Moore Style - Are You Hiding Your Influence? TV Host Reveals Style Secrets for Camera Confidence
Episode Date: June 5, 2025Do you often feel like your image is the only thing standing between you and the next level of success? In today’s episode, I sit down with my dear friend Tanya Memme—TV host, executive producer, ...and transformational coach—to talk about how your presence, confidence, and authentic style can become powerful tools for building influence. Tanya shares her journey from pageants to prime-time TV and the lessons she’s learned about showing up powerfully, both on camera and in life. She talks about her “Mastering the Spotlight” course, which helps students overcome imposter syndrome, and why it’s never too late to reinvent your image. If you’ve ever struggled with putting yourself out there or wondered how to make your presence magnetic, this episode is your permission slip to be bold and authentic. Hit play and let Tanya’s story inspire you to stop hiding and start owning your spotlight. “For me, it's not necessarily about how to speak clearly. It's about how you present yourself and come across as charismatic on camera.” ~ Tanya MemmeIn this Episode:- Tanya Memme’s journey from TV host to transformational coach- Building camera confidence & Mastering the Spotlight course- Why even Gen Z is camera-shy - The power of authentic visual branding- Camera makeup and wardrobe tricks- Tanya’s mango allergy and public appearance disaster- Three on-camera prep tips for outfits and makeup- Extra tips to look polished on stage- Tanya’s secret to charisma on camera- How motherhood shifted Tanya’s priorities- Surviving personal loss and a wildfire- How to connect with TanyaAbout Tanya Memme:Tanya Memme is an Emmy-nominated TV host, actress, and former Miss World Canada, best known for hosting A&E’s Sell This House and contributing to Hallmark Channel’s Home & Family. With over 25 years in the entertainment industry, she has also appeared on shows like CSI: Miami, JAG, and Melrose Place. Beyond television, Tanya is a transformational coach and speaker, helping entrepreneurs and creatives build confidence and authentic presence on camera. She is the founder of “Mastering the Spotlight,” a program designed to empower individuals to overcome self-doubt and enhance their on-camera charisma. Website: https://tanyamemme.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanyamemme/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TanyaMemmeOfficial Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tanyamemmeofficial/ Connect with me here:🌐 Website - https://celestemoore.com/👤 Facebook - https://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100078179075595📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/celestemooreimage/TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@celestemooreimage▶️ YouTube -
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How has your image evolved over the years and how has the evolution impacted your confidence and career trajectory?
And so I was really just sort of discovering who I was and fashion and things like that.
So my image has completely changed.
How important has your visual presence been to opening doors and commanding intention in such a competitive industry?
You have to wear what is authentic to you and what pops on camera at the same time.
What are some of the couple tips that you tell them how to clearly speak?
So for me, it's not necessarily about how to clearly speak.
It's how you present yourself.
Three tips that you would give to the audience to prep for camera.
I would say three tips is one of the ones is.
Hi, if you don't know me, my name is Celeste Moore.
I'm a certified image consultant and I help entrepreneurs, influencers, and speakers
discover and master their own unique style so that they can command presence on any stage
that they walk onto.
Today's guest is none other than Tanya Memmi.
She is not only a good friend, but she is a TV host, executive producer, and transformational
coach who spent decades in front of the camera guys, helping others shine on stage and screen.
From red carpets and home makeovers to coaching influential communicators, Tanya's insight
on presence, confidence, and personal style is second to none.
If you've ever wondered how to use your image to boost your income, increase your influence, and actually feel good at doing it, this episode is for you.
So let's dive in.
Welcome, Tanya.
Thank you.
Thank you for being on the show today.
I'm so excited to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Yes.
I know we've been trying to plan this for...
A long time.
A long time.
And a lot has happened.
A lot has happened.
So I appreciate you taking the time.
Thank you.
I want to get into a little bit about your background.
You know, you've spent your career in front of TV, camera, red carpets for over 25 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I started a long time ago.
I was going to say exactly how old I was, but no.
That's okay.
No shame here.
I can.
I'm 53 right now.
But yeah, my whole life was spent in front of the camera.
You look amazing.
Well, thank you.
how has your image evolved over the years and how has the evolution impacted your confidence
and career trajectory oh okay so well I mean when I started out I was so young I started out in the
business actually because I was in the pageant world right and so when I first I guess stepped
on stage I was 15 years old for the Miss Teen pageant and then went for Miss Niagara because
I mean you know I was born and raised in Canada and then won the Miss Canada pageant and then
from there I went to New York city. And so I was really just sort of discovering who I was and,
uh, and fashion and things like that. So my image has completely changed. And then when I got my
first big show, which was sell this house, which was on for 15 years, really, they let me sort of
decide what I wanted to wear. And so I made all the mistakes and all the, you know, I also hit it
out of the park sometimes, but I made a lot of mistakes from just wearing the wrong thing that
didn't look great. And then, so I learned along the way, you know, what looks great on TV, what
looks good on me and, uh, and sort of fell into my, my owning my image for who I am along the way.
Yeah. It's definitely changed through the years. Well, how do you show up now today?
You mean as in my style? Yeah. So, well, maybe we can get into, um, before we get into that,
cause you teach people how to be influential in front of the camera.
Yeah. So basically I created a course called Mastering the Spotlight, Crushing it on Camera. And it is something that I worked on for a few years. And I teach people confidence on camera and how to speak on camera and interview skills and authenticity and how to bring out your authentic self in your branding and in your social media and how to speak authentically from your heart.
we talk I mean all kinds of things teleprompter branding so I mean the list goes on and it's
just really how to build your brand on social media but you can't build your brand unless you
have confidence within yourself to even make the videos and be on camera and create videos so I
really kind of I give people an approach that really makes it fun and makes creating videos
and having your face on in your videos being the face of your brand more fun than it is intimidating
so what are some of the ways that you make it more fun can we delve into that a little bit yeah sure
so um I basically so I I do this thing called the 30-day challenge okay and it's a part of the
course so the course right now is an eight-week course and then there's little mini courses that
you can attach on to it but within that course there's an eight-week challenge and it's it's a
challenge where I get everybody in a Facebook group and everyone who's in the course and they
all have to like every day I send them a video and so video one will be okay so today I want you to
and I'm very goofy in the videos and so you know the videos are like two minutes long and so they're
given a task for the day so they have to like okay today I want you to talk about the worst
hairstyle you ever had when you were a kid because we all have those stories right so I give them
something to talk about and I'm like don't even post it on social media post it in the private
Facebook page so only the people that are doing we're all doing it together and I'm you know and
give out prizes and stuff like that so whoever's like the most complimentary and so we're really
encouraging each other along the way and within 30 days the magic that happens and the fun that
has happened and then I create like a video so everybody can kind of look back and see what
journey we went on together and by the end people are like forget the makeup forget the hair I'm
just gonna wake up and I'll just you know say whatever's on my mind as I'm rolling out of bed
you know like there's there's they so let go of the imposter syndrome and the oh my god listen to
my voice and my hair looks bad and I need makeup and I'm too heavy.
I'm too thin.
I'm too,
you know what I mean?
Not good enough or I don't like the way that I sound in video or whatever it
is that's holding them back.
We really sort of bust through those barriers.
Yeah.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
I'm so excited to learn more about it.
And I know that I was on one segment,
so you were,
you were,
you were,
yes,
you're there in the bonus videos.
I love it.
But I think it's so important to have that course because a lot of your
clients or in this actual group are a little bit older and they're, or they're at an age where
they're not as comfortable as like the younger generation on their phones or their, you know,
social media. And it's really about just training them to understand, like, it's okay to show up
like this as long as it's who you authentically are. Yeah. So it's interesting that you say that
because when I first started the course, my ideal client, I guess, or the people that I thought I
was going to help most were the people like 45 and up that feel very lost in the whole you know
the whole social media world right we kind of feel a little bit left behind and so you know some of
my clients don't even know how to post on Instagram let alone create videos so we start the basics too
right and I really help them walk them through these steps but then I was asked to teach two
weeks ago at the university Brock University that I went to in Canada in Ontario Canada and so I went
And I taught a PR class there, their creative writing PR class.
And these kids are just, you know, they're just upon graduation out of college.
So they're very young and all of them in the class were afraid of video.
Wow.
Like I was shocked.
So it's not just the people that are older, that 45 and up that I thought felt left behind
in all the social media craze.
But there's also this thing where there's a large number of younger students too and
people kids young adults that don't feel confident enough to go in front of the camera to be in their
videos and to be the face of their brand they're very insecure about it and so I really really have
you know a wonderful time watching this transformation happen and yeah so now I'm
probably going to be going to speak at a variety of universities around the country now with that
program it was a three-hour class I had done yeah and now we're doing workshops and things like that
for the students so that's so great it's exciting so it's yeah so what you imagine you know sometimes
you start your career out one way and then it takes a whole other life of its own so yeah
really enjoying that great it's like it's being open to like you know the possibilities of other
things that maybe you didn't see before and someone else is like what about this right it's
like you're ultimately providing and creating a space for someone to get comfortable and build
that confidence and that's so valuable yeah yeah and I get it like I know what it's like to
completely fall on my face on stage on camera like I've been there so I've experienced every
worst thing you can imagine and the best things that you can imagine in front of the camera and
for the whole world to see so but they're learning from your authenticity right they're learning from
your years of experience and which you have that like mentor level now right I think that once you
pass a certain uh point in your career you're like I'm a mentor now like I'm so experienced in this
like you can just learn from my experiences only yeah I mean at the very least right yeah I mean
we tell there's so many stories that I go on and on and talk about it yeah being in Hollywood and
living the Hollywood career for like 20 years,
I have crazy stories, lots of fun stories.
And the students ask me everything,
like questions I don't even want to like repeat.
I was like, no, can't answer that.
You might get me in trouble.
Yeah, let's not go down that road.
But it's just a lot of fun and it's a fun class.
I'm glad you're having fun doing that.
So you seem in your element.
With a resume like yours, hosting, producing, speaking,
how important has your visual presence been
opening doors and commanding intention in such a competitive industry yeah I mean I just did a
whole class on visual branding so um it's very very important and the one thing I love about now
though is that authenticity is everything so sometimes you don't have like before back in the
day I had to look a certain way wear a certain thing makeup was done a certain way stand a
certain place memorize this line say that word you know everything was already kind of like I
was molded into this thing and through the years you know now it's like the messy Instagram is
great you know we don't want perfection we don't want everything to look and feel and be perfect
so you don't necessarily have to wear certain things that other people think is perfect you
have to wear what is authentic to you and what pops on camera at the same time and there's that
fun magical area where that happens right that space and so yeah like it's it's been a very
interesting journey because for now for me it's more about what do I wear that's authentic to me
what do my students I teach that too that's authentic to them especially when I have speakers
like you come in and you know with your expertise and it's it's really about authenticity you
talking about you talk about that too I do so I help people discover who that is for them
and I think there's like someone might like oh I like you said in your career your past career
you know your whole career like you made mistakes and you got things right but did you know what
you got right and why you got them right at the time you mean on camera yeah so like you know i
think a lot of that if you don't understand the concept of your colors what style works for you
what you know what works for your body it's just luck if something works yeah i mean i learned the
hard way by like wearing it on tv and people people are very vocal like the fans are very
vocal going especially on a show like sell this house at the time they're like why are you wearing
that that color looks awful you know just whatever people like but I mean for every hundred amazing
comments you always get the one or two that aren't and then those are the ones that you focus on yeah
of course we all do that like I have 500 positive comments and two that are negative and I'm gonna
harp on that uh yeah yeah so yeah I learned the hard way but now I mean now I know everything I
know my sides I know my colors I know my makeup I know like it's just I can look at an outfit and
know if it's going to look good on me or not. Yeah. And I think too, like you, when you say
a color that pops, right. It's also fabrics. It's also no prints. And I think there's a lot of,
and I really try to focus, like you might think you look really amazing and you just are wearing
something that's going to be so distracting or the light is going to bounce off and it's just
going to be like shine everywhere. And nobody really teaches you that. So it's great that you
are able to teach your clients and your audience just as just as I am so yeah I mean one of the
tricks that I've learned from doing so many infomercials and so I've always had to show
the producers the outfits ahead of time so one of the things that we would do is we would take
a photograph so even if you get your phone out and you take a photo of the outfit from head to toe
because your outfit looks very different to the to the eye than it does on camera and so your phone
is a really good way to sort of I mean it even changes a little bit on video but it's a really
good way to at least it's a starting point which colors pop which outfit kind of makes you look
heavier or thinner or taller or shorter because it really does make a difference from where a shirt
cuts you off does it cut you off here or here you know this right do you roll the sleeves up do you
not everything makes a difference for how you present yourself or how you look so one of the
little tricks I tell my students is just take take a put the outfit on take a photograph of
yourself before you step in front of the camera it's a great idea yeah yeah that's like I was
telling my makeup artist this morning because I do my makeup for these shows I this is no secret
guys I don't know how to translate makeup onto camera so like I'm great at putting my makeup
every day together zoom calls I still put on makeup but there's something about being on these
lights like when we speak on stage that it doesn't translate the the shadows the where the contour
should be where the heavy should be because you know these lights also lighten my makeup so
it was it's it's all those things and maybe eventually I'll get it but no not really I'm
gonna always have someone do it for me I mean I always say that one of the key tricks to makeup
on camera which I'm not wearing it right now which I know that I should be but it's the it's it's a
compact you can even get it at CVS yeah it's white and it's a deshine oh yeah so you don't necessarily
want shine shine on camera I mean some kids can get away with it you know what I mean some
where they just like shine and whatever oh right you know I'm just saying once we all
you know pass a certain age it's like we want to de-shine and then it it really helps your skin
really glow and it makes a big difference so that's another little camera trick because the
de-shine is all the tricks guys we're gonna give you so much information you're gonna be like
rewind. I can't do shine now. One time I forgot it. I did a video. I got so many horrible comments
like you look greasy. Like you can't get away with anything, you know, stop trolling. Okay.
I was like, I don't have my D shine and I'm not 20. Okay. You've appeared on networks from A&E
to Hallmark to BBC. Is there a behind the scenes story where you look or presence completely
changed how you were received and how you felt well I have a story but I it's more because I
okay so I went on a vacation once and I was working for DirecTV okay and you know they have
the consumer electronic show in Vegas yeah every okay so they had a booth set up for me because I
was a spokesperson for DirecTV and I was signing headshots and this and that and it was just it
was so fun and so awesome but I flew in from a vacation in Mexico and I ate a mango and I didn't
know that I was highly allergic to mangoes oh wow so my face just puffed up with like welts and
blisters on it and my eyes so it completely transformed I don't know if this is what the
question was but transformed the look of my face and so I had to apologize to like I mean I kept
making these excuses to like hundreds of people because they would come up and say oh my god oh
my god you look so different in person than you do on tv like you look very different you're still
you still look good you just look really different so that was like an eye-opening weird kind of
thing that you know you have to be careful with everything that you do before you step on front
in front of the camera too like it everything affects it everything yeah everything's multiplied
on camera yeah so what's three tips you would give i would just say like three tips that you
would give to the audience um like to prep for camera um i would say three tips is one of the
ones is try your outfits on and take a photo of it before you step in front of the camera okay
because that really really helps to see which colors pop how they lay all the other stuff that
i had said um i would also you know lay everything out the night before and always bring extra
especially if you're going to set wardrobe stylists love it because i always bring things
that i know look good on me yeah because i can't tell you how many times i've been hired for a
shoot i show up on set and i'm not crazy about any of the stuff that the wardrobe stylist has brought
so i always have things that i know look great and i would say 90 of the time i end up wearing
my own clothes yeah so but that's if you show up on on set and you have a wardrobe stylist but
either way always bring extra stuff to set so that when you get there you see the colors you see how
it blends you see you know what I mean yeah it's always good to do that and then another tip is
just um yeah oh here's a good tip so with your makeup if you don't know how to do makeup I tell
my students to go to a mac you know mac store either mac or um chanel or somewhere where it's
like more of a little boutique thing yeah go in and ask them to teach you how to do your makeup
up for camera there's always people in those stores that are professional makeup artists and
they really know what they're doing and they do it really well but also make sure that you want
them to use as little like as few products as possible because they'll put on the concealer
and this and that all the stuff you don't really need you know yeah for a basic video shoot and
just have them show you what the basics are of the makeup and show them how to put it on and it's
amazing how simple and easy it can be. And, and so that's one of the, one of the easiest tips that
I tell people how to put their makeup on. So I'm going to, I love that. I'm going to put a couple
other little tips out there. Make sure like with your clothing that you check it out, that there's
no snags, there's no holes, there's no stains, like try to bring clothes that are at least
freshly washed newer freshly washed yeah because even older clothes can look much like less uh
yeah they can look um how do i say it just older older yeah and rattier on tv yeah because what
happens with the lighting it truly just reflects everything more so keep that in mind like go over
and make sure everything fits well too do like a fin check because if you have something that like
a pants too long or, you know, you don't want to be tripping on stage. Like there's just all of
these like little tricks, I think. So, um, I think that'll really help the audience with those couple
of things. What are some of the, um, some of the couple tips that you tell them how to, how to,
you know, clearly speak? Sure. So for me, it's not necessarily about how to clearly speak. It's
how you present yourself and how do you make yourself charismatic or come across charismatic
on camera. Like what's the difference between somebody who's boring and you're just scrolling
through or what makes you stop on somebody? What, you know, why does someone instantly gain
your interest or your trust and others don't? Others you're like skeptical of. And so I teach
this one thing called, it's called the trust triangle. And well, actually, you know what,
this is better. I'm going to tell you this other thing that I teach for this answer. So there's
three different levels of speaking. Okay. There's like the highest of the high where you're like,
big and loud and you know you're you're loud and blah blah blah and you're really out there
and then yours there's your normal average tone where you speak just normally like I'm speaking
with you right now and then there's the quiet and the little and the quiet the teeny tiny right
we do this whole exercise where I make people talk about something that they're passionate about and
then I'm going like this you know bring up the energy bring up the energy and so it's not about
what they're saying it's about how they're saying it and if you can hit the three levels like
this constantly you know constantly throughout your story whether it's a 30 second story or
whether it's an hour and you're constantly hitting those highest medium and low points
it is like pouring glitter on your speech it's like it becomes magical yeah so there's a bunch
of exercises I do like that to show people that what I'm saying is real yeah it works yeah yeah
Well, I've seen it, guys, because I've seen beautiful Tanya speak and the very like you started off with like this and then you went like, you know, very dramatic and loud and like major point.
And then you came back down and like so it definitely keeps the audience engaged, really wanting to hear what you're saying.
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I teach others to do the same. Yeah. One of the things.
And I can't wait to hear your new speech.
I know!
We're both speaking together.
We're sharing the stage together.
We are sharing the stage in, like, less than five days.
Oh, my God.
And we're here filming in L.A. because we want to provide tips for you guys.
So we're both kind of like, are you ready?
Are you ready?
Are you ready?
Right, right.
Almost.
Almost.
I'll be ready when I walk on the stage.
And I'll keep that in mind in the back.
You're going to be great.
In the back.
We're both going to be great.
So I want to ask a little bit more personal, a little bit personal.
How has being a mom influenced how you show up in the world today?
And how do you teach your daughter about the power of presence and confidence?
OK, so being a mom, first of all, is, you know, I've had to choose to be a mom because,
you know, when I was hosting and I was at the height of my whole career, I lived out
of suitcases and I was never available and I was you know traveling all over the place and it was
it sounds glamorous but at the same time there's a lot of sacrifice that goes on you know with that
as well where you you know I've missed my grandmother's birthday party I've missed the
you know my nephews for years I wouldn't see them or my family there's always sacrifice that goes
with a super busy career and then I came to the point where you know the career changed in 2008
when reality tv kind of broke out and social media came and so when I started to see that like my
resume which is like this is not as important or as effective as followers on Instagram or
on social media and that became what was more important in this business I was like
do I had a decision to make like do I want to dig in and keep this going or do I want to be a mom
and so I had to make the decision of leaving something that I loved for something that I
loved even more and so you know I did there's sacrifice with that too you know just financial
you're making a huge sacrifice when you pivot away from something like that and so but the love and
the support and the memories and the you know what it's given to my life has just been so incredible
and she's she's my best friend i mean i love being a mom i wish i had more kids but i was too old by
the time i had her because i put my career first so i had her when i was 40. so yeah um but she's
my yeah she's my everything oh that's priceless though yeah oh yeah like it is that's what makes
this world yeah yeah you know why we're here yeah and it's hard to teach a child you asked about
confidence with her you know we work on it every day it's really hard I mean she's in middle school
she's in the eighth grade and middle school is just brutal and she's you know I mean I'm her mom
I do the best that I can for this summer I'm signing her up for a um it's like a teenage um
it's a Tony Robbins program that I'm, I'm signing her up for teenagers and it's, you know, and so
if you do things like that and you get them out of their environment sometimes and take them
somewhere to see and see life through different, you know, through different lenses, it's, it can,
um, it can help a lot. So I do things like that and I'm constantly just, you know, trying to build
her up, but it's hard. It's, it's tough being a mom of a teenager. The last thing they want to
do is listen to you yeah yes I know from experience so it's tough and I'm in it right now
so we try that's an ongoing you know it's an ongoing thing yeah but you're there for her doing
100 doing the things giving her hopefully she will learn from some of your mistakes but
unfortunately they're their own beings and they have to do their own yes exactly really do I know
and you see the train wreck coming and there's not a lot you can do about it I tried to tell you but
but I love that so much um I would love to give you the space if there's anything that you'd like
to talk about um or give us a final few couple you know little tidbits here that we can take
from you I don't know I um anything else that we didn't that we didn't cover I guess uh
you know I'm going to be talking about this in my speech yeah but life isn't always easy right
and it has its ups and downs and we have a lot of decisions that we have to make sometimes you
they're decisions we move from one thing to the other and you're you sacrifice things along the
way right and and i mean i've lived the life of so so many highs and so many lows like the highest
of the highs and the lowest of the lows and you know that i was you know recently lost almost
everything in the palisades fires and so i was a victim of the fire now we're displaced and
so i'm dealing with my new my new sense of reality and so life kind of goes like this right but when
When I look back on my life, I realize that it's in the low times and the hard times and
those times where you're really fighting to get to the other side, where you get to know
yourself, you learn things about yourself that you didn't know.
Right.
And it's in the highs of the highs, the wins that you get to celebrate that.
Yeah.
So I, for the longest time, I didn't celebrate my wins.
I never talked about the fact that you know that we talked about the pageants how I was Miss Canada and and and how far I had gone with my career and I just I hid it all I didn't talk about it for many many years and then finally I was like you know I had I had I realized like why do we walk with why why are we shameful of sometimes of the things that we've accomplished why are we shameful of the things that we feel like we failed at it's all a part of who we are right and it's what makes us who we are
and so now I talk about it all now it's and it feels so good yeah it feels so proud and it this
has been a really really difficult time for you it's been interesting yeah yeah but you know what
I'm alive I made it through I mean I was stuck in the fires for two and a half hours in my car
and I'm here my mom's here because she was in the car with me my cat made it my boyfriend made my
whole family made it. And so it's like, we, I'm just celebrating the fact. I don't know where my
chapter, cause I'm in my, I call it the fourth chapter of my life. I don't know where it's going
now, but I'm so grateful that I'm alive because not everybody made it out of that fire. Not
everybody got their pets out of that fire. And this only happened a few months ago to us. So
yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm pretty excited about chapter four, just knowing I made it out and
I'm alive.
I'm supposed to be here.
Well, I'm grateful that you're here.
Thank you.
I'm grateful that you're here.
And I thank you for taking the time to come here and share some of your, you know, really
great information and talk about the things that are vulnerable to you.
You know, that's, it takes courage.
So thank you.
Well, thank you.
Thanks for having me.
And where can people find you?
Okay.
So you can check me out on social media.
So it's at Tanya Memmi official and that's the same for YouTube.
Now, if you go to my YouTube channel, it's only got like 12 videos on it.
Cause it was actually, um, it was hacked not long ago.
So the whole thing was taken down.
So I'm just trying to put the videos back on in some kind of order.
It's a disaster right now, but you could put, I'd love for you to subscribe anyway.
Please do.
Cause I'll figure it out eventually.
Um, but yeah, it's just, you know, social media, check it, check that out.
And then I have my website, TanyaMemmi.com and I have all kinds of workshops.
and classes and coaching and I'm a somatic coach as well. And so yeah, life coach. So it's all good
stuff. Check her out and then stay tuned for this episode and also stay tuned for our speeches that
are coming up. Thank you so much. It was so great talking to you. Thank you.
