Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin - Money Tips When You Have no Money
Episode Date: August 24, 2021A lot of financial experts target money advice to people who have money. But what if you don’t? Today, a Money Rehabber asks Nicole for the type of financial advice that doesn’t cost a dime....
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You recognize her from anchoring on CNN, CNBC, and Bloomberg.
The only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand.
Nicole Lappin.
Today we have a question from a listener who wants to stay anonymous.
When I saw this email from her, I got to work on her episode right away.
Her question is such an important question and it really hit close to home for me.
Here she is.
Hey, Nicole. I am looking for money tips for when you don't have money. I think a lot of financial advice out there seems to be aimed at people who have money and good decisions around
that sort of seem to be a privilege for people who have enough of it that they can actually even make
decisions about where it goes. So I'm not
one of those people. And I often can't make good decisions around money because I can't make any
decisions around money. I have a spreadsheet, you know, that functions like a budget. It shows my
expenses and what I make, and I know where everything goes, but I can't make decisions
about where to move that or, you know you know, how to move that around and
things like that. And even healthy money practices like setting aside the correct amount for taxes,
I often need that money for more immediate needs like groceries and utilities and rent.
But I do want to learn and practice good money habits so that hopefully if I make a more livable amount
that I'm set up for success. So in the same vein as keeping a budget, even if you can't decide
about where money goes or reviewing card statements, reviewing every credit score change,
are there any other practical tips that you have that don't cost a dime and also just generally good, healthy practices and
behaviors around money. Because I also come from a background of dysfunctional money stuff and
class anxiety and that, you know, that shit sticks around whether you're poor or rich. So
any practical tips that support healthier attitudes around money too. Thank you so much.
I completely understand the feeling
that some financial advice is just for people
who have money.
And in some cases, that's totally true.
The people that parade as financial experts
like Dave Ramsey will tell you
that if you're living paycheck to paycheck, you're screwed.
That is a true story.
A few months ago, Dave Ramsey said that you were screwed if the stimulus check was a meaningful amount of
money to you. That is wrong. So wrong. You are not screwed. And I know this for absolute fact
because I've been there myself. I've heard soundbites from financial experts that made me
feel like I would never have my own financial security. And that is paralyzing. When you're
living paycheck to paycheck, it's hard to hear about how important it is to take steps toward
saving for retirement and investing in the stock market or even making an emergency fund. I get it. I know you are not screwed. This is not the end of your story. You have a whole
road ahead of you and you're just at one point along the way. Now, that doesn't mean that the
road will be short or the road will be easy. It will be long and some points will be hard and
some points will be really, really fucking hard. But if I can do it, you can do it. And some points will be hard. And some points will be really, really fucking hard.
But if I can do it, you can do it. And I mean that completely. I do want to be mindful here
because I've listened to this question a few times and I've thought a lot about it. The listener did
not ask me how to make more money or how to spend less money. And so I don't want to share those
kinds of tips here.
There will be other episodes for that. There will be time, as the tattoo on my arm says.
And I get it. If you're already working three jobs, it's impossible to just tack on a side hustle.
Or how frustrating is it to hear that you should just go on a rice and beans diet when you're
already on a rice and beans diet? So I want to make sure that I'm giving you exactly what you're asking for. What I'm hearing from this question is that you're in a position
where you're expecting to be making the same amount of money and spending the same amount of
money for a while. But you're hoping, and I believe, that will change in the future. And when it does,
you want to be ready. I got you. The routines you talked about, looking at credit card statements,
checking out your credit score, those are great habits, so give yourself kudos for that. Getting
into the routine of keeping up with your spending plan will prevent you from experiencing any
lifestyle creep when you are making some more money down the line. There are three other habits
that I'd recommend you get into. Number one, negotiate everything. I know that all of your
money is accounted for in your budget, but negotiating is a way to free up a fraction of
the expenses in your spending plan. Negotiating doesn't cost a thing. It is free, which is my
favorite price, but it could save you big. You can negotiate your rent. You can negotiate the APR on your credit card. You can negotiate
your cell phone bill. Anything and everything is negotiable. I can speak from my own experience of
childhood financial insecurity, and I will tell you that when I was first getting into the habit
of negotiating, I would get major imposter syndrome. But having these conversations where you're in the position of
power and asserting control over your finances, that helps quiet that voice in the back of your
head that's telling you that you'll never have enough or be enough. With practice and more of
these conversations, that voice will become a faint whisper. Let's be honest, it will never go
away entirely, but you'll barely hear it over the sound of yourself negotiating like a boss bitch.
Hold on to your wallets, boys and girls. Money rehab will be right back.
Now for some more money rehab.
Number two.
When you're looking at your spending plan, don't just look at how much you're paying,
but look at when you're paying.
For example, I'll give you my favorite mortgage hack.
Without tweaking the amount you've decided to contribute monthly to your mortgage, make
biweekly payments.
You can determine how much to pay
bi-weekly by dividing whatever you're paying monthly in half. That will be what you pay every
other week. In other words, if you need to pay $2,000 monthly, you would instead pay $1,000
every other week. Let's say you had a $300,000 home. By paying bi-weekly instead of monthly, you'd save more than $40,000 in interest.
How does that work, you ask? Is it magic, Lappin? No, it's really just an organizational trick to
make squeezing in a few extra payments a little more feasible to you. Essentially, you're taking
the same amount you would be paying monthly, but instead of 12 payments you would put down on a
monthly schedule, you're actually, sneak attack, making 13 payments a year because that's how it shakes out
if you pay bi-weekly. This scheduling shifteroo can knock years and tons of interest off your
mortgage. Have the bank set up your bi-weekly payments to deposit automatically. Some banks
or credit unions use a third-party processor for bi-weekly
payments with high fees. So if that's the case, you can DIY this by basically picking a month to
pay twice. That still gets you that annual 13 payments instead of 12. Number three.
Start getting into the investing mindset by playing with a free stock simulator. I know investing in the market
may feel like a far reach right now, but when, not if, but when, you have some money to play with,
investing is the best way to build wealth. And I hear you when you say you come from a background
of class anxiety, and so I completely understand how that background can make investing feel
absolutely terrifying. If there have been points
in your life where you haven't had any money, signing yourself up for the stock market where
you can lose it all, all over again, is super triggering. Your financial trauma will probably
take control and tell you that throwing your money into the market is the worst thing you could do.
Trust me, I get it. A stock simulator is the best way to dip your
toe into the investing waters without actually spending any money. It allows you to basically
play house with the stock market. You get to experiment and see what would happen if you were
to invest a couple hundred dollars, let's say, in a stock. And let me be super clear here,
it's just a simulation. If the money
grows in the simulator, you're not actually going to be making any returns, but you're also not
going to be losing anything and you're not spending any money while still learning a lot. It can also
get you more comfortable with investing, which is a hurdle I recommend you overcoming ASAP.
investing, which is a hurdle I recommend you overcoming ASAP. The best way to build wealth,
real wealth, that will affect generations of your family that come after you is to invest.
Here's the last thing I'll say. Balance isn't just for your checkbook. If your spending plan is a source of stress, try to balance it out with another money practice that celebrates your wins.
Keep a success folder.
I do.
Whenever I make a payment on time, I keep that shit in my success folder.
Whenever I use a coupon or if I save money shopping at the grocery store, I save the receipt.
When I was broke and in debt, this was my financial self-care.
When I looked at my incoming bills, I felt like a failure.
If I looked at anything past due, I wanted to curl in the fetal position and cry. But in those moments,
I could turn to my success folder, and I know that I was doing all the right things to get me
where I actually wanted to go. For today's tip, you can take straight to the bank. It's okay to talk about financial anxieties.
We all have them. It doesn't make you weak. Being broke is not the same thing as being broken.
I am so impressed by and proud of the listener today who was able to share her own financial
anxieties. It inspired me to confront some of my former financial anxieties and maybe between the
two of us, it helps inspire you to do the same. Remember, the only problem we can't fix is the
one we don't admit we have. Money Rehab is a production of iHeartMedia. I'm your host,
Nicole Lappin. Our producers are Morgan Lavoie
and Catherine Law. Money Rehab is edited and engineered by Brandon Dickert with help from
Josh Fisher. Executive producers are Mangesh Hatikader and Will Pearson. Huge thanks to the
OG Money Rehab supervising producer, Michelle Lanz, for her pre-production and development work.
And as always, thanks to you for finally investing
in yourself so that you can get it together and get it all.