Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin - How Margin Borrowing Can Supercharge or Destroy Your Investments

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

With margin borrowing, you can give your investments a boost— but if you're not careful, you could also lose more than you gain. Nicole explains the concept, and whether it's a money move you should... make. $ Take control of your finances by using a Chime checking account with features like no maintenance fees, fee-free overdraft up to $200, or getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit. Visit: http://chime.com/MNN  $ Looking for the perfect holiday gift for your coworkers, friends, and everyone in between? Choose Nicole’s favorite wine, Justin. Get 20 percent off your order for a limited time with the code “MONEY20” at http://justinwine.com/  $ Ready to find a financial advisor that’s right for your financial goals? Get matched with a trusted, vetted financial advisor at: http://moneypickle.com/MNN  All investment strategies involve risk of loss. The information shared in this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Listeners should do their own research and consult a financial advisor before making any investment decisions. See terms for additional details: https://moneynewsnetwork.com/terms/ 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One of the most stressful periods of my life was when I was in credit card debt. I got to a point where I just knew that I had to get it under control for my financial future and also for my mental health. We've all hit a point where we've realized it was time to make some serious money moves. So take control of your finances by using a Chime checking account with features like no maintenance fees, fee-free overdraft up to $200, or getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit. Learn more at Chime.com slash MNN. When you check out Chime, you'll see that you can overdraft up to $200 with no fees. If you're an OG listener, you know about my infamous $35 overdraft fee that
Starting point is 00:00:37 I got from buying a $7 latte and how I am still very fired up about it. If I had Chime back then, that wouldn't even be a story. Make your fall finances a little greener by working toward your financial goals with Chime. Open your account in just two minutes at Chime.com slash MNN. That's Chime.com slash MNN. Chime. Feels like progress. Banking services and debit card provided by the Bancorp Bank N.A. or Stride Bank N.A. Members FDIC. SpotMe eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Boosts are available to eligible Chime members enrolled in SpotMe and are subject to monthly limits. Terms and conditions apply. Go to Chime.com slash disclosures for details.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I love hosting on Airbnb. It's a great way to bring in some extra cash, but I totally get it that it might sound overwhelming to start or even too complicated if, say, you want to put your summer home in Maine on Airbnb, but you live full time in San Francisco and you can't go to Maine every time you need to change sheets for your guests or something like that. If thoughts like these have been holding you back, I have great news for you. Airbnb has launched a co-host network, which is a network of high quality local co-hosts with Airbnb experience that can take care of your home and your guests. Co-hosts can do what you don't have time for, like managing your
Starting point is 00:01:50 reservations, messaging your guests, giving support at the property, or even create your listing for you. I always want to line up a reservation for my house when I'm traveling for work, but sometimes I just don't get around to it because getting ready to travel always feels like a scramble, so I don't end up making time to make my house look guest-friendly. I guess that's the best way to put it. But I'm matching with a co-host so I can still make that extra cash while also making it easy on myself. Find a co-host at Airbnb.com slash host. I'm Nicole Lappin, the only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand. It's time for some money rehab. Well, if you've been on your money rehab game for a while now, you know that making smart investments can grow your money year over year. And you don't need a lot of money to start
Starting point is 00:02:38 investing. But because whatever you invest compounds, the more money you invest, the better. That's where margin borrowing comes in. Margin borrowing is a money move that can give your brokerage account a financial boost, but it's not as picture perfect as it seems. So what exactly is margin borrowing to begin with? You can think of it as your brokerage's way of saying, hey, you've got some amazing investment ideas. I can lend you some cash to make those happen. At a top level, you're borrowing money to buy stocks and putting the stocks that you already own up as collateral. So if you got your eye on 10k worth of stock, but you only have five grand on hand, margin lets you borrow the rest to make the full
Starting point is 00:03:15 purchase. It's like getting a bigger shovel to scoop up more of the market. It sounds a little weird to put your investments up as collateral, but it's no different than using your house as collateral for a loan or paying a security deposit on a hotel reservation. You're offering an asset as a guarantee to a lender. In the context of margin borrowing, it means that you're borrowing money from the brokerage and using your existing stocks or other eligible securities, depending on what you're investing in, as collateral. So your brokerage kind of becomes like the guy behind the counter at the pawn shop. But instead of your jewelry, you're using your stock holdings to secure a loan. You tell the broker, hold on to these shares for me. I promise to repay you what I borrow. But if I can't,
Starting point is 00:03:53 these shares are all yours to sell to recover your money. You're essentially agreeing to let the broker use your current investments as a safety net. And by doing that, you're reassuring the brokerage that it won't be left in a lurch if things go south. This is a new way to think about your brokerage that is totally legit. Your brokerage isn't just the home of your investments. Your brokerage can also lend you money. Just like your bank might lend you money to buy a house, your brokerage lends you money to buy securities. This service allows you to amplify your purchasing power in the stock market. Of course, this kind of lending isn't a free-for-all. You enter into a margin agreement when you set up a margin account. This agreement outlines what you can do, the interest rate on your borrowed funds,
Starting point is 00:04:34 and the brokerage's terms for potentially selling your securities collateral if you can't meet a margin call. A margin call happens if the value of your collateral, the securities that you bought plus any others in your margin account, drops below a certain point, the brokerage will ask you to deposit more money or to sell some of your securities to balance out what you owe. This is the brokerage's way of ensuring that the loan remains secured. More mathiness in just a sec. But first, I should mention your brokerage also isn't just going to give you money for funsies. It's a loan, which pretty much always means interest payments. The interest rate on margin borrowing for investments can vary depending on a whole mess of factors like which brokerage firm you use, the amount you want to borrow, the market conditions.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Generally, the interest rates on margin loans are calculated based on a broker's base rate plus a percentage that can increase as the amount of borrowed money goes up that all translates to rates landing between below two percent to over nine percent for larger brokerages you might see lower rates due to the ability to lend at more competitive terms it is really important though for you to check specific rates offered by your brokerage as these often change based on shifts in the broader financial landscape like changes to the federal reserve's interest rates which by the way just kept steady this week hey yo so playing on margin comes with some perks it supercharges your buying
Starting point is 00:05:55 power and allows you to snatch up more shares than cash alone could grab and that gives you a bigger shot at bigger returns by doing all that you're maximizing your investment opportunities. If you see a stock or a fund that you think is a great opportunity but you're short on cash, margin has your back. And that enables you to act quickly and to snag those shares before the opportunity disappears. And you get ultimate flexibility with margin. You don't need to wait for the funds to clear like you would depositing cash from a bank. And you don't need to sell assets to wait for that transaction to post. You can get up and running pretty quickly with margin. And now that we've covered that base, let's talk about the risks because they are significant. Just like margin can amplify gains, it can also magnify losses too. A dip in
Starting point is 00:06:41 stock prices might just be, oh, whatever, in regular scenarios. We know that, right? The stock market goes up, the stock market goes down. That's kind of its thing. But a dip in stock prices when you're borrowing money, that's not a, oh, whatever. That's more of a, oh, you know what. And then there's the dreaded margin call I alluded to earlier. This is definitely the worst case scenario of margin borrowing. If your investments dip below a certain value, your brokerage will call your debt asking you to add more cash or securities into your account pronto. If you can't meet a margin call, they might just sell your stocks to cover it, potentially causing you to cash out at the worst time.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And brokerages typically have a hard and fast rule around how low your investments need to dip before they can issue a margin call. Typically, they require 30% for what's called a maintenance requirement. But this concept is a little easier to follow with a number trail. So let's use your 10K investment again as an example. Say your brokerage requires that 30% maintenance requirement. You put in 5K plus another 5K from your brokerage as a margin loan. So your brokerage has 50% equity in that investment, right? Half of your investment is theirs until you pay it back. If whatever you invested in drops and your 10K is now worth only
Starting point is 00:07:57 6K, the investor equity has also dropped to 1K or the 6K value minus the 5K loan or just 17% of your total investment. But your brokerage has that hard and fast rule that they need to have at least 30% equity in your investment. So this drop would trigger a margin call. And when that happens, your brokerage is going to need you to give them 30% of that new 6K value, which is $1,800. You do have some time to come up with this money, but it's not a lot of time. It's around two to five days. And in order to come up with that money, you could either deposit $1,800 into the account, or you could sell other investments in order to put money into the account, or you could deposit more marginable securities, which is a little bit more complicated.
Starting point is 00:08:40 But the big picture here is you're going to have to come up with the cash at a time when your investments are down. And if you needed to borrow on margin anyway, you probably don't have a lot of liquid cash. So this whole story adds up to being a pretty ugly picture at this point. To play it safe on the margin tightrope, you need to know your limits. Just because you can borrow a lot doesn't mean you should. Assess your own financial landscape and decide how much risk you can comfortably handle. And while I prefer less risky strategies where you don't need to keep your eyes glued on your brokerage account, with margin borrowing, you do need to keep a close eye on your investments and your account balance. Setting alerts for significant market moves can help you react
Starting point is 00:09:17 quickly and wisely. For today's tip, you can take straight to the bank. If you do want to try a margin loan, to get the best terms possible, you should compare margin rates at different loan amounts because the rates can be tiered based on the margin balance. But always, always remember that while borrowing on margin can amplify those gains, they can also magnify those losses. One of the most stressful periods of my life was when I was in credit card debt. I got to a point where I just knew that I had to get it under control for my financial future and also for my mental health. We've all hit a point where we've realized it was time to make some serious money moves. So take control of your finances by using a Chime checking account with features like no maintenance fees, fee-free overdraft up to $200,
Starting point is 00:10:00 or getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit. Learn more at Chime.com slash MNN. When you check out Chime, you'll see that you can overdraft up to $200 with no fees. If you're an OG listener, you know about my infamous $35 overdraft fee that I got from buying a $7 latte and how I am still very fired up about it. If I had Chime back then, that wouldn't even be a story. Make your fall finances a little greener by working toward your financial goals with Chime back then, that wouldn't even be a story. Make your fall finances a little greener by working toward your financial goals with Chime. Open your account in just two minutes at Chime.com slash MNN. That's Chime.com slash MNN. Chime feels like progress. Banking services and debit card provided by the Bancorp Bank N.A. or Stride Bank N.A. Members FDIC. SpotMe eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Boosts are available
Starting point is 00:10:46 to eligible Chime members enrolled in SpotMe and are subject to monthly limits. Terms and conditions apply. Go to Chime.com slash disclosures for details. I love hosting on Airbnb. It's a great way to bring in some extra cash, but I totally get it that it might sound overwhelming to start, or even too complicated if, say, you want to put your summer home in Maine on Airbnb, but you live full time in San Francisco and you can't go to Maine every time you need to change sheets for your guests or something like that. If thoughts like these have been holding you back, I have great news for you. Airbnb has launched a co-host network, which is a network of high quality local co-hosts
Starting point is 00:11:21 with Airbnb experience that can take care of your home and your guests. Co-hosts can do what you don't have time for, like managing your reservations, messaging your guests, giving support at the property, or even create your listing for you. I always want to line up a reservation for my house when I'm traveling for work, but sometimes I just don't get around to it because getting ready to travel always feels like a scramble, so I don't end up making time to make my house look guest-friendly. I guess that's the best way to put it. But I'm matching with a co-host so I can still make that extra cash while also making it easy on myself.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Find a co-host at Airbnb.com slash host. Money Rehab is a production of Money News Network. I'm your host, Nicole Lappin. Money Rehab's executive producer is Morgan Levoy. Our researcher is Emily Holmes. Do you need some money rehab? And let's be honest, we all do. So email us your money questions, moneyrehabatmoneynewsnetwork.com to potentially have your questions answered on the show or even have a one-on-one intervention with me. And follow
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