Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin - How to Have $1 Million By The Time You Retire
Episode Date: September 11, 2025Today, Nicole cracks the code to the million-dollar question. Literally. How much do you need to invest—and when—to retire with $1 million in the bank? This podcast is for informational purposes ...only and does not constitute financial, investment, or legal advice. Always do your own research and consult a licensed financial advisor before making any financial decisions or investments. All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for US-listed, registered securities, options and bonds in a self-directed account are offered by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA & SIPC. Public Investing offers a High-Yield Cash Account where funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance; Public Investing is not a bank. Cryptocurrency trading services are offered by Bakkt Crypto Solutions, LLC (NMLS ID 1890144), which is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the NYSDFS. Cryptocurrency is highly speculative, involves a high degree of risk, and has the potential for loss of the entire amount of an investment. Cryptocurrency holdings are not protected by the FDIC or SIPC. *APY as of 6/30/25, offered by Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Rate subject to change. See terms of IRA Match Program here: public.com/disclosures/ira-match.
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I'm Nicole Lapin, the only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand. It's
time for some money rehab.
Today we're going to crack the code on the million dollar question, literally.
How much do you need to invest and when to retire with a million bucks in the bank?
This is one of the top questions I get asked and one of the most commonly searched questions on Google and probably chat GPT.
So today we're going to run the numbers, whether you're 20 or you're 60.
I'm going to show you exactly how much you need to invest each month to retire at 67 with a million dollars in the bank.
And this isn't based on magic, but on compound interest, which honestly is pretty magical.
We're assuming that you're investing in an ETF that mimics the stock market like VOO or SPY and assuming a 7% average annual return, which is actually a little conservative when you look at the long-term performance of the market, but it is a pretty good bet with inflation.
Before we break this down by age, you're going to notice something very quickly.
The earlier you start, the less aggressive you have to be.
Starting early is a financial superpower because of the great, beautiful, glorious, all the adjectives,
force of compound interest. Starting early as a financial superpower because of the great, beautiful
force of compound interest. Compound interest is what happens when your money earns money, and then
that money earns money, and then that money earns even more money. It's the snowball effect.
When it comes to debt, compound interest sucks. It is so stressful because what you owe snowballs.
But when it comes to investing, compound interest is amazing because what you earn snowballs. So simply put
the earlier you start, the more time your money has to grow. Even if you invest less,
you can end up with more just by giving your money more runway to compound. So you're going to
see just how dramatically your minimum investment is going to have to increase the later you start.
But don't worry, I'm not going to just hit you with scary numbers. I'm also going to give
you actionable ways to make up for last time at any age. Okay, let's start with the dream scenario.
You are 20 years old and you are thinking ahead. First of all, bravo. Not everyone. Myself
included can start that early. To have a million bucks by 67, you have to invest 165 bucks a month
into the stock market. That's it, $165 a month every month from age 20 to 67 at a 7% annual
rate of return, and you will get to that seven-figure goal. This works because you have 47 years
of compound interest on your side. Even though your total contributions over those 47 years
only adds up to around $93,000. That interest is doing the heavy lifting and adding more than
$900,000 to your final balance. That math actually blows my mind. So I'm going to say it again.
You have to only put $93,000 over the course of 47 years aside in order to end up with a million
dollars. It is insane. You got to love it. So here's what I would do at 20. Start with a Roth IRA retirement account.
It is tax-free growth and withdrawal in retirement, so win-win.
Then I would set up automatic contributions.
Even if you can't do the 165 monthly, decide on what amount you can commit to and set it and forget it.
Now, let's say you don't start in your 20s.
Let's say you start when you turn 30, flirty, and thriving.
Don't panic.
You are 30, you have still got plenty of time.
To reach a million bucks by 67, you need to contribute $340 monthly.
see the jump there? Starting 10 years later means you now have to invest more than double the
monthly amount because compound interest has less time to do its thing. So if I was getting
started at 30, here's what I would do. Max out the 401k match for sure. This is free money from
your employer. Don't leave that on the table. If you're not already, I'd start using my 3E rule
for a spending plan, which is putting 70% of what you make toward essentials, 15% toward
extras and 15% towards your endgame, like retirement, savings, investing. I'd also put any raises
or found money, like tax refunds or inheritances, for example, into your investment account.
Lastly, I'd cut high interest rate debt and redirect those payments into your investments
and consider bumping up some side income. The average millionaire has seven streams of income,
so if you only have one, I'd start thinking about what you could do to diversify that.
A part-time freelance gig or consulting gig can get you to that 300.
$440 a month target pretty easily.
Okay, say you don't do that either.
Say you don't get started until 40.
At 40, we're getting closer to that retirement age and the pressure starts to build.
But don't beat yourself up if you're getting a late start.
Let's just get to work.
Here's what it takes, a $820 a month contribution.
We're now in the serious hustle territory, I'll be honest, but it's still very doable.
If I needed to ramp up investing, I'd first revisit my spending plan.
You may be earning more, but you are spending more too.
That is lifestyle creep, and it can steal your investing dollars.
Then I wouldn't necessarily downsize my lifestyle, but I'd right-size it.
It only takes $27 a day to add up to $820 a month.
It is pretty easy to lose track of $27 here and there,
so I would plug any places where my budget is starting to feel a little leaky.
Lastly, automate increases.
Every time you get a raise, auto-increase your investment contribution,
by 1 to 2%. Now, say you don't do that and you are starting at 50 and you're planning on retiring
in 17 years. That's not nothing, but the runway is shorter and the stakes are higher. So we're
going to have to get serious. The monthly contribution that you'll need is 1,920 bucks. I know.
It is a big number and a big jump from the numbers we've talked about so far. But hey,
you're also probably earning more than you did in your 20s and 30s. It is time to go all in.
What I would do to hit this number is to take advantage of catch-up contributions.
If you're 50 or older, the maximum amount you can contribute to your IRA or your 401k goes up.
In 2025, for example, the 401k limit is 23 grand, plus an additional 7,500 bucks if you're 50 plus.
I'd also look for places where there's free money, meaning ways to make money from stuff you already own,
or things that you already do. For example, you could rent out a room, a garage, or even a parking space.
that extra thousand dollars a month could go straight to your investments. If the pressure is feeling
like too much, you can always plan on doing a retirement soft launch at 67 where you go down to a
part-time job so you can have more time to earn more money and save for that sweet, sweet,
hard launch retirement. So say you have done none of this, that you're 60 years old and you're
just starting your money rehab journey. You're 60 and you want to retire at 67 with a million
and you're starting with nothing. I'll be honest, this is a tall order. Your monthly contributions
will need to be $5,700. I know, it is steep. You'd need to invest more than the average
monthly rent in many U.S. cities. But is it impossible? Not necessarily. Here's what I would
do. Max out every retirement account you can, 401k, traditional, or Roth IRA, even HSAs if you
qualify. Then I'd take a look at unused assets like extra cars, storage units, old collectibles,
and I'd get them appraised and think about selling.
Don't think of this as a fire sale because it is definitely not.
This is just you turning your clutter into capital.
Personally, I'd also decide to delay retirement to 70.
I know this isn't right for everyone,
but retiring at 70 would give you three more years of compounding
and higher social security benefits.
All right, let's zoom on that for a sec.
If these numbers are feeling intimidating,
especially in your 40s, 50s and 60s,
know that you have more options than just investing more.
Delaying retirement by even a few years can massively improve your financial picture by giving you more time for compound growth, fewer years your savings need to support you, and like I just alluded to, potentially bigger social security checks.
Every year you delay retirement past full retirement age, currently 67, your social security benefit increases by 8% until age 70.
So even if you can't hit that $5,700 a month number at 60, retiring at 70 instead of 67 might mean you only need to invest.
$3,700 a month instead. So now that I've successfully given you the bright side, I'm
going to tell you something that might be a little intimidating. You might want more than a
million dollars when you retire. I say that because as crazy as it sounds, a million bucks
isn't what it used to be. It's not yachts and mega mansions anymore. It's more like
health care, housing, and likely some independence. But maybe that's perfect for you. I can't
tell you what you need for retirement exactly because I don't know exactly what your goals are.
I don't know exactly what you picture when you think about shutting that laptop for good,
deleting your LinkedIn, and sailing off into the retirement sunset.
So what I would definitely do is a little math to determine how much you think you will need
in retirement and then use a compound calculator to see how much money you need to invest monthly
if you start today. So I know today I talked about a lot of numbers,
but the biggest thing I want you to take away from this episode isn't your number.
It's the value of starting today. Your money goes further the earlier you start.
So the question really isn't why wait?
It's, can you afford to wait?
For today's tip, you can take straight to the bank.
At the beginning of this episode, I mentioned that these numbers were based on investing in stocks
that mimic the overall market.
But as you get closer to retirement, you're definitely going to want to shift your investing
priorities to more conservative assets like bonds.
One thing you can do to automate that prioritization is to invest in target date funds.
These types of funds are specifically designed to simplify retirement investment.
by automatically adjusting the asset mix, typically shifting from higher risk growth-oriented
investments like stocks to more conservative options like bonds as the target retirement year approaches.
It's a really nice option if you want to set it and forget it.
These funds offer built-in diversification and rebalancing, which makes them a great option
for hands-off investors.
But the downside is that not all target date funds are created equal.
Expense ratios, asset allocation strategies, and glide paths, or the pace at which the funds
shifts that risk can vary widely. That means some funds might be too aggressive or too conservative
for your actual risk tolerance or retirement goals. So while they're very convenient, they still
require some research. Money rehab is a production of Money News Network. I'm your host, Nicole
Lapin. Money Rehab's executive producer is Morgan LaVoy. Our researcher is Emily Holmes. Do you need
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