Morbid - Brad's Bonkers Listener Tale

Episode Date: July 1, 2022

Well this started as a regular Listener Tale episode where we had a handful of great stories to tell you. What it turned into is an epic journey through one listener's truly harrowing experience in a very haunted home. Brad gets the spotlight today as he brings us through "The happenings" in an old house on a hill. There are deaths, demonic growls, entrapments, creatures hiding in the crawlspace and straight up teleportation (we think? Let us know, Pookie). ENJOY! This was a great tale and we are so thankful Brad shared it with all of us! Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey weirdos, I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And this is morbid. So we're not, as you can probably hear, there's no crickets. There's just a creaky rocking chair. Only a handful of you didn't like the crickets, but we're catering to you. We're catering to you, yeah. Because we care about everyone's opinions. Exactly. And it's less editing for me later. So that works. I hope you can just hear the burp that I did inside of my mouth. I didn't hear it, but who knows? Because this microphone is intense. In fact, I'm sorry if my rocking chair creaks. Well, you can edit it out, maybe. I'll edit out the creaking of my old lady chair. So before we say anything else, I was waiting to tell you something. Do you know how last week you asked me, well, maybe not last week, but like, asked some time recently you asked me,

if I went on a murderous killing spree, what would I, what song would I do? Yes. Because that was like a thing on like Facebook or something. Yeah. I decided to change my answer to tainted love. Oh, because I heard it on the way here. That's a great one. And the end is so creepy. And he's like, especially when it's like, de, d, d, d-de-de-de-de. Oh my God, yeah. That would be a great one. So that is for sure my answer. I like that. Mine is still Halloween spooks. If anybody doesn't know that, just go ahead and look it up. Yeah, just go look it up. You should insert a clip of it here. I'll probably post. Maybe I'll post a clip onto the Instagram. Yeah, that's allowed. Yeah, that's allowed. I can post whatever I want on Instagram.

So there. The rules are do whatever you want. The rules. So, yeah, hope you guys seem to dig part one. Mm-hmm. And that's why we're giving you part two before the week is over. Here you go. Because we are recording, obviously, right now.

And then again, on Sunday. And then tonight, I'm going into the morgue, and I'm going to edit this podcast. So it's going to be authentic. Going to go to bed. Yeah. So hopefully it'll be out on Friday. which won't matter to you because it'll already be in it. I'd consider even Saturday the week.

Yeah. If you... I'll try to get it out tomorrow. I'm going to try my hardest. If I don't, don't hate me. Elena really tries so hard for you guys. I do. I try a lot.

I try really hard when we're recording to be funny and present. And other than that, I just... You succeed. You know, I do what I can. You do it, man. If you need help, call me. You just really take a lot. lot of the raid. Thanks. And I just want them to know that. Thank you. Yeah. Well, we could, you know what?

It would be shit all without you. Yeah, it'd be like wicked boring. It really would. If it was just me talking to myself. Fuck that. So, and if it was, and if it was anybody else, it would be sure. Oh yeah. Fuck everyone else. Yeah. No one else. I think everybody can agree with that. If anything happens to me, this podcast is just done. Yeah, this is going to have to be over. Yeah. Because I don't think I could Aaron Mankey this. I'm not Aaron Mankey. No. I can't make it good by myself. Or I'm not Alison Horix from the strange and unusual podcast, which you should go listen to too. Right now. Because she's great.

But I don't have that charisma. You know what I do? I get hooked on one podcast and I just like don't allow myself to like listen to other ones because it feels like cheating. See, I listen to a lot of podcasts. I just listen to like one or two. And I like rotate. Like I get through them all and then I start over because I always have a new episode

to go to because I have to go through all of them first. Yeah. Like hit all the new episodes and then I can just circle back around and I got all new episodes waiting for me. I'm smart. It's a good way to do it. Do you know what it felt like today? What did it feel like?

Fall. It felt like fall. And I said it so many times at work and all my friends at work at the location I was at today, like really love summer. And I was just like, who are these people? I was like, guys, it's fall, it's fall. And then I fucking ordered. So tell me how fucking awesome this sounds.

A dirty try. Ooh, I've heard of that. So it's just like a try, like a nice try with a shot of espresso. So. Ooh. And I got one today. I got to try that because I've heard it. I've just never ordered it.

Do you want to know what happened though? So it was really, really good. But then I was putting on my sweater because I brought a sweater to work today. And I just really like, I don't know, like I just screwed myself over because I whipped my sweater on and me whipping it on. Knocked my dirty chai off the counter. That's a badass day. Yeah. I probably just like had my serving size and then the world was like, stop.

And the universe was like, take it out. The universe was like you were literal trash. We're going to fix this. You're trash. Where's your slurpy bitch? Where's your trash cereal? I'm never getting one of those again. I got so sick.

Did you? I'm just going to leave it at that. I mean, I feel like you would. For two days. Like if you were like, I felt great after that. I'd be like, you're super huge. I was sick for two days. I believe it.

Yeah. I mean, it was called the Captain Crunch Slushy. Yeah. And I got it at 7.11 at like 9-ish o'clock at night. So I really just did that to myself. Here try this some trash. That was my favorite thing ever. Here try this some trash.

So there's been a lot of true crime exciting things. There's been a lot this week. Why am I saying exciting? There's been a lot of true crime, awful things that have happened this week. I mean, in our world it's exciting. It's exciting because it's things, but they're awful things. Yeah, horrible. Yeah.

Well, exciting not for the, if you want to talk about the first one that he got caught. I was going to say that's the one good thing is in the Molly Tibbitt's case, which I was following that for like the whole bunch. She's been gone. You talked to me about it. Yeah, because John was the one who brought it up to me. And he was like, have you heard of it? Like, when she was first missing.

And he was like, what the hell is going on here? And it freaked him out because they brought up that she was jogging alone. Yeah. And that that was the last time she was seen. Do you jog alone? I don't, but I used to. Really? Yeah, I used to jog around the neighborhood by myself.

Now I don't. I've done it in forever. You only do that in like the afternoon. Yeah. I didn't know you did that. Yeah. Don't do that. No, I don't exercise.

So I don't have those worries. But that's in the, I'm so glad that he was found. Oh, yeah. And I'm so glad that he confessed. The only thing that really, I mean, there's a lot that pisses me off, but the biggest thing that pisses me off is that he was saying that he was driving by her. He saw her jogging. So he looped around a few times to stalk her while she was, so like a fucking creep.

Like, go away. And then he got out of his car and jogged next to her. Like he got on his car. Like, what? And he said. Eventually she said to him, get away from me or I'm calling the police. And he continued. So then she started running, like away.

And he said he chased her down. Like, you're a fucking piece of shit. But then he said the next thing he remembers is placing her in the cornfield where she was found. He said he blacked out. No, you didn't. You remember it. How fucking convenient. That you don't have to remember it.

Oh, it's such an easy way for them to take complete responsibility away from themselves. I blacked out. You know what, though? They fucking say that. But I hope that they think of it every single night that they're letting in jail. I hope he's. And you know what? He's going to have a fun time in jail.

Oh, yeah. Like worst. Worst. And it's like... That was just a... I mean, most crimes are senseless, but that was so fucking senseless. Just jogging down the street. And you know what her crime was?

Just being a woman. Yeah. Not even being pretty. Well, she was beautiful. Yeah. Just being a woman jogging down the road. Like, that's the issue here. Well, it's like what we were saying last week with Richard Ramirez,

how he, like, learned if you want something, you take it. Exactly. Men today. Yeah. So many of them. But, like, it is a big fucking problem. But, like, it's a big problem. And I'm sure, like, a lot of men even agree with this, that, you know,

this is a big problem that they're being taught to kind of just take what they want. And that's, and one thing I want to say to people is, like, take to, like, women, especially and Ben. Like take self-defense classes. Like, I want to take one. I do too. Because one thing... I used to do karate when I was younger.

See? And one thing that is good to know is that if somebody ever attacks you from behind, bend yourself forward and slam the back of your head against their face as hard as you can because the back of your head is very thick. Wicked smart. And it can take a really good hit and it can fuck their face up and it will at least fuck them up enough that they might let go of you and be disoriented and you can get the fuck out of there. So if somebody grabs you from behind, bend up.

forward and then slam your head back as hard as you can into their face. I love that. Just do that. Hopefully you never have to use it. If it's a dude, kick your foot back too. Yep, kick your foot back. And try to bend your butt into them because it's a very odd position to bend yourself forward and kind of push yourself forward away from them.

So just, you know, hopefully you never have to do it. But hit them in the face with the back of your head. Do you know what my strategy is? I'm far too heavy to pick up. That's my strategy. strategy. You're welcome. Can't catch me. But you know what? Because I'm not running. Think about the story that was in the murderino group a couple, what was it, like a month ago, a lady that was nine months pregnant. And this guy, wild. Still attacked her. Like, you're not safe

anywhere. Honestly, true crime will make you become a corporatic. As I'm sure everybody has noticed. Hi, I'm a true crime, a glorophobic person. That we're making everyone as paranoid as we are. That was funny. I loved, I can't remember the guy. I can't remember the guy's name. Oh my God, his name is Robert. Yes, Robert. I don't have his username right now, but it's Robert Zero, I laughed so hard at that. I was like, I had tears coming out of my eyes. I showed my husband that because I was like, this is so funny. It was funny. And I love the shade at the end. He tagged us, I don't know if anybody, everybody saw it, but he tagged us in his story after he listened to the Richard Ramirez episode. He just tagged us in a video of him latching his window and then like violently pulling his shade down. Like all very quickly like fuck that. And it was just all like no words. Just that. It was so funny. And it's exactly how I feel about

this situation. And then today the girl that tagged us when she was sleeping on her couch and she was like, well, shit. So I'm sorry that we're making your guess. Sorry guys. But like think about, we're just trying to help you out. Yeah. Morbid tips. You know, fresh air is for dead people. Sleeping on the couch is for dead people. Yeah. I'm just trying to give you a lot of your daily activities Yeah, it's fun for dead people. Honestly, sleeping's for dead people. You're so vulnerable. It really is.

You're so vulnerable. But at least lock your doors and windows if you can. Mm-hmm. You know, give it a shot. Hell yeah. But the other bummer, true crime story that we touched on briefly last, well, last episode.

Yeah, we did. It's like that asshole. I don't even remember his name. Good. And I don't care to look it up because fuck that guy. But I wish that more things focused on the victim's names. I think that's another big problem. in society. And the victim's name is Shanan and Bella and Celeste and Little Baby Nico in this. So this was the one we

talked about last episode. I keep saying last week like it happened a long time ago. And it was the guy who killed his entire family. And then before he was caught and admitted to doing this, he was on the news begging for their return. But it was such, you knew from the second he was on there that it was bullshit. it because he couldn't even, it almost looked like he was smiling. Like he couldn't form a tear. And it's like normally I don't judge people's reactions because I'm like everyone, I don't know how I'd react. Sometimes I laugh in very inappropriate situations.

Like you know that. You sure do. Like I have, when I get nervous, I laugh. So I can't totally judge that. But now knowing what he did, I'm like, you piece of it. No, shit. But what makes it worse is his confession now is that, first of all, they found out he was having an affair with his co-worker. Of course. With his pregnant wife. Like, seriously? So he's

claiming that the night that they went missing and were murdered, that he came home and told his wife that he wanted to separate because he said, you know. Oh, he told his pregnant wife he wanted to hurt. And he's claiming that this is he like hella pregnant. Yeah. I don't think she was super pregnant, but she was pregnant. And he's claiming he told her that he wanted a separation and that she flipped out. And then he looked on the baby monitor after a while. And he, he she was strangling the children to death. So now let me just, I'm going to put this out here. So you murdered your pregnant wife and your two children and now when she is not here

to defend herself, you're claiming she did the worst thing that a mother could ever do. You absolute fucking monster. That's not what happened. I don't believe it. Because you know how I know that's not what happened and how he definitely killed those kids because you know where they found their bodies. No. In an oil tank that was filled with crude oil.

He dumped his four and two-year-old into a fucking tank filled with shit oil. Oh, my God. If you gave, if you are a parent on any level or love anybody, you know that that is never, ever, something you could ever do with your children's bodies. I'm not even a parent, and I don't understand that. Like, someone could have a gun to my temple and tell me to do that. I would never. No. You would die before you did that.

Never do that. You do not disgrace your children's bodies. If you really gave a shit about them, like he's not a, he's a fucking sociopath. He killed his family because he wanted to be with this new chick, this side chick. That's what this was all about. He was having an affair. He had a family. It was too much. He wanted a new life. Just run away. Exactly. Just get the fuck out of their lives. They'd be better off without you anyways. But instead you just... It infuriated me, though, that he's... And to claim that this poor woman did the unthinkable to her children when she... She's not here to defend herself. Right.

And he claims that he strangled her because she strangled the kids. So he's the hero. And it's like, I hope you get such prison justice. Oh, my God. Because when they find out what you did to little tiny. See you later goodbye. Oh, my God. You're going to be someone's favorite snack in prison and I can't wait.

I want to hear about it. That was a great. Like, I love that you just like. Right. That was awesome. I just, ugh. So yeah. That's her.

That's our fun depressing. And it's only going to get worse. Right. So we just, oh, we have to talk about the Patreon. Oh, yes. Donators. This is a happy thing. I mean, so let's bring it all up again.

Just slam it all back down. That's really, yeah, lift their spirits. So we have been absolutely over fucking overwhelmed by the support you guys have given us on Patreon. I can't believe it's this active already. I didn't. I didn't expect any. I was like, you know, I'm just going to put this up here and give a shot. I can't even be.

We cannot begin to tell you. Thank you guys so much. Yeah. How much we appreciate it? Because now it's really making us want to pump out more material. And we're trying to improve our audio as we go here. Hopefully you're hearing a little bit each time. We're trying to get better and better.

I personally think that we sound so much better. Oh, I can't even, I'm not even going to listen to the first few episodes. No, I wish they would disappear, but like you guys can keep them. Yeah, definitely keep them. I mean, they were great. Content was good. Content was great. Audio quality.

You know. So we really, we're going to step it up for you because you've really stepped it up for us. So you really, really, really appreciate it. And we want to shout you guys out. Okay. So we have, I think there's four tiers to the page of the one of my right. But only three are active right now. Okay.

So the window latching coven, evil onion, and jagged little bitches are the ones that are active. So I'll start with window latching coven. Whoop. Shout out to Ashley Oaksley, or Oxy, not positive. Yeah, Ashley. I like how you spell your name. Jennifer Madden. Jennifer Madden, your last name is Richard Madden's last name, and he's super hot.

So I bet you're super hot. You probably are. Joanna D. Yeah, Joanna D. Love it. Kelly Bath. Kelly Bath. When I was writing down Kelly Bath's name today, I just said out loud, that's a really cool name.

It's true. Actually, like, actually loved your name. It's just a cool, fucking name. She had a moment about your name. Jacinta Edmonds is also part of the Window Latching Covent. Hell yes, Jacinta. And that is... Thank you, Window Letching Coven.

All five of you guys. You guys are fucking awesome. You guys keep closing those damn windows. Let's call the corners together some shit. Fuck yeah. You guys are a Coven. Now for the band Evil Onions. Hell yeah, Evil Onions.

We have four members of this band, so it actually could be a band. So it really is like a band. And we have one of your favorite people. Lily Turner. My Lily Turner. And I don't know if she likes Lily, so I'll say Lil. I always call her Lil. But I love my Lil.

And Lil, you're the best for supporting. us. This next name is like hella fancy and I just want to tell you that girl. Grace De Laurie. Oh, Grace De Laurie. Like De Laurie is such a like fancy ass name. Ooh. Like I feel like she had a, um, what's that thing that they do on Gilmore Girls that I wanted to do? Oh, a coming out party like a... What's it called though? Like debutante. Debutant. Debutant. She sounds like a debutante. You know what? If she didn't have one, she should. Yeah, have one now grace. Have one now. Um, there's also Lauren Sutherland. Thank you, Lauren. My little sister's name is Lauren. There you go. But she doesn't listen.

this podcast, though. But this Lauren does. Shout it to you if you do. Um, and then our last member is John Bealecky. Yeah, John. John was actually the first one. So special props to John for jump and right on that. So thank you, John. That's not a word. And also, I love it though. Okay. I think it's good. Let's just create it. I literal trash. Also, my husband's name is John, so rock on. Rock on for having a good name. Okay. And then the last group that is active right now is the jagged little bitches. And you guys, I feel like that just reminds me of pink because of, you're just like a band. Or Jagged Little Pill by Iwanis-Mor set. Yes, that too.

Yeah. Oh, I just sniffed really, really intensely. Sorry, I don't let it do. Okay. So there's three members of the Jagged Little Bishes. So they're like a nice little trio of Jagged Little Bishes. Yes, exactly. I like it.

Your girl, Samantha Trot. Who I feel like she is like my friend by association. You should be friends with Sam because she's amazing. I think she's really cool. Just like Lil, she's amazing. Lil and Sam. I think Lil and Sam need to meet each other too. I've never met Sam, but I met Lil like once at Target.

You did. Yeah. Yep. They're both amazing people. I bet they are. I love them. Thank you, Sam. Yes, thank you.

I really hope I don't say her name wrong. Brandy Belchick, Belcic. B-E-L-C-I-K. Belsick, I think. Bel-S-S-C-E-E-C-E-E-E-E-C. She's active on our Instagram, so I recognize. her name. Thank you so much, Brandy. You're the tits. You're the tits, Brandy. And then this next one is like my middle name, so I bet she's really cool. Yeah, what was that? We're inside and that just

scared me. I think it was John closing the door downstairs. When John closes the door, he does it with the authority of like a thousand huns. Oh, okay. Yeah. That was intense. It felt like he was closing the door up here. Yeah, that's what it feels like anywhere in the house. Um, sorry, Nicole, we just got really up track. Nicole Speckin. Yeah, Nicole Speckin. Yeah, Nicole Speckon. Yeah, Nicole Speckon. So, thank you guys. You guys. Seriously, like, we're in awe. This is not even real life. Sorry if you're hearing me put this paper down by. So, guys, seriously, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I can't even appreciate how much I appreciate you. I can't even appreciate it. That's not what I'm meant to say. I can't even understand or comprehend. Explain. Yes. How much I appreciate you.

Yeah. We have it. We're so, we are humbled to say the least. Like, people want to listen to us? This is Oh yeah, and that's another thing. We do want to start, because we asked you guys for merch ideas, like quotes, and you guys gave us fucking amazing things. Like, I love that people have grabbed on to so many quotes. It makes me feel good. They have said things that I didn't even realize that they say so much. That when it came out, I was like, oh yeah. I do say that. I do say that a lot. So yeah, we're going to try to get some merch together for that. Try to get some t-shirts, try to get some buttons, some stickers that we can send to our patrons to. What, what? And we, um, I believe the first of the month is when you will be billed for your Patreon donation.

And that's when we will start gathering up all the fun stuff to send you guys and get out our bonus episodes for you guys because we're going to get those rolling. So let me all look out for that. Woo! And I think that's all the business we have to attend to since we're like 20 minutes into this thing already. Oh shit. We're going to turn into like the people that talk forever. I know.

Okay, ready? So part two of Richard Ramirez. So I'm... So, I mean, things are going to get pretty rough. It was already really rough, but there's a couple in here. We ended on a rough note. Yeah, we ended on Ma Bell and her friend Florence Lang, which, by the way, what I've noticed about this case is there is a lot of conflicting information about names.

For some reason, victims' names get twisted around or named totally different things. Because there's so many. So I just kind of pick the ones that I could find the most. And if I couldn't find something that I was confident enough to say, I was. I don't say it. So I'm not going to give you wrong information here. One of the other things I'll just add in here is somebody emailed us or DMed us about the pentagram thing. Oh, yeah, you told me about that.

Because he uses pentagrams a lot. And they were kind enough to actually explain the difference between a pentacle and a pentagram. And so it made me want to do further research because, girl, I love to research. So give me anything and I'm going to research it for like three hours. And so I went into the whole history of the pentagram and pentacle because I was like, oh, we said pentagram this whole time. And everything I've read about him says pentagram. I've never read pentacle. I don't think we were technically wrong.

Okay. Just made it on typicality. And I'm not trying to be like, we're not wrong, you know, but I think basically it is what you attribute the meaning to it. Like, because back in like the four, this dates back to like the 14th, 15th century. when like occult practices started taking over, they were rooted in Judeo-Christian symbolism and mysticism, so they started taking Christian symbols and turning them. Okay.

And so the pentacle and pentagram are kind of interchangeable in that sense where it's like the meaning you attribute to it. Okay. And like I think it's like it doesn't really matter if there's a circle around it or not. It's kind of just the meaning really is the meaning behind it. It's yeah, it's kind of like you can put the pentacle without the circle or the pentagram without the circle, whatever the hell it is. And if you're attaching a terrible meaning to it, then it is what it is.

So I think we're going to continue calling it a pentagram just because from what my research, that's what I've found to be okay. But, you know, we're not trying to offend anybody. I did no research. So I just do what you tell me. And I think also like Hollywood has something to do with this too. They've called it a pentagram, so it's become a pentagram kind of thing. Oh, okay.

So I think in Richard Ramirez's eyes, it's a pentagram. So I'm just saying pentagram because that's what he was using. Yeah. But we appreciate. A witch's star. Like what's her face up? Yeah, like a witch's star. That's ridiculous.

And whoever, I'm sorry, I can't remember your name, who DM'd us. I'm like tired. But thank you for bringing that to my attention because it was actually interesting to research. So I appreciate it. So we're going to start off after the Ma Bell and Florence Lange. terrible terrible murders go back to part one if you want to hear about that now during this whole murder spree

Richard was living in and out of the Cecil Motel which is what you mentioned and Ash was the one who brought it up that we need to do a whole episode on that because we could do multiple episodes for sure we should do an entire episode just dedicated to the things that have happened in that hotel there's so many interesting things yeah and he during these things he was basically he would go back

to that place, like when he could scrounge the money together by stealing shit from people's houses. Because every time he murdered someone, he stole shit from their house. Like, he was a fucking thief. He was Richie the Klepto. And he would come back to the Cecil Motel, and he would dump his bloody clothing in the dumpster and the pecks in the back of the hotel. Which I'm sure no one was paying attention to that. Literally, the place was such fucking unmitigated chaos that, like, no one noticed. And he would, like, walk back to his room, like, half naked.

I want to know who was working there. It's like, what? Because they were not paying attention. Well, and I know other serial killers, like, worked out of that place because of the association with Richard Ramirez, too. Huh? So it got, like, yeah. So that's fucked up. Is that what hotel was based off of?

Yeah, it was. It was, like, loosely based off of that whole thing. So, um, we're up to, no. The more I looked between, like, the names and the dates, the dates, like, some of these get fucked up, too. It's, like, different timelines say different things. Should we not say the date? I'm saying the dates that I have, I have crossed. referenced with each other and feel confident about.

But some dates, I'm just leaving out and not saying the dates because I'm not going to. Because you don't want to be wrong. I don't want to spread a ton of wrong information. So we're up to May 30th, 1985 now. And his next victim was 41-year-old Carol Kyle. He broke in, he and he basically just raped and sodomized her. He left her alive. Carol.

Did she live? She did. She was left alive. And she described him. as quote good looking which weirdly if you like if he wasn't a garbage person and he had taken care of himself he has beautiful cheekbones I will actually show you a picture of a kid that I graduated high school with and he looks like if he was cleaned up and not garbage person he he would be a decent looking like he could have modeled well he's very much like he is like a normal looking dude

yeah he's like very so I mean it's a lot of them described him as like somewhat handsome. And as you'll see later, he had a lot of groupies. So we'll get to that later though. Guys, he didn't brush his teeth. Well, that's it. Well, she was the one who said that he smelled like wet leather. She described it as wet leather.

That just like reminds me of a wet dog. Right. That's what I think of. I think of the wet dog smell immediately. Oh, God. And it's because of his fucking halotosis that was caused by him. Oh, halitone. Like that, oh, bye.

Yeah. So that was, so. He's racking up, like, descriptions now because he's leaving some people alive, which no rhyme or reason. He's just some people he decides. And he will say later, it made him feel more powerful to decide whether or not somebody. Like, he could walk out of there and leave you alive, and he was like, God, because he just saved you.

But he was like your God, excuse me. Yeah. So, this is one that the date isn't very clear. but it's 66-year-old Harold Wu and 62-year-old Gene Wu, husband and wife. He went after so many elderly people and, like, makes me crazy. So he broke in and shot Harold in the head immediately as he slept next to Gene. That was his thing. That was one thing he did do all the time, was he would shoot the husband in the head.

So Gene was bound, and she was violently punched and raped. Jesus. he left her alive and he later said that this was one of those times that he left the person alive because he could because he can do whatever he wants

he can choose to leave you alive fucked so this is another one that the date is unclear but the next one was 41 year old Ruth Wilson he broke into her home in the middle of the night this one's a little scary but there's a child in this one but the child was left unharmed

so just know that going in he found her 12-year-old son, and he used him as bait for her to show him where all the valuables were in the house. So he, like, held the 12-year-olds. So when I say unharmed, I mean, physically unharmed. Not emotionally and mentally, probably not. But he would take, he took him, him around the house and was like, show me where all your fucking valuables are, or I'm going to kill him. So she showed him everything. She, she brought him to, like, a very valuable necklace. I believe she was a widow, too, and I think the necklace was, like, sentimental. Um, so. Um, and, and,

Um, he ended up after she got him all the valuables, he handcuffed the son and locked him in a closet. Jesus. And then he sodomized and raped Ruth. Like, she was in the closet. Like, she was fucking gave you all her stuff. So can you just leave? And I think that was one of the things she was like, I will give you everything. Like, just leave.

He then slashed her once and then bound her and her son together. Slashed her? Like, just slashed her with a knife. Jeez. And then bound her to her son and then left them both alive. Like what? The next one was June 2nd, 1985, and it was 29-year-old Edward Wildgins. He was shot and killed by Ramirez, and his girlfriend was violently raped but left alive.

Oh, my God. So, I don't know what his thing is. That's so horrible that he's just, like, leaving all these women alive, like, without the people that they're, like, they're, like, they're, like, they're, like, they're, like, they're, like, human. Like, that's, and I feel like that. That's probably part of it. I thought I had that. Yep, so did I. And I was literally like,

Welp, not coming. Woo. I almost unplugged the computer, guys. So, anyway. Again, he's starting to, he's leaving too many witnesses. He's leaving too many people that can describe it.

Because he wasn't wearing masks. He was just, he thought he was unstoppable. He thought he was God. Exactly. Now, he was always using stolen cars for this whole thing, because that way they can't track him and it's easy.

And he just was really good at stealing cars. So he just did it. You wore the same fucking sneakers. Exactly. There was one night where he tried to break into a home, but he saw a man awake and conveniently cleaning a gun. No way. So he bailed.

He's like, you know what? So he tried to straight up kidnap a little girl in Eagle Rock. But she started screaming and fighting him and someone called the police. Good for her. Yeah. And so he bailed again. So he gets back into his stolen car and he runs a fucking red light in the stolen car. Because he's so, like, frustrated at this point.

He's just like, he's everywhere. So the cop, a cop pulls him over. A frenzy. A frenzy. He's in a foe, a tenzy. He's in a foe attensy. You know that. That's like a serial killer frenzy is a foe a tenzy.

Yeah. That's a clinical term. It is. I'm here to say it. Says Ash. Well, so a cop pulled him over. And the cop had heard. heard the description of the man who had tried to kidnap that little girl, like moments earlier.

He was like, oh, hey, you look just like that fucking guy. And the description matched Richard, obviously, because it was fucking him. Let me guess. The cop was like, no, I think so. No, the cop actually asked him jokingly, hey, you're not the guy killing people in their homes, are you? You're kidding. L-A-P-D. Get your shit together. How are they... Do you know what?

There's so many situations. just like at this very moment. If I could time travel, I would go back in time to the LAPD and I would show them all of the things. Like I would gather all the articles and all the dumb shit that they did. And be like, hey, you can stop this. You can just like, you can stop being so dumb. Yeah. Thank you. I'm going back to the present, even though it sucks a little bit more. I think that's a really good idea and I'd like that to happen. Because there's just too many cases like this where it's like, come on LAPD. I'm going to look into time travel after this.

You really should. I'll research it. Just for this. Basicest amount of time travel research. Basicest amount, but just, it needs to happen. I'll give it a look. Because come on LAPD. Jesus.

I just cannot. And what it'd be like? And he responded, no way, man. When are you guys going to catch that motherfucker? Of course he did because, duh. So the cop just walks back to his car to, you know, like, do his shit. And then he goes to, like, call in the red light stop. and the stolen car that he found out that he's like,

oh, this is a stolen car when he runs the plates. And Richard just gets out of the car, draws a pentagram on the hood of the car, and runs away. Like, did the guy fall asleep in the middle of this? All the cops wasn't noticing because LAPD. I like that he also just drew a pent. He's like, let me make sure, okay. And it sounds like, like, just, I don't even know.

Like, over the top, he's like, ha-ha. He just, like, draws a pentagram as like, beep-bee! It was very like hamburger. It's like, boops off. Exactly. That's what I think of. It's like, you can't catch me?

Was it a really, like twirling his mustache? Was it a really big pentagram or like just a... I don't know. I think it was like a fairly big one. Either way. Wow. I can drop pentagram on a hood of a car while a cop standing there. Yeah, it takes time.

We were drawn them in your driveway the other time. We were with chalk. Which is like maybe fucked up. Yeah, I'm sorry. They were in the pentacles. Yeah, exactly. Or whatever. Well, our meaning attaching to it was not bad.

Yeah, it was drawn pink ones. Exactly. So I'm going to end all. of these situations, which is like, because LAPD. Okay. I like that. I think that should just really let you know what's going on here. So a couple of days later, after this, June 27th, 32-year-old Patty Elaine Higgins, he slit her throat ear-to-ear while she slept.

Like, what the fuck? Whoa. Now, a few days later, July 2nd, 75-year-old widowed grandmother, who had survived two about three-outes. of cancer. Oh my God. Mary Louise Cannon. He broke into her home at night. He beat her unconscious with a lamp from her bedside table.

Jesus. And then stabbed her with a 10-inch butter knife. What? Yep. Like, he stabbed her with a butter knife? With a butter knife. Yeah. And let me tell you, it's hard to stab someone anyways.

Like, I'm not saying I've stabbed people like out there. Where are we going? But, like, during an autopsy, even. And when I first started training, they had to tell me, like, you got to put some force behind it because it's harder than you think. With a butter knife? Like, we use sharpened blades. I can't imagine a butter knife. Damn.

Like, that blew my mind. And it's like, this lady survived two bouts of cancer, and it's Richard fucking Ramirez that takes her out. Like, that makes me angry. He is a fucking cancer. So how about that? He really is. July 5th, 1985. This one's scary.

16-year-old Whitney Bennett. She lives. But he broke into her room, knew that her parents were sleeping in the room next to her, hits the sleeping 16-year-old in the head with a tire iron. Oh, my God. Rapes her, and then leaves. She was left needing 478 stitches to close up the wound

that he left on her skull. I'm sorry, so legitimately almost 500 stitches? Literally. And he raped her a 16-year-old with her parents in the next room. Did she have, like, brain damage? I don't know. Oh, my God. I mean, and think about it.

He hit her with a tire iron, opened her head up enough that she needed 500 stitches. I'm surprised she didn't believe out. And while that was going on, he's raping her. Oh, God, you. Like, you're an evil, evil, evil, beyond. But, so this was, that was July 5th, July 6th, so he's really on a tear. Damn.

60-year-old Joyce Nelson. She was asleep on the couch. when he broke in and violently beat her, she was stomped to death. What? Literally, he stomped her to death, which is the most violent, aggressive thing I've ever heard. Like, I didn't even know that was a thing. The amount of rage and aggression. What is wrong with him?

Well, this is the thing. It's like, he changes it up all the time, and he gets worse. Like, he comes out with different awful shit to do. I mean, he covers the spectrum. That's insane. There's very little that he does that. I mean, there's very little that he doesn't do. I don't think there's anything.

I can't really think of anything. I mean, every serial killer is awful, but most of them stick to one awful thing or two awful things. He literally hits everything. He's got torture, rape, sodomy, I mean, beating to death, stomping to death, stabbing to death, shooting to death. He literally has everything. What don't you do? He has nothing that he hasn't done. That's so fucked up.

So he left that Avia footprint on her face. Wow. They were able to see the literal footprint of that shoe on her face, which is they, that's another connection. That's horrible. Now, the same night as he stomped Joyce Nelson to death, 63-year-old grandmother and nurse Linda Fortuna was attacked in her home around 3.30 a.m. He held a gun to her head and woke her out of a densely. So she was woken out of a dead sleep with a gun to her temple.

And he held a hand over her mouth and said, make a sound and I'll kill you. So that's what she woke up to, 63-year-old grandmother, ordered her out of bed and brought her into the bathroom, ransacked her house, then he brought her back into her bedroom, put a pillow over her face and a glove in her mouth, tried to rape her, couldn't get it up,

tried to sodomize her, couldn't get it up because he's a flaccid penis little shitbag. Ew. And each time she said he was getting more and more angry that he wasn't able to perform. Because again, he integrates sex and violence. And if that's not happening, something is going to set off in him. Like, that's going to enrage him more than anything. And so she said, because she survived.

Oh, my God. She said she was getting more and more scared. First of all, she thought he was going to suffocate her because he put the pillow over her face. for so long, I'm sure. And she was like, this is how it ends, but he didn't. And then she goes, she said every time he couldn't do it, he was getting more and more angry. And she was like, he's going to kill me just out of rage. Out of rage.

Yeah. But he didn't. He cursed her, like called her a bitch, all this good stuff, and then left and left her alive. Wow. Yeah. Again, it makes so sense. So July 20th, 32-year-old. Now, this one is the doozy.

I would like to put a pretty big trigger warning on this one. There is a child in this one. No. The child lives, but he does something awful to this child. So I just want to warn you. If you want to skip a few seconds ahead, if you don't want to hear this, I understand. I do. Where should I go?

Well, you have to. I've signed up for this. You sign up for this, you have to say. So, strapping. 32-year-old, now I'm sorry if I butcher this name. really hard name. Chetat Asawaham. I'm sorry if I butchered that name.

He is shot immediately with a 25 caliber handgun and his 29-year-old wife was beaten and forced to perform fallacious on Ramirez. Which is so disgusting. Then he rapes her. He then finds their

8-year-old son and he rapes him with a bottle of baby oil. So he saw atomized an eight-year-old with a bottle of baby oil. She said the, now the mother is still alive, and so is the eight-year-old. She said that he kept asking her where the money is throughout this whole thing, and she said that she quote said, I swear to God that there's no money.

And he got angry when she said that, and he started telling her, you swear to Satan. What the fuck? Then he raped her again and made her swear to Satan, and then he left. Now her statement after this was, quote, he's dangerous beyond words, so brutal, so mean, so cruel. His eyes were like an animal's, not human. That is the, oh my God. Yeah, that one even know how to continue to do this podcast right now. I know my insides are like garbage right now.

I actually just felt like I was going to throw up. Yeah, that one was hard to get out. I don't like kids things, man. It's not. That one, when I read that, and it's like, I have to like erase that from my. Well, I mean, you have to say it. Like, that's... Because it's one of the...

In order to understand what I meant when I said he is by far the worst, that needs to be said. Because you need to see the depths of depravity that he sinks to. I mean, he has no limit. I just don't understand, like... There was no... Like, plenty of... I'm sorry.

You know what? I'm just going to go on. it. Plenty of people go through horrible shit in their lives. Oh yeah. Like, yeah, I get that your childhood was horrible and I'm sorry for that. But other people go through that and don't do even nearly as bad things as that. Exactly. They just go through life and they get better. That is. And that's why. What the fuck. He's a very good case study for nature because it's like, yeah. Nothing makes you do that. No. Nothing. It's one thing to have an abusive childhood and you turn into a shit violent human being.

But that's beyond. It is so wild and like inconceivable in my mind to think that anyone could ever like even think to do that. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like you just literally can't wrap your brain right now. I'm blown away right now. Yeah, it blew me away.

It blew me away. I mean, that's like beyond. And this poor, this poor mother just had watched. Her husband just got shot in the head next to her out of nowhere while they're sleeping. You must have been in shock forever. And then your eight-year-old, that happens while you're there and you can't stop. That's what really got me. Well, what can you do?

Is this poor mother couldn't stop that. And that's like, I don't know how you get by after that. I really don't. I think, and I almost think, and maybe he's not this smart, to be honest, but it's like, somewhere in his brain thinking, I'm leaving these people worse off than if I killed them. No, I think he, I. Like somewhere he's probably sitting there being like, this. is worse, so I'm going to leave you alive. I think he was that evil. Right? I think it's like,

that's what I think. I think he was that evil that he wasn't just going, oh, well, I'm powerful and I can do this. I think he was going, no, no, I'm literally leaving you with the worst fucking possible life I possibly can. So he's even worse. Because he would be doing them a favor to kill them at that point. Yeah. Like at that point, as that mother, I would be like, honestly shoot me in the face. Like, that would, how do you ever? So it's like that kind of thing. It's, that's, that's, what I mean, man, he is beyond. He's so gross, like so gross, beyond gross. And if you thought that was a crazy, like, he's not done that night. But that was the worst. That was, that's the worst. Okay. Yeah. I would say that that's definitely, that one stuck out to me as the worst.

Because I'm actually, like, in shock right now. Like, my brain is not saying a lot other than, holy fuck. Well, that's same night of July 20th. Oh, he wasn't done? He wasn't done. He wasn't done. He went his 68-year-old Maxxon needing and his 66-year-old wife, Layla Ellen needing. He went to their house. He brought a machete with him to this one. What the fuck? Where do you get a machete, Richard? He's literally, he is everything. What are you doing? He's got everything. He hacks them both in bed with the machete, and then shoots them both in the head. And then he robs the home and chops them up more after death. So he mutilates their bodies. So again, he has literally,

no fucking pattern. Like, you can't understand what's going on in his fucking brain. Any explanation when they caught him about, like, what the fuck was wrong with him? He's evil. That's what he said. He said, I'm evil. Like, he literally is like, I am working for the devil. This is what I'm doing. That legitimately makes me believe that, like, there is some crazy force out there that, like, takes over people. I feel like it's like a demon. Yes, yes, exactly. Like, it's a demonic thing. Because it's like, he literally attributes it to, like,

like, I'm evil. I'm working for evil. And it's like, yeah, you are. Like, 100%. Like, he doesn't give any, no other explanation. It's just I'm evil. That just, I'm evil. Well, and at this point, obviously, like, he's done multiple in the same nights, everything like that. So the media was going crazy. But he wasn't even named the Nightstocker yet at this point.

They were calling him the Walkin Killer. That was like their one they'd landed on for a while, the walk-in killer. Well, at this point, gun sales shot up in the other area. People were sleeping with axes and tire irons next to their beds. Like, no windows were open, even though it was a super hot summer. And fresh air is for dead people, so good on them. Oh, my God. Get an air conditioning.

Even in air conditioning. I'd be like, you know what? I'll sleep in the sweltering heat. It's fine. I don't want it. The LAPD was a fucking mess, still. They had no idea what was going on. Like, who worked for the LAPD back then?

So August 6th, 36-year-old Chris and 27, year old Virginia Peterson were sleeping in bed. They were, he came into their house, he shot Virginia in the face. Oh, my God. And then he shot Chris in the temple. They fucking lived and fought him off. After being shot in the face? She got shot in the face.

And he got shot in the fucking temple. And he fucking bailed like a little bitch because these two people, after getting shot, I'm going to reiterate, in the face and in the temple, fought his ass. Like, not all heroes wear capes. Did the bullet just not go all the way in? Like, what? Apparently, it couldn't have, say, I mean, it couldn't have penetrated, like, foreign to certain parts of their brain.

But they both lived, and they were both able to give a description of him. What a bunch of motherfucking badass, mofo craziness. Because, like, not only do you live through that, which is like, what are you? But then you fight him. him to the point where he bails because you've like scared him? You're working for a force, my brothers. Like, you are. You're working for me. That one made me, that was like a glimmer of good, good things because they live. I want them to be my brother from another mother. Right. Like, I want to talk to them. I want to be like, you guys are awesome. Can we interview that? Seriously,

just be like, can you just talk to me about being a badass? Like, how, wow. Well, now was August 6th. You know what, though? How the fuck do you ever fall asleep again? Exactly. I would stay wait for the rest of my life. I would just be drinking coffee at all. Like, like, just That would be a jerry. Mesh. Well, in two days later, because again, he's on a tear. August 8th, 35-year-old, this one's sad, too. No, they all are.

Yeah, it really is. They're all awful, but, like, some of them just hit you. I believe his name is Elias Abilath and his wife, Sakina, were sleeping in bed. He was immediately shot in the head and killed like that. His wife said that she was, because she lived through this. Oh, God. She was immediately punched in the face and thrown to the floor out of dead sleep. So she heard the boom next to her.

She was punched in the face and then thrown on the floor. Like that's what you wake up to. He then threatened to kill her children if she didn't provide valuables because she had two children in the house. He made her swear to Satan per yuge, because that's his thing now. And he raped her several times. They had kids aged three years and two months. They were unharmed. But this case is the one that finally gives him the nightstocker name.

I don't know why. It just happened to be. It's weird. And I did read something that said that the three-year-olds did walk in in the middle of it. And he tied the three-year-old up and put them in a different room. Oh, my God. So I read a CBS Los Angeles article about this one. And her son's are like 30 now, obviously.

And her son said that... No. Oh. And her son said that their mother waited until they were older to tell them what happened to their father. She originally told them that he died of cancer to protect their... I would... And one of them is quoted as saying, she is such a good mom. She never wanted me to know about any of it.

She held all of it in until I was 16. One of them said. I'm not joking you. I legitimately feel like I'm going to cry. Like, she didn't tell them anything. What a... Oh, my God. Like, what a mom?

That is... Because she knew. There's no reason. It's like she had... to hold all that inside herself. How do you fucking do that to somebody, dude? And it's like, so what a, and she never remarried. Like, she said that, like, and she was, when she talked about her husband, she was like,

he was such a good person, such a good father, like. You're trying to make me cry. Well, just, like, it's like. No, that's horrible. Like, he's just walking into these homes and just destroying. I hope that every single day, Richard Ramirez got, like, sodomized, like, through his eyeballs. Really. Seriously, with baby oil. Like, honestly.

Well, luckily, he, it's like a great thing that he died in this awful way, but it's also like, I wish he had, like, 53, I think. And he all, exactly. Fucked up every day. Exactly. And it's like, he really only had, I think he had 23 years on death row, which is a lot. That's good. Still, not enough.

I would like more. I just burped. Sorry, I guess. Excuse you. But, um, no, Detective Frank Salerno. who is a fucking badass. You'll hear his name in other cases from here and out. He's the one who nailed this case.

He's fucking amazing. And like we said last week, I believe we said he caught the Green River Killer too. He said this case was literally enveloping his every second. Like he said he could not. And he said his kids were coming to him. He had young kids and were like, please catch the bad man, daddy. And he was like, literally I could not. of anything else but getting this guy off the fucking streets.

Like, he's like a detective. He's a fucking detective. This is like, I don't know, this is fucked up to say, but can you imagine living through something like that? Mm-mm. Like, it would be like horrible. We have a couple, we have someone on our Instagram that said they were growing up in Los Angeles around that time.

Like, that's fucking wild. Like, I can't imagine. Like, mom was, my mother was in Boston and was a young woman during the Boston Strangler stuff. And she lived with a bunch of girls in an apartment where you could open the apartment with a credit card. Yeah. And I was like, Ma, how the fuck did you sleep? Like, that blew my mind.

Crazy shit has happened to Mom. But enough about my amazing mother. Yes. So he's the one. Frank Salerno is the one who connected the Avia footprints and all the pentagram symbols and stuff. He started connecting them all and saying this is one guy. Thank you, Frank. So he actually went down himself to places like,

Skid Row and would match footprints to his Avia footprints. He would talk to people on Skid Row. He would get descriptions. He was matching shit away. Like he was putting himself in that shit. Yes. LAPD couldn't manage to fucking figure out what the hell was going on. And this guy's like in there talking to people on Skid Row.

Their thumbs were inserted heavily into their assholes. Like thank God for Detective Frank Salano. So after this last case, he called a press conference. And he told everyone that there was one serial. killer, that this was one and that he was operating around the area, and that he had killed almost a dozen people by this time. He literally told everyone, buy weapons, lock your doors, and try to stay safe. Like, he was literally on a press conference saying, guys, buy fucking weapons and lock your doors. Can you imagine seeing that? I would be like, I'm moving.

No, I would probably move. I'm not kidding. I couldn't. And obviously, a lot of people couldn't just pick up and move. I would be on a kitchen. But it's like, no, I would try to go. It's like, can you imagine not having the option? Well, yeah, right now would never fucking have the option to go anywhere. It's like, I can't even imagine. So that's terrifying. Now, his description was being passed around everywhere, and there were sketches. These sketches are so bad.

First of all, they get him with gray hair, which I'm not, I have no idea what that's about. Because it was like the middle of the eye. And they had him with, like, bulging eyes. It just, I'm going to post him on the Instagram because they were like, let's make him look as evil as it sounds. If we thought that like the Ted Bundy ones were bad, those ones were so accurate compared to this one, it's so bad. So now he knows that the heat is on him because he's starting to see that they're zeroing in and that they're connecting all these things. So he knows L.A. is bananas right now for him. So he leaves town for San Francisco.

For San Francisco. Wake up, San Francisco. We have two very different thoughts on that. So while he's in San Fran, he's like, I'm not going to, this is my vacation time. He breaks into the home of Peter and Barbara Pan. Yes, Peter Pan. Can he just take a vacation? No. He killed 66-year-old Peter Pan.

No. With a gunshot to the temple with that 25 caliber handgun. 62-year-old Barbara Pan was beaten viciously and raped before being shot in the head and left for dead. Oh, my God. I couldn't find accurately. I'm pretty sure she lived. So he then drew a pentagram and wrote the words Jack the knife on the wall in lipstick. What does that even mean?

Jack the knife is from a Judas Priest's song, so I don't know. It goes back a lot further than that, but I'm assuming it's... Maybe he was listening to that. Yeah, I'm sure he was listening to Judas Priest. He was making all these bands look horrible. Yeah, he was giving them bad press. He was really taking their record sales down. Now, this is when the media finally revealed that of the ship,

shoe print evidence. And Ramirez was obviously very into watching the coverage of his crimes. Of course, because he thought he was the titties. And so he saw this, and he immediately threw those sneakers over the side of the Golden Gate Bridge that night. Wow. Yeah.

So then he returns back to L.A. Now, when he goes to L.A., yeah, probably. He goes back to L.A. He's probably getting, like, a no name. He's getting, like, Ranned to Payless. Yeah, he's just getting, like, a Vida. It's like the generic version of Ovia. So he returned back to L.A.

And when he got there, he attempted to break into James Romero's home. And I think his family had just returned from vacation. Now, his 13-year-old son happened to be awake at the time. Oh, God. And he alerted his parents that some creep-ass was prowling around the house because he could hear him. He was like, I hear somebody outside of the fucking out. That's terrifying. James scared Richard off.

How? I think you ran outside of the house with like a fucking guy. And it was like, get out of my house. He scared him off, but he was able to see the vehicle he left in and got a partial plate. So he thought this guy was just because he just thought it was a burglary attempt. So he called the police and gave that. I'm sorry, was this in San Francisco? No, this was in L.A.

But I think he was just like, I don't know if it wasn't that late or if he just was like, I don't know. He just thought it wasn't. But he called the police and gave them the description of the car and the partial plate. Whoa. So I believe. it was the same night, there was an engaged couple, 30-year-old Bill Carnes, and 29-year-old Inez Erickson. He broke into their house.

He shot Bill three times in the head immediately. Then he said to the woman, quote, you know who I am, don't you? I'm the one they are writing about in the newspapers and on TV. Then he made her swear to Satan and beat her. Oh, my God. He tied her up with neckties. He sodomized her while making her say she loves Satan. What?

He didn't kill her. And then he said, tell him the nightstocker was here as he left. Can you imagine? All you know about this dude, all you've been warned, and that dude walks out and is like, tell him the nightstocker was here, I would throw up all over myself. Like knowing what he's capable of? I would just be the beautiful position for the rest of my life. Well, Bill survived. No way.

After being shot three times in the head. Yep. Yes, Bill. And Inez could give a detailed description of Richard Ramirez. Yes, you know what? Go fuck your time. So police now had the descriptions that they were getting in from everybody, and they were able to take a, what's it called? Casing, footprints, case.

What is it like a mold? Yeah, mold. Why couldn't I think of that word? I was like, is it that simple? I was like a fucking case. What is it? A mold. I'm like making a weird gesture with my hand.

Somehow you got that. I was like a claw. A mold of the footprint that was found at the Romero house. Oh, okay. And I think they were able to match it at least with the size. Are we near the end? Because this is the best end of any case ever. It's getting really good.

So then they found his stolen car abandoned, the one that he's fled in, and the one that they had already gotten a description of, and a partial plate from James Romero. And they dusted it for fingerprints. He had wiped it clean except for one partial print on the rearview mirror. Boom, positively identified as Richard Ramirez. Fuck, yeah. He had been arrested before on drug charges and, like, traffic violations and shit. Okay.

So they already had them. There was a mugshot there. So they already had his fingerprints. So that's why he was so careful about leaving fingerprints because he knew he was in the system. Wow. Well, boom. He came up.

So now one night during this whole thing, remember his friend Donna Myers? Yeah, I do. Who he lived with on and off. He said that you weren't going to say she was a ship out of, maybe she was. Because she did help. I mean, I think I'm more,

I was being, like, judgy about her lifestyle. You know, people live their lives. So, I mean, I'm not going to judge. But they, they were. were sitting, this was his friend in L.A. They were sitting watching TV together one night, and a police composite flashed on, this was before they had his mugshot. Can you imagine sitting next to the night stalker? Well, that's the thing. Hey, I think you're the night stalker. The police composite sketch flashed onto the screen and he said, hey, Donna, do you think I'm the night stalker? And if she remember

saying, hell no, Rick, you ain't got enough guts to kill anybody. And she was like, she thought it was just a joke, but she said he wouldn't leave it alone. So he said, aren't you afraid of being alone with me in the house? I'd be like, now I am. And he asked. And then he said, and he said, what would Donna, what would you do if you broke into a home and found out people were home? Would you kill them or what would you do? And she was like, I'd be like, I just wouldn't break into anybody's home because that's wrong. And she said he just thought he was having a, like, he's a strange guy. He has a weird sense of humor. He's just like being weird. So she's like we were on drugs Now Thursday August 29th

Donna Myers' daughter went to the police with jewelry Which was a pearl ring and a gold bracelet And she said she got them from a man named Rick Who sometimes stayed with her mother By the next day Donna Myers had given the police Ramirez's name So she helped

Because she all of a sudden was like You know what There's something fishy here So they were starting to close in Now I know what happens and I'm on the edge of my seat. Police connected at all. They have the mugshot of Ramirez taken eight months earlier.

So they're just trying to find out where he is right now. Exactly. So this was after the stolen vehicle and the prints were found along with the descriptions, the mugshot, they have everything. Now they're literally just being like, okay, guys, we have them. We just got to find him. So the police decided to release the mugshot to everybody. It was broadcast on TV news shows Friday evening. It appeared in LA newspapers, Saturday morning, and during a press conference, they stated, we know who you are now, and soon everyone else will. There will be no place for you to hide.

Yes. And there wasn't. God. August 30th, Ramirez took a bus to Tucson, Arizona to visit his brother. Now, at this point, they had just released all this shit the night before. He had no fucking clue. That his mugshot was plastered all over fucking Los Angeles. No idea.

And like gets on a bus. He had, now, he didn't end up seeing his brother in Tucson. So he returned back to L.A. early in the morning on August 31st. Again, no idea what he's returning to. So police were actually staking out the bus terminal he came through, but he walked right past them. Dude. Fucking LAPD.

Get your thumb out of your bum. Like, come on, guys. Like, Jesus. So still having no idea that he's plastered everywhere. Ramirez just stops at a convenience store and grabs a copy of La Opinion newspaper that morning and sees his photo on the front page as well as several other periodicals along the shelf. So does he run the fuck out? So obviously he starts to fucking panic.

And then shit really gets ratcheted up because some two old ladies in the store were looking at the newspaper, looked up, saw him, and started screaming and pointing at him, El Matador, which means the killer. It means the killer. So they were all screaming, oh, Matador, oh, Matador! Yes, this is my favorite. He starts fucking, no, he's wearing a black Jack Daniels T-shirt and black jeans. He set off on a four-mile run through L.A., dodging through Alley's backyards, and he stopped several times to try to fucking carjack people.

Wow. Because he just panicked. So he keeps running. He reaches East Hubbard Street, where he makes the really bad mistake of trying to steal Festino Piny's Redd's. Mustang coop. Now, Pynion wrestled him to the fucking ground. So he gets away from him. He races across the street and attacks a woman named Angelina de la Torre, who's 28 years old. She was leaving in her own car to buy birthday presents for her daughter. And Angelina surrenders

the keys and is like, fucking take it. It was a Ford Granada. She was like, take it. So she runs screaming for help. Now this guy named Jose Bergen, Bergen, I think Burgeon. John. Sorry if I say that wrong. He was 55 years old. He heard her screaming, saw this whole thing. He promptly ran across the street and grappled with Ramirez. Like, no one's scared of this motherfucker. They're like, I'm going to take you. This community, running like a little bitch now. This community is a bunch of fucking badass. They are like, fuck you. This is my favorite thing that's ever happened. Because they say, they're like, you terrorized our community. Like, we are one. Well, now after Jose is grappling

with him, now Angelina. Nina's husband, the one whose car he just tried to steal and she ran away, he comes out, Manuel De La Tor, 32 years old, he arrives with a steel rod that he has taken from his front gate. Yeah. He smashes Ramirez on the head. Fuck yeah. Then Ramirez keeps running with an entire fucking community chasing him down the street. Like a parade.

Manuel was able to catch up with him and fucking beat him again with the metal rod. Wasn't there like kids and shit? Oh yeah, everybody. Literally. He caused him to fall against a fence. when he fell, Jose's son, the guy who first was grappling with him, his son's Jamie and Julio arrived as well. And he was literally getting the shit kicked out of him by an entire group, like mob.

This is my favorite thing in the world. Now, they held him down and mercilessly beat him. Good. A police officer was stated later saying, if we hadn't got there, they would have killed him. Which I'm glad that they got there and that he had to go to jail. when the police officer came through the crowd to arrest him, Richard Ramirez said to the police officer, thank God you came. Oh, you mean thank Satan, you dumb pussy, asshole.

You mean Satan, you fucking dumbass? Like, thank God. Oh, I'm sorry, you believe now? Talk about a fake motherfucker. Oh, you're thanking God suddenly that you're alive, that somebody spared you? Yeah, and you know what? No one spared you, sweetie, because guess where you're going. knowing that he looked up at a police officer and said, thank God you're here.

I, that, that's, mm, no, no, no, no, no. That's delicious. It's delicious. I wish that police officer kicked him in the face. It was like, swear to Satan, bitch. Well, there's actually pictures of him, like, being led away from this and in the police car. His head is, like, fucking violently bleeding.

Good. He looks like he got the shit. Good. The back of his shirt is black, and you can see the blood stains on the back of the shirt. So it's great. I'll post some of those, too. They're great pictures.

You want to, fuck with people, they'll fuck right back with you. This is literally my favorite way that is your killer. Like, no, you can't top that. I feel like they should all be taught that way. And later, the police said they were like, we are so, like, the police, and you would think that, like, maybe the police would feel like they'd have to be like, don't take vigil anti-justice. No, do it. The police came out and we're like, like, all the investigators were like, we are so proud of our community right now. Like, you guys are fucking lost. Because that's just not like your average job. Because he had terrified the community for over a year.

A year. It's like, more than a year. So when this whole news broke, Julian Ramirez, Richard's father, was bewildered by the things that people were saying his son had done. And he was quoted as saying, in my heart, I can't believe he would have arrived at that. But if the authorities there have proof, what can we do? Yeah, Julian, you must have zero idea why your son could do something so fucking terrible, right? Like, he didn't know. You definitely didn't abuse him. You didn't allow his mother to breathe toxic fumes while pregnant with him.

You didn't let him hang out with his sociopathic cousin Mike. You definitely didn't let him move in with his other sisters, peeping Tom husband. And then you didn't let him move to L.A. to live on Skid Row when he was 16. Yeah, you have no idea why he could have turned out to be a bad guy, right? Yeah. He can't, he's bewildered. How? We were, like, fuck you, Julian.

Thanks a lot, Julie. Like, I'm not saying it was totally his parents' fault, but I'm saying, like, you played a hand. Regardless of what happened here, like with him, it's like, you created a violent human being. You sure did. Because you showed him violence. So it's like, fuck you for being like, what? Yeah. He's a violent person?

That's crazy. Like, I know I am. You beat his mother and his siblings and him on the reg. Like, fuck you, Julian. That just pissed me off. No, that makes me mad too. So now an interesting thing is he called every woman he encountered a bitch during the attacks, because I'm sure that was probably, probably partly his father.

sure his father said awful things to his mother while he was beating the shit out of her. Yeah. And then also, cousin Mike was teaching him not to give shit about women, so I'm sure that was put in there somewhere. Now, because this was such a prominent thing that he said, when they had a lineup that included it with him for the survivors to pick them out, they had them all say, shut up, bitch, because they wanted them to be sure that that was the voice. That's just a little interesting tidbit.

That is crazy. Now, his trial became like a shining moment for him because he loved the fucking attention. of course. Because he's a little bitch. He drew pentagrams on his hand and he shouted hail Satan like out of nowhere. And then yeah. And then there was, and some of these pictures, man, are like beyond. I'd be like, do you want us to go get the community again?

He came into court with like aviator sunglasses on. His hair all nicely fluffed out. Nice suit on. And he came in and was like leaning backwards, smirking, like laughing. And then he turned to the like groupies that came because oh yeah. What the fuck is? wrong with you. And it was like the same with Ted Mundy. They would fucking come and sit

behind him. No, I have no problem saying what the fuck is wrong with you. Yeah. No, that kind of shit, it's like what the, especially with Richard Ramirez. And how disrespectful to the family and the people that he would turn around and like wink at them and smile at them and like, I posted one where he was

waving behind him. This fucking creepy ass talent fingers. They had to like do something with one of the jurors because he was like literally like seducing her across the room and she was like getting into it. Like also Chica, he has halitosis. Exactly. So it's like, really, really.

So like we said, he had a ton of groupies, but the luckiest lady of them all was Doreen Lioi. She was like a magazine editor, like a freelance magazine editor. And people said she was a fucking, like she lived in a fantasy world and was like a recluse herself. She wrote him upwards of 75 letters during his incarceration. And in 1988, he proposed to her. and on October 3rd, 1996, they got married in San Quentin State Prison. Like, what is wrong with you? Now, for a while, she claimed that she was going to commit suicide when he was executed.

But they ended up separating before that happened because, weirdly enough, that marriage did not work out. How do you propose to somebody when you're in prison? I don't really know. Like, I have this licorice that I could maybe turn into a ring. Would you lack this licorice? So then, on September 20th, 1989, he, He was convicted of 13 counts of murder, five attempted murders, 11 sexual assaults, and 14 burglars. Jesus Christ.

Now, those are just the ones they could prove. There was money more off, obviously. He was sentenced to die in California's gas chamber on November 7, 1989. When he was brought out after this sentencing, he smirked at the cameras and it's on tape. Yeah. We'll, like, play a little clip of it. And said, big deal, death always went with the territory. See you in Disneyland.

What the fuck? The trial actually caused $1.8 million. It was the most expensive in California's history until OJ surpassed it in 19, what was it, 96. That's wild. Yeah. So while in, this is really interesting, actually. While in jail in 1987 awaiting trial, he was actually in the same jail as Sean Penn, who was in there for reckless driving and punching an extra on the set of the movie like he's known for,

because he's known for being like a hothead. they saw each other around and shit and after about a month Ramirez asked him asked a guard for pen's autograph and Ramirez then wrote pen a letter later saying quote hey Sean stay tough and hit them again Richard Ramirez 666 what the fuck Sean wrote back go fuck yourself quote you know Richard it's impossible to be incarcerated and not feel a certain kinship with your fellow inmates. Well, Richard, I have done the impossible. I feel absolutely no kinship with you. I hope gas descends upon you before sanity does. Good. Which is an awesome response. That is awesome. So I thought that was interesting. But unfortunately, on June 7, 2013.

A day before my birthday. Yeah. He died at Marin General Hospital from liver failure due to complications from B-cell lymphoma. He also had several complications from years of substance abuse and chronic hep C viral infections. So his body basically just shit the bed. Wow. Now at the end, he turned bright highlighter green

because the reason for that is liver failure is often associated with jaundice. And he had a very severe case. So there's a substance called Billy Rubin and it builds up and causes jaundice. And it's created when hemoglobin, which is the part of the red blood cell that carries oxygen around your body. It's when it breaks down.

Normally, that's flushed out when you pee or poop. But when it builds up, then it turns you green because the substance itself is green. So he was just so full of shit. So he was so full of just dirty, fucking toxic. He was evil. Billy Rubin that he was dead. Wow. So yeah.

Richard Ramirez. And I think he was only like 53 years old. I wish that he got him to a baller. He spent like 23 years on death row. I like that. Sean Penn wrote him and said that. I love that. That's my favorite part too.

That is a great one. So yeah. That's the conclusion of Richard Ramirez. That was a dozy. That was a doozy. I'm like, whew. Yeah. Take a breath after that.

I need a captain kind of slurpy after that. I know. Now I get to go in the morgue. I get to go to bed and I'm a little nervous. I know. I think I'm going to listen to a Bravo podcast on the way there. I'm about to listen to straight up with stuff. I'm going to listen to watch what crappens.

Everyone listening to this podcast right now is probably like, who the fuck is Stasi? They're probably all like, what just happened? Did she just die? How did you both just turned? Like that totally the other way. Yeah. Sometimes you got to have like, funny shit. I have two sides to me.

But I need to survive. So all the Gemini haters are going to come out. Well, there's a lot of serial killers that are Gemini's. I know. A lot of, a ton of serial killers are Gemini's. And Virgos, I think. It's like a split personality thing. Yeah.

I got my eyes on you. So, yeah. So that's Richard Ramirez, The Night Stalker Part 2. So what we enjoyed it? What are we going to do next week? How about we hit the Lake Bottom murders from Finland? Yeah, because you just told me about that. Yeah.

And it sounds, I feel like that sounds like the Diet Love Pass. Yeah, it's got like that vibe to it because it's like a mystery. So it's a fun mystery from Finland. And I think, and it's like the big. biggest case from Finland for a while. So I think that's a fun one to do. Camping stories are fucked up. Because it's fucked up. For sure, because all these are going to be fucked up.

But it's less intense. Than this one, it's more like... The Die Out Love Pass was intense in like a... A different... An exciting way. Yeah, it's like conspiracy theory kind of shit. So yeah, we'll do that. We'll do the lake bottom murders. Okay.

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