Morbid - David Parker Ray AKA “The Toy Box Killer”

Episode Date: September 27, 2018

Guys. This is one of the worst cases you will ever lend your ears to. Park Ranger and all around rude dude David Parker Ray spent 40 years and over $100,000 dedicating his life to the abduction, torture, rape and murder of countless women. His MO reads like a script for the Saw franchise and that's putting it lightly. Hold onto your butts, because The Toy Box Killer is here. Sources: https://allthatsinteresting.com/david-parker-ray-toy-box-killer https://www.abqjournal.com/70489/victim-tells-of-captivity.html https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/albuquerque/items-david-parker-ray Cries in the Desert: The Shocking True Story of a Sadistic Torturer by John Glatt https://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-disturbing-facts-about-david-ray-parker-the-toy-box-killer/ Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey weirdos, I'm Ash and I'm Elena. And this is morbid. No, it's not. What? It's something else entirely. Oh, should I go? No, you can say. Bada boop. Did you miss me? I missed you so much. I was only gone for a weekend. Ash had to go ahead and be good at her job. Yeah, like sort of. Bitch. You know, so I was in New York. In New York. That's where John and I got engaged. F.I. I didn't really. I didn't really. I was in New York. I didn't really. get to see anything like that cool because we stayed in not to like shit on time square but we stayed in time square which is like wiggint touristy i feel like you have to do that once though when you go visit new york that's like the thing you have to do at least once i literally like didn't go shopping like i didn't go anywhere except for class literally class and i went to we went out when we got there on saturday night

and all the bars, the line was so long. All these, like, club promoters. Oh, yeah. Like, for the shitty clubs, though, that you don't want to go to. And for every kind of show imaginable. Especially in Times Square. Oh, yeah. It was wicked fun.

I'm glad you had fun in New York. Thank you. Well, we all just sat here waiting for you. Well, I do have to say that I am a Boston girl, and I liked New York, but I don't think I could live there. No. I love New York. Like, John and my, when we were dating, like, in

even when we first were married, we went there all the time. We went there all the time. That was like our trip. I was going to New York, especially during the holidays, because I love it during the holidays. Yeah, I want to go back during the holidays. It's just more magical. Yeah, it's like everything you want it to be during the holidays. But so is Boston. But like New York is just on a grander scale. It's different. Right, because it's fucking huge. But every time we would go there, we're like, I love visiting New York. But I could, I'm a Boston chick, man. Well, and I give people like mad credit that live there. It's a fast, fucking paced.

Yeah, that's a tough city. So, like, if you live in New York, props to you, man. Yeah, cool city. Because Boston is a lot less, we're like a smaller, more scrappy version of New York. Do you know what, though? I'm really fucking pissed at myself. Why? I didn't eat one ounce of street meat, and I really wanted to.

Like, I was like, I'm going to get a hot dog and I'm going to eat it, or I'm going to get like an Italian sausage or something. I am giving myself salmonella on the strip. Yes. So help me go. God damn it, but I've actually been eating really healthy. So the street meat would have been a little bit of a deviation. So do you know what I did instead?

Like the trashy bitch I am? Oh no. Went to the 24-hour McDonald's. You know what? I support that. I needed something me. I support that. Hairdressers fucking party, dude.

And I'm learning how to keep up. See, autopsy technicians don't party a lot. I wonder why. It's not really like an ex-well, not that it's not exciting, but it's not like a party. Let's not party about the death of this person. Definitely no partying afterwards. Nah. No. So I can't relate. But I'm gel. It was fun. But I'm a dead woman right now. You look great. Do I? You do. For being a dead woman, you look great. I used a lot of under-eye cream. Oh, that's a good call. Yeah. I probably look, I don't look like Quasimoto like I did the other day.

I don't know if you've ever looked like Quasimono. I totally did. I should have taken a photo of it. Did you get that surgery? No, I'm going so... I'm a good fucking sister. Did you go ahead and get that surgery? Did you do that fucking surgery? Like, I've been gone for two days. Have you got surgery yet?

I feel like I haven't gone for much longer. I know. I feel like that too, actually. No, but I think like a few episodes ago back in June, remember we mentioned that my two and a half year old had poked my eye and then scrapped my cornea. Well, I've been having issues with it on and off ever since. So now I have to get some weird-ass laser procedure to...

Because now it's like every couple weeks I wake up in the morning and tear it open again just by opening my eye. That must, that hurts like a bitch of my right? Oh, it's excruciating. Are you like afraid to open your eyes every morning? I am because I, you know, I have a really high pain tolerance. Oh, yeah. So this is by afar the worst pain. Yeah, fuck that.

Because I, and I like slowly will open my eye in the morning now and I have to put goop on my eye at night. Goop. Which I'm sure John is like loves because I'm like, okay, good night, John. And I look over and I have like goo. I have a goop, like, falling out of my eyes. It's like when you have conjunctiveitis. But I won't have to do that after I get this laser thing. Because the laser thing is going to, like, fix.

Because the issue is that it's not healing. So it just keeps ripping open. This laser thing is going to fix it, I guess. But yeah, so it's like Quasimot for a little bit. Fun. But that'll not happen again. And, um, oh, you know what? We have some Patreon because you guys just keep getting better and better.

You guys are the fucking. best. You are the tits. The tuitals. And we thank you. The titules. You guys are the chesticles. You are the chesticles. We should add a tear called the chesticles. I was like, maybe not that. Maybe not.

We'll just have the chesticles. Don't worry about it. Okay. So, without further ado, we have one evil onion added to the group. Heidi Smith. Thanks, Heidi. Heidi, the best. So we have some new members of the window latching coven. We have Crystal L. Weiss Omridge Sick.

Yeah, your name is sick. Your name is sick. And I probably said it wrong, so I'm sorry. Again, everybody correct me by all means. So thank you so much, Crystal. We have Madison Kachigee, which is another cool name, and I might have got it wrong. But Madison, you are a chesticle. Thanks, Madison.

So thank you. We have Norma. Aranda. I just think the name Norma's fucking cool. I love the name Norma. Because I think of Norma Jean Baker. Wow. One Merlin Monroe. That was really fucking very, very girl of us. That was so, that was very girl of us. It was very valley girl of us. Very valley girl of us. So we have Joy Megala or Magala. Thank you, Joy. You bring joy to my life. I was going to say you are such a joy, joy. No, I already said it. Shut the fuck up. Well, I said it too. Shut up. You know what? Joy brought us joy, so let's be joyful. Oh, right. Yes. Yay. Yay. Yay.

The next one is Aaron Brotherton and Aaron go bra. Yeah. I feel like you should have said bruh. Go brough. Go brough. Go brough. Go brough. And the last member of the Windlassing Coven is Lauren O'Brien, who is a close personal

friend of mine and I love you, Lauren. We love you so much for supporting our podcast. Personal friends. And I love you. So thank you, Lauren. If Alina loves you, I probably love you. So we all love you. Oh, my God, love.

The whole morbid family loves you. To round this whole thing out, we have a couple of members of the, or a few members of the Jagged Little Bishes. My favorite little bitches. Shana Ribeiro, and it might be Sheena, but I think it's Shana. So I'm going to go with Shana. I think Shana. Either way, I like your name.

It's pretty. It is pretty. So you know what, Shana? Thank you so much. Rock on. You're a Jagged Little Bitch. We have Kristen. Kristen.

Thank you. You're, it's trying to rhyme something. with it, Piston. You're a Piston, Kristen. What's a Piston? It like fires engines. She fires our engine. A Piston. It's necessary. Kristen, keep on being a piston. Yeah. And we have Samuel Kirk. I just like the name Samuel. Yeah. And we're from Boston where Samuel Adams is like the shit. The tits. So you know what, Samuel? Thanks. We love you. Send us beer. Just kidding. I don't even really like beer. And we have one more honor, a new member of the Jagged Little Bitches, Cameron Edwards,

who was previously in the Evil Onions, I believe, and he has now joined the forces of the Jagged Little Bitches. Thank you, Cameron. And Cameron, thank you so much. You're the best. We love you. You're awesome. And I believe you're from England. And that's really rad.

Hip, hip, cheerio. Again, I was trying to think of an English thing to say, and I couldn't. Pip-hip, cheerio. Exactly. See, Ash nailed it. Thank you. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Erin Brotherton wrote that she wants to be friends, and we'd like to say, Aaron, we're friends. So that happened. So thank you. So, yeah, here we are. And our friendship. I have to mention, guys, how amazing you all were. Because I was posting that negative review we got, or in case some, you guys didn't hear it, some random review.

I think it was from Australia, which we love Australia still, in case. people listening don't know what we're talking about. I posted on Instagram a negative review we got where somebody called us, said we were just another couple of pretentious Americans who think were cool by swearing a lot. Oh, and then they ended with so not funny. I had to post the negative review because it's fun. When somebody really goes out of their way to tell you how much how not funny you are, I have to post it.

Yeah. So just know that in the future. And the response we got for our listeners. That was the best. I was dying. I was like, you guys are fucking amazing. Like, the responses had me rolling. Me too.

I felt so good afterwards. I was like, I love this weird little tribe of listeners. Yes. I love it. I love it. You guys are amazing. And I just had to tell you that again because I can't keep, I can't stop telling you how amazing you are.

Was that thunder? I don't know. Sounded like it. Spook. Spook. But, um, I think that's really all the business we had to take care of. Well, I read this funny thing and I just wanted to. go over it real quick before we dive into this week's episode, which is going to be,

Woo! Guys, I'll let you know. Trust me. But there was just some, like, quick little news thing I saw that. I was like, wow, this is kind of funny. And she didn't tell me what it was. I didn't tell us what it was. So I saw this thing where Six Flags St. Louis, there's this contest going on in October.

And I thought it was a pretty interesting contest that might, our listeners might appreciate. Because I thought it was funny. So people are going to be competing for $300. and season tickets to six flags and then like a few other. But this is in St. Louis, I can't do it. And in St. Louis, yeah. And all you have to do to get this is spend 30 hours in a coffin. Nope.

And he just turned around like, bitch, what the fuck you said? Yeah, literally. So they're going to be, like, participants are going to be chosen. And then they're going to spend 30 hours in a two by seven foot coffin from 11, from 1 p.m. October 13th to 7 p.m. October 14th at the park. And it's like celebrating the 30th year Fright Fest, I guess. Wow. And I're going to get like, they said they'll get brief bathroom breaks, but that's it. The rest of the 30 hours are in the coffin. What if you have to poop? It's not so brief. I guess you got to hold it, man. I guess you got to hold it. And people are

going to get two 2019 gold season passes and stuff. But then also, if two people last the 30 hours because like what if not you know they're they're banking on one person winning yeah if two people get it then they do a drawing to see who gets the 300 bucks so you might spend 300 hours for nothing hours in a coffin and not get your 300 bucks fuck that like I'd be pissed but you also get to keep the coffin what fuck would you do with a coffin you'd be like hanging up yeah let's just put it in the corner of the room can I give some of these people a strategy if they're going to try yeah go ahead. Just take a little bit of fucking Advil PM. You'll be out. That's my secret. It's fine. Yeah. They're not going to test you. I mean, I would never, I'm, I'm pretty claustphobic. I could not do this on any level. Putting me in a coffin is not a good idea.

I feel like I just have to smoke a lot of weed beforehand. I couldn't do anything to make this okay for me. I would fall asleep if I smoked the right of that amount of weed or took some Advil PM. So there you go. But I don't know, not for 30. hours. Well, that's the thing. That's a long time. That's a long time just to lay down anyways. But yeah, I just thought that was an interesting little tidbit. And it'll, um... What if somebody, like, snuck sedatives? Is that what you... Is that what that's called? I wonder if they drug test you before you get in the cavern. They're like, listen, Linda. You have to be clean. I fucking know. It's like the Olympics. That you took the shit.

Listen, Linda. I know you have the syserp. So just leave, Linda. Fucking save this for the real heroes. okay. The real year. Oh, fucking Linda. Fucking Linda, man. And speaking of Linda, oh.

This has nothing to do with Linda. I was like, oh, I didn't mean to do that. Oh, my God. Look at that segue. What about that segue? Let's just, uh, let's, let's say what our case is today, which Ash didn't know what our case was today. So she's going to be taking this journey right along with you guys.

Oh, and you guys are excited, but I'm not. Let me just tell you. This is going to be scary. An experience. You might as well just go spend 30 hours in a coffin instead of listening to this episode. So we're going to be covering the toy box killer, David Parker Ray. I'm scared. We're going to be doing this in two parts because the more I went into it, the more I just realized there's way too much that I don't want to leave out.

And it's just you need to know the whole tale here. And it's a lot to take in. So I don't want to make it this big long episode that you have to digest in one. serving. So we're going to heap this out into two. Alcar. Now, I'm going to go ahead and put this, I will remind you as the episode goes. Viewer discretion is advised. To get into something rough, but I'm going to put it out right now. This is a very disturbing case. There is a lot of descriptions and mentions of sexual assaults and rape and torture. So if that is not something, you are into? I fully get it. This reminds me of when I turn on like a show on HBO and it's like,

this program contains subject matter. That is not. It's like, we need that. We really do. What do they say not warranted for all viewers? It's not recommended for like younger audiences. This is definitely not recommended for any young audiences at all. So yeah, if you don't feel like you, this is something you're into, you know, we'll give you something else soon. Because we'll probably, we'll try to get the second half of this out soon. So, you know, don't worry. We'll come right back around to something a little more, jaunty. Yeah, next week we'll have to do like a nice murder. We'll do like, oh, yeah, a nice murder. Yeah, you know, like flowers. Like a fun murder. Yeah, flowery one. So, so here we go, guys. No. This one is truly a hold onto your butts moment. I have an hour to

drive home, you fucker. Yeah, this is going to be rough. So, now, I think, I'm, I'm, I'm astounded that a lot of people don't know this case. Including Ash. Yeah. And a lot of people, even like true crime fans will like find that they're, like, because I remember I was listening to this on last podcast on the left like years ago or like a year ago or something. And Henry was saying how he didn't know this case.

And Henry is like a big serial killer. Fan. You know. Henry is a big serial killer. He's a big serial killer. He's a big serial killer like aficionada. So yeah, this is one of the. that's like a really deep, you have to be really, really, really into true crime to know this one.

So don't feel bad if you don't know it. I'm surprised he's not bigger and like more like I, because this guy is top three at the least. I mean, he is in Amarica or other places too. I mean, ever. I mean, he's depraved beyond your wildest imagination. I don't want to. He's, I like to think of him as part BTK, part Robert Burk. Della, part Buffalo Bill from Sounds of the Lambs with like, don't, with a little jigsaw from

saw thrown in. And he's like kind of living the real life version of the Firefly family farm on House of a Thousand Corpses. Wow. Yeah. So again, uh, it's going to be rough. So, let's start, shall we? No. David Parker Ray. Sounds like a fucked up dude. Sounds like a, like a country music star. Yeah, yeah. actually does. He was born November 6th, 1939 in Bellin, New Mexico. Oh, that means he's a Scorpio, I think. There you go. Now, maybe I'm wrong. I have no idea. I'm a Capricorn. That's all I know. Yeah. David was created, he did have an abuse of childhood, but he was created by a different kind of abuse. A scary kind? He was the product of severe neglect in childhood. Okay.

Which a lot of psychologists actually believe neglect has actually has worse consequences on a child's development than more like aggressive. He was constantly passed around to different family members and basically like his mother didn't give a shit about him. He mainly spent a lot of time with a super aggressive and like pretty abusive and stern grandfather. Oh, I was fucking right. He is a Scorpio. There you go. He's a Scorpio. Those bitches are crazy. As a result, he retreated to writing in journals for like hours at a time, which comes back later in his life. That's too long.

And he really relied on like a fantasy world. Fantasizing was a huge thing, which happens in a lot of these cases. These dudes end up just retreating into a fantasy world. Now, his dad was an abusive alcoholic who like was never around. He would just drift into his life every now and then. And when he drifted on in, he would just show up. He'd be a dick. He'd beat everyone up.

and then you just leave a bag of magazines for David. Thanks for coming, bro. So nice to see you again. Magazines, did you bring them this time? Thanks. It's fine. Punch me in the face. Just leave a magazine.

Cool. And now these weren't just like highlights magazines. Oh, did you leave him weird porn magazines? He definitely did. Aw, dude. They were torture sadomasochistic porn magazines. Like, what? Images of women being bound and tortured and beat up.

How old was he when he was young? dropping these off. This was from when he was young up until teenagers. I picked these up for you. Yeah, like here's a bag of S&M magazines. Like, not even just like a Playboy magazine? No. They were like fucked up magazines. My dad's not a regular dad. He's a cool dad. He leaves me same domesticistic porn mags. The other second graders are like, yeah, my dad brings me Cosmic Brownies. We have different childhoods. My dad packed me Cosmic Brownies. I love it. I like that we both just said things at the same time, and it described perfectly who we are as people.

My dad brought me to the baseball game. I'm like, my mom packed me a Twinkie, bitch. No captain could have slurpy, but it's high. We're going to need this. We're going to need this attitude going forward. Now, this kind of porn and this kind of fantasizing became an obsession for him. Good. Like most other ones we spoke of, it really shaped his ideas of sex and women.

Makes sense. Now, he was actually kind of bullied at Mountain Air High School in Mountain Air, New Mexico, where he attended, because he was super shy. He, like, withdrew into himself. Oh. Which is sad. Why do people just not leave shy people alone? Or just be like, hey, want to eat lunch with us?

They just just leave him alone. They don't want to talk to you. So he was especially shy around girls because, like, what fucking basis did he have for learning to speak to girls properly. He's like, hey, can I tie you up sometimes? Literally, can I tie your hands behind your back? I feel more comfortable. So because of all the awfulness in his childhood and the porn, he was devouring way too fucking early. His sexual fantasies were mainly things, you know, like raping, torturing, and even murdering women. Awesome. That's like how he figured he was going to get his jollies off.

Sorry, where was his mom again? His mom was just like, she just like didn't give a shit about him and just passed him off to his grandfather. She didn't. really raise him. So it was around this time that his sister ended up, and we'll talk about her later, because they did talk to her when they caught him later. Because, uh, spoiler alert, he got caught. So his sister discovered his drawings that he used to draw, and he carried this into later life too. No. No. To draw women like tortured and tied up and beaten and murdered. That was his thing. And she found them. And she also found some erotic photographs of bondage acts. No one did anything because no one gave his shit. Now, after he got out of high school, he worked as an auto mechanic

and he also attended the army where he received an honorable discharge from it. He worked as a general mechanic in the army. He ended up marrying and divorcing four times. Damn. Shocking. He had two children. They're like, yeah, stop tying me up. Yeah, like, I'm not into this. They're like, I have no feeling in my wrists anymore. Can we fucking have vanilla sex now? Can we, can we Can we just make love? David. Oh, man. He's like, fuck you, bitch.

No, okay. So one of his children was a son who he named David Jr. Oh. And... Imagine being him? Yeah, no thank you. Fuck that. They talked to him later, too.

It's really sad. He's like, I changed my name. And he also had a daughter who he was pretty close to. I don't want to know anything about that. Genda, Gene Ray, who they called Jesse. Dolly called her? Jessi. Are they from the south?

Well, we're in New Mexico. Do you think they called her Jesset? Or do you think they actually just called her Jesse Ray? No, I think they were like, Jesse. Justerite. Because you can't say Jesse Ray. You have to say, Jesser Ray. You have to say it.

It sounds like just a ray. You can't just be like, oh, hello, Jesse Ray. You have to be like, Jesse Ray. Where are you at? You're making my stomach turn a little bit. Sorry, Jesseroy. Ew. All right, so Jesserai.

And he ended up after he got out of the army and, you know, started being an adult, kind of. He started working as a park ranger and mechanic in the Elephant Butte State Park in New Mexico. Elephant Butte. Yes. And it's spelled B-U-T-E, which kind of looks like elephant butt or elephant booty. Yeah. No, it's booty. Elephant Booty Park.

He was known by his coworkers. A super chill. Super chill, though. Like, literally these people, like, I'll get into it later how shocked they were. Like, his boss, and I'll mention it again later because I'm sure you'll forget, but when he got arrested, his boss put him on paid leave. Because that's how much he believed in him. Like, he was like, no, this is crazy. He didn't do this.

He's coming back to work. Yeah, so he really, they said he was super charming, pretty. pretty quiet but not like too quiet and everyone said he was the guy who literally went out of his way to do favors for people shit like he was like a reliable dude and he would help people out and he also apparently threw like insane parties a lot i mean i'm always down for insane party which ass is like i'm fucking i'm on board david parker i'm a hairdresser i can do this i'm a hairdresser i'll attend your party i'm just kidding you don't want to attend his parties nope so clearly no one knew that he also happened to be one of the rarest types of sinister personality types, which is a sexual sadist.

Oh, no. This is someone like Ted Bundy, for example, who can literally only get off by having another living person being tortured or put through some kind of immense pain and suffering. Can you imagine if that was the only way that you could do your thing? And apparently, there was a thing where they found out that he had contacted, like, someone at Viagra, customer support when he was young. a teenager. Because he couldn't get it up. And he no, because he asked them if Viagra would help him achieve an erection without having to hurt someone. And Viagra was like red flag. And Viagra was like,

uh, sorry, the connection's really bad. That's probably what happened. You know, and they're like, we're recording your call for customer service. They were like, did you hear that morning? No, okay, bye. Bye, by Little David. But yeah, he literally wanted to find out. So that's how bad it was for him when he was like a teenager. He was like, can, will this help me be normal, achieve a normal? That makes me sad because he literally couldn't. He was conditioned.

Right. He was programmed to be there. I mean, you don't have to go and fucking kill people. And he was literally being like, will this help me just have sex with someone without hurting them? I'd be like, no, but a psychologist might. I'd be like, I need to go. It's my lunch break now. So the other person that's going to be involved in these, this case,

is a little lady named Cindy Hinde. Shut the fuck up. Shut up right now. No. Sinda Hinde? Sinda Hinda. Shut the fuck up. Hi, I'm Sinda.

Hinder. See? So, Sinda Hinde. Shut the fuck up. Who does that mean? It's his much younger girlfriend. Oh, how much younger? Who participated in some of this.

She's not crazy younger, but... Much younger than him. Okay. So, Sinda Hinde. Shut the fuck up. That's her last name. Her first name is Cindy Hendy and her last name who shut the fuck up. It's hyphenated.

Yeah. So, Cindy grew up in a nightmare as well. Yeah, because her fucking mom named her Cindy Hendy. Yeah, it's like, come on. Nightmare on day one. She was born on February 6th, 1969 in Seattle, Washington. Mm-hmm.

She was pretty much ignored throughout her childhood by her beauty page and obsessed mother. Oh, no. Her mother didn't put her. her in beauty pageants. She herself was in beauty pageant. So it wasn't like a honey-booboo child? It was not a honey-bobo-child. It was not a Sinda Hinda child.

Oh, no. She could have benefited. She could have. She could have had a TLC special with some cheese puffs. She could abuse that. But yeah, she just didn't pay attention to her. She was psychologically and sexually abused. And at one point, throughout her childhood, her stepfather sexually abused her,

molested her. And at 11 years old, she finally got the courage to tell her mother. And her mom didn't do that fuck. the stepfather was like, I didn't do that. And so the mother decided to choose the stepfather and kicked her out of the house at 12. Where do you go? So your 11-year-old comes up to you and is like, yeah, the dude you married has been sexually assaulting me for years.

And you're like, yeah, I think you should just leave. Like, you little 12-year-old? I'm in seventh grade. So she ended up on the streets of Seattle at 12 years old. And she started dealing and doing cocaine pretty young and being just a super violent human. That's all she knew. I was doing cocaine at like 12? Pretty much.

Fah! She went through a ton of awful, violent relationships with dudes. And she was, she was tiny at like 105 pounds. Yeah, because she was doing fucking Coke all the time. But she was apparently, like, pure muscle. Really?

Like, everyone who knew her said she was fucking pure muscle. Or she just didn't cook rage all the time. Probably. It's probably a little mixture of it. She was just lifting cars everywhere. She was raging. And several people close to her at different times in her life, including ex-boyfriends, said she could easily beat the shit out of a 250-pound person.

Wow, good for her. Yeah. I mean. Well, like, now. But she did end up having a son at 16 years old while living out on the streets. And by her late 20s, she ended up having two more children, two daughters. Oh, wow. And by three different dudes.

Yikes. So she obviously couldn't take care of them because, like, why are you having kids while living on the streets and doing copious amounts of cocaine? I don't know. But so when the young. youngest was like 10 years old, she just sent them away to live with their grandparents. Her mom. You know, the really good grandparents that raped her, well, her stepdad.

You know, give them a proper home. A plus childhood. So in 1997, she gotten some deep shit for selling cocaine to an undercover agent. Oh, no. So this was at around 37 years old. Oh, no, girl. So after this bus, she was ordered to take a drug course, and she wasn't going to do any of that. And she was like, let me tell you, I know a lot about drugs.

You know what? I'm not going to do that. She's like, I could teach this course. Exactly. So after bailing on her kids, she left Seattle for New Mexico. And she became like a huge bar rat and just a piece of shit by this point. So she got busted for a DUI and was sentenced to 30 days in jail with six months probation and 50 hours community service almost immediately upon arriving at truth or consequences New Mexico. Okay. That's the actual name of the town. Truth or Consequences New Mexico. That's crafty.

Right. I guess it was named after like a radio show. What the fuck? Yeah, that like said if a town named themselves after their radio show, they would broadcast there or something. And they were like, yeah. Like sounds like a good idea. But then it becomes very ominous when a serial killer starts doing his thing there. So she performed her community service at the state park where one David Parker Ray worked. Oh, and he was like, look at that cute little Sinda Hennon.

This is where she met him. And they became regulars at the Blue Water Saloon, which is a place where a lot of, you know, a bar where lots of locals and parks employees hung out regularly. Sounds like a lifetime movie. And they hit it right off. Because one of the biggest things they shared was a love of Satanism. Oh, she liked that too. It's a real love story.

Yeah. It's a real love story. This is the original notebook. Is it? Did they just like re-script the whole? They tweaked it a bit. Yeah. But it's basically the same.

So by January 1999, wait, they're like, Cindy Hindi doesn't work for the female role. We're going to change her to Allie. You know, I had no idea what that girl's name was. I was going to say, instead of Cindy Hindi, it's, bleh, but I didn't know her name. It's Allie. I saw that movie once.

I think it's Allie. I have no idea. I hate that movie. I'm pretty sure it's Noah and Allie. I think The Notebook is a terrible movie. I'm not a huge fan either. I don't hate it as much as you do, But I saw it once and that was it.

In high school, I used to watch it if a boy broke up with me. And then I was like, what am I doing dating boys? What am I doing dating boys? Love it. So by January 1999, Cindy moved into David's House of Hors. Good. They were only together for eight months when this thing is all said and done. Damn, that's not a lot of time.

But they, the love story remains. Okay. So Cindy Hindi and David Parker Ray are living together in this house. David Parker Ray did his thing, which we're going to get into, for what authorities believe could be like 40 years. Wait, how old was he? He was like 67, I want to say. So he started when he was, I don't math. A teenager.

And they believe in that time he may have kidnapped, tortured, and murdered somewhere between 40 and 60 women. What the fuck? So he's like prolific. Now, why do they feel so sure about this? Because David Parker Ray kept detailed, meticulous diaries all through adulthood. He started that shit when he was young to escape his household and his family, and he continued it. Whoa. Now, he didn't just keep diaries of like, today I had Eggs Benedict and a very weak cup of coffee.

Your girl loves an Eggs, Benny. I had no idea. I don't love a weak coffee. No, I hate weak coffee. But his diaries were records of his crimes that included dates, times, locations of where the kidnapped happened. So like a fucking confession. And literally the victims with detailed descriptions of their stay in his house of horrors

and the torture he inflicted upon them. Oh, so they stayed in his house? Oh, yes. So she did know. She had no way out there. Oh, yeah. Trust me. Ew.

I don't want to do this. You're here. You're here. You're with me. It's happening. Like when you show up to school because you think that you have like a cool assembly and then you get there and it's like, I don't want to be a part of this. About like not smoking weed and you're just like, why are we here? This is your assembly about not smoking weed.

I feel like, this is your assembly about not torturing you fellow human beings. And I'm like, okay, I'm not going to. Well, you would not just describe in detail what he did to these women and how he took them and everything. He would write about whether they were turned loose after he tortured them or whether or whether he was killed them, but he never wrote where he put the bodies. Wait, so he would turn people loose? Some people he let go. A lot? And you'll find out why more of them didn't come forward or, or even know in sometimes what happened. They didn't know what a, oh God, start talking. It's going to get intense. He never wrote where he put the bodies. Now, this guy, he was, he was smart. I mean,

he was, he was a mechanic. He put together a lot. He could, he could build things like, you know, and he could engineer things very well. And he was just smart about what he, is doing, unfortunately. And no bodies have ever been found in this case. Ever? But it's because, one, he never wrote down where he put the bodies. And two, he lived next to a large expanse of desert, which we'll get into it a little bit, and one of the largest man-made lakes in the United States.

So he had. Did they check the desert in the lake, though? Many places to put those bodies. Well, they did, but you can only, you can only check so much of it. Yeah, it's like you can't get every square inch of the desert. So he was also, as we'll get a little. to a little bit. He was also, he was a drifter for a while. He didn't stay in one place for a long period of time. So let's just, uh, let's set a scene. Okay. On March 22nd, 1999, at 3.22 p.m., a 911

operator in Sierra County, New Mexico received a kind of weird call. It came from a residence in the area, but the caller wasn't responding when she answered the phone. All she could make out was what what was clearly like a scuffle and a fight happening, and the phone was clearly off the hook. The caller eventually hung up, but the operator was like, all right, something was weird. So she called the number back. A woman answered, and she was annoyed, out of breath.

It was clearly something was going on, and she told the dispatcher that she had accidentally phone 911, and that everything was just fine. And then it wasn't. Hung up really quick. So the dispatcher had her instincts firing at fucking maximum velocity that day, she was like, nope. So she called the local police.

She reported the situation, and she requested a welfare check at this address. So it was deputy David Olston that was sent out to 513 Bass Road. It's located in Elephant Butte, New Mexico. Elephant Booty, New Mexico. I want to live there. No, I don't. Now, truth or consequences, or T or C, is what the locals call it. It's tiny, very tiny.

It consists of mostly trailers with dirt road. Are we moving? Yes. To truth or consequences? Yes. We're just leaving. We're just going to like take off. Yeah, we're just going to up and go.

Yeah, we're just going to up and go. So. Let's do our first live show there from truth or consequences in a trailer. Hey guys. We have Jesseret with us. No, we don't. We do not. No, thank you.

So it sits along the vast Chichuan, Chichuan, Chichuan. Chichuan Desert. Chichichia. Chichia. Chichia. Want to sponsor us? Imagine. That'd be awesome.

So that desert is the third largest desert of the Western Hemisphere and the second largest in North America. Okay. Just after the Great Basin Desert. Geography. It offers the more depraved among us a lot of caves and just wide expanse of nothingness to hide terrible things. Freaking great. So that's good. So side note, elephant bootie is tiny with a population of like maybe a thousand people.

or so. And it's supposed to just be like a chill place that people go to like retire. All right. What happened? Who answered the door at the welfare check? I don't care about geography. I dropped out of college. I'm sitting. I'm setting a scene. It's very close to Elephant Butte Lake, which is that big lake I was telling you about. Yours. And if you don't run into David Parker Ray, it's a great place to retire, like I was saying. All right, cool. It also sits next to Elephant Butte State Park, which is the largest state park in New Mexico. Where Dave worked. That also happens to be, where David Parker Ray was gamefully employed as a state park ranger and a mechanic. Probably wouldn't go there, but there's dead bodies.

Yeah. Oh, for sure. So, uh, who answered? We're going. We're not there yet. Is that at the end? No, it's coming. So, while, while this deputy Olston is on his way, you're rude, to the residents, okay.

Two state park employees, Chris DeGassey and Michael Landford, hear that some stuff is going down on the police radio that they had in the office. They just set off to offer Deputy Olson, assistant. Oh, wow. Together. So they were, they knew he was doing the welfare. They're like, have no fear. Park Rangers are here.

When they got near the address, they noticed that there was a car pulled over to the side of the road. There was a woman standing there and she was waving down their vehicle. And when she came over and started to speak with them, she was upset. She was flustered. And she said she had just seen a naked woman covered in blood with a chain around her neck running down the road. What the fuck?

Yes. They had this woman that was telling them this, stay where she was. And since more police were coming, they just left her there and were like, you stay here, police are coming. We're going to go to where this is because it might be connected. Spooky. So they ended up being the first to arrive at 513 Bass Road that day before Deputy Olson. Now, this house was exactly what you're picturing in your brain right now. Yeah.

Like, guaranteed. It was sitting behind a metal chain link fence with a beware of dog sign on it. Oh, no. Which, um, no, nobody technically hurt. I'm not going to mention a dog being hurt or anything like that, but later, probably in episode two, there's some fucked up shit with a dog. No. Just warning.

So, I didn't sign up for this. I know. Nobody did. And right in front of the fence was a wooden sign like the kind you would see marking in state parks. And it said, David P. Ray. 13 Bass Road. The house itself was gross, dirty, ramshackle, fucking single-story place with a flat metal roof. Just like a scary-ass-chainsaw Massacre House. Like house hunters.

100%. I'm looking for this. So, I'm looking for this. My budget is $6. My budget is this old shoe. Around it was just like shit. There were just piles of garbage, remnants of semi-truck trailers. boat, like old-ass boats, sheds were like decrepit everywhere. Like, Davey Ray, clean up your shit. Like, David needed to get it together. But when Dagassie and Lanford came, like, they walked up to the house, they knocked

on the door, no one appeared to be home. While they were waiting for the police to show, something else came through. No. The scanner. 911 received another call that a naked, bloody woman with a chain around of her neck was running down another road in the area. Why didn't she, like, knock on anyone's door? Well, she was trying, but most of the doors she knocked on, no one was home.

And then she was trying to get into people's cars as they passed. Like, trying to flag people down. But people were, like, accelerating. Can you fucking imagine a naked, bloody woman trying to get in your car? Well, that's, it's like, you got to look out for number one. That's like a, like, do you stop? No. I'm sorry.

You don't help people. I'm sorry. That, no. Yeah, because you don't know. Girl. Like, maybe she's just trying to. I'm going to report it. For sure.

My God, that's like, The fucking lady I drove by. Exactly. You're going to report that shit, like, right away? Yeah. But you're not coming in my car, girl. I don't know what you're bringing. I don't know what's following you.

No. That reminds me of the movie it follows. And I feel really bad. Yeah. So Deputy Olston, they're listening to this 911 and they're like, what the hell's going on right now? Yeah. Why is this happening?

I'm on the edge of my motherfucking seat. So Deputy Olston finally arrives at the residence. DeGassie and Landford told him that no one seemed to be home. And Elston was like, what the fuck? someone just called 911 from inside of this residence. Like, was it the naked bunny woman? Well. Oh, was the send a hinda?

Let's see. Call me. So, send a hidden. So Sierra County sheriffs arrived on the scene now. And the four of them were like, let's just search the perimeter. So they searched the perimeter of the home. And then they entered because they were able to be just to make sure no one was in there. Like a needed assistance.

That was their like probable cause to get in there. They didn't have a warrant yet so they couldn't do a full search. Oh, shit. But no one was in there. They did find some interesting stuff. Tell me. Every window was covered in a heavy dark shade that kept all the light and visibility out of the house. Sounds like my room.

The living room contained was like dirty, dark, just shit on the floor, like just awful, like hoarder style grossness. Sounds like my room before I moved out. Exactly. Hopefully the comparison stops here. Okay. The living room contained a bed in the corner of the room, a weird, out of the room. a weird out-of-place bed. Okay.

There was broken glass around it and a broken lamp near it as well. Yep, no, don't have that. More horrific was the fact that the mattress was completely stained in blood, and there was a bloody ice pick laying on the floor next to the bed. What's an ice pick again? It's what they used, and I know what you did last summer. Right, we talked about this. And it's what they used, like, when Barry's trying to scare Max,

why I remember all these names, and he like, aren't. Yep, got you. So now, in each of the four corners of the bed, there were shackles and padlocks arranged in a way that would keep someone spread eagle if they were attached to them. Above this bed was a pulley kind of system where chains and hooks were dangling from, and against the wall near it was a human-sized box that resembled to make shit coffin. When they opened this box, there were restraints and shackles in it, clearly to hold someone in there.

That was just the six flags thing. for the event. Like, they were just ahead of this. Right. Yeah. I get it. They were just giving them free tickets as all. They were.

They were just giving them season passes. To six flags. And $300, okay? If nobody else won. If they were the only winner. I mean, probably shouldn't compare people's fucking struggles in this house to that, but comedic relief has to happen somewhere. You know what?

Gallows humor is necessary here. Mm-hmm. Now, obviously a scuffle of some kind happened here, but like what the fuck was his bed and all the shit around it was what they were thinking. I couldn't be a police officer because I'd be like, you know what, um, bye. Like, I retire. Yeah. So, day one. Another look around the room revealed a pegboard on the wall, like a cork board. Okay. But like, yeah, where you put like your fun pictures in a dorm room, your bulletins. Or what was there? On it were a bunch of hanging torture devices. Most appeared to be like DIY jobs, like jagged scrap metal shit. You know, like things you find

on Pinterest. You know. And when I said DIY jobs, I shimmied. She did. I'm not sure why. I think I'm just... DIY jobs. I'm having a moment right now. I don't know. I'm uncomfortable. So going further into the home, in one of the bedrooms,

there were two giant chains hanging from the ceiling with more hooks, restraints, and chains around them. The walls were covered in photos of hardcore disturbing pornography, mixed with crude drawings of women being tortured. There was also a bed and a dresser. The top of the dresser was covered in a myriad of spooky disturbing. shit, including pliers, scissors, clips, clamps, harnesses, muzzles, and various sex toys in all shapes and sizes.

Is that that photo you posted? Nope. Oh, that was another thing. So, now BDSM is fine. If two or more consenting adults want to get freaky, then, like, by all means. Live your spooky life. Live your kinky life. But this was, like, not just a kinky household.

This was sinister as fuck, and you will find out why. Well, if there's no blood, it's like one thing, but if there's blood, you're like, well, again, two consenting adults do what you want, by all means. Like, have your BDSM fun. I support you. Sure. But this was not that. So I don't want this to be confused with people who enjoy BDSM.

Right, right, right. Now, how do I know that this was not just BDSM fun? Because murder. Well, as this is being discovered, another 911 call comes in. From a woman who said, quote, I'm calling for a young lady that just ran into my house. She says she's just been raped. She's got a chain on her. Send someone right away.

This lady is naked. She says they've been holding her for three days. Oh my God. This poor girl. Now, Sierra County. That we wouldn't let into our car. Right? I'm sorry, girl.

So Sierra County Deputy Peter Bodowitz, I think it was, responded to this 911 call, because now they're having to send people everywhere because it's like naked women. that's just like all kinds of craziness. And when he arrived... Good for this girl, though, like breaking out. However she did. Wait to hear how she did. It's amazing. This girl was...

The way she maintained her brain here is unbelievable. And so this guy responded to this call. He went to the residence that they called from to say she was there. Uh-huh. And he said there was an elderly man waving him to the residence. He was like an old couple? Yes. He said his name was Donald and that this random naked woman with a chain on her neck had literally

barged into their home in a blind panic. Oh, my God. and was begging them to help her. His wife, Darlene, was the one who immediately called on 911, and he said she was in there helping the woman and trying to calm her down. As he was telling the officer this, the woman ran out the front door towards the officer wearing a pink robe that they had draped around her because they're just like fucking good people, man.

And the officer could see she was cut, bruised, beaten, blood all over her. Oh, my God. She also had a metal collar around her neck that was closed with a, padlock. There was a chain attached to this that was somewhere around five feet long. Holy shit. When she ran out of the house, she literally screamed to the officer, please don't let them get me. Oh my God, this poor girl. Now this woman was 22-year-old Cynthia Vihil. Oh. She ended up being the last known survivor of David Parker Ray and his girlfriend, 39-year-old Sindhi. She was kidnapped by the pair days earlier and said they chained her up in their

home. She said she was repeatedly raped and viciously tortured throughout the experience. Oh, no. At the time, she didn't know the address of where she was held, but she had seen their faces and knew that the people holding her went by Dave and Cindy. Oh. She also said to the police officer, she pointed to him and said he's one of you because he was a park ranger and their uniforms looked a lot like police and he pretended to be a cop to kidnap her. Oh, no fucking way. So she thought he was one of them. I'm going to get into like some more details about her abduction in a minute. It's intense. So now another parks ranger named Byron Wilson was getting ready to leave for the day at this time. And he's like, now I can't fucking go. He heard commotion on the scanner about

like the naked woman and the nightmare at Bass Street. And he knew that address was a parks employees home. So he decided to try and compass him and help us as well. Because apparently the state parks employees are like, dun-da-da-da. Yeah. And as he drove, there. He passed a cream-colored, like, motorhome RV with two people inside. And he was like, oh, I know that driver. It was 59-year-old co-worker David Parker Ray and his girlfriend sent in it. So he just, like, passed by them. They, like, waved to each other. And he went to the residence. And he noticed that it was David Parker's property. And he was like, oh, shit, I just passed him. They're probably fleeing. So he told the police, and they race to the area where he just came from to

try to approach them from all sides and like catch up with them. It ended up being Wilson that found them again, the same guy that had passed by them. Oh, shit. Yeah, because he joined the police. He was like, oh, shit, I just saw them. They thought, I think they thought they were going to try to escape through the desert. Yeah. But they ended up just like going through town, like idiots.

Well, their name is fucking Cindy. Cindy and Dave Array. So it was Wilson, the park ranger, who got them to pull over. And a bunch of other police surrounded them as well. and he was ordered to step out of the vehicle, like, on the loudspeaker and all that. And he, David Parker Ray yelled back, this isn't necessary. I'd be like, uh, have you seen your house, bro? I've seen your collection of dildos.

This is very necessary. Sir, you've got a real problem on your hands. Pretty necessary, David. He finally got out. It was immediately arrested. Cindy got out as well, but she was bleeding. She had a huge gash above her left ear and was immediately arrested. as well. She was taken to a hospital. David was taken to Richard R. Cooper boat safety training center

that was located in the state park. Yeah. Because it was closer and apparently had better resources than the local police department, which like, that's alarming. It's troubling. But whatever. Now, this was a huge case for this place. Yeah. They had no idea how to handle. I mean, who knows how to handle this, really. Right. So they called on the New Mexico State Police for assistance. The, um, A state police criminal investigator, Wesley LeQuester, arrived at around 6 p.m. to the place where they were holding him. He immediately told everyone, do not talk to him. The first person we need to hear from is Cynthia V. Hill, the girl, the woman. So Cynthia was at the hospital this whole time, obviously.

They took, as soon as they got her, they brought her right to the hospital. The entire time she had been there since like 4 p.m., she just repeated over and over, I'm safe. here to herself over and over again. So she was just sitting there going, I'm safe here. Oh, that made me like, want to cry. She hadn't eaten for days. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That really actually made me want to cry. I know, right? Oh, you're safe, girl. Like, you're safe. Oh, I actually just got an overwhelming sense of cry. She's safe. And she's a badass. I mean, this woman, a lot of emotions. It's, she's, I have no idea how her brain functioned on such a high level. Do they give her some food? So she hadn't eaten for days, so they did feed her, but she immediately threw it up.

Because not eating for days. Yeah, fucks you up. She was covered from head to toe and cuts and bruises. She had a lot of external injuries, like burns, puncture wounds, cuts, bruising, but none of them were fatal. Okay, good. The collar was actually the thing that was causing her the most distress. And the hospital had to have maintenance worker cut it off of her with bolt cutters.

Well, yeah, because she, I mean, duh. It was literally, like, padlocked onto her. And when it came off, she launched it a, across the room, like immediately. Like, it came off and she threw it across the room. Because it's like almost like a significance of like, 100%. You're not a prisoner anymore. Well, and when it came off, they said she like immediately calmed.

Like as soon as that thing came off of her. Yeah. And, um, so. I just had to take a deep breath. So this is where shit is crazy. So if you, this blew my mind. If you remember, Cindy Hindi came out of that RV with a gashing head wound. Oh my God.

Are they at the same fucking hospital? And they brought her the hospital. Shut the fuck up. This is a movie. Well, Cindy was brought to the same hospital for treatment. And they escorted Cindy Hindi right past Cynthia in the hospital. And did she start screaming? Cynthia saw her and freaked out.

She started screaming, that's her. Don't let her in. She's here for me, like screaming. Oh my God. Can you fucking imagine you get away from these people? Yeah. The fucking bitch that let this happen is right there. He's walking right by you.

Oh, my God. So Cindy, when she was walked past. Cynthia, Cindy's, Cindy Hindi, Cindy Hindi informed the doctors and nurses that she'd been hit in the head with a lamp. And she was treated and released back into police custody. Okay. Before they got her out, she pointed at Cynthia and said, that girl should be checked because the bitch is on heroin.

She was then brought to where David was at the training center. Did they inject heroin into her? No. Okay, good. This is when Cynthia was interviewed by the police, because the police got there, and remember the police investigator was like, We need to go talk to him. We need to go talk to Cynthia.

Why did she say she was on heroin? Is that going to make sense? Yeah, it is. So they wanted Cynthia to be able to talk as soon as possible for, like, the most accuracy, because obviously it's better when you get it fresh. She, so she admitted to the police that she had lost her mother at a young age. She was very close to her mother. She turned to drugs as a way to cope.

She'd become estranged from most of her family and was working as a sex worker to get by. She admitted that specifically she was a heroin user and had used it two days before. her abduction. Oh, no. So she admitted that. Now, this will come back as to why Cindy Hendy yelled that to like, you know, it'll come back later. You'll hear it. Okay. Now we're going to go back to her abduction. I'm going to tell you about it. This is what she told the police. On March 20th, somewhere between 10 and 11 a.m., she had been walking to a restaurant in Albuquerque. She was passing through a parking lot and she ran into someone who she was like kind of familiar with. This guy pointed to a motorhome parked nearby and said like that dude in there would

like to hire you for your services for the evening. So she was like, uh, I don't have money, I need money. And she went over to the motorhome. She said the man behind the wheel was older, tan, and had very wrinkly skin from like sun-baked skin, slicked back. Gross. Like light hair and a bushy mustache. The exact description.

of David Parker Ray. Oh, no. They discussed Price. He introduced himself as Dave, and she said he was normal, very nice. Everything was fine. Once they left the parking lot, he showed her a badge and said he was an undercover cop, and she was under arrest for solicitation. So when he did this, Cindy Hindi appeared from behind a curtain, behind her, and tried to

handcuff her, but she fought because she was like, you guys are things. You're not a fucking cop. So she started fighting. Well, he had to pull the motorhome over, and David got one handcuffed on her wrist and then dragged her into the back of the RV. Oh, God. He tried to handcuff her to a pipe that was fitted in the back of the RV, but she kept fucking fighting. So Cindy busted out a cattle prod and threatened her with it. So he chained her to the pipe and kept driving with Cindy now in the passenger seat.

A cattle prod? Yes, a cattle prod. And while Cynthia was not going down just yet, she kept messing with her, restraints, the handcuffs, and she noticed that the screws that were holding the pipe to the floor were loosening as she was fucking with them. So she started slowly turning each of them until she took them all out. Oh my God. She was able to slip off the pipe. But right as she did that, the motorhome stopped at a traffic light. She didn't know that was going to happen. She like fell into a wall and made a sound. The noise got Cindy up out of her seat and she went by there and used the cattle prod to

to make her compliant. They then stripped her naked, duct taped her mouth, and chained her to another part of the motorhome. Oh, God, no. She said the drive was very long. And when they stopped once for gas, Cindy used a gun and warned her that if she screamed, they'd just kill her. So when they finally got to raise home, it ended up being 150 miles from where they abducted her. Oh, my God. So she was back there naked with duct tape over her mouth and chained to something for 150 miles.

They pulled the RV way, like right. up to the house so that she couldn't get a look at what was around. They had shackled her ankles and they forced her into the house really quickly. She was then led down a hallway to a living room with brown. She said with brown striped wallpaper. Gross. She said a bed was tucked in the corner among trash and other gross fucking hills have eyes type shit.

This is when the metal collar was put around her neck. So right away. I'm so stressed out right now. The end of the five foot chain that was attached to that was chained to a hook on the wall over the bed. She was then forced down on the bed and was chained to the four corners, like spread eagle. They then blindfolded and gagged her. She suddenly heard a tape recorder turn on. What? So I'm going to read some of this. Please don't. It's really bad. It's really bad. I'm only going to read some of it. I'm going to leave the rest. If you want to find it, you can find it. There's

transcripts everywhere. The actual audio, I don't think is out there, but... No, thanks. So they played this for their victims, like, right as they got them there? Yes. This is, this was what every victim was played when they were, as soon as they got there. Like, I'm sorry, you're not running a fucking carnival. It starts out. No, this is, this is like horror movie shit. No, it literally is. This is a horror movie. This is jigsaw. So it says, hello there, bitch. Are you comfortable right now? I doubt it. Rists and ankles chained, gagged, probably blindfolded. You're disoriented and scared too, I would imagine. Perfectly normal under the circumstances. For a little while, at least, you need to get your shit together and listen to this tape.

It is very relevant to your situation. I'm going to tell you in detail why you have been kidnapped, what's going to happen to you, and how long you'll be here. I don't know the details of your capture because this tape is being created July 23, 1993. This was 1999. So he had already been doing this for that long. And she's like, oh, great. As a general advisory tape for future female captives. The information I'm going to give you is based on my experience dealing with captives over a period of several years. Now, you are obviously here against your will.

Totally helpless. Don't know where you're at. Don't know what's going to happen to you. You're very scared or very pissed off. I'm sure that you've already tried to get your wrists and ankles loose and no, you can't. Now you're just waiting to see what's going to happen next. You probably think you're going to be raped and you're very. fucking sure right about that. Our primary interest is what you've got between your legs.

Ew! You'll be raped thoroughly and repeatedly. That's pretty rough. I'm not going to read it. You can find that if you want to. Because basically you've been snatched and brought here for us to train and use as a sex slave. Sound kind of far out? Well, I suppose it is to the uninitiated, but we do it all the time. It's going to take a lot of adjustment on your part and you're not going to like it one fucking bit. But I don't give a big fucking rat's ass about that. It's not like you're going to have any choice in the matter. You've been taken by force and you're going to be kept and used by forced. What this amounts to is that you're going to be kept naked and chained up like an animal to be used and abused anytime we want any way that we want. Okay, can we stop now?

And you might as well be getting used to it because you're going to be kept here until such time as we get fucking tired of you. Okay. And we will eventually in a month or two, maybe three. It's no big you. No, it is. My lady friend and I have been keeping sex slaves for years. We both have kinky hangups involving rape, dungeon games, etc. We found it extremely convenient to keep one or two female captives available constantly to satisfy our particular needs. I'm not going to go. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's a wrap. That's a wrap. If you want to read it yourself, go ahead. Bye. That's a fucking trip. Yeah. I will, I'm going to circle back. to this transcript at one point.

No, that's okay. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but I am going to read another small part of it when it becomes relevant. I'm emotional. Basically, these women, that's what she heard. She heard a lot more than that.

That was a very small snippet of me. How long was it, do you know? It's a real long. Ash is looking at it right now. What the fuck? It was like two sides. So close it. I don't want the words up.

Oh, man. Close it. And that was not. Close it. That was not. Not the bad stuff. You have no idea what comes after that. No, I don't, I'm never gonna.

That was not the bad stuff. I'm gonna barf. Yeah. So, and Cynthia said, quote, the way he talked, I didn't feel like this was his first time. It was like he knew what he was doing. He told me I was never going to see my family again. He told me he would kill me like the others.

So her, her deal was fucking horrific. She was led into a room at one point with whips and other torture equipment, mixed in with like legitimate medical equipment, like that I use in autopsies. Like scalples and shit? And like forceps, all that kind of stuff. She was hung by chains that were attached to the ceiling and was sexually assaulted and tortured while hanging in the chains.

They used an old motor that was attached to her by clamps and cables and used it to administer electric shocks to her for extended periods of time. It was so bad that she would pass out several times as a result. What the fuck? She even said that when they were not actively sexually assaulting and torturing her, they would chain her to the bed by all four limbs and her neck while they just sat next to her on the couch and watched TV, like casually. Like when they would get breaks where they didn't feel like sexually assaulting her or torturing her, they would just watch TV with her chained up next to them.

What? Throughout the whole thing. How does that happen in your life? Right. Throughout the whole thing, David Parker Ray took multiple photographs of the torture while it was happening. he also showed her photos of other women he had done this to. She woke up on the morning of March 22nd, the third day she was there, and saw David Parker Ray wearing a uniform she thought was a police officer's uniform.

Obviously it was a park ranger uniform. Before he left for work, he told Cynthia that he had a surprise for her, his toy box. This had been discussed vaguely a bunch of other times around Cynthia, but she had no idea what it was. But she had heard the word toy box. So before he left, Ray thought, Cynthia had to be too weak and exhausted to try anything, so he removed the chains from her legs and arms, but left the collar that was attached to the wall.

Yeah. The whole time she was alone with Cindy for the whole day. Cindy just sat around and watched TV mostly because she's a big fucking low fast. And at one point, around 3 p.m. that day, the phone rang and Cindy answered it. She placed the keys to Cynthia's restraints down on the coffee table. Hmm, moron. Cindy was just talking on the phone, and she just, like, walked into the... the other room while chatting.

Cynthia took this moment to stretch her leg out to the table, and once she got it, she hooked her foot around it and pulled the whole table towards her. She grabbed the keys, and instead of immediately unlocking her restraint, like anybody else would, she took a second to think, and she was like, Cindy could walk into this fucking room at any second. And I need to be smart about this if I'm going to make this work. Oh, my God. So Cynthia slowly started pushing the table back to where.

it originally was, because she was like, if Cindy walks back in, she's going to see that table moved if I don't move it back. And if she doesn't see it moved, then she might not notice that she put those keys there. And nothing will be a mess, right? Well, as her leg was outstretched to push the table back, Cindy suddenly walked back into the room. No. She saw her.

She was fucking pissed. She drops the phone and lunges at Cynthia. So she tried to get the keys from her hand, but she couldn't because Cynthia was like, No way. So she grabbed a nearby lamp and hit Cynthia in the head with it. Oh, good. No. Oh, no. No. Bad. Fuck. Cynthia and Cindy. Cindy Hindi hit Cynthia in the head with the lamp. Bad. The lamp shattered into pieces, but Cynthia was so hopped up on adrenaline at the prospect of escaping that she didn't even feel it, she said. Good. So she got a lamp

shattered over her head and she kept fighting. Like that kills somebody. Oh yeah. While they wrestled, Cynthia grabbed the phone that had dropped on the floor and dialed 911. Oh my God. This was the call that was originally answered where they heard all the scuffle. When Cindy went to end the call, Cynthia grabbed an ice pick that was just casually laying on the fucking floor. I was going to say she had lots of tools. And slashed her on the back of the head with it. She was now Cindy Hindi is dazed and bleeding immediately.

So Cynthia took that opportunity to quickly unlock her chain and run out of the fucking house. Holy shit. She had no idea where she was. She was 150 miles from where she was taken. She hadn't seen during the drive where she went. Right. So she literally has no idea where she's going. She finally seized Donald and Darlene's mobile home, and she ran into the door and begged Darlene not to let them get her.

Darlene said, the woman who helped her, she said, quote, her wrists looked like hamburger meat. She had beautiful long brown hair and it was all matted with blood. She was dirty all over. Her breasts were black and blue, and there were more bruises all over her arms and legs. Donald heard the commotion and ran out of the bedroom to see this whole thing. When she saw Donald, Cynthia begged him to take the collar off her neck. Like immediately was like, please get this off my neck. But he said he wanted, he really wanted to.

But he didn't know how. But he said he felt it was also something the police should probably do because he was like, something happened here. I don't want to tamper with what's going on. Yeah. He was like, I really want to take this off of you. I just, I don't think I can. So he was the one who grabbed the pink bathroom to cover her with.

a nice man. While Darlene called 911, and while they waited for the police to come, Cynthia hid shivering under the kitchen table. Oh my God. That's how scared she was. Now, this whole interview where Cynthia told this whole thing was done by the criminal investigator Wesley LeQuester. After he spoke with her and heard all this, he went back to where David Parker Ray and Cindy Hindi were being held in separate rooms at the like boat safety training center. I hope they hurt them so badly. They both claimed that they did kidnap Cynthia, but they claimed it was for the purpose of aiding her and kicking her heroin addiction. Oh yeah, you know, by like chaining her to a bed and beating the fuck out of her. Well, they just were trying to get her through the super rough withdrawal period,

obviously. Ash, like, stop judging, okay? Stop judging. I hate when people do horrible shit and they're like, well, no one bought this because it's the dumbest story ever. Like, it doesn't make any sense. And she's, like, covered in horrible bruises. Yeah, it literally did. And one walk into that house. Yeah. So both of them were charged with one count of kidnapping, one count of assault, one count of criminal sexual penetration, and two counts of conspiracy.

After being charged, they were transported to the Sierra County Criminal Detention Center, and that's when they stopped cooperating. They stopped talking. March 23rd at 7.30 p.m., the search warrant for David Parker raised property was officially approved. Where do you think that they, like, put all the shit? that they find in people's houses. Like, how do they get rid of it? Well, they don't get rid of it. It goes in an evidence lock. Oh yeah, that was a really dumb question. It was, but I love you.

Thank you. I'm just like really like not okay. Well, this is a lot. This is a lot. Yeah. So this was a like a double wide trailer basically. It was disgusting and cluttered with trash and gross shit. It had a master bedroom, a smaller bedroom, a kitchen, a living room and a bathroom. The clothing that Cynthia was wearing the day she was kidnapped was found in the bedroom, along with a ton of other things. There were actually 401 items that did not belong to David or Cindy. Lots of women's jewelry, among other items like women's clothing and women's accessories. 401 items.

Now, this house sounds like a fucking nightmare, right? Mm-hmm. You have not heard the worst of it, my friend. What's the toy box? Beside the house was a large 25-foot white semi-truck trailer. A huge steel dent bolt was locked on the door. Uh-huh. A locksmith was brought in to unlock it, and what they found in there,

is one of the walls was what I posted a photo of on our Instagram. And is that the toy box? Yes, that's just one corner of the toy box. This was David Parker Ray's toy box. When you walked in, signs were on the wall that said Satan's den and the bondage room, for good reason. The main feature of this toy box was a DIY gynaecologist chair. Oh, my God. It was black and in the center of the trailer.

It had stirrups, cables with electrodes, and straps all over it. What the fuck? It was on a small track on the floor that allowed someone to slide the chair backwards and forwards. No. On the ceiling above the chair was a large mirror, so the victim was able to see what was happening to them. What? No. Shit's going to get very, uh, warning. What?

Warning everybody. It's real, real, real, real right now. So just like, like, hang on. Hang on. Hold on to your butts. Every square inch of the walls, ceilings, and shelving in this trailer were covered in various methods of torture. There were leg spreaders, a branding iron, leather belts, paddles, clamps, sandpaper, saw blades, needles, suction cups, forps, whips, and speculums.

What's a speculum? It's what they use during your pap smear. I wish you could see Ash's face right. Where do you? I feel like I should take a phone. No, no. There were several syringes and bottles of ammonia and chloroform. The place was fucking chock full of sex toys.

And they weren't just like run-of-the-mill sex toys. They were made from wood, metal, and plastic. Perhaps even most disturbingly. Get ready. No, no, no, no. A 15-inch. Motorized dildo was found. It was attached to a giant motor with some kind of switch that had three levels.

Buzzer, light, and probe. I'm not laughing at this. I'm laughing at his face. 15 inches. Yep. Motorized. Yep. Ropes, pulleys, handcuffs, and chains hung everywhere.

In one corner, there was a wooden contraption that seemed to be hand. handmade, and it was used to forcibly bend a victim over to rape them. I feel, no, I'm not kidding you, I feel nauseous. It was rough. There were medical books on anatomy and porn magazines everywhere. Why did you pick this? There was also lipstick, mouthwash, perfume, perfume, shampoo, shampoo, and baby lotions.

Ew. A cork board had photos of other females being tortured. and drawings of fantasies, as done by David Parker Ray as well, scattered along the walls were also medical photos of anatomy and detailed diagrams of methods of torture. One of the large metal drawers pulled out to reveal a slab, not unlike those found in the morgue, one of the most disturbing pieces of paper in the toy box

was a list of instructions that was found on a wall that detailed how to use a mechanized tool to inflict maximum damage to a victim's breasts. When you, so what the instructions said. No, I don't want to know. This is what it said on this thing that was used to hold you to destroy breasts. It said, quote, this process is very painful and due to the constant motion,

the body will not adjust to the pain. During the operation, the subject will remain in extremely painful duress. So that's fucked. A sign above these said the lure of Satanism, And he also had placed two fake skulls nearby with candles, like shit you would find in like a 16-year-old emo kids room. Like, fuck you guy. Hung up on one wall was a long black robe with a red cape

and a Barbie doll wrapped in chains. There was also a clipboard with a list of names. And alongside it was another paper that contained some words of encouragement, not for the victims, but for David himself. It was kind of like an affirmation of sorts. And it's not, I know what you're thinking. It's not like the ones that like your life coach or your yoga teacher gives you. It's not kind of the same.

It read, quote, remember, a woman will do or say anything to get loose. They will kick, scratch, offer money, bite, yell, beg, scream, run, offer sex, threaten, lie, wait for opportunity. Standard excuses are sob stories, menstruating, pregnant, venereal disease, AIDS, sick, kids with babysitter, have to work, a sick baby, a sick parent, claustophobia, missed by husband or friend, bad heart, can't miss school. Don't let her get to you. If she is worth taking, she is worth keeping. And she must be subjected to hypnosis before the woman can be safely release.

Never trust a chained captive. So he, one of the things he says in the audio tape that he plays for these women is like, whatever you say, I'm not going to believe it. Like, you can say whatever you want, it's not going to work. And I think this is to remind himself. like, no matter what they say, don't let them go. Or, like, don't give them any sympathy. What?

There was also an old television that was mounted on the wall at the foot of the torture chair that also had a video camera aimed at the torture chair, and it was on like a tripod. The entire trailer had been soundproofed, so no one outside could hear anything. Oh, my God. Now, when they went in there, until, like, they just, this is what they found during their search for. So this is when the FBI was called it. because holy shit, they went to town gathering.

Like, can the FBI even call anyone for help? Literally. They're like, hey, God, are you busy today? Or do you not fucking exist since shit like this happens? Like, what's happening? They went to town gathering and processing evidence because there was just so much of it. I mean, like, where do you even start? The FBI's behavioral science unit was utilized for this case as well.

This is when Cindy Hindi started talking. Why? She agreed to be formally interviewed by the behavioral science unit. Was she like excited or something? And what she said was she decided to come clean. She said she did know that David was a dangerous sick dude when she got together with him. She said he had informed her about all of the shit he had done over the 30, 40 years or so before they met. And wait until you hear.

what Cindy Hendy has to say, because we have not even scratched the surface. What? We haven't even scratched that surface. No, no, no, no. We've only talked about Cynthia Beho. Oh, my God, do we have to talk about other people, too? There's, we haven't even talked about the people he murdered. He murdered people.

And we have not talked about the one sec got away. How many? So are we talking about. Part two is going to be the conclusion. Um, hey, you know how I like you call in sick for work? I'm going to call in sick next week. I'm feeling kind of sick. Yeah, I'm not coming in today.

Well, I have something lined up for next week, and I had something intentionally. Is it fun? Fluffier. Fluffier. Is it fluffy? It's fluffy. I need a pillowcase. Well, I'll do a fluffier one, trust me.

So this is part one of the toy box killer, David Parker. How long is part two? Part two, we're going to wrap it up. We're going to wrap it up. We're going to wrap it up. a nice sandpaper bow. I literally told my husband you might not want to listen to this episode. I'm going to tell everyone I know you might not want to listen to this episode.

No, everybody listened. I'm going to tell everyone I don't want to listen to this episode. Yeah. Annie, I'm not okay. Next week, we're going to get more into Cynthia. We're going to get more into, you know, what happened after they were arrested. We're going to talk about the stuff they found after that he was arrested. that because they found that he had murder people, they found videotapes, they found all kinds,

a whole myriad of spooky, awful shit. So we're going to get more into that stuff next week. So you'll hear more about how since, because Cynthia has been on like, you know, ID discovery. No, she's not been on Ellen. I don't think this is really an Ellen topic. But I feel like, can we call it, can Ellen host next week? I don't want to host. Ellen. Do I have a story for you? Can Dr. Philhouse next week to see what the fuck is wrong with you for doing this to your fucking nice little sister?

You're fucked up, Elena. You're fucked up, man. So yeah, I promise part two we're going to give some more shit. You're going to find out the, it'll all be wrapped up in a bow that's at least somewhat satisfying. Not all satisfying, that's somewhat satisfying. I feel nauseous. Yeah.

So, I think we're going to try to try to. put both of these out this week because why not? I think we should just rip the Band-Aid off, just get it all done. So then we can give something fluffy next week. Okay. But, uh, so we'll try to do that. And I think I've literally, I think we've like broken out. I think she's broken.

I am. We broke her. We broke Ash. Dude, I'm on, do not disturb right now. We're only on episode 20 and we broke Ash. Ash is no longer available. I broke this one out too quick. You did.

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You're all amazing. So we're going to get going because this has been a thing. I think my butt's going to fall off. Yeah. Ash did not properly hold onto her butts. So we will. I feel like that joke's not funny anymore. I think it's pretty funny.

No, because like torture. Gotta have gallous humor. But if somebody like sought off his butt? I mean, what if he's unbroken? I was just taking a journey without us right now. To remind. I don't want my mind anymore. I don't want it.

I feel like this was a success, everybody. I feel like this was good. So we hope you keep listening. We hope you keep it weird. Notice the difference in inflection this week. So, goodbye. I'm never going to go anywhere alone anymore. Don't go to truth or consequences.

Yeah. Because there's always consequences. It's no truth, just consequences. This is going to make me a, what's that called? A gorephobic. Yep. Yeah. Stay tuned for Jesser-ray.

Is that the daughter? Yes. Oh god. Bye everyone. Sweet dreams. Bye. Help me. Does Jesse Brick get involved?

Nope.