Morbid - Episode 136: The 2011 Oslo Bombing and Utoya Island Massacre "Mini" Morbid

Episode Date: May 3, 2020

It's an Alaina Mini.....clearly. Norway! We are covering a case from your beautiful land. July 22, 2011 started like any other day, with an island full of youth campers enjoying their time together and business as usual for the government district of Oslo. In the end, 77 innocent people lost their lives to the delusions and hatred of Anders Breivik. Sources: https://sjtrem.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1757-7241-20-3 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-14276074 https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/26/world/europe/norway-terror-attacks https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/09/norway-bomb-like-device-found-in-central-oslo This episode sponsored by: Best Fiends Best Fiends has thousands of levels already, with new levels, events, and characters added every month. It’s hours of fun right at your fingertips—and you can even play offline! With over 100 million downloads and tons of five-star reviews, Best Fiends is a must-play! Download Best Fiends FREE on the Apple App Store or Google Play. That’s FRIENDS without the R – Best Fiends! Daily Harvest Go to DailyHarvest.com and enter promo code MORBID to get twenty-five dollars off your first box!  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And it made my heart sad. So I'm like really looking forward to actually getting to you. Yeah, Washington DC is now going to be on September 16th at the DC improv. So many monuments. All the monuments. And then And then, uh, sorry, I just totally blanked. September 23rd, Nashville, Tennessee, at Zanees. Nashville, Zanees is supposed to be rad and I'm excited. And then last but definitely not least, go War Eagles, go Roll Tide. Somebody else told me something I could say if I was getting sick of that and I forget damn it. Oh, I saw that message, damn it.

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Stoked. So tonight's case, we are going to be telling a story from a place that I feel like a little connected to. Okay. It's to. Okay. It's Norway. Okay. Because you're all in it. Well, because I'm Anna, first of all, obviously.

But second of all, my husband is Norwegian, so I feel like I'm connected to it in some way, because my children have beautiful icy blue eyes, thanks to that part of the gene pool. So like, thanks Norway. Honestly, your kids have the prettiest eyes and the whole land of everywhere. And they got it from their dad. They did not get it from me. Not dad it. They did. And I mean, his grandmother used to make pineapples rice and cream, which is Norwegian, and it's delicious. So I feel connected to you, Norway, I feel it. This story is super tragic.

I'm sure everyone in Norway that's listening to this right now is probably like I know exactly which one you're going to do. I think I know what you're going to do, too. Well, not a lot of bad shit happens in Norway. Norway is nothing that happens in Norway. It's a real chill place and people are real chill there So it there's not a lot to pick from But tonight we're gonna be talking about the Oslo bombing and the Utoia Island shooting. Oh, no, which happened in 2011 So we'll start out by talking about the

Absolute piece of shit that did this. His name was Anders Bravick. He was born February 13th, 1979. His mother was a nurse and his father was a diplomat for Norway. Oh shit. That's interesting. That is interesting. Yeah, and he was actually born in London and spent his first year there before his parents separated and he moved in with his mother in

Oslo, Norway. Gotcha. He had a real like a weird relationship with his dad in the sense that his father like really wasn't around. He was a diplomat, he was busy, and he just wasn't really interested in having a relationship with him. I guess he tried to for a little while, but just kind of he didn't try hard enough. Yeah, like contact with his father was just not consistent. Yeah. When he was four, there were at least two reports with social services that were concerning his mental health and well-being. Oh no. Oh man. Yeah. And at this point, he's living with his mother full-time. His mother did have some mental health issues of her own. She also sounded like a raging asshole.

She, I mean, they recommended that he be taken from her in the report. But the report says that she sexualized her young son at four years old and exposed him to things that he shouldn't be exposed to at four. At four years old and exposed him to things that he shouldn't be exposed to at four. At four years old, what the fuck? She also hit him on occasion according to her and told him that she wished he was dead

a few times. Oh, sorry. Yeah, she basically bred a serial killer. That's great. Yeah, pretty much. This is definitely a case. I'm sure there's a little nature in there because I, you I've said this before I believe that it's a mixture of the two definitely but I think in a home like this I really don't know what you're

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happening. Follow this is actually happening wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Add Free on the Amazon Music or Wonderly app. So he wasn't taken away from her. The report was ignored, which is not good. She was diagnosed at one point with borderline personality disorder and was diagnosed with severe depression as well. I was going to ask you if she had BPD. Yeah, she definitely did. So this, so one, the report that they wrote about him, like they wrote a few, social services wrote a few reports about him when he was younger, just observations about him. One of them really focused on the thing about Andres was that his

smile was very strange. Okay. And a very doctor said that his smile, even at three and four years old, was not one born from emotion. It was forced. It was, it was not a normal emotional response like most of us have. They felt it was kind of just like he automatically plastered on this creepy little smile Just to like show like yep, I'm supposed to smile now, so I like the re in four years old. That's really sad Exactly like instead of just feeling joy He just showed that he was like okay. I'm supposed to feel joy now, so I'm just gonna smile and It's like that's really awful. And it's like, you have to wonder

if like, with the whole nature versus nurture thing, you have to wonder if that's like, a nature kind of thing, like if your, yeah, if that's brain-worked. If that's some kind of imbalance, that's just like. Yeah. I mean, some people, and it kind of goes to show, it's like one of those things,

Anders happens to be one of those people who is very out emotional, obviously. And he went in a bad direction. And then there's kids that just, you know, they're not emotional. They grow emotional. Yeah. They just grow up to be normal kids. They're just not super emotional. He also kept pet rats when he was little, which is not weird in and of itself. Like I don't find anything wrong with rats. What do you mean to them, was any? He'd like to torture them.

Yeah, see, that's like your first perfect sign. You could either, like, head injuries. Head injuries normally a good telltale sign. If you skip over that, next step is always animals. Yeah, it's true. It was also said in a few places that little girls in the neighborhood were frightened of him. Like, didn't want to play with him. Which, nothing else was said about that, but it's like, uh, oh, about that. That tells you something.

Uh, at one point, his mother remarried and had a daughter. Anders didn't get along with his stepfather or his step sister. Uh, they just kind of like didn't have a relationship. He was like, I don't really want anything to do with you guys. Um, as he got older, he became a little closer to his father. They just kind of like didn't have a relationship. He was like, I don't really want anything to do with you guys As he got older he became a little closer to his father once he was able to visit him himself Right But it wasn't like he became closer to him It was kind of just like he tried to have a real ship with him And I think his father was just kind of like there, but not there. It was one of those things. It's like I don't know

It wasn't really healthy situation. He was socially kind of introverted and very isolated and very isolating, but he was also very intelligent. And he could put on a normal face, like he could go to work and people thought he was a pretty normal guy. He might have been a little quiet, but like, it's probably kind of like, how probably how people see me. When I go to like work and stuff, I was gonna say that, but then I didn't want to offend you.

No, it's true. Like, some people are like that normal. And like, some people have this really dark side to them otherwise, but it's like, I think it's how people probably see me. It's like, well, yeah. I'm fairly quiet, but I'm not like weird quiet. Yeah, well you are creepy, but yeah, but like none, I'm gonna kill you, I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, but uh, so yeah, but uh, but again, like I said, he was very intelligent, very articulate, he was also very athletic and very vain, very vain. Okay. And that became bigger later, which we'll talk about. When he was a teenager, he kind of got a little rebellious, not like anything crazy, but he actually became... He became a new shit. Yeah, but then he actually became kind of, kind of like a good graffiti artist. Oh, I remember hearing that, yeah.

Yeah, like he was actually kind of like very skilled at it. Which it's like, I think graffiti is really cool. It's a cool skill to have. And it's a very unique skill to have. Like if you handed me a spray paint bottle right now, I'd be like, I have no idea what to do with this. Like it's very unique for someone to actually know what to do with a spray paint bottle.

But yeah, so he kind of so he kind of became like known for that around. But in 1995, when he was 16, he was arrested for it. Yeah, see, it's like a cool skill to have, but you can't vandalize. Yeah, it's just not one of those things. Yeah, it's not an easy skill to have. Yeah. Now this, he was just like kind of detained. He got a minor record for it, but it's just kind of one of those things. If you saw that on someone's record,

you'd be like, whatever, man. He was 16. I was gonna say it, especially at 16. It's like, okay. And it's non-violent. It's like, who would care? Well, this is when his father just stepped away and disowned him.

That was it. He just never spoke to his father again. That was it. Oh, it was a graffiti. Yeah, over him like getting in trouble with the law. I mean, I guess it makes sense because it's father. Well, it doesn't make sense to walk away from your kid ever, but but it was kind of an excuse, I think, for example. Yeah, it was easy out. Yeah. And Anders was very into being like a tough guy. Like he was a super toxic masculinity kind of dude like he hated feminism. Oh like just very he was into himself like I said he worked out a ton he wanted to have that image of a man you know what missed like day exactly Exactly. And what he thought a man was.

You know what I mean? Like not? Yeah. Yeah. It was like his version of like the most masculine dude. He could be... But then what's funny is he had this very like macho man thing, but he referred to himself as a metrosexual. And he was very vain.

Very vain. Okay. So he had like a very... Which I suppose like metrosexual kind of goes hand in hand with like very being very like taking care of your body. Yeah, very strong and you know, I mean like so I get it but it's like kind of a funny dichotomy. That is a dichotomy for sure. Yeah He eventually got into steroids, which probably didn't help the situation. Oh, that's not good. Because he already had a very like fucked up psyche.

So, adding steroids into the equation is not a great idea. That's going to make you real mad. Yeah, and he was clearly abusing them. So, in his early 20s, he had a ton of plastic surgery on his face because he wanted to be prettier. Oh.

He also wanted to look more Aryan. So, he got like a nose job. He got a chin job. This dude is the worst. I was waiting to say it and then I was like okay, this sealed the deal for a minute. Yeah, he's truly the worst. He had blonde hair and ice blue eyes, like you know, a lot of Norwegian people are absolutely gorgeous. You know, I mean, like you think of like Elsa from Frozen and the exact What it all is and he's oh he had those features those very Norwegian features which are very like ice and beautiful But he wanted to like exaggerate them so he like wanted to be as like

Streamlined as possible so he like died his hair more blonde and like just wanted to be that Home he was committing to the cause. Yeah he really was. And he again he was very vain, which like I'm not gonna tell anyone they can't do anything with their face that makes them happy, but this is just you know part of his pathology. Right. He did try to join the Norwegian Army at one point, but he wasn't accepted because of his run-ins with the law when he was a teenager. That sucks. Yeah I mean it's just one of those things. But I'll say, I don't like him, so. Yeah, so he was described as, and he described himself as a right-wing Christian extremist.

He had a hatred of Muslims in Islam. I'm not cool with that. He, like I said, he hated feminism and feminists. He became a member of the progress party Which is a right wing party that is all was all too happy to have his view views on board with them because They were very anti-immigration. No, they really wanted to drive Muslims out of Europe. No, not okay Their views on immigration really appealed to him. That was like the biggest thing that really because as we'll see He's very focused on one his hatred of Muslims and two his hatred of any kind of like multicultural

Landscape being brought into Europe and into Norway specifically. He wanted to keep you more way Yeah, he wanted to keep Norway, no region. That's it. Like, he doesn't want anyone else in there. I don't get that kind of mindset. I don't need, he's, I mean, essentially, he's a xenophobe. That's exactly. So at age 23 in 2002, he did start his own computer programming business because again, he's very smart. A lot of criminals are really smart. It's very unfortunate that he's so smart. It's like such a wasted brain. He ended up using it to sell fake diplomas,

and it fell apart in 2006. It's so random. You would think of somebody who was like super smart, you wouldn't want to like sell fake diplomas and cheat people out of that. Yeah, not him, he was all too happy to. The worst. Throughout his 20 him, he was so too happy to. The worst. Throughout his 20s, he was pretty quiet.

I mean, not a lot happened. The computer programming didn't happen, but like, he wasn't getting into trouble. He worked with people who said again, that he was a pretty normal guy. They were like, he was likeable, we talk to him. Very smart, very articulate. It must be, it's so weird for those people.

Like, could you imagine if you knew somebody and you were like, oh yeah, Joe was pretty quiet, but we chatted every now and then and then you're like, oh fuck. And that's what we'll find out at the end. A lot of people were like, what now? It's one of those situations where people heard his name after this massacre and were like, no. Like what?

I feel like especially with massacres and shootings that happens a lot. Yeah, because it's like it snaps like suddenly. Yeah. And actually, no one he worked with or really was acquainted with really knew the extent of his like crazy ass views on immigration and like people knew he was like right wing and they knew like he could be a little like conspiracy theoristy and like all that but they were kind of just like whatever. Like he doesn't push it on us. Right.

He's not aggressive about it, at least to them. But he was, nobody, literally. So nobody, little did they know he was being aggressive about it and is like plotting scheming cranium. Exactly. And so yeah, he just really not a lot happened. It was age 26. He ended up moving back in with his mom because after

the computer programming business fell apart, he kind of lost all his money. Oh, okay. This is when he became very, very isolated. He was playing video games like Call of Duty and World of Warcraft, like going into fantasy worlds. He would play video games sometimes up to 17 hours a day. Okay, like I'm here to tell you that's too much. That's too much. That's too much. Because I personally, I never play video games and it's only because I don't have any time to play video games.

I want time to do anything really. But when I remember when my husband and I were dating and stuff and like before we had kids, we would play video games sometimes and I love video games. Yeah, that's fun I would love to play video games But fuck me if I'm gonna sit there for 17 hours. No, and play a video game I don't have the attention span to do anything for 17 hours straight like at all No, I got to take my mind out of somewhere else I remember playing this video game

I love to know and it's called heavy rain and it's like about a serial killer who kills during heavy rainfall You used to play that on your fucking while you play all video games on your TV. I saw yeah, I'm gonna leave now I wanted like you used to play that on your TV. It was crazy. That's where you play video games But yeah, I really don't play a lot of video games. If you want to play an awesome video game, heavy rain was rad. And that actually was a really cool game. That was fun. It was fun.

Yeah, and it's a serial killer game. So it's on brand, so go check it out. And again, I don't believe, like I'm one of those people who does not believe that video games turn you into, like, no, like you're either an aggressive piece of shit to begin with and maybe it just like, it sends you one step from the paper hats. Yeah, but it definitely doesn't create these people. Um, mentioning that he played this much video game, it was just basically like he's just

very isolated. Right. And he does say later that he used games like Call of Duty and World of War, like mainly Call of Duty as like training, which absolutely terrifying. Or what he thought was training because it's like, honey, you really think that training on Call of Duty is gonna prepare you for like actually going into war

or something like that, like go talk to an actual soldier. Right. But it's like, yeah, no. So he was also, he became like a huge germaphob at one point. Oh yeah, I heard about that. Yeah, like he was wearing a mask all the time, which is funny to say now. Yeah, like he just became like crazy about it. And I mean, this is again just part of his pathology it's just interesting that's very I wonder what like made that happen all of a sudden yeah he just has like a very weird way about him he has very sudden life choices it seems

he does very extreme life choices I was just gonna say sudden extreme choices yeah he's very much like all-enething this is so this time when he's very isolated he's not doing much he's is so this time when he's very isolated, he's not doing much, he's not working. This is when he began what he called his manifesto. I feel like those never start back good. All of these little fucking cowardly dick wads all have a manifesto. That's always what they have. And it's like, no, this is just your word vomit of like this is your diary. Yeah, this is your bitchy little diary

that you're just calling a manifesto. Like I too could pull out some of my high school diaries and be like, my manifesto. It's just me being a whiny little bitch. Yeah, it's such a pretentious way of you just being a bitch. Yeah. So he started keeping a journal of all his plans that he Yeah, it's such a pretentious way of you just being a bitch. Yeah. So he started keeping a journal of all his plans that he had because all of a sudden he's getting all these plans that he's going to take back, he's going to take back Norway. He's

going to save the Norwegian people. That was his plan. Oh God. And they're like, that's so sad too because they're like, no, no, thank you. Like, meanwhile, Norway's like, no, we good. We're happy as we are. We're very fine. We're actually doing better than a lot of the world. So, yeah, it's universal. Right. So in 2009, he did travel to the Czech Republic to purchase weapons.

When you got back, can you get weapons in Norway? They're like a no weapon place, right? No, you can. Oh, you can. Yeah. When he got to back to Norway, actually, he got a gun license and bought a Ruger Mini 14 rifle. Oh, I should have just shut up and waited for you to say.

Sorry. He got this by claiming that he was starting to hunt, which I guess in Norway, you have to like say, the way to get one of those is to like use it for hunting. Okay. So that's what he was saying he was using. He also got a nine millimeter Glock. Jesus Christ.

And in 2011, he moved out of his mom's apartment and moved into a very, which is strange. So he moved, he was like a city kid. Like, this kid grew up in the city. Right, and all of a sudden he moves onto a very isolated farm in Rina, which is in Eastern Norway. Interesting.

This, he had tons, he was getting tons of fertilizer deliveries, which we all know what he was doing with that. And he said he was, he wanted to be a veggie farmer out of nowhere. And everybody was like, you have not spent one second of your life on a farm. You just suddenly bought a farm and now are deciding to be a farmer. And you don't know anything about it. I've never even seen you eat a fucking carrot, dude. I'm kidding.

Oh, and there's, you don't know a potato from a root of bag. I get out of here. I don't know why there's something in all of a sudden. I was like, that's not correct. I don't know. I just, I felt it. I went with it. I can never do a correct accent.

Apparently, I can't either. I can't even do a Boston accent properly, and I've lived my whole life. So I guess his neighbors were also like, the student is weird. Like, I don't know, he just isn't a farmer. Like, this is real weird. So he also boarded up all the fucking windows in this farmhouse. Yo, if you live next to somebody that's boarded up all their windows,

it's time for you to move out. It's time for you to medal with like metal like start questioning start calling authorities start just being like just in the ass neighbor just dip I'm gonna. I just can't So again people are like that's weird When he was there that's when he used this, not to farm, I know that shocked you. I know everybody's like, what, he didn't farm? God, he didn't become a vegetable farmer? No, he used this time to order a ton of fertilizer,

which was not going to the farm. He was going to make bombs and explosives. He was also training every day. He was working out like crazy because he had a big old farm to train on. Oh shit. So he was getting super buff and super scary. It's so scary how planned out this was.

Yeah. And this was a long game. And he was like, and he was ready to, in his words, save the people of Norway. Because this whole time, all he keeps saying is that he just loves his, he loves Norway. That's wild. He just wants to. That in his mind he's like a hero. Oh yeah. He, in his mind he even said, years from now, I will be revered as a hero. Right now I will suffer for this, but people will look back and know that I was a hero. And it's like, oh honey, no. That's a wow. That's a lot of wow so the fateful day is July 22nd 2011 at

209 p.m. he emailed his bullshit manifesto to a bunch of people that he thought would like it like neo-nazis and like right wing extremist groups and you know other people that he thought would share his ideologies. A little after 3 p.m. Anders got dressed up like a police officer. Oh, and a form. Yeah, he even had police ID. Wow. He really put on the fake diplomas. Yeah, exactly.

You can do anything. Exactly. The sky's the limit So he parked a white van that he had rented Outside of the build the housing office of prime minister jen's stilton berg and I hope I said that right Please tell me norwegian people if I didn't Um, that's in the government district of Os, and he had already parked another car a short distance away. He parked that van in front of the Prime Minister's office, then he walked over to the other car,

and he just drove away from the scene. Oh, God. So at approximately 3.26 p.m., a 900 kg fertilizer bomb exploded from that van. Whoa. Over 200 people were injured. Eight people were killed in this bombing. The entire block was completely destroyed. There's surveillance video of it, and it's like a war zone. Oh, I can't even imagine.

It's horrific. These kind of things really like fuck with you, because it's like people just living and it's like when you're just going about your day to day life never assuming that anything like that is going to happen and it's in an instant it's within a blink of your eye it's just gone and it's like in devastation it's awful it really is it's awful and it's just such a fucking coward's way out. Oh, it is. It's literally, it's like the saying you drop in the bomb and walk it away. It's like when somebody will do that in like an argument or something. And I use that all the time.

I'm always like, Oh, you're just dropping the bomb and walking away. And it's like, that's exactly what it is. It's essentially being like you cowardly fuck. You just drop your your your mode of destruction. And then you walk away from the scene. So what it is. It's essentially being like you cowardly fuck. You just drop your Your mode of destruction and then you walk away from the scene It's like what a hero. Yeah, exactly you go So because shit like this doesn't happen in Norway like this doesn't happen in Norway. Norway is a happy place They were trying to respond the best way they could but again, they're not you said that she had something like that. It's like when a small town gets some crazy ass murder. It's hard to permit them doesn't know. Yeah, it's hard for them to just, you know, adapt to it because they're not used to it happening. When you have nothing to compare it to,

it's not like, oh, we can do ABC and D like we did with this. It's like, yeah, there's no precedence. Right. So their idea was to evacuate the city, which is good, but they didn't, but they didn't seal it off first. Oh, okay. So this meant people could leave. This meant, Anders could leave. Right. A state of emergency was called in Oslo. The king got all units of the police force on this shit. I mean, it went. They did the best they could as fast as they could. They immediately thought this was clearly a terrorist attack. Right.

It looked like the work of a suicide bomber to them, so they were thinking that's what it was. One tip from a civilian came through and they said, something weird that they saw on all the chaos was they saw a police officer exiting the city. And they they said that's weird to me because all the other first responders were running towards the city. Right. So it was weird to me that one was exiting. Right. Luckily they have that surveillance video of the scene and it showed the White Vans license plate which remember was rented. Right. And it was

rented under Anders Vibravic names. So boom. They know who he is now. Right. And it was rented under Anders Vittbravik names. So boom, they know who he is now. Right. That's all well and fine. But after the bombing, Anders had taken a short ferry ride to Utoia Island. This is Island is approximately 20 miles from Oslo. You have to take a ferry there. He got on the ferry dressed as a police officer with his police ID, everything. He told the people on the ferry, like the workers on there. He said, I'm being sent to the island to protect them. And he said, because you guys heard about the bombing, right? And they were like, yeah. And he's like, well, I'm from a special tactical unit. And basically, the bombing was in front of the prime minister and the ruling party in Norway

was the labor party. And on this island of Utoya was a youth camp that was a labor party youth camp. So these were kids of labor party members. So he was saying, you know, there's a bombing in front of the prime minister's office. I he was saying, you know, there's a bombing in front of the Prime Minister's office. I, we think this might be connected. I'm going there to help to protect these kids, just in case. The, no.

Like to have the, I don't, the co-hoonies to even say that like I'm going to, I, Durandas, those are the, the co-hoonies. The co-hoonies. But to have the co-hoonies to say that, like to be like, I'm going to protect these kids, but in your mind, you know that you're going to kill all of them. You're going to slaughter children.

What happens in your brain? I just don't get it. Oh, and it gets even work. Because the fairy guy was like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. He's like, why are you alone? Well, and he's like, you're dressed in complete tactical gear. Sure. Why not? that makes sense. He's almost in... Why are you alone? Well, and he's like, you're dressed in complete tactical gear, sure. Like, why not, that makes sense. Well, and he probably thought, you know,

this is an island, it's hard to get to. Maybe they just sent this one guy out there just to calm their nerves, but like, no one's going out there. Like, they would have to take us for a first. It's just not your... Yeah, and the fairy guys, like, they would have to take this fairy to get

over there. Right. So I'm not worried about it, but I'm sure the kids on the island might need some just to look at a police officer and feel better. So meanwhile, so the fairy guys like okay that makes sense, but then the fairy guy was like, I did notice that this guy had an iPod. And I thought that was weird that a police officer had an iPod. Like, but he was like, weird, okay, like whatever. And then meanwhile, Anders was blasting Luxe Eterna by Clint Mansell at Max Volume through the entire thing. And he had actually written that he would do this in his manifesto. Like he was saying, I want to hear this song blasting in my iPod the entire time.

Now, if you don't know what that song is, I wanted, I wish I could play it on the, on the podcast, but I can't afford to. But I could copy right for that song. If you've seen Requiem for a dream, that's the song. It's like, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. And it's this like, it's a, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do And you think of that blasting in his ears while it's happening. It's it's a true Fuckin it's a dark dark thing. I hate when people ruin good songs like with doing like horrible shit I know I yeah like when um what's her name there?

Hungry like a wolf. Yeah ruined. Yeah sucks sucks. So like I said he was going to Uttoya Island which is an island in the I'm gonna try to pronounce these as best I can. The Tyriffi Jordan Lake in the whole municipality. It's in the county of Vikin in Norway and the teens that were attending this labor party youth camp were between the ages of like 16 to 22, I think. Okay. Somewhere as young as 13. All. Most of them were under 18.

The camp was a place for them to network and socialize. They held debates. They had discussions. They were leadership opportunities. But it was also just like a summer camp. It was like they had swimmers around the campfire. They did camp things. And they all were the kids of labor party members.

And so it was just a bondging thing. Yeah. It was, it's a huge deal in Norway, like to go to this camp. It's like, I guess it's kind of like a ride-a-passage kind of thing. And activists in the Labor Party have attended the camps since the 1950s. Oh, wow. I think it's Monia or Monica. I can't remember. Bowsick was the leader of the camp at this time.

The weather this day on the 22nd had been shitty. It was kind of like rainy and gross. But by the afternoon it was clearing up. So all of a sudden everybody was second-side for most of the day and everybody was coming outside. They're all relaxing on the lawns, playing games. The Bozik had stopped everyone because everyone was outside, so she had kind of gathered everyone and kind of made a formal announcement to be like, a bombing has occurred just so you all know. Oh no. Kind of thing. So they all had campfires lit and remembrance and like a vigil. Wow.

Yeah. They handed out candy and just tried to like comfort each other. That's really sweet. And this is the sad thing. They had that a whole room, like horrifically sad scene. And meanwhile, they had no fucking idea what was about to happen. Well, that really ruins me. So when Anders got there, they all saw him and they were like,

cool, a police officer. He's here to protect us. Then he pulled out a suitcase. The suitcase was full of his weapons. This location of Utoia was chosen obviously for a variety of reasons. It was the youth camp for the labor party, number one, who he disagreed greatly with the labor party's ideas on immigration. He was very against this party.

This island is also isolated. It's an island. So there's very little chance for victims to escape. They're very easy targets Because he's a twitchy little coward and also probably the most disturbing reason was that he knew this would be the thing To really make the biggest impact with his statement because he's figured taking away the children Of these people that I disagree with is going to be the thing that hurts them the most. Oh my god.

And he said that. He was like, I am going to hit them where it hurts the most. I'm going to take their children from them. That's for your, I've said it like six times during this episode, but for your mind to go there and to think that way, I just, it's so hard to wrap your brain around. It's impossible. It really is. So at 5.21 pm, he arrived on the island and he immediately opened fire.

No, no, no. Immediately he kills the first two people he sees. He walked around mowing down innocent people as he went just indiscriminately. Kids are running around trying to get away, but it's a fucking island. And it's surrounded by the icy deep water of the fjord. Right, so, I mean, that water's freezing, and it's treacherous. There's no escaping this. There's no escaping, and these kids are, I mean, this must have been mayhem, absolute mayhem.

It's like, where do you go? There's nowhere to go. There's nowhere to go. You are literally buying time just running around this island. That's so... Anyone who hit was shot most of the people were shot at Point Blank Range.

She's... She was right. He was literally following terrified teenagers into tents and just shooting them directly in the tent. And was literally chasing people down like animals. And they said the entire time, he's, the kids, all the survivors said that all he was doing the whole time was screaming at them.

Like screaming, you're gonna die, I'm gonna kill you today. Like, my God. Yeah. And he was calling them fascists and like, yeah, it was just craziness. One victim, so a lot of these victims ended up calling their parents, obviously,

because they're teenagers, they're kids. So they're calling their parents to be like, I don't know what to do, this is happening. Like what the hell am I, or their parents are calling them, being like, are you okay? Right. One victim called her father who was a police captain

and she told him what was happening. Immediately they connected the two because they were both an attack on the labor party obviously. So now investigators and intelligent officials were having to go through all 1500 pages of his bullshit manifesto to be like what is he doing? They saw all the stuff about him hating the labor party and now, you know, he hated left-wing politics. He said Muslims would control Europe in 20 years and he wasn't going to let that happen. After looking into this, they also found a video he had posted to YouTube

talking about all his prep for these attacks. They told, so at one point, he's walking around the island Sometimes he would burst into a run sometimes he would just casually walk around and just boom shoot everybody I don't even know what's scarier. Oh, yeah, and his his whole thing was he was like I wanted to kill all 600 people on that island. Of course, I did And he probably could have if it if they didn't come to stop him. Right. So at one point, he told a group, because again, some of the island is hearing these gunshots,

but not seeing what's happening. Right. So then a police officer appears and they're thinking, oh, good, it's a police officer. What's happening? But it's this motherfucker. But meanwhile, so he shows up to a group of teenagers and he's like, I'm a police officer. I'm here to help this someone shooting on the other side of the island get into the cafeteria and take cover And it's like a group of 13 of them

So he gets them into the cafeteria and he's like, all right I'm gonna go find out what's going on you guys stay here safe and they're like great And then he just turns around and kills all 13 of them as they huddle thinking they're safe. And he did this a lot. There was a lot of moments where he would literally mow down like a group of them after he huddled them into a place.

The darkness that that takes years, like, soul, like, what the fuck? And in his trial, he talked about, like, minute by minute, what happened? Like, he gave, gave like gruesome details and Like a super out of all. He said quote some of them are completely paralyzed. They cannot run. They stand totally still This is something they never show on TV. It was very strange. Oh Okay, and it's like bitch. This isn't TV like what right?

What? Bitch, this isn't TV. Like what? Right. So he ended up going, he's continuing to go around the island. He's literally luring kids out of hiding places by being like, I'm a police officer. I'm here to protect you. That's so fucked up. And when they would come out,

think trusting an authority figure, right, they would, he would just shoot them in the face. Oh my god. Some teenagers were finding like a couple of old robots and they're trying to get away that way. Others were just jumping into the freezing fjord and trying to swim. Right.

A lot of them were finding out very quickly that they weren't going to be able to swim because it was a long way to shore. And it was freezing waters, and they had been running for their fucking lives. So you're exhausted. In complete terror. So it's like their bodies just weren't gonna make it.

So they ended up turning around and having to get back on shore. That's like a nightmare. Imagine having to make that decision. It's like to come to our realization. Yeah, do I drown in the freezing fjord or do I get back on shore and try to like outmaneuver this crazy gunman It's like no teenager should have to say to make that decision between the ages of like 13 and 18 like

Well, and while these kids are trying to make this decision or just coming back on shore He calmly walks down to the shore screaming down into the water that he's going to kill all of them. And he's just picking them off while they're coming in from the water. Oh my god. Yeah. So 30 minutes into this whole ordeal, he took a cell phone from one of the victims and called the police. And he was basically like, hey, I'm onders. I'm at the, I'm part of like the anti-communist movement. I'm on Utoia Island and I'd like to surrender now.

Click and just, but they were like, we can't get there. So they're trying to get there. And he knows this. He knows they can't just suddenly appear on the island. So he's like, fuck, I'm just gonna fuck with them. And they're like, oh, I'd like to surrender. He had no intentions of surrendering. That's so fucked up.

Yeah. And he intentionally didn't give any more information because as his manifesto stated, he was planning to try to contact police and negotiate hostage situations, ran some money like all this stuff, but in reality, he was just gonna keep killing until he had killed everyone on that island.

And it was basically just a diversion tactic. Exactly. So soon, locals around the island are hearing screaming and gunshots and chaos, like locals that are living outside of the island. Yeah. And they start seeing kids swimming in the water, frantically and screaming for help. So they started sending their own boats, like getting into their own boats to try to grab people sending their own boats, like getting into their own boats to try to grab people from the water. Right. And Norway is like the shit, man. Because like these people are just like, fuck the world, I'm gonna go save.

We're here to help. Yeah, like no thought of their own. Um, people just came out, were snatching up kids out of the water, just with no regard for their own safety. It's awesome. That's incredible. I feel like there's not a lot of places where that would happen. Yeah, it just makes sense for Norway to do that.

I'm like, yeah, it does. So soon Norway, the counter terrorism unit, I think they're called Delta was deployed, if I'm wrong about that, by all means, tell me. He said, so Anders had said his goal, like I said before, was to kill everyone on the island. He said he actually thought about wearing a swastika on his chest.

And he was planning to do that just to be scary. Like he was just, what the fuck? Yeah, he was just gonna do it for the fear factor alone. But then he said he decided not to do it because he was like, I didn't want everybody to just assume I was a Nazi. Like I was like, you were worried about them judging you? Like, what? Or you see, that's real weird for sure.

So now the counterterrorism task force is trying to get to the island as quickly as possible and this is no easy task. At the moment, kids are, because at this point, it's been forever. Kids are texting their parents. Goodbyes. Like, oh, God, that's always the saddest part of these stories. Whenever that happens in a story, it destroys me. Because just being, can you imagine how helpless it must feel to be that parent getting that text message? Or to have to type out that message and hope you said everything that you wanted to

Exactly And it kind of made me think of like the pulse nightclub shooting I think of like all those poor people like this is they they're like this is my final moment on earth What who do I tell what and who do I tell my feelings to and what should I tell them? It's just awful. So at this point, they're thinking that there's multiple shooters. That's what they were assuming because there's so much damage being done. Yeah, there's so much destruction and chaos. Bravik had said that he studied attacks by Alcada. He studied the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center to get his ideas for this whole thing. Like, you studied that? Like what? Yeah, and it makes sense because they're thinking this is multiple shooters, multiple terrorists creating all this chaos because the bombing and now this.

And it's like, he studied up on those things so he could make it look like it was more than one person. That's so far. And he also said that he read more than 600 bomb making guides to make the perfect bomb. By 6 p.m., over 40 people were dead on the island. He was locating a bunch of groups just hiding out, mowing them down all at once like I said like he was really containing large clusters of teenagers just to get them all gone at once. It was horrific

So at 6.10 pm There was a group that was trying to hide. I believe by like a pump house I think it's called and they were trying to hide. I believe by like a pump house, I think it's called. And they were trying to hide. They said, um, people around them said that they saw a police officer approach them and were like, huddled together. You're going to be safe. He waited until they were huddled together in the pump house and he shot them all dead. Oh my god. Um, officials from the counterterrorism unit got into a small dinghy boat and they were heading over to the island, but they put too many people in this dinghy boat and it started taking on water.

Oh my god! Because again Norway is a magical place and locals just, and they were not used to this. They don't know what they're supposed to do. Yeah, they're trying to get there as soon as you're doing your best. As quickly as possible they're doing what they can with what they got to work with. And then again, be why Norway is a magical place with magical people. Locals saw this dinghy taking on water and they sent out their own boats, civilian boats, to go save these dudes and bring them to the shore. So they were, so they were risking their own lives bringing these counterterrorism officials

to the front lines of this absolute war zone with no regard for their own safety, just we need to get them there to save these people. We need to help. That's wild. Like to be that selfless in a time of such fucking absolute chaos. Exactly.

And to be able to take action like that. Like to not be paralyzed in fear because a lot of people, rightfully so, I mean, it's a time of panic. You see this boat taking on water and there's just chaos on this island, you might just be paralyzed with fear and be like, I don't know what the fuck you did.

I can't help. It's a true test of fighter flight. It's so true. So soon the counterterrorism unit got to the island, they surrounded Bravick. They ordered him to put down his weapons, but he refused. So immediately they gave the order to shoot him dead. But right before the order was carried out, he surrendered. He dropped all his shit.

At approximately 6.27 pm, he was taken into custody by members of the Elite Norwegian police unit. I'm like glad though that they didn't end up shooting him. Oh, I'm so glad. Yeah. Because as you'll find out, he does not like prison. So good. He had killed 69 people on the island. Wow.

The ages of the victims were as young as 13, but most were under 18. That's so sad. Parents were still calling their children as the recovery process began. So it reminds me again of the pulse shooting. They said, on the other side, you have no idea what's going on.

Well, and they said, the eerie sound of cell phones ringing out on that island. Oh, wow. It was all you could hear. Actual chills. And I remember in the Pulse Nightclub shooting, the first responders said when they walked in,

when everything was cleared, it was dead silent. And all you could hear was cell phones buzzing and going off because it was just family members trying to get a hold of their dead family member. And a lot of first responders said that was like, which you don't think of that. And they came out and said, Oh, like it was the most disturbing and like,

life altering moment to hear that and to see all these things. Because you're seeing like hope, just being dashed right in front of you. Right. And it was the same thing with this. So the entire attack lasted one hour and 13 minutes. That's a really fucking wall. It's an eternity. That is insane. higher attack lasted one hour and 13 minutes.

That's a really fucking wall. It's an eternity. That is insane. I feel like a lot of attacks are typically pretty short. Yeah, they're quick. They fizzle out, but this was an eternity. Think about an hour and 13 minutes trying to run around an island away from a crazy shooter.

No. The victims that were surviving were air transported to hospitals in Oslo and then they started identifying the dead. At a local hotel they gathered up the parents of all the campers and they basically were waiting at that hotel waiting to see as buses came up, waiting to see if their kids were survivors on the bus. They weren't on the bus. Oh, that's the most, yeah, that's one of the most horrific things. I can't even imagine being that parent.

And that's the thing. It's like as the other parents probably obviously want to celebrate when they see their kid. And it's like, but you look to your left and though that family still waiting for theirs, I can't imagine feeling like the survivor guilt. Right, absolutely. So Anders was totally calm and cool when he was arrested. And of course he was polite and calm

because this was his moment now. He was arrested alive, which was his plan. And he was now able to tell the world why he did what he did. Right, because that's the whole reason he did it in the first place up. Exactly. That's why he wrote his stupid ass manifesto, because he just wants to tell the world and he wants to shove all his views down everyone's throat.

I don't know if you just heard that. That was my eyes rolling to the back of my head and shooting straight out your skull. Yeah. So people, like I said before before were absolutely shocked to find out who the shooter was because they were like he was real polite and real on a swimming and we had no idea. These people worked with him. Yeah, they were like we did not know he was a total xenophobe like crazy person. So according to his manifesto, he did this like I, simply because in his mind he was saving the Norwegian people from the Muslims.

He thought the labor party and their immigration policies were the reason that Norway was in trouble because they were creating a multicultural society and diluting the true Norwegian culture. What a nightmare. I love that he's like, it's like, how? He's like, it's really gross that they're creating a multicultural society. Like it's just bad. Well, most places are like striving to do that. It's like, why would you not want that? Maybe they're not, but you would hope that they are starting to do that. Yeah, it's like, that's not a bad thing. Right, that's a great thing. In his manifesto, he had outlined in great detail,

line by line, what he hated about specific cultures. And like I said before, his plano, he had outlined in great detail line by line what he hated about specific cultures. And like I said before, his plan was, I'm going to take their kids away from them and show them that they're wrong. Also, I mean, I don't understand like hating something about some of the else's culture really, but it's like, then just don't practice. Exactly. It's like, you don't have to be part of it.

Is it directly affecting you? No. Yeah. And, well, Andres had said that as a, as like a, you know, as an offshoot of all this, he was like, you know, Norwegian men are turning into sissies. And he said they were, quote, feminized, cooking food and showing emotions. Dear God. The just horrible. I'm taking on my fan because I'm just, he just thwarped. So he said also when asked if he had any remorse, he said no, and he said I would do it all over again if I got the chance. He should run prison for the rest of his life.

And he called it the most spectacular attack since World War I. Okay, like, like get out of here. There's no spectacular attacks, you sick fox. Well, in two weeks after he was arrested, he was taking, taken back to the island where he, they had him walk through until them the exact timeline of events. And he was... Obviously, they had to do that, but I wish that they didn't because he was probably fucking so excited. Oh yeah, he was all too happy to tell them everything. In all his glory.

And it was another moment where he could sit there and be like, and because of this, I did this. Like he was very like, you know, grandstanding. He needs to be in solitary and not allowed to talk to any of you. Yeah, he is in solitary, so that's fun. April 15th, 2012. He's in court. He was often smirking and smiling in court. And he did a Nazi salute or a closed fist salute

to the families of the victims right before he went up to the stand. That's horrific. And there's a picture of him doing it. I would have been like, you can't take the stand then. Yeah, he's got only knows what you're gonna say on the stand if you just fucking did that And he used it as a way to again spout his shit to traumatize them. Yeah So July 25th

2011 he attended his first official court hearing which was closed He asked if he could wear a uniform to court and they were like no He asked if he could wear a uniform to court and they were like no uniform He also wanted to read from his manifesto during the court hearing and they were like no No, and then he also claimed that he was working with two other cells of terrorists which he was not He's just a bullshitter. He's just trying to scare people. So August 19th 2011 the families of the victims visited Utoia Island That must have been

absolutely horrific. November 14th, 2011, more than 500 people attended his court hearing. This one was open to the public. He said he had delivered a speech, but he was not allowed to read it. Good. And the judge ordered him held in custody for another 12 weeks. Good. He did undergo a psychiatric evaluation to tell whether he was sane during the event.

He was diagnosed initially as a paranoid schizophrenic. But people were like, no, I don't think so. I don't buy that. And everyone who knew him said he showed absolutely no signs of anything that would even resemble paranoid schizophrenia. Right. He also didn't agree with the evaluation and said he was perfect. He said himself.

I was perfectly sane and did not suffer from anything like that. Do you think they were just trying to give the public an answer? I don't know. Somewhat. Because then they ordered a second evaluation. And that was ordered January 13, 2012. Judge went, I might butcher this name, I'm sorry. When she Elizabeth Arnson, they said that they were

going to get a second opinion. And it was found he did not suffer from paranoid schizophrenia. They said he was sane during the attacks. He was diagnosed with a narcissistic personality disorder. There it is. It makes a lot more sense. There it is. And again, he was deemed sane. So March 7th 2012, he was formally charged with committing acts of terror in voluntary homicide. April 17th of the same year, Judge Thomas Indrebo was disqualified and taken off the case because he went online and said

that the death penalty should be the punishment for him. Norway does not have the death penalty. Right. But he was taken off the case for that. That stinks. I know. Survivors are not really wrong. I don't right. So survivors gave victim impact statements. They you know they sat there. They cried in front of him. They they talked about their last text messages and phone calls. They had with their children. None of this did anything for Anders. He literally showed no remorse, no affect at all. He he just smirked, smiled at them sometimes, like he

was a piece of shit. Yeah, he's a straight-up sociopath. He was found guilty of the murders of 77 people. He was found guilty of mass murder, terrorism, causing a fatal explosion. He got the max sentence in Norway, which is 21 years in solitary confinement. That's it. Yeah, and a minimum of 10. Wow. So, his prison cell is like a dorm room.

Because also, like European prisons are very different from American prisons. Even prisons in Canada are a lot different. There's obviously a big difference to wherever you go, but like American prisons are for sure much different. He had a television, he has a computer, no access to the internet, but he has a computer. He has books.

He needs to have a computer. He has like, it's a very cushy experience. But in 2016, he sued the corrections facility because he said solitary confinement violated his basic human rights. Yeah, you don't have basic human rights anymore. How about that? You're an asshole. He lost March 15, 2016. He appeared for, that's where he appeared for the first day of his lawsuit, which he filed against the Norwegian State. He said his human rights had been violated during his incarceration period. April 20th, he won part of that lawsuit.

How about the human rights you took away from all the people you murdered? Yeah, well the Oslo District Court said that his treatment in prison violated Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights which prohibits inhumane or degrading treatment. And it said that his conditions needed to be eased up. Does he need a bigger TV? Like that infuriates me and a lot of people were really angry with this. Should we put a hot tub in the red carpet? Should we have a masseuse come to your quarters every other day?

Would you like a memory foam mattress? Like what the fuck? Well the good thing is March 1st, 2017, an appeals court overturned the lower court ruling and said that those conditions have not been in human. They're fine. June 8th, 2017, Norway's Supreme Court said that it will not hear his case over inhumane prison conditions. So they were like, they're like, fuck yeah, they were literally like, do go fuck yourself. Right. Bye. June 21st, 2018, the European Court of Human Rights rejected his appeal about his conditions of his imprisonment

because he kept pushing. Like, what do you want? He basically said that isolation was inhuman and like, it was giving him isolation headaches and like, you isolated yourself on a farm. A couple of the other things that he complained about. And this is no joke. This is not an onion article.

It was like the food. He complained about the use of plastic cups and paper plates. He complained about having to eat microwave meals. The horror. He complained about cold coffee. He complained about being denied the right to meet fellow Nazi friends and possibly marry one. He also was real mad that they would not allow him to publish

two books, one called The Bravik Diaries, and the other one called The Nordic State. Yeah, nope. Sorry, not sorry. And then in a article on BBC.com, they literally said one of the things he complained about was he had begun to love a reality TV show, Paradise Hotel, and it says, quote, clear evidence of serious brain damage caused by isolation. Oh my god. That's really funny. So that's funny. In 2017, he actually changed his name to Fjolthoff Hansen. And why?

What's funny is Fjolthoff means idiot in Old Norwegian. Doesn't he know that? Yeah, I don't know, but nobody really knows why he wanted to change it to that from like Anders. Why do you want to? Anders to idiot. Yeah, I guess. I mean, he is an idiot. So there was, and you know, in a little lighter news, the moon, there was a memorial created for the Otoi of the Island victims. And this is actually a really like heavy memorial, but it's like, it means a lot. I mean, it makes sense.

It depicts the last text messages that victims sent to their loved ones. So after each text message, there's a victim's name who sent the text message and then their time of death. Wow. And it's like real, like even thinking about it, I just got like chills.

I was gonna say soda dog. Yeah, and it's also surrounding the cafe where a lot of the victims were killed. The building itself, there's 69 support beams that they put out there to represent each of those killed in the massacre and they are supported by 499 thinner beams which represents each of those who managed to escape Wow, that's like very like

Paul when yeah, it's like real deep and like yeah, so I love that. Yeah, it's like very meaningful so one of the things that really, like, I wanted to read like a segment of one of the text message exchanges because this is somebody who did not survive. And I think it'll just like really hone in on like how terrifying this was. So this victim was 15 years old,

named Benedict Vatdal Nielsen. It says, Mama, this is not going well. We're being attacked with automatic weapons. Then they said, call the police, ask them to come here. Then she called her mother, and she whispered into the phone, whatever happens, Mama, remember that I love you. Then the call was cut off. Oh wow.

Her mother responded, I've spoken with the police again. They'll be on the island at a minute now. Call me. Can I come and get you? Call me. Can I come and get you? Please, can I come? Please call me.

I need to know where you are so I can come and get you. Benedict was shot while hiding in a cluster at the pump house and was killed. It was horrible. So another memorial that was proposed was in 2014. It was proposed by a Swedish artist named Jonas Dalberg. by a Swedish artist named Jonas Dalberg. They actually won a government competition to design this. It was actually, it's not going to happen because people were like, no. Oh no. Basically, what it was was he had designed something that he was, he was calling a memory wound and he wanted to cut a channel across the Sorbratin Peninsula, which is near the island of Utoya, and it was a slice through the land that led into the water, and it would be covered by stone on either side, and like, so it would be this channel that would like cut open

the island, basically. So it was a memory wound, like it was supposed to be a wound in the land. People were not psyched about this because they said they didn't understand which I'm like, Norway, man. They were like, what did the land do to deserve being cut like that? Like, they were like, this man did this. The land did not do that. That's so pure. Yeah, so they were like, no. And then they were like, we don't want to be reminded of this with such a giant like wound in the earth like that's not what we need. Wow.

And I remember watching this on the news like I remember when it happened and I remember seeing that a helicopter had flown over the island and shown a view of the scene after it happened, it is horrific that scene. I mean, I just remember seeing people literally like strewn everywhere. It was chaos incarnate. Yeah. And knowing that those kids and their youth leaders who are there, I mean, most of them were there just because they have parents in the labor party. It's like, all these kids didn't even right. Necessarily want to be part of the labor party. They just, or didn't know really what it was about. They just were there to, 13 years old. You don't even know. Yeah, they were just hanging out with their friends. Like, they just want, we're going

to a summer camp, like, you know, getting experienced, abating and having discussions and like, learning new things. And this is what happens because of one dick. And thinking about what they went through in their last moments, just pure terror running around in Ireland stuck like, she's shooting fish in a barrel. It's like, that's, I just don't understand how that happens. It's horrific. But the good news is that Anders is in prison, hopefully, who will stay there until he rots. I mean, hopefully the coffee is always cold. Yeah. I hope that that reality show just stopped filming right before the end. I hope so too. I hope that what else? I hope his plastic cup cuts his lip every time he takes a fucking so hell Yeah, I hope it gives him some like carcinogens or something. I don't even know. Mm-hmm

I hope that he has to wipe his butt with the paper plates. Yep. Yeah, that sounds uncomfortable I hope his microwave food sends like radiation to his dick and shrinks it so small that it doesn't exist anymore. Love that. That one. Looks like I'm not know because I have nothing left. So fuck Anders, Bravick, Fyltalf, the fucking idiot. And that's just really stupid. Norway, you guys fucking rule seriously. And fuck that guy and he didn't do a damn thing to change you guys because you guys rock.

You guys are the best. So I hope you guys learned something from this didn't enjoy it. Maybe you just learned. Took something away from it. And yeah, so that's the story of the Oslo bombing and the Atoy off shootings in Norway. Many morbid. Wow. Not so many. No. Well guys, if you want to follow us on Instagram, you can do so at morbid podcast. If you'd like to hit us up on the Twitter, a morbid podcast. If you want to send us a Gmail morbid podcast at gmail.com.

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