Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin - Market Downturn Explained and Bear Market Investment Strategies

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

The market just took a nosedive, and tariffs announced by President Trump are at the center of it all. In this episode, Nicole breaks down how those tariffs rattled the global economy, what that means... for prices and industries here at home, and—most importantly—what you can do to protect your hard-earned money. She'll share why she's still bullish on the long-term market outlook, how to take advantage of the dip, and the funds worth watching if you're creating a portfolio built to last. 00:20 Understanding the Market Crash 01:12 Impact of Tariffs on the Market 04:06 Investment Strategies During a Downturn 07:39 Recommended Funds to Research 09:29 Final Tips

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, I have written, count them, five books now. But each time I'm in the writing process, I stay at an Airbnb. I love to stay at an Airbnb. When I was actually first launching this show, I was at an Airbnb in Arizona. It was so peaceful. It was stunning. I could be productive and comfortable. The Airbnb was also surrounded by a ton of javelinas. If you know Arizona, you know they're like wild pig creatures, but honestly I love them too. Being away for work, for fun, or both is a perfect opportunity to host your space on Airbnb. And if you think that hosting is overwhelming, I have a solve for you. With Airbnb's co-host network, it's easier than ever before to host. It's also a great way to earn some extra cash, which I know we all love. Now you can hire a quality local co-host to take care of your home
Starting point is 00:00:51 and your guests. They can do everything from creating your listing to managing reservations to messaging guests and even providing on-site support. So if you've got a secondary property or an extended trip coming up and you need a little help hosting while you're away, you can hire eight co-hosts to do the work for you. Find a co-host at airbnb.com slash host. I'm Nicole Lapin, the only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand. It's time for some money rehab. All right, guys, how are we all doing? Are we a little stressed? A little anxious? It is completely normal to be freaked out when the stock market has such a bad day. I mean,
Starting point is 00:01:37 it's not just a bad day. It's the worst day in five years. The S&P 500 fell 9.1% last week with a 6% drop on Friday alone, making a 6% total drop since an all-time high on February 19 and $2.5 trillion lost in the market. So that's a lot. We know that the stock market goes up and down, but that kind of fall in such a short timeframe is pretty rare. We've only seen a few like it in the last century. So today, I want to go beyond the headlines to talk about why this happened, what will happen next, and share an easy investment strategy. You might think that that kind of pod agenda sounds really weird. If the stock market is down, why the heck are we talking about investing strategies? I'll explain that too. But first, let's talk about why the heck this is happening.
Starting point is 00:02:24 The short answer is tariffs. As we know, President Trump announced a sweeping new set of tariffs last week on Liberation Day. And these tariffs were much more aggressive than what was expected on Wall Street. A baseline 10% tariff is now in place for nearly every country, and dozens are facing even steeper rates. China, for example, got hit with another 34% tariff on top of a 20% tariff already in place, bringing their grand total to 54%. These new tariffs were a full-blown trade war escalation. Countries hit with US tariffs
Starting point is 00:02:58 didn't wait long to strike back. China slapped 34% tariffs on all US goods and blacklisted 11 major US companies. Europe, Canada, Mexico, and others are prepping or have already enacted retaliatory tariffs. The things we can expect to be more expensive are as specific as avocados, tomatoes, strawberries, beer, whiskey, champagne, to more general categories like cars, electronics, and clothing. So kind of everything. These announcements triggered global panic, sent major economies scrambling to respond, and wiped out trillions
Starting point is 00:03:30 in market value. Stocks plummeted across the board. Tech got slammed, with Apple down more than 13% over the week. Caterpillar, which is a bellwether for global industries, fell nearly 11%. And it wasn't just equities. It was oil, copper, gold, crypto and even the dollar got caught in the sell-off. The ripple effects are hitting industries like tidal waves. Representatives from banks told the New York Times that in this economic climate it would be too risky to underwrite a big merger or IPO. Two highly anticipated upcoming IPOs, Klarna and StubHub, were paused and many others were paused or pulled altogether. With the market itself providing dwindling returns,
Starting point is 00:04:09 we could expect PE and VC to pause big fundraisers as well. So it makes sense why tariffs hurt consumers, but why was the stock market hit so hard? As a reminder, tariffs are paid by companies that import the goods, not foreign governments. So let's make up an example. Say Target imports a backpack from China that costs 25 bucks. Under the new policy, China now faces a 54% tariff.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So that means Target now owes $13.50 in tariffs to the US government for every single backpack that it imports from China. So what does Target do? The company has a few options, of course. It can try to renegotiate the cost with the Chinese manufacturer and pay less per backpack, or it could eat the 1350 cost itself, which is a serious blow to its profit margin,
Starting point is 00:04:55 or more likely it could raise the price of that backpack for consumers. It's clear how that would impact a consumer, of course, but this is also the answer to the question of how tariffs impact the markets. When supply chains break or become more expensive, company profits shrink, consumers pay more, demand slows, and economic growth suffers. It's economics 101 and it's playing out in real time. So here's why, despite all of that, I'm talking about an investment strategy today.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I know it feels bad guys, but remember we have always recovered from every single correction, bear market, recession, depression in U.S. history. And again, I totally get it. This is scary. But let's zoom out for a second. The market has weathered 19 crashes in the last 150 years. Some took months to recover, others took years. The Great Depression, a 79% drop. The dot-com burst and the Great Recession combo, a 54% decline over 12 years. But even then, the market bounced back. It always does. Always. A couple of people asked me over the weekend how I stay calm when markets tank. And I don't say I'm not 100% calm, I'm not gonna lie,
Starting point is 00:06:05 but this, what I'm talking about right now is how I stay mostly calm. I remind myself that this has happened before. Doesn't mean it doesn't suck because it totally does, but it does feel less scary when we remember that we've been through this before and we've come out the other side with bigger and better portfolios and higher net worths.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Market corrections, which is a drop of 10% or more, happen about once every two years. Bare markets, those are drops of 20% or more, happen about once a decade. But every single time, the market has recovered. I'm repeating it so much because it is so important to remember. I've been working in this industry for decades now,
Starting point is 00:06:45 and I have never ever met a financial advisor or economist that recommends selling on a dip. We should be thinking about our stocks more like houses. People don't panic sell their homes if their Zestimate on Zillow goes down. They stay. They wait. And prospective homebuyers don't freak out when home prices are low. They jump in and they buy. That's how we should be thinking about stocks, too. From my perspective, a lot of high-quality stocks are on sale. So I'm putting my blinders on and I am going to try to buy some more. Some hedge fund managers are making comments about how this is starting to feel like 2008.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And I lived through that. It was a really awful time for a lot of us. But some people actually made their fortunes by doing exactly this, buying on dips. If you had 100 grand in savings in 2008, but you were too freaked out by the market tanking, so you waited to invest all of that money until the stock market recovered in 2013 and then invested it, your 100K would be worth
Starting point is 00:07:42 around 480K now. But if you jumped into the market right at the worst time of the crash and invested your $100k, that investment would be worth over a million bucks now. Double what it would have been if you waited for the right time. So that's why I don't panic sell and I actually buy on dips. But here's where I wouldn't overcorrect. We know that the market will recover, we just don't know when. After the stock market dropped 34correct. We know that the market will recover. We just don't know when. After the stock market dropped 34% when COVID broke out, the market recovered in four months.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And then, even just roughly a year later, when the Russia-Ukraine war broke out, the market fell nearly 29% and recovery took 18 months. This does feel a little bit different to me to be honest. Bank of America just upped their recession prediction from 40% to 60% so the market could take a while to recover. I'm buying more because I'm a long-term investor and some of this money I don't expect to need for 20 years and I'm comfortable with the risk of things getting worse before they get better. We don't know when things will get better so we don't invest money that we will need soon. So what do you do if you're just getting started investing or feel paralyzed by what's happening right now but still want to buy the dip?
Starting point is 00:08:50 I'm going to share some simple, smart places to start. So here are four funds to research. And if you're new here, I love funds because they're a collection of stocks. So if one stock is having a particularly bad day, I'm looking at you Nike, the others can act somewhat as a buffer. Obviously do your own research. Ticker symbol VOO. This is a low-cost S&P 500 index fund.
Starting point is 00:09:13 It mirrors the S&P 500 index. So if you buy into VOO, you're buying a tiny piece of the US's 500 biggest companies like the magnificent 7 stocks, Berkshire Hathaway, JP Morgan, Procter & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, and on and on. When the market recovers, and it will, VOO will rise with it. There are other funds that mimic the market too, like SPY, but I like VOO because it has a lower fee than SPY. Ticker symbol DIA. This one tracks the Dow Jones Industrial Average, which includes big, established players like Apple and Boeing. It's less tech-heavy, more old-school, but
Starting point is 00:09:49 a steady bet. Ticker symbol QQQ. This tracks the Nasdaq 100, which has big tech companies like Microsoft and Nvidia. It's riskier, but if you believe in the long-term power of innovation and tech, QQQ could be a good addition. But if you do invest in this, just be aware that a lot of big stocks in QQQ are also in VOO, like all of the Magnificent 7 stocks, for example, so be mindful of not doing too much doubling up or that misses the whole point of diversification. Ticker symbol GLD. This is a gold ETF. It's not going to skyrocket like tech stocks, but
Starting point is 00:10:24 gold tends to hold its value when the market freaks out. So think of it like a financial seatbelt. There is no foolproof fund. But spreading your money out across a mix like this, stocks for growth, bonds, and gold for stability is a great first step toward building a resilient portfolio. For today's tip, you can take straight to the bank. So I know today I've been sharing mostly bad news with higher prices and lower returns in the market, but here's a bright
Starting point is 00:10:48 spot. Not all industries will be affected by tariffs. There are some industries that are expected to be pretty stable in terms of prices, namely consumer staples, utilities, and healthcare, which are less reliant on international trade. So good news for consumers in those industries and for investors, those industries will weather slightly better in this market too. Money Rehab is a production of Money News Network. I'm your host, Nicole Lapin. Money Rehab's executive producer is Morgan Lavoie. Our researcher is Emily Holmes. Do you need some Money Rehab? And let's be honest,
Starting point is 00:11:25 we all do. So email us your money questions, moneyrehab at moneynewsnetwork.com to potentially have your questions answered on the show or even have a one-on-one intervention with me. And follow us on Instagram at MoneyNews and TikTok at MoneyNewsNetwork for exclusive video content. And lastly, thank you. No, seriously, thank you. Thank you for listening and for investing in yourself, which is the most important investment you can make.

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