Money Crimes with Nicole Lapin - Reddit's Most Disturbing Relationship Crimes
Episode Date: August 26, 2026What happens when jealousy, manipulation and betrayal cross the line into criminal behavior?Sabrina Deana-Roga brings Alexis Linkletter three shocking true crime relationship stories from Reddit. A hu...sband discovers the disturbing truth behind his wife’s secret harassment campaign, a woman learns that her boyfriend has been conducting horrifying experiments on her, and a man receives a friend request from the ex-girlfriend he believed had been dead for eight years. Alexis hears each story for the first time and reacts in real time as they investigate the lies, warning signs and devastating consequences hidden inside these relationships.Follow CRIMES OF REDDIT for a new episode every Tuesday https://pod.link/1838511303If you’re new here, don’t forget to follow Scams, Money, & Murder to never miss a case! To hear episodes ad-free, subscribe to Crime House+. Join at crimehouseplus.com or if you’re listening on Apple Podcasts, tap “Try Free” at the top of this show’s page. Scams, Money, & Murder is a Crime House Original Podcast, powered by PAVE Studios.🎧 Need More to Binge? Listen to other Crime House Originals Clues, Crimes Of Reddit, Crime House 24/7, Serial Killers & Murderous Minds, Murder True Crime Stories, and more wherever you get your podcasts!Follow me on SocialInstagram: @CrimehouseTikTok: @CrimehouseFacebook: @crimehousestudiosX: @crimehousemediaYouTube: @crimehousestudios
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Or someone who's been in the dating world or been in several relationships, which we both have.
I mean, I'm sure there's going to be some triggering moments here.
And also, there are some moments where it's like they've been together for a very, very, very long time and there's a reveal about a partner.
So it's like, even if you're in a happily committed relationship, there's so doomsday of me.
But you never know who you're dating.
You never know who you're sleeping next to.
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Okay, let's start with the first story, though.
Okay.
This is titled My Wife, so the OP is 36 male, wife, 33 female.
My wife was sued.
I'm feeling resentment towards her, and I don't know.
know how to move past it. All righty. Are you ready? Yeah. Okay. This is not a post asking for any
legal or financial advice. We already have a lawyer and have helped financially. No offense to Reddit,
but I'd rather not get any legal advice from a forum, but I am okay with getting relationship advice,
it seems. As the title states, my wife was recently sued. She lost and we had to pay. The money is
a significant amount for us, and we didn't have much in savings or emergency fund to begin with. And both of
those accounts are now empty. But my current problem is trying to move past the resentment and anger
I'm feeling towards my wife. Until now, I've always felt like we were a partnership in our marriage,
but since I'm the breadwinner, I can't help but feel like I'm spending my money on something that
isn't my fault. I've had no problem paying the mortgage and taking care of various financial
burdens that come with being a married homeowner. However, I've been the only one to put money aside in our
savings and other accounts to prepare for an emergency. I thought an emergency would be like a
totaled car or someone losing their job, medical bills, or an act of God. Not a stupid lawsuit where I
know my wife is guilty. She has a part-time job and doesn't make much money, but pays for smaller
things when she can, like groceries and some random bills. But she does take care of a lot of cooking,
cleaning, and caring for our pets. What did my wife do? Note, I had no idea this was happening
while it was going on. What a buildup. I mean, get to it, buddy.
Oh, no, but it's worth the buildup. I can't wait. Let me tell you. And this is one of those
stories where you think you know someone. You've been with him for a very, very long time,
but you don't. Okay, my wife used LinkedIn to find her former ex-best friend. She ended up
creating a realistic-looking fake LinkedIn profile with a vague occupation of a recruiter.
My wife ended up sending this ex-best friend who will call Laura a few messages pretending to be a recruiter in her line of work.
Laura finally responded thinking that this recruiter was real.
My wife wanted her phone number, but Laura ended up giving her a personal email address instead.
So my wife created a second fake LinkedIn profile and started to send messages to people with similar titles as Laura at her company.
These messages said derogatory things about Laura, a mixture of truthful but embarrassing things, and old
fabricated bullshit to make Laura look bad.
Laura's manager got one of these messages that claimed that Laura was a heavy drug user.
And Laura's manager talked to her about these messages, and he felt like the messages were bizarre
and seemed like someone was trying to troll or harass Laura, which is lucky that she has a manager like that.
Well, which was exactly what was happening, evidently.
Mm-hmm.
It gets worse.
Yeah.
Laura's team had her back and helped her save these messages, and not only that, but Laura requested
that she be drug tested anyway to provide further evidence that she was clean.
My wife didn't know this at this point, but Laura was also pregnant.
Several of her coworkers, including her manager, testified on Laura's behalf.
Using this personal email address that she got from the fake recruiter profile,
my wife was able to find a few social media platforms that Laura was on
and able to figure out Laura's husband's name.
She did more internet sleuthing and then found Laura's husband on Facebook.
Laura's husband didn't have much on his Facebook profile, but you could see his business email
address on it, and so my wife sent him an email claiming that Laura was cheating on him.
The husband confronted Laura about this email, and Laura encouraged him to keep responding to this
person and save messages, as well as to start asking specific questions about this supposed affair.
My wife thought she was being clever.
She ended up telling the husband that Laura was cheating on him during the work week, even gave him
specific dates. But what she didn't realize was that Laura had something turned on in Google Maps
where it keeps a year's worth of historical GPS data. So some of the dates that my wife had given,
her husband, happened to be days where they were both working from home, and she also ended up
giving him dates during a time they were on vacation together. Laura had her husband continue
to respond as much as possible to my wife to back up all correspondence. Then when my wife learned
Laura was pregnant, she found out where and when the baby shower was going to be. One of Laura's
friends had created a public registry for her and had the invitation online. My wife decided to show
up unannounced to the baby shower, which was taking place in a semi-public place and they had rented
out an area connected to the public business. Keep in mind, O.P. has no idea any of this is going on
as it's going on. It's so disturbing. And now you could see why the target of this obsession is the
ex-best friend. I mean, I can only imagine how the friendship was when it was going on. I know. And we do
get more context on that. Okay. Can we? My wife did not make herself known immediately at the baby shower.
Instead, she started looking for patrons that were entering and exiting the rented out room.
She was able to get the attention of a few guests that had never met her, and she started gossiping
about Laura. And my wife was telling people that Laura didn't actually know who the father of the baby was,
among other things. And this was an event that her husband was at as well. So then word got back to Laura,
and Laura spotted my wife and apparently immediately put all the pieces together of what had been happening.
I'm leaving a fair amount of information out.
My wife was able to find phone numbers, social media accounts, and emails for other people in Laura's circle,
and sent them messages about Laura on multiple occasions.
All of the messages were trying to paint Laura in an extremely derogatory light,
and all of the events that I mentioned so far took place over a year or so.
My wife didn't think to mask her IP address, so it was pretty easy to find out that all these made-up messages
came from the same IP address, which was ours.
Many of Laura's friends and family testified on her behalf,
and Laura had everyone save as much digital evidence as possible, which was a lot.
So once Laura put it all together, her and her husband hired a lawyer and decided to sue my wife.
They had ample evidence against her, all the saved messages, close friends,
and even her manager spoke on her behalf.
She showed that she went to see a therapist once all the harassment started
because she was depressed and anxious, which, of course,
Yeah. Like someone was trying to destroy her life.
Especially messing with her work. Like messing with your livelihood is...
Yeah. Don't hear of. Yeah. Yeah.
She showed that she and her husband went to counseling after the accusations of her cheating.
Because even though she wasn't cheating and they can prove it with someone messing with her,
that plant seed of doubt in relationships that sometimes is hard to, like, come back from.
100%. It's so sad.
Laura even went above and beyond, had more drug tests done to show that she was clean and
to prove that my wife's accusations were 100% false. She even had a paternity test done to show that
my wife was again wrong and choosing to lie. I honestly feel awful for Laura. There were lots of
tears on her end and you could tell how much emotional stress she had gone through. She said that
being pregnant during the majority of this was absolutely horrific and she was worried the stress
and anxiety would somehow hurt her baby. She was pained that her one and only baby shower was
ruined by my wife, and that was something that could never truly be repaired or made up for,
and that my wife's harassment continued even after Laura gave birth and was trying to manage a
newborn child. My wife has never done anything this crazy before. I knew she could be a little
petty and jealous of others, especially people she used to be friends with in the past, but it was
only talk, no action. We've otherwise had a very happy marriage. We rarely fight. We have a lot in
common. We have a lot of fun together, but she really fucked up this time.
I don't know how to move forward.
I know someone is going to suggest therapy, but I really want to start building up an emergency fund again because we're really pretty screwed financially for a while.
It's so fascinating to me that the financial focus is where they end because that is not the biggest problem.
Perfect.
I mean, this kind of behavior is so disturbing.
So disturbing.
But here's what I think, because even in the comments it agrees with this.
Like a lot of people are like, I think the bigger issue is not the financial problem.
But if she's doing this to someone who used to be her best friend, what would she do to the original poster if they were to get divorced?
100%. That's the thing. It's like people are either capable of this kind of thing or they're not.
They're capable of living this kind of double life where they're messing with somebody. I mean, there are a lot of famous cases like this. Like, are you familiar with the Luca Magnata case? It's like the don't fuck with Katz case.
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Where it's like they can live these like diabolical internet lives where they're juggling like multiple sock puppet accounts and they're juggling a bunch of usernames to harass and stalk people.
And it's like you're either capable and willing to do that or you're not.
And she is.
Well, also the O.P is talking about financially struggling.
The amount of energy that their wife is putting into this harassment.
Yeah.
Think about how much she could get done.
Yeah, she could get a job. How productive could she be? Yeah. She could make so much money. Seriously. Put that energy into like, I don't know, knitting. Make an Etsy account. Something. Ceramics? Anything. Yeah. It's just really evil to try to come at somebody's life in that way and to try to hurt them in that way. And it really is like psychological terrorism. So one of the big questions that commenters were asking was what happened between his wife and local.
for her to feel this angry. And we do get an answer about it. But I don't think any betrayal
would warrant this in my mind. Well, and I don't think she's angry. I think she's obsessed and
fixated. And I think there's some other element here because, like, that's not what angry people
do. That's something else. Yeah. So I'll read a couple comments and then we'll go to the updates.
So one comment is that is absolutely not normal. Your wife clearly has some serious issues that I think
you and she obviously need to start addressing that level of harassment and the duration of it is
frankly terrifying. And I feel like you should be concentrating on dealing with that rather than just
the financial fallout, which is kind of what you said. Yeah, there's much bigger issues here.
But I do understand how that would be scary all of your life savings. It's just gone.
Just from a practical standpoint. It's like you have to pay your bills and keep a roof over your
head. And that I understand. That's stressful. Also, I'd rather focus on that because it feels like
something you can fix where focusing on the just horror of the relationship is too scary.
Well, his wife's dangerous. Yeah. That's dangerous. And losing your house or not being able to pay your bills,
that's stressful. Yes. You know, but that's not dangerous in the same way. And then so one of the
other comments was, Homeboy thinks this is just one occurrence. It wasn't. This was hundreds or thousands
of vindictive actions over months or years. They said that she belongs in jail and that OP needs to
grow a spine and divorce his wife. Nowhere in his post does he mention that she feels any remorse for her
actions. Okay, so here are the updates. There are some common questions I wanted to address to provide
additional clarification. So the first question that the O.P. is responding to is how did she avoid
jail? I only mentioned the civil case since I felt that was the most appropriate to write about
because I was originally angry about our financial situation, but there was also a criminal case.
Our lawyer thought she would originally have to go to jail for three months.
However, we were able to get her punishment to be resolved by community service instead.
She has a lot of community service hours to complete within a year, which is good.
I feel like she needs to stay busy.
Yeah.
She will also be getting visits from a parole officer.
Laura and her husband did file restraining orders against her.
I honestly can't blame them for that.
It helped my wife that she had a clean record and has a family that works in law enforcement.
That helps a lot.
I want her to finish those community service hours before we talk about her working more hours to help pay me back.
Then the next question, this was like the biggest one that I had, is why did she do this to Laura?
That's a good question.
I have asked her this multiple times over the past several months to try to understand what this woman did to my wife.
She would tell me that Laura deserved everything horrible that she did to her, that Laura was a shitty person, a narcissist, a liar, and overall a scumbag.
but she would never give really specific examples.
I've been pressing her for more info,
and when she told me some specifics,
it made me feel sick to my stomach,
not because of what Laura did,
but because of how far my wife decided to go
due to some petty things that happened in their friendship.
So their friendship ended about eight to nine years ago.
They had been friends since early high school,
and it was over a man they had briefly both dated.
So this man, Matt, my wife, dated for a few months.
She broke up with him because she thought that Matt had feelings for Laura.
And Laura said she didn't want to date Matt because he had dated my wife.
My wife decided to test Laura and her loyalty and told Laura that she had her blessing to go ahead and date Matt.
And Laura and Matt did end up dating for a few months, which is shitty, but like happens.
You can't play the mind games and tell someone it's okay when you don't mean it.
Agreed.
And also not worth nine years later.
later trying to destroy some life over.
If Laura had gone to the wife and said, I want to date Matt, and then the wife, without meaning it,
said, like, fine, that's different.
Yeah.
Then Laura saying, I don't want to date him, you dated him, and Laura pushing it on her and then punishing her.
Yeah.
The wife pushing on Laura.
Yeah.
Correct.
And it's like, because then I could see how it's like, okay, Laura asked the wife and she wasn't
comfortable with it.
But what do you say?
It was only a brief relationship.
No, the wife literally planted it and pushed it.
Right.
And then punished her for it.
Yes.
So once Laura and Matt broke up, my wife told Laura that she had failed the loyalty test.
They fought and ultimately it was Laura who decided to end the friendship with my wife.
No, in case it's not clear, Laura's husband is not Matt.
So I was able to get some information from my wife about what inspired her to do this since their friendship had ended so long ago.
My wife said that she happened to see by chance, not by stalking,
Laura at a restaurant about two years ago, and it looked like Laura had lost a lot of weight and was fit.
My wife and I are both fairly overweight, and apparently Laura used to be overweight too.
So my wife admitted that she felt angry that Laura had lost a lot of weight while she had ever been able to.
My wife was also insulting Laura, saying that Laura doesn't make a pretty thin person and that her new muscular body was too masculine.
It's just so sad.
Like this woman clearly has a lot of, like, insecurities and is taking them out on someone else.
There's nothing. Laura could have looked literally any way when she ran into Laura at the restaurant and she would have been angry. Yeah. So it doesn't matter what Laura does. She's living her own life. I'm sure she looked great before. She looks great muscular. Like there was no winning. No, there was. None. Okay. My wife also insulted Laura's husband's looks and physique as well. I saw both Laura and her husband in person on multiple occasions. They both look like normal, attractive people who obviously work out. I could also tell my wife was irritated when she was.
she saw Laura at the courthouse the first time because Laura had just had a baby and you couldn't
really tell. So it's jealousy. Yes. My wife admitted that she just wanted to do some snooping to find
that Laura wasn't doing well in life, but instead found the opposite and was jealous of Laura's
success. She first found out both of their job titles because they work at tech companies with some
sort of engineering title and then estimated their salaries by using something called glass door.
and if that's accurate, then both Laura and her husband make really good money.
My wife also saw a photo on Facebook of Laura and her husband standing in front of what appeared to be their very beautiful and large home,
and she said she was angry because she knew Laura wasn't deserving of any of this.
So it's all jealousy, and it's all the O.P's wife building this, like, narrative in her head that who knows what's true?
Correct.
She proceeded to then insult Laura about how she's not.
that smart, not pretty, not responsible. She claimed that all Laura did through college was drugs,
drink, have sex with anything that had a penis, skip class, and failed a lot. My wife said that
Laura's the type who would cheat on her husband, that she's manipulative and always up to something,
although I would say look in the mirror. Yeah. Both Laura and her husband seemed very sad and
exhausted throughout the whole ordeal. I never picked up on anything sinister from Laura at all,
and if anything, I feel absolutely awful for her, which I, like, O.P. seems like a great, great guy.
Well, here's the thing. When you uncover another side as someone you think you know, if you're willing to be introspective, you know that you've been lied to and manipulated not in the same way, but in many other ways.
So many ways. Yeah, because there's no way. I mean, people who are duplicitous like this are not capable really of keeping it contained. They control all the people in their lives. They're playing chess constantly. So I'm sure he's had some come-to-Jesus moments.
Well, going back to what someone said in the comments of how.
this was like so many hundreds to thousands of like small vindictive choices over months and years,
I'm curious who else she's done this to? Because she got caught in this situation. But the way
that she was like so good at it, it makes me wonder if there have been others in the past.
Well, it's effective. I mean, going after someone's job, normally Laura's manager happened to be,
they had a good relationship to the point where the manager defended Laura. But that's not always what
happens. Do you watch Real Housewives of Rhode Island? Sometimes. Okay. Because in that, there's like,
I can't remember the names because by season two, I'll remember all the names. There's so many.
But there's one woman who called out a husband of another woman for having an affair, and that husband and the wife,
like we're trying to destroy her career, calling her boss and all this stuff. It's crazy.
People do it. Like, deal with your own shit. Okay, I'll go back to O.P. says,
O. O.P. says, I felt absolutely awful for Laura. I felt extreme shame and embarrassment. Whenever I was in the same room with Laura.
her husband. I don't think I was ever able to make direct eye contact with either of them.
So yeah, I was expecting Laura to have done something truly evil or sinister in the past,
but that just wasn't the case. The next question O.P. answers is, does your wife feel remorseful?
I want to say yes, she does. She's been really depressed since this all was finalized. However,
I can't help but think she's only sad because she got caught. She hasn't directly said anything
that would lead me to believe she's truly remorseful, and she's still angry at Laura for escalating to the point of a
criminal and civil case. She feels like Laura overreacted. My wife believes every horrible thing she said
about Laura. She's convinced that Laura is some alcoholic, drug addict who cheats on her husband is the
type to lie and cheat her way to the top of her career. And somehow Laura is able to hide all this
from everyone in her life. My wife felt like she was doing work to try to expose Laura for the monster
that she is. And she feels like Laura pressing charges and suing her is additional proof that Laura
is vindictive.
My hope is that she has time to think
while she's doing her community service hours
over the next year.
I think she feels bad that I had to empty out our accounts
and sell some things to come up with money.
I did talk to her about working more hours
when she's finished community service
and she agreed.
Okay, the next question O.P. answers
is, are you going to get divorced?
Because that was like everyone's comment.
Yeah.
Like divorce her.
O.P. says,
the thought has crossed my mind,
but we've been together for so long
and I still love her
despite this disgusting thing she has done.
I can't see my love.
life without her, but I know, and I'm having a hard time admitting this to myself, that if she doesn't
improve or learn a lesson from this mess, then I can't be with her anymore. But a lot of people
have mentioned that if she can do this type of thing to an ex-friend, then she can do the same to
an ex-husband, which has me worried, and I'd like to believe she wouldn't go nuclear on me
if I did file for a divorce, but I will be taking precautions in case I do have to defend
myself in the future. Well, definitely do it while she's on probation. Yes. But listen,
And Laura and the original poster's wife stopped being friends eight to nine years prior.
It didn't seem to matter that time passed.
Because it sounds like there's a lot going on in the O.P.'s wife's life.
Like maybe she's not feeling fulfilled, which is why when she saw Laura, like all of these own deeper insecurities came flooding out.
Not that that's an excuse, but I think she needs a lot of therapy.
Yeah, but I don't think people like this.
Like this is, for me, my, you know, perspective, it's akin to start.
where I don't think it's curable. Like these kind of obsessive fixations, if you're capable of
it, if your brain does it, if you really are so driven to destroy someone, then you have it in you.
I truly think it can, it's like a thing that can get switched on. I think you can have it in you,
but I want to believe that if you did enough work on yourself, if you were willing to be
introspective enough, you could channel that energy into yourself. That's a nice thought.
Trying to be optimistic. No, it's very, it's very, it's very,
optimistic. And I do think, like, just being in true crime, you know, there needs to be rehabilitation
because you can't throw someone in jail for the rest of their life for something like this.
Yeah, you can't. Right? So it's like, yeah, let's think that hopefully with therapy and maybe meds,
and maybe some guardrails, like probation, a probation officer. Yeah. Like, we like to think that it can
stop, but I don't know. Yeah. I'm skeptical. Okay. So the next question is about therapy. Everyone was
asking what about therapy? And OP wrote, I know we need this both as a couple and as individuals
to deal with this mess. I've talked to her about this and she doesn't seem totally solid on the
idea of therapy. I've expressed that I think it would help us both. And she seems indifferent at
this point, which I think is the biggest red flag. If she's not willing to do that work,
that means she doesn't think she has to change. That she doesn't think she did anything wrong.
She doesn't care. Yeah. Because if you can be okay with ruining,
forget an ex-friend. I wouldn't ruin my enemy's baby shower. I don't
have enemies, but if I did, I wouldn't ruin their baby shower. That's the biggest thing is
I just can't waste my time on people who have wronged me. I don't care. If Laura wronged you,
like, success and happiness is the best revenge. Like, I don't believe Laura wronged her. I don't
either. But like, here's a thing. Ruining a baby shower, you didn't just ruin Laura's day.
You ruined the father's day. You ruined Laura's family's day. Like, the ripple effects and how many
people you're hurting along the way. Like to not consider that, to not have the empathy, to explore
that possibility is, it's a certain type of person. I divorced someone for less than this. Yeah.
So I, if I were O.P., I'm out. 100%. I've never actually dealt with a personal relationship
with someone like this. I've encountered someone. Not on wood. Where is there wood? Because
I've encountered someone like this. But I have. Yeah. Well, I did a whole, in my old podcast and
I did a season called The Stalker's Web where this guy was a diabolical stalker who ended up going to jail for it.
But like internet stalking that ruined, ruined people's lives, like had naked photos of people, sent it to their coworkers, sent it to their family, like did the most horrible psychologically terroristic things.
You know, and it's like he's still not done and he's been doing it for decades and he's not over these fixations.
So, like, I'm a little bit more skeptical about people's ability to change if you're capable of this.
Fair.
Yeah.
But I hope you're right.
I hope so, too.
I want that for the original poster's wife.
Okay, the last thing that O.P. says about therapy is that I'm leaning towards that she has had some mental breakdown of some kind and focused all of her energy on this one woman in her life.
I'm not going to give up on my wife yet.
It's very possible that she has some underlying mental illness that could very well be treated with therapy or meds.
Kids are not involved.
And what's next is that is what the O.P. wants help with. I sat down with my wife a few times since the post and can feel some resistance coming from her about starting therapy. I think she's irritated at her parents who offered to pay for therapy for us. She has stated that she would rather us solve our problems together without interference from someone she doesn't know. And then O.P. says that she's afraid that we're not going to like any therapist we find and that the therapist will attack her throughout her sessions. So she doesn't want to be told she's wrong.
No, and she knows that she's the problem. So the therapist may be like, hey, she doesn't want a therapist to validate her husband and then always have to be in the wrong in every conversation. And then her, like, she can live in the delusion right now that he's part of the problem. And that it's not all her fault. She can live in that denial.
Or that Laura's the problem still. Yeah. Yeah. So just to end this story, I'll read a couple comments. Someone wrote, dude, I hate to break it to you. But if you're hoping this post is going to make me.
people more sympathetic to your wife, that's not happening. You need to make it clear to her that
therapy is not optional here. And I do agree with that. Like, I feel like that should be a deal breaker.
If she doesn't go to therapy, he's gone. What she did is beyond the borders of all rationality.
If things are going to get better, she needs professional grade help. If she refuses to acknowledge that,
then you need to ask yourself what you're trying to preserve here. And then someone else said she doesn't
want therapy because she doesn't want to be told that she's wrong. Yeah, she's embarrassed.
Yeah. Like, what she did is embarrassing. It's shameful.
I don't think she feels the embarrassment yet. I think she knows that if she has to go to therapy, she will feel that resentment. Or maybe she's a sociopath and doesn't feel embarrassment. She just feels rage. What do you all think? Our listeners, Redheads, is that what we're calling you? For today. Okay, redheads for today. What do you think? Let us know.
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Okay, you're ready for the second story?
I guess.
I mean, that one, what's going to top that one?
Okay, this is going to like, it's truly stomach.
churning. Oh, no. It's sickening. Okay, I'm ready. I'm not going to read what it's called.
Because it'll give it away. Because it will give it away. And I want to preserve the horror.
The shock value. Yeah. Okay. This might be one of the most horrifying things I've come across.
And I feel like I'm going to say that every episode as we read stories because Reddit is,
Reddit has some disturbing things. But okay, I 22 female, have been with my partner 24 male for four years now.
I've never known him to do anything like this,
but I noticed he started acting a little strange
around a month or maybe a month and a half ago.
My partner started putting fruit on the floor in the garden,
and I thought it was a bit weird,
but he said he was feeding the mice family
that have nested in our shed,
and I thought that was sweet,
and so I helped him do so.
Fruit on the ground, like outside?
In the shed, like, or in the garden for the mice.
Okay.
Cute.
I love mice.
So indoors or outdoors?
Outdoors.
Okay.
I believe. Anyway, he started being really nice to me around two weeks ago and was making me food, baking me cakes and stuff, which he usually never cooks. So I was happy that he found a hobby. I did notice that sometimes I felt sick and dizzy after eating, and I just put it down to a lack of sleep or hormones. Anyway, a friend of my partner came into my work today. I work in a cafe, and he said he needed to speak to me when I was free. I was free because there weren't any customers at the time.
This friend told me that my partner had been collecting slugs from the garden on the fruit that he has been putting out there and then putting these slugs in my food.
Blending them up.
He even sent this friend who was telling me this pictures of a bag of slugs he had collected and a picture of those slugs then blended.
I feel really sick to my stomach.
I don't understand why my partner would do this.
This is so out of character of him.
and I asked my partner why he was doing this,
and my partner accused me of snooping through his messages,
which I would never do,
and then he got angry at me for not being able to take a joke.
I feel disgusted.
I love him to pieces,
but I just don't understand his way of thinking,
am I overreacting?
I don't know what to do.
I feel lost.
There's so much wrong with it that I'm speechless.
Like, first of all, I like slugs.
Do you? Well, like...
Not us to eat.
No, but like, they're cute.
I agree.
They literally don't bother anyone.
They don't do anything to bother anyone.
No.
Maybe they eat leaves off some plants, annoying if you're a gardener, but this isn't that.
And like, it just seems like a bizarre, cruel thing to do.
It's abusive.
And then possibly poisonous to his partner and, like, what are you getting off on here?
Like, I would be interested to know, like, if they...
there's a weird fetish for just tricking people into eating things, because this is strange.
It's horrific. Yeah. I mean, who knows how long it had been going on for, too. But also,
if your partner has never made you any food and he just started randomly baking you cakes,
like red flag, I'm sorry, I'd be like... Also, the way that the O.P. was like, two weeks ago,
he started being extremely nice to me. And that seemed alarming to her, which is also like,
your partner should always be nice to you, first of all. It feels psychopathic.
Well, it means that he's getting off on duping her, you know, and, like, manipulating her into doing this.
Like, that's what he's enjoying and that's why he's being nice, which is really disturbing.
And then his response to get mad at her.
Yeah, total garbo gaslighting.
So all the comments kind of agree with us.
If anything, you're underreacting, you need to leave this psycho.
He's going to cause serious harm.
Slugs are notorious intermediate hosts for human parasites, which is terrifying.
This one, please forgive me for asking.
but are you fucking kidding me? And O.P. said I wish I was. Someone else said, if this is real,
and I'm leaning towards not because it's so fucking bizarre, you need to leave him immediately. He is trying
to poison you. He's lying about his behavior. He's hiding it and trying to play it off as a joke,
where there's absolutely zero way this is a joke. And now that he's been exposed, he's likely to
up the ante to physical and emotional abuse. You say you love him, but you should love yourself more
and leave. O.P. responds, I just found a jar of slugs under the sink. It's becoming
a reality now. I have packed my bags and left. He was scaring me. He was just staring at the wall
the whole time not even speaking. Okay, now there's an update. I went to urgent care last night,
early hours of the morning, and was finally seen around 6 a.m.ish. I had some tests and I have a high
level of metaldehyde in my blood, which is primarily functions as a mollusus. It's to kill slugs.
Oh. And snails and other gastropods in agricultural and residential settings. So I was kept in
the hospital for monitoring, and I have some old.
ulcers in my stomach, which I was aware of as I was hospitalized two months ago for a burst ulcer.
So I originally thought it was stressed, but now they said it could be because of poisoning.
So Opie has fully been being poisoned.
Well, the slugs may have been.
Then he collects, like people poison the slugs at their own homes to get rid of them.
And then he's collecting those slugs.
And the poison's getting into his partner.
So he's poisoning his partner.
Yeah, with slugs.
I could have an infection of some kind as my temperature is high, but they have
haven't found anything that could be causing it yet. They've checked my heart and it's fine.
And then as context, the OPE is also due to have heart surgery this year, but they're delaying
it due to the ulcers and infections. I have an appointment to see my cardiologist on April 20th.
I contacted the police and wrote a statement and was asking some questions. My ex refused to say
anything to the police or to me. However, he did say he would speak to his friend and only him. So the
friend who, like, which thank goodness this friend. The friend who did the right thing and added out his
good person. He then spoke to me. I was not alone. I was with some friends. And my partner confessed
to doing random experiments on me and tests starting a few months after we moved in together.
It started with spitting on my toast. And then a week later, he replaced my medication beta blockers
with salt. And I want to add my partner was my medication holder because I have a suicidal history.
So he handles my meds and gives them to me and thought it would be funny. We're dealing with a really,
Yeah. He also admitted to these things like swapping my Linda McCartney vegetarian
sausages with real meat. I have IBS and struggled to digest meat, so I became a vegetarian.
He also replaced my corn nuggets with real ones. O.P. also had a pet giant African land snail,
and it went missing in the summer, which I assume escaped as I left the lid open on the box,
but he said it died. So he scraped it out and put it in my curry. And I vaguely remember the day
he did this because for some reason he kept laughing whenever I went to eat my curry. I got really
paranoid, so I put it in the kitchen and stormed off. He then brought it upstairs and told me to taste it,
and I did, and I realized he added loads of chili powder. At the time, he said he was laughing because
he accidentally put too much chili powder, but now I realize he was laughing because he put my snail in there.
He also said he rubbed my toothbrush on the toilet and then washed it thinking it was too far.
truly all of this feels like a dream
it just seems too dramatic to feel real
I'm unsure of what is happening on the legal front
he says he didn't know why he did this
that he does love me truly
but that he felt compelled to do it
I'm sorry he doesn't love you
no one who loves you is going to do this to you
he's evil yeah
I suffer from OCD and I get compulsions
too and he does love taking care of me
he feels it's his purpose
and he didn't mean to cause me serious harm
also the fact that he feels like it's his purpose
to take care of you.
Well, that's interesting.
And I think there can be some nuance here or, like, overlap of what's going on or what's
motivating him because, like, maybe he's trying to make her sick so that she needs him.
And he can swoop in and be the savior.
Yeah, like some weird version of that.
Either way, it's deranged.
Yeah.
And then OPE ends the, like, update saying, I think he could be stressed, just have stress
as I have mental health issues that could have caused something in him to break.
So they're trying to, like, put it on themselves.
Which is not O.P.'s fault at all. Have you seen obsession? Yes. This reminds me of, I mean, granted, there's like a much bigger theme with that movie, but just if we're looking at the context of like the film, the cat situation. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Here are the comments. We do have another update afterwards, but I'll read a couple comments. What the fuck? This is seriously abusive. He fucked with your meds, fed you things that could have really hurt you. Feeding you your dead snail is just wow. I sincerely.
hope that you're going to pursue charges against him and never be with him again. He is dangerous
and disturbed. Another one said, do not try to excuse what he did to you. He is abusing you.
Never speak to him without someone else being there and don't believe him when he says he loves you.
Your life is some messed up experiment to him. And I did find one additional update where O.P.
wrote, my partner was diagnosed with ASPD, which is antisocial personality disorder yesterday,
and admitted everything to me
and how I was his way
of looking normal to the outside world
that he manipulated me
by giving me everything I wanted
love affection and compliments
that he began testing me emotionally at first
with cheating to see how I'd react
but I forgave him
which then is why he began
with the food and stuff to see how long
until I got sick
he's a sociopath though
that's what you know antisocial personality traits
like that's what that is
it's like you don't conform
with the norms in society, which is governed by like the laws of like we don't hurt each other.
Like there's some trust here.
Like he totally took advantage of her trust.
Yep.
The exact description of ASPD is a mental health condition characterized by a chronic pattern of disregarding the rights, emotions, and well-being of others.
Individuals with ASPD often manipulate, exploit, or violate others without showing remorse and may struggle with law, impulsivity, and substance abuse.
Yeah.
like truly a horrible human being. And I've talked to like psychological profilers before who talked about
how sociopaths and people who struggle with this, like they need titillation. Like so they don't do
these things for any reason other than it's exciting. It's exciting for them to get away with it.
They're pushing the boundaries to see how far they can go. But they need that. That's like that's why
they cause chaos, you know, when they when they're in like even in business environments, it's like
they have to be making someone miserable and they have to be so in case.
or they're bored. Yeah. Truly thank goodness for the friend because had that friend not told
O.P., what's going on, who knows how long it could have gone, who knows what could have happened?
And I did, to like end this story in like a somewhat positive way, I found their username and
then like looked up at all the comments they've made recently. And as recent as July, they had posted
on Reddit saying, I'm doing okay. Well, one, they were like commenting on
jewelry. So they're buying jewelry, having a great time on Reddit over there. But then,
in pertaining to this case, they said, I'm doing okay. More stuff has happened throughout the
years that made me reevaluate myself worth as I was dating these horrible men constantly and
realized that I didn't have to accept below the minimum anymore. And thankfully now I'm with someone
who has taught me what real love is and has helped me heal to the point where I can even make jokes
about it now, not fully. And I can't see or hear the S word slugs. But I can call them creatures.
and I started eating mushrooms again and other foods that do remind me without noticing that I made big changes.
And I am happy and proud of how I'm doing.
Yeah.
Good for them.
I mean, yeah.
That's traumatic.
Like, there's no words.
And I also, it just, I can't even fathom.
So I'm a vegetarian.
I have been my whole life.
I was raised vegetarian.
And I've had partners who, like, find that as a problem and, like, make jokes about replacing my, like,
vegan patties or vegetarian patties with meat, which I find so offensive because it's like,
I'm not impacting you.
Like, just because I don't eat meat doesn't, I'm not stopping you from it.
Yeah.
Why do you care so much about, like, what I'm doing?
Right.
And diet is so personal.
Yeah.
What people eat is so personal.
And like, I don't think anyone, I don't think vegans or vegetarians should try to
convert meat eaters.
I don't think meat eaters should try to convert vegetarians.
Like, I think it's such a personal choice that, like, we all got to do our own thing.
But it's just what he was.
doing was so insidious. Violating. It's abusive. Yeah. And what's so disturbing, too, is that, like,
she obviously has big underlying medical conditions. Had something happened, they probably would have
blamed that. 100%. You know, like, she was scheduled for heart surgery. It's crazy. It's so sickening.
Yeah. Okay. Our last story. I mean, what could it possibly be after the first two?
This one, it's not as, I mean, it's dark, but it has a little bit more of an uplifting.
Okay.
Slightly.
Slightly.
Well, and you said there was no murder in this episode.
There's slug murder.
That's true.
Many slugs.
Yes.
Yes.
We're blended up.
Yes.
Oh, it's so gross.
I hope no one has to eat lunch after this.
Okay.
The last one.
I, 21 male, got a friend request from my dead ex-girlfriend, 21 female.
In eighth grade, I met this girl, North.
She was in my band class and the two of us hit it off.
I asked her out on a movie date and we became boyfriend and girlfriend.
She was my first girlfriend and things were going all right.
That was until her dad got a new job across the country in California,
which meant that North moved away.
But we decided to try out long-distance dating through our freshman year of high school.
We were not built for long-distance dating.
I couldn't protect her from bullies.
I couldn't hug her when she was crying or tell her it was going to be all right when she
told me about her depression. We got into arguments about God knows what, but decided to keep
the relationship going because her dad was trying to transfer back closer to our hometown. That was
until she stopped texting me around Christmas. And her sister sent me a funeral program
and asked me to go to California. North's sister told me that North took her own life because
the bullying was getting so bad and because I wasn't there for her when she needed me. It broke
my heart that I couldn't go to California for the funeral. And for the past eight years, I've mourned
her loss. First of all, North's sister can, you know the words. Like, seriously. And it's like,
these are kids. You don't blame kids for things like this. But I also do understand, like,
if you're caught up in that emotion wanting to blame someone else, and I could forgive that.
But the guilt that O.P. probably felt is, I can't even imagine.
No, and I could forgive that too, but just the idea that, like, you weren't there to protect her.
Okay, your family moved to California. What is, like, what am I supposed to do?
He's a minor. Yeah. Move by himself. Okay. I'm just waiting because there's a turn.
There's something coming. Yeah. Okay. I spent the entirety of my high school career trying to rebuild myself from all that damage. I went to meetings for people who have lost family members.
and loved ones. I went to therapy for four years to try and help process this loss. I had to learn
how to become dependable because I didn't want that to happen again. And after working on myself for four
years, I finally asked out one of my classmates, Lucy. Lucy and I started dating at the tail end of our
senior year and are about to celebrate our four-year anniversary in April. Last night, I got a
notification from Facebook saying that I got a new friend request. I opened the app and found that this
friend request was from North. She looks older, and it is undeniable. It is her. There are pictures of her
as an adult with her fiance and her newborn daughter. I spent eight years of my life believing
that North was dead, but here she is, undeniably, that she is living a great life without me.
My stomach is in knots, my heart is sinking to the ground, and my mind is racing to try to figure
out what happened and what I should do. Do I accept the friend request? Do I ignore it and try to move on?
I feel completely lost and I feel like my entire life has been a lie. I spent the entire night looking at
pictures of her and her family floored that she would do this to me. Do you think it's real?
So it's either North who did this or North's sister. So I would ask the question and give them one
opportunity to explain because what if North sister is evil and told North that he died?
Sure. You know, like, I would be like, I'll give you one chance to explain this before I block you and like write you off.
Right. And you're a psycho, and tell you you're a psychopath and like never contact me again.
Well then when I was first reading this, I'm thinking about AI and how like you can create images of people when they look older and like you can create so much with AI these days that I could also see a world where like someone was fucking with OP and is like, oh, that girlfriend that died.
Hey, actually, she's still alive, but it's all fake.
But who?
And why?
If it's been like eight or nine years.
And the truth is, she's not dead.
That's great.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, it's really messed up.
Okay.
So the comments are, she faked her own death to break up with you.
That is beyond cruel.
Dude has been mourning her for almost a decade.
And then she has the guts to send him a friend request.
Whatever you do, please discuss this with your girlfriend as well.
She will likely feel betrayed if you take up contact with an ex, which you never got closure from without telling her.
That being said, I would accept the request and ask her about the fake funeral and everything because you have a right to know.
And Opie wrote, Jesus, I didn't even think about how to talk to Lucy about this.
I know I need to tell her, but I don't even know how to bring it up.
So you have an update.
So I decided to wait until Lucy gets home from work before I make any decision on whether or not to accept the friend request.
I want to know what she thinks, and I can always depend on her to keep me level-headed.
But until then, I just kind of want to sort out my feelings.
I remember the day that I found out about North's supposed death.
It was a few days before Christmas, the snow had just started to hit the ground, and I remember
walking to the edge of the neighborhood along Main Street.
I sat on the sidewalk watching the cars thinking about how if I walked into the road,
they wouldn't stop.
I was sitting there on the sidewalk contemplating for what felt like hours if I wanted to
keep living.
It was the most important choice of my life.
Now that choice feels hollow, it feels meaningless.
Every decision that I made since then has come.
from that choice I made eight years ago, and now it feels empty and without promise.
Please don't think for a second that I plan to do anything drastic. I really don't.
I want to keep making the choice to live, but for now I just need to figure out my meaning.
Yeah, like the last eight years of their life was a complete lie. Okay, update two. I accepted
the friend request. After Lucy and I talked about it, we agreed that the possibility of getting
some sort of closure would be worth it. So I accepted the front request and sent North a text saying,
hello. About half an hour later, I received a notification that North responded, and we started
talking about how our lives have been. Turns out, her and her fiancé were in town visiting family,
and it started to make her think about all the hurt she cost me, and she wouldn't feel comfortable
moving on with her relationship without knowing if I was okay. She tried to apologize saying that we
were dumb kids and that it seemed easier to ghost me instead of break up with me. She told me all about
how in some messed up teenager way, she thought that giving me an excellent,
explanation to her ghosting me would make it easier to move on. So she and her sister concocted
the whole story about her death. I told her about the years of therapy, the years of loneliness,
about how guilty I felt when I started dating again. I told her how I used to think that she was
the one for me, even through the nights of arguing, and that she left me more hurt than if she had
just thrown me away. And I told her in some weird way I'm thankful to her because her death,
although it was fake, did change me for the better and that I wouldn't be the man I am to
if it wasn't for her. I then said, having said that, I will not accept your apology. It is a shallow
attempt to free your own guilty conscious before you get married. If you were really sorry,
you would have said something sooner, you would have apologized sooner, or you wouldn't have done
it at all. You took the coward way out, and I do not forgive cowards, which truly beautiful
response. Yes. Because also, like, cool, I get the whole you guys were in like ninth grade.
Yeah. I get that, okay?
I don't get allowing your sister to blame him.
No.
I don't get that.
Like, that's be cruel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't get waiting almost a decade to clear it up.
And I also don't understand how, like, in a social media day and age, she got away with it for so long.
Yeah.
She said she understood hope that one day I could move past the hurt that she caused me and find it in my heart to forgive her.
I took screenshots of the whole conversation, and I sent it to her fiancé, because I don't know if he knows the same.
story between me and her, but now he can have enough of an idea that they start the conversation.
I hope they can figure it out and move past it. After all, they do look happy together, and the
mistakes of a teenager should not affect her current life. However, I'd be lying if I said there wasn't
a part of me that hopes it crashes and burns, which I get. That's fair. These weren't just
mistakes of a teenager, though. They dragged into her adulthood by not clearing the air.
Yeah. Bizar. Bizarre thing to do. On the bright side, I can now truly move on from the
relationship that cost me eight years of my life and put the whole story of North behind me.
Thank you to everyone who helped me find the courage to face this head on. And thanks to everyone
who sent kind words. I guess that's a happy ending in the sense that she's not dead.
Well, the original poster is choosing to look at this with a glass half full attitude.
Yeah. But they are choosing to do that. You know, it depends on your perspective. And I guess like
because they're able to see this through a healthy lens, it's a happy-ish ending.
But like dark, man.
It's super dark.
So dark.
What's like your worst breakup?
Like have people lied to you for breakups?
I believe so, but they must have done it well because I don't really know what, like, I obviously
have the kind of breakups where people are like, no, there's nothing going on between me and so-and-so,
and then we break up and then they're like married.
So that's definitely.
happened where it's like, no, I don't even find her attractive. Like, ew, married in two years. So
that's happened where I'm like, okay, something must have been going on because that was like a
coworker. Yeah. I've had some weird stuff happen. I've definitely had like love bombing and then like
total abrupt breakup. Yeah. Like you just told me you love me though, like kind of shit. Yeah.
Nothing like this. No. No. Pretending to die.
Pretending to die. That's the extreme. And you have and I have talked about this about how
you and I are both bad at breaking up with people. Yeah, I don't do it. So, like, we wait for other people
to break up with us. Yeah. I remember the first time I tried to break up with someone,
I started crying because they wouldn't let me. And they thought that me crying was me not
wanting to break up with them, but I was crying because they wouldn't let me break up with them.
Yeah. Oh, literally, I've had, there is one person that I did break up with, but they did not
want to let me either. I'm like, no, let's move it in together. I'm like, that's the opposite
of breaking up. That's literally not the opposite of what I'm trying to do. Oh, gosh.
The worst breakup I had, and I'm grateful that this is the worst, is when I was in, what was it, like, seventh grade, I had. This is the worst, your seventh grade breakup?
It's only because it's funny. Okay. I've had, like, worse in terms of, like, relationship issues, but I had an AIM away message on, and a boy sent me a message saying, hey, it's over. I had an away message on. I wasn't even there.
What was the away message? Probably like...
BRB.
BRB.
Like, with my girlies, playing soccer.
With my BFF.
Yeah.
And it was the lowercase, uppercase, lowercase, upper case.
Yeah, 100%.
Absolutely.
Yeah, but I got broken up with when I had an away message on.
It's so rude.
I would take that every day over this.
I hit my mind.
Yes.
Over this.
But I'm like, I'm like, okay, well, at least be a little bit more elaborate.
Like, what if you'd been like, cool, I'm on my way to the funeral.
Stage a funeral then.
Like, you got to really do it then.
I know, then they would have had to make up something else or I don't know.
They literally created a fake funeral.
Camplet.
Impressive, actually, for like high school kids.
Now I'm curious, all of you, threadheads, if that's what we're calling you today, are listeners.
What are your craziest breakup stories or what are things that you found out about hopefully past partners that were devious and scary?
Yeah, we want the tea.
Yeah, you can tell us, we have a whole.
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