Modern Wisdom - #527 - Ben Greenfield - How To Biohack Your Sex Life

Episode Date: September 17, 2022

Ben Greenfield is a Biohacker, Coach, Author, Speaker and Ironman Triathlete. Boosting your performance in the bedroom is a goal many people want. Thankfully Ben experimented with pretty much every strategy there is from gas station pills to penis stem cell injections, soundwave treatment and red light therapy so we don't have to. Expect to learn why turning your penis black and blue might not be a bad thing long term, why Zevia is as healthy of a soda drink as you can get, how my friend decided he's a 95th percentile semen producer, whether I should get injected with loads of stem cells in Colombia, the most important diet and training protocols everyone is missing and much more... Sponsors: Get 7 days free access and 25% discount from Blinkist at https://blinkist.com/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM) Get 83% discount & 3 months free from Surfshark VPN at https://surfshark.deals/MODERNWISDOM (use code MODERNWISDOM) Get 20% discount on the highest quality CBD Products from Pure Sport at https://bit.ly/cbdwisdom (use code: MW20) Extra Stuff: Check out Ben's website - https://bengreenfieldlife.com/ Follow Ben on Twitter - https://twitter.com/bengreenfield Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello friends, welcome back to the show. My guest today is Ben Greenfield, he's a biohacker, coach, author, speaker, and an Ironman triathlete. Boosting up performance in the bedroom is a goal many people want. Thankfully, Ben experimented with pretty much every strategy there is, from gas station pills to penis stem cell injections, sound wave treatment and red light therapy, so we don't have to. Expect to learn why turning your penis black and blue might not be a bad thing long term. Why Zivia is as healthy as a soda drink as you can get. How my friend decided he's a 90-50% aisle semen producer, whether I should get injected with loads of stem cells in Colombia,

the most important diet and training protocols everyone is missing, and much more. Don't forget that you might be listening but not subscribed, and that means you will miss episodes when they are uploaded. So head to Spotify and press the follow button in the middle of the screen or an Apple podcast as a plus in the top right hand corner. It supports the show, it makes me very happy indeed, and it ensures that you won't miss episodes when they go live.

But now, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome... Ben Greenfield. Ben Greenfield, look at the show. Hey, man. I forgot my fake pop, my fake soda. You have that one, but unfortunately, I now have soda envy, fake soda envy. So you told me when I was on your show, I was drinking a diet, Dr. Pepper, and you castigated me for drinking it, which has happened a number of times by both my audience and you.

And you told me, you read, piled me on Zivia, which I liked because I liked the taste and that it was zero calorie. But then you started telling me about stuff they've done with the type of tin or aluminum that they use in the cans and a bunch of other stuff. What's so good about Zavier? I don't know. I don't know what aluminum is. In this country, we say aluminum,

but I actually interviewed their founder as weird name. I think it's like patty or something like that. Maybe that's not a weird name in the UK, but it's a weird name here, patty. He filled me in on the natural form of stevia. Like, you know, not all stevia is created equal. Some has like multi-deck shirt and sugar's added to it. And so is synthetic and, you know, it's not like I have stevia growing around something like a window here.

It's just like a natural stevia leave that I can use to sweeten stuff. But apparently they use like a supernatural stevia in it. And they have tested the actual liquid contents of the can to show that the metal isn't leaching out into the cam. So I was, because when I interviewed him, I put him on the spot about a lot of this stuff because I'm like, okay, so it says natural and calorie free,

but let's get into the details and we just drink it like some toxic form of something that's supposedly bandied about as healthy. And like it kind of passed all the checks on it. So the Ben Greenfield smell test says that if you're gonna do a calorie-free soft drink, Zeeveer is one of the best. Yeah, it's pretty good, because look,

they do like a ginger beer that's good for a Moscow Mule, that Coke that you drink right now is great for whiskey and Coke. And the ginger root beer If you pour that on coconut ice cream you've got yourself a like a healthy hippie root beer float So here is so you you just got back from a hunt tell me about that Oh, I was hunting in

In Malachi, which is this great't even feel like you're in America. It's like this third world country like no offense to the people who live in Mala Kai. It's beautiful and the people that are super cool, but it's just like isolated and it used to be where they exile lepers like people with with Hanson's disease, which is like this sickle cell disorder that results in like the the skin getting eaten away. You probably heard leprosy before. And they used to like have a leper colony there.

And they do even like like tests on these lepros and bringing prisoners and inject them with leprosy to develop vaccinations. And like, you know, Monsanto, bless their hearts are like the main employer on the island. So they got a bunch of like crazy seed testing stuff going on there. So they're almost kind of like shy of the mainlanders, it seems almost as though that I mean, there is a good reason. A good reason to be, right?

It's like, well, it's in Hawaii. It's one of the Hawaiian islands. It's like 10 miles wide, about 30 miles long. It takes like maybe an hour to drive across the whole thing. And it's like a jungle. It's like you have fluent to Jurassic Park on a helicopter as you're coming in. There's waterfalls tumbling down these steep cliffs, going into the ocean, and very, very few people, but a ton of really good hunting, particularly for access deer, which is considered amongst

many hunters to be like some of the best tasting wild game meat on the planet. No matter if that, yeah, you can see in the video, I like that. I have hunted access deer a few times. I've shot three access bucks before. That one behind me is one that I got in Texas actually, but it actually tastes really good and they're super hard to hunt. They're like white tail deer, which are already a really smart deer that are pretty elusive. They're like white tail deer on crack.

Like you literally shoot your arrow from your bow and they can hear that arrow coming off the string. I shoot a pretty heavy poundage and a pretty fast arrow. It's about 360 foot per second, which is pretty fast for an arrow coming off a bow. And they'll even hear that. And by the time the arrow has reached them, they will either duck or jump and might try to miss the arrow. So even if you get in on them, it's hard to hit the vitals and it's a tough hunt. I was hunting with my sons, my twin 14 year old sons. I was super proud of one of them who just like sat

like a frickin sniper for eight hours, just covered in camel in the bushes, you know, his sent block on and you know, just sat side, which is hard for a 14 year old boy you know and uh and he he shot a deer and got some denison and uh I was I was super proud of him but uh it was cool cool father son experience yeah I just came in on a red eye yesterday and uh and here I am baby dude unstoppable I remember we went to uhoFX in Austin. We caught up in PaleoFX a while ago. I noticed then that you had that necklace on that you've got around your neck.

What is it? I don't know. People just send me shit to put on. This is two things, actually, I put on the same necklace, so I don't know if it can't go to each other out. But the one is called a biosjometry pendant. And I got it from an organization in Egypt that has studied a lot of the geometrical shapes

built into many of the pyramidal structures, you know, like the pyramids in, not only in Egypt, but all over the world. And they found that there are specific geometric forms that create what they call like a negative energy field that's supposed to be able to block harmful frequencies or allow your body to better be able to handle everything from like negative energy from people to blasts of EMF from Wi-Fi routers, etc. And I'm pretty skeptical of a lot of this stuff, but they've actually got some studies on things like

red blood cell clumping and the health effects of certain cities where they've incorporated these shapes all over the city. And you can get them more on your neck. And I actually am building a home in Idaho right now. And I'm having them come out and do a full analysis of my land in my home in Idaho to set it all up like Feng Shui Wai's to have these little shapes like all over the house. I visited one of my friends.

You may know him. He's a pretty prolific health guy. His name is Paul Chek. I visited his house and I walked into it and I'm like this feels like a peaceful cave. Like you walk in, you literally feel you've been in one of those old meditation pods, you know, like a, like a health centers have many climbing sides, they're almost like sensory deprivation chambers. His house, his whole house felt like that. I'm like, dude, what'd you do? And he said that he did this sacred geometry analysis and build up of a lot like college land, his home, everything. So short term, while I'm waiting for my home and the full thing built in my home I'm more in the necklace from them

And then this other one has come from a company called Lealum Quantum Tech also pretty woo as got like these capsules inside of it You can see I had just unscrewed it. I dump about and so Basically This this is super Jedi. They've got like all these, so apparently certain people are born with the ability to be able to do like hands-on healing and distance healing and can kind of like blast their frequencies across space to other people. And I don't deny certain people are born with specific gifts because I've actually interviewed one guy in Illinois.

I actually know he's in Ohio, Dr. Neme, and he does like prayer and faith-based healing. And some of that stuff is kind of gimmicky and just like away for churches and stuff to make money. People walk in and get slid in the spirit or whatever baby. But this guy actually has a ton of like proven cases that he's healed using like his hands and prayer and faith and energy and you're probably from like reeky healing where people do a massage but they're not actually touching you, they're using the energy from their hands. And we know the humans emanate some kind of energetic frequency, but certain people seem to be able to do it better. And so this company, Lila Quantumtech, they've got like 12 of some of the most powerful healers from around the globe that they have put their frequencies into like wearables and jewelry.

They can imbue them with stuff. Yeah, and then they ship them to you. to like wearables and jewelry. Oh, so they can be you then with stuff. Yeah, and then they ship them to you. And so this necklace is embedded with all these frequencies from all these healers. And I don't know, it could be placebo, but I feel pretty good when I wear this necklace. So that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

It's probably not as beneficial as the fake Dr. Pepper, but helps out a little bit. Yeah, man. For someone that is an evidence-based guy, I think that's probably up toward the upper bound of woo for you. It totally is. It totally is. But, you know, I feel good and it works for me. So I'm going to keep convincing myself that it's doing something. Plus it just looks cool. Yeah. It's a conversation a conversation So I mean you and I just managed to fill five minutes of dead air talking about it. So it's doing something We never spoke about all of the stuff that you did for men's health back in the day those experiments around sex and penis injections and PRP and blue pills

I Believe it or not bros don't sit around the coffee shop talking about that. I want to talk about your penis Ben I want to talk about what you did to your penis, please Yeah, it's kind of old news But we'll talk about it. It was men's health magazine was doing an issue. I think it was January 2018 maybe a called new year New Dick in which they wanted to have a magazine devoted to all the things that a gentleman could do to enhance his sexual performance or his libido or his fertility.

And so they decided that I would be the perfect little immersive journalist to do the story. So for six months, I basically was given the assignment of chasing down all the random things that one could do to enhance one's sexual performance. I'm not a freaking playboy, right? Like I've been married for 20 years. I got a couple of kids. It was very interesting. I think I was a very interesting person to assign this to. And my dear wife had to be pretty patient as I'm going around, you know, getting my dick inject to with random substances and trying out different pills before it make love and, you know, doing the no-adjaculation for a month. So everything. So a few of the more interesting things was that, for example, they have me try like five or six of the most popular so-called gas station dick pills, which have all these wonderful superfood

herbs from China and the far reaches of the Amazon and natural supplements. Island from some, you know, one horned goat, and they package them up and of course, on the label presents you with this idea that you've got all these crazy super foods, which I have no clue how they manage to do that and sell it for three bucks at the gas station counter but somehow they do. And so I took each one of them and tried each one of them. And of course,

as you inevitably anticipate, you get clammy hands and a racing heart and not only a giant gorge dick, but just like blood flow to the whole body, like the perfect pre-workout supplement, but kind of like the pre-workout supplements that got outlawed because they're giving people hard tax. And we actually did lab testing on all of them. And it turns out that the main two ingredients in every single one are a Fedra and Sildenafil. A Fedra being potent central nervous system stimulants that's kind of like an amphetamine and Sildenafil being the active component of viagra. So when you see a gas station,

dick pill with all the purported super foods and herbs and blends and everything, it's basically so benifilm and a fedra. So, but I mean, they work, but I wouldn't consider them to be healthy, especially for anyone who has, say, a heart. Then the other interesting ones was like the no ejaculation, and that's more like an Ayurvedic ancient Eastern practice

where you just basically don't come for a month. And that doesn't mean you don't intercourse, you just don't come. So that I absolutely hated. I was angry, I always pent up. It's like, again, I'm a married man with kids. When I have time to have sex with my wife, I want the full meal meal. I want the full experience. And so I was like, it grumpy and I get pent up and I get like aggressive.

And I have to go lift weights like, you know, the morning after we'd had sex hard because I felt like I had like this this this pent up energy inside me So I suppose when you know There's advice to say like I don't know UFC fighter or a tennis athlete or something to to do like you know No sex no porn no masturbation prior to their event I think there is something to I think it's just pent up energy that it creates. I suspect it's probably accompanied by a rise into testosterone. I didn't do a blood testosterone test, but you know, it seemed to work for that, but I didn't like the whole feeling that I had from that experience.

Well, the mechanism, the mechanism that it's working on might not be something quite as complex as the physiology and the relative levels of your sex binding, hormone, globulin and stuff. It could just be that you're a bit pissed off. Yeah, exactly. I think that's the case. And a lot of people say, well, it depletes your minerals, bro, and you hear whacin' all your zinc and boron and DHA

because you need that to make your sperm and your semen. And the fact is, you need so, so few minerals to make like the teeny tiny half teaspoon or teaspoon or, you know, whatever, if if if you're a real performer, maybe a tablespoon of sperm that like there's no way it's going to pleat you. You could like ejaculate every day and not take any minerals and you'd survive. So be suspect for years on end. So it's not like it's nutrient depleting. Bro, I was in, I got to tell you this story. I'm in Dubai about a couple of years ago, and I was there with a bunch of friends just sat in the pool talking about whatever the

fuck we were talking about. One of the guys turns to us, looks like he's dead in the eyes, and he's like, dude, how much do you come? I like... Like the volume? What do you mean? Precisely my... I need clarification. What do you mean? The volume of semen that comes out of me? Yeah, yeah, like how much do you come? I said, well, what do you want?

Do you want the actual amount? Do you want it on like a percentile? He's like, well, just like compared with other guys. I said, well, look, I make it a purpose of mine to try and avoid watching other men come as much as possible. If I've made it to that point in porn, when I do see another man come, then I've made an error because I don't tend to watch that far in. But I was like, like, if it's percentile, Paul's rewind. Okay. Skip back 15 minutes. Look, like, and also, I don't think that if

I was to do that, that they're probably a very representative sample of men, in any case, look, I reckon I'm 50th percentile. I reckon I'm like slap bang in the middle of the normal distribution of normal amount of semen. And like, quick as a flash, turn to me and you went 95th percentile. I'm definitely 95th percentile. I was like, and there's an actual curve for that somewhere.

Probably fine. Probably. Okay. And I was like, look, so what's it like? What's being 95th percentile come distributor like? And it was like, frankly, a little bit inconvenient. Like, I was like, okay, well, what tells you, given the fact that you probably have as much information about other men's seamen volume as I do,

what gives you the impression that you are 95th percentile and he's like, well, every single girl that I'm with looks down and goes, that's a lot of come. And I'm like, well, I don't know. So just FYI, there are people out there that maybe break a couple of tablespoons. It's possible that it's like highly diluted though. You know, it's like when you make yourself a smoothie and it's got way too much ice in it, not enough of the good stuff. You know, I don't think the volume counts as much as the millions of sperm that are in

the tiniest, tiniest amount so it doesn't matter anyway. Oh, so you've saying that you could have like a dark matter Antigravity version of this that is just unbelievably dense. It would be the size of a pinhead, but it would sink through the bed It's quality over quantity It's like when you bite into a Hershey's chocolate bar versus the darkest 100% cacao from the Amazon You need a lot less of the ladder. Yeah, that's that's my pain at least So that's the awkward talking about eating chocolate and sperm volumes simultaneously. So we can move on to a few of the other things.

That the thing I guess that caught the most attention from that whole protocol was of course, the idea of getting you're dick injected. And so I did a few different things. The first thing I did was what's called a Gaines wave treatment. Where do they take, they use what's called acoustic, acoustic shockwave therapy. And what you do is you go into the clinic and there's a bunch of these all over the US. And you walk in, you've been evaluated beforehand, except it is a new patient. The nurse hands you a little bottle of numbing cream

with instructions to go into the bathroom and apply this numbing cream all over your genitals, which I did. If someone tells me to put numbing cream on my genitals, I'm usually gonna do it just because I suspect whatever comes afterwards, I might need the numbing cream on hand for them. Not one of those guys is gonna grip my teeth through

through something that my penis needs to be numbed for. I just, so I put it on and then I go into the room and the girl did it. Like I did this in Miami. She was kind of like a hot Cuban. So it was a touch awkward for me just because I have this lady with this giant wand, like a jack camera going, all over my crotch, and I'm like drape, so I can't see my crotch, but I can feel everything going on down there. I have no clue if I've got a boner, because everything's numb. And so she finishes, takes like 20 minutes, and it's kind of like ultrasound. It supposedly breaks up whole blood vessels in your penis, and then women can do this too. It's not a fact my. It supposedly breaks up whole blood vessels in your penis and women can do this too It's not like my wife did it a few times and and builds new blood vessels and so Then what they'll do for the folial deals?

They do the P shot afterwards for women they call it the O shot and they take platelet-rich plasma Which is an extractive of your own blood that's been centrifuged and plasma, which is an extractive of your own blood that's been centrifuged and spun in the centrifuge to concentrate the growth factors, which are then injected into the penis other before or after the acoustic shockwave therapy. So I did that protocol and the funniest thing about it was I had dinner with my grandma scheduled that night because my grandma lives in Miami. I wasn't going to go to Miami and not see my grandma because I'd be in the dog house if I did that.

And so we went out to this Cuban restaurant and this was like five or six hours after the protocol had been completed. And it was about then that the numbing cream started to wear off. And it was like Insty boner. Insty boner, like literally. Like I'm popping a tent right there underneath table sitting and having dinner with my grandma and also my aunt was there my Cindy and my grandma Rose are sitting there as I'm you know eating these plantain fries and trying

to hide the fact that we got a raging boner and it lasted like the whole night. Not like not like go to the hospital, Priapism you know had too much viagra type of thing but it lasted like the whole night. Not like not like go to the hospital, Priapism, you know, had too much viagra type of thing, but it's like it was very engorged. And I couldn't wait to get home to my wife. And the effects of that lasted for a solid, I did not intend that pun, um, for a solid couple of months. And so that actually really worked. And like those clinics still exist. And they even sell like an at home device called the rocket now that you can do the same thing with that home.

That's not quite as intense. So you don't need the numbing cream. Have you got any idea how the injection yourself? Yeah, how much of that was contributed to by the plate the rich plasma and how much was from the some way? I think a lot of it was the plate the rich plasma because I did that protocol like six times. And I think three or four of them, they didn't do the injection and it seemed like the results are just as good.

And I have that at home device as well. I've messed around with it a little bit. It just seems to work. So yeah, and it's very, very simple concepts, just like ultrasound, blake, breaking up blood vessels and introducing new blood flow. So there's some science behind it. And then like the, I guess the cherry on the cupcake was the stem cell injection in the my penis, which actually I had to prepare for because when

I did it, you know, the stem cell was still a little bit of a wild, wild west. And I went to American cell technologies in Florida, which was actually rated by the FDA the day after I got the protocol done. I actually checked this week and my stem cells are still stored down there, but they have to take your stem cells and suck them out of your fat. And I'm pretty skinny-ass guy. So it was like violent liposuction one, like in and out of my back. You know, it felt like somebody was stabbing me over and over and over again To extract enough fat for them to be able to grow my stem cells Which is now illegal in the US which is probably one reason that they had the FDA raid

But they expand the stem cells from your own tissues called a polygous stem cell expansion This is why some people go to Tijuana and places like that now to get their stem cells because they can expand them overseas. They can't in the US. They now combine with something called exosomes in the US, which arguably makes the stem cells just as good as if they were expanded, but they didn't have much of that technology when I did it. So they're expanding the stem cells, but they got expanded for two or three months to get enough of what's called a mesenchymal stem cell count, MSC count, to allow them to be worth like re-injecting back into

the body. So I actually have my stem cells from my bone marrow and my hip stored at Forever Labs in Berkeley, California from when I was 30 years old. And I've got all of my fat stem cells stored at American cell technologies in Florida when I was, I think, 34, 35. So if I ever get in a horrific car accident or a need of major surgery or something like that, it is kind of cool because I can actually use my own body stem cells rather than like embryonic or umbilical or placental stem cells to help with recovery. But in this case, they expand the fat cells and then about two months later I had them

shipped up on dry ice to Spokane, Washington, my hometown where I went to the office of Dr. Lino, whose son actually they became a friend of mine. He's coming over for stakes tomorrow night speaking of the devil. And his dad had never done this procedure before. So admittedly, I was a little bit nervous, but it basically involved injecting the corpus closeum of the penis on either side, like the spongy tissue of the penis with like the equivalent of like kind of a nerve block, a numbing agent again, back to the the numbing agent and then injecting in three different spots my penis with my own stem cells and I was kind of

concerned because for like three days my dick was purple and black and blue and looked like it'd been run over by a semi-truck my wife was obviously a little bit concerned as well run over by a semi-truck. My wife was obviously a little bit concerned as well, you know with with me experimenting with these fringe protocols on my genitals and and them looking pretty pretty bad after the fact but that like if the PRP and and Chakwik therapy thing lasted a couple months like the stem cell thing I

feel like I've been on cloud nine since and and have to clarify. I've done it twice since then. So I've done a total of three stem cell injections in the my penis and every time it seems like it gives me a solid like two years of amazing boners and my orgasms last like two or three minutes sometimes and I have no clue if I'm in the 95th percentile For a come production. I don't pay attention to that But it feels like it just kind of keeps on coming out and coming out and so there's there's something going on with the stem cell injection I don't think that's you know like my necklace super woo and placebo like like I can guarantee, and again, like I'm 40, you know, technically on paper should not be performing like I'm 18, but I feel like I've got better sex, longer orgasms, and a harder dick than I did when I was a teenager, and you know,

I'm not financially affiliated with any stem cell companies or anything like that. It's not like I'm a doctor selling this stuff. I just can say like, it seemed to work. So I think that was the best part of that whole protocol. The new year, new DIC thing was the stem cells. What mechanism do you think these stem cells are working on? Like what is it that causes orgasms to last longer? Probably all the DIC cancer I have. That's that. Just all those little foreign molecules

make an extra baby. That actually is the one concern that I, so I had them like, well, I'm injecting technically a growth medium into a gland, a major gland of my body. And one of the definitions of cancer is undifferentiated cell growth. But yet, I don't, I don't't get people think I cowboy everything in my body There's actually a lot of literature on what's called peronies disease

Which is an abnormal curvature of the penis and also ED or rectile dysfunction and the use of stem cells in both those cases Had been used for like five or six years prior to when I did the protocol with nobody getting cancer or having ill effects or anything like that So I was pretty comfortable with it. I suspect the mechanism of action is restoration of more youthful tissue, you know, clean up of old dead tissue, probably an increase in the activity of what are called the latex cells in the testes, which helped to produce sperm and testosterone, things like that. You know, at the same time, you got to remember, like as a part of this magazine article, I did the shockwave therapy.

I had this red light beside me, right? And I still do like the red light naked in the morning every day, which actually has some good data behind it for testosterone production. And it's also really good for blood flow. You know, I started to pay more attention to a lot of the foods like gin sang and ginger and avocados and a lot of these things that seemed to also help out with men's sexual health. So I had stacked a lot of stuff, but at the same time, it was like when I got the stem

cells within three days, it was like, whoa, something's going on here. So there's probably multiple mechanisms of action. You know, I could hypothesize all day long about what else is going on, but, you know, stem cells, I mean, they're cool. I think that despite them often, I think being overpriced, or the mesenchymal stem cell count that you get if you get injected with them in the US Whether it's for a joint or anti-aging or whatever tends to be a lot lower than what you get overseas I don't think a lot of doctors really do a good job with Things like ultrasound guided imaging when they inject a joint just versus just kind of randomly putting it where it seems to hurt Like third you know, it's again still a while while west, but I'm a fan of stem cells like I do think they're good for

For regenerative medicine. I think they're good for longevity. I just think the mechanism, the way we so deliver it and what they're combined with is super important. And what I mean by that again, is if you're getting stem cells in the U.S., ideally they're from your own tissue. And if not from really, really good screened tissue like wardenson's jelly from the embellical area or placental stem cells. And then ideally, they're also combined with exosomes, which are the tiny signaling molecules that stem cells use to communicate with one another. And they're ideally delivered using some form

of ultrasound guided imaging. So they get into the area they're supposed to get into unless you're just doing an IV for general anti-aging. So yeah, I think that there's something to them though. That's very interesting to me because I've got a call with a company out in Columbia. It looks like I might be going out there to get some stem cell treatment from them. You mean Ohio or South America? It's South America. Okay. And I mean, I'd go to Ohio if I was you. I think it's one more fun than South America. It's just me. As long as I can fly over the top of all of the gangs with burning cars in the middle of

the street in Mexico at the moment, I think I should be at least on a good head start. But yeah, they've been going through all of the different elements of this. It's Watan's jelly from umbilical cord. It's from screened space, blah, blah, blah, it's cultured, but all different elements of this. It's Warton's jelly from umbilical cord, it's from screened space, blah, blah, blah, it's cultured, but all this sort of stuff. Um, yeah, so it's, it's something that I hadn't really considered much before, but yeah, they're saying about uh ultrasound guided. Some of the work that I would get done would be intradiscal injections, two bulging discs or two, uh, two discs that have that have lost height, plus stuff for mental,

I guess, sharpness and agility. I killed these rupture two years ago. They still want to go into that. They want to go into my shoulder and they want to do an IV as well. And then you go into a hyperbarique chamber afterward. There's a bunch of other stuff that you go into. So it seems pretty... It sounds like they're doing it the right way. There's a guy in the US who does something like that in Park City, Utah's name's Dr. Harry Adelson. And he does this thing called the full body stem cell makeover. There's a couple videos on YouTube somewhere

because I had him run the camera while they were doing it on me. And he literally puts you under a form of anesthesia and knocks you off like four hours and does like head to toe every single joint in your body. But what they're probably using in Colombia is expanded stem cells because again, he can't do that in U.S.

He like pops into your bone marrow, like into your hips, like still scars on other side of my hip and just pulls the marrow out of your hips and uses like this bone marrow stem cell soup of your own cells for the injection. So he does something kind of like that. And usually we'll do like NADIVs and different cocktails beforehand to kind of prepare the body. I tell people who are going to travel internationally to do it though, if you're going to go internationally

to do stem cells, understand that international travel itself can be kind of hard on the body. And ideally, if you're going to get stem cells, you want your body in as low a state of inflammation as possible. It's like, you know, arrive going to get stem cells, you want your body in as low a state of inflammation as possible. It's like, you know, arrive three to four days early, maybe try to do a little bit of hyperbaric beforehand. You know, do anti-inflammatory stuff, get a good night of sleep, you know, take your ginger and your curcumin, and if they have an NADIV, get that kind of stuff.

So, like, do a lot of TLC beforehand, so your body's a little bit more primed to use the stem cells. I'll be texting you for the protocol before I go and do anything in any case. Going back to what you were talking about there, so obviously sex is only one part of a relationship and there's somebody that looks at strategies for optimizing different things. Have you got principles that you follow when it comes to maintaining a healthy relationship with your wife? You've said that you're married for 20 years, which is hell of a long time. Four kids now, three kids, four kids. Two kids.

Two kids. Two kids. We're kind of thinking about adopting another kid right now, actually. We were talking about that last night, but right now, two kids. And really, I think the main thing that comes down to Chris is his and hers towels. Like, you've got to have the rack, and it's got to be marked his and hers. The bathrobe is not quite as necessary, but the his and hers towels are pretty important. Besides that, the main things that I think hold us together in our relationship is when it comes to daily

check-ins and daily habits, we have two things. The first is that as a family, we gather for family, meditation, breath work, tapping, prayer, and singing both in the morning and in the evening every day. So I get up usually about 4.35 am, I get a bunch of work done. I have my own kind of like spiritual fitness time where I'm reading my Bible, I'm praying, I'm listening to really good music, typically burning some incense, doing a little breath work, and you know, then I'll go do some stretching and foam rolling and stuff, get a couple hours of riding and work done,

and then by then my family's awake. And I gather the family, it's usually about 7.30. I pop upstairs still living room for my office, and usually I'll tell everybody, hey, five minute warning, me on the back porch or on the patio, and the whole family will gather some meditation cushions, you know, journal journal we use one called the spiritual disciplines journal and we gather about 730 we go into meditation breathing uh in place a nice background music I select to

use insight, time, eras, and meditation, time, eras, because my my selection right now is the angelic choir voices. So instantly transported to the clouds of heaven with the harps and the choir and we play that and I have it set for about eight minute meditation. So for the first three minutes, we're just basically settling in, you know, and that could be your own private time of prayer. That could be you doing some breath work. That could be there's like a little Bible verse on the top of each page that we meditate with. And what I do during that time is I try to memorize the Bible

verse, so I'm memorizing some good proper or something every day of the week. And a lot of times my sons are doing that. And then there's a little timer that goes off, a little bell that goes off at three minute mark. At that point, we go into gratitude. So it's two minutes of writing down what it is that you're grateful for. And then as you're no doubt aware, like re-imagining and reliving that experience in your mind. So the same neurotransmitters and hormones and chemicals

and feel good at this kind of rushes over you. That's the same as you may have experienced when you had that moment of gratitude occur in the first place So two minutes of writing down what is we're grateful for thinking about that gratefulness praying prayer of thanks for that thing that happened to us that person we encountered and then the bell goes off and The last thing we do is service. So I think a lot of morning practices are based on self-affirmation, like, you know, like who does a Stuart Smolley and Saturday night live. Like I'm good, I'm wonderful. I've got to start people like me. And we instead have a more others facing approach. Yeah.

So we write down one person we can pray for or help or serve. And then we got two minutes to like plan that out, right? To make our grandmaster plan for how we're going to help that person that day or maybe we can't, we're just going to like Pray for him during that time send positive emotions their way, but is it about one person every day? It's 365 days you got one person you're really going out of your way to sacrifice for or help or serve and then we finish after the final Bill goes off at the eight minute mark with about 20 seconds of tapping, just based on neuro-linguistic programming, we'll set an anchor that when it gets stressful later on in the day, and we tap in that same location,

we've trained the body to go into that same state of peace and rest that we were in at the end of the meditation that morning. We all take a deep breath in, just one giant, and then now, release a sigh, we'll typically say a prayer, and then we do like a team huddle, you know, that literally a team huddle like everybody comes together. Yo, what's for dinner? What time is dinner?

Who's cooking this? Who's cooking that? What time's jujitsu when you guys go into tennis? When's dad going to go play pickleball? You know, what time are we are we starting this and that. And so it's basically like a five minute team huddle. We're just all getting on the same page and And you know, boom, and we're off. And if we don't see each other the whole day,

we're like ships passing the night. And we usually do see each other during the day because I work from home. My sons are unscooled. My wife said domestic engineer taking care of the goats and chickens and stuff like that. So we're kind of together, but separate most of the day. And then at the end of the day, we have a giant dinner party every night at our house

is like a giant party. Like we literally like me, you can meet in the kitchen at 7 and we cook an amazing meal and we'll sing songs and play the guitar and then bust out a game and literally just like play games for an hour, hour and a half, what we stuff our faces and we all clean together and then we go up to my son's room and I'll play some guitar or I'll read him a story and then we finish with meditation and that evening meditation is basically self-examination. An ancient practice that's super useful for stacking each day and making each day

consecutively better. And for that, we literally watch ourselves live our entire day like we're watching a character in a movie, you know, in the third person. And as you're watching that character of you in the movie of your day, which is something you can get better and better at. Like I can literally play out my whole day in 60, 90 seconds now, like what I do. I woke up, what I have a breakfast, who to talk to, you know, what assholes did I podcast with, who were drinking fake soda, what I have for lunch, and what I do in the afternoon. How

is my workout? So on and so forth. And then you're asking yourself three questions. What good did I do this day? What could I have done better this day? What did I fail at that I don't want to repeat tomorrow? And then where was I most purpose filled this day? And those three questions, not only help you to identify those areas where you're really contributing to the world. Those things that you don't want to repeat or fail at because, as you know, how we live our days is how we live our life. So examining each day really, really helps make each day consecutively better. And then the purpose filled one, I think is the best one because it's kind of surprising sometimes the things you're doing where you actually were happy and time was flying by and you felt like you were using your unique skillset and the things that you realize are not serving you or you should be delegating or outsourcing because they don't feel that purpose-filled. I was like, whatever, I used to write all my social media posts and I never once wrote

down that that felt purpose-filling in my journal. For me, purpose is doing a podcast or writing an article. And then something surprised, like, I feel purpose-filled when I'm cooking a meal for my family. I feel purpose-filled when I'm writing a song in the guitar. Right? So, and there's some stuff that come up in your journal that surprised you. You know, sometimes it's not something that's monetizable or part of your business. So, you know, that's kind of like the eke guy purpose part of the day. And, you know, that whole time we're doing breath work. And then we finish, say goodnight to the kids.

And we go to bed. So, I would say that in addition to that kind of book ending of the day, which is obviously not just my wife and I, you know, you're asking about relationships. It's more like a familial thing. The two other things that come to mind is every night, the last thing we do before our eyes close and we fall asleep is my wife and I pray together. A lot of times it's literally just like words slipping out of our mouth as our eyelids are fluttering and we're falling asleep. It's the very last thing we do. I can tell you that this kind of surprised me, because I heard a lot of couples who were married for a long time

prayed together every night before they went to bed. And I thought, oh, it makes sense, Kanna, you know, so like you just have some routine that you're relying on and some touch point. I wasn't convinced it had to be a prayer, but then I realized it's really hard to be spiritually yoked or like talk to a higher power or commune with the divine together if There's something some rar earth between you, right?

some argument you've had that on something that's between you and You'll pray and you'll feel like oh geez something's like fake and awkward here and so It almost forces you to make sure everything's set right before you go to bed, because you know the very last thing coming up is praying and you don't want it to be fake. You want it to be real and you want your heart to be pure. So we pray every night before you go to bed. And then once or or sorry, once a quarter or at the least once every half year,

my wife and I go somewhere for two to three days, sometimes it's a staycation, sometimes it's going to an exotic locale, sometimes driving to a town two hours from our house and checking into a roadside motel, but we will go and lock ourselves away and we will talk, we will journal, I'm going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing.

We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you about what we're doing. We're going to talk to you the things you're doing that annoy me about you, just everything laid out on the table, like truth's here.

Now, I have to admit that we started that process about seven years ago, and we started that process with drugs. So we would go take MDMA or we would, you know, do like a Sassafras or some other heart opener or you know, microdoseose together or just basically be in a different space mentally merge left and right brain hemisphere sit together facing each other in bed and these little chairs called back jack chairs legs intertwined sometimes for six to eight hours

talking we'd have recorders on the whole time recording everything we said it so we could play it back and transcribe it now we don't even need it's almost as though after you've done MDMA a few times with your lover or something like that, it's such a hard opener and you realize that you can be transparent until the truth no matter what, even without a substance in your system. So now it's kind of cool. We'll just go off and you know, sometimes we'll go out to dinner, have a glass to wine, whatever. But those quarterly retreats, those quarterly touch points that are intentional and built for family planning for coming together for checking in with each other on a much deeper level than we might on a random date night are, I think, super critical to our relationship

success. It seems like a lot of the things are trying to find a common thread between the stuff that's came up for you there is unearthing or not allowing malignant ideas or unspoken concerns or emotions or feelings to verbal under the surface without actually verbalizing them, whether that be as a part of the family, whether that be between you and your wife. I had Seth Stevens-Davidowitz on and he's this data scientist, right? But he has this great little quote where he talks about how we often mistake a familiar or comfortable activity for a valuable one. And it's kind of the same when you think about life as well that there are things that

you do just because they're routine. There are thought patterns that you have just because they're routine or because they're comfortable. Maybe it's always hitting snooze. Maybe it's always giving yourself a cookie after a meal. Maybe it's whatever. And without the ability to step back, measuring your thumb, measuring your cum with table spoons. If you don't give yourself the ability to step back and actually observe that and say, look, do I need to continue measuring my cum?

Should I be doing this in front of other people? Should I be bringing you up in a pool in Dubai? You never actually check in and realize, like, this is maybe something that I need to. So I love the idea. I love the idea of stepping back a little bit. That's cool, man. I really, really like it. Yeah. And it's, we have this, this rule of radical honesty and transparency in our home. There are obviously tons of values one could have as an individual as a family, but we spent some time a couple of years ago mapping out our key family values and forming not only a family mission statement, but like a family crest, like literally like an old

school medieval style crest that says dynasty shit hangs above our fireplace dynasty legacy Family logo. That's on you know the coasters and the throw pillows and these you know two flags on either side of our front door Any comp it's like a freaking you know your Lego castle with the with the greenfield family logo flying We've got like a hundred page document. That's the greenfield family playbook. What are we doing Thanksgiving? What are we doing Christmas? What do we do when the kids are eight, when's the birds in the bees talk happen? When do they do their right of passage into adolescence? When do they do their vision quest

and right of passage into adulthood? When are they quick getting money from mom and dad? When do they go on a service trip overseas? That's entirely other faced. What is the family mission statement and what does each element of the crest represent my 14 year boys already based on the concept of the Memento Mori. Have their entire death planned out, they have their funeral arranged, they have their memorial

service planned out. Everything is in this book. From end of life wishes, the family traditions, the family mission statements, the family values, to the family crest, all the way down to each of our individual family, you know, hex color logo and font type and spirit animal. The same guy. It's a branding guide for the Greenfield family. When my kids have kids, when they move out of the house, I'll be able to just hand them

this book. They can take it, they can run with it, they can improve on it. I think it's one of the best ways to kind of counteract that rags to riches to rags phenomenon. That's all too common. Where slow erosion of all of the good wisdom that you accumulate. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. What do they say? You might have to help me out with this one, Chris, because I don't remember it. So what is a hard man make good times, good times, make soft men, soft men make bad times, just like that. Yeah. good times make soft men, soft men make sad times, just like that. And it's kind of based on that concept of continually improving generationally as a family from a legacy standpoint rather than simply having things slowly degrade because there is no tradition, there is no built-in

playbook. I mean, you know, of course we have a family bank too. Every single member of our family has a whole lot of insurance policy. They have paid up cast editions every month. We literally have hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars for each family member socked away that any of us can borrow against using ourselves as a bank. Basically, that money that we borrowed can stay in the account being invested for whatever it needs to be invested for, but I can borrow money against myself at a very similar rate as I might be able to get competitively from a credit

union. And that money, the reason that I think it's more valuable is because it's going into an insurance policy. So even if my interest rate I'm getting on my loan from myself, might not be necessarily lower than I get from a bank or credit union, I've also got this massive cash policy if I die. So there's like that protection component worked in for me, for my wife, for our kids. So that family banking concept is really, really cool too. And that's just built in as part of the Greenfield family constitution.

You know, that's what a lot of families who pass on generational wealth. That's one thing that they'll use as a tool to do so. Yeah. I think that you're right. There's definitely something interesting about people no longer living usually with parents or near parents. Definitely not near grandparents. Most people, most kids at the age of 18, 22, something like that, they want to fly the nest.

But that, ancestrality, wouldn't have been the way that we would have typically lived. It would have been a pan generational household. It would have been multiple generations of the same family with extended families and second cousins, blah, blah, blah, all living under one tribe, one roof, maybe even in some situations, one blanket, you know, before we develop clothes. And I think- Sitting out on the front porch playing the banjo with your cousin who you just married, totally, man.

Let's speak for yourself. So look, one other thing that I've been considering a lot recently is the difference between training for aesthetics and training for health and longevity. And I think that if people haven't spent a little bit of time considering it, that those two things can often get confused, that people can think, I go to the gym, I do a push-pull leg splits, I make sure that I eat one gram of protein per pound of body

weight per day, I am doing both health and fitness and longevity and looking good all together. But what, this is going from your background, someone that did bodybuilding, someone that did endurance racing and triathlon and stuff like that. What are the biggest changes or what are the biggest holes in training protocols that guys and girls that go to the gym to train for aesthetics and missing if they want to benefit their health? What should they add in if they want to benefit longevity alongside the way that they look? Yeah, I would say that probably in addition to your question would be that training for aesthetics slash performance is not synonymous with health, right? So it's kind of both because some people who are doing CrossFit or Spartan Racing or Ironman

Triathlon and I experienced a lot of this myself racing, you know, 20 years in Ironman and, you know, four years in Spart, fitness, and athleticism are not necessarily synonymous with health, with fertility, with longevity, and often paradoxically to some people flying the face of those values. get fit and do an Iron Man triathlon. Don't convince yourself that it's healthy. You're going to be fit. You're going to look good in spandex. You're going to be able to go for hours on a bicycle and stare at the black line at the bottom of the pool for a really long time. But if your experience is anything like the thousands of people I've seen doing this when I look at the blood and biomarkers of these folks, you have thyroid dysregulation and endocrine system dysregulation and hypogonatism and males and you know amenoree and females and low bone density and rampant levels of inflammation and ironically like pre-type 2 diabetes in many of these folks sometimes based on their diet,

sometimes based on the stress component. So yeah it's definitely an issue. I think the main things that the majority of the fitness world in particular needs to understand. Let me think here, if I could boil it down to a few principles. A, the human body is innately good at endurance and aerobic based activity. Given proper amounts of food and water, we can outlast any animal on the planet. Humans have outrun horses, for example, in 100 mile races and you know, mountains in the west and we can go and go and go. There's very little need to train yourself with chronic cardio and mid-level aerobic activity for long periods of time at all. I tell most people one session a week, you know, where you're going out and maybe a hike where you're

sucking air just a little bit more or a bike ride to a neighboring town or a coffee shop or a long swim or something like that. You really only need a touch endurance once a week max. And fewer people in the kind of like meat-headie part of fitness do this, but still it's a big thing in endurance sports. People are doing way too much time with just like chronic repetitive cardio. The only type of chronic repetitive cardio you should be doing is walking Would that be zone two? Would you be it does that mean that you're not a fan of zone two cardio for people to spend whatever 180 minutes a weekend?

Zone two cardio Would be like the ancestral activity of hunting all day long or me walking on the treadmill while I'm talking to you It's obviously conversational. I'm not sucking air. A lot of people think they're zone two and they're way above it. And they're what I would consider. I wrote a book about this called Beyond Training. They're in what's called No Man's Land where they're training zone hard enough

to where you're not getting super fit. Or not so hard that you're getting super fit, but hard enough to where you're draining your body without much points, like junk training basically. So most people think they're a robot and you see them jogging down the side of the road with a poopy face on, you know, in the heat, with their fuel belt strapped around their waist. Now, most of the time, like, again, unless you're training for Iron Man triathlon and you've

accepted the fact that, okay, I'm trading in my health for performance because I want to cross the finish line of this Mount Everest I've built for myself fine. Like, just don't commit yourself to getting healthy. You're probably not. You produce arterial stiffness and inflammation, you know, heart disease and ventricular hypertrophy and a whole host of factors that they it's not healthy. So yes, on zone two, but for most people, they don't really

understand that zone two is literally like easy walk in the sunshine with your dog, right? Or maybe it's a little bit of yoga in the sauna or something like that. So the majority of your training should be super easy or super hard Right, so when you get in you just drainage also like my workout this morning in the weights was one took me 20 minutes one single set the failure for deadlift chest press pull down squat

overhead press and row each set took me about three minutes, right? So a lot of time under tension and you just go bam, bam, bam, bam, bang it out and that's my straight training session. I'm going balls out the whole time but I'm not I'm not sitting around at all, right? And the same thing for actual cardio training. Like my cardio workout yesterday was a headlittle like oxygen restriction device on. It was 30 seconds easy, 30 seconds hard for 20 minutes on the air dime and it sucked fast the whole time, right? But when you're done, you're done. So that's my philosophy. Go hard when you should go hard. And then everything else is just like hyper hyper easy

low level physical activity throughout the day. Now that being said, I think that in addition to excesses of endurance or when you do your strength training and your high intensity interval training, going for too long at a medium level intensity versus just going balls out and being done, the other mistakes that people make is not understanding that the human body is basically like a giant battery. Each of the cells operate at a precise electrochemical gradient across the cell membrane. There are books about this like the body electric

by Robert Becker or healing his voltage by Jerry Tennant. And the idea that your body is very electrically tuned is something that is largely ignored in context of modern fitness and health advice like men's health magazine or women's health magazine or whatever like they're establishing that fitness is important and movement is important and healthy movement is important they do a pretty good job doing that. A lot of them also have established someone healthy eating patterns where like eat naturally

as close to your as possible. And the doctor pepper for Fufi overpriced stevia water. You know, each adequate amounts of protein, healthy fats, he knows the tail meat. It's like, it's not rocket science to like eat more like our ancestors and avoid fake shit. Right. And I could tell you this stuff, but that's a giant echo chamber of advice and the whole nutrition podcasting sector. Everybody kind knows this stuff.

It's going to vary from person to person, but let's say you are eating well and you're moving well. When it comes to treating your body like a batter, that's not enough. There are other things that you can do. And I think that the most important things would be contact with the surface of the earth on a regular basis because you get this natural anti-inflammatory magnetic frequency that's emitted by the surface of the planet. Every time lightning strikes the earth, it collects negative ions, and these are then absorbed by your body when you're outside barefoot, when you're down there in Austin, swimming

in Barton Springs, when you're climbing a tree, when you're rock climbing, whatever most humans don't touch our planet enough. And there are books about this, like the book Earthing that has some really interesting data on how much that lowers inflammation, regulates your cadien rhythm, improves mood, improves performance, improves cellular health and longevity. So I think most people need to be from a fitness standpoint, touching the planet more. How long are you in the office? How often? Well 20 minutes to two hours a day if you can. I mean, I have a map that I sleep on all night long because there's this there's this field of of health technology called Pulse to Electromagnetic

Field Therapy, PEMF therapy. And you can literally like get mats in your office that are earthing your grounding mats or PEMF mats You can sleep all night So you can kind of turn your home into the equivalent of what you'd be absorbing if you were in a cave even if you're on like the You know 60th floor of a skyscraper downtown You can kind of like pull the earth into you using technology as well because a lot of these will plug into the grounding outlet of your living space or they will with controller create a frequency of anywhere from three to a hundred hertz,

which is similar to what the earth naturally met. So, there's that photons of light are also super important for that electrical component, because they're what excite, the electrically charged molecules, they traveling through your body. So, there's a lot of data behind the health benefits of things like near-for-head, far-for-red, and red light. In moderation, UVA and UVB radiation from sunlight, the use of even things like headgear that produces red lights and things like that for control of Alzheimer's and dementia and activating parts of the mitochondria

that are in neural tissue. You know, while back we mentioned red light, you know, on the testes and that does actually increase the activity of the latex cells and the testes helps to produce testosterone. Like, we are meant to be light creatures, you know, like light eaters, like collectors, the human body is kind of like a plant

in that context, which is crazy. Cause like if you consume chorella or like methylene blue or spirulina or any dark green or bluish compound and go out in the sun, you get an even increased activity of a lot of this mitochondrial upregulation. So your body does have a little bit like this plant esk aspects to it. So number two would be light Which again a lot of people in the fitness system are like they're indoors and gyms and not getting earthing and light I think that And I'm glad that this is catching on now Most people did not subject themselves to extremes of temperature enough extremes of heat and extremes of cold

A robust sauna practice as a deep sweat four to five times a week 20 to 45 minutes Be a barrel sauna could be an infrared sauna. What's so the temperature? Be a barrel sauna with, it could be a barrel sauna with infrared lights in it. Well, barrel sounds gonna be hot like 190 to 200. I have an infrared and it goes up to like 156. And because infrared light kind of penetrates the tissue,

you got to be in there a little bit longer, preheat a little bit longer, but I can get just as deep a sweat and infrared as I can in a barrel sauna. The only one I would be careful with is a steam sauna, unless you know the source of the water and whether or not the room is regularly checked for mold because you don't want to be breathing into your lungs, the steam from water that's got like chlorine and birth control chemicals and pharmaceuticals and all the stuff that collects in the municipal water supply, unless that's your jam. You don't want to be breathing that in when you're in a steam sauna.

So all of a sudden, it's like just ask the health company, you have a water filter here, and you know, if it's connected to the water, it goes into the same sauna. If nobody knows, I'm pretty careful with steam sauna, but barrel or infrared, so much data behind the benefits of that for cellular resilience and blood sugar control and cardiovascular health. And the same could be said for cold, like daily cold soak. Most of the data shows that you can either do shorter periods of time at very cold, which is what I do. I have a cold tub right outside the door here, 10 feet from here right now.

I keep it at 33 degrees. I get in there for one to two minutes, a couple times a day. You can also do longer soaks. It's got to be at least 55 degrees. And cold water immersion is better than crowd therapy chambers because of the hydrostatic pressure for the water against the skin and the fact that your head gets wet and both of those allow for either a decrease in core temperature that's more significant or an activation of the vagus nerve which is really good for your central nervous system in response to cold. So

heat and cold preferably cold water immersion really important. And then the last things I think that people in the fitness world forget, and again, all of this is related to treating your body in terms of increasing its electrical conductivity. Would be good, clean, pure water, preferably filtered, preferably as close to nature as possible, you know, out of glass, not plastic, you know, for example, gold standard would be, you know, for a water filter like double carbon block reverse osmosis with some type of remineralization added to it because a lot of those will strip the minerals from the water

So you add minerals back into it because those are what charge the blood but carry the electricity throughout the blood is charge minerals so water is something that kind of well kind of shocks me and I'll see somebody like do a hard work out and walk out and just like grab a plastic bottle of water. It was basically like dead water without minerals in it. A lot of times plastic and suck that down. People don't pay attention. Even people who pay attention to food. A lot of times don't pay close enough attention to water. I think I'm probably biased because my dad when I was growing up was a coffee roaster, a gourmet coffee roaster, and he used to repair espresso machines for a lot of the coffee shops that he'd work with. And he found that the major two factors that affected the flavor of the coffee were, of course, the sourcing quality of the bean, but then also the sourcing quality of the water that was used in these machines. He eventually got out of the coffee industry, and now all he does is

design water filters. So I've learned a ton from him, like he imports this crazy shit from Israel and these technologies like structure the water and like I'll go and visit his warehouse and he's got everything from like the coolest latest technology that spiralizes and vortices and mineralizes the water after it passes through reverse osmosis and double carbon block all the way down to like like icons of saints and holy water from lords and france and a tiny drop of that goes into each filter so he's got he's got it covered from the Wu to the scientific so I've learned a lot about water from him the importance of water I have to see what happens like the the

cattle at the feed lots that install is type of water filters or you know the people who use those type of central water filters. How so water and minerals are important. So come in full circle. I would say that if you're eating well you're moving well you're not over-training, not doing chronic cardio, you're eating close to earth, treat your body like a battery, and get outside barefoot to use some kind of earthy and grounding technology, get a ton of exposure to photons of light, get hot a lot, get cold a lot, be super picky about your water, and add minerals to your food and add minerals to your water,

and you will have a battery that actually works, and that covers the basis for like 95% of people who are already working out and eating healthy and feel like they're still not moving the dial. Dude, I love it, that's really, really nice. I also agree that I think it's cool that a lot of the fitness world is starting to converge on this sort of thinking. What is the most convenient or easiest way for people that think, wow, I really haven't considered much to the water that I use? Maybe they've got an

in-fridge filter, maybe they're using a bitter filter at the moment and they've considered that to be enough. Is that enough and if not, what is enough? What's the minimum viable water approval? Yeah, Veriz is not that great. Minimum viable. I've got no investment or financial affiliation with them, but there's a guy named Robert Slovak, who's pretty smart, who helped a company called Airdoctor, develop a countertop reverse osmosis system

that unlike a lot of countertop reverse osmosis systems or pitchers has of countertop or versus osmosis systems or pictures has special coding and special treatment inside the basin that allows it not to collect bacteria and mold. Which a lot of people don't realize builds up pretty quickly in countertop water filters. So I'd go with something like an air doctor. I think there's another very similar one.

It might even be the same company called AquaTrue like without ETRU. So you guys mispronounce it like Aluminium in the UK and we misspell shit like true in the US. But basically, what did I say, air? Air. Air doctor. An Aqua AquaTrue. Air doctor is the air filter. I think the same company makes. That's something.

But yeah, AquaTrue, Robert's got a website. I think it's water and wellness and they have those type of air filter, or those type of water filters there. So that's a pretty good solution. And there's some pretty decent, just like pour through water filters as well. Greenfield, Nashville is my dad's stuff, and he's got like a pour through water filter

that I'll travel with sometimes. Nice, okay. Final few things, ARX, I'll travel with sometimes. Nice, okay. Final few things. ARX, owned by Mike Polano. I've started training with him out here. He's sore. Dude, that thing is fucking what? Have you got one in your house?

Yeah, I do. Built different. It's crazy. It's like fighting a giant robot. I mean, look, you can do things like, you know, there's a guy named John Jakesh, he makes the X3 bar, which is kind of similar. It's like single a giant robot. I mean, look, you can do things like, you know, there's a guy named John Jakesh, he makes the X3 bar, which is kind of similar. It's like single set the failure resistance training with the super hard core elastic bands. You can do like a super slow routine set the

failure on Nautilus or if you're more functional with like dumbbells and free weights, but having like 25 freaking horses because that's what it is. It's 25 horse power engine that thing. Like you're basically fighting 25 horses with cables for the entirety of the set. You know some people will like trip with magic mushrooms and then look at psilocybin and say I never want to touch that shit again. It's kind of like that when you finish your work on the air ex. when you finish your workout in the A-Rex, you finish and you're like, I never want to do that shit again. And then like the sort enough subsides in three or four days, you're like, I'm back for more baby. It's a great time. I like it. Dude, it's so good. I'm very, very impressed with what those guys have done. I can't wait until it becomes a more widespread, you know, if you could get one in every airport in the country and you need to get a 20 minute workout in. Have you used the tone all before? What's that?

It's like the wall mounted space saver device. It's got like this eccentric function. It's kind of like, it's kind of like the AirX, but maybe think like one horsepower instead of 25. But it's like for people who don't want to spend like $50,000 on an exercise machine or hunt one day on their city, the tonal actually does a lot of that push pull against you.

The type of stuff that the AirX does. So that'd be another kind of like budget option for folks. I would say the tonal or the X3 bar would be the top two ways to kind of experience what we're talking about. If you don't have access to it, don't spend the money on the machine. Yeah. Ecentric training is just, it's it's it's absolutely wild. It's so efficient. One thing that you brought up early run that you mentioned about was some of the different ways that people can get themselves, give themselves a state change without using alcohol. What are, I know that you've made a diversion away from psychedelics and stuff like that recently.

What are some of the ways that you would say people could perhaps get themselves a little woozy on an evening time without dipping into alcohol? Yeah, obviously there's all sorts of crazy,ixirs out there and all these companies like, I don't know, Kim comes to mind as one that I'm aware of that has all these different new tropic and herbal adapters and like blends and those like kind of sort of work. It's pretty seldom I don't run into somebody who doesn't pour themselves a shot of that over ice and come back 15 minutes later and be like, hey, you got any, any rum bro? I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna drink.

However, that being said, I think there's two ways to go when it comes to actually feeling the socially lubricating and relaxing kind of like GABA, Urgic effects of alcohol without the toxic side effects of all the acid, all the high in shit. And I think number one is this company that makes ketones, which are kind of like alcohol, but don't get converted into the same damaging stuff. It's like a ketone ester, one three butane dial, dangerously close actually to one four butane dial, which is basically gamma hydroxybutyric acid, which is the old-school GHB. So you gotta be careful with this stuff. As a matter of fact, if you combine it with alcohol,

you're likely to refute yourself or whoever you serve the drink to. So proceed with caution, but they are made with one-three butane dial. They've got a Moscow mule flavor. They've got a gin and tonic flavor. They've got a new champagne flavor, which I honestly, they taste amazing,

they like champagne, which is super cool. And the company is called Chitone Aid, and that stuff works remarkably well, like surprisingly well to feel like you're on alcohol. But again, my brother came over to the house, he had a glass of wine, and he had one of those. And I made amazing steaks, and he was almost faced down in the table,

not even interested in eating. So, don't combine that with alcohol, but by itself, amazing. And then, the other would be more of a technology play. There's one company called Apollo. And one company called Hapbee. Apollo is a haptic-based wearable that will simulate the magnetic signature of, there's a few on there, like,

I like the one for like socializing at parties because it was actually by MDMA therapist so that one kind of simulates MDMA. Another signal will simulate caffeine. Another will simulate like a melatonin or relaxation. So you can wear that around your ankle. It's called the polo and just flip it on. And there's one called social mode

and you can use that as an alternative to drinking alcohol or in addition drinking Less alcohol and then the other one is called the half bee and that one simulates the Magnetic signature of a whole host of different molecules like caffeine and THC and nicotine like I have a focus mode I was working yesterday. It was called creative focus mode So it was giving me caffeine plus THC, but I didn't have to like drink a cup of coffee and smoke a joint while I'm working on articles.

So they're just like doing it through a magnetic center. So as soon as you take it off, it disappears. And a lot of people don't seem to feel it when they first use it. I don't really notice that much like two weeks. And I think that's based on the process of what's called entrainment, where your body kind of has to like get used to the signal. And then you just start soak it up like I hope a social worker doesn't wind up on my door by me saying this But I put it on alcohol and put it on my son parent dinner one night

And he just got like super loopy and hilarious and then he kind of like got quiet and started to like slump over in his chair After dinner and I took it off him and he was just fine. And so, you can, you can, using the magic and wonders of technology, get your children drunk legally, or use it for the purposes that you're asking about Chris. So you know, I'd say the Apollo, the Hapbee, or these ketone drinks are all pretty good for that.

Dude, I love it. Look, Ben Greenfield, ladies and gentlemen, what have you got coming up next? What can people expect over the next year? I'm writing a parenting book, really big one. There's kind of like tools of tightens or tribe of mentors, what I've interviewed about 30 of the most amazing parents I know will have really impactful children. I just like picked their brains and it's like the hardest book I've ever written because I'm basically, you know, like, she perting and cat hurting, you know, tons of different parents from divorce fathers to, you know, polyamorous parents to or polygamous parents to, you know, single mothers to homeschool Christian backwoods folks to, you know, liberal Bay area of parents. I was like,

getting everybody's advice. And I've condensed it into this book. Right now the manuscript is about 1400 pages so I'm kind of getting it cut down as I do with a lot of my books. I'm putting the stuff that I cut because I don't like to kiss my babies goodbye on the website for the book and so that'll live on. But the actual book will be like a kind of 650-ish page home on parenting with some of the best advice from some of the best parents on the face of the planet. And that's hopefully going to come out towards the end of this year. And it's going to be called Boundless Parenting.

So that's it. Things like BoundlessParentingBook.com right now. Dude, I love it. I really, really enjoy seeing the little arc that you're going through as well. You seem genuinely happy and fulfilled at the moment, which makes me feel fucking good to bask in the reflective glow of someone that's got stuff right. So I'm super happy for you,

and I appreciate the hell out of you. All right, man, well, go back to your come measuring and soda drinking, and I'll hold down the Florida Pair in Washington. I'll see you in October. I'll be down there in Austin, October. Yes, sir. See you soon.

All right, let it bra.