Monday Morning Podcast - Monday Morning Podcast 8-8-14

Episode Date: August 8, 2014

Bill sits down for Jerry Ferrara from Entrourage and talks about sports and giant sandwhiches.

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They have all their eggs in one basket. I love the fact that you're making money outside of this fucked up business. I joke with my brother all the time. It's like, I hope one day when I'm in my 60s, you look at me like, you know, acting was great. We did great, but you know what? We really killed it. Sandwiches. That's where you're at. You know why I ate there? I ate there because of your slogan. Is that right? It says fat sales and underneath that it says we're making sandwiches over here. Oh my God. The guys, when they hear this, the guys at Fat Sales are going to die. They're proud of that slogan.

No, I laugh. When me and my wife saw it, we laughed. We're like, we got to try that place. So of course I tried it out and it's awesome, but I'm 46, so I can only eat there so often. But yeah, I close my eyes when I drive past sometime. I only want to look at it because it's on the way to the gym. So it's like, I drive home. I got to pass it every day. I'm like, you just worked out. Don't blow it. Yeah, it's on Fountain. On Fountain. Then you got the big flat screen TVs. You always got the game on. It's unreal. It's like for someone like me that's literally a moth going to the light. But the reason you're here is you actually, you have a new podcast coming out called Bad for Business. Yeah, it's three weeks old and it's bad for business because I really don't know what the hell I'm doing.

I mean, I've been listening. I didn't know. I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I've been listening to you obviously for a while now and I grew up listening to sports talk radio. I didn't have a TV in my room, so like radio was all I had, stern, all those things. So I just have had an affinity for radio my whole life. Where did you grow up? Bensonhurst, Brooklyn. In Brooklyn, all right. Oh God, what sport affiliations are you? All right. Here you want to know? Well, you know, Knicks, obviously.

The Knicks, I don't got a problem with that. We saw that. I don't know about the Knicks. Yankees. Yankees, you made the right choice. What did you say now, though? You can't even really say anything anymore. What could you say? What do you mean by that, Jerry?

Like, you're golden. You're good. Oh, I thought you were going to say that we're doing exactly what the fuck you guys were doing with buying up everybody. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Yankees, Giants. No, we did in 07. And look, the minute we... 07 was a disgrace. The minute we gave Jacoby Ellsbury money, to me, it's over. The rivalry is over.

It started with Damon a little bit, like that was Yankee signed Damon. It kind of ruined the whole thing. They always go your way, though. They never come our way. They always sell throughout my life. I'll be back to guys like Bob Watson. There was always just guys we let go and you guys always signed it. But I don't ever remember anybody, you know, even like an old Lou Pinella. We never got anybody. You never got the old Lou Pinella or even like Mike Pagiarulo.

Even like a Rick Serone who was really an Indian, like coming our way. It always seems like they always end up, yeah. You might have got one guy, Andy Hawkins, who I remember. Only Yankee, and I remember we used to buy the helmets. Carvel used to give an ice cream scoop and the little mini batting helmets. I remember that, yeah. And I used to watch Yankee games and I'd write on the sticker and I'd put the stats of the game on the back of a sticker.

I still have this one helmet. Andy Hawkins threw a no-hitter and lost to the Chicago White Sox. Five errors, four walks. They lost three, nothing. He threw a no-hitter. You were at that game? No, I wasn't. I was watching with my little Carvel.

I think it was on the road against the White Sox. And I think Hawkins ended up being a Red Sox for like a half a season out of the bullpen. That sounds like the kind of guy that we'd signed. He throws a no-hitter and he still loses. At least back then, at least back then we did. But I don't know, we're playing off. I gotta tell you that Johnny Damon, that was brutal.

And even though I know he was in what, Kansas City, and then he was in Oakland. Oakland. And then we got him. So I understood there was just something about, like we finally beat you guys and that he was such like the poster child of our team. And then just to watch him go get a shave and a haircut.

And get another ring. Like he was going over his parent's house. He went corporate almost. It's like this wild child. One of the better beards and hair on the Red Sox. Like he had, his beard was phenomenal. And he had like seven RBIs in that game seven. He had the Grand Sam.

Yeah, he had the Grand Sam. So yeah, that ruined it for me. Like that really hurt the Red Sox Yankee rivalry. To me, my fondest memory, the ending would be like Pedro Martinez throwing Don Zimmer on the ground. That was worth it. For me, that was the height. That was the height.

Did that piss you off when that happened? Or did you understand? It made me so angry. Let me ask you this, Jerry. What the fuck was he supposed to do? He's got this old guy running at him. All right? He's got, these are his options.

He was in the no win. Either he runs away from an old guy. Okay. That's one. Two, he punches him in the face. Can't do that. Can't do that. Can't do that.

Can not. Can not do that. Or you gently take him by the side of his head. I feel bad now because he just passed away. I know, I know. And you just sort of guide him to the ground. That's what he did. He was in a no win situation.

There's no way on earth he comes out of that where it's like, Pedro, you did the right thing. He had no shot. He was dead. The minute Zimmer planted his feet and charged. Yeah. Pedro Martinez was in trouble. Still was not a, was not a good mom.

So then football, where you going to football? Giants. Giants. Congratulations. Giants. I remember the greatest day of my life was when the Giants beat the Niners in the NFC championship game. The Leonard Marshall sack knocked Montana out.

Giants win in a field goal. Almost ended his career. Almost ended his career. And then my uncle took me to see Home Alone in the movie theater. Greatest day of my childhood. Do you know Paul Versey? You, you got to meet him. I know that.

He opens for me a lot. Is that what it is? I definitely see. I definitely know. I definitely know him. I like Paul Versey with hair. I just did that for him if he's listening. You know what's funny?

Like back in the day when entourage was first coming out for people who don't know Jerry by name, he played turtle on entourage. Do you know I actually auditioned for that? Did you? Turtle? That's, yeah. That's how wide the casting net was before the end. They were throwing darts.

Yeah. No. And they got you. It totally made sense. You know, not like I'm good now, but I was really bad at auditioning back then. And I, that was, that was, it was a memorable, awful one. I can't remember if it was so bad or because the show went on to be a hit. So there was like the first season and a half.

I'm watching it going like, God, every time you, they'd say your character's name. Like I would just sort of think about that bad audition going on. Son of a bitch. I haven't been back. I have not been back since, but what's the deal with that, man? I got information here that maybe there's going to be a movie. No, no, we just, we just wrapped the movie a month ago. We actually had to postpone shooting.

Kevin Connolly, one of the guys, he plays Eric on the show, broke his leg while we were shooting. The one what? I was kind of a part of it. I've actually now told the story a few times, but it was a party scene at the beach and we had a cameo from Russell Wilson. So, and I knew, I knew this was going to happen. They wanted to do a little montage of us, you know, playing a little tackle football on the beach. And I begged, they said, let's figure out what we're going to do. Let's block it out a little bit.

The worst thing to do, the two competitive, below average, athletically guys to say, oh yeah, him and I is to say, hey, let's just turn the camera on and see what happens. And sure enough, you know, I go out, he drills me, he goes out, I tackle on like the third play. It was actually the most harmless one of it all. I wrapped them up. He like tried to dive and extend the ball over the goal line and just his leg broke, broke in two places. Did you hear it? You heard it snap? I heard something weird.

It wasn't like the Paul George awfulness. It was not that. Thank God. But I heard a little something. And what did he did? He didn't know he popped up and he thought he sprained his ankle. Russell Wilson came over and said, like, you better tie those laces tight. And he worked for like two days.

We're not knowing just and finally he tapped out. Guys, I got to go to it. I got to go to a doctor and they X-rayed it like you have a broken freaking leg. He didn't surgery the next day. What did he, which bone? Fibula. Fibula. Surgery, screws and everything.

So we had to shut down from it, but the movie's done. And I actually just saw an early cut of it yesterday and it's, it's actually good. Oh, I'm really happy. I'm, I had everything. How do you deal with that, man? Like, like I said, the little stuff that I've done, I immediately realized how little just little pow, power you have, if you're just a performer, like I always hear a lot on set. Like, yeah, it feels like it's going good.

And then then there's always that. Yeah, man. I hope this thing comes together because you have no idea when you're doing it. I think more like the director and the people who edit it, they have an idea of the direction that's going in. But like, I feel like if you're just acting on it, you're kind of in this vacuum where you're performing with the other people and just hoping you're giving them what they need. I got a few things to say about that.

One, I think it's like a game of opposites. Anytime I've been on a set or even whether it was like an episode of entourage or even a movie set or whatever it is, when everyone's like, God, this is, this is great. This feels great, right? Everyone's killing it. That's what Bill's killing it. Jerry's killing it. And then you watch it and it's kind of, eh.

And then I've been on set when there's been times like, I don't want to have any idea of this shit's work. This is the weirdest shit we've ever done. I'm like crossing fingers and you watch it and it's the best. It's great. So you're not supposed to know. I don't think that's kind of like in standup. The amount of time, right?

Well, you a lot of times you feel like you're bombing and you get off stage. I got that sucks. And then your buddy's out in the crowd going to people. They were dying laughing. Just some nights you just can't, you can't hear it, but in acting, I have like a, like I have total respect for any working actor because that just seems like the hardest. I don't know how you guys get to a point. Like how you get, you get altitude in that career because it's so fucking competitive

where it's like a comedian is difficult is starting out as once you like build a following, like say whatever, I went to an improv and I sold some tickets. Like I don't have to re-audition. No, that's it. The next club, it's like, okay, this guy sells tickets. So then you move up to this next level and just, you know, provided you keep getting better, you know, you, you, you have this thing. And I have this thing like say, you know, I go through, you know, periods without getting

any acting work, but I don't have to go back to waiting tables and all that type of stuff. Did you go through a, did you have any like get something really big early and then that just that awful flat line for a while? My story is interesting and I'll give you the quickest version possible, but you know, how sick are you telling this story? No, no, I'm really honest. Everyone, no, a lot of people think like that. I kind of just showed up out here, like some meathead from Brooklyn and like got cast

in entourage right away. It was, you know, four or five years. Now look, that's a short amount of time in the grand scheme. But to me, young and competitive, it felt like an eternity. And I lived in this name, you know, in Burbank for 10 years. I worked at every restaurant. How old, how old were you when you came out? 19, I came out here.

I did like three episodes of King of Queens. I'm like, I'm staying and I never left. So you were smart enough not to go to college. I did, I did my six months at a, at a college of Staten Island, a very nice community college back on the CSI. You said college of stupid Italians. We used to say it stood for every kid who couldn't get into college with it. And now the schools, it's actually a great community college.

I shouldn't really talk shit, but I didn't have any great success. I would, I would get an acting job that would maybe last a month. I'd make like $7,000, $8,000, which to me was a million. Oh yeah. And I quit whatever restaurant where I'd live off that for as long as I can. And then I just would go months without an acting job. And I'd go beg for my waitering job back. And that was my cycle for quite a while.

But even then, even though five years is quick to, to make it, to go through that for five years. I mean, this, this town, you know, they talk about New York. If I can make it there, I can make it anywhere personally. This town for me is just way, way more like it's brutal. Yeah. And brutal. I always feel like New York, there's always like,

there's an excitement to that city where out here, I don't know if it's just the topography, but this is like desolate out here and that sun beating down on you. There's no change of season. It just feels like groundhog day. Just every day, fucking sunshine, phones not ringing. And I can't get anywhere in my car. When it's the, when it's great, it's the best town to ever live in.

When it's bad, it's probably the worst town ever, ever live in. And I always tell people, I always get a, not offended, but like I've had a couple of people in the last whatever year or two be like, what's like the easiest way? Like how you get into acting? Like what's the easiest way? I'm like, the easiest way? That's how you're going to, you're going to pose the question.

There is no easy way. And it's designed to make you quit. The whole system is designed to make you say, I can't do this anymore. I'm going home. It's made to make you say that. Well, let me ask you this being also a transplant from the East Coast. Do you, do you miss the East Coast?

Do you see yourself ever going back? Are you kind of settling in out here? I've had, I've had a couple of different trajectories with this. In the beginning, I hated LA, you know, meathead from Brooklyn. My accent was 10 times worse than it is now. Then I guess as I got a little successful too, I got the whole good side of the town.

The weather's great. I grew to love it. It's unbelievable. It's, it's, it's great. You and I sitting here, I'm drinking a nice coffee. It's great. It's great. It's great.

Recently though, and within the last year, I've kind of gotten to the place where I'm third, I'm going to be 35 soon. You know, my family's all still back there. My nieces and nephews are growing up now. They're like, you know, six years old. They're starting to get that age where I could do stuff with them. Like I'm saying, maybe I don't need to be here 11 months a year.

Maybe it's, maybe it's nine and maybe I go to New York for two months. I'm starting to get to that point. Maybe I go spend some, some more quality time elsewhere. Maybe I don't need to, I'm built up enough where look, if I really blow it at this point, I'm going to have to have a serious, serious problem must have happened. So maybe I go spend some time somewhere else. Not that point now.

It's recent. I'm always jealous. I'm jealous of you, New York guys, because you can go back to your hometown and it's still a big industry town. You can? Come on. Give me a little.

I would go back to the suburbs of Boston. Now I know that they shoot some stuff up there, but it's just like, if I went back there, like, you know what I really miss most about living in Massachusetts? It's just going to a sporting event where I'm not in enemy territory. It's like, I left in 95. I was in New York through the height of the curse of the babe.

All of that. That was bad run for you. Yeah. Yeah. It was all of that. And Aaron Boone, Aaron Boone never took hold because the very next year, like Aaron Boone, probably it definitely would have been worse than Bucky Dent had

the next year not happened. Right. But what happened was they just sort of tore the bandaid off like, Oh my God, that sucked. And we want it. Thank God. But where the Bucky Dent, the Bill Buckner thing, it just, it just, it just kept like, I remember, I remember like,

I was, I had a warehouse job. And it was like two and a half years after the game. And just one thing in the middle of the summer, I was just shaking my head. And my, my boss was, well, what's the matter? Like, he thought the count was off when I unloaded this truck. I was just like, dude, I still can't believe we fucking lost that series. And he laughed.

The ultimate delayed reaction. No, no, I mean, I had the reaction and all that, but just like years later, you were just thinking about it. It was just so, it was so like, I mean, I imagine as, as much as 04 would suck for a Yankee fan, because of all that other success you've had, and then you won one afterwards, it's bad, but it's not, it's not as like, like take like, you know, I guess,

I don't know, Cleveland fans or something like that, where it's just like, it's just no light. There's been no light. That's bleak. That's bleak. But now, now there's, there's not light, but at least there's a little whole, a glimmer of light has poked through at LeBron

and maybe Johnny Manziel, but yeah, it's been. I'm hoping, I hope he's going to be good. I want, oh, I'm, I'm a boy. I think it's great. It's the new era and there's some dinosaurs that are going to hate on him for a while. I think there's nothing, nothing wrong with it. But what about his size and those, all those guys who run around?

First of all, nobody's going to be faster or more elusive at the quarterback position than Mike Vick. So if, if, if he can get caught, he can get hurt. That's the only thing that I would worry about, but I'm actually a Browns fan. My parents and some other relatives have lived in Ohio and that type of stuff. Oh, so you legitimately root for the Browns.

My girlfriends from Ohio and I just went there for the first time recently and they are the most passionate fans. Obviously Boston and New York too. No, no, I'm all Boston teams, but for the Browns, I couldn't believe. I like the Browns because my dad liked the Browns. He grew up in Ohio and in Michigan.

So every year is going to be their year. So he went, he, he went to like all municipal stadiums, saw Jim Brown playing that type of thing. Oh God, that's amazing. So he, he's got this weird, I have this weird thing with him. He was a Tigers and a Cleveland Browns fan. So I have like an affinity for both of them and a little bit with the Red Wings.

If their fans weren't such dicks all the time, talking all this shit, granted they have all those cups. But so I'm actually, I'm hoping that, that he's going to, he's going to, he's going to do well. One of my prized followers on Twitter. I'm not good on Twitter, but Johnny Manziel follows me and that was one of my prized followers. I'm most proud of, of that follow.

Um, we, we actually, me and my buddies, when we went to go see him last year at a, when, when they lost to Alabama and I was a fucking, it was a, it was just a, I'm going to go to a Browns game. I think I'm going to try to go October 12th. I think they're playing the Steelers. I just want to go,

I just want to go see what that's all about. Those Fentons, I just can't believe how hard they show up in root and they haven't won more than five games in. Yeah, they're maniacs out there. That you would not want to walk out there with the other person's, uh, Jersey zone. I'm going to go. Speaking of that, how do you feel about like, uh,

attending sporting events out here in LA? I mean, I have, I personally, I've not had the best experience unless you show up wearing their shit, which I'm never going to do. I kind of, I dress like a plain clothes cop when I go to the game. Same here, but like, they just take it way too fucking serious out here where there's,

there's always a little bit of that. Uh, you might get stabbed like this. You know about Dodger games particularly or? Dodgers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then just shit I hear about like, dude, some guy got shot at a fucking 49ers, Raiders preseason.

I've never gone up to any North, North NorCal sports. Like I've never been to San Fran yet since I've lived here. Oh, okay. Um, I've never been to Oakland. I need to go. I want to go experience it. The story franchises, they have great.

But you're not going to the black hole watching the Raider game, wearing the Charger. No, I would not. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. Although like, I think the, the Raider fans took a turn for the worst when they started dressing up like characters back in the day.

The crowd, characters. Yeah, the crowd, they all look like they weren't a biker gang and they were like legitimately scary. But now it's like, I'm not saying like, there's a lot of people in that stadium could fuck you up,

but you got that around the leak. But those stupid characters, man with the spikes coming out, they look like they should be going to comic con. They look like the, I don't know if you remember the movie weird science when like the motorcycle gang comes in at the end, the crash,

they look like those guys that always struck me. I saw one shot of a guy who looked just like one of the weird science biker guys at the end. Jesus Christ, dude, you just took my, I know I went back. I'm sorry. I do.

I've been watching a lot of old movies. Well, speaking of, speaking of movies, dude, you're in like insane shape right now. And obviously I asked you when you came in the second you walked in, I had down written down here that,

um, you just signed on to play two-time world champ Arturo Gaudi in an untitled biopic, which I'm so psyched that they're making this executive produced by Mark Wahlberg. And the second you came in, I was like, are you already shooting the movie?

You just, you're just training at this point. I'm, I'm training now and I'm kind of getting ready. I'm not in the full swing yet. Like we're actually going to go have a training camp. I'm going to go up to big bear and do that whole like 24 seven thing. No,

we're going to get shredded. I'm going to do my best. I personally don't, there's only a level of shred I can get. Like there's a mid-drift region, that I'm Italian from, and also I was 205 pounds. Uh,

we may have to CGI some shit with that. I don't know, but uh, you would, I'll tell you five seven if I have on good shoes and you were 205, 204.

And what, what is, what is the weight when you went to the doctor? Why, when you went to the doctor and you were 205 and he says, listen, Jerry, I love the show. But you need to get down to what were you supposed to be?

I'm not like the normal for my height. Yeah. One, the normal for my height is 150. I thought that would be, and what, the 1950s? One,

for five, six and a half, he was like 150, 155, you'll be normal. Uh, and that's actually exactly how it happened. I went to take a physical

to go do a movie. It's like the Hollywood physical, they make sure you're not dying. They literally make sure your heart is beating. Yeah. And that you don't have any weird outward things. They do the blood pressure thing. Yeah.

Like my mom could do that physical for me if she had to. And the guy, he was being real thorough. I'm like, this guy's looking for something to like fail me. And he put me on the scale and I just turned 30. It was like a week after my 30th birthday. Right.

And you know, the doctor wasn't trying to scare me. He's just like, look, you're not in any physical threatening life all during that. You're like, you're young still, but you know what?

As you get closer to 40, if you go on this path, you're going to be faced with some problems. So start now. It's way easier now than when you're going, when you're going to be 39. Trust me, dude.

Trust me. And I just started. And it's been four. I'm 30. I'm going to be 35 now. And I'm at 151. I'm in that. I'm in that range of,

I guess, the proper weight for my short ass. Congratulations, dude. That's all. And how long did it take you to drop all that? It just, it's just nonsense. It's still going on.

It's just been years. Yes. You're doing it the right way. You're gradually, did you do it more diet or working out or both? Both. But I mean,

at the time, I was smoking cigarettes still. I was smoking pots still. I, I quit all that. Yeah. And um, that shit, by the way, I'm 46 right around 40 man.

I'm telling you, like there's this weird thing where at 40, if you figured you started being a knucklehead around 1819, it does that tipping point where for more your life, you were being a moron. Yeah. Then running around and riding your bicycle as a kid.

Yeah. And all of that shit. I'm telling you, it starts like the, the weight just fucking, you see it. And like, uh, all of a sudden, just some of the conversations I'm having with,

uh, some of my friends is just, uh, it's, it's what would, I mean, unfortunately I never let it get too out of control. I'm about a buck 70. Now the worst I ever did, I went about 20 pounds and dude, it was all road fucking. Wait, you were up to 190 at one point?

Yeah. I was closing on 190. And, uh, this comic Keith Robinson, I'm not going to say the comic's name that he called me, but he was a redhead who was fat and he called me him that day.

And I just, it, it was funny as hell, but it really stung me. And I was like, all right, I got to go. Cause one of the running jokes on this podcast is that I think fat shaming works. If you're,

it, you know, like, I'm not trying to get in trouble. Make a comment or any bullshit, but it's just like, I do that to myself. Like, I'll be looking in the mirror when I'm just, I go, look what you did.

You piece of shit. And I just said, nobody should love you, you know, just fucking, it gets me like, I just, I just have an unacceptable weight. Like I'm not fucking going past this.

Buddy, I have a, I have a photo album in my phone. That's like my, my workout photo album. It's all old photos. Right. That really, I look at it and it's not even cause I want to look

a certain way. Cause I look, it's only, it's going to be what it is, bro. I'm not a pretty boy. I'm not, I'm not a hand, particularly handsome guy.

What are you talking about? Your full head of hair. Go fuck yourself. You look great. I look at those 205 things and that's where I'm like, that shit. How did that now?

No, no, were you, were you out of shape as a kid? No, I mean, that just happened in your adult life. I always like genetically, we always had like meat on our bones,

you know, we're short guys, even my brother too, but like I played every single sport. I, I mean, I, there was not a day that went by in my youth up until

I moved out here that I didn't do something that day sports wise. You know, it's hilarious. You're probably the only guy who ever moved out to LA in show business and put on weight. That's fun.

Unless you did it for a role. I mean, um, craft service got me. I just went, I went probably from 21 to almost 30

where I did not do shit. Except fuck. I mean, I worked and I smoked and I ate. That's all I did. So when you, how old were you when you booked on for us?

23 going on close to 24. And that ran for what, seven, eight seasons, eight seasons, spanned the crossing. HBO does it

every year and a half break. So spanned across a decade. You know, basically, yeah, almost a decade. Oh, so 10 years of craft service.

I mean, that's understandable. You're kidding. And then you start making a little bit of money. You could actually afford to take a lady out for a meal. Yeah. You went off the rails. What you used to think was a good restaurant.

And then all of it, you know, I used to be like, you know, going to the ground round was like a big, yeah. And then then I made a little bit of money. And then what I thought was

a good restaurant. And then the second, you know, I met my wife. She was like, yeah, like Jesus Christ, she'll fucking kill me.

She, she goes on the internet and she knows where all the places are and all that. She's a foodie, huh? She likes the night. Yeah. It's fun though.

It is. Yeah. Until the bill comes. And it's just like Jesus, break a window, not fucking worth. No, we,

yeah, we went out the other and everyone's like once a month, I go out and I, and I, we'll go out and it'll be just like some, some, yeah, it's fucking brutal.

If you can tell me, it was really annoying. It was really, two, two people, it was like two 80s, something. It was,

it was brutal. It was brutal. And, I, did I bring it up to her? I think I brought it up to her. She got mad and said it was tacky. I said,

when I was in Ohio, when I was just in Ohio, we went to a really nice restaurant and we went to the bar first and ordered a round of drinks for like four of us. And you know, I get the credit card out. I only had like 20,

I only had like 20 bucks on me, and I go, and I'm waiting on my God, it's going to be a credit card situation. It came to $16 for like five drinks. I'm like, oh my God. It's what it should be.

LA would have been $60, $60 drink order at the minimum. And I'm not a cheap guy, but it, that was, I'm moving here. And they used to be dive bars out here, but all the fucking hipsters,

they take over every one of them. Now the dive bars are more expensive than the upscale bars. It's brutal. It's brutal. So, I want to make sure that I don't, I don't forget to promote everything.

So, this is actually just for me, because like I was saying earlier, just as far as how you're making money outside of this business, I just think that gives you such an unbelievable amount of power where if you have this income coming in,

if the acting work slows down, just for a little bit, like when they come at you, and you know, with the movie where you got to be in drag, you only have to do it if you want to. Yeah. Where like you see a lot of these guys now,

because I guess it's more before we talk about the fat sales thing, like in your time, in your time in the movies, like the last 10 years in the movie, like the whole movie industry, now with the, I'm not even going to say the name

of the websites, we can watch it for free. It's like, it's doing to the movie business what happened to the music business. A hundred percent. Yeah. So now like for,

you know, people outside the business listening right now, basically how it works now is, movies that have the best chance, correct me if I'm wrong, are like low budget independent things, or those hundred million dollar robot superhero movies.

The in between, which is all the movies that we probably grew up loving, you know, the stand by me, those coming of age kind of movie, those in-betweens are almost, not obsolete, like we don't enjoy them,

but studios aren't making them, because their business is like two, three million dollars or less, or a hundred million or more. And that in-between gap is actually proving not to be the least profitable business. And I think those are the better

movies personally, but you're absolutely, you hit the nail on the head. Yeah, because I was sitting there one night, and I saw like the, probably like the 15th A-list movie star signed on to do a TV series. It's probably why all these TV series

are so unbelievable now. It's like, it really is like the second golden age of television, like some of the stuff that's out there. And I'm really far behind. People keep telling me I got to see Fargo, and there's a...

I'm weird, I'm on like season three of Breaking Bad. Oh, you are? That's how far behind I am. Oh, yeah, yeah. And like season one of House of Cards. I'm real behind. Yeah, I started watching The Killing.

I liked that. I watched the first two seasons of that. House of Cards. I watched the first episode. I was like, I love this. And then, you know, my life got busy and I haven't got back to that. So...

And you got to pay attention for that one. You can't like get the popcorn. Yeah. And you got to like, you got to lock in on that one. Yeah. You can't really casually watch House of Cards. Absolutely.

So all these guys now, you see like, I mean, you see half the cast of like Boogie Nights and all these movies I love. They're all on TV now. So with it changing like that, that's why I love this move. I mean, and you did the most riskiest thing

is essentially opening a restaurant, right? And how did that all come about? It came about because the sal of Fat Sal's is a real guy. He's one of my best friends I know from New York. We always talked when we were young. I'm talking 20 years old out here. Like we need like an East Coast kind of place out here.

We didn't know what it was. And then obviously, you know, he's not, he wasn't in the entertainment business. He's a mechanical engineer, like builds buildings. And he kind of ended that part of his career and him and another friend of mine came to me with this whole plan. And look, I don't know.

I'm like Paulie and Goodfellas. Like I don't know anything about the restaurant business. I really genuinely don't. I don't cook. What is that one for me? I don't know how to sit down and how to eat. It's exactly how that conversation went. And you know, I, they...

You're going to burn it down someday and Sal's going to be a fucking shame. It's a fucking shame. It's a fucking shame. Fuck you. Pay me. No. So I just, I invested in the two of them.

I said, guys, I don't know about food. I know all restaurant, most restaurants fail, but not that I feel like I owed, but like if I can empower one of my best friends, because I'm a lucky motherfucker right now, if I can't give him a shot, why not? I went into it saying, I'm going to lose every dollar. So I wrote a check that I was comfortable losing every cent of.

And sure enough, the kid came through and they, I look, I don't run the business. I'm not going there making sandwiches. I'm in on everything. I know what's going on, but they run that show. And they, we just opened our fourth one in Austin, Texas. Dude, you got to update your bio. You're killing it so much.

They told me you had two locations. Now you got four. Well, you got to, you had to be comfortable if your buddy knew how to build and design a building that he could make a sandwich. I mean, that's got to be a joke. Yeah, but he also built out the places because of his background.

And the other guy, Josh of Fat Sal's, who he's the one that came up with, they were making sandwiches over here. Right. You know, he's been in the food industry his whole life. So they were the team. And I said, I'm betting on you guys. Because the first one was at UCLA, Westwood.

Great location. And I said, they have a great way of making everyone feel like it's your spot, like you're a VIP. I'm like, these kids are going to, are going to come to hang out with you two. And sure enough, I hate to say, I told you, I was right about that. And then they took it from there and have just.

Did you guys with that flood? Did anything come down your way? Not luckily, not ours. But I mean, we certainly felt some of the effects of it, but it didn't hit our spot. But people listening all over, there was a water main break. Crazy. Crazy.

Like one of those 10 foot pipes, you could drive a truck through. Yeah. Broke. Yeah. You know, it's not no big deal. We just steal the water here. Little things.

We have so much water in LA anyway. So tell me, tell me about this. I'm jumping all around. No, it's okay. I'm scatterbrained here. But so this art, Arturo Gatti movie. Now is, is this is going to be, it's going to go all the way,

obviously going to go to the, I don't want to ruin the end of the movie, but I know how his life is. Right. And, and, and that's the thing. Which is really sort of like open ended as to whether, was it, was it officially ruled like a suicide? It was officially ruled a suicide.

Broke Gatti at the, after he retired, you know, he, he went to Brazil and with his wife at the time, they were going and the kid and he was found dead. And the government there of you ruled it. It was ruled a suicide. She was, his wife was actually in jail on trial for the murder. And she was not guilty, acquitted.

And now she's back here. You know, while we will not be able to literally make the movie and say, she killed him, the goal of the movie without giving away all, all too much is, if we tell this guy's story correctly, you as an audience member will be able to walk out saying, there's no, no fucking way.

He hung himself with a pocketbook strap from the, the staircase and ended up under the island of the kitchen. Like I have the reports. It's, it's mind blowing the, the way they say it went down. So this movie's being made because his longtime manager to Pat Lynch, great guy. He's actually in the documentary a lot. The Gatti Ward tale,

the HBO documentary that Wahlberg voiced over. And um, the greatest fights of the last, man, was that last century was out there in the nineties, like 98. No, I think it was, it was early 2000.

I think it was 2002 was the first fight. And I remember I watched that fight live. It was at Mohegan son, 2000 people there. And Jim lamp. He actually says in the fight, man, he's like, man, I bet you these 2000 people did not realize they were walking into

maybe the best fight they'll ever see in their life. At the fight. He was commentating the fight. And he was just saying, he's looking around the small little arena, 2000 people. I bet the 2000 people. Are you watching it on a big screen?

Are you at the fight? No, I was watching it at home. Oh, okay. Here probably on break from working at Boston markets. Stone probably watching the fight with some mac and cheese. And um, you know, Mark played Mickey Ward in the fighter. And it's a great, great movie.

And I love Mickey Ward as well. And, you know, they weren't at a place really to get into the Gaddy Ward stuff. So I think this is kind of, that's why I think that's why Mark wanted to be involved is that's the next step is showing that bromance, the ultimate bromance of Arturo and Mickey Ward. Right.

And there's all those movies, boxing movies is, it's just, I mean, I'm a sucker for those. Like that to me, that's like the modern day Western. Like when I was a kid, I used to always watch Westerns with my dad. Yeah. He loved those.

And then, um, I do look at the Rocky movies. They started off good. They got a little, they got a little crazy, but, but you know what was cool about the Rocky, all of them was the premise of each story. Like I love, I can't even remember which one there was so many.

I'm an expert. We'll talk to me. I got the rush one. The rush one was a little bit. That was a little ridiculous. But the one where he's coming back, like he's lost all his money. Uh,

that is six. Rocky five. That's five. Tommy Morrison. Yeah. And that what I loved about that, I'm not saying, you know, it goes back to Philly.

What? Yeah. And what I love about that one is just a premise of it that they, they aged the character with Stallone. Like I thought they did a really good job and they kind of did like a good trajectory. Yes.

Of it. I'm not saying they executed. This is what you got to do nowadays because there's so many fucking people out there that are going to take, you actually think that's a good fucking movie. I'm just saying like with the jump off point for where they were going with that, dude, that's hilarious.

You watched all of those. I watched all the play. We'll take a moment and realize one thing about how create, how far we've come. If we tried to make Rocky one now at the love story part with Rocky, Rocky essentially rapes Adrian. When he has her at the house,

she tries to get out. He slams the door and any of the famous shit, like he puts his arms up on the pipe and the wife be, and he won't let her leave. She's trying to leave. She's like, let me go. And he's like, no, you, where you going? No, you guys,

he basically date, he doesn't let her leave. Yeah. There's a lot of that. It's like, dude, let her go. She's a lot of that. Back in the day, I guess I shouldn't be laughing at this.

It's just fucking just the fact that that one, what it won. We won the Oscar. Did it also win? I think it won best picture, best screenplay. I think it was almost a sweep. Jesus Christ.

I forgot. I thought that all that shit was in the 50s. You got to be, are you a sports movie yourself where they'd slap the shit out of them? Like I thought that that was just in the 50s. Are you a sports movie guy or no? You,

some of them I like and I, I is, if they're done in a way, if they're not too cliched, it's very hard at this point. Now it's like, it's almost impossible. I didn't,

I'll have issues. Like say that movie, Rudy loved the story, loved it, all of that. But when you saw the actor they picked and then the end, they showed the real guy, you saw the real guy.

And even though he's small, you're looking like, dude, that guy's a fucking animal. Man, I would not want that guy running at me. Like I can see how that guy had a heart of a lion, but just, you know, do you know how hard I would have fought if they were making that movie

right now to play Rudy? I would, I would have been me and Sean Aston head to head battle. I would have, oh my Lord, I would get steroids for that movie. Absolutely. Yeah.

Nowadays, nowadays they're not that bad. You do one cycle. I go as Rudy every Halloween. That's my Halloween. I got to put on Notre Dame jacket and hold a Bible. No, you don't. Yes,

I do. Uh huh. That's my go to that and Schneider from one day at a time. Dude, so you, so you basically, you love acting the way I love stand up. 100% like,

I don't know about you, but acting was just my way into movies and TV. I didn't, I could have easily been an editor and I would have been almost equally as happy. I wouldn't have had a lot of cool stories that I have now with acting, but it was something in, in TV or movies, whatever it was,

I just, an acting was what I landed on. Well, speaking of that type of stuff, meeting all these people, those years on all those seasons on entourage, who was your favorite guest star? Cause you guys had some monsters on that show.

God, it's written. I know people always try to take a high road and I want to single out one person. I'm not doing that. Give me a hand forward. Whatever. Give me. I mean,

I love James Cameron only because I think he like legitimized the fake world that we created. Right. Like James Cameron on the show is directing Aquaman. Right. When he like, when he came on, he legitimized our fake world, our fake universe.

But I mean, I loved like Bob Saget. We had the whole cast of full house at one point. Dice, we had dice on there. Dice was great. Dice was phenomenal. And just,

I never, if you had told me when I was a little kid, sneaking the dice tapes with my brother, listening to him, I'd be acting with Andrew Dice Clay. I would have punched you in the nuts. No, people don't understand like the impact that guy had.

Oh, I was, I saw Dice Clay at the Worcester centrum. This is like where like the Celtics could have done a home game. That's awesome. I was like second to last row in the upper deck. And he came out and destroyed.

And in the end, he did his impressions. And then I swear to God, he played a drum solo. I'm not even lying. Like this, it was like he could do no, no rung.

And it's so hard now with all the internet and all the fucking podcasts and all this shit for somebody to have an impact and get that big. And that's one of his son is one of the best drummers I've ever seen. Son Max, you talk about, he told me his son is on real on the drums. Like we'll knock your head off with the drums.

There you go. Random point. We've had so many cool. I mean, I always describe it like this. Like we had one day on entourage where I don't think any other show would ever do this on the call sheet. You six a.m. call at six a.m. We were working with Sidney Pollack,

great actor, director. And then after lunch, we're doing a scene with Kanye West. It's like, wherever are you going to, in one day, are you going to do scenes with Sidney Pollack in the morning and Kanye West in the afternoon?

It was, that was the one of the coolest parts of the job. That's awesome. How crazy is Bob Saget? I love him. I'm obsessed with him. And he did something really cool. My nephew who's now watching Full House,

my mom bought him all the DVDs. It's his favorite show. He's called, he wants to call me Uncle Jesse. He asked me. He's like, I call you Uncle Jesse instead of Uncle Jerry? I'm like, yeah, sure.

So I tweeted that. And Bob, who Bob saw, he must follow me and wrote like DM me, like, look, if the kid's ever in town, bring him the fat sals, I'll call me and like,

Bob, if my nephew sees the real, he might, he might see the first five-year-old heart attack of all ever. He might just fall on the floor. I did a benefit with Saget last week. And that guy, he's out of his fucking mind.

Love him. He goes on stage and he starts wishing, the disease, we're trying to stop. He's wishing the disease on the club owner. And it's the funniest, like five minutes I've seen in a while.

And the crowd's all like uncomfortable and squirming. Of course, a couple of people, they get it that he's just joking around, but he goes up and he's, it's fucking, he just goes up and riffs. So he'll talk himself into a hole.

And he just, No, he just keeps digging it. He doesn't try to get out. He tries to, he goes, he tries to dig all the way through and come out the other side,

down in China. And that's what he did. He felt him going and he just kept, he's, he's out of his mind. It's one of my favorite comics to watch

because of that style. And then also because of all the people that watched Full House and they still think there's going to be this. And America's funny is home. Yeah. There's going to be this. Forget that.

Yeah. This family sort of like entertainment kind of thing. And Doug Allen actually said, the creator of answer, I said this on my podcast, when, when he went to Bob Saget to do the show,

Doug wanted to play Bob as like broke, like broke, like living somewhere. And Bob was like, look, Doug, I'll do any, one thing I won't do. I won't play broke. Cause I,

I won't play. So Doug was like, all right, well, what about, would you like to have sex or prostitutes? He's like, yes, he done easily, but I won't play broke.

He would not play down on his luck, broke Bob, but he's like, I'll have, yeah. Why not? I'll have sex with prostitutes. Yeah. Of course. He just thought it was a,

he didn't want to do it. That was like his one, I'm not playing broke. Cause that, like I'm, it just doesn't fit with what I do. That's also, that's probably a smart move too,

because so many people would think that he actually did that. Where if you just do the prostitute thing, like, it's with his comedy a little bit, I guess, like, and if you,

if you know him, you know, you don't really take that seriously, but you maybe kind of wonder in the back of your mind, like, wait, maybe. I was, I was walking my dog

and there's a house that I walked by that you guys, I didn't even realize that I was watching a rerun and you guys shot without Ralph Machio there. Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think a few people, Kevin Dillon too. Yeah. And of course, you know, Ralph was hilarious. And every time, I swear to God,

like I, I've walked by that thing like 15 times. Every time I go by it, like nine times out of the 15, I'll be like, We asked him to do the, Ralph Machio stood right in that doorway. We asked him to do the,

shut us down on the crane kick. What is it? Oh, the, the famous Daniel LaRusso crane kick at the end that he hits Johnny with. We said, will you do the cranky?

He's like, no, won't do it. And you only asked once, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. Out of respect. Of course. He asked once.

He says, no, we really tried to never make anyone uncomfortable. If you, if a cameo came on, like they really had control of what, how far they want it. Yeah. Yeah.

It was never done. Like you're in on the joke. We're not trying to make you look like a dick. If you're uncomfortable, either don't do it or we'll change it. Doug, Doug was always great about that.

That's awesome. Well, I had an awesome time finally getting me. I know I met you briefly, but I'm really happy for all your success here. But we didn't really get to talk too much about your podcast. What is it? Just you?

Is it going to be like another? It's, it's just me, but I do, I do have guests. It's got to be heavy sports. It is, you know,

I'm trying right now not to because it is the dog days of summer and, you know, there's no football. So I'm really, I'm, I'm every time I, every show at some point I say,

I'm not going to talk about sports because the minute, you know, October comes around, it's probably going to transition into that a lot. Oh, absolutely. So, but we're doing some fun sports things.

We got like the sports Academy Awards. I'm doing this one thing where, we're going to like do the best sports movies never made. So, and I want my audience, we're going to cast. Listen to that. Well,

I would love for you. I'd love to get your take on this too. Don't, don't get me wrong. I'm going to cast the 86 Mets. That movie. Oh, Jesus.

Let's cast. But I'm doing, say I'm doing that one on the, on the show next week. I did where we cast the 86 Mets. Little teaser. You know, you know,

if he was a little younger, would have been a great Darrell strawberry. I got the best Darrell strawberry. Who? I was a little tea. I'll tease it with this one. All right. To me,

it's a genius call. I don't know how you're going to react. And only because of what he looks like now. Okay. Dave Chappelle is Darrell strawberry. Cause he's jacked right now. Isn't he? The pictures I've seen of Chappelle,

he's like huge. No, I saw him since Seattle. He is. He's like a big boy. Yeah. I would cast him as Darrell. He can throw you across the room at this point.

I would cast him as Darrell. Oh, but we could have fun with it. We could have, I mean, Lenny Dexter, who's going to play Lenny Dexter, Mookie Wilson,

Dwight Gooden, Gary Carter, Keith Hernandez. These are bringing up some bad memories. I, you know, I wish, I wish we didn't play them in 86's.

I really would have enjoyed that team. More because, uh, I saw so many things on there. Just the unbelievable, like the, just the level of talent that was on that team was, was,

was insane. And, uh, you know, obviously what happened when we ran into, we had those fuckers beat. Oh, that book too. If you ever want to read it,

dude, I watched that so little, I don't, I don't even remember the names. Like, I can't even remember who's the guy who ran across the home plate and he put his hands on his helmet. Like,

Oh my God, that was Lee, Mazzilli. Why did I think it was night? I'm thinking, maybe it was, maybe it was night. My,

my initial mind is telling me Mazzilli, but that's not a fact. Oh, behind the bag. What? They fucking showed that forever. And maybe, and I still love Vin Scully,

but every once in a while, when I'm watching a Dodgers game, listening to him, his, his voice will get up into that register. And that's all I'm hearing. Could you imagine? And the match,

what happened now with social media? What the hell? That would, that would set social media. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

I mean, I mean, what that social media on, break Twitter, if that happened right now, Twitter would have to shut down there, whatever.

I don't know anything about technology, but whatever they use, that shit would break. If Bill Buckner happened right now. Oh, and he like Bill Buckner, actually back then, before social media, he had to leave Boston

and he, you know, he was upset and he talked about it too. And I was kind of like, I felt bad for him on one level. But on another level, it's like, dude, you know what,

what are you, I haven't won it in this long. What'd you think was going to happen? You know, it hit a pebble or something. I don't know what's that, but you know, when it's a little slow roller,

what do you, what do you think is going to happen? Did he expect compassion? I don't know. Did he really expect compassion? Well, I know he should get compassion for his fucking Bob Stanley.

That's who should give him, he should send him a fucking card every, every week that he took that off of him, or whoever it was. I see, I haven't literally have never, I never watched the game again.

Don't go there, Bill, I know there's a lot of highlights. And we had that Calvin chiralty in there. And it was just single, single, single. Don't go.

It was, it was the sickest thing. You're going to start getting cold, no, no, no, no, but it's fine because we won all these championships, but it's, there's just something about that one. That one hurt. That was,

cause I was 18 when that happened. That's your prize. When, when Bill Buckner happened, I was 10. So I didn't even, I mean, I didn't even know that we hadn't won it that long.

And I didn't even, I knew the Yankees had won some championships, but I was too young to get it. By 86, I got it. And, you know, you think the Celtics won it that year?

Patriots went to the Super Bowl. We got the shit kicked out of us. Right. But it was looking good. But we, that was foreshadowing this past 10 years. We kind of got it all at once,

but, but anyways, I'm really happy for you, man. All the success and like, and it, the highest compliment, man.

You know, back in the day, you know, it was really hard to, to go from a television show where you was so known as a character, and you actually had like a nickname or something like that to then to be going on to doing the stuff that you're doing.

You're playing this Arturo Gaudi. I think it's going to lead to great things. You got all these sandwiches places. If you're killing it, and you got a podcast, and I'm helping you promote it on my own podcast. She wants to talk about bad for fucking business. That right there.

I cannot thank you enough though for having me. I've been, I've been a fan for quite a while. I actually, when I, when I met you that night, the Nick screening, we saw a screening for the next,

I was Michael, Michael Rapaport's filming directed out and which is great by the way. Yeah, it's, it's a great thing. What's it called again? When the garden was eating.

Yeah. Which is based on a book, right? It's based on a book when the Knicks were actually good, which I don't know. See, it's similar to you. Like you're, I'm like that with the Knicks.

Even like, I just have no idea that there's losers to me. But you weren't sure enough for Pat Riley. Those the early 90s. Yeah, but yeah, you know, losing game,

game six and seven. So the Rockets, John Starks going two for 17. The joke was John Starks tried to shoot himself. And I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,

I was like, I was like, yeah, no, I didn't know? Starks tried to shoot himself after the game. But he missed, you know,

it was that was my Jen Patrick ewing. Missing the finger a Reggie Miller, scoring eight points and 20 seconds. And then the Chokes thing did well. Yeah, I feel your pain. Oh,

sorry. I'm glad you're a fan long enough. You got those fucking stories. So, but anyways, I hope uh, what little I can do in this podcast, I hope makes bad for business.

A big hit out there. And congratulations on this atura Gaudy thing, man, I can't wait and I'm going to hit your fatty cells pretty soon. Oh, your VIP now,

Bill, your VIP now. All right, thanks a lot, man. Thanks, man. All right.