I Put My Toddler on Payroll. Here's Why.
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03:45And if you're not a parent, please send this to a loved one who has kids or just save it foryourself later if you ever decide to do the parent thing yourself.I mean on most days, most days, I 10 out of 10 recommend it.The reason we're talking about this today is because I got a DM from a listener.I'm going to read it to you right now.Dear Nicole, my son is the same age as your daughter, I think.He's two.And daughter is a little bit younger, but so close, so cute.
04:08I just want to make sure that he has more money than I did growing up.What are you doing for your daughter that I can do for him?Thank you.Love the pod, Lauren.Lauren, thank you so much.I love you.I love this question.I also have some questions.
04:22for you and anyone else who has toddlers right now.Like, first of all, where are they going?My daughter is constantly making a run for it.Is this normal?Where is she trying to go?Does she know something?I don't.I have many, many questions.
04:35And she also literally eats everything.I remember when I had a puppy and she went through this stage and now my human puppy is doingthe very same thing.I had a guest here in the studio the other day and the guest wanted to meet my daughter.And so she came in and instead of being snoddy and cute and all that stuff with the guest,She waddled right up to her, licked her waterglass, and then licked my waterglass.Is your toddler doing this?Are the kids all right?
04:59Call me back.Let me know.So back to your question.I love it.It feels so, so familiar.I have been talking to one of my best friends about this.One of the most special parts about being a parent that I wasn't expecting is becoming the parent that I wish I had.Not trying to make myself cry on my own podcast, but really it is a cool thing.
05:19It is a very special thing.And whether or not you had an awesome relationship with your parent or parents or not,I think very few of our parents knew to open a custodial Roth IRA for us when we were in diapers.But we money rehabbers are weird like that.So let me break down the specific steps that I have taken to make sure that my daughter is rich.I opened three accounts for her, a 529 account, a custodial Roth IRA, and a custodial brokerage account.I talked about this in another episode, so I'm just going to link that in the show notes.so that I don't talk to you forever about these accounts because I definitely, definitely could.
05:56Someone truly has to stop me. But I will give you a few updates on what I've been doing since thatepisode aired. So it was just Mother's Day and some of my girlfriends very kindly asked if theycould send flowers or a gift for me, which was very, very sweet. One thing that I'm doingthat might feel a little bit awkward, but I fully believe in it, I'm sharing the you gift linkfor her 529 with my friends and family for all holidays. Now, most 529,plans have a feature that lets people contribute directly to the account as a gift. Do I get some sideeyes? Yeah. Does it feel a little intense for Mother's Day or Tudder's birthday? Maybe. Do I care?Not even a little bit. And here's another update. I have to give you a quicky background first.
06:37I was a public school kid. My husband was a public school kid. We are very pro public school.But there are some very, very cool private schools opening in our area. So I am the comingprivate school curious, shall we say. And if we do decide to pay for private school,we are going to aim to use tax-free money. Now, Lauren, you might be interested in this as well.So here's how you would do it. If you own a business, you might be able to hire your kid.By the way, this is how a custodial Roth IRA can work. So if you own a business, your kid couldmodel for your social media. That's pretty much the only thing that little little kids can do.Once they get older, you can really put them to work. They can clean your desk. They can
07:20trade your paperwork, organize your folders, and then you can pay them a reasonable wage for real work.The reasonable part is important. You can't just pay them a million dollars for organizing paper clips.What I'm doing is I'm paying my daughter up to the standard deduction. In 26, that's $16,100 for single filers and $32,200 for married couples filing jointly.I'm guessing your kid is also not married, and so we're probably talking about the 16 grand maximum.them. I'll say it one more time. The work has to be legitimate. The pay has to be reasonable.I had tax strategist superstar Carlton Dennis on the pod and this is what he had to say about it.What should people keep in mind when they're putting their kids on payroll? You have to keep in mindreasonable compensation. I know we all want to max out 16,100, 16,100. That's the new standard
08:05deduction. What that means is, is that you can pay children up to 16,100 without them needingto file a federal tax return. Depending on your state, you may still have to file a state tax returnbecause states have different standard deductions. But let's just stick with federal first.right now. The big thing is that when you're employing children, they have to be doingreasonable work and making reasonable compensation. A lot of taxpayers understand that they canmake their children child models, but are they actually child models? Are you actually taking photos?Are you just keeping some photos inside of your iPhone? You need to be intentional about it. It needsto be on the calendar. You need to create a contract with them. You need to have a bona fide intent of what
08:40they're doing and you need to transfer the money to them. The smart thing to do is also to take it a stepfurther and to look at a Roth IRA. You can set up a custodial Roth IRA for your children,tuck away another $7,000 for them. And that money is growing tax-free and a tax-advantaged nature.And for many taxpayers who start this process very early, I believe at the age of five, you can put in7,000. And by the time your child is 60 years old, without making one additional contribution,there should be nearly about a million to a million one inside of that account. So that's a verypowerful wealth-building tool for an entrepreneur that wishes to get their children involved.I think it's 7,500.
09:16Oh, 7,500.Yes, for the Roth IRA, 7500.And so is that what you did with your daughter?Yeah, so we're placing my daughter on payroll.We didn't give her the full 16,100.We gave her just enough to where we can make the full contribution into the Roth IRA.And that was intentional.One, I don't believe there are too many, you know, two-year-olds making 16,000 in the year.
09:36I can't spot too many of them online.But that being said, because of the amount of involvement that my daughter did have as a childmodel supporting us on social media.We decided to make that contribution to her Roth IRA after we made the payment to her.And you alluded to how powerful the Roth can be because the tax treatment, when you take thatmoney out, it comes out tax free.A lot of people don't realize that when they take their traditional IRA or their 401k out,you have to pay taxes.
10:03And the reason why I'm always going to advocate for the Roth, especially right now, is becauseone, we're in the lowest tax period that we've ever been in, at least in the last 50 years.This is the lowest tax rates that we've ever had.And two, when I ask people, do you think taxes are going to go up in the future?Most people will tell me, yes.I mean, nine and ten people tell me, you know, I feel like taxes are eventually going to go up.So if you think taxes only have one direction, which is up, does it make financial sense to just put everything into a traditional or a traditional 401k knowing that you have no idea of where those tax rates are going to be when you can make the sacrifice right now, go Roth 401k or Roth IRA, pay the tax to know and have that peace of mind that when you draw it out.layer, it's 100% tax-free. So I pay my daughter below the standard deduction. She doesn't owe
10:48federal income tax on that money and my business gets a tax deduction for her wages. And here's whereI'm closing the loop. The money is now in my daughter's name where it can be used for her expenseslike private school tuition. Instead of paying tuition with money that was taxed at your higher taxincome bracket, you're potentially shifting income into a lower tax environment legally. This is differentfrom 529 plan contributions, 529 contributions could be used potentially in some states to pay forprivate school, but 529 contributions are made after tax and they're not tax deductible. Now, of course,there is an obligatory caveat. Payroll taxes can differ depending on your specific business structureand your kids' age. So this is absolutely something that you want to run by a financial planner.
11:36First, if you need one, you can reach out to our firm Private Wealth Collective. The link is in the showdotes.So beyond these accounts, here's something else that my husband and I did.We took out a life insurance policy.Becoming a parent is one way of forcing you to really confront your own mortality in honestly a way I was not expecting.I've talked about my death way more since becoming a mom because it is a really heavy reality.If something happens to me, my kid's financial future might disappear overnight.That is some heavy, heavy stuff.So life insurance for me as a parent is.
12:12non-negotiable. Sorry, I wish it was different. It is not a fun time to think about your owndebt. But here we go. Now, there are two main types of life insurance policies, and I want to bereally clear about the difference here because a lot of people who talk about this have a secretagenda. I do not at all. So I got you. The two main types are term life insurance and hold lifeinsurance. There are a zillion different flavors of each, but those are the two big umbrellas.Term life insurance is exactly what it sounds like. You're covered for a specific term. So you pick a window typically 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, and you pay a fixed monthly premium. If you die during that period, your beneficiary or beneficiaries receive a death benefit. If you don't, if you live, which is the goal, the policy expires and you walk away alive and with nothing. No payout, no cash value, no financial asset, just peace of mind that your family was indeed protected during the years that they needed.it most. A whole life insurance is permanent coverage that lasts your entire life as long as youkeep paying the premiums. The premiums are significantly higher than term coverage, sometimes
13:21five to 15 times more expensive for the same death benefit. But a portion of what you pay buildsinto what's called cash value. That cash value grows at a guaranteed rate over time and you can borrowagainst it. It's a financial asset that accumulates basically inside the insurance policy. On itsface, a whole life insurance policy might sound better.Turn life insurance, you just heard me say, where you might end up getting $0 at the endbecause you're alive, might sound like a waste of money, and I get that.And whole life insurance agents will pitch you so, so hard on the cash value component.And look, it is real.
13:57You can borrow against it for a down payment.You can use it as a tax-advantaged savings vehicle.You can pass it down as part of your estate.The premiums are so much more expensive and,the returns on that cash value are generally modest compared to what you'd be earning by investingin the stock market. So what did I specifically do? I got term coverage and I invested the difference.I got a 20-year policy. So if anything happens to me before she's age 21, she is covered.At the time the policy expires, she'll be an adult with her own income and my financial
14:32responsibility is to hurt in that immediate survival sense will be much lower. The reason I chose termover whole basically comes down to this. I'd rather take the money I would have spent on higherwhole life insurance premiums and put that directly into the market myself, into her 529, into hercustodial Roth IRA, into my own retirement. Sorry, by the way, my daughter can take out a loanfor college. I cannot take out a loan for my own retirement. I trust myself to invest thatdifferent more than I trust it sitting inside an insurance product earning a guaranteed but modest rate ofreturn. Now, I want to be really clear here. Whole life is not a scam. For some people, particularlyhigh net worth individuals who have maxed out other tax advantage to accounts and need additional
15:19essay planning tools, whole life makes a lot of sense. But for most parents, the vast majorityin their 30s, let's say, trying to protect their kids while they're also building wealth,term gives you the coverage that you actually need at the price that does not crowd you out of otherfinancial goals. The bottom line is get life insurance. A healthy 35-year-old can probably get a 20-year$1 million term policy for somewhere in the ballpark of 50 to 70 bucks on the up. That is a very smallprice to pay for a very large piece of mind. Use comparison sites to shop rates online. Don't just takewhatever your employer's benefits package offers because that coverage is usually not enough and italso disappears the moment you change jobs. So, Lauren, these are the things that I have done to grow well
16:05from my daughter so far.And oh, actually, DM me because I have a rich mom's group on Instagramwhere I talk about this stuff all the time.And I would love for you to join us.And we can talk about whether it's normal for our kidsto do like every surface in the house.I would legitimately love that.Everyone is invited to the party.
16:21And I will keep you posted on everything that I'm doingto make my daughter rich so that you can copy and paste if you want.For today's tip, you can take straight to the bank.If you have a windfall coming in like a bonus and inheritance,proceeds from selling a home,think about superfunding your kids 529 all at once instead of dripping it in monthly.The IRS allows you to frontload five years worth of contributions in a single year,so up to 95K per kid in 2026 if you're single or 190,000 if you're married filing jointly
16:49without triggering the federal gift tax as long as you don't make additional contributionsso the kids account for the next five years.The reason that this is so powerful isn't just the lump sum,it's that you're maximizing the number of years that that money sits in the market compounding.A dollar invested today is worth more than $5 invested in five annual installments.If you have the cash, front-loading beats dollar cost averaging here.Talk to a financial advisor before you do it because the paperwork, specifically IRS Form 709, has to be filed correctly.But this is one of the most underused legal moves in the Education Savings Playbook out there.
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