Modern Wisdom - #731 - Danny Polishchuk - Banned On Instagram, Britney Spears & Alex Jones

Episode Date: January 13, 2024

Danny Polishchuk is a writer, YouTuber, comedian and a podcaster. I was on tour in NYC so stopped in to see one half of The Boyscast and work out why hundreds of thousands of people were drunk and dressed as santa. Expect to learn why Instagram banned Danny from their platform, what's happening with Britney Spears & Taylor Swift lately, whether Danny thinks getting a vasectomy to save the climate is a good idea, if we have gone too far with being too protective from germs and pathogens, what the future of comedy looks like and much more... Sponsors: Get 15% discount on the best Colostrum from ARMRA at https://tryarmra.com/modernwisdom (use code: MODERNWISDOM) Get 10% discount on all Gymshark’s products at https://bit.ly/sharkwisdom (use code: MW10) Get $25 off a Manukora's best-selling honey, a travel pack of honey sticks, and more at https://manukora.com/mw (no code required) Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: http://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: http://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: http://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tiny policy shock hey how you doing buddy good man. How are you? I'm excellent. It's Sunday con at the moment. Mental. What is that? Ah, this is actually the first year I've ever been here for. Every other year, I've somehow managed to avoid it, but basically the worst people you know, dress up like Santa Claus, and they get hammered.

Like, it's what time is it right now? It's like three o'clock. Yeah, half way. Yeah, so they get hammered in the afternoon. Like, do you see the lines? Yeah. For the bars, like bars right now? It's like three o'clock. Yeah, half. Yeah, so they get hammered in the afternoon. Like, do you see the lines for the bars? Like bars right now are at, it's like, say, patty's day. We're kind of the lines right now.

So it's what this, like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar.

Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was a bar. Like, there was up. Everybody's dressed up. Everybody's getting like really drunk in the afternoon. Comedy on Santa, Santa Conde is like generally really bad.

Yeah. It's really bad because everybody shows up wasted and fights like. What's the demographic of people that attend Santa Conde? That's a good question. You know what? It's pretty diverse. Like I was looking around. Yeah, it's like you're looking, you're like it's a bit know what, it's pretty diverse. Like I was looking around.

Yeah, it's like you're looking, you're like, it's a bit of everybody. It's pretty wild. But yeah, so because it took me just a lot longer to get over here for my house. And I was wondering, I'm like, what is going on? And then I start kind of, you know, I was listening to like my audio book

and then I'm looking around and I can see all the Santa Claus hats I go. And then when I got out of the same, right? Yeah, but then when I got out, I go, okay. It's happening. Have you got your IG back yet? No, And then when I got out of it. Yeah, but then when I got out, I go, okay. It's happening. Have you got your IG back yet? No. What's happened?

Tell us the story. Essentially what happened is, there's, like I know some people who are kind of high up fairly in the world of technology. A lot of people have a lot of opinions, but essentially on October, we actually figured out last night, it might be as a result of you actually.

Fantastic. Yeah, yeah, we think be as a result of you actually. Fantastic. Yeah, yeah, we think that's like my new current theory. So on October 8th, I've had an Instagram account for 12 years, never had a post taken down. Nothing, no issues at all. Then on October 8th, I got logged into Instagram and it says your accounts permanently suspended for sexual solicitation. Which is essentially what they get for like only fans' girls, right? I'm like, what the hell?

This must be a mistake, right? So I appeal it, and in Instagram, there's just like a blue button that just says, would you like to appeal? And I press the button, and then one minute later, they say, we've denied your appeal. And then there's, but they say, if this is a mistake, you can write a little like kind of blurb to them. So I write a thing, I get it back. And I've been posting some content, remember like basically the thing

that you showed Doug, let's move on. Yes, yes, yes, yes. About the gaze for Gaza. Gaze for Gaza stuff, right? And I was making fun of those people. And you'd have to think that a lot of people who probably work in content moderation and that met probably side more with those people than me

than the person making fun of those people, right? So anyways, I get it back. Two days later, exact same thing happens. I get suspended again, same thing. And I'm going pretty hard on like, you know, posting about the Israel Palestine conflict. Again, same thing happens. And then, get it back again, though.

And then on November 8th, which would be one month ago, exact same thing happens. This time though, I pressed that blue appeal button, lose one minute later, and there's no option for me to... Like strikes in your out. I guess, right? And so, and then we were talking last night, because he brought up the thing,

and then I went, and you posted that thing on November 6th that went super viral. Now I don't know if it's related because I was obviously having issues before that but I have like a target on my back. I'm like, how do you fucking splash his own dead? I guess, but I met a like they put a target on me

and so I have one friend who thinks either it's some content moderator there who just like doesn't like me he saw that I had a bunch of stuff like going viral. And they're just like, we gotta get rid of this guy. Someone, my one friend thinks that maybe someone actually literally paid money because there's this whole black market, like underground economy with, um, like Instagram and because I think it's related to the only fan stuff because only

fans girls, they promote only fans on Instagram, make tons of money, then they get kicked off, but then they're happy to pay $2,000. It was what I have to pay to get. Just to maybe get my thing about, yeah, it's just like a tax, and they're happy to pay. Wasn't the, like, rumors that these girls would offer to suck off.

Yeah, there was. Well, that apparently kind of put a wrench in, because this is the one girl who went on no jumper, and she's like, I've been kicked off like 10 times, and I just keep going like, fucking some guy at Instagram, and keep getting it back. And so, that'll be up next. Yeah, that's my, that'll be my Hail Mary,

because I'll tell you what, very difficult to be a work in comedian without Instagram. I mean, that's where everybody kind of consumes, you know, it's funny because it used to be probably 10 years ago, maybe Twitter, and then but now Instagram, TikTok, those are the kind of places. I see any comedians doing shit on Twitter. Yeah, I mean, it's just not that kind of, I posted, like I posted my whole special, my most recent special, it's on Twitter.

All right, cool. And you know, whatever I have, like a decent amount of views on it, but most recent special, it's on Twitter. All right, cool. And you know, whenever I have like a decent amount of views on it, but it's just, that's not the place that drives people that maybe go see you live or consume you in comedy content. It's a different type of person on Twitter. It's just a different, like I was actually on the train over here and I saw, I've been noticing it more because I take the train in New York.

I'll look at like what people are doing on their phones. And very recently, I've noticed more people are on Twitter than ever before. I never used to see people on Twitter. Interesting. They'd be on Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat or whatever. And now I do actually see people on Twitter. But anyway, so I'm currently in the process of paying

some guy and then hopefully I get it back. Hey, if you know how to fix Instagram accounts, getting just the thing. The crazy thing is I've had a number of people say like I have a hook like my friend works at Netta or whatever and then they're like yeah, they tried through their internal recovery system and they're like upholding your band. They're like you really pissed somebody off. Did I have a friend who was trying to get his own one visa to come up to America?

Already had his visa. I was trying to get his O1 visa to come over to America, already had his visa. I was trying to flip it again, again, in like whatever the conservative leaning fucking world and someone somewhere did a thing, like press the button that just delayed his entire visa by nine months. Like you can like put a question in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a request for, at the same visa I have.

Take a bullshit, like a request for more information or something visa I have. You say like a request for more information. Nine months of just like, hey, get fucked, you don't get to come back in the country. Yep, yep, yep, yep. It's weird, it's weird. So I'm so non-conspiratorial with like most of the shit that I think about, but then even at a low level, like bullshit like that.

Yeah. So that's just some guy, like it's got a vendetta that's already unhappy. Yeah, it's just someone saw something trending that was, you know, because I had like, when I got kicked off, that's a thing. You'll get kicked off once you're kind of popping off, right? And then there's more.

Nobody cares about this person. Nobody cares about this person. Exactly, right? So, but, so anyways, I had a few things, and yeah, someone just see something go, I don't like this guy, I work at Metta. And go fuck yourself, yeah. And just, and I guess I'm not quite at that,

you know, if you were massive a million followers, probably a little more different. Yeah, this is a zone in the middle. Big enough to be noticed, not so big that you can't reach people to like getting, right, and so, and I mean, a lot of people here about it that I know and they're like, cause here's the craziest thing about the algorithm,

which people do not realize, is the algorithm decides what you see, right? Obviously, because it's not like a chronological, but because it decides what you see, people are so programmed that like, so when I got deleted, people don't know my accounts deleted. I'm just, they just forget you exist, right?

They don't know you're gone. Like literal family and stuff. Like my, my, my fiance's cousin was like, why isn't Danny posted anything in a month? Like she messaged her, she goes, why isn't Danny been posting anything? And she's like, oh, we got kicked off. It's the same as someone dying.

It's like the digital equivalent of being an excommunicator. Yeah, it's like excommunicated, but like people don't even, unless they're like the die hard, die hard fans. They're looking for you. They're like looking and then they look, but otherwise, I mean, not even that, so some people were,

I was getting DMs being like, is this actually you? They don't even believe it. Like they're like, they don't even, and I even, my bio says like, yes, deleted, this is me, blah, blah, and then, but you're not verified anymore. And so it's, it's mental. Wow. Yeah, that's crazy.

That's crazy. I had Whitney Cummings on the show about a month ago, and I was super impressed with her. She's very, very impressive. She said to me, before I went on tour, in order for art to imitate life, you have to live a life. And it was her explanation for why comedians just talk about airports, dinner, and comedy. Because if you're on the road, that's all you know.

And this was a month ago, and since then, all I've done is be on the road. A month or a month? All I've done you're on the road, that's all you know. And this was a month ago, and since then, all I've done is be on the road. A wonderful month. All I've done is be on the road. And I've found myself having conversations with my friends about all that I've got to talk about is airports and check-in and luggage and shows and what I had for dinner last night. And that's it.

I mean, when that's your life, that's your life, right? It's so strange. Yeah, yeah. I know. Sometimes you will have a joke, something happens at the airport, and you're like, it's the most comedian comedy ever.

Right, and you're like, but this is still is funny, but yeah, it is that kind of thing. You're like, yeah, you have, and that's why I do try and make a point of doing stuff. You know, like traveling and having a life, and like traveling not for comedy, you know, because a lot of comics were like,

yeah, I'll go somewhere if I'm doing a show, but- Did you do Asia recently? Uh, recently no, I've been, I've been to Southeast Asia, though, I spent, I spent, I spent, like, 15 years ago. I spent a lot of time there. Oh, okay, yeah. But yeah, I've been, I've been thinking about that.

I can kind of say, I know that it's, everyone hates it, it's like comedians just talking about comedy and, oh, you know, the, the crowd and the venue and all the rest of the stuff, but if that's like the fucking front and center of your life. Yeah, what else is that? I will say the one thing about Twitter which there's like this compulsion Which I'm sure you've had and I try to avoid it at all costs is to publicly blast some company

Like that's wrong to you because you're like I don't even know if there's any real reason to have Twitter other than the Pot like to be able to you because you're like, I don't even know if there's any real reason to have Twitter other than the pot likes. To be able to call out a right- To call out, yeah, you know, we're like, oh, and sometimes they're like, oh, they really, and you're like, I could really just make a stink right now and feel, it's like a dopamine rush. So righteous, yeah, as you do it,

mate, it's, I don't know. There's definitely an upper bound on how many times you can get away with doing that. There used to be an account called at DJ's complaining, which was just all like, Tiesto arguing with his bags not being allowed to be carry on and stuff like that. And the problem is sometimes it does work.

So then you're kind of positively reinforced to the way you would get. Yeah, keep going. It's the internet equivalent of do you know who I am? Yeah, exactly. It's the Twitter equivalent of. do you know who I am? Yeah, exactly. It's the Twitter equivalent of, yeah, and I mean, if you're a big enough account, some airlines like, oh, we don't need this,

bad publicity. But really, what's gonna happen? The guy that looks after the social media is gonna find the flight that you're on and like, tweet the air hostess to say, hey, make sure that he's allowed to have his nuts or you can do it in a second. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, it's not. Yeah, it's, and it it normally they're like weather delays, you know, where it's actual frustration, where like they can't do something like, you know, it's shaking your hand to the fucking moon. I'm not trying to defend airlines, but sometimes these, you know, it is like a pointless thing. Obviously, sometimes they lose your luggage or something.

It's kind of the equivalent of like an internet caron in a way to just be like, I am fucking, well logistics. I guess the ideal scenario is you tweet a thing and then there's stock price drops 10%. And you're like, I just cost them $4 billion. Who was it that was it, was it Christie on Ronaldo that moved a Coke can? I think away from in front of him,

who was it, who was it, Christie on Ronaldo? Oh, and like replace it with like a gatorator or something. Yeah, like there was a Coke can in front of it. I'm sure it was Christie on Ronaldo, maybe a couple of years ago, and he just got the cannon moved out of shot and their stock price plummeted. Dude.

Chris Yonron Aldo, fucking knew it. I knew it. Have you been watching the Britney Spears arc recently? Yeah, I mean, I was day one being like, they should not be removing this conservative ship from the jump. So this is very much chickens coming home to roost. I mean, she obviously, have you ever heard the saying with child stars where like the point

that you become super famous is the point where you stop developing like as a person essentially. So it's like, that's why Michael Jackson was a 13-year-old. Interesting. So she's like a six-year-old. She was like super Disney club, whatever Mickey Mouse club, and maybe whatever she got really famous, but she's like a child. And then, it kind of tracks, not for everyone, obviously,

but it kind of does track, but yeah, you see, I don't know if she's on medication or anything, but you can just see it in the eyes. Should I, the eyes or should be? Yeah, but you can see it in the eyes. Should I, the is or should be? Yeah, but you can see it in the eyes. Like there's not a lot of activity in the eyes. So it makes me feel uncomfortable. Like I don't follow her,

but you know, you just stuff surfaces. My fiancee constantly loves her and constantly, because love search is like watching it like a slow motion car crash. Honestly, chicks, like, they know not like a slow motion car crash. Honestly, chicks, like, they know not like a slow motion car crash. But if your, like most girls are pretty empathetic and emotionally tuned in and can see what's going on,

how do you not look at Brittany and go, this person needs some fucking help and also needs to stop posting selfies of her dancing in her hallway. Yeah, yeah, and she looks mental. I mean, the one with the knives that I don't know ofna like the meme and stuff. Britney Spears, put suicide family drama to post a racy Instagram video of her running

her hands over her body while promoting Victoria's secret bras and underwear. Yeah. It's like, I've watched this video. Yeah, yeah. It's like her in bed. Yeah, it's like my girl sent that to me. She just said, fuck is going on. But when they say promoting like Victoria's secrets,

like you don't want to say anything. Yeah, we're like, we're not doing it. I'm just wearing it. Yeah, yeah, just wearing it. Yeah, just wearing it. Just wearing like, I'm holding clients. It's like Calvin Klein podcast.

Yeah, I mean, she seems like she's got something mentally going on. I don't know. Like does she tour anymore? Does she have like a residency? I don't know. I don't think that she's done a show in a while. A very long time. Yeah. But he's the other thing. All of her videos are filmed on what looks

like a 2011 Blackberry. Yeah, which doesn't give, like, sane. No. That's like the Android. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Come on. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what needs to happen with her so that people are concerned, but, you know, it sounds like she had this conservatorship for a reason. Yeah, there was a real reason for it. But when the tide's turned in public perception, yeah, that's true.

People want to kind of get behind the person who has an overbearing parent and- Father specifically, it's like man versus woman in this as well. Yeah, it takes all of the boxes. Yeah, so did you see, do you know, I'm meet Canyon, do you know that guy? He does those illustration videos. Oh, yeah, yeah, he's really great. Yeah, yeah. So he's got a second channel called Papa Meet, which is pretty good. And he did a reacting to Swifties thing. Yeah.

He ended up getting tons of death threats. Oh, yeah, they're crazy. So I mean, Britney Spears, I maybe has some fans and that conservative ship thing was like people were chasing after that. The, at least the advantage you have if you do criticize Britney Spears is, her fans aren't rabid and totally current, like everyone's kind of just like historical fans. Yeah. Taylor Swift has very motivated, but I don't believe it would be motivated fans. So yeah, he had full on death threats from what I'm saying. Well, because Bernie Spirits doesn't have 13 year old fans.

Yeah. Right. And those are like the 13 year old girls, maybe the meanest. Meanest iteration of a human that can possibly to get on the other side of that. Yeah. It's like a mass and then 13 year old guy. Like if you get like get a, you know Like if Taylor Swift became like Muslim or something,

like Islamic jihad, the West would fall. We'd be done. Yeah, I saw a video, this was before the most recent tour kicked off, and someone had taken one from inside of a stadium. You know, you're in the gangway, and you kind of walking around the side, and maybe like kind of high up,

and you could hear the music and see the crowd, and she's videoing the crowd inside the stadium, and they're all singing along and stuff. And then she pans to outside, where there's a car park, and there's 40,000 people in the car park, singing along with the show that they couldn't get tickets to get into.

Oh, but I mean, my friend, he has a six-year-old daughter and his daughter was like, I wanna go in Toronto, see Taylor Swift and he went and looked and took us, we're like, two tickets, we're $5,000 to get in, just to get in. We're not talking. Like, I mean, the Roger Seller.

Roger Seller, well, it's all resale because it's like all scalpers by them so you see the only way to get them really other than like this lottery, but everybody was complaining. I mean, it made it... This is in the Congress. This is in the Congress. To being like in Sub-Saharan Africa and wanting American visa.

Yeah, pretty much. But it made it to like Congress was even talking about it because the scalpers were getting them all. And then the markup was so insane. Like it was... We actually had a guy who on our voice cast Patreon called in... Or like not called sent in a message and he had wanted advice. I actually had a guy who on our Boyzcast Patreon called in, or like not called sent in a message, and he had one of advice, and he's like,

I wanna go, I have tickets for Taylor Swift in Denver, and I wanna take this girl on a first date, and then we looked up the resale price. He's like, should I take this girl on a first date to Taylor Swift, and we looked up the resale price, and they were like $2,000 a ticket. And I'm like, you can't take a girl on a first date. That cost five grand, like after, or whatever,

I have four grand, and then everything else, I'm like, no, you just can't do that. I'm like, sell it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, they just, I mean, they're opportunists, and they, but they have all these crazy, like, programs and stuff that are able to. Ed Sheeran had a thing, I'm pretty sure you had to submit ID

for each individual ticket. Yeah. Yeah, they're some that do that where you have to, I can't remember who, but you have to show ID. She's gonna make a billion dollars from this tour, I think. Yeah, it's like the most, already the highest grossing tour in history. Yeah, that's, I mean, good for her, yeah.

Fucking wild. I don't, I don't listen to it, but I'm in. I'm not the type of person to, you know. Dude, there was a, That's her in that. People should go watch that Papamete video once I finished with this. It's pretty fucking interesting. She did a movie.

There was, I could tell you this with movie. Yeah, yeah, there was a concert. Yeah, I think so. Maybe, and there was like, maybe behind the scenes, two of Vlog a Taylor Swift movie. Yeah, yeah, there's like a concert. Yeah, I think so maybe I knew it was like maybe behind the scenes tour vlog or some other stuff. And they must have given out like LED batons. So it's kind of half like a party. Yeah. In the cinema,

whilst it's also the thing on the TV and there's videos from inside and the credits are rolling. And the girls have got out of their seats and they're stood underneath the fucking projector, like dancing in a circle credits are rolling and the girls have got out of their seats and they're stood underneath the fucking projector like dancing in a circle holding hands. It's like halfway between a rave, a saiyans, a fucking sermon. My friend Alex Byron, he's a comedian in Canada. He did a video where it was out at one of these movie showings or whatever, and for Taylor Swift. And then he kind of like picked his spot where it was just before it was starting

and everybody, they were waiting for it to start. And then he came in and pretended that he was work, he worked for the theater and go, sorry, everybody. But we're having an issue with the with the projector. So there's going to be we're not going to be showing the Taylor Swift. But it said we'll be showing the John Mayer documentary or whatever, and then his girlfriend, just to get it started,

his girlfriend started throwing it because she was filming, she started throwing stuff at him. And then people were like, boo, and going insane. Yeah. Hahaha. Pretty funny, baby. We went to, we were this one,

we went to a cheesecake factory and it was the night of the Barbie movie. Jesus Christ. So I didn't know that the Barbie movie was getting released that night. Okay. And we went to Groveness Center, what's it called? The Grove, the Grove.

The Grove, no. Okay, no, yeah, dude. So we get out of the car and it's just armies of women in pink. Yeah, like New York was like that. That's it. Fucking platoons of them. Yeah, did you see it? I didn't see it.

No, I haven't seen it. No, I don't see movies like I used to. Yeah, well it bums me out. They recently did a Killian Murphy and Margot Robbie did a like thing together. Like an interview, I think it was a vanity fair or variety or something like that, where they like finally got those two,

like the barbenheimer thing to have a conversation about each other. I got a vasectomy due to climate grief. Yeah, the CBC, right? He just talked about it. What do you think? I mean, the natural logical conclusion is if you were so worried about human impact on climate, you kill yourself, right? If you really care, right? Like isn't that like, okay, well, you know, if you want to get a vasectomy, I can do you one further, right? It's crazy. I mean, these people are mental. They're, their brains have been so destroyed with this like anxiety and fear about the future. Like, you know, civilization, humanity is not the type

of thing you want to bet against. Like, it kind of always finds a way, you know? Like, everybody's like, oh my God, we're doomed. Like, this doom or is it? It's probably existed forever. There's never, and you know, and yet here we are. So I don't know. What do you think about it?

For about a year and a half, I'd been offering to get a vasectomy to do more than just talk about how the world didn't need any more humans. In and around our old Nova Scotia house, I'd periodically make that horizontal sivamime as sivamime to reiterate my offer, news of rising temperatures on the kitchen radio,

finger snip, Atlantic Ocean looking more and more disturbed, finger snip, even back then in 2007, the North Atlantic hurricane season was intensified due to climate change. Snip snip. Darryl, my then partner called out from a few rows back in a crowded flight. We'd originally been seated together but relocated so a mum could sit with her kids when I look back over the packed seats amidst the roar of burning engines. She smiled at me and mine to Cizaca with two fingers. Yes, she finally said, in a gesture, gesture understandable only to me.

My then partner called out. This sounds like a guy who did and now is no longer with the person who... Yeah, also an interesting thing here because this is an ultimate in virtue signaling, obviously, to say like, I'm saving the planet by not reproducing and then they insisted on including... No, but they insisted on... It No, but they insisted on it.

It's interesting. They insist on including, which is unnecessary, that they were not. They were sitting separately because they had to give up their seats so a mother could sit with their child. Like that's like a weird thing. You're like, okay, you didn't have to say that other than you just have to be the best, the best human possible. And everybody else who's reading this is just scum.

That's part of why it was so thrilling when my now wife, Giselle, voluntarily mentioned, not wanting kids on our first date. Three years later, we got married and moved in a kind of working honeymoon to sweaty equatorial Singapore. Admittedly, our next four years of travel around Asia made us more a part of the climate crisis problem

than the solution. Basically, I decided to carbon offset my destructive selfish lifestyle by not propagating my own DNA and instead traveled the world. This is like a borderline onion article. Yeah. From not that long ago. And this is a CBC.

This is a Canadian broadcasting. This is government-funded propaganda right here. Did you see, I came up with this idea of toxic compassion? Do you read my little... No, I haven't seen it. Alright, so toxic compassion is the prioritization of short-term emotional comfort over everything else, over truth, reality, actual long-term outcomes, flourishing everything. It optimizes for looking good rather than doing good.

People would rather claim that body fat has no bearing on health and mortality outcomes to avoid making overweight individuals feel upset, even if this causes them to literally die sooner. I have a worse quality of life. People would rather say that children growing up in single-parent households suffer no worse outcomes than those from two-parent homes, even if this misled parents, children and teachers about why kids behaved the way they do. Campaigners would soon as shout defund the police as a response to what they perceive as unfair treatment of criminals, even if there's results in more crimes being committed against people from those minority backgrounds

due to the abandonment of police officers from those areas. So it's people that say what they think sounds good, but ultimately might net a negative outcome. Peterson said it's the prioritization of short-term emotional comfort over long-term thriving. It's going to hurt now, but the consequences, long-term are positive. Yeah, you just don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. But you disregard what the actual long-term outcome is.

The same as with this. Yeah, bloke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, I'm actually just listening right now to Jonathan Heith, the coddling of the American mind. And they talk about, like he's talking about all the safetyism stuff, where essentially it has these actual negative outcomes, because some kid got abducted in the 70s, and then they essentially were clamping down so hard on kids that it actually made them worse off, because you don't let them go outside, because like, you know, obviously it's tragic

that a kid got abducted or whatever. There was actually, he talked about, I can't even believe this, I had to look it up yesterday. In 2015 in Missouri, this family, in order to teach their six year old a lesson about not going with strangers abducted him and like renditioned him and from like a mall and they put like a bag on his head

and then they took him. Like a mock execution. Like basically like the craziest lesson you could ever imagine. And then this trauma is going to teach you not to let it happen again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't go home with strangers or whatever. And like, I don't even think he did.

Like, I don't think there was an incident. They just abducted him to kind of teach him this lesson, you know, kind of get ahead of it. Preemptive, well that's the fucking horseshoe of like helicopter parenting, that it comes back around to just super extreme mistreatment of your kid. Yeah, in the guys of, you know, I'm helping them,

you're like, this kid is gonna have this trauma for a year. The other side that's like, oh yeah, my kid will be fine. It's like, it's the same idea. My kid will be fine. My kid will be fine with me mock fucking abducting him from this thing. But there's no shortage of those kids who were like,

yeah, my parents worked and, you know, I had a lot of autonomy in those. I was fine. I seemed to be okay. I was fine. Maybe I got a little bit of trouble, but you see the stuff about peanut allergies, the increase in peanut.

That was another one. And John and I think was because they tripled the amount of peanut allergies because they removed peanuts. Yeah, so if you grow up in a household that has a washing machine, like a dishwasher, that doubles your chances of asthma, and if you grow up in a house that has a dog, it harps your chances of asthma because you just get exposed to dirt. So basically, you're double and then you double again, the chances of it. Why the dishwasher?

Dishwasher presumably just cleans. It's just this environment. It's just this environment. Yeah. It's such a sterile way that you don't get the tiny little doses of germs and the same for dogs, dogs coming in and out, bringing dirt in, like playing in the grass, etc. Yeah.

So yeah, there's just ways where you can sterilize the environment so much that instead of it making kids and people safer, what it does is create such a protected environment that there is no where, that they never deal with any kind of discomfort. And this is culturally, ideologically, psychologically, mentally, emotionally, the exact same thing we see with toxic compassion. Yeah. I mean, I'm waiting for the shoot to drop on hand sanitizer being bad for you. You think? There's so many things we were to me Ryan were just talking about it how all the stuff they used to be bad for you Is now good for you like remember? I don't know but like my mom was very much even still

Chosen come around to you know, it's like you got to eat breakfast You have to eat breakfast is like you'll you'll die You'll have if you don't eat breakfast now everybody's like don't eat breakfast It's like you got to eat now everybody's like fasting like you know, it's all the stuff. It's literally bro science has beat down mom science and mom science is just kind of reeling but it just I don't know I won't be surprised if it'll be something similar with the hand sanitizer where they go people are hand sanitizing too much and it's causing Rise and warmer downstream from that. Yeah, well, we we've been doing these meet and greets after the show, which is really great. But you do realize that like,

if anybody of these 600 people that I've just shook hands and taken a photo and like hugged or like, like a slap-five with, if any of them, it's like, I've just got it all. We did get COVID, all of us got COVID separately. James and Australia Luke and the UK, me and Austin. We all got COVID about two months before the show, at the tour began, and we were like tour antibodies,

like fuck yeah, like we've done it, I'm gonna be immune. Me, JT went on tour and just got wrecked by like other, like different viruses. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the nature of how it goes, but yeah, I don't know. It's unavoidable. Like I was just on the train over here. One thing I still find so difficult to understand

is couples were ones masked and ones not. Because surely the one that's unmasked will then give you whatever you're trying to avoid, right? Like am I missing something? But I see it all the time. You're like a couple were ones masked. But like how you're gonna get in the same bed tonight? Yeah, like you're gonna kiss later.

So I don't know, I don't know. Maybe there's someone who's way smarter than me who can explain that to me. Cause I see it all the time. Like I saw it literally just on the train right over here. We were in Bantanth in Alberta. Yeah. Yeah, there was people walking out and about

in what looks like the cleanest air in the world. Oh, it's like that, yeah, you can like, yes, it's the best. The furthest air on the planet. And yeah, people still outdoor masking, which I didn't, I did reflect on this a little bit. Like how I feel now about like someone in a car on their own or something, you know, when people wore masks

and cars on their own, someone out and about in fresher, at this stage of post pandemic, like fucking non-case risk, it doesn't make me think people who were so vehement against any masking ever, like no one should ever have to do it. It's like, well, maybe just my judgment of the situation is that my sensitivity needed it to be a few years later.

Yeah. Whereas they were like, even now in the midst of it, even though we don't know it, that's like how. And I mean, do what you want. You know, like this is America. Like that's the most ethos of this country is, it's more it's like, if you want to wear a mask in a car, like that's your right.

It's the problem was when they were saying, you have to knew it. And then people's like, if you want to wear a mask in a car, like that's your right. The problem was when they were saying you have to knew it and then people are like, okay, well, that's very much on American, you know, to make anybody do anything. But, I mean, have you spent any time in Asia? Yeah, a little bit. So since COVID. But so they've been, you know, like I traveled in Asia 15 years ago and you'd walk around

and everybody's wearing masks. Yeah, that was for a quality and stuff, right? Well, air quality and I think they had had some kind of smaller pandemics and they just are generally, and I do think if you are very strict about it and proper, I'm sure it does somewhat lower your risk of getting ill to a stomach degree. Well, there's like time degree. He could play a pretty good game.

I just don't care that much. We could play quite a good, we actually did play a pretty good game of Asian or COVID, which is like why they wearing the mask. Is it because of like historical air quality? Yeah. Or is it because of COVID? Yeah, I heard in Thailand actually,

someone explained to me that some people, because they wear these really big masks that go like literally here. And it's because they, their class system, like many other places, is the more tanned you are. The lower class you are. So it's at and skin whitening's huge in Thailand. Dude, I went to Thailand. I saw this. The girls that worked at the front of the restaurants, the secretaries for like offices, for massage places, all of that stuff would have like lighter skin, but you can see there's a line here and it's, it just completely drove home how culturally inculcated I was in the UK. For me to look at that and say, how strange, like

purposefully making your skin lighter because people who work in the fields are seen as like indigent laborers, that means that they're of lower status. The people who have white college jobs that work indoors, they don't get tan. How silly that you were trying to lighten your skin. I go back to Newcastle upon time, the place where the British version of Jersey Shore was filmed, Jordy Shore,

to see girls make their faces fucking orange, to like give the appearance of, you know, spend time outside and I can go to Mar Bayo whenever I want. And it's the exact same, but in reverse. Yeah, that's pretty funny. And I just didn't see it. I was like, how strange,

as I go back to Newcastle to get caked in fake time. Right. I guess it's the quickest way to signal something, right? It's just visually. Visually, like, it's the equivalent of wearing a Rolex. Yeah, but for such a strange quirk, I'll never forget one of my friends who's a DJ. I told me this story, we kind of the, you said, like cultural thermometer of what you're used to anchoring off and what you actually, you go to someone new and everything's upside down, fucking bar stores being turned around. He went and played a gig, DJ gig in South America.

He's a DJ, he parties, he wanted some cocaine. He's like, I mean, like fucking Ecuador or Argentina or Colombia or some shit, he's like, I'm fucking, that source is here. Yeah. Like the fountain of cocaine is here. So he goes to the promoter and he's like, when you get me some cocaine and he looked at him, I was like, are you sure? So yes, I would like some cocaine.

He's like, oh, fucking hell man, I mean, I can get you some, but he was thinking, oh God, like, maybe there's gonna be police, maybe there's like the fucking hell man, I mean, I can get you some, but he was thinking, oh God, like, maybe there's gonna be police, maybe there's like the prison sentences for it are really high, or it's like very high, you know, we're gonna involve us on some gang stuff. What it turned out was that people who do cocaine

in these areas, it's seen as super dirty, it's seen as a scummy drug. But was it 3 TB or something? What's that about? 2 TB. Yes, 2 TB, 3 TB. something? What's that? Yes, 2 TB, 3 TB. Yeah, the pink staff. 2 TB, yeah, 2 TB is seen as the high class. Yeah, yeah.

Because it's so hard to get a hold of down there. So the drug is the same. And in fact, probably of way better quality than the stepped on shit that you'll buy. Oh, not even a question. But because the cultural position, like the map of that particular terrain, was like, this is easy and cheap to get. So it just completely shows that the value of the thing is not intrinsic of the thing. It is the difficulty of acquisition and the price.

Yeah, yeah. And like, 2CB is like, it's like hot. If you've ever seen it, it's hot pink. Yes. Like, this a weird thing. Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. I don't know. I had this guy on my calling show, Yoran Grillo, if you ever heard of him. I do know him.

Yeah. He's great. He's amazing. I was talking to him and he's like a narco reporter in Mexico or whatever. And he was saying actually, yeah, cocaine is like popular, but it's not the most popular drugs actually, I think math right now.

And they have no issues, because all the fentanyl comes over the border, but they have like no issues with fentanyl there. Like the biggest one is place in Philadelphia. Have you heard of trink? Yeah, yeah. Trink's like fentanyl's fentanyl. It's for people.

Like make you like skin peel and just people, yeah, like bits of you drop off. It's like leprosy in a drug. Yeah, and yeah He went to this place in Philadelphia and filmed this I'm on like a campaign to get Douglas Murray acquired by the daily Why yeah sat down with Jeremy boring the CEO and I was like dude you need to acquire Douglas Murray So anyway fucking Jeremy watching go and do it But Douglas went and filmed this thing he hasn't released it yet But yeah, he went to Philadelphia and apparently like, Trank has just taken over the city. So like

fentanyl, heroin, not enough, fentanyl, not enough. And then there's car fentanyl, which is even more potent. So fentanyl's fentanyl. And then this is like car fentanyl's car fentanyl. Yeah, trank. Yeah. I mean, it's sad that people are, yeah, I don't know, to get to the point where you kind of, that's what you need, like even fentanyl's not doing it for you. Just like a self-destruct. And the head of a pen is not enough for you. Yeah, well, you do develop a massive tolerance,

like I had a friend of mine who's a doctor in Vancouver, British Columbia, and they have a big drug problem there, and they've decriminalized all drugs. And she was telling, because I was asking about the fentanyl thing, she's like, yeah, the thing is with fentanyl is heroin users can't get heroin, or sometimes it's actually vice versa

where people go to heroin actually, because it might be a little cheaper, I can't remember. But anyways, she says, you know, they use so much fentanyl that they just, you develop a massive tolerance to it. That one's like fucking passively smoking, trying to get high and nicked. Kind of, but yeah, but you just keep building up this tolerance.

So the people who actually die from fentanyl, are the ones who have never ingested it in it. It gets cross contaminated. Yes. And so they have no, Have you had a spice, a spice thing over here? Spices, like, it's like fake weed or something? Yes, yes, yes.

So I watch a lot of cops. The show cops, it's like fake weed or something. Yes, yes, yes. So I watch a lot of cops. The show cops, it's like a guilty pleasure of mine. And it's actually sad because a lot of episodes, like segments and cops, is they're like arresting someone for spice. I'm like, why is this even illegal? And the problem is because weed's illegal, it's all in Florida.

Like you always see people get arrested for spice in Florida. And I guess spice was like recently criminalized, but it wasn't always because I guess it popped up and then they take some time to make a legal. So people are forced to take it because they can't smoke weed, which is harmless, essentially. Not harmless, but relatively on the scale of drugs, it is, you know, like sure, it might give you some bad habits or whatever, but, you know, relatively forcing people to smoke spice and then they're getting arrested for a spice.

Yeah. There's a, I think the way it works, maybe wrong with this, I mean, fucking spice expert, but I'm pretty sure that it, it is in a spray bottle and that you spray the, whatever the stuff is that you smoke with this particular solution. But I remember watching this thing on YouTube and this guy is wearing literally wearing like

three pairs of fucking surgical gloves because if even a tiny bit of it at this, you know, and he's like they're spraying it at a distance at like a fucking plant sprayer. And he's like, if you even got a little bit of this on you at that concentrate, it'll be like, you know, LSD, it'll on you at that concentrate, it would be like LSD, it would just completely destroy you. It's super dangerous. So yeah, it's just this. That's one of the things I wish I'd brought it up

with Jeremy actually, but that's one of the things that I would criticize the right for this obsession with more newsworthy, like sexy stories, like stuff to do with like trans books and schools and all the rest of this shit. It's like, the fentanyl problem seems like a really big deal that's just killing people, fucking straight away. But I'm not really hearing anyone,

on the left or the right, really talk about that. It's just like, yeah, it's one of those things where I should under the rug. Yeah, I think so. I think it's one of those things where you can't, you don't stop that problem by enforcement, right? It's like you almost have to stop the people

who wanted, which is the chicken, the egg, war on drugs thing. Trying to mix the fucking people. It's like there's no way that you can stop every, like truck that comes into the United States from Mexico, it's impossible. They can maybe stop even search 10% of them. And the problem with fentanyl is you need a thing this big

to kill 10 million people. Yeah, because it's so concentrated. It's so concentrated, right? Is it right that it's supposed to be China that produces almost all of that? China, this is what Yorangirla told me. They produce the precursor. So there's a precursor that you required. And then so it happens is

China and and but these are like above the water like above board, you know, like just legitimate company pharmaceutical companies who make this precursor. And and then um Mexican cartels are essentially acquiring it. So presumably that precursor is even more concentrated. So you need even less of that. Yeah, I don't know if that's how it works if it's specifically a concentrated form or it's just it's just one of the ingredients that on its own is I don't think is necessarily toxic or maybe it is, but it's not fentanyl on its own. But if you get that one precursor and then you add it to this, you know, essentially a recipe.

I guess, you know, I'm no expert on this, but that's what... That's an old thing though. Yeah, essentially, yeah. But so, and then, I can't remember exactly what he told me, but something along the lines of like they had, like, you know, the DA tried to do some things with these Chinese companies,

and then kind of like they're unable to really stop them because it's, I don't know, it's some sort of, and I think China says, you know, we'll try and crack down on these. But again, they're not technically illegal because fentanyl is used by hospitals. And, you know, like if you have some massive surgery, they will give you some of these things as painkillers. Like they are like real painkillers, but like anything they get abused. So. Did you see Kim Jong-un wiping away tears as he asked North Korean women to have more children?

Yeah, and then the funniest thing is they're all in the audience and they're all the moment. The moment one tear they're all just like They want to get in trouble. Yeah Assessment show that the fertility rate in North Korea has been falling for a decade amid increasing concerns within families over lots of money being needed to raise children and food. North Korean leader Kim Jong-un appeared to wipe away tears as he urged women to halt a decline in the country's birth rate. Mr. Kim seemed dabbing his eyes with a handkerchief in a rare moment of emotion as he addressed the national mother's meeting in Pyongyang. The Hyundai Institute report said that North Korea's population was expected to shrink starting in 2034.

Yeah, that's, I don't know. I don't know what their demographic situation is like. Confox. The South Korea, I think, is at 0.6 or 0.8 as a birth rate, 2.1 is replaced. 2.1 is replaced. 2.1 is replaced. And they for every hundred South Koreans alive right now that will be four great-grandchildren. It's a 96% extinction rate over the next 100 years. Is there any country that's above 2.1? Yes, so like funnily enough, the highest on the planet Chad. Chad, yeah, just like that. Because that chads. Chad, yeah, just like the... Because that chads.

That's... Nice. No, yeah, that's the highest, but even Sub-Saharan Africa, every 15 years, the number of children that each mother has is decreasing by one. So I think it's about seven now, and then in 15 years it will be six, and then in 15 years it will be five, and 15 years it will be four. Sub-Saharan, the average family size is seven children? At the moment, yeah.

Wow. I don't know whether that is per woman or per mother, because that's different. There are some women who don't have kids. And if you do that, if you actually look at that number in America, the number is still the same as it's always been. It's like 2.3. Mothers have about 2.3 children, or 2.5 children,

or something like that. It's the non-mothers that is increasing. Right. So, we're going to have zero. Right, yeah. If you have one, you end up having like two and a half. Yeah. But if you have none, you keep having. We're gonna have zero. Right, yeah. You have one. You end up having like two and a half. Yeah.

But if you have none, you keep having none. Yeah, you keep having none, yeah. So yeah, dude, that whole birthright thing. But that's one of the things that, do you know Pete Desayan, you seen that, dude? No. It's like a geopolitics guy, I had him on the show a little while,

he did Rogan II. And China's population is gonna half basically over the next like that's so funny that they had their one child policy and it was such a disaster. But at the time it seemed like such a necessary great idea and then it was like maybe one of the most short side of things because you can't just like undo that you don't snap your fingers and go, okay, back to, back to chew or however many you want. You're like, no, the damage from that policy is 100 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wild. Well, I mean, the choice between, like famine now, or like extinction later is, I don't know. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, they're, because they have, I mean, it seems

like everybody has huge demographic issues. I guess, yeah, yeah, but yeah, they're because they're they have I mean, it seems like everybody has huge demographic issues I guess America English-speaking Western countries though can fix that with just immigration whereas China's probably a tougher place to Amagotica. Yeah, they can but I mean that's just kind of kicking the can down the road if you have like a total global population Yeah, which is ultimately what matters? Yeah, and you just start trying to fucking move chess pieces around Yeah, yeah, any more chess pieces. Right. That is true. Yeah. I don't, because I had a, this is total conspiracy theory based on nothing.

But when Roe v. Wade got repealed, that was my conspiracy brain was like they're doing that because, you know, they gave America the choice to have more. To have more kids and they go, you're not having more kids, so we're just gonna force it on the addition. And we don't care how they come in or what, they just we need bodies. The additional conspiracy theory on top of that, which I heard someone give me was,

who are the people that are the least able, if you restrict access to abortion, who are the people that are least able to skirt round the rules, the poor people that become the work of drones? Exactly. So it was just, we need some more fucking blue collar like, widget. Yeah, exactly.

And at the end of the day, the way the economy is set up, is essentially, like I don't wanna say like a pyramid scheme, but it kind of is, it requires more people. Like the way that, you know, having a steady like 2% growth every year that they aim for, and you know, like, you just, you need more growth. That's all the, that's how the whole game is set up is just more people, right? They don't care. Like, I mean, obviously to agree, you want which people, but you just need more people. I went to learn, I've watched so many different explainers about how the global currency finance system and

this embedded growth obligation and debt-based financing. And if you continue to grow it, then it's almost like a Ponzi scheme within itself where no one realizes that the new money is feeding the old debt. Well, kind of, and just new, real estate, for example, they always want to be building more and putting people in those things and putting people in those new houses. New, like real estate, for example, like you just, they always wanna be building more and putting people in those things and putting people in those new houses. They don't ever, you don't ever wanna scenario

where they're just like those Chinese ghost towns, you know? Like, and that's how they kind of set everything up. So they're just kind of slowly just building more things and they need people to take those things. I have to watch you do more people. All of these fucking things, dude, I still kind of don't fully understand how it works. I need, I should probably just bring someone on this one.

It's just more people. It's just more people means. More people means they need somewhere to live and they consume more, they buy more stuff. Like, you know, that's, you know, again, some theories about why they're opening up the Southern border. As they're just like, those people are still regardless of how you feel about it.

And people are people. They're still people and they're still consumers. They still have to buy toilet paper and they have to eat and they have to get around. And, you know, most of them, you know, some people are very uncharitable. I'm not, most of them will try and work and they want to work.

Obviously some, because a lot of people are like, oh, they'll just, you know, live off the government tea kind of thing. I think that's a very small percentage of those people. Most of the people just want a better life. But I was in their position, I would do the exact same thing. If I lived in some Central American country with 50% unemployment rate, and I knew that,

I mean, it's crazy, because they're not even all Central Southern Americans. They're coming from all China, whatever, and you know, if I was in their position, I'd probably do the same thing. Dude, if you heard what happens if you're a Cuban, and you wanted like, escape Cuba. Oh, crazy.

So we have a mutual friend who did a film event of some kind in Canada, I think. And told me this story, so he did this one thing and then his brother did a different thing. I'm pretty sure he filmed the whole, filmed the entirety of this like fucking journey that he was on. I was like, I ain't a fucking second.

Like, this is, like, seeking asylum from a war-stricken country. I didn't realize that Cuba, I sound so stupid. I didn't realize that Cuba was a place that, first of all, you're kind of not allowed to leave, doesn't want you to leave. Come in country. That's every communist country is, you're not allowed to leave.

But you've got, the US has basically got this rule where if you come from presumably Venezuela as well, and also maybe China, although I don't know, it's just like, hey, we'll give you a asylum, don't worry. And yeah, this guy told me, so he did this thing where he snuck out at four in the morning from some event and it was literally like a game of chicken. So he was leading this team of people, maybe there were like videography team

or something like that. And I think he maybe had a partner that was with him and he knew because he was the leader that if anybody else left the party that he was a part of, he would be culpable. So he was like, I'm just gonna fucking go before anyone else does. Right. So him and Game Theory kind of. Exactly. It's pretty much in this dilemma. And him and his partner

leave at 4 a.m. in the morning, like sneakily, like pack their stuff, get out, hitchhike their way, blah, blah, blah, do all of this shit, nearly get stopped, get to the American border, hey, we're from Cuba. Yeah. Give us a silent. And then his brother does the same thing, but travels by land from fucking Cuba through Guatemala, through Belize, through fucking... Well, there's the whole thing, they all just, because it's only like 60 miles from Miami. Right, Cuba from, it's only 60. Is it really?

Oh, it's so close. That's so, there's all these baseball players, because Cuba has some of the best baseball players in the world. And you know, is he Cuban? I think so. Yeah, exactly. The guy on the rangers exactly. And they've had, you know, endless amounts of good players, but they're not allowed to leave. But some of them are like, if I could just get 60 miles like a L duke who you used to play for the Yankees, I can't remember. I think those names are Landau Hernandez and like the 90s. But he just like, you like, dead of night, they help on like a wickety raft,

kind of like, you know, and they get over. And if you can just get to shore, there's a $5 million baseball contract waiting for you. 50, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100 million for some of these guys. Some of these guys are like instantly, you know, some of the top players in the league, but there's end, you know,

they do like the world baseball classic stuff, where Cuba fields a team, and there's end, you know, they do like the world baseball classic stuff, where Cuba fields a team, and there's always, you know, same with like Olympics, and there's always like a couple guys who just defect, right, but the problem is is that there's, you know, your family's still in Cuba, and so now you, like they probably have some issues. It's probably like a thing of like shame to a degree.

Well, the North Korean thing is if you break the rules, it's not just you and your family that gets persecuted, it's like eight generations of like shame to a degree. Well, the North Korean thing is if you break the rules, it's not just you and your family that get persecuted. It's like eight generations of the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're extra damn your fucking future. Great, great, great, great, great, granddaughter to being like a fucking minor or something. Yeah, like my parents are from Russia.

And like when my parents left, my mom's dad was in like the Communist party in Russia, you know like this is in the 70s and when she left he got kicked out Like they gave him the boot and he was like a good like, you know communist You know he was like he fought in the red army against the Nazis all that stuff like he was like a war hero and then They were just like well, you know, you did a bad job raising your child Yeah, like a lot like a war hero. And then they were just like, well, you know, you did a bad job raising your child. Because the punishment thing is one hell of a,

yeah, like a motivator. Yeah, it's, it's, it's fucking wild, man. Do you see this undercover video shows PondHub employees want Pond to steer young people's sexual out? I saw, I saw, I saw that trending. I didn't actually watch the video. So it's just like a kind of project veritas type thing.

Exactly like that, yeah. Employees of Pon-Hub's parent company were caught on camera touting the benefits of underage kids watching pornography and even suggesting that making videos of transgender identifying people engaging in sex could help young people figure out the sexuality according to a new video released exclusively on the Michael Knowles show on Wednesday.

Employee Dylan Rice, a senior script writer at the company. Script writer, a senior. They still do that? I don't know. The scene arguing that pornography usage could be beneficial for preteens. Let's say you're 12 years old, you're still figuring out your sexuality, maybe even your gender.

Wouldn't it be helpful to see a celebration, but maybe just a normalization of something that you think is what you want, rice is seen saying. Rice went on to specifically reference a pornography site centered around transgender individuals remarking, let's say I was 12 and I saw trans angels, it would help me figure out what I do like and what I don't like.

I mean, I guess. I don't know, I'm not sure. Like, you know, I haven't gone through every category of porn websites, but I imagine there's quite something for everybody there. Do you know what India, the second most popular type of porn in India is? No.

Breastfeeding. Breastfeeding porn, dude, it's so strange. So this is from Seth Stephen Davidowitz's book, Everybody Lies, and his argument was basically, you tell Google things that you don't even tell yourself like a journal or your partner. Because it's, what do you want? Not what do you think about, like writing and reflecting on?

And he looked at porn hub data and it's just, breastfeeding porn isn't big anyway. It's not even big in like surrounding countries, whatever the fuck surround India. It's not big. Indian people, Indian men specifically, just seem to fucking love breastfeeding porn. Weird. Yeah. And is there any

Theories to why he gave me like some Because cows a sacred Oh, he's like deep. Yeah, it's like some fucking religious symbolism here. Yeah, I don't know. Um, but yeah, this I don't know like I've been thinking this more and more about the Yeah, I didn't know. Like, I've been thinking this more and more about the, some of the exposé, shit that we see online, there was a screen grab of maybe a tender conversation or a dating conversation that went mega hyper, hyper viral

of a guy saying that he wanted a traditional wife and the woman saying, that's really great because that's what I want to. And then he accused her of being a gold digger because she said that she would stay at home. And it's like early days dating or whatever. But it just like reading it seemed so not the way that people text,

there was unnecessary exposition about the fact that they went for dinner last night. And I knew that I shouldn't have done that. And she was like, what do you mean? I paid for the bill at dinner last night. And it was like, this feels a little bit clunky. Yeah. That seemed like a fucking false flag.

But the same thing with like some of the fucking secret camera shit. And also the same for on-street interviews. Like the on-street interviews, the ones that make these compilations. Like, what didn't make it? Like how many people saw it? I'm just really looking for someone that kind of respect me and looks cool to me. That's not going viral. No.

It's always the worst stuff, you know. Yeah, you don't know. Like, it could be legitimately, we talked to a thousand people, two of them said the worst shit you've ever heard of, and that's the only one that's interesting, and guys. It's this weird combination of, is it legit? So is what you're seeing contrived, made it like the set of screenshots that I think was. And okay, let's say that that's not, was this an unfair representation of what most people saw. And then what does what they said actually mean is what they're saying, what they meant to say.

And is that actually how they're going to show up in their lives? How it added in, like, oh man. Dude, like every time I think about it, and it's like flugging a dead horse about like, oh, it's so hard to work out what the facts are. And people can't even agree on what the word truth means. Oh, we can't agree on anything anymore.

It's wild. It's insane. Every argument now is just everybody talking past each other. Everybody almost seems like when they're arguing, there seems like there might be some resolution. Like everybody feels like someone will be like, they say the point everybody goes, all right, yeah, okay, we've sorted it out,

but it's not. Everybody is just, you're on your side and that's it. That's everybody's, you know, just picks a side and then they're staying on that side. It's very rare. I think right now where people's minds are changed. When was the last time I keep thinking about this on Twitter? No one ever actually breaks the fourth wall on Twitter

and says, hey, that was out of order. Like you can't say that. It's always this like clap back satirical game of tennis where you're trying to be wittier or more cutting than what the last person said. And it's all like sardonic passive aggressive like quote fucking sub tweeting what the last person said. Yeah. It's never someone like just going like, Hey, hey, that's out of order. Right. I get to say that. You don't actually fucking treat it like an actual conversation. No, no, no. I mean,

you know, the closest I've seen to some, which was like, brought me so much joy. I thought it was the funniest thing to some sort of argument that resolved was in, I posted this video about, because since the, it's been going on for a while, it used to be like really, you know, dark web kind of stuff, like white supremacist stuff, but these charts of how Jews that are representation of Jews and things, like in, I don't know if you've seen it,

they'll be all, it'll say like all the Jews in politics or the media or whatever, and these giant charts. Remember Kanye, he held up that, he had his thing about the spreadsheet. So then once the war started, all these anti-Israel people were like, look at all these Jews that are, and so then I made this sketch, and it was the guy that researchers how many Jews are in things.

And I'm like, this very just like autistic, just like, I just like knowing how many Jews are in things, and I just make these lists or whatever of Jews are in things. And it went like really viral. And then in the comments was this guy and is like, like, he goes, what's so funny, like, you know, what, why? Because essentially the guy is like, who had his list? And then he goes, he goes, my list is like he goes, what's so funny? Like, you know, well, because essentially a guy is like, who had his list and then he goes, he goes, my list is, he goes,

and he had a drive link of a public list that he made. And then he started getting in an argument with another guy who's like, I have a list and my list is actually better. It's more thorough. And then they were like, in the comments, going back and forth with each other about whose list of Jews.

Dictumaturing competence. So concise, dick measure. But it was there, it was, they were just like, whose has a more accurate list of Jews that are represented in thing. And then they were arguing and then they finally, the one guy goes, you know what, I look to yours and yours is actually better than mine and,

and then the kind of like became friends. Oh my God. And I was like of like became friends. Oh my God. And I was like, oh my God. You watched a burgeoning bromance that got you pumped over. Yeah, in my comments, I screen shot it at all. That's it. Because I thought it was the funniest thing

and they essentially started off as enemies. Dude, it's been a fucking rough year for Jews this year. But honestly, like between Kanye and fucking Middle East. Yeah. Well, everybody's so surprised about the, the what's going on now with the Jewish stuff, but I saw it firsthand with the Kanye stuff, because when the Kanye thing, you know,

I was commenting on that and, you know, like I was making sketches around that. And so I would see going YouTube on, and it was, you know, pretty much all in favor of Kanye. So I was not surprised now. People are like, what's going on? People don't like Jews, huh? And I'm like, yeah, I've seen that for, that's kind of been bubbling up.

I think that's always kind of under the surface, literally, for the last 3,000 years. But I don't have my head at my ass that much. I noticed trends, and I pay attention to shit as best I can. And I had no fucking idea that there was this much latent anti-Semitism. Yeah, it's just, it's kind of, it's like herpes. It's like a cultural herpes where it just, it has these outbreaks,

like these flare ups, you know, and then it kind of like goes away and then it kind of flares up again and then it is really weird to see because I have some friends who kind of don't really like, because I get it, because I comment on this stuff a lot, a lot of the sketches I make are like around

the stuff like the ones I personally make, not with like Ryan. And yeah, and then like some of the, you just see like insane comments. But I mean, I don't know. Do you know what I mean? People have started to use ice. The only thing I can do is just make fun of it.

There's no, you know, it's the only. Even the episode I did with Petersen a couple of weeks ago, there was a bunch of comments calling him Jude and- You didn't Peter's died. Ha ha ha. Yeah. I love it. Rob is like, yeah, I find it so funny, you know,

I think a lot of Jews don't find it funny. They're like, this is more serious. And you know, I guess that could be determined. I sometimes joke about it where I make too much fun of this stuff. And then I'm, you know, getting put on a train and I go, I made too much fun of that. I should have taken them more seriously. Alex Jones tells Tucka Carlson that President Biden walks around the White House naked,

drugged on anphetamines and benzos, as Elon Musk says that he's considering allowing Alex Jones back on X. Yeah, yeah, that, I mean, I don't know about that. I mean, I suppose it's possible. What, everyone's been... They should let it back on, though. Everyone's been speculating for quite a while about what they've had to pump Biden with in order to roll him out on stage. Yeah, you know, like some

Like sort of punch drunk WWE start like Hulk Hogan coming back for another They need like a cord is all shot in the knee Fucking opioids for my spine Your chiropractice gonna come in and do this thing I I don't know he he seems to have his moments for sure where he's better fucking opioids for my spine. And you know, you're chiropractice going to come in and do this thing. I don't know. He seems to have his moments for sure, where he's better and when, like sometimes you'll see him

talking and you're, oh, he seems okay right now, but then sometimes. But I mean, I kind of joke about it. He's the only 81 year old who we treat poorly like this. Like if he was not like a civilian, like we would, remember when he fell off his bike and everybody was like, that fucking idiot fell off his bike and you're like he's an old man.

Yeah, you pick him up and be like, Yeah, you're like, are you okay? Yeah, are you okay? Like can we get you in now? We're just like, I fell off his bike. But I guess when you're the most powerful person in the world, there's a,

that's so rare. It's a higher standard. That's so right. Like, everyone's really mean to hold people. He's like a sweet old man. That being said, I think everyone's really mean to old people. He's like a sweet old man. That being said, I think that's sweet. Maybe not sweet. I think someone highlighted that if Trump gets in office next year, he will be older than when Biden got in office. I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Trump looks older. Dizzy. Yeah. I haven't seen him recently. I recently showing the old age on the face.

Yeah, he looks, I mean, again, I don't know what the kind of curve is, the aging curve, when I've seen some people say it's almost closer to a step function. Yeah, like you just like, the age kind of like, it kind of really hits you. Yeah, it really hits you because he does seem more than four years older than he was four years ago. The, well, there's that photo, that famous photo of Obama, right? Like before and after presidency. It's every president. It actually ages you. I mean, when you have to press a button and kill a village,

it has to take a toll on you. Do you know how they do the, like fucking nuclear football? Do you know how that thing works? Now I find out from this guy. It's so fucking fascinating. So there's 130 missile silos, IBCM nuclear missile silos all around the states, right? At each one of those, at all times, there are two offices and both of the officers have keys around their neck.

Now, what you would think would happen is, there's a nuclear football that goes with the president and it's got a special piece of paper that they snap in like a wax seal. They snap that, they pull it apart, there's a piece of paper inside that's got a code. They enter the code, that then triggers the silo, the people, get the code, enter the code,

turn the keys at the same time. The reason you have two people is so that one is accountable to the other, so that one person can't do it on their own, but also that you don't get, I think it's called like willing dissenters or something. So the one person, it's like there's pressure. Right. Dude, this is your job. Like we've got to do the thing.

But obviously one of the problems that you have with doing it that way is if you're fucking, if you're the guy that the silo comes off, both of you can be nervous about doing it. So we're about to fucking turn the key and kill like thousands of people or something. So every 45 minutes or so, every single silo around the entire US has one of these things happen. All of them.

And then the guys get their keys, put them in, turn them into the code, press the fucking button, and then they go back. So they, yeah, every, less than, it's like, around about every single hour, and I think they're on eight hour shifts, and there's like whatever the bunches of people start 24 hours a day, 365, this is happening.

And they always go off, it goes off all the time, and they don't know if it's real, or if it's another one of the drills. Yeah, it's just a drill, yeah. And they just have to, and the reason that they do that is when it does happen, if it does happen, when it's real, it's just you've been programmed, it's like this is part and part.

Yeah, it's just like that. But you'll have to put the stories from Russia, it's the opposite there. So it's the most junior members of staff that do that, or some of the most junior intelligence officers that have the keys, because it's kind of a bit of a drugie job. It's like for the key and turn it, press the button,

blow, whatever. But in Russia, it's the opposite. It's the most senior members of staff. But you'll remember, like, there's like for the key and turn it, press the button, blow whatever. But in Russia, it's the opposite. It's the most senior members of staff. But you'll remember, there's like three times that we've come basically super close to nuclear war. And oh, it turned out to be like pieces of foil that were in the sky, the glints of birds or something or some misreading on the...

There was a submarine one in... Correct. ...is where they lost contact. And they basically had some sort of order. Like I can't remember the exact story. I think I heard it on coast to coast or something, but it's like a famous like a US submarine. They lost full contact and essentially like the protocol was that they believed that they were under an attack and they had to do it and then some guy willing to send to.

He overrode, he goes, no, we're not doing it. And then he was right. And so had he not been, they would have just accidentally launched. Yes, crazy. So that happened, like, I think at least two or three times in Russia, but this in the US, this is the final, like, fucking kicker that I learned from this dude. And he said that not only is it all of them happening,

almost all the time, 24 hours a day, 365, and they don't know if it's real or if it's fake, but all of them are part of one network. So all it takes is for one pair of people. To enter the code. And they all fire and they'll fire whichever one needs because they're all pointing at different places. Yeah. Like I can be in fucking Iowa and the Wisconsin fucking thing goes off even if so you need like one pair of people

out of 130 pairs of people who also have the accountability of each other and also don't know if it's real or if it's fake. And then I guess just one day, if it ever happens, one day, you're just going to fucking like put the code in and then he'll be like, that's insane. Your holy shit. So fucking wild. That's why I had no idea. I always thought it was just the president because enters the thing and goes,

press the button, press it. But literally, I actually lead some people. You just open a briefcase, there's a button, you go whack. Wack and, no, wow. Fucking cool. Probably better though, that way. What have you reflected on about this sort of

Matt Rife fallout? Have you thought about this much? I thought you know, honestly, I feel like I know a guy who like opens for him and I you know, he has a unique situation because his audience, one he got famous super fast, his audience is all women, right? It's like 90, it's the opposite of our audience, like literally it's like all women. It's the opposite of our audience. Like literally it's like all women. And I think when this stuff, like, it was a basic joke. It wasn't anything that crazy, but I think he, Matt Rife,

probably won't want to be like, I just want to be a comedian for everyone. So I think he kind of leaned into this controversy because it allowed him to kind of just... I don't know if you may have offered the audience. Yeah, I'm gonna get rid of the 10% of the most annoying audience that just kind of you know maybe a little fair weather and I don't want to cave to the demands. I just want to do what I want and he might have been able to replace those 10% with a new 10%

of guys so net net it probably is a better move so that's kind of how I read it. He's just like look I'm a comic I'm not trying to cater to a specific audience. Do you think that that Playing it that way because he then posted like the Instagram story of the special needs Yeah, yeah, he's just trying to be like that's just comic stuff Do you think that that's giving him or will give him more legitimacy in like the comedy world? Not that he doesn't already have it, but yeah, I mean, I don't think he needs like a legitimately person, like, you know, he sells 5,000 tickets a night, like... That's legitimate, isn't it?

Yeah, that's legitimate enough. I think he just wants maybe to not be pigeonholed as... And nobody really does. I think there's a comedian, so I think he just wants to say, hey, you know, I'm not like some just handsome dude who's not doing jokes, you know, I'm not like some just handsome dude who's not doing joke You know, I can be funny just like another comedian would which I think was probably a smart move for him I think until and then you get also just all the people complaining about you and it just raises your profile because You know he was on TMZ everybody's like, oh this guy so I'm sure lots of people didn't even know who he was

Yeah, yeah, well, I think Rogan said his show has never had as many plays as when CNN was featuring him. Exactly. Yeah. So the strizend effect, if you use it right, it can be pretty powerful. And you know, it's saying, but there is really no, no negative publicity, you know, like as as long as you're not doing something that criminalized. Yeah. Yeah. I told you about this last night, but Sam Harris talks about digital leprosy. Yeah, yeah. But this is almost like a purposeful leprosy or like a lech-ded leprosy. So Sam's point being that he gets into different furores and debates or whatever on Twitter, but now it doesn't have Twitter. So bits of his audience might be mad at him and be leaving, but because he's not there, he doesn't notice it. Like the leopard, like the fingers fall off and the fall's off and they're like, I didn't feel it. But I wonder whether Matt in some regards

almost was like, oh, this is my opportunity to coals and barnacles off the bottom of the ship. I don't want. Yeah. So if I lean into this even more, I'll get rid of like a little bit of more barnacles too. And I mean, what's he supposed to do? Apologize for a joke? Like there's that is like the number one rule of comedy. You're not apologize for your jokes. I asked to shult this last year. Do you think that there is this such a thing as a joke that shouldn't be told?

I mean, if it constantly bombs, I mean, that's the only thing. Is it funny? Is it funny and is it not funny? Obviously, that's like the starting point. Is it funny or is it not funny? If you tell a joke and it constantly bombs and you go, yeah, don't tell that joke, then you can get into more like a craft kind of stuff where you say, hey, is this a good joke?

Because there's bad jokes that do well. Maybe people laugh. That make people laugh and there may be cheap jokes or whatever, then you can start getting into that. But, you know, every comic has, they have to make those decisions for themselves. That's exactly what Schultz said. Yeah.

Literally, he was like, I said, is there a joke that shouldn't be told? And he said, is it funny? And I was like, yes. And he said, tell it. Yeah. If it's a funny joke, you're allowed to tell it. Yeah, exactly, you're allowed to tell it. And then if you want to say, yes, he said, tell it. Yeah, if it's a funny joke, you're allowed to tell it. Yeah, exactly, you're allowed to tell it.

And then if you want to say, like, sometimes every comic sometimes will come up with a joke and then you tell it and it kills and you go, it feels kind of cheap, you know, for whatever reason. What's like a, it might be, I might be icky because it's just like, it's kind of hacky. Well, what's like an example of something like, just like what were you talking about with the,

you know, you're just comics are talking about their lives and then you know you're talking about your life It like air it was the airplane stuff going through the airport sometimes whatever you're something like ah It's like that's a funny joke, but you know, maybe it's not the best take on it I'm hiding falling off a bike joke as kind of or I mean I'll tell you what Because comedy has shifted because of The speed at which it used to be like a lot of Or, I mean, I'll tell you what, because comedy has shifted because of the speed at which it used to be, like a lot of comedians would put out a new special number,

like four years kind of thing. And now it's a little quicker because in order to tour, and just the amount of comedians, but a lot of comics will comment on the same stuff. Like, you know, Jeffrey Dahmer show came out and then there's 10 comedians, you know, you might be the first but then eventually

everyone's doing Jeffrey Dahmer bits and then you got to be like, okay, do I have the best Jeffrey Dahmer bit or am I at least there's like it's almost like an arms race to get it out there to be like I least on the first one to get it out there because you definitely don't want to be the guy with the special with you know the 10th Jeffrey Dahmer bit. Right. But everybody's watching the same stuff right now. Like and all these things are the biggest cultural things, you know, so if you want to comment on the thing that everybody is seeing, I mean, the classic thing would be Trump with

late night, you know, it just, it became so trite and it ruined these comedians, it literally like ruined their brains. You know, there were constantly just all they could talk about was Trump and it was, uh, and it was dishonest how they were talking about it and people kind of, you know, at first people were like, yeah, and then even people on the left were like, okay, this is, this is just hack. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did, while we were while we were talking last night about this sort of fallout from late night show host trying to come and do let's script it more just banter stuff. Yeah. And you kind of get to see like who's swimming naked there. They're all swimming. I mean, it was for that strike force five thing that they did the five late night host during the

strike. And I watched it. It was terrible. It was literally a Zoom call between five guys that nothing prepared. They just, the very classic, like they told Stephen Colbert was telling some story about some famous dictators pants that he had. And I can't remember, but some dictator dated his mom or something in the 60s. I can't remember but like some dictator like dated his mom or something

in like the 60s. I can't be the other some bullshit. Yeah and he's like I have his pants and then they tell us some story about like buying I saw Sammy Davis Jr. Jimmy Kimmel's like yeah, I saw Sammy Davis Jr. Like a store. Okay, yeah.

And it's just like it's just so banal and mundane and you know, you can tell they like yeah, the crazy thing is these guys have all 20 writers and the 20 writers still are not cranking out much. What do you think's the future? What's the future of comedy from what you're seeing? Like the trends you've seen is that specials are having to be paced up more quickly.

Yeah, for sure, Louis was kind of the first guy who pressed the accelerator, but now, you know, yeah, you have to, especially if you're talking about certain things, it just gets stale. So you either put it out or you just can do it, uh, and then stop doing it, which is not. Is there a, is there a delicate balance between showing enough of what you're working on that a good jokes on Instagram or TikTok or whatever to be able to sell tickets for your shows versus not releasing your entire special in 45-second chunks. Yeah.

Fans of the special. Yeah, yeah. And you know what, sometimes this is kind of a newer thing where a lot of comics will, you know, when they go on the road, they'll have a little time to vote or to just kind of stuff that's in the news. And they're not the most polished jokes, but because they're referencing something so current, they actually will hit well. And then you can release those because those don't actually really make the act. Right. Yeah.

Those will like mark no one in the same or L, there's a good job of that Ryan, there's a good job of that. But yeah, they'll just kind of like, just it's almost like how we comment on something on a podcast, you know. Oh, this shit happened. Pretty smooth. You see that?

Exactly. And you know, you're not really it's not good enough where you're like, this isn't going to make me ask. It's going to be a part of the special. Yeah, it's not going to be a part of the special, but we can talk about this today and this one weekend at this show. And then I'll clip this, I'll film this and put it out. And so you kind of what else, what else is happening in in the world of like comedy? I mean, it's like

it's really funny. We were talking about how a lot of comedians are now like, like, actor, like the actual celebrities are now becoming podcasters essentially because that whole world is fragmenting. I don't, you know, we're not really in it, to be honest, but that whole world of comedy is getting very fragmented, like, you know, are the people who are fans of us, I can't imagine they, you know, they don't watch late night. They don't really, I don't even know what comedies are on. Like, I don't know what a comedy show is on right now.

Big bang. No, it's been off. So, so funny. We talked about that. It's been canceled for like seven years or something. I've never watched it. If you walk around New York right now, you'd feel like it would be.

No, no, no. They have, they're like the buses and taxis have all ads for it. Because that's what's going on with comedy where they're promoting a show that's been canceled for seven years like it's a show that's on because there's no good shows that are on. I know there's always Sunday in Philadelphia is on, which is like all the good shows comedy-wise are the shows that have been on for 15 years, like South Park, it's always sunny and Philadelphia. But in terms of new comedies, it's there's I get it. There's you know, you don't want to take these risks. There's a disincentive to comedic risk-taking because of you climate, I guess. And they don't.

And the comedies that come out are just the most vanilla, like kind of mundane shit. No wonder the distance, because South Park's illustrated, I wonder whether the distance that the people who make it have from the actors that make the actual, a front and center on the TV show. I wonder if that's giving them a little bit more longevity. I just think that they're such a money maker.

Comedy Central, for example, Comedy Central doesn't make anything anymore. They just don't. I couldn't tell you what they make. They just air reruns of their properties that they have, you know, maybe key and peel. It used to be county central. If you got a special economy central, that was cool. It's not anymore.

Like nobody will say that being like, oh, sick, I got a half hour on, I don't even think they do half hours. They'll do maybe like these 10 minutes. But county central's YouTube channel, I've said this many times, but because I, you know, I do live streaming for my college show that I do on Tuesday night.

It's called Low Value Mail. If you want to check it out, MAIL. But they have 11.6 million subscribers on their YouTube channel, Comedy Central, and they'll do these live streams of stand up. It's like two, 300 people watching. Like they've absolutely killed their brand, like killed it. It's destroyed. I don't even think it could be resurrected at this point. So, that's fucking crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, think about it. Like, you know, daily wire has to make comedy stuff right now. And I saw a thing with Jeremy, where he's saying like, you know, Joe Rogan essentially was like, you guys have to make this. And then he's like, yeah, you know,

we do kind of have to make this. Because nobody else will. And there's just nobody, everybody just wants to play it safe, especially with comedy. There hasn't been, I mean, I've been beating this, because this horse,

because it's just so crazy to me, there has not been a popular comedy movie, like a big box office hit in now 10 years. What was the last one? Ted 2. Like if you look at the top 50 comedy movies of all time, by box office, the only one, like the most recent one of those was Ted 2.

Wow, 10 years ago. Like there's just, you know, there, and it obviously overlaps perfectly with what's going on and culturally. Tell you what's speaking of Ted Ted to family guy is still going? Yeah. Didn't realize that it's still going. Where do you watch it?

I've seen clips of it or whatever. It's on Fox. It's on Fox. Yeah, it's on too. But that seems to have really, I don't know. I remember in 10, 15 years ago, family guy was like, fucking crazy, hot. Yeah, this is going to be, it made South Park almost look slow in some ways.

Yeah, yeah. Like, more cool and more cutting. The characters are kind of a bit more lovable. And now, I don't know. Yeah, I haven't, you know what, I can't even comment on it. I have not seen family guy in a long time. I'm sure it has its moments, but again, it's just one of those things where it's probably just some big money maker, they're not going to really be able to replace it with something

that is comparable. Yeah. Jimmy Carl taught me about this idea of a trajectory being more important than position. So if you are 100th in the world at a thing, but last year you were 200th in the world, there is more allure and excitement around you than if you are number three in the world, but last year you were 200th in the world, there is more allure and excitement around you than if you're number three in the world, but last year you were number two. So basically your sort of trajectory is more important than your absolute position. And you're right with what you say about. Well, it's because it's more up, it's yeah, like there's more upside and there's more potential

and there's more unknowns around it, right? Like once you're two, you know, well, you can only be one and that's it. And we're done thinking about where this could go. There's no day dreaming about what can happen here. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How high could they rise? Maybe even higher than the highest person. Right. Right. Right. But yeah, that sort of slowed decline. But yeah, man, I, it's one of those things. I can totally see it. Why people would sacrifice credibility or cool or whatever. And it's not like they always purposefully do this. Sometimes people just like make calls that tweet things or say things or do whatever that type. In fact, I thought that was kind of cool

of interesting or whatever, write the time. And it didn't be, it's not everything is a rational purposeful decision. But a good chunk of it is just not keeping your eye on the ball and you're right, comedy central to go from where they were to where they are now. And it was just all the kind of,

you know, not to sound like some crazy like boom or whatever, but it really was the diversity stuff because they were, you know, when, I think everything got like, it was almost like a hockey stick when Trump showed up, like in terms of this massive over reaction, course correction kind of thing. But they wrongly were overemphasizing white guys. Like when people say they were, they put too many of them.

And but the problem is, is how do you, you can't just like, exactly represent everybody. Like, that's like communism essentially. Like, what, we're gonna have a exact representation of every person. It's 0.5%. You know what I mean? It's like, it's literally impossible.

So they were over, did it one way, and then they went in, they over did it the other way, but with comedy, the problem was, is that sometimes like, you can't just, I know that you wanna keep your jobs, right? And the only way to do so at the time was to say, hey, we need that you want to keep your jobs, right? And the only way to do so at the time was to say, Hey, we need to not really make this super diverse.

But like there just wasn't the people available to do that. Like you can't, like you can't just say, Hey, this person's checks these three boxes. You're like, but that person's been doing stand up for three months. They're just not good. It's not nothing against them. And like I don't blame those people for taking that thing. but you're like, that's just not how art should be. It's a ruthless position, almost to put the elected person into as well,

because what's gonna happen? They're gonna say no. They're gonna put, they're not gonna say no, but if they say yes, then they, they're kind of by all of the people in the industry that actually care, they feel like they've gotten unfair leg up and then they're like, okay, so I say no to this and I maybe never get this opportunity again You never say no you now like comedians are never rarely turning down any opportunities like that So yeah, you used to take the opportunity and and then but if you go look at the comments, right like like comedy school

Look at comedy central stand- at the comments, right, like comedy, go look at comedy central standups, Instagram page, right? They've kind of, I think they kind of seeing the error of their ways, but in classically, they're way too late. But it's all these people who follow them for Bill Burr and Dave Chappelle, and then they just started putting all these just kind of essentially amateur comedians on

for the purpose of diversity, which is truly self-serving, because it was for the purpose of these people which is truly self-serving, because it was for the purpose of these people keeping their jobs, right? Because they essentially, it was like the tide came out, and they were like, man, you know, the tides out, and we're, we fucked up, we put too many white people on a reverse, and then now we have to overreact,

and then all the comments are like, what is this shit? Like people are like, this is, where's the, you know, you got the like, where's the joke? And I feel bad for the diverse people who are actually good, because then when they get put up, people will think it's for the purpose of diversity. And you're like, so it's an unwinnable position, because if they wanted to say,

hey, we're gonna put the best people on, then there was a chance that it might not be representative enough, quote, unquote. Because the thing is, there was, you know, when I started comedy, which was 15 years ago, a lot of women would fairly, or at least say, like, you know, they would be the tokenized person on a show, right? They would say, like, we already have one woman on the show, kind of, like you'd hear that, like a show with eight people.

But also, they were about that ratio of comedians. Like it wasn't ever 50, 50. Like, comedy is a guy thing, or at least was. And then, you know, when this stuff started happening, they were like, okay, we need 50, 50. And you're like, that is not how comedy shakes out. In the barrel of women. But that's not how comedy shakes out.

Like it's not 50, 50. Like it's not 50-50. Like it's not, if you took a master list of all comedians, that half women, it's probably now a quarter. Well, to say one interesting thing that I realized was I come from a nightlife background, the number of female DJs. Right, because you can be a good DJ. You can be an all right producer

and a very, very good DJ. So people go to see people that play good club sets that don't necessarily produce and make music that's absolutely banged and gone into the charts. But when you're doing DJing, there is other than the selection of the things, it's not like you don't know who's doing it. If I listen to a podcast with a guy or a podcast with a woman,

like, I know, I hear, it's coming out to them, and also they have different talking points too. But with DJing, it's like like, I know, I hear. Yeah. It's coming out to them. And also they have different talking points too. But with DJing, it's like, if I press a fucking T.S. dot track, or if a chick presses a T.S. dot track, it is the exact same thing happens, right? Yeah. So from a performance standpoint, it's completely egalitarian. But from a lifestyle standpoint, do you want to just pack and unpack and live in hotels

and be on the road and be up until four in the morning for 150 days of the year. Like, is that a lifestyle that you actually want? Yeah. But if you want to try and get 50-50 representation, you're going to have to like dig into population rather than like industry, yeah, demographics. Yeah, for sure. And you have to find people who are, you know, maybe I don't know if in the world of DJing, not as qualified or whatever, but I mean, again, this is communism. Like when all this stuff, when we were in Canada, and we were making stuff, and then the tide started to turn on this stuff, and like Ryan would have like a show at CBC. And CBC would say like, they'd literally send him a spreadsheet, or you say, you have

to have all these things. And it was funny because Ryan was the writer, director, producer. So that's all white guys. And so Ryan's essentially like, I have to like fire myself. Right? Which is weird because he's like, one, I don't need a director. I want to director myself. I want to do all this stuff myself.

But then CBC's like, well, you're literally three white guys in the scenario. But then I would show my mom. I was like, you won the third of a white guy. I technically... Technically, no, that's the problem. These two jobs away from people of color. Literally. That's how they see it.

And then I told my mom this, and my mom was like, yeah, that's like what Russia was like. Like, that's like what living in communist Russia was like. Like, you, and I get it. Look, there's always gonna be someone getting the short end of the stick. It's, there's no, and that's why I, you know, don't get to, you know, when I'm, get told like, hey, we're not seeing, you know,

when I was doing acting in Canada, they'd be like, hey, if you weren't a white guy, maybe we could help you out, but just that's how it's going. And I never really got to work it up over it because there's always been someone who was told that. Yes. It's always, someone's always gonna get the short end

of the stick, so you just gotta take it, you know? Like, I don't know, I don't really know. I'm not gonna be like making it my identity and complaining about it. I just go, okay, fine, I'll figure out a way. And I have, you know, so thankfully, there's YouTube and the internet and all that stuff where everybody can kind of carve

out their own thing. Oh yeah, Donnie is bringing this one home. Why should people go? They want to keep up to this. You can find me on Twitter, Danny Jokes, unfortunately on Instagram, Danny Jokes 2.0. I'm hopefully we'll get my old Instagram regular Danny Jokes back, but if you want to find me on Instagram,

Danny Jokes 2.0, boys, casts as you see right here, my life partner. Yeah, my pleasure, my Ryan Long, who is on the road right now, but we do new episodes every Friday on YouTube, YouTube.com, such as the Boys Cast. And I do a call and show that I had, I referenced that I had Yoann Grillo on, I had Mark Dyson recently, and it's, I just love kind of like talk radio. I've always been like a talk radio fan. I don't know why, but every Tuesday night at 9pm called Low Value Mail, M-A-I-L, and that's the name of the YouTube channel, and you can check it out. It's a fun time. It's the only podcast where you can watch and call in and be on as you're watching. Even though

it's just a radio show. But it's on YouTube, but yeah, man, appreciate it, buddy. Reaching YouTube, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. you