Morbid - Betty Broderick Minisode
Episode Date: February 20, 2019Oh Betty. Ash's minisode features a tale that will take you on a true roller coaster of emotions. Although, we are willing to bet that we all will come to the same conclusion in the end, it will be a ...real journey. Oh, Betty. Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hey, weirdos. I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And this is morbid. The minisode.
Mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, morbid. Mini Morbid, mini morbid. It's a mini episode and it's Ash centric.
Woo! Welcome to another minisode, guys. I know. We've done like a lot of minisodes now. I know. We've done like a lot of minisodes now. I know. It's fun. Yeah. It is fun.
This has been fun. I'm glad we added these on to our repertoire.
Repetoir.
Exactly.
So mine, well, I think it's going to be long, but I talk fast, so who really knows?
I was thinking that. When you said it's going to be long, I was like, I bet it's going to be like half what she thinks it's going to be because she talks so fast.
That's always what happens. I just like, I talk so quickly.
That's good, though. I just, I can't help it.
Yeah, you get it out.
Yeah, you know, just like get into it. So do you want to just like go right into it?
Yeah, this is a minisode. We don't have any shit to talk about in this. We just go right into it.
We got no business. We're going to thank our Patreon's next week.
Exactly.
So let's just fucking do this.
Let's do this.
All right. So my minisode this week, I'm going to see if you can guess it before I say anything.
I know, because I'm excited. This is so fun every week.
It's so fun. So do you know what my favorite lifetime movie is?
Like Lifetime movie based on a real crime case?
Ooh, that's a tough one.
Just take like a guess.
Is it one about like a cheerleader being murdered?
Shut up, no.
I was being serious.
She wasn't murdered.
She robbed the bag.
Sorry.
You can have one more guest.
Okay, one more guess.
I'm having trouble because I'm thinking of like the ones that I've seen.
Is it one about like a call girl?
No.
No.
Okay, cool.
So, Betty Broderick.
Oh.
was born Elizabeth and Basiglia, I think.
I don't really know how you say her original last name, but it's not important.
It's not important.
It's not important.
It's fine.
She was born on November 7th, 1947.
She grew up in Eastchester, which is a suburb of New York City, and she was the third
of six children.
It's a lot of children.
Yeah, but it was like pretty regular, like blah, blah, blah, boring, boring.
So she says that she was, quote,
raised to be a housewife from the day she was born. Oh, that's no good. Which like, no thanks.
I mean, if you, if you decide to be a housewife, that's great. Oh, but if you're raised to be one,
I feel like that's not, that's not good. Never good. She also put it, she also put it that she was raised to
go to Catholic school, be careful dating until you find a Catholic man, support him while he works,
and be blessed in your later years with beautiful grandchildren. Woof. Or as I like to say, fuck that.
Yikes. I was not raised that way.
Nope. Definitely not.
So hashtag no, thank you.
Nope.
So Betty was just living her life, doing the damn thing.
She went to college.
And she met Daniel Broderick the third in 1965 when she was at a party at Notre Dame.
She didn't go to Notre Dame.
But her and her friend took a road trip and went to Notre Dame.
Good for her.
Went to a party.
Yeah.
You know, living the college life, go into college football games, and then parties follow.
them. Yeah. Living that Catholic life. Hell yeah. Oh, Jesus. She was a freshman and he was a senior
and he introduced himself to her by writing his name on a napkin. So on the napkin he wrote
Daniel T. Broderick, M.D.A. And he told her that MDA stood for medical doctor almost. Wow.
Which is like, really? If somebody did that, I would be like, I have to go real quick.
see you later.
My Uber has actually been waiting and I really can't afford a one-star review, so I'm going to go.
So we have to go.
I know that it's 1965 and you don't know what Uber is, but I'm from the future.
And then you zap their mind clear of the experience.
I created Uber for this very moment right here.
Yeah.
Because you know what?
Super cool that you're going to be a medical doctor and like totally brag about it in different ways, but like don't do that.
Yeah, do it in different ways, but not this one.
And also, it's like, you're pre-med.
Like, settle down.
You have about 400 more years left before you're an MD.
But he was on the right path.
He had just been accepted to Cornell Medical School in New York.
Oh, so he's doing the damn thing.
He was doing the damn thing.
Yeah.
So the story goes that the two met and Dan, after they met, was already telling people that he was going to marry Betty someday.
That's sweet.
Like, she was it.
thought she was so beautiful, so pretty, and that they'd make a successful power couple.
I mean, that's what you look for. I mean, hell, yeah. Four years later, they got married in
April of 1969. Nice. Probably right when he was graduating medical school. Exactly. So Betty became
pregnant during or shortly after their honeymoon, and she gave birth to their oldest child, Kim,
nine months after they got married. Damn. Or nine months after their honeymoon. Just moving right along.
Yeah. The couple had five children.
children together, two daughters, Kim and Lee, two sons, Daniel and Rhett, I think is how you say it.
It's R-H-E-T-T-T. Yeah, that's Rhett. Sounds like a rich name. Yeah. And they also had another child
that was a boy, but unfortunately he passed away like two days after he was born. Oh, that's terrible.
Which is really sad. Yeah. But Dan finished medical school and then he actually attended Harvard
law. It became a lawyer. Jesus. Yeah. And he was doing all this, like going to medical
school. It's a lot. It's a lot, Dan. That's a lot, Dan. So he was, like, take it down. He was going to
medical school and then he attended Harvard and Betty was, like, taking care of all the kids and the
house, supporting the family, like working multiple jobs. She was like, she was doing a lot.
She's a little tired. A little tired. Yeah. So in 1973, Dan accepted a job at a really prestigious
law firm in San Diego. But he made a shit ton of money working on medical.
malpractice suits.
Ooh, that's where the money is.
Mm-hmm.
Well, and he knew, too, because, like, he had medical background and law background.
Oh, yeah.
So he made so much money that he started calling himself,
Count da money.
I mean, I'm going to need that to be erased from history because...
Dan was really smooth.
Dan, Dan just needs...
He needs some time.
He needs some time.
He needs some space.
He needs some more nutrients.
I don't know.
Like something's going on with the end.
That's no good.
Well, maybe he needed a nose job, which he bought himself with all the money that he was making.
Hey, I mean, I have a deviated septum.
I would love to get that fixed.
I get that.
So he started making all this money, started calling himself count a money, got a nose job, bought
like hand-tailored suits, and they were just like living their best fucking life.
I wonder if he just like stood there with his money.
Sometimes it was like $100.
dollars. Ah, ah, ah. $200. Because he was count the money. I'm screaming. But now he was making enough
to support them all. So Betty was able to quit her job slash jobs. And she was basically like a stay-at-home
mom. She was just supposed to take care of the kids and like focus on that and being a wife.
And just get that money. Yeah. So her husband can count a money. So they became like very well-known
socialites in San Diego. Betty was known in the community as a super-brose.
mom, parents loved her, the neighborhood kids loved her. People thought her and Dan were so fabulous
and, like, they had it all. It's never good when that happens. I feel like it never leads anywhere good.
Nope. But they bought a home in, I think you say La Jolla, California? I think so. Sounds good.
It looks like La Jolla, but I bet it's not La Jolla. Yeah, I think you're right. It's La Jolla, I think.
Yeah. So yeah, they bought a home there. They had a membership at an elite country club and more money than they even knew
what to do with. People said
that he would go on shopping sprees and there
was like no budget whatsoever. She could just spend
however much money she wanted.
My brain won't even compute that.
I don't even know what I would
do with all that. Like I would be
so well dressed.
It would just be great.
I feel like people like that aren't well dressed
because they have too much money so
they just like it just
swings the pendulum to the other side.
And when you have that much money
you start dressing like a trash bag.
because it's just like, it's true. Yeah, it just becomes too much. It looks like they had everything,
but they really didn't. And beneath it all, the couple started to have a lot of issues.
I'm shocked. And they had issues pretty much from the start. There isn't a lot known about the
child that Betty lost after Childworth, but she also suffered from two miscarriages after that.
Oh, God. And not to mention, like, the whole time that Dan was in school, she was supporting their
entire family. Yeah. And, I mean, that's a lot. Well, yeah, that's a lot. Well, yeah, that's a lot.
the thing. She said that he spent hours out, like, after work, drinking with his co-workers,
and he would say that it was networking and that he was climbing, like, a legal ladder, and
this is just what he had to do. No way, man. No, you're out with your friends, and I'm home
with your kids. And it's like, she's been home all day with, like, five kids or four kids,
however many it is. She's working, like, how many jobs and you can't even come home and, like,
relieve her, like, let her, quote, unquote, like, climbing the legal ladder. Yeah, that's
ridiculous. So they fought constantly, and sometimes it actually got violent. On one occasion,
she threw a ketchup bottle at him. And then on another occasion, he got so pissed that he threw
an empty aquarium over the second floor balcony of their home. Holy shit. Which like, also, who just
has, like, an empty aquarium? I was just going to say, did he just, like, find one or did he, like,
conjure one? What happened? Maybe they got a new aquarium and the old one was just, like, the perfect
thing to throw across the fucking yard. Yeah.
He is count a money. Who knows what special powers he has?
Count a money. Count a aquariums. Count it all.
But their oldest daughter Kim said that, quote, mom was always kind of weird.
Mom would always get mad at dad all the time. Once mom picked up the stereo and literally threw it at him.
Whoa. And she locked him out constantly.
Jesus. So they were like volatile. I'd say so.
Yeah. Betty threw threats of divorce at Dan like all the time. But she didn't actually
actually want a divorce, she just used it as an empty threat. Because, like, without him,
she wouldn't have this picture perfect life of, like, the stay-at-home housewife. And, like,
that was her identity. Yeah, and that was what she was raised to be. Yeah, that's what she was
raised to be. That's all she knew. And also, they were both Catholics, and they took their
bows, like, really seriously. Oh, yeah, that whole thing. Yeah. And they were both, like,
raised Catholic, so. Oh, whof. It's a big deal. Because that, that brings, like, guilt into it. That's not
just like we love each other and we want to stay together. It's like, oh no, God will smite us if we don't.
Literally. That's like real serious. Because like I take my vows real seriously, but I don't bring
smiting into it or anything. Yeah, I'm all set with that shit. So things were about to get worse.
Oh. On November 22nd, 1983, Betty went to Dan's office with a bottle of champagne and a dozen roses.
And I know that sounds really great. It does.
It's going to be awesome.
I think it's going to be great.
It's going to be fucking awesome.
I can't wait for you to hear what happens.
So it was Dan's 39th birthday, and she planned on surprising him,
hoping that it would kind of salvage their marriage.
She was, like, doing a nice gesture.
But when she got to the office, she didn't find Dan there.
Uh-oh.
Instead, she found an empty office with remnants of a chocolate cake, an empty bottle of wine,
two glasses, and birthday decorations everywhere.
where. Ooh, child. So she asked one of the office secretaries, like, where the fuck is my husband
and who drank this bottle of wine with him. And the office assistant told Betty that Dan had left
around lunchtime with his assistant, Linda. Oh, Linda. Linda. Linda, Linda. Oh, man. So
I feel Betty's rage right now. I feel it. Oh, yeah. Wait until you hear what she does.
The assistant that Betty had speculated Dan was having an affair with for the past few months was Linda.
God damn, Linda.
Yeah, no boy, no.
So Betty waited in the office all night for Dan to come back, and he never did.
So she drove on.
Oh, yeah, but don't worry.
I'm just thinking of that, though, like sitting there with champagne and, like, and roses, just waiting for him to come back and he's not coming back because he's with Linda.
She wasn't about to get sad, though.
was about to get even. So she drove home and she went inside and she gathered all his pants and all his
suits and all his nice clothes and she put them in the front lawn and she set them all on fire.
Hey, that's what you do. I see nothing wrong with this so far. In the Lifetime movie, I literally made
Annie watch it with me the other night and she was like, this is incredible. As she strikes the match,
She goes, liar, liar, pants on fire.
Oh.
And just tosses the match onto the clothing.
That, even if that didn't happen, it happened.
Like, that happened.
Because that is phenomenal.
I literally wrote in my notes.
I really hope this actually happened.
Because you know if she didn't really say that as she threw that match, she's like, shit, missed opportunity.
She said that, literally.
That was great.
The Lifetime movie is incredible.
I got to see this now.
But anyway, Dan denied and denied and denied.
that he was having an affair with Linda.
And he told Betty that she was crazy, that she was imagining things.
Of course.
Whenever a dude says you're crazy and imagining things, you have it.
You're not crazy.
You have everything in fact.
Everything you think you think is thought and right.
Yeah, exactly.
So according to Betty, he was growing bored of her and often called her old, fat, boring, ugly, and stupid.
Oh, my God.
Which is really sad.
She says that it was all...
It's literally.
It's time.
Well, I'm careful what you were.
She says it was all part of a methodical campaign to drive her insane.
So eventually the marriage became unsalvageable to Dan, and he moved out of the house in February of 1985.
He left Betty with the kids.
Oh.
So he was like, huh.
Fuck you, buddy.
And she dropped the kids off at his house, thinking that he would finally see how much work went into raising them.
and that he'd have like a newfound respect for her.
Oh, Betty.
It's not how that works.
It didn't really work out like that.
Dan realized that this was an advantage for him because now he had the kids, which she
voluntarily turned over and he could use that against her.
Yep.
That was a dumb move, Betty.
Apparently she, Dan is like, he sounds like a dick in the beginning of this, but Betty
is like that shit fucking crazy.
Well, yeah.
And if you're just going to like leave your kids with this dude, like, you're using your
kids as leverage and pawns and stuff.
Like, that's, that's messed up.
Well, listen to how she dropped them off.
She dropped off the oldest one, Kim, on Easter after Kim had asked her to drive, like,
her friend home.
Like, her friend must have been over.
And she was like, hey, can you drive my friend home?
And Betty literally, like, just lost her shit and was like, no, like, blah, blah,
like freaking out.
And literally went, pack your bags.
So Kim packed her bags.
And Betty drove her to her dad's house.
Oh, my God.
And he wasn't there.
and she just left her on the doorstep and she literally had to wait like hours and hours for her dad to get home.
That is the worst thing I've ever heard. I hate Betty now. This is such a roller coaster.
So that happened on Easter. Then a few days later. How old was Kim? Do you know? Like how old the kids are?
She was like around like 16, I would say. She was the oldest. 16 or 17.
Danny arrived the same way a few days later. And he was young. He was probably like maybe like 10 when this happened.
Oh my God.
And then Rhett and Lee came a few months later. Kim says they were hysterical holding on to her crying and screaming.
That's literally the worst thing I've ever heard. It's really awful.
This kind of stuff makes me so mad. It's like...
Yeah, because like, don't use your kids as a pawn.
When people like ruining their children's psyches for just selfish, it's like, I can't understand you.
It's messed up. Ugh.
So, like I said, Betty thought that if she stopped being like the quote, perfect housewife that
Dan would see that she meant business and somehow gain more respect for her. So delusional.
Yeah, she was very delusional. Yeah. And obviously that didn't go to plan. And she kind of just
went on a downward spiral very, very quickly. You don't say. In June, she went to the family
home and trashed Dan's bedroom. She shattered mirrors and spray painted black paint everywhere.
Wow. So then on September 23rd, Dan filed for divorce. That's about time.
After that, he said, Betty returned to the home two more times.
One time, she took a Boston cream pie, which I don't know if this is true or not, this part that I'm about to say, in the movie Linda baked the pie.
I don't know if she actually did or not.
But this part is true that she went and took the pie into the master bedroom, like Dan's room, and smeared it all over his clothes and all over his, like furniture, like, just like smeared the pie everywhere.
Well, that's just, that makes me mad because Boston Cream Pie is great.
I'm like, that's just psychotic.
How dare you waste one?
So she just, like, ruined all his shit.
What?
It's like, dude, you lit his clothes on fire.
Move on.
Like, you did what you had to do.
You got it out.
Well, you're just, this is like giving him ammo.
Of course.
You're never getting your kids back again.
Just chill.
So that happened.
And then the second time that she broke in,
she threw bottles of wine through two windows and smashed a sliding glass door.
Oh, my God.
How did I suddenly get to be on Dan's side in this? I'm very, I'm all confused. It's very wishy-washy. Yeah, my emotions are just everywhere. They will. So at this point, Dan gets a temporary restraining order, which orders Betty to stay 100 yards from the house, his car, and his office. But that didn't mean shit to Betty. And she violated the order by swinging an umbrella through a large picture window and broke into their house and smashed their brand new toaster.
Why?
She was mad.
Like, was she like, now you get no toast.
She, I think it was more like, your toast, buddy.
You don't need a toaster.
Your toast.
I like it.
And you have, like, the whole thing is that she thought that he was having an affair with Linda for all this time and that, like, he was trading her in for like a younger model.
Yeah.
Because if you look at pictures, actually Linda does kind of resemble Betty when she was younger.
Oh.
Which is like, no, boy, no.
And he was 40 and he had just bought like a red corvette. And she was like, yeah, you're having like a midlife crisis.
So she's like your midlife crisis wife. Yeah, but he was like, yeah, you're having like a midlife episode and I think you need to be committed.
It's like you literally need to be somewhere. Yeah. So after all that.
But she's doing all this stuff with her kids around. It's like you're really messing your kids up for life here.
Oh yeah. Her kids. Actually, I didn't get a chance to watch this yet, but they are on Oprah. There's like an interview with them in Oprah.
and I'm going to watch it directly after this.
Oh, damn.
And I suggest you all do the same after you watch the Lifetime movie.
Of course.
So in February 1986, Dan sold the family home against Betty's wishes.
He did this by using some law procedure, which obviously like he knew about, but it was like a very like
not well-known procedure that permitted a judge to sign over Betty's half.
Wow.
So Dan claimed that he did this after Betty refused.
to sign papers two times, even after he followed her advice in choosing the real estate agent,
and after he literally bought her a home and, what did I say, it's called, La Jolla.
Oh, yeah.
La Jolla, for $650,000.
Whoa.
He bought her a $650,000 home.
It's like, okay, Betty, time to move on.
So.
Take that house and just move on.
Yeah, but she was pissed when she found out that Dan had sold the home without her consent.
I mean, which like I'd be mad too.
I get that.
But then I would just drive to my $650,000 home and get over it.
And it's like you're not really displaying behavior that, you know, makes it easy for us to work with you here.
Right.
Well, just wait because she drives to the home to confront Dan.
And Dan's like, yeah, I don't want to talk to you.
Please get off my property.
So she does what any rational girl would do.
She drives her Chevy through the front door of his mansion.
Yeah, I mean, what other option was there?
Literally no other options.
What other option did she have?
Yeah, there's nowhere else to go.
You just go straight.
She drove her fucking car through his house.
And I'm pretty sure her kids were home.
They were in the lifetime movie.
And how did she know that the kids weren't in front of the door?
I mean, she just killed all her kids at once.
When I was watching the movie, all the kids are home and Dan is like yelling at them.
also Dan is played by the father of seventh heaven, which is like, no
Bueno, because he's a child minister.
Yeah, I was just going to say that's really no Buono.
He's like yelling at all of them to go upstairs.
But that's what I thought.
I was like, how did you not know, like, if your kids were there?
Yeah, you don't know if your kid was just walking out the front door or was close to it.
But she was just like past the point of rationality.
Yeah, she's just blind insanity.
So after she drove her car through his front door, he, like, flipped out and like went to pull her out of the car.
and I don't know why, but he wanted to.
And as he was doing this, she reached under the passenger seat and pulled out a large butcher's knife.
Jesus.
Somehow he restrained her.
The police were called and she was apparently taken away in a straight jacket.
So she was like so out of control that they had to restrain her with a straight jacket.
That's a lot.
And after that, she spent only three days in a San Diego County Mental Health Hospital.
That doesn't surprise me.
Which...
Just because of how mental health is treated.
Yeah, it's true.
But, like, you literally drove your fucking car through your children's home.
Whoa.
Whoa.
So then, in July 1986, Dan and his attorney go to court to finalize the divorce.
Betty didn't have a lawyer because she claimed that no one in the area would represent Dan Broderick's ex-wife.
But through the whole process of, like, their divorce and everything, she hired five lawyers and fired all five of them.
There was probably very good reason for each one.
Yeah.
Very sane, very solid reasons.
So the divorce got finalized and Dan got sole custody of the children and Betty received no formal visitation rights.
Good.
Yeah.
So if she wasn't pissed before, she was super pissed now.
Yeah.
She called Dan's house repeatedly leaving like really crude messages on his answering machine, using like really gross nicknames for Dan and his new girlfriend.
Who was Linda?
She called her the C word on like multiple occasions, called her like the office whore.
Oh, man.
Really awful things.
So Dan was paying at this point, he was paying Betty, $16,000 a month in alimony.
Wow.
Yeah.
So he started to find her for all the shitty things that she was doing.
He wrote her a letter and said that for every obscene word he was charging her $100.
$250 for every time she stepped foot on his property, $500 for every entry into his home,
and $1,000 for every time she took one of the kids without his permission.
Oh, my God. I can't believe you even had to do that.
Yeah. So one month, Betty claimed that Dan fined her so many times that her total, like, alimony was negative $1,300.
Like, she fucked up that many times.
I believe it. I believe it.
But Betty says that Dan and Linda were equally as awful.
She said she once received a photo of Dan and Linda with the caption,
Eat Your Heart Out bitch.
So, like, she thought that, like, Linda sent that.
And she also said that she was, like, getting all these flyers for, like, skin serums and, like, weight loss medicines.
And she thought that, like, it was Linda's doing.
Oh, my God.
Can you imagine?
Like, she was, like, you're old and fat.
Can you imagine?
It really does sound like a fucking, like, Beverly Hills Housewife competition.
It does. Like, this is bonkers.
Linda's friends deny that Linda was, like, evil or mean in the ways that Betty was.
But Kim, Betty's oldest daughter, the one from Easter, confirms that Linda did refuse to return Betty's wedding China after Betty requested it.
Oh, and that's low.
Yeah. So she definitely stooped to her level at some points.
So Linda's a bit of a bitch or so. I guess. But her and Dan were happy together.
And friends say, friends of the couple say that Linda brought.
out a softer side of Dan. They got engaged in June of 1988. But at this point, Betty was still
calling herself Mrs. Broderick and refused to give up her married name. Oh, damn. And she was still
leaving like really obscene messages on the answering machine. So this is a phone conversation that
she had with her son, Danny, who was 11 years old at the time. So she was like in the middle of picking up,
or she was in the middle of leaving a message on the phone and he picked up and said,
you guys are separated mom and he likes somebody else now. He doesn't like you anymore. And I mean,
if you got you got to stop saying the bad words. And then Betty says, why doesn't he like me
anymore to her 11 year old son? Oh, God. We stop talking to your 11 year old. I make a post this.
And Danny's like crying throughout this whole conversation. And he says, because you've been, he's sick of you
because you guys get in all these fights.
And Betty goes, why do we get in all these fights?
Oh my God.
She's literally making this kid like spit it out.
And then Danny goes, I don't know.
And Betty goes, because he was fucking his secretary.
Like this is recorded.
Are you kidding me?
You can hear the conversation between the two of them.
And Danny goes, even before that, you got into fights mom.
And then Betty goes, I don't think so, Danny.
See, you didn't know he was fucking his secretary for the last years that we were married.
And then Danny says, we want to live with you, but you're just making it harder for all of us that want to live over there.
If you stop saying bad words, everyone will be happier.
At least I know I will.
Oh my God.
That just hurt my soul in so many ways.
That ruined my life.
It's so sad.
But don't worry because later on, they use it to prosecute her acid trial.
Good.
Because I'm horrified right now.
So after that, Betty claimed that Dan and Linda were ruining her children.
Oh, yeah.
It's them who are running your children.
Girl, you definitely have a hand and stir in the pot, too.
Yeah.
Their younger daughter, Lee, dropped out of high school, and Dan disowned her and formally wrote her out of his will.
So, that's all that's known about that.
He means business. He also asked Kim to move out when she turned 18, but later he, like, chilled out and paid her college tuition.
That's pretty chill.
It seemed like they had, like, all the kids had a rocky relationship with both parents.
Yeah.
I mean, it makes sense.
they grew up with like all this crazy violence in their house.
Exactly. That's why I'm so interested to watch them sit down with Oprah.
Yeah.
But Betty was mostly focused at this point on getting custody of Rhett and Danny because they were 11 and 14, respectively, like at this point.
Okay.
And they seem to gravitate toward their mom.
A friend of the family says that in between visits with their mom, they always stayed in contact through the phone.
So after Linda and Dan got engaged in April, they got married.
in April of 1989 in the front yard of Dan's Mansion. He hired private undercover security guards,
but he refused to wear a bulletproof vest like Linda had request. Like, she literally was worried that
he was going to get shot on her wedding day. I would be too. Well, news had spread that Betty had
bought a revolver. Oh, yeah. Then I'd be like you're wearing one. And she'd been threatening like time and time
again to kill them, like all the time. Oh, yeah. But, um,
Dan told his friends that he doubted Betty would kill her, quote-unquote, golden goose,
which I guess means like the dude that pays all her shit.
Yeah.
So, but Linda wasn't quite sure.
She had asked a lawyer on numerous occasions to prepare papers to get a restraining order against Betty.
But Dan wouldn't let her file them.
So his friend, Ned Huntington, said she was the mother of his children and he really didn't take the strong measures he could have taken.
He didn't want to, he didn't want the guilt of being punitive towards.
her, so he let her get away with a lot of atrocious acts. He just wouldn't punish her.
Oh, see, that's your mistake, man. Yep. So, seven months after the wedding, for some reason,
Betty finally hit her last breaking point. She drove to Dan's house at 1041 Cypress Ave and entered
the home using a key that she'd stolen from her daughter Lee. She quietly snuck upstairs to the
couple's bedroom and shot Linda first in the head and then the chest, and then shot Dan, who was hit in the
chest as he was searching or as he was reaching for the phone. Dan was 44 and he was only 17 days shy of his
45th birthday. And Linda was 28. What? Yep. And also it was two days before Betty's birthday.
Oh my God. So she on before she left, she unplugged the phone from the wall and flood the house.
But later that day she turned herself into police. And she never denied that she pulled the trigger,
but she denied that she planned on killing them.
She said that she went there because she wanted to talk to them and she wanted to kill herself in front of them.
But that Linda had like rolled over and she got startled.
Which it's like.
Yeah, I definitely buy that.
Nope, not true.
No, you definitely went there to murder them.
Yeah.
So during the first trial, Betty's lawyer, Jack Early, represented her as a battered woman who'd been pushed to the brink after years of verbal and emotional abuse.
The prosecutor, Carrie Wells, portrayed Betty, as a murderer who planned to kill her husband and was the very opposite of a battered woman.
She'd been getting $16,000 a month in alimony and was living in a $650,000 home that the victim had bought her.
Seriously.
Like, you're not a battered woman.
Like, you're doing okay, Betty.
And Betty's whole thing was that, like, she was so battered and he just wanted to ruin her life and, like, her life was nothing.
But she had a boyfriend and they were doing, like, this.
trial thing where Rhett and Danny were like living with her, like, like as a trial.
Like he was going to give her custody of them. So the two sons were at her house at the time that
she killed their dad and Linda. Oh my God. So the first trial ended with a hung jury because two
jurors held out for a conviction of manslaughter as opposed to second degree murder because
they didn't think that she planned the murder.
They thought that because...
But to me, it's like, just the fact that she stole the key from her daughter in order to get in the house gives me all I need to know.
Because she wasn't willing to set up a meeting with them.
She was going in the dead of night when they didn't know.
It was 5 o'clock in the morning.
Yeah, when you're at your most vulnerable.
And then she also unplugged the phones when she left.
So they couldn't even call for help.
So she was looking to kill them.
And that's what they used, too, is like, her unplugging the phone.
Yeah.
Because the whole thing was that these two jurors wanted to convict her of manslaughter,
since they didn't think that she planned the murder,
because I guess second-degree murder has to come with premeditation.
Second-degree murder, you don't need premeditation.
You need malice of forethought.
Oh, so what does that mean?
So pre-meditation is for first-degree murder,
but malice of forethought is when you have intent.
So for second-degree murder, you would need to...
intent there, but you don't necessarily
need preparation. Okay.
A mistrial was declared and Betty was
retried a year later with the same prosecutor
and the same defense lawyer.
This time she was
convicted on two counts of second degree murder
and she was sentenced to
two consecutive years of 15
years to life plus two years
for the illegal use of a firearm.
So she's in prison for
32 years to life. Good.
She's been incarcerated since the day
that she committed the murderers, the
the murders. And her first request for parole was in January of 2010. And it was denied because she,
quote, did not show remorse and did not acknowledge any wrongdoing. So that bitch is still
hanging on to like, yeah. Oh my God. Literally, you can watch like tons and tons of interviews with her.
And she is not sorry at all. Like, she does not give a fuck. That's so fuck. Because her whole thing
is that she's like a battered woman. But there's just like so much evidence that like she was
also like fucking bananas, like the fact that she like drove all her kids to his house and left
them there. And then I also read on one occasion that she, her older daughter, or excuse me,
her younger daughter Lee was like kind of like a brat growing up apparently, according to the older
daughter Kim. And she one time was like, oh, like your spankings don't hurt like when I get in trouble.
So she was like, oh, like never say that. Yeah, literally. Also like maybe don't stink your kids. But
personal preference, I don't agree with that at all with spanking kids, but...
I don't either.
But apparently she was like, okay, well, then next time you get in trouble, I'm going to hit you with a fly swatter.
So she chased her around the backyard and the, like the fly swatter, like the screen of it fell off.
So it was literally just the wire thing.
And she was literally beating her with like the wire thing.
Oh my God.
And she had like waltz all over her.
Oh, that's awful.
So Betty was fucking crazy from the start.
Seriously, she was the worst.
And she, like, the kids said that she would pick fights with Dan all the time.
Yeah, I'm totally on Dan's side now, which I did not think was going to happen in the beginning.
Yeah, like, they literally said that she would, like, get all dressed up for them to go to, like, some socialite event.
And then at the last second, she'd be like, I'm not going.
Like, just make a fight happen.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, just to be a bitch.
Oh, my God.
So I don't buy that she was, like, a battered woman at all.
I also don't buy that Dan was, like, super great either.
No.
I don't think either one of them were, like,
shining their halos anytime soon, but...
But he definitely did not deserve to get shot.
No.
And then...
Especially even if he did have an affair, it's like, come on.
Like, people have affairs all the time.
It fucking sucks.
Yeah, it's awful, but like, move on, man.
You can't...
Move on and, like, be there for your kids.
That's what you need to do.
You can't fucking kill people just because you feel like it.
And I don't know if this is true.
As much as we all want to, you can't.
Right.
I don't know if this is true.
I read it on Wikipedia, so, like, not positive because you can write like anything
in there.
But apparently...
Apparently, she was pulling the phone out of the wall.
He looked up at her and he was like, like, okay, I'm dead.
Like, that's what you wanted.
That was his last words.
Oh, my God.
You know what?
It probably was.
Yeah.
Like, that would make sense.
That'd be savage.
Like, you got what you wanted.
Yeah.
Also.
Because he probably knew all along that this is how it was going to end.
I think he probably knew it, but he didn't want to believe it.
Oh, yeah.
You never want to.
But I'm sure he was like, oh, she's definitely going to be the end of me.
That is for sure.
also more supporting evidence that she was a crazy bitch in between like her the mistrial and her regular trial
this videotape surfaced of her in prison and i don't exactly it's on american justice which is on a and e um you can find
it on youtube but this video of her in prison surfaced and it was like i don't know if she got into
a fight with somebody or what happened but she was literally like going crazy and she had to like they
were dragging her away as she's like kicking and screaming and then apparently
She was put in like solitude or whatever, whatever it's called.
Solitary confined?
Yes, thank you.
Solitude.
She was put into solitude.
And she defecated and smeared her defecation all over the walls.
Oh, so this bitch is like she has bought the farm.
Like she's a cuckoo nut lady.
Yeah, she's a cuckoo nut lady.
Yeah.
Like if you're smearing your shit places, you've lost it.
Yeah.
You've crossed over.
Like, Sianara, bitch.
I think we have all the information we need just from that.
Yeah.
That's Betty Brojik.
That is bananas.
It's like my favorite, favorite lifetime movie in the whole entire world.
Please watch it and tell me what you think, everybody.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Betty is something else.
I wonder if everyone else went on the roller coaster of emotions that I did being like,
oh my God, Dan's the worst.
Yeah, Betty.
Like, do the damn thing.
Light a shit on fire.
And then being like, oh, my God.
Betty's the worst.
I went on that emotional roller coaster.
Yeah.
It really is the best one she lights his pants on fire.
That's the only thing I stand by her in.
That, I'd be like, okay.
Like, I stand behind it.
Light his pants on fire.
It's a nice little, like, symbolism.
I like it.
I like it all.
Especially if she said,
liar, liar, pants on fire.
Yeah.
I mean, if she said that.
Like, as she was putting the match on there.
Yeah, if she just flicked the match onto the thing while she said that,
be like, like chef's kiss.
That would be wonderful.
I wish there was a gif of her doing it because she literally lights it and goes,
liar, liar, pants on fire, flicks it onto the thing and like spins around and walks
to the front door.
And he's just standing there like the child molester from seventh heaven on the front lawn like,
bloop.
Like just feeling like, who does know what to do.
Well, that was a good one.
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I did some shoulder shimmy in there.
And we hope you keep listening.
And we hope you keep it weird.
But not so weird that you let your husband's pants on fire and say liar, liar,
liar pants on fire, but then, like, drive your SUV into his home and then, like,
you, like, kill him and his new wife, and then, like, it just gets really bad,
and then you fucking put your shit on the walls.
Your literal shit.
I was so hoping that that was how it was going to end.
I was, like, sending you vibes through the screen being, like, ended on that.
The shit.
Do it.
The shit.
Go there.
Mention a defecation.
So yeah, bye, bye, no.
