeah, everything goes out the window. You need to check it out. Okay, that sounds very disturbing.

A little bit. Not just disturbing as a child killing another child though, Michael. You should read the notes. I can't even repeat them. The language in them. Oh my God. Yeah. Right, okay.

I've got another thing to talk about actually because you're a super expert on North Korea, right? But when you're not here and anything about it at the moment, it's all China. China. China. It makes me sad because for a little window there, you know, I went there, I wrote a book about it, dear reader, I mean, this has been my work for a few years, like kind of proselytizing, you know, on behalf of these people who are all slaves and China shipped the focus from the dictatorship to the population there. And it was very disturbing to see the subtext,

much more in the states than in, you know, I was on the BBC doing talks on this, but this is much more in the states where the focus here is so much that Trump is the devil, it almost sounds like you're wanting this to fail. Whereas, you should very much be hoping that fine, he's the devil, but let's hope this devil pulls that out of wind on behalf of these people who have been in the slay for 70 years. Now that it's completely fallen by the wayside, it's very, very discouraging.

It's clearly not as much of a priority for the president and the media. And while that happens, the people, once you go there, everyone I've met is still there. I cease my guide on Instagram. She's very wealthy by North Korean standards. She knows she's in a prison. She knows she can ever leave. If she leaves, her family will be murdered publicly

to make an example. That's how they do it. So it's very, very disheartening that it is kind of fallen by the wayside. And it's also disturbing that China is going in a North Korean direction. North Korean has something called Sungban. And in the 50s, they interviewed everyone in the country, literally everybody. And they figured out how reliable your family is, these are the government. And they slotted everyone, it's like a credit score into three classes, a hostile, wavering

or loyal. And this determines everything about your life, including what city you live in, whether you can go to college, you know, who you marry and things like that. And now China is talking about doing this kind of social credit system, which will determine whether you can leave the country. It's very, very discouraging. Although the Hong Kong stuff is a little bit of a wave hope. Yeah, I was talking to a data scientist a couple of weeks ago, and he was saying that because we have GDPR in the UK,

you guys in America don't really have that, but you have some data protection laws and China is just like complete Wild West. Like there is no there is no limit to what people can do. So here's one Insurance companies using people's GPS data on their phone and If they find out that you are sleeping consistently in two different locations And if they find out that you are sleeping consistently in two different locations, that is strongly affecting your credit score. And the reason is, if you're consistently sleeping in two different locations, it means

that you are likely to be in a relationship. If you're in a relationship, you'll get engaged. If you get engaged, you'll get married. And if you get married, you'll probably get divorced, which means that you're a credit risk. But is it also if you're in two places, you're more likely to get into car accident? Maybe that as well. Yeah, because you're traveling more.

Or they're also using the speed at which people fill in their details on insurance forms to affect the amount they pay for insurance. Really? So if you fill, they have a type of like the scraping, the data about how much time it takes someone to fill in. And if it takes X amount of time, then this happens. And if it takes X plus two, then this happens, and X plus three, then this happens. Yeah, but there's a lot of research behind this. This is not

based on nothing. Actuaries, it's amazing how quantifiable I think most human behavior is. Most human beings aren't really capable of critical thought or original action. So we don't know where this is based on, but I don't think it's T-leads. No, not at all. It's absolutely so the guy that I was speaking to was like, look, all that they've done is modeled two different things. Yeah. The AI that they've got that's working behind this isn't malevolent or nefarious. It's not going, I'm going to pick out the old people, or I'm going to pick out the people in relationship, it is that in the past, if someone has characteristic A, N, B, and they're just modeling that, but the fact is that you can't hide the data,

like previously your data about whether or not you are in a relationship, or whether or not you are take a 10 minutes longer to fill in your social security number, or whatever it might be, wouldn't have been publicly available, wouldn't have been used at least to affect. are take 10 minutes longer to fill in your social security number or whatever it might be, wouldn't have been publicly available. I wouldn't have been used at least to affect it. That's very crazy that is public. That's really, yeah, because I mean, I bet you like there's a correlation between people who watch modern family and a beverage that they drink, right?

And some others show some other beverage. That's how data works, but that's very, oh, that's that's weird. Yeah, it is. You know what the most popular type of porn is in India for men From man India. It's not fucking cows is it no am I allowed to say that? No, I mean Are you allowed to say that you are allowed to say it on the podcast? I don't know how you how much you are supposed to say it That's let me guess of India my friends it might one of my closest friends is Indian. So just to mess with him, I'm going to say, man boy.

No. What is it? Breastfeeding. Oh, because that's milk. They love milk. Is that a thing? I'm not sure if it's the milk. I don't think I think it's...

If you better rate the cow, you're going to better rate the milk. OK. Yeah. I mean, you've drawn that line that might be it. I don't know why I just know that it is. I just know that it is the most popular type of. I've never heard of anyone getting turned on by that. No, me neither. But go to India, Michael, you will be amongst friends. I'm not so I mean, I'm a fan of the breast. Let

me ask you. I mean, now let's talk about this, because this is what I want to know, okay? I have friends who are very into fitness. I have friends who are like TV models. They were on like survivor, whatever. So your job is to be an official hunk, right? That's like your gig. And you can hand wave it away and be like, oh poor little me, but that's your gig, right?

Potty. Right. Do you use like dating apps? Is your experience on these dating apps like being a girl that you just get gig, right? Partly. Right. What's it, do you use like dating apps? Is your experience on these dating apps like being a girl that you just get thousands of hits? Yeah, matches are fairly consistent, but again, what we're talking about just there, they select for a very specific type of girl.

Does that make sense? No, explain it to me, please. Okay, so there is a very specific type of girl who will swipe right on a guy that has the particular characteristics that I do and my buddies that are the same. And I don't know, it's weird. Dating isn't massively easy for me or any of the friends that I know that have come out of doing reality TV and do the whole Instagram game. I don't know anyone who has a really easy time of it. I heard that too, that it's easy to get laid,

but it's hard to get a girlfriend because the girlfriend that you want are gonna see those types floating around you and think you're not interested in her. And at the same time, it's easy for you to get laid. So maybe you're not as interested and it's going to be kind of self-isolating and it's not as, it looks a lot prettier

on the outside than it is and inside, is that correct? Two degree, I think it depends on what you're looking for in a partner. So, you know, there'll be some of the guys listening, the girls that have been on reality TV, some of the stuff I've been on. And, like, with them, some of them want someone else that is in that bracket. Okay. And then it's like, it's fantastic. It's kind of like inbreeding, but within... Sure.

...within particular social circles. But for me, I'm likeeding, but within, Sure. within, particular social circles. But for me, I'm like, Oh, fuck man, like I've done, I'm 31, I've served my time with the Dollybirds. So for me, I wanted, I want to try and find, but if you go headline title is guy who used to be on Love Island and Blue Tick and Arsl. Like that's what you see.

So when I'm, when I'm actually wanting to talk to them about the guy that's the data scientist that works out whether or not you sleep in two locations, that goes completely over their head. To find the girl who is interested in that, it's actually really challenging. Yeah, because she's going to be put off because she's going to think you're an asshole or a complete two-dimensional. My other friend, when he got very fit, what he said, and I wonder if this has been your

experience, like when he would go to the bars, the girls who he would want who are maybe eights because they've got a great personality, they are prettier than average, but they're not at that level where it gets annoying. They are put off, and the ones who are very, very forward and aggressive, like grabbing his genitals are like the really unattractive ones who just go

up to him and like cheat him like me. Is that your experience? They're also the ones with daddy issues. The ones that come up and do that are the ones who are the real sort of freaks when you... But that happens. Sometimes, I mean, it's still, it takes a very, very balsy girl to come and do that, like to be the forward thinker. I'm speaking to Heather Bollin who's an evolutionary psychologist at the end of the week. And I've been reading up a little bit about it. And it is like, there is no essentially no species

in the world where the woman is the sexual protagonist. And the same goes for it takes such a brave girl to come and do that. Do you get men being openly hostile to you when they meet you? Or like, they're not like giving you the eye? No, I think there's guys who are significantly more alpha than I am, and they might do with them. But my livelihood last 13 years has been standing on the front door in nightclubs, so I've

seen a million people walk past me in nightclubs because that's what I do. I feel clubs. And it meant that I don't know my demeanor of just kind of being accepting and normalizing of just humans in a kind of an environment, normal social environment, I think seems to kind of quell that pretty quickly. Okay, it's interesting. There's never any of that, I don't know.

I mean, what was it like for you? Talk to me about your sort of data. I'm not a hunk. That's true. I don't have to, I finally got my abs in. So I feel comfortable talking about this stuff with you. But it's very interesting how people who are outliers physically, what their experiences are,

and how different they are, and how different from how people perceive them to be. Like, again, like I have a friend who's a model, and she's complaining. There's two scenarios, one where she's complaining, I can't find a dude. Well, that's because I have a friend who's a model and she's complaining, there's two scenarios, right? One where she's complaining, I can't find a dude. Well, that's because you're a picky bitch.

But then there's the one where, yeah, the kind of guy she would want would never think to approach her because he thinks that she would never be interested in him. And when you're at her level, she doesn't need to be dating a model dude because she's like, I'm going to be the pretty one. I'm fine. I want someone who can hold my interest So it's at that level. It's very very weird. It's challenging for girls It's really challenging for girls. I think because of hypergamy, right? So women tends right naturally to date up and across and it's the problem the same problem for any girls that are listening if you are over

6 foot one like I feel for you because you because you're having a look for athletes, you know, like basketball players, stuff like that. Like girls tend not to date men that are shorter than them. So if you are, and it's the same thing goes for every other factor about a girl. If you're a nine out of ten girl or a ten out of ten girl, like the guy doesn't want his mates to always be able to say you're punching. Or if you're a girl who happens to earn half a million pounds a year, like you don't want, despite my Instagram bio saying, aspiring trophy husband,

most men don't want that. Yeah, but it's also what they find is when they're that good looking, the guy presumes that the woman won't be interested. So they'll come at them very aggressively. And when she is obviously not interested in this aggression, then they feel comfortable being very nasty to her. But they're the ones who have set up this whole kind of scenario needlessly and it becomes

self validating. It's very interesting dynamic at that level. David, it's fascinating, man. I'm rereading Mark Manson's models at the moment, which is how to attract women through honesty, essentially. And that's so, so interesting as he talks about the things that he's discovered, Mark Manson knows you shit, like the things that he's discovered make relationships work. And it's super, super, super interesting.

I got another thing that we can move on to. So flaming hot Cheetos, do you know who invented them? No. So Richard Montaniers, who was a cleaner at the Frito Lai factory. Oh. So he's now the VP of multicultural sales for PepsiCo America.

The guy couldn't read or write when he was the janitor. And while he was there, Roger and Rico, who was the CEO of Frito Le, had encouraged all of the workers to act like an owner. That's what I said, he'd given this big. You know one of those end of your announcement speech type things, Buffett and people like that give more time. And then this guy, this Richard Montanier's guy, had decided that there wasn't any Cheetos

for the Mexican markets, Mexicans love spice. And he just started like fucking around with some Cheetos and made flaming hot Cheetos and now he's the VP of multicultural sales in PepsiCo. I think I was more of a cheesed, I've always of a cheese, I've always been a cheese doodles guy myself.

You see in America, you guys just have the absolute, like laundry list of every different type of confectionery and savory idea. I'm sorry, how many types of walkers, crisps are there? Like 60. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Ron cocktail, hedgehog, mid-slam. Chicken, Tika, Masala. What are you talking about?

We can play this game. Okay, you are right. America though, I mean, sometimes when I go over, I don't know whether it's just novelty, but when I do go to America, I'm just blown away. Like some of the things that, like the breakfast cereal is one thing. Like America does breakfast cereals,

so good. Super, super impressed by that. If you go to, for the people across the pond who go to the, whenever I go to anywhere I travel, I go to the supermarket, because I love seeing all the wacky brands. If you come to America and you go down the cereal aisle, every cereal box, that's for kids,

the character looks like they're on cocaine. They're all like really excited and their teeth are showing. And you look at it, I'm like, this leprechaun is like is cranked face yeah, yeah, it's really but you have that notice count Chakka was really excited about Serial it's like he hasn't slept all night because he's been doing rails and now here comes the chocolate to top it off It's really nuts

Go look and now you can't on see it it off. It's really nuts. Go look, now you can't unsee it. If everyone goes to see, they'll be correct. Yeah, count shock viewers being up on a heavy one all night. Sure. Next up, what do you think is the world's most popular spirit by volume cell? Oh, it's a mootie from China. Byju. Byju, sorry, yeah. Byju from China. So the next closest, it tastes like gasoline. Have you had it? So I did something called the Arduous March. So, too, buy you from China. So the next close it, it tastes like gasoline. Have you had it? So I did something called the arduous march. So two, I think it's twice. I had fans chip in money. And we bought, we did this once with 32 bottles and once with 40 bottles. And me and my crew did a quarter

shot to see if we can get through all of these. Yeah, you spoke about this on Rogan, yeah, I remember. Yeah, yeah, and it was all these weird liquors, the weirder the better. And one of them, of the 32, the, it was Muay Thai, I guess it's type of Baju, was by far the worst. Nothing was even close to as bad. What's interesting. It was horrific. It was a mix of like soy sauce and like,

what's it like, just straight off the bat, it's so racist.'s so racist. But it does, it has that salty, like metallic taste. Got you. Yep. And then like me, it was, and it tasted like maybe some kind of cleanser. It was horrifying. And that it keeps, the taste stays with you, you know, in your mouth.

And I think how it works is they do shots all night and get like really whatever the word for plastered is in Newcastle. And after a while you don't taste anything I think is how it works is it kills your taste buds. Burns the sensation away. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck.

Yeah, it's really bad. Ten billion liters a bottle. And some fucking $100 a bottle. It gets really expensive. Fodca, five billion liters a year. Buy you ten billion liters a year, buy you 10 billion liters a year. Yeah. Shit, man.

Right. Next up, drunk shopping is a $45 billion per year industry. Okay. Why'd you drunk shop? You have a drunk shop? I don't really drink because I get meaner when I drink. Me, meaner than usual? Yeah.

Oh, God. And then does someone need to take your Twitter off you? Take me what? Take your Twitter off you? No, no, I'm in a person. Oh, OK. Right. Got you. Yeah, I'm Russian.

So we are very good at being cruel. And I'm also funny. So then the next day, I feel guilty when I say just really nasty things. And your surname is Malice. Yeah, Malice by name, Malice by nature as Roger Hargreese would say. I have never done drunk shopping. I don't think I have. It's like online. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So apparently, 444 pounds is the average annual spend of a drunk shopper. Clothing and shoes, most common purchase in Amazon is the most highly drunk shopped. Okay, if I'm drunk and I get home, I'm going to bed.

I'm not going online, I'm not going to go shop. Do you? No, no, I don't. I'm just thinking, I'm wondering if this is the married woman. Yeah. Not gonna bootie call, you know, it's not a UUP 2. 230 AM text that she's going to send to like a bunch of people. Which by the way, we have a series called Life Hacks on the podcast. A Life Hack which will never be featured on there, but I'm gonna put on now is one that a friend used to use.

He has a broadcast list on WhatsApp of 3 AM girls, 4 AM girls and 5 AM girls. And that is like in descending order of preference that he will send a like what you up to and just broadcast it to the whole list individually. And then if they reply great, but if no one does then it goes to the 4am list, then he sends that and then if no one reply, then it's like the 5am list and that.

It's like Dante's in Fernow. Yeah, he should descend through the circle. Yeah, he descend and it gets from the source. It's a very basic Judas being chewed by Satan. Oh, I've had, right. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. Because I think is, when I'm gonna stop drinking,

that's when I go home, and I'm not going online at all. It's gotta be when you're drinking by yourself. Yeah, so you double double-screening, you've got you'd like modern family or whatever on, and it's like a Tuesday, 9 p.m. And you've got a bottle of wine, and you just, yeah, and some soup for yourself. Yeah, and then you buy some more.

You buy some more soup for wine, yeah. You buy some more soup. Right, what else have we got here? This one's so good, Michael. Okay. Right, so emojis are starting to appear soup. What else have we got here? This one's so good, Michael. So emojis are starting to appear in evidence in court cases. And lawyers are worried when emoji symbols are strung together, we don't have a reliable way of interpreting their meaning. In 2017, an Israeli judge had to decide if one emoji filled message constituted a verbal contract.

So this guy had replied about coming to inquire about a house and he was trying to work out like if the monkey or chipmunk on the end was some sort of positive reinforcement that he actually meant that he was going to like come and do something with this house. My favorite series of emojis, Coach Lickter, he's a senior columnist at Town Hall. He goes after the Bill Crystal types for publicans. And what he invented was the fist, the egg plant, and then the squirting water. It's a classic. It's so much better than the finger. Yeah, it's really, really great. So it's so much better than the finger. Yeah, it's really, really great. It's so pretty to Kirk for that. Yeah. Yeah.

What I tell you what, you can tell a lot from a man by what is most frequently used emojis are. Have you got your phone nearby? Can we see you? Most I don't use this. I don't do them on the phone. I do my Twitter. I'll tell you what they are. Okay. I know them off my head. The blowing kiss one. Yeah. Because if someone sends me a nice tweet, and I don't want to write a long reply, a blowma kiss. Yeah. Or if I'm being like nasty to somebody

else, I'd be like, or maybe I'll ask your mom blowing a kiss. The other one is if I'm being really snide and bitchy on Twitter, I'll do the nail polish one to signify this. Queen. Queen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I asked queen. Yeah. Just got the nail polish You know if someone says something like well, maybe not with that shirt on you know, then the nail polish comes out And the other one I use is Although less frequently Since Bolsonaro took over Brazil is the helicopter emoji So the helicopter emoji and I talked about this in book, is when Pinochet took over Chile in

1979 in a military coup, he took a lot of communists and non-communists, apparently, and in helicopters and through them in the ocean. So when you see someone on Twitter who's being particularly egregious, you just reply with the helicopter, and they won't know what it is, but everyone else will. But now that we've got a guy in Brazil who's kind of in that direction and it's not that funny, I've used it much less. Yeah, you got to roll back on that. But getting the sea is a very good response to anyone

that just that needs to leave, that needs to depart the conversation. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Fast fashion is wiping, is hitting the wiping rags business. So what's the wiping rags? W wiping rags? So there's billions of years Wiping rags it's a rag for wiping Michael. Okay. Yeah, okay So 30% of textiles that are recovered for recycling in the US get used to wipe shit

Painters need to wipe up their spludges. Okay, like cloths Wait, so it's are they paper towels or they cloths? They're cloths. Okay. So it's like textile material, right? So you're an engineer who's got to clean down some of the oil or whatever on a machinery, all this sort of stuff. And apparently fast fashion.

So this like, do you guys have like pretty little thing and kind of imagine any dress that Kendall Jenner is on an affiliate deal for okay? It cost about $20 and And every girl owns it. What it's like a disposable dress right like a single-use dress or a single-use t-shirt That's fast fashion and this clothing quality is so low That it's annihilating the wiping rags business because they literally can't stand up to wiping shit. Okay. So it's such such bad quality that once you've worn it, when you try to wipe some paint up with it, it just falls to pieces. So there you go. You got to be careful about what you buy. I'm the opposite. I am a big denim collector, right? I've got 30 pairs of jeans and the trick with the raw denim is, yeah, but you wear it for years

because it breaks down and you get the fades, you know what I mean? And it kind of adapts to your body and, you know what I mean? That's the fun of it, right? And you almost never wash them. So this is the exact opposite of the kind of fashion I like. Like I like it when you're close, you know, like if you have corduroy's where the whales have worn down over seven years,

that's fun, you know what I mean? Because I hate, this is what drives me crazy. This is my autism speaking. When you have clothes that are distressed, but you bought them new, like with the faded logos, that's so, it drives me crazy. I wanna have that t-shirt that's been through the wash 30 times and now the letters are falling off.

That's fun, because I put in the work. Yeah, you wanna feel like it's a shortcut to success. Yes, I've earned it. This is my, this is my sweat patches. Exactly. Fuck. Yeah, I'm a man who probably shortcuts that, but then I buy cheap stuff. I mean, I spend my nights surrounded by drunken students on the front door of a nightclub.

I don't want anything nice. Everything nice that I own is destroyed. How annoying is it? Are they all up in your face about the show and about Insta? They were when it was a little bit more recent. So it's been like four and a half years now. A little bit more.

I got bored from the front door of my own event by my business partner. Because when I would walk around outside, there would just be this throng of people that would like, like, like cats jumping up and down as something. But that's kind of chilled now, so I can actually do my job again, which is nice. Do you get hit out more by chicks or by dudes? Chicks, I give off a real bad gay vibe. It's just really? yeah, my gay diet, oh, I don't know how it works.

My gay diet is accurate for other people, but my like appearance on the gay diet for people that are gay. No. Huh, I thought the pretty guys get a hit on the most. I did not know this, okay, interesting. I'm not sure. We were asking this question the other day.

I wanna know if you're a gay man, like how do you know if you're like a top or a bottom? I have no, I don't know. What do you know, I mean, like if you're a game and like how do you know if you're if you're like a top or a bottom? I've no I don't know But do you know I mean like if you're listening and can you please explain like do you do sometimes swap is it? You know is it always a one a one way street type thing? I want to know because on an ungrinder You can choose whether or not your top or bottom. Oh, okay. I'll choose both. I. But like, how do you know? And what if two tops arrive? Or two, but I think the analog would be, do you like choking her in bed or do you like getting choked in bed, right? But you can still have sex either way. Right, but it's more like which

is the more dominant and which is the more submit. I don't know. I think we're talking about things we're not really familiar with. We definitely aren are. That is definitely correct. What else have we got here? Oh, mushrooms, mushrooms and truffles are more closely related to humans than they are to plants. Yeah, because of the proteins. Yeah. And they breathe in. I only found this out the other day that they breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide. What the fuck? Yeah, yeah, there, and that's why they're used as meat analogs. I didn't know this. Yeah, yeah.

So I mean, if you think about how fungus works, it basically breaks down plant matter into its own form. So in a very, very primitive way, that's like eating. Yeah, they split off. So there was plants at the top and then usen plants split off. But after usen plants split off, usen fungi split off. So there was plants at the top and then us and plants split off, but after us and plants split off, us and fungi split off. Wait, I thought fungi came before plants. No? No. Oh, interesting. Okay. So we are part of a lineage that's after that.

Okay, that's very cool. Yeah, yeah. I thought that was interesting. And then I mean, Paul Stammitz has got all this stuff, right? Where he goes on about the Mycelium under the floor that can talk to each other a million miles away and all this stuff. I just got a fossil of something called Dickinsonia, which looks like a quilted circle. For a long time, they didn't know whether it's a fungus or a jellyfish or a plant, or since it's the oldest fossil or something that is not related to anything contemporaneous, and then somehow they found cholesterol molecules in one of the fossils. So now they know it was actually an animal.

So it's really weird how things that look nothing like us just based on the chemical composition we can figure out what it is, right? Because fungus looks so different. Some fungus don't have fruiting bodies. They are completely parasitic, whatever. Tonal fungus doesn't look like a mushroom to us, right? We don't know if it's a virus and infection, you know, bruise. So just the thing and we can look based on how for billions of years there's certain things that have stayed the same. Is that weird? It's crazy, man. I absolutely

love thinking about that stuff. You've mentioned there, you mentioned a couple of times buying stuff, random shit from the internet. What have you been spiked funding recently? And can you, for the people who don't know what that is, can you explain what it is? So I had this idea once when someone came for me on Twitter, I said, it would be a real shame if people gave me money for something I didn't want just to spiked you. And the donations kept coming in.

I have a bunch of stuff right here, I'll show you. And I'm like, all right, so here, I have, this is a pen, you're not going to be able to see it really, made out of four-dite. Four-dite is what happens in factories when after years of hand spray painting, it makes layers and layers and layers, and it's kind of a synthetic mineral. So this is a pen made out of four-dite. This is another pen, this is from a corvette factory. That is cool.

Then I have a pen stand made out of a walrus tusk. I did not need this, but they paid for it. After a while, it gets harder to find things to buy. This is a pen from South Africa made out of a word hog tusk. Oh my god. I don't need seven pens. This pen is made out of... You write much? Do you ever write? Have you ever written anything?

Well, not with my pens. I'm an author. I use computer. This one is made of wood from the DMZ between the Koreas. That's pretty cool. That's cool. That's cool. It's fuck. But also, I have hand.

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Yeah. Who has got hold of that piece of wood? So the guy who made it, his friend was stationed Who has got hold of that piece of wood? So the guy who made it, his friend was stationed in the South Korean park. And he just ran and sent it back to... Fuck me. That's a dangerous...

Yeah, it's really fun, despite funding thing. I'm looking right now with a signed photo of Andy Kaufman, who's my hero, I hanged, hanging above my head. So it's really fun, a stick to do. And what else do you think about anything else at the moment, or is it just sort of spur of the moment? I'm got a pair of tribal print pants,

corduroy from Japan, in honor of Elizabeth Warren, but someone bought them from under me so the money still in escrow, but that was it, yeah. And when Kamala Harris, I know how got familiar they are with her over there she was this cop who was running for president just really at an abomination of a human being uh... so when she lost we had a ham

uh... because the pig was roasted i guess you call them the filth over there right uh... we had uh... uh... ham roasting ham tasting i had the spanish ham all the hamster world yet uh... actually all that's really fun let me tell you something interesting. The first time I did an interview with the BBC, and this is a very shocking moment to me, and I'm going to offend some people,

and I apologize in advance. I was born in Russia, so the way the Soviets, Russians look at the police, is very different from the states. And I was doing an interview in the BBC for something, and they said, oh, this website you work on, you guys make a lot of jokes about the police. And I thought, you know, Britain's much more left in the States.

And I said, well, it's like my dad always told me, and this is true, like wherever you go on earth, whenever you find yourself, the dumbest people in the cops. And they audibly gasped and they go, this is a family show. And they changed the subject. And that was the first time I realized how that is politically incorrect to say. It was very jarring because I wasn't cursing or anything. How would that joke have gone down in America? Oh, it would not go down here.

Here would be very controversial. I'd get a lot of heat for it. So I bite my tongue. I didn't realize the animus was out of proportion to the very weak bit of humor that there was to it. And you just didn't think he didn't know how it was gonna land? I didn't think it was gonna land bad at all,

because this is Europe. So I assumed it was going to be the same as in Russia, and it was not. It was much closer to the States. Definitely is. Yeah, it is. What else will be? Oh, no babies born in Britain in 2016 were called Nigel. You know, I love him and I'm in love with him. I have a few friends that are called Nigel that are dying breed. He is, I met him at the studio once and I go to him, Mr. Farage, what do you think of Enoch Powell? And he goes, he's an interesting man. Very interesting. And I'm like, all right, I got you.

Well, that's what Russell Brand called him in. He called him the pound shop Enoch Powell. Did he? Yeah, Russell Brand. He referred it to him, I think, on question time as they're sat on the same panel. He was like five yards away from him and said he's the pound shop, Enoch Powell. Do people in the UK not appreciate the savagery when he goes to the European Parliament and basically takes a shit on the desk?

I think British people have a very unique sense of humor. Sure. And I actually don't think that they find what Farage does British people have a very unique sense of humor. Sure. And I actually don't think that they find what Farage does as funny as what Farage does is. Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah, because to me, I don't know how many people saw it. Like, when Brexit finally happened and he gave us a little speech and they all got up and started waving their little union jacks,

it was so, so stupid and so, so funny. And then the lady at the front of the room was like, sit out and get rid of your flags. And he's like, don't worry, relieve your room. And I'm like, this is hilarious. And it's not meant to be taken seriously at all. It's clearly clownish intentionally. And I don't, I, people here in the States

get very, very upset by Trump tweets when they're the stupidest thing ever. And I'm like, how are you giving this the power to yeah, I get it's the president, but this in all the things he's done, this is the one that gets you upset, that he's, you know, making fun of this person. I mean, how are you, how do you have this much energy to be this triggered after this much time? Man, this is what I replied to you on Twitter yesterday. You retweeted a video of some people protesting outside of the White House ringing bells and standing shame and that the first thought into my mind was I don't understand how these people have so much time Right. I dream of having that much spare time that I could go and do that. I need to manage

my schedule more efficiently or get them to do it. They need to be doing more drunk shopping. They do. Well, they've bought, obviously, fuck, Richard. We've bought this bell from Amazon. I was wasted. What am I going to do with it? Why don't we go to the White House and then it'll look. Well, post-hoc rationalize the bell purchase and make it look like it was social justice. And we can make this all right off. Yep, and it's tax deductible. Yeah, it was used as part of content. I mean, this year, 2020, all that's going to happen is election shit, right?

That's all that's going on. How do you see the rest of this year playing out? What's going to happen? I, to well, tonight, as we record, is the Iowa Prime caucuses, which is the first voting in the Democratic nomination. And over the last week, it's become full-blown warfare between the establishment and the Bernie Sanders people, which I absolutely love any kind of political carnage.

Depending on what happens tonight, it looks like it's going to get very, very, very ugly, very, very, very quickly. Bernie has already been launching ads explicitly attacking the Democratic Party, which I think is historically unprecedented. He says, they add like, we make Trump nervous, we make the insurance companies nervous, we make the Democratic establishment nervous. I don't think that's really. Even Trump never really went after the quote-unquote Republican establishment. So, he and he's surging. So, if that is validated

by a win, I don't know what they are already talking to DNC, the Democrat National Committee, what they can do to stop this guy. So, it might get even more public and even more brazen up. You might not have seen this across the pond, but, you know, Elizabeth Warren said he said to her that a woman can't get elected president. They try to play it off like he's saying a woman shouldn't get elected president. And on MSNBC, one of our networks, which is failing badly, a joy and read had a body language expert to prove that Bernie was lying. I mean, this is basically a tea leaves. It was so to be that brazen and I'm hardly a Bernie person,

is gonna be great. We're gonna see unprecedented machinations on both sides of the Democratic parties. And you're having the same thing. You have the real life titanium agraft, Rebecca Long Bailey, about to take over for Jeremy Corbin, and she's saying that inequality keeps her up at night.

It's like, get some rest, bitch, come down. Yeah, I mean, that what is going to happen in the UK? The thing about the UK is politics is so short-lived for us. Like in America, ever since 2016, all that anyone in America's wanted to talk about is how did Trump get elected? Then there's like the great hack on Netflix, which was that documentary about how the Cambridge analytic scandal, then there's like the great hack on Netflix, which was that documentary about how the Cambridge Analytica scandal, then there's like all this Ukraine stuff, then

there's impeachment stuff, then there's Russian hacking and Russian bot farms, and it's just been four years constantly of post-Hawk rationalizing what the fuck happened, right? And with the UK, as soon as, so on the couple of weeks leading up to the election there was all rousing people with roses in their bio and and and for the many not the few and all this stuff two weeks later is all forgotten two weeks later love islands on or so I'm a celebrity get me out of here's on on iTV on the TV channel so they're just calling someone a fat bitch on TV that's all that happens. What was your reaction when you saw Diane Abbott wearing I mean that I actually love her like I love her a lot because she's what people make fun of her

We have people like Diane Abbott here the thing where I think I really respect her is she knows how to stick to it the message I really respect her. Is she knows how to stick to the message, right? She was on with Pierce Morgan and he's like, what's labor's plan for immigration? And she's like, Piers, the Tories don't, it's not working and it's disaster. He's like, okay, fine, what's your plan? I've told you, Piers, the Tories, and I'm sitting there, I'm like, I respect a politician who's getting punched in the face and is not reacting. That takes skill and that takes fortitude. I'm not being ironic or sarcastic because here they get

flustered, they freak out. So she's disciplined. So it's a, I find her very, very interesting. When you see that single mind in the soy sore on election night as soon as the exit polls happened, someone somewhere in the Labour Party had trickled down, call it a Brexit issue, call it a Brexit vote. And that was all you heard. From the first guy that came out, and then I can't remember who it was, one of the panel pundits on the side of the BBC

had managed to get a leaked message memorandum type thing that had gone around, which was like, right, this is the party line. And he was reading through this leaked thing on air and just saying, and just saying like, yeah, they're just saying just focus on Brexit, call it a Brexit issue, because then the fingers kind of not really pointed at the fact that we didn't have any good policies. Yeah, and then Brexit's going to be resolved, so now we're going to have a clean slate next time. Yeah, which I don't think is going to change anything either. Okay, so we've got that with

Bernie moving forward. Have you got, do you put your money where your mouth is with stuff for what's going to happen later this year? Or do you not do that this far out? I put my money where my mouth is that I donated money to Biden because I want a year of him campaigning. He just recently went to the coal miners and told them, if know how to shovel coal you can learn how to program a computer Which is a lie that's not accurate I don't if someone knows that he's a computer doesn't mean they can shovel coal either So his son being an admitted crackhead The fact that we can use the word crackhead and have it be funny again whenever he tweets

I always tweet with a response of a crack pipe and people reply to me That's not a crack pipe That's a meth pipe and how foolish it may not to know the distinction between the two or they correct me He's not the crack had his son is the crack So I want a year of this plus he's been getting very very Fisty on the campaign trail. He's been yelling at people He's been turning his backs on them. He's been telling them to vote for Trump. So angry old man Biden is this kind of bubbling understory that I really need to see a lot more of. And my dream is that he gets the nomination and he gets,

let's say physically incapacitated some God forbid. And then the party steals it and gives it the Hillary, which is not an impossibility at all and I would desperately love that to happen. I want to see her lose three times. So any mommy movie, you're going to have a trilogy, right? You need the mommy to come back for the third time and get her final defeat. Where does Duane Johnson fit into this? Because he must have to come. The rock? He said he's going to run. Is that what's happening?

I think it's 24 maybe yeah, I vote for the rock I'm run for his third term So wait, let me ask you this mr. Fitness guy. How do you stay? Motivated on a cut and how do you psychologically handle? losing the strength Those minds are the toughest part because I was at Jim last week and my lifts are all down and it's like what's the point? Well, you know, you know, the brain fucks with itself. So the problem you've got when you're training for aesthetics

and not performance is that your progress in the mirror is always going to be subjective, not objective. So if you were training purely for strength, you would know last week I lifted X this week I lifted X plus five Good, whereas you could wake up Two percent leaner than you were a month ago, but being a shit headspace look at yourself in the mirror and go I look fucking shit I really don't like this or I'm not whatever Scales are lying whatever it might be so I think

But is it it also interruptive? Sorry, it's also when you have hunger and you have the calorie depletion, your brain is also going to tell you negative things. It's your non-apositive place like when you're stuffing your face and you have all the carbs and endorphins. But diet brain, so it's when you're on a diet, all you can think about is the next bit of food. Like I just want more, and it's the same thing I was talking to Morgan Housel, you know, Morgan is wrote for

big, big sort of Wall Street advisor and personal finance guy. And we were talking about debt brain. It's like, if you're in debt, like, severely in debt and you don't know where the next meal or the next payment on the credit cards coming from, it's precisely the same as diet brain. So in terms of how you can kind of keep motivation of it's challenging, man, like a diet will turn anyone crazy. I have a friend. I say, I say regimen girls have diets, men have regimens and has the word men in it. Correct. Nice. Nice. Regia M XN. Yeah. There you go.

Yeah, it's challenging. So the best thing that I can say is just to kind of stick to the process. Like if you just continue to stick to whatever the plan is, the TimFront view ensure that you're having a refeed day refeeding, so you're on a calorie deficit and then you're having one day that's high. No, I should start doing that. I think so, as long as you don't have such a high day that it bumps your total weekly calories then over into a surplus.

But let's say that you're on e-tracking calories. I do macros. Yeah, yeah. So do you know what you, do you know your macros are? I can tell you. Sure. Sure. I'll down.

I'll let me open the file. What do you weigh? I am, I dropped it, I'm down to 137. 137. Yeah. Wow. I'm also 5'6". Yeah, yeah. But still 137's, I'm also 5'6.

Yeah, yeah. But still 137, 137 at 5'6 is a light, man. That's why the abs have come in though, right? Oh, yeah. And the cum gutters too. I'm very excited. 176 protein. Yep.

175 carbs and 51 fat. That's good. Yeah. That's good. That's nice. I think that's what's that probably about 2,100 cars, I think, for the day, something like that. I think approximately my friends are there, about just about 2,000, yeah's good. That's nice. I think that's what's that probably about 2,100 cars I think for the day something like that I think approximately about just about 2000. Yeah, go eat so I think if you're doing 2000 2000 and then if you had one low day and then one day where you maybe did two five and

Allowed yourself to eat a little bit more and chose okay chose that on a day when you you know that you're going to really left And then you're actually going to go in you're gonna feel a going to go in, you're going to feel a little bit more full, and you're going to feel a little bit more energized to go into the gym and stuff like that. So it's quite... And then it's also easier psychologically, because you have to tell yourself, I just got to hang until Saturday. Yeah, exactly.

And then I have more reward. Okay, that's very helpful. Another thing as well to consider is, anyone that's listening that's ever been on a diet will, if you've gone on a regimen. Well, it's regimen. I had Andrew Dillon, creator of Tateini McGrath. I just went in LA. How amazing.

He's gay. And I said to him, I go, Andrew, we have to take the faggis photo ever. So if you go to my Instagram, there's a picture of us feeding each other, pink ice cream. There's also another picture of me wiping it off his Instagram, there's a picture of us feeding each other pink ice cream. There's also another picture of me wiping it off his cheek because he's a girl, right? You know what I mean? And it's really, really, he's hilarious. I adore him. Dude, so he was starting my living room there. He was playing at the Edinburgh Fringe, and he was going to London to be on Sky News and then getting the train up and the train goes

past my house essentially. Stopped off, came in, had a coffee, fucked off up there. My hours in, I couldn't breathe. There was some of the things he comes out with. He saw, I adore him, yeah. Have you seen that him and Douglas Murray are both touring the UK? No, that's awesome. As a pair. That's amazing. Douglas was supposed to be on my show,

but he couldn't get like the license or to get to the States or something. These are the outlawed from the States. Oh, but speaking of the States, I just saw something else I got spite funded. You're not going to be able to make this out. This is, it's not going to focus. This is the first penny ever made from 1787,

designed by Ben Franklin. And on it, it it says mind your business. If you look to say, what? What? Why? Why? GIO. It's the first penny, yeah. How much was that?

It was only $200. For the first penny in America? Yeah, that's not that much. It goes for much more. Yeah, I know, that's what I mean. Yeah, 200. For penny from 1787. I just thought it would have been like, I thought if, I don't know, like some, that literally the first one, I know, that's what I mean. Yeah, 200, 10 from 1787. I just thought it would be like, I don't know, like some...

That's not literally the first one, I mean, there was a situation. Yeah, yeah, I get it, but there's not going to be many of them floating around, right? Correct. And especially not in good condition where a lot of them, the slogans weren't off. I'm like, no, no, I have to see mind your business. Is that great? You should get, I should wear it around your neck or something like that. Oh, I wouldn't, if I, that's not a bad idea.

Melt it down and turn it into like something else. I was gonna frame it and have it right when you walk into my house like a nice little frame. I'd burden the bathroom or some, I don't know, I love it. I got to find a frame for it. That's awesome. Okay, so we roll in the clock forward, we're getting to the later in this year, then what happens?

What happens? Okay, two scenarios. First one is Trump versus Biden. First one is Trump versus Biden. Second one is Trump versus Bernie. What happens when they actually stand off against each other? I don't think that the Democratic Party will allow Bernie to be the nominee. How did they sabotage that?

I don't know how they would do it, whether they would change the rules at the last minute. There's a lot of corporate power in the Democratic party. And I'm sure with the Labor Party too, they pretend it's all for the people. Corporate power is powerful, you know, every country in all parties, right? They will, these corporate Bernie's no joke when it comes to a democratic socialism and, you know, contempt for corporations and corporate power in America. He means that he's been saying this for decades. I don't know what they will do, but they will do whatever it takes. Because as we're seeing here, you're not, you guys aren't privy to it, the media

has now started jumping against him in collusion with the Democratic Party. So what the press did against Trump in 2015, 16, they're going to do against Bernie. They're going to start dropping things. I I'm absolutely certain they will never let him be the nominee. Let's but let's pretend that he does somehow Let's pretend if it's Trump versus Biden it is going to be The it's not often we get to see an old man beaten and laugh like beaten till his teeth fall out it's going to be a horrorful to watch he's not well i think he's a decent guy i think he cares about people i think he is a little bit senile he forgot obama's name he's forgetting how to talk often

he just recently said l l beach lgbtobO-B-G-O-I-N. Like he said this, this is not a function of, you know, it's, it's, but it's kind of sad, because the guys suffer through a lot, he's had family tragedies, I wish him not, I make fun of the sun, but I don't think he's a bad person. And even this, all of this, even if the corruption were all true,

it's hardly bad by political standards. Everyone does this kind of stuff. So I do feel bad for him, number one. So I think Trump would wipe the floor with him. With Sanders, if you had two anti-establishment figures, which I don't think there's historic precedent for in the States, at least not for a good 80 years, I don't know what it would look like. I mean, I think the big loser there would be media and social media would really seize power because both of these figures, Trump and Sanders are very, very social media driven

and anti-establishment in every kind of sense. Hillary, this lovely woman who Sanders endorsed a campaign for, just recently said, no one likes Bernie and he's never gotten anything done, very gratuitously. Well, that gives him an opportunity because that means he's not beholden to you guys. And he is in a position to be like, we try it your way. Hillary lost to the worst person in history and elections she should have won. We have this jackass. Now we're trying it my way.

And that's a very compelling message, I feel. Mmm. So you think that if there's no roadblocks put in place that you could actually see Bernie getting through? It's conceivable. Yeah. But I think this would be kind of the... I can't think of another election America's had that would have been this kind of messy other than,

like William Jennings Bryan and McKinley in like 1896. Like it would be, oh no, no, 68. 68, you had three parties yet. Richard Nixon, you had George Wallace, the Southern racist figure, and then you had Hubert Humphrey from the Democrats, and they were riding at the Democratic Convention, and it was basically close to a tie in the popular vote between Nixon and Humphrey, and Nixon was reviled by the Democrats understandably. It was a very, very, very dark election. This would be, I think, somewhat similar. It's like two south ends of a magnet, right? If you get that and it's just everything, it would be really, really horrific in a good way. I love the carnage. If you were an Avenger, do you think you'd be Loki?

Well, Loki's on the Avenger. He's an enemy. I'm a DC Comics person. OK. But I am very much a trickster figure. So yes, Loki, the Norse god, not Loki, the comic character. Got you. Got you.

OK. Who's your favorite DC guy, or girl? I'm a big. No one's I'm a hipster so no one's gonna have heard of this but I was a huge fan of the Legion of superheroes. I have every issue ever. They took place in the 30th century and there was a character there called um, Tripliket Girl. So you have Superboy, you have Supergirl, you have Saturn girl who's tall path, the Cosmic Boy magnet is lightning lad and Triple Good Girl can just split into three people and it's like, okay, this guy can juggle the sun and it's like, okay, there's three chicks here

And it's just like why why are you here? Like so this triple it's okay So I love that and one of them then one of her bodies was destroyed So she just became duo damsel so it's like, okay, we have people here, we've been like, changed like heat and electricity and light, and then there's like twins. Okay. Twins who sometimes become similes twins. Yeah, it's like, all right, I guess you can fight this like, which you can destroy the universe. Have you ever seen that family guy episode where they all get infected with the universe. If you ever seen that family guy episode where they all get infected with nuclear waste and Meg's power is that she can grow her fingernails really fast.

Yeah, yeah, of course. That was before they canceled the show and brought it back. Yeah. Yeah, and they had the Dallas ending. Yes, yes, they did. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Fuck man.

Look, Michael, I've taken up an overview day, man. Twitter's calling you. People want to come in, people want to come and fight fun to give you some money online Where do they go? What do they do? Uh, Michael Mellis.com slash contribute But I'm on Twitter and if you're ever in the States come and be on my show man, Brooklyn, right? Yes, but we've caught him in Manhattan I have every single day. There is another reason for me to come out

Every single day, there is another reason for me to come out. Every single day. I would love to show you Brooklyn and here's why, because we don't have like reality hunks, like with accents here. Do not parade me around the streets, Michael. But I absolutely want to see what this would be like and what the reaction is. And I bet you there'd be some low key hostility. I'm ready for it. I'm ready for you, protect me. Yeah, I'm keeping it. Will you protect me?

No, but I'll, you can protect yourself. You, you, you, you, you know, go to the gym. You can handle it. Fantastic. Well, that'll do. Thanks, man. You know what to do. Like, share, and subscribe. If you've got any comments or feedback, leave it in the comments below.

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