Money Crimes with Nicole Lapin - SERIAL KILLER: "The Candy Man" Dean Corll

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

In early 1970s Houston, Texas, businessman Dean Corll used free candy, a party-ready apartment, and a carefully cultivated reputation as a community pillar to lure teenage boys to their deaths. But be...hind his friendly facade, Corll was systematically grooming victims... and recruiting young accomplices to help him carry out increasingly brutal crimes. This episode traces his childhood, his escalating predatory behavior, and the first chapter of a murder spree that would claim dozens of lives.Follow Serial Killers & Murderous Minds for Part 2 of this episode: https://pod.link/1769285458Join Crime House+ to binge a special limited series on Murder: True Crime Stories for America’s 250th: The Crimes That Built America. These are the cases that created the FBI, gave us Miranda rights, sparked criminal profiling, and gave us America’s Most Wanted. Join at crimehouseplus.com or if you’re listening on Apple Podcasts, tap “Try Free” at the top of this show’s page. You’ll also get ad-free and early released episodes across the Crime House lineup.🎧 Need More to Binge? Listen to other Crime House Originals Clues, Crimes Of…, Crime House 24/7, Serial Killers & Murderous Minds, Murder True Crime Stories, and more wherever you get your podcasts!Follow me on SocialInstagram: @CrimehouseTikTok: @CrimehouseFacebook: @crimehousestudiosX: @crimehousemediaYouTube: @crimehousestudios

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Starting point is 00:00:49 This is Crime House. Most of us had an adult in our lives that we looked up to as a kid, someone we admired and wanted to be like when we grew up. If we were lucky, that person made us feel seen, special, and capable of anything. To many teenage boys in Houston, Texas in the early 1970, Dean Coral was that person. He listened to them and provided a fun place to hang out when a life at home was too hard to take. However, Dean's motives were anything but pure.
Starting point is 00:01:25 In reality, he was luring these boys in, trapping them and forcing them to meet a brutal end. The human mind is powerful. It shapes how we think, feel, love, and hate, but sometimes it drives people to commit the unthinkable. This is serial killers and murderous minds, a crimehouse original. I'm Vanessa Richardson. And I'm forensic psychologist Dr. Tristan Ingalls.
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Starting point is 00:02:27 crimehouseplus.com. Or if you listen on Apple Podcasts, tap try free at the top of the serial killers and murderous minds page. Before we get started, be advised that this episode contains discussion of pedophilia, rape, and murder. So please listen with care. Today we begin our deep dive into Dean Coral, a Houston-based business owner who used his status in the community to lure, rape, and kill dozens of teenage boys in the 1970s. But Dean didn't just ensnare his victims. He also manipulated two young accomplices. And even though he used them to carry out his twisted desires, Dean had no idea that one of the people closest to him would usher in his downfall. As Vanessa goes to the story, I'll be talking about things like the grooming,
Starting point is 00:03:16 tactics that are used by some abusers, how emotional repression can lead to uncontrollable anger, and how a community can miss the signs that a violent predator is operating among them. And as always, we'll be asking the question, what makes a killer? Dean Coral was born on December 24, 1939 in Fort Wayne, Indiana. His parents considered his birth a Christmas gift. However, Dean's early life was anything but magical. His mom and dad, Arnold and Mary, had a rocky marriage, largely because, as Dean got older, they disagreed on how to raise him.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Arnold was a military man and all about discipline, while Mary preferred to let Dean have fun. The details of their disagreements aren't clear, but as the years went by, the couple thought more often. By the time Dean turned six, Mary noticed how isolated he was. Dean couldn't seem to make friends and struggled to talk to other kids his age. When parents fight, especially about how to raise their child, the child is almost always at the center of it, even if it's not intended. Children are sponges. And because of where they are developmentally, and no matter how hard parents might try to shield them from it, they see and they hear these arguments and they can subsequently feel personally responsible for them. Children don't have the life experience to understand that adults have their own problems that are independent of them.
Starting point is 00:04:47 So when mom and dad are fighting about how to raise them, the natural conclusion that a child draws is that something about them is the problem. And what Dean is experiencing here is interparental conflict. And that can make a home feel unpredictable and emotionally unsafe. And when home doesn't feel safe, forming relationships outside of it can become harder because connection requires a basic sense of security that their current environment made it hard to develop, which can explain the social isolation that Mary noticed in Dean. It could also be that Dean learned that the safest strategy response was to become invisible. Don't draw attention or don't cause problems. Don't give anyone a reason to fight. That can look like shyness from the outside, but what's actually
Starting point is 00:05:35 happening underneath is a child who has learned that expressing themselves could carry risk. And if that's what's happening to Dean, that would mean that the very behavior that's keeping him safe at home is the very behavior that's alienating himself from his peers. But it's also entirely possible that his parents are too preoccupied with their conflict to actually socialize Dean. He's only six years old. It's not like he can seek out social opportunities without their help, and social skills acquisition is an extremely important thing. Unfortunately for Dean, his family life was only going to get more difficult. By 1945, Arnold and Mary had a second son. And for the next few years, the family moved around while Arnold was restationed.
Starting point is 00:06:22 The couple tried their best to make things work. Mary even moved herself and the boys into a trailer at one point, so she and the boys could be near Arnold. But in the end, the pair couldn't make it work. And by 1953, when Dean was 14, Arnold and Mary got divorced. They'd been living in Houston, Texas, and she decided to stay there with the boys. Soon after, Mary met a salesman named Jake West, and he moved her and the boys to a small town called Vider, Texas.
Starting point is 00:06:51 On the surface, it seemed like they'd finally found the stability they needed. But most likely, living in Viter exposed Dean, who was white, to troubling things. At the time, Vider was known as a sundown town, which meant black people weren't allowed within town limits after the sun went down. And if they were, they could be killed by the white residents. For most young people, the community they grow up in can teach them what is. is acceptable, who deserves respect, and where the boundaries of human decency are. And for a 14-year-old already struggling socially, an environment like this can teach him that dehumanizing people
Starting point is 00:07:29 is accepted, or community policy even. And what makes this particularly concerning for someone like Dean is the timing. Adolescence is the critical window when young people are actively figuring out who they are. They're trying to find their identity. And they're figuring out what they believe, what they value, and how they relate to the world around them. Exposing an already socially struggling teenager to a community that normalized violence against people based on who they were can shape the values that they're currently trying to form. And this may have seemed like a stable move on the surface because of the removal of the parental conflict that he was experiencing, but he traded one bad environment for another one. It's possible that living in a sundown town
Starting point is 00:08:15 taught Dean that certain forms of violence, including deadly violence, were acceptable, and this wasn't the only form of dangerous behavior he was exposed to in Viter. It was a small, slow town. Neighborhood kids found some problematic ways to entertain themselves, like capturing wild animals and burning them alive. Dean didn't seem as interested in doing that, though, and as he moved into his teenage years, he continued to isolate himself. At school, he found small ways to get to.
Starting point is 00:08:45 involved, like playing trombone in the band, although he didn't have any actual friends. Dean didn't seem to know how to relate to others, but soon his mom found a way to help him stay busy. When Dean was still in high school, Mary, who was an avid baker, decided to open her own candy-making business, which she ran from home. Dean helped maintain the machinery, boxed the candy, and made all the deliveries. The business was an instant hit, and soon the family was relying on it to get by. But Mary could tell how much pressure that put on Dean. So after he graduated high school, she sent him to stay at his grandmother's farm in Indiana. While there, Dean finally found other people he enjoyed spending time with.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But he clearly didn't understand how to relate to others appropriately. For one, most of the kids Dean met in Indiana were a few years younger than him, which may have been why they didn't realize how odd his behavior was. Dean's favorite activity was making so-called doctor movies. He'd set up a camera and film himself pretending to be a doctor. One of the neighborhood girls would be the patient. Dean would drape a sheet over her, then pull chicken gizzards out from underneath the sheet,
Starting point is 00:09:57 making it look like he was removing her organs. It seems like Dean genuinely found this amusing. And if any of the other kids were uncomfortable with it, they didn't say so. Dean lived in Indiana for a couple of years, he seemed happy there. But then his mom needed his help running her business back in Texas, so she brought him home. By this time, she'd moved back to Houston and was running her business there. However, Dean was uprooted again in August of 1964 when he was 25 years old and was
Starting point is 00:10:29 drafted into the armed forces. He eventually started working as a military radio repairman in Fort Hood, Texas. Then, after about 10 months, Dean's military career came to an abrupt and mysterious end. In June 1965, he was honorably discharged. Mary told people it was because she needed his help at home, but there were rumors that Dean was kicked out of the military because he was gay. Dean eventually confessed to a friend that he did, in fact, have his first sexual encounter with another man while serving in Fort Hood.
Starting point is 00:11:05 It's not clear whether the Army actually knew about it, but Dean definitely didn't want people back home to know about it. about it. If Dean was having same-sex experiences while serving in the military in the mid-1960s, that would have been something he had every reason to hide. This was not an environment where he could safely be open about that part of his life. Exposure could have meant humiliation, rejection, loss of status, or serious consequences within the military. So whatever he was feeling or doing privately, he likely had to conceal it. And then he'd be going home to Houston, but he also grew up for a part of time in Vidor, where it was a town that he had already seen how dangerous
Starting point is 00:11:46 prejudicedness could be when a community decided that certain people did not belong. So that kind of fear likely reinforced to him secrecy and compartmentalization and the importance of keeping parts of his life completely separate. And I want to make it clear that it does not explain or excuse what he later did in life and his sexuality is not a causation whatsoever. But in Dean's case, secrecy becomes clinically relevant because it later became central to how he operated. It's also central to how many serial offenders operate. So the concern is that he likely learned from his childhood, from growing up in Vidor, from the military, that exposure was dangerous and concealment was necessary.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Is it possible that Dean's lifelong tendency to self-isolate might have factored into what he was experiencing at this point in his life? Yeah, in addition to what I just met, with how it can contribute to compartmentalization and reinforced secrecy, isolation likely limited the very things that might have helped him also process shame or fear of exposure in a healthier way. People need connection and supportive relationships in moments like this because other people help us to reality test against our most critical or distorted thoughts. They help us feel value. And without that, shame can become more rigid because it has nowhere else to go.
Starting point is 00:13:09 So instead, it can turn into self-loathing or outward into resentment, anger, or a need to regain control or power. Dean knew he couldn't risk revealing the truth about himself. However, he wasn't just hiding the fact that he was attracted to other men. Dean's sexual desires were actually far more troubling because around this time he found himself being drawn to boys who were much younger than him. Oddly, Dean didn't seem to make a huge effort to hide his feelings. Maybe he thought people would never consider the possibility of a grown man pursuing younger boys. But around town, Dean openly approached pre-teen and teenage boys, chatted with them, and invited them to hang out.
Starting point is 00:13:52 It's possible that Dean felt the candy business was a good cover, especially when Mary opened a storefront right across the street from the local elementary school. Dean then signed a lease on a nearby apartment where he began luring local boys with promises of free candy. The more Dean got boys alone, the more he realized how easy it would be to keep them there for as long as he wanted. And once that realization set in, Dean Coral acted on his darkest urges. In 1965, 25-year-old Dean Coral moved into an apartment near his mother's new storefront in Houston, Texas.
Starting point is 00:14:37 The candy store was located right across the street from an elementary school, which Dean loved, because it fed into his growing. attraction toward underage boys. Dean started hanging out near the school and offering boys free candy. They just had to come to his apartment to get it. Soon, Dean earned the nickname the Candyman, and the local boys loved spending time with him. When they weren't at his apartment, they hung out at the factory where Dean had set up lounge chairs and a pool table in the back room. Teenage boys especially loved this. And soon, Dean decked out his apartment to appeal more to slightly older boys as well. He installed a stereo system and let them play music as loudly as they
Starting point is 00:15:19 wanted. Then he did the same to his van, which became like a party lounge on wheels. And that's when more people in the community started to notice just how odd Dean's behavior was. It was one thing to promote the candy business, but it was another thing to spend all his free time partying with underage boys. People were so put off by it, the principal of the elementary school asked Dean to stop inviting the kids over. However, the principal didn't express his true concerns. Instead, he told Dean it was unsafe for the boys to cross a busy street to get to his apartment. Regardless, at the end of the day, the principal couldn't stop the boys from going there, especially because he didn't have the full community's support, because a lot of people saw Dean as a productive, hardworking, and all-around
Starting point is 00:16:06 nice guy. In their eyes, he was maybe a little eccentric, but he was harmless. Dean's mother, also defended him. She said Dean wasn't the one approaching neighborhood boys, but that they were seeking him out and that he wanted to set a good example by being open and receptive to them. This is one of the most important dynamics in cases like this. People often don't ignore warning signs because they see nothing. They ignore them because the warning signs conflict with the story that they already believe or that they want to believe. Dean had built a very specific public image like you outlined for us, Vanessa, he was hardworking, helpful, generous with all the neighborhood kids. Adults saw him as odd, maybe socially unusual, but not dangerous. And once someone has been placed in the harmless,
Starting point is 00:16:54 eccentric category like that, people are more likely to interpret concerning behavior through that lens. That's rationalization. It's a defense mechanism. It allows people to explain away discomfort without having to confront what that discomfort might mean. And there is also a community protection, here because if the concern is true, then a lot of adults have to face very uncomfortable questions. Like, why did we let our children keep going there? That kind of realization is psychologically threatening. So sometimes denial, which is another defense mechanism, becomes easier than accountability. And Mary's defense of him fits into that pattern too. Parents are more inclined to see their child as good or misunderstood, which is why Mary reframe the situation in a way that
Starting point is 00:17:41 protected Dean, and in doing so, she placed the responsibility on the children. They were coming to him. He was just being receptive. Even if the boys were going to his house voluntarily, Dean was the adult. He had the power, the responsibility, and the obligation to maintain appropriate boundaries. So it's not necessarily that everyone knew he was dangerous and simply did not care. It's just more complicated than that. The truth was, Dean hadn't technically done anything wrong, at least as far as anyone else knew. But in reality, spending time with neighborhood boys and forming good relationships with them was all part of his plan. He was grooming them, and he wouldn't let anyone get in the way, not even his own mother. In 1968, Mary and her
Starting point is 00:18:29 second husband, Jake, split up. Soon after, she entered a relationship with a man who was abusive. To get away from him, Mary decided to move to Colorado. She told Dean she would restart the candy business there. But Dean refused to go with her. He also refused to keep the Houston business running, so they shuttered the factory. Dean didn't mind, though. He no longer felt like he needed the candy business to lure in underage boys. And he supported himself financially with a new job as an electrician at the Houston Lighting and Power Company. At the same time, he knew that without the candy business, he'd have to find a new cover for his grooming tactics. So he did something unexecutive. So he did something expected and started dating a woman his own age. Her name was Betty Hawkins, and she had young
Starting point is 00:19:18 children of her own. As a single mother, Betty's children sometimes came on their dates with them, which gave Dean the perfect excuse to invite boys from the neighborhood to come along too. Dean did what most serial offenders eventually do. They become chameleons. They enter into relationships of all kinds, marriages even, families, not because they genuinely, want connection, but because they want to appear normal. They understand how trust and suspicion work and how to navigate both. The only difference is that Dean is entering a heterosexual relationship, when that may not be his orientation, but the underlying mechanism is the same. He's wanting to manage perception. John Wayne Gacy did the same thing. He married two women and targeted the same demographic as
Starting point is 00:20:05 Dean. But what's particularly calculating about Dean is that this relationship gave him more access to children, and that's what predators do. They seek ways to get more access. It also speaks to his capacity for impression management. He was able to present a version of himself that reassured people while privately pursuing something very dark. That requires planning, deception, and exploitation of social assumptions. He knew what people wanted to see, and he gave it to them. But he was using another person's life to hide behind. Betty may have believed that she was in a real relationship. Meanwhile, her children and the children in the community were continuing to be placed near someone dangerous while he continued a performance of normalcy. What does this tactic tell you about
Starting point is 00:20:56 Dean's ability to pick up on social dynamics and norms? Despite the fact that he's always been an outcast, he's always been like an loner, but he seems to pick up these cues really well. Just because someone is socially isolated and didn't really have friends or was a loner or didn't really learn social skills in the traditional way does not mean that they failed to learn social dynamics. Being an outsider can create distance, but distance can also create curiosity. You may not be fully participating in the room, but you are still studying it. And Dean had a lot of opportunities to study those dynamics. As a child, the early inter-parental conflict and instability that we discussed earlier could have created hypervigilance, meaning he learned to read the room because that was necessary.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He had to pay attention to mood shifts, excuses, and what the adults were talking about for his survival emotionally. He also grew up around adults who protected appearances. When his parents were constantly in conflict, he was receiving a mixed message. The adults were trying to keep the family looking intact, even when it was on stable and unsafe. And when Mary left his father, she immediately remarried. So having a family may be an important value that he was taught, which could be contributing here too. But Dean also watched his mother defend him and offer rationalizations for concerns that people had about him. He noticed how
Starting point is 00:22:21 the candy business gave him a socially acceptable role with children. He saw that being helpful, hardworking, and polite made adults more comfortable with him. He saw that if something looked familiar enough, people were less likely to question it, which could have been something he learned from the community he grew up in in Vidor. All that to say, Dean is socially intelligent. He understood what people wanted to see, what made them feel reassured, and which roles gave him access and which behaviors gained trust and lowered suspicion. But although he was socially perceptive, he was also manipulative, exploitative, and calculated. And that is a very dangerous combination. Dean seemed like he definitely knew how to manipulate them in his favor. Once he felt people
Starting point is 00:23:07 were no longer eyeing him as closely, he felt free to act on his dangerous fantasies. And it turned out his intentions weren't only sexual in nature. On September 28, 1970, 18-year-old Jeffrey Allen Conan was hitchhiking from Austin to Houston. Jeffrey was a student at the University of Texas, and he wanted to see his girlfriend. He'd made it most of the way, and as he stood on the side of the road, thumbing for his next ride, 30-year-old Dean pulled over.
Starting point is 00:23:37 The details of what happened next are unclear. But instead of driving Jeffrey to his girlfriend's house, Dean took him to his apartment. Once there, he most likely sexually assaulted Jeffrey, and he didn't stop there. Dean then strangled him to death. Afterward, he hauled Jeffrey's body back into his van, drove about 60 miles and buried him on a beach known as High Island.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Dean's first known attack had quickly become deadly, and once he unleashed his inner killer, there was no stopping it. At the same time, Dean seemed to realize that murdering someone and disposing of their body was hard to do on his own. He decided he needed an accomplice. To make sure he found the right person, he used some of his usual grooming tactics. But this time, Dean wanted to get as much.
Starting point is 00:24:26 as he could out of the relationship. Shortly after killing Jeffrey, Dean approached one of the underage boys he'd always had his eye on, 14-year-old David Brooks. The two had met years earlier, and David had felt an instant connection with Dean. He had a troubled home life. He and his dad fought a lot, and Dean seemed like the supportive male role model David never had. So David was ecstatic when Dean invited him to move in with him. Once they were living together, Dean showed David another side of himself. Dean started paying David to let Dean perform oral sex on him. He convinced David that it was completely normal. And since Dean was the most trusted adult in his life, David didn't question him. We just outlined how Dean was a socially
Starting point is 00:25:16 perceptive but manipulative, exploitative, and calculated individual. And this is precisely why that is dangerous. These actions involve all of those traits, and it's absolutely sexual abuse of a minor. Dean didn't approach David randomly. He identified a vulnerable child from an unstable home who is actively looking for safety and belonging, offered him exactly that, disguised as rescue and care, and then use that to facilitate abuse. Now let's talk about the money. Paying David is something that serves multiple purposes. It reframed this abuse as a trait. transaction rather than a violation, especially in a developing adolescent brain. That was designed to make the abuse feel like something David was participating in willingly rather than something that was
Starting point is 00:26:03 being done to him. It created a financial dependency that made leaving harder, and it also is a way for an abuser to normalize abuse. The detail that Dean was the one that was performing the act is also clinically significant. It was a deliberate strategy to make David feel less like a victim and kept Dean in control of the situation. And I want to be absolutely clear about something. Whether David accepted the money or not is completely irrelevant. A 14-year-old child cannot legally consent to sexual activity with an adult. What David experienced was grooming, exploitation, and abuse. We know that Dean has already killed one victim. So how might sexual assault serve as part of how he's grooming David, as opposed to what he'd groomed him for?
Starting point is 00:26:51 This is a gradual desensitization process. He's starting by testing his boundaries and his limits. What's his tolerance? How far can he push and how far does his trust go right now and how much more work does he need to put in before he can introduce David to what he really needs him for? The abuse also creates complicity. Because of the sexual acts on the payments, Dean has already established leverage and he can use that to his advantage. We have to remember, David is still a child, and this has already begun to normalize transgressions. Dean is teaching him to distrust his own discomfort. David undoubtedly felt confused or violated, even if he did like Dean, because he's developmentally and emotionally far too young to be experiencing anything he's been experiencing, especially from a trusted adult. And Dean is framing those feelings of discomfort as acceptable, which incidentally sort of mirror Dean's own experiences in childhood in his own home. His parents were fighting. He felt discomforted confusion by that. And despite this, his parents kept trying to make things work, even moving Dean around frequently to do so, sending Dean a message
Starting point is 00:28:06 that it was acceptable for them to be fighting. And finally, all of this allows Dean to assess whether or not David will eventually be useful to him in the way that he wants him to be. Well, as you said, David didn't realize that Dean was abusing him, and he had no idea how dangerous Dean really was. But on the evening of December 13th, 1970, he saw it for the first time. That day, Dean noticed two 14-year-old boys walking home from church, Jimmy Glass, and Danny Yates, and he offered them a ride home. Both boys already knew Dean and liked him, so they got into his car willingly, thinking they were about to party together. But when they got back to his apartment, Dean suddenly turned on them.
Starting point is 00:28:52 He forced them to strip naked before tying them to a large wooden board that he'd set up earlier. Then he sexually assaulted them both. It's not clear if Dean knew that David was home at the time, but all of a sudden he walked into the room and saw everything. David turned and bolted, and that's when Dean knew he had to carry out the rest of his plan quickly. While Jimmy and Danny were still restrained, he strangled them both. Then he dragged their bodies back to his van and drove to a boat shed he'd been renting. Dean dug a hole in the dirt floor of the shed and buried both boys there. When he got home, Dean approached David and said he had a confession to make. He claimed he was earning money by producing child pornography,
Starting point is 00:29:38 which was what David had witnessed earlier, and that when they were done, Dean had sent the two boys to California. David seemed convinced. However, Dean knew he could never keep up this lie in the long run. Plus, the whole reason he'd brought David into his orbit was so that he'd have an accomplice. So eventually, Dean told David the truth. When David heard the story, he just accepted it. Maybe he was scared that if he reacted poorly, he'd be next, or maybe he had no one else to take care of him. Either way, it was clear to Dean that David would go along with whatever he wanted him to. Think about where David actually was at this moment. He was a 14-year-old from an unstable home with nowhere else to go. He was financially dependent on his abuser, already sexually exploited, and now a witness to a
Starting point is 00:30:29 murder. Every single one of those factors worked against his ability to simply leave. He was a and Dean had engineered that deliberately. He's been testing him for this. He specifically looked for him for this purpose. And remember how I said earlier that he had been gradually desensitizing him. And by that, I mean, Dean seemed to be exposing David to increasingly disturbing behavior in small doses, so each new violation became slightly easier for David to absorb, rationalize, or accept. Well, he tried that here too. First, perhaps. unintentionally, David caught him in the act of assaulting two boys, and rather than run and find the police, David stayed. He passed that loyalty test. Then he tried a slow introduction again by
Starting point is 00:31:17 giving him a rationale of a story about child pornography. And when David accepted that, without a reaction, Dean seemed to have felt that he could handle something stronger than that. And that was why he confessed with the full truth. It was the final stage of his grooming. Dean knew exactly how David would respond because he had spent months engineering that response and this moment. And underneath all of that was fear because for David's part
Starting point is 00:31:45 and because he was likely feeling trapped and dependent, the safest thing he felt he could do was make himself useful to Dean rather than a liability. Why would Dean have viewed David as someone to groom and control but not kill? What was it about David?
Starting point is 00:32:02 That's a great question. We know that Dean needed an accomplice. You know, we know that. He set out to look for him. So from the beginning, Dean's intention for David was different. He was not looking for another victim at that time. He was looking for someone that he could keep, that he could shape, and that he could use. So for that to work, David had to have qualities that Dean could exploit. He was young, vulnerable, unstable, and dependent. He needed housing, money, attention, and a sense of belonging. And that made him easier to manipulate than someone with stronger family support or more adult protection around him. But at the same time, many of Dean's victims had some version of those vulnerabilities too.
Starting point is 00:32:45 They were adolescents. Their developmental, emotional, physical, and psychological resources were not equal to an adult. So David had to offer Dean something different or more. And the thing that stands out is the connection that David seemed to feel toward Dean. For in the way you described it, he had this instant connection. So maybe David had admired him in some way, idealized him, or felt emotionally attached to him. Whether that was a father figure, a crush, longing for stability, or just feeling chosen by him, Dean could sense that and knew that he could use that attachment to his benefit. And that made David a better candidate for grooming into an accomplice, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Well, with David Brooks firmly under his thumb, Dean decided it was time to include him in his next horrendous crime. On January 30th, 1971, about six weeks after Dean murdered Jimmy Glass and Danny Yates, he and David were driving around Houston together. Eventually, they spotted two boys walking, 13-year-old Donald Waldrop and his 15-year-old brother, Jerry. Dean pulled over and asked the brothers, where they were going. They told him they were on their way to the bowling alley. He offered to give them a ride.
Starting point is 00:34:04 It's not clear if the wall drops knew Dean, but they got into the car anyway, maybe because they saw a boy their own age, which made them feel more comfortable. Unfortunately, the boys had no idea of the horrors they were about to endure. Just like he'd done to his previous victims, Dean drove back to his apartment where he sexually assaulted Donald and Jerry before strangling them to death. death. David watched the entire time, and afterward he helped bury their bodies in the boat shed. As an expression of his gratitude, and maybe as a way to persuade him not to go to the police, Dean bought David a corvette for his 16th birthday, which may have been a big reason why the authorities were unable to figure out what happened to the missing boys.
Starting point is 00:34:52 By this point, all the victim's loved ones had reported them missing, but the police shrugged off each case. They told the boys' parents that their kids had probably just run away to join the hippie movement. Because of the police response or lack of response, Dean was free to keep preying on boys and young men. And pretty soon, someone knew would enter the fold, causing Dean to show a new layer to his depravity. By January of 1971, 31-year-old Dean Coral had killed five boys in the Houston area, all of whom were between the ages of 13 and 18. After killing his first three victims, Dean carried out his crimes with the help of an accomplice,
Starting point is 00:35:43 16-year-old David Brooks, who lived with him. One day, David invited over his friend, 15-year-old Elmer Wayne Henley, who went by Wayne to hang out. Wayne was a lot different from David. David was quiet and introspective, while Wayne was loud, brash, and sometimes violent. Despite this, the two were close. But that didn't stop David from luring Wayne to Dean's apartment to become his next victim.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Oblivious to the danger he was in, Wayne jumped at the invitation. He not only viewed Dean as a cool older guy, but he'd do anything to get out of his house and away from his dad, who he had a rocky relationship with. Wayne had the same kinds of home troubles that made David susceptible to Dean's grooming, and as they sat around talking, Dean realized that Wayne could be just as useful to him. Wayne and Dean immediately hit it off. Wayne was under the impression that Dean genuinely enjoyed talking to him, but in reality, Dean's ears had perked up when Wayne started describing all the friends he had and where they liked to hang out.
Starting point is 00:36:48 As he spoke, Dean realized Wayne could provide a direct line to an endless supply of victims. But he knew he couldn't outright ask Wayne to help him kidnap and murder helpless boys. First, he'd have to get him warmed up to the idea. So we talked about why he likely chose David. David was a vulnerable child from an unstable home who was actively looking for stability and who had already had some kind of attachment or emotional connection to Dean.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And that combination, like you said, made him susceptible to grooming, exploiting, and creating a dependent and loyal accomplice that he could control. Wayne is also a vulnerable child coming from an unstable home who also seemed to idealize Dean. He views him as a cool, older guy rather than an adult that he has nothing in common with or should not be hanging around. He was also eager to be around him. Wayne was loud, brash, and sometimes violent, which could be useful if Dean ever needed someone to physically restrain a victim or participate more. But more importantly, he could provide access to victims. Both of them are susceptible to being controlled and both of them are useful for Dean.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Therefore, both are useful and worthy of keeping around. I will never understand pedophilia. Another thing I don't understand is what is psychologically satisfying to Dean about grooming these boys to be his accomplices? Why does he do this? His accomplices become extensions of his power. They helped him lure victims and lower their defenses or suspicions. He was getting gratification in multiple places.
Starting point is 00:38:24 With the luring, the assault, the killing of these boys, and in building a system where he could keep accessing, controlling, and destroying innocent boys while making other boys help him do it. Well, once Dean realized how useful Wayne could be, he got to work on him. He told Wayne that he earned money by trafficking underage boys to older male clients in California, and he offered Wayne money to help him recruit people. He said he'd pay him $200 for every boy he brought in, which would be over $1,600 in today's money. At first, Wayne wasn't sure if he wanted to do it, but he really wanted Dean to like him, so he told him he'd think about it. Dean was fine with that, and in the meantime, he kept relying on David's help. On March 9, 1971, Dean and David were out driving and
Starting point is 00:39:18 spotted one of David's friends, 15-year-old Randy Harvey. Dean pulled over and invited Randy to hang out with them. Randy was on his way to work, but hanging out with Dean sounded way more fun, so he tossed his bicycle into the back of the truck and hopped in. But once the group got back to Dean's apartment, David left and Dean proceeded to rape and torture Randy. Finally, Dean pulled out a gun and shot his victim in the head. Afterward, Dean and David buried Randy's body in the boat shed. And Dean's rampage continued from there. Two and a half months later on Memorial Day weekend, 1971, Dean spotted 14-year-old David Hillaegeist walking to the neighborhood pool with his friend, 16-year-old Malley Winkle.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Both boys had known Dean for years, so Dean had no trouble convincing both of them to forget the pool and come to a party at his place instead. Once he got the boys to his apartment, he raped and strangled them both. then buried their bodies in the shed. Interestingly, Dean didn't utilize an accomplice this time. His need to kill was simply so strong, he seemed to act on impulse. Meanwhile, across town, David Hillegeist's mother, Dorothy, was wondering where he was.
Starting point is 00:40:40 She spoke to her other son, Gregory, who'd been planning to meet David at the pool. Gregory told his mom that David never showed up. Dorothy was surprised, but not alarmed. she figured David probably just made other plans at the last minute. Back then, it was common for kids to walk to the pool, ride bikes, stop at a friend's house, change plans, or stay out for hours without constant check-ins because there were no cell phones. There's no location sharing or no way for a parent to know exactly where a teenager was at every given moment. So Dorothy thinking that David just changed his plans was actually a common rationalization for something like that,
Starting point is 00:41:20 because that was commonly the case back then. That's not a neglectful or indifferent reaction. It was just the norms of the era. But if he doesn't show up by the time the street lamps come on or by the next morning, that's when Dorothy will worry. But it also shows how offenders like Dean could exploit those assumptions. He knew when these boys would be out with their friends. Then in the late 1970s and early 1980s,
Starting point is 00:41:46 the stranger danger panic really takes over, and I always push back on that framing because this case shows the problem with it. It's rarely only the stranger that children need to fear. That doesn't mean we should not teach children safety against strangers, though. We should, but Dean was not a stranger. He was their neighbor. He was familiar with them. He had been grooming the neighborhood boys for a long time.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And that familiarity lowered their defenses. Statistically, children are more likely to be abused or exploited by someone they know than by a random stranger. So if we teach safety as only avoid strangers or stranger danger, we miss the more uncomfortable truth, which is danger often comes from the people that we know. Despite her trusting parenting style of the time, it didn't take long for Dorothy Hilleguice to realize something was wrong. She reported David missing the next morning. But just like with the boys who went missing before, the Houston police told her, as well as Malley Winkle's parents, that the boys had probably run away, and they refused to search for them, which meant Dean
Starting point is 00:42:55 continued to kill freely. The details of what he did during this time are unclear, but most likely Dean killed a few more victims on his own, and by the spring of 1972, he finally had Wayne's help. Wayne decided he could use the money that Dean had offered him, so one afternoon they hopped into Dean's car and went looking for boys. Wayne still thought they were in the business. of sex trafficking. He had no idea what he was actually about to partake in. At some point, Dean spotted a teenage boy standing on the sidewalk. He pulled over and asked if he wanted to smoke pot with them. The boy said yes, and Dean drove him back to his apartment. Once there, he told Wayne to leave. Then, he sexually assaulted and killed his 10th known victim. Afterward,
Starting point is 00:43:44 Dean told Wayne the truth of what he'd done. He wanted to test Wayne's reaction, and just Just like David Brooks, Wayne seemed unshaken. If anything, it only pulled him closer to Dean. Being part of his criminal endeavors made Wayne feel important and powerful. Vulnerable individuals who are seeking belonging, stability, or acceptance can be especially responsive to someone who makes them feel seen or chosen. And Wayne seems to have been showing us that this was something that he desperately needed. He wanted Dean's approval. He wanted to be liked by him, and he wanted to matter.
Starting point is 00:44:22 So when Dean shared this enormous secret, Wayne likely experienced this as proof that he was special to him. Dean was telling him something that most people were not allowed to know or would never even confess. And that is part of how grooming works. The offender can turn secrecy into some kind of bond. The secret becomes a test of loyalty. If you keep it, then you belong. If you react badly, you risk rejection, humiliation, or wrong. worse. So Wayne may have felt that being entrusted with Dean's secret meant he had finally been
Starting point is 00:44:54 fully accepted and chosen. And that can be powerful for someone who's desperate for that. But instead of focusing on the actual harm that Dean is doing, Wayne is focusing on what the secret means about his relationship with him. That does not make Wayne innocent of his choices, but it helps explain the psychology of it. Do you think it's possible that Wayne's survival instincts kicked in? and that's why he went along with what Dean was saying so that he wouldn't be the next victim? I think it's certainly possible. He may have understood the consequences would be
Starting point is 00:45:28 if he rejected him or reacted differently in that moment, much like in David's case. So going along may have felt safer than resisting. If he stayed useful, loyal, and quiet, maybe he would not become the next victim. Belonging and self-preservation can exist at the same time. Well, shortly after Wayne learned the truth, he started helping Dean even more directly. On April 20th, 1972, Wayne brought his friend, 17-year-old Mark Scott, to Dean's apartment.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Mark had been to parties there before, so it was nothing out of the ordinary for him. But that day, Mark was completely blindsided when Dean and Wayne grabbed him and forced him into the bedroom. They tried to tie Mark's hands, but what they didn't know was that Mark was that Mark was that Mark was armed. He managed to grab his knife and nicked Dean with it. As Wayne watched Mark and Dean's struggle, something came over him. Wayne grabbed a pellet gun and he and Dean took turns shooting Mark with it. Once Mark was subdued, Dean sexually assaulted him. But instead of killing Mark himself, Dean turned to Wayne and told him to do it. Wayne hesitated. He and Mark had been friends for a long time. He wasn't sure he could go through with it.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Then Mark reportedly begged Wayne to shoot him and get it over with. And that's when Dean decided he wanted Mark to suffer more. He handed Wayne a rope and told him to strangle his friend. Mark tried, but he quickly realized how difficult it was. So he ran out of the room, grabbed his pistol, then returned and shot Mark twice. Once Mark was dead, Dean looked at Wayne. He could see how he. how shaken he was, but Dean also thought he noticed something else. He believed Wayne enjoyed
Starting point is 00:47:19 killing as much as he did, and to him, that meant he now had a loyal and enthusiastic henchman. By this point, Dean had killed at least 15 boys over the course of about two years. With Wayne's help, he planned to kill many more. But what Dean didn't realize was that he was wrong about Wayne. His newest accomplice didn't enjoy killing at all. In fact, Wayne felt that if anyone was going to put an end to Dean's rampage, it would be him. Thanks so much for listening. Come back next time for the conclusion of our deep dive on Dean Coral. Serial Killers and Murderous Minds is a Crime House original powered by Pave Studios. Here at Crime House, we want to thank each and every one of you for your support. If you like what you heard today, reach
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