Morbid - Denise Huber- Part 2

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, weirdos, I'm Elena. And I'm Ash. And this is a mini morbid. Mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini morbid. Mini morbid, mini morbid, mini morbid, mini morbid. And it's Ash centric. Ashcentric. Basically, like Elena said, it's a mini morbid.

Starting point is 00:00:22 So you know we just get right into those. I know. We don't really have a lot to. There's really not a lot to say. All the big announcements came, you know, earlier in the week and last week. Yeah. Yeah. And normally we save like any kind of announcements for the main episode, which will be Elena's. Yeah, on Saturday. Got you to it. Beat you to it. You did. I was like, what? Today is really gray and gloomy and I love it. I do too. But it's also, I'm exhausted

Starting point is 00:00:50 because it was littlest one's first birthday yesterday. Yeah, it was. Happy birthday littlest. HBD, a little. And although we couldn't have like the blowout party I usually have for all the kids for their birthdays. We had a fucking party. We tried. We gave it our best shot. Yeah. You know?

Starting point is 00:01:10 Ash really did the damn thing. Ash and Annie were like the heroes of the day. Well, because we don't have kids. So like we don't have a lot to do. But regardless, the littlest one was not exactly exhausted at the end of the day. Oh, so she didn't have a cake crash. Yeah. which then turned into like, oh, no, I'm overtired.

Starting point is 00:01:30 So we were up all night. I'm exhausted. I'm not a real person right now. So like, pair that with the gloomy day and I'm just not awake. My cats kept waking me up last night. Oh. So it's not the same as kids, but like at least it doesn't crawl onto your face. That was literally the best.

Starting point is 00:01:50 My cats kept me awake last night. If anybody has cats, they understand. Then you understand. Like, they jump on your freaking head. and they meow in your goddamn ear. Yeah, it's the exact same thing. It's the same as kids. Yeah, totally.

Starting point is 00:02:01 Like, don't they just like jump on your face and meow in your ear? Yeah, absolutely. The same. Anyways, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about today. Today, we are talking about. What are we talking about? The late Brit Murf. Britt Murphy.

Starting point is 00:02:16 Britney Murphy. Yes. So. She'll buy me a coat. No. Man. Just kidding. I want the vanilla kind.

Starting point is 00:02:24 Oh, so good. I like the cherry one. Yeah. I think we're also a little slap happy because yesterday it was a lot, you know, cats and kids. Yeah, you know, cats and kids and whatnot. We have too many things. So, yeah, so no, the reason that I wanted to do this is one, I feel like this is like a highly requested one in the inbox of morbid podcast at Gbell.com. And then also, I started watching Sister Sister on Netflix.

Starting point is 00:02:51 Yeah, you sure did. And wow. Wowzers. She's, Brittany plays Sarah in Sister Sister. and she's like kind of like a bad girl in that show. I forgot that she's in like a lot of the, like she's in Boy Meets World. Yeah, I referenced that later. Doesn't she play like Trini?

Starting point is 00:03:07 Trini, yeah. Exactly. I literally referenced that later. I love that. So yeah, this case is a little wild. I will maybe let you know my opinion at the end. Maybe I won't. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:03:18 It depends on how you're feeling. Yeah, it depends on how I'm feeling. So let's get into this. If you're feeling vulnerable at the end and you want to just let it all out. Yeah, I'm not often feeling vulnerable. Well, Britney Murphy was born on. November 10th, 1977 to her parents. A month from now. Yeah, shit. I didn't even think of that.

Starting point is 00:03:35 Today is the 10th. It's me and Annie's anniversary today, technically. Look at that. The three-ish years, L.O.L. Anyways, her parents were Sharon Murphy and Angelo Bertilote. And I think I said that right, but probably not. If you see a picture of Brittany's dad, Angelo, it's like really scary because, like, scary in like a cute way, because they have the exact same eyes. I'm definitely looking this up. there yeah because like Britney's eyes are Angelo's eyes it's the craziest thing he gave her his he did so Sharon primarily took care of Brittany because her father was in and out of jail for basically

Starting point is 00:04:11 like the first two years of her life um he was connected to the mob and he would be in jail for things like counterfeiting or like racketeering stuff wow you know that fun stuff that that high end crime that mob life that mob life you do you go a picture yet I did and now I'm freaking out because he really does have the same eyes. Like that's Britney Murphy's eyes. But really it's his eyes because he had him first. Her fiancee keeps coming up and that's a lot. Yeah, we're going to get into that because like what happened there. What happens? It's a ride, guys. Well, Brittany was like wicked, wicked close to her mom because like I said, she was primarily the one that was there for her. Yeah. And like her dad was kind of like in and out. They had a super, super

Starting point is 00:04:53 close relationship, a lot of people said it like bordered codependency. Makes sense. Or a little too close. A little too close. It happens, you know? It does. Especially in those kind of situations, it happens. Right, exactly.

Starting point is 00:05:05 And I think like even like as she gets older and like becomes like a star, I think that kind of adds to it a little more. Yeah, because you know how they always say like those kind of like famous men and women who are like, yeah, I'm surrounded by people all the time, but I'm super lonely. Right. So I think you cling to like the one thing that you know is real. Right. And the one person you think will be there, you know? Exactly. And like loves you for you. Yes, precisely. You know, you know. Well, people said also that they were like way more like sisters than they were mother and daughter. And I think even they kind of said that.

Starting point is 00:05:37 Like they were like, yeah, like, I think they literally called each other like their soulmates, which is like really sweet. That's really sad. I know. So Sharon and Angela divorced when Brittany was two. And afterwards, Brittany and Sharon moved from Atlanta, Georgia. Fun fact, that's where she was born. Atlanta. I didn't know that. Isn't that crazy? And they moved to New Jersey. I don't know where I thought she was from, but... Dude, me either, but I was like, Georgia, really? Yeah, I was like, I didn't see that coming. Because she kind of has like a New Jersey accent. She does. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:04 So it was super clear from a young age that Brittany loved to be in the spotlight. Anytime a camera was on her, she was like, I'm about to put on a performance. Like, everybody, let's get it. So any chance she got to be in that spotlight, she was going to take it. And she was good at it. And she would, like, point at the TV and be like, I want to be on the TV. TV someday. Oh, that would scare me. Yeah, my children did that. I'd be like, no, sorry. Especially now what we know about Hollywood. It's like, no thanks. No. Well, her mom was like,

Starting point is 00:06:33 okay, like, you're good at this. Like, let's, let's do it. And it was a different time back then, too. We hadn't seen all these, like, childhood stars kind of go off the deep end. Yeah. I don't know. Well, they move out to Hollywood in 1990. And Brittany got her first role as, I don't know if you've ever seen this. Brenda in Drexel's class. Oh yeah. I had never heard of that. Wait, I do know what that is. I didn't. Oh, that's weird. It's about like a principal, I think, like a high school principal and like her home life, like her family. Yes, that just spread up like weird, nostalgic memories. You're welcome. Whoa. The show was only on for one season, but Brittany found other really good roles. Like I said, Sarah and Sister Sister, you said Trini and Boy Meets World. Um, Abby on party of five. Did you watch that?

Starting point is 00:07:20 I watched a little bit of party of five, not enough to see her. Yeah, I never watched it. And then in 1995, she got what is probably her most famous role in the movie Clueless as Ty. Tie. And seriously, I'm going to go on a quick tangent. If you have never seen Clueless, you need to stop, like, turn this off right now. Go watch Clueless. It's the best movie in all of ever. And then come back. And then come back to hear what happened to Ty. Yeah, because Ty's the best, guys. Oh, she is. Annie always says that I remember. remind her of Cher in that movie. You do. Yeah, I am Cher. So, but Ty, Britney Murphy, was supposed to be like the chubby frumpy girl that Alicia Silverstone, aka Cher makes over. Way harsh, Ty.

Starting point is 00:08:02 Way harsh, Ty. Then she, after that movie, lost a lot of weight to the point where people were like, is she on cocaine? Like, everybody said that she had a cocaine addiction or like, um, like an eating disorder. People were like, is she anorexic? Because she did lose a lot of weight. Oh, she became scary. Kind of skeletal. Yeah, a little concerning. But she also, when she was younger and, like, throughout her life was a ballerina. So she, like, said she was like that. It does, like, crazy things to your body. Oh, for sure. And later on, when she does die, they said there was no signs of an eating disorder. Well, there you go. So that there's that. Yeah. And she said that she had never done cocaine because she was too afraid to because when she was younger, she found out she had a

Starting point is 00:08:45 heart murmur. And she wasn't going to do anything to fuck with that. No. Which you would. shouldn't. No, definitely not. Don't do that. Well, back to clueless because all worlds lead back to clueless. I was literally just going to say the exact same thing. It was a huge hit. That's why I urged you to turn this off and go listen to it and then come back. Sure was. And after that, that was like Britney's big break. Like she got roles in eight mile with Eminem. Oh yeah, I remember that. Sin City. Did you say that? Yep. Oh, she was great in Sin City. I never saw that. Girl interrupted. So good. Such a good movie. Uptown Girls, which Elena has never seen. No, and I have no desire to see that movie.

Starting point is 00:09:21 It's so good, but I can see why you wouldn't have a desire. But yeah, so she got like really, really great roles after that. And actually, fun fact. You know, that was, I saw that movie when I was like seven. Wow. Far too young. Yeah, a little too young. But it's really good.

Starting point is 00:09:38 And while she was filming eight miles, she really hit it off with Eminem and they dated briefly. Oh, I remember that because I remember her, I remember when the VMAs were like a thing you watched. Remember we used to watch them to. together all the time. Because they were an event. Yeah. Because there was actual like good music. Right. There was like performances. There was actual rock bands back then. You knew who everybody was. You knew, I knew who people were. Now I would watch it and I would have no idea. I'd feel like I was on Mars. I'm 24 years old and I recently watched the VMAs and the entire time I was like, who's that? I would have no idea who anyone was. No idea.

Starting point is 00:10:11 What anything is. I wouldn't know what anyone was talking about. But back then I remember because I think if I remember correctly, because I think if I remember correctly, I can see it in my head right now. Okay. It was when he did the performance Eminem where he had like a billion clones of him come in. And he wanted the real Slim Shady to stand up. And exactly. And he had all these clones come into the place and it was like this big event. And they kept panning back to Britney Murphy in the audience and she was like jamming out. I love it. And that's when everybody was like, oh my God, they're dating. Like that was when everybody was like, holy shit, they're definitely dating. Because she was like clearly very into it. Yeah. I love that. And I just like. And I just like, like picture it in my head. That actually reminded me. She also said she was like, people always

Starting point is 00:10:53 think that I'm fucked up because like I'm always the girl dancing at like a party. But she's like, I just love to dance. Like I'm never that fucked up. She seems like she was just that person that was just like hyper. Yeah. And like very over the top. Like just a good fucking time. Yeah. And she was like, I'll have like a glass of champagne from time to time. But other than that, like no. Like I'm not as crazy as you think I am. So yeah, she dated Eminem. She also dated Ashton Coucher while she. she filmed Just Married. Oh, just married. I forgot about that one. I've never seen that one. John and I I used to watch that like all the time. Really? Yeah, I don't know why, but we did. I love that. Before we got married, we used to watch that all the time. I need to watch it.

Starting point is 00:11:31 It's on Amazon Prime. And somehow after watching it, we still got married. Well, there you go. So you wouldn't know, but after watching it, you're like, um. I know. I was like that. So yeah, she had like some whirlwind romances with her co-stars. Get it, girl. But then in 2006, she met screenwriter Simon Marley. And after just a year of dating, and they dated, like, very quietly, they got married and a small Jewish ceremony, a ceremony, that shocked the tabloids because they were like, wait a second, we didn't even know she was fucking engaged. Wait, is she dating someone?

Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah, like, what? She was like, yeah, I was. Oh, well. And a lot of people in Hollywood were shocked when it got out. And people were, like, a little bit pissed off. Like, like, they thought, like, stars should date stars, which is, like, a little bit ridiculous. Wait, people were pissed off. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:19 No, genuinely. Like, people were mad. That's so weird. Like, I read an article about it. And then also they said, Stars should date stars, man. Keep it within Hollywood, motherfucker. Like, what about Matt Damon?

Starting point is 00:12:31 He married a waitress. What about, like, many people? And he has many, many kids with her. Yeah, like the cutest. I love that. I love it. But, yeah, but also the people were mad, too, because Simon didn't exactly have, like, the best reputation.

Starting point is 00:12:44 No? Brittany was his third wife, which, like, whatever. Yeah, like, it happened. happens. His first wife said that she owed him, or he owed her $50,000. That's a pretty sizable debts. He also had some like weird like fraudulent past where he seems a bit of a con man. He seems a little fraudulent. Yeah, exactly. He just got an air of fraudulence. He was, he was a bit of a con man. And he will. People had warned Brittany about marrying or even just being involved with him. They were like, yeah, like, don't do that. Uh-oh. Like, no, thank you.

Starting point is 00:13:18 But they said that once the two got involved, Simon was very controlling. And he would tell Brittany who she was going to talk to and who she wasn't going to talk to. Oh, no. So we see where this is going. But Brittany stuck by his side. And, you know, it's like people can say what they want to. And I feel like there's so many rumors about like Hollywood romances. And you just really never know.

Starting point is 00:13:40 So I don't know. But she stuck by aside and kind of almost to a fault because on the set of the movie The Caller, do you ever see that one? No, I didn't see that one. neither. But Simon stumbled and drunk on set while they were filming. And the director was like, Brittany, get him out of here. What's the fuck? And she wouldn't. So she got fired. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's your, what, fiance or husband at that point? Right. Come stumbling into your workplace drunk. Because that's the thing. Like, you have to remember, like, that's a workplace. Yeah. That is what you do

Starting point is 00:14:11 for work. That's literally what you do for work. Right. That's the disrespect there is like astronomical. Huge. Right. Exactly. Like that's a, that's a crossing a line. And it was said that like that, once she kind of started dating him, she also went downhill. Like, she got a little wrapped up in that. Oh, yeah. I mean, if he's stumbling and drunk in the middle of something, probably in the middle of the day. Right.

Starting point is 00:14:32 That's bad news bears. What's going on there? He was like, I never did that. That's not true. Oh, okay. Obviously. But we just have to stay both sides. So on the contrary of many, like, unhappy opinions, Sharon loved him.

Starting point is 00:14:46 Hmm. So her mom was like, her mom is like her big. a supporter and she's like, I really like him. Wow. Sharon and Brittany had always lived together and that didn't change when Simon entered the picture. They all just lived together. Okay.

Starting point is 00:14:59 Which is like live your life. Yeah. They lived. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Like I want to. It's funny because like on the surface, I'm like, yeah, totally.

Starting point is 00:15:08 Like that happens all the time. But this particular instance, I'm like, it feels weird. Something's weird. And it feels weird for a good reason. I don't know why. We'll get to it. It's stinky. So actually, this is funny.

Starting point is 00:15:17 They lived in Britney Spears' old home in the Hollywood Hills. Brittany Murphy bought the home from Britney Spears in 2003. And I hope a Britney still lives there because I feel like that should just be like a running theme. A Britney needs to, that needs to be like a Britney dynasty house. Like it's Britney bitch. It's Britney bitch. Sorry. All the time.

Starting point is 00:15:36 So, yeah, they all live together. And according to Simon's own mother, the way that they lived together was not really healthy. No. Because she went as far as calling them hoarders. Oh. And describing some of the windows as boarded up. She said there was like no airflow in the home and that there was mold in the home, like in the windows. And we're going to get into it later.

Starting point is 00:15:58 So I'm just going to briefly say this. Like Simon gives like a home tour later on after Britney dies. And he's like, and these are all her clothes. And you can't tell what the room is. But according to his mom, it's the living room or the dining room. I forget which one she said. But it's literally like the entire room. It looks like a big closet.

Starting point is 00:16:16 it. But it's either the living room or the dining room. She's like, yeah, they were all hoarders. Oh, I hate that. That actually gives me anxiety, just thinking about it. And then they show the bathroom in the home thing and there's just like so many products, like tons and tons of products everywhere. And it doesn't look dirty. Like, I wouldn't say it looks dirty. It's just like cluttered times 10, like clutter on steroids. And you, I mean, it's Britney Spears' his old home too, so you know it's a huge house with a lot of space. Big, yeah. So for it to be cluttered, that's a lot of shit. Definitely. Lots and lots of things.

Starting point is 00:16:48 So definitely not the healthiest living conditions. No. And potentially the reason that Brittany wound up sick as, like, as sick as she did. And potentially the reason Simon died just five months after Brittany did in the same home in the same exact way. You know, I totally forgot that. Really? That's part of this? That's part of this.

Starting point is 00:17:11 Like, you just blew my mind. Oh, yes. I love when that happens. I just haven't thought of this case in so long that I forgot all these. little details. I totally forgot that. In the same house, in the exact same way. And it's not like, it's not, we're going to get into how it was, but it's like weird that they died the exact same. So Brittany has been sick for a few days leading up to December 20th, 2009. She had just actually returned from a movie set in Puerto Rico. And she was suffering pneumonia, chest pains,

Starting point is 00:17:39 a bad cough, and just like all around like body weakness. Sounds like COVID. It does sound like COVID. Perhaps it was. The directors of the movie said that she had been fired, so this is another movie that she's getting fired from, because she was disoriented on set, her bathroom breaks were too long, and she was constantly forgetting her lines. And I do remember there being a period of time where, like, she would give interviews and you were like, oh. Girl, you okay? Yeah. Like, there was just, she seemed just on a different planet a lot. Well, and toward the end of her career, like I said, like she was in movies like, Clueless and Girl, you.

Starting point is 00:18:16 Interrupted. I'm saying, like, naming these big name movies. And then toward the end of her career, she kind of got, like, indie thrillers that, like, are not bad movies, but it's, like, easier to get those roles. They were, like, B roles as opposed to A rules. Yeah, like, one of the movies I remember it was a bigger one, though. Across the hall. Is it, what, is that, no, the one that's, like, where she did that, oh, never to. Oh, fuck, that one freaks me up. Is that to catch a spider? Um, shit. I'm going to have to look it up. Yeah, look it up. look it up. You go ahead and I'll look this up. Oh, that line always gives me like the chills. I'll never tell. So freaky. So yeah, so they fired her. And for some reason, even though she was so

Starting point is 00:18:57 sick, she didn't go see a doctor. Although, and this is sad, there are rumors that she had made a doctor's appointment ironically scheduled for the day after she passed away. Oh. But it's not confirmed. So it might just be one of those stupid things that's like, this would add to the sadness of it all. It's don't say a word, by the way. I don't know why I had it mixed up with to catch a spider, but yeah, don't say a word is a great movie. Yeah. But yeah, so toward the end of her career, she wasn't getting like as big a roles and it was because of her behavior on set. Yeah, that makes sense. Which kind of reminded me if you're not a patron, maybe donate to the Patreon and listen to the Maryland Monroe episode.

Starting point is 00:19:35 Oh, yeah, because it is a very similar kind of trajectory a little bit. It is. Hollywood Stallets. So the 911 call came on the morning. of December 20th, and it came from Sharon. Okay. She sobbed on the phone, somebody's passed out. Somebody. Your daughter, you mean? Her name's Brittany.

Starting point is 00:19:55 Haw? You created her? Like, you're very close, remember? And then she does ultimately say my daughter, but the first opening line is somebody. Somebody's passed out. Which is weird, if you ask me. The 911 operator encouraged Sharon to perform mouth to mouth. Simon did it while Sharon was on the phone, but Brittany had been like coughing violently

Starting point is 00:20:14 to the point of throwing up. And she had collapsed once before that that morning. And the first time... And no one's calling 911 when this is happening? No. And the first time she told her mom, Mommy, I'm dying. I love you.

Starting point is 00:20:27 The first time she collapsed. That just hurt my soul in a way that will never be repaired. And right before she collapsed the second time, she said, like, I don't remember the exact quote, but she asked her mom for a hug and was like, oh, like I'm out. Like, this is it. What the fuck?

Starting point is 00:20:43 Yeah. Why wasn't her mother? they're calling that. Like, I'm sorry. She said, mommy, I don't, I have it written down. Mommy, I don't feel well. And then she passed out. When a grown-ass woman is saying, mommy, I don't feel well, like, call a fucking ambulance. Yeah, exactly. And she's passing out and collapsing. She collapsed twice. And the second time, there was nothing they could do. Like, I don't care if I sound judgey. Like, no, fuck that. Yeah, call the police. Like, shit. Call someone. So she was taken to Cedar Sinai hospital, but it was too late. Yeah, it was too late. She was pronounced dead at 10.05 a.m.

Starting point is 00:21:12 at 32 years old. She was younger than me. 32. And Marilyn was 36, right? Yeah. So, weirdly similar. Wow. So this dude named Ed Winter, he does all the celebrity deaths in Hollywood. Oh, you know. You know Ed Winter. He's done Michael Jackson. He's done Whitney Houston. And he was the coroner to do Britney's death as well. Wow, that's interesting. Michael Bodden did a lot of these as well. Oh, there you go. Maybe you would have been better off doing this one. Maybe. So there was a media frenzy, duh, right away. Oh, of course. Because Britney Murphy's 32 and she just collapsed in her home and she's been acting

Starting point is 00:21:48 hella weird lately. I remember this too. There were rumors that she was smoking crack a few weeks before her death. Whoa. That her career was ending because she had been fired by her agency and her manager and that she had been battling a drug addiction for years. So did the agency or the managers like confirm any of this? She actually did get dropped by her agency and manager.

Starting point is 00:22:08 All right. So shit was going on. far more than what was being put into the press. A hundred percent. So even though Simon requested that an autopsy not be done, that doesn't chat with me, why don't you want an autopsy done? And he'll tell you why later. But let's just, he'll tell you.

Starting point is 00:22:28 Let's just be where we are. Don't you worry, he'll tell you. So even though he didn't want an autopsy, Ed Winter was like, yeah, dude, like, I have do because your 32-year-old girlfriend just suddenly, or excuse me, wife just suddenly died. It's not natural. It's not natural. you have like a religious objection or you can get a court order, I got to do this autopsy. Yeah, of course. So he couldn't, Simon couldn't get any kind of court order. It couldn't, didn't have like a

Starting point is 00:22:51 religious reason why. So they didn't. But people thought it was super weird that he didn't want an autopsy time. Yeah. Because it's like, what are you hiding? Because why wouldn't you want to know? I would want to know every single detail of what. The next line of my note says, why wouldn't you want all the answers to the death of your beautiful young, mostly healthy wife? until a few days ago, question mark. I would literally want to know. I'd be like, I need to know what happened. Right.

Starting point is 00:23:16 Because otherwise, I'm just going to sit there and speculate if I don't know. Or maybe he already knew what happened because he did it. Oh, intrigue. Just saying. So Simon explained in an interview with Larry King sitting right next to Sharon. It was Sharon and Simon doing this interview with good old Mr. King that Britney was suffering from laryngitis. And he was a rabbi.

Starting point is 00:23:38 So he prayed instead of prescribing. And everyone was like, since when are you a fucking rabbi? What? Like, I'm sorry, what? What? What? And I literally wrote, what? And then Larry King was like, yeah, like, how do you feel about people calling you a Sengali? Which, like, if you don't know what that means, it basically is somebody that like just controls like your manipulates and controls. Exactly. And he said, and I quote, Sven Gali, I should be so lucky. What? You want to be lucky enough to control somebody's mind? Like your wife? What? What? What? What? I should be so lucky. It's like, bro, if you are not looking to be super suspicious. Super.

Starting point is 00:24:18 Oh, it gets more, it gets more suss. He read the wrong manual. Then, to explain why he didn't want an autopsy done, he responded. And get ready to, like, put your creep goggles on so you can swim through this with me. Oh, no. This pristine body that was curvy in all the right places. Skin like silk to have it cut open? What the fuck?

Starting point is 00:24:40 He's on Larry King talking about his dead wife and says this pristine body that was curvy in all the right place. Like, ew. Curvy in all the right places? And you're sitting next to her mother. Like, fuck off. And she's dead. Like, please be more creepy. You can't touch that curvy body anymore, you fucking weirdo.

Starting point is 00:24:58 Perhaps TGIF, like, cool, cool, cool. Oh. Too much. So Sharon was there too. Did you say TGIF? I meant to say, thank God. But then I was going to say like TG and then I just went with TGIF. I was going to let that go.

Starting point is 00:25:13 I saw the confusion on your face. Did you see it was like that meme of the lady? Thank God it's Friday. With all those like like equations going past her head because I was like, thank God. What does it mean? I was like, do you mean like TGIF like that really cool lineup of shows that happened? And then I was like, no. No, I just spent Friday.

Starting point is 00:25:30 I just meant thank God. Okay, cool. TGIF. TGIF. So yeah, Sharon was there too. And like I said, of course she's mourning her. daughter, but she did look very out of it and was like laughing at Simon's weird-ass jokes. Yeah, this is all just very strange. We all grieve differently, I guess. Like, here I am. I'm not

Starting point is 00:25:49 accusing anybody of anything. I don't know shit. No. I'm just saying this all looks real weird. And I'm, listen, you can say what you want about me, but I'm going to give you all the facts from all the different angles. Exactly. Like, I'm going to, I'm going to say some other shit, too. So before you get mad and write an email, listen to the end of the episode. Just listen all the way through. Do not pause and write the email because I'm going to say some more shit. We're only halfway there. Because then you'll have to amend that email and say, oops, I listened to the rest of the episode. Oh, my goodness.

Starting point is 00:26:15 I just finished listening and you did say that. So, thank you. This has been a PSA. So the LA County... The LA County Corner came back and said that no foul play was involved. Seems legit. Okay. But people were not convinced.

Starting point is 00:26:33 Everybody was like, Ed. What? You lie in. Well, and also he did Michael Jackson, so it's like, oh, I was like, I'm going to know, Simon had become, and Whitney for that matter. So what the fuck? What the fuck? Like, you should be fired.

Starting point is 00:26:47 See, I'm going to get like a cease and desist. Simon had become increasingly weird and it, given a tour of Britney's home to radar, like shortly after her death and was like, come look at the very bathroom where she died. Yeah, that alone is showing you. This is the chaise lounge that she collapsed on. Here's all her clothing. This shows you exactly the type of person. was and exactly the type of influence he was on her life. Exactly. Because no one who really loved

Starting point is 00:27:14 someone for who they were and cared about them would be making money off of fucking radar online interviews. It would never happen. So the coroner determined that Brittany Murphy had died of pneumonia, acute an amemia, and an OD of over-the-counter medications. Okay. I wrote down OD slash OTC, and I was like, what does that mean again? What does OTC mean? An overdose of over-the-counter the counter medications. Okay. Lots of those. There were also many prescription medicines and Brittany system. Uh-oh. Not all prescribed to her. Oh, that's not good. Fourteen, to be exact, we're found in her system and half of them were not prescribed to her. Guys, so like seven. Don't take someone else's prescriptions. If I can give you one piece of freaking advice.

Starting point is 00:28:01 These prescriptions are given based on somebody's exact weight. DNA, like, like, in every, like, Exactly what they need. It's like, just don't do it. And these were medicines that were prescribed to Simon. Oh, yeah. So he's about 17 feet taller than she is. Right. She was tiny.

Starting point is 00:28:17 A zillion pounds heavier than she is. And he was a big grease ball yucco. Yeah. I love that. A big grease ball yucco. So Eddie Bubar owned the pharmacy where Brittany, Simon, and Sharon's prescriptions came from. And he said that he told Sharon at one point, quote, I think you've got more than I do, and I own the pharmacy. Oh, that's not good. And he said he told,

Starting point is 00:28:42 and he said he remembers thinking something was going to happen at that house. Yeah. Like he, I think he like stopped giving them prescriptions at one point. Like he was like, no. Eventually it comes to a point where you're like, okay. Like, I can't do that. Yeah. He also said that it wasn't unusual for celebrities to use an alias when they got their prescription. Yeah, that makes sense. And that Britney Murphy's often came in as Lola Manlo. Lola Manlo. I know. Isn't that interesting? Lola. It was later found out that Sharon had been going to six different pharmacies to get all of their prescriptions.

Starting point is 00:29:12 That's no good. No, when your pharmacy shopping, let me tell you. No, it's not a good thing. Not a good thing. Don't do it. Altogether, there were 90 different prescriptions in Simon's name that were found in the home. What? 90.

Starting point is 00:29:27 Holy shit. Like, what? And some of the ones found in Brittany's system included two anti-seizure. medicines. She wasn't epileptic, but Simon was. And actually, Topamax, we talked about it because it was in Kanika Jenkins system. And then we got like a ton of information about all the different things that can be. In this case, it was used as an anti-seizure medicine. I know that it can be used as other things. Actually, it can be used as like an appetite suppressant or stimulant. I forget which one. But so yeah, in this case, it was epilepsy. But she didn't have that. So, yeah. So, yeah, in this case, it was

Starting point is 00:30:01 for epilepsy. But she didn't have that. So it's like, why, what? Propanoral, I think propanol, which is used for high blood pressure. Diazepam was found in her system, along with three other benzos, which is like, that's not good. A doctor said that there were four different benzodiazepines in her system, and that strongly suggested a drug addiction. Oh, man, yeah. It was also said that the overdose on the over-the-counter medication probably made her pneumonia. worse. Yeah. Because, um, and well, they said if she had been taken to a doctor, she would be

Starting point is 00:30:40 alive today, which, duh. Yeah. But when you have pneumonia and you take a cough suppressant, you're not able to hack up the mucus in your lungs. So then it gets, which is what is causing the pneumonia to begin with. Exactly. So then it gets thicker, worsening your symptoms, making you take more medicine because you think you're doing the right thing. And then you're not. So you got to cough it up. It's not good. And then as far as the anemia, the coroner actually said that was because of heavy periods. Oh. And I think she had, I don't know if she had her period when she died, but she had it right around the time that she died. So that's why they said she's anemic. And it's like that, you know, in, in conjunction with the hundred of other things that was wrong, it's like when

Starting point is 00:31:18 you're also anemic on top of that, you don't have a loss that's fighting. You're helping your system fight. Your immune system is like shot and pneumonia is going to like fuck your immune system. Absolutely. Because normally like acute anemia is not going to kill you, you know. No, but with all these other things. It's like, yeah. So Simon and Sharon continued to live in the home together after Brittany died. And they took on the codependent relationship that she and Brittany had before. Eek. Yeah, a little weird if you ask me. There were photo shoots they did, like holding each other and holding Britney's photos up. I just saw a couple of those and I was like, I'm going to put this away now. Yeah, they're real weird in my personal opinion. But like I said, everyone greaves in their own way.

Starting point is 00:32:00 Dries differently. Do your own thing. Yeah, do you. Maybe don't do like a photo shoot with your mother-in-law holding your dead wife's pick, but okay. But like, all right. Okay. But what is strange without a fucking question is the fact that, like I said, just five months after Britney's death, Sharon was calling 911 to the 1895 Rising Glen Drive again. That's, I can't believe I forgot about this part. So this time, Simon was unconscious. On the phone, she said, my son-in-law stopped breathing, baby, please, baby, get up, please. Which, like, I understand that you call, like, older people call younger people, like sweetheart or something. But I think baby is a little different.

Starting point is 00:32:46 Especially a son-in-law. Yeah, not a son. That's a little strange to me. Yeah. And a son-in-law that you have not known for that long. It's not like he's been your son-in-law. They were only married for, like, three years. Yeah, and before that, they weren't even dating for that long.

Starting point is 00:32:59 Right. It's like, it's not like you've known this guy forever and like you've had the, I don't know. Yeah. It's just weird to me. And I think it's weird too when you like look at the entire situation. That's the thing. It's like in with everything else. Maybe if that was like the only thing, it'd be like, okay, I wouldn't do that, but like live your life.

Starting point is 00:33:15 I just think it's strange. I think so too. I don't see my in-laws calling me baby. I don't see my parents calling John baby. I just don't see any of that. My like not in-laws yet, just call me Ash. Yeah. So they tell her to take him off the bed and try to get him onto the floor.

Starting point is 00:33:33 And she says, I can't because he's gigantic. I was literally just going to say he's gigantic. She literally uses the word gigantic and I'm laughing because I'm uncomfortable. Yeah, it's a very uncomfortable situation. So when they came to get Simon and investigate the scene afterwards, there were tons of prescriptions on each side of the bed. One side were all of Sharon's prescriptions. And they were in the name Sharon Monjack, which is Simon. last name. I hate this on a lot of levels. Why is his last name on your prescriptions?

Starting point is 00:34:05 I wrote, what? I literally just wrote, what? She apparently explained this by saying that they shared the bed because they were comforting each other after losing Brittany. No. But then she later denied that she ever said that. So that could be a rumor, but I feel like it's true. That's not okay. Well, wouldn't you know it? The coroner comes back and says that Simon died of acute pneumonia and anemia. Huh. Wouldn't you know it? Did he have heavy periods too?

Starting point is 00:34:37 Yes. What the fuck? Very heavy periods. What is this from? So now the tablets are going not so fudso all over again. Seriously. Because people, what are the odds that two married people, husband and wife, die of the exact same thing five months apart?

Starting point is 00:34:50 The odds are pretty astronomical. Pretty astronomical, if you ask me. And among the people who thought something was shady as fuck, were Angelo, Brittany's dad, and her stepbrother, Tony. So they both think that foul play is involved. And they point the finger at Sharon and Simon for killing Brittany. And then Sharon for killing Simon, basically ensuring that he would never turn on her. Scandal.

Starting point is 00:35:16 Scandal. So Angela was so convinced that something was awry. He hired Cyril Wecht. And he's a famous forensic pathologist in America. And he agreed that it was, quote, rare and unfathomable that a Hollywood star would die like this. He pointed out that many times acute anemia is present in those who have been poisoned with arsenic. So that's weird. And arsenic didn't show up in the autopsy.

Starting point is 00:35:47 Angela was like, yeah, but who knows if they even did like an actual autopsy? I was going to say, you don't know. So he was like, I think that they just like said they were doing it as a formality and I don't think they like went to town on it. Yeah, they didn't do a proper talk screen. And he's like, how do I know that they're not involved in a cover-up? Like, this is L.A. Like, hello? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:05 So, Angelo found out that Brittany's hair had never been tested, which is, is that weird? Yeah, that is strange, like, especially for like a high profile case and for something, and for it to be so strange, you would think they would test it. Well, so he had it sent out himself to a lab. And the results came back, and there were 10 heavy metals found in her hair. Huh. So Cyril or Cyril said. I have never seen anything like this. And heavy metals are also consistent in people who have been poisoned.

Starting point is 00:36:33 Yeah. And so Angelo went to Sharon and he said, I want to have Britney's body exhumed. And Sharon said, no, we're not exhuming her body. Okay. Mm-mm. So, I mean, I personally, just like you, think that that is a little shady. That's strange to me. But I am going to play devil's advocate just for anybody else that might also do the same. Maybe she just didn't want her daughter's body disturbed again. Absolutely. That could definitely be the case. However, me personally, if they said we think something bad happened to your daughter. Exume the shit out of her. Exume her. I want to see what happened. Exactly. Well, Sharon turned around and pointed the finger at Angela and was like, nope, he's just after Britney's money. And it's like, well, who's to say you're not after her fucking money?

Starting point is 00:37:14 Exactly. It's like, it doesn't like, you're the one living in her damn house. Exactly. He said that Sharon was the third person in the marriage and she was threatened when Brittany and Simon started talking about having a baby and moving to New York without her. Ah. So, Angela fought for like years and years to find out what happened, but he finally backed off in 2017 because he was in bad health. And then he passed away in 2019. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:37:38 And he never knew exactly what happened. No. That's sad. And Britney's stepbrother, Tony, says that he still believe Simon is to blame for Britney's death and that sometimes in Hollywood, a dead actress is worth more than she is alive. Yeah? Which is honestly like super true. So LA stands by their results and they said there was no medals in Britney system and they're

Starting point is 00:38:00 100% sure that she wasn't murdered. They're just like case closed, done so. But Richard Shepard from the show Autopsy. Have you ever watched that? Oh yeah. I love that show. Really good. I love that show.

Starting point is 00:38:12 He went over Britney and Simon's autopsies and explained his thoughts on the entire thing. Simon, he basically was like Simon was in bad health because he was like older and larger and didn't take care of himself. Yeah. But he pointed out, because there was methamphetamine present in Britney's system too. Oh, okay. And he pointed out that that was probably from an inhaler, although she had never been prescribed an inhaler. Simon was. Okay. So it's like she probably had that. And then he said that Britney was potentially a hypochondriac after she had been diagnosed with the heart murmur. And then she was in a 1995 car accident that left her with a dislocated jaw, cracked ribs, and a broken collarbone.

Starting point is 00:38:53 And that's probably when she kind of started, like, taking more prescriptions because she was, like, so worried that something was wrong with her. Yeah, and it just, like, starts a spiral. Exactly. He also said that the metals found in Brittany's hair were most likely from hair dye. And that's why they weren't found in her blood and only in her hair. Okay. And he was like, all the heavy metals found in her hair are consistent with heavy metals found in

Starting point is 00:39:17 hair tie. Oh, that's interesting. Which got me to thinking, maybe I should stop dying my feet. fucking hair so much. I was like, damn. Because like, I don't really want arsenic on my head. Yeah, no. There was no arsenic. Um, so he said, it kind of ruled out her being poisoned. And he pointed out that if she had been poisoned, it would have showed in her skin and her teeth and it didn't. Okay. He also said that the mold in the bedroom potentially weakened her immune system. And that because she and Simon were both living in the same conditions, it really wasn't that crazy that they

Starting point is 00:39:49 died under the same circumstances. Okay. Which, okay. And again, he's in super bad health and he's overweight and doesn't take care of himself. There you go. And he's living like this. It's like not that crazy. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:00 And last but not least, the reason why blood poisoning is in her records is because she had Staphylococcus. Oh, yeah. Enter her bloodstream. So Staphylococcus can cause micro-abscesses in the lungs when you have something like pneumonia. And then you're unable to produce oxygen. And that's why she collapsed twice. and ultimately died, and then her blood became infected.

Starting point is 00:40:22 That does make sense. So maybe she was murdered, maybe not. But there's still one more thing that I haven't told you yet. Because so far both of these things are plausible to me. I can't decide, to be honest with you. Like, it's, I'm, there's definitely some shady shit. Uh-huh. But it's like, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:40:41 Like, did they do this? Like, I just don't know. But this is weird. So Britney was like super into having the house. monitored all the time. They had 56 cameras around the house and like security up the wazoo. Like there was always a security guard there because Brittany's family friend Julia Davis became a whistleblower for homeland security. Whoa. About procedures letting terrorists into the country. So there was going to be like this huge court case about it. And Brittany was supposed to be a

Starting point is 00:41:14 witness at Julia's trial. Whoa. And like in the weeks and months leading up to Britney's death, she became like super paranoid and always felt like she was being watched. And like, even Simon's mom would say, like, Simon would be like, there's an airplane like flying over the house now. Like there's a helicopter. Oh, man. We're being followed. So that could have something to do with it too. But there's not a lot known about that because it's home in security. So. Oh, shit. So that is the case of Britney Murphy. Was she murdered? Was she not? Damn. I just don't know. I kind of feel like maybe she was. But then I'm like, it does make sense that maybe, like, she wasn't.

Starting point is 00:41:54 Because mold can fuck you up. Mold can fuck you up. And pneumonia can fuck you up. Yeah. Especially if you have a weak immune system. It all makes sense to be quite. It's very rare that both sides make perfect sense. That's the thing because the other side makes sense too.

Starting point is 00:42:09 It's like, yeah. Maybe they were going to move and like we're Simon and Sherry in love or something. This is just weirdness. It's weird. This weird vibe. There's a weird fuck. over this whole case. Yeah. I just don't know. It leaves me with a bad feeling. So that makes me feel like something more happened. But also, I like to have a bad feeling because I like to know true crime.

Starting point is 00:42:32 So yeah, I just something's weird. I don't know. What do you guys think? Tell us in the comments, write us a Gmail. Let us know. This has been a Nashcentric mini morbid. Man, this was a good one. Thank you. RIP, Brittany Murphy. I know. RIP because I like was watching sister sister. and then I remember, like, every now and then I'll just remember that she's dead. Yeah, I know. It's like, oh, shit. Bummer. She was a really good actress.

Starting point is 00:42:54 She was. So, yeah. If you enjoyed this episode, you can follow us on Instagram at Morbid Podcast. Hit us up on Twitter. A Morbid Podcast. Send us a Gmail. Morbid Podcasts at gmail.com. And thanks for listening.

Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah. We hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird. But not so weird that you like. meet this guy and you're like, oh my God, I love him so much, but I really use a comment and he might be kind of like killing you. And not so weird that you say that you're a spangali when you're not, like it would be an honor to be a spangali. Don't be, don't keep it so weird that you want to be a spangali. That's all I have to say about that. Yeah, that's a weird one. That's the

Starting point is 00:43:29 weird one. That's the weirdest one. And also don't keep it so weird that you sleep in the same bed as your brother-in-law or your son-in-law after your daughter dies. Yeah, don't keep it weird. Definitely don't keep it that weird. Don't do it. Even though the statement got retracted in. Either one. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you.

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