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Episode Date: October 1, 2020

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Hey guys, Kale from Horsop here, and I'm delivering this message both to the morbid and the Horsop feed simultaneously, so bear with me. But if you guys already know me, then you're fine, you're good. But if you don't know me, like I said a second second ago I'm from a podcast called Horsoop and I am starting or I've already started a podcast called Scream which is a horror movie podcast that I host with Elena from well you know where she's from she's from here she's from morbid she is from true crime and she's good at what she does but now she's venturing into some other stuff.

And we're going to be talking about horror movies every single week on Sunday starting today. So if you want to listen to the show, you can go ahead and, well, first off, you can keep listening to this episode if you want to just listen to it here. But if you want to go and listen to the other two episodes that are out right now, go and search scream that is SCREAM with an exclamation point in your podcast player. And you'll see a nice little colorful artwork, art piece, a little piece of art. And it's going to be me and the lane right on top of that. And that is our show.

So go check it out right now. It's available everywhere. It's going to be coming out every single week from now on. And really just we're really excited to be announcing this. Our music is done by Ethan Hurt from a class of Nukem High. That is the music creator of Class of Nukem High to be specific. And our artwork is done by Casey Booth, a really talented horror artist and bulge as great people. Really glad that this is happening and I hope that you guys enjoy the

show as much as we do. So thank you. I'm the man, man blue, with all the story. Three, yeah. You got the three. You got the three. If you enjoyed that song, those beautifully composed just for us by Ethan Herr, go ahead and check out his website at www.ethanherr.com and if you don't know who Ethan Herr is, come on dude, trauma, class of Newcomhye, what's going on? What are you doing here if you don't know Ethan Herr? Get on it guys. Get on it. Get with it. And in case you don't know and you probably don't, I'm Elena. And I

guess that would make me Kayla, but I think I'm the other part to this. He is. He's the other half. Two halves make a hole. And this is our new podcast. Scream. And you have to say it like that because there's an exclamation point at the end. We're exclamatory. We're excited. What's going on? A lot is going on. I like that. That's what that exclamation point means. I like that. So I think pretty much what we're doing here is that we are covering horror movies. Just all horror movies, I'm sure, you know, based off the music and the artwork, you might think, oh, hey, 80s horror movies podcast. Yeah, no, it's fucking not. Get over it. We're moving on from that now because we're going week to week anal So anal fissure is gonna be covering a movie and narrating a movie one week It's gonna be her pick entirely and the next week

The me the canals the canals of the of the anal cavity will be narrating and picking a movie the next week and Elena kind of comes from a background of a very witchy 2000s movies. That's what I'm going to go ahead and say. Yeah, I love witchy 2000s movies. I'm very trash 80s like disgusting grotesque stuff. Which I can definitely get down with, but you Such an array at your I mean you're gonna expose me to things. I'm sure I'm gonna be very upset about Exposed to look Alayna you're gonna be upset emotionally Physically sometimes you might need to vomit a few times depending on how far we get into this and what I do because the thing is Right off the bat right off the bat,

right off the fucking bat, Elena just drops the worst movie ever. First, she tried to do another one. I'm not gonna mention it, because we'll probably do it later. But she drops a movie that I was like, worried about, really, really worried about. And then it turned out to be really good.

And I was like, oh shit, I actually like this. And then all of a sudden, she's like, oh wait, hold on, let's change it to the worst piece of trash that you've ever seen your life, that you're never gonna watch again, that you had a terrible time watching. Yep, and I knew it. Like I knew it, that other movie,

we're definitely gonna cover, because that other movie is legendary. But this one, I was like, oh Caleb's gonna hate this one. And I do, you're very right, you weren't wrong about that. I knew it, but there's a really weird thing, is that first of all, the movie's secret window from 2004 if you're wondering, Johnny Depp terrible. The thing is, you are the only person in the world that likes it.

I, you know what? It's lonely on this island, but I feel okay about it. I know some people are going to message and be like, I loved it. And I'm going to be like, yeah, there you are. I knew you were in there. And we'll high five over the internet. Elena. It's going to happen. I'm telling you, there's all these secret, secret window heads that are just going to come floating out of the atmosphere after this. You know, this is based off of like a very short novella, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, I know. It's in that book.

He has a book. It's, I think it's called Two Pass Midnight. I think it is Stephen King. I don't know what that is. You're the reader here. We know that Stephen King adaptations, like they're not killing it. They're not. They're not killing it.

I think this is one of the better ones though. Is it? I feel like it is. No. No, it's not. That was a rhetorical question. That wasn't me asking you like, is it? Go ahead and defend yourself. That was me saying. No, it's not. The answer to that question is no. This is one of the worst. But you know, it changes a lot of the novella. Because it's 15 minutes. What are you going to, you have to it changes a lot of the novella because it's 15 minutes What are you gonna you have to just yeah push a bunch of bullshit with this guy David Keop or co-ep whatever first of all I Hey, is it a cap? Probably I hate how he looks I think it's cap. I hate every Fucking bit of him. Yeah, David cap is the director and he has

Personally hurt Caleb in like a real way. People are going to fucking mess and be like he worked on Jurassic Park. He had ties with Spider-Man blah blah blah and yeah I'll give you that. Those are good movie. I don't fucking care. He made the worst thing in the fucking world. Well, the problem with this and we'll get into it. I'm sure is that he's this is one

I feel like he took the opportunity with this movie to like show off all his cool film like film class tricks That's what it is in film school. Well, he was like look at this neat shot. I can shoot for no reason But you know, I don't know he he wrote spider-man the original Stobby or told me to Buggler Spider-Man in 2002. Two years before this. That's a good idea. Yeah, but it's like, you know, it wouldn't you think that like, you know, maybe he'd look at something Sam Raimi doesn't go like, hey, that's a good director. Maybe I'll use some of that. But no, he was like, I'm gonna do my own thing. And it's gonna be great. In Caleb is gonna hate it. You know, the the thing is I think this guy might be a kind of decent writer and like some things

Mm-hmm, but if you look at the things he's directed You don't care. Yeah, it's true. You know fucking care. It's really you know what he directed What did he direct? He directed that fucking movie with Kevin Bacon and Amanda Sifre that I dropped for you. Oh, the new one! You should have left? That's him! Oh shit, really? Uh-oh. So I already know that I don't want to watch that. Now I already knew I didn't want to watch it. But this was 2004.

So maybe he's grown. He's grown. I don't know, man. By 2020. You're gonna have to vet that for me And I'm still not gonna believe you after this. I'll vet it for you because I love Kevin Bacon So I will absolutely vet that for you just to watch Kevin Bacon. Anyone wants to listen to my other show Horsopep you'll see immediately that um, I don't like Kevin Bacon There's a there's like five different episodes where I express my hatred for Kevin Bacon and his wrinkly fucking body. So the fighting continues because I love Kevin Bacon.

And you know what, I have this ongoing argument that no one thinks Kevin Bacon is attractive and I know you fall in that category of the three people that do. You know what it is? He's, it was from like Apollo 13 days. He looks like a fucking raisin. Yeah, I could see that.

It's from Apollo. It's from the Apollo 13 days when like him and Tom Hanks, and like, who else was in that billpaxed in at the time watching it. I was like, what, like, 10. And at the time I was like, yeah, okay, why are they in this, like, whatever, they're just astronauts. But now as like a 30-something. I look I looked at Apollo 13 recently And I was like what babes in this? Oh look at this beautiful raising-bodied man with a pig face. Oh

I'm saying Kevin Bacon foot loose. That's all I'm saying loose get on it loose Get up you bacon nose. Oh geez Get up, you're baking nose. Oh geez. Louis. And then no one knows the rest of that song. So maybe we should talk about this $40 million movie that barely made any, it made $92 million, which I know you might hear that and be like, oh, it made $92 million. It's a $40 million movie.

Yeah. I know. You know, and oh, it made $92 million. It was a $40 fucking million movie. Yeah. I know. You know, and oh, you wanna talk about the Columbia Pictures thing? Oh yes. Do you wanna talk about that? Because I'm positive that when this came out and they saw how much this made, they were like,

hey, so a keyop or a cap, whatever your name is. I don't even know your name, because you're an idiot. You made a movie with Stephen King's name on it. Johnny Depp was the lead actor, and you barely made double of the $40 million budget. You like barely got back what you spent. Yeah, you went a little over, and who knows if advertising is a part of that budget,

I really hope it is. I fucking hope it is. It has to be. It truly has to be. So, Elena, this is your pick. You're gonna be narrating this, and I am going to stop you a good amount of times because I actually have my own notes, but I think I'm going to ignore those more than anything for my notes specifically on what David Kiyop says about

this movie. I'm going to, you're going to be talking about scenes and I'm going to be breaking down what David, what he thinks is happening in the movie. I kind of love that. I'm down for that. You're just gonna break in and yell about David, Keop, Cap, Kup, Kabbap, who knows? Yeah. Well, rotten tomatoes kind of agrees with you because it has a 46%. It has a 6.6 on IMDB, which I think is too high for IMDB.

I think it should have like a 3. I'm impressed by that, actually. It's weird. I don't know. They're done some weird shit sometimes. It's weird. I don't know. They're done some weird shit sometimes. To be honest, I was actually surprised at the 46% because I thought it might be lower because I know a lot of people did not like this movie. But like 46, that's, you know, we'll take it.

Look, here's the weirdest thing. I'm telling you guys, just watch the making of the director's thing on YouTube. It's like an hour-ish long. You're going to hate it, but like Johnny Depp is in it for like five minutes. Everyone like fucking I think I think Hutton was in it for like two minutes. Yep. Like they're not in there really. It's just this director just talking about what he thinks the movie is for an hour and I have this really strong theory in my eyes that he was just watching the movie on mute in front of him and he was just going seen by seeing because he couldn't even remember the movie because nothing happened in it.

It kind of makes sense. I'm gonna be honest. As much as nothing happens, I still love this movie. I don't know what I can't hate it. I can't hate it. I can't do it. I want to hate it for you, but I can't. Well, I can't agree, but you know what? we're riffing a lot, I can go on forever just about how I hate this movie, but I guess let's get into the actual movie now. All right, we'll get into this.

So, I think maybe one of the reasons why I love this movie is because it's, I mean, it's what Stephen King does. It's he writes movies about writing, like about writers writing and the process of writing. So I think seeing it and seeing Johnny Depp as Morton Rainey, this like super weird eccentric, super ticky, like super successful writer. Okay, I'm gonna cut you off immediately.

What is it? Is it Morton Rainey? It's two things, it's two things that you just said. Morton, Johnny Depp does not know how to be a human. Like, he's not a person. He's not acting like a writer or anything like an eccentric writer. He's acting like... Johnny Depp. Yeah, he's acting like a fucking pirate.

Yeah, he was still in Jack's spare mode. Yeah, he does sure. He didn't know how to get out of that mode, and he's just Jack's spare of the whole fucking time, but human version. And then the fucking, what did you say about the direction or something a second ago? Oh, because Stephen King writes about like writing. Yeah, so Stephen King writes about writing.

David, Keob literally was like, hey, so, you know, looking at a movie about a guy just writing, that's boring, but I think we found a way to make it fun and exciting. And no, he didn't. Okay, go on. That's what I decided. He made it.

A cinematic adventure is what he made it. So speaking of Pirates of the Caribbean, they released to this movie a little early just to like ride off that Pirates of the Caribbean vibe. Yeah. Because they knew Johnny Depp, everybody was all about him at the time. They wanted a bank on that. Doesn't sound like it worked in the world. It did not work. But, you know, a for effort, guys, you tried. And it's another like isolation, another isolation setting that Stephen King loves, like, you know, the Shining,

misery. Pet cemetery. Yeah, exactly. So the first scene, and this kind of goes with what we were talking about earlier, the first scene is Johnny Depp as like we said Morton Rainey. And he's in a car, it's like snowing wildly, and he's telling himself like turn the car around, he's clearly upset. And you're like, what the fuck's going on? Prominently displaying a wedding ring. So you know shit's about to go down with a marriage. It's just like boom right in the camera.

Which I will give you that directional wise. That's just like, hey look, he's's married something's gonna happen with his marriage immediately David Kiehop says something specifically about that in in the making of yeah He breaks down that scene and this is this the breakdown of it. I didn't even see that and I knew it I'm gonna do it in his voice. Please do so I wanted it to be snowing and windy and cold I wanted it to be snowing and windy and cold. I wanted it to snap on the screen. Snow?

Cut in. No pan. I wanted you to think, oh, who's he? He seems upset. What is he doing? Why is he in that car? Where is he going? Oh, why is he stop now?

I wanted it to say, is our guy this is him pay attention I wanted the movie to snap onto the screen I wanted to cut on not not fade up just a guy's face and have him looking right into the camera and just wonder oh who's he he seems upset what is he doing why is he sitting in that car now he's going backwards why is he doing that where is he now he stopped again what's with this guy you know I wanted to really draw you in with a lot of What is he doing? Why is he sitting in that car? Now he's going backwards, why is he doing that? Where is he going? Now he's stopped again. What's with this guy? You know, I wanted to really draw you in

with a lot of questions. And me on my side, what the fuck are you talking about? What the absolute... You know what? Those are just things. Those are just, I'm not thinking, oh, who is this guy? What, oh, what, what, are you, he's in a car,

he's looking at me. What's... Those thoughts are on going through my head. What went through my head in that beginning scene is this guy's a fucking moron. I don't already know that you're my main character. You don't need to show me this guy just sitting here and go, oh yeah, I need you to think, this is the main character.

I already fucking know that. He's the first person on screen and he's Johnny Depp. It's like, we're not doing a scream, drew Barrymore, and then killer off right away, kind of thing. No. No, you didn't look at it and go, this then like killer off right away kind of thing. No. You didn't look at it and go, this is our guy. That's what I did. I was like, oh, this is our guy. That's immediately what I thought.

Yeah, I was no about you. God, I'll lay it out. Well, this is awesome. This is awesome. I'm a break, yeah. I was thinking at first that I was like, I can't show her these really fucked up movies because she's gonna quit

She's gonna leave I think I think I need to I need to go there. We're doing a survey in film next week. Oh, shit I'm break I'm done. We're doing a Serbian fair. We're doing 120 days of Sodom. Oh, no. Oh God. I Had no idea that secret window would take me to these Which you you sent me a text. Okay guys guys are laying a set me a text that was like oh I didn't know that Johnny Depp was gonna break you and you know what I said I said I fucking did I Did if you told me that you know who knew that me if you told me at any time Hey, what what movie what horror movie would break you?

I would say a movie with Johnny Depp or Kevin Bacon. And I just didn't know that. It was just, it was just Kizmit. But it's not that happened. Now here we are. And here we are. Here we are. Well, well, you know, our guy who we've established is both of our guys, Johnny Depp, Morton Rainey,

the man himself. Johnny Depp, Morton Rainey, the man himself. He's in the car like, you know, David Kabab said is all the, the snow's going everywhere. Morton Rainey, Rainey, do you know what that's based off of? Morton Salt, right? Because there is a girl with an umbrella on the fucking Morton Salt. Morton Rainey, and he also purchases Morton Salt later, just to be like, bobo bobo bobo. At the store, it's one of like four things he purchases.

He does, it's true. Well, he's in the car, he's telling himself to like turn around, he's clearly upset, you know, shit's about to go down. And he squeals the car around. He's about to leave, he doesn't leave, he gets out of the car, goes in this like creepy motel, and he just, nobody's at the desk, so he just grabs the keys off the wall. So I was like, first of all, how do you know which keys you're supposed to get? But I guess maybe he like creeped and found it out.

We've all done that. That was one thing that the director did right. He was like, maybe I don't need to show him getting these keys in real time, but then he screws it up every other time in the movie. So, you know, it's fun. So we'll take that. We'll take it.

Well, he storms any grabs it. Get's back in the car and he drives up to this room in the corner of the motel. He like shines his headlights on the door. We watch from inside the car as he goes in the hotel room. And he barges in and boom. There's his, what we know now is his wife Amy played by Maria Bello also in coyote ugly just saying and she's in bed with a dude who is Timothy Hutton we later found out his name is toad of course his name is toad

dumb name everybody yeah you have to have a toad well and they have clearly fuked and this is clearly Morton Rainey's wife, so that's no good. And, but one thing I did love was that they just have him scream in their faces. Like he just leans over and screams in their faces. You want some on that? I do, because I loved that,

because I was like, that's real. Like I would have done that. I would have just screamed in their faces. You just ruined my whole point, but I'm still gonna tell you what it was, because I was gonna, that's real. Like I would have done that. I would have just screamed in their faces. You just ruined my whole point, but I'm still gonna tell you what it was because I was gonna argue against that. Oh. I was already on the other side of that.

So. This is amazing. Kabab is like, hey, so I have this big thing about Johnny Depp screaming scene. He's like, yeah, it has to do with Mario Belo and Timothy Hutton or Maria. What was her name? Maria Belo. Maria Belo. Yeah, Maria Belo. Maria Belo, we're fucking everywhere. Maria Belo and Timothy Hutton or Maria. What was her name? Maria Belo.

Maria Belo. Maria Belo. Maria Belo. She sucks. He's like, hey, you know, it's them in a dark room for 20 minutes waiting for Johnny to come inside and do this stupid fucking scream. And he's like, but you know what, that was me. That was Johnny's idea.

He wanted to come in and he said, he said, quote unquote, I wanted to use my voice as a weapon. Oh, no, that's not what I want. Oh, good. Thank you. I didn't want that. I hated that. We do put a little bit extra with his scream to, to, because that was Johnny's ideas. He wanted to, he understood I didn't want to hear any dialogue and he said, I feel like I want to just go up to the bed and scream at them sort of like using voices, weapon, and it seemed like a great idea, so he did it. No, I didn't, that's, once I hear that, I hate it, because I was just thinking it as like

I would just be so like, like I can understand being so insane that you're just like I'm so angry right now all I can do is just scream like animalistically at you. He was fighting them with his ah No, hate that. Hate that a lot and they edited his scream too. Did you notice that they like put like reverb and shit on it? So it's like Crazy. Yep, and then we find out later that he actually didn't use his voice as a weapon. He held a gun at them. So this is like a little work. Yeah, later in the movie.

Is that like the reveal later? Yeah. And we'll see like later it's going to all reveal. You see that he actually was pointing a gun at them. So. Okay. So he did not use his voice as a weapon, Johnny. Hmm.

I do like the score of this movie though. I always love in a horror movie or like a thriller when there's that like Womp sound I always like a good like yeah, I like the wamp sound like that really like chaotic like Cacophony of sounds just coming at you. Yeah, I just Johnny desk screaming over and over again That should have been the score. Exactly. It really should have. Well, so then we just end there. You're just like, whoop, and then it's this nice shot of like, you know, the opening titles, the secret window titles. And we go to a cabin, on a lake, and we pan into a secret window. Crazy. Did I mention the tagline? No you didn't. The tagline is some windows should

never be opened. That's just a statement. Sure is. It's not a tagline. Like you know what? Some windows are secret. No that's ridiculous. We should call it secret window. I think that that was like their original title and they were like, we can't name it that. Yeah, they were like, that's too long. So let's just, let's use it as the tagline and really draw people in. Made me want to see it. I was like, really?

Did you watch his in theaters? I feel like you watch his in theaters. I did see this in theaters. You did? I did. That's unfortunate. It really is. That would have been a movie that I asked

for my money back on. I would have left. I walked out of it and I asked for my money back on. I would have left. I walked out of it and I was like, what a masterpiece. I'm into it. I would have left 15 minutes in. I would have been like, hey, this was the ending you ever I'm with. You can stay and watch it. Tell me if I'm right.

And they would have walked out. They would have been like, yeah, you're right. I loved it. But you know what? I asked John, my husband. I was like, do you remember watching this movie with me? He did not remember one second of this movie so it made quite an impact on You can tell he was like no, I did not see this movie

So he did good. Thank God cool super glad it you know marked itself in your soul So we scan right through the secret window, which will become important later. Like a little secret window in this cabin on the lake. And we're going in, we got like the dog sleeping in the corner, there's a desk with a laptop open and it's the beginning of a novel. So he's writing a novel in a cabin on a lake like we all do. And the novel says on the screen, you can see the beginning of it and it says four days after George had confirmed to his own satisfaction that his wife was cheating on him he confronted her. I have to talk to you Abby he said I dot

dot dot and then nothing else. So as you can tell he's definitely super creative and he's not drawing from his own experience at all. And then we pan down to Morton Rainey on the couch asleep downstairs wearing the most tattered fucking bathrobe you've ever seen in existence. He looks a fucking hot mess and it says it's six months later. So immediately you're like boom six months later. Oh, I couldn't have figured that out. Couldn't have figured out that some time had passed. Some amount of time has passed. And this shot is interesting because this shot, we see after the camera goes through a mirror,

like you go through the mirror and you see him in the mirror sleeping and then you pass through the mirror and suddenly you're like in the shot. And apparently the director, Kabab there said that this was was supposed to symbolize going into Morts mind and now being super reliable on like you have to rely on him now as the narrator Then that's why you see the person that you see next look Elena because we're in his mind now I'm so glad that you mentioned that I am I'm really glad because Because All right. So because it's genius. Kabab really takes the role of Richard Kelly after Donnie Darko, but the

only difference is that Donnie Darko is a good entertaining movie. I love Donnie Darko. I will say that Richard Kelly is kind of ridiculous. My friend did point this out to me. It was like, hey, this guy is just explaining all of this stuff after the fact to make his movie make sense. And I was like, you know what, you're kind of right? But it's still a good movie. And even if it doesn't make sense, it's still a good movie. This, however, is not.

And this guy is doing the Richard Kelly. And he's trying to explain everything after the fact. And there's no fucking way that when he did this mirror shot, he was thinking, oh yeah. That you're in Mart's mind. But I kind of love it after the fact and there's no fucking way that when he did this mirror shot he was thinking. Oh yeah. Now you're in Mart's mind. But I kind of love it after the fact. I don't. Because then later, it will see later, you go through the mirror again and suddenly you're

in reality and that's why you can't see the things that you see before. Yeah, I just love things that I would watch in a movie theater that would have no relevance to me. By the time I left the movie theater, I love that stuff, you know, I really... Well, that's the other thing. It's like, yeah, totally cool. Like not one person in the history of the world would ever look at that and be like, you know what I bet that is?

That's exactly that. So, in that vein, that's very ineffective. In that vein. If you have to explain it later in a making of to get people to understand it, then it's really not a good way to do it. No, it's not. I'll concede on that one. Okay.

So, do you want to, let's get into a John Shooter. Yes. So, now we get John Shooter. And he's played by John Tutoro. And I think he's great in this movie. I will say that John Tutoro's pretty fucking awesome. He is, he's a great fucking actor. I think this is the worst role in the world

and I'm so upset that he had to be on this. I think he just saw Johnny Depp's name and he was like, oh yeah, sure, cool. He was like, let's do this. Yeah, let's do that. And I think he got fucked over, dude. That hat that they put on him and they say it's been like so much time picking the hat there like it has to look

Good like kind of unreal, but not too unreal and it's like dude that looked in real the whole time the first fucking time I saw this guy I'm gonna spoil the movie right now nothing that happens in this movie is real I don't fucking care about any of this and Immediately when I see him when I see fucking shooter I go this guy's not real No one is around when this guy's here. No one's seeing him except for Johnny Depp. It is in his head. I predicted this movie 10 minutes in.

Just because of the hat. I'm not kidding. Elena, I'm not lying to you. This is not a bit. This is not me saying like, oh, this hat is so ridiculous. I was just like, oh, there you go. No, legitimately. I saw that hat and I said, this is not a real guy.

There's no way this is real. No one saw that man walk down the street. You're telling me this guy's just driving around and shit and no one knows where he is. And everyone's saying, this guy just doesn't exist. So yeah, he doesn't fucking exist. I never second guessed it. The hat is a huge part of things, too.

It is. They really focus on that hat. It's not like they put that hat there and we're like, yeah, that's fine. You can forget about that hat. No, they're like, bitch, don't forget about this hat. And in fact, at one point, he's like, I want my hat. Like he says it again.

Like he uses his hat and it's like, bring me back my hat. Well, when he shows up initially, he wakes Mort up from his slumber on the couch. And he's like, you stole my story. Like that's like one of the first things he says. And Mort's like, excuse me, what? Like. And more it's like, um, excuse me what? Like I don't know who you are, what? And he insists that he's he had written a story and that mortgainy stole it. They go back and forth. And he tries to hand him this like thick

ass manuscript. And he's like, here you go. Read my manuscript. And he's like, no, no, I'm not touching that shit. Yeah, just throws it away. Yeah, and the guys like, we're gonna settle this shit. And he's like, yeah, no, okay, it's settled by. And he just shuts the door. And then you hear some shit happening on the porch. And what he did was his name's John Shooter and he left the manuscript under this rock on the porch. And the fucking maid gets it?

And he's so mean to his housekeeper. He is so shitty this made. He's literally just like, oh yeah fuck you are you doing this and that and blah blah blah get out of my face. Cause he tosses the manuscript in the trash and then just goes in like has a nap again. Well she's also really weird cause she's a little strange. She's digging in the trash and she's like, oh yeah I saw this thing that you wrote that's in the trash like okay if it was His and he threw it away. He probably doesn't fucking want it probably threw it away for a reason You don't just accidentally throw away an entire script Well, that's the thing cuz he goes what he goes and has a nap. He like tries to write again. He like plays with a slinky

His hair is like super upsetting and then he walks downstairs and the manuscript is on the table. Did you just move past that slinky thing casually? Just the slinky. He plays with a slinky. He was just sitting in front of you. That's what you do when you have Riders block. You sit in front of your laptop and you just slinky. That's what I do. You just use the slinky.

That's all you do. That's what I do. Whenever I write, I pull out my slinky and just slink back and just do it. It gets a creative juice flowing. Is that why you like this movie just go to the slinky back and just do it. It gets creative juices flowing. So why you like this movie just go to the slinky? That's it. That dammit. I felt very connected to it.

I was like, we are one. He understands me. Well, he goes downstairs after slinking a little bit. And the manuscript is on the table. And like we said, he had thrown it away. So his housekeeper's like, oh, hey, I found that in the trash. I thought it was one of yours. And again, I agree. Oh, and he's so pissed.

He's like, my name is not John Shooter. Do you think my fucking name is John Shooter? Do I look like a shooter? And by the way, she's like a sweet elderly woman. Like, I was like, you need to calm down. And then she's like, oh, I thought you were using one of those like, you know, pseudonyms or pet names. And he's like, no, I never have.

I've never done that. And he's like, okay, like chill. And he mimes shooting her in the head when she turns around. Oh, he does, yeah, he does. And I was like, whoa, more like calm down. And there's also, that's like a theme through this movie. He mimes killing people a lot. Look when you're Johnny

Dept everyone around you is a fucking cunt and you just have to mimic shooting all of them. Apparently he That was sear. I was like she did not warrant that kind of Sus is trying to help you out bro Like more chill and he does it later too and then he starts like reading it because of course. And he's looking at it and he's like, oh, this sounds like really familiar. And it's like, yeah, you play a jurized motherfucker. You know it. And he goes and gets the book out of his shelf

because he has all his books on a shelf, of course. I mean, I would too if I was published, but whatever. That was just gonna be a dick about it. But he gets the book out. Also the author photo, like of him in that book is the most ridiculous off author photo I've ever seen. He looks ridiculous. I don't even remember it. I'm not going to...

It's so fake. Like looking at it, I was like, that's so fake. I don't even know if that's Johnny Depp. I couldn't be someone else. I'm not even sure. But it's like a collection of short stories, Allah, Stephen King. You know, it's really not hard to be a Johnny Depp double. I could be a Johnny Depp double if I tried a little bit. Especially you really could, especially in this movie too, if you could like make your hair crazy like that. Yeah, because he refused to cut his fucking hair for this movie.

He did, yeah. I kind of love that though, because his hair gets really aggressive at one point. Like it assaults you at one point, and I kind of love that. But he finds the, he finds the story is called Secret Window, you know, about a boot. And it's story, I think it was story number eight.

He goes through it. He's comparing it line by line. And it's exactly the same. Like, there's maybe like one or two words that are different. It's just the ending that's different. Because that's the only thing. She goes pissed off because he fucked up the ending. He's like, this is my story.

This is my story. This is my pissed off because he fucked up the ending. He's like this is my story This is my story is my ending and you fucked up my ending and now I'm gonna kill you I'm gonna shoot you have three days to find a magazine. I give you three days You call your ex and get her to send you to magazine with your story in it if there is such a magazine I love his accent so much. Well, in this story, weirdly enough, is about a woman loving her garden. More than she loved this man and the story, and he's planning to kill her and bury her in her secret garden. So he's comparing the stories, and as he's doing that, there's like this flashback. This is like this flashback. And it's him in that cabin, and it's his wife,

now ex-wife, Amy. And she's up there with him, and she like moves, and she's wearing the robe, the robe that he's wearing. It was her robe. Now you're like, oh, there's that. Where in all the time? And he wears it all the fucking time in this movie. I hate that robe so much.

Like I understand, because we all have a robe like that, but like, stop, just stop. Don't wear it all the fucking time in this movie? I hate that robe so much. Like I understand, because we all have a robe like that, but like, stop, just stop. Don't wear it all the time, and it's ripped. I sold my robe. You sold your robe? I sold it. I sold it. It's gone.

It's just given away, you sold it. I sold it, got like 13 bucks. Sold that shit. He should have sold, he could have given this robe away. He should have sold his status as an actor after this movie. Wow. I'm saying that I'm fucking saying that. Don't be deaf. You're not invited on the show. No matter what I'm saying. Oh, man. Oh, no. I need to say. God. Well, either way, he's in this fucking robe, but she, it's her robe.

And we're seeing it in the flashback. And she's moving shit. And then she's like, oh, look. And she goes a secret window over a secret garden. Because she's looking out that little secret window that we came in through. And so already, you're like, you're going to die and end up in that garden, honey. Yeah, I'm like, already. Already.

I was like, well, that's gonna happen. So, spoiler alert. But, so he sees that the story is at the same. And he's like, oh shit. So, at this point, he started, this is when we start seeing him like take out cigarettes and like smoke them, but then he tells everybody he doesn't smoke.

Another huge tell, because the first time you see John Shooter smoking, he pulls out the same, it not the same, no, no no not the same cigarette. It's the same pack. Oh you're right It is the same exact brand of cigarettes not only that it has the top ripped off and there's one cigarette in it It is the same exact pack of cigarettes. Oh you're correct. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, that's another big tell. I was like, dude, it's his box. It's the one that we've, because we've already seen his like three times, and you see John Scherppold out, he's like, hey, you want the cigarette?

And then, that's, yeah, it is fucking his. It is, you're right. I didn't even think of that. You texted me, you fucking texted me too when I first started it, because 20 minutes in, I was was like I hate this This is stupid and you were like, oh no, there's a real big twist in there. I I really believed in that In my heart of hearts. I believed in that Believe it never I was just gonna ask you if you told me that before you rewatch the movie

But apparently you still believe it so never mind. I did I believe it now cool. That was after I had rewatched it I was like just wait for that twist man. It's gonna blow your socks very cool It looks cool cool cool Well, this is when he like he like smokes a cigarette and then his housekeeper comes up the sweet old lady that he just mime shooting Her fucking brains out yes in the kitchen. Yes, and she comes up and the sweet old lady, that he just mimed shooting her fucking brains out in the kitchen. Yes, right. And she comes up and she just is, she's like, all right, I'm gonna leave.

But she tells him, she does this whole spiel where she's like, some women, they don't know what good thing when they got it. Some women don't know they got the whole world and it's right in front of their nose. And then she goes, that's it, not another word. And she goes to walk downstairs and again, he's like, fuck you, I hate you. Like, he's so mean to word. And she goes to walk downstairs and again he's like fuck you, I hate you. Like he's so mean to her and I was like she's just telling you that like she

sorry your wife cheated on you and she thinks you're wonderful. Like why are you being so mean, Mort? Like I said, we're just living in Johnny Depp's world. We are because it doesn't make any sense and she's and then I loved it though because she's like you're a good man, Mr. Rainey. And then he replies, you too, Mrs. Garvey. And I loved that. I was like, okay, I love that. But so, again, he takes one of about his zillion naps. Again, he's always an appin' on that coach.

He's mumbling and just being a dick. And he's freaking out about the stories. Like, I didn't steal it. I know I didn't steal it. He's freaking out. Fals asleep, of't steal it I know it didn't steal it he's freaking out falsely of course has a dream about John shooter because now he's gonna be paranoid as fuck this is I'm gonna spoil it there's the dog right this no this isn't the dog yet we're not there yet god how are we talking about this this much I know it's hard not to there is a dog though

so you know the dog's gonna get it anytime. There's a movie and that dog in these movies You're like, oh no, and which I hate. It's the worst part. So phone call wakes him up. Of course, it's Amy his ex-wife. She's just You know pretending that she gives a shit and she's like I thought something was wrong with you And he starts miming strangling her over the phone. Oh, yeah immediately come down But she does mention in this phone call that he was influenced at times by Jack Daniels. So you start to see that like, okay, like they had other problems in their marriage. It's just kind of like setting up the whole like sometimes he drinks too much. And so I think that's what's setting up later. Like is he crazy? Is he drunk? Is he just it's like we don't know.

And she does mention the possibility that he once did plagiarize. Yeah, she does. Like she does say, like you didn't do this, right? Like you did it before, mother fucker. Well, because they have this whole thing. They're alluding to like, oh, like the cops are doing it. She's doing everyone doing like, is this like last time? Is this something we can handle or is this and we're like, what the fuck is?

They never say what last time was? No, I have no idea what they're talking about. He just says at some point like you know I took care of that and I never did again and like you didn't talk about it right and she's like no But they mention it so many times that I needed to know what it was because they mention it what seven times Anyway, I don't know. Like by another story? Look, forget it. What? You swore the one time was the only time.

Forget it, please, please. Just forget it, come on. Mm-hmm. And I just wanted no more. I was like, what? What did he do? Like, what did he play, Joe? I need to know.

And of course, that's the one thing that fucking kabob doesn't talk about. Of course it is. He goes into everything else. He goes into fucking mirrors. kabob doesn't talk about. Of course it is. I'm like, he goes into everything else. He goes into fucking mirrors and he doesn't go into this. Johnny Depp scream mirrors fucking the car shot. Sorry. I had to get the guy who liked the fucking car shot.

And there's another screaming moment at the end. That's amazing. But so then he's just walking around his property out of nowhere. And he comes across John Shooter, just hanging out on his property. Just like, oh, hey. And he just goes, you read it. And he's like, so they start talking about it.

And Shooter is like, I came all the way from Mississippi and I'm gonna prove that you stole this by story. And while they're talking, I would find him. I would find him. I would find him. Right? how does he know his address and especially this cabin in the woods it's not even like his real home like what the fuck like no one questions that he left his house yeah he just like he left his actual house where you could probably find him and the dude found him but I didn't question it I was like

yeah he came from Mississippi and he found him. I tell you right now, everyone else questioned it. I think everyone around me did, but I was like, I'm involved. I suspended reality for this in a big way. But while they're talking, a truck goes by and like the person beeps and waves and we find out later, it's like this old dude Tom

that Mort knows, he plays like a little boy. That's why. So he waves to him and we find out later, it's like this old dude Tom that Morton knows. He plays like a little lighter, that's why. So he waves to him and then they start talking about it and Shooter says that he wrote his story seven years ago in 1997 and he calls him a big money scribbling asshole and it was one of my favorite things ever. Someday I hope to be called a big money scribble. So I don't. I do.

I strive. I strive for it. Not you, Elena, but if anyone calls me that, I will fight you. I'm going to fight you. Just the figure of you out there. I will, John Shooter, you. I will find you.

From Mississippi. I'll come from Mississippi and find you in a big ol' hat. And Mort says he wrote his in 1994. So he's like, I beat you by years. And he says he published it in a magazine in June 1995. It was a mystery magazine. Kepp says something about that too. He's like, oh, so Johnny Depp is like, oh yeah, my book was in 1994. And then he's like, you see, uh, you see Shooter have like a weird face and he's like, no, no. And he's like, he does that because if he actually did write his before his story, then he's not real. Oh, no. Yeah, that's, this is the guy we're dealing

with. I'm really glad I didn't watch this make it. I'm because it would probably ruin a lot of things for me. I watched it twice. I turned it off the second time. I didn't finish it. I turned it to the fuck off the second time. I was pissed. It's true. Because shooter like flips out. Like he flips out and calls him a liar. No way. And he's like, you need to find the end. So Morton Rainey is like, you need to find this magazine. Like go find it and you'll see. Well, and she's shooters like how am I to do this? Your liar mr. Rainey. Wow, that was perfect. You're liar put the emphasis on that Well, and he says am I am I to visit your wife Amy? Do I need to pay her a visit mr. Rainey or you can get me that their magazine? And then he creepily tells him that he read that on his book jacket and he does this

like weird-ass smile and he's like read it on your book jacket. And that was like gross. I would immediately vacate the premises. I'd be like, alright. He put his address on the jacket of this book. Well, that's I'm like, what? Yeah, why? No one questions that either.

I'm like, you didn't know where he lived off the book jacket. Well, that's something like what? Yeah, why? No one questions that either. Like, you didn't know where he lived off the book jacket. You idiot. Like what? And this is this is the time when he offers him a smoke and he pulls out the pack. So that's the time that you were thinking of. This is when he just gives him like the three days. Yeah. He tells him like, you need to go home, you need to give me the magazine, go home, get that. So this is when he goes home, he falls asleep, you see the dog go out the doggy door and immediately you're like, well,

that dog's gonna die. Well, because he doesn't care, he just sees him go out, he's like, ah, whatever. Cheekle. Cheekle. Don't be discouraged. I'm glad to be discouraged I'm gonna be discouraged you blind bastard see if I care in the dog's name is Chico. He's just like yeah Chico, I Blind bastard It's an actual blind dog. It's so mean cuz he's really blind. Yeah, he's actually blind That's a for real blind dog that they had to like this. He was like oh yeah Yeah, the owner out there whistling for him. that's the way he kind of turns around and comes back. I'm like, you're talking to me about a fucking dog turning around and coming back and going in a doggy door.

I'm going to be interested in fun. You're fucking making of. That's what you're talking about. You're talking about that. That is just a thing that he fucking did. Of course a blind dog is gonna turn another way and then and go wherever the sound is coming from. You're so fucking stupid. I hate this guy. I really do. Well, and he- It makes me sad because Sochiko leaves, and it's getting dark, and Morton Rainey just goes to sleep on the couch. He doesn't even care that his dog doesn't come in.

Out at like the night in the forest. Yeah, it's true! And like, and he gets up, he goes outside because he doesn't see Chico when he wakes up, so he sees that the porch light is smashed. And there's a note that says you have three days. I am not joking, no police. It's like, whoa.

All right. So he goes over and there's a sheet on something, pulls the sheet back and there's a dead Chico with a screwdriver through his neck. And he goes with a cops. Yeah, that's not cool. And this cop is like, he's played by Charles S. Duhin. His name is fucking Ken Karsh in the movie. Yes.

And he's like, oh, sorry, throughout your life. And then Depp is like, well, he put a screw in my dog. And the guy's like, huh, doesn't seem that important, I guess. Yeah, he's just like me. And let's be a cat person. What? And he's like, me. Yeah, let's be a cat person. What? And he's like, yeah, go call someone else. No one seems concerned about this. No, no, no, he cares. He's like, go call someone else. This is my job. Yeah, the like shit happens, I guess that sucks. He's like, call a vet.

Call a vet. I don't know. I can't fix that for you. He's dead. This is a Stephen King movie. I know, but we are not pet cemetery. You're in the wrong film. Yeah, wrong one. Wrong one. Chico is gone. I hate to tell you. Well, and so he can agrees that he'll be his security. And he's going to do like surveillance for him. And so he was like, I also want to be there when you show Shooter the Proof. So Morte head stood Amy's house, which is his former house that she knows. And he pulls across the street, which is his former house that she now owns. And he pulls across the street, which is weird. Like, doesn't pull in the driveway and just like waits.

And then she and Ted, the dude that she was fukin' earlier, come walking out, all dressed up, they like kiss. And Ted is like gesturing to the house, like he's gonna renovate something or something which would go on my ass sideways. So I I just just fucking dick it's like he's legitimately another person's house and he's acting like it is and it's not like I know you're dating those girls. He's living in it. It's not your house, but it's like dude. That's not your aunt and Amy are very unlikable characters like when they finally like. No, and when it finally reaches the end

and something happens, you're like, I don't even hate that. It's another movie where you just, you don't care about the characters who died, so it's like, I don't know. You don't root for them at all. You really don't. I cared about Charles Dutton dying.

Yeah, I cared about that. I cared about that in a big way. Well, this is when he's sitting there and he watches them kiss and he says to himself, this is not my beautiful house. This is not my beautiful wife anymore. This is not my beautiful house. This is not my beautiful wife. David burn talking heads. So biggest, biggest issue. I've said that a lot, but I'm gonna, yes, number one biggest issue I've said that a lot but I'm gonna yes number one biggest issue because at first I texted you and I was like you know what the

only cool part of the movie was him saying this is not my beautiful house is not my beautiful wife and then when I watched the making of and everything else it just pissed me off more and more and when I like thought about again I was like I don't like that and I want and in the making of, they show him saying it again. And I listened to the way he said, he's like, this is not my beautiful house. This is not my beautiful life. You just took one of my favorite songs

from one of my favorite bands, from one of my favorite people of all time. Like David Bird might have been a little weird with the whole like Tom Tom Club thing and all that. But like, he's a creative guy that, you know, he does what he does. But you know, beside that, I love David Byrne. I love his music. And this will be so fucking angry.

And you love this film. So it's good that they were, because I think came together. It's good that it all came together for you. I want to hurt myself just for having watched that. Wow. I'm, I'm, I feel powerful that I did this. I really do. I feel power like coursing through my veins right now that I've done this to you. You were saying this might not be the first episode and I think it has to be.

I feel like it must. It must be. We're setting the tone. We're setting the tone right. You're partner on morbid because you are, I guess we haven't said that. You were on also on morbid podcast with a very good friend, Ash. I love Ash. With Ash. Ash. As requested movies on horse soup before and I've done you guys did the craft together. I was fine with that. That's fine. And Ash on her own was like you have to do ma. And I was like

the worst piece of shit I've ever seen in my life. Like very much up there with this. I'd rather watch Modernness. She was really into that one. Very much rather watch Modernness though. I'm gonna say you did. Wow. You fucked me over wayward.

Wayward. I'm so happy. Way more honest. That's like a badge of honor. A little bit. I feel pretty good about it. Back to this shit movie. Do you think?

So back to this shit movie. After he ruins the talking heads for you After he does that He ends up going home without getting the magazine So we drove all the way there to do nothing but recite a talking head song and then leave apparently And he goes back and Ken is there Ken says he's checked the place, but he makes him check it again And he's like all right He was like I it again. And he's like, all right. He was like, I'm pretty sure that he was like, you know,

you're going crazy, but I'm going to stay overnight. Let me know if you need anything. Once he leaves, as soon as he leaves, he thinks he sees somebody in the house. And it's like immediately. And he starts like smashing things. He smashes a wind, like a mirror. He smashes this mirror with a three second hesitation.

Yeah. Like a three second hesitation and unlike a five second count and then he automatically, he audibly says, huh, I killed a mirror. I killed a mirror. And my shower door. And it was a rat. It was a rat.

And he was a little mouse. And he takes the little mouse outside and guess who's outside. John Shooter. As soon as Ken leaves, John Shooter's just there always. little mouse and he takes the little mouse outside and guess who's outside. John shooter. As soon as Ken leaves, John shooters just there always. And I want in John shooters, this is something like, sounds like you pitched a fit in there. And then he's like, yeah, you stole my shit. Like he just goes through the same thing. Every time he sees John shooter, John shooter says the same shit just says it differently and more flowery. I will say that. It annoys the shit out of me. So it's funny. My note right here is

what the fuck is up with Shooter's voice and dialogue. Exactly. There you go. Cause I was getting annoyed. I was like, all right, we get it. He stole your shit. We know he's gonna give it to you. You won't prove yada yada. Yeah, cause I'm sorry. Dev is helping to play this out. Dev is all like. Yeah, because I'm sorry, I'm gonna play this out. No, this is my story. And then she goes, you know it is in pilgrim. I want my ending. Change back to the original. You know what you did.

That's the end, pilgrim. That's how the story ends, Pill Grim. And later you hear Ken use the word Pilgrim when he's talking to, so it further puts in that he's just taking shit from people that are around him to use that job-cheater's personnel. This cop would just be like, oh, hey, Pilgrim, the fuck? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Well, the ending that he wants is the is that the ending that he wants says, I know I can do it. Ted Downey said helping himself to another

ear, a cone from the steam and bowl. I'm sure that in time her death will be a mystery even to me, which is a good ending. So I have more. He says, oh, you do. Uh, you want to wake up from one of your stupid naps and find Amy nailed to your garbage bin or turn on the radio some morning. And here she came on on second best in a match with the chainsaw. You keep out in the shed. Do you? I think he says that later when they meet again, but yes, I have it like right here. So it was like either right here or right after this.

It was like very close to this. It's such an escalation. Such an escalation. I was like, you need to chill. Well, like you said, it's like gonna go. It doesn't matter when it was really because he says similar stuff all the time. It's just like different witty, Mississippi things.

Exactly, Mississippi things. Like he says, he mentions Amy and he says she's perty. Stop it immediately. Stop it immediately, sir. Stop. She's perty. Like that's not even a real thing. Yeah, no, I said, well, nah, I say that. And you know what you're right, it was right then. That he says you want to make up wake up from one of your stupid naps. He ends up going back inside and he's freaking out. By this point his hair has become aggressive, like very aggressive. We have to watch him eating ASMR style. A Doritos like old 2004 Doritos.

Call a whole movie he's eating Doritos. I thought it was a Doritos advertisement. I thought I was watching like Mack and me like when you're seeing the fucking like McDonald's and Coke and Skittles everywhere. You only see him eat Doritos. That's I thought I was watching like Mac and me like when you see the fucking like McDonald's and Coke and Skittles everywhere I only see him eat Doritos. That's all you do see. I'm pretty sure they sponsored this movie I think they did and they said the old bag and everything it was kind of funny But he had apparently unplugged his phone at some point he plugs it back in it rings immediately and it's Amy again He did he had a phone how old was the phone? It was one of those like, it actually looked like one of those like rotary phones.

Wait, so this was set in 2004? Yeah. I thought this was supposed to be set like in an older time. No. Oh my God. That's even Dumber. Like I didn't buy. Oh my God. I didn't buy that it was in an older time, but it's even Dumber that they weren't trying to. oh my god, okay. Cool. Cool. Wow, that just blew your mind. I love that. Cool. Well, Amy is on the phone and she's screaming that somebody burned down their house. So he's like, oh shit. So he arrives and it is burned down.

She was correct. And they flash, they do a quick flashback to like them being cute or him being cute. Like them living in the house and him like running after as she's going to work and him pretending that like he's just trying, he's like, oh, you left me some money, Miss. I'm free.

I don't know if they told you, but I'm free. Oh, that was the dumbest thing ever. And she's being addicted to him and I think it's just like further proving like she's an asshole. But I'm like, why are you still making me hate her so much? No, Elena, you would be addicted to him if he was joking, if you just fucked him

and he was like, oh, hey, here's some money. Ha, ha ha ha. You'd be like, dude, get the fuck away from me. But it's your husband. That was like early on, I think though. They were married. Yeah, I think because she was just going out to work. He was just waking up and he had like shaving cream on his face. I think he was just doing like a bit hotel though. No, it was in their house because it was showing their home. Like it was showing their like the nice memories in their home while they were standing amongst like the wreckage. But I was like, that's like a cute bit. Like he's just trying to be funny and she was like a real dick about it. And I was like, I just don't like you, baby. Maybe I just let 2004 Johnny Depp is like a great Johnny Depp. So I was like, I was feeling a little upset.

I was feeling protective of that Johnny Depp. Well, before that is prime Johnny Depp. But this was like right before he fell off the wagon there. Because when he fell off the wagon. Yeah, this was like right then. So I was still, I was still into it then, but then it breaks off. But either way, I felt protective.

In the spa. In the spa. Ted and Amy. Ted is being a dick. Ted like shows up in Pretensis's house. And I was like, you need to step away Ted. Like I was understanding it. And the fire chief says it's definitely Arsene. Like for sure asks about enemies. None of them have one, but he's like, yeah, I have one. It's called shooter. Yeah. I don't know what to tell you. And the only reason I'm going to mention this next part is because it has to do with why

he came up with a shooter, but like they go to look over there, like shared property, and they kick Ted out of the insurance place. Like you can't look at the shared property. And then they meet outside. They have a little argument. And he's like, where are we from Teddy? And he's like Tennessee. And then he's like, where?

And he's like, a little place called Shooter's Bay. And I was like, oh no. That's the one part I didn't know. I didn't have anything on that. That's it. He says a little place called Shooter's Bay. And you're like, oh, that's where that is. That's cool.

So he goes back home to the cabin. And the phone is ringing and it's Ken. He's saying you check the place out and everything is fine. And of course, he didn't get the magazine again and now the house is burned down. So he's like, shit, I don't have the proof. But Ken's like, don't worry, I got the original. And I'm like, why didn't you just do that to begin with? Why did we make this complicated?

But okay. So he's like, all right, I got the original one. It's going to come to you tomorrow. And he's like, I also talked to Tom who had driven by you and beeped at you because he saw you in Shooter. And Tom was real cagey about it. So he's like, let's meet tomorrow morning at 9 AM

with Tom, we're gonna talk about it, so they're like, cool. This is when he starts having like TMJ issues. Also, by the way, this is when he starts like, really aggressively like cracking his jaw and I was like what's happening and this happens a lot during the movie and I found like a reason for it but this is when it first happened I was like are you okay sir but he wakes up late so he misses the

whole thing and he ends up I think like he found shooters hat outside his house that morning which I never understood really the reason for that But he found it in his house, right? Was that this part? I was out later I think he found it like on his porch Yeah, it was like on his porch like he opened the door and it was right there and then I think a little bit after I don't I might be jumping ahead but Shooter does show up and he's like bring your manuscript Bring your bruises and brings you your six-gun pilgrim.

Pilgrim. Yeah, that's like I want my hat back, by the way. Well, then he ends up going to meet Tom and Ken and they don't show up. So he's like, fuck, so he goes to the meeting place and shoot, that's when Shooter shows up. And he's like, oh no, actually first, I forgot, he sees Ted out of gas station in town.

And that's when he has the confrontation with Ted. And what Ted is talking about is the divorce. He wants him to sign the divorce papers, and he's like, you need to get out of my life. But more things he's talking about, he thinks that he sent Shooter as like a hitman, basically, to like intimidate him into signing these divorce papers. So they end up talking about two different things

to each other and Ted goes to punch him and punches the window. Dude, because Johnny Depp has fucking cat-like reflexes apparently and he just like moves over and he punches the window and he's like, ha-ha. He goes bummer, Ted. That's what it was, yup. Yeah, so then that's when he goes

and he ends up answering the phone and shooters like meet me at the same place. So he meets shooter again and shooters like and he sees the car that Tom was driving before parked there. And he's like, well, shit, it's Tom and he sees Tom. Well Tom has a screwdriver through his head. He's sitting in the front seat of the car with a screwdriver in his head. And he jumps. He's like, oh, yeah. In the cat. Yeah. And Ken, the security dude is in the back seat with a fucking hatchet in his neck.

I don't even know why he was with him. No, because he was supposed to be meeting Tom because they were going to meet what's his name? Yeah. Yeah. This is when so he sees these two things. He's like, what the fuck is going on? And then he locks eyes with a squirrel in a tree and passes out. Yeah, what did he pass out? He passed out just because, I think, from seeing dead bodies. I think he just, like, was like, holding a chair.

What do you saw the squirrel? He didn't pass out from the dead bodies. He passed out from the squirrel. He passed out after locking eyes with a squirrel, like having a full-on moment with a squirrel. And he wakes up. Why aren't these the things that KEP explains? I need that explained. I truly need that explained.

Why are you explaining other things and not that? Maybe I didn't finish it. I can't remember. I might have turned it off like the last 10 minutes, so maybe I wish he explained. No, I think I finished it. And I don't think think he explains it one thing he does explain is the dog killing though Yeah, he doesn't explain it though. He just depends himself. He's like, huh? I'm a dog killer from way back. I killed a dog in lost world

The decision to kill the dog was not I got a I'm a dog killer from way back. I killed a dog in Lost World. Got plenty of mail about that. Nobody cares about, you know, I mean, he also kills four people in the movie, you know. I don't know. That seems mildly objectionable to me. But it's, it's a way of sending a message, surely, to a character that you're serious. And it's a relatively easy way to Get the audience to hate your bad guy. Oh, he's the worst. Yeah, he's just like I mean like I could get it

If you're like no like I had to like convey emotion and he does say that Yeah, I have to convey emotion because what does it more? He's like a mad dog killer a dog killing right? I have to kill a dog because I've always been a dog killer so I was like that's my thing Yeah, when he said it was like his thing, I was like, like, not cute. Shut the fuck up. I'm not interested in it. Not cute at all.

It wasn't even good. No, well, after he locks eyes with the squirrel, that will never know why. We'll never know why that happened. But he wakes up and shooters standing there and says he's been out for three hours. Which I was like, holy shit. And he goes to try to run away from him. And he's like

falling because his legs asleep. And shooter goes, you legs sleepin. You lay on the damn thing. And then he's like, hey, by the way, you shouldn't leave because that's screwdriver is yours. So I tied you to these murders. So you maybe shouldn't run away. And then he's telling him I have the magazine. He's like, it's coming tomorrow. And this is when Shooter's freaking out again. He's like, no, it can't be in there. This is my story. And he's like, all right, meet me in two hours at my cabin.

And he's like, I'm gonna fucking give you this thing and then you'll go away. I have the magazine. I have the magazine. You have it. That's exactly, I have that in my notes. Like, I have the magazine. And he also tells him, this is like one of my favorite lines

because I was like, wow, what a writer you are shooter. Cause he goes, by the way, you talk to that sheriff of yours again. And if you don't show up at four o'clock, I'll burn your life and every person in it, like a cane field and a how wind. But also what sheriff, you already killed the sheriff. No, he didn't kill the sheriff. He killed the security guard. That wait.

Because the sheriff comes later. Dutton is the security guard. He's a security guard. Or like the like a body guard. What? What? Yeah. Okay, I did not know that.

I thought he was the fucking sheriff. No way. He's the body guard. Okay. He the fucking sheriff. No way. He's the bodyguard. So he tells himself. The sheriff is like the old guy. He comes later. That guy? Yeah, the old guy is the sheriff.

Tells me he got it over Charles Dunham. There was the old, the sheriff is an old guy who's doing like needle point. Are you funny, starting? I'm kidding me, dude. I remember him now. Okay, that pissing me off. Shooter tells him I will leave you alone and I will turn myself in if you show me this proof.

And he's like, and you know what? To be honest, I'll kill myself before trial because if I'm crazy, if I'm that crazy, I'm that sort of what to do. And then he goes, listen, you got my hat. I won't it. You got my hands. I won't. I won't. My hat. I won't it. So he ends up like taking care of, he like, you know, rolls the car off a cliff. You just leave. I won't. My hat. I'll walt it. So he ends up taking care of, he rolls the car off a cliff. And then, you know, just a casual cliff. A casual cliff that comes out of nowhere. And he goes home, the phone is ringing again.

And of course, it's fucking Amy again. I'm annoyed at her, so I understand. And she's being annoying, and she's acting like she's worried about him and that she cares fucking it all about him. Do you think things would be different if we didn't lose the baby? If we didn't lose the baby. I was like, really?

Are you really bringing up a miscarriage right now? He's clearly having a psychotic break. Like why are you doing this to him? And he's like, are you kidding me right now? And then they start talking about their relationship. And she's like, and she says, I only cheated on you with Ted. Only Ted. Like, oh, that's good.

And she's like, and he wanted us to tell you. And then she goes, the look on your face. And I was like, what the fuck? No, you know what else is fucking ridiculous? At one point, she's talking about Ted, because it almost sounds like she's like done with him. And she's like, I'm ready to go back to you. And she's like, oh, yeah. She says something about Ted. He's sounds like she's like done with him and she's like I'm ready to go back to you and she's like oh yeah she says something about Ted

he's like where's Ted she's like he left yeah and then he's like oh like you guys broke up and she's like no he just went to the store yeah she's like no he's coming back I'm I'm going to his place and that's not how you say that like shit no and then after she acts like she cares about him and then drops the whole like, remember your face when you walked on and on us after we had fucked. And like, she's like, here,

hey, here's this emotion ball. And then she's like, you know what, it would be cool if you signed this divorce papers. He's like, oh, that's what you were calling for, you dick. Yeah, he just hex up. He's like, I'm done. He has severe TMJ again, like immediately. And I just hex up. He's like, I'm done. He has severe TMJ again. Like immediately. And I looked it up and temporal mandibular disorders or TMJ

are common with psychological disorders. And they often come along with schizophrenia. Why is it called TMJ if it ends with a disorder? Well, because it's a TM, TMD is the temporal mandibular disorder, but TMJ is like a specific jaw disorder. That's what he's supposed to have? Or like joint disorder. Yeah, and he's, and I don't know, but I was looking it up and it looked like that's what it was. And if that's what it was, it is common with like schizophrenia or anxiety or depression, it will like come along with it.

So it makes sense if he's like going in through like a schizophrenic break, okay. That he would have TMJ. So I was like, okay, that makes me feel better about this constant jaw cracking thing. But so she hangs up the phone and she says she's going to make him sign the papers. Ted wants to go with her, but he's like, no, she's like, no, stay here. So he, this is when he goes to get the manuscript from the post office and the girl behind the desk like flirts with him. She comes back later. And so he ends up seeing the sheriff briefly to the old sheriff and he's real suspicious of him.

But Ted had decided to follow Amy to the cabin. Amy shows up, or no, excuse me, before Amy shows up, this is when he has his like total breakdown in the cabin. Yes. Punches the window or something like that, right? Yeah. Because he opens the package and the magazine is in there, but his story has been cut out of the magazine. Yeah, yeah. It's the whole magazine aside from that. Yeah. This is when he makes him like totally break. So he ends up having a ton of TMJ. He's

looking in the mirror a lot. He puts on Shooter's hat and he starts talking to himself as Shooter as him. It's like he's finally himself. Yeah, he's using, he's saying, you know, you remember Shooter's Bay pilgrim, you made this up. Because it's like these flashback things of like him and Shooter's like point of view. But you know what really fucking pissed me off? It just goes to him and you look at him and it's just him like slowly putting on the hat like Darth Vader putting on his helmet. Yes! I was like what? You did not just fucking do that and he's just walking out the whole time like I'm shooter now look at my big ridiculous fucking hat. And you and you realize that he got that hat at like an estate sale when he was with Amy once

he just like put it on in a mirror and was like, my name's John Shooter, like I'm from Mississippi, like I'm a dairy farmer from Mississippi. And that's the whole explanation, that's it. Yeah, that's it, he just put that on. And so he's yelling, he's yelling at himself and then they do that thing that they do in the craft where he looks in the mirror and he turns to the left and like his reflection turns with him,

like they obviously know me, like it's not a reflection. And then Shooter shows up and is standing on the stairs. And again, they're talking back and forth. You see the flashback of him creating Shooter. And then he's like, you need to fix the ending. Yeah. And this is when Amy pulls in. And Amy pulls in and all the pages are everywhere from the secret window story.

The one that was cut out of the magazine, they're floating everywhere. Just flying around ridiculously. And also they had you go through the mirror again, so now you're in reality. And that's why you don't see Shooter again. Not taking that. According to the director. Yeah, not taking that.

Not, I'm not taking that. I won't believe it. But she walks in, she sees all the papers everywhere. The place is ransacked. She's like calling for him. She sees the Jack Daniels on the table, and she's like, oh,. The place is ransacked. She's like calling for him. She sees the Jack Daniels on the table and she's like, oh, he's probably just drunk. So where's the one to go find him?

And then you start seeing that shooter. The word shooter is carved into various places in this house. Have that right here. Why'd he carve it in the fucking wall? The last thing, it says shooters here and it's fucking Johnny hiding behind the door. It's a shoot her. It says shoot her. Yeah, it says fucking Johnny hiding behind the door. It's a shoot her It's a shoot her yeah, it says shoot her you're kidding no

No, it's a shoot her what like meaning shoot your wife. Oh shut the fuck up. It did yeah Cuz oh she's seeing all these and she's like what a shooter what the fuck and then she sees him with the hat The door is closing and next to him it's a shoot and then as the door closes it says her. Oh my God. And he's talking in the accent and he's telling her Mort's dead. And then he has scissors.

He chases her out the door with the scissors. She grabs her keys, tries to start her car. He breaks a window with a rock and drags her out of the car like while she's going. Without removing the accent. Yeah, without... oh he's full accent this whole time which I appreciate. And she ends up kicking him in the nose so he's like bleeding everywhere. She runs out to the back. She ends up pushing her into a rock. She slams her head.

Somehow she's just like incapacitated on the ground after falling. I was like, I feel like you wouldn't be totally incapacitated. But okay. No, she's done. And he just drags her back in the house. Just done. Well, and he grabs a shovel.

And he's talking like shooter. And he's saying, you know, it was Mort Rainey's idea. And he's like, I got a place for you, Miss. I got a place for you. Oh, he is taker into the house. She's still laying there. And she's like, you are Mort Rainey. Yes, she just keeps saying it over. You are Mort Rainey.

By the way, I want you to know that none of this was my idea. It was Mr. Rainey all along. You are Mort Rainey. I got a place for you. You are Mort Rainey. I got a place for you. You are Rainy I got it all picked out Do something and then Ted pulls up and we see Ted come in and I was like oh get him The get-em shooter get him

But mort waits until at the back door until Ted comes through the porch and Amy's yelling for Ted, which I'll stop yelling for him. You're like bringing him to his death, but okay. And he runs out the back door and Mort just takes the shovel and just brings him with the shovel as soon as he comes through. And I'm gonna say least satisfying shovel that had noise I've ever heard in my life. I agree.

I wanted it to be like a crack. Don't. It was ridiculous. It was ridiculous. And he ends up chopping him with the shovel, like chopping him up, which I was like, all right, I get that. That's pretty cool. And he goes over to her and he's reciting the end of the story. And then he chops her with the shovel. It's supposed to parallel his book. and he's reciting the end of the story. And then he chops her with the shovel. It's supposed to parallel his book. Exactly.

And this is, and then it just kind of skips forward a little bit. We see him walking into the general, general store and he looks like shit and not like hot mess like he did before. I preferred before. His hair is like in a perfect page boy, like perfectly quaffed hair cut. He's changed his glasses to these awful little glasses and he has braces and I was so stressed out about it all.

Oh, it was him with braces. He had braces. Oh, I did write that. I thought I wrote it was the girl that had braces that showed up because he sees the girl again. No, I did write it was him with braces. I wanted to push that out of my mind, I guess. I didn't even want to read that right.

The post office girl shows up and he's like, hey girl, like he starts flirting with her, which I was like, she looks way too young for you, sir, but okay, and he's not, she's not into it. She's freaked out. Everyone seems freaked out by her, him. He ends up buying Morton Salt. Hate it.

Butter and napkins and he leaves. And the sheriff shows up at his cabin, the old sheriff. Did he have Doritos on that too? I think I don't know if he did, because when he came, I can't remember. Because when he comes into the sheriff walks into the cabin because it's like open, so he's like sure I can just walk in. And there's a kitchen full of corn,

just everywhere. And he goes upstairs and he's like, hey, and he sees a man at his desk. He's eating an ear of corn. And he's like, I've just been writing because I've been so inspired by that murder. And the sheriff goes, listen, both you and I know what you did. Maybe we don't have enough to put you away right now,

but eventually we'll find those bodies, tie you to them and you're going away. And then he tells them, but in the meantime, get don't go into like the general store because you're freaking people like everyone knows you did it. So now we know everybody knows he's a murderer. And he says, let me finish this off. Please. Yes.

I have a very big issue with this whole ending. He talks about like he's talking to Sheriff. He's just like, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, my ending, very good. Perfect. And only thing that matters is the only thing that matters is the ending. That is what he says. And immediately my brain was like, that is the fucking idiots involved with this, the writer or the director kept anyone involved in this trying to say that the ending to this specific movie, not to the story in the movie, to this movie is perfect. Yep. Oh, yeah, that was definitely because it was right before the ending of the movie that he says that all that matters is the ending. And then he says,

in this one, it's very good. This one's perfect. And then he has TMJ. Yep, he has that jaw thing and then- He does the jaw thing. It fades out the window. It goes from him over to the window, out into the garden. And then it's like- Yep. And it says, I know I can do it. I know I can do it.

And was it on the screen? I don't know if it was on the screen or if someone said it, but it was like, in the end, her death will be a mystery to everyone. Dot, dot, dot, even me me and then it pans this fucking corn field and then all of a sudden it just cuts back to death like goes black for a second shopping in the court with his fucking braces and the old braces right up in the fucking screen just biting this fucking just crunching this corn on the cob

I don't know why that happened. I have no idea why that happened And the let I don't either I don't either and you know what's even crazier if you sat through the credits Which I'm sure you did not if you sat through the credits at the end of the credits You will hear Johnny Depp singing in the shooter voice, Little Baby Love Shorten and Shorten. Mama's Little Baby Love Shorten, Shorten and Mama's Little Baby Love Shorten. Bread. The thing is, Elena, I always stay after credits. Did you stay?

Yeah, well, the thing is, I'm the only person like when Ash requested Ma a long time ago, I have this whole theory and I know it's not even just a theory. I've confirmed it with every single person that I have asked so far thus far. Every part I have had fans email me and say, hey, you're right about that. And the thing is at the end of Ma, like three minutes after the credits,

I was like, there's no way anyone would stay for the credits, even like Bri that did it with me. She was like, yeah, no, I didn't see that. I was like, did you see the end credits? She was like, no, and I was like, it completely denounces the entire ending of the movie. It makes it a completely different ending. Holy shit. And no one has seen it. I have asked every person, I'm like, hey, do you know about the end scenes of Mox? Because they talk about it. I'm like, do you know about the end credit? I just asked them what the ending is, too. I'm like, what's the ending? And they're like, oh, this that? And I'm like, no, it's not it. No, it's not it.

So I stay after credits. I do because there's always a lot of times there's something weird. And I also, I'm one of those weird people that goes through and I look at like who did the score and like, you know, yeah, I can see that. Like what not. Like I'm weird. Like that. So you heard him do in the like and he didn't like a growly voice. He's like, little baby love. I mean, I didn't want to talk about it, but yeah, I heard it. I'm forcing, I'm bringing it out into the open. I was hoping you didn't hear it, because I wasn't gonna hurt you. Well, I heard it.

I heard it, and I was like, I'm confused by this. I don't understand. As anyone would be. But the whole point is, the whole ending is that he clearly killed Amy and Ted and he buried him in his garden and he's I think I don't know if the bite is supposed to be like I'm eating the corn that grew from her decomposing body like it's just supposed to like hammer that in. Oh my god is that what it is. I think that's what it is. I think because it shows you that her body is underneath that soil that is growing corn and then he takes a big tromp into the corn So I think it's like look at look at this brace-based mother fuckery that corn that came from a dead body

So this is like a parallel to people growing a tree out of a dead body except Johnny Depp is growing corn and eating it and eating it a lot apparently apparently that's all he's eating It's just sitting eating corn. All right. There's four kills in this movie. I give this zero fucking stars I will never watch this movie again. I will not recommend this to anyone like legitimately I if anyone ever if I was hanging out with someone and that it's like toward the end of the night and you know You're hanging out you're done hanging out. You're like let's watch a movie and they're like hey, let's watch a secret window I will leave I will go home. I, you're like, let's watch a movie and they're like, hey, let's watch a secret window. I will leave, I will go home. I will not, I will not let you request another movie,

I will not talk about it, I will not discuss it. I'm gone, I will not even say anything to you, I will leave, I probably won't talk to you for a week. Ha ha ha ha. Meanwhile, I give this three out of four pilgrims. Ha ha ha. Three out of four pilgrims. I give it a three out of four pilgrims. Wait, we're going out of four pilgrims. Three out of four pilgrims. I give it a three out of four pilgrims.

Wait, we're going out of four? Who goes out of four? I don't know. Who goes out of four? Me. So if this was out of five, what would you give this? Four out of five. That's a bad rating.

I love it. See, when you were gonna say three out of five, and I was like, that's fine, I guess. Like it's not fine, but it's fine, but no way no way I give this I don't know why I went out of four I feel like it for just felt right but I've never heard that like I it's always 10 or five and a lane is like 4 3 out of 4 pale groom 3.75 Yeah, I give it a 4 out of 5 pilgrims well I don't know when the last time even on like my other show my other shows are completely horror movie show

So we'll pretty much I don't think I've ever given anything like straight up zero Yeah, but I give this a zero. I feel pretty good about being able to do that for you Just painting me you know when I first watched. I think it took years off your life. When I first watched it, I don't know what happened, but there was some scene that happened, and I was so angry that I literally just turned it off. Wow. I just turned it off.

I went back to it like four hours later. Wow, I love that. I feel really good about that. I'm not gonna lie. I feel great about that. I'm a little nervous of what's to come my way, but as like retaliation for that, but you know. I tried doing something, I tried to threaten Alaina

with doing like all 27 amitabils, and she was like, and I was like, let's do it. She was like, oh yeah, cool, that sounds good. And I was like, what? I've tried to do this like nine other people, and they've all told me that they weren't going to talk to me anymore. No, I was like, let's do this. Yeah, so now I'm thinking I have to go really brutal with you.

Oh God. Cause I watch, I'm gonna tell you, Elena, and for the fans, I guess too. I, like we said in the beginning, Elena is really like a 2000s witchy kind of person, like flutsy movies, I'd say. Like I can get down with some, some weird, but I have a good array, but I've leaned more towards the other. Yeah, that's the thing. She likes weird stuff.

Like I know she does. She's a fucking, I mean, for people that don't know and don't listen to morbid, she's a fucking autopsy technician. Is that the right term? Yeah, it is. Okay, yeah. So, I am a connoisseur of weird stuff, and I also, it goes into my movie preference. That's a drew us together.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I have a very big taste for fucked up movies. I'm actually doing one of the first really fucked up movies on horsesuit pretty soon and I think I'm gonna get you back with some because I have a lot in my docket. I'm a little scared. I have a lot. I'm real scared We're gonna bounce from two very different areas Yeah, and that's and I think that's gonna be the fun of the show You know sometimes it's one week. It's gonna be Elena's weird fluffy stuff And I guess Johnny Depp

and she already mentioned something with, what was it, Lindsey Lohan? Oh yeah, I know who killed me. Yeah, that was... That one will be a hate watch. A hate rewatch. Okay, okay, so at least you're not gonna like it because I'm not like that.

Yeah, that one will be fun to make fun of because that's a true train wreck, but it's one that has to happen. But yeah, it'll be stuff like that. I mean, the first movie that me, you and Ash and Bri ever covered together was Jennifer's body. Yeah, I love that flick. Yeah, that one I love and I do love a lot of some movies from that era. I'm gonna say some. Yeah, I'm gonna say some. We all go as far as a lot. Yeah, I'm gonna say some, I've best. But know, it's going to be very two different worlds every week,

and I'm pretty excited. So it's something for everyone. Maybe not on my weeks. Yeah, something for a few people. We'll lose a lot of listeners on my weeks. Hopefully everybody enjoyed Secret Window. Go watch it. No, don't say that, touch that.

But it's great. Is it the end of the show, Elena? It's about the end. No, don't say that. I'm touched. But it's great. Is it is at the end of the show, Elena? It's about the end, right? I'd say so. So I guess we should do a couple things. First of all, since it's the first episode, and I guess we'll do it a few more times before I get bored. Thank you to the fans and the people that are listening to this new show. Thank you.

If you've taken time to let us travel through your ear meat, ear meat. That's a term. Oh, if you do like us, go ahead and review us because you know, I tune reviews, kind of bump you up and whatnot. It's good stuff. Yeah. Five star reviews are loved.

I don't think we haven't set everything up yet, but as of this time, email us at screen podcast at Yahoo.com, couldn't get the Gmail. You can follow us on, it was Instagram at ScreenPodcast. Follow us on Twitter at the ScreenPod. It's official, it's there, it's a stone. I think that's everything. I didn't make a Facebook. You can, I literally don't even do Facebook on anything else. I actually made a Facebook.

I fucking hate it, I fucking hate it. If you don't want to make one, I don't care if you want to make one and just not doing anything with it Just leave it there and just like do the you know Instagram thing where you go share Yeah, you share to both yeah, we do that We do that and I think the last thing is we mentioned a little bit We have other podcasts and you have other one do another one that we didn't mention so do yours first I

Have a another podcast called morbid a true crime podcast so you can find us anywhere that you listen and you can follow our Twitter at a morbid podcast. Instagram I think we're just at morbid podcast. And you can also go listen to our podcast podcast called crime countdown and it's also me and Ash and it's like top 10 list and shit. I don't I don't really know you can follow set park has somewhere but there you can find it. It's on park has you follow park cast. Yeah, it's in park as you can find it. Follow park as go review it and whatnot. It's still fairly new. Well, I guess it'll be a little bit less new once this comes out but it's still and it's a little bit in its impency. More but it's like the veteran.

The veteran. That is the veteran. I have Horsop, which is, I guess, my veteran that I've done, like, forever. If you listen early on, I did it with my friend Bree. She doesn't have time for it anymore, and that's what's going on. And I'm going to force her back into it eventually. It'll happen. But for now, I do, like, horror movies movies and I cover them with other guests like directors actors

Just my friends sometimes and whatnot and yeah, horse soup you can find that anywhere to search horses I'm not gonna give you specifics. You can find it's the fucking internet I also have another podcast called I'll suck your blood. That's a vampire movie podcast And we pretty much just cover all arrays of vampire but I do that with my buddy James from night shift video really cool guy again find us some places at all suck your blood and Jim Tantle laundry that one you can find even in even less places But if you go to like a podcast player and search Jim Tantle laundry You'll find my Jersey Shore podcast that I do with

Bree kind of has time for that one She has a little bit of time for that one We love Bri. And again, I think I'm gonna do it. I don't think I have to do this here, but again, thank you to Ethan hurt for our music, man. It's fucking awesome. Yeah, thank you Ethan. And thank you to Casey Booth for our artwork too.

Yes, Casey Booth. Both of you guys absolutely killed it. You helped make this show what it was and personally I want to thank you Elena just for coming to me With this in general. I think this is fucking awesome. There's something I've always wanted to do like specifically with you This is this is great. I mean, I've said it before on my show and I think on your show But you and the horror show and last podcast on the left, you were the three top ones that inspired me to ask for you to start a podcast a couple of years ago.

So I love that. I love you, Caleb. Thank you so much. And thank you for doing this with me. You're the only person I would want to do this podcast with. I was immediately like, yes. My heart. My heart.

You know, I hate you for doing this movie. Even though I've destroyed your soul, and you'll destroy mine, I'm sure. I'm so excited for the show and what's to come. And again, thank you guys for listening to the first episode. Yeah, thanks so much and come back. Do we do a sign-off? What kind of sign-off could we do for this? Hmm.

This show is the range. Show is the range. It shows the range. It's a few people ready Can I have a thing on The show is the dream Sweet Sweet Sweet 3... 3... 3... I'm not going to be a good guy. I'm not going to be a good guy. I'm not going to be a good guy.

I'm not going to be a good guy. I'm not going to be a good guy. Is he there? No. We're not together. Wow. Well, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't on the verge of doing snoopy dances. No more.

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