Modern Wisdom - #259 - Rob Lipsett - The Most Positive Man On Earth

Episode Date: December 17, 2020

Rob Lipsett is a YouTuber and Fitness Model. While I was in Dubai I managed to get hold of the loudest, friendliest and most positive Irish man in history. Expect to learn Rob's advice for anyone trying to start a YouTube channel, why he can't wait for our robot overlords, what he's learned from a decade of bodybuilding, how he deals with haters and much more... Sponsors: Get 20% discount on Reebok’s entire range including the amazing Nano X at https://geni.us/modernwisdom (use code MW20) Get 50% discount on your FitBook Membership at https://fitbook.co.uk/showcase-your-work/ (use code MODERNWISDOM) Extra Stuff: Check out Fuel Cakes - https://fuelcakes.com/ Subscribe to Rob on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/RobLipsett  Get my free Ultimate Life Hacks List to 10x your daily productivity → https://chriswillx.com/lifehacks/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello my friends. Welcome back. I guess today is Rob Lipsett. Irish, YouTuber and fitness model while I was out in Dubai. I managed to get a hold of him and strap him to a chair. He is without a doubt the loudest, friendliest and most positive human I think I've ever met. It makes for a fascinating episode. We go everywhere. From his advice for anyone trying to start a YouTube channel to why he can't wait for our robot overlords and whether or not he thinks we're living in a simulation. What he's learned from a decade of bodybuilding, how he deals with haters and much more. It's so funny to sit down with someone who appears to turn on a outgoing personality for their YouTube videos and you realize that they actually have to tone it down because they are far more hyperactive than they let on.

Yeah, it's a really wonderful insight, and Rob's a great dude. Good luck as well with your fuel cakes business, but if you want to get some sick protein pancakes, check out the end of the episode to find out all about them. But for now, it's time for the positive and wonderful Rob Lipset. Why didn't I get iced? God damn it! Mate, what can I say? If you get the special service in here, this is what goes on. Say goodbye, cast, I'll get to my... Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. I'm joined by the one and only, Rob Lipset. How are you brother?

What's going on? I'm great. I'm happy to be here. Beautiful views. Rendered by sun shining. Life is good. Just drop the Mercedes off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice two-day rental 2020's been mad man, how's this year been for you? You know what? I'm very into perspective and gratitude and compared to you know What some people have been through this year for some time? That's great. I'm like having a last-minute job job and I've still been able to remain a little bit in normality. So it's been great in terms of the context of things, yeah. For sure. What about stuff that you wish you'd been

able to change looking back on 2020? Any areas that you thought were weaknesses? For sure. So a really annoying thing was I did this like big series like I got fired up because of F-S-5 and I meet competing again. Yes. You have gone back to Man's physique stage and I was like nothing will stop me. I got this and then Karam and I was like and you're gone. So it was kind of funny that like I got a day 30 and a 90 day prep and 90 series and it was going to read you out And I was literally like my favorite my favorite motto is I'll eat a fun way of making one like another is no excuse And I was like perfect grown and that's an excuse So lucky you in some things right side of my control

And but that's it. But no, I'm happy with the way things went and I wouldn't really change much. Yeah. So one of the things I'm fascinated with about yourself is that you seem to be quite an effective serial monogamous. So you've been in and out of a bunch of relationships that people who are fans of your channel will have noticed. Yeah.

And you're able to balance those seemingly with traveling, with doing the YouTube thing, like every girlfriend becomes like a second videographer. Oh my God, so true. I've got first days, it's like, right, so how do you want final composing? I was like, Coder writing skills, yeah.

And what about you, do you know how to work in music, bet? No copyright music. Do you know what I'm talking about? So, talk to me about that because like people who just live normal lives, struggle to keep a relationship together. Yeah. What's your principles for having a good relationship? Yeah, so I was in, I've won, my first started YouTube, I was in a six-year relationship at the time, so I was like 18. We started going out and then I started YouTube I was 22 so you know, we don't show for so many years. She was just like cool with it. She was really encouraging and Then you know, obviously in part ways we're all good now and then I was single for a bit, okay?

And I mean my talk by this we're saying how it can be difficult to Handle dating life, you know, being single like you know, dating a few different people or maybe you know, just seeing someone once and YouTube, especially if you go out and say you're gonna weaken away with a man like you're in a cool place, you want to record it. You don't know this person well enough. Be like, can you get a clip from me? Or it's like, you know what a blogger is like, I got my 10 other chicks on the

go. They probably watch this channel. So, being single on YouTube, especially if you're playing the field, is quite difficult. So having a partner that understands what you do is super helpful. And so, Linda, the girl, when I've been with her two years, she is so good with it. Like, I'm like, fair play for putting up with me. So she's great, but yeah, you certainly gotta train them in. And I think being single with YouTube is actually more difficult in the sense.

Cause again, the dating stuff and also what I notice when I was on my single stand is that dating takes up a lot of time. Yeah, DM dating takes up a lot of time. You know, DM it takes up a lot of time. Swiping it right. Yeah, I like, I could be editing a video or get a dude to clear that up my email inbox. From DM and you. So, and you know, you're going on dates,

and drinking, you know, you might be, it's like when you first start seeing someone, you drink more of them, because you get to know them. And like now we're happy to go for a meal, but I'd have them drink, you know, when you're coming forward with someone. But so, so I think being single is a takes a lot more time.

So I think having a good person in your life helps with like business and YouTube or whatever it is. One of the things I think is interesting is, a lot of friends would be significantly more effective out of their relationship. We all know a buddy who's in a terrible relationship. Yeah. The constantly being told by their partner, guy or girl, why you not seeing me, you're seeing your friends, you're choosing your friends over me. And what that causes is people to not pursue their goals and aspirations and dreams because they have to keep this other person

who's supposed to be a part of that journey, they have to actually take a step away from that journey in order to keep that person satisfied. So I think that's a misalignment, but what you also see is when people get into the right relationship that that actually can benefit and supercharge their progress, I would say on balance, I know more people in relationships

that I think are actually holding them back. For sure, but I can be keeping them going forwards. I would use it. Yeah, apps absolutely. And funny enough is that actually turn your girlfriend off you. You know, if you stop focusing on your girls and you know, you start sipping over her and it's always you you know that's

not attractive you know like most girls in general or most relationships you know they love to see their other half as someone on a mission someone driving towards their goal and and Linda even says that to me yourself like see me you, just start the pancake company, yes, she's like, sits here and down right now. And I was like, oh yeah, you like those flipping pancakes, so. But seriously, your ride is most relationships. Can't derail people off the girls. And it's actually, that's going to affect your relationship negatively. So yeah.

The thing about someone slowing the life down is so correct. It's kind of like you know you first meet somebody and you look from the outside in and you're like watching a rollercoaster go by a theme park and you're like holy shit. Look at all the loop deloops. It's so varied. I've never been on rollercoaster like this before. It looks like it's it's been really well thought out and quite established. And then, after you've waited in line and decided to buy your admission, you actually find out that it's like the kiddie's come at the frog right?

Hey, I love that ride. Let's see how he ride him tall enough to get on. But it's just doing the same thing over and over. And you thought that you were getting this extravagant, very adventurous, very life and you're totally correct, that kills a lot of attraction. I think as well, talking from a guy's perspective, one of the reasons that I get disinterested with girls is when I feel like I've got nothing new to kind of learn about them or know new insights and again if someone's constantly growing and learning and trying to do new things

and on a mission that's going to help to keep that spiral. That's attractive, you know, you're being driven and ambitious, that's just something that humans are attracted to and for a good reason. If you would admire your partner, I think that's such a dangerous position to be in because you can't not be attracted to them. If they fit all of the other criteria and you admire them, you're like holy shit. Like being with you is going to make me a better person. And you're hot.

Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah. The fucking double threatening. Exactly, that's a double whammy. So what else, man? Like do you guys ever struggle with YouTube stuff? Does it ever kind of get in the way the relationship? Of course, for sure. And but I've gone a little bit better by that and I've learned from previous relationships.

It's like sometimes just put the camera away. What was the mistake you were making? Just try to constantly get content when you're gonna be enjoying it? Yeah exactly. Like I remember it was a few years ago, it was in 2016 being an expoence like Bali or something and I was just like it was my first time over there and I was like oh Bali this is the YouTuber's dream. I need to vlog every day.

I like the idea of not enjoying the trip, so I learned a lot of lessons from that one. So sometimes you gotta just put the camera down and enjoy the moment. And oftentimes, even in terms of videos, some of my most of your videos are when you're just sitting down and talking about a topic. Sometimes you don't need to show everything and, look I'm talking about ladies, oh man, Bali, you know, most of all people just want to be informed and educated or entertained. I actually took like this marketing on course online, I just threw in business and marketing it in college, but I dropped it and I learned more in this little online course. I swear to God. So I'm starting this marketing course

and the key takeaway point I got from that is when it comes to social media and making people wanna share it, you need to elicit an emotional response. So it could be like entertained, you have motivated, inspired and formed anything. Even if they find it funny, has to elicit an emotional response

to make them wanna share it, you know, so it's interesting. Even if you're not a content creator, I think that everyone is kind of a pocket YouTuber now with the fact that they constantly take Instagram stories. Yeah. And it is, it is a balance, right? Because I understand that people want to show other people that care about them what they're getting up to. But again, as we said before, the balance between people being in relationships that are maybe holding them back, I would also say that most people

are overusing their content creation, the Instagram or Snapchat or TikTok or whatever it might be. When they go away somewhere and you think, fucking hell, man, like, do you even go back through the archives of your IG stories? No, but you can go back through your memories, but you don't have the memories because you spent all the time with her. So, you're like, following all the way to Bali, to not remember being there, but to tell everyone else. So, it's like, everyone else gets to go on holiday and you get to be a cameraman.

A dangerous man. Yeah, no, it is. And I used to not think that like phones and technology and social media was, you know, that was that effective on human life or like in a bad way. I was like, I was fine, you know, I think phones are great. So now this year with the amount of shit that's gone on and how I polarized we all are, I actually think social media and phones we need to tone it down a bit on them. So that, you know, this, especially with the election in America,

the pandemic worldwide, I'm like, I've never seen the internet go crazy. I know. It's wild. And when people don't have anything to keep them calm and they've got no social connection, they go to that. I don't know what you've ever noticed this. I did, I was with a girl in LA for about 10 days

and then I flew out to Hawaii on my own and The time that I was with someone I Didn't look at my I was my screen time was probably half an hour a day because you constantly talking and going for lunch The second that I was away from that person my screen time was six hours a day five hours a day because The screen was a surrogate friend. I didn't have anyone with me on the flight, I didn't have anyone with me in Hawaii, I made some friends in Hawaii, but until that point, I was like, I don't want, what I'm hypothesizing is,

I don't want to be alone, therefore, if I continue to use my phone and go on Instagram and watch YouTube and stuff like that, it will make me feel less alone. Yeah, and I think I'll watch some clips from Johann Harry, what's the exact, my guy's a lot. Yeah, and I think I watched some clips from Yo Han, Harry, what's the name of that? It's right, he's been on the show. Yeah, oh, no way!

Damn, damn, but so Yo Han, anyways, I watched some bits from him, and it's like, we're the loneliest we've ever been and all that, and so just some really interesting stuff there. And yeah, it's like our phones like a crotch, yeah. There's a really interesting statistic from America. The study was done in 1950 and they asked Americans, what is the, how many friends could you call on in a crisis?

And the most common answer was two. And now in 2019 the most common answer was none. That's not the average, but it's the most common answer. More people had none than had any other answer, which is pretty scary. So yeah, I think that connection is something, especially in 2020, man, I'll be interested to see what happens. I wonder whether coming back out of lockdown and this pandemic, people will yearn for social contact so much more that maybe they become a bit more empathetic and they become a little bit more like Together, yeah, yeah, I think they will we have that's maybe in you know, mr. Fos and Optimus

Lentingly positive English for a second yeah Or a bit more Irish we're begrudging nation Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, That's the Irish way, I think growing up I was actually I've been in that 100 street fights. Yeah, yeah. Is that just like a right of passage? Pretty much, especially like when you're young. Once I got like, ran like 19, 20, I'm being a fight since then, you know, because that's when you get like,

you have to, you have to see where it's constantly. Yes, yes, but when you're young, it's crazy in Dublin. Like, several drinks in the park, you know when you're those of fight And people are going to be in there like you've got a punch on face Yeah, sadly I do yeah, I'm like that's why my nose looks like this. It goes way to the left I wish I didn't say that no because that everyone's gonna notice So if Rob's nose does actually go all over the place Yeah, YouTube career over to get watch this guy anymore.

It's not really this un-symmetrical face. Talk to me about your training styles changed over the last few years. Yeah, so when I started off, like, useless. Like, didn't know anything and information was not nearly as easy accessible as it is now. So, like, you know, YouTube YouTube you should found like me in my So we're not really as popular and you'd read magazines which were you read Kai Green's routine 16 year-old Rob who's not on glorious amounts of trend It's gonna try Kai Green's routine

So I remember I'd like a bicep day, a tricep day, a forearm day, a cap day, a chest day, a trap day, maybe like 10 days till I got rounded chest legs again. So when a startup was useless because it was just not good information out there, but then as the years went on, better information started coming into the scene so I got much better and then ranked in 2016 I was like prepping for my first show and I was like fully addicted and I was taking training like probably the most serious I ever did in my life and then the last couple of years three years I've kind of like you know built a solid physique of learning how to incorporate that training

on my diet into my lifestyle, and so now I'm like, I can finally enjoy myself a little bit. So I know how to, you know, eat a meal out and kind of, you know, not, not, you know, like, for example, I'm eating the alight on, no, just save view calories for it, do some cardio, no, I had a balance of breathing. So yeah, my training is a lot more balanced now. They're my tree phases. So beginner, noob, extreme, and now, you know, balance. I don't think that people existing in 2020

can understand what 2010, 2012, world was like the fitness information. As you trawling through bodybuilding.com forums. The mix and teamation. Teamation, simply straddle. Yeah. trawling through bodybuilding.com forums and T-N-S-K and T-N-A-S-K T-N-S, I simply tried it. Yeah, and desperately trying to find like how much, how many grams of pre-digested aminos do I need to have before and after? Like all of that stuff, that whole world,

it was kind of a bit of a glory year because no one knew what the fuck they would do. I agree. I kind of found it super interesting and enjoyable in a weird way. I was kind of like, will this supplement do anything? Probably not. I'll spend a hundred pounds on it anyway. I'm a buy it. Do you remember? I can't remember.

He was Jay Cutler associated with back in the day. Was it Nitro Flag? Muscle Tech. Muscle Tech. Didn't they have a product where they were like, when you open the lid, little particles of it are going to come out, so you have to not have the lid open for more than five seconds. Yeah, I remember.

And it was another one called no explode. You know, like the original thing, that was my fucking go to it. That and Jack Trudy, it was just all heaven. So if someone, when I'd open the top no explode, me and my friends would take a sniff. Oh, I'm like, I can't wait nose, but boys, straight through by themselves. The world of like pre-workouts, I've switched a little bit, I'm sort of doing more functional fitness now, and we just use knock-o or caffeine, basically,

pre-workouts. But the world of like mad pre-workout seems to have died down a bit. In the bodybuilding world, is it like, for a bit, you're still going fucking mental. No, it's gone down completely completely and reason for that is a math is no band yeah I'm like oh god I could do with some math right now everyone's like wait you aren't on math but so basically the ingredient was one tree de-math of our mind I was the one in chapter that a craze that

made everyone go wild. And then obviously, I think some chap in Australia snorted some pure one, three, D. And he like passed away or my crazier something and they're like, alright, we gotta bound this. And then they bound all the other like mad ingredients in it. That's an ass like, that's pretty chill. I know, yeah.

There's always one guy in that room that's been name. It's like that's pretty chill. I know. Yeah. There's always one guy that Ruse, a fun, whatever. Yeah. And so I actually came at my own pre-workout in 2020 and like I did a collaboration with Ghost, which is the company I'm sponsored by. That was a good highlight in 2020. I was like, maybe feel kind of productive, you know, it was a cool, it was like childhood dream. It's like my name on a pre-workout. Like, young Jim Rob would dream of that, you know? But so basically I got to design the ingredient profile of the flavors. Obviously the flavor was whiskey's error It's the only whiskey's ever pre-workout in the world In the world and so I got to design the ingredients and it was pretty basic, you know, it was like

It was like beta-align caffeine, you know, arguing a few other it was like, bad outline, caffeine, you know, arguing a few other bits in there. But it was very, very minimum ingredients. What are the most common mistakes that you see people making with training? Like, yeah, we obviously spend a fair bit of time in the gym and you get to any questions from people. Like what are the lowest hanging fruits

that everyone fucks up? Yeah, so I'm gonna have gonna talk about training and diet here. So I've worked with thousands of people over the last seven years. In terms of training is people copying other people's plans. You know, and especially a beginner will see an advanced trainee, especially if they're huge on Instagram

or they're a top bodybuilder, and they'll just copy that routine. And it's like, if you're a beginner beginner ideally you want to just be coming to terms with the main campaign movements first. You just want to be getting familiar with doing your form right, you know, instead of like getting caught up in supersets and drop sets and all these, these, you know, mind muscle techniques and all this, you know, just want to be getting good form day and doing the main movements regularly, okay. So I mean, you compare that to the training routine, not for pro bodybuilders, it's just night and day. So that would be in terms of training, that would be the biggest

mistake I see. And people also following training plans that they can't sustain. So it's like if your coach gives you, someone who's a dude who has kids and a 95 office job, gives them a six day a week training plan that he's not going to stick to. It's just going to be all over the place whereas they give him like a three day full body routine that's like you know three hours a week and now we're in the gym every session. He's going to progress that much more because he can stick to it and actually track it properly. Is there a way that people can predict whether or not they're going to be able to comply with the training routine? Basically, you just look at someone's schedule, you know, and their training age and then it's pretty simple like that

You know how many times a week can you realistically make it to the gym? And so that would be there to training things that are probably the most common especially for beginners Then in terms of diet, here's the two, okay, I'd go And in terms of diet, here's the two. Okay, I'm gonna be right back. People think there's like magic foods that do certain things. And they think there's like healthy foods that they have to eat.

Whereas for the most part, of course I recommend eating many whole foods. So you can do a good nutrient, dense diet, but for the most part, in terms of body composition, that's going to come down to your calorie and your macronutrient intake, so you protein carbs and fats.

So your body doesn't necessarily see like potatoes or white rice. It's these carbs, you know? So as long as you're getting those basics and you're focusing on your total daily intake, which brings me down to my next point, that's the bread and butter. That's the main thing. That's the main thing. No bread, no bread, no bread, forever. So that's the main thing is focusing on, instead of focusing on certain foods,

focus on the calorie and macro intake per day. Another one is timing. People get obsessed over timing, okay? Be it intermittent fasting, six meals a day. Post-workout, 15 minute, anabolic window. Oh, I have to have a certain food pre workout, gives me a pump, right? Again, focus on what you eat in the entire day.

A lot of lies have been made up by Silvan Kumpi saying, you need to drink this shake. Fourteen minutes after workout, or your arms will disintegrate. Okay, so we've been glad a lot of lives about timing of the nutrients you take in. And it's about even like people with intermittent fasting. I like intermittent fasting, I do it myself, but it's mainly just that convenience and schedule and fit your life's self. People say it has magical benefits that will change your life.

If calories are equated, fun loss will be the same. And that does the fact. So, you know, people like to make things more complicated to sell the secret. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And it's so basic. So they're the most common mistakes I've seen after training, thousands of people for years. What's the dumbest diet you've tried? I think, yeah, yeah, probably the keto people don't get offended.

Okay. maybe Keto people don't get offended. Okay, first of all, the Gomez died, I tried to, I was Keto and again, it was more like really low carb. So when I first started, I went on my first course. I didn't really know much about calories and macros. I was like, I'm just gonna get rid of carbs. I was like, I'm just gonna get a dish of carbs on. That's the thing. That's the thing.

Yeah, yeah, God damn, that's the thing. That's making me fat, okay? So I saw eating carbs and of course I lost loads of fat because my calories were so low. And I was like, oh yeah, it was the carbs making me fat. Not realizing that all the matters in fat loss are not all, but the main thing is being in calorie deficit, of course.

So I didn't realize that, you know, I was like, oh, it was the carbs, I knew it was the carbs, but I didn't realize that, you know, I was like, oh, it was the carbs, I knew it was the carbs, but I didn't know by default the calories shot down. And then obviously educated myself on, you know, dieting down properly and including carbs that you diet. So the next coat I went on, I looked completely different. I got just as mean, if not leaner, and I've held on to so much more muscle strength and felt better and it was way more sustainable. You know I'm I managed to say lean pretty much as long as I like because I wasn't crash-dieting and removing an entire food group from my diet. You know if you remove an entire food from a diet

be it if it's significant you're gonna lose fat because calories not because you've removed this certain thing. People's like, oh, stuff's eating bread. Last time's away, it was probably the bread. It was like, no bitch, it was the calories. So that's it, and that's definitely the dumbest data I've followed. But I do know people who just,

they understand that calories is the main thing, but they say like keto just because they, they, the personal preference. So keto people calm down. Okay. I'm I'm with you partially Stairs out microfiber. No, please for the love of God stop messaging me. Yeah Have you heard of the fitness menopause? No, right? So this is something that I came up with It's it's slightly odd, but I think everybody goes through it, right? Fitness Manopause is when you get toward the end of your 20s, especially as a guy, but also as a girl,

who's trained for significant period of time, maybe start training in new late teens or early 20s, and you start to realize that actually what you're doing might not be making you fitter, but it might make you look fitter, and you become chronically aware of your own mortality as you approach 30, you realize that like going up a set of stairs tires you out and you're out of breath and you can't touch your toes,

and actually my ankle hurts a bit, and my chest is like is super tight all the time, blah, blah, blah. And what you do is you start looking toward different styles of training. Yeah. So you start looking towards yoga or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or CrossFit or you go back to doing dancing that you used to do as a young girl or whatever it might be. And there's a turn of back.

I can day one as a young girl. And you were a young girl, yeah, young ballet dancer in Ireland. I'll turn that after getting the shit kicked out of here. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if it was pushing space. I don't know why they punched me in the face. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I was just there. I was dancing in the field and Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I was just there.

I was dancing in the field and the water he got in the tank. So this is something that I see, especially amongst my buddies and me, that we've all kind of made these little transitions. But you and Mike are both locked in hard on a long-term journey of bodybuilding. Have you ever been tempted, like, I'm gonna try some martial arts, I'm gonna try some CrossFit, I'm gonna try some endurance sports. Yeah, so I've done a couple of MMA sessions here and there because I made a lot of lads and SPG in Dublin,

I asked them one thing, I really messed with Dublin as well. And I love it, you know, it's always fun. But I kind of just gravitate backwards towards the point of life, you know? I think it's just like my favorite style of training, but with that said, I do like changing things all from time to time and I do also like kind of enjoy more like activities like going on hikes with misses, you know, but I'm not that like hardcore bodybuilding as I was maybe in like 10s and then 15s and 16s where I was like all about as much games possible. I actually was used to be a slight eating disorder as a lot of people in the fitness industry do.

And I was afraid to eat out even, because I was like, I can't track this. And so I definitely went through a hardcore phase and now I'm a bit more relaxed with things. I'm funny enough results are the same, if not better, you know? So it's something. I think a lot of people probably need to know that the neuroticism, that brackets between what they want to do and the effort that they do to get it,

that the way that you feel between those can be very different, and you can still get the same results. Oh, yeah. I remember I did this, I did this post a while ago that said, the difference between the girl who obsesses about going to the gym all day and thinks that she needs to be super motivated and gets really worried and work to self up

and believe that she needs to turn a motivation and then finally drags her ass to the gym that night. And the girl who just goes because she goes, the results at the end are precisely the same. They're literally the exact same thing, but the difference is one of them's hard to use that obsession across the board. And I think that that's like the number one trick of motivation is that for a lot of stuff you don't actually need to be motivated, you just need to do it. And that sounds very circular, but it is the truth. The end goal is that the outcome is the outcome, and you can achieve that as long as you do

the thing, regardless of how much, and that, with the eating disorders and the classic body dysmorphia that I think is pretty rampant and infinite in the street. All of that stuff is people who are using something quite negative to put them in a good place, but they could still get to that good place without having to feel all the negativity. Yeah, and that's why I said, like the most common mistakes I see are, you know, people getting caught up on, you know, the timing and the certain foods, and it's like, dude, you know, it makes a difference. Like, I hate break a dip, you know, it's not going to make even a measurable difference, you know, where especially for most 99% people.

Like if you're top 1% bodybuilder or athlete, yeah, it's good to position some protein and calories, a range of workouts, but for Jim who just works in the office, those are the wife and kids, he just wants to get in better shape, get shred down a bit for somewhere. So you've been wearing a laptop.

Yeah, yeah. What do you think that YouTubers, fitness YouTubers, know about making content that most other content creators don't? I think that they know well about informing people, because you know, fitness, unless you're like, showing off your physique, you know, what are you talking about? You got to give information, really. And so that's a thing I think a lot of vloggers, like, you know, you see some vloggers in LA, they're like, you know, young kids or whatever, you know, I'm sure you're blowing up.

But they go by today and you don't really get, give anything to your viewers. I think that's one thing that fitness YouTubers and fitness industry is good at, is informing people and being as educational as possible and showing off your knowledge. And you know, you're just being ragged on the fitness industry there. But I love the fitness industry and the best people I've met my entire life. Like you know, my, for example, you know, yourself, you know, you know, my, have been, um,

connections, my true fitness. So I think you'll actually find an extremely positive community on the most part because everyone's exercising working out. And I think exercising regularly, you know, doesn't have to be like super extreme, young B bodybuilder, but I think exercising regularly is possibly, if not the best thing someone could do. Actually, like on Rob Lipset and I believe in fitness.

You know, I think it is the most important thing. Like when people are like Rob, what's the most important part of your day? I'm like, getting a session, working out. And it's not like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I got a good workout in like the rest of the day, which just flows well You know and some to some to look forward to when you wake up as well And so I think the majority of people would be a lot better off They they've did in some form of resistance training including some YouTube as well probably yeah It's interesting man. I don't know like personally for me. I've started watching a bunch of stuff from probably the same kids You're talking about in LA, and some of it is like enjoyable mindless watching. Yes.

But it's a sort of thing that afterwards I feel a bit guilty. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, I feel guilty I've gone and ticked off. Oh God, that's dude. We were with a girl out here and my buddy George asked to see a screen time and she was averaging nine hours a day on a phone, three and a half hours every day was on TikTok. And apparently, you've just sat there like watching and the way that she was moving was just like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and I would go out and say on a limb, TikTok is the least value-adding platform ever

created. I would probably agree with that as well. Like, there's a few, it can't, like, motivation ones are ones about like, business of the very hard fight. To enjoy the fantasy. Yeah, and people making the swimming pools turn green. Oh, I haven't seen that. Have you not seen it? They put like, you obviously spent a bit more time on it than me.

Yeah, I'm good to. But honestly, man, like, it really does sort of fucking concern me that how much can you get across in the space? What's the maximum a TikTok can be? 15 seconds, 30 seconds? It's something like that. Short. So you're right.

You have to get through a lot of crap for a small length duration of something that might be slightly informative. Yeah. And John, what concerns would be bad that screen time, the person mentioned there, in hours is probably more than they sleep. They'll spend more time on the phone than they are asleep.

That scares me as well. And sleep is another one. I'm not a good sleeper. Like I... What's that mean? Like, as in, I struggle to get... I have so much energy. When it comes to the end of the day,

I'm like staring off at the ceiling like, can't fucking wave it tomorrow! And I'm just not sleeping and I always wake up early. I'm not currently kicking in. That's fine. I always wake up early like just automatically like I wish some days I could sleep in but I really struggle again to sleep early Which is really bad and something I need to focus on and will massively help your fitness as well Huge and everything sleep. I watched it was when I really got enlightened on sleep was it was Joe Rogan I walk it. Yes number 1109. Yeah Tell us

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And he's at the sleep diplomat on Twitter. It's just, yeah. I'm such a fucking good name. Yes, I'm sick. I changed my bio to a chief pancake inspector. Have you, ex? Well, you know, that Dango Red Pill on sleep there, and it's sick.

I never thought you could make a subject about lying down to dark so interesting. One of the things that I think is why that resonated with a lot of people and you're seeing a lot of sleep technologies now. It was coffee. Yeah. What? I can't know idea why I'm not sleeping. One of the reasons I think that people really resonate with it and you're seeing stuff

like sleep masks and different binonial beats that help you go to sleep, the chili pads, mattress topper, different types of fancy mattresses and pillows and weighted blankets, all of this sleep technology, the reason that I think that's getting so much attention is that it's one of the few things that you ubiquitous across all of society. Everyone needs to sleep. Right. Everybody also probably needs in one form or another to have a bit of fitness in their life. Everyone also needs to look at their diet.

Like no one's not moving, eating or sleeping. Everyone's doing that in one form or another. So that's why the broadness of the market that you can access is so big. And I think that Matthew Walker, I honestly wonder how much of the sleep industry he and other people like him have kicked off? Yeah, so the way he said sleep industry there, I'm like, is it like the fitness or gaming industry

where they make the eep of any sort? He's like, her math walker only sleeps seven hours per night. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I looked in his window last night. I saw him wake, I lied on his phone. His face mask was lying half while Oh, that was a little shy. Like I couldn't make it through that one either.

Like that was cherry picking at its finest. Yeah, it's, it's man, that's a whole, the rabbit hole for us to get down there. But yeah, I think, yeah, I don't actually own Angry Vegans for people that wanted like, you know, save the animals, the most angry violent people I've ever come across in my life.

So there's an interesting article I read recently about this, right? You have two ends of the scale. One is an end, which is very newsworthy, but polarizes people. That's the ones that you're talking about. So Peter that'll throw pigs blood on people wearing kind of de-goose and stuff like that. Then at the other end of the scale,

you have people who are doing animal change, but very reasonably, but the problem is that it's not as newsworthy, because it's not as speculative, it's not as attention-grabbing. So if you're making, for instance, a reasonable argument, factory farming for animals that never see the light of day, there's not many people other than farmers that are defending that. It's such a reasonable argument that it almost doesn't need to be said and would quite easily convert people.

Yes. But because it's so reasonable, it doesn't make headlines. And on the other end, the one that does and what happens is inevitably all of veganism gets branded by its most extreme elements. Yes. When we're talking about the left versus the right, the right gets branded as racists that wear KKK hood and the left gets branded as feminists with purple hair. Like, it's not. Like, the middle is the fastest section of both of those groups. The same with the animal change stuff. But, unfortunately, the reasonable, well thought out vegan movement

that's trying to make really good progress in terms of animal welfare gets coat totally, like, dissuade by someone that will spray paint the side of a land Rover like outside of a farm, you know me Yeah, it's crazy and it's like it's a catch-22 because it's like, you know That's what people hear about but what people should be hearing about it is the other breeze of the argument But they don't so yeah, you know, and that's the same with anything like even with politics I'm sure most people are reasonable, people that listen to both sides, but we always make headlines. They don't make headlines, and we always just hear about big stream laugh and the extreme rhymes. So I tweeted to you the day, reasonable people rarely make headlines.

Yeah, Nick, can I get you to just check that... I've fun still recording, I forgot to put it on the airplane mode and I'm terrified someone's rang me. Yeah, absolutely. Beautiful. Beautiful. No one's right. No one's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Three a.m. and you can't know her.

She's ghosted you. What's your advice to someone that wants to start a successful YouTube channel? Right. Consistency, quality. Weekly, monthly. I would say at least twice a week and that's a hardest part. I uploaded like was for weeks last like a few weeks. I'm going to pick it up now. I want to need to like focus on something like being a competition or you're launching a brand. I dial it in. But consistency is what will build a relationship with your viewers because they're seeing you regularly

and it's like, you know what I'm gonna say, let's say you watch a series of Game of Thrones or something it's like every week, you know people follow the story that's kind of like what they want with YouTube watching you know your live, for you the information put out, they want to like follow it and they want to be regular really So consistency and obviously quality still if that gets shared and unless it's an emotional response is really way to go Of course, that's you know very easier said than done of course, but yeah, I think building that community is Super helpful and I think YouTube is the most powerful YouTube is the most powerful social media. In terms of like me for my you know the pancakes, the training plans, my book, whatever it is, YouTube has made the most sales for that because when people look at an Instagram pic of you doing an hub selfie, that's it. You know, it's a still image whereas we're doing 60

frames, 60 still images per second here. You know, so people get to know you a lot better and they build that relationship with you. And it's like there's a lot of people in the fitness industry that like put my physique to shame. But yeah, they're can't string to sentences together. They can't talk to a camera. You know, and so you know, they've been less successful whatever you define that as and you know, in the fitness industry. So because you know, and so, you know, they've been less successful, whatever you define that as, and you're in the fitness industry, so because you know, they're not, they're not talking to reviewers. I said this to my issue. I was so fascinated

to see what would happen if fitness Instagram and started a YouTube channel, and if fitness YouTube has started a podcast, because I've got this theory that most creators max out at the top of the curve of what they can produce. Now, I have a challenge being less of a boss. I like to talk for an hour and a half. So when I start vlogging, my little clips that I've been trying so hard out here and I was asking Mike, I'm like, dude, how do you get what you need to say into 20 seconds?

Like it's so difficult. That's my challenge to become less like verbose. Whereas I would hazard a guess that tons and tons and tons of Instagrammers, especially in the fitness world, would be so found out if you ask them to sit down for an hour and have a conversation. Exactly, that is so true. And one thing, I'm gonna say this right here,

is I need to get on the podcast site because I can go on and on for hours. But I think in terms of what we just mentioned there are YouTube Instagram and podcasts. I think podcasts are what I like the most informative and what really gets you captivated audience. If someone listens to you, speak for three hours, they're going to be invested. But what's your average view time on YouTube? I wouldn't know the average, I have to go into analytics, but most of my videos are between

20 to 40 minutes long. Are they really? Yes, yes. Yours are a bit longer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, death. So you want to maybe 10 minutes, 5 to 10 minutes each on an average watch time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the equivalent on it, let's say that you're doing a podcast, the analytics on the back end of Apple Podcast Connects,

for me, a 70 to 75% completion. So you're talking about a 45 minute average, listen time. And that's because when you put a podcast on, you're not constantly being hit by other temptations. There's not a thumbnail for the what's up next. And now you're not able to swipe down and have a little bit of a look about it. So sure, it's like being a kid in the candy store.

You're like, oh, you see, it's in the thumbnail, and you're like, all right, Rob, I'm outta here. You should've about divine, Rob. Yeah, he has a booty selfie over here. Yeah, I can compete with that. Yeah, so the retention that you get on audio is significantly better.

But I think that you're right, like YouTube is in terms of enacting change and developing an audience, definitely the most powerful. Another thing I learned a couple of years ago is the potential for VR to change people's perceptions. So you got to think everything that we're doing really is being mediated by a flat screen. Whether it's still image, whether it's a video, whether it's a really good video, whether it's short-long, whatever it is, there's like an upper bound on how immersive that can be because it's only ever a flat screen or maybe a big TV or whatever.

But they did studies where they showed people the effects of tree-felling on a VR headset. Tree-felling. Knocking down trees to make paper, and it permanently changed their approach to paper wastage. So, basically, the point is that as we get into more and more immersive technologies, into AR and VR and holographics, into whatever it might might be that that is going to raise the ceiling of how much impact we can have. Like if you think it's quite difficult back in the day in World War II, Hitler would have been using oratory but it couldn't have been recorded and replayed because not everybody would have had a TV, you would have used the radio

but you don't get the visual with it, You would have been reading stuff, but that paper is quite un-engaging. And now what we're doing is slowly raising that ceiling of persuadability of the platform. And then when AR and VR come along or go into reality virtual reality, it's just gonna go through the ceiling. So when you get the opportunity, man, virtual reality training sessions,

get your headset on your train with Rob Livs. Yeah, yeah, you know the owner of Bodybuilding.com? That's what he's invested in. No, not really. It's a really. He's invested in, I don't know the exact ins and outs, but something like a Vior gym or something. And like, you know, he's a body, a body.

Train body. Yeah, train body. For real, you know? Like, like, this is the next step. And one of my favorite, I'm actually really into, you know, like it like this is the next step and one of my favorite I'm actually really into you know this whole AI and virtual reality world I think it's super interesting watch is ready player would Yeah, I'm pretty with some ice now So I think it's super interesting and like said, I think it's it's one to watch. Are you a simulation guy?

so it's my favorite person. Yeah. Nick Buster and simulation hypothesis is very very hard to refute. Like it's for the people that don't know what it is. It's a three-step argument that justifies why we're not in root reality, i.e. while we're living in a simulation. Here's another interesting thing for you that adds to the simulation argument. Hit me. Okay, so if you heard of the plank length. I have not. Right, so the plank is as much as I can hold a plank for. Yes, it is.

That's actually how long your plank is. When I side plank. So the plank length is created by I think max plank and it denotes the smallest length that exists. So below this there is no smaller amount and it sounds bizarre because you should be able to just continue halfing stuff until it gets smaller but that's not. Now the way that that relates to the simulation hypothesis is that you would not be able to simulate a universe with unlimited fidelity or an unlimited resolution. So you'd remember your old CRT TV.

If you went up right close to it, you could see the pixels. And then now we've got retina displays that our eyes can't pick up, but if you had a super magnifier, you would be able to see that as well. And the argument is that the reason that there is a minimum length within the universe, which is the plank length,

is because that's the resolution that the universe is created at. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha What's the study they studied? Something like neurons or energy, and it changed the way it moves when people looked at it. So that's quantum theory. Yeah. The observing particle means that you can't basically see the motion and the position of something at the same time. Yeah. And observing it forces it to go into one or the other.

Now, the specifics of that, like this is where that looseness in the system is where people like Deepak Chopra who are fucking hate, like they slot in all sorts of weird quantum spookiness about like energy and and and spirits and stuff like that. Yeah, I read a secret. Yeah, I don't fucking know, get it off, get it off the bar I guess. This is it over. Yeah, but yeah, that's an interesting one. This, think to do with fine-chained universe, right? So there is a number of different universal constants. One of them's gravity, one of them's the weak,

strong and weak forces. One of them is a slight push away that all of the matter in the universe has, and the only way that we could have this particular universe where matters push the part so much that it counteracts gravity, but isn't push the part so much that it allows gravity to bring things together. The level of fineness, the knife edge that that's on for absolutely everything is so so unbelievably precise it's like one part in a trillion trillion trillion trillion if it went left or right more or less that the universe wouldn't exist yeah and that as well is another thing where people just think it makes a fucking good

argument the Renaissance yeah yeah yeah yeah I believe it yeah but it's not like change something it's like it's but it's not like change something. It's like it's like, yeah, you're average liver, a vestige or a similar thing. Did you listen to Nick Bossram, the guy that came up with the simulation hypothesis, On Rogan, where Rogan didn't get the argument? No, that would be me, no. I don't think I heard that.

Was he on Lex Friedman? Nick, I'm not sure. Yeah. He's like a Swedish guy, bald head. Oh, he was, yes, I did listen to it. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. So On Rogan, he tries to explain like guy bald head. Oh, he was yes. I did listen to it. Yes Yeah, yeah, so on Rogan He tries to explain like his crowning work, right this simulation thing tries to explain it to Joe And I've been a fan of Nick super intelligence is my favorite book on AI, which is what Sam Harris relates to yeah

And I'm like fucking yes, Rogan's gonna nail this Nick Bostrom's amazing Nick Yes, Rogan's gonna nail this Nick Bostrom's amazing. Nick gives one hour of press per month. That's what he allocates out of his schedule. One hour of press per month. So to get him out to LA, to record with Joe in the studio, you know, probably took up like four months allowance or something. I'm thinking this is gonna be unreal. And the final hour is just a fucking loop of Joe not understanding the simulation hypothesis and it's so painful and someone commented below saying I wish I was living in a different simulation where Joe Rogan understands the simulation I got this in.

It's so fucking funny. That's quality. And as a podcast to yourself, like who do you look at as the goat? Like who? Yeah, he's unbelievable, man. Yeah, yeah. The reason is I'm like, John, I said that because some people try not to say that as

if they are like, they are saying like the ground hero. Yeah, exactly. They try to say like some fucking unknown forecast or something. So I think like the best guys that I admire, the ones that are the most precise speakers, but what Rogan does particularly well is he asks the question that you would have asked if you'd had 30 minutes to prepare, but he just continually does that throughout an episode. And what you hear is him say the thing that you wanted to know without knowing that you wanted to know it. And you're like, oh yeah, that is where I wanted the conversation to go to. He very rarely interjects and forces something to go left

because he precks, but he doesn't prep too much. It means that he's always just happy to allow the conversation to flow and he'll gently try and guide it to what's... So he's great, Sam Harris is phenomenal. Ben Shapiro is the most precise speaker on the planet, he's fucking... Love, love, love, love.

So good. Jordan Peterson's out with rehab. So that is so bad. He's going to be in your book, yeah. Lover, lover So good Jordan Peterson's out with rehab So that is so bad, does he go in there with a new book? Yeah So I emailed Penguin Ranghouse yesterday, let's see what happens Nice So yeah, there's some good guys, but I do think

The intellectual dark web Did you think that Sam Harris handed his membership card back in? I sh**y not Oh my, give it to me It's the most like like it was so fucking interesting. I don't know. Trump's arrangement syndrome has fully got some. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's very, he's gone full left. You know, like, fuck very too much left. I just think he's, he was so blinded by the fact that he didn't like Trump. Yeah. And then I don't know,

man. Is someone else, you know what? I I saw the funniest point made to people buying voters, they're like name one reason to vote for. No few reasons about buying would I imagine Donald Trump. Well, it's the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a, and getting in off of, can we really say in 2020 that the best politicians of the leaders of the biggest nation on the planet both should be as incompetent as those two?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like something off. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know how it got there. Yeah, what's, how does Ireland work? Who's in charge now? Jeff, funny enough, I follow like American politics more than Irish politics.

So we have a T-Shock, which is our prime minister. What? It's Irish for prime minister pretty much. What's it called? T-Shock. So I speak Irish. I call this a tall, two-to-toe, Tomé Osserra, and I just rebore the sound I'm doing.

That what was that? That hey, it was all of them. Rob is my name. How's it going? I'm good. I'm from Ireland. Christ. Yeah, yeah.

Wow. It's a like T-Shook. T-Shook, yeah. So we have a Prime Minister and of course, you know, that is the person who runs the country pretty much as the final say, that we also have a President that doesn't really do much. Okay.

Yeah, I know, yeah, it's strange. It's like just a President. He just made a ghost and would be matches and like, you strange, it's like just a president. In Spain he goes and will be matches and like you know, kind of like makes great friends. He's the legend, he's got my Miggle Dehiggins. I mean, he's like a poet. Well, his name is Michael Dehiggins, but everyone calls him Miggle Deh.

Why? This is an Irish name called Miggle Dehiggins. Oh my God. And so he got just this chair. So I want to be president of Ireland one day. I was gonna say, if you considered that as a retirement. Oh definitely, yeah for sure. So I don't want to be T- Ireland one day. I was going to say if you considered that as a retirement. Oh definitely, yeah for sure. So I don't want to be T-shirt because it's too serious.

I'm like, if you could just slide me into the presidential role, that would be great. And so the goal would be, I'm actually going to go as injured by this. So the goal would be to have just a huge focus on health and fitness and become the strongest fit destination in the world. I truly do believe in fitness. I swear to God. If I got became president, okay, first of all, I'll have a YouTube channel as well. Like, why doesn't Trump block? I subscribe. I subscribe. You know, it's like, can we just get those Twitter ads on video, please? That would be something. So I would do, you know, weekly vlog is the prayers.

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It's gonna make people more productive. I'd get people in the right jobs as well. So it was gonna be a lot more motivated and the economy would increase in turn. And again, the health bill would come down massively. And so I'm like, there's not, I don't hear enough politicians talking about hidden gem. Dead serious, by the way.

None of politics talking about calories. None of politics about mental health. And none of politics about doing something about your passion about it. People are like, oh, this is too cliche. You know, what about GDPR? And I'm like, no, no, this is a fuck GDPR, even Stan Swarck.

So that's it. That's a rather surprising present. I'm 28 now, you gotta be 35 to run. So, can you copy me? Seven, seven years in those new policies. Yeah, if seven years I'm like, I'm like, what's 28 and what's 35? The swole this nation and world.

Pretty much like a nation of warriors as Irish are meant to be. So there is like an interesting point there, the fact that the difference between our parents' generation and ours is so vast, right? But I don't hear my dad talking, when my dad talks about health and fitness, he'll talk about walking the dogs. Like that's everyone's mom and dad, right? Yes, yeah, of course.

Put some in. When we're parents, that's not going to be our view of the world. No, no. And I wonder, there will be a point at which the level of awareness of health, fitness, mental wellbeing, diet, sleep, everything, how you accrue wisdom, how you deal with negotiations, everything. It'll show you the full work. It'll show you the full work.

That's going to continue to take over the old world Mm-hmm, and I wonder whether or not I Don't think that there's going to be another shift at least in the next hundred years in terms of insight as much as there was between our parents Generation and ours. Yes, so I think the gap is so wide between them and us I don't think that there's another one really to come already so I can't see me neither and so what would you Reborn it? 1988. Yeah, so I've born in 19 so ran that area. We've lived in both Nonphones and phones. I think that's a big transition in history of my kind really

You know, so I don't like you said I don't think the two generations will be so different because now It's gonna be like phones, phones. Yeah, it's gonna take so long. Your kids, you're gonna be able to teach your kids how to use whatever the technology is. You're gonna have an understanding around the fact that you probably don't need to use it too much. But everyone's more my dad has said,

I can't log into my Amazon account, or can you help me set up online? They do not, my parents do not have Amazon. They do not. No. They do not. No. My dad's on my account. So I see all of the stuff that he orders. It's like dad's on my blow of dust.

It's all just DIY kit. It's constant like dad, another drill. What? You need another drill? That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. But yeah, the difference is just insane. And I think I was looking at the curve and technology progression

and it's like it's on an exponential peak, it's just going insane and I'm just like when are we getting singularity? Where's that come? So fucking hell don't get me down this round. Okay. Yeah, right. It's just there's a book that you can listen to called The Press of Pissed by Toby Ord. And it's the best book on existential risk, which includes misaligned artificial gender and intelligence that you will ever hear. Get it unordable.

Everyone, if you haven't already, please go and get it. And that, they did a study at a conference of artificial intelligence researchers And that, they did a study at a conference of artificial intelligence researchers and the average time that was presumed for us to hit singularity is 50 years. Yeah, like so. So it's within our lifetime. That's, that's, that's, that's,

and I'm so glad to say that. I'm like, I can't wait for our robot overlords. So, I'm like, I'm finding some shit's gonna get done right here. Yeah, no, which I show up in sooner. Waiting, waiting for these stupid technology to arrive. And this humano is. What do you think is the biggest difference between American and British YouTubers? That's so funny, and I'll lump Irish in there as well, even though there's very few Irish YouTubers. That's so funny and I'll lump Irish in there as well.

Even though there's very few Irish YouTubers and it's so funny because Irish are very begrudging. That one's something different. They're like, what the fuck do you think you're doing? You know, so I, when I started so much hate, they're like, who's your man think he is in the gym, lifting weights? Doon is fucking, boost up curls.

What? And I was like, fucking a lug, lift and weights. Thune is fucking, boost up curls. What? And I was just like, I'm gonna lug out. I got fired. I dropped my goggles, I got no no, Stu. But so the difference with Irish and British YouTubers, I think American YouTubers are so, hey, what's up guys? You know, it's so animated.

Whereas Irish and British are like a bit more chilled and a bit more homely. So there's like certain appeals to both as well. But Americans are just like politics. They're so in your face, you know, it's just so outrageous. Yeah, they are. It's, I don't know whether they think this about us, but whenever I see Americans on TV, even just Doris in the street, they always sound so media-trained. They always come across and I'm like, that sounds so much cooler than whenever I see like Janice 63 from Wigan, like talking, giving her thoughts on lockdown. She's taking the terrier to the corner. Yeah, I'm in. This is going out to the world.

Like you're an ambassador for this entire nation. I have a fuck showing up. But maybe an ambassador for a week. Yeah, yeah, no, it's so funny. And do you ever watch them? It's on the podcast as well, but their Instagram kind of is so funny. The all-gast no breaks, my gosh. Oh my God, it's so funny.

It's just outrageous. Like people are like, why, claw! That's so funny. And all gas now breaks is something that I need to get into more, but they're so popular. Yes, it's certainly humor. Some just, the way they edited as well,

it's just hilarious. As your platform grows, how do you deal with negativity and criticism online? I think I actually care a bit less about it. As a grows, I just kind of, you get kinda used to it. Like the first time you ever get a meme coming online, you're like, what?

You're like, what'd you say that to me? How could this be happening? And that like, you just get so used to it. And now I find it really funny. Like first of all, I actually got very little paid online. Like tough, you know, if the app or isn't negative, come like sometimes joking, you know, like, and it's just like,

you gotta learn to laugh at yourself. I think that's a huge skill to have. It's just learning to laugh long with things, and just, yeah, you know what, it's pretty funny. And then when you see someone who's like, a car saying, yo, you wanker, all the, every name under someone, you're like, you can't take that seriously

You can't get a friend without if you get a friend without you're an idiot, you know And so that's it you just kind of get used to it and you just understand that some people are bored and you know There's a bit too much time in the day and just give me a bit of energy. That simulation. Yeah They're simulating so they've got their simulation on like difficulty setting extreme and then I go, God, well I need to rip my problems I need to start again with a better skin of green Yeah, I get new outfits I need to purchase some add-ons in the out store So I really don't mind at all and funny enough, you never need a hater in real life, you know

That's an interesting answer Yeah, yeah, you never made a hate or a real life, you know? That's an interesting answer. Yeah, you never made a hate or a real life. So it's just weird when people have like these anonymous accounts. Generally, I'd like to buy it too. It's like when you're a kid, you do. You know, I don't recall them in the UK. Like in America, they call them a doorbell ditch. An arm-pulling knickknacks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have to go up and ring doorbelly, run away. It's kind of like that, you know? It's kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and he's like, oh, you don't want to be being a YouTuber of 15. I was like, maybe I do. You know, I'm like, I used to think that. I was like, okay, I don't want to, you know, be doing this forever.

I'm like, Joe Rogan's 52. He's the best YouTuber in the world. Pretty much, I'd like on paper. You know, he's killing it. Kacing Ice that Gary V. Jordan Peterson is a YouTuber. He's a more subscribed YouTuber to me.. Jordan Peterson is a YouTuber. He's a more subscribers than me He is most definitely YouTuber Sam Harris. I'm then I'm like Wait, all the people that I watch most on YouTube are all like in their fifties

So I used to think like oh Man, I can't be doing like these little vlogs forever and some way that's true like, you know I won't be my baby turn into a podcast or, you know, something like Prager You and that style of video, I love that. But I'll definitely always be online for the long term. And of course, I'm setting up companies on the way, the pancake venture. Tell me about that. So that goes live today at 10 p.m. Dubai time, 6 p.m. are in the UK time.

So basically, I'm always making protein pancakes on my channel I'm a first several viral video over a million views. It was head-and-make protein pancakes and at the time I'm in I'm living in like a hostel and I'm trying to start YouTube because again I had no job and I got job at college and so I'm just trying to like make it as like a YouTube fitness YouTuber like a personal trainer. And so I'm making a video like how to make perfect protein pancakes from scratch and you look 10 different ingredients.

They're really good and they blow up. So next to this day, it's like a thing with my channel is like, hey, you know, watch this raw lipstick make a protein pancakes. And so I'm like, I should make my own protein pancake complete. You know, and so it's great. It's been up the Instagram page has been up 48 hours. It's got like 11,000 followers.

And it goes live today. And like, I can't wait to see how it does. But I want to turn that into a high-sold name. Like, you know, I want to get that in supermarkets or I wouldn't be starting today or finishing the day with that. I love breakfast and night. And especially about that, it's the macros.

The macros are amazing. And I'm not saying this most of the time when you buy like Prode bag eggs on a sub-uncomplete, it's like the protein is super high yes, it's gonna taste like shit. And then this one you can't notice the difference. I, truth, I had a lot of kind of hard. When I got the first sample, I sent it back and looked at the nutrition and ate them. And I said, oh, they have after send us the wrong thing. This is just pancakes, there's no protein in them. And I go and send them back to the lab.

They obviously send us the wrong mix. And they're like, no, that's the nutrition profile. And I'm like, what? I'm like, I need to double check this. And then, and so they just taste amazing when having like insanely good macros, like the protein to carb ratios within a few grams.

It's all gluten free as well for people that are into that. And really all like organic and natural ingredients, like very, very wholesome. And then they just taste amazing. And it's a cool brand, it's called Fuel Cakes. And so I modeled it around in 1950's cereal boxes. It's really retro.

I like the brand. I didn't want to make it sell tech nine days and protein bakes. Fuel cakes, yeah. I'm just like, well I've been born with this and something that like my sister, you know, have gift or a make. It's just some of that I have all likes.

And so yeah, I've got big visions, I think it's probably gonna be the biggest protein bag I've come in the world. so my delusional self speaking again but you know I got me delusional I'm having a good time but so that's that's lunch and tonight. Why can people go if they want to get them? at fuelcase.com. I'm wedgie ship. Worldwide? No way. Yeah it's Ships and London worldwide so I've got people fulfilling orders for me so yeah it's Ships Island in Worldwide, so I've got people fulfilling orders for me. So yeah, it's a big operation and I'm very confident in it. So I got that as well and then my online coaching app as well.

So that's huge, you know, it updates your trade. I've used a bit AI as well, actually. So that updates your training and nutrition plan every month. I've got loads of people kill it on that. Got my book, sure I'll write another book again in my lifetime I want to do like an x-rated version like so I'm paying whatever my publishers and I was like I gave him the first book and they're like first of all Why are you swearing in this book?

Second of all, this is way too complicated for like someone just to walk in and grab off a bookshelf too complicated for like someone just to walk in and grab off a bookshelf, such a dumb of downloads. So I want to make like fitness book like swearing and recomplicated. So that's that's the end of the work. But look, that's the question and what I'll be doing, will I be on YouTube in when I'm 50? Probably. I'd like, I hope so. I'd like to be. We haven't seen anyone really do that. Obviously YouTube's only been around for an amount of time So you don't have people that have been on there for forever. Yeah, you have authors who've written books Richard Dawkins wrote the Selfish gene in like the 1970s Yeah, and he's still writing books now. We wrote like a kid's atheist book a couple of years ago

So you can see this trajectory, but it will It will be fascinating that Santa's not real and night is gone Yeah, who knew the book you need to read a little factor But I am gonna be fascinated about what happens with YouTube, you know Are you gonna have people with like a 200 million sub account because they've just accrued Subbs throughout their entire life. Yeah was PewDiePie gonna be in 50 years. Oh my god, and you know what I find very interesting about if I really like YouTube channel,

so do this one, even like when you just find, or a large one, like, or whatever. Go to videos, okay? And instead of like clicking sword, most popular, or sword news, or all this, sword oldest to newest. Oh god. Very interesting. You do not do that on my channel.

Yeah, I'll like, you know what? Oh, please do it on my channel. If you want a good laugh, seriously, like it's hilarious. But you're going to a case of news side or you're Joe Rogan and you see like, they've been uploading for 10 to 12 years. Like, I'm like, I do know YouTube's in that old. Like, it's crazy.

So it'll be interesting if YouTube is around if we have an old Nuke ourselves. crazy. So it'll be interesting if YouTube is around, if we have no new clear selves. If it says like, well it doesn't really matter cause all that we're doing is working up to a robot overlords to come in. The boys. Yeah.

Once they've done it, everything becomes totally pointless in any way. Yeah, exactly, but it'll be interesting in 20 years, like it will say like, Joe Rogan whatever, like last first vlog, 35 years ago. And the only thing that's super cool

about YouTube as well is like, you can watch stages in your life in HD. Like, I think it's amazing at the same time. Like, I watched like some trips I went on in 2016-17 and I'm like I'm so glad I have this on camera. I'm so glad. And I think what's going to happen is that everyone's on Instagram, everyone uploads their trips. Everyone is going to start being a blogger and uploading like things on YouTube. I think there's going to be like an app. There already is, but they're going to be better. An app that like puts all your videos from a trick together

and makes it into a vlog. I think people are gonna upload on YouTube the same way they upload on Instagram. That's probably the reason that YouTube creators, there's so many few YouTube creators than there are users. Yeah, main reason being that the barrier to entry to make a video is significantly higher than it is.

Errors. Take a photo and just upload it to a platform like Instagram. Arras. Yeah, so actually that's a perfectly good argument that if you find a way that you can expedite and make easier and better the content to publishing process. Yeah. Like it is, you know, you've said about like I've got to vet my girlfriends to make sure they can use fucking kind of final cup. They understand what creative commons life

If that's the case then There's a lot of other people who have that challenge there. They're like right. I have some cool shit I've filmed but it just goes on your Facebook or into the Instagram story and it goes away Yes, no, I never watch you that again. It's not evergreen right? So yeah, that's that's a good moment Yeah, I think yeah a lot of people are gonna be be uploading a lot more like trips and memories to deadline and things gonna be huge so yeah to answer the question long-winded would be the world's oldest YouTuber fantastic fantastic you'll be one of those actually at one point yeah fuelcakes.com yeah Roblips on YouTube Roblips on Instagram

yeah and Roblips.com yeah Yeah, brother. Thank you so much for today. It's been awesome. Thanks so much, out of glass. Cheers. I'm Rob. Easy as that. Nice. you