Morbid - Countess Elizabeth Bathory
Episode Date: March 14, 2019Countess Elizabeth Bathory died in 1614 but the legends surrounding her life and crimes continue to live and breathe today. Perhaps better known as "The Blood Countess" today, she is possibl...y one of the most prolific serial killers to exist in history. Or was she a powerful woman who was taken down by those around who for political and financial gain? The facts are more terrifying than the myths in this case, guys. Drain your bath tub, grab one of your castle staff members and get ready for some coagulation because Elizabeth is bloody terrifying. A great resource for this episode was "Infamous Lady: The True Story of Countess Erzsebet Bathory" by Kimberly Craft Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash.
And I'm Elena.
And this is Morbid.
The full-length edition.
Full-length morbid.
Ash is making that face again, and it's breaking me out.
It's cute.
So we don't have a whole lot of business to get to this time around, even though it's been a minute.
I know. It has been a minute.
It's been a minute. And Ash is here. She's alive, everybody.
I'm in one piece.
And you are all so sweet.
Guys, seriously, thank you so much for all your messages and your kind words.
You guys are the best.
You really are.
I was like, oh my God, there's a lot of people that care about my well-being.
I knew it too.
I was like, I know our weirdos will just surround you with love and weirdness.
I'm fine.
No major injotis.
She's alive.
She's breathing, so that's good.
She's in one piece.
But she had some well-needed rest before we recorded it again.
Rest and relaxation.
Because we wanted to be 100% for you.
I wanted to be a thousand.
percent. Whoa. Over fucking achiever. Here I am. Here I am. Besides that, the only thing that really
happened this week that was crazy is, and everybody has been messaging us about it because they
know how much it pissed us off, is the Chris Watts confession. I read most of it, and then I had
to stop. I didn't read it. Because it is one of the worst things I've ever read. I don't know if I
could ever read it. I also think he's full of shit.
Yeah.
And I think that he's telling a different narrative.
To sound like cooler in his life.
I mean, just starting off with him straddling his pregnant wife and like them talking for a while.
Like, no.
Like that didn't happen.
Like when you're pregnant, you're like, no.
She also wasn't lying on her back.
I doubt not.
No, because you know what?
If she was like, here's fact.
Little science fact for you.
When you are pregnant, laying on your back compresses your thoracic aorta.
Thoracic.
Or excuse me, your abdominal aorta.
Abdominal.
And when that's abdorminal.
And when you compress your abdominal aorta, it makes you nauseous.
Nausea.
Nausea.
So no pregnant woman is laying on her back for any length of time if she doesn't have to.
Because even when you get like ultrasounds done and stuff, you can get nauseous just by laying on your back for that long.
And then you barf on the ultrasound.
So that already was bullshit.
And then he had to add in this whole big thing about his,
his poor little daughter's last words to him and shit, which I'm like, you're, and then he's like,
I just, and he's trying to put it on his wife for saying that you'll never see the kids again.
Okay.
Well, first of all, a lot of divorced people have heard those words before and they don't murder their spouse.
And also, if you were so upset about not seeing your kids again, how come you murdered them,
asshole?
Like, what?
What?
That doesn't make any sense.
Like, you're just a vicious murderer who wanted to start a new life.
with your mistress. That's all it was.
How do you, first of all, just come forward and say it?
How do you first of all kill your wife?
Like that, I can't wrap my head around.
But how do you murder your children?
That's half of you.
You created these human beings.
I don't get that at all.
These human beings look to you for everything.
Everything.
And they trust you implicitly.
It just, like, that thing blew my mind.
So did he ever, I know there's no reasonable explanation whatsoever.
But in that confession, did he say why he killed the kids?
Like, did anybody ask him not?
No, he just said he snapped.
He doesn't understand why he did.
So basically, he's totally removing responsibility from himself.
And he's going to say that he just snapped and he was in a blackout state.
But somehow he remembers every horrible detail of it.
Interesting.
Weird how that can happen.
So literally, Chris Watts, burn in hell.
And besides that, I'm sure where, I know a lot of people have been asked.
about the Colorado mom, Kelsey Barrett, for updates on that. I think we might do maybe a mini
episode on that because a lot has come out. So I'm not going to touch upon it now because
people get mad when we talk before the case. So I'll cut it now and we'll just go into the case
and you'll get that in a mini episode. So yeah, so let's just get into this is going to be a big
episode, guys. Hopefully we can get through it in an appropriate amount of time. Also, let's just
apologize ahead for any mispronounce words. Yeah, there's a lot of Hungarian stuff in here,
and I myself am not Hungarian. Nor am I. Ash is not either. We're related. We're very American.
So I am doing my best. I know I have a couple of them correct, but there's going to be a lot
that are incorrect. And if we have any Hungarian listeners or people who just know more about
Hungarian language than I do, feel free to tell me. I always appreciate when people, when people tell
me what, you know, the things I've pronounced wrong, because I really do appreciate it because I
learn things. So today's episode, today's very Hungarian episode, is brought to you by
Elizabeth Boutary. She's a murderer. Now I know some people might be saying Elizabeth Boutary,
who's that? It's Elizabeth Bouthery. I thought her last name was pronounced Bathory, and I'm sure
a lot of other people do. But thanks to Aaron Manky of lore,
Yeah.
He taught me, not me like by my, like, he literally called me.
He didn't give me like a private lesson about this.
But on his podcast, I learned that it is actually pronounced boutary.
Boutary, which is interesting.
Because Hungarian language, you kind of like say the two parts of bathery separately.
That's how you get boutary.
Oh, bouthery.
Yeah.
Cool.
So it's interesting.
So Elizabeth Boutary, also known as the blood countess, the original draconess.
the original Dracula and the Bloody Lady of Catchtease.
That's how I'm known.
Yeah.
The Bloody Lady of Coutis.
I think the Bloody Lady of Couchtees.
Catchtees.
Yeah.
That sounds better.
That's my title.
I might be saying that wrong.
I'm a OG.
Just to start this off, I know a lot of, well, I say a lot of people.
I mean, a lot of true crime fans know who Elizabeth is.
I don't.
Ash does not.
But I think a lot of people, because a lot of people were psyched to hear this
episode so people have an idea. We got a ton of emails. A lot of people know one main fact about,
or one, they think they know one main fact about her, because I also thought that this was like
indisputable fact. But it's not. So a lot of things that are said about her are completely true.
And they're backed by multiple witnesses, records, all kinds of stuff. But the idea that she
bathed in blood has never been confirmed. No witnesses claimed it. But had,
Has it been denied?
And it would actually require, like, a lot of work for just one bath.
I would think so.
You want to know how I know that?
You tried it.
I did the math.
Okay.
That makes me a little more settled.
I should have just been, like, yes.
No, get ready, because I'm going to hit you with some science right now.
Oh, yay.
Because whatever I can do that.
Ooh.
I do it.
So.
Science slash math?
Science.
Yeah, science slash math.
So.
Sath.
A standard bathtub holds about 80 gallons of water.
Wow, that's a lot.
I'm not sure if this was the same kind of thing back in Elizabeth's bathroom,
but she was rich as fuck and certainly would have a nicer bathtub than most anyone else at the time.
So it even could have been larger because even on the larger side,
bathsubs can be like 100 to 110 gallons.
So sticking with the average 80 gallons, there are eight pints in a gallon.
There are about 9 to 12 pints of blood.
in a woman, human body, depending on body weight and mass.
It's nine to 12.
Okay.
If you're a little larger, you're going to have 12.
Pints of blood? Yes.
I bet I have 14.
No.
I'm kidding.
So any average-sized woman would have about nine pints of blood in their body.
Wow.
This means that you would need roughly eight or nine average women's entire supply of blood to fill one tub.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
Of course, Elizabeth wasn't killing average-aged women.
Right.
So that doesn't quite.
work. She was killing young girls. She liked them around the ages of like 10 to maybe at the
oldest maybe 17 at the time from what I've found. Most of them were in the 10 to 14 year bracket.
And how much blood does that person have? Well, this would put their blood volume somewhere around
seven pints. So that means that Elizabeth would need about 11 and a half servant girls in their
entirety to fill one bathtub. And how many people did they think she killed? Well, she killed. I mean,
That number, it fluctuates and we'll get into that more, but like some people say she killed 600.
Oh, shit.
She was officially convicted for 80.
Wow.
That they could, they, that people, witnesses were able to like actually say that happened.
So she would need seven girls per one tub?
But that's, it's one tub.
No, she would need 11.5 servant girls for just one tub.
Oh, wow.
So that's a lot of work for one fucking tub.
And that would mean she only took about eight or nine tubs.
Exactly. And that's absurd. And would also mean that she couldn't torture them first, which was her thing. Her thing was torture and pain. It wasn't just dead people. Like that wasn't it wasn't just dead. It wasn't just dead. It wasn't just death. It was torture. So because to lose any blood through torture before emptying it into the bath would mean that she would need even more girls to fill just one tub. So I guess she could suspend them above the bathtub and have.
have them tortured so that all the blood fell directly into the tub. But that's, I mean, that's
just me coming up with something. I don't know. There's also the problem of viscosity of blood
versus water. I'm doing these calculations based on the viscosity of water, but blood has a viscosity
that is likely three to four times higher. So that changes the volume. And viscosity is just
thickness. Yeah. And how it flows when, um, when met with a certain velocity. Okay. So this whole thing
would take a variant amount of time as well, because depending on the artery you slice,
the blood will flow faster or slower. So if she cut the aorta, then sure, they would drain
quick and she would get her bathtub. But if she didn't, it might be slower and slower from
there and who the fuck has time for that? Like you're just going to sit there for like hours
while this person bleeds out over your tub. So that's just something to me that says she probably
didn't bathe in blood. Yeah. Maybe she smeared it on her skin.
Maybe she did put it in, like, bottles, like, some people think and, like, put it on her skin to keep herself beautiful, because that's the whole thing.
A blood facial is a thing.
Yeah.
So maybe she did that.
I could see that.
Because there are, and we're going to see it later in some of the testimonies I have that were on record, that she did torture women, girls, actually, to the point where they said that you could scoop the blood off the floor in, like, handfuls.
So it is possible that she had people scoop up blood for her and put them in bottles.
I mean, who knows?
I really liked true crime a lot, but blood makes me like queasy.
I don't mind blood.
Well, you're a fucking mortician, obviously not.
I'm not a mortician.
What are you?
Autopsy technician.
Same deal.
No, very different.
Two opposite sides of the death pool.
What's a mortician do?
A mortician prepares the body for burial, so they embom.
I was thinking...
They don't do, like, all the organ...
I was thinking what I would do.
There you go.
And I also was thinking that people call you morticia.
They do.
That's true.
So let me start this off just to give you the, I'm going to do that thing where I give you the end of the story.
Oh, I like, I like story set up like that.
Yeah, with this one, it's like a good, yeah.
So let me start this off with an actual letter written by Count Jorhi.
Hiorhi.
There's a lot of Hiorhis in this.
We practiced.
We did.
It goes, Hiarhi, hi.
So this is written by Count Hiorhi, Thurzo.
Excuse me.
I don't know why I said excuse me.
What time period is this?
This is in the 1500s.
Okay.
Excuse me.
To the 16th, like early 1600s.
Okay.
Who was sent by the King of Hungary to investigate the many rumors and claims surrounding Elizabeth Boutary's sadism in love of torture and murder.
Great.
My greetings and update.
Beloved heart.
I arrived here at Huli.
I think.
Yes, yesterday evening.
In good health, thank God.
I apprehended the Natistee woman.
That's Elizabeth.
Does that mean nasty?
The nasty woman.
No, the reason that she's called the Natasty woman is because that was her husband's last name.
She actually didn't end up taking his last name because her rank in society was higher than his.
So she was like, bitch, I'm a stay about her.
Which I was like, good for you.
Until she became a murderer.
I mean, she's a dick, but like, good for her.
I mean, it should be. All right. By now she has been led away to the castle above. Now those who tortured and murdered the innocent, those evil women in league with that young lady who, in silent cruelty, assisted them with their atrocities, were sent to Bitka. They are under guard and will be held in strict captivity until, God willing, I arrive home to bring the strong justice they deserve. The women can remain imprisoned in the town. But the young lady must be confined at the castle.
As for our people and servants that I brought with me, when my men entered Sistia, Sistia Manor,
they found a girl dead in the house, another followed in death as a result of many wounds and agonies.
In addition to this, there were also a wounded and tortured woman there.
The other victims were kept hidden away where the damned woman prepared these future martyrs.
I am just waiting until this cursed woman is brought to the castle and the other's destination is determined.
and then I break away and hope
if the way permits that I make it home by tomorrow.
May God grant it, I have written this in the greatest haste.
30th December 1610.
Your loving lord and spouse, count,
Hiorhi, Thurzo.
Hi.
So this takes place in the 1500s to the early 1600s.
Okay.
Fun little fact, bouthery means good hero.
I doubt she was.
The word for brave in Hungarian is also bauter.
So this is a little fun fact, that her last name means good hero.
So this is just going to be a tiny bit of history about Elizabeth and her family,
just so you have an idea of how huge this was that she was such a fucking maniac.
The bautary family was divided into two different branches,
the boutaries of Smolio and the bouts of Exed.
So in the 16th century, Hungary was divided into two competing,
claims to the throne, which was the Exed branch of the Boutary family. They sided with the Hadsbergs.
The Hadsbergs organized the election of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria as King of Hungary.
So that's who said they were on. Okay. So they recognized him as like the rifle king.
Yeah, like they were trying to get him as the king. Got it. But the Somalia branch supported
Janos Sispolia. Yeah. I believe it is. And he had been elected king by the
Hungarian nobles.
Okay.
So this means that the Exed branch and the Smolio branch of the Boutary family were basically
against each other.
Okay.
For who was going to take control of Hungary.
Got it.
Now, this seems like it's going to be like fucking crazy, like a war.
But the two branches of the Boutary family became united.
And it was a political thing by, and now Elizabeth's name in Hungarian is Erzabet.
Cool.
Just as a little factoid.
So they became united politically by Elizabeth's parents, Hiorhi and Anna.
Got it.
So see, we got to Elizabeth.
They united because Hiorhi of the Exed branch decided to change his allegiance from the Hadsbergs to the Sospolia.
So he changed allegiances.
Yeah, he changed allegiances.
So he decided to go with the guy that most of the nobles wanted as the king.
Okay.
Which seems like a good way to go.
Exactly.
Oh, he's going to nobles go.
It is said that he renounced this allegiance
because he wanted to marry his, quote,
Transylvanian cousin, Anna, of the Somalia branch.
Oh, they were cousins.
Lots of imbreeding in the Boutary family.
Yeah.
Which caused a lot of fucked up shit to happen with Elizabeth's mind.
Clearly.
As you'll see it, because she started being kind of like cuckoo nut man early.
Oh, that's my favorite expression.
That's a cuckoo nut lady.
So Hiorhi was really looking to strengthen his alliance with Anna's brother Istvan
because he had been appointed Voidvad of Transylvania under the Sispolia branch.
So a Voidvod is like a leader of a force, like an army.
Yeah, like a military force.
So they love the armies.
So it's like a big, powerful position.
Voidvaud.
Voidvat.
This is very confusing, I know.
Sure is.
But in the way he accomplished this,
was he married Anna.
That's how he was going to get Istvan, her brother, on his side.
Okay.
And when he did this, he united the two branches of the Boutary clan.
So this is where they came together.
Anna Boutary was originally the widow of the last descendant of the Dragfi family.
So the two of them took over the Dragfi castles when they got married because that were hers.
Unfortunately, the Hadsbergs, who he removed his alliance from,
ended up taking those castles eventually.
So, Hiorhi and Anna had to go run to the Sitzvah.
Yeah.
Yeah, to the Sitzvah castle in the county of Zemplein.
And later, they also had the Boutary family estate in Exed.
Okay.
Those two estates are important just because Elizabeth eventually will take control of these things.
Got it.
The Hadsbergs and the Boutaries, because the Hadsbergs at one point,
had like an alliance with part of the Boutary clan.
Right.
But in marrying Anna, he fucked them over.
He took that allegiance away.
So now the Hadsbergs are out on a limb, and it's the Hadbergs against the Boutaries.
So this tension would keep going for, like, generations.
It was a long-running feud because they're all vying for power in Central Europe.
Like, this is all a power thing.
And it's all who they think is the rifle case.
Exactly.
So this is like a huge conflict.
And born in the middle of all this was Elizabeth.
Erzabet Boutary.
Erzabet.
That's a cool way to say it.
So, Erzabet, Boutary, was born August 7th, 1560.
She was born at the Exed family estate, which is located in what today would be known as Negexed.
Yeah.
But in those days, they called it Exed.
Got it.
And it's not far from near Bator, Hungary.
It's near Bator.
Near Bator.
So Erzabet came.
from a very powerful family, obviously.
Right.
Because her parents were from the two separate sides of the Boutary family.
You know, Yorhi, like we said, from the Exed branch and Anna from the Smolyo side of the family.
So they were like smacked out right in the middle.
Yeah.
So she was born into wealth, power, and all that comes with it.
In fact, just to like put it into perspective, her uncles on both sides of the family were void vods of Transylvania.
and her maternal grandfather was also Void Vaudevaat of Transylvania.
Her uncle Istvan was also the king of Poland.
Oh shit.
Her cousins Andras, Gabor and Zygmund, would also eventually become Transylvanian princes.
Wow.
Yeah.
Zigmund is a cool name.
I know that is a cool name.
So she comes from like a big, powerful family.
You don't say.
She also had an older brother Istvan, a brother, Gabor, and two younger sisters, Zofiard.
and Clara.
Sophia.
Not a lot is known about her siblings.
Because they were probably like,
we don't know her.
Meanwhile, there were, so
meanwhile, Turkish invaders were like
coming into Europe by like the millions.
During this time, Hungary
was divided into three portions.
Southeastern Hungary
and a large part of
Trans Danubia were under the control
of the Turks.
Western Hungary fell under the
Hadsburg control.
And then Transylvary.
remained pretty like neutral.
Like Transylvania, the ruling people in Transylvania were basically like,
we'll just like go with whatever we need to at whatever time.
Right.
So in addition to the tension between all of these three ruling powers,
there was also like a huge Protestant Reformation in Europe.
So, I mean, there was Islamic Turks clashing with European Christians,
Catholic and Protestant Europeans were also going at each other.
Okay.
So it was just like a big religious, just shit-fuss.
Yeah.
So there's a lot of shit going on when Elizabeth is young.
And she's seeing a lot of it.
And like a lot of violence.
A lot of violence, a lot of just like brutality, a lot of just war and like fighting.
And she's like, cool.
And she witnessed brutality and chaos from a very young age.
And mental illness did run in her family because of the intense inbreeding.
Yikes.
So around the age of four or five, Elizabeth,
had pretty violent seizures.
Oh.
She was obviously never diagnosed because at that point, they don't know what that is,
but she definitely had epilepsy.
Oh, wow.
That is for sure.
Can that cause brain damage?
I mean, if it's left untreated, yeah.
And later in adulthood, she would write in journals and letters about head and eye pain
that was very severe, which to me says probably migraines.
Yeah.
So she probably had epilepsy and suffered from, like, severe migraines.
That's horrible.
Early in her childhood, it's said that this is a pretty crazy story that a lot of people who have read about her probably have seen.
It said that Elizabeth witnessed a peasant being punished by being sown alive inside the belly of a dying horse.
Wait, excuse me, what?
Yes.
They sowed him alive.
To a horse.
Inside the belly of a dying horse.
They sewed him to the horse.
I'm like, the fuck?
They sewed that motherfucker to a horse?
I'm like, what does that do?
No, they sewed him inside the horse.
Cut the belly of the horse open, shoved him in there, and then sewed it out.
So he was just in a horse's belly.
What the fuck?
Who comes up with that?
Indeed.
Why didn't we talk about that in our meaningful torture?
Well, and by all accounts, young Elizabeth giggled uncontrollably at the side of the man's
head sticking out of the horse's belly before it was sewn up completely.
Yeah, that's not funny.
Yeah.
She thought it was a fucking new.
slap her. She was like, this is great.
Can't. So there's that.
In 1514,
she also
witnessed Hiorhi Dosa's
execution. Hiorhi is like a very big name.
I was like her dad? Dosa was, and I'm probably
saying that wrong, so I apologize.
Was the rebel leader of the group of
peasants who were rising up against the nobility
at this time. Hell yeah.
When he was caught by the crown,
he was dealt with in a pretty nightmarish man.
I would assume so. And she watched.
What was it?
He was executed by being roasted alive.
Oh, no.
An illustration from a 16th century Hungarian almanac actually shows this as his reveling captors placing a red-hot metal crown on his head.
He's bound half-naked to an iron throne, and hot coals were being shoveled beneath his seat to ignite the throne and heat it up.
And he's naked sitting on it with a, like, you know, burning lava-hot crown on his head.
like in Game of Thrones.
They literally were like, oh, you want to be king?
I swear, he must have got a lot of,
George R. Martin got a lot of shit from this case.
Ouch.
So he had a lot of accomplices, and they were all around him.
Some of them were being impaled.
And the ones that weren't being impaled were being force-fed his flesh
before being broken on the wheel and hanged.
Ew, I just got nausea.
Little Elizabeth watched.
It was like, cool.
This is like last week how you were like,
People used to bring their kids to fucked up shit.
This is what I'm saying.
And then sometimes you get Elizabeth Boutary out of it.
Yeah.
Like, what could you expect?
Yeah.
Now, interestingly, it is fact that Elizabeth received an amazing education.
Oh, wow.
So she was smart.
Her family strongly believed, which is kind of crazy for the time, that a girl should
be as educated as a boy.
Wow, that's awesome.
Which is nuts for the time.
In fact, she was trained in, you know, the classics, mathematics.
She could read and write in Hungarian, Greek, Latin, German, and even Slavic.
Shit.
Yeah.
And she also appears to have been interested in, like, religion and occultism.
But on the other side of that, she was really into sciences, astronomy, botany, biology, anatomy.
Like, she was into, she was really well.
She was brilliant.
Right.
And you see it later.
And this was something she did throughout her life.
Like, she was a full, like, I want to learn until I die kind of person.
I mean, she ordered various books from merchants.
She would ask fellow nobles to lend her books, which is crazy for like a woman of that time.
Definitely.
They weren't allowed to do this.
And it's said in her last years spent under house arrest, which we'll get into that later.
She passed time by writing on the walls when parchment paper ran out.
Wow.
And various documents written by her prove that she could write fluently, which is huge because a lot of people are illiterate around here.
That's crazy.
So she was really interesting
Before she started being like a vicious beast
Like cool
Yeah
She didn't kill everyone
I mean she was as a child
She was a tomboy
She enjoyed dressing as boys
Playing with boys
And playing games typically reserved for boys at the time
But as she grew older
She kind of also liked
You know
Dressing like a lady in big gowns
Adorning herself with tons of jewels and diamonds
And doing lady things
Who doesn't love adorning yourself with jewels and diamonds
Well, and she just, she had this, like, cool, like, I can be a tomboy,
but I can also put myself in a ball gown and feel great.
Like, I can do both of these things.
It reminds me of Ever After.
Drew Barrymore.
It's exactly that.
This is the, this is the Ever After story.
It's not.
Spoiler.
It's literally not at all.
This is Cinderella.
No, it's not.
She marries the prince of the end.
Don't lie to me.
I mean, all that's really cool, but she was also known to throw insane fits of rage.
when she was little.
Same.
I'm kidding.
When she was younger and it went obviously to her adulthood,
she literally, if you pissed her off,
it was like, all bets her off.
So they could not hold her down when she got angry.
I think she had, you know,
generations of inbreeding that probably gave her some kind of mental illness
that was untreated.
And she was also having migraines.
Migrants will make you want to fuck shit up.
I get migraines.
They really suck.
So I think she just,
and I think she witnessed a lot of violence
aggression and brutality, and that's how she knew how to deal with things.
Okay.
Now, in 1571, 11-year-old Elizabeth was forced to become engaged to count Natistee, who was 16 years old
at the time.
Okay.
This was very common, and it was always used to, like, solidify political bonds between
families and shit.
It was always for some reason.
It wasn't like, they were like, we love each other.
Hashtag history.
In 1574, 14-year-old Elizabeth.
became unexpectedly pregnant.
Uh-oh, and she wasn't married yet?
With a child fathered by a peasant boy.
Oh, no.
Yes. Scandal.
It's like Mulan now.
She brought shame to her family.
I was like, Mulan got pregnant by a peasant boy?
Yes.
I was like, whoa.
No, the whole thing about my husband is like,
you're bringing shame to the family.
It's exactly that.
See, you're nailing these.
I guess I'm in a Disney mood, which never happens.
It's weird that Disney is like being brought into your mind.
with Elizabeth Bouthrie.
Now, of course, this was the 16th century.
What did they do?
So she was moved to a home to have the child in secret
because you don't bring shame upon your family.
Did they lie and say that it was her man?
No, they just didn't tell anybody.
Nobody's going to know about it.
And her fiancé, his name was Count Ferrence.
That's his first name.
Like Terrence, but with an F.
Exactly.
He tracked down, while she was giving birth to this.
He tracked down the baby daddy.
He tracked down this peasant boy for punishment.
Oh, no.
And as we'll see later, Count Ferrence really loves punishment, too.
Oh, no.
So what was the punishment?
A match made in hell.
He was castrated.
And then a pack of wild dogs was let loose on him to shred him into bits.
Bye, I got to go.
My ride's here.
So I bet Elizabeth was like, hmm.
Do you know that one and I did me up?
What?
In Game of Thrones.
I know, that's exactly.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm pretty sure George R.
Martin, like, strictly looked at Elizabeth Boucher's life and was like,
Game of Thrones. Now, even though this was because of her, this event apparently intrigued Elizabeth,
who was only 14 at the time, and she found pleasure in it. The idea that this boy was castrated
and then shred to bits by wild dogs. So, no, she reminds me of Circe. She's real weird. That's what
I'm saying. This is Game of Thrones. In 1575, 14-year-old Elizabeth married Count Farrants,
because she was like, yeah. She was like, cool. That was great.
who was 19 years old at the time.
The wedding was straight up Game of Thrones.
Funny fact, before the wedding ceremony,
Ferrence would have to prove his loyalty and love for his new bride.
Yeah, because she was loyal.
And the way they did this was they had Elizabeth,
along with all the members of her bridal party, party.
Pouty.
Her bride of bridal party.
Cover their faces with veils.
And then each girl had to parade around him in like a sexy way.
and he had to choose, like, and they all had to pretend to be Elizabeth, and he had to, like,
figure out which one was her.
And they all imitated her and, like, were very dramatic and, like, theatrical and everything.
And it was, he had to select the true bride over the imitators.
Shit, that will never happen at my wedding.
Yeah.
Thank you next bye.
And he, and he did.
He got her right?
He got her right, yeah.
What did she have to do to prove her loyalty?
Nothing.
Just make a baby.
Yeah, she just had to consummate that shit.
Got it.
So, sounds about right.
So, and I mean this, that was just one part of the wedding.
They had jousting.
Like they had the whole, think of like Geoffrey Barathean's wedding.
Up until he does.
And that was pretty much their wedding.
Like any Game of Thrones, like huge wedding.
Right.
That's what it was.
Cool.
So they moved into the castle Kashis, which lies over the northwestern part of Hungary.
Four years after they were married, Count Farance was named the chief commander of all Hungarian troops.
So he was in charge of leading all of the troops
through the battle against the Ottoman Empire
all throughout the long war.
It was called the long war.
What was that the word called?
Voidvad.
Was he a Void vaudevod?
I guess that would be exactly what he was, yeah.
They just said that he was like the chief commander, but...
If that's what Voidvod actually translates to.
It's the same exact thing.
So I would say Voidvod, yeah.
You're right.
So he was in charge of leading the battles against the Ottoman Empire
throughout the long war, which was like 13 years long.
It would have been funny if you were like, which only lasted three weeks.
The long war, which was four days.
Now, he was known to be particularly cruel to the enemy.
He was? No way.
When he captured Turks in war, he was known to dance with their dead bodies and play catch and football and kickball with their severed heads.
Great.
Yeah.
So he was a cool guy.
Totally.
Now, her husband was obviously way a lot now because he's off being a void boss.
And it was up to Elizabeth to run the castle in all the lands surrounding the castle.
Oh, and I bet she did that damn thing.
And Elizabeth, so Elizabeth was one of like the first women who was really in like full power.
Now, also during this time, staff from the castle would go down into the village surrounding the castle and basically recruit young girls to come work in the castle because she needed a lot of help now.
And I would say to that, I'm busy that day.
Except you would definitely be like, I will come because you would think that you were working for a countess.
So because these were poor villagers, families were more than happy to have their child work for the count and countess.
Because it meant they were going to, I mean, she had like a finishing school, they were going to learn to be ladies.
They were going to make a ton of money to bring back to the family.
And they were going to make connections.
So it was like a big deal.
The problem arose when it began to become clear that these young girls were not coming back.
Oh. Now, it was pretty common knowledge that the count and countess treated their servants and staff horrifically.
Oh, good.
So it's kind of a testament to how bad life was back then because these people were still willing to send their girls to this hellhole.
That's really sad.
Just to make some money.
Now, Elizabeth hired an older Croatian woman pretty early on.
Her name was Anna Darvulia.
She worked with Elizabeth from 1601 to 1609.
and according to official Hungarian court documents and testimony, Anna was known to be a witch,
and Elizabeth became really into the idea of like black magic.
I was going to say Elizabeth wasn't a witch.
No, she just started getting like super into it.
Anna was also known to be very violent and a really fucking scary person.
She was the one who helped guide Elizabeth through her love and fascination of torture and pain, basically.
She was the one that kind of just like held her hand through this.
Anna's favorite method of torture included.
beating someone repeatedly up to 500 times in some cases until death just happened.
500 times.
She served as, quote, gatekeeper for Elizabeth, as well as her personal advisor.
So she was the closest to her.
Yeah.
And she, in fact, was the one who reportedly advised the countess to take on only peasant girls
who, quote, had not yet tasted the pleasures of love.
So virgins.
Okay.
This is when we're going to start now.
This is Elizabeth is around in her 20s and we're going to go up to like her 40s, 50s.
Damn, she lived a long time for back then.
She really did.
So one day, just as a little anecdote, Elizabeth wrote to her husband about Anna,
quote, she has taught me a lovely new one.
Catch a black hen and beat it to death with a white can.
Keep the blood and smear a little of it on your enemy.
If you get no chance to smear it on his body, obtain one of his garments and smear it.
And that was supposed to be like a spell of some sort, like a hex or a curse.
But it just proves it's like in an official letter that she wrote her husband.
So it proves that she was like really into this.
One document even says that Elizabeth and Anna, this is fuck,
would take servant girls outside in the dead of winter and force them to lie in the snow naked.
If that wasn't fucked up enough, they would then pour cold water all over them
and wait for it to freeze on their skin.
once they figured the girls were frozen, they would just leave them there to die.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
While he was home, Count Ferrence would torture the servants and give Elizabeth lessons from what he learned at war.
Because he tortured prisoners of war.
So he was like, let me help you.
That's what we do.
Yeah, like I got stuff to show you.
One particular gift that he was supposedly brought home to his wife from war was a device that
resembled a hand of sharp claws that could be fitted over the fingers to cut slash and
stab the victim. So the Freddie Kruger hand. Oh my God. Who else had that that we talked about
somebody that had that? Oh, I think the toy box murderer? The toy box killer had one of those. Yeah.
Dude, that's how you know you're straight up evil. Right? That's fucked. And if you thought that
springtime brought any sort of reprieve from the outdoor torture sessions, you are wrong.
In spring, Elizabeth's husband taught her a new method.
He would drag a servant girl into the midday heat, strip them naked.
After this, they would cover them in honey and tie them to something to make sure they were completely
help us, but still standing up.
They were then left that way for a day, a night, at least.
Elizabeth would watch as insects would be drawn to the honey and swarm the girl's body.
Oh, my God.
When the girl would drop to the ground from exhaustion and pain,
Ferrinck showed her that you put oiled paper between the girl's toes and light them on fire to revive her.
Oh, my God.
Elizabeth watched this and participated in it.
Oh, my God, my toes hurt.
Yeah.
And sometimes they would just tie them down while they were covered in a honey and just leave them out there for animals and insects just to eat alive.
I need a deep breath.
Yeah.
Because it can be limiting to torture using such seasonal devices as ice and honey.
Elizabeth eventually had a room in the basement of the castle set up to torture her servant girls whenever she wanted to, which was a lot.
Witnesses claimed that in the room, servants' girls' mouths were sewn shut, and various things were shoved under their fingernails.
Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
Yeah, that was one of her favorites.
Even her youngest daughter, Catalan, apparently took place in at least one torture session.
Oh, she made her?
Yeah.
The event occurred before Catalan's wedding.
two young girls were tortured and burnt so badly that they later died during the marriage festivities.
No.
Yeah.
She was really mostly into young virgins, but there is one case that I had to include, because it was so brutal.
Oh.
Where she brutally tortured an older married woman working for her.
Jesus.
So at the time, people would use unmarried virgin girls to work, like, as table attendance during a certain festival.
Okay.
Being a virgin back then was like a big deal.
She was fucking weird.
When she didn't have enough young virgins on hand,
Countess Elizabeth ordered this older woman to pretend to be one of the virgins and dress up like a young girl.
The lady's name was modely, I think it was.
And up until this point, she had actually been a favorite of the countess
and worked for her in various capacities.
Uh-oh.
According to witnesses, however, the woman said, quote,
But certainly, my dear high and gracious lady,
I cannot be a girl since I already have a husband and a son, my little farink.
So the lady, Elizabeth went fucking nuts at this because how dare you tell me no.
And so she went outside, got a small log, commanded this woman, moddly, to put diapers on the log, and carry it around with her in the castle.
And she was yelling at her, suckle your child, you whore, don't let it cry.
What?
And Elizabeth would even wake her up at night and, like, violently shove the wood into her face and be like, like, suckle your.
let your child suckle.
This fucked up weird, like, here's your baby.
And witnesses later said that she tortured her after that in various ways until she finally died.
That stresses me out.
Yeah.
Isn't that weird and fucked up?
Yeah, like, it's just a log, lady.
Like, she made her put a diaper on a log and then called her a whore and told her to let your baby drink from it.
Shame.
Like, I can't.
Shame.
Now, the thing is, this wasn't just punishment.
It was not always or even mostly due to some.
infraction Elizabeth claimed these servants had committed.
Like I said earlier.
It was just to give Elizabeth pleasure.
Like something to do?
She just liked pain and suffering.
Not even that.
It's not boredom.
She likes pain and suffering.
I hate that.
It gives her pleasure.
This is, it's not because she's bored.
It's because she's like, I need pleasure.
This is my hobby.
This is how I get it.
In 1604, after being sick for some time, her husband ended up dying.
Bummer.
He left the care of his wife and his children, which I guess was a
common thing. You leave the care of your wife and children into somebody you trust.
Sure. To Elizabeth's cousin, Hiorhi Torzo. Yeah. Which is who wrote that letter in the beginning.
Was everyone in their family named Hiorke. Well, Hiorhi was the one who wrote that letter in the
beginning of this. Yeah, my cousin was fucked up. Yeah. He was the Count Palatine of Hungary.
So Elizabeth was at this time, Elizabeth was already pretty prone to feelings of like depression,
isolation and loneliness.
And so when he died,
aka guilt.
Well, not even that.
She just didn't like being alone.
You're giving her way too much credit.
I'm just, no, I'm just a normal ass human.
You're giving her too much credit.
No, she just didn't like being isolated in the castle.
That's all.
She didn't feel any fucking guilt.
She just didn't like being alone.
I can't wrap my head around that.
I'm not giving her any credit.
So when he died, that was a really tough one for her
because now she really was alone.
So she quickly became deeply depressed.
I mean, they were married for almost 30 years, so, you know.
And he was her partner in torture.
I was going to say.
He was kind of the perfect partner.
Like, he liked what she liked.
She was so lonely.
She was like, I'm having to do this shit alone.
Where am I going to get my ideas?
Exactly.
And she responded to these feelings of depression by staying in her bedroom for long periods of time.
In late July of 1605, she received the news that her older brother, Istvon Bauteri, had died.
Oh, no.
So she made the journey back to the Exed family estate for the funeral.
According to witnesses, during the ride there in the carriage, she fucking snapped, viciously started attacking her handmaids who were riding with her.
And three of these attendants were tortured so severely during the trip that they died.
Oh my God.
The countess ordered their bodies buried along the way.
What?
Yeah.
One of the girls who managed to survive the trip.
to Exed, who was, she was a young noble by the name of Zicky, Zishi, Ziki. Did she die there when they got there?
She was later killed when they got there. When her relatives came to Elizabeth and were like,
how the fuck did she die? They, she came back and said, oh, she passed away from cholera,
which was a very common illness at the time. You got like on the room. Which you'll see,
she used that as an excuse for a long time before she got caught. It was like, oh, they're all dying of
cholera. It's crazy. And she's like, yet I'm not. And she would.
and we're going to get into this in a minute, she would make sure nobody could see the bodies
because she was like, obviously these bodies were like beaten beyond recognition, and they were
maimed beyond recognition and she couldn't be like, oh, it's the cholera.
They're like, that's not a...
Yeah, cholera slitter throat. I don't know. It's weird.
During the return trip back, the coachman, whose name was Petrus, said that when the countess
traveled from Ex-Ed back home, she tortured the young daughter of a nobleman the entire time.
The girl died and was buried midway.
Holy shit.
So she killed like seven people during that whole fucking trip.
Like she's a fucking savage.
Like you can't even take a break?
No.
Most serial killers take a break.
Yeah, I'm saying.
When she later attended the coronation of King Matthias of Hungary, which is going to be
important later.
Okay.
She burned several of her attendants with molten iron on the trip home and tortured some of them
to near death as well.
Why did she just have that laying around?
Well, what we're going to see, too, is that she, it seems like when she was going to big social events, she would get stress.
I was going to say to, like, anxiety.
She responded to this by fucking murdering people.
Like, it's bizarre.
You know, some people down the breathe app on their phone and other people, fucking torture people on death.
Torture people on the way there.
Those in her circle, who later testified against her, we're going to see, said she would often be so saturated.
with blood after torturing someone, that she would have to change halfway through.
I was thinking this whole time, I was like, this lady must have had to get, like, new dresses
made all the time. Which she can, because she's, like, go through it. But damn. And she always
ordered her handmaids, lackeys, basically, to beat and whip and cut the girls so that there was
enough blood on the floor to scoop up with their hands. So maybe she did bottle it up and put
it on herself. I believe, honestly, I'm willing to believe she used it. Yeah. In some way.
Especially because of that letter where she was like smeared on your enemy.
Exactly.
So it's like, but I don't think she bathed in a bathtub of it.
As cool as that sounds.
Maybe she like splashed in the puddles.
As like metal as that sounds.
It's still like legend.
I mean, it's there.
Yeah.
We don't know.
You never know.
I mean, I tried to prove it wrong through science, but I don't know.
She also could have had like a special tub that she went into.
And maybe she just filled it a little bit.
Yeah.
We just won.
I mean, that doesn't seem.
Or maybe she just like laid down in it.
and that's why she wanted them to be able to scoop it up.
There you go.
Because she just, like, rolled around.
She's rolled around.
I wouldn't fucking put it past her.
There are your theories.
Exactly.
So another member of her inner circle,
courtmaster Dezio,
testified later when all this shit went down,
that, quote,
she withheld water from many of them
until they became very thirsty.
And he said,
when she would eventually allow them to have something to drink,
it was her ordering the girls to urinate,
cup their hands below to catch the flow,
and then drink it from their hands.
No.
Yeah.
And he swore on his honor that this was true.
That's so fucked up.
Yeah. And when asked by court officials what else he knew,
he said that he heard how the wide fire iron was heated.
The girl's arms were burned to smoke and ash.
Ouch.
And the smaller round fire iron was also heated.
And he said, quote,
until very hot and on my honor shoved into their vaginas.
What?
Yeah.
A hot tire iron, like fire iron.
Oh my God, oh my God, no.
Okay, pallet cleanser here.
No more.
No more.
I think this is where the pallet cleanser needs to go.
This is your pallet cleanser with Annie.
Did you know that almonds are part of the Peach family?
This has been your pallet cleanser with Annie.
So just because she was in.
traveling outside to torture servant girls doesn't mean she slowed down. In fact, this is when
the idea of young blood being like a youth serum came into play. Great. It's not known exactly
how she came up with this idea, but there are a couple of theories. One is that her husband's
recent death just left her to kind of like face her own aging and mortality. And she kind of
desperately clung to any kind of legend or myth about blood being a remedy, you know.
The other one, that's like the persistent theory about how she came up with this, is that she
struck a servant girl one day for brushing her hair too hard and a splatter of the servant girl's
blood like hit her own skin.
And it appeared to smooth and purify her complexion.
So that's how she was like, oh, I'm going to kill you now and use your blood because you
made me look pretty.
Great.
Either way, she decided young blood is what she needed to stop the aging process.
Oh, but she did live a long time.
She did.
So everybody go, you know, kill servant girls and bathe in their blood.
Or just get blood facials because that's your own blood.
But this is the whole point.
It's not her own blood.
It's young virginal blood.
Shit.
That's the whole point.
Now, she was having Anna Darvulia, her like witch assistant, bring her servants to her
bedroom now because again remember she was depressed she wasn't going outside that's why she had to have
it brought to her now once in there she would bite them cut them or burn them with hot molten metal
and gather their blood to use on her skin awesome now one story that started some of the rumors that
would later take elizabeth down was a young servant girl died suddenly in the night her body was
placed in a casket and the local pastor Istvan. It's a lot of Jorhees and Istvans. Magyari
was called to come get the casket. Do they just have caskets lying around back then?
When he got there, he was a little surprised because the girl had already been put into the
casket and the lid was already sealed. Oh. So. Sealed? Yeah. So ordinarily he would come and the
girl would be lying in her bed. He would do his thing and then they put her in the casket. It was kind of his job.
And there, and it was sealed.
So the countess Boutary took him aside and said,
I'm afraid that we have a case of collar on our hands.
And he was like, oh, okay.
Like, cool.
Within days, another casket was brought to the church by Elizabeth's servants.
Sealed and closed.
This one was way bigger than the usual casket.
And rumors had already started going around that three girls had been nailed inside.
So asking the servants to,
to wait a second, the reverend went to the castle to find Elizabeth, and he said,
why are the three, like, can I ask you if there are three bodies in that casket?
Sure.
Because that's what I'm hearing.
And she said, there are only two.
So she admitted there's two bodies in that casket.
And when he said, what happened to them, how did all three of them die so quickly?
She said, one died.
One had already died, and the other one was near death.
So we waited it out and put them together in a single coffin.
And she was like, reduce, reuse, and recycle.
She was like, I'm all about the environment.
So because she was using young girls like tissues,
she suddenly it became an issue finding new ones from poor families in the village.
Because she fucking took them all.
And she basically did.
This is when she made a huge mistake that would lead to her getting caught.
They always make a huge mistake.
She made a huge mistake.
She started bringing girls of noble births to satisfy her needs.
She didn't go to the tippity top aristocratic,
She went to, like, the lowest noble birth she could, but still noble.
The way she did this was in 1610 when Lady Boutary opened a, it's called a gynacium,
which is like a finishing school for noble women.
Oh.
I wonder if gynecology came from this.
Because I was like, what is this going to be?
And suddenly, a bunch of noble girls were dying.
Where is I?
To come to this finishing school because it was so prestige.
She's a countess.
She's countess Boutary.
She's like it.
She is like it.
Of course, rumors are she really is.
Of course, rumors were now swirling about what the fuck was going on in this castle.
Yeah.
So their families decided to take the matter up with King Matthias of Hungary, we mentioned earlier.
Was she related to him?
No, but she went to his coronation and on the way she murdered some people, like just a few.
Yeah.
Now, after hearing one of these rumors from a member of his royal court, the King of Hungary sent
an advisor to investigate what the fuck was going on.
Okay.
This advisor was Hiorhi Torso.
Jeez, Louis.
The same one who is in the letter in the beginning.
Oh, okay.
The same one who was left to care for Elizabeth and the kids.
I thought this was another Hiorhi.
No, this is the same hiori.
Hiori.
So, so that's the same guy.
Like, he was supposed to be taken care of Elizabeth and the kids while her husband did
like the dead thing.
Cool.
By this time, Elizabeth knew that she was probably.
borrowed time. Like she was seeing that
people were starting to ask questions.
And she was starting to loosen. She was like, shit's
going to happen. So she went crazy.
No, she started trying to plead her case
subtly by claiming these girls died
these girls died of natural causes
or cholera. And she even
told Torzo because remember she
knew Torso. Right. She was
in fact, I believe he was her cousin.
I think you did say that at one point. By some
way method. Some inbreeding
shit. I think you said that earlier. Yeah.
And so he would like come to the castle.
at times. Like he wasn't there all the time or anything.
Right.
But I think it was like when they were having tea once,
she told him that one of the noble girls
in her finishing school program
murdered all the other ones in a jealous rage.
And he was like totally.
And he was like, probably not,
but I'm not going to question you.
And when none of this was sticking,
she started making arrangements.
So in September 1610, she made up her will.
Oh.
Would she leave everything to?
Well, it was not just a statement about where
to divvy up her goods after she died.
But it also transferred her estates and possessions during her lifetime.
So all of her estates, all the shit she had.
And it bequeathed everything to her three surviving children.
Okay.
Anna, Catalan, and Powell.
The only thing that she wanted to keep was her wedding dress, which she said she intended
to, quote, wear until my death.
Wow.
And she did.
Was it covered in blood?
No, because she didn't use it for that shit.
Wow.
So sometime in the fall of 16.
10, Torso showed up completely unexpected at the village because he was sent by the king,
the village that surrounded the castle.
And he wanted to see what the hell was going on while he was away.
And at this point, you said the king was starting to...
The king had heard rumors and he was like, go investigate.
Torso was one of his, like, royal court members.
Got it.
Because he's like a Palatine, a court, Count Palatine.
So he sent him to go find out what the fuck was going on.
Okay.
So he showed up unexpectedly in the village and started talking to people.
And like tripped over a mound of dead girl.
Yeah, pretty much.
And once he arrived, he assigned two people to gather evidence.
So witnesses started coming forward like fucking crazy.
Uh-oh.
Over 300 people came forward on their own volition to testify against the countess.
And the few people that I mentioned that she kept close enough to aid in this whole debacle.
Yeah.
These witnesses were villagers, priests, nobles, and staff from a bunch of the countesses' different estates.
So these were all people that could eyewitness testimony.
Right, right.
Some of these people said they were there to watch the torture themselves,
and other people said they just heard things.
They all said that torture was the main focus of Elizabeth's methods.
Death was the end result, but it was always because of severe torture.
Nobody died quick, or it was always severe torture was the cause of death.
Oh, my God.
Bodies began being found now.
Somewhere in the castle.
Some were in local graveyards.
Some were buried around the castle,
and others were discovered in all the rooms of the castle, including fireplaces.
They were just in fireplaces?
I'm sure she tried to burn them.
Did the castle smell like shit?
Probably, but a lot of things smelled like shit back then, I think.
Oh, I didn't think of that.
It probably wasn't that big.
His investigation also turned up that Elizabeth had like a huge posse of people in the village
that would help to get the girls.
Initially, we thought that these girls were only being lured to the castle with the promise of work and such.
but he later discovered that some of them were just straight up abducted.
Damn.
Yeah.
In fact, nobles such as Lady Anna Wellicker, Lady Judith Pogan, Lady Zelle, and others were
supposed to have acted as, quote, girl catchers for her.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
This was like a mission.
Wasn't this fucked up?
Yeah.
Now was the trial time.
Yes.
Because you have to remember that letter in the beginning was what happened when Torzo
entered the castle.
He literally tripped over bodies.
So he just caught her, like, right-handed.
So now the trial came.
Unfortunately, Anna Davulia, her right-hand woman,
died.
Died before Toa Zoko would arrest her.
Did she kill herself?
No.
She died of, like, a cancer or something.
Good.
This was a big blow because she was thought to be the main person next to Elizabeth,
and even thought to possibly be her secret lover.
Oh, shit.
Her testimony was going to be vital.
And since he couldn't get Anna,
Anna anymore. He got the rest of the small amount of staff that was used to help in the torture.
They were all arrested on December 30th, 1609. Wow. In January 1610, the evidence was presented at
trial, you know, witnesses testified all that shit. And in the end, this group was convicted for the
murder by torture of at least 80 girls. Every one of them were executed in the end for their roles.
Good. One servant on the inside testified that she had special access.
to Elizabeth's bedroom.
That was her special privilege.
While Elizabeth was not in the room once,
she noticed there was a diary laying there.
Did she take it?
The diary contained a list of names.
These names were belonging to every single one of the victim.
What was shocking was the amount of names was not 80.
She claimed there were upwards of 650 names on the ledger,
and the court initially only thought there were 80,
which is still insane.
80 is still crazy.
80's huge.
650.
is bonkers.
That's a small town.
I don't even know what to say about that.
Benedict Decio, who we mentioned earlier, was the Countess's court master.
He was the one that said that he watched them, like, have to drink their own pee.
And he was the one that knew about the vagina thing.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
He was the man that she held in, like, the highest trust.
Wow.
Desio was named during the torture and admitted to seeing everything, basically.
He described in court how she, quote, disciplined a young maid called Ilya for clumsiness.
Oh, shit.
I would have been fucked.
This girl, apparently, was young.
Like, she was like 11, maybe, like she was young.
Elizabeth stripped the girl and then began stabbing her in the fingers.
It became more and more insane and she became more and more angry and frenzied and began moving up to her finger,
from her fingers to her arms.
And then when her arms were done,
she started stabbing her in the legs.
And the girl is literally, like,
he said she was falling on the ground, like, crying.
And she's trying to get away,
and she just kept stabbing at her, stabbing at her.
And then she said she was so frenzied
that she started whipping her violently
and burned her hands with a nearby candle.
Oh, my God.
And she did not stop until the girl died right there.
And he said he literally stood there and watched that.
How, like, how do you just stand there and watch that and not try to fucking stop it?
It's crazy.
Like, why didn't know what?
Did anyone try to stop her?
No, because they were scared of her, I think.
She had a lot of power.
I know, I get it, but damn.
I know.
I know, because I agree.
It's like, these next ones are from record.
So I'm going to read them as they are.
So this one is the first one.
A 12-year-old girl named Pola somehow managed to escape from the castle.
but Dorka, who was the, she was, actually she was Elizabeth's kids wet nurse who helped her torture people.
Aided by Helena Jo, caught the frightened girl by surprise, and brought her forcibly back to Keshti's castle.
Oh, no.
Clad only in a long white robe, Countess Elizabeth greeted the girl upon her return.
The countess was in another of her rages.
She advanced on the 12-year-old child and forced her in.
into a kind of cage. This particular cage was built like a huge ball, too narrow to sit in,
too low to stand in. Once the girl was inside, the cage was suddenly hauled up by a pulley,
and dozens of short spikes jutted into the cage. Pola tried to avoid being caught on the spikes,
but Fisko maneuvered the ropes so that the cage shifted from side to side, Paula's flesh was
torn to pieces. Oh my God. That's from record. Another accomplice testified that on
some days, Elizabeth had stark naked girls laid flat on the floor of her bedroom and tortured
them so much that she could scoop the blood up by the pailful afterwards.
And so she had servants bring up cinders in order to cover the pools of blood because it was so
much.
And a young maid servant who did not fare well during the tortures died very quickly and was
written by the countess in her diary with, quote, she was too small.
Like she just wrote that?
Yeah.
Like that was her comment next to her name was like she was too small.
She couldn't handle it.
Like she died quickly.
It was annoying.
Like she was too small.
At one point in her life, Elizabeth Boutary was very ill.
Good.
She couldn't move from her bed.
But that didn't stop her.
She couldn't get up in torture her servant girls.
So she demanded that one of her female servants be brought before her.
This is Dorothea Zentes, who's Dorka.
They used to call Dorothy and Dorothy.
It was known as Dorka back then.
Like in Salem, there was a Dorka.
This woman was really strong.
And she, so she brought her in there and she was like,
go drag a servant girl to me right now.
I'm like, I don't want to.
When she got brought over to her bedside,
Dorka held her up there.
Elizabeth sat up in her bed and, quote,
like a bulldog, she opened her mouth and bit the girl
first on the cheek.
Then she went for the girl's shoulders where she ripped out a piece of flesh with her teeth.
After that, Elizabeth proceeded to bite the girl's breasts.
Oh.
Like she literally was like, bring me a servant girl so I can chew on her.
Like literally.
Did she have like sharpened teeth or some shit?
No, she was just a fucking raging beast.
That's what it's, it's crazy what you can do.
Your mouth is one of, you know, the strongest things on your body.
Oh, if you're really mad.
and you want to rip some flesh out of someone.
I could say some mean things when I'm mad.
There you go.
Couldn't mouth.
Fight anybody like that.
No, you're probably wondering where Elizabeth is in this trial.
Like what was her?
Everyone else got executed.
Yeah.
What happened to Elizabeth?
Well, she never went to trial.
Her noble birth made it illegal to try her without an act of parliament.
Could the king just write some shit up?
If they had done this, it would have set a precedent that would have put a lot of noble assholes
in a hot seat, potentially.
so they all wanted to avoid it.
Oh, no.
Even Torzo, he could have been put somewhere for any number of things,
so he was like, yeah, let's not do that.
So to make sure this thing never entered that situation,
Thorzo reminded King Matthias that a public trial would not only discredit Bautry
and Farance her husband, who was from another noble family.
And he was like a known as like a revered war hero.
Sure.
So they also said it was going to discredit the nobility
in the crown by association.
So they were like, we can't drag her in a trial.
This is going to take us all down.
So the Boutary family and the Natistee family agreed to cancel Matias' debts that he had,
which he owed to Elizabeth.
Elizabeth had lent him money.
Lent the king money?
Yes.
Lent the crown money before.
Oh, wow.
So these two families agreed to cancel that debt,
and Matias decided that Elizabeth wouldn't stand trial,
but instead would receive a very specific punishment.
So Thorzo is known to have said to Elizabeth before her punishment was doled out,
quote, you, Erzabet are like a wild animal.
You do not deserve to breathe the air on earth or see the light of the Lord.
You shall disappear from the world and never reappear in it again.
So remember, Elizabeth is prone to bouts of depression, isolation, loneliness.
She does not like being alone.
So don't worry.
she didn't get out scot-free.
She was put into her bedroom
and every single window and door was bricked shut.
She was sealed inside of her torture quarters forever.
The only passage to the outside world
was a small slot used to pass her food through.
She shouldn't have gotten that.
She ended up living there for four more years
and she died on August 14th, 1614.
Some believe this was actually Thurzo
fulfilling a promise to Elizabeth's husband
about taking care of her and her kids
is by making this or punna because he was like,
at least you're not being executed.
Because by doing this,
he also spared them a huge public execution
that would have been like a fucking carnival.
Right.
So her kids would have been totally shamed.
Not that they weren't already,
but like a public execution would have made it way bigger of a thing.
So she was like OG grounded.
She was real grounded.
She was like heavy duty grounded.
For real.
Now, as a compelling side story,
this would kind of, there were reasons that the King of Hungary, King Matthias, wanted to see this powerful lady taken down.
I mean, she was definitely a sadist and a murderer and a torturer, but it's interesting to see how convenient her capture and downfall were for a lot of people around her.
Like for years, her husband had been lending money to the Hungarian crown, like I said.
The crown made no effort to pay that debt back.
Because they didn't have to.
Yeah.
And Elizabeth, who was now a widow, who was now a widow,
She was like, you got pay me back now.
So King Matthias was already like, okay, bitch.
Like, stop.
You're annoying.
Like he was mad.
So King Matias knew if he could convict her of a capital crime.
He would not only wipe out his debt to her, but he could also claim her estates.
Oh.
And he would also take out a very powerful woman.
Yeah.
So it's just interesting to see that those two, not that that takes away the fact that she did all this,
but I'm just saying it was very convenient for him to be like, yeah, we won't execute her.
We'll just do this.
So, and that is it.
That is the story of...
What happened to her kids?
Elizabeth Boutrey.
Not a lot is known about her kids.
Oh, her kids and her siblings.
Because they probably were like, that's not my mom.
Yeah, they're like, no.
Like, I don't...
What's a Boutary?
Yeah, no.
My last name is Jones.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah.
What a fucking doozy, bro.
That's the story of Elizabeth Boutry.
Oh, wow.
And again, super sorry about the way I pronounced everything.
I feel like you did a good job.
You can totally yell at me for it.
I know we said,
right because we looked it up yeah and uh i think i got like istvon right yeah and bautry i know it was
right you know what i think you probably got right too anna i bet i did that watch it's probably
anna so yeah that's a crazy story and i was really excited that was a good one but like also like wow
i know this is an intense one yeah so i hope you guys dug it and um we'll let you know what next
week's case is and in a couple of days you have elena's minisode coming up so look forward to it
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What is it? So I'm not going to tell you what it is yet.
Okay. Tell me off air. But it's a crazy one.
Crazy. And I think we will probably give it to you soon because you deserve it. So here you go.
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But not so weird that all your cousin's names are, Hi. Jorge.
And that you start to literally murder everyone in your sight and just, like, douse their blood on top of you.
And then you get locked in your bedroom forever and ever in eternity.
And you only get to eat sandwiches and, like, right on the walls and stuff.
We just hope that you don't keep it that weird.
Definitely don't do that.
The sandwiches is the worst part.
I just made that up.
Don't you did.
Well, because, like, when you said that she got to have food, I just pictured, like a sandwich.
Like a tuna fish sandwich.
But with the celery in it, because those ones suck.
And I hope she had to eat millions of them.
So don't do it.
Gross tuna.
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