Modern Wisdom - #384 - Zack Telander - The Female Orgasm, CrossFit & Vasectomies

Episode Date: October 14, 2021

Zack Telander is a weightlifter, coach & YouTuber. ZT joins me to talk about the world's most pressing issues like whether men should be forced to get vasectomies at age 40, if Jon Jones can ever find redemption, why New Zealand's football team name is problematic, why the female orgasm is so elusive, how Zack got involved in internet beef with a big Texan man, whether CrossFit has rampant steroid use and much more... Sponsors: Get 20% discount on Reebok’s entire range including the amazing Nano X1 at https://geni.us/modernwisdom (use code MW20) Reclaim your fitness and book a Free Consultation Call with ActiveLifeRX at http://bit.ly/rxwisdom Extra Stuff: Subscribe to Zack's YouTube Channel -https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC94_fvLx7abZgs9LIkM7jxw  Get Zack's Program for $1 - https://www.patreon.com/zacktelander Follow Zack on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/coach_zt Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello my friends, welcome back to the show. My guest today is Zach Talander. He's a weightlifter, coach and YouTuber. He's joining me yet again today to talk about the world's most pressing issues, things like whether men should be forced to get the sector at age 40, if John Jones can ever find redemption, why New Zealand's football team name is problematic, why the female orgasm is so elusive, how has that got involved in internet beef with a big Texan man,

where the CrossFit has rampant steroid use problems, and so much more. Not too many things to take away from today, apart from IDoug really deep into research about the female orgasm. So there is a 15-minute segment on why you or potentially your partner or previous partners have struggled to reach climax. So real life-changing insightful stuff happening today. Before I get on to other news, this Monday is the launch of the Modern Wisdom community finally on locals. It's basically like a private Facebook feed where you can post and you can connect with other people that listen to the show. I just recorded the first locals episode, the only exclusive way that you're going to be able to see this is

by being a member. I recorded that with Johnny and Eusef the other day and it is so good. It's absolutely outstanding. So that episode will be ready for you on Monday. If you join the community Monday morning, everything will go live. If you're on the mailing list, you'll find out. If you're on your Instagram, you'll find out. If you listen to the podcast, you will find out how to join and there will be a brand new 90 minute, 80 or 90 minute episode with Johnny and Yusuf and it's so funny. So yes, get ready for this. It's it's going to be amazing. I can't wait to get this released. But now it's time for the wise and wonderful Zach Talander. Thank you, boy. Welcome back.

Thanks for having me back. Sooner than we planned, man. Yeah, but it feels right. Too much to talk about. Right, so here's the first thing I want to talk about. Chris Rab from Philadelphia, he has created a bill requiring men to get the sector means by age 40. State representative Chris Rab, Philadelphia Democrat, supports a solution to law-making

men who want to control policy on women's and girls' bodies requiring men by six weeks into age 40 or after child 3 to get the sector-mese, and it's all in the name of reproductive rights for women and girls. Rab also wrote the legislation which was in a response to restrictive abortion bills around the US. I thought it was as important as a man to speak up about reproductive rights, Rab said according to WHOP TV. There are bills and laws that regulate

and restrict bodily autonomy for women and girls, but not so much for men, while the legislation is satirical, it's supposed to add conversation on reproductive rights. In the statement, RAB said, as long as the state legislature continues to restrict the reproductive rights of cis men, cis women trans men and non-binary people, there should be laws to address the responsibility of men who impregnate them. That's obviously beside the law of having to look after the child and pay child support for the first 18 years of its life. My sincere hope in introducing this legislation is that my colleagues in the General Assembly consider the egregiously gendered double standard when it comes to curtailing reproductive health care as it applies to women

Republicans reportedly responded with abortion and vasectomy is not being equal issues and argued the bill conversation won't get very far. What do you think about that? So the main thing that I heard from and what I want to talk about is the satirical aspect of it. So it was knowingly satirical, right? When he did it, so he himself knows that it's not, ever gonna get past and it's not real. So what I'm wondering is what is the efficacy of an extreme satirical play like that to get conversation started? Ultimately, to get people thinking about the other side of it, which is the abortion

laws that are being passed. It's very interesting. Obviously, it's ridiculous. He even knows it's ridiculous. That's what I'm wondering is how effective is satire in bringing about conversation. I would say it's decently effective, right? You have, but what's talking about it? Yeah, exactly. And what sort of effect will it have on the actual lawmakers and the people in power who can make a difference and make changes?

I don't know if I want the people that represent me in government to be wasting time and money doing shit like this, though. That just... Yeah, no, I'm... Is that the satire, no matter how fucking effective it is, it needs to be unbelievably effective, because he's put a bill in. I don't... I have no idea what that means. Yeah, it's waste of time. Yeah. But he's created a bill, and it's actually been put out into the world. Is there not more important things to do? Your country's fucked. Like the government and the politicians in your country.

I mean, a fucked. It's a guy is basically trolling it like the elite left. Professional trolling, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'd rather, you know, tax dollars go elsewhere for sure, for sure than that. And that it's insane. But here we are talking about it.

Yeah, fair point. I also, I don't know. I feel like trying to further restrict in response to a restriction is just a bad, it's not a tremendously good way to try and even the scales, right? If you have a problem with a particular law, let's say it's restrictions on voter ID, you don't then try and restrict something else to even the scales. You try to reduce the restriction that you've got a problem with. And the same thing goes with

abortion law. Like, if you're bothered about the restrictions on abortions, then you can fight that. But trying to create something that sits on the opposite side of the fence, it makes it too easy. If you genuinely cared, I think there would have been a smart way to go about this. Because it's not, it's not the same. It's not equivalent. It would be the same as a woman getting her tubes tied, which, right, isn't the same as an abortion.

Yeah, that doesn't match up for me at all, really, restricting someone's ability to reproduce. And then the other one is, you know, the person has already reproduced. Yeah, and then you're taking a life, which is what the people that a pro-life are arguing. That bit about there should be laws to address the responsibility of men who impregnate women. It's like, what do you mean? Like, they're already are.

Yeah, there's, um, you have to pay for the child's support. There's child support. Yeah, for a very long time. That already exists. Anyway, that's, that's what I've been thinking about this week. Yeah, that's, that's incredibly odd. It sounds like it would be a headline to an onion article. Right? Wouldn't it be, I mean, like, I honestly, when you brought it up, I've never heard of this, but when you brought it up, I thought it was like a population control type of play, like trying to have it for quite a while.

Yeah, you know, so. Fuck it. What you've been thinking about? Well, I've been thinking about John Jones. He's gotten in trouble again. This time he was abusing his wife. He's got, for those who are listening, you don't know who John Jones is. Maybe you don't know Marshall Arts.

He's considered one of the best Marshall artists, like really of all time, which is crazy. He's in the UFC, hasn't been active in a long time, and he's a very, very troubled individual. And he just recently was elected, or not elected, Hall of Fame, right? He was inducted, yes. Inducted into the Hall of Fame for one of his fights.

I can't remember which would you know off, it was the one with Gustasin. Okay, so he had just gotten his award. He went back to the hotel, told his wife that, yeah, Invegas, of course. That actually really matters in this one. Okay, so Invegas told his wife, hey, I'm gonna go out, I'm taking $10,000, I Vegas. Of course, that actually really matters in this one. Okay, so in Vegas, told his wife, hey, I'm gonna go out, I'm taking $10,000,

I'm gonna go out. Comes back, they get in an argument at like five in the morning, he hits her, she goes down to the lobby, the security guard notices the blood on her face. Cause she asks to change the room. Right, it was a cry for help. It was, well, she, that's actually true. She didn't wanna go back to the room with him. I was a cry for help. It was a, well, she, that's actually true. She,

she didn't want to go back to the room with him. I think she wanted a different, or wait, did she want to lock him out? I think she wanted to lock him out. So by changing the room key, he wouldn't have been able to get back in. And she went down and the one of the daughters was there with her. Yes. And I think, you know, that also could have been like, hey, I'm in trouble, I'm scared type of thing. Also, right? You can use it. The wife said, can we just get a new room key and the guy mentioned, do you need any assistance? And she kind of said no, but she also said that she didn't want to go back up.

And then it was the daughter. The daughter was the one that said, can you call the police? Right. Yes. Yes. Fucked. I know. That was, I think that was the, the chill video that you sent me. That was the, the, the part that really makes the head on the back of your neck, Thunder.

Yeah. Your own daughter is calling the police on you to stop you from hitting her mother. Yeah, so crazy. So he's a very, very, very troubled man and we can talk about like, you know, what he should do or shouldn't do or what should happen. But something that's very interesting to me is this was something that Daniel Cormier, who's now, you know, an analyst and, you know, just a figurehead at the UFC. He was a heavyweight champion or super heavyweight champion in the UFC. I don't know.

He defended it a couple times. He lost the belt, got it back. But he had a few fights with John Jones and one of the things that he said in his interview, he ended up kind of predicting the future. And I'll just play the clip, I'll play the audio here. I want to hear my reaction. He doesn't want to hear my reaction because I will tell him some sober and true. Please.

Sober and truth is his history dictates and determines that the same thing's gonna happen. That is his character, that is him at his core. I look at that young lady, the pure lady, that's on his team now, and I see in her eyes. She knows she's fighting a losing battle. I look at his coaches. I see that these guys know that this kid will not change.

He will not change, he's the same guy. He's rotten at his core and he will continue to. Don't you think that people can learn from their mistakes? Mistakes? Mistakes. You don't constantly make mistakes. No. You make mistakes, but you don't do them over and over and over and over. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I see. You don't do that. I see. If you know what, a mistake, when you make a mistake, a change, you try to make yourself better. That's the same. And there's that many times we've heard this speech, Johnston. Pretty unbelievable.

That gave me the chills. So that was I believe two years ago. And John had already been in a lot of trouble. And DC says he's rotten at his core and he is bound to repeat history. We'll repeat it itself with this man. And look at what we're doing. We're talking about this. I thought that that was the most effective. Like I have not seen something like that. That would, to me, that was chilling. And what I wanted to talk about with you, Chris, is what? Well, I guess first, let's talk about redemption for someone like John Jones.

And my theory is that he has to almost... He has to let go of his identity completely. He has to do penance, you know, whatever that is, if he has to go to jail, whatever that is, you know. If that's monetary. But he has to lose his identity as a fighter and as a party goer and has to change his his life entirely in order to recover from this. And, you know, this type of behavior for someone in the real world, someone who doesn't have the money that John Jones does, doesn't have the fame and notoriety that John Jones does,

this type of behavior leads to jail time, leads to death, leads to other people being in him. He was some normal black man out in the world of America. He's fucked. Oh, a hundred percent. So my thing is this is like if he is to move on from this it has to be a complete and utter spiritual and mental psychological change from where he has to go from there. The second So the second part I want to talk about is what determines whether someone is a good man or a bad man based on their actions. How many actions does it take?

Is redemption possible all the time? Does redemption become harder to get the more you fuck up? And that's what I'm curious about. become harder to get the more you fuck up. And that's what I'm curious about. Someone like John Jones is like, I, even though this position that he's in right now, even though I still like to think that there's a potential for redemption,

at least within himself. How old's John Jones? I'm not entirely sure. Has 34. 34. 34. 34. Bro, there is no time for him to turn his life around and come back.

How many chances have this guy been given? Did he get, he got popped for some sort of PEDs? Like, if you want to tick off all of the big things that you shouldn't do as an athlete, whether it be pre-recreational drugs, whether it be performance enhancing drugs, whether it be getting into misdemeanors, he hit a pregnant woman in his car,

he shot a gun outside of the window of one of his cars, he was belligerent to the police. When he got arrested this time, after this incident with his misses, and he had the cuffs on behind his back, apparently turned to the four police officers and said, I'd love to see if you for like, Pussy's could take me on your own.

If you and did these handcuffs, I've just been inducted into the Hall of Fame. Then he headbutted the police car, so he's now got to pay for the damages to the police car. So like, the guards at that. So no one has. But I'm saying, of course, what I'm saying is though is like that whole being a fighter thing's gone.

Like in my opinion, to come back maybe. I mean, who knows? In this weird world we live in, you know, like, OJ Simpson is one step away from getting a celebrity boxing match. Like that's how fucking weird this world is. Is he? Okay. I don't know.

You know, it's like, you never know what can happen. You know what I'm saying though, right? Like Jake Paul, Logan Paul, all this stuff, they're headliner, they're big martial artists now. Like it's crazy. I was thinking more along the lines of like, John Jones just disappears. Just disappears out of the limelight

and changes who he is in order to survive in this world. As far as the US think of that. That's already happened. So people mentioned this. They said a few years ago, John Jones could laud it over people like Danny, because one of the reasons that he said he wasn't going to come back is because he wanted to get paid

a million dollars for a fight. And the UFC don't seem to be quite good with fight to pay. That's a big criticism that they often get. So John said, I'm going to wait because I can hold out because I can negotiate. He forgets, man, this sport moves so fast. Don't fucking need John Jones anymore. The sport doesn't need him. They haven't needed him in the heavyweight division for a long time. And he continues to fuck up and continues to be out of the game. So I don't see where his leverage comes from with regards to that. I don't think that people care. I don't think the UFC need him. I don't think the world need him.

Like if you're not going to be a good athlete, what you can be is a good ambassador or a good role model for people to look up to young kids. You know, let's say the Cormier's the world. Yeah, Cowboys surround is another. Yeah, or fucking Kabeeb. The guy retired at the peak of his career. So he's no longer an athlete in the MMA, in the UFC, but he can be a really good ambassador for people to look up to. John Jones has fucked both of those things. He's no longer an athlete.

And he's not a role model for people to look up to. I don't want my future kids to be looking up to John Jones as the sort of athlete that they should try and aspire to be. I've fucked that. So yeah, in terms of that, correct? And then in terms of how much redemption you need, how much you would need to do to undo all of the bad work. I don't think anyone can... I would always try and give somebody the opportunity to try and achieve redemption.

I don't think that anybody can be a lost cause apart from like psychopaths and people that are in prison and rapists and stuff like that. And yes, and that's what I mean is like, I think a lot of times people want redemption fast because that's how the world works now, right? It's like, I want to be back in the limelight, but I want to be in your good, on your good side. And what's missing there is the penance, what's missing there is the shame. And given what, given John Jones has passed that shame and that penance, that has to take years. I mean, I would say this Chris as much as you would say there's no possible way this man could redeem himself. What about 10 years from now? You know, what does written years from now? I don't, I'm

not entirely sure and that's why it's interesting to me I like to talk about things like this because these are things that are almost outside of the scope of human nature is like long term feelings about someone else. I have this feeling that. People want to be on the winning side. So for instance, if if you fuck up, I want to naturally be on your side outside of being my friend, someone I care about, I want you to be on top of whatever that is. I want you to come out on the on the good side of that because because I want to be a winner too. You know, it's like, and that's not like a, it sounds very self-indulging, but I'm not trying to be.

It's like, I think people want redemption. I think people want kind of, you mean, they want people to achieve redemption. I think so. I think so. You're maybe right, man, but there's only so many times that you can... Of course. Let that happen. The cheating boyfriend in the relationship, the wife might be able to take him back the

first time or the second time or whatever, but after five times, you go, this isn't a misdemeanor that requires redemption. This is an inbuilt part of your nature. This is just you. And here's another thing. I think that where you're coming at this from is maybe the same as me, which is an inherent belief that people are good, an inherent hope that people

are here to try and be good people, like to contribute to society in a way that's fucking constructive and leave the world in a better place than they found it. I think we need to concede that there are some people out there who don't do that. Like there are some people who simply, if you leave them in the world for long enough, they're going to continue to make it a worse and worse and worse place. Yeah, and like the crazy thing about all of this is like this position that I'm playing right now, it's just a position that I'm curious about. I'm thinking through it. This is not how, you know what I mean?

And I just want the listeners and viewers to kind of understand that. I like to think about things from a lens that I may not think about in real life, when it happens. I've been fucked over, you've been fucked over. I'm sure both of us have fucked over some people, and they have every right, and they have every right and you have every right

and I have every right to move on from that person. But I still like to think about the potential for someone to make some sort of a comeback. And you know, this is just a thought because like Jesus, John Jones really has fucked up the most of anyone in his sport that I could even think of. Here's a question for you. Is it still acceptable to call John Jones the goat when he behaves privately in the way that we've seen?

Can you separate the art and the artist? No, I never called him that. And basically because of that. So you think that you know, Joe Rogan had no. It's it's very weird now. We're talking about morality and ability. All right. So fighting talent in the in the octagon is either great as the bull time. Well, I don't I don't know. Possibly. Who's possibly? It would be between him, I think, Kabeeb. We're looking at Valentina Chevchenko, who doesn't seem like she's going to lose anytime

soon. Who else would be on that list? A lot of it has to do with title defenses, I think. That's one of the criticisms that Kabeeb gets, right? But who did fight that he did a title defense against that was actually world class? Whereas John Jones pretty much everyone that he did a title defense against was world class. Yeah. Right. And then also, Conor McRigger didn't have many title defenses. Did he have any?

None, right? I think that was his main criticism too. But yeah, I don't know. It was just very, very strange. And the whole thing is eerie, dude. It's just like something needs to change. Like what would you do if you were John's friend? If he has any friends, I don't even...

I think I would have given up by now. Yeah. I think that I get quite personally invested in my friends and in their well-being. Right. And after a while, it depends how long. If you've only just become friends with him this week, then maybe you've got a bit of tolerance left in the tank. But yeah, I would have...

Right. There's only so far that you can try and take people and it's like, look man, this is your shit. I would have tried to have an intervention, I would have tried to sit down with them, I'd have tried to do whatever. It seems very much like he's hugely narcissistic, like he has very little empathy for other people. Oh, of course.

Yeah. And with all of those things piled together, it's like, look man, this is your fucking problem. If you're big enough to hit a woman, you're big enough to get yourself out of all of these messes that you got yourself into. So, yeah. Anyway, here's one for you. Here's another one. So, New Zealand is divided over the all-white name change. You seen this? No. A heated debate is raging in New Zealand after the country's football governing body said it was considering changing the nickname of the men's national team. New Zealand football has revealed that the all-white name could be changed in order to avoid racist connotations.

The sports governing body has confirmed that it was reviewing the name, setting the scene for arguments between the old school traditionalists and those who value inclusivity. Many New Zealand sports sporting sides have color-based nicknames, the men's cricket side, and the black caps, the men's basketball side, and the tall blacks, however, non-rankle like the all-whites, which can be read, to mean excluding other ethnicities. The question of the name change comes as many New Zealand organisations adopt names and identities that incorporate Maori culture and language. The police chief, sorry, they can police you. Football chief said that the sporting body was on a journey around cultural inclusivity.

We are working on a process with stakeholders across the game as well as people from outside football looking at all areas of the organization to make sure they are fit for purpose in 2021 and beyond. One of New Zealand's greatest ever players, Winton Rufa, a proud Maori man and a member of the 1982 team that they got their name from said changing the all-white's name was quote, absolute madness. The all-black's brand is iconic and this is no different.

Okay, so this is the first time I've ever heard of the name, the all-white's. Me too. I don't think New say Linda particularly good at football Right, so that's what I was like the all whites what I know the all blacks because they're Legendary literally one of the greatest dynasties in all of sport You know there's been a lot of changes in America with American football With many other teams in their logos. And it's just kind of red skins and stuff. Did not.

Yeah, the red skins now, I don't know what they're, this is pathetic, but I think they're just like the Washington football team or something like that. I swear I miss name ever. Yeah, and then, you know, the Indians had that old logo, which was like the smiling name of American guy. The newest name is the Washington football team. Yeah, is that what it is?

Did you just watch? The Washington football team. Yep. So then it also was the bullets. They were changed. That was changed in, maybe the late 90s, 2000 maybe. What did that originally mean?

The bullets. It was the Washington bullets. And it was just a bullet logo. It was cool. It was with that. Good and crime. Violence. Crime. Violence. Okay. So then now they're the Washington Wizards. It's a basketball team.

There's plenty of different things like that. And I don't know. It can be argued both ways. A red skin is pretty tough, man. It's hard to, you know, that is a slang term. That is a slang term. That's a derogatory term. But it depends, you know, who are you offending and are they offended? And that's the real question. The question would be whether or not an all whites versus an all blacks and a black

caps and a tall blacks. Like that's, this is the theme that New Zealand have going between all of their different sports teams. All blacks is the rugby and the all. If you change one, you gotta change them all, right? Well, no, if that's logic. There's an inherent punching up versus punching down, like perspective that's being used

that somehow all blacks is inclusive but all whites isn't. And I don't know, that somehow all blacks is inclusive, but all whites isn't. And I don't know, man, it just feels like, can we not try to keep race dynamics out of sport as much as possible? I'm aware that sport is a good opportunity to display to people like, look, this is a very diverse team that we have on the field. And this is a young working class Asian guy,

white guy, black guy, whatever guy that comes up through the ranks and you can be like that person. Like individual players and their teams at large are awesome role models for young kids and for older people as well. But like when you've got an entire country's set of sporting teams named after the tall blacks

and the black caps and the all blacks, like the all whites being the one that gets singled out, it sounds like men over the edge of 40 should be getting the sector means. It just sounds like that again. It's as ridiculous in your mind. Maybe not quite, but it's obviously stupid. Like to do that highlights an asymmetry. Right. Yeah. No, I mean, that's what I was saying is if they determine that one is bad, they have to determine all of them are bad,

because they're all along the same line. Right? All of the all whites, the tall blacks, the blacks, you know, it's what is very short blacks. What about people that are short? What sport would they be playing? I don't know. What is short people good at? Wrestling, I think. Okay. Yeah. So that could be a short black or the short whites. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, that's the first time I've ever heard of the all whites. Well, now you've heard of it.

What do you think about NFTs? Don't know enough about them and have not. I don't know anything. Me neither. Everyone seems to be talking about them. Everyone's doing them. Do you know anything about them? Because that'll be more than me.

I kind of understand that it's a way to create individual pieces of typically artwork on the internet that can be owned and licensed by a person. So it would be the equivalent of you buying a piece of art in the real world or a particular file. Typically, these are illustrations or images or a particular file, typically these are illustrations or images, and people purchase them. But you are a verified owner, and you can limit the number that there are, and you use smart contracts and the blockchain and stuff to be able to go through. Whoa. So it's mainly around art. At the moment, it seems like that's what it's mostly being used for, but people can do it with anything.

Right, because so you're buying the rights to the art, buying the rights to the sale of the art then? Kind of, because digitally, the physical presence of the art can be everywhere, right? Like I can have a screenshot of it, you can have a screenshot of it, but in the NFT non-fungible tokens world, only one person can actually own the piece of art, which is licensed via a smart contract through the blockchain. Okay. So, it's a way for digital artists to make their money, but it's the same.

Here's the thing, right? I would love to know how many people that adore NFTs love the platform and the technology and how many of them love the fact that they can make tons of money off it. We spoke about this last time about making money. Yeah. Do you love the fact that people in war-tongued countries can send money back to their grandmaw without the state overreach stopping them from doing it?

Or do you like the fact that it doubles every couple of years? Yeah, it's the latter. It's the latter of the two every single time. And the beauty of it is that it's guilt free for right now at least, right? Why is it guilt free? Well, because I don't think anyone's really calling people out for doing something selfish as just playing this weird money game and making money out of it. You got called out by Mom of the Moustache.

Oh, Mark Ripetel. Yeah. Well, okay, so do we wanna dive into this? I wanna know about the Mom of the Moustache. Okay, so this is for people listening, this is a, it's almost a silly kind of internet beef, but we'll dive into it because it does get a little bit interesting. It starts off about a year kind of internet beef, but we'll dive into it because it does get a little bit interesting.

It starts off about a year and a half ago, my profession, my expertise is in the sport of Olympic weightlifting. So a year and a half ago, this guy named Mark Ripetzoe, he's the creator of Starting Strength, and his book is reached almost a million copies sold. It is like, you know, a guideline to barbell training to get stronger. And, you know, I think at the timing of which

he came out with the book and started to build his YouTube channel and content, it was It was timed very, very well. We are now in an era where there's a lot more people with good, if not better information, than starting strength. But he was one of the originals and he got people stronger and that's very important to understand. He was talking about Olympic weightlifting in one of his podcasts a year and a half ago and he he kept uttering the same thing that he always talks about throughout this and it's that weightlifting coaches or powerlifting coaches they don't know what they're talking about and there's always this idea there's always this

feeling that yes he's trying to get beginner stronger. He will outwardly say, I don't care about professional athletes. I don't care about elite performance, but at the same time, he will say those who are coaching elite performance or those who are doing things elitely, they don't know what they're doing. And so he said that about weightlifting and I ended up writing a comment. And then he did a comments from the haters. That's one of his segments.

And he said my comment or he read it out loud. So a year later, I'm like, you know what? I forgot about this thing. I made a video and it kind of exploded a little bit. Basically talking about the things that Mark Ripeto had said that I disagreed with. Then he made another clip which was very egregious where he laid out almost exactly what I had issues with, word for word,

in a very just very clear cut way. And so all I did was then make another video and disagree with it. What he said precisely, okay, so there's a man named Lashitalhadza just performed the greatest snatch of all time. The snatch is moving the barbell from the floor to overhead. He did it with 223 kilograms. This man has broken the world record, which has been his own, God knows how many times. Okay, I believe the world record when he started was 217 and he's the one who's broken it six times now. Okay, this is the, this is the simply the greatest snatch ever.

Mark Ripett's also said, well, you know, his technique could have been better from our standpoint, but it doesn't matter because the snatch is 50% of your deadlift and, and technique doesn't matter. Those are the words directly out of his mouth. Then later he says, later he says, the reason why some of these old records haven't been broken is because weightlifting coaches don't know what they're talking about from a technical and a training standpoint. So for those of you listening, both of those things couldn't be more clear cut contextual evidence as to what I disagree with wholeheartedly. Okay, so I made another video and boom, he sees this makes another video retorting me calling me a fucking child.

So this time he just goes off a fucking child. My viewers, he said are fucking idiots. He said, I've sold one million books. What have you done? I've gotten more people strong than you. I've invented all of this different stuff. So at this point the saga is over because his comment section is just attacking him. You know what I mean? It's one of those things where we could have kept this stupid internet beef going on and

on and on, but I just let him kind of defeat himself, which is the best way. What is men's health right now? Right. So that's where this gets even more ridiculous. Men's health, okay? So for everyone listening, that, everything I just said doesn't mean anything to you, right? But if men's health starts to pick up this,

maybe it will, okay? If men's health is a proper publication, it's not just some random YouTube channel. I see that men's health is doing a report on this beef. However, they refuse to use my name, both men's health and Mark Ribato refused to use my name because they feel as though I'm going to gain clout from this. And this is exactly what I want. Right. That's another one of their arguments. It's like, they just want clicks. That's why they're going after us. It's like no, actually, I just disagree with you and I already get more clicks than you. I get more views. I get more clicks than you. That video, which you called me out,

has the most clicks of any of your videos in the past six months. Because it was about myself and my viewers went to your channel. But that's it. that's the whole story. It was just hilarious to wake up one morning and see men's health was covering this fucking internet beef about a weightlifting coach and some random old strength coach. What was that comment where someone said,

what's all of this weightlifting stuff doing on my white supremacy channel? So like, so Mark Ripeto is like the most Texas old, just like hard man. Okay, he's got a great accent. He says things like, why? Right? Instead of why, he says, why and what type of stuff. So he kind of has his own like little meme lords which I really respect like this

own meta content people but he's more of like a libertarian obviously right leaning and someone commented it was like what is all this weightlifting pussy shit doing on my libertarian, like, right leaning militia podcast. And I thought that shit was so funny, man. I thought that was so funny. But yeah, that's what I've been involved in. And the thing is, like, the thing is you, you and I talked about this. I had men's health covering it, right? And you were like, dude, you're sitting on a, a pot of gold here. You have to go and make a video. Yeah, after you said that, though, I went and checked on his video and all the comments were like negative, taking my side. So I was like, you know what, I kind of this did the job for me. Just don't need to. Yeah. How noble of you.

See, John, Jones could learn the thing or two from you. Just fucking let it go, John. Right. Do you want to learn about orgasms? Yes. Yes. Boy, do I ever? I thought you'd never ask.

Me too. So, I looked at a study accounting for women's orgasms and sexual enjoyment in college hookups and relationships. So, this looked at, investigated the determinants of orgasm and sexual enjoyment in college hookups and relationships. So this looked at, investigated the determinants of orgasm and sexual enjoyment in hookup and relationship sex. Among heterosexual, college women and seeks to explain why relationships sex is better for women in terms of orgasm and sexual enjoyment. We found that women have orgasms more often in relationships than in hookups, regression

analysis, reveal that specific sexual practices, experience with a particular partner and commitment all predict women's orgasm and sexual enjoyment, the presence of more sexual practice conducive to women's orgasm in relationship sex explains some of why orgasm is more common in relationships. There is also a double standard contributing to why relationship sex is better for women. Both men and women question women's but not men's entitlement to pleasure in hookups but believe strongly in women's as well as men's entitlement to pleasure in relationship. More attention is thus given to producing female orgasm in relationships but not in hookups. And here's the stats. So if you've had no prior hookups with this partner, 11% orgasm, one or two prior hookups with this partner, 16% orgasm, three plus prior hookups,

34% and six plus months of a relationship, 67%. Yeah, and I almost know the reason why it's like when you are first getting into some sort of relationship, whether it be physical, whether you have the intention of going further, there is the... You have to kind of hide your cards. You have to... That's a guy. Both women and men.

And the discussion around sex is still a mystery. It's like, you kind of have this thing where, if you're gonna hook up with someone, you're like, oh man, I still have to like, make this move at this time. And I can't just outwardly say, okay, so now we're gonna have sex now. Can you tell me exactly what pleasures you?

And can you, you know what I mean? Like that's not the level of discussion, but as you get into relationship, you're damn near shitting in front of your girlfriend, right, and your girlfriend is, you know, doing everything, like, you got, there's no filter. So at that point, she can be like, hey, you know, do this exact thing, and we're both gonna have a party in here.

It's gonna be great. Yeah. To me, that seems like the only logical reason. Yeah, so it said the, the presence of more sexual practice, conducive experience with a particular partner, a commitment as well as another one. So I wanted to dig into this more. So I read that. I was like, this is pretty interesting. So I want to find out what causes women to enjoy sex more, again, from this very rigorous, bro science study

sex more, again, from this very rigorous brochine study that I've been doing. And what got me onto it was I was chatting to a bisexual girl actually who's just come out of a relationship with her first relationship with a girl. And she said to me, making a girl orgasm feels like quite an achievement. I can see why men enjoy it. But what that highlighted was that for girls, making a man come is just like,

well, it's gonna happen. Like, if I just keep pumping away, it's gonna happen. Just keep pumping, you know? And then it happens in the end. Whereas with a girl, there's more intricacies going on. Right. So, this is fucking fascinating, man. The influence of types of stimulation and attitudes

to clitoral self-stimulation on female sexual and orgasm satisfaction across sectional study. So long and short of it is that girls on the whole see any type of orgasm that involves using the clitoris as a second standard. It's like a second-class quality for it, which is pretty crazy. So whether women experience orgasms depends mainly on the type of sexual activity. Direct stimulation of the clitoris improves the regularity of experienced orgasms called orgasm consistency and orgasm quality. During sexual intercourse, without direct clitoral stimulation, only about one-third of females experience an orgasm quality. During sexual intercourse, without direct, clitoral stimulation, only about one-third of females experience an orgasm in contrast during masturbation, 59% of women usually experience an orgasm, blah, blah, blah, blah,

forward and back, forward and back. Women who orgasm more frequently reported a higher awareness of their bodily sensations, more erotic fantasies during intercourse, more variation in their sexual behavior and higher emotional intimacy. So emotional intimacy comes back to the relationship thing again. Many women who have difficulties experiencing an orgasm report psychological strain and low satisfaction with their sexual relationship, a low orgasm frequency is related to cognitive distraction, i.e. automatic thoughts, suppression of erotic thoughts, pressure to perform, and sexual myths. So overall here, it says that orgasm consistency through sexual intercourse had a stronger influence on orgasm satisfaction and sexual satisfaction than orgasm consistency through

oral sex, stimulation by the partner's hand or self stimulation. This is surprising, since many women even describe an orgasm as more pleasurable when stimulated directly by the clitoris and female orgasms least likely to be caused by this type of stimulation. Although there is no biological difference between a vaginal and a clitoral orgasm, many women seem to desire orgasms through purely vaginal penetration. The results indicate that the common misconception about sexuality, that it is normal for women to experience orgasms during penile vaginal intercourse, influences the subjective evaluation of one's own sexuality. Orgasms from clitoral stimulation seem to have a second-class quality for some women, although there is no evidence that these orgasms feel less pleasurable.

Right, because it would seem as though the clitorial stimulation is almost like a hack. Right? It's like you get your vibrator, you go right for it, you have the images in your brain or you watch porn, it just, you get it done. And if they can kind of teleport themselves to wherever they need to be, while sex is happening and they get clitorial stimulation. They can almost do exactly the same thing that they were doing during masturbation. But the purely, is it vaginal? Yeah, purely vaginal one would mean that their connection with whomever it is that they're

hooking up with was so strong that it didn't require that. You can't walk your way out of it, yeah. And I think that what was really fucking interesting was the talk about cognitive distraction, automatic thoughts, suppression of erotic thoughts, pressure to perform and sexual myths. So the biggest restriction to girls coming during sex, restriction to girls coming during sex purely through penetrative sex is their own mind. Yes, yes. And part of it is the, you know, all of the things you listed above, it's kind of the trickle-down effect.

It's vulnerability at the end of the day, right? I mean, it's, why would I open myself up completely, carnally, like everything to this person, if they're going to leave me, right? It's, it's like, that's almost what it requires to have that level of an orgasm. And for women who like, and again, this is, I'm speaking of someone who's like sure of themselves, right? But I'm a fucking bro. And like, like trust is, I'm also speaking of someone who's like sure of themselves, right? But I'm a fucking bro. And like, trust me, I'm aware. But I'm working through this because this is a very interesting, you know, and it also takes,

it takes experience on both ends like I've had my experience and frustrations and successes. But what I, what I can ultimately say is that I wonder where masturbation for women plays into all of this, because I know for a fact that masturbation on the men's side, what with using with the use of porn and like your own hand, that can affect your sexual stimulation. And there's been actually a lot, there's this huge meta-analysis that I wanna show you. I don't, I obviously was not prepared for this discussion, but there's a huge meta-analysis talking about porn and its effects on male stimulation,

in order to, like, the inability to have an erection, sustain an erection, expectation, and then how it affects the relationship. So it can cause relationship breakups, it can cause divorce, it can be a catalyst to cause breakups, it can be a catalyst to cause divorce, and I wonder the female side of that, right? Cause I, when I end up trying to get close with a female,

I actually ask them these things about masturbation, about these things. Since it's like, one, I'm curious. And two, it's like, I, I can't judge. I'm not gonna judge you. You know what I mean? It's not, we are, we live in a different time where, you know, back in the 50s, 60s, 70s,

like no one talks about masturbation. No one talks about sex. I wanna get there. I wanna know about how asking a girl, her masturbation technique intricacies. How it comes about? On a first day, I wanna know how that goes, yeah. Not on the first day.

How many dates do you need to go? How many dates do you need to go? Look, I've gotten it on the first day to talk about it, you know, because it's like, I'm open about whatever. It's hard for them, you know, I don't want to make the person uncomfortable. So the conversation is- The first place I go to, masturbation. Yeah, no, no, no.

The conversation I go to is following their lead, right? I'm not going to push any further because there's nothing I hate more than like making the person sitting across me feel awkward. And that you have to build that trust over conversation, obviously, and more likely than not. On a first date, you're gonna end up talking about relationships. Are you not?

What, you know, because you wanna know about the person, who, you know, who have you dated, what was wrong with it? What was, what did you do wrong? What did they do wrong? What do you like what don't you like and it if you're not talking about sex at that point? Right at some point you have to start talking about sex if you talk about sex you talk about People not being good at sex or you talk about people being good at sex what they did that was good and then masturbation habits end up having to be discussed, right? I just kind of,

bro science walked you through exactly how that is. That's why you're doing it. Okay, so I think bro science time, I think that the pressure to perform in the sexual myths, which are two of the four reasons for low orgasm frequency according to this study, pressure to perform comes from what they predict the partner expects from them.

And because of how much porn is around, I think that that probably will have made girls believe that they need to act in a certain way. I have seen some studies saying that more men and women believe that anal sex should happen because it just happens in porn. So therefore, it porn is a representation of intimacy that happens in the normal world. And then the sexual myths thing is about the fact that in most porn, it looks like girls do orgasm through sex. So the girl themselves

feels, oh, well, this myth is part of me. Now, I don't know how much of a myth thing it is because when it's self-created through the girls on rumination and automatic thoughts and suppression and blah, blah, blah, that's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's like the thing that you want to have happen, you're stopping it from happening because of how badly you wanted to happen. It's a pretty uncomfortable situation. That's essentially what's the one thing that men face is ability to get it up, and then the thought process of trying to get it up makes it worse.

Don't think about it. Babe, don't think about it. It will just happen. Okay, you don't want me to think about it now. Now it worse. Don't think about it. Babe, don't think about it, it will just happen. Okay, you don't want me to think about it now, now. Not sure what I can do is think about it. Yeah, right? So it's kind of the same thing. If a woman wants to have an orgasm and like, you know, that's all they're thinking about

and then they think, oh, crap, well, it's not happening. I'm not doing it right. Is it happening right? Is it enjoying it? Am I enjoying it? Should I be doing this? Yes, yes. That's such a good analogy.

Yeah. I mean, I saw, I think it was someone on Rogan a while back, but this guy was saying, you know, there's a mixture of drugs you can take to where you just let go of everything. And it's like, I think it's, would it be called oxytocin? I know that oxytocin is what's released. I know that, but is there like a form of that? I'm not sure. Was this for women or for guys? This was someone on Rogan's podcast was like,

yo, I've got this combination and you gotta try it. And it was like, for sex. Something and ketamine. Like a very, yes, for sex. A very mild dose of ketamine and a very mild dose of like oxytocin or something like that Oh, and then yeah, he was also saying you can rub something directly on your dick. This sounds like Ben Greenfield This sounds like very very Ben Greenfield. Okay, it could it could have honestly been him

I don't remember but I remember the comments being like yo this guy is fucking insane First suggesting first suggesting people going out of their way to get some ketamine from like some random motherfucker, you know, by the way, all of these drugs are illegal, you know, but drugs are well discussed on Rogan. But I, it's one of those things. Take yourself out of your brain and be present. It's very important. There's a limit though. There's a limit to taking yourself out of your brain. If I even have ketamine, I'm not on the same planet anymore. You know, I'm a bit... Bro, I'm trying to get out into the astral plane, right? That's what I am.

I'm trying to get out and look, be above the bed while we're fucking. I'm gonna... You know, like in that movie with, you just get shoved into the astral plane. I'm trying to do some Benedict Cumberbatch was trying to get all of his skills so that he could have sex in the astral plane. Yes, exactly, yes. I'm glad we're in agreement.

Yeah. One thing I wanna talk about, and actually dude, I could talk about that stuff all day so That was a very interesting, but one thing I want to talk about my friend Ian Ian Daniel we know him as Ian the rhino He's a he's a very strong dude power lifter. He has a background in CrossFit so he went to the CrossFit games twice as a team athlete And he went to like legit games. It wasn't like early on. These were very hard to qualify. He's a very

very you know accomplished individual. And let's see, I'm going to pull up the quote here because this is really interesting. Where are we at? Christopher Lamson, there we go. And CrossFit Games posted a picture of a woman athlete, and I gotta find out what her name is, Vicki Caruso. And in this picture, she honestly looks like single digit body fat. On top of that, she has to perform these athletic feats and these feats of strength.

So she did a 280 pound clean, which is a little bit under 130 kilos for a female that is insane. Okay. For an average gym going male, that's as high as you're going to get. Okay. And she has single-digit body fat. She has unbelievable leg veins, ab definition, and she has, you know, it just doesn't seem legit. And the post that CrossFit Games posted, it was kind of like a repost. I want to pull it up because the reason I bring Ian up is that they took his comment down and his comment was the highest rated. It had the most comments and it was about the drug use and the PEDU D use in a sport like CrossFit. Zach's camera has run out of battery so you know looking at him with a

green screen fully behind him. All right what was this? What was a comment? I can't even find. I can't even find the original post because they posted so many times, or they might have, oh, here it is, right here. So this is what Vicki Coruso had said.

Naturally, the steroid comments come out. These comments don't even bother me anymore. I've been hearing about that stuff since I was 10 years old. Really? You've been hearing about steroid abuse since you were 10 years old. There's no way. And my legs were more defined than most professional bodybuilders. And then all throughout running track in college, I was randomly chosen for drug tests.

It doesn't bother me because I had nothing to hide and I still don't. Anyone who knows me knows that I'm a huge advocate for more drug testing. What bothers me is the fact that when people see someone do something and they can't do, especially in the world of fitness, they automatically assume they're taking something. I follow a fellow, I follow a lot of fellow athletes and every time I see someone hit a big lift or do something impressive, I'm happy for them. I have never once thought, oh, they're juicing because they're doing something I can't. If it comes out a couple months later that they were on, that they were on, then jokes

on me. But until then, let's start celebrating people's successes. We need to be positive and supportive of each other and stop comparing people. Okay, so if you look at this woman's profile and you should definitely flash some of these pictures on screen, there is some crazy definition, stuff that you would see on bodybuilders.

And it is possible. It is absolutely possible to diet down and get everything perfectly. If you are genetically capable of having that level of definition and vascularity, it is possible for her to do that single thing naturally. Now, is it possible for her to do that and clean 130 kilos? I would say no. And it would point me in the direction of saying no. So this is where my friend Ian says this, the idea that CrossFit is a natural sport at the most elite levels is literally

the biggest non-truth told to its audience. That is, this is coming from a previous two times game competitor. I'm tired of it. It's disingenuous to sell that idea to Jen Pop. The use of peptides and fast clearing steroid hormones is rampant and kept quiet. I literally know of previous Reebok sponsored athletes who popped and were never disclosed because it would hurt the brand's image. Too much of fitness, too much of fitness makes money off of using their elites to mislead people into what

kinds of results are realistic through natural dieting and training. Cleaning 280 as a female with what appears to be single-digit body fat, sorry, that's not how natural female physiology works. Now when I took a screenshot of this, he had 227 likes on this, which was, you know, 50 times the next highest liked one. And I came back to it a couple hours later and there was 400 likes. Then I came back to it a couple hours later

and it was gone. Okay, the number one liked thing. The number one opinion on this was taken down, obviously by CrossFit Games themselves. Number one opinion on this was taken down obviously by CrossFit Games themselves. So it's interesting that you have a business that wants to be considered a legitimate clean and fair sport. When in reality, they would never, ever want to negatively affect their business by popping one of their own athletes. But they popped Ricky Gerard.

Yeah, and to me, I think, you know, that could have been the sacrificial lamb. So for those listening, Ricky Gerard got third at the games whenever, whatever year that was across the games. And... 2007. at the games, whatever year that was across the games. And 2007. Then they, yeah, and then they ended up retroactively popping him for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for It's like look we popped a guy who's who is third place, you know, who is on the podium but

It's Ricky Gerard. No one knows who the hell he is Matt Fraser, you know rich Froning Any of the women to declare to me whatever it is. Maybe they're on maybe they're not but boy if they ever tested positive They would never do anything You think I mean oh, yeah rich Froning Rich Froning, I mean, from me, Hallsign's point to a lot of these guys using, I'll never know. We will never know, because the game is recovery. So CrossFit, especially, it is a sport where recovery

could not be more important than anything else. Because you have to every single day do things that require mainly work capacity work. There are certain things that are like snatch, clean and jerk, you know, a single rep of each. But for the most part, we see 10 to 20 minute workouts where work capacity is being tested. And it's not entirely a skill-based sport. And I would say that about many different, you know, many different Olympic sports, you know, it's not, to me, the skill, the hard aspect of sports

is adapting to certain stimulus when you need to. Rugby, you have to make a move it, because you're, it's determined by your opponent. You have to make a move it because you're determined by your opponent. You have to change. No two movements are the same ever in rugby. It's all about what you can do with your mind. It takes a lot of skill in that way. In CrossFit, they literally, for one of the events, took a bunch of sandbags, brought them

from one end of the arena to a wheelbarrow, they wheeled them across to the other side of the arena, and then they took those sandbags and walked them up the stairs. Just to show that this sport is about capacity. We are testing capacity. Who is capable of doing the most work? For the most part.

And there's, CrossFit is just an accelerator and learning how hard to press the accelerator. And who can do that the most efficiently in the best? And there's nothing wrong with that. But that leads me to believe that honest to God, Annabolics and Androgens couldn't work in a, couldn't work better in any sport. They would benefit a crossfter more than most other sports androgens could benefit them because of the recovery aspect of it, because it's pure gas pedal, it's pure motor,

it's pure engine, whereas, you know what, here's another one, cycling. But see, that's cycling, if it's the multiple-day efforts, yeah, cycling is very similar. Recovery, low skill. Low skill, just effort, just go. You know, you have to think about when you're gonna do something, when you're gonna move whatever,

but for the most part, it's just who can recover the most. Yeah, I think strategy and skill are two slightly different techniques. Like, you can have your strategy in your mind and that doesn't mean you're not skilled at what you do. But, yeah, I didn't, didn't Matt Fraser say on Rogan, wasn't his excuse, I don't know if steroids would help. Didn't he say that?

I don't think he said that. So I don't think he said that. I've heard someone use that. Maybe it was Brent Fikowski. I've heard someone use steroids. Maybe it was Brent Fikowski. I've heard someone use... I mean, yeah, steroids, they damn near help with everything. Literally everything. I've said the problem that CrossFit has is it's like the UFC back in the day where it's got an internal doping accreditation.

Yeah, and that's... Yes, and people want to shit on usada and they can, you know, but for the most part, look at the size of the men in the UFC now. Look at the body types in the UFC now. It is noticeably different. Dude, whether people are using, like the single digit UFC, like UFC seven or something. Yeah, and that's the thing is like, you know, yeah, sure, they're probably doing peptides. They're probably doing, you know, fast clearing steroids, but it's not at the level of what it used to be.

And that's better. Crossfit right now, it's like, dude, I don't know how it works. It's very confusing. If they got usata involved, that could be very cool. I think they'd be very great. But why would they do it? What's the incentive for Crossfit? No only- That? What would they, what's the incentive for CrossFit? Not only-

That's the thing is, what's the incentive for even addressing this? That's what I would say, Chris, is like, why the fuck did CrossFit even talk about this? They shouldn't have even brought it up. It's like, if they just stay silent, if we're talking purely business, like yeah, why would they have you sought it on?

Because it's just business. We're making money. We're doing well. We're going up, baby. But we're talking about morality here. Okay, so if we want to ignore morality, just don't even bring up steroids. Because that's what it is.

That's the real discussion here as morality. It's, here are the rules. Are you going to break them in the name of what you think is right or what is right? That's ultimately the question. This is something that my father spent most of his years talking about. Most of his career, as a journalist, has talked about the morality of steroid use because he covered the Chicago Cubs when they had Sammy Sosa

and it was Sammy Sosa versus Mark McWire. He has had multiple cover stories on sports illustrated about athletes using he talks about it in the Olympics in in American football in baseball This is what I've heard my entire life. This is not new to me and What if we are a crossfit and we are just a business? And we don't care about us being a legitimate sport because when you are a legitimate sport There is some sort of morality contract that you have to sign. That's what the U.F.C. realized If they want to be treated like a legitimate sport, they have to get you sawdard. They have to be somewhat moral It can't just be a wild wild west shit show of a promotion where they just put big guy versus small guy

Well, they got big big shareholders, which the Crossfit doesn't. Crossfit's still a private company. Yes. And and that's yeah, they're the more legitimate you try to make yourself. This is the thing is like people want to ignore. They want the freak show. They want the Jake Paul fight. But at the end of the day,

I don't think they really do. The more legitimate you can make whatever your platform, the more steps you have to take to ignore business and capitalistic mindsets. Crossfit, as far as business goes and capital goes. Yeah, it is not in their best interest to get you S out. It costs a lot of fucking money to do that. And for what? For what? To lose potentially a big chunk of your game's roster.

Yeah, or maybe things change, maybe whatever it may be. But part of it is we want to show that this is a real sport You know, and these are the sacrifices you have to make the UFC has done a lot over the years to be like hey guys This isn't just some freak show You remember when UFC was starting and people were like this is archaic. This is disgusting. This is like You know like most states still in America don't allow UFC fights to happen because it's a psych. It's too scary It's too sketchy when really now it's like everyone watches UFC even my dad who thinks who used to think it was You know too sketchy too too too rough

Now he watches it and that's because they took that stance against drugs I And that's because they took that stance against drugs. I think that in order, if CrossFit wants to make this argument where they're being unfairly judged on the drug use in it, they have to start making moves. So to repost that woman's post and say, hey, a lot of us are getting critiqued on steroid use when the reality is you don't know what's going on. It's like, well, what are you doing to make us believe that people are clean? Nothing. They're not doing anything. Who would you say off the top roster if you had to pick a couple of people

that were the highest likelihood of them being on gear? Who would you pick? I'll go first. No, what's the? Yeah, this is the type of stuff that gets you in trouble. It gets you in trouble. It gets you in trouble. I'm not in the fitness industry, I can give a fuck. I know. You can pass, you can pass if you want. I mean, I said rich-froning.

I've said that. And the reason I said rich-froning is the longevity and the performance and the age. He's what, 35, 36 now? Yeah, and he's still. Yeah, better than ever, you know, and it's not a sport. I think it, I think it's one of those things where it should be a sport for the young. It is. It should be a.

Yeah. Fucking. So I was talking to Ben Bergeron about this. And he was saying that for this new Comp Train Academy, if you're over 26, they're not looking at you. 26. If you're older than 26, they're not looking at you because it's going to take a few years to develop you from where you need to be and blah, blah. It is a young person's sport because it's about recovery. And here's another. And that's why,'s sport because it's about recovery. And here's another.

And that's why, listen, if it's about recovery, man, androgens are being fucking used. I will say that, honest to God, anyone who's listening, who's a cross-fitter or who will listen, who see this as cross-fitters, like you have to be skeptical. And if it doesn't matter to you, then that's fine. If you think everyone's doping and it doesn't matter to you, then that's fine. If you think everyone's doping,

and it doesn't fucking matter, fine, that's great. But do not say that it's incredibly likely that your hero, your guy, is not taking, or girl, or female. Either one. There's no assurances until they get a more robust testing procedure in place. There's no assurances that people have. And even then, it's not an assurance.

It's not a for sure, but it definitely helps. It definitely helps. Usada is a, they are a bunch of Nazis, bro. They will fuck you up if they do not give a fuck. They might not be able to catch you, but if they do catch you, you're fucked. They're not gonna report to CrossFit and CrossFit's gonna determine your outcome.

Once you sign up with Usada, they do whatever the fuck they want. Game over. Yeah, there's no safe words. There's no way to get out of this alive. Yeah, we gotta protect this guy. No, that's not the case. They're not, they're gonna get you.

Did you see that Mark Zuckerberg lost $6 billion in a day when Facebook was down? Listen, man, if he takes my Instagram away from me once more, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I think if he does, he should go bankrupt. No, I'm kidding. That's the sort of shit that's just, it's, is it wrong that I feel good about it?

I don't know, it's a, he went on the the world richest list. He dropped from number two. I think sorry, from number three to number five. So it's Elon Musk 210 billion. Jeff Bezos 185 billion. Bernard R note. Fuck knows who he is. So what are you doing in with all of these big names? 153 billion, Bill Gates, 124, Mark Zuckerberg, the Zuck, 121. Big fat drop-off. Mark Zuckerberg's personal wealth is fallen by more than $6 billion in a few hours, knocking him down a notch on the list of the world's richest people. After a whistleblower came forward and outages took Facebook, Inc's flagship product offline. A sell-off sent the social media giant stock limiting 4.9% on Monday, adding to a drop of

about 15% since September. The stock slide on Monday sent Zuckerberg's worth down to 121.6 billion, dropping him below Bill Gates, number five on the Bloomberg Billionaires index. He's down from almost 140 billion in a matter of weeks, according to the index. Shit son. Man, he's still got $121 billion. So why I don't give a shit about Mark Zuckerberg's personal wealth. Well, did you watch, have you been seeing the whistle blower stuff?

That lady that came forward? About the Pandora papers? No, the Facebook internal employee who's been releasing all of these documents. No, I haven't, I haven't. This is wild. So it's kind of, it's weird because everybody from the outside looking in, especially since what was that Netflix documentary about social media? Oh God, fuck.

That one. Yes, that one. Since that one came out, everyone's sort of known. Everyone's had it in the back of their minds that look, this is pretty fucked. The algorithms are manipulating us. They're telling us things, they're changing our behavior, they're making us feel a certain way, making people fearful, limbic hijack, racing to the bottom of the brainstem.

All of this, who's surprised by this? People like Tristan Harris have been talking about this shit for literally four or five years, publicly, the ex-design ethicist at Google. But the difference now, I don't know why, maybe it's just because maybe I'm overestimating or under resting how normy the normies are. But you have to be pretty fucking normy to not know that Facebook and what's happened Instagram

are doing this sort of shit to people. Yeah, but maybe I'm giving them too much credit. But being aware of it, does that make you any better? Does that change your psyche at all? No, but it wouldn't mean, I'm not surprised. This one's come forward and said, in the reports, we have verifiable information. Facebook's internal team has information

saying that Instagram actually hurts the body image of young girls that it causes increases in suicidal ideation that there is like a they reckon that they are between 3 and 5% of global conflict is due to Facebook. They police the platform, they manage to get a particular percentage but they police almost all of the comments and the content on the platform in English and English only accounts for 9% of all of the content that's produced on Facebook. So overall, what you end up with is

the world now being told through a whistleblower that what people presumed for a very long time, and you're already- That's that water engineered. That this was actually happening, and they're aware of it. It's like, do you not think, they see the fucking algorithms, they make the algorithms. Like, obviously, they know that this is actually happening and they're aware of it. It's like, do you not think they see the fucking algorithms? They make the algorithms.

Like, yeah, obviously they know that this is going on. We knew it was going on and we don't have access to the algorithms, but obviously this was going to happen. But so yeah, this lady's come forward and basically said that there's a huge cache of internal documents, 10,000 pages that she siphoned off over a quite a long time. And then she left in May and revealed them. And these documents came out and then she did a 60 minutes interview, which you can watch

on YouTube. And then she gave a three hour address to the House of Congress, or some shit the other day as well. And yeah, I mean, it's a bad week to be Mark Zuckerberg. It's a pretty bad week. Well, okay, the movie's called The Social Delima. That was it. And you know, it's funny that like the whistleblower

comes out to say that water is wet essentially. Oh, you know, it causes young females to negatively think about their body. Wow, shocker. You know, causes more suicidal ideations, shocker. You know, this is all something that people have been talking about for a long time. So why didn't you?

Well, because it's now from the people that made it. It's coming directly from the people that made it. It's like, you know, if anyone in politics, if we theorize that something has happened, and everyone theorizes, it's like if, literally, what's his name, Epstein, right? It's like if his prison guards literally came out and said we killed Epstein, okay?

Something we all knew, but now it's coming from the mouth of the actual people that were doing it. It's a little bit different. I think it's a little bit more, you know, that might not be the best analogy, but you know what I mean? It's coming directly from the people that are creating the algorithms that are creating these problems.

I don't know if it's better for Facebook to have the power of gods to be able to manipulate the way that culture works. And if they were blind to it, like what was the best that people could have hoped for because the effect hasn't changed. People we already knew that young girls mental health was being impacted by social media. That people were becoming addicted to their devices that most people report that in retrospect they wish they'd spent less time on their phones, so on and so forth. We knew that that was happening. Right. Is it, what were we presuming before we saw this document that Facebook were like culpably deniable, willfully ignorant?

Like no, they obviously, in order to be able to enact those, those those those effects, they have to actually know the way that this works. No, and that's what I'm saying is like it almost like skepticism and theory and and you know conspiracy theory like we'll never ever be legitimate because it doesn't make people like people just always want to know exactly if it is or if it isn't. They want to know no matter what they observe, it needs to be declared what it is. And it's like, yeah, what did we expect before? It was like, no, we didn't expect anything different, but we just kind of went, yeah, you got to move on. But now since it's legitimate, there's people saying, oh, yeah, fuck, this is a fucking

problem. And they've known it's been a problem, but now it's like, okay, you know, it's like, you know, humans celebrate over the potential to have something be cut and fucking dry. You know, because there's always this dichotomy between good and bad throughout everything. And people who are always running in their brains to determine which side to be on of any debate. Now it's like we are sure and it feels good. It feels really good to hate on Mark Zuckerberg. You know what I mean?

Not as good as it feels to hate on Mark Ripeter. Feels better. I look, I don't hate on him. I don't hate on the man for real. Where can people go to access your alt-right, libertarian YouTube channel? Just go to my YouTube channel, Zach Talender,

ZACKSpace, T-E-L-A-N-D-E-R. And yeah, you can go there. And if you guys want to learn how to wait-lift, go to my Patreon, patreon.com slash the act calendar. And if you want to watch me do more stuff, go to my Instagram, coach underscore ZT, and that's it.

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