Morbid - A Conversation With Rachel Stavis, A Real Life Exorcist

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

Welcome to a super duper special episode of Morbid with guest host, the incredible Rachel Stavis. We are so freaking excited to be speaking with the Los Angeles–based screenwriter, novelist, and an exorcist. Yup, you read that right. She’s a full blown exorcist. How cool?!?!? It was a grand time, so please enjoy!Check out her book Sister of Darkness and find her on all socials @rhstavis. Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash and I'm Elena. And this is morbid Elena-centric. Elena edition. Elena exclusive, extra, extra. I'd read all about it. Hear ye, hear ye. You've all been invited. We're like, uh, the morning.

It is the morning, which I feel like we're better in the morning. Um, yeah, no, I feel like I, when I get into it, I'm good. Yeah, I feel like it just has better results in the morning. I feel like at night we're both like tired. I just don't feel like I produce good content at night. Yeah, I just don't want to lead anybody into thinking that I'm a morning person because I think Drew would literally blow up my spot and be like, she's Satan. Oh no, Ash is not a morning person at all.

It's very difficult to get Ash up for a morning recording. But once we're here, I did it the past two days. Whoa. Yeah, I did it two days in a row there, buddy. And I came bearing coffee mostly for myself. That's true. But you know what? The last two days I've been able to get up early because my littlest one has slept. I know, which is nice. I mean, knocking on all the wood here, but let's hope this is the beginning of something beautiful. But yeah, so I think, do we have any anything we want to like? No, patrons, people that support the Patreon. That's what patrons means.

you can still get your pre-sale for the ball of the bleeding hearts if you didn't listen to yesterday's episode. Your link is in there, and then general public sales will go down on Monday. And I think you guys are going to be getting a bonus episode very shortly, I believe, this coming week. Ash came up with a really good idea for one. So look forward to that because it's really cool. I think you guys are going to love it. It's a deep dive into something I feel we all hold near and dear to our hearts. It's a fascinating one, so I think you'll like it. And so look out for that. And I think, oh, and for this episode, we decided that we just wanted to do like a little something for you guys, just because you're rad.

Well, some, some. We're going to be covering Brittany Drexel today. And this is clearly, if anybody knows this case, then you know that it is a lot. A doozy one would say. It's really only become a lot in the last few years with things coming out. So we're going to, I'm going to split this into two parts. But because I know I don't like waiting a long time for part two, and I know you don't like waiting a long. So we're going to put part two out on Monday, and it's going to be ad-free. Add-free. Just because, so you're going to get three episodes next week.

Yeah. And one of them is going to be ad-free, because we just figured one, one, you should get the part too quick because you're going to want to know the conclusion to this and I'm going to want to tell you. I feel like I just wanted to be like, guys, I've got to tell you the end. And who doesn't love a little fun person? And it's just like a fun little extra because, you know, you deserve it.

You guys are awesome. So you'll get three episodes next week. We're going to try to throw a bonus episode in there for Patreon. It's going to be a crazy week next week. Yeah, I'm here for it. But a good one. We're going to, I'm going to get sick of Elena. That doesn't happen.

But so yeah, so this one will release on. Saturday and then you're going to get part two on Monday. So you'll only have like a full day to wait. Cool. So hopefully that'll be cool. Oh yeah. Today's Saturday isn't it? Yeah, today is Saturday. Holy cow. Today is Saturday. I thought that today was Friday. No. No. This week was a weird conundrum. Yes. With time. Yes. To say the least. Because my kids' birthday was on Monday and that feels like it was 14 days ago approximately. 14 years for me. Yeah. It feels like it was a long time ago. That's actually really crazy. Yeah, this week was strange.

Did anybody else feel like they were in a little time warp this week? Did something happen? Because it wasn't even like something specific that made it feel that way. It just, I don't know what it was. When I found out yesterday was Friday, I was like, oh. All my star people. What's up? Yeah, what's happening?

What's up out there? It's going on in the planets or whatnot. So let's start Brittany Drexel. Okay. Now, I'd like to start this one by saying that this case is, strange. It's frustrating. And I think it's going to make a lot of people feel like a little bit of a pit in many ways because it's a mother. It's a parent's worst nightmare. And it's also like got mean girls in it. I think these kids, I feel like this girl got trapped far away from home

with people that were absolute twats and thought nothing of her personal say, didn't give a shit about her. and basically brought her there to basically tease her. I think she was just the butt of whatever they were doing. I hate that. And it made me really angry to read. I was like, I really, and I'll get into like why they're assholes. We'll spill the hot tea. Yeah, don't worry.

No, I think part two, I'm going to tell you everything that happened, how she ended up a missing person. Because right now, she's a missing person. They've never found her body. Right. They don't know exactly what happened. but in recent months in the year or so, they have found out a lot more. So that will be in part two and we'll go way deeper into that. Will you tell me at the end of the episode?

Okay, quick. And I'll set it up so you'll know where we're going with it. Cool. So this happened Saturday, April 25th, 2009 is when she went missing. She went missing from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. She was 17 years old at the time. And now we're going to get into who she was. All right. And how she ended up missing. Okay. Which is very frustrating. So she was born,

Brittany Drexel was born on October 7th. She was born in Rochester, New York. She, now, she went to school. It was like this town's name looks like it would be pronounced chili. Yeah. And I was like, it can't be that easy. Because a child? Because no, no pronunciation is that easy. No, never. Chilai. I think it's Chilai. Chilai. I'm pretty sure it's Chilai. And I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I said it right. Chilai. I'm pretty sure I said it right. You know what?

Everyone will let you know. Everyone will let me know. So you know what? But this one I'm like, I think I got it, guys. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Now I'm nervous. She went to Chilai High School.

I think it's Gates Chilai High School. Why? I think I said it. Chilai. I think I did it. Either way. It looks like chilly. Sorry, I just got excited and hit my...

She's literally over there weaving her. I was around like, I think I got it. I think I got it. I'm really excited about this one. Because it's a weird one. It is. It is. I would have just said chili, but I did my due diligence and looked it up. I was like, it can't be that easy. No, no. Because I'll say chili and everyone will be like, you dumbass. I would have said child. Child. Child. Child. So she was the oldest. She had two younger siblings named Marissa and Camden. She loved them.

Oh. It was a very good big sister, very protective big sister. I couldn't find the exact ages, I believe, that Camden was five at the time she went missing. And Camden was only a couple of years older than, or Marissa was only a couple years older than Camden. So they were young. Yeah. But she loved them. She was super sweet. Her mother, Dawn Drexel, said that when she was a kid, she absolutely loved the limelite. Yeah.

She said in all the videos you see of her as a kid, she's like a total ham. Oh. Like always in, she reminds me of like my youngest so that she's like always in a tutu, always in like some crazy outfit, just being like right in front of the camera. camera. Yep. And she'd always be doing something crazy. So, so see that. She basically described her as just super goofy and super full of life. It always makes me, like, I want to like rip my heart out when you see the old home videos of a missing or a dead person. Yeah, like the people as like toddlers sitting there in a two, too, too, like, having their whole life ahead of them. Because you just, you've seen, you just think of like their family looking at that being like, we had no idea. We had no idea of

the horror that would happen. It taints it. And actually, you know, when it came out later what they think happened to her, her mother said, I obviously don't know and they don't have a body and we don't have anything to go on except for what the FBI is telling us they think happened. Which makes that 10 times harder. Well, and she said, and this broke my heart. She said, all I can think of is her face in that situation. And she said, all I can think of is the terror that her face must have shown. And she was like, and I see it every day. My entire body just started like vibrating.

it. Because you just think of your child, like, everybody's seen their child at one point or another, like, scared. Terrified of something. Like, you know, when they're little and to have to picture that on their face thinking of something horrible happening to them. Because like we said, when you don't know what happened, filling in the missing pieces is the worst thing. Oh, yeah. Your brain. You're left to do. Yeah. Your brain will fill in so much worse. And in this case, she doesn't need to. Yeah. Because the actual information is horrific. Oh, great. She was very close to her mother. Dawn. Her mother was married to a guy named Chad Drexel. We love a Chad. Brittany took his last name was very close to her stepfather. I love that. Like very, very close. They were tight. We love when a guy will come in and just do what he needs to do as a stepdad. I was thinking

that. I was like, good job, Chad. Yeah. Good for you, Chad. Making a good name for steptads across the USA. Yeah. Now, her biological father's name was John. He had that he and her mother, Don actually had Brittany when they were teenagers. So they both said, you know, they were babies themselves when they had her. So it was very closely after she, you know, a couple of years after she was born that they split up. Yeah. He moved to, I believe, Tampa, Florida. So he moved far away, which maybe it was for work or something. I couldn't find that out. Happen to me. Well, and that's the thing. I don't understand moving that far away from your child, whether you guys are splitting up or not. I don't either. Because what happened was he didn't really see.

her for a long time. Yeah. They did have, they did rekindle their relationship, but only a year before this happened. I feel like that it's like reminiscent of some other cases where things like this happened, like not even with just like a father-daughter relationship, just any kind of relationship reconnects and like you're so excited and then something horrible happens. And then something terrible happens. And I do like, because he was saying, you know, he would fly up to see her and it became like a thing where every time he got to see her, he was like, I wanted to do everything with her. I wanted to take her shopping. I wanted to go out to dinner. I just wanted to be with her. And we were getting to know each other more. And he was like, and we were just like becoming such good like friends and like father

daughter. And he says like, I can't believe I only have that short of time, which I imagine he has a lot of like regrets. Yeah. And that sucks. That's horrible. He could have had a whole life with her, you know. But at least he has something. At least he has something. You just. You just. wonder like you're like why did it only start a year before she was gone like yeah you know I don't understand that stuff but divorce is weird it's a strange situation so and I imagine he probably had to move to Tampa maybe for work that's what I'm going with I couldn't find anything to tell you that you never know or something maybe like some like work or just a better opportunity yeah and the good news is Chad Drexel was her father yeah like throughout when when John wasn't you know like that right that he

stepped right in. Right. Now, unfortunately, Dawn and Chad were in the process of splitting up when this was all, when this all happened. Oh, God. I don't, it doesn't seem like it was like a vicious, you know, divorce or anything like that, but it was very hard on Britney. Right. Because again, she loved Chad. And he's been in her life since she was a little girl. This is like a biological father. You know what I mean? Like somebody you've known your whole life that that kind of divorce is like. And any time you attach yourself to somebody and divorce is involved, like whether or not it's a biological father, mother, whatever, when you're attached to somebody and you think they're going to be gone, that's horrible. Yeah.

And I can't imagine because like my parents are still married. I've never seen divorce. But like I obviously I know like it's so common that I know about a billion people. Oh yeah. Everybody around me has been through it. And I always think about it. I'm like, that would have devastated me. Like, I can't imagine.

I was, like, stoked when my mom divorced my stepdad. I was like, wow, like, finally happened. Jesus Christ, sister. And then I was like, bye. Bye. But it's like if my parents got divorced, I would be really sad. Oh, my God. No, never.

I can imagine it would be a really traumatizing thing. Now, something that's interesting about Brittany is that she was blind in her right eye. Oh, I didn't never know that. Yeah. I know, like, bits and pieces of this case. I never knew that. Yeah, she had something called PHPV, which is persistent hyperplastic primary vitreous. And it's congenital, so you're born with it.

And it happens in utero, the primary vitris in hyaloid vascularature, which is the major blood supply source to the eye. It doesn't regress. Oh, okay. So the primary vitris or vitreous is like, it's like a jelly behind your eyeball. And it usually regresses once you are formed. like in embryos, or in fetuses, excuse me. And people with pHPV have bad, like, hazy vitreus that stops light from passing to the back of the eye.

Because it never goes away. Because it just, and it's, the vitreus isn't, it's not supposed to, like, totally go away. It's just supposed to, like, regress and turn. And their vitreus stays and is also just, like, shitty vitreous. So it's, like, very, very cloudy almost. Yeah, it's, like scarred and it's cloudy. So it stops light from going to the back of the eye. and that makes the vision blurry at the very least.

Okay. And then obviously can cause blindness. And in her case, she was totally blind in the right eye. And it can often be seen in premature babies. Oh, okay. But I don't know if Brittany was premature. She was a very petite girl. Yeah, so maybe.

But I don't know if she was premature. Nothing has said that. And it's mostly unilaterally present, like in Brittany's case, only in one eye. Right. It's very rarely in both. But it's, it was just interesting. I was like, oh, I know that is. And I guess she wore contact.

that like helped stabilize because part of the thing that will happen is when your eye is blind in that eye the muscle is going to weaken because you're not used to like focusing it on something so the eye can drift and she was wearing like corrective contacts that would like keep it in place yeah okay cool so like I said she was very petite she was five feet tall she was barely 100 pounds like just a little little girl goals yeah very tiny and five feet tall is very like I'm five foot one and a half So you're essentially five feet tall. So short. I like to add the one and a half.

But yeah, very short. Yeah. So I feel her. She was a star soccer player in high school at Chilai High School. Chilai. At Chilai. At Chilai. And everyone said she was like a beast on the soccer field.

I love it. She would like take you down. She's got her elbows going. I love. Hell of yeah. She's five feet tall. She's scrappy. Barely 100 pounds soaking wet.

And she's just like taking people out on the high school. soccer pit uh field uh soccer pit soccer pit it's like let's go ahead now to the soccer pit i played soccer when i was little i don't know why i just called it a pit that sounds like something i would do i'm not really sure uh the soccer rink the soccer court so so she also if you look at any photos of brittany it is very clear that she loved fashion yes she was very much a fashionista she was very into clothing, makeup, hair, very much an Ashkel, if you will. I'm like dancing. I'm like, Britney, Britney, me too.

You would have loved Britney. And she had aspirations. She loved to model, like, do, like, you know, amateur modeling. That's cool. She would take those, like, cute little shots where you're looking over your shoulder. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? And she also had, she wanted to become, like, a cosmetologist.

She wanted to go to cosmetology school. She wanted to be Ashkell. I love it. And she was very into it. She was, you know, and she's, she does, she was like you. She like changed her hair all the time. Yeah, it's a hair, it's a hairstylist thing. Yeah.

And she just, and she was beautiful. Oh. Like beautiful. She had a beautiful smile. I've seen pictures of her. It just breaks your heart. Yeah. She's just one of those girls that like, like, you would be like, oh my God.

Yeah. Look at that girl. Right. So pretty. But fast forward to April 2009 when she's 17 years old. She's a junior. in high school at this point. And like I said, her mom, Don and her stepfather, Chad, starting to go through a divorce. She was having, and the house was going into foreclosure. So they were going to be

moving out of the house, a lot of changes. There's a lot on her point. Not happy changes. It's not like you're moving out of the house because you want, you know, of your own volition. Right. You're being forced out of your house. Right. And I'm sure knowing about, you know, financial struggle and knowing what's going on with her parents. It's like, that's a lot. And at 17, you're already going through the crazy 17-year-old stuff. She did have a boyfriend, John Greco, who I love John Greco. Like, every interview you see of him, you're like, you really loved her. Like, he really loved her. And he really stepped up. The thing in, like, the crime shows where they, like, point to him. And then they're like,

but he was great. No, they actually don't point to him because he was nowhere near this. Okay, good. He had nothing to do this. Because you know when they lead you to believe, and then you're like, I hate that I hated that guy for even a fraction of a second. Exactly, because then you're like, he's a lovely person. Thanks a lot. No, John, John is just straight up lovely. Okay, good. They, they, they, I think they were dating for about two years on and off. Yeah. They had the typical 17 year old, really, ship you break up every five seconds. Yes. So at this time, they were going through somewhat of a rocky period. So it was like piling on with the divorce and everything. She at this time was diagnosed with depression. She was taking antidepressants for it.

but she was, you know, at the time she was feeling stable. There was no indication that she wanted to harm herself or want, I mean, there's reports in like certain places that like she overdosed on like pain medicines at one point. That's not substantiated. I've seen it like reported in other things and I'm like, maybe don't do that because like they've never confirmed that. Yeah. And I just don't think that's cool to like just be like, so.

People like to say that for shock factor. And I feel like they just kind of like. our drawing off of she was diagnosed with depression, so let's tack on an overdose. And it's like, no, like, maybe it happened, but like, we're not sure. It's not substantiated. So I wouldn't say that that actually happened. Every one of her family and friends said she in no way would want to hurt herself. Okay.

And let's believe her family and friends. And I believe her family and friends. Right. Off the table that she would want to hurt herself. And that she would never, like, run away. She definitely didn't run away. And we will find out why there's very clear indication she didn't run. away. Well, and you said in the beginning, she loved her little sister, little sister and little brother.

She loved her little sister and her little brother. Right. Regardless of what she was going through with John, her boyfriend. She loved John. She loved her mom. She wanted to become a cosmetologist. She was, you know. She had goals and she had a good family. She had goals. And it's like, we're going to see, like, she didn't bring anything that would indicate that she was running away. It just doesn't make sense. So she wanted to go to spring break. Like any. 17-year-old who is surrounded by kids going to spring break. It wasn't like a big thing in my school. No. It just wasn't. Some people went to spring break. Yeah. Some people did, but it wasn't like, I guess in this high school, tons of kids from her class, like it was a thing. Yeah, like a Laguna Beach

kind of thing. Literally. We did, we just did a crime countdown episode. I don't know when it's coming out. I know. I was thinking of that. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, it really was like that. It was like all the kids go to spring break. They all go to Myrtle Beach or like somewhere around there. I think it's a depends on like your class because I remember like when I was a sophomore the senior class I remember everyone was talking about going away but then when I was a junior and a senior like it was only like basically like the very rich kids so yeah I'm going to cobo that was literally ours it was like I think it's also your proximity to a place to go yeah where in massachusetts I mean she was in New York though right where you're gonna go but you're but technically they're like what 14 hours out

of Myrtle Beach where she is yeah I guess that's true They're a little closer. It's a little closer, I guess. Like, it's technically, like, a little over a day drive. Right, right. So it's more realistic than, like, driving from Massachusetts to, like, Florida or somewhere. Yeah. It's just, I mean, yeah.

So a ton of kids from her school were going to be going. So, of course, she wants to go, especially with everything going on. I think she just wanted to get away a little bit. I think she needed a vacation. She needed a little vacation. And so the problem was it was mainly, like always, the senior class that was going. That's usually what it is. Typically. She was a junior. So she wanted to go with older kids. And her mom was like, no. And these girls that she wanted to go with, she wasn't friends with, really. She just kind of like was acquaintances with them. And they invited her? She didn't know them well. And they were all over 18. Oh. So that's why her mom said no. Yeah. And she asked her mom tons of, I mean, she was persistent. And she kept. She made like a PowerPoint presentation. Pretty much. And they got in fights about it. I mean, it was a big deal. Because.

I mean, it was, of course, you're 17. You want to do something. Your mom says no. You're going to start screaming. Like, press your belly button and then you got mad at your mom because you won't let you. There you go. Yeah. And so, and Don, I give it to her because it must be really hard. I'm terrified of the day that you have to repeatedly say no to something like that. And they flip out and you don't know what, like. And you've got two that will be working together. And you've got to stay strong. And it's like, that must be really hard. So I give Don a lot of credit. And Chad was on, even though they were going through like their split, Chad was on Don's side and was, I backed her up and was like, no. Like, we don't. And their reason was, one, you don't know these girls. Two, I don't know these girls. Right. They're older. And then they're older than you. And there's

no adult supervision. You're 17 years old. And her mom, Don said, something bad's going to happen, Brittany. I don't want you going. Oh, God. Like she knew. She said, I knew from the second that, And she was like, if she went, I was like, no, you're not going. Spring break is dangerous. Mike, I'm telling, I hope they're going to listen to me when I'm 17. Maybe they'll listen to this podcast. Girls, you're not going anywhere on spring break. Hi. I will let them. I'm like, I am going to be the cool fun on. I can't wait. I will fully back you on that. And I'll be like, listen, T.T. who did like every bad thing didn't go on spring break. So you're not either. No. Mark this day, January 23rd, 2021. You're not going on spring break.

Nay, nay, like Bailey Sarian says. And again, Don and Chad did the right thing. They did the right thing. They told her no. They stuck to their guns. And this is just what happens is really out of anybody's control. Well, and what I hate is like when Don is saying something bad is going to happen. In her mind, she's probably thinking like, you know, something like bad, like alcohol poisoning. Exactly. You'll get like, you won't be able to go into a bar and you'll get like arrested for like a fake ID. Something like that. Something like that. Something like that. Not life or death. Exactly. She's not thinking you're going to get plugged off the street and never seen again. No. But so, you know, Brittany finally, after really hammering her mom about this, finally gave up and seemed to give up and was like, fine. But she was plotting.

Mm-hmm. So she said to her mother, okay, fine. But can I stay a few nights at my friend's house in Rochester? Mm-hmm. And she was like, okay, you can stay at your friend's house in Rochester, but I want to talk to their mom. Yeah. And she was like, because again, these are the girls.

I just a fucking hate them. Oh, I'm going to do that shit. Ma did that to me all the time. And I'm going to be such a pain in the ass. I know. Sometimes I think about it and I'm like those poor girls. But they'll be very protected. They will.

You know what it was? I went from having like absolute freedom when I lived at my mom's house. I could do whatever the fuck I wanted. And then I moved in with my grandparents for that very reason. And they were like, yeah, you live at the convent now. Yeah. My grandma literally called it the convent. She did because you needed it.

Yeah. And I just want them to know, like, I love you and I don't want anything to happen to you. And I'm sorry if that pisses you off. The older you get, like now I'm 24, I'm going to do the same shit with my kids. Exactly. Because you love them and you care about them. Yeah, that's all. And you just want the best for them.

Exactly. So she was going to stay at the, and she was saying I want to stay with these girls at their house in Rochester. They're not going to go. So she was like, can I talk to their mom? And she was like, sure. So she talked to someone. on the phone who she thought was a mom. Turned out it was one of the friends, pretending to be a mom.

Wow, she must have been good. Yeah. Because I feel like Dawn knows her shit. Yeah, right? And this girl must have been good. And what was actually happening was she and these girls were going to Myrtle Beach. And they were just going to lie and say they were in Rochester the entire time staying because they were only planning to go to Myrtle Beach for a couple days and then drive home.

Yeah. It's about a 14-hour drive. So they were planning, you know, I'm just going to call mom and text mom and tell her I'm doing things during the day and then we're going home at night and she'll never know. Yikes. This sounds like exactly a scheme I would applaud about back in the day. Oh, 100. But you wouldn't have been able to do this. If I still lived with my mom, 100% I would have been like chilling in Myrtle Beach.

Oh, yeah. Ma and Papa, they would have like drove to Myrtle Beach and like killed me. They would have got you before you even got thought of the plan. Yeah. They would have like saw me packing. Yeah. I'm like, really, you're stupid. I see the bathing suit. Yeah, no, they would have like, we know you. But yeah, so she's on her way to Myrtle Beach now. Her boyfriend, John, knew she was going. Okay. He knew not to tell her parents. Obviously.

But of course, he's, you know, they're all 17 here. Yeah, whatever. And she said, you know, she was just, and she had told him, like, I'm, you know, I'm not going to do anything. I just need some, I need to get away for a couple days. I want to go to the beach. Like, you know what's going on with me. And she actually wanted him to come. And he wanted to come, but he was like, I can't get out of work. I have to say. So he was bummed, she was bummed, but he was like, go without me, like, have fun. I wish he didn't have to go to work. I know. And I feel so bad because he probably is like, if I was there, would this have happened? Yep, probably not. Things like this is just always, like, what could have been if this happened? Always, always, always, always. So, again, she was calling her mother the entire way down there, texting her, saying she's in Rochester. At one point, she said, oh, hey, mom, just going back

to a friend's house to watch a movie tonight. Yeah. I can hang out. And it's like, Dawn, thanks of that now. And she's like, and now I know she was on her way to Myrtle Beach. Oh, God. That must be a bummer. Yeah.

So on Thursday, April 23rd is when they arrived at Myrtle Beach. She was with these girls. They're all over 18. These girls' names are Alana Lippa and Jennifer Oberer are the two like main girls that she was going to be staying in the hotel room with. They were also with Jennifer's brother, who was also a lot of. Lana's boyfriend. His name is Phil Ober. And they were with Jennifer's boyfriend, Uger Ozturk. Okay. I mean, they're all dicks, so. Yeah. But his name is Ugar Ozturk. And again,

they both had their boyfriends with them, so I think she was meant to bring John and... Yeah. So she was kind of the odd man out of that. With them was also eventually a guy named Viet Gien, Louis Diomico and Nico Shereko. There are a lot of guys in this equation. A lot of guys. And there's more. There's more guys when they got there. So. And there's only the two girls. Alana and Jennifer. Then obviously there's Brittany. Yeah. Okay. There's a lot of shady things happening. That's weird. Yeah. That's very weird. A lot of shady things. On person, I wouldn't feel comfortable going to this. Oh, I wouldn't want to. And here's the thing. So none of these people were really good friends with Brittany. Right. So she probably didn't even know who was

going to be there. She probably didn't even know most of these people. Right. And then she knows Jennifer. She knows Alana. But like even people at school were like, yeah, I guess they knew each other. They weren't friends. Like they didn't hang out. Maybe they were like just becoming friends or something. I guess. And I think what this was was what we find out is that Alana and Jennifer were big party girls. They were big into drugs, big into the party scene. And I think they were like these cool wild girls. And I think Brittany was just trying to be part of the crowd. Well, and she was going through, like, the most trying time that, like, when you're in high school, like, you're either going to try to figure out how to get through it or you are

going to party through it. Exactly. And I think she just was trying to fit in with them. Yeah. And she was like, oh, these cool older girls want to take me to Myrtle Beach. Right. And these two older girls really took advantage of that and they treated her like shit. I hate that so much. And I hope it just gives them lots of wrinkles. Yeah. And I hope they don't have. have access to a good retinal cream. I hope they don't. Or Botox. Never give those girls access to retinal cream. Never. Don't do it. Yeah. Do not give mean girls access to retinal cream. I think that's a good retinal cream. Don't do it. No. So yeah. So as we, you know, we've pretty much laid out that these girls are partiers. They're into drugs. This is not a good situation for Brittany to be in.

No. But she thinks it is, of course, because she's 17. Now, this is going to play into later why Brittany finds herself in a pretty risky situation. Okay. So hang on to that. So they were staying at the Bar Harbor Hotel on North Ocean Boulevard, which there's like a main strip, which is like Ocean Boulevard. And it's like where all the things are. Right. You know, like I think everybody, it's like every town like this, like place, destination.

Prime time for spring break. Yeah. Like all the hotels and resists. resorts and bars and clubs are all on this one strip. It's like designed for that. Exactly. So they were staying pretty close to that. So that night they went to a club and it's called club kryptonite. I'm obsessed. Google what this club looks like. Because when I googled it, I was like, no. Oh, God. First, if you pulled up in front of this club and we're like, we're going here, Elena, I would laugh at you so hard. If you got in the car with me to go to a club, I would laugh so hard because I'd be so excited.

Because this place looks like, it looks like in a comic book, like where the bad guy would have his headquarters. Yeah. So I think I've, which makes sense. I've, I've mentioned puffer bellies before. That is where my phone got stolen in the under 18 club we would go to. Sure have. That's pretty much what I'm picturing because it does look like where the bad guy would have his headquarters. It does.

And a few of our listeners were like, I've been to puffer bellies, correct. Yeah, like you are very incorrect. So if you've been to Club Cryptonite, let us know if you agree. Yeah, because Club Cryptonite, not only in name, because that's a perfect name for a bad guy's headquarters. It is. It's, yeah, it looks like it. It just looks cartoony and just like crazy.

I want to Google it. You got to Google it. I was like, I was like, what? But I also don't go to clubs. I mean, I've gone to clubs in Boston, which are old buildings. Like, they don't look like, like, clubs and like my, you know, where like, it would be like in Miami or like Myrtle Beach. Yeah, I would assume.

They look very different in Boston. And I was just not a big clubber anyways. So this is all. You weren't? This is all very new to me. So they went to this club. Now, again, she was 17. Is it right?

No, it's permanently closed. Yeah, I thought it was closed. I wasn't sure. But yeah. I can't. I'm trying to find what it like did look like. It's crazy looking. Oh, wow.

Okay. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah. So, right? Doesn't that look like a place where a bad guy would have headquarters? You know what it looks like? What? Which is the same thing as a bad guy headquarters and don't come at me. Looks like a Scientology building. It really does. It looks like a very cartoonish Scientology building.

You're right. It does. It truly does. It just looks very ominous. Are those elephants on the top? What is that? Right. I was confused. I don't know what elephants have to do with kryptonite. I'm not really sure. I don't know if those are. No, it's just like a weird. Whatever. It's very strange. It's not important. It's just, Either way. She went to this club where she met up with a guy, a 20-year-old guy named Peter Brasowitz. Okay. She knew this guy. Oh, why? She knew this guy from Rochester. Oh, okay, okay. They had known each other for a couple of years. They were friendly. Sure. They at least knew each other. Sure. So they were seen at this club, hanging out. Um, and he was with four dudes as well.

Uh-huh. A lot of guys in this scenario. We're adding five more guys onto this. And we already have about five. And we already have a lot. So I'm, I mean, maybe it's just like the, the nature of being a woman. You're like, that's a lot. Maybe it's that I just don't trust straight white males. Well, and it's, that's just a lot. Like, if I knew them all, like, we used to live in, you know, Quincy. Right. And there was all of John's guy for, like, I know all of them. It's different. I would, of course, feel comfortable around all those guys. Guys, I don't, that's a lot of guys that you don't know. Well, and you weren't in high school. It's. It's a very different thing when you're 17 and you're hanging out with like fellow 17-year-old guys.

But when you're getting into like 19, 20-year-old guys and you're 17, I'm sorry, there is a big jump there. Of course. And you're going to, I wonder if she was, you know, I wonder how uncomfortable she was starting to feel. Because these girls, Alana and Jennifer knew a lot of these guys. Right. So I just feel for her. I feel like this is starting to become a scary situation. So far nothing bad is happening.

But these guys with him are Keith Cummings, Matt Abrams, Anthony Schmonds. Anthony Shmizzy? I know they called him Shmizzy. Bill Watson. I know he went by Shmissy. Yeah, he's Shmizzy. And if not, I'm disappointed. Yeah, if not, I don't know who they, then I'm even more suss if they didn't call him that. But they all hung out.

As far as, you know, everything's reported, nothing wrong. Okay. Everybody had fun. I believe there's photos from this night where they were all like hanging out and, you know, having fun. She's in some of the photos. Right. Peter Peter Peter Peter Peter pumpkin eater

Yeah Had a wife and couldn't keep her She she He is a lot In what regard So I beg you to go look for his little clip on the Dr. Phil show For some reason you can't find the entire interview It's like all taken down

Weird. Probably because ongoing investigation. But you can find little snippets of it. And Peter is, whatever you're picturing Peter Brasowitz to be, he is. He's a 20-year-old club promoter. So whatever you are. No, no, no, no. Yeah.

Say no more. Say no more. Just go with that. Say no more. Are you picturing a giant collar inside of, are you picturing a giant. giant collar and an opened button shirt that's opened far too low. You know, it makes me want to dig a hole and just like live in it forever is that. I dated a club promoter.

Yeah, I'm just picturing that scrawny motherfucker. Yeah. And I remember being like, Ash, really? Yeah. Well, this, Peter, Peter's that. A big collar and an open shirt. Like big, the big, like blue collared shirt. An update.

Oh my God. An updated Paul Snyder. Exactly. Exactly. It's like open far too low. It's silky. Very tan. Yep.

Very slick hair. Oh. Very like I'm pretty. Lather white shoes. Yeah. It's a lot. And he's 20. So the thing, the reason I'm like bringing him up in that interview up is he has been cleared of any wrongdoing.

But he, he doesn't come off good, in my opinion. I'm still suss. I mean, club promoters rarely do. I'm, I'm, but it's just, it's the. The way he, like, talked about, I don't know. He just, so what they were doing in this interview, like, obviously later after she went missing, was they were trying to have him, like, allow him to tell his side of the story and, like, what he knew. Because he was a suspect at one point, I'm assuming. He was a person of interest at one point.

Sure. We'll definitely get into that. But it was the way, like, he talks to Don Drexel in the interview. And he basically tells her, like, you know, because Don Drexel at one point is like, why didn't you stick around? Like, why weren't you with my daughter instead of letting her, like, walk alone? Yeah. It places. He was just asking things like that. And he basically is giving her attitude and being like, she said, she said, I'm fine.

So I let her go. And it's like, maybe don't talk about her like that to her mom. Like, don't make it seem like she's this little bitch. Well, and that's like any mom is going to ask those questions of somebody that was last with their daughter, I'm assuming. Yeah. And he says things like, you know, that he wasn't there to babysit. It wasn't his responsibility. And it's like, okay.

Wow. Wow. Oh, all right. So I don't, I'm like, wow, you're all very cold for having hung out with this girl that went missing within an hour of hanging out with you. And you're also not babysitting. Like, you just take care of your friends. That's the thing. I'm like, what? So it tells you all you need to know about how these kids did not give a shit. Yeah, the dynamic. They were not there to help her. They were not there to look out for her. They were there to deal with her. And then the girls were there to try to make her life miserable. So, yeah, so that's great. Now, Peter said they had been friends. He confirmed that they had been friends for a couple of years. Okay. So he was like, and we like knew each other. We didn't like hang out all the time, but like I knew her. And the friend group probably. Yeah. And later, Don Drexel did say she believes that she had met Peter at one point during those two years. So Friday, April 24th, this is the day after they arrived in Myrtle Beach. Because remember, the night before went fine. No incident. She was texting her boyfriend already the morning after. saying I'm not having fun. Oh, no. She was already saying that she's not getting along with the girls. They're, they're leaving her out. They're picking on her. Three is not a good number. Yeah.

She was being, you know, she was spending a lot of time alone. She was like walking down the strip downtown on Friday, like alone at one point. What the fuck? Yeah. Those, I mean, those other girls never should have led her, but they weren't her friends. I just, I'm like, why did you invite her? They didn't give a shit what happened to her. Yeah. But I think it's shitty because she was saying like they were like kind of like just, they were like bullying her. Yeah, I was going to say it sounds like it.

Yeah, like they were literally doing things just to be a dick to her. And they keep doing things just being a dick to her. Well, there's one instance and it's going to come up in a second where they are clearly doing things just to be dicks to her. Okay. I think they were just being mean to her. They're just mean girls. You know how like those, those assholes can be.

Yeah. Yeah. Like we've all. I remember, like, thinking you're hanging out with, like, cool girls and thinking you're part of the crowd and they really, and maybe not everybody knows this feeling. But, like, and suddenly realizing you're there to be the butt of the joke. Yeah. And that is the shittiest feeling. Yeah.

Like the sh-hmm. Because I wondered that, too. I was like, why did they invite her? But people like that do things like that. But those are kind of girls, especially like that kind of teenage girl. Like, if you're that kind, you'd like that. You need that. It's part of your day.

You thrive off of it. someone to be a dick to. Like, I remember the girls that, like, I've mentioned before, the girls that, like, horrendously bullied me in school. They, they, I remember one day, and I thank my mom every day for this, one day, I remember they invited me to come over one of their houses, because they were all there. Yeah. And they invited me over, like, A. I am. And I was so excited. And I asked mom, I was like, can I go? Please, can I go? Can you bring me? Because you're like, it's finally over. Like, I'm in. I was like, cool. They're going to, like, want to hang out with me. And mom was like, no. Yeah, because she knew what was going to happen. And she refused and I was so upset and I was so

mad at her. I was like, I'm, what? Like, they're cool and I want to hang out with them. And she was like, no. And later she was like, I knew what they were going to do. Yeah. She was like, something terrible was going to happen when you got there. They were inviting you to be the punching bag. AIM group AIM with like girls that you weren't friends with always and badly. Because do you remember when I called you because all the popular girls in sixth grade got on AIM and invited me into this group AIM? am and they invited me to something and they said it's next Tuesday we'll see you next Tuesday yeah and I was like okay cool because I was in sixth grade so I didn't know what that meant and I was like yeah like they said see you next Tuesday and you were like yeah they're not doing anything on Tuesday

I was like no they're not doing anything on Tuesday they just called you a cunt yeah I was like now I'm gonna kill them all so so yeah we know all about the girls that need to to be they're just they they need to invite you and they don't make it far in because it makes them feel good themselves to bring you down. And that's awful. Because if I all accounts, Brittany, was like, a sweetheart. Well, you know what I'm thinking to? And obviously, it's a very cliche thing to say, but you said she's beautiful. Oh, they were jealous as fun. She's got all this stuff going. They're jealous. Go look them up. They were jealous. Yeah. Like, she's gorgeous. I can tell you that. 100%. And it seems like she was like a likable girl. She had like a lot of friends. She's pretty.

She's nice. She had, and her boy, she had like a cute boyfriend. Right. Like, she had tons of friends at home. She was popular back in Rochester. Like, she was a, everybody liked her. And so they were definitely jealous. Jealous and threatened, I bet. Yeah, she's this like little cutie in there. Like, let's try to make her feel bad. But while she's, so she's walking on Friday,

she's walking down the strip, like the main drag. And she's alone. At night? I think this was before it got dark, but I think it was right as it was getting dark. I was getting to a point. I mean, she should never. be walking by herself. Because even in the middle of the day, shady stuff can happen.

Yeah, as we know. But yeah, I think it was coming up to dark. So she definitely shouldn't have been walking by herself. But I think she was just trying to get away from them. And Brelly was like, and she was texting her boyfriend the whole time being like, I hate it. I want to come home. And she is trapped because they drove her there. Exactly.

And she's 14 hours away. So it's not like you can be like, John, please come get me. Because it would take him as long to come there as it would to just wait it out for another day. Right. So you're really stuck, and that sucks. And you can't call your mom. So she's walking down the strip.

And apparently, like, when she was walking down the strip, she did start getting, like, a lot of creepy dudes, like, commenting at her and, like, whistling at her. Of course. And just being pigs. And, like, because apparently they can't just, like, shut the fuck up and, like, look at a pretty girl and not open their fucking mouths. So, yeah, so they decided to make her incredibly uncomfortable while she's walking around. Well, and think about the characters on this strip at this, like, it during. spring break like these are our season not the finest people any and all people are coming in there so

it's like you don't know so she's getting uncomfortable and she saw a younger guy like her age and she he seemed like a nice guy so she just kind of like walked up to him really quick and was like can you just walk with me because i'm like i'm freaked out this guy was a nice guy okay you made me really fucking nervous he was a nice guy and he said he said absolutely i'll walk with you like no problem. He was visiting for spring break as well from the Midwest. Yeah. So he's a okay. All right. All right. I feel better. I think she could tell. So she was just like, we love a Midwestern face. It's a friendly face. It is. Don't you know. So she just, he just could tell. Yeah. So yeah. So he walked with her. She ended up having him like come, nothing happened,

but she had him come back to the hotel and like hang for a little bit because they girls weren't there. Yeah. So there is cell phone video that he took. of her just like sitting on the bed, like laughing and like talking to him. Okay. And like a couple more videos of her like on the balcony and like talking to the can't. Like they're just talking to each other. Yeah. According to him, nothing happened.

Like nothing. There was no. I mean, these girls are being really mean to her and then she meets a nice like Midwestern boy. She just, yeah. She just needed a moment to have fun. Yeah.

I think she just wanted an ally. Yeah. That's all. And it was, you know, when I said it was, it wasn't dark. I was mistaken it was dark when she was walking because I believe. leave this video, you can see that it's like 10.30 at night. Oh, okay. So I believe it was around the nine-something hour that she was walking.

Okay. So when she went missing, he immediately came to the police and was like, I met her. Like, here's the cell phone video. I can tell you where she was. I can tell you she wasn't happy with the girl she was staying with. And like he was literally like, you can polygraph, like whatever you need from me, I will give you. A Midwestern sweetie. Right?

And he was completely cleared. Like it completely cleared they didn't think anything was wrong with him. Now, and again, he was the one who brought the information to the police. He didn't just pretended that didn't happen. So that happened. Everything was fine. Saturday, April 25th, the next day. Brittany decided to go down to the beach near the hotel with Peter and those other four guys.

She hung out there. It was around noon time, I think. So they just hung out at the beach. Everything seemed fine. Yeah, regular spring break shit. Yeah. Peter drove her back to the hotel at one point, and she left her flip-flops at his car. Now, around 2 p.m., her mom, Don called her.

And Brittany told her she was at the beach, because she was. And it was hot in Rochester. So Don was like, oh, she's at the beach with friends. Yeah, makes sense. Whatever. So she was like, okay, so she didn't say anything. She was just like, oh, okay. Like, she didn't further be like, what do you mean you're at the beach?

Yeah, it's not weird. And the last thing she said to her mom was, mom, I'll see you tomorrow. I love you. Fuck. Yeah. Which is like, mm-hmm. Now, nobody, you know, we don't have like her movements every minute of that day.

No, of course not. But around 8.15 p.m., we know she left her hotel and cameras show Brittany walking on the main strip on Ocean Boulevard. Alone again? Alone again. And they show her texting. And she was, we found out later she was texting John in the moment. And she was also texting Peter. Okay.

And she was texting Peter, I believe, because she was. left her flip-flops in his car. Yeah, she was going to get them. So she went to the boy. She was on her way to the boys hotel, which was the Blue Water Resort. Cameras at the hotel show her. There's CCTV footage of her, like, walking into the lobby and going to their hotel room. Okay.

Now, she went into their room likely to get the flip-flops back. She only spent about 10 minutes in there. And then she was gone. So she really did come just to get that. Okay. Every time I think we're getting to, like, okay. And then she never left the hotel. her me again. Exactly. So what happened was apparently, according to Peter and all the guys and her

cell phone records, the reason she was only there for 10 minutes is because when you see her, she's wearing black shorts and like a multicolored like top that you would wear on vacation in 2009. Yeah. And so she was apparently in there talking to them and she was getting text messages from Jennifer, one of the girls. Yeah. Jennifer was being a dick and had loaned her those black shorts. And then was like, I want them back now. Okay. So she literally let her leave and walk all the way to this other hotel. And then when she got there, it was like, you need to come back right now.

I want my shorts. Ew. And they were apparently like fighting about it. Like Jennifer was like being an asshole about it. She's like, well, Brittany's probably like, dude, you just said I could wear them. And then you waited until I went, like, walked somewhere. Now you're like, I'm not even like when you come back. I'm just going to take them.

No, come now. Right. I don't care what you're doing. Bring them back because I want to wear them out. So she's like, oh, so she's like, I got to go walk back to the hotel and bring her these pants and get a new pair of pants. So she, and again, she was texting Brittany the whole time about it. Right. They all confirmed it.

They could all see it. Now, so she goes and walks back, he's walking back to the hotel. Now, why did none of them walk with her? Because they're- Or why did none of them drive her? They had a car. Yeah. Why would you let this girl at 8.48 p.m. walk back down the strip?

Because guys like that don't give a fuck. These were not her friends. And according to Peter, when he talked to Don Dretzel, he was like, I offered. And she said, I'm fine. And left. And I was like, well, even if she said, I'm fine, like you're saying it. Which I don't think is true. Even if she said it like that, it was because she was having, she was upset.

And she's probably like, whatever, like, just everybody leave me alone. You should have been like, dude, I know like you're having a shitty time. Right. I'll just drive you. You can drop them off and, like, hang with us. Right. Like, you have a fucking heart. Step by step on how to be a good fucking friend.

Like you're 20 years old. Grow the fuck up. You're 20 years old. Think about somebody else. This is a girl that you've been friends with for two years. Like take care of her. Like you should have an instinct to take care of somebody. Like it's just like a younger girlfriend.

And it's not taking anything out of your, you're not sacrificing anything to take care of. Just be like, dude, let me drive you. I just. And even just be like, if she's like, I'm fine, just be like, no, if it's not for your sake, let me because I'm. I don't want you to walk. Yeah. Like, just try to be, be a fucking good guy.

Gentlemen. Yeah. Shaluri is dead. It just annoyed me and I'm like, all four, and the other four guys, none of you, none of you had the instinct. Think about who these people were. Oh, it just drives me nuts. Like, all these people. No club promoter is being like, I'll drive you home, honey, unless it's like for his game.

Exactly. But it's like, God. Yeah. It's just horrible to listen to. Yeah. So 848, she's on camera leaving the hotel. That's like the infamous footage of every. everybody sees of her, like, walking out of the hotel.

Now, she's walking back on the strip, and she's texting John, her boyfriend. And she's telling him, I'm so fucking miserable. I just want to come home. She said, I'm packing up my stuff when I'm getting back in the hotel. I'm just staying in tonight. I want to go to sleep. I want to get up and come home. That was her plan.

My stomach just turned. And John was literally being like, I just try to have fun. Like, I'm sorry, like trying to be like. Supportive. Try to make the best of it. like you're there. I don't know. Like, I can't do anything about it. So he's just trying to help her out. And he said, suddenly, the last text from her was at 8.58 p.m. And he said, and then she stopped responding. Now, again, she left the hotel at 848. So only 10 minutes later, she was not responding.

And do you know, like, how long this walk was? It was like more than 10 minutes. Yeah. This walk would have been, it was like a, I want to say it was like a couple mile walk. So it was longer than 10 minutes for sure. Yeah. It was, it was like a good walk. I was going to say like a half hour. It honestly, I think it was about a half hour walk. So, yeah, so close to that. Meanwhile, probably would have been about a 10 minute drive. Oh, yeah, it would be an easy drive. And so 10 minutes into their conversation, she's already stopped responding. So he's starting to freak out. And he keeps texting her and he's like, Brittany, answer me. Like, what the fuck? And he's starting to like try tactics. Like, he's like, I'm going to call your mom and tell her where you are if you don't answer me. Like that was, he was like,

just fucking answer me. And she's not answering. Right. And when he said that and she stopped answering, he was like, that's, that's weird. Yeah, that is weird. Because I, and then he was like, does she want me to call her mom? Like, is she having that miserable of a time that she almost wants to be outed so that, like, maybe someone can get her or something, I don't know. So he calls Dawn.

And this is at, like, nine something at, like, 9.30 at night. My God. Meanwhile, Dawn thinks that, like, she's just, like, hanging out at a friend's house, like, not far away. Yeah. And he calls Dawn. and he tells her everything. And he says, like, I'm so sorry I didn't tell you, but Britney's in Myrtle Beach, and they don't, and she's not answering my phone, my text. She stopped answering. And he said, I threatened to tell you, and she still didn't answer, like, something's wrong.

And she's been having a horrible time. And of course, Dawn is, like, furious at first, because she's like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, what the hell? I thought she was literally, like, right over there. Right. And then she's like, oh, my God, she's 14 hours away. Right. And then she was like, what do you mean she's not answering your text? And he was like, I can't get a hold of her. I've called her. I've texted her. She's not answering. So good for him too to act that quickly. Thank goodness he's like a good guy. Yeah. Because a lot of people might have taken a little longer and being like, oh, she's just being a bitch. Your high school boyfriend? You would have. Nobody would have known. Ma still wouldn't know. She still wouldn't know. Yeah. He would have just

been like you're a bitch. Yeah. It just would have been that it. But no, John was like something's awry here. John's are good. John's are good. As you know, as I know. As I know. We love it, John. But then, of course, she's in full panic mode, full panic mode, because I can't imagine hearing that. 14 hours away from your baby. And she's, you don't know if she's in danger. Now, mom and John are calling her over and over and over. They're leaving voice messages. And they said it kept ringing. It was like not shut off. Not dead. So they're like freaking out. And they're getting nothing. Oh, my, I am like so stressed. Oh, and it gets better. The mom, so then the mom calls Alana and Jennifer. Yeah.

Because John had their cell phone numbers. Right. Because he was like a good dude and he had all this information. So he hands it over. She calls both of them. Neither of those bitches picked their phone up. And that's not even the thing because it's like whatever they were out. But she left them like hysterical voicemails as Brittany's mother being like, we don't know where she is.

Please help me. They never answered. And they, to this day, they have not spoken to anybody in Brittany's family. So what is it 11 years later now? Cunts. Wow. Yeah. How?

How? Wow. How do you get? I don't give a shit. How old you are? No. And I don't give a shit what you're doing, how you're partying. I don't give a shit.

You get a hysterical voicemail from a mother of a girl that you've been treating like shit on this trip saying nobody heard from her. And the two of you know you don't know where she is? you're not going to sit there and be like, I don't know where she is. At least just give her something. Anything. You just ignore her. And then later you don't even have the, like. Were they questioned at all by police?

Yeah, they were all talked to. But none of them felt the need to be like, we're so sorry. And all these guys, too, that they're with, like, they were questioned too. Yeah. Okay. And I know it's insane. So that bothered me because I don't get, they're over 18. Yeah.

So you're not a child anymore. You're well within the wrong. realm of you should know better. And if a hysterical mother is calling leaving a voicemail, give her a call back. Yeah. Like, come on. Fucking hate high schoolers. Oh, God. I just feel so protective of Brittany. Absolutely. Because we've all been in a position somewhat similar. Yeah, of course. I mean, I know, like, we've said that in another episode. And I think, like, a couple people are like, well, I've never been in that position. I was like, yeah, whatever. Well, then you were that girl. So I don't know what to tell you. And also, like,

whatever. I'm saying we've all in this room. Yeah, we've all in this room. Hello. A lot of people have known this position of wanting to be cool. Yes. And wanting to hang out with the cool girls. Yes. Now, Don spoke with Peter, because Peter did answer the phone. Okay. I will give that to him.

And he said, you know, she left my room. Ten minutes ago. And she stayed for ten minutes. And he said, you know, she was texting with Jennifer and they were in like a fight about shorts. And she stayed for ten minutes. And then she left. That's the last I've seen her. Right.

And he was telling the truth by all accounts. And, you know, he probably thinks it's like this stupid thing. Like boys are always like. like, oh, girls' fights are stupid, which that is a stupid fight. So he's probably like, maybe she like went somewhere to blow off steam. Yeah, and I mean, he had no idea. She just left. Yeah. He didn't know that she went missing after that. Like, she was just doing his thing. So they called the police immediately. And the police couldn't really do a whole lot right there because they couldn't really file a report until somebody had to go there to file the report.

And obviously, these girls aren't going to be any help. So what they did was they luckily had a family friend named John Hahn. In Florida? No, he was, well, they're in North Carolina or South Carolina. Oh. But he was in. Why did I think Myrtle Beach was in Florida? I'm not really sure. I'll leave now. Wait, did you really think it was in Florida? The entire time. Wow. Yeah, I had no idea. Wow. Mertle Beach is in, wow, okay. Actually, you know what's wild? I've been watching a lot of teen mom lately, and Janelle won't shut up about Myrtle Beach. And like, I know that she lived in one of the Carolinas. Carolina, I think. Or North Carolina, I sure. But I mean, damn. All right. Wow. Yeah. That's very, that's very interesting that you thought we're in Florida the whole time. Because I think, I think I think of, uh, fucking spring break. I associate it with Florida. Yeah. I think that's what I mean. That makes sense. But yeah, they were, they were in, uh, well, I'm late to the party. So here we are. And they had a friend John Hahn who was, uh, actually in North Carolina. Okay. So he was about three hours away. Okay. So, so.

Don called him, told him what was going on, and he was like, I will go there right now. I'm going to drive. And he was like, I'm going to drive there. I'll file a report. Wow. What a good guy. What a good guy. Again, John's. Another good guy. Hello. Here we are. So Don was already on her way there. She was like, this is bad. And she said mom's intuition. Did she drive? She said, now, I've heard two different things. I've seen that she was like on her way there, like driving. And then I saw that they flew. So I'm not exactly sure. Maybe the people that said. they were driving, they were driving to the airport. Yeah, maybe. Because, so John Hahn went down and he couldn't find her. He looked for her like he did a brief because while they were coming down, he was like, I better like do a search just to see if I can find anything. Right. He did find out that she had not returned to her hotel room. So, and he couldn't find her. He couldn't get in touch with any of those dicks. So he was like, I'm in a file a missing person's report. So he did. I would have fucking sat in that lobby until Jennifer and Alana got there and been

like, hey, what the fuck is up? Hey. What's up? How are you? What's good, Alana and Jennifer? Literally, again. Makes an appearance in both episodes this week. You know what I want to, I just want to give this family and her, like, boyfriend and all

them such props for moving so fucking fast with this. Seriously. They were on it. And like good family friends. Good family friends. Like, the people around her, like the real people around her really did. Protected her a service by. by doing this.

Absolutely. I was just so impressed that they were just like on it. Yeah. Didn't wait to file. Didn't wait. John didn't wait to call. Like he didn't hesitate at all. He was like, I'm going to call her mom.

Right. It just, I was like, good job, guys. Good job, Drexels and friends. So John Hahn met with police while he was filing the missing persons report. And they decided to try to get in contact with the girls again, no avail. They're not answering. So they go to the room where Brittany was staying. which was room 305.

The room, nobody was in there because they were all out for the night. But all their stuff was in there. They called Alana and finally got Alana on the phone. Oh, okay. Alana said they hadn't seen Brittany and they were like,

that's it. We just haven't seen her. Don't know what to tell you. What the fuck? And when police called Peter and his friends again, the friends say, yeah, like we, because they were like, when did you first meet up with Brittany? Like, you got to tell us what the weekend. And it's been like...

Yeah, we need a timeline here. Yeah, and they said that they first met up with her Friday evening at Club Cryptonite, but it was Thursday evening that they met her at Club Cryptonite. Okay, why? Do you think they mixed up the day? Because I am terrible with days, so I can't tell them, I can't say that I wouldn't mess up the day. But it's also just like... Yeah.

Like, you know, you just don't know. Yeah. Because that is... It's not like this was like a week later. Uh-uh. It was a day later. Uh-huh. I mean, I don't know.

I mean, I thought today was Friday, so... It was just... strange. So, and again, it could just be, they've been partying a lot. They probably don't know what day it is. They also said, you know, they were like, again, we reiterate, we last saw her when she came to get the flip-flops, and that was the last time we saw her. Weirdly, the plan that night they found out from Alana was that Jennifer and Alana were going to be switching hotel rooms for the night on their last night there. Or not hotel rooms, excuse me, hotels. And so they were going to be leaving Brittany in that hotel alone. Why? And Britney had never mentioned that to John. No. So I wonder if

Britney even knew. I don't think she knew. I'm just saying it's shady. That's shady. That is weird. And there's been no explanation given for why they were leaving and going to another hotel on their last night there. That's just such a hassle too. Like there's just no point of that. It makes no sense. Unless you were trying to get away from her for a reason. And then the other thing is she obviously didn't know, 100% because she was telling John this entire time what a horrible time she's having, that would have been a factor. Exactly. She would have been like, and now they're leaving me by myself.

Like I think at that point, she probably would have called Don and been like, I fucked up, please come and get me. Oh, yeah. Or like, flying me home. Yeah, I definitely think that. And then to make this even weirder, that same night around 2 a.m., Peter and his friends abruptly check out of the Blue Water Resort and left to go back to Rochester. Now, they didn't get their deposit.

You said at 2 a.m. At 2 a.m. Okay. In the middle of the night, they left their hotel room and drove back to Rochester after they found out that Brittany was missing. That's weird. They left their deposit and they left some items in the room. Do you know, like what? Just like clothing.

So they got the fuck out of there as fast as possible. And it's like when you're 20 years old, you don't leave your deposit somewhere. Like you need that money at 20. Exactly. And as soon as people. Peter got back to Rochester, he got himself a lawyer, which is suspicious but also smart. So I don't know, it's very suspicious, but it's very smart. Yeah?

Because you were the last person to see her. You should lawyer up. I wonder if his family was like, homie, you were the last person to see her. It doesn't look good. When you leave at 2 a.m., right after police have talked to you because there's a missing girl, you were the last person seen with her, you run out of town. Yeah. Like, you don't think you should stick around and be like, do you need me? Do you need to talk to me some more? I will say, the only thing I'll say is that at 20 years old, I don't know what I would do in that position.

I think I probably would be like, I need to go home. Yeah. I don't know if I would leave at 2 a.m. But then you have to think about the other dingus is in that room and they probably just all came to a dingus conclusion. Because I would be the one in that room being like, all right, guys. It would look weird. But this is going to look real fucked up. Like, you've got to think that. Well, and then you wonder, it's like, what if, what if she comes back to your hotel room? Like, what if she's not gone and, like, she somehow gets away and, you know, the person she feels most comfortable with on this trip? Because you know she hates everybody else. So it's like, I don't know.

It's strange to me. The whole thing is, I'm thinking about, so they knew that she was with Peter because, like, this whole thing could have been like Jennifer was texting Peter. Is she there yet? Yeah. Now I need my shorts right now. Come back right now and give me the shorts. Yep. Yeah. So the next day, Sunday, Dawn, Chad, her biological dad, John, like, flew up.

So many Johns. And her boyfriend, John, and Dawn's parents all went down to Myrtle Beach to search. So they all arrived. They were canvassing the play. I mean, they were handing out, they had already printed flyers. They were handing out flyers. Wow. Talking to everyone they could, talking to law enforcement. Law enforcement had gathered a massive search. I mean, it was on. And what they found out was, you know, they found out all the information. They were finding out that Peter and his friends left at 2 a.m. That's so fucking weird. And then they found out that there's been no activity on Britney's bank account or her card.

There's been no, like no text messages sent from her phone, nothing like that. So when Peter went back to Rochester, because at this point he's already home, like I said, he got a lawyer immediately. He was looked at immediately as a person of interest. They started looking into him in this guys. I know, I don't know. It's like not at all. He was, I will say, by May 7th, he was cleared.

Okay. So not too long, you know, he was cleared. I want to know what cleared him. I want to know too. And I don't know. And what they found out too when they were doing this search was that she wasn't picked up. So she was picked up on the street camera going to the hotel. But she was not picked up on the street camera coming back, which means somewhere in that 10-minute period, she was gone.

Like snagged. Yeah. So they were trying to narrow it down to where it could have happened, but there's no camera footage of it happening. Well, and the other thing is going back to the shorts theory, because you think if she snagged, like somebody grabs her, puts her in a car, this is a busy area. Yeah. So it does seem like maybe these are like the people that she has been connected with or something. Yeah. pick her up in a car, never to be seen again. And that's it. And that's the thing. It's so,

it's so, it's like she vanished into thinner. Because if she was grabbed, you would think, I mean, we've heard it happen before where people are grabbed in the middle of the day. But you would think that it would be a show. Because it's not like this was at like 5 a.m. You know, this is a pretty busy time on the strip. Everything's starting. So I feel like people must be out. Yeah, I mean, nobody's not on the street. Like, what was it, right around 9? Yeah, it was like 9 o'clock. Yeah. So it's like everybody's out then.

Right. People are going to see it. It's like what the fuck out? So was there like a nab and run or was it like get into a car? And a car that she must have known. Yeah. That's what's so strange about this. Now, this is when the investigation takes a scary turn.

Okay. Because her parents are in town. They're going crazy trying to find her, handing out everything. They're talking to everybody. Law enforcement searching. And then they're going through her phone records. They're trying to get anything they can. Right.

Now, what they find out was that they need to shift to Georgetown County, which is 40 miles away. Why? And everybody's like, what the fuck? What do you mean? Did her phone ping? This is because her phone pinged at 927 p.m. that night going south on Route 17. So she's moving.

The phone is moving, at least. And this is on the way to Surfside Beach, which is seven miles away. Now, the speed that this ping was seen, they could tell the speed that it was moving at. It was moving at such a rate that it was in a car. Okay. So they said, you know, at least the phone is in a car, which means she's likely in a car. Now, more pings were at 1018 p.m. And the last one was at 11.58 p.m.

Oh, no. The 11.58 p.m. was the one that was 40 miles away. in a Georgetown County town of McClellanville. McClellanville. McClellanville. McClellanville. Now, it is close to a boat landing. Oh, my God.

Yep. No. And it's on this place called the Santee, the North Santee River. It's in an area, and this is when the phone shuts off. Now, they are terrified at this point because this is just swamp.

Like, there's nothing out here. that you need to be going to. And there's also wild boars, alligators, like bad news. Like, it's not a place you want to be. Oh my God. What the fuck? Now they start and they said that there's just, first of all, the rate at which that phone went there was fast. Was like shooting, it was going straight there. They weren't stopping anywhere. It was like, this is the destination. So somebody knew where they were taking. Right. I was just going to say they know the area. Yeah, it's somebody who definitely knows that area because you're not going to find this place if you don't know where it is. And if you're not used to maybe doing things here. One is it kind of seems like because of the boars and the

alligators, you're dumping a body. It's a great place to bring someone that you never want anyone to see again. Because boars will completely, completely gone. Yeah, boars are really scary. And they focus on this. They start using everything they can to search this area. They were like using helicopters and sniffer dogs and like anything, all the resources they could do. find this. And they searched, so 11 days of searching, they found nothing. They weren't able to find anything. The family had to return home at this point. I can't imagine going home. Yeah. And they're like, we have to regroup. We have to like figure out what to do next. Now, a month after Brittany went missing, something interesting happened in Myrtle Beach. A man named Sean Taylor was arrested for

trying to abduct a 20-year-old girl outside of the Blue Water Resort. Oh, shit. Around 4 p.m. Four p. Jesus Christ. The middle of the day. Like I said, I'm glad I said, you know, it could happen. He and another man, allegedly, because he was let off for this, I should say. Allegedly, he and another man jumped out of a van, tried to grab her when she was walking down the strip.

And why were they let off for that? She escaped and he was arrested, but he was somehow let off because he had an alibi. So, allegedly, he was accused of this. Hypothetically. He was accused of this. Now, a month later, a man named Timothy Deshawn Taylor, who is Sean's son, just saying, was brought in and questioned by the FBI. And he was brought up, but he was brought in because he was brought up by several people in the area that maybe you should look into this guy for Brittany. Yeah.

And so after they spoke to him, they said, you know, he was, they didn't really have anything on him, but they were keeping him in mind, you know, just like he was brought up. Now his name's in the investigation. Now, eight months go by and nothing. It's going cold. Shit's not cool. And then they get a tip. And this tip led investigators to an area near where that phone had pinged, that swamp area, near like Georgetown, McClellanville. I hate this.

They found a pair of sunglasses. Now, what's weird about this is that these sunglasses were brand new. They were not sitting out there for a long time. they weren't dirty. Yeah. Nothing. And you would assume something in a swamp land would be pretty dirty. They didn't look like they were sitting out there for any length of time.

They looked like they were placed there. So people were thinking because then they tested them, there was no DNA on them. So they're clean. So like they're brand new. Or yeah. Because also everybody was like, yeah, I don't think those are Britney's. Like I don't know what those are. But there's a theory that's going around that this was done to lead them away from the real location of the body.

To like make them focus on an area that wasn't the area. Oh, that would be very smart. It's just weird. In a fucked up way. Or it's somebody just being an asshole. Yeah. Because people are assholes and like to involve themselves in these things and like fuck up investigations.

So that could definitely be it. Right. So in 2016 is when things, because everything starts going quiet. There's nothing they found. They just start, she's a missing person. Nobody, no nothing. We go to 2016. Timothy Deshawn Taylor is brought up again.

He was arrested for a robbery of a McDonald's in 2011. He was like the getaway car, I believe. What a character. He served a couple of years probation, but the other people that were involved here got like prison time. So the FBI brought him back in to chat with him because they were like, I think we can like, because he shouldn't have gotten two years probation. He should have gotten more like the other people. Right. And so they kind of used that to bring him in to talk to him about Brittany again.

Yeah. Because they were like, his name is brought up again. So they're like, let's just talk to them again. And they were just like, we just want to chat with you. That's all. And so at this same time that this is being done, an inmate at a prison nearby named Tequan L. Brown sent a letter to prison officials saying, I know you're talking to Timothy Deshaun Taylor.

Let me tell you what I know. What? And what he said is he said, I know what happened to Brittany Drexel. What the fuck happened? And he said it involved a period of time being held captive, an assault, a gun, and alligators. And so they were like, okay, let's chat with you. So he said the people involved in this happened to be Timothy Deshaun Taylor and his father,

Sean Taylor. So what he said, and this is terrible, so just want to lay that out, trigger warning, he said back in 2009, when Brittany went missing, he said he went to a stash house in McClellanville. That's apparently where, like, there's. guns and drugs and you sell things from there. You keep your stash there. A stash, if you will. He was going there in McClellanville, which happens to be the place where her phone pings.

Just want to put that out there. He was going there to do a deal with Sean Taylor, like an exchange of goods and money. He went there, so he went through the house, and he said as he walked through the house, he saw Brittany in that house being held against her will. she was being sexually assaulted by Timothy Deshawn Taylor and about eight to 12 other men in the house. Oh, God. No, no, no, no, no. He said he went to the back because you just ignore that because you're there for your thing. Well, you're a shady character.

And you go back, he met with Sean Taylor outside. He said they were doing their exchange and he said they're just talking. And then Brittany ran from the house trying to escape. And he said the men came out, grabbed her. They said that she was. beaten with a pistol, like pistol whipped, brought back into the home and then killed with two gunshots. And they said, he said that he saw her, he saw them bring her body out, wrapped up, and throw her into a pit of alligators. He saw them throw a body into a pit of alligators and didn't say anything until years later. Exactly.

He also said that he knew she was held a couple of days and was trafficked, like being sold out to other men because when her disappearance had drawn such media attention that the tailors got scared and were planning to kill her anyways because they were like, this is too high profile. Oh my God. Yeah. One, it was a while, it was like a couple days after she went missing or a month after she went missing that the ping happened? No, the ping happened only like the day, like a couple days after.

Okay. Yeah. So for a period of time, it could have just been a couple days that they were driving her to this location. Oh yeah, and the FBI now, which we're going to get into in part two. I'm going to go further into what they think now. They say that they know that she was held for a period of a couple days before being killed. So everything that this guy is saying is could be weirdly like accurate. And there's other witnesses that have come forward and said and corroborated this account. Now, that's horrific. My mouth is literally just like, I hope that's not what happened.

I hope that's not what happened. And just as a last. thing before we stop before part two is Brittany's father, Chad Drexel, said later he said he was out there handing out flyers in Myrtle Beach when they first went down and he said he was on a dirt road and he stopped a car because he was stopping cars like handing them flyers yeah and he said like most people were taking them and being like very respectful and he said he stopped this car oh sorry I keep hitting it because I'm like flailing you talk with my hands I'm sorry it's okay um so he hands this flyer to these people in this car. And he said it was a bunch of guys in a car. And he said, you know, the two, he said the guys in like the back were like whispering to each other. And these

guys were as he's explaining like, do you see this girl? Have you seen this girl? And then he said, I'm her father. She's missing. Like, can you help? Like, if you know her or if you've seen her, can you just call? Like, we're just trying to give this to everybody. And he said, the guys in the back were laughing. And he's like, it was very weird. And he said, the driver took the flyer. crumpled it up, threw it at him, and then drove away, and they all were laughing as they drove away. Did he get a license plate or anything? Well, before driving off, he said he later found out from the FBI. Because he explained who the guy, like, what he looked like, any, like markings or anything.

Sean Taylor. And the FBI, I was like, that was Sean Taylor. Or Deshaun Taylor, excuse me. His son. Timothy Deshaun Taylor. And he was like, well, wait, how do you know? And he said, well, he said, it's funny that, you know, the FBI were like, that's funny that you bring this up to us, because Timothy DeShone Taylor told us that he met you.

Dude, dude, what the fuck? So it's confirmed. Dude, this makes me, that makes me want to, like, start sobbing. Right. I actually feel like I'm going to start crying. Because, like, that, I feel like that's what happened. I feel like that's what happened, too, and it's really hard. And to be that fucking evil. To be that cold and callous and evil. Even if you didn't do it, like, even if, like, Somehow he has nothing to do with it. Even if you had nothing to do with it, you're an evil person for reacting that way to a father handing you a missing person's poster. This case is absolutely gut-wrenching. And there was an interview with Chad and Don. And Chad relayed that story of meeting him. And so the interviewer was like, so you believe that you met Timothy Deshaun

Taylor. And he was like, oh, no, I know I met Timothy Deshaun Taylor. Because the FBI told me I did. And it's like, what the fuck? First of all, my arm. are covered in goosebumps right now. And second of all, I, I'm like shook right now. It's, it's horror. And so what we're going to do is we're going to end here because part two, we're going to talk about the FBI investigation and what has happened recently to kind of just open this case up. And again, that's going to be like an ad-free episode. But I have so many questions. Yeah. And I want to go further into what they've been working on. In some of the interviews with Timothy, Deshawn Taylor and like all this. So yeah. I think this is just a lot of bad people and she was

in a very terrible situation that she was, she couldn't get out of. It's just, it's a horrific. And poor, her poor mother is like, in her, and Chad and everybody and like her biological father, John, they've also, like, John fully is like, I don't want to believe that's. No. It's got to be something else. Like, I can't, I can't wrap my brain around that. I can't fathom that as a father. This is like one of those like shows like this is like unsolved mysteries like a show that's on there. Or a case excuse me that's on there. I'm like so shook right now. I feel like I can't even form a thought. But that you just watch and you're like, I need to know what happened. It's so much.

Like this is right up there now in my mind with like Elisa Lam and Champonet Ramsey. Oh yeah. I got to know. I got to know. And the FBI thinks they know. And we'll get into. it in part two, like what they think and everything. Is Timothy DeShanning custody? Yes. Okay. So, yeah, and we'll get into all of that in part two. I'm not, I need to get through it now. I feel like all of you. I need to know right now. Don't worry. It's coming within the day. I'm getting it. I'm getting it right after this.

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