Modern Wisdom - #158 - Catch Up 104

Episode Date: April 9, 2020

Jonny & Yusef from PropaneFitness.com join me for a highly requested Catch Up episode. No agenda, no specific topics, just us 3 discussing life. Expect to learn... How is Yusef handling being a Junior Doctor on the front lines right now? What does Jonny think of Tiger King? What is the Pikey Lifting Club? How much sex are Yusef's neighbours having? And much more. Extra Stuff: Become An Online Coach - www.propanefitness.com/modernwisdom PropaneFitness At Home Workout Guide - https://bit.ly/PropaneAtHome Take a break from alcohol and upgrade your life - https://6monthssober.com/podcast Check out everything I recommend from books to products - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oh, hello friends, welcome back to Modern Wisdom. My guests today are none other than Johnny and you say from propanefitness.com. Woo! We did a catch-up episode. We haven't done one of these in nearly a full year. And I just thought, given the fact, you see it's on the front lines, battling coronavirus,

me and Johnny are working from home and everyone's worlds upside down and Tiger Kings are Netflix like why wouldn't we do a catch-up episode. So here it is, we just shoot the shit, got nothing to talk about, literally no agenda at all. I know that this is some of your favorite kinds of episodes where us three just sit down and chat about our lives and what's going on in current events and stuff. So yeah, expect to find out how Johnny's life has not changed at all given that he already works from home. Same for me.

And find out how you since life has been completely turned upside down by one of the most intense periods at work that he's ever had. Some really nice messages in here talking about how healthcare workers are dealing and struggling with this particular situation. I mean, I'm going to give our best recommendations for Netflix documentaries and podcasts and books that we're consuming at the moment. So hopefully you'll have some great ideas for content that you can go through yourself as well. That's pretty much it. Some other things I've got one of the best lineups of guests ever coming that I've had on Mon and wisdom. Obviously, I've got fuck all else to do with my time, so I might as well record a bunch of podcasts. But Ben Greenfield

early this week, unbelievable. Like what a ridiculously good episode, Richard Shotton is coming back on for one of my favorite topics that we do, which is behavioural economics, marketing, advertising strategies, unbelievable episode with him, Sam Spinelli from the strength therapist is coming on. Michael Belevin's part of the team that coached the actors in the 300 film Henry Cavill, Jason Mahmoha, it's just huge. Then every author that's on Bloomsbury, every author that's on Penguin Random House and Bonnier Books, all of them are in my inbox in one form or another.

So the next couple of months are going to be ridiculous. Also considering speaking to video guideine about maybe doing three episodes a week for a couple of weeks. So stay tight for that. Do not hold me to it because it's quite a lot of work as it is. But if we can make it happen for you, I appreciate that everyone needs a little bit of extra content and just, you know, connection and something to sink the teeth into and distract them from the world

outside. So if I can do it, if we can make it happen, I will. But for now, please welcome the wise and wonderful Johnny and Yusuf. Oh yeah, PS, if you enjoy Modern Wisdom and want to help support it and cheer my day up, all that I would ask of you is you share it with a friend. Just copy the link, send the episode to a friend, nothing would make me happier. Ladies and gentlemen welcome back. It's podcast time, podcast time, Johnny, and you've saved podcast time. Welcome back gentlemen, very good to see you. Good morning. Good morning. The Skype can everybody see everybody at once. Yeah, at once. So if when you're speaking, if I go, I can see if I can see you making embarrassing reactions to what I say. Yeah. So for anyone that's listening,

like the reason Johnny's asked us that's because the previous episode, we were using a different bit of software, where if someone was talking, the other person could be like, and it was fine, because you couldn't see them. Whereas now, we're all on view. Or use of use of in Johnny, a positive effect that they can't be snide behind my back while we're doing on view. All right. You said, use of Injury about the device fact that they can't be snide behind my back while we're doing the podcast or make funny faces.

Come on. So lame. So what date is it? Saturday, April 4th, we're recording this. I think this will go out in just a couple of days. So yeah, we just saw we do a catch-up episode. Obviously, we, I mean, this is the first time I've got to see either of you two since the last one, since catch up, which is kind of funny, like since isolation hacks, we haven't seen each

other. And now we get to see each other again. It's like, ah, podcast. Yeah. Yeah. It's also odd that all of our lifestyles have barely changed. Like, I mean, Chris gets to the club less, but me and Johnny, our life is exactly the same. Chris does cross fit just somewhere else. Do you mean the Sunday's? Sunday's at the botnist and Wednesday nights at the dog and parrot, that's what you mean, isn't it? Blank.

It's when you do Riverside at Blank. That's the relationship. Yeah, that's it. Voodoo Mondays Riverside at Blanc. That's the right question. Yeah, that is. Voodoo Mondays Riverside at Blanc, yeah, that's it. For those who don't know what we're on about, I've been friends with Yusuf and nearly 10 years now. And in that entire time, he's never once got my portfolio of events, correct? Like he just keeps on.

So it's a Wednesday. So you must be at work tonight, right? I'm like, I use to have never run a Wednesday in my entire career. You know, the drinks event that you run at the social club in Leeds are parties. The parties that you do. Yeah, it starts at 8am, isn't it? 8am for 8.30? You get formal dress. So yeah, that's, yeah, so less time at that. But you are right. Like, I mean, what's changed in your life, blob? You're like, because you just moved out, I wanted to bring this up actually. First thing I want to bring up,

how anti-fragile is having a dog and a garden during lockdown? Yeah, it's pretty good. I mean, I still go for walks. So, like, so what's changed, I suppose, the main change and probably the, yeah, the main changes, I would normally work somewhere else, like a few days in the

week in the morning. So I'd go to a coffee shop or something like that. I remember the last visit I had to a coffee shop, actually. Where was it? Did you choose? It was in cost, cost or in town. It was average, to be honest, but really good Wi-Fi. I feel like I could write a 50-page guide on how to select your coffee shop. But anyway, you walk in and everyone's like, it was talk of lockdown, talk of quarantine, signs everywhere saying, we will not accept cash. And I nearly said to the person taking my order, like, why is that not just always the case? Like, maybe, maybe, maybe,

for a great situation, wouldn't be quite as bad if people didn't like hand each other bits of paper. Like, you go to the till, you hand them the, and then they're like, if you roll up with cocaine and sweat. And,

because, well, and then then you're a receipt, which just bumps your e-sugin up. You fit to that. So, risk is like viral, you catch a virus or East region. Yeah, you get some kind of like long-term hormonal problem

Okay, so tell me what I'm promoting The Oat Proats what they called Oteens When a guy like run up to me to give me no team bar. In cost. So you're me. It's through the door. Tell me what has changed then, apart from coffee shop visits, blob.

So just I suppose I would, evening, beckonite would sometimes have plans. Like obviously we would be doing these on a sofa in your house. Like this would be happening on an evening for like three hours, loads of bright lights. But that doesn't happen anymore. But like not much really in that, I feel like a bit of a twat saying that because everyone's like, oh, it's worked for you, mate. But like, I suppose, I feel like, so two really interesting things. One is, I'm normally pretty bad for like worrying

about my health. Like if I think I've got something wrong with me, like it consumes my thoughts for weeks. And I always assume the worst sort of like, I have something tiny wrong with me, I assume it's horrendous. But at the moment, like, I'm not that worried about this, but a lot of people I know are a lot more worried than they ever have been.

And a lot of people are really struggling with being in the house and the isolation side of it. But I think the way it feels is I've been dealing with those worries for years. So now I was just like, well, everyone else is going to be. Yeah. I think I've just had practice in Both of the concern both of the struggle points Which is like worrying about your health and being at home on your own dealing with work just by yourself in front of a laptop

So the the that's really normal for the guilt or whatever it is that you're referring to there of feeling a bit like a Twatt is something I've been dealing with as well It's I don't know whether it's like a survivor, a survivor, guilt or whatever it might be, but the fact that it doesn't feel painful to me to live the life that I've always lived, or have done for the last few years, very little for me has changed. Did a poll on my Instagram ask people for questions, and there's definitely some people out there that are struggling a lot more. I mean, there's some people who message saying that they live on their own.

This one girl said, me and my partner are going through a really difficult time at the moment and we're self isolating in different houses. So I'd like to imagine trying to negotiate a relationship, like a bad relationship when you're both locked down. Another person said, I'm really extroverted. I get super depressed when I'm on my own. And there's me loving life. No longer having my sleep routine messed up. Don't get me wrong, I miss all my mates, I miss getting to see you guys, I miss going to work, I miss actually being at work and seeing the nightclubs and getting that buzz and stuff. But this part of me, the novelty of doing more of stuff that I like to do is cool. And it'll wear off. But there's a guilt. There's like a, I don't know, I just

feel like I shouldn't be this, it should be harder. I should be suffering more for being at home. And then there's the complete opposite end of the scale, which is Dr. Scone. This is a really interesting point that not only the three of us are experiencing, but it's totally universal. And that is the lifestyle choices that you've made have consequences. Like, it's obvious as that sounds like you pay you money, you take your choice, and whatever way that you've set up your life, it has advantages

in some circumstances and disadvantages in others. So I think there's a dog pooing outside and it's not fine. Fine. It's not so hard. But ask the choice that I've made by living here in front of a window where I can spot people pulling outside my house. So this is my point that you guys have, you've set up your life in such a way that during normal, non-pandemic times, you have insecurity of income. You have lower scope for social life than others because of the hours that you do or the people that you live with, you know, that's a choice that you've made and you have to be with them through thick and thin.

And so what the advantage might be in one circumstance could be a disadvantage in the other and vice versa. So your friend who's extroverted and needs human company, the way they've served their life normally means they they reap the advantages of that. But then when they're in lockdown, it's a bad thing, vice versa for us like equally the job of a junior doctor can be a bit rubbish at times. But what I have got is the job security during a pandemic that someone who works in graphic design doesn't have. And so I don't see any of these things as an advantage or disadvantage, they're just the consequence of the decision that we've all made. And so I don't think you should feel guilty about it because there will certainly be a time where you experience the blunt end of it as well.

Yeah, for sure. There was part of me at the very beginning. I wonder whether you felt this as well, Johnny. I was taking far too much pleasure in other people's struggling to generate their own meaning and their own motivation. So I was seeing a lot of people saying, ah, it's really hard working from home and I'm really not got a routine and I just keep eating because I'm constantly in the house and oh, isn't it difficult when you're in your bedroom working as opposed to in you?

And I was like, yeah, you motherfucker, how do you think it's been for me for the last 10 years? Like welcome to my world, bitches. That's just feeling vindicated, just like. Yeah, but I should have like, you know, like it's taken, it took a week for me to work through that and for me to fully let go and be like, don't cathartically take pleasure in the fact that other people have entered your nightmare.

Yeah, something I keep seeing people like entrepreneurs that follow posting is the idea that, like, you fall, you always fall to the level of your training. And I think the thing that I have definitely witnessed a few, sort of like people in my social circle kind of spin out of control a little bit with this happening. And I think if you're, but there's also people who've just continued as normal. So I do think it's, as Yusuf said, like the choices you make of sort of building a, building routines in your life, building habits in your life and trying to hold onto those. If the rest of your life kind of falls out, falls away around you, you can, you've still got those, those aspects of consistency in your day.

I know it's a lot for people because for a lot of, a lot of people training and exercise and that is, is normally a, a fairly consistent, healthy habit they do. But there's still loads of other things that you can, as we discussed last time, continue you're saying what you do in the morning, continue what you do in the evening, try and keep that structure. And then the frustration that comes with it and feeling like you're just sort of slipping into this petrid mess, progressively over, progressively over the weeks, like that that's not as bad. So this is the like one month crisis is the

other months opportunity, like the three things that you've mentioned there, like you've got you normally operate in a routine. Someone would do it in normal times, some people would be like, oh, I made that so restrictive, like you can't do the things it's like, well, yes, but that's a double edge sword, because now when there is nothing else to do you have the momentum of the routine and you know your productivity hasn't changed you've got a dog which most of the time can be a ballake but during a pandemic demand for dogs has gone up so much like all the dog adoption

centers have completely messed up. Is this stretched? Is this right against that? Yeah, like people are just desperately looking for, you know, the the home gym, like yes, that's a ballake to set up and it's expensive to get in it and it's cold and but now like you're the winner with a home gym because you just described Jonathan Watson. Like he's training is just unaffected. Like the other day you were like, Oh, you said, just did a heavy Burkhan style deadlift session the other day. It's like, how many people can say that now? Yeah. That is the thing is, even even when you do the math,

like, I don't think a home gym makes financial sense. Like, when you add it up, like what it costs to sort of get what you need to train normally, you wouldn't, I think it takes like 10 years to recoup it. But you have the, you have the ability to sort of get what you need to train normally. You wouldn't, I think it takes like 10 years to recoup it, but you have the ability to sort of control this little environment that you can manage. No one's ever using your barbell. Like no one's ever like wants to squat rack. You're being like, barbell over the...

There's always the alternative. It's way everywhere. What every fit pro on Instagram is doing, which is jump squats and their mum's conservatory and doing presses with the kind of beans or like... Have you got a banana? Have you got a banana in your head? Well, it's my weight.

It's the... Have you seen the guy that... The guy that was like, all these people doing glute thrusts in their living room. That's like saying, I'll get big biceps by doing that. You just like... The first I love watching most is... Go and watch Eric Helms training on Instagram, because he's just doing it in a car park.

So he's got like a basic barbell. He's got like a barbell and some other basic kit. And he's just gone to like... It must be the park, the car the car park of his flat or something. What is your name? What is your name? He's American, he lives in New Zealand. So at least I think so.

Okay. But he's, I'm not sure if you can put together some pretty, like sessions that I think I'd enjoy doing. But it's just the location. I just, I love that he's like, no, I'm still going to have an area where I train. And it just so happens that that area is gonna be a public car park.

Man, but he's like away from everything and it's brilliant. So funny watch. I've, I want to start a movement which is hashtag Pikelifting Club. And it includes all of the people at the moment. Like me, so I had my doormats down on my decking the other day to protect them from the dumbbells that I was putting down.

And Alfie Armstrong and Sunni Webster, I know at the moment, are both using wheelie bins as squat racks. So they're squat racks. So Sunni's got lifting blocks so that he can do like jerks from blocks. But it's just two wheelie bins. Apparently the wheelie bins weedy bins. I wouldn't trust really been being that strong. Alfie's got a hundred kilos on two weedy bins and they look pretty they look pretty legit. Just on the lid on the lid yeah yeah it's distributed though isn't it. 50 kilos on each one that's

all right. It's pretty good. It would be a good way to do it. If you were able to shave the handle off, get like snap the handle off it, turn it upside down so that you've got the base. I bet the base is strong as fuck. You got that. Anyway, Pikey lifting club, if you've got any, if you are doing some Pikey lifting, I want to find out about it. So give me a message and let me know what you can do. So Seth, like you are as front line, you're the Vanguard against this current situation. Tell us what it's like, man. Literally, the front line, it's quite nice to see the applause the other day out in the streets.

That was quite sweet, quite heartwarming. Do you feel as a health worker, do you feel that? There's two parts to it. So the applause, that was nice. It was nice to hear that the public appreciated it. Ironically, I only realized what it was about in retrospect because I was between night shifts and I was just like, I'm not being walking up by all these fuckers clapping outside. Yeah, like you're actually too busy to, most to like be able to take notice of it. But on the other hand, it's really nice to see that

people actually do have some level of compassion, at least where we are. I'm sure there's like, Dicks in London, though, whatever, that are just still ignoring the whole isolation thing. It's always in London, isn't it? But it's nice that everyone's actually been like, yes, this is an illness that probably won't kill me, but for the sake of grandma, for the sake of the NHS, the older populations, all of this, we're going to pile together and actually

do something proper about this. And so seeing people observe a isolation quite strictly is quite nice, quite heartwarming to see, and it's not something I'd expected. And it seems like the UK, we did flatten the curve enough for us not to have this absolute mad spike that the likes of Italy are seeing. We're not having to just put people on ventilators in the car park and that kind of thing. So, from that perspective, it's lovely. The other perspective, a lot of companies, we get like 5% off pizza express or whatever and you like, I prefer a pay rise rather than just like, or 10% off

subway, the cost in the hospital started offering free coffees for staff. Do you know how long it lasted for 24 hours? Oh my God. Why? Because they got pounded. I guess so. Or just they were like, because that, but whereas my perspective is like cost to, if they know they're going under, they should just be like, let's just go out with the bang,

let's go out doing something, like we're making a massive loss anyway, let's just give NHS staff a free drink and then it, at least looks good for PR on the way out. I want to just sort of interject there. I think, I know that it must suck right now and if there's NHS staff listening, I apologize for how poorly you're being treated and paid at the moment, but thank you for your service. That's the annoying part because like we're being the hours and the nights and everything, they're only going to increase. We're putting ourselves at a very high risk

of additional viral load plus the combination of being run down between nights, like sleep cycle being. Perfect storm for you to become infected. And then if you become infected, that further strains the other healthcare workers that are beside, man, it is literally like someone created in a virtual world, how would you make the healthcare service as vulnerable and as on an eye-fed just possible. But when we reintegrate, which inevitably it's going to happen at some point, fucking

better do, I know for a fact, man, that NHS workers are going to get. So I strongly predict, free gym memberships for NHS workers, we'll be doing probably free entry into all of our club nights with an NHS thing for the next year, something like that. I imagine that a lot of businesses will try to repay NHS workers when they can. It's not our job to say what the NHS should pay you. All of probably would be nice to be more. We can't control that, but it's a small business owner. I imagine that if you've got a cafe 19 or one in Jesmond or something like that and you've got an NHS thing, it wouldn't surprise me if they say you've got 50%

of your food or you get free coffee or something. No, no, we're lovely. I think for the last few weeks, all the globe, all the healthcare staff across the world have been crying for is like, can we just have a mask that fits properly? Like, can we just have the actual equipment that... I don't want a garlic bread. I want the proper kit, please. Yeah, I want to not be wearing a sock over my face.

Just before we go further down this, I just want to say something I saw on Instagram that I thought was fantastic, which was a very Jordy man saying like, yeah, the deer, I took me a bin out, right? I got a fucking round of applause. You're not? LAUGHTER

I think the thing that, like, the silver line of all this stuff is there's a few people, a few very dry, very sarcastic people on social media who just spot these opportunities. Yeah. The, you've seen the one of the guy who was like, I was out in Tesco today and there wasn't much food available on the shelves and I went to this couple and there trolley was absolutely full of stuff and I said excuse me would you mind awfully sparing a couple of items for and it was great and they gave me some hummus and he's holding a gun. And some tomatoes and some lemon juice absolutely lovely.

The other thing I feel so smug about is having the bun gun, the shot duffer, bless you. Man, you've got scalable toilet paper. Oh my god, it's incredible. You ever heard, I think, just can you describe briefly, it's incredible. So you have a, I think just can you describe, briefly, briefly describe what it is you've got in your bathroom for people that didn't listen to that life hack's episodes. War-mounted high pressure hose that you can spray at your bum, not in your bum, at your bum, to reduce the requirement for toilet roll. High pressure hose makes it sound more rudimentary than it is. It's actually, it's a real nice chrome with the pressure, what's happened, Johnny,

if you had a, you have something to throw. No, no, I've just remembered something that's related to that, about Wim Hof. In the boat of Wim Hof? Yes, so have you seen a boat of Wim Hof's belly button? No. No. Right.

So I'm doing his 10 week course at the moment. Oh, right. Which involved the S&DALT. You know how I fixed my scoliosis? 72 hours of yoga per day. 72 hours of holotrophic breathing per day. That would be, you know, true. You said did that, you held a German ladies hand. For 30 hours. What, I mean, what a listening experience this must be. What, this was this word salad. Well, no, but if people, all of this has been, all of this is referenced in previous episodes. And if you don't know what,

if you don't know why you said hell to German ladies hand, if you don't know why Johnny had an out of body experience, if you don't know who Wim Hof is, just go back, go back, listen to the wholeogue and you'll know what we're on about. Anyway, so I was watching this video, I was like, he's got a really weird belly button. I'm going to find out why. So I googled why does Wim Hof have a weird belly button? And someone's written a really long answer. I don't know whether this is true, but the guy claimed to be involved in writing his book, but he didn't go too much into this story

because when you hear why it's like, oh my god, that's mental. So apparently what happened was there's a fountain, right, where Wim often swims in and he gives himself an animal on the fountain. And he was going to go do it again, but the time that he did it again, they turned the pressure up on the jet. time that he did it again, they turned the pressure up on the jet. And so it like cut through his whatever bits and you needed like major surgery and stuff. So you said as a health professional, can you debunk or confirm whether or not Wim Hof has an outy now because he filled his abdomen up with more than a little willy. Something's going on here. No, it's just a little willy. It just doesn't look normal, doesn't it? Normal. But apparently, it's

because I mean, take that with a pen just like, I don't know whether that's true or not. It's just what I read from one person. But if someone's made that up like, almost fair enough, fair enough for everything to come up. It might just be a, like, per surgical hernia that he's, that he's developed from, from the set, rather than like the animal blood. I don't think it's that important. I know, I don't think the water blew out his belly button. Okay. It is from the surgery, but the water is still in the air.

I feel like I should sit up and get shot. That's what happened. Yeah, exactly. That's it. That's it. We've talked, and talked about personal protective equipment. Have you seen that Rogue have started producing those clear face masks? So that's another fantastic thing that I'm seeing with people pulling together that Rogue

Rolls Royce General Motors have stopped making shoes. We've also stopped making shoes to make face masks. People will still be buying shoes because everyone will suddenly, like, sorry, another tangent, but something I find hilarious is it seems you tell people not to do something? Like, how many people do you see jogging now that you've never seen jogging before? That, well, forbidden fruit. They should say that counting macros increases the risk of catching COVID-19.

Do you not be catching macros doing a progressively overloaded training program three, four days a week has been found to increase the risk. So, and not allowed. Wait, no, what you need is Boris to come out and say that you're not allowed to do it. Okay, so today, I really need to warn you against our progressive overload sets of between six and 10 reps should absolutely not. And if your friends ask you to go and do reps

between six and 10, you should say, FACOF. Have you seen the picture of Boris jogging? No. Oh, god. There's you seen the picture of Boris jogging? No, no. Oh, god. There's a picture of him like out jogging, like trying to set the example for, and he's, it looks like a man has like taken the idea

of jogging and thought, I'm gonna implement this in front of the camera. He's wearing like a fleece and like khaki shorts. And, that's what I'm saying. Just like Boris Seen doing his daily exercise of the day and you're like, Jesus Christ. You know when you wake up in the morning and there's a moment where like you forget what

you've got to do today or like you forget what you were wearing about yesterday and for that like breed window and you're like, oh fuck yeah, I've got that one. That just must be every day for him now. It's every second. Listen, I'm going to be a dynamic that just must be every day for him now. It's every second. Listen, I'm going to go there. I'm going to go there. I'm Prime Minister, Prime Minister, I believe it.

Yeah, well, what about the huge decisions? Him and Rishi, Rishi's both also infected now as well, right? I don't know. I think so, I think that's why he's not being doing the briefings, but him and Boris, it's like, imagine the fact that not only if you got to try and run the country, but you've now got to try and do it from the fucking, from your house.

Remotely. Yeah. Remote five minutes to ring. Yeah. There was, there was a few people kicking off on Twitter when they were like, how come Boris gets a test for coronavirus? And I don't get one. You're like, Karen.

I saw, I saw one, I saw one that accused Sharon. And it was like, um, why did Boris get a test and I didn't and someone had put it in a tweet and said, because he runs the country Sharon and you ask for the doctors for number on Facebook. That was it. Yeah. Sorry, Karen. It was Sharon. Um, there's a Karen or a Sharon listening. We don't mean you, we mean your mum. There was the picture of the, I can't remember who she's some kind of public figure, and she's got a, I want to speak to the manager haircut. When she tweeted, Americans need to know when this is going to end for all small businesses and someone responded being

like, so what you're saying is you want to speak to the manager of Coverone virus. Yeah, so good, man. So one man has been commenting on every single ad we are running at the moment, like he's methodically running his way through every variation, which is quite a task, that is taken quite a while, and everything just does your does your free thing that you're giving away taken to account covid 19 and the effect on the economy is like well. I know not really made but like what's your alternative. How would you want to use anything or do anything. How do you propose that you're supposed to change it anyway like Like, what would you do that would be different? Some of the questions we get, and we're just like, sorry guys, it's also our first pandemic.

So... LAUGHTER Wait, wait, wait, you do this too. We're just trying our best as well. I'm just leaving alone. Trying to deem me, trying to deem me job. And I want to briefly segue here. PT's any fitness parole that's listening, obviously now is

the perfect time for you to actually learn how to run a business online. PropaneBusiness.com. No, God Chris, no, no, no, no, no, no, which one is it? ProPaintFitness.com forward slash modern wisdom. That's it. ProPaintFitness.com forward slash modern wisdom and you will get a free. Is it still the seven step thing? The seven step PDF or have you changed it?

It's, yes, so it's just the like the exact seven steps you would need to start a really like highly systematized function online business. So like, no, no, no, no, no, no,. We've had some really good feedback from modern wisdom listeners about it. It's amazing man. I am, I got a bunch of messages about how to become an online coach thing again. If you haven't heard that, that's unbelievable. In fact, just go and listen to that.

Go and listen to that. And if you don't like the sound of being an online coach, don't do it. But it is brilliant. Everyone came out watching that like this. You should have put a banana up to his face. Big smile on the face. That's super, isn't he? Big smile.

There is this weird, I got asked yesterday by, I think someone who found us in modern wisdom actually, but he was saying, surely, it's never going to work because everyone's trying to be an online coach and like, everyone's using a live video, everyone's doing their story. Just so you know. Alright, man, I'm not being funny, right?

I'm not, I'm not being, honestly, I'm not being funny, but how the fuck is all going to work? Oh my God, sorry, I need to, I need to interject here. Have you seen, have you looked at the complete torpedoing of his life that Billy Joe Saunders, the boxer has managed to do in the last seven days? Right. So you might not know who Billy Joe Saunders is. British boxer. I don't know. Okay. British boxer. Billy Joe Saunders boxer. So he was lined up to have a huge fight, absolutely massive fight, which has been rearranged. In the time of the last couple of days, he rang an airport that his friend was flying

out of to tell them that his friend had coronavirus while he was on the plane. So his friend then got pulled off and detained with his other buddy. Just to grasp his mate. Just because he thought he'd be funny because he's bored. And so that's that's the first one. That's the first one, right? Remembering this guy's a fucking professional athlete. That's a slight. No, no, no, no, no, so it's on the runway. So he rings him and he's okay. He faced time. He faced timed his friend while his friend was sat in the passenger seat, knowing that this was going to happen and heard the beboon can Derek knows please come to the and it's like and

so that happened. And then then first off, you've done that right, like awful time to do and that got that was in the press. And then he's boxing in his garage with a punching bag and he's saying to the punching bag so guys you might be at home and your old lady might be giving you a bit of stick and you might be getting a little bit sort of annoyed by it so you know what you want to do yeah she's coming towards you she's she's riled up yeah she's she's angry what you want to do you want to pop and he throws a punch at the bag and he goes so she's stunned right she's going what the fuck's going on oh my god and then what you want to do you want to just turn and pop and

you finish her off and then you've got the rest of the afternoon in peace this video is a video and it got leaked, and now he's banned from boxing for life. That's like somebody, you know, like the, so, what the equivalent of a fraper's, but in someone's body, it's like if someone worked for 24 hours in that man's body to be like, right, how can I just,

what could I do? Yeah. Did he post that video on his social media? I've seen the video. I don't know, it's in a WhatsApp group. It's long, it's like a minute and a half long, so I'm gonna guess maybe just in a WhatsApp group, but it's got leaked and now professional boxing license

revoked everything else. Like that's a proper one, two punch combination of how to annihilate your own life, isn't it? Like those two punches ended his career. Yeah. What, how can you recover from that? Wait, can't, is that all right? I'm sorry. I'm done.

Well, it's brand as well. Even if you try and launch like a box tutorial online. Self-developed, self-defense for women. That would be a brilliant way to pivot now. Fuck me. Just a total segue. Someone who's really pivoted their brand really well. I'm really impressed, but I'd highly recommend everyone

go and watch a couple of his videos as Eddie Hall's YouTube channel. It's fantastic. Man, he's nailed it. Fantastic. I just love how he doesn't take himself, like the one with him and Ross Edgily, if you see that where they go swimming in the lake.

I just love how Eddie just walks out like in Budgie Smugglers. He's a huge bloke, quite lean now, but just throws himself in anything. He's younger than us as well. He's our age. He's in between all of our ages. Yeah, he's, I think, 31 maybe.

And despite when he was at the peak of Strongman, he looked like 50. Yeah, but yeah, you're totally right, man. There's one with, I think, either Nile or his buddy that he did. The gymnast. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, he did one with Jamie Johal about bodybuilding. Gus does strong man. That was really fun. He's sponsored by Boo Who Matt. He's so trendy. Apart from the way that he looks and the way that he sounds, he's so trendy.

That's really, he's got like a proper intro. He's clearly got someone to help him do it. Yeah. Prop, like he's made a propaganda. Did he seem to, sorry, did he seem to, was it Grace or Isabel? At the European championships. Seriously, have you not seen this? No, no, no, go and watch it. Go and watch it as soon as we're done.

I can't remember whether it's Grace or Isabel. I think it must be, I and watch it. Go and watch it as soon as we're done. I can't remember whether it's Grace or Isabelle. I think it must be... I can't remember. So it's either 30 cleaning jerks or 30 ground to overhead snatches for time at 4.62 kilos for men. And obviously Eddie Hall essentially just does a like an RDL into a good morning into a front raise. Like that's the movement and he just goes, blah, blah, blah.

I'm pretty certain. I'm pretty certain he's got the world record in it. The same way that Wattsus Face broke the hundred meter. Brian Shaw. Yeah, Brian. I'm Marius. Yeah. Pitchin' us.

Brian Shaw on the, do you mean Brian Shaw on the rower? Yeah. Zoe means. Yeah. What was Marius? I think Marius got a new winner.? Yeah. So he means. Yeah. What was Murray? I think Murray's got a new winner. He was a Polish strongman. I think he got a really good time in another strongman

started being like, ah, I can do it. Yeah. What other marials was like the strongman that was just like peeled all of the time. Like there's loads of footage of him doing like a farmer's walk with like full like forearm vascularity, striations in his bicep and everyone's like, what, who's that?

But he used to win loads of events while being bodybuilder condition constantly. What else have you been doing? So one of the most common questions I'm seeing posted online at the moment is any good books, podcasts, Netflix, series, slash movies to watch, or whatever else, what have you guys been consuming?

I guess you, Seth, must be just... Get home safely. I mean, nothing. Normal life here. Yeah, well, just definitely trying to... Medical information. Yeah, so for me, I've not got a very good answer to that. I've seen half of an episode of Tiger King. Brilliant. Which Chris mentioned yesterday said, you said, that's the equivalent for you of watching a back to back Lord of the Rings. Marathon.

Yeah, it is. Watching half an episode, I'm surprised that you got through half an episode. It is brilliant. You haven't seen that yet. Have you, Johnny? So, I got that message from, so, so, Becca and I try to watch it like a week ago,

got like half an hour in and it's a bit weird, might give up on this, kept seeing stuff on Instagram about it, kept saying to her like, there's a lot of stuff about this series, like it is number one in the UK, then you sent me that message and I was like, be like you just watched half of it,

like if you just watched a bit of it. And what did she say? Did she say absolutely. Oh my goodness. Oh, fine. So like last night we like made it through like I think we're on the second episode. And I can get my feet to slowly it.

So the curtains and I'm like, oh, OK, fair enough. Like this. So yeah, you know, I don't want to say you know, I said, you know, on Facebook, you can mark yourself safe from natural disasters. So there's like tsunamis and things and it's like Jonathan Watson has marked himself safe from the Thailand tsunami or whatever. I saw on Facebook the other day, someone who had marked themselves safe from that bitch, Carol Baskin? What was that TV? It was either a single episode or it was a series where like there was like an ended up with like the dad, like giving the bloke a hand job in a car. Oh, fuck. Oh, Zion Festival. No.

No. No. You've done Vibs Are Usives, two Netflix series repository of information that he's got there. Yeah. I'd be so bad on like these game shows where they're like, topic is movies. I'm like, great. I've seen three. Okay, I'll do this.

It's one of them. It's a white club. No, I'm out. It's a different pit. Another one that you mean, Johnny. So, okay, you've not been consuming an awful lot, Seth. What have you been watching or listening to or enjoying, Johnny? So, that's the thing I'm currently just started watching. Ozark is just, in my opinion, the best thing on TV, mainly because I just really like the main character Jason Bateman's character.

He's just, so he isn't a accountant, but it's more like, and you'll see this from the first series, he's plunged into a very stressful situation, like he's being pursued by a Mexican cartel because he's involved in laundering money for them. And they start, like, they find out these been doing some naughty things or whatever. I'm not ruined if people. But he just remains completely calm the entire time. And he's like, his wife's like panicking.

He's just like, it's okay. We'll go here, do this, go there. They probably won't be able to find us. It'll all be fine. And he's just always on his laptop looking at the high level, looking at the spreadsheet, sort of the situation. I love it. Brilliant. So good. So that, yeah, what are you doing? Some BBC. Lier on BBC. What's that? Lier. Yeah. So it's in the second season. Now I think the first it might be on ITV actually. Basically a there's a surgeon who I don't know how to say this about really sorry. You get accused of raping someone. And then the season unfolds, the story unfolds. It's very good.

British actor is pretty strong. British, the guy who played Hornblower. It's like, I only know him. So like I looked him up on IMTV. Yeah, I looked him up on IMTV, but the thing I remember, I just remember seeing an episode and I was like eight of Hornblower on TV. Yeah, the thing I remember, I could just remember seeing an episode and I was like eight of Hornblower on TV. I was like, oh, I said, I'd play. I fell in it. I'd had Hornblower. It's just so you know, just so you know.

He's very not being funny, right? That, not the Lion King, but Tiger King. That, not the Lion King, but Tiger King. Yep. I've got an Apple TV trial. All right. And what's something called the servant by Emnelly Chymalun? So they, they're only a, like a stick, but also a production studio as well. So they've now basically made their own Netflix, yeah.

And as you'd expect from Apple, like pretty much every single one of the like Apple originals has got like Jennifer Araniston in. Well, you know, they've all got a bit like Hollywood app. Big swing. Yeah. Yeah. What does it, it's like, what do you do when you've, when you've got a trillion dollars of cash, he like, well, we'd like to make something that's like as good as Netflix. I reckon she does. I don't know. I think it's probably probably I should go into a bank account. It's shame. If you watch shows up, it's only Apple that could step in and be like, well, we'll have a go at Netflix. Like, we'll just take that out. Yeah, John, John, do you fancy, um, do you fancy starting a couple, that will studios?

Ah, well, yeah, no worries, I will. Um, so, uh, cool stuff. John, I've actually, cool stuff that I've consumed recently. I sent you guys the link to that fat Tony video. Didn't I, the guy that spent a million pounds on drugs. I put it in the big dick's group in On What's Up. Is it someone that you've just, you've been on the podcast as well, yeah?

So it is, Mixmag uploaded a Facebook video. Why? Why would you, anyway? So they uploaded this really well-produced, full documentary, 20 minute documentary, edited archive footage, interviews with him and his mum following him around. It's just this guy who at the age of 16 managed to kind of spawn his way into being a DJ and then became best friends with boy George,

Paris Hilton, like everyone. Every single gave him... Who's that famous British model that loves drugs? Female. I don't know Chris. Get the London look. You will do, like, oh my god. Bradley Pitt. No. Kate Moss.

Right. Kate Moss, 15 year old Kate Moss giving her long island ice teas in a school uniform outside of the club like 30 years ago or some shit. So anyway, it's just this epic story and I messaged him on his Facebook fan page and was like, Hey man, this is cool as fuck. I want to get you on the podcast. Would you, would you do it? And he said, yeah, so that's pretty fun. That'll be good. He was DJing for Harvey Nichols last night live stream. So he's pretty, he's huge time. So he's quite well. That was interesting.

If you want to go watch that, that's cool. Ben Shapiro's podcast right now is a godsend because he does it every day, Monday to Friday, one hour, and it recaps the last 24 hours. Usually it means he's got to really delve into the depths of news to find something that's interesting. So it means he's got to really delve into the depths of news to find something that's interesting. So it's really dispersed, but because there's so much happening every day at the moment, you get to know where the current death rates are, you get to find out

what policies are happening that are going well and what are going badly. So he is producing content now at the cadence that you want someone to produce content. That sounds really useful actually, because trying to find a synthesized version of, like, because the only thing that I've been defaulting to which is Ben's recommendation, if you're listening, Ben, thank you, is Worldometer, which just has global graphs, trend lines, logarithmic scales of things,

new cases, recoveries and deaths, but I still... That's not gonna work there, right, as well. You know, you're driving to work or doing whatever. Ben Shapiro's podcast, man, every morning now, part of my morning routine is listening to that wildlife book. So, yeah, you get an episode in the UK you'll be listening on a Tuesday, up until on a Saturday,

and then you get Sunday Monday off, because he takes the weekend off, but he's brilliant. Like, he's absolutely amazing. The only thing I would say is if you are listening, every time that he goes, we'll come back to that in just one second, immediately say, hey, Siri, skip forward 90 seconds,

because that's the beginning of the day. Is that work with Siri? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's why you need air pods, man. That's cool. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's why you need our pods. That's cool. Um, um,

look at your face. Um, there we go. What are the, what are the stuff that have been consuming that's been cool? I mean, I would really, really been super, super impressed by Ben Shapiro's podcast. Tiger King was awesome. The Vietnam War, documentary by Ken Burns, fucking sick. The UK and US office have both just been put on, I think Netflix, so maybe they've been extra episodes added to my housemates have been watching that.

I really like the US office. I just bet I'm in the UK one, I think, in some respects. Yeah, it's Steve Carrell. Yeah, it's not the character. Like, I just can do no wrong. Like I just really enjoy how he like models his way through and ends up doing quite well. Really funny, good.

I watch something that's like all the official secrets a film with Becca. All right. It's about like the theory that evidence was doctored to start the Iraq war. Shit. Good. So is that here tonight? Is it dramatized? I have seen that. It's British thing, right?

And she goes to that lady's cottage and is like, Oh, will you leak this thing for me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my brother sent me a WhatsApp voice message. It was 30 minutes long. It wasn't him. It was like a forward from something. And it was like, listen, brothers and sisters in faith. This is really important, scientifically, logically and practically because what is happening here is a huge cover-up and you need to know this as people of faith. We need to raise our vibrations because the setting up of 5G is what

is causing the coronavirus. There is no such thing as contagion. There is no such thing as virus when the 5G comes on, it releases toxin out of your cells and it has to come out of your mouth. And nobody has ever proven that a virus can be contagious. We even took the the the sputum, the flam out of someone with flu injected it into someone else and we could not reproduce it. It is 5G, it is causing ourselves to, and it's like,

it is to make the people more obedient. And you just, so like I started playing it in the doctor's office and everyone was just like, keep that on. Just slowly riling everyone up and getting them really, really angry. I've seen quite a bit. I've been sending it to you, sir. Like there's a few guys that we vaguely follow who are coaches,

but have a certain set of beliefs that aren't necessarily very evidence based. And they say, it's really important. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, he's been saying like this is all just, it's 5G and like we saw the same guy say, if you, if you like, get ill, don't go to hospital,

like go into the forest and let nature heal you and all this sort of stuff. Like I think I'm all up for everyone having an opinion and until it's dangerous and then I think it should just be regulation to start. Yeah, I mean that luckily that admit it, I think what's happening is that unnecessary admissions are likely to drop in hospitals because current now the risk of being in hospital is much worse than the risk of being out of hospital. And so if there's something like and I think this is going to be a huge shift for healthcare as a whole in six months time because

now that we've got the infrastructure that has never really been used as its capacity is that there's going to be a shift towards online consultations and away from a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be done in person. And I think this is probably the catalyst for that where they're starting to realize that so many things, so many like inefficiencies that were previously just let to carry on. Now, they're like, oh, actually, we're forced to really keep people out of hospital at any cost. It's going to cause us huge culture or shift, like not only with healthcare, but with attitudes towards, you know, obviously, the, even just socially

people are going to come out and realize what they've, what they've been missing, the social interactions that they've been having. And the companies that have invested in IT, sorry, oh, yeah, massively. And what was it? Navarrava Kant was talking about, I think it was him, talking about maybe 20% of the workforce, I can't remember if we said this on the last one, he said, like, about 20% of the workforce have just like silently been able to just get grandfathered into whatever they're doing in the company and they're just in the corners of the offices and they don't really do anything but no one's ever kind of questioned it. And actually, if they were to just

be eliminated from the workforce, nothing would change. I couldn't agree more. There's so much fat in companies and especially when you look at big bureaucratic organizations, probably in knowledge work, not so much in op-ops and logistics and like real shit. The number of team leaders, area managers, office managers, all of that sort of stuff. The people who aren't either making the main decisions at the top or nose to the grindstone at the bottom, all of those ones are good. They should really be worried. And rightly so, if you're a business who can rip out 20% of your costs during this period

and really look, so I spoke to Mike Winett. Mike. All right, guys, it's Mike, Contra to Mike Winner. Mike. Alright guys it's Mike Contrapreneur. I spoke to Mike Winner. He was, imagine this, sorry. Mike was on holiday in the Canary Islands with his friends when the lockdown occurred. Oh God. He was locked in a hotel. The Canary Islands because it's tax haven or just for... Oh it was holiday like Easter holiday with his kids. It's something, yeah, yeah. So he's locked that to, anyway, came back

and I asked him, I was like, hey man, how's everything going? He's like, I'm forced now to really look at the processes and the operations within my business and refine them down to their component parts. Had this guy called Mike McCallowitz on last night, as well wrote a book called Fix This Next. So he's just come out.

And it's what he's talking about is absolutely perfect. It's like, if you don't have a procedure that is how to be Jonathan Watson dot dot in your business so that you could, and you guys have been saying this for years, the emith thing, I think that you always quote where it's like, if you can't exit the business and the business run without you because there's processes and procedures and order in place. Like there's a big hole that's missing. Well, it's just that you've created a job, you've not created a business.

So yeah, I mean, that's, it's going to be interesting to see sort of where businesses go. So I want to, Sunni, Webster asking me this on a IG live the other day and I thought it was a really cool question. So, let's do a little round table of two things that we've been extra grateful for, that we're grateful for during this period and one thing that we miss the most, Johnny. One thing I miss the most is just seeing people, I think, like spending time in person with like friends and family. Two things I'm grateful for, it's probably quite a long list to be honest. Like, grateful I don't have coronavirus, grateful my, like, not on my

immediate family do, or friends. But like in terms of probably what you're asking the question for, I think we've been really grateful for the way our business is set up. Like, it's not. We're not, we don't have like debt, we don't have really high costs. It's all pretty easy to pivot and adapt and it feels very much like the, as you said at the start, like the risks that we took several years ago, the tables have turned a little bit. And actually what we're doing is now pretty stable compared to some industries which feels like tipping up. So as I hear, you heard the safe and stable people now

somehow. Like the people, you know, even like, I was hearing that dentists, like in quite a high risk job now, and you're like, when, when in history has dentistry ever been considered to be like not stable, it's bizarre. But now running a fitness business on the internet is like, you probably are right. You know, it's just like, it's weird. So that, and then I think just, I think hugely coincidentally for me, the start of this

year was like, right, when I really, we spoke about this in the podcast. I mean, I really like buckle down on my morning routine every day, wake up at the same time every day, like doing stuff like cold showers and whim half like stuff to make me feel good. I feel like that I was doing it for like 90 days almost and then I was like, lockdown. And you're like, ah, here we go. I actually, I feel like mentally in like a better place and I have been previously more, more consistent and stuff. So grateful that I'd been doing that up to now.

So I felt like I have a few HRV as well, isn't it? Yeah, I'm so happy. I'm so happy with watching. I'm happy and jealous and equal measure watching the progress you've made over the last 90 days, especially as someone for whom I wouldn't have presumed There was lots of low hanging fruit left. It's not like this is your first foray into personal development And you're like oh, well, I started sleeping with me for outside of me bedroom And I was like oh my god, and then I turned the speed up on me track pad and I went I'm moving so much

trackpad and I'm like I'm moving so much faster. I don't know this program called Alfred. And like yeah to see someone who you already presume is somewhere close to the top of their game make an outwardly noticeable like upgrade is pretty legit. So I'm I'm super happy for you man. I think that's fucking that is cool.. Really, really cool. Yeah, it's been good. So that's what I want you to do. So I've got lots of many things. The thing I miss the most is being at home, like just being able to spend time at home, which is ironic because... Oh, it's all for you, Rich.

Yeah, so... I think I'm just jealous of everyone who is able to be at home and self-isolate and has so much opportunity to do loads with it. But as you said, Chris, the challenge then is being able to capitalize on that when you're not used to it and having to actually, you've got so many hours of the day to then be able to do something with it. Many things that I'm looking forward to in grateful for. So cashless payments, as Johnny said, like it's well overdue. I can't wait for the Apple card. This is in order of increasing importance.

So capacity for medical equipment, so ventilators and having motor companies being able to create ventilators, like independent open sourcing of 3D printing for making extra tubes and valves, and it's like that is fantastic, and it's all this capacity that we already had, and valves and it's like that is fantastic and it's all this capacity that we already had but just being able to then say like people with 3D printers at home and not doing bot all with it and suddenly they're like ah right here's what we can actually put this effort into grateful for family especially older relatives and just thinking like actually I've taken these people for granted but something like this this, you know, when someone has limited health reserve, like a small knock can completely, can completely throw them off the off balance, as well as my own health. And you know,

all of our, all of our health, it's still not something that's guaranteed. And I think even though we're young, it's made everyone rethink their mortality a little bit and think actually, like young people can die from this as well. And so access to healthcare and the fact that we can, you know, maintaining our own health is within our hands. It's great. So maybe that's, maybe I was a bit cynical about people

that are like going out for jobs, just because they've been told not to. Perhaps it is that they're also motivated by like, oh, now I need to get into shape and you know, I need to go outdoors. And so that's that certainly there's some things I'm grateful for. Something I'm less grateful for is, well, go ahead. It's just related to that. What's the guy called who's a compatitveeter whose name's Pete? Furious Pete. Yeah, so he got Diagnos a testicular cancer, like I don't know, like a couple of years ago, I think. And I saw a video of him, like telling his

followers about it. And he's obviously very emotional, but something that he said, and something that I think I've felt I've realized recently, is he said and something that I think I've felt I've realized recently is he said like when he was diagnosed a lot of people when they get something like that, like they become more aware of their mortality. Obviously that's a lot more severe than than what we're all going through, but well, a lot more sudden, I should say. So he said like I realized I just wouldn't do anything differently. Like I like my life how it is. Like I wouldn't, a lot of people have a shock like that and they're like, right, I need to change how I approach my health

and get changed in my career and all these sorts of things. And he was like, no, just would be doing exactly the same thing. Like, wouldn't change anything. That is really so. That's so good. Nice as a confirmation, if that's how you feel. But also, like, if you get through this and you don't have, you don't get the virus or you don't have serious effects on it,

or all your family and your friends are okay. It's actually a great thing to have happened to just remind you, by the way, all the stuff you take for granted all the time, it's not guaranteed. Do you need a course correction? Yeah, that's brilliant. And to be able to have that realization and be like, you know what, I'm pretty happy with how things that's gone is amazing. Like, for anyone who hasn't seen Furious Pete, like he's awesome. There's a video where he drinks a bottle of olive oil, one where he drinks a, so these are different like macros, he drinks, he has a tub of weight just like, it just makes it

into a paste and just ponds it in about six minutes. There's one where he drinks a gallon of honey, a gap of 4,700 grams of carbs. He'd be great to have on modern wisdom. He actually would, he's a lot of fun. Yeah, he's just got some really, he's got some really strong aspects to his character. I think he's put himself through a lot of, he's been through a lot of stuff. And he's still just got a great outlook at a no. That's cool. What was the thing you were

less grateful for, Seth? My upstairs neighbor has taken up the drums, like, sure, the times take up the drums, and is having a lot more sex. But like the, the, the, so, and it's directly above my bedroom, and it's at all times of the day, because no one has any shed you or anymore. And the headboard, so the reason I can differentiate between drums and sex is that the sex hat doesn't have a defined tempo and accelerates and then stops suddenly and it's against the wall. So like as in, the headboard banging against the wall, like on one hand I'm like I'm quite impressed with how much of it like stale and the boyfriend is because it goes on for ages

and just multiple times a day at random times. But it's very disruptive, especially when you're trying to record something and it's a very difficult problem to have to be like, excuse me, I'm trying to record, can you just keep down the... Have you signed up to our free webinar? Because if you have, you'll hear yourself in the background. So can I, I want to just delve, let's do a deep dive on this. Can we talk about cadence please? I mean, are we like, is he a... Just a bit faster.

Okay, that's maintained, and we're slower than that. But it's like intermittent. Very releasing. Whereas the drums, you can hit like different hit of the drums and it's, you know, hit. Yeah. Okay. What's the average? What's the average duration? 30 to 40 minutes.

Which is what an average cadence of it does vary. So your periodises a bit. And that's multiple times a day. It's like one in the morning and stuff and you're just like like I'm so here's something for you. Right. And it's not necessarily related to that, but it's on the same theme. I have just bought the best I mask I've ever, ever used. Explain, tell us more. It's called Alaska Bear. I think it's called it was like 15 quid. So it's, there's concave, convex concave.

So there's circles that press around your eyes. It's very soft. So you can move your eye, you can blink and move your eyes. There's nothing actually pressing your eyes. Problem I always have with my eye masks, I pull them off in the night, because it feels too pressured on my face with these. I don't have that.

And the rings basically create a, like as close to a full suction because they're foam, so they adapt to your, the contours of your face. So we have on the other side of our bedroom a kid who plays video games until, I mean, it's not quite the same, like, but it's a similar problem. So I'm like, I've been having this thing in my mind of like, I should just get like a full head sleep kit. I can just drop it. I can drop it in. Yeah, plugs in.

Yeah. But you see these things that I like full, like wrap around with noise canceling stuff, putting in. You should get one of them. Funnily enough, you know, the episode which went out on Monday just gone in podcast land, because this is going to go out on Thursday, the episode which went out on Monday just gone in podcast land because this is going to go out on Thursday The episode which right now on Monday just gone is Ben Greenfield talking about his entire daily routine from waking until sleeping at night

including every product he uses all of the Different sleep masks what he he does a fucking oil pull in his mouth after he uses a copper tunger scraper and it's a combination of coconut milk. I can't talk about this here. Mate, it is, must be a hundred plus things that he drops, but he's got the brand of eye mask he uses, the brand of red blue blocking glasses that he uses,

like everything, everything full works. And it is. I've listened to, he was on the Woot podcast. I think. So I've listened to him talk about it. And he just mentions these things, and then I go in this room and I've listened to, he was on the Woot podcast, I think. So I've listened to him talk about it. And he just mentions these things, like, and then I go in this room and I use this, like, chili wave and then I use the, like, the Z mask

and then these things. And I'm like, looking all these up, I was like, that's five grand. That's 10 grand. That's 15 and a quick. And you're just like, oh, I'm sure he gets it for some kind of sponsorship team. He told me about the future.

So I thought that we were pretty leveled up by having sunrise alarm clocks and by being woken up by light. Like, ah, those fucking prehistoric labs. Yeah, the proletariat down there getting woken up by sound like it's the 1900s, fuck them. Ben Greenfield sleeps on a chilly mat full of Terry it down there getting woken up by sound like it to the 1900s fuck them. Ben Greenfield sleeps on a chilly mat and I didn't realize that the chilly mat has a function

where it can heat up at a time or cool down at a time so you can be woken up by heat or cold. Holy fucking shit. However, anyone can do that right now, like just thermostat. Yeah, the heater on a timer for the morning and full blast. I think the main reason that he has it that way is because he sleeps on one side and his misses sleeps on the other. Oh, they've got different. Oh, they've got different settings.

Yeah, which is just why is there not an I mask with lights in it? There is. I was there. it that they like lighter but it's not designed to wake you up it's designed to induce lucid dreaming so it detects when you're in REM sleep and it starts flashing in a certain pattern designed to somehow design to keep you asleep but to like trigger that you are dreaming and then that's a lucid dream that's funny so I'll do I'll do a couple of the things that I've been grateful for

and some stuff that I miss. Definitely grateful for mum and dad's health. Like that's just, you know, you totally do. I'm also grateful that they have each other and have the dogs. Because again, hearing about... Possibly. Hearing about older people, like people's parents,

people's grandparents, living on their own at the moment, fearing for your health, like it must be just so challenging. So yeah, super, super grateful for that. For me as well, like the trading circle thing that I have been a part of for the last few months, I got added to this managed trading account and the returns that they've seen, especially recently have been fantastic. So the fact that I have a source of income coming through that, which is very anti-fragile, given the current situation, that's been, I literally can't believe like the returns on that, which is great. And also the opportunity to do these podcasts, like that's,

you know, I'm doing, next week, I've got six episodes booked in and it doesn't feel laborious because like that's what my day now is You know, that's my work bit of the day and then all the other stuff and Thing that I miss you to miss seeing you to miss going out for like sauna chicken coop like getting to To have you you wondered what's happening to the sauna like do you reckon the owner is just using it as his private sauna or is it just molding Oh, it's going to be turned off. I mean it must sap a lot. It's not just a jasmine pool. Would you go somewhere else now? Yeah, jasmine pool, jasmine pool, but it must be a lot of energy Yeah, I don't have it turned off. Yeah, if they keep it on that's very boss almost certainly Yeah, it's gonna stink when they come back in.

Why? I have a client who's a, he's a bag of PT at a leisure center. And he was saying that they, there's like a concern of like maintaining the pool and stuff like that. Because obviously it's just a big vat of like chlorine water that a lot of the time has circulation, keep it. It's running, yeah, yeah. I don't know how you then, like, when you come back, do you need to like fully drain it

and then refill everything? I think just pull the plug at the beginning of the pandemic and yeah, drain. Imagine if you come to a little tennis court. You get opened up back into the real world after three weeks and you've got to find whatever like three million cubic feet of one cubic liters of water, whatever the fuck it is. Like, what did that mean? There's like the right level of chlorine, the right temperature, you know, it's not.

Assuming pool's not just like from the tap, it's, just leave the tap running overnight. And, you know, you've spiked it. Find in the morning. Well, I thought, like, you could, if you just get a bucket and two blocs, just get it back and forth. blocs just going back and forth Philip and the top yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Look, Jens. Thank you so much for coming on

propanefitness.com slash modern wisdom for those online fitness professionals and people who think that they want to start making a pivot. What else should they where else should they check out? So we never even plug your stuff. We never even say that. Well, you should go and check them out. Because we just presume that they already folly. Well, that's, I mean, if they're not, then what are you doing? But we have two main audiences.

So the, for the business stuff, anyone wanting to, to do that, it's privinfinance.com, forward slash modern wisdom. Remember it's propane as in the gas not stance on pain and for a fit pain. We are not get that question. Pro anti pain. Yeah. And for the fitness crowd who just want to get in better shape, especially during this period, go to propinion fitness.com forward slash calculator or just propinifitness.com. We also have a

free self-isolation bodyweight program, which we're just given away for free, no strings attached, just to help you guys out during this time. Incrucially, we're not pivoting our entire marketing around bodyweight programs or live videos. You'll see no jump support from the long-term conservatory. I love it, I love it, man. Look, boys. Thank you so much. I think we should try and we've done this. This was two weeks ago that we did the last one. If we can get another one in a weekend coming up soon, you are by far the most requested of all guests,

which is ridiculous. I can try and book on Ben Greenfield or Alderay Marcus. No, no, no, no, no. If you got that Arab and the one with the really long legs again, because the Captain Hook guy, yeah, Manu look like Captain Hook. And that Aryan one. Yeah, yeah.

If we got that... It doesn't look like as much of a giant now that the perspective is normal. No, I don't. Yeah, you've got nothing to compare him to though. Well, normally I'm sat next to the camera, aren't I? Fish, I'm in thinking of her into though. Well, normally I'm start like next to the camera, aren't I? Fish I'm in. Next to the camera.

Sorry, can I? Before we finish off, this is a public service announcement to everyone else that's suffering with the same thing I am. I cannot stop eating. I can't stop eating at the moment because I'm never leaving the house. I'm constantly near the kitchen and I'm training a fair bit. So today, today I clocked in at the heaviest I've ever weighed 90.2 kilos. So what you're experiencing now, Chris, is this weird thing that a lot of people have

to go through, which is being careful in tracking what they consume in order to be absolutely The abs lean tracking like I can see you still just do my fitness pal at the moment is 200 260 60 and I'm hitting it within like 20 so it's like 2 2 4 2 5 that fat carbon protein I've been interesting day. Oh God be awesome very loose day Yeah, so what you are you are tracking? So yeah, I to be an interesting day. Oh God, it would be awesome. You're very loose day. Yeah. So what you are tracking. So yeah, to be honest, I, it's not, it's not really changed for me. You're very disciplined with, you're very disciplined. I am. I am. I struggle with, I get really hungry. Like I'm quite a big person. I move around quite a bit. I train. So, and then like, not eating very much food is quite difficult, but yeah. What do you eat? Talk us through

a day of eating in the life of Chris. Fasted or eating? Fasted until about 1 or 2 p.m. So I'm training at midday, every day with my flatmate at the moment, Lewis, which is good, super, super fortunate. Elco, anyone who actually needs, need if you got anyone who still needs kit like dumbbells, kettlebells, weights, plates, bars, stuff like that. Aleco, because they're Swedish and they've basically just going about their daily business as is normal. They're still delivering everything. So just head to, I think it's like a lake or dot code at UK. Just Google L E L E I K O E L E I K O.

Have you seen the April Fools thing? No, what was it? Man, their April Fools things are the best of any company. So it's a portable barbell in a box. But go on the Instagram, have a look at it. And then scroll back and all the previous, like they did a waffle iron, they did square plates. And it's really highly like produced the entrance.

And look, fuck, like square plates, is that better? Like should I be doing square plates? And then you're like, oh, all that. Especially because of the echo you're like, oh well, I mean, this is a bit of a... So premium. It's gonna be true, yeah. So yeah, if you need, if you need kit,

final thing, here's my final thing for everyone. Come on, you're doing your day of eating. Oh, you're doing your day, sorry. So, fasted until 2 p.m. post training, then shake and banana, some sort of fruit. Right. Shake, jump up and down, really, really on myself around. So, that is bulk powders, beef isolate.

Then, my days cooking's already been done, that's part of my morning routine. And that will be three chicken breasts and 260 grams of rice with vegetables salad and some sort of sauce. And that's just split into my top of the day. So eat those as the day goes on. Probably one barebells or one sort of protein

works crunky type snack thing to keep me going and then an evening time is granola with vanilla bear bells milkshake and that comes out a pretty much bang on getting the protein in is the challenge that 200 grams of protein a day is it doesn't sound like much but it's actually quite sort of challenging without nearly a kilo of meat, isn't it? It's easy when you have eat lean cheese. Oh, fuck yeah, it is. When you basically, when your cheese is essentially a protein supplement, it's, and cheese is nice, obviously.

Cheese is good. Here's my final thing, Bob Mortimer on Instagram. Have either of you seen him? You know Bob Mortimer is, British comedian, older fellow. Does Mortimer, you're both recognized who he is, he's been in tons and tons and tons of stuff. He's created a character who only exists on his Instagram. And it's called Train Guy,

and he must have just heard this like British entrepreneur on the train talking about all of the different things that he does. So he's now all that his Instagram is him doing these pretend phone calls to people to face, just like this, like not produced at all. I promise you, it's one of the best series that I've ever seen. It's, I wouldn't surprise me if it becomes like a proper TV show. And it's just fucking phenomenal.

So I'm going to leave you if you haven't seen that already. There's a rabbit hole of probably 30 or 40 posts, yeah, yeah, 30 or 40 posts. And then there's this other guy called Jeff Linton, the Lintonator, and he comes on sometimes and talks about it. But look, propinifitness.com slash modern wisdom or propinifitness.com slash calculator, if you are interested in looking at pivoting online or getting some free workouts to do at home, no more jumping squats. And if you've enjoyed the episode, give me a message and I can screenshot it to the boys and make them come back on because the reason they did is because I got hassled so much.

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