Morbid - Episode 138: The Haunting Of The Palmer House Hotel, The Victor Hotel & The Spaghetti Factory with special guest Em Schulz!

Episode Date: May 11, 2020

Tonight we brought in the big guns to spook us right the hell out. Our beloved Em Schulz from And That's Why We Drink joins us as we tell a trio of spooky ghost stories revolving around some seriously haunted locales in America. There are boys with no eyes, Lucy who won't take your shit and a possibly handsome vintage gentleman who maybe stands at the foot of your bed. Come on it, it's an awesome nightmare in here. And That's Why We Drink Instagram @atwwdpodcast Twitter @ATWWDpodcast This episode sponsored by: Embr Wave Give the gift of thermal comfort this Mother's Day. Take $70 off the Embr Wave now during their sitewide sale. Go to embrwave.com/MORBID to redeem this offer. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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and some of you did guess this week's guest, which is really hard to say. We have M-sholes on this week from, and that's why we drink. Woo, M! Yay, it's me! Thank you so much for coming. This is amazing.

I know, thank you for coming on M. We're so excited to have you. Thank you for having me, first of all. Are you kidding me? Thank you for coming. I know. Oh yeah, well, I'm glad I slid into your DMs. So... I'm not gonna lie to you.

I like almost shit my pants. This has been like a dream of mine for like two years, I'll say. Oh, well thank you. I've been, I'm not, I'll admit I'm not caught all the way up. I'm probably on like one oh nine of your show, but I. You are actually far in. That's pretty, that's pretty caught up, honestly.

I really, I'm really liking it. So I. That's crazy to hear. caught up. Honestly. I really I'm really liking it So I that's crazy to hear and I just I guess I just say hi one day and then and then this happened So that how all great love stories start. Well, this worked out beautifully. Thank you. I am I I Don't know what to say. I am kind of a little star truck. So I'm excited. I'm here We are the star-struckest. We are star-strucker-y-pity-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-cate-c actually keep up with. But you guys have been my quarantine binge. So I'm a fresh, I'm like a new listener, but I'm I'm catching up very quickly. We love that. We're honored. You guys are that. I feel like this is not real right now. I'm like geeking a little bit. Oh stop. I was looking

at you guys's tour calendar. I think we are we maybe are a rep by the same people or something because you seem to be hitting all the same places we're going to. We definitely are. Okay. Gotcha. We noticed that too and we're like, oh shit! Now we just don't know when we're hitting those same places. Exactly. Have you guys been to the Wilbur yet? Ah, the Wilbur. The Wilbur show just got postponed.

That's a good show. That was our big show last year because I was Boston's work Christina by net, so. I was at that show and I met you in Christine at that show. Did you really? Yeah. Why do I remember that? I'm such an asshole. I'm sorry. No, I was like a little weirdo. I was like, hello.

Well, how two worlds collide, I suppose? I know. The Wilbur holds a special place in my heart. So my husband and I practically lived there while we were dating. Like we're huge comedy nerds and we used to go to shows like every weekend, sometimes on weekdays. Oh nice. Oh nice.

I, I'd never been before but I knew that I wanted to go because I used to watch a lot of come, like comics on TV and I used to love like Kathy Griffin when I was a lot younger and so um, I know all of her shows were at the Wilbur and so I was like wow I can't believe I'm right here. It was very, it was very cool feeling. Seriously, to know how many amazing acts I've performed up there, it's mind blowing. I know. I feel like it's gonna be so surreal, whatever we do in the year 2021 perhaps. Whenever that's rescheduled for?

Absolutely. You know, well, at least we have time to add pyrotechnics or something rather than we always wanted to do a tour show. How are you guys doing quarantining? Pretty good. Yeah, I'm quarantined with small children. So we were quarantined together a little bit and then we just separated what like a month ago. I gotta be honest, I don't envy you having to be with children during the quarantine but I also commend you you deserve an award. Well thank thank you. Honestly, you do. It's been interesting, for sure.

I will definitely. I've seen that ship firsthand. I know I keep seeing our friends or I keep seeing articles that are like 50 titles to binge during quarantine or like boredom busters. And I'm like, what is adult television like? And what is it like to be bored? Right, I don't remember.

I would love to know. Must be nice, yeah. I call you and I don't want to tell you about my day because I'm like, I did all these things, but no, I didn't. Never mind. Right. I know. Ash is like, yeah, I watched an entire season of such and such and woke up at 11 and I'm like, cool, I started my day at 5.30. How are you going to out in the like that? Well, I've been actively trying to like not fall into a cycle of waking up at dinner time.

So I, if I wake up before 11, I call it a good day. That is a good day. I don't have many days where I wake up before 11 to be honest. Okay, me either. But like I'm trying to make myself feel better. I also have been staying up until like 2.30 in the morning. So I feel like my body just needs that amount of sleep.

So I first of all I agree with you. And second of all last night I was up until 5 in the morning doing notes for the show because... Oh my god! Where I damn professional. I thought that I had gotten all the information I needed and then I like decided to go down a YouTube spiral and ended up finding like three times more information. So that's exciting. I'm very excited. It's a very juicy story. I didn't realize how great it was gonna be. Oh, I'm excited.

Yeah. You froze for a second on my end, but just you and I was like, oh shit. Oh shit, my internet just told me it was unstable. You're like me too, so it's fine. For real, instability rains. What is an unstable about this? Honestly.

We're like just roll with it. All right, I think I got this work in now, so we should just do this like campfire style and let's start with M. All right, so my story is in a town called Sac Center, Minnesota, and I have never heard of this before. I found it on a whim. And it is the story of the Palmer House Hotel.

And I gotta be honest, I have a lot of notes. So I'm gonna try to not make this super long for you guys, but everything is wildly juicy. I like there's nothing I could get rid of. No, don't get rid of it. Don't edit. No way. No brevity here. We'll work with that. Okay, good. So we started our journey back in 1858 as you do. And the best year. I know. I remember it fondly. And so the original house on this foundation was built by Warren Adley and it was purchased later by EP Barnum

and it was called the Barnum Hotel originally But it later became the Saks Center house It later became called the Saks Center house and then it became the Minnesota house for a little bit But at this time period between the 1850s to 1900, it was mainly regardless of its name or ownership. It was a brothel and a saloon. And we love the saucy underground places. So saucy.

And in 1900, the hotel was actually set on fire and they still don't know the cause. They know it came from the kitchen, but that's about it. And it burned down and nobody died, but you would think the town was like really devastated about this, but they were actually relieved that this quote, I saw of the town was gone and it wasn't drawing in unsavory people. Unsavory people are the best kind of people in my humble opinion, you know. Listen, I think it wasn't drawn in weirdos. I don't know if I want to meet a savory person. Absolutely not. I have no other person. Not interested. No. Firm pass.

And so the city didn't want to pay for a new hotel, considering that it was such a, I don't know, a wreck before on the city, at least, that they were bringing all these people in who endorsed brothels and saloons. And so they refused to fund a new hotel being built on top of it. But the Sac City Harold, or the Sac Center Harold offered $5,000 to someone who was willing to build it on their own. And so, not only a year later, a couple named Ralph and Christina Palmer, they ended up buying the property and built a three-story hotel and named it the Palmer House. Their original hotel had 38 rooms and a communal bathroom, one communal bathroom for 38 different rooms. No, I'm out, not today. Not into that at all. Another propath. So, in that way, this story is also a true crime.

Truly, truly one of the worst kind of crimes. So there were different stories that told me when it officially opened, but it was sometime in late September or early October. Or late September, early October. So I guess that makes her a Libra, regardless. Yes. Straight spooky Libra season.

Oh no. But it was a 1901 that had officially opened. And it had a bar and a restaurant for guests. And it was also one of the first places in Minnesota to have electricity and indoor plumbing. So it was wild in. You know, we love a good working toilet. Spooky season with indoor plumbing.

Libra season, I'm telling you and And so this made even the locals want to hang out there just because You know there was indoor plumbing. They were like I got a I got to check that out They were like what a saucy unsavory place with a working toilet. I'm telling you. Oh, I recently got a bidet while While we're on the topic of toilets. Oh, jealous. I want that fancy shit. Interesting experience. Me and my grandma have always wanted to get one in our house. We we lucked out because we got it right before the like the quarantine hit and so

and everyone was freaking out about toilet paper. We were like, I think we're covered. I feel like I have a fountain of water that will never run out, honey. I'm good. I was like, toilet paper, don't know her. We're good. That's amazing. It's been interesting. The first couple of times, me or my girlfriend, we would use the bathroom. And if you weren't in there, you could hear the other one

kind of like scream a little bit. She's like, ah! You're so not used to it yet. You're like, oh shit. I'm not used to it yet. You're like, oh shit. I'm not. Not used to things touching my butt. So I imagine it's like a learning curve that no one's truly prepared for. I imagine that's a very shocking experience. And also, it's kind of like a pressure valve so you can decide the pressure.

And we didn't know that at first. We just turned the knob on. And it just was like supersoaker. Set to power, not washroom. You're like, ouch, ouch, that actually hurts. Like, who loves this? And then it ends up being fine. It's funny because it feels like you would have to sit there and fiddle with the levels to really find your best power wash

level. What an experiment. There wasn't too much warning on my end. It was just, you know, do it to it. So, um, just trial by fire. Right. It definitely is something you should do in the mornings. It'll get you get you ready for the day. Lido wakes. Who needs coffee? Stay alert. Yeah. So in 1916, the hotel began to switch hands pretty often and each new owner was making their own different improvements.

They were going through a lot of different renovations and also during the prohibition they started selling liquor in the basement through these underground tunnels that were so they could bring alcohol in illegally and so it kind of became a saloon again and then in 1982 we're really time traveling now. Just getting in it to 1988. In 1982, it got listed on the National Register of Historic Places. And in the 90s, it got this really wild remodeling done. So pretty much how it looks now is thanks to the 90s. It has 19 rooms, including four suites.

It, nobody days, but everything gives the people what they want. No bidets. I don't know if I'm there. The ghosts are there to scare you instead of the bidet. There you go. They might be less scary. So in 2002, a couple named Kelly and Brett Freeze, they bought the building and they're still at owners today. And when they first got it, they had no idea that this building was haunted and they learned pretty quickly because since they had just bought it and wanted to do a quick little some maintenance and things like that their Kelly's dad moved in to I guess help with some of the maintenance and he lived there for three or four years before

or three or four months sorry before they opened the hotel I was like holy shit three or four years, sorry, before they opened the hotel. I was like, holy shit, three or four years, we can fucking make this. We're trying to make this take three to four years. He was taking advantage. They were really doing a lot. They were making the most, yeah. And so he started staying there and he was by himself and he asked Kelly one day, have you guys

started renting out rooms already? I didn't know that. And she was like, no no we haven't rented anything out You're alone and he was like oh, I'm hearing people all the time walking around in this hotel and they're upstairs They're pacing they're like jumping on the bed. I hear a nox all the time and oh my god so For some reason he kept staying there and he's like you know what this is probably fine I'll just stay for a little like, you know, four years or so

He um Basically kept telling her all these different reports and I guess the longer they were there the more Activity happened and the more intense it got and it's really don't love renovations. They don't they hate renovations Don't mess with their blueprint and so Which you'll learn about a little bit later. So, yeah, there's so much to cover. It's, this is truly such a banana story. I am, okay, sorry, I'm gonna get like all I've done.

I'm to the fullest because this shit is already getting good. No, I'm so stoked for this. I'm already like, what happened? Yeah, we don't temper our enthusiasm ever. It was like four in the morning and I was like I don't need any more information And then I was like but I should watch these these other 10 videos and then I got all into it all over again so so anyways, she started finding out that there was more activity going on and she

was like, what do I do? Like, this is going to kill my business if this place is this haunted and she was like, well, I can't deny that it's haunted because people are definitely going to complain about this. So I better just own it. And so she went into this kind of just saying like, here's a haunted hotel and she started posting people's guest experiences on their website and things like that and it ended up helping her business instead of killing it because now people want to be in a haunted hotel. Hell yeah lean into the spooza that's gonna say I would want to go

more if it was haunted. Whenever we whenever we're touring Christina and I do look into the haunted hotels and see if there's anything around so especially we got to start doing that when we went to New Orleans that was a wild time it was like pick So, especially, we got to start doing that. When we went to New Orleans, that was a wild time. It was like, pick your own adventure. Because it's like, oh, sure, which hotel do you want? That's one of my bucket list places. New Orleans was one of the loudest shows we ever had. It was really fun. I believe it. It was really good. Let's see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so many things. Okay, so they've now officially announced that this is a haunted hotel. Only like a couple years in, they've now officially announced that this is a haunted hotel.

Only like a couple years in they start hosting paranormal seminars at this hotel and they even have like TV personalities and radio hosts coming in to like host these things Before I get into the ghosts, I do want to I have a couple fun facts in our row for you. We love a fun fact. So the first one, they have to like build on each other. So the first fun fact is that Sack Center is apparently actually the boyhood home of the writer Sinclair Lewis. Oh cool. And so he wrote this novel in 1920 called Main Street. And apparently in that novel he wrote about this house called the Mini Mashi House.

So his most famous work is about Main Street and in his most famous work he talks about this Mini Mashi House and that house was inspired by the Palmer Hotel. So fun fact, if you read that book he's talking about the Palmer Hotel and he mentioned it because it was his inspiration because he actually worked there in the summers when he was a teenager and He got fired because he was spending so much time working on his writing and not working on his actual job But the fucking writers Well, here's a cool thing though. As apparently in the in the basement, there's like a little off shoot room that he used to like get away and write while he should have been working and some of his original. This is a rumor. I'm not sure of this, but apparently some of his like poems first drafts are written on the walls.

Oh, no way. That rules. I want to see that's so bad. Yes, but to do that, you have to get into the basement, which we're about to talk about. Yeah, that's a real piece of choice. Also, so apparently there's no known deaths on the site, or at least up until I watched a little show called Dead Files, which we'll get to, but apparently there were there's no official deaths that were on the site. There was one little boy that died from the flu in the early 1900s,

and then because of the hotel there is always the suggested potential for suicides. But other than that, they don't have really any recorded deaths. So a lot of these spirits just kind of show up out of nowhere. Just stay there while I'm back. Kate passing through., passing through. Just passing through. And that's what the owner says. So Kelly, I'm going to mention her a lot.

The owner of this hotel, she says that she thinks it's just residual energy. And maybe this is where a lot of people had some of their best moments. And so they pop in to say hello every now and then. Oh, that's sweet. It's precious. I love a nice spiritual moment.

If that's the haunted house you have to be in, I prefer it's the place where everyone loves being there. Yeah, honestly. So some of the things, some of the many, many things that people experience here are disembodied voices, including the voices of children. I know. I hate misquaced children's voices. See, we went from yes to no really quickly.

Real quick. My Uber arrived from real emotional roller coaster you're taking it on him. So children's voices. Apparently people hear their name being called in their alone. They feel drastic temperature shifts. We're talking like from 60s all the way to down like negative. Like in within 20 minutes there's just like drastic

temperature changes for no reason. The doors will slam open and shut. You'll feel really heavy or feel really sad in certain areas. People will hear the sounds of a kid bouncing a ball that's probably one of the most common sounds is hearing a child playing with a ball down the halls. You'll hear running down the halls from the room. Some children hearing a child bouncing a ball is like a nightmare to me. No, like a real child, but like a ghost child. Oh, well just wait like five minutes. You'll disagree with yourself. I was gonna say, I'm not gonna get that. I was like, remember when that was the nicest worst thing that you've ever heard. We're gonna be wishing for the creepy kids. And it's like, but wait, there's more.

So the balls made of fire, don't get me. The ball is actually a severed head. He's bowling with a skull? I don't know, I'm trying to make this really dark. So there, let's see, the, la, la, la, I lost my spot. Oh, okay, so you hear running down the hallways, there's knocking that comes from the walls. Apparently there are sinks that turn on and off by themselves,

the toilets will flush by themselves. The furniture will move at all hours of the day and like heavy furniture, like people will complain and be like, why did you put the TV in a part of the room where there's no outlet and they're like we didn't do that. The TV just moved. The there are items that go missing apparently they appear later in weird places so like you'll lose your phone and then you'll find it like behind the toilet or you'll lose your wallet and it's under the bed. Like it's a lot of weird stuff we'll just go missing and then either reappear or never show itself again.

Apparently a lot, they must hate the TVs there because there's also reports of people just losing remote controls and never finding them. I was just going to say they're not down with the technology. They're like, you've been vinging way too much Netflix. Like, you guys need to have some face to face connecting time. Why don't you guys go outside? Please go outside. Breathe some clean oxygen.

There's apparently a lot of poltergeist activity in the bar, including electrical disturbances. There's a man-in-vintage clothing that stands at the foot of your bed. How do you feel about that one? Nope. Not here for it. Better than the ball or worse than the ball.

I don't hate it. I mean, I want to know what the guy in vintage clothing was. Oh, Lane, it's like I had sleep paralysis. I don't hate it. I mean I want to know what the guy in vintage clothing looks like. I hate sleep paralysis. Apparently it's fine. I mean the vintage look can be a good look. And if you say how stylish we're talking here. So apparently also people feel some unlying on top of them in bed. No, not into that. Could be the same person who knows. This is probably this is probably the scariest one to me is that there's, um, so they have all this Christmas, all these Christmas decorations, including this big electronic snowman. And when they're not using it, they keep it in the basement. And when

it's in the basement, it's unplugged. And yet it still turns on in dances for you. Well, they're just putting on a show. I love that. I'm here for that. I'm still taking the vintage guy at the foot of the bed. That boy frosting. Are you shitting me? Over frosty, the happy, jaunty snowman. Apparently, uh, so what there are other times too, where when it's actually on display, someone will forget to plug it in and it'll still play. No one will know that it hasn't

plugged in for days. That just kind of makes me uncomfortable. Well, that's just helpful. That's, it's 50% useful. I agree with you. Yeah. There, this is kind of bananas speaking of the basement. So there's a strange, truly a random stranger went up to Kelly, the owner one day, and said, I had this really weird dream.

I feel compelled to tell you about this. But there was a guy that just showed up in my dream and said, like, now is the time for people to know about this. There's a body under the stairs. Oh, no, really buried the leaves. I just need those. Jesus. Keep you dreams to yourself. And basically, right.

It's like, I don't want to hear about that. Baby, that sounds like a confession. The, well, apparently she felt so compelled to tell Kelly that Kelly believed her since so many weird things have happened in the So tell she was like I guess all listened to your lead and went down under the stairs and the basement started digging with one of the spoons from the kitchen and found a bunch of bones in the basement. What a jackpot this is. So I guess we'll never see that writing, then. Not going there.

I want to go more and- And- Well, also apparently, here's even weirder, is she left them down there until she could figure out what to do with them, and then she went back down to grab them, to bring them to report them or something like that, and they were all of a sudden gone. No, they just left. They just are no longer there. Frosty hid them. It was Frosty's bones. I knew he had some.

The bones split because of the snow, man. There it is. See, I told you at least vintage gentlemen you would have. I think I just swayed. That's terrifying. Right. We'll always have him at the end.

He is our tether. So also in the basement, apparently there's one spirit named Hank and he did some maintenance when he was alive down there. Apparently he is very nice, but sometimes you'll hear knocking from him, but other people will also experience that really awful feeling of like thinking you have a spider web on your face, but there's no spider web. They'll just need that feeling.

So now like spiders, aren't you? Also, they're living forms aren't bad enough. Oh, shit. One cool thing that happened in the basement to Kelly was that one time she saw what she claims, a million little fireflies in every color you can imagine like pulsing light in and out and then just disappeared. Ooh, I like that. That's really cool. It's like a spirit rave. That's what okay. I didn't have a word for it but that's what I was trying to call it. Like some sort of like random crazy like head banging concert. Yeah. A spirity and he had a concert. Well, that was where it is.

It's like day glow, but with ghosts. People have also found a lot of small wet foot prints down there, as if someone is walking around out of a puddle. Which could be a spirit named Raymond, which I'll get to later. But he's always, apparently the basement you've always feel something really dark and heavy down there and one time while with a group Kelly actually saw this massive shadow in the doorway

the entire room goes pitch black and all you can see is the shadow of this wolf with red eyes. And then the lights came back on. Oh, it's like the bad creature from the never-ending story. Like, in my dog's eyes. Yes, it's also like that thing Lucifer, I think. One in the same. You know, similarly. So apparently there's a demon dubber.

It's a demon dubber. What's the, what was the character's name from never-ending story? Shit, it's like Gmork or like something like that. Something like that, I know everyone's story. It's like his evil twin brother or something. So, apparently during this, during one investigation, people were talking about the snowman and they had left track snowman and said, I don't think it works anymore.

And then they got two EVPs on the recorder that they heard back later. They got two voices saying, it works, it does. Oh my god. EVP's fucked me up, man. That shit always gets me. Same. It, so that is where all of a sudden I decided to start checking out YouTube because I got some really good stuff here. So apparently people have seen app versions,

including one sitting at a piano. A few of them are on the stairs right at the foot of the bed. And all of them look incredibly real to people. Like you don't know that you're talking to a ghost until later you find out that someone was not standing next to you. So the most common one is this little boy with blonde hair and kids see him a lot in the hallways.

They also big bouncing a ball and he's usually standing on the steps. A lot of kids will go home later and tell their parents, like, I have so much fun there playing with that little boy and then the parents will be like, what are you talking about? I truly never want to have that experience with my children. Oh my god, kids are so fucking scary. Well apparently he's not the only child there.

There's multiple children that will like run up and down the halls and so the little boy and like all the children that run up and down the hall. Kelly says that her biggest complaint and that is that guests will later say I had a great time but like someone was laying their kids run up and down the hall all night like we couldn't get to sleep and there's and then they have to be told like you were the only people in the hotel to know chilly Willie um so apparently it's gone to a point there was one interview that made me laugh where Kelly was like I'm hanging out downstairs in the middle of the night. I'm like trying to like catch a nap when everyone's upstairs and like all all the sudden hear all these crazy loud bashing clanging sounds and I just hope that I'm the only one who can hear these

and they're not real, because someone is gonna complain and then I'm gonna have to leave my cozy couch and I'm gonna have to go upstairs and look around and I already know there's nothing there. So I just hope that no one calls and complains. It'd be like, yeah, I hear you, but I am not trained. So like, rainfully. I just feel like the place is haunted.

You know that, let's go in this. Do mefully? I just feel like the place is haunted. You know that. Let's go with it. Let's go with it. Do me a salon just check out the hall for me because I promise no one's there. Right. And we all just collectively know it's haunted and move forward.

Live with it, accept it, enjoy your stay. To the best of your ability. So apparently the little boy that all the kids see, apparently his name is Carlisle. There are pictures that adults have taken of him, either like lying flat on the stairs, peaking over the railing, or like leaning over the railing, like a little kid. And I guess Carlisle, he used to be the plumber's son, and the plumber used to live there with Carlisle. So Carlisle lived there when he was a little kid

And he lived a full life to adulthood So it's interesting that his spirit as him is a little kid here So that might have been like his favorite time and place that he comes back to Yeah, and what's well they didn't know that his name was even Carlisle or who he was until Carlisles two granddaughters came to visit the hotel one day. And they were saying, oh, yeah, my grandpa used to live here as a little kid. He used to always get in trouble, like bugging people in the lobby because he was always bouncing that ball. Oh, my God.

And then people would be like, and people were like, what are you talking about? Yep, that's Carlyle, all right. That sounds like big sea right there. And apparently he would always get in trouble for bothering the people in the lobby. And so he'd get sent upstairs and he'd always lean over the side of the stairs waiting until he could come back down. And that's where people see that.

You know, that's cute and youthful, but I hate it. It's precious. A lot. To a point where I, right? I almost don't want to interact with it, but I kind of do. Right. I'm writing that fence. You want to see it, but then you want to be like,

came out. So apparently there's also a chair in the hallway where when people sit on it, they feel like someone is watching them whenever they're in that chair. And so the original So the original polymers who lived there, their mother actually also stayed there for a while, and she is seen in this red dress, and what's interesting is there's actually a portrait of her in the hotel wearing the same dress. So people will not know that they saw an apparition, and so they look at the picture, and they're like, I just saw that woman, and then you find out that she's been dead forever. And so there was one day where that portrait lifted itself off the nail and came crashing down to the ground. Oh my god.

And they just don't keep that portrait up anymore. They just assumed that was her way of saying, I don't want this picture of me anymore. And so they leave it in, not into this pic, not into it. This is not my angle. I don't look good in this I'm not into it take it down it's like the OG version of untagging the photo don't like this angle untag just destroying the portrait yes exactly rip it down and so apparently people have seen her they've also seen like a they've seen her standing on the landing on

the stairs as well as a bride who will like look out into the lobby and then turn around and walk back up the stairs and she's really sad so I guess they assume she got rejected on her wedding day. There's always a sad bride. I hate a sad bride. We feel for her. But I've covered so many goddamn stories about brides and hotels that it doesn't even faze me anymore. I feel like I've read a lot of those. Every time I do a hotel story, I'm like,

I will bet myself $10 million that there's gonna be a god damn bride in the story. They're always this. They're always this. You like wait for it. I would love to find a hotel where a bride hasn't been jilted, you know? Right. Just once I want a story where there's a dead bride that's walking around like fuck yeah, it's my wedding day bitches That's actually yeah just a happy wedding. She's like in the middle of tossing the bouquet down the staircase

A bouquet is hit you in the head nailed it. You know she's around because single ladies start to blast Okay You're onto something. Wait a minute. We're really onto something here. You should do that in the after life, Elena. You're wedding venue. You just go back and haunt it.

But in the best way. Maybe I will. Apparently, there's another app version of someone wearing a red head wrap. And Kelly has seen her a few times and actually spoke to her one time and watched her vanish. And later was looking back to her pictures and realized that she was the Palmer's daughter. And so she also wants the place and then now we're just going to get into like the main rooms. So room 11 is the most active. That's where a girl named Annie lives. She apparently, hey, oh, Annie, you're involved in the story. Make sure Annie knows exactly what's going on over here,

because Annie likes to rub your back when you're sleeping. OK, great, so far. Apparently, Annie always likes when the room is super duper cold. Yup. OK, we're there. We're doing it so far. Apparently in Room 11, if you ever get booked into that room, they'll ask you in advance if you're allergic to cats because there's a ghost cat in Room 11 that will,

you'll hear purring and yowing throughout the night and you'll feel something jump onto the bed and walk around on the covers. I actually hate that a lot. I'm also, but I'm allergic to cats, so I'm also but I'm allergic to cats, so I'm not into that. It would be, again, precious until ice-cream. Yeah, I don't like a cup of this dress. There's a fine line. Like how long, how close is that cat gonna get to me? Well, because if something jumps on your bed, I'm out. I, um, what was I gonna say? Oh, so apparently this is also the room where there's psychics

that are always mentioned. Like, like psychics always mention Annie, but nobody has a real origin story. There's a rumor that she was sleeping with someone who was married and got pregnant, and then he stayed with his wife and left her pregnant. That's the story I refuse to accept anything else. Oh, that's pretty sad. It's, well, people suggest that that's probably real real because they also hear a lot of, they hear a lot of sounds of women crying in that room. So it might, might be her, but I only got that reference from one source, so I'm not too sure how accurate that is. But um, so room 11 is the most active, and then in room 12, there's a maid that apparently sits in a chair and hangs out there. Her name's Jacqueline. And in room 17, there is a former sex worker named Lucy that lives there.

There's two chairs in this hotel room and Lucy likes to sit in the chair closest to the bathroom. And she hates when men are in her room. Good for her. Oh, don't blame her. She's like all the single ladies by. Also apparently she, I guess if she hates when men are in the room but she especially hates it when people are taking up both of the chairs. You always have to have one chair open for her because if there are two men in the room sitting in those chairs, it's implied that she doesn't get a chair she has to be on the bed which as a sex worker at that time, it's a really strong implication. So she does she does not like that she likes always having a chair to her and she will let you know if you're too close to the chair. If you ask her questions during an investigation, if you're like, am I too close, she'll be like,

hell yeah, move. Get it. I love Lucy. Back the fuck up. I love Lucy too. We stand Lucy. She knows what she wants and she's a sort of this fuck. She's a bad bitch.

She's a bad bitch. She's like, I'll take your money, but also get the fuck away from me. And get out of my damn chair. What a power move. She also, she's really, really, really good the fuck away from me. And get out of my damn chair. What a power move. She also, she's really, really, really good at changing the temperature intelligently, meaning if you ask her, hey, can you change the temperature within a couple of minutes, the temperature will

drop 30 degrees. So she's a thermostat, too. She, like, renaissance moment. And she's a meteorologist? Um, she actually, she was the one who got the temperature from 65 to negative one, one time in a span of 20 minutes. That's insane. And damn, there's a lot of people who stay in her room who say that they wake up in the middle of the night and they can see their breath. And even like in the middle of the summer, people will go out into the hall and stand out there to get warm because it's so cold and no heating helps.

I need to go out there and get ruined. Um, I know. Can we all take a trip once the corona's over? Yeah, a thousand percent. We can live stream the event. Yes, yes, yes. All we'll do is just sit there and treat Lucy like a goddamn queen. We'll be like, you can get yours. We will just spend the entire evening worshiping at the altar of Lucy. a goddamn queen. We'll be like, you fucking get yours. We will just spend the entire evening

worshipping at the altar of Lucy. Leave her presence. Well, so this is really fucked up, and I only got this from one source, and I don't know if this is true, but apparently someone has seen Lucy, and she's not looking hot. So apparently she was seen in her chair,

smoking a cigarette. This is a quote. She was seen quote, sitting in a chair, smoking a cigarette with the is a quote. She was seen quote sitting in a chair smoking a cigarette with the left side of her face beaten up but the right side of her head hanging off. Oh, look. Like scalp over scalp over hanging her skull. No, no wonder she's pissed. Well that's why she's pissed off. Wait a minute. Yeah, she's like let me sit my ass down and have some peace with this thing

She's like the least the least I can have is this fucking chair. You know she gives me um who was I was her name Sally an American horror story. Yep Sally. She gives me those vibes. Yeah. Oh actually Sure, let's do with that. Let's go with that with that okay I'm vibing with that okay so okay so I mentioned Raymond earlier who's the one that leaves wet footprints everywhere apparently on soggy Raymond soggy Raymond we all know him he is super territorial of the room that he's in which is room 22 and he likes to play with anything water-based so he likes to mess with faucets and turn the sinks and showers on. He likes to leave puddles and random areas where there's no water source. He leaves what footprints everywhere. He also

has people, he when people are in his room they feel like pressure in their head so I'm like at headaches. And also this isn't based on Raymond but in the bar a lot of times dishes in glasses used to get smashed or they would slide off the tables by themselves. So at that point Kelly was like the activity is getting a little too strong like things are literally just moving around. I think at one point her friend or her husband even saw one of the bottles full of alcohol literally just explode at the bar. Oh my gosh, shit, that's it.

So she was like, things are getting too wild and a psychic told her, you still have the power, you can still tell them no, tell them to stop that. And so she did and the glasses stopped being messed with, but she was in Raymond's room one day folding towels and she felt this really dark energy behind her and she started feeling like she was being choked. And so ever since then she has decided that Raymond is probably like the grumpy gills of the hotel apparently for sure. So those are all the rooms but now all I have for you are a couple stories, like quick stories from the guest experiences.

You can find all these stories on the actual Palmer Hotel website. I'm pretty sure it's like Palmer Hotel's slash guest experiences or something. But so one person named Tracy says that Tracy went there for their birthday and decided to bring a digital recorder to get EVPs and the only EVP they got was a female voicing happy birthday. Fun! Oh my god! Yikes!

Tracy's like cool thanks by... it's... I... it's eerie. I don't know if I love it or hate it. I can't decide. It's time. I feel like I'd have to hear it. I need to hear your tone. That's true because it could be like, happy fucking birthday. Happy birthday, bitch. It's BD. Someone else, Greg and Laurel both heard fudds on the stairs, and then they saw, quote,

a twisted broken shape of an old man with a snapped cane who disappeared. No thank you. No thanks. Jessica Rose, Jessica Rose and Darryl say that they woke up being slapped on their legs just like, I wake up it's time. And what the fuck? Just a light leg slapping. Like a new slap, you know. And then they saw something move by, they saw something move by their faces, and then all of a sudden the bathroom floor had puddles everywhere,

and they felt cold air around them. Raymond was just taking a bath. Raymond was like, hey, watch this, and smackin' on their leg. Look what I can do, Ray. Slapping people's legs is another power move, I feel. So there's one person that goes by K-E-J, who said that they heard loud clomping down the hall

towards their room. The clomping went through the door into their room and reached the foot of their bed, and then their bed shook. I'm out. Oh, shaking beds. I don't know why, but that fucks me up. That actually happened to me in an apartment

that I used to live in, and my bed would always shake at night. I don't like that. Hate it. It's because your bed feels like a sanctuary. Yeah, don't touch my bed. It's very violating. It's very awful. It's the clumping, too.

Like anything that clumps is something I want to be as far away from immediately. I do not want that. Well, because no matter what, no matter what, it's hoved. So it's either a horse or a demon. Exactly. Or both. Or a horse. Nothing hoved. Should be coming at me. Or for me. At any point in my life. Get up out of my room with the, with the hooves. Whatever that shit is, it needs to vacate my room. So there's one story that I really like the most on this website. And it's from Jeannie, who was a night clerk at the time.

And this is, I'm just gonna read, first of all, I'm going to read it verbatim, but I also, like, definitely deleted a lot of sentences in between. So this is kind of verbatim paraphrasing, if that makes sense. This was much longer, and I didn't want to read the whole thing, but this is kind of long, sorry. So Jeannie says, well, the microwave, the motorcyclist had something to say first.

This is microphones are crazy outside. Oh, I just fucked up too. I said, Microphone. The microwave's blasting them in the street at this hour. So Jeannie says, lobby lamps would go on without explanation. I, and I eventually unplugged one particular lamp because it was so creepy, and also the faucet and the waitress station would turn on occasionally, but only run for a minute and then go off. The civil war moved so often that eventually I gave up even trying to straighten it until before I left, and then there was this bartender, um, where after the, oh, sorry, I skipped

a sentence. And then there was the cold. After the first two nights, I learned to bring a sweatshirt and pants, and it got so cold I can almost see my breath. One night, the bartender left, and I went to vacuum the pub, and I saw a young man standing at the bar. He was a nice enough looking guy in his mid-twenties, and he asked if he could get a beer. He gave me a $10 bill, and I said, oh, I don't have access to any change. He checked his pockets and came up with five quarters and I said that that beer happened to be on sale for $1.25. So he gave me the quarters, thanked me and headed up the stairs. Clearly, this guy was just a hotel guest, but the next day she learned that nobody there, nobody was actually there that night. Nobody had checked in, nobody

checked out, nobody had stayed and the beer glass was never found that's so spooky so I gave a ghost grief about change awesome So a lot of things a lot of layers and you transferred funds like you had a transaction But also like in heart so it's it's it's a shorter version of this story But like in her long version like she was even like having like back and forth with him He was like, oh, what kind of beer should I get? And she was like, this one's my favorite. And he was like, oh, that's fine.

And then like, she grabbed the money from him. Like, they exchanged, like they touched me. They touched. You have changed from beyond now. You have ghost DNA on you. Yeah. So anyway, that was a lot. You would expect him to be like really cold or something.

Yeah, you would think you would notice something like that. And she said in her story too that like even though it was the summer and in the 90s and the owner says to keep the fireplaces closed off, there was like a blazing fire that may. Interesting. He was trying to set the mood for sure. Oh yeah, he was putting on the old school moves. I respect it.

He was like, let me get you a drink. What's your favorite? So I only have left this one section where I know this is super long. I'm so sorry, but no, don't be sorry. This is awesome. So I'm here for this. There was for this. There was different YouTube channels that I watched that were different investigations and evidence that was found and so some of it was really good and I never even heard of any of it in the research that I found so I anything that I just said I was able to find in my reading but this is what I found on YouTube that was totally separate and I'll try to give them shout out so you guys can watch them on your own.

But there was one group called search for spirits for being a number like a AIM username. And so they caught a chair moving on its own, which is on camera, they caught a chair moving on its own when the investigator asked a spirit to sit down. They asked, we would like to know how many of you there are. And this was during a spirit box session. Do you guys know what a spirit box is? Oh yeah, they had one at the Lizzie boarden house. It was crazy. Oh cool. Wow.

Okay, cool. I just didn't want to jump in like I assume. Basically it's speaking in real time to spirits. You can hear their voices shout out actual phrases to you. So, they said, we'd like a number of how many of you are here in the spirit box said one. Then they said, if you're tired of us talking, can you say either done or leave or give us a sign that you don't want us here anymore? And the spirit box said done. You asked, I'm done, times up interlopers.

Like GTF up. And also like clear as day. Like it's like there, you don't have to wonder what's going on anymore. No missing words here. All right. Someone asked if the spirit could kick the ball because they were trying to talk to Carlyle. And the ball rolled by itself and when they asked can you move the ball they got an EVP of a voice saying yes. They also got pictures

that night that were all kind of distorted in different ways. So one investigator's face was half missing in the picture. Another had red markings all over her neck and another one had a woman walking behind her. No, no, no. It was all bad. And another picture had an investigator, this was at the same time that the investigator said that so Lucy had this really like distinct powdery floral perfume and it wasn't like a spritz. It was like Lucy was 13 with a can of axe like didn't know what she was doing. So it was like she dropped the bottle. And so whenever Lucy's around,

you can smell this really overwhelming powdery smell. So one of the investigators said she could smell Lucy's perfume and at the same time that she said that a picture is being taken of her and this orb is right underneath her nose. Creebee. There was another group called haunting season and they got

really intelligent knocking and both people, so they had investigators in one room and then another room and both of them thought the other one was knocking and nobody was. And this was wildly creepy if you want to go watch it's called haunting season and then Palmer House. But it was just really weird it was like eight minutes in but they were all using walkie-talkies to get through the house and they were all in the room together and all of a sudden the walkie-talkie goes off and there's a woman singing or like a little kid humming. I feel like that's when I would tap out. For a while. I hate ghost children. I remember it was three in the morning. I was like,

I don't have the fucking capacity to handle this right now. No. I don't was three in the morning. I was like, I don't have the fucking capacity to handle this right now. No. I don't know how you watched all this. That like two, three in the morning. Fuck that. I was aware I was like, something's gonna eat me alive right now. Also, while everyone was downstairs, they saw a small figure crouching on the stairs. And so when they went to go grab the ball that they had planted upstairs in the middle of the hallway, it had already rolled on its own to Carlyle's room. Oh my god. Also anything crouching?

No one should crouch at you. Stop crouching in my house. I don't care if you're a puppy dog. Don't fucking crouch. Another one was called, this was my favorite one. If you guys are gonna go watch anything on YouTube about this, it's called Minnesota Ghost Box. They go by MN Ghost Box. And it's a three-parter.

It was like a whole 45-minute show, but they got some really crazy spirit box voices. And so they asked Carlisle, were you happy as a young boy? And they got a spirit box said, yeah. And then it was like, I was a wild, didn't I? This is when they got some sass from Lucy. the spear box said yep, and then he was like, I was a wilded. This is when they got some sass from Lucy.

So they said, am I too close to your chair? And they were also doing a flashlight session. So you can use a flashlight and kind of the ones that open from the top or from the lens. And so if you unscrew it, so it's just ever so light, that if you touch it one way or another, it'll light up. If you leave that in a corner of the room a spirit can touch the flashlight and do yes or no questions.

I have a hunch you already knew this but in case anyone out there doesn't know what I'm talking about. They, so they did a flashlight session and they said am I too close to the chair and the flashlight turned on immediately. Yup, you are. Thanks for playing. I think like, is this blinding enough for you? The sass, I love it. And then the spirit box said hello.

When they said how many are in the room, the spirit box said please go five. She's like five too many. More than just me. So yep, that's too much. Five and zero should be the answer. They said they asked Lucy are you sitting in the chair and the flashlight said yes And then the spirit box said Greg which was the name of the investigator and then they said are there still the same amount of Spirits in this room and the flashlight turned on and then the spirit box said Nicole which was the only other investigator in there Oh my god, and then they both shout their pants. At least I did. And then they said, do you prefer the flashlight over

this device? The spirit box and the flashlight said yes, and the spirit box said sure. When they asked, are there any spirits in here from the previous room, the spirit box said, I am. And then when they left the room, they decided to leave candy for Lucy in her room, and they got a spirit box voicing, dessert, it's good. I mean, who doesn't like some candy? Oh, dessert, thanks, I still hate you. What a queen. That's such a queen.

She's like, get the fuck out of my room. Also, thanks for the candy. She's like, see you later, better bring more candy. And well, then when everyone left officially, the last spirit box they got with the last voice they got said Sia. I really get it's okay we don't have to. On Lucy schedule. When they

were talking to Annie they got kind of the same sass and so they said my name is Greg and my name is Nicole and they got a spirit box voice it said yep. Fascinating male Greg Nicole. That's amazing she's like cool cool bye they said can you say your name in the spirit box said leave and then they said is it okay if I stay in your room in a spirit box said never my

name is leave and my number is gonna fuck this they said how many years have you been here and the spirit box said hundred and then this they asked what's your name in the spirit box said Annie and then the flashlight turned on One thing that's pretty nice is they did say in Their investigation we only come here with love and respect and then the spirit box said the word friendship Oh, oh, cute. Oh, gracious. Precious. You're like but then and But then they said we're going to go and the spirit box said no and then they said oh do you not just do not want us to leave in the flashlight said yes the flashlight turned on

Then they said in the basement they Said do you have a name and the spirit box said hello hello hello and the flashlight turned on and then they asked can you make the snowman move and the spirit box said maybe So boy and they asked, can you make the snowman move and the spirit box said maybe? So cool. Oh, I expected. They said, can you make the spirit box move and the, or can you make the snowman move and the spirit box said maybe? And then they asked, are you sick of people asking about the snowman and the spirit box said, yeah, go away.

So other than that, I did watch the dead files and the ghost adventures episodes on this. And the only real takeaway from the ghost adventures, which if you listen to it, and that's why we drink, you know that Zach Bacon's is a recurring topic on my show. Anytime there's a ghost adventures episode, I have to watch it, but basically, the only real things that happened here was that in the basement, Kelly, started feeling really anxious and she started crying in the basement in a millimeter, one of their devices started going off really wildly They got EVP saying I'm following her

They're coming to get you and then when they asked is there any danger for anyone here in EVP Literally said Zach vegans and then laugh. It's a Zach attack Because he's like fuck you Zach. They're like that guys going down and then they also got, we don't heard about you. They also got a spirit box voice saying Aaron, who's another guy on the show. And then they heard growling. And when Zach said, what is that? The spirit box said, a spirit.

And then said, goodwin, which is Aaron's last name. You would be a danger girl. Oh my God. Growling is always my limit, I think. Well, in the basement at the same time They ended up getting this weird light anomaly walking down the hall and then a chord hanging from the ceiling start swaying And then they heard Fertiture dragging glasses clinking they heard rattling and then they got an EVP saying make sure they go and then a broom lifted

It's off the wall and fell over. Holy shit. I have to watch this episode. I know. That was ghost adventures. That was real. That one was good and then also if you get a chance, that was for the record. That was season seven episode four and then Dead Files is season nine episode four and they actually found a couple additional deaths that even Kelly didn't know about including one guy named Moe's in 1890 and then a cop named Jason in 1929 who was actually shot and died only 500 feet away from the hotel and the hotel was the last location he was seeing. Both of their spirits are apparently still there. When I hear Moe's the first thing that pops in my head is

opposite. Right? When I was I've never heard another Moe's. So when I was watching this and they said Right? When I was, I've never heard another buzz. Well, so when I was watching this and they said mose, I was like, I've never actually had to write that down. I only know it from the office. How do I even spell those? Me neither. I'd have no idea. And so, um, the medium, this was a really good

episode, by the way. If you guys are bored at 3 a.m., you should watch the dead files episode of this. So, the medium described feeling sudden extreme nausea, dizziness headaches, she began choking and tasting smoke and she could see a woman who couldn't breathe and apparently we didn't know this beforehand but there were actually four major fires on site. Oh shit! That even Kelly didn't know about but apparently this medium was like there was a shit lot of fires here. She's like see I have it here in my mouth.

And then they found out that there actually were four different fires there. There were no fatalities but a lot of fires. And some people apparently some of the spirits have been getting physical in the kitchen. There have been things getting thrown at people, people in the beginning pushed. There's been a lot of shadow figures crawling up the ceilings and walls and dripping like chunks of ink or tar. No absolutely not. Ink and tar? Fuck that! No. I want my vintage gentleman back. And that's checkout time everyone. Oh that freaks me out. The last thing I'm going to say is that there apparently is something that the media, someone that the medium kept seeing that she deemed the name skeleton face because he literally

has the face of a skeleton and is super powerful and in the basement and apparently killed a lot of people in his lifetime and still hits and pushes people and actually killed a woman who also haunts the building. She is known to be super protective of the kitchen and has thrown a bowl at Kelly before. And I guess the spirit has also found out that like this guy who used to kill a bunch of people, nobody ever knew about it, but has become demonic over time and it's because, so this episode came out in 2018 I think, and the medium was explaining because she's had so many people in the hotel investigating, it stirred up more and more energy, so this thing has been getting more and more powerful.

And so Kelly even in the YouTube episodes, she looked super chill and she was like, oh yeah, well, you know We're just hanging out and fun in here. Yeah, and then apparently by 2018 when this came out She looked real like fucking distressed. She looked like she was in trouble and so apparently by the time this episode came out She called them for help because she started seeing black shadows towering over her. She was literally getting seeing black shadows towering over her. She was literally getting temporarily possessed and she was getting jumped by these things in the basement. So they were taking over her body and she could on the inside of her body she knew she wasn't in control of what was happening but she knew she wasn't in control of her body. Apparently one of the tenants that was living there said that he heard heavy weights being dropped on the ground above him and he also got possessed by something in the basement and he even woke up one

time to feeling someone crawl into bed with him put their arm around him and put their fingertips on his chest and it was shocking him and he felt paralyzed and basically they think that maybe the super dark creature could have been one of the original owners back in the 1890s, but they're not sure. And basically, the episode ended with the medium saying, you need to contact a few people to remove the negative energy or else it's just going to get worse. And that's it. That's the end.

She's like, stage the shit out of this place. Honestly, that's when I would be like, it's been real but you can have the hotel now. It's yours. You certainly earn it. It's all you about. I know when she like said that she was staying and I was like, girl, why? Like please just leave. Yeah. I'm not sticking around to see what happens after black ink starts dripping and skeleton faces

come out of nowhere. No. Anyway, I talked for a full blown 45 minutes and I'm so sorry, but that was worth every damn second. It was a great 45 minutes stop. That is the Palmer House Hotel. That was so good. For real, if everyone could see us right now in the zoo, like maybe we should have recorded

this because ash in my mouths are just wide open, just staring like my jaw hurts from like hanging open. I appreciate that. I feel really bad because the whole time I was doing these notes, I was like, God damn it, like I'm guessing on someone's show and I'm about to like absolutely like railroge you with information. So I'm glad it was at least juicy info.

No dude, you're good. No way, this is what we wanted. You were our preses of listeners. This is what we're here for. And you ended it perfectly on possession and violence. The end drops the mic. Oh, amazing. I appreciate that. Thank you. Alright so mine's going to be a little shorter because I wanted M's to be like the real main event. But it's got some spookiness you you know, it's in Colorado. Ooh.

So we're gonna be taking you to Victor, Colorado, to the Victor, Colorado hotel. Okay, I haven't heard of this. Me either. Now this is like a little town, it's surrounded by 500 mines. So this town was boomin' in the heyday in the early, it's 20th century, you know, the earliest, the 20th century. It was full

of gold and just pump it out like nobody's business. So, now it really found success after the Silver Crash of 1893, when the Senate officially took back repealed the Sherman Silver Purchase Act, you know that act. I'm not in, I'm not'm not like I knew I had already everybody knows that like oh yes the silver crash Yeah Basically what it was was it meant the US government was not going to buy silver to use for coins and was going to move Strickly to gold okay now This was not awesome for Colorado because its economy was heavily built on silver tons of silver was heavily built on Silverman. Oh. Tons of Silver. This is why, you know, like a lot of towns and places in Colorado

are named like Silver Springs. Sure. Silver, Papadu, Silver, Beboop, you know. Silver, Papadu. Oh, I don't know if I've been there. Yeah, Silver, Papadu. You've heard of it. No, it makes total sense now.

There you go. Yeah. At one point, it had a population of like like at peak 12,000 to 18,000. It was in two a bunch of different sources said different things. So just know that it was one of the largest places in the state at one time and then the shit hit the fan. As it always does. There's no clean fans. Never clean fans. Not a clean fan. So in 1894 there was a minor strike Miners were like yo can we get like three dollars daily minimum wage and an eight-hour workday

Please so we don't all die of black lung with two dollars in our pocket like that please So much that right luckily They ended up winning that but things did not stay calm for long don't don't don't They ended up winning that but things did not stay calm for long. Don't don't don't. In 1903, my knowners suddenly were like, oh you know that agreement we had where you guys get three dollars and a reasonable work day so you don't you know die penniless after working yourself to death. Yeah, we're just gonna stop honoring that for no reason.

So the miners went on strike again. Great. But this was a doozy though. Over 4,000 miners just walked to the fuck out. The guy leading the charge was a dude named Big Bill Haywood. Now, I had to look this guy out because I was like, oh, what's Big Bill all about? In his hilarious, because he's described as being capable and willing to break a man's jaw.

But he also openly wept at a sweet poem. Like, wow. So he's versatile. He's got a range to him. What a truly unique end of it. Oh my god, do you know what that reminds me of? Is it Frankie from Boy Meets World? Oh yeah.

Exactly. He's Frankie from Boy Meets World. That's exactly him. Holy shit. You just killed it. No, that's perfect. There it is. Wow. Also, Bill Frank, you just pulled a memory right out of my head that I forgot I had.

Right? You're welcome. I've been watching so much boy meets where I'll done Disney Plus. It's like, it should be illegal. Did you ever watch one of those, there was like four episodes that never made it to air, but like, we're, because they were too dramatic.

We're like, one of, no. Oh, you have to find them on YouTube. They're really good. One is like, like Sean is like it's about alcoholism and he starts drinking. He like hits Angela And then oh my god, and then there's one about prom where they're like oh I have to watch Up for the first time is juicy. Shit. I need to find those. Oh, we have so much to watch. They're on YouTube You've given us so many like ideas for what to watch during our insomnia hours. I'm gonna be up until like 530. I'm just gonna wake up with the kids like hello.

It's fine. Sean Hunter will be okay. So like I said, this strike was pretty nasty. It lasted over 15 months, but it's what happened during those 15 months that is perhaps why the town is so fucking haunted. My knowners paid soldiers to infiltrate the town. They seized police headquarters. They started illegally arresting and detaining anyone who even slightly stood up for the workers or anything.

Governor James P. Body declared martial law. So anyone that was involved in the strike, I mean lawyers, reporters, union members, anybody that was even slightly sympathetic to their cause, was held in a literal bullpen, for weeks, and this bullpen was exactly what it sounds like, and it was surrounded by barbed-fucking-wire. Wow. So for example, an article I read said that, quote, the entire staff of the Victor Daily Record was arrested after printing an anti-minoners editorial. So mine owners were also paying vigilantes to plant bombs, and then they would blame all

the carnage on the strikers. Wow. They even purposely collapsed minds with miners inside and had legitimate gangsters hired to just straight up murder a ton of people during this. What? It was fucking pandemonium. Last pandemonium. Well, on January 27th, 1904, 15 men were killed because an elevator cable at the nearby independence mine

was fucked with, it was sabotaged and all the miners just fell to their death. Holy crap! It's crazy! So they held strong. December 1st, 1904 they did get their original terms back and they kind of won but the violence didn't go anywhere for a while. The soldiers came out in the spring of 1904 but the striking miners bombed a strained depot in the nearby town of Independence, and they killed 13 more non-union workers. Everything didn't get really settled down until 1907. Damn. It was like, it's like a wild western.

Sounds like it was. This place looks like a movie set. It doesn't even look real. It looks like facade building. Not under this town looks like it's a movie set because it sounds like a movie. That's exactly what this sounds like. I'm just picturing like, orgy dirt everywhere. Exactly. Literally just everything Papa watches on TV. So, the Victor Hotel was built in 1899. and it is a four-story Victorian building.

I think it's made a brick. Really pretty. It was built by Victor's founders who are the Woods Brothers. Now, originally the first floor was a bank. It was the Citizens Bank of Victor. The second, third, and fourth floors were just like random office buildings, like all that kind of shit. But then later, they were like, oh, this office building on the fourth floor, why don't we just make that a hospital? Yeah. So they turned it into a hospital, you know? Two birds, one stone.

So the work, get your checkup. I already hate it because with hospital, I assume a ghost will appear quickly. I assume some trauma is gonna happen. Always. They actually were performing surgical operations there as early as 1906. It did become neglected along the way and just kind of run down, you know, all that shit. Then in 1991, we're going forward. It was purchased and renovated. So the Victor Hotel officially opened in August of 1992. renovated so the Victor Hotel officially opened in August of 1992. Now there's tons of hauntings. The fourth floor like we said was a hospital but it also became a makeshift morgue at one point as well because of course it did. Okay that's where I thought we were going with this and I was gonna say this is like early

1900s these operations aren't going that well. Exactly. Exactly. How does that even work? Now, I don't, I mean, I don't think they really gave a shit about, you know, a technical refrigerators. I think they just threw people on ice and hope for the best point. Yeah. And because in the winter months, the ground would be too cold to bury people and you couldn't get through.

So anybody who died in the hospital just kind of stay on ice for weeks, sometimes months. Now they did use the elevator to take the bodies up and down. So these, of course, these patients are said to walk around the hospital a ton. Of course they do. Now a lot of people, you know, have seen, you know, disembodied, you know, or heard disembodied voices, mostly on the fourth floor. They see lots of like wavy, wavering figures, are they not sure if they're seeing someone or not? I feel like if I were saying in a hotel that once I had a hospital in a morganit, I'd be like, well, I'm just prepared to see death tonight.

Like there's just no question. Oh yeah like I'm ready to see a bunch of hospital guests with the back of the NASA's hanging out. Yeah did anyone even know? Yeah I love it. And then a lot of people have said they see both doctors and patients because apparently the doctors are hanging out too. But sometimes they see these people without arms, legs, and some without heads. Just hanging around. Oh, that's the line. Yeah.

I'm not here for a hot list ghost. I'm not. What did you say last time? It's checkout time. Nope. Time to check out of the Victor Hotel. Thanks for staying. Yeah, definitely check out.

Check out that point. Again, take me back to the vintage gentleman at the foot of the bed. You love that. Yes, but in your version, he's a doctor and also doesn't have arms. Or a head perhaps. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, so of course, you're going to have a lot of activity in the hallways. There's a lot of activity in the basement, especially in the elevators because that's what they're using to transport all the corpses. Elevators are always weird.

The third floor seems to be a pretty big place in the kitchen. So people see like, you know, again those wavy, kind of creepy ghosty forms, they hear footsteps. Sometimes they'll get this like crazy rush rush of cold air that will just like fly through the kitchen and you know like kitchens are hot. There's like stoves go and ovens everything and they'll just get this blast of cold air. Ooh, that's like helpful. Exactly. Yeah. It's like you ever worked in a kitchen. Shitty. But then like employees say that utensils will get like thrown across the room at them so that's not cool.

Now the most famous ghost that people tend to see is a guy named Eddie. then like employees say that utensils will get like thrown across the room at them. So that's not cool. Now the most famous ghost that people tend to see is a guy named Eddie. Okay. Good old Eddie. Eddie. Oh, Eddie, what's up? So apparently Eddie was a minor. Okay.

And he lived in the hotel. Okay. He wasn't a minor as he like a young child. I heard it. He worked in the most. I didn't even think about. Yeah. He was, he was not a, I even think about it. Uh, yeah. He was not a... I was like, are we gonna mention it?

Or... He was a grown-ass man. He lived in the hotel in Room 301 in the early 1900s. Okay. Now, every morning he would come, you know, rushing out of his room. He got up early because you got to hit those mines early. And he would just come clonkin down the hallway. Clonkin! He's clonkin. We're not here for clonkins. So he'd always running to get to the mines and he would press the elevator to go down. It was one of those like bird cage elevators, one of those old school ones which are really cool.

Oh yeah. One morning the elevator came up, the doors opened and he stepped in but the elevator did not come up with the shaft. So nothing was there and he just plummeted to his death at the bottom of the shaft. Oh, all right. He eddy. That's just a real bad way to start your morning. That's the... Yeah, listen. He would have been more alert if he used his bidet. You know what I'm saying?

Should I have a bid back, man? So apparently his body was placed in room 301 because that's where he was living for viewing after he died. So that's real creepy. I mean, it makes sense, but also now I know that I would never want to stay in that room because that's where someone's had their funeral viewing. Yeah, that's so true. He was like, wake to there. Yeah. Now people will say that the elevator will come up to the

third floor without anyone pressing anything. It comes up all the time and it'll always stop at the third floor. Just stop every single time it will stop on any other floor. No one has to press it. It's just always coming up to the third floor. It's like, this is my stop and also yours. This is your stop always forever. Get your steps in bitch. Get off. Now most of this stuff happens. When do you think 3 a.m. Almost every night. I would not want to stay on floor 3 at 3 a.m. That's a firm pass for me. What will happen is guests hear a lot of loud clomping, like footsteps, heavy boots in the middle of the night,

running down the hallways, always in a rush, Eddie, of course, wore steel toad boots. People also see him in Room 301, which makes a lot of sense. They also see him in the hallways. He seems like he's just like distractedly trying to run to go to work. Oh, maybe, maybe he just like falls down that elevator every morning. Yeah, he doesn't really do a whole lot. He's just stuck in that like time loop. Like groundhog day. Like shitty groundhog day. Yeah, that's awful. It's like he just want to warn him. Like somebody stop him and be like, Eddie, you know, maybe call and stick today.

Take the stairs today, Eddie. Yeah, right? Take another way. Maybe Colin's sick today. Take the stairs today Eddie. Yeah, right? Take another way So the other famous ghost that tends to chill in there is a guy named Charlie And he's a nice ghost of course. He's a very pleasant man. Charlie's are always nice I used to have a Charlie in my house growing up He was like a boy. He was a ghost not like a dog or anything, but we had a ghost named Charlie He was always so kind. He was very good. I loved that.

We had a dog growing up named Charlie. I was gonna say we had a dog. Charlie, he was a good boy. He was such a good boy. And now he's like a spirit dog. He like opens the door sometimes. Maybe that's why most Charlie's are good spirits. Because I imagine most Charlie's are dogs.

Yeah, I think that's just fat. I agree. It's a stat. I agree. So it's a stat. Charleys for the win. Here it is. So this Charlie is super nice. He's seen wearing a black hat, torn jeans, and a plaid shirt.

Which is like pretty hip. Like, good for you, Charlie. He's happening. Yeah. He's hipstering out here. He's described as looking about 60 years old, which is good for him. And he's just funny. People like like he's just this like laugh right It's love him Charlie. I feel like I'd want to hang with him. Yeah, I want to hang out with Annie Lucy and Charlie just like

I have a night have a drink like tell me stories about your eyes I'd like to put them on a room and just be a fly on that wall, right? me. Yeah be a fly on that wall, right? Need, yeah. So in Chris on Christmas in 2003, there was several reports of this young woman who was seen in the lobby of the hotel late at night. That's fine.

Every employee kept seeing her. And she was just walking around looking at the decorations that somebody had put up. And she was very fascinated with them. And when people would be like, oh, which guest is like, which guest is this? It was a night when the hotel was like vacant. There was no one else staying in the hotel. And if there was at one point, then they were not in the lobby. They were in their room. So people were like, cool. That's a compliment to whoever did the

decorating. Someone came from the dead to be like, the shit's type. That's a true compliment. They could be doing anything shit's type. That's a true compliment. They could be doing anything else in eternity. And they came here. Yeah. That's going to be like the ghost of Martha's school. She's just judging. Carsteles.

Look a little overcome. And the last weirdness that happens in the hotel tends to happen in room 307. It just has a lot of weird shit happening. One night guests that were staying in that room heard loud banging like pipes all night and when they woke up in the morning they told the manager, you know, like it's really loud. I don't know if you have like a crazy heating system in that room or what and the managers were like, yeah, there's no pipes in that wall or near your wall at all

and our heating system doesn't climb like that. So that I have no idea what that was. They were like, cool, cool, cool. For us. And in the same room, another guest had put a cup of water down on a table somewhere, and they were going to take an ad bill or something. And they had put it down to go in the bathroom real quick. I guess they put four cups in each room every time they switched guests. So they put the cup down. They came back out, the cup had disappeared completely.

Like just gone. From the whole room, they looked everywhere. They did not ever find this cup. And they know that there was four cups in the room, there was three left and this cup was nowhere to be found. That's so weird. Which is like, they just want, like, I'd be like, are you dehydrated? Like, what? Why do you keep your cup are you like water like what the fuck am that was a good one I and I never

heard of that one before that's crazy I definitely want to go I definitely want to look into it we're going on tour to all these different places a little fun one but there was and there was actually another one I wanted to do but I couldn't find like a ton of haunting stories about it. It's in Victor, Colorado as well. It's nearby to the Victor Hotel. It's called the Black Monarch, and it was a saloon and brothel in its day. It has a lot of like shady history and stuff, but the guy who has done it now has redone it over into this cool like goth awesome hotel and it has four rooms right now but they're gonna add more and the four rooms are all themed out to like that gills one of them is themed Tesla so it's all Tesla

shit one of them is themed H.H. Holmes the other one is themed Elizabeth Boutry Shut the fuck up and the last one is themed black anis it's Fucking a mate and they're all themed out like all of them. Can we go? I'm just jaw dropped wait a minute What's this right? I was going crazy researching this and I had to mention it the black monitor the black monarch That is a boss bitch because the original brothel and now a gentleman's club was called the monitor I'm literally I'm writing this down right now. And in the black anis room, it's like a witchcraft-looking room

because it's from this like legendary creature. And the bed is suspended from the ceiling with ropes. Wait, what is it? The bed is extended from the ceiling? Yeah. We truly, truly need to go to this place. Like, I need to go. I, I'm not saying place like I need to go I

I'm not saying no, I yeah, I'm here. I think we have to go guys I never I I Thousand percent well want to do this for sure and there's four rooms. There's four of us Perfect or room. We just ran out the whole place. Fuck yes. We need to do this. There it is Yeah, post-Rona here we come. I'm ready when Rona's gone We have a lot to do. This Rona tour is gonna be crazy Truly is okay. Well mine's like not long but like long-ish so I'll start I wanted to do something in Canada for you. Yeah I hope you haven't heard of this I look to see if you guys had done this on your show But I didn't see that you had so I hope you haven't heard of this. I look to see if you guys have done this on your show,

but I didn't see that you had, so I hope not. It's the old spaghetti factory. I don't, so here's the thing. I don't know if we've done it because if we did, it wasn't the Nova Scotia one, or maybe it was. Here's my story. So we went, I did a show, and I think it was Houston, Texas, or something, and one of our live shows I covered their version of a spaghetti factory, but it's something It's not the old spaghetti factory. It's a different restaurant that like spaghetti warehouse or something Oh, and I didn't off-brand spaghetti factory I didn't know that until I had already done half of my notes and then realized I was covering something not part of Texas.

Oh no! And my, and like we were performing like, tomorrow. So I ended up at my show doing half hometown notes about a spaghetti restaurant and then also through in some random other haunted spaghetti place. So that's giving me anxiety. It was a real fucking mess. But um, so I don't know if I've done it. I definitely don't remember any of the stuff that happened in it. So, okay, we're good.

Well, that's good. So, just see if any of this sounds familiar. Okay. So, the old spaghetti factory, the original one it was in the US, and it was founded by Gus and Sally Dustin in 1969. Um, and to this day,, its family owned and operated. It's wonderful. Cool.

So the first one that they opened was in Portland, Oregon. How do I say that, Alena? Oregon. Without getting yelled out. Like organs in your body, almost. Oregon, I always say Oregon. Oh. So it opened January 10th, 1969.

And it was in a carriage baggage building, which is like a historic building. So the old spaghetti factory in Canada, they're actually owned by a different family. But all the restaurants like across the world have the same vibe. So the owners of the first ever spaghetti factory, they actually found an old trolley car

and they refurbished it to use in the restaurant as like a way to add a unique dining experience. Ooh, that's cool. Isn't that cool? Yeah. We'll have to post pictures when we post the Instagram for this. It's looks so cool. So now the trolley car dining area is pretty much like a staple in all the restaurants across

the world. They're all decorated pretty similarly, and they feature a ton of historic antiques and artifacts. So in 1970, the Poulos family opened the Old Spaghetti Factory in, I think it's Gastown Vancouver. So they opened the restaurant in the old headquarters of a grocery store.

Okay. I don't know why. I'm like giggling at the name Gastown. Yeah, I'm so excited for this. It might be Gaston, but Gaston's more fun. Like down to Navi. So it's opened in the old headquarters of a grocery store. And today, it's haunted as fuck.

I'm doing it. And also some of the antiques include an old tralli car and a piece of stained glass that actually comes from the Queen's carriage. Oh, that's cool. I like that cool. So the old Charlie car at this location is right in front of the restaurant. It's Trailing Number 53 and it's actually from the year 1904 and it was built by the British Columbia Electric Railway Company. Fun, big mouthful. So it was actually, they were planning on destroying

this particular car, but this guy named Ernie Les Plant saved the car and loaned it to the old spaghetti factory and now it's still there to this day. Got it. So since then, they've had a few paranormal experiences with that trolley car at the restaurant. So one of the most frequent sightings at the restaurant is an old trolley conductor and he's dressed in full uniform. He seems like pretty chill, he's not angry or anything and he doesn't mess with anybody that much, he just moves around police settings and some people speculate that he died underneath where the old spaghetti factory is but that that's probably not the case, because Charlie Cars were on above ground at that time, so it's kind of just speculation.

It's like this might be bullshit, but whatever he died somehow. Cool story though. I appreciate the effort. I'm like, that's actually not true at all. I'm here to set the record straight, but other people just believe that his spirit was already connected to the car,

and that's he just ended up stuck there, I guess. And then like I said, the second theory is more likely because we all know that spirits like to attach themselves to things. Yay! So, right? So people see him in full uniform in the trolley car. Normally, people see him after the restaurant's

already closed for the night, or if it's just about to be closing. And he's always sitting at the same table in the car. And other than the moved play settings, or there's a lot of cold spots in the car, other than that, that's pretty much all he does. So he's chill. Yeah, he's fine.

That's cool. Yeah, he sounds like the kind of goes that, if something were to haunt my area. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay, you can stay. Yeah's he's down to party. Yeah, the second one is like not so chill, okay? So the second ghost that you might run into at the old spaghetti factory is known as the little red man or Lucky Lou. No, no, that's not all right. The little red man. Why is he little in red? So there's actually no explanation for that. In Lucky Lou, neither of those are of you. Yeah, and there's also no explanation really for

like where he came from or why he's attached to the restaurant in the first place. Oh, that's so much worse, I feel like. I know. But Lucky Lou really likes to mess with the ladies that come into the restaurant. I hate all of it. I hate, I don't like this at all. It's like in scream when Billy's like, it's so much scarier when there's no motive. Right. It is. It's always scarier without motive. So he's a pretty small dude who really has a passion

for the color red. He has red hair and a red face. I'm assuming like bluschy like Santa cheeks, but do with your imagination what you will I'm thinking a full blown just like a red a red man just a red like an actually red man. Yeah, I feel like my brain is not letting me go there It's like no, I imagine him and like one of those like those one those like weird suits that like those morph suits Yeah, those like full bodies nothing but red. Yeah. Oh, Oh, oh, oh, that's even scarier I hate. Well, I don't, I don't, I'm not loving them so far.

I'm picturing some like really weird like devilish kind of mascot where he's like painted red and wearing red clothes. Oh, yeah. It's no good either. I think I'm thinking of the morph suit thing because like his personality strikes me as like the guy who crashed the party and no one knows why he's here but like he's not leaving clearly absolutely and anyone who's wearing one of those morph suits strikes me as one of those people there are always crashed in parties left and right yeah well

he's not wearing a morph suit but he's wearing red pants and a red shirt so he might as well be and I don't know if I said it already, but he also has red hair. Um, those damn ginger's he can't trust him. Yes, he cannot trust a ginger. We all know. So a lot of times he passes through the kitchen and calls out to the kitchen workers by their name just to like fuck with them. He is also a lot of times spotted in the woman's bathroom. No, no, no, no. This is one of my biggest fears, like I swear, either if it's like a ghost or a real person,

is somebody peering through like the little crack and a stall? And that's what Lucky Lou does. God damn it! Come on! No, no, I don't like that. It's so invasive. So then like what you open the stall door and then all of a sudden there's no one there. That's even worse. Exactly. Exactly. So you open the door and he's not there. One time a woman got a picture, like her and her friend were in the bathroom and they ran into him. And when it got developed, Lucky Lou was just like a weird like blobby or cute. Was he red? It's actually not a red one. No, surprisingly not. Okay.

So creepy. Yeah. Um, he's also been spotted, like if you're looking in the mirror, you'll see him in like the corner. He also love that you're like, she just ran into him in the bathroom, like he's bumping him like, oh, you know, there he is. Just running into looking in the bathroom. But he'll catch your eye while you're looking in the mirror and then you'll turn around

and he won't be there. So that's him. That's his deal. He's not my favorite. Um, the third ghost that presumably lives in the old spaghetti factory seems a lot more harmless than even the train conductor. She's a little girl that people see sometimes in the front of the restaurant sitting at a table in front of the window. She's by herself and holding a balloon, but for some reason, the fact that she's holding a balloon makes her way more creepy to me. Mm.

Yeah, somehow the balloon makes it not okay. Like, I feel like that adds a different element, and I feel like it's because of Stephen King's it, but I feel like I agree with you. It's extra creepy, but I think it's because all of a sudden, now there's an unfinished story to her just sitting there. Now, it's like, it's like, was she waiting for a birthday party or like?

Yeah, like what occasion left you sitting there with just a little nap? Yeah, it's not. Well, you're gonna get sadder because if you ask her why she's there, she says that she's looking for her mom or like she lost her mom. Damn it. And so then on one occasion, Lina rips her headphones out, she's like, fuck this, I'm done. That's too much. And that brings it down.

That's too much. Oh. So on one occasion, the general manager had a friend like at the restaurant, either eating or just hanging out. And the friend saw the little girl and was like, why, like, what's up? Like, are you waiting for somebody?

And she was like, oh, like I lost my mom, blah, blah, blah. And then the friend went to go tell the manager so they could figure it out. And when they went back to the table, she was gone. Oh, who? It's like, you really got to think of it. Did I accidentally like, like, huff a chemical that I should have today, like, uh... Also, true crime aspect. Because if I thought I saw a little girl who lost her mom, and now she's gone, I'd be like, fuck, I was responsible for that kid.

Like, I was the last... That's what I was thinking. Exactly. I was thinking that, like, if I came out and she was gone, I'd be like, fuck, I was responsible for that kid. Like, I was the last one. That's what I was thinking. Exactly. I was thinking that, like, if I came out and she was gone, I'd be like, well, shit. Like an open investigation to this day. Not only do I have to call the cops,

but now I'm probably going to be the first one questioned. Great. So scary. So that's her deal. She doesn't really do anything other than chill at the front window, telling you she lost her mom. Except ruin your day. Sadness.

I was gonna say except make you cry yeah other than cause a ruckus so the last ghost I saved for last on purpose because he is 150,000 percent somebody I don't ever want to run into oh god is he is he the tall the tall red man is he the tall the big blue man so he's a little boy named Edward, seems harmless. He runs around. Yeah, little boys, come on, little ghost boy. Little boys are never harmless.

They're always the scariest. He runs around the restaurant. Typically, he runs toward the back of the restaurant. And like a lot of the things that he does, he does in the back of the restaurant. He always catches people's attention because one, he's running and two, he's dressed in older clothing. Usually, carter-ray pants, a wool jacket, and a flat cap. Stylin' for a little kid at least. He has stylin' at least, you know.

He's just the younger version of that vintage guy at the hotel. There you go! It's his younger cell. Maybe you'll like him Alena. I'm in it. Oh Jesus. So there's been instances where the closing employee is like going through checking the restaurant. If you've ever worked at a restaurant, it's like the scariest time of night because you're typically by yourself and you're like, I really hope there's nobody in here. And at this restaurant, there is. Great. So one waitress had to run in with Edward that scared her so badly. She literally quit her job at the restaurant. Oh my gosh.

She was closing up at night. And there had been instances in the past where the silverware would be bent up and half. And stuff like that. But she was always just like, OK, that's creepy, but I'll keep working. okay like that's creepy but I'll keep working or like cheer. Just forks bending over themselves for no reason. Yeah like chairs would be on top of tables that like when you walked by a minute ago like that chair was on

the floor because that's where chairs are supposed to. Absolutely not. But this night she was like nope. So she's closing up and she notices a young boy running toward the back of the restaurant. She's like, uh, hi, we're closed. Like, no. And so she follows him and she finds him hiding under a table. And when he looks up at her, he has no fucking eyes. Well, that's all it is for not Canadian that's not Canadian that's not the Canadian way that's decidedly not Canadian that is rude not Canadian at all that's not the spaghetti way man no this is not the old factory way it's not what you're here for oh she literally quit her job the next day she was like sorry I

don't feel comfy working here I'm good I would quit doing a lot of things. That's funny. I would quit looking at children into in their eyes. I would just quit leaving my house all together and talking to other people. So she quit. She's like, bye. Yeah. And after that experience, they brought a psychic in because they're like, all these like crazy things are happening.

Like, why is this all happening here? So the psychic is the one who told everybody that the boy's name is Edward and she says that Edward likely came through a vortex in the restaurant because of all the old artifacts and the antiques that they have housed in one place. Ah a vortex. She explained how a spirit like can connect themselves to things and since there's so many in the space, a vortex was formed and she said that Edward likely came from another realm through the vortex into our realm. Yep. No, so creepy. Yep. You said vortex immediately.

I was like, this kid is not even from this planet. Okay, great. I'm sorry. I keep picturing this little kid in like a Scally cap just coming like launching or tumbling through like this vortex just like whoop! I made a restaurant. There's no way. I have a ride! He's like I'm here for the free bread. What's up? It was a rush pack job and he just forgot his eyes. He left his eyeballs in another world. Right, they fell out.

I mean, I don't know a lot about other realms. Maybe they don't need their eyes there. Maybe who knows? Maybe we're the weird ones. I guess they don't. It's like, it's not necessary in that realm. Eyeball is optional. Oh my God.

But yeah, what's they had to say on set the restaurant after hours? And during the say-ons books fell off the shelves the silver were all hovered over the tables like levitating um The chandelier their chandeliers in the restaurant and they were all shaking and then all the sudden it just stopped When things start levitating, I'm out like Yeah, nope. All right Okay, so I don't need to see anything. I would out like, yeah. Nope. All right, we removed it.

So I don't need to see anything. I would have not stuck around for the rest of that. I would have been like, I'll be in the car. I feel like I got to put that back where it was. Oh shit. Oh, shit. I'd be outy 5,000. It's been real.

I'd be like, you had me at child with no eyes. Why am I still here for day two? As soon as a boy looked at me with no eyes, I'd be like, well, I'm out of here onto the next round. Thinking the eyeless boy would have been my breaking point. Oh, imagine if that's the kid peering at you through the stall without eyes. Oh, no.

Oh, that's so much worse. Like, what's the purpose? You're just doing this to be a dick, man. But also, like, can he see with his mind's eye? Yeah. Maybe he doesn't need eyeball. They're like vestigial dick, man. But also, like, can he see with his mind's eye? Yeah. Maybe he doesn't need eyeballs. They're like vestigial organs, Tim. We don't know what he's capable of.

Maybe he uses the flesh beyond that. Maybe he can see. That's what I'm saying. Hi. We just don't know. Well, that's all like the haunted shit that goes on there. You can eat at the restaurant and see what you experience. Like I said, it's in Vancouver in Gastown, yell at me if I said that wrong.

Gaston, it's at 53 Water Street and apparently it's super affordable and not only ghost-friendly but family-friendly as well. Yay, I will, oh good! Bring all your kids. Yeah, just bring all the kids. Hang out with the kid with no eyes. I'll get a postmates to deliver for me because we don't need to make the trip. I don't need a food. Apparently they still this is just like a cute little like tidbit at the end to like make you happier. They still offer

some of the same sauce recipes from when they first opened and according to an interview done by Elise Yurkowski, one of the favorite menu items is the manager's favorite with spicy meat sauce and misathra cheese, which was a really rare cheese to find back in the day. Oh, a rare cheese. I'm here for a rare cheese. You could only find it at the old spaghetti factory. Yeah, I almost forgot everything else you said. Because now I'm like back. I'm ready to go again

I'm ready. I like to really bring you back down and lift you up with some food I'm ready. I'm ready to get hurt by some ghosts over there. It's my way. Let's get it out of it to the Rona tour and you cap it off with a spicy meat sauce. I was like, huh, I'm in That's where I was. You had me a spicy meat sauce. Spicy meat sauce. Hell yes You got to love a spicy meat sauce. I was reading all that and I was like, okay, okay, yeah, that's creepy and then the kid with no eyes and I was like, gotta do this. He really is the main attraction to the story.

Yeah. Oh yeah, he's the main event. You buried that lead. Well, you really love it. Honestly. And then you just got to talk about the original sauces. Yeah. I'm so sad this is over. This was so much fun. I know. I'm sad this is over. I listen, I'm sorry it's over, but

also I again apologize for how long my story was, but I truly I didn't know. I'm kind of like jealous. It gets to like air on your episode because I was like, this is a dirty shit. I was like, I can't believe it. It like air on your episode because I was like this is a doozy shit I was like I can't believe it's such a good one I was like first of all We I definitely want to go one day and if either of us if I go I'll make sure to let you guys know like how Lucy is Cuz I feel like I'd have to ask for her room specifically cuz she just wants to eat candy It's not on her goddamn chair. That's what I want. That's what we all want

Yeah, I just want to sit and eat candy and tell people to get the hell out of that. You can do that together. No voice allowed. Sounds like a party. Is that it? I'm in. It sounds amazing. And why don't you tell us where we can find you? Yes. I so you can listen up my podcast and that's why we drink where and that's why you drink.com. You can also find us on Spotify iTunes. Pretty much wherever you're currently listening you can find us And that's pretty much what's going on right now. We have our Tori schedule, so we've got some shows in 2021 I think I'm gonna have to be sure at this point so But if there are any availability, please come we have a very good show

I'm not we are not telling people what the format is, but it's very good. It's very different than the last show if you've ever come to our previous tour. But we worked really hard on it. We're very proud of it. Yes, so we're so excited to see it. You can't wait.

Yeah, yeah. And everybody go listen to it, and that's why we drink because it is an amazing podcast and you will love it if you haven't already. Yes, you can. I started listening to your podcast before Alina and I even had a podcast. So I'm very honored. I and thank you for having me because I have been listening to you guys for a while.

So I'm finally on the other end of it where I'm like, I feel like I know you guys, but you don't know me. So but maybe you do because you listen to our show. Exactly how we feel. We can just we can just skip the awkward getting to know you phase, because we already know each other. Yeah, we're all friends. We're already friends. It's already happened.

Exactly. We can all have virtual coffee, like we're saying. Yeah. I definitely want that. I definitely want to have a FaceTime team. Yeah. It's virtual coffee. We got to do it.

Yes, 100%. Incredible. All right, guys, well, as always, we hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it We're but that's so weird that you do a crossover episode with emphram and that's why we drink and they tell you all about Really cool ghost stories and we want to go meet Lucy all together It's gonna be so much fun and then Elena tells you about minors and then everybody falls through an elevator And then I tell you about a kid with the nois and then we just hope you don't keep that weird. Bye

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