Modern Wisdom - #200 - Episode 200 Q&A

Episode Date: July 23, 2020

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Hi friends, welcome back. My guests today are Johnny and Yusef from propanefitness.com and it is the big 2.00 that's right the double century knot house for modern wisdom. Thank you to everyone who has tuned in. There are some of you that have been here right since episode one back at the beginning of 2018 and to, you deserve some form of bravery medal for putting up with a few hundred hours of me talking. But we asked for questions on our Instagrams and we got some absolute purlers. So you'll get to hear us answer, what is the meaning of life? What is the most significant moment we've ever encountered on a podcast. Would you rather bum your mama, your dad? It's the full gamut, right? They run the entire spectrum of questions today. I miss

the boys. You know, I miss recording with Dean and Yusuf and Johnny in my house. It's fun, or ever being able to get these episodes to another Skype, but it's not the same. So I'm really looking forward to lockdown lifting so that we can get some stuff done in person. And yeah, it'll be fun. This was good, but I just, I miss doing it properly. Got Daniel Sos in my ear and Rory Sutherland, chatting away to bunches of different people that I'd

love to speak to in person, but I'm terrified that I'm going to get a criminal record if I do it. So yeah, we'll see what happens. But again, thank you everyone who tunes in. I love you all the bits. You are my weird fucked up curious little family, and I could not be happier that you are here with me. But for now, it's time for the wise and wonderful Johnny and Yusuf.

It's episode 200! Weeeeee! A-two-hundee. Two-hundee. As if it's been 200 episodes of this podcast, man. How many hours have you spoken on a podcast, Chris, now? At least 300, probably. Probably close at a 400, isn't it? Maybe not.

Maybe probably about bang on three, I guess. I'm thinking, like, if you have a, the edited file is the trimmed down version all the time isn't it? Or is it not for you? Never, never, never touch it man, never play around with it. But then with Gahoye, yeah, yeah, neat, neat. It's the equivalent of ordering a steak blue. Straight, no frills, no filters.

Yeah exactly. Unfelted Chris. That frills. No filters. Yeah, exactly. Unfelted Chris. That's what it is, man. So, yes, today we are doing episode 200, Q&As, between my Instagram and the propane Instagram account. We have a lot of questions, varying degrees of seriousness and full spectrum, really. Some truly heartfelt ones. And then some just like, would you rather bum your murmur

or your dad? I think that spectrum is probably the opposite word for them. Where should we start with? Well, there's one. How much editing do you do? Do you ever cut out parts of the conversation from Jennifer Lons?

Never, ever cut the episode. The only times that that happens is if there's a connection dropout or if someone says something libelous that's like like a litigating nightmare, which essentially doesn't happen. I just don't want to get. What would be an example? You don't have to say what it is. But what could someone say on a podcast, where someone might get paid? If someone, if someone, if someone docs someone, if someone said where someone lived or where someone worked or like a celebrity's real name or something like that, like the email

address or website that someone like works out of or whatever it might be. Have you ever ditched an episode entirely? So in 200 episodes, I've got rid of five, added another one to the list the other week. So it's pretty, pretty fucking good, like a 2% failure rate. We've ditched out of 250. We did two out of 250. That's good man. I know what one of those is. So they were just to spare the the guest. Yeah. Because just don't think the guest came across very well. So it's a sign as mine. It's always like this just isn't going to add much to the audience. You got faith that they're going to enjoy whatever you put out. But yeah, that was a

that was good. Right. You got one. You got a top top're going to enjoy whatever you put out, but yeah, that was good. Right. You got one. You got a top question. Good one. Let's have a look. So, let's ignore Tim Garrett. Sorry, Tim.

That's one for the propane one. Lil McDaddy says, what are the best and worst experiences you've had and what changed your lives positively? Jesus Christ. Yeah, I know. It's a bit of a big question, isn't it? Yeah, a big old question. Best and worst experiences. Yeah, these really are existential, aren't they? Should we let that one marinate? Yeah, let's let that one marinate. I've got one here that says,

does your tash tickle by Sarah Jane Chamberlain one and left or you're right tash tickle. Nice. Nice. That's high browing that that's brilliant. I'm having a little bit of digestive discomfort because we went out for dinner last night. We stopped eating about 14 hours ago and I'm still full. You did order a lot of food, Chris. Yeah, no, but it was our first, it was the first meal we've had in like four months. Not a lot of it. It was Chris's question of what, what does the Guinness would steak award-winning pie come with?

And she was like, pie and carrots and you're like, last and garlic bread as well. So it doesn't come with pasta. It doesn't come with a side of pasta. Of another day. OK. What's pizza? There's no pizza.

And the rocky road cheesecake. Rocky road cheesecake with rum and raisin ice cream. It's your ice cream. legit. This is my worst experience today. What's that? This is a parking penalty notice. Not parking.

Steeding. I bet that you're going to somehow say it was the thought of it. Yeah, no, it was my fault. Like it was a 34 in a 30 zone speed. I'm going to do speed awareness waste of a day, but hate speed awareness. Oh, yeah, it's very circular, patronizing the circular. Is your is a day of your life worth a hundred pounds yes or no. That's the thing isn't it but it's the I've been advised because of

the premium insurance. I think you still have to declare it. You don't you don't declare that you've done a speed awareness call. That's the risk you're willing to take. I did. So I did declare that I'd done that thing as like I'd put down 30 miles an hour and then put in the notes speed awareness and it turned out I'd been paying higher premiums for two years when I didn't need to. So there's a life hack for you. If you've been popped for speeding, done the speed awareness course, it doesn't go on your insurance document. However, that is not legal advice and we are not your solicitor. We are not lawyers. When I went on one, there was a guy at the front who just was just

the contrarian who just answered the obviously the wrong question. And when someone does that, they have to circle background over the material and cover it again. Is that because he was just not getting it or he was trying to be a really part of it was like, they asked the question and everyone in the room apart from one guy submitted their answer. And they were like, because it's all anonymized. And this guy at the front one, like, and then you press the wrong button. So it was like, I understand, I understand that speeding can be dangerous.

19 out of 20 people, yes, I understand one person. No, I don't agree. Just making the day slower. We're going to go. We're going to go. Oh, wait. That's where you're going to look for, Timah. You're going to hate it. Just making the day slow. We're going to go like here. We go. Oh, wait. That's where you got to look for Tim. Yeah, you're going to hate it.

We'll check back in. Once you've done your speed awareness course, we'll check back in. It's fine. What I'm going to do is paint eyelids, paint eyes on my eyelids. In the other German style. That's a love for you, isn't it, when that happens? That would also be quite enjoyable quite enjoyable. Mike, okay,

how you got into club promoting slash running events. So I was skint during the, just after Freshers Week, and I sat down next to my then would be business partner in my first ever seminar. And we just said, I've spent all my money in Freshers Week. And he said, oh, I used to work for this company in Leeds. You should come to this thing. I can get you a job flying. You started flying. We were flying partners then became like whole managers, then event managers, then junior

event, then senior event, then got my first franchise when I was 19 in between first and second year and that was carnage. And it kind of has just been controlled falling down a big set of stairs from then. So that's kind of how it's done. We got another one here from Mikey McKay lag five. How can I get rid of my nihilism? Wow. Well, it's a nihilistic question so want to get rid of. Maybe just embrace it. Is it? I think it's quite proactive and... Listen to episode 189 between me and Kyle Eschenroder,

working out what you want to want in life. That will help to get rid of nihilism. What have you learned from podcasting? Festim 96? Fucking hell. What have you guys learned within the last month from a podcast? It's probably the best way to communicate with an audience, I think. I think it's because people listen to podcasting when they are like doing something otherwise quite manual and want something interesting or entertaining. And so like you usually have quite a bit of their attention. So as a, as a communication form of content that they would never otherwise consume. So Johnny said the other day that podcast

is a conversion tool rather than a traffic tool. And I'm really coming round to that idea that people see podcasting as a surrogate for having friends. And it's a way to really build a relationship with someone who's already in your audience, but because it's not a very social platform, it's not something that's immediately shareable, it's really for people who are already aware of you, but want to go into the deepest. Yeah, it's challenging to grow an audience on a podcast because it, naturally, there's no virality, the short form stuff, there's no trending on like Apple podcasts or on Spotify or whatever, which inevitably makes it hard. But yeah, you're right.

The depth of connection that you end up getting with people. I mean, that latent leverage thing that you guys see whenever we, whenever you guys come on, you always get tons of people that want to start working with you because they buy into the effort that you've put in coming on to the show and this sort of stuff. And then the launch of that email list, the other week for me, was exactly the same. You've got this latent leverage that's been in there. It's the only thing that, like, of anything we do, is the only thing where people will,

like when you speak to them, they remember something you said on a podcast, like a hundred episodes ago, or they remember like a private joke, or a comment you made, and you don't get, we don't get that on any other content method. So I think it does just, it's a way of almost, as Yusuf says, like you build friendships with people almost virtually,

or like people know a lot about you and you know nothing about them. That's a scary thing, man. There's such an asymmetry. Which it kind of makes you feel a bit guilty. You kind of a bit like, can you please record 300 hours of content and send it to me so that I can then be as up to date on you as you are on me, then let them move forward. So it happens a lot with my flatmate, where I'll say something, he'll be like, oh yeah, I know. I'm not going to do this, but he means that,

oh no, it was on episode one, two, seven of the modern wisdom and episode 53 of the propane podcast. I'm like, all right, I'll come out into the living wisdom and episode 53 of the propane podcast. You're like, right, or like, I'll come out into the living room and I hear my voice on double speed as I walk past, I'm like. There was something, there was one thing that once happened, this was when I was still working as an accountant, when I was sat in a, in a building,

in a room in like a presentation in leads and I could see someone two rows in front of me, like get their phone out and then like close an app and the app was the prop-in fitness podcast on Apple Podcasts and I was just like, that's so weird. You know, you just like, yeah, yeah, exactly. Please, please, no photos, no photos. No question. Big glasses and a massive hat on.

But it's also the feeling of like, when someone says, I've listened to your podcast, I always think, like, whatever, it's almost like someone's read my, read a journal, because you think, like, something I thought two months ago, I probably really thought at the time, but I can't really remember what I was going to say. I even recall what it was now. I mean, someone who was decorating his house had said that

he'd put... He'd basically created a playlist of every modern wisdom episode from one to whatever it was, 180. And it just started watching them. And highlighted that between, I think, its episode, Lifehack's 101 and Lifehack's 102, we changed t-shirts, but the camera doesn't change position and neither does the lamp on the table. Wow, that is a absolute slute. Because I told you guys to bring a change of clothes so that we could get two episodes out of one session, but we didn't move enough of the scene. So he was like, I just wanted to do that.

Yeah, I just wanted to do that. Actually, that was recorded in one session rather than two. I was like, holy fucking shit, that was 2018, like January 2018. And we did the pilot. We did the pilot episode in July 2017. He must have been the vacuum cleaner on, don't fuck with cats. And it was like, that vacuum cleaner is manufactured in a foreign, actually IE. Components are produced in Sweden and they're imported via Chinese manufacturing company.

Yeah, fucking hell, man. Top three favorite podcasts you've recorded. With you guys, I think the How to Survive University episode is wildly underrated. That was a banger. So I cannot remember anything of what I said on that episode.

Ashall. Do you know what the advantage is? It's all recorded and it's just jugged your memory. Brilliant. You don't even need to remember anything. Do you just do loads of podcasts? Always. Like that connomer if you guys just livestream your life and then you'll never need to remember what you did. Yeah, if you forget where you put something, doesn't matter. Just go back to when you last had it on the live stream. Put it up. Yeah, how to survive university? We've done, here's one thing I've been thinking. I feel like we blew our load pretty early on a lot of mint topics.

Like the relationship series 101, 104 was great. How to survive university was great. Our confidence episode that mean you did use it when Johnny was on holiday was episode 13. And it was an amazing, amazing episode, just two of us. But now it's like orders of magnitude, like a thousand times more people listen. And so if you're listening and you think, oh, all of this sounds quite good,

I can do it a little bit more, Johnny and junior news if there's fucking tons in the back catalog. So get into the get into the 20s and the 30s and the 40s and crack crack some of them out. I mean, to be honest, if you want more junior and you surf, like we do have our own podcast as well with 250 episodes podcasts, true one fitness, one business. Yes. Podcast. I think my favorite bottom was the moment that I've been on was when, well, two things, actually. You said, just sat with David Bradley. Well, no, because he knows it's about here. Well, my favorite bit, I edited into one of our videos yesterday, which I'll mention

in a second, but... Okay. So, it's when Yusef talks about how he used to arbitrage batteries. And that's how, you know, like, oh no, don't go to the petrol station. Come to me, I'll get you a good price. I'll give you a good price. That's one of them. Second one is when Yusef told Chris and I that his laptop was custom made for Macbooks. Oh, his laptop bag. Yeah, that's it, yeah.

And Chris and I, in fact, I've got a third one. And then Chris and I just exchange this glance of camera. As Yusef was explaining, first out laughing and Yusef was like, what are you laughing at? What are you laughing at? Is it the condoms? Is it the Quasant? Is it the condoms? Is it the Quassant? It's the condoms of the Quassant.

Third one was you said talking about the jaw position in or out. Yeah, I'm doing. Why did we talk about that? You talked about prognathe and retrognatia and the surgery required to do each one of them. So, I'm going to go, you said, go, it's like, I like looks at each of us. Yeah. And then, it's because VGD was there with his high death, 5K camera, losing it behind the camera. Yeah, just losing his shit.

That's another element that no one ever gets to see, the fact that behind the lens, however funny we find something, Dean needs to find it equally funny, but be silent. So that's one of my favorite things about the whole thing. Yeah, it's what she needs to do. It's an absolute ninja as well. He manages to just like, well, the funniest, I'm going to have to take my headphones off here to do this, but it's when he does like a, yeah, oh yeah. Like a ninja warrior style hurdle over all of you. He's got it down to like spinal reflex level. Of course. Yeah, it's like cat.

When you watch a cat go slowly down. Yeah. I think someone recorded a like an experiment where they lined up thousands of dominoes in the hallway. They've got a cat and a dog and they filmed it from the other side where the cat traverses the hallway and manages to like really carefully just step over everything. And then the dog just wades in. What did you say was one of your favourite bits, so it's the bit that I edited into our new

channel trade-low, which is without the sound. But it's what I say I edited into our new channel, Treylo, which is when it's without the sand, but it's what I say when you're in a nightclub in the toilets, you should be protecting your penis from your hands. And Chris went full ragtom. Oh my God. It made me go floppy. It made my entire body go flaccid. It was so funny.

You should there's an argument to be made that you should be protecting your penis from your hands. And it made every part should be protecting your penis from your hands. And it made every part... Johnny's like, exactly, that's what you thought it was. Made every bit of me just go totally flaccid. If the delay as well, there was just a bit of silence, isn't it? Ah!

Yeah, fucking hell. So, how to survive university in relationships of both, take one ones with you guys. Other episodes I've done recently that were great. Kyle Eschenroder, this help workout, what you want to want is, it's so good. Daniel Schmackton-Burger was insane as well. Those are quite deep. Great name.

Quite an amazing name. What else we got? What is your biggest lesson from 200 podcasts? Jesus. Your competitive advantage is determined by being authentic to who you truly are. No one can beat you at being you, basically, that the closer that you are to being whatever is most comes most naturally. Yeah, you need to make yourself better and augment your existing capacities, but your particular

amalgamation of life experiences and traumas and predispositions and where you brought up in the factory, an only child or someone that's Arab or someone that's got a three-and-re-killer deadlift, or you know, I mean, all of those things. Like, but they are, they genuinely are, the uniqueness that you have, that is your competitive advantage. So I think that's a fairly big one. How? That's a big lesson from the four hour chef as well,

where he talks about if you're gonna be in the top 1% of anything, or the top 0.1% of anything to be able to have this competitive advantage, that requires such a disproportionate amount of effort. But actually, if instead you're in the top 5% of four things, you've got this intersection where you're this unique combination and you don't have to compete with anyone because there's a total blue ocean. So I like that. The only problem is that a lot of the time it's hard. Many diluting yourself across multiple different domains that don't enhance each other actually ends up spreading yourself too thin. So they have to be things that do like have some kind of

food desserts and pitisserie and cocktails and food as opposed to food. Well, so yeah, and like getting to the top 5% is, you know, 80% of the work and then getting to the final, or so it's 20% of the work and getting the final 1% is 80% remaining, whereas like getting to the top, like getting published papers in nature and like going hard in like academia or hard in competitive swimming or something like that, it's such a grind and it's required much more sacrifice. I think I agree with both of you that easy at getting top 5%, but there's an example of like if you use a for a top 5% pastry chef and you're also like a doctor and had all these

other things like the fat ear pastry chef doesn't really help anything. Like all the other things like the fact that your appacerschef doesn't really help anything like all the other things don't know what I'm talking about this in terms of is like SEO, Facebook, ads, content marketing and then if you become like a full stack entrepreneur, you're going to have much more synergy than if you just become like an absolute beast at SEO and nothing else. Yeah, fair enough. How did you start your podcasts and what is your purpose in the long run? Just one second, my lesson. You didn't ask me the question. Sorry. I had a lesson already to go.

Hit me. And now everyone's like, oh fuck, I've got a good choice. He's got a good point here. He's going to be good. Yeah, but it's going to be good. Just that we speak to a lot of people who like don't start something because they think they're going to be shit at it. And I think go and look at, go and listen to, in fact, they may not even be on the internet anymore, because they were so bad, but our first podcasts are horrendous. We've taken them off. Have we taken them off?

It was really shit, yeah. Like, done on an old MacBook, like a phone, on a like Skype. I mean, he's a Skype to do these sorts of episodes and then, and like no editing or anything like that. And then go and watch Chris, Chris's first podcast appearance on our podcast called Chris Fit. The cool Chris fit. Yeah, the Levin, office. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the compare Chris on that episode of Chris now And people are like, I'm not I'm not gonna start podcast or I really want to do YouTube channel But I can't some shit. I really want to do whatever but I'll be shit I'm not as good as people who've done 200 episodes. Well, like obviously not

Like there's no way to get better at something like this Without just accepting that you are going to be really bad at us in the very beginning. That's a really fantastic takeaway. And the other thing as well is that like if you're waiting until you feel like you're ready, you're going to be waiting forever. I know it's a bit of a cliche, like Instagram quote thing, but it is the truth. And if it's something that you think that you're going to enjoy, you're not going to lose anything by trying it in any case, right?

We say it's all the time, like you can either be any years time, you can either have moved your fitness business online and have a load of lessons as a result of that, or any years time still be thinking, wouldn't it be a good idea to move my fitness business online? Like which is better in those situations? Absolutely. And like the market is the best form of feedback as well. So even if you put stuff out there, you don't think it's great. If it takes off, you're obviously doing something right. And if it doesn't, you're going to get feedback as to what is the better way to go about this.

But you must have episodes, Chris, where you've done them. And you must think like this is going to be like this is the one, and it maybe does not as good as you expect. And then the opposite. Absolutely, man. Wait, it's every episode with us guys, where I'm like, I can get some huge net of Ben Greenfield or Aubrey Marcus or Derek Sivas or something like that and it'll perform well, but I'll get more messages about a catch-up episode where we discuss UCIFF's new B-Date, like

Shuttoff a B-Date or something, you know? Like that's what really sort of seems to resonate with people and I don't know, it like shut off a B-Day or something, you know? Like that's what really sort of seems to resonate with people and I don't know, it's, you can't, genuinely with content creation, you just haven't got a clue what's going to land. Sometimes you've got an inkling. Oh, of course. But like, you've, your top watched video

which everyone should go and check out on the ProPimp Fitness YouTube channel, what I learned from six months of sleeping on the floor or whatever it is. And it's like, that's unpredictable. Yeah, like there's no reason that that should have done well. So yeah, that's a great thing to take away. If you are considering starting a, whatever, a blog, a vlog, a YouTube channel, a podcast, whatever it might be, crack on.

Like just go and do it and learn. I think I had one about, someone had asked it somewhere down here about how do I set up or what's the particular setup for the podcast. This one, the current setup is two Niva LED panel lights, a Logitech C220X webcam. this is a Sure SM7B in a cloud lifter into an Audien ID14 recording into garage band, then or phonic

masters it, like that's it, that's how I make the podcast, but you can make all of this with the webcam on your laptop and a blue Yeti, which is a hundred quid, and you will get 90% of the quality that you need if you can sit in front of a big window. That's it. Yeah, that's it. And what I'm worried about, though, Chris, is that I've got the, like, we've got all of the production quality, like, we've got the lighting, the, like, but all that sort of stuff. And we've got the files, like, produced, almost like a radio station standard. It's the cost of the hosting them that I'm

into. Thanks. Do you think I'm a, do you think I'm a fucking prick? How much did it cost to put something on that already been recorded on the internet? Do you think I'm a fucking prick? My favorite moment ever of modernism history. We have that on the field. Actually, and the audio had gone, wasn't it? Basically, we did a live podcast for a very big radio company a year ago

and got invited in by people that do this professionally for a living for decades, because the CEO of that company listens to the show and really likes it. And one of the guys asked, yeah, what I'd quite like to know is, let's say that we've recorded everything in the studio, we've got the content down, obviously, it's mixed and mastered. And what I want to know is, what's the sort of cost, you know, monetarily, to the aforementioned pertaining to the upload of the file to the distributor of the RSS feed.

Do you know what's the sort of cost? And you said internally took massive offense to that question. I had a bit of an internal hemorrhage. You could see him, like you could see him to lean forward as he was coming at the end of his question, you know. Is he going to fight this man? Just to clarify, sir, you're saying you've done all of the work required to have a show ready to go, you know, we're going to host it on the internet. How much has that been in the cough?

It's sold up. Ten. Maybe twenty pounds. So. Do you think I'm a fucking prick? Gee, that was... Like, if we, we three random guys have done this, I'm sure you can justify that.

An entire second team behind huge radio stations can also do it. We have so many to do, we're already half an hour in, right? Let's go a little bit more quick, if you're interested to know your best movie and documentary recommendations, so moving a documentary you've watched recently that you've enjoyed. One I've enjoyed is the staircase on Netflix, as I was telling you guys about it last night over dinner, pretty good. And movie, favorite movie of all time is interstellar, just fucking epic, so good. Johnny. What is the question this is?

The Pistory is one. Yeah, it's a documentary, that's pretty good. Yeah. Favorite movie recently would be The Gentleman by Guy Richie, Tremeless film. Not very serious. I always say fight club to that path become like the thing to say, isn't it? I feel like people say fight club. They don't really know why it's just because of what Brad Pitt's really leaning in it and it's got Ed Norton in. So I'll say fight club. Do you think as well like after a little bit of time, it of time, it diminishing returns because you've watched it so much,

and you almost fall out of love with it. So after 10 times of watching anything, just not that good anymore? Yeah, I've tried rewatching Fight Club in the past like a couple of years, and it doesn't, I don't get anything out of it at all, which is a real shame. But yeah, Oscar for stories on Amazon. Excuse me, I'm the gentleman.

Cool. Seth. I've seen about three films in my life and one of them is Fight Club. So, so I'm not the one, I've seen Interstellar actually, it was on the first date. And it was with someone who actually also wasn't into films, but we both thought that that was like the thing that you're supposed to do is like, Oh, we go to a film with three hour sci fi. we both thought that that was like the thing that you're supposed to do is like, oh, we go to a film. So we're going to read our sci-fi. I was talking about like space time and like some big, pretty big topics.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big things. Big things. Another film actually, Parasite. The one I got I told you guys about. Korean.

The one that's subtitled. Oh, that's, that's on my list. Whoa, whoa. Lift that box subtitled. Oh, that's that's on my list. Whoa whoa. Lift that box up again. What do you box? It looked like you picked up an AirPods Pro box. Did look exactly like that. No, it's just my wired ones. What did you just have in your hand? Circle background, would it you just had something in your hand?ods Pro got. It's got mirror, phone, earphones and we've got this on video. Just, I think he's having us on.

Just, just so you know, I've got this on video and I can go back and see if you've secretly bought AirPods Pros. You definitely see I've secretly got like a right. No, Johnny, Johnny, it's fine. It's fine. We'll go back and we'll analyze the everyone that's listening. You just rewind by about 30 seconds and see if you've picked up a fucking, if you've bought air pod pros and not if you've bought them, his connection's going as well.

He's pressed the, he's pressed the, he's as well. He's pressed the, he's pressed. Imagine the hit to my, but that might. What? He's pressed the, imagine it hit a ego. You say, what happened? You say, now, now what, you've pressed the button that means that he connection drops out, so that me and Johnny can stop interrogating you about you. He's got like a jammer. Yeah, that's exactly what's happened. It's, you know, who it is. got like a jammer. Yeah, that's exactly what happened.

It's, you know, he is. It's jammer. It's, it's, it's the large farmer. The very large farmer is coming in to, Oh, I love it. Fee, five,

four, four, five, five, five, five, five, five,

five, five, five, five, five, right chickens. Moving on. So David McIntosh Jr. asked, he elaborated on this in my DMs, how to control phone usage in physical spaces. So distance is one of them, just add friction. So only use your phone when you're standing up, keep your phone outside of your bedroom, sleep with it outside of your bedroom. I think one of you guys use a box. It's Jordan there's that uses a box. I love blocks. It's a plastic box that locks. It doesn't allow you to open it. Because I was like, Jordan, why happens if you need to use your phone when it's in the box?

You're like, I don't use it. Just shout, hey Siri at the box. If you have AirPods, if you have AirPods, it does matter, does it? Any things that you guys use to help reduce phone usage? I think it's delete apps. I know that's a really obvious one, but like the digital minimalism thing of like appraise all of your digital use for what you're trying to get out of it.

Decide whether that is the best use of the thing. Like if like, okay, so I want to be, I want to connect with friends. Therefore, I need Instagram, for example. Like, well, is there another way I could achieve the same thing without having to accept the cost of Instagram? But like, yeah, I'm not great with my phone,

really, I look at it too much. Yeah, absolutely. I think everyone does. Even you, Yusuf, who's the least sort of tanky. Yes, exactly. And if it's, if you are using yours and feel like you're using yours too much, there's kind of no hope for the rest of us.

I don't know if anyone. Yeah. So I'm going to do a video on this soon because there's a game that I got. So I find whenever I'm going through a bit of a dark patch or a stressed patch in my life, I download this re-stupid game on my phone. It's like a Mortal Kombat game,

and I end up just getting completely sucked into it. And it happened during one year of my, like the worst exams in med school, for like a month, and it happened a few months ago as well. And it's one of those games that, like, I'm not even a gamer, I'm not into that stuff. And it's such a stupid, like, linear, like just button-mash the thing.

But it taps into all of the little dopamine buttons and everything and you know that it's designed not for not for actually a fun gameplay experience, but just to be this compulsive thing. And yeah, I just had one day I was like, I fucked this up, I should have to leave it like I spent and cash on grading more souls and like, this is a shock, this is a real shock. You have to keep doing quests, whenever I was at with my girlfriend and like, should we be like, are you doing a quest?

I'm like, yeah, shut up, man. Like, fucking listen man. I'm blown by this. And so one day I was like, right, I've just got to delete it, delete it, didn't miss it at all. Just like, so it shows that it's not. It's not. But that it shows that it's not.

It's not. It's not. It's not. It's's not. But that shows it's not. But that shows it's not. But that shows it's not. But that shows it's not. But that shows it's not. But that shows it's not. But that shows it's not. But that shows it.

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But that shows it. But that shows it. But that shows it. But that shows it. But that shows it. But that shows it. But that shows it. But that shows it. But that shows it's like that's your vice. And some people some people chain smoke. Some some some people are abusive to their partners. You download a mortal combat game. Well, so the now this is the difficulty. Anyone listening, I challenge you and I really don't recommend

this. I feel like I'm recommending like going off and buying heroin. But if you download that game, just be aware, because life is over. Just more to combat mobile. So I remember you said, I remember you said, message me saying, this is a year and a half ago that you've been playing on a game for a long time on his phone. And I was like, say it's similar, exact, similar reaction, like this is strange. Like, there's been some kind of disturbance in space. I should listen to this.

And then he told me, what was it called? You know the one I'm talking about? Venture capitalist. Adventure capitalist. Adventure capitalist. And he was like, Johnny, you'd love it. You'd love it. I was like, all right, cool, yeah, I'll download it.

And then it got to the point with me where it was the first thing I did when I woke up in the morning was I was like, I checked my accumulated, when I was onto like quintillions of, you know, when you're running a burger shop that's pulling in like a hundred grand a second. You know, and stuff like this.

And you're like upgrading the, you know, you're hiring a manager to run your burger shops. You can invest in an oil, an oil tank or whatever it is. And you're moving to Mars and all these sorts of things. And yeah, I got the point. I was like, I need to delete this now. an oil tank or whatever it is and you're moving to Mars and all these sorts of things. And yeah, I got the point. I was like, I need to delete this now. So you said, you're the one of those games that really taps into that. Yeah. How to control your emotions and then in Asterox, is Asterox after that, it says, there are a lot of deaths happening due to mental illness.

There's some dark questions coming out here, man. Episode 200. There's Samaritans released a study showing that there's no significant increase in suicides since COVID has, since lockdown has happened. But that suicidality is only, you know, it's only one measure of mental health and mental wellbeing. So it may well be that everyone's mood has generally dropped, but it's not necessarily increased suicidal. I'm not sure that I'm not sure that you want to control your emotions, like control your emotions, what

that question means, how to control your emotions is how do I not feel feelings that I don't want to feel? Like you're always going to feel feelings that you don't want to feel. It's a case of whether or not you have the equanimity to let them go. So spend some time doing a little bit of introspective work and meditate for 15 minutes a day for a year. And within the space of a year you will be at least better equipped to deal with both bad and good emotions. You don't want to fix it, you don't want to suppress, that's what equanimity means. So it's a bit of a woke sort of answer to it, but I'd definitely say meditation, other stuff, make sure you're getting off sunlight, stay up all sleep and wake up and have enough friends

around you, have a job that you care about to make sure you're eating good food, drinking of water. Like it's the basic shit. The stuff that your mum and dad tried to get you to do as a kid actually had a ton of wisdom in it because they weren't being thrown around by the newest trend in personal development. They only had the basic, the most basic plan, like the light version, personal development, light, basic, free, with no discount code on it. And that's what they were running on. And that's what they had left.

So it's like, just stick to their stuff. Which of your failures? I have some thoughts on that, Chris. Hit me. I'm trying to get through these. I know it's because all of the questions are good and we want to delve into them. Honestly, we have five hour podcasts if we're not careful. So I would, I think similar to what you just said. So I think whenever I, and similar to what you just said, whenever I have like mood, a decrease in mood, it's always when I am like my sleep isn't very good, my diet's not very good, I'm not like my step counts lower, I've not

been training as often, I've on my phone a lot. So like just manage the like the bait, I give yourself the best chance of not like just being in a mood. And then you're more likely to, as you say, have more equanimity when a negative thought does arise or when a negative feeling does arise. And then something I'm doing at the moment is tracking what I do every hour for a week to look at, as I'm tracking my, like, how stressed I feel, how focused I feel, and my mood to try and spot, like, because I think a lot of the time, when you feel certain ways you are doing certain things

or have just done a certain thing, you don't really spot the correlations in your time, so you're like, oh, look, I'm like, whenever I do this in the morning, I feel shit for two hours. Is anything come up? Not so far, like, I'm mainly doing it to, we've just brought someone on into the team at ProPaint

So I'm more looking at like what am I wasting my time doing? I'm just so I told you over dinner last night man like I'm so gassed for you guys to finally have someone Like you you for everyone that's listening joining you needs if have Trolled through the sludge of online business for a decade and have kind of pieced together doing it be like me still handing out every flyer for all of my events, scheduling every social media post, doing the accounts, standing on the front door, taking the money at the till, also DJing and making the music happen, whilst cleaning the glasses and serving the drinks. Like, you guys have done top to bottom, it's just awesome to see you scale that up a little bit more.

Not that you haven't tried before, but I think you've encountered challenges. And I think as well, from just from a teaching standpoint for your business clients, I think that this is gonna be a really important step that you're then going to be able to win right on and teach other people to do because you have down how to start a fitness business and then scale it, but how do you then start to relinquish that amount of scaling to

delegate that out? And I think this will be like the next stage for the business clients that you have got who really, really want to go to the next level. I think you're learning over the next year or two years maybe will be like the pro huge penis, like swollen, swollen version of your program. Yes, we've always had like people who work for us part time in various capacities. I like people who do specific things, but this is our first like full time, full time person. So which comes with apprehension, obviously, and all sorts of things.

But yeah, so that's why I'm doing it. But you spot like, oh, certain things. So like, yesterday, for example, you guys will be happy about this. Like I was, like, focus was dropping, like stress was like background, went to dinner and just immediate, like, no just like feelings of stress and feelings of happiness just went like, so like, you're like, okay, like, as I already knew, as you said Chris, like

spending time with friends is just an immediate, like, hard reset. Like, you come back from that experience feeling like, whatever you worried about before, doesn't exist. So, there's, I think it's the book called, come on what it's called, but you're like, make a happiness buffet. It's like, 10 things you can do, or like things that I know when I do, one of the following 10 things, it almost always boosts my mood,

it almost always makes me feel more positive. And if you become aware of those things, you can like draw on them when you do want to feel bad. Let's go and have a cold shower. Let's go for a 15 minute walk. Let's have a big glass of water. Let's go and play. I was telling you last night about how much joy I'm getting

from playing catch up against the wall with a tennis ball and a Pomodoro breaks. Like it's such a stupid dumb childish thing. But it just brings me like pure happiness for five minutes. 10 points. Yeah. Easy. Which of your failures would you say is resulted

in the most future successes? Bloody hell. I don't know. Why don't we do, why don't we each answer? So, like, Seth, if you want answer one, then Johnny, because there's like, a hundred of questions here. Any failures that have come up that have resulted in the most future successes for any of you guys? Yeah, so I tweeted about this the other day and had some interesting discussions with some people about do you agree with the idea that you should never have regrets? There's always people that say, oh, you should never have it. Now, yes, in principle, that's a nice idea, but there are many decisions that you could take,

which move you in one direction or another purely by chance, and it's not that the decision was necessarily good or bad, it's just happened to turn out for chew itously or badly. Now, if that's the case, then yes, you kind of regret the fact that it turned out that way, but the decision was kind of neither here nor there. With the things that you chose, you actively decided to do and it turned out badly, and you've learned a lesson

from it. As long as you learn the lesson, then I would see that as you're paying tuition to the world. And the quickest way to, or the most direct example of that is in trading. So like Forex trading, for example, where if you make a big loss, as long as you learn from that and learn how to adapt to your strategy, that is your tuition to the market. And so, yes, it might have cost you five grand or 23 grand in my case, but it's a very valuable lesson because you've then been able to be like, okay, there is where I went wrong, and I know that I'm not going to do this again. And it's probably

more effective than if you just read about someone else doing it because you've like physically experienced your ainess being torn apart by the market. So that's what I would say. Well, there's that quote from, I think it's Peter Teal who says, any idiot can learn from experience, I prefer to learn from the experience of others. But the problem with that is that you don't ever have the visceral context you're all... It's a big deal. Yeah. Like looking at someone else's gaping, flappy asshole does not have the same impact. It doesn't have the same impact as it being your asshole. It doesn't have the same impact as it being your asshole. And they will pass.

You can go back in time to one year of your life and share current wisdom, which one and why? 2012 start podcast, Chris. There you go. Now you like one of the biggest podcasters on the planet because first move or advantage. What do you do if you feel like you actually don't know what you want from life? Johnny. Johnny, just hold this grenade a second. What do you do if you don't know what to do?

If you feel like you actually don't know what you want from life direction, unless meaninglessness, purposelessness. I mean, some people approach this as like, you should work out what your values are and then make goals based on your values and all that sort of stuff. The thing that was most helpful for me in terms of like why why I quit my job and why I'm doing what I do now,

is I actually did an exercise from a PDF download from a guy called Nate Green back in 2010, which is called the Heroes Handbook. Nate Green's a really good writer, if anyone wants to go and read more and pop philosophy in just general, very simple ideas of how to improve your life. But anyway, it was just literally, and you probably heard this before, design, think of the best possible day you can imagine from start to finish, where do you wake up?

What's the room like? What are you doing that morning? What are you doing at lunch time? What does the afternoon look like? What are your evening plans? And they expand that in like the best week you can imagine. And then think, right, well, how can I begin to move my life towards that? And from that, you've extract like those goals from that that you can create. And it is pretty cool how, not to say, like, look at me, but it is pretty cool that I'm pretty close to that. Like at the time, I was a mile away from it. You couldn't see, you can't even think, how can I figure that out? Surely I would never be able to build a business and live off it.

Surely I'd never be able to happen on the internet. Bullshit, I wasn't work. All these sorts of things. And then you look back on it a year later and you're like, shit, I'm making progress towards that. So I think that's the thing that, what is he called? Right to wait, but why? Tim, not Tim Urban. Yeah. So he talks about like happiness being crushing a Tuesday on the interview, does with Tim Ferris. So like the idea that people worry about goals and what they want and all that sort of stuff

and forget that like ultimately tomorrow tomorrow you're just going to wake up and it's just going to be a day and you're just going to experience a sequence of those and then cease to exist. So if you just think about like well how can I make my day or my week the best possible or like maximize my experience of existence as possible, probably you'll be quite content and feel like you're moving in my direction. I think to sort of add on to that a lot of the time because there's so much urgent stuff that we do, we don't ever actually sit back to get into planning mode, we're just constantly in dealing with mode and it's that system one, system two, thinking that you need to step

into. And that's what I realized especially with lockdown because I got more time away from having to do the club stuff which allowed me for the first couple of weeks or even actually first few months of lockdown. I went through like tons of Chris Sparks experimentation without limits or whatever it's called. I went through that, I started using things three and completed Tiago Fortes, get stuff done like a boss course did like loads of stuff added in a bunch of habits, but you can't ever do that when you're constantly fighting fires within your own life.

So it's like, I think a lot of people that don't necessarily know what they want from life, haven't ever taken time away from life to ask that question. It's like if all that you're always doing is being busy, saying yes to social events, saying yes to more stuff, project, businesses, things for your boss, nights out, all that sort of, like you're not ever going to, it's not just going to emerge. If you don't have it, if you haven't stumbled upon it

by a chance, it's not just going to emerge, you have to actually do the work, you have to spend the time consciously thinking, what would a good day, week, month, five year, 10 year, 25 year plan look like? What would I actually want to do? And then it's like, where am I trending? Like, am I trending in the right direction or the wrong direction? Like, if I keep doing what I'm doing now for 10 years, where will that leave me?

Is that a good situation or a bad situation? And then adjust, but I feel like you still got something to say. Quiet the mind and the spirit will speak. Like if you're firefighting the whole time, your voice for inner intuition and your existential questions are just muffled because you're dealing with all the crap day to day. So yeah, you have to create some space. Someone told me recently, it might be one of you two that every good idea they've ever had in business has been from going on a walk. Was it one of you two? Maybe not.

We were talking about some ideas in the shower the other day, when we the notebook. Yeah, we've notebook in the shower. Yeah, so writing things down while you met it, like things always come to me while I'm meditating, But like, yeah, walking somewhat someone's always happy to remember who it was. There's like, they go for a walk in the morning and that's when like all of it. And there's something about like being in motion and the thought process that happened when you're moving. But that's just the quiet

that might, so like if you walk without any podcast or anything in suddenly all this shit just occurs to you. I loved, it was a life hack from a while ago, drive without any music or podcast on. Like if you just go on a drive to work, like once a week, if you pick Wednesday as your day where you drive to work without any content playing, find so nice. Like you just get to sit with your thoughts

for a bit of time without the input of other minds, and that's this definition of solitude by Carl Newport, right? Solitude is time on your own, away from the input of other minds, and that's the definition of solitude by Carl Newport, right? Solitude is time on your own away from the input of other minds, not just time on your own, on the phone, listening to a podcast, reading, even that, you know? So yeah, where else we got? Jim's or restaurants, you can only save one from the coronavirus use of? or restaurants, you can only save one from the coronavirus use of. Jim's. Easily. Like, how often do you go to a restaurant compared to like number of hours you spend in a gym? The alternative argument is keep restaurants open, buy a home gym, best

of both worlds. But I'm an anti-social bastard. Like I prefer to be training away from people and in silence. Great. Great. Nick Purvis, a guy that runs CandyPants podcast, which is great and everyone should go and check out, how do you balance the constant desire for self-improvement without being sucked into a perpetual cycle of feeling like whatever you do is never enough to fucking great question that may. So the line between being tough on yourself to continue to motivate you to do more and being easy enough on yourself to know when you've worked hard is a lot wider than you think. I think a lot of people self-flagulate out of some feeling that it's going to motivate them to do

more the next time, whereas that's actually not necessarily the way it works. You need to treat yourself as if you're someone you're responsible for helping. You need to be a friend to yourself. You wouldn't be this way to a friend. There's this song that I'm loving at the moment, which is one of the lyrics says, it's gone, lyrics gone. So I'm not gonna be able to tell you what it is, but I'll put it in the initial. It's the lyric, it's Parasai Eve. This is the moment you've been waiting for.

That's it, I thought I might be what it was. It's, ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba. That's what it is. It's just, it's hard, man. If you want more out of life, it is very, very challenging to not constantly just feel like everything that you do isn't enough. I think having a very strict, quantified metric of your to-do list, hard, stop, and work cycles

helps that a lot, because if you're never any ongoing project is always going to be, you can always do more work, whereas if you set yourself okay, if I have this much work to be done this day and I do it, then you stop working and it gives you a sense of accomplishment, but as everyone that's got an ongoing project knows, like, it's never finished, it's technically never finished, so you have to create these arbitrary, done lines that give you some sort of a feeling

that you've finished it. So, yeah, what else we got? Someone's just written Rogan as a question. Don't know. Well, we discussed that in the last episode, Someone's just written Rogan as a question. Don't know. Well, we discussed that in the last episode, didn't we? The spotted fire Rogan situation. Johnny, any tips for becoming a better writer,

struggling with essay writing for med school? I'm going to pivot that to Yusuf. essay writing for med school. So I assume that's someone who's going to do goes to Cambridge then because that's the oral spiral tag. If it's essay writing to get into med school, then realize that your personal statement will not even be read by the admission staff and everything hinges on the UK cat score, which they don't tell you. And it's a basically an IQ test that they claim

is socioeconomically blind, but it's not because it's very much favors men from, white men from private education background. But look at it, you can reverse engineer the process. Do what I did, I increased my score from 645 to 795. So I increased my IQ supposedly by 1.5 standard deviations, which is not, that's not obviously possible, but it's just the fact that you can just hack the system.

So that was like, you know, essay writing, if you go into med school, it's not a skill that you need, focus on the admission criteria that matter. That's an example of the scoby stream. Well, you know, another example of the scoby stream is, UCIFT connection was a little bit dodgy before. So I've met a message him on iMessage on desktop saying,

can you check your internet connection? And all that he's replied with is 89% 144 megabytes per second. What's 89%? what's the percent? That's the signal strength strength probably. We're actually a good life hack. Wi-Fi signal to menu bar app that tells you your your connections beat in real time. Johnny hacks for when you are craving all the chocolate.

Tuna. Tuna, Tuna. Chocolate tuna isn't tuna. I'm beautiful. No, the answer to this isn't she isn't tuna got the same thing in or the same something mercury. Why is a lot of mercury in chocolate? I hope not. I need to because Anthony Tony Robbins, Johnny, doesn't like it when I say Anthony Robbins, it just're just sounds like easier uncle or something. Uncle, good old Uncle Tony had got mercury poisoning from eating swordfish every day. For some reason he decided to do that and he said he started to get like psychiatric symptoms from it. And when he stopped, he went away.

Jeez. Um, you know, I don't know about tuna and chocolate cravings? I'll have to look at that up. Do 20 push-ups or stop you from feeling hungry? How do you find people interested in talking and debating the topics you cover? Same for you guys. Where do you find your podcast guests from? We just find it. We just ask people that we find, we want to talk to anyway, people that

we're interested in having a chat with and I think it's the same with you Chris, isn't it? Yeah, just on the internet, existing on the internet or reading books or listening to podcasts. I think it's a bigger question, which is why do you want to start a podcast? And then is this about podcast? How do you find people interested in talking and debating the topics you cover? I think it's like, how do you find guests?

So, the way we pick our guests is, who is listening to the podcast, who is most relevant to that person, who might they find interesting? What can we talk to them about? So we've had, on the fitness podcast, from like Kit Lachlan, who's like talking out a very specific aspect of like stretching meditation all the way through to like power lifters. And you know, it's like, what might that wouldn't be interesting? And that's just a framework really.

Who, I don't think I've ever asked you this, who would be a dream guest to get on the propane business podcast from a like insight perspective. Tim Ferriss. Tim Ferriss insight. Not with me. So don't don't be asked about cloud, not bothered about asking them questions. Yes, who would you want to learn from the most on the propane business podcast? Jeff Bezos. Really? Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett. Jeff Bezos. Really?

Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett. Any billionaire, Elon Musk, or Tim Ferriss? You, sir? Yeah, that's a pretty good answer. Tim's a great shout. I think he's having a bit of a bad time at the moment, man. He's back on anti-depressants. He's running a lot of ads.

He's running a lot of paid traffic. Well, you know, wouldn't you? Because you've got, you've got the plug-in that tells you when Tim turns ads on. Yeah, just to light the turns on the run. Something I sent to Yusuf, actually, he's got an ad running at the moment for 17 questions that change my life to download PDF.

It is absolutely brilliant. OK. So if you see an ad from Tim Ferriss on Instagram or whatever, swipe up on it and get that, like when you click on it, there's like five downloads, one of them's like five morning routines to win the day, 17 questions to change my life on about fear setting. Lea, it's just lead magnets. Yeah, just PDFs, yeah. Cool. How would you distinguish fact from fallacy in an area completely unknown to you? Just ruthlessly

use mental models. Handlands razor, Occam's razor, McGill's razor, and if it breaks any of them, fuck it off, that's it. We were talking about this yesterday, which is that whenever you see a news article and it happens to be on a topic that you actually have some specialist knowledge about, and you're like, this is bullshit, like come on, ex daily express or sun or whatever. Like this is complete. And then you're like, oh, maybe all topics are like this for things that I don't know. But so I think that's look at the such a scary inside man. It's like, look at the providence and think like, okay, is this a source that has some, and

if you don't know what metrics to actually measure something against, then it's probably quicker and faster rather than trying to use your own bullshit filter is to pick someone who has the specialist knowledge in that and ask them for some recommended sources of information and use that. But because of how like the information in any area spread, it's almost a certainty that the common, commonly held belief in that area is incorrect. So if you just assume that the common opinion

is incorrect and wrong, and look for the contrairions in the market, and look for the polarity in the market, and then listen to those people and form your own view. It's a lot worse than positive. It's much easier to just go with what everyone says. Yeah. Podcasts, how to logistics software,

mic headphone production already gone through there. Top three guests kind of already gone through that. Who stood you up last week? That was Michael Matzola, the director of Unacknowledged, Dr. Stephen Greer's UFO documentary. So I'll find a new UFO, is any? He is. Yeah, well, he's maybe he's been abducted because he didn't fucking reply. Do you take any protein supplements, Johnny? Not really.

You see, back in the day. I've got some, but I'm not very religious with taking it. I thought you were like missed away. I was. Dr. Way. Yeah, it's a much more convenient way of taking protein in and I just see it as part of diet. I don't really, it's just a continuum

of different food types rather than a supplement per se or a yeah. But I haven't got room based on what I'm eating at the moment. I got 205 grams of protein that's just flat at all times. And I don't have room for a protein shake in that. You eat a lot of yogurt, don't you? Which is basically a protein supplement. The quark vag. I can't pronounce it, which is white No. It's not that. It's spellic Chris. So it's a state of New type of quark, which is white chocolate flavor.

I put it on my Instagram the other day. It's unbelievable. And I put the macros up on it. A pot of it. 17 grams of protein, 4 grams of carbs, 0.5 grams of fat. Fine, told. Mate, can I get it? Do I have to get it from a supermarket?

I like, could I get like a big like job loss on a palace, delivers? It's only got about a month, one thing a bit of expiry, so I'd be. That's fantastic. Yeah, that's a great thing about there, isn't it? You get loads of cheese in your office, and you don't need to worry about it going after. Yeah, that's a great thing about there, isn't it? You get loads of cheese in your guess and you don't eat the worry about it going after Yeah, mint

If you had to tell someone to watch one monomers and podcast what would it be and why Lifehacks 2001 was fucking brilliant start the second season on lifehacks was just I think all the lifehacks episodes are like such an easy Intro into what's going on to nice balance between just sort of quick paste stuff and banter and you can always take something away. And favorite Anjunidip set was the episode 200, I think, by James Grant. That's from Jack Revolano that you've been on his livestream recently.

Everyone needs to listen to Anjunidip if you need some music to work to, their podcast is phenomenal. Mark Dobson, what's next for Modern Wisdom? How far ahead do you plan? Where do you see it in a year's time? So next big thing is this Modern Wisdom Academy which is going to be the Summary Service. I'm just so, so fucking excited for that. I think it's an amazing project and it's going to mean that no one ever forgets what they hear again. How far ahead do I plan? In terms of scheduling about month and a half? So I'm booked out, this is recorded this at the start of July,

I'm booked out until the middle of August. I need to stop publishing three a week. I know that that might make some people sad, but it's like it's unsustainable for a very, very long amount of time. It's just so much work. And where do you see it in a year's time? I don't know, man, we did over half a million plays last month in June. So if the growth keeps on going, then it'll be, I don't care. It's just more of the same. Keep finding

interesting people, keep talking to them, keep having you guys on. Hopefully not have to do this over Skype. Like, oh, do I tell you that I've got my sofa recushed? Have I told you about this? That is exciting. I think you that I've got my sofa recushed. Have I told you about this? That is exciting. I think you mentioned it. So I got a buddy. So if you want this service, it will be linked in the show notes below

because it's fucking amazing. And I cannot believe Elliot Flagg has created this new company where you send off the cushion covers from your couch. And then they use the covers to make them mold then create a special perfectly fitted new cushion for each of the different covers that you've got and then send back however many you need for each. So I got four bases, two backs, two corners, one footstool thing and now I have a brand new set of cushions on myself. I perfectly fitted.

And it looks like a new sofa. It's fucking amazing. It goes from being like a saggy, or like you love yourself, but you don't wanna, you don't, you're like, oh, there may be the cushions, don't fit so good. And it's outrageous, like ridiculous service.

And he turns it around in like a week. Can't believe it. That's phenomenal. There we go, are you got any good questions on your guys aside any cool stuff? What side hustles do you each have? God use if I want to know this fucking hell how long have you got He's still doing the battery thing. yeah. Still arbitrage batteries, yeah. Hold on. So, hold on. Are you really?

No, no. Right. It saves everything that you have to check. Well, because when he told us about this, I remember Chris's reaction was like, so that's what he was doing last weekend. He wasn't really busy with skill friendly. He was like down in the factory in Slau

and making sure the supply chain was still working. It wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, so no, I, my only side hustles is I'm trying to get a rental property. Currently, I have a side hustle as a doctor and we do. And we do propane, propane business, propane fitness and propane fitness. The fitness. Plus you trade. Trading. Trading.

Trading, of course. I mean, I see trading as a capital growth strategy rather than then come strategy, but you're right, it should be included in the no one's going to be like, oh, well, you're a side hustle should technically be it. Yeah, like, let's include that. Johnny, I think you should just have one main thing. Pauline? Yeah, and hope for the best. Like, having a side hustle just suggests that the main hustle is insufficient, which is the, that's the problem. So focus on the primary hustle,

being everything you need to be. Would you not agree that multiple revenue streams is a safer way to put in the... You can diversify revenue streams within the hustle. You don't need to diversify revenue streams within on a macro, so necessarily. Didn't you do a very expensive, very long trading course. I did. Yes. I've not used it there. It's nice to know that. It's nice to know what you thought you didn't know. And now you know. And finally, you have the likes that Lex needs to be here. Well, he depends what you cast as well as a hustle, like a form of work of time for money or what is a investment strategy. And most of them can be pretty passive, especially property when you can hustle like a form of work of time for money or what is a investment strategy and you know most

of them can be pretty passive especially property when you can just get everything managed and leave it to the experts. I had to pay a significant amount of money this morning to Newcastle City Council for that selective licensing thing that I warned you about. I got an email as we arrived at dinner last night literally as I got out the cart to say hi to Ben and got an email that said, by mid-day tomorrow you need to pay us 2,000 pounds so that we can process your license. Like don't email that on a fucking Friday night Don't tell me that you need to give me 2,000 pounds within like 15 hours or else a bad thing's gonna happen It's just a shit way to start the weekend.

Terrible way to start the weekend. The frugal heart concept, what's some little things that make you stupidly happy? That's a throwback to the chialetion roader episode from the other day. Throwing a tennis ball against the wall, frisbee and boomerang are both like. Throwing anything, little children, dogs. I think you just got to be something you can also easily catch. Make a steel, mace. You should have started doing like weighted club training.

Yeah, I saw. It's all over our Instagram. Yeah, it's just good taking it. It's really seriously. Like, shoulder mobility, like lower body hypertrophy. It's great. Johnny, here's one for you. What are your experiences with PD's slash Sam's, if any? Nada. Can be tested federation's bro. You subshare the further the other day of a guy who got

really cross with us. So we we for a long time shared this article, which was how we got lean while eating Haribo cheesecake and bringles. And it just upset every personal trainer who was like the only way you can do this is by like lying or being on loads of drugs or, and then this guy that got really aggressive and accused us of,

accused like Yusef who's in a lot of the photos, who's like 74 kilos in the photos of his being full of drugs. It's like, we are both, at the time, we're both like sub 90 kilos. It's the 200 pound rule, I think Mark Bell has a 200 pound rule that like anyone, anyone abs lean over 200 pounds is under drugs. No drugs. Yeah.

And he's like, he just stands out and goes, find me an exception in that rule. And it's pretty hard. Fair enough. How long have you been sober now, 22 months, which is a lot longer than I'd planned, it was only going to be 18. Not a question, some of the cross the podcast in lockdown, great work. Thank you, Marty Kimbo. How you met Johnny and you, you, Seth,

why oh you, Seth, from Sam, through my housemate then, who was your guys' old business partner, Ben Tormay. And that was it. So you crack each other's backs in my, love it, let's sit. And thought, fucking, gonna be mates with them. On a bit of that. back in my, love it for sight and thought, fucking gonna be mates with them. One of the other.

One favorite podcast each from you guys that isn't mine or yours. Tim Ferris is just pretty good to be honest. Because I have new tools of Titan's thing that he's doing. I'm halfway through one of them. Very good as well. I think it's just the audiobook of the... But he's put it onto podcastes now hasn't it? So clever, he manages to really squeeze the lemon out of all of his books and just like... Well I feel like he made a podcast and then he's made

two books from the podcast and now he's doing a podcast of the books that's from the podcast. So impressive. And then there's like YouTube content based on the books from the podcast. podcast. So impressive. And then there's like YouTube content based on the books from the podcast. Like that man. Um, what I'm having to look at my podcast subscription. Yeah, for me to be honest. I feel like it's a boring answer for me to give. So let's see. I listened to a lot of like very like specific business things. It probably wouldn't be interesting. So there's a guy called Dan Sullivan who runs a business called Strategic Coach that big business things that probably wouldn't be entrusted to anyone. So there's a guy called Dan Sullivan who runs a business called Strategic Coach that he's got really good podcast. Each episode's like like thought processes for business owners. Digital market to podcast pretty good for anyone who likes digital marketing.

London real podcasts really. I'm joking, I'm joking. Although that is on my list. The Woop podcast pretty good actually as well. Is it? Yeah. Well, I'm Ed's got good reach. The CEO's got like, fucking good access to people. Yeah, say if anything from you. fucking good access to people. Yeah, say if anything from you. So actually, from looking at my podcast subscriptions, it seems like I'm more listened to specific episodes from a variety of things rather than a single source. Yeah, it's interesting.

More interesting. Yeah, I don't think that's very rare in the podcasting world. I think most people put their faith into a host or a show and then just allow that because you can't really listen to unless you're doing it your way in specific, sneaking out, yeah, exactly. Like fishing line goes out and then you find the thing

and whatever. Like it's too effortful to go and I'm gonna have that guys on this podcast, he'll be interesting and they'll be interesting. I think I'm very lucky that I've got friends that are really into various podcasts. And they kind of curate and send me single episodes. And so, let's just go to the, um, let's, can we pull back from the brink from Sam Harris? No. Oh, mate. It's the most sense, the most sense, the most sense,

thinking that you're ever going to see around what's happened this year. Like, can we pull back from the brain? Yeah, fucking phenomenal. Do you have a list of all the books you have read so far? Yes, at Amazon.com, sorry, Amazon.co.dk slash shop slash modern wisdom. Go and see everything. Being alcohol three, seven months equals friends involving me less because I don't drink. Fuck these friends off or show them I don't need alcohol to enjoy myself. It's tough when you have no close friends that are on a similar wavelength. Fucking good question man, meaningful question. Does this call up from James Cleary? Where he says, shared values and expectations dictate behaviors

within the tribe, often changing your behaviors requires you to change your tribe. And that's just if your friends are any friends with you, when you're getting yourself pissed and destroying yourself along with them, then you need better friends, like they're supposed to be supportive of you, no matter what you're doing. And if the only time that they're prepared for you to be a part of it,

is if you're drinking the same stuff that they're drinking, they're not really that good mates. But the denominator between you there is the fact that you drink the same drink. I'm fucking hell. Like, that's like you saying that you go for a drink, like, go on a day out with your dog because that also drinks water. Like, that's, there's not a very high bar to set. When did you actually start reading so much and get interested in personal development? Has it always been that way for you, Yusuf? Have you always sort of been an introspective sort of, because for me it wasn't maybe until my late 20s, maybe 26 or 27? Yeah, there was no dramatic moment for me where I was like,

I need to kind of question things, but it's been like a slow burner and it's it's accelerated over the last 15 years. I do know many people that have just been like flat and then suddenly just knew on balls in on it, which is really interesting. And I'm so fascinated by what is that precipitating moment that causes someone to just go like, all right, I've been a waste man for the last 10 years, right? I'm gonna completely change direction. I think it was fitness for me, I think. I think it was being overweight as a kid and then you're like, right,

I need to get a handle on this. And then before we know it, you're sort of like reading things or like, I can remember listening to podcasts when like the way you would listen to a podcast on your phone in in some instances, was to go on to the web hosted file and play it on the native player on the webpage. On the webpage and really jerky and the audio was terrible.

There was something called the Fitcast where this guy had a guy called Kevin Kerman's name, but the Fitcast was one of the first podcasts in the fitness industry, he had loads of people on there, and through that podcast, I was introduced to loads of different people, and then you hear about these things, like you hear about Tim Ferriss, and then he introduces loads of people, and you suddenly become aware of all these things. I think that's certainly how it started for me,

and probably how it's still going for me. I don't access someone's world, and then they introduce you to five new people, who introduce you to five new people. I don't know many people that tumble down the rabbit hole of new creators as effectively as you do. Like you just, what do you mean? Just so Johnny, you'll stumble on someone. I don't know whether it's because you do tend to kind of listen to people

like Tim who inevitably have quite a dispersed guest in flux, but then you do sometimes like fucking, I know some of them is not like underground, but like you've gone very, very in to him. I see. But the people who Johnny follows as well, like Nick Cosmets and Samovans and all that, they're all, they're a very, like, they don't have mass appeal for people outside of that niche at all. Well, that's just the thing that I always talk about,

which is like, I'm always looking for, what is the bottleneck and how do I fix it? Who can I follow or listen to? Who has the answer to that bottleneckck so that you end up like listening to Some really weird shit My sleep quality is atrocious any tips on improving this area in general please from Benny Had's use of what's your top line sleep tips? Top line sleep tip. So Chris is a big proponent of sleeping with your phone outside your room. I think most people can't rely on the motivational willpower

immediately on waking to kind of start not playing with their phone immediately and tanking the first half hour of the day. And I think how you treat your morning and how you treat your evening are really important. Stop caffeine. I have definitely seen both ends of the caffeine spectrum. When I was working in finance, I was 800 milligrams a day, which is equivalent to kind of 10 cups of coffee, eventually just from caffeine pills. And I was just propping myself up. I was like, you know, that dali painting where there's

like, there's a cloth, like a wet cloth that's all got holes in, it's just held up by sticks and it's just like that. Like, that was me just with caffeine. Then I went cold turkey for a few years. On reintroducingcing caffeine Started falling asleep during the day which I'd never had done previously and I think this is just because caffeine has such a long half-life 10 hours or more for it to just be half the level in your system that it will absolutely affect your sleep quality And you always get these hard bastards that are oh no, don't affect me like I can sleep like it you like Okay, you might not feel like it does, but guarantee if you quantify it, it just will. So get rid of caffeine, you won't need it when you go long-term.

Johnny has a great protocol for how to do that, like without in the most painless way, by progressively introducing more D-Calf. Is that propn fitness.com slash caffeine? It is. Oh! That's so fucking super fun here. Is that propin fitness.com slash caffeine? It is. Oh, oh,

fucking super fun here. They know it. And then also have a bedtime routine. So the big problem for for workaholics like us is that you have open loops and you don't set clear boundaries as like 11 p.m. You're like, I'll just quickly check my email, just check in. There's no like urgent stuff at any and then you're like drawn in or you open stuff that you're like,

well, I need to get that done tomorrow, whatever 6pm or 7pm. But whenever you finish your work day, dump everything into your capture process and have a plan tomorrow to day habit, then shut down your computer. If you want to be a real monster, you can use cold turkey or frozen turkey, which Johnny uses to just not allow you back on your laptop until the morning and put your phone in a box Then just use that evening time to spend time with friends and family and fully get into your body go for a walk like have a

context switch and Basically nail the evening nail the morning. You're sleep better. I love that. That's really, really good. Can we get a life fails 201? We absolutely can. We've only done one life fails episode, which is just all of this, like, things that we've tried where we fucked up. Let's see, life, life hacks is like the evolution of things that we think are good, but that far less entertaining than when you tried the liquid-only protein-shake diet or whatever it might be, you know, like the million other, you go into the bathroom again, you sir. I am. Okay, can you please view the microphone? I'm having bladder time. Yeah, I'll mute. Thank you. It's weird, isn't it? How you and I always manage to go with the duration of

podcasts without needing to go to the toilet and you never manage it. Arabic Brothers, man. I have a day off tomorrow. Where do I start with your content if I am just finding you? I think how to survive university is a great episode. The Life Hacks 2 or 1 is an amazing episode. Or if you want something a little bit deeper, the Aubrey Marcus number 117 is a fucking bang. Any tips on hunger cravings hitting my macros but still feeling hungry and want more,

Johnny. Fizzy water. Fizzy water. If you're doing, I think when people do, if it fits your macros, they start, they take the mix too much, they take them to make too much. They lose structure. They lose consistent meal times. They lose food volume. They lose micronutrition fiber. The danger with macros is people have had a meal plan and then they think, right, I don't need a meal plan, I'm just going to do macros now.

That loses all the structure, which loses all of the ingrained hunger patterns and hunger cues. So I would suggest, look at what your macros are. Build out a day of eating. In my fitness pile, I'll have a plan for that. Try and fit in, like, fruit and vegetables, try and fit in fibrous foods, single ingredient, unprocessed foods, have some variety and things you like.

But try and stick to that as much as you can and try and eat at the same time as much as you can, and then have like fizzy water and stay busy, because often when people have this problem, it's because they're trying to fit like protein pancakes and protein syrup and quest bars and like sugary foods in, and then realizing actually eating those things doesn't do much to my hunger, it makes things, I'm focused on food all the time and I'm more hungry. That's great, man. Just buying every three days, buying a big bag of baby spinach and ripping it up and throwing

it into every meal is like the easiest. Yeah, just add some fucking volume in there. As to have frozen carrot and sweet mash, 500 grams of carrot and sweet mash, and it does no calories in it. 500 grams of food, and it's about 200 cows, half a kilo volume of food. And it goes with, it goes with, it's not, it's not updated, carrot and sweet. But yeah, unbelievable. If you had to recommend one book for someone to read, what would it be and why? can all answer this one Johnny? What you're looking Give me on anything Tomic habits from the fuck

We took was that yours? Yeah, it's just so fucking good man. Mm-hmm. We were talking about this on the we're in the other day about like what books would we recommend and talk about reading and the answers I gave are like books that are operating systems so like Atomic habits if you like you can apply what's in atomic habits if all you did was apply what's in atomic habits It's like a master level upgrade to everything so like suddenly everything else you try to do in your life is easier or better or more consistent. And then the same for things like the deep workbook or digital minimalism or getting things done, like stuff like that is like an entire operating manual for a certain thing. System wide.

Yeah. Versus a lot of books are like a single concept that like help one thing, but don't necessarily help everything. So I look for like system level upgrades. So atomic habits would be the base of that pyramid. That's a really good one. One book for someone to read, I think the forgotten Highlander by Alistair O'Kart, if no one's like, it's an easy book,

it's a story book basically, like real life, but story book, and it just totally reframes anyone's suffering. If you think that you're having a bad time, read The Forgotten Highlander by Alistair O'Kart, and you'll realize that you, there are people out there that have suffered more than you can possibly believe. This guy was captured by the Japanese and basically had a dysentery for five years and built the bridge over the river Kwaai and got locked in tin boxes and then locked on death ships

and then got knocked off his feet by the afterblast from Nagasaki and then kept quiet about it because the army told him to for like 50 years and then wrote this as his memoir as a cult of arms for what the Japanese government had done. Like just read that book and it'll feel chatt I think I'm gonna guess because you still muted that he's still winged.

Is he back? He's back? I'm here. You've done that thing again where you've put Kermit the frog behind you, haven't you? Is he behind me again? Every, whenever I'm recording, he just, yeah, I think he must live in the bathroom.

He must have. Oh, God, right. You've done it. Let's get rid of him. You've done it again. This is another episode. This is two episodes in a row. You want to make it into the trailer?

What are you... Oh, for fuck's sake. No, annoyingly. There was a really good picture of Kermit bent over spreading his pocket. But it's out the ratios all off. Oh, I'm glad that from a quality perspective, it wasn't going to be used for the background. That was the reason. Yeah, I know.

Excellent. Yeah. What's your favorite part of being a podcast host, Giggle's 81? It's like, it's so unfair that we all get to speak to the people that we do. Like if you asked all the different guests that you've had on one of wisdom and on pro pain fitness, pro pain business over the years to spend an hour doing a one to one coaching call way, you're allowed to ask them whatever you want. We would be millions of pounds in debt.

But to get James Clears time for an hour or obrimarchus, or I know for a fact, obrimarchus is a couple of grand an hour to get him to do a coaching call, like, or Ben Greenfield's, like literally one of the most expensive well-known coaches on the planet, like to get these people's time,

and you just get to ask them whatever you want. But, oh, Ben, my knee, so my knee hurts a little bit, on the kind of on the outside. Like, have you got any, would you rub CBD on it? Like, you know, you can just ask them whatever you want. So I think that like it is very selfishly. It's just a personal development. That's why we started the podcast. Like seriously, that was the reason we started the ProPrim fitness point. We wanted to interview John Keifer who just released a card back loading.

And we got a lot of questions about woman sensitive lipe is in fatty acid synthase for him. And we just called him up at what like three in the morning for him or whatever. And we're just like, John, um, he was like, okay, we can talk about that. Masks, how do you feel about reverting to night club Chris when required? That's going to be interesting. I don't know what's happening with club nights at the moment. Like, it's just, we were in, let's say we went out for dinner last night. I'm pretty certain. I don't know how legal what we did last night was. Is it that they can justify that it's because it's test run or it's a practice run and private events?

Maybe, yeah. And how the really complete explanation for us. I think he made it up, but it was like, yeah, that sounds right, man. So, was that the explanation? It was like, I don't know how much I can say. Can I talk about it as much as I want? Yeah, but just don't say the name of the place in case we get it. Okay, sure. Like, no money changed hands in this situation.

It was all like socially distance and there was very few people there and it was, yeah, it was testing the systems. Because obviously, if they were shot and then just today opened to the public and hadn't tested any of those processes would be a nightmare. You're more likely to get into trouble if you don't test it. Food hygiene and the levels.

Yeah, like think about that. I mean, so speaking of which, I went for a burger, somewhere in Yom, and on the way out as I was paying, I saw they had a food hygiene rating of zero, which I've never seen before. Did the Lama Scarea next to Top Top Palace had that. Amazing.

What do you have to do to get zero? Read the burger. It was after I'd eaten. It was quite a nice burger, actually. But do you have any symptoms? No. Got away, it's got free. We've got some great questions that I've totally missed at the bottom here.

Funniest gym story from Tien then. I've got a bad one, but I don't know if it's even podcast appropriate. Fine. Well, I mean, that means it's definitely podcast appropriate. Hit us. So, I, for some reason, was wearing swimming shorts to go to the gym and they don't have a fly that's just like a flap, so there's no zip. And I was going to Mando and there was only when I got back into the changing room having finished my lesson that I realized I'd like just...

The old chap had popped out. Yeah. What, awful. What, just, just... The old chap. popped out. Yeah. What awful. What just just. The old chap and just. Valent. Yeah. And it was looking quite quite colorful shorts.

So I'm hoping that the contrast won't have been too obvious. That's fucking. But like, it's probably riding the line of being put on a list. Yeah, they stored an register. I think most people would assume you'd be able to feel that. But I'm getting it. That's why it's not podcast appropriate. Right. Johnny, have you got any funny stories? So it's not, it didn't happen in GM, it's also very similar to use of story and it's about you stuff, but I witnessed it. So it was the first competition we'd ever been to. It was a weightlifting competition.

And you supposed to wear a singlet and turn up in a singlet and be like, you know, it's weightlifting is quite serious. There's quite a lot of rules and Yusef got on the platform to let to do his first snatch or clean jerk in like tracksuit bottoms and lethias and he was about a lift and the judge was like whoa whoa whoa he calls me sonner you don't want to rest like that like you need shorts we need to see that you're not like wearing anything supporting underneath so Yuse have just took his trousers off. And you just have boxes on. I think the phone boxes, the voter phone,

promotional boxes, bright fluorescent pink. And then the judge, she says something like, are you mocking me or something? And I was like, well, no, what do you want me to do? You said take off my trousers, so I have.

And then one of the coaches ran over to this 10-year-old boy and just shouted, I'm tick off your trousers, tick off your trousers. And whipped his trousers off and gave me his little shorts or something. And then there was a lot left, a single red light from that judge who was already nift, obviously, but made the snatch. I feel like there'll be that many fails or that much. It seems that they'd be such a high percentage of fails in CrossFit because you've got so many moving parts. Such chaotic, funny, the raw like theory.

You think it's like clipping raw on your chin? Yeah, like you've seen people that open their heads up on barbells or when if you have a rig that's got on barbells or when if you have a rig that's got staggered height bars, so you can imagine you've got one bar, another bar above it, and then a third bar that's in the middle of those two heights and sent out this way. If you jump onto the bottom one and face outward, if you try and do a keeping pull-up, you actually end up, no, no, you go front of head into the medium, medium heighted bar, which is brutal, like people doing workouts where they've run out of chalk, but they're still working through stuff. And if you're doing a kipping pull-up and you lose at the top of the kip, if you lose your grip,

you're just like a cat, you know, like perfectly horizontal, four feet, 10 feet off the ground. And you're going to try and do the, you're going to try and do like the horizontal, four feet, 10 feet off the ground. And you're gonna try and do the, you're gonna try and do like the twist, which is obviously quite challenging. I've just remembered one. I can't believe, and there's a video of this. And it's one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. And it's the guy trying to spot Ysuf on a bench press.

Oh, of course. You must have seen this, Chris. Ysuf's doing like a wrap-out set and he's going like, how do you spot me, Chris mate? And then on every rep, this guy holds onto the bar. And he's just going like, he's going like, no, no, no. Is that, leave it? Hey, right, leave it!

He's like shouting at this guy. On every rep. On every, like, it's at the point, I can't believe you not seeing this. I've never seen it. It's hilarious. And then guy. On every rep. On every, like, it's at the point, I can't believe you've not seen this. I've never seen it. It's hilarious. And then he stands up and goes, cheers mate, and walks off.

I think I'm never going to ask this guy again. So happy you're like, oh, and the guy tries to re-wack bar, shouting, progressively louder after him, leave it. We have had a few of these. So there's one that, there's two that's Johnny's hard. One is in David Lloyd, a man runs up to try and save Johnny,

even though he was struggling a bit with the rep. It wasn't like imminent danger. Guy runs over and he's got like a meter of wet tissue like coming out of his shirt and it just like comes on Johnny's face. Guy basically teabags him. And it's like that's more unsafe than if you just let him do what he's doing.

I packed the bar and sat up and the guy had like done nothing, but on my face still with his sweaty tissue. Again, this is on video. And the other one, also in a David Lloyd, was Johnny doing a front squat with 140 back in the day. And this guy comes over in a very thick South African accent because you're not playing. You want to go, I'm sorry, I say you're not playing, how much is that? And Johnny's like 140, like Bands. Yeah, okay, Bands.

There's also another one in a David Lloyd where I had just missed a 230 kilo squat. So like, and that's like missing after giving it a really good try. So it's like it's a very intense, like very peak experience. You've dumped it forward, big bang, stand up, and this guy goes, totally what myth? Never trust a garage. Oh, I would never trust a word, never trust a garage, and then he just tells me for five minutes this story about how he had a bad experience with the garage.

And like his mate is made to mechanic and his brother owns a garage. And I was just like, fucking hell, I'm just coming, I almost lost consciousness. Stan, let's just go off the phone with the garage and just wants to just vent to someone, you see. And I was near him. See what I mean?

If the sort of thing we should keep a list of. Really a labyrinator on the end. But you need to link to the video of you. Just send it to me. Dean. It was unlisted for ages and I made them listed. Okay, so Dean, it'll be on there. If you want to go and see that just watch it on YouTube 130

Oh, you see've found the video link and put it immediately Alfred what's the what do you search for an Alfred leave it? Leave it leave it I'm so excited to watch it Chris. I'm really really excited Best app for tracking compound lifts. Gravitas. You said it's going to say heavy set and he really believes he's right but he's wrong. Dependence. Yeah, it depends on you. So for Johnny, if you're following a periodized program Gravitas, if you're just aiming for total volume, heavy. Gravitas does an RPE based tracking as well which is quite unique.

That's clever. So like you track the RPE. You can't be free. There's a free version. I mean it gives you loads of analytics so like you say I did 100 kilos for 5 and a 9. It calculates your estimated one-row max then tracks your estimated one-row max over time. I'm going to download gravitas. 5 and a 9, it calculates your estimated one-run max, then tracks your estimated one-run max over time. I'm going to download Gravitis. You've opened the loop.

Sure I have in the past, but I'm really, really open the loop. Is that just to tell me I'm wrong? And that heavy sets better? No, I'm an open-minded guy, you know. I'll try it. You're a fly. Yeah. Big, big like, oh, what do you want?

I'm flying. What? What's the whole thing? Alex talking about a bumblebee in his room. What's the problem? Someone's trying to break in. And he scared them off by going, what do you want? I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm just wondering if I'm here. Favorite slash most used hack ever. And first thing you're all doing straight after lockdown. First thing I'm going to do is pick up a barbell

because I'm fucking sick of dumbbells. I've only got dumbbells in the house and I'm so, so sick of them. I really just want to do a standing straight press or a bench press. Like they're just such nice movements. It's interesting that that's the thing you've got a craving for, like an overhead press. It's desperate.

I really, really just want to do an overhead press. To do an overhead press. I think doing a standing straight press, just an embracing of like the simple pleasures in life. It's just so nice and simple. You can't mess it up. You're over a head press. You're over a head press. You're over a head. What are you doing first thing you're all doing straight after lockdown?

First thing you're doing after lockdown, Johnny? I don't know. I would have said like, go for dinner. We did. We've done it now. So, I'll go back to lockdown. Maybe we did it. Yeah, fuck it. We can go back in for another six months. Seth, anything, or it was it. Dinner was actually probably like super, super high on my, and last night was,

last night was like four hours, the last, the final people in there as the cleaners were coming in around us. So I think I've really missed just being able to spend time with lots of people. I mean, I hosted the barbecue yesterday, so that was a... You had a very, very social, your social quota for July is finished already, isn't it? Just used up, yeah, done. Favorite slash most used hack ever, Thorn Outside of the Bedroom for me,

like it's the biggest change in life quality, immediately, I think. Maybe speed up trackpad as well for digital stuff. Yeah, that's a good one. Like put your trackpad speed at 100% and just watch your life change. Have we talked about the fact that there's a patch you can get that allows you to take it up a new spectrum? Better touch tool, isn't it?

Maybe better touch tool, that there's a yeah. There's like, it's not done by percentages either, isn't it? It's just like some arbitrary descriptor. Very, very, very fast. Like, are you sure this has permanent consequences? It's like, if you put it too fast, you actually can't then disable it because every time you try and get the button to do

the permanent consequences. It's hard. What's the, you wouldn't be able to move your fingers a smaller distance? You've made the track pad not need to be this big anymore, but it's just that big because that's all it's really doing isn't it? frightening Right favorite slash most used hack ever Johnny. I don't know Leave me alone. Give me a lot Alfred. Nice. It's probably something like that. Yeah, it's something like that.

The best ones are always, as you said, great. So the ones you forget that you do. Because you're not making your own fizzy water. fizzy water, that's to be honest, that's being a big upgrade. What's your most listened back to episode? Have you ever listened back to much of the modern wisdom stuff that we've done. Yeah, it's always the ones that have funny moments and I can remember. So like the Business 101, I think one of the...

The highest series of stuff. I think the Business 101 is one of the funniest episodes we've done because all of the little itty bitty stories come out like the batteries. It's when we do a podcast and you said something that we didn't know about yourself and it's something really, so like the moment will come back thing brilliant. I didn't know you did that. You have a problem with it. Too faceted. You probably think about like one to four times and have the idea. So that one, yeah, sometimes, but it's a bit weird, isn't it? Listening back to yourself, like it's a bit, it's a bit strange.

So someone linked to me the other day to a Tim Ferris article where he talks about, he listened back to every podcast that he did and wrote down all of the vocal texts and superfluous language that he used. And that's something I do a bit. I have to, because there's no one quality control checking the audio on my end. So I have to kind of at least listen in part to every episode, just to make sure that I haven't forgotten something, that there was a connection dropout or something happened or whatever. So I listen back a fair bit, but being more deliberate with that would probably be better for making me a more efficient

podcaster. Coming toward the end of my questions, now greatest quote that you've applied to your life in a positive way from J Gibson, everybody wants to be a body builder, but nobody wants to lift no heavy. So much depth and that quote. It's incredible. Yeah. Ron, he's like, run Coleman.

Yeah. I've got a common. Have you listen to him on Joe Rogan. No, he just went on Rogan either way. Oh, really. He's a, I mean, he's ahead of his time. Anyone who can, you can approach 700 pounds on a barbell and not take it seriously. He's in a yellow banana suit as well. Hero, I think people just don't appreciate the state of mind that someone has to be in to not take that seriously. To get under 700 solid ass pounds. While Shackwav screaming shouting, had a death pound. And like, he's just fantastic.

What a hero that man is. I'm doing too. I'm doing too. I do do. Any more questions that you guys have got on your side that you think are good ones that we could finish on? We've got quite a lot so I think we might need to do a separate one because otherwise this podcast will go more than two hours. Seven, 75 hours. How did you come up with affirmations? Find them so cheesy. hard to make them meaningful. Oh, on the six minute diary, yeah, that's a, so I'm actually doing the, um,

love yourself like your life depends on it process from Camille Ravecant at the moment. I've done that this year. So every day I've come up with a reason why I'm happy with myself, proud of myself, that is opposed to it being a positive affirmation about something, you're still having a nightmare with that fly. I'm the user. Thank you, you're just doing a quick internal rotation test.

Extender rotation test. Yeah, it's fine. I can still have thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, drawings, you're checking. But it is challenging. I know like right in doing daily gratitude can you end up sort of falling into thought loops. But I suppose that's part

of the reason it's to get yourself out of that. It's to work out whether or not you actually do have multiple areas, multiple things that you can sort of use. Is this the gratitude section or is this the affirmation line? So the affirmation line I think, but just the whole thing. I just do, I think like, I can remember who I read this from. You're like a self-ordid, like try and pick out your weaknesses or like things you want to improve about yourself and then just your affirmation is just the opposite of the thing that you, like you just consistently tell yourself that you are like organized or whatever and just try

try that and watch that thing. What's mental is, if you consistently do that, the thing that you are trying to influence does actually change and that's the thing that you are trying to influence does actually change. And that's the thing that I can't get my head around. Like I think affirmations are like watery and don't do anything, but if you consistently do one, that's the same thing. And target one thing, I guarantee you it improves it. That's, there's two approaches in the six minute diary, isn't there? There's one of them that's like the spread effect on you, that it's like the chisel effect or something like that. And that's the chisel effect you're talking about.

You just keep hammering away on the same one. The same thing. Yeah. Look, we are, we're nearly two hours in. Thank you to everyone that submitted questions. Sorry if we didn't get to yours. Well, might do it on the Patreon. Might try and finish it up on the Patreon

and throw some other stuff up there. Jens, 200 episodes, man. 200. We made it. Fucking hell. 200 whole episodes. What a journey. Not mental.

We look, thank you, everyone that supports the show. I'd love you to do bits. Thank you for all tuning in. 300 episodes will come in absolutely no time if you've got any suggestions for stuff that you want to hear. Series that you want us to do, I know that people want us to restart the relationships one, more business principles,

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Oh, do they? Yeah, that's the original nitro is a bit. When my usef is got out to the nearest puddle and scooped up some puddle water, are you drinking that? You said, look at it, a coffee to it. You still haven't finished it, Jesus Christ. Wow. Look, thank you, everyone, for tuning in. propanefitness.com slash modern wisdom. If you are an online coach who's looking to pivot your business. And if you're a coach who's looking to pivot to online

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