Morbid - Episode 159: Virtual Live Show! Texarkana Moonlight Murders & The New Orleans Trunk Murders

Episode Date: July 26, 2020

Looks at this! This is our very first virtual live show from July 23, 2020 held at AS220 in Providence RI. Alaina covers the Texarkana Moonlight Murders and goes over all the fine details with her 1940’s magnifying glass! Ash takes us to New Orleans and covers the Trunk Murders of the 1920s! Get ready for a wild ride back in time. We apologize for the somewhat subpar audio but we were at the mercy of someone else's microphones!  Make sure you check out our new Parcast original show, Crime Countdown! Trust us Weirdos, you will love it! :) Thanks to our sponsors!  Upstart.com/morbid See why Upstart has a 4.9 out of 5 rating on Trustpilot and hurry to Upstart.com/morbid to find out HOW LOW your Upstart rate can be. Checking your rate only takes a few minutes! *Your loan amount will be determined based on your credit, income, and certain other information provided in your loan application. Not all applicants will qualify for the full amount. Hello fresh!! Go to HelloFresh.com/80morbid and use code 80morbid to get a total of $80 off, including free shipping on your first box. Additional restrictions apply, please visit HelloFresh.com for more details See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So we wanted to give you this. We wanted to give you it, but in that same vein, it was our first virtual live show, so we were working with microphones that are not ours. Not ours. Did not have a pop shield in front of it. So our family group Texas family, you know what I mean? Our family group Texas is popping right now.

But yes, so there are a couple of like, polosives that are like, po-po-po, and they're gonna be all that. Oh my God. You know what it is? I just sent a gift of like Plosives that are like popo and they're gonna be oh my god You know what it is. I just sent a gift of two chains So that's what it is So we just wanted to warn you guys ahead of time. It's not for the entire time There's my little bead that I was wearing kept hitting the microphone to you. So you might hear that

There's just a couple little moments that you might be like what's that sound? But I promise it's worth it You know again, this is an S like sitting in our like pod lab doing this There's just a couple of little moments that you might be like, what's that sound? But I promise it's worth it. It's worth it. You know, again, this is an S like sitting in our like pod lab doing this. So we apologize for the audio quality. But we're doing our best here. So with that being said, enjoy the live stream. Please enjoy it. Bye.

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What's up? Guys, this is strange. It should be awesome because COVID sucks. It does. At least we can do this, and we can all be together. Yay. Exactly. So yeah, so this is kind of weird, but we're

going to keep it pretty much the same that we do all the time where I'm gonna do my Probably way too long case cool cool cool, and then Ash is going to do her case, which is probably not that long We would do trivia like we do with our other live shows, but like we can't so We'll try to work that into the next one because hopefully this is the first of many live streams. We can send you all that little clicker stance or with next time. Yeah. And I don't know if anybody sitting on their couch right now is wondering like what the hell are you wearing?

What's happening? What's going on? This is just what we wear to live shows. This is just who we are. I don't know. I always just like this. Yes. Obviously.

Yeah. That is Ash as a person. Honestly, that's Ash as a person. Honestly, that's you as a person. So we decided to theme this out because everything's a bummer, so why not wear costumes? Exactly. That makes everything better. So my case is from the 40s, so I decided to be like a 40s detective. Check out that magnifying glass.

Check it. Oh, look at that eyeball. And Ash is from, I can't tell what decade she's from. Boop boop. Biddo. She's doing a 20s crop. I don't know if you could tell. Just in case you weren't sure.

Just in case you weren't sure. But this is going to be fun. We hope that we're going to do this again. Yes. This is the first of many we're hoping. So everyone cross their fingers. Whoo. This works.

Everybody stay put. All right. So I think we should just jump into our case. I feel like that's what the people are here for. Unless we should just talk about our outfits some more. I mean, check out this boa. Also, just as a side note before I start my case, we kind of made our sets split down the middle. I don't know if anybody can tell.

It's like half-ash- and half alena centric. So that's fun. We have like a David Bowie candle on your side. Yeah, you know there's a Bill and I one down there. A lot of glam on my side. Not sure if you can see that. Hope you guys liked it because it took a long time to put together. It did. But um so I'm going to start my case. So I don't know if you guys could tell from the intro video, but I'm going to be doing the Texarkanna moonlight murders Which is wild normally I would pause for yay Yeah, you any hello We got it on the task

So you guys might know this case from the movies that were made about it, the town that dreaded sundown. I'm going to talk about that later, especially the infamous Trombone scene. That will mess you up. If you haven't seen that movie and you watch it tonight after this, just like a four-warning that will mess you up. It's going to stay with you. Yeah, that doesn't go away. So we're going to start the case here.

I feel like that would make you so So we're gonna start the case here. I feel like that would make you so dizzy if you did that the whole time. And I'm gonna get sick. Uh, so I just go to start it off. But I actually stole that joke from Annie, so I gotta give her a good one. I didn't even know that. So this is the Texar Canemun Light Martyrs. I think it's kind of more of a groovy name than the actual crimes are.

I 100% agree with you. It's one of those situations where the name is like way too cool for what actually happened. What actually happened was pretty terrible. Big bummer. The moon has no place in this. So these murders were a series of eight attacks and they resulted in five brutal killings

and they took place in 1946, which is why I'm dressed like the 40s. I don't know if they talked like that back then, but... I definitely did that shoulder thing that you just said. I feel like everybody... They were like, it's the 40s. Look at my shoulders. It's the 40s. That might have been more 20s because it's very flapper-esque.

Yeah, that's how you move your Bella. Exactly. So this was a quick one. It wasn't like it took months and months or went on for years. This was like blink and you missed it situation. Four murders happened in only three months. Like that's kind of crazy. Yeah, it was boom boom.

No cooling off period, no nothing. It made that noise. It was like boom boom. It was like yikes, yikes, yikes. And this perp, yeah perp, you see? This perp attacked young couples on lovers lanes. Oh, so he waged a war on love. Love.

So he was like, what is love? We hate him. We hate him. And then he was like, I'm gonna hurt you. Oh no. No good. So Texarkana is the twin cities. Because I know when I first heard this case,

I was like, what is Texarkana? What kind of stuff? I remember we were first heard this case I was like what is Texas Arcana? I remember we were watching the movie and I was like Texas Arwada. Texas Arwada. I was like is it Texas or is it Arkansas? It is neither. So it's the Twin Cities. It was established December 8th 1873. The name's origin is kind of mysterious.

The most accepted origin story about why it's called Texarkana is because it's located on the state line between Bowie County, Texas and Miller County, Arkansas. So they made a compromise. But that's where you get the Texark part. Where do you get the Anna? Where do you get it? A woman named Anna close to Santa. It's really close to the Louisiana border. Oh yeah. So that's where you get the Anna text arc, Anna. And that was your geography lesson with Alana. I feel like you should know, that's all. And you know, that's, that's a nice story. It kind of like wraps it up cleanly. It makes it like, I gotta get that. But there are other orange and stories that people like to like

float around. You got a sprinkle in an urban legend. There's one that's like about a steamboat called the Texarkana, but like, Bore, yeah, that kind of sucks. One I love is about a guy named Swindle. I'm here for it already. And he was a business man. Oh, business man. Oh, business man.

He's a business man. He's a business man. He's a business man. He's a business man. He's a business man. He's a business man. He was running a general store in Louisiana and he became known for creating and selling a drink called Texarkana Bitters.

And boo, I love Bitters. The name was born. There it is. Don't think that's what happened at all, but it's a fun story. I like that. I like Swindle. And then there's one that a lot of people like as well and it has to do with the railway system there. People say that when the iron mountain, southern and St. Louis Railroad, excuse me, St. Louis Railroad, we're being built along a line through the area that is now Texarkana, the railway surveyor named Colonel Gus Noble, the name alone. Actually was the one who came up with the name and he just took a huge sign, just plopped it in the earth and was like, it's town's name is Texarkana now.

He seems like a dad, that's like a dad joke. Well and I think people were like, well your name is Gus, so yeah. I believe you Gus. Okay, this town is Colonel Gus. Like you got it. Colonel Gus. So they just went with it. And again, I'm just telling you this because, you know, three of these murders happened on the Texas side of town, and one happened on the Arkansas side of town, and like the other one happened here and there. So did that make it kind of like messy? It did a look, not really.

OK, they worked together. But I just didn't want anybody to be like, wait, a second, what the Texas side, the Arkansas side? Right, right, right. I give you my little geography history lessons. That's all. I love it. You know me. You all know me. I hear you. Yep. You know me. Yeah. See? You know me. So it's strange guys, but we're having fun. This is fun. I like this

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So this killer was never caught. I know that messes me up. This is an unsolved case. We love an unsolved case. We hate an unsolved case. That's the thing. We want to solve it. Will we by the end of the night guys? What do you think? I have a magnifying glass the thing. We want to solve it. Will we by the end of the night, guys? What do you think? I have a magnifying glass, so I think we can solve it. I am not dressed to solve a case tonight.

I'm pretty sure I am. I'm pretty sure I am. And I'm pretty sure all you need is a magnifying glass. Some tights with a seam up the back. I mean, let's be real. Some softables choose if I'm out. If anything, you would be the one solving the case and I would be the one tripping over my heels like I'm here I'm here. I'm here. Do I get credit? That's right. That's right. That is exactly what would happen

So not only did this case itself itself get a name that is like way too cool for reality But the killer also was one of those who got a nickname that was way too cool for him Oh, I don't remember his nickname Well, he was called the phantom killer or the phantom slayer. I like the phantom slayer better. Which it's it makes him sound too mysterious and like well, he was mysterious. He didn't get caught. But I don't like that. Like stop naming them cool mysterious things. Yeah, because they like that. And they like cut out the newspaper clippings and put them on their fridge. Yeah, and you know what? And besides the obvious reasons why he sucks like he kills people. Yes, he sucks. That'll do it.

He also wore a burlap sack on his head with the eyes and the mouth cut out. Okay, when he did it, which... What? I'm just like assuming, I don't know why I'm assuming this, but I'm assuming it's kind of hot in Texarkana. What's in it? It makes an ass out of you and me. Can you say ass live? I don't know. You can, sure.

But don't you think it'd be really hot under there in Texas and Arkansas and Arkansas? I think it would. I think it would. Hey Texas and Arkansas and Arkansas. Let us know. So we're gonna start with the crimes. Are you all ready? Sit down. All right. He's ready. You're all ready. Somebody over there is ready. I bet. Okay. Somebody over there is ready. I bet. Somebody outside is ready. They're ready. I know it.

So February 22nd, 1946. That's where we start. Here we are. Time warp. Here we go. There you are. We're here. Cool.

So sometime around midnight, I don't know where this crazy metal box came. But here we are. I got one, too. So sometime around midnight, 25-year-old Jimmy Hollis and 19-year-old Mary Jean Larry parked in their car just being young just being in love. Oh you know I'm already gonna be sad. Just being just parking in the woods trying to you know do their things hang out in the car. I don't know what

you know. I'm not gonna speculate. You know just hang out in their car. Well they were both actually married to other people when they met what they were doing. I'm not going to speculate. You know, just hang out in their car. Well, they were both actually married to other people when they met, but they were both in the process of a divorce. So it was OK. So it was nothing scandalous. Totally fine. They had gone to a drive in movie,

and it was actually like a double date with Jimmy's younger brother Bob. And his date, it was very wholesome. Yeah, that's real cute. The wholesomeist. Everything about this, every single crime you see in this case is so wholesome. It starts off so wholesome and it's terrible. The crime is so wholesome.

The word is just so wholesome. No, that's not it at all. No, no, no. It starts off very wholesome. Everything was going swimmingly on their date. They dropped Bob and his date off, and then because things were going swimmingly, they decided to drive into a lovaz lane. Oh my God, so cute. You know, they're having a great day.

Lovers Lane, so hot right now. So hot right now. So at one point, Jimmy got out of the car and he said that he was getting out to look at the stars. Wow, wholesome as fuck. People were like confused about this at first when they were asking, they're like, why did you get out of the car to look at the stars? But you know what, have you ever seen the stars away from city lights? Because you get out of the car to look at them. That shit is exhilarating, you should do it. So I think that's exactly what he was doing.

I get it, Jimmy. So he got out, he's standing in the middle of a dirt roadway, very isolated, he's looking up at the stars. And suddenly, there's a flashlight just shown in his face, right in his eyeballs. Oh, no good. That will startle you. And you know what happens? Like right now those lights are gone.

Yeah, there's, I can't see behind those lights. There's a flashlight in my face. Yes, I get it. That gives me golden state killer vibes. It does, yeah. Like, blinding with a flashlight. It's a fear tactic. It really is. It's not cool.

So the man that was doing this was a total asshole and just started yelling at him. And in fact, the first thing he said to poor Jimmy who was just looking at the star, just hanging out, was, and I quote, take your fucking pants off. No. Can you imagine you're just looking up at the stars in the middle of a dirt roadway on your date

that's gone great? No. And some man walks up to you, blinds you with a flashlight and is like, take your fucking pants off. No, I won't imagine that. Thank you for asking. No, thank you. No, that's the scariers you with a flashlight and is like, take your fucking pants off. No, I won't imagine that. Thank you for asking. No, thank you. No, that's the scarier shit ever.

So Jimmy was like, I think you have the wrong guy. What you called the wrong number. We have not discussed removing my pants before now. So he was like, the guy got pissed. Oh no. Because he was like, no, I have the right guy. And he was like, dude, I don't want to kill you. But I will if you don't take your fucking pants off.

So what? Yeah, yeah, like I don't know what that was all about. I don't really know. He did this a lot. That's so strange. According to the book The Phantom Killer by James Presley, you know I love a book. She loves books. I love sliding a book. Jimmy said he immediately, which this just like broke my heart. Oh no. So you already hold on to your hearts

Jimmy immediately started to think what would take what would Dick Tracy do? Like oh my god stop it up your Jimmy moment. He's so pure. I can't handle it So he finally he's like all right I'm gonna take off my pants So he finally gets his pants off to try to make this guy calm down. And as soon as he gets his pants off, does what he wants, the phantom hits him in the head twice with some metal object. They think it's like a lead pipe or a trumpet, not a trumpet. That comes later. Oh, sorry. You're jumping in. Jumping. Wrong information. I think it was like a lead pipe is what they think.

It was or possibly a pistol, but they lean more towards lead pipe. OK. He fell straight to the ground. And the phantom started kicking him and stomping on his chest. Oh my god. Like just kicking the shit out of him.

That's a lot. Yeah. Later, Jimmy said he felt metal spikes on the bottoms of his boots. So he came prepared. Obviously came prepared for this. With metal spikes on the bottoms of his like boots. So he like came prepared, obviously came prepared for this. With metal spikes on the butt like what? How do you even do that? Meanwhile, poor Mary is still in the car. And she just thinks Jimmy's looking at the stars.

Where is she screaming and crying? Okay, she heard this. See what's happening. Because Jimmy wasn't like far away. He was right there. Okay. And she said she heard some like crack. And she thought that like she was like,

I didn't know what I thought, but what she had heard was Jimmy Skullcrap. Oh, no. Yes. What I wouldn't give to her all of you go seriously. But yes, that's nasty. Yeah, not good. Yeah.

She gets out of the car and like a true badass. She grabs Jimmy's wallet out of his pants on the ground and she's like, look, he doesn't have any money. We're stopped. Because she's assuming this guy wants money, because what else does he want? So he screams that you're a liar. And then he's like, let's go get your purse. And she's like, I don't have a purse on me.

I was on a date and he was being a gentleman and he was paying for it. She's like, I didn't bring my purse because dates call for free dinner. Yeah, she was like, I am not freeing my purse. Thank you. And when she didn't have a purse on her, he took what she said, felt like a lead pipe and slammed her across the head with it. Oh my God.

She went down and then he then, and this is horrifying. I mean, was it not all else? It was, but it gets worse. She goes down, he hit her with the lead pipe, she goes down and he gets right in her face and he just screams take off run. Okay, bye. Lake, sir, you just hit me in the head.

Bye, you just incapacitated me. That's why he did it though, because he's like, you can't run. Like I read that and I was like, that's terrifying. Also that's like in your nightmares when you can't run. Like I read that and I was like, ah, that's terrifying. Also, that's like in your nightmares when you can't run.

Oh, that's exactly it. Oh. So she said somehow she got back up after being hit in the head with a metal pipe. Wow. Started running. She's in like heels and a dress, like just running down the road.

She looks like Elena right now. Exactly. And she runs off and like beers off somewhere. And he yells after her, not that way, go up the road. What? Yeah. Why is he giving her direction? So she was like, case her.

So she just sounds good. And he says, and she said she peeked back behind her. And she could see him kicking and stomping Jimmy, like just go into town. This makes no sense. Yeah. It's insane. So she's sense. Yeah, it's insane. So she's running her ass off down the road.

Just hoping that he's not going to turn the pistol and just shoot her. Or just like run after her. Because she saw that he had a pistol. Yeah. He can just shoot her while she's running. And she's screaming, stumbling, then out of nowhere.

What? He stops beating and stomping, Jimmy. Does he start running at her? It takes off. You just ruined my moment. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I didn't know that that was happening. But he takes off running at her.

That just made me want to barf. Like, stops what he's doing, just looks up at her and then takes off running. Guys, I was like, I can't. That's a nightmare. And obviously he caught up with her pretty quickly because again, she's one been hit in the head. Right.

She has heels on. She's like, it's dark. She has no idea where she is probably. Knows where he's going apparently. So he catches up to her super quick and asks her why the hell she was running. Because you fucking told me to. And she's like, dude, you told me to run.

And he goes, you're a goddamn liar. I feel like you're very GD-confusing. I don't like you. Oh my God. I'd be like, you know what? Maybe I am. Maybe I am a liar. I don't know.

I'm like, I don't even know what I'd be like. I'm like, I don't even know what I'd be like. So she's like, I was just trying to make out with this bespeckled man. He bought me dinner. We had a good time. From the bottom floor. The stars. So she was just paralyzed with fear at this point.

She's like, I don't even know what to do. And after calling her a liar, he took the lead pipe and crushed her head again with it as hard as he could. So we also, she's recounting this story and so is Jimmy. They live. What? So she fell down bleeding from this giant head wound and then he pulled her underwear off.

Oh, no. Yeah. Why did you have to know? Well, this is really rough guys. So like, trigger warning. Elena really loves to like mess people up. I do. I'm sorry.

This isn't my fault. It's just part of the case and it's a rough one. Go ahead. So he pulled her underwear off and what she thinks he did was assault her with the pistol. Yes, she literally at that point she said she literally begged him to kill her. Yep, and then he was just gone. Wow. Just gone like a phantom and she said later she wondered if someone had driven by but she didn't know for sure how it happened. Like she was like, well because her skull was crushed in.

Yeah. He just left her in the road bleeding assaulted. And then Jimmy is like so far away and she doesn't know where Jimmy is. She is. So, but here's the thing. What? Mary doesn't just lay there convolessing

as I probably would have done. I feel like I'm doing right now. Oh my God. She immediately thought of Jimmy. Like immediately the thought was Jimmy and she was like, I gotta get him now. Oh my God. She immediately thought of Jimmy. Like immediately the thought was Jimmy and she was like, I gotta get him help. Oh my God. Love.

I hope that you tell me that they fell in love forever. They gave it a shot. So she ran to a home. They gave it their best shot. I said, this is a very upsetting case. She made it. So she ran to a home, scream, knock on the door, screaming for someone to get out.

A man on set inside is like, whoa, any calls in the sheriff. Right, because she's probably covered in blood also. Oh, yeah. So while this is happening, you know, like she might be covered in blood. No, I might she is. She's definitely a... So while this is happening, Jimmy has somehow lived through all of this. Woke up and was with it enough to remember everything, how would it happen? What?

Yeah. And so now he's terrified, though, because he's in the middle of the pitch black, up and was with it enough to remember everything how it had happened. What? Yeah. And so now he's terrified though, because he's in the middle of the pitch black, in the middle of the road, in the middle of the woods. Well, and he probably doesn't even know how long it's been since he. He has no pants on. Oh my God. And his glasses were thrown somewhere.

And he had sea. Yeah, and he's bleeding profusely from head wounds. So he ends up crawling to the main road, like getting himself crawled to the main road. Yeah, crazy. Flags down a car. A man and woman get out, he begs them. He's like, hi, look at me. I am clearly in distress. Yeah. And so he's like, please just get me to the hospital. And the woman looks completely unfazed, which is very strange. And he said the guy driving the car yelled at him not to get in the car because he didn't want blood on his seats. What an asshole, are you kidding me?

Wow, is there? Like yikes. Like your car sucks, let me in, I'm dying. But then he was like, I'll get you an ambulance. I'll call. Gee, thanks. Wow. Well, luckily, because Mary was such a badass,

an ambulance immediately pulled up. Because she already called. Because she already had the neighbor call. So she didn't need that guy. I feel like they're meant to be. Well, police were never able to locate this dude that was said he would call an ambulance. Which is interesting, because also what were you

just doing in that area? Yeah, like what were you? So Jimmy went into a coma for a week. Wow. Mary was able to really only describe the mask that the guy was wearing and his voice, which she said, she said she thought it belonged to a black man. Okay.

They originally considered it to be a jilted lover situation, but none of that panned out. Jimmy was released 15 days later, and he was struggling with nightmares, like hallucinations. Obviously. I mean, he was in bad shape. Right. I was interrogated after this, after he was released. Obviously. I mean, he was in bad shape. Right.

He was interrogated after this, after he was released. And he told police, quote, I think he is a young white man, Oh. Not over 30 years old, and he's desperate. Now, he said that he didn't think he was wearing a mask. Well, maybe he like wasn't at first. And he said, he was like, what I could see was that he wasn't wearing a mask.

And he said, so now it's two different ports. Well, he's also been having hallucinations at this point. So true, but it's like, I don't know. I mean, Jimmy is very adamant that it was a white man and he didn't, he wasn't positive about the mask, but he said it was a white man, I could tell. Okay, she's positive, it was a black man. Okay, so that's weird. Well, and she said he's wearing a mask. So it's like you're only going

off a voice, which is like, which is not a good indicator. Yeah, that's stupid. So that's all they came out of that that I mean they couldn't find any clues nothing. So all they have is the two of them saying what they thought it was. So now they're like, oh shit. Let's hope this doesn't happen again. That's... Well then, way to be hopeful, that's our cannot. Let's try. So, 29-year-old Richard Griffin, a Navy vet, had begun dating 17-year-old Polly Ann Moore in February 1946. KK. I know everybody's like, whoo good.

It was the 40s. The age gap was not a big difference at this point. No. You got married when you were like 19. Yeah, so it just wasn't like scandalist or anything back then. On March 23rd 1946, they went out of date and Richard's car. Two. A car date.

This was the kind of, this was a kind of double date situation. Again, it's weird that they only kind of start that way. Did they go to the drive-in too? Well, they were meeting Richard's sister and her boyfriend at a restaurant, and then they were going to a movie. Because really, that's all you could do back then. Right.

So after eating dinner, they split and Richard and Polly were headed to the movie, and the other two were going somewhere else. Gotcha. They got through the movie, having a great night, then they decided to have a nightcap snack at a cafe until like 2 a.m. Hell yeah. Which a lot of these couples stay out until like 2 a.m. and I'm like, get it. Well they're young, they're in love, they're hungry. Like wow, I can't stand that long. So they were driving back to Polly's house when they turned off into a lover's lane. Because the stalls...

Love, it was going well. So, they were there for probably, you know, they were there for a bit, you know, doing things like hanging out in the car. Reading poetry, high-fiving each other. Things you do on a lover's lane. Elbow bump these days. I've been to so many, obviously. The man in that. So, then another car pulls up next to them. No, thank you. And they're thinking like, oh, it's just another smitten couple. No, I don't even like when I'm like in my apartment and another car pulls up next to me.

I'm like, it's okay. I'll leave. It's fine. You live here. Well, you you own this now. It's cool. So the man in that car snuck up on them. Yes. And he put a pistol into the window. Oh my God. He yelled it Richard to take his pants off. What's up with the pants? I don't know. What's with the pants? Are you watching right now, Phantom Slayer? No, he did.

He did. What's with the pants? So he tells him to take off his pants and then immediately shot him twice in the back of the head. So what are you going to do with his pants? Great blood everywhere. All inside the car. All it's gross. That's where people aren't positive how he got poly out of the car.

Because nobody survives this to tell you. Well, he probably just like dragged her out. It seems like he could do whatever you wanted. Well, what's weird is he got her out of the car and he put her on a blanket outside of the car and shot her twice there. What? No, maybe she tried to get out of the car to run. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe.

But there was no sexual assault noted. OK. She wasn't found on the blanket, though. So how did they know the blanket was there? Well, I'll tell you. I had a feeling. They only know that he shot her there because the blood had soaked through the blanket

and into the ground below. There was a big, huge puddle of blood there. Yeah. But she was found in the car. So they knew that she was definitely shot there. He had shot her and then placed her back in the car just sitting up like she was alive. Like he staged her.

He staged her. Please? She was like slumped over. Terrifying. They were not found until the next day when a passing driver saw them and thought it looked weird. Like they were just passing by the car and they were like, that's a little strange. So they called the police and a huge crowd came.

That's never good. They're recording off the scene. I definitely would have been there. A huge crowd came to destroy evidence. I would have been among them. All they had to go on was the bullets and maybe like some partial fingerprints on the car, but they didn't even really know what they had at this point. The Ballistics Report from the Texas Department of Public Safety's Bureau of Identification and Records

said the gun was a 32 automatic pistol. It had six lands and grooves with a left hand twist. Okay, I learned about these things in my anthropology class. Does that mean he's left handed? Not sure. Cool. But something like, it was something like a cult, I guess. Oh, okay, gotcha.

They kept this evidence to compare to the last one, basically. To see. They can talk to Jimmy and Mary and see if they could tell anything about the pistol. Right. And then maybe, I mean, they don't want this to happen, but if it happens again, they can compare at least. Yep, yep.

A $500 reward was posted. They already had interviewed more than 50 people in four days after the murders. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. This guy is illegitimate phantom. So it just boom, nothing happened.

Went away until he struck again, right? 16-year-old Paul Martin was from Kill Gore. And he was well liked. His friends described him as the sweetest sweetest. And we really saw someone. Quote, a short boy with the best attitude you ever saw. Oh my God. I don't think he had an enemy in the world.

Everybody loved him, and he just loved people. Wow, put a knife through my heart. Cool, thanks. It's not going to end well, unfortunately. Betty Jo Booker was 15 years old. Wow. This was the youngest Phantom victim on the Aung Sha. She was super smart, super driven.

She had a part-time job at 15, which was very early back then, and especially a girl. Yeah. She was a huge thing. She was also getting straight A's, and she also played the saxophone in an orchestra. She was doing the damn thing. Yeah. She was doing the damn thing. She and her mother Bessie were literally best friends. Betty and Bessie. Betty and Bessie. That's the cutest thing ever. The closest you could be. They had suffered a lot of tragedies together. Betty Jo's father died very young. He was like 33, I think.

Oh wow. And it was when she was really young. And then her older brother also died at 16. Oh my God. This poor mom now, she lost everything with everybody, everything. So they were very close to each other, just mostly out of survivors. Because that's all they had. They were just best friends.

Her mother later described their relationship as quote, I worshiped her. Oh, wow. Yeah, that made my heart do a little thing. You just stab you in the heart right back. Thanks for that. Paul was smitten with Betty Jo. Stop.

Smitten, he loved her. Oh, I love love. He had like a plan. He was gonna woo her. And on April 12th, he was in town from Kilgore. In the town where Betty Jo lived. So he had plans. He was like, I'm coming to town.

Oh my God, I'm gonna take you on a date. I'm gonna take her to the movie, a midnight movie at that special midnight movie at the Paramount Theater. Wow. And she was going to be playing with her bands that night because she's awesome. Because she's doing it. And she was like, I'm going to pick you up after your band, like your band playing, what's that called, a show? A concert.

That thing, the instrument. Yeah, it was a show. Thanks for that laugh. I was going to say we got a laugh. Thanks for that laugh. I was gonna say we got a laugh. Thanks for that laugh. Everybody at home is like a concert. It's a show, you idiot. All right, yeah, a band concert, okay.

And so it ended up going much later, past the midnight movie thing. Because Betty was great. And I'm pretty sure Paul was like with some other friends, they were planning to go to the movie and he was like, I'm not gonna go to the movie. I'm gonna go get Betty Jo. Stop.

Like he's just a swimmer. I keep telling you to stop, I don't mean to. Stop it. Stop. So she didn't get out until like a little after 1am and he waited outside of the VFW where she played to pick her up. That's romantic.

And also, wow, what a long band show. It was a very, that's what I'm talking about. A lot of these, it's like 15 year olds are out at like 1am and then show. Yeah, Ma would have been like get your ass home and Ma if you're watching am I right? It's she's right. Yeah I'm right. And and the thing is too it's she wasn't even like doing this band thing until one a.m. then going straight home. She's going on a date after. They were going out and it was like what? What time did things close?

Get it, girl. Never. Because it was so late, obviously, they couldn't make the midnight movie. But he had waited patiently like a freaking prince. Because he really loves her. A prince. He was.

So they were planning to maybe grab a snack or something, hang a bit before going home. But Betty Jill had a routine. Yes. After she did her band things, those things that bands do, her concerts. After she did that, she would always drop off her saxophone at home before she did anything else. Yeah, because she never took it with her.

Why would you want to lug that around? One, she loves her saxophone and two, it was very expensive. She didn't want to have to deal with the responsibility of like lugging it places. Yeah. So she asked Paul, you know, can we drop it off in my home? And then we can go out. And he was like, sure, because she's wonderful. Why not?

Sure, because I love you. Because I love you, because I'm smitten. So, but on the way there, he was like, all right, we're going to go there. We're going to go home and we're going to drop off your saxophone. But like, maybe we can just take a little dip off the side real quick. Oh no. Don't do it. Don't do it.

Spring Lake Park for a bit and just hang. You don't have to. And then we'll go drop off your saxophone. And then they were figuring that I guess some of her friends were having a slumber party and they were gonna stop by that. Like they were on the move. They were just gonna go hang out there for a minute. They were moose and chakers.

They were just, they were doing it. Another minute. They were moose and shakers. They were just, they were doing it. Another laugh. They were planning. They got it again. So they parked and just, you know, looked into each other's eyes. They just parked and moved and shaked. Because there's some freaking wholesome. They were probably just like,

Babe. You're cute. I got you, babe. That's too soon. I got you, that is too soon. But I like it. I like it. I like what your head's at.

So as they sat, a car pulled up next to them again No, nope. I'll leave again. I have not been to many lovers lanes in my time That guy has that motorcycle He's like room-room lovers lane I'll tell you about a lover's lane if you're watching guy on motorcycle you we know you So but I'm saying if somebody pulls up next to you after reading this case, just get the hell out of there. I already do. Don't worry. I already do when I'm out of this lane.

I already do when I'm home. You frequent them often, I guess. So, somebody pulls up next to them. A man gets out, walks over to Paul's side of the car, and shows them a gun. Which must be the scariest thing ever. I can't fathom somebody just being like, look what I have. No, it's like a movie.

It is. So the next morning before 6am, Mr. I'm sorry, nope, I thought I skipped something, but I didn't. So the next morning, the reason we don't have like a clear picture of what comes next is because they did not survive. Right.

But the next morning before before 6 a.m., Mr. and Mrs. Weaver are too like wholesome this little couple. Leave it to Weaver. They take their child on a walk, and I think they were going to like grandma's house. Oh, no. End up finding Paul's body.

That's not good. Paul was shot four times. Once in the head, once in the face, once in the right hand, and once in the shoulder. And you know the right hand was probably putting up the hand to stop. That always messes with me though. It does because it just it makes you picture like defense. Right.

You know, so Sheriff Bill Presley and Texas Police Chief Jack Rennels were first on scene. They noted that there was blood across the street from where Paul lay and they thought he might have crawled across the street to try to get help. And then died where he was found. God. Which again, makes it awful. Very heavy case.

It's a very heavy case. That's why we picked such a life-hearted set. So no one knew Betty Jo was even with him, except her parents and some of her friends. So the police weren't even looking for her initially. They found Paul and they were like, well, this is just, he got killed. and some of her friends. So the police weren't even looking for her initially. Oh, no. They found Paul and they were like, well, this is just, he got killed. They didn't realize Betty Jo was in the car.

Oh, no. And then a search party is launched. It's six hours and suddenly they find Betty Jo. Because they started looking for her because her friends from the night before were like, oh, no, she was with Paul. Right. And then her parents were like,

yeah, she didn't come home. So that's not good. So they find Betty Jo, six hours later, two miles away. What? Yeah. Do they think she like tried to get away? Or do they think she was brought? No, I think she was brought.

Or maybe she did try to get away, but either way, it's a very strange because she was found slumped along a tree. Oh. And she had been shot once in the chest and once in the face. Oh, in the face. It also looked like somebody had tried to stage Betty Jo.

She had a coat that was like buttoned up and they had buttoned it up to her chin. And then they had placed her right hand in like her upper coat pocket. What? So she was like sitting there like that. It's so weird too that he stages the women. Yeah, it's strange. Right, at least for the last two. It's so weird too that he stages the women. Yeah, it's strange.

Right, at least for the last two. Really weird. Staging too. Yeah, not even to like look like they're actually in a natural position to put somebody in. No. She had also been sexually assaulted. And her saxophone was missing from Paul's car

and has never been found. That's like when we did the other one where the clarinet was never found. Yeah, the clarinet. Oh, the Texas Killing Fields. Let me out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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It's happening. It's not much in the way it clues other than that, but the town was losing it at this point. Because they're like, who's next? And again, this is like boom, boom, boom. It's happening one after the other. So people in the town are like, OK, who's next? When's next? We can't go to Levers Lane. That's all I'm saying.

We can't go anywhere. Like that blows. So they started bringing in anyone with a record or anyone who looked shady. They were just bringing them in. They were interrogating people. See, now that's not nice, because some nice people look shady. But they were just like desperate at this point.

They're like, we just need to find this guy. They put up roadblocks and shit. The Texas Rangers decided to try to pretend to be couples parked at Relevers Lane. Oh wow. Try to lure him out. That's daring. He never showed. Because he was he was on to them. And they even kicked like female officers and male officers to make it look like. Okay wait, can you imagine sitting in that cop car? Like or obviously not a cop car I'm done, but that marked cop car and be like, I wonder if he's going to show. No, but do you know what I mean? Yeah, that not cop car. And what a weird awkward situation you're sitting there with like your partner. What are you talking about? Yeah, I think he's going to come.

I think he's going to come. You hear anything? I'm dressed in like regular clothes, try to look like you're on a date and you're like, yeah, so what are you doing after this? This is cool. What does your wife think of this? It was now that the phantom nickname came to be. This is when all of a sudden he was just, he was a phantom because he was mysterious. There it is. The editors at the Gazette were like, we need to call this creep something spoopy. I think that's a direct quote.

And while you said it, like very forwardly. And they were like, something spoopy. And they did their shoulders. And they were like something spoopy. And they did their shoulders, you know? And they were like, it needs to be snappy. So city editor, Kagan Sutton was the one who said quote, how about calling him the phantom? He's been elusive. Well, like a phantom.

Whoa. Poof. Listen to you, Sutton. And everyone there was like, oh, pro motion. I don't know why I just said pro motion. Get that man a race. Give him his own column. Give him $3 an hour.

An article with his own byline. Yeah. Above the fold. I don't know. Newspaper talk. Double spacing. John knows John. Get in that chat room and tell us what a newspaper thing is.

Yeah. Talk to John in the chat room. John used to be the editor of his college newspaper. Look at that. Fancy. F fancy. So people started buying guns, no one left their windows open anymore. A curfew. Curfew. Curfew. They put a curfew in place. They put a curfew in place. They put a curfew in place. It was the first of its kind. They put a curfew in place. And a reward went up for $6,425. Which back then was like $80 billion.

Approximately. Yes. So it's kind of like the Golden State Killer case. Yep. And we saw it with Richard Ramirez that as soon as these like night stalkery kind of people, like prowlers at night happen. Right.

All of a sudden everyone's buying locks, no one's leaving their windows anymore, no one's just sleeping with like no wall on the side of their house. Everybody realizes that fresh air is for dead people. Precisely. This is the precise moment when everyone realizes that and they start stocking up stuff.

Yep. But yeah, so tips are coming in everywhere. Obviously, of course, not all of them helpful because people want to be involved. Two tips came in that were very helpful. Well, that's good. Very, very helpful. I don't know if you can.

So they're not helpful. How helpful they were. Is that what you mean? Very helpful. Two women called in and they said, I have some information for you. And they were like, cool, where'd you get that information? They said it in my dreams? No. Where they psyched it. And they were like cool, cool, cool. It just tells about it.

They're like, yeah, bring it down totally. Yep. But so weirdly enough, nothing came out of those. They literally told them that the tips came from their dreams. I had dreams. Let me give you the information on them. And they were like, please don't. You would think that you would even like maybe leave that part out that your info came from a dream, like make something else up. They wore it on their sleeve. That's like this came from my own subconscious. That's dumb. So, neighbors were starting to shoot at each other. What? Because they were just shoot first, ask questions later.

Wait, why? Like at night, if one of the neighbors was like walking into their house and they heard a noise, they'd be like, BAH! Well that's dangerous. Yeah, people were just really starting to lose it at this point. The whole town was obsessed with the idea that a sex viend was on the loose. Well, he is telling people immediately to take their pants off. He was a sex viend and he was a salting woman. Right. And if you saw the newspaper article in the beginning little intro video, it says sex fiend. Yeah, it does.

She was like, can you put that in the slideshow? And I was like, yeah. Put that sex fiend thing in the slideshow. How many times can I say sex fiend on a life feed? You're done now. A lot, sex fiend. So in the next week, in the next week at May, the Phantom Killer attacked what are his last official victims.

And it was very different. So okay, question. I interrupt a lot. Hopefully answer. Do we think that it's a copycat? Because it's so different. No. Okay, go ahead.

We don't. Okay, I'll shut up now. Thank you. That was a good question, girl. The answer is always no to my questions. No. But I like where you had that. So Virgil and Katie Starks were husband and wife. Oh, they knew each other forever. They

were both turning 37 soon twins. They're not actually not a no, but I get it. They had a nice farmhouse together. I know this in the they were in the community of Miller County, Arkansas. Okay. Virgil was known as a progressive farmer. That's how he was, he was described which I love. Like all inclusive crops. I feel like that's my new, like when someone like, is that what you want to be? Who do you, like, who are you as a person? I'm a progressive farmer. Yeah, deep in my soul, I feel as though I'm a progressive farmer. A progressive pioneering farmer. I think it's a good thing to be. I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't. Katie was known as a popular, very sweet person. They both loved children, had lots of nieces and nephews, no kids of their own, but they had lots of nieces and nephews and they

were amazing with them. Like, family was like they adored them. Yeah. Great people. They didn't feel unsafe, especially this night, that we're talking about in question, because they were not two teenage lovers on a lover's lane. But they were lovers. They were safe in their home. Right.

Where you are safe. But now it's like nobody's going to the lover's lane anymore. So now he's going elsewhere. Right. He's taken it to the He's taken right to the people to the progressive Fortunately, so they were both friends with Sheriff Bill Presley who we mentioned before. Oh damn as they got ready to turn in for the evening Katie said, you know, like I hear a noise outside. That's never good. Which you're in a farmhouse Could be the chickens. I've lived around woods like my whole life.

You're always hearing noises. So it's like, I understand why she was just like, what, that's weird a noise. And Virgil was like, whatever. So she mentions it to Virgil. And he's like, it's probably fine. Suddenly, a man with a 22 automatic rifle was standing right on the other side of the window in the living room.

Oh my God. He shot into the home, shot Virgil, who was sitting in an easy chair listening to the news on the radio. Oh. Like, you cannot get more wholesome than sitting in an easy chair listening to the news on the radio. Have you ever seen the movie a League of Their Own and the Dad is like turning the dials to listen? That's what I picture. That's exactly what I thought. He shot into the home, shot Virgil in the back of his head through the window.

Oh, wow. Twice. So Katie ran out into the living room because obviously she said she didn't even hear the gunshot so much. She heard the breaking glass. Well, yeah, that I got that initially she thought that Virgil like heard himself like fell like drop something or something. Yeah, so something so she runs into the living room immediately sees Virgil tries to help him because he's bleeding and slumped over his chair

She runs to the phone and in those days it was a hand crank phone. No, thank you It wasn't like you just grab your iPhone and show it your face and it turns on so it was a hand crank phone She goes to crank it and before she can even crank it, the Phantom shot her twice in the head. Oh, one shot went into her cheek and the other went through her mandible, her lower jaw. Oh my God. She'll us. Lower jaw. Wow. Did you play a map? I did. That was actually very how it's off the cuff. I really did not plan that. You're like see I didn't plan it because it's hard to put back. Sleep well sweet prince. So he should put her through the that's not funny.

He shot her through the mandible. That's not funny. Her teeth literally exploded onto the floor. Oh, because obviously it's your bottom job. Yes. She was alive. What? She was alive.

Does she sit? Wait, okay. I won't ask questions. But she figured a gay dad. Another smart lady. Played dead. She was like, I'm gonna drop to the floor and I'm gonna stay there.

So maybe the man outside would think I'm dead too. Y'all, because she's like, he's gonna be watching. He's gonna be waiting for me to get up or move. Right. And then he's just gonna shoot me again. So I'm gonna stay here until he leaves. Eventually she crawls herself into the bedroom once she couldn't see him anymore. Uh-huh. She had a 45 revolver, but she couldn't find it in all the chaos. Of course not. Because you can never find important things when you need them.

Of course. So she ran into the living room and she sees the man crawling through her kitchen window. What? and crawling through her kitchen window. What? The scariest thought, crawling through her kitchen window. So she ran out the front door across the highway and ran straight to her sister and brother in law's home. Oh, oh wow. How she has the wherewithal and just like the thought to do this. She got shot.

I was gonna do this. Yeah, this dude, AV Pratter, New Katie, and knew something awful at Happenedore. He came out of his house and was like, holy shit. Because she's banging on the door of her sister and brother-in-law's home and they weren't home. So he comes out and he's like, oh my God, what's going on? So this is just like a movie.

This doesn't seem real. Because what he did was he fired his rifle once into the air from his porch to alert the rest of the neighbors. Shut up. So it's like the neighbors all had this thing where they were like if someone shows up at your door, shoot into the air. And their head is busted. Shoot that rifle into the air and all of us are going to come out and we all have our

time. We'll come a flock in. So he alerts the rest of the neighbors. Of course, neighbors came out because they know that's AV Pratt's rifle that shooting up into the air. Everybody knows that. And he's like, listen, you gotta go get your car because he said, Mrs. Stark's been shot. So they rushed her to the Michael Meager hospital and during the drive,

this is so crazy. What? She takes a tooth, she just spits one out of her mouth and it had a gold filling in it and she handed it to one of the people in the car and said I really don't want to lose this. Wow. She had a lot of wear with all that night. She's like, this was expensive.

Please hold. Please hold it. I love her. And they did. They were like, got it. Well, how are you going to say no to her? You know, were like got it. Well, you how are you gonna say no to her? I'm gonna say that you know No way Katie like I don't do teeth. I'm sorry. Sorry Early or that evening Arkansas State troopers max packet and Charlie board or boyd excuse me boyd Boyd-fowler you don't get it. They told boyd-fowler. I want to see if anybody gets that boyd-fowler That's what we call each other, but it comes from something. It does.

Everybody's like, what? It's on Netflix. So Max, Tackett, and Charlie Boyd, they were Arkansas State troopers. And earlier in the evening before all this chaos, they had driven past the star comb. And when they had driven past it, they obviously, they knew the starcks. Yeah.

And they noticed an older model car parked weirdly off to the side. He parked his car there. Yeah. So they, and at first he was like, that's strange, but they were on their way to do something else. So he was like, you know what, like whatever, we're just going to, we'll check on it later

when we're on our way back. It's not, it's not strange enough to warrant us. Yeah, maybe they have people over, I don't know. Well, when they drove past the house again on their way back, it was gone. Cars gone. New it. And this is when Katie was in route to the hospital. So this person pieced immediately when she left the house, he got in his car and pieced.

Once they found out everything had happened, they realized this is the killer's car. Duh. But other than that, there was nothing to go on. And they didn't know to get a maker, a model, or a license plate. They could only say it was an older model car, like every car then. Exactly.

So unfortunately, that's all they could go on. The town went absolutely bonkers. Again, similar thing to Richard Ramirez. Right. They say killer. People were buying a million locks. Again, their gun sales went through the roof. People were buying guard dogs. They were boarding up their windows and doors that night. I would. Basically what I do every night. They were just doing now.

They were investing in a simply safe alarm system. It's crazy. There was a curfew put into place that all businesses had to close before sundown, which is where the town that dreaded sundown came from. Which is the best name for a horror movie. I'm not going to lie to you. That's a good ass movie. It's a great name. The Texas Rangers and police from four other counties started patrolling the area.

Every single resource was pulled into this case. Well, yeah. And it just stopped. Because everybody was locked away in their house. He just stopped. That's never done it again. Maybe he died. I don't know.

I'm being there. I'm assuming he did. Over 400 people were detained or arrested in connection with this case during the whole thing. Yeah. And you will swiney, or swiney, excuse me, was a townie. I love a good townie and a good story like this. He is a townie or regular at the bar.

He was also a major suspect in the case, and many still believe he's the guy. What's his name again? You will swiney. So why do we feel like he's a good fit? He was arrested in 1947, but not for murder. He was arrested for Carthaft. Okay.

His wife Peggy then confessed that he was the phantom. Well, that'll do it. But by law, at this point, she could not testify against her husband. Because why? Law. So what? Okay. Law, you know.

So later, she took the confession back because he told her to. Yes, but when he was arrested for car theft, he said to the chief deputy, Tillman Johnson, hell, I know that you want me more for more than just stealing cars, so he confessed kind of. So he was just kind of like, I know what you're getting me for.

Wow. He was in and out of prison a ton, ended up dying in 1994. Oh, wow. Yeah. And that was it. So we ever, ever, ever depended on him? Maybe it stopped because he went to jail. Maybe.

I don't know. My cranium is cranking. Well, that's another thing that they believe is like that's, a lot of things fit with him. My fricking might have been him. His picture was in the slides. Do we have anybody else? Well, we have, so we really don't have any other suspects, suspects, but what's funny is that the urban legend that I'm

sure everybody is heard of, like, the two people in their car and they're making out after their date, and they hear scratch, scratch, scratch on the car door. Yep, yep, yep. And then when they come out, there's like a bloody hook on the car door. No, thanks. I've read in several sources that it could have come from this.

Like, the most recent version of it, the one that we all know, could have come from this case. Where does the hook come from, though? Well, urban legends always twist things into like, you right. You know. You're like, wait, it doesn't fit. I'm like, no. And he also didn't like scratch, scratch at cars, but you don't know that. I've got to turn it into something.

So the last thing I just want to mention is the movies, the town that had a dreaded sundown. The original one was in 1976, directed by Charles B. Pierce. And to use the tagline, the incredible story you are about to see is true. And where it happened and how it happened. Only the names have been changed. That's generous.

Was that strange? About that film. There's one scene where it is supposed to be representing the murder of Betty Joe Booker. The Trumpet. Yes, the 15 year old. She was the saxophone player. Right.

Well, they changed her instrument to a trombone and you maybe like, why would they do that? That's a strange artistic liberty to take. And you're right, it is. But the reason that they did it was they wanted to have the killer tie her to a tree in the film, which they did. They did. Yep. And then they had the phantom attach a knife to the slide part of the trombone, which would take a lot of time. He then like maniacally plays the trombone through his burlac sack with no hole for his mouth.

Do you remember watching that together? So bad. And stabs her each time he plays a note. Which is not funny. And in the end of the film, you see the killer waiting in line to watch the film. It's like very meta. But that scene is one, it's the silliest the film, you see the killer waiting in line to watch the film. It's like very meta, but that scene is one.

It's the silliest thing you'll ever see, but it's also terrifying all at the same time. No, that's terrifying. But like what a weird scene to decide to put into a movie that didn't happen. Yeah. That did not happen. That's not how Betty Jobacher was killed. They should have put that in a very small thing on the bottom when they were like, this is all true, except that one part that we put in.

This is still in murder situation we concocted did not actually happen. It's also kind of rude that they did that. Yeah, she was not stabbed, she was not tied to a tree. Yeah. She was shot and she was just found by the tree. Right. And they didn't even show her being staged. It's just silly.

I don't like it. Plus you. So, because it's untyped. So, so, yeah. So it's a very meta film at the end. You see the killer, like his boots waiting to watch the film. I love meta. They play this film every Halloween in Spring Lake Park

in Texarkana. Let's go. It's like tradition. And that's where Paul and Betty went on their date and everything. Oh, that's sad, though. There was a 2014 remake that was more like a sequel. Yeah.

You guys are original one. It kind of played on that Halloween screening in the original film because it begins with the people at the screening, the annual screening of the original film. Yep. And then it has some maniac trying to copy the original killing spree. I'm not going to tell you, never mind. I'm like, isn't it though? It was spoiler alert. It was only 2014.

It's not long enough to spoil it. That's true. It was also the last thing I just want to mention because it's important. Last thing. It was mentioned in scream. Sydney says, geez. It's like the town that's shredded sundown when they do all the curfews. I love it.

I know that one. It's about a killer in Texas, huh? And he says it really stupid, and I love it. Because he's dewy. So that is the Texarkanna Moonlight Murder. Good job. Thanks, Annie. I need to take my gloves off to tell my story because I can't scroll.

The gloves are coming off. The gloves are coming off. The gloves, the bracelet, that's it. let me close this crazy future machine that I found wow Alina that was really good thank you I appreciate that the issue here that was that I'm gonna have to take oh I'm saying like this that I ball don't do that it'll make me dizzy oh I got nervous even though none of you are here right now oh the nerves oh okay we have to do our shoulders to go all the way back to the 20s. Okay, we're here. And I found this. Charleston, isn't it like this? I couldn't tell you. I don't know. So, from a decade.

From a decade. The case that I found, I just threw a feather in my face, was bananas. And I was telling you about it. Yeah, this is a crazy case. I was like, so I'm like looking for things to do in the 20s. And I was like, what could I do? What could I do? What happened that there's actually record of? Yeah. And then I saw this newspaper clipping, which you also saw. You did. And you know what it is. You know what it is. And the New York Daily News put out this headline on October 28th, 1927. And it says, headless wives and two trunks, one husband held. I love one husband held. Like held where?

And also, please tell me more. Yeah. Also talk about like clickbait before clickbait was a thing. Oh, yeah, that was clickbait for sure. Yeah. So the day before in the French quarter of New Orleans, the bodies, I know we really do. The bodies of two women were found by their

housekeeper and the housekeeper's name was Nettie Compass. So she just you know walks in in the morning to like do her job. She probably just had some coffee and then like yaked it up everywhere. She was like, I'm gonna Charleston while I clean, dude. And then she was like, no, I'm not And then she was like, no, I'm not. Ah! La, la! La! The two Ash was up at the haunted Hayride. Ooh!

Oh, and I have pearls to clutch today. I do! Ooh! So, the two women that she walks in on that, well, our headless and trunks, she doesn't know that yet, she just sees a lot of blood. Their Teresa and Leonide, who went by Lonnie, which is easier to say, so thanks. Sure is. The two of them are sister-in-laws married to a pair of brothers. The brothers were Joseph and Henry Moody. Moody is a fun last name to say, so shout out to you if your last name's Moody.

So as always with my case, we're gonna scrup, rewind. So Henry, Joseph and the women were all originally from New Aberia in Louisiana. And then they met and they all fell in love. I couldn't find like anything about where they met or how they fell in love, but they did. But they did, but they believe it. Yeah, because here we are. And that had happened. Well, they move in together, which I'm like, I, that's a lot to move in with like your Sister and brother-in-law. That's a lot. That's a lot of people

Cramped quarters and okay, so they move in together on the second floor of 715 Ursuline, Ursuline Street in the French Quarter of New Orleans. Okay. I'm there. There you are. Here we are They rented this place from Joe Caruso. Okay, and I'm sure you're thinking like cool, why do I need to know their landlord's name? I don't really care. It's important, I bet. It is.

You do, and that's all I'm going to tell you right now. You know how I know that? What's effective? You have a magnifying glass. I have a magnifying glass. Well, that's important information. You just discovered, you're going to some important information, so lift that up. Okay, Mr. Joey Caruso is an important name in this case, because Teresa, who was married to Henry, had eyes for Caruso.

Uh-oh. Uh-oh. And apparently, Mr. Caruso had them back. I don't know why I have to say his name like that, but I do. Mr. Caruso. And then, there was like. Mr. Caruso. And then there was like Mr. Caruso. There was rumors going that door just opened and oh my God. Is this place haunted?

That's what happened. It's the phantom. I'm not even fucking with you. Not even a joke. A door just opened behind us on its own. OK, I'm leaving now. We summoned some spirits from different eras. Can you send them back? Please

go back. Oh, and it's just pitch blot. Okay, sorry, this is rude. So yeah, so Mr. Caruso had the eyes back and there was all these rumors going around town about them canutling behind their spouses back because Caruso was married too. Oh, it's not cool. That's not good. And also, major points, if the word canutiling, just made you think of Mr. DuVal for Mean Girls. It did make me think of that. Because you know I could mean Girls Reference in whenever I can.

Yes. Also, this hand is getting a lot of motion. Oh, I went very like that. You always talk with your hands, I do too. So there together, all these rumors are going around. They're both married. That's never good, you know. Now, that's Teresa. So then we're going to go to Lonnie.

She was also like not super happily married with her husband, Joe. Not to be like messed up with Joe. Carissa, a lot of Joe's. A lot of Joe's. A lot of Joe's. The woman like weren't really happy with the brothers because they weren't bringing in the cash.

And that, you know, money problems always lead to murder, I feel like. And then because they weren't really bringing home the dough, the women had to get jobs, and they were like, we don't wanna, we just wanna flat, flat, flat, all day, and canoodle around town with our side pieces. So this is annoying. And they also had kids, so they were like, I have to raise the kids.

I have to, they took jobs as seamstresses. And then they may have done like a little bit of sex work. So they were really busy. They're mad at their husbands. Really busy. And they're like, we hate you. Yeah, that's just the moral of this old. You know, we just hate you.

So anyway, Lonnie and Joseph got separated when Joseph walked in on Lonnie embracing another man. I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna say that embracing means something they were. They were. Canutling. I feel like you should like they were doing with some. That's kind of a loss. I'm gonna like I feel bad I'm throwing feathers everywhere. I love it. So he was like yeah, bye don't embrace what I do with some things, Candle us. I'm gonna, like, I feel bad. I'm throwing feathers everywhere. I love it. So he was like, yeah, bye. Don't embrace anybody except me.

Stop embracing men. Don't do it. He moved away with the two kids that they had. So there's also kids involved here. I hate that there's kids involved. So Lonnie stays behind in the apartment with Henry, Teresa, and they're three kids. So there's like five whole kids living there.

I have a whole kids. Now, subtract two, there's three kids, Lonnie, Teresa, and Henry. Okay. And it sounds like a little bit of a less than happy family. Seems it. You know? So, again, depending on like what source you're reading,

the woman, either the women, either decided they were leaving town one night or they were just gonna have like a little girl's night. And they were like, listen, Henry, we're going out or we're leaving. We need you to watch the kids. Watch the kids while we leave forever. Right, exactly.

So watch the kids. Their trunks were packed, they were ready to go for their girls night or their... Seems like they were vacation. They were, I'm just gonna go with the fact that they were dipping. Yeah, I'm gonna go. Because you know, the trunks were packed.

They were. So they're like, Henry, we need you to watch the kids. And he's like, okay. So I think it was like the day before that they told him this. And then the next day, the day that he's supposed to watch the kids, he just goes to the bar all day long. Oh. He's like, fuck that.

I'm gonna get sauce. So did he just leave the kids? Well, no, he just like leaves them with the women. Oh, okay. So they're mad too. So in the early morning and after, the morning and early afternoon, he just gets sauceed, like completely super drunk.

And then he just comes home and decides to take everybody out for a bite to eat. Okay. Which is like, I mean, I guess you would be kind of hungry at that point. You're always hungry after long morning of drinking right? I'm getting sourced. You'll get in sourced. So they go out, they get there by to eat and on the way home, some like busy body,

Susan lady, pulls Teresa aside and she's like, hey listen, everybody knows about your plan tonight to run away with Garusau. Garusau. Also I just want to say Capuda because of the log Island video. Obviously. You get me, thank you. So she pulls her side and she's like,

you know, everybody knows that you're running away tonight. And you know, who hears this? Henry. Henry heard it guys. He heard it in his ear. He heard it. And he was pissed. He wasn't happy.

Nope. So they head back home and like everybody goes to bed except for Henry because he's pissed. Cause he's stewing, pissed, sauceed all of the above. And you know, it's just not going to be good from here. No it's not. I'm just warning you. I don't think things are going to go well. So he's oh I closed my document shit. I'm like I don't know what happened to him here. So I feel like that's it. And I'm just, we'll tell you what happened next time.

So no, I got it back open. So he's mad, he's stewing, and he's like, you know what? I'm going to do something about this. My wife isn't running away. I hate Lonnie. She's a bad impression on Teresa. So he gets up. He takes a cane knife and heads into his wife Teresa's bedroom.

And he just starts swinging and swinging and swinging and he decapitates her. Wow. And then he keeps swinging and swinging and swinging and he cuts off both her arms, both her legs, and some of her fingers. Wow. Then at some point, she got some kind of, obviously, like, wound to her back. Oh, I thought you were like, if she got a wound. She got a wound at this point.

Like, she got another wound to her back at some point. He takes off her wedding ring off her potentially severed finger and shoves it in the wound that's in her back. I did not know that. Well, now you do, you're welcome. So then, I could have gone my whole life without knowing that. You her back. I did not know that. Well, now you do, you're welcome. So then, I could have gone my whole life without knowing that. You're welcome.

I could have gone my whole life without knowing a lot of things that you tell me in these cases. So, pay back. That's really messed up. He shoves it in her back. How was the reason for that? Because she was cheating on him. That's symbolic.

But like, how is it simple to shove it in the wound on her back? Mm, I don't know. I don't know. It Mm, I don't know. It was, I don't know. So, he's not done. He goes to the back bedroom, which is Lonnie's bedroom. And he does the same thing.

He decapitates her. He severs her limbs. I don't understand why he had to cut the fingers off when he already went. He already cut everything else off. It's like, that's a lot. And he stuffs her in a trunk. And then he goes back and he steps Teresa in her trunk and he dips. Wow.

And these were potentially the trunks that they had packed to get out of there. Where are the kids? I know. I wrote that in here at one point. And the whole time I was reading this case, I was like, where are the kids? And you know what? Nobody finds out. But they lived.

They didn't get hacked up. Well, they're probably not now, but. So the whole scene is obviously like a blood bath. And then this is crazy. Are you ready for this little tidbit? No. So strangely enough, there was this submission that Longi had written into a magazine,

and they declined it, which is really sad. Not cool. Didn't have to put that in there, but. So they find it covered in blood. And it's basically this cautionary tale to young women about this woman who finds love after being in a super unhappy marriage. And she wrote, quote, please think ahead of you

and do not make the mistake I have made, because it does not always turn out the right way. And then she says more and more. And then she says more and more. And then she says, be careful. Marriage is a life sentence. Isn't that so cryptic? Can you imagine thinking of marriage as a life sentence? No, I think of it as like a nice union.

He's Louise. Isn't that what they call it a union? A union. That's what they call it. You get benefits. So those people call it. You know, so also so weird that she wrote that. And like had no idea what was going to happen in her life.

Because people speculate that this was, this tale was actually written even before she had moved to the French Quarter and met her husband. Yeah, so it's almost like a weird premonition. I know I hate it. Weird. She should team up with those two ladies in Texarkana that had dreams.

I know, she should. Yeah. So now we're going to woo back to Netty walking in on the scene. So she shows up to clean and she screams so loud when she walks in. She's absolutely terrified, obviously. And she runs back downstairs and grabs two insurance men who are walking by. And she's like, I love how she's like, you insurance suits. Suit's over there to pause what you're doing. And then instead of calling the police right away, the two insurance men tip off this local reporter, George William Healy.

And then instead of calling the police, Healy calls another reporter, and he's like, you gotta come see this. And then they realize you know Hey, we should probably call the police. We probably should have started with the police. You know 911 Yeah, this is a pretty big deal. Yeah, wow. Oh my god chromatic a two into 911 So then I just had to make that joke so then I'm so glad you are who you are. Thank you I'm glad you are who you are

so the cops get there. Nettie goes upstairs again. George is there. Lady Gaga is there. And they follow the blood trails. Especially came up with chromatic. This is exactly the inspiration. They follow the blood trails into the first bedroom.

And one of the reporters lifts up the trunk, and they see the arms and the legs and the torso and maybe the head, I don't know, it depends where you read in the trunk. And they're like, oh my God. And then there's, oh my God. Oh my God. There's like blood everywhere.

They find the note that Lonnie had written when they get to her back bedroom. And at one point, they find fingers in the bed. That's real gross. This lady just lifts up a finger and she's like, I said, I heard finger. There find fingers in the bed. That's real gross. This lady just lifts up a finger and she's like, I said, I heard finger. There's fingers in the bed. Which is great. And she actually goes, she goes, look, a lady's finger.

Lady's fingers. I know. Those are cookies, right? It's a cookie. And now it's ruined for you. Terima Sue tried, if you haven't, it's great. Oh. Say it like it's a new dessert.

Nobody wants to eat dessert right now. Like try to start a dessert, Terima dessert. Nobody wants to eat dessert right now. It's a dessert tiramisu. So she finds the fingers in the bed. And there's like everything is true and everywhere. There's children's clothing, strewn about. What makes me sad? There's clumps of hair within everything.

There's just human remains everywhere because they were gutted. There's brains everywhere. Everywhere. There's nastiness everywhere. The police, they come and assess the scene as they do. And they're like, Lady Gaga, you have to go. Just kidding, I should stop that now.

And the coroner comes and his name is Dr. George Rowling. So he determines that the women must have first been bludgeoned by something. And then decapitated and dismembered, which is like, wow, you don't say no way. But he noted that whoever did this must have had some kind of experience with knives and he thinks it's like a butcher because he noted that they knew not to cut through the bone, but instead to cut through the joint, which is not information I should give anybody. But that makes a lot of sense, it does. I'm sure that makes sense to you too.

It's really hard to cut your bone. Yeah, you need a bone saw, right? Do you need a bone saw? No, thanks. Even then it's hard. I know, that's messed up. So yeah, then Joseph Moiety Henry's brother, he like probably knew exactly who was responsible for this.

Oh yeah. And he goes right to the police and he's like, I was involved too, which he wasn't. So I'm like, wow, good brother. What a sibling. I know. And the police are like, cool, that's awesome. Where's your brother, Henry?

And he tips off the officer is that his brother, Henry was probably going to hop on a ship and skip town and be like, bye. I mean, because he just grew somely murdered a lot of people. He's going to hop on a ship. He's going to get out of here. And slowly take out of town. Yeah, right, especially then. The slowest get away.

Not a motorboat. So the police chief Thomas Healy, we got another Healy. He radios out to all the outgoing ships and he's like, yeah. If this guy comes on the boat, call me. Maybe take him off. And he described him as a very hairy, dark hair, dark eyed man. And he said he has a couple tattoos on his arm and one is of a naked woman. Oh, a naked lady tattoo. Right. That was really scandalous for the 20s. Not everybody had naked women on their arm. Not everybody does now.

No, actually I do. Isn't that kind of funny? Oh, yeah, you can do that. Whatever, but they're tasteful. Scandal. Scandal. That's why you're a flappa. Oh, Wani. So when you know it, that was the tattoo that tipped off workers on a freight ship called the Gem. Queue. And it was headed toward Texas. And they were like, he got on, Henry got on the boat with a fake name.

And they were like, we see your tattoo. We know what you're up to. You're hairy. You're hairy. You're very hairy. You know what I'm saying? You're hairy. This situation's hairy. Everything's hairy. You're very hairy. You're hairy.

This situation's hairy. Everything's hairy. We're calling Mr. Healy. And so they do. Good. So, and this is only two days after he killed the women. So, like, he didn't really plan this get away too well, which I'm glad. Yeah.

He confesses to everything and he's like, yeah, Joe wasn't involved at all. And the police are like, yeah, we didn't think so. And he said, he contemplated this for a while. So already he's like, hit me with the first degree murder charge. Because I've been thinking about this for quite some time. Quite some time. He's like, first, I thought I was going to kill myself,

but I didn't want to. And then he said he thought of killing the children and himself and just leaving Theresa to like, but he was like, I couldn't bear the thought of her running off with Joe Caruso for the rest of her life. So not I couldn't bear the thought of her running off with Joe Caruso for the rest of her life. So I couldn't bear the thought of killing my children. I didn't want her running off with Karuso. Well, he seems a little like not not good. So he also tells the police, yeah, he is tapped because it tells the police if I ever get my hands on Joe Caruso, I'll chop them up into

little pieces. They're like, well, thank you, sir. And goes on to say, not big pieces like my wife, but little pieces. I'll make him look like something that's been run through a sausage mill. A sausage mill. He says this to the police. I think he did it. I think he did it.

Well, he said so. He did it. And by the way, Henry had worked for a bit as a butcher's assistant. Oh, he knows tendons. Exactly. I was going to say I remember the whole joint thing. Yeah, boom. Also, remember sausages for later on, but not right now. I'm remembering sausages. Dingin in your brain. Dingin. Henry was tried separately for each

murder. And by two different judges, which was like kind of crazy. And his defense tried to argue that he was temporarily insane because he was like, soft. Because he seemed it. Because he seemed it, because he told the police that he was going to kill somebody else. But that didn't work out. And he was sentenced to two terms of life in prison, which was actually lenient for the time because they could have hanged him.

Oh, is that how you're supposed to say because they could have hanged him. Oh. Is that how you're supposed to say it like that, right? Cool. So I feel like they kind of felt bad for him that his wife was like maybe cheating on him, but also it's like why did you feel any kind of remorse for this guy? Yeah, no. Crazy. And now you're probably thinking, oh, let's see, end of the story, but it's not.

Sausages. Yeah, you gotta remember Sausages there. Plus a little more. Henry served 16 years of his prison sentence, like pretty quietly. He was a good prisoner. And he was such a good prisoner that they made him a trustee, or like a trustee.

All right. And he got a little more freedom than like the other people there. OK. So while he was alone, he used that freedom to escape prison. Okay. So while he was alone, he used that freedom to escape prison. Oh, he literally just casually hops in a taxi and he's like, Hey, can you bring me to the train station? I'd like to get out of it. And the taxi guys like, that's my job. So yeah. And

he brings him to the train station and he hops on a train to Chicago. Boom. See you later. Goodbye. Except not. Seemed very easy. He was able to fly like under the radar a little bit for two years. But then he was stopped for suspicious behavior. You got to lay low. I mean, he did for two years. I couldn't find out what he was doing. That was so suspicious. He was just being hairy.

He was like coming down on a basis. Don't be a suspect. I just walk into the dark. I also just trying to be a naked lady tattoo on his arm. He was like, coming, don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious. I just walk into the door, be suspicious. Don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious. Did you get that? That's suspicious. Did you get the reference?

No, I didn't. You didn't? No. Parks and Rec. No, I don't remember that. I'm sorry. OK. Should we end the line?

Should we end it now? She's so dumb. She's so dumb. You love Parks and Rec. I do love Parks and Rec. I don't remember that though. That's that. I'm sorry, okay. Should we end the line? End it now. I was stunned. You love parks and rec. I do love parks and rec, I don't remember that though. That's okay, I'm sorry. So, they got him for not being so suspicious, but really being suspicious.

And he gets sent back to Louisiana. And they're like, you gotta stay here, but not for long, because the warden and Henry were like bros. The warden was like, you know, other than not escaping thing, he's been like a pretty good guy. He took a painting while he was in prison and he was actually kind of good at it. So good in fact that his one of

his paintings ended up in the Baton Rouge's Governor's Mansion. What? I don't know if it's still there but tell me. I couldn't find it. I don't know what it is. I think it was a person. So he was like, they recommended his release. And they not only released him, but pardoned him. Why? So his pardon was signed in 1948 by Governor Jimmy Davis. He chopped two women up. And just a little fun fact, Jimmy Davis was also a singer.

They called him the singing governor. That's a very clever name. So cute. The governor that sings. You know. In fact, Jimmy Davis was also a singer. They called him the singing governor. That's a very clever name. So cute for a governor that sings. You know. So now you would think like after he got pardoned for savagely murdering two people and also escaping prison.

And I guess he's friends with the governor now. He would like turn his life around and do something good. I bet he did. You're correct because you have a magnifying glass. I know. In 1956, he was staying at a hotel with his girlfriend and they got into this argument, which I read was about shopping money.

Like she was like, can I have some money to go buy some clothes? And he was like, no. And he shot her in the chest. He was like, no, and he just pulls out again and shoots her in the chest. In fact, well, they were arguing. And crazily enough, she survived and he went back to prison, obviously. Because they were like, you can't do that.

You cannot do that, sir. You can't do that. But this time his sentence was only five years. For shooting someone in the chest? Because it was only attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon. Oh, just that old thing. You know, but like, what if he did murder her? He wanted to murder her.

It wasn't, you know, I just. He wanted her to die. I don't get it. But luckily, he died in prison from a stroke in 1957 before he could like go kill anybody else. Wow. And I told you to remember sausages. I got sausages on the brain at this whole time.

So this story, like this whole Jimmy's story, cannot be told at all without mentioning a ghost. So we got murder and ghosts for you tonight. My feather is in my face. Okay. Thank you. So I lost my place. This case, sausages, sausages, this case, reminded people back in the 1920s when it happened of the sausage ghost Which they thought was just a spooky tale, but they were like sound strangely familiar Sounds hilarious. This is what it's own. It does sound hilarious. It's not I assure you. It's not in fact I was telling mom this morning and she was like I could have gone my whole life without knowing that it was cute. So

The sausage ghost so I just feel like was cute. So the sausage goes. So I just feel like every time you know the sausage goes around because you smell like cold sausages. Like sourdough. And I love that. Well, the story goes that this couple, they fell madly in love. They were like super young.

And they opened a sausage store together. I'm going to close my computer because I know this tale. So I know this one. I know this one. So I know this one. I know this one. So they fell in love. They start this sausage company together and business is like booming. And it's booming for years and years and years.

And they're just making sausage and being in love. I love that. And they're growing old together. But this guy was like a real jerk and he didn't want to grow old with this lady because she was getting wrinkly. That's not cool. Right? He was mad that she was wrinkly and old. And all singing there were like this cute sausage

making couple. Oh, honey. So she's getting wrinkly and he's pissed off about it. So he goes and gets this like super young girlfriend. What a bean guy. I was gonna say what a douche. So he is like hopping around Canutalin with this little girl,

not little girl, but young girlfriend. And one night, and he's still married, one night him and his wife are cleaning up shop. And she's in the front and he's doing something in the back and he's all of a sudden comes up behind her, strangles her, drags her back into the back room, and pushes her into the meat grinder. Whoops! Now that's not all. So then he just goes about his life but everybody's

like where'd your wife go and I don't know what he told them and people start noticing that their sausage tastes a little different, a little different. And so one night he's cleaning up shop, getting ready to go out with like his girlfriend probably. And he hears this loud thud from the back room. And he goes back to check it. And his zombie ass wife is crawling out of the sausage machine. And she's like, I'm gonna fuck you up. And so he runs into the street screaming and yelling and crying because his wife is gonna fuck you up. And so he runs into the street screaming and yelling and crying because his wife is gonna fuck him up.

Yeah, she and people are like, what's wrong? And he's like, nothing, never mind. And it happens night after night after night. She just keeps crawling out. She was like, tonight I'm gonna fuck you up. Yeah, she's ready to do the damn thing. Wow. So it happens night after night after night.

And people are like, this guy's going crazy. And a business starts to slow down But then like some guys travel in through town. He's like oh sausages So he stops to get a sausage and he bites him to a sausage And he's chewing And he's chewing and he's chewing and also and he's like oh, ow that hurt and he spits out her wedding ring No, and he brings it to the police ow, that hurt. And he spits out her wedding ring. No.

And he brings it to the police. And the police go and they arrest the man that killed his wife by pushing her in the sausage grinder. And when they get there, he's literally in the corner screaming and crying that his wife is crawling out of the sausage grinder to get him. And they're like, no, she's not, because you killed her. And that's crazy.

So they send him to an asylum. And every single night in the asylum, he's like, oh my no, she's not because you killed her and that's crazy. So they send him to an asylum. And every single night in the asylum, he's like, oh my god, she's coming. She's coming. She's coming at me. She came to the asylum with him. And then this new guy takes over the sausage shop and he says, obviously, the lady wasn't crawling out

of the thing to get him, but she was still hanging out around there and he saw her. And then the husband and the asylum complete suicide because he's just done with this whole deal. He's like, she's gonna get me, I'm gonna get me. And the guy that took over the sausage shop, he said that the day that the guy died is the day that everything stopped happening and the wife wasn't haunting the shop anymore.

She was like, he's dead finally. Exactly. And do you know what? Do you know where that sausage shop was? I don't know where it was. Ursuline Street where Henry Moody killed his wife and sister in law. Wow. Oh my god, I loved that. So yeah. Wow. That was the tale of Henry Moody killing everybody. And also a little dabble of ghost. A paranormal.

I loved it. Thank you. I love the sausage ghost. I loved your case. You loved it. This was my head, but I have a weird pillbox hat on, and I itched the bed. Don't do that.

I did it. That was so much fun. This was fun. And you know what? We got one person cheering us on, and I hope everybody was having fun. Woo! And even though we can't hear you,

we can feel it. So we can't rush. We can feel it come in through the camera. And you guys enjoyed the cases. Yes. And hope you enjoyed our crazy outfits. Yes. Because this was fun,

and I feel like this is how I want to dress all the time. And I'm going to go to Target like this tomorrow. I just want to hold a magnifying glass all the time. I'm going to go to Target like this tomorrow. I just want to hold a magnifying glass all the time. Do you want to go to Target tonight like this? I just feel like. Hey, we're looking to investigate. I'm just looking at tap dance. But we hope this is like the first of many of the live streams.

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