Morbid - Episode 193: The Horrific Kidnapping & Murder of Sarah Haley Foxwell

Episode Date: December 11, 2020

It was Christmastime 2009 and eleven year old Sarah Haley Foxwell was getting ready to celebrate with her family. She and her little sister skipped off to bed together, but that would be the last time Sarah’s family got to see her. Sarah was kidnapped, assaulted and brutally murdered by a man she knew. Thomas Leggs was a convicted sexual offender, who had slipped through the cracks in the system time and time again, he should have been incarcerated at the time Sarah was taken, but somehow posted bond. Sarah’s death was not in vain though, Sarah’s law was passed and cracked down on these kinds of criminals.  If a you or a child you know has been the victim of sexual assault, here are some resources: National sexual assault telephone hotline: Call 800.656.HOPE (4673) to be connected with a trained staff member from a sexual assault service provider in your area State Child Abuse and Neglect Reporting Numbers http://virtualglobaltaskforce.com/  https://www.childhelp.org/ As always, thank you to our sponsors: Stamps: Just go to Stamps.com, click on the Microphone at the TOP of the homepage and type in MORBID. Careof: For 50% off your first Care/of order, go to TakeCareOf.com/morbid50 and enter code morbid50 Upstart: See why Upstart has over 6,000 5-star reviews on Trustpilot and hurry to Upstart.com/morbid to find out HOW LOW your Upstart rate can be Amazon Music: Go to Amazon.com/morbid to get your first three months of Amazon Music, FREE See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That's ANGI, or download the app today. Hey weirdos, I'm Ash, and I'm Alina. And this is Mabid. It's Mabid. Mabid. Welcome! Hello! We're here! How are ya?

You're here! We're all here! We're here and we're queer. At least one of us says you're pretty weird. I'm queer, Jason queer, or Jason. So I think today I know what the case is because Ash warned me ahead of time because she's a loving human being. Yeah. This is a gnarly one. Yeah. So we just want to warn you ahead of time. Yeah, this involves sexual assault and abuse and it is of a young child. Yeah.

That's not your jam, then I will see you for Saturday. I am not psyched. I know, but I do feel like it was like an important case that you told. Oh, most, you know, every case is an important case to be told. So it's as gnarly as it is and how much I don't want like psyched. It was like an important case that you told. It is. Oh, most, you know, every case is an important case to be told. So it's as gnarly as it is and how much I don't want to hear this.

Yeah. You got to do it. You got to do it. And actually as I was, because I was like, oh, we're doing a child murder case. Crazy. And then I was thinking about something somebody tweeted at us recently.

I think it was like yesterday. Yeah. And I started looking into it and I was like, holy shit. So this is was like yesterday. Yeah. And I started looking into it and I was like, holy shit. So this is way like super new ongoing, but I figured it was worth mentioning because we definitely wanna follow this. In Lancaster in California,

this 34 year old father of, I believe four. He had 12 year old, 13 year old, eight year old, and a nine year old. Yeah. He's a personal trainer. He was doing, like, Zoom personal training sessions. Yeah. Suddenly he doesn't show up for a Zoom session, and his clients are like, that's weird.

He always shows up on time. He always shows up on time. He would never not show up. Well, they're like, maybe he was murdered. They found out he had decapitated his 12 and 13 year old a son and a daughter Put them in their bedrooms and then his other two kids his eight and nine year old. He showed them the bodies Yeah, then for five days Kept them in their bedrooms with no food with no food

I didn't like talk to them in their bedrooms with no food. With no food, I didn't like talk to them in their bedrooms with no food after seeing their decapitated siblings. What the fuck? For five days. And then so, because he missed the Zoom. That's how they'd work out. That's something was weird, but I guess somebody thought it was like a gas leak or something at first, and that's why they showed up and...

Wow. That's what they should... And I guess there is a woman that they found in the house as well and they assume she's the mother. I guess she's being questioned as well, but they don't think she had obviously anything to do with it. She might have been a victim as well. Wow. So, obviously this is very new, very ongoing.

Super fresh. Yeah, but I just wanted to mention it because holy shit. No, that's a lot. And then you wonder like, this is the thing that, it's so hard, this lockdown and everything. It's so necessary, but it's so hard for people who are dealing with abusive households, people who are fragile mentally anyways.

Like, this is tough. It is. It's a lot. Let's roll out that vaccine. Yeah, let's do it. But yeah, this is one of those situations where it's like, oh God, I can't imagine what that household was like. I know.

Especially before this, because it couldn't have been a happy house to begin with. Well, that's the thing. Things like that. It's always like a lead up. And it's being exasperated from, because I'm sure I think people are saying they were going through financial issues and stuff. So this is all just a big old mess.

It's like decapitated. And decapitated. It's very not, I can't find the right word, but it's very strange that only two of them were killed in such a gruesome manner. And then the other two and potentially the mom were just like, I wouldn't say untouched, but they were like starved. And it's like, what was he planning on doing? I wouldn't say untouched, but they were like starved.

And it's like, what was he planning on doing? I don't know. And then to think that he's just like working out on Zoom, well, there's decapitated children are in his home. That's, it's very strange. It's terrifying. It's a strange, weird, scary story that I just had to mention because it was just like blowing my mind.

Yeah, that's a lot. There's another true crime case like unfolding right now. And I'm trying to people have been tweeting us about that one too. And it's this Instagram influencer. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Alexis Sharky. They just found her nude body on the side of the road. Yeah. I believe in Texas.

And she left the Friday after Thanksgiving. She went missing. And then they found her nude body on the side of the road. And they like haven't ruled foul play out, but they also haven't said definitively like she was murdered. Yeah, it seems like some things with that case are being kind of held.

Yeah, there's some shading us happen. There's definitely some shading us. Her, I mean, they always look at the boyfriend first, of course. And she was married, so the husband. You got to look at the spouse, whoever they're in a romantic relationship first. So he's saying like, she's my world, she's my everything, Laudie, Dado, but I guess some friends,

I was just reading a people magazine article, but her friends were saying that they were having financial and marital troubles. I mean, that raises red flags, no matter what, it's like you gotta know you're gonna be the first person they look at. And if you act even a slightly shady, you're gonna raise a ton of red flags. With that being said, I watched Gone Girl the other night

because after we did it, it was a great movie. His after we did the Angela Diaz story, everybody kept being like, oh my God, this has Gone Girl vibes and I was like, I need to watch that. Did you not see it? No, I have. Oh, I've seen it like so many times. So good. But I hadn't seen it for a long time and Annie had never seen it. So I showed it to her and at the end I turned her like turn and look at her and she's like, what the fuck did I just watch? She's like, can we watch Drag Race now? She's like, please don't go and girl me.

I do not have that capability. And I could never slit Neil Patrick Harris' throat. No who could? I'm freaking Amy. I'm freaking Amy. That's so crazy. Amazing Amy. That's a great movie guys. So good go watch it. It's on Amazon. There's some good movies coming out on like Amazon and stuff and like on demand now because obviously no movie theaters seriously which I personally love because movie theaters as I've gotten older I've gotten more and more germophobic even without COVID yeah so movie theaters always gave me like a real real vibe of like yeah lice and like other things like I'm always very terrified of like the headrest yeah I guess you don't know but now

most of them I know you can probably like lice control. Yeah, I guess not. You just don't know. But now, what's the number? I know you can probably like, like, light control on leather, but I feel a little bit better now that they're the leather seats instead of those like old cloth ones. Oh, the cloth ones. Those were a moment. Get out of here.

That's too much. That's too much. For Kleine leather ones, I miss the movie theaters so much. Yeah. I miss the cinema. I did, I did always like to, John and I, for for our anniversary would always go

Because we never go to the lux level. We used to go we were dating all the time Since then it's declined slowly and we would go to the lux level get the food Oh my god drink the popcorn on the lux level tastes different. It's different. It's a bouchy. It's a bougie popcorn Yeah, and we will not for our anniversary like you know we oh we don't know how this started But we just started seeing like disaster and the world flex on our anniversary. You truly did and it just started and we've and then we just made it a tradition We see like Godzilla.

I love that like Just any like and there was one with the rock and now of course I can't remember what oh it was um San Andreas. Oh, it was awesome. It's all movies that I would never go with the rock, and now of course I can't remember what. Oh, it was um, uh, San Andreas. That was awesome. It's all movies that I would never go to the whole world ending some crazy earthquake that's just like destroying the planet. That's so funny, because I fucking hate those movies. It is, and we always like halfway through them, like we'll be quoting like

before the lines come where we're like, we always know some scientist is going to go mother of God and take off his glasses and then at the end of San Andreas it was perfect. Oh my god. Like spoiler alert. It came out like years ago. Yeah. Whatever. But at the end of it like the you know chaos hasn't sued throughout the entire movie.

Yeah. And then all of a sudden one of them one of the survivors looks at Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Oh, yeah. Of course. And says, what do we do now? Oh, John literally goes, we rebuild. And then he goes, we rebuild. And I was like, you nailed it. I love it. That was my favorite moment ever. It was we rebuild. I feel like I remember you're like hanging out with you the next day and you're telling me that. I was so impressed. I was so impressed. I love that. So impressed. See, I was so impressed. I love that. So impressed. See, whenever Annie and I go to the movies,

we don't have a specific genre that we pick, but Annie has a very different movie taste than I do. Yeah. And so it will be like, oh, it's your turn to pick and then it's my turn. So we just see the most ridiculous movies. Oh yeah. If you put them all on a page together

because you're covering just a wide net. We once went to see Frickin, the Christopher Robin movie. Oh yeah. I like Annie literally started sobbing. I was like, no thank you. To the entire thing and your girl fell asleep. Annie's sobbing. Hello.

Oh, I have a landline now. This has happened before, I think. Sorry, everybody. Who is it? Who the fuck calls a landline? Why is there a landline in my laundry room? That's what I want to know. It's really just a telemarketing.

No one's going to answer that. It's just going to be real about that. Yeah. And it's too far away for me to shut it off. So sorry. That's just keep entering through this. People are going to be like, wow, that's a long fucking intro. It certainly is.

I'm like, well, Jake from State Farm is calling. So please hold on. You know, we're just going back to our roots real quick and having a 10-minute intro. Sometimes I miss them. Sometimes I'm back, we're going back to our roots real quick and having a 10 minute interview. Sometimes I miss them. Sometimes I'm like, today at work, I ordered a Venti Manonize Chai and I spilled it. Oh my god.

That was sort of the best one. Like people were like, who gives a fuck, Ash? Shut up. But these were all relevant, I feel. Yeah, these were. And it's just me like delaying the inevitable of getting to this thing. I was literally just gonna ask you.

I'm like, are you just trying to put this off? Yeah, all right, well, you know what? Here we are, we're gonna start. Yeah, so if you let this go in. I know some people skip over the intro, so I just wanna quickly say again, this case is about a child and it does involve sexual abuse, rape, and assault.

So if that's not your jam, see you on Saturday. Which it shouldn't be your jam? No. If it is your jam, seek some help please. But yeah, but if I don't want to, yeah, that's a really poor choice of words. It's not your jam? That's not your jam, Sashman. Just go jam somewhere else. I'm sorry, I'm a horrible person. All right, so let's get serious.

Let's get into a state of depression. Yeah. Hey there, fellow podcast listener, it's Elena. And Ash! And we're taking you back to the days before streaming services. Whoa! You know when you would come home from high school

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an America's criminal justice system. Follow American scandal wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wonder App. So Sarah Haley Foxwell was born on May 18th, 1998, in Salisbury, Maryland. And I Google how to say that. So if I'm wrong, blame Google and not me. She did, I heard it. Thank you.

So Sarah was the middle child in a really big family, and her nickname was Haley Bug. Oh, okay, just kill me now. Yeah, sorry. Because like I said, her middle name was Haley, so they'd call her Haley Bug. Sarah's mom said that she was like the referee and the family. She would always like break up any like arguments between people because she just wanted people to be happy all the time. Mediator. And she was always trying to make other people happy. She was always happy. Like her mom said no matter how hard her day had been, that she was smiling through it all. And

good. Yeah, so once she turned 11, she started sixth grade. She just wanted to be called Sarah. She was like, no more Haleybug. My fucking name is Sarah. Yeah, she's evolving as a human being. She is. It can be Sarah. You know when you get to sixth grade,

you're like, cut my weird nickname. Yeah, I'm being serious now. Like, it's just Sarah. I'm Sarah. So she was getting older, like I said, she didn't eat her nickname, but she was still sweet. And even though the difficulty she and her family were going through, she was sweet through it all.

But the family was definitely having a difficult time. Sarah and her siblings were living with their mom's sister Amy and their grandpa in 2009, because Jennifer, the mom, was having a really tough time, but she was still going to be spending Christmas with them. Okay, so it's kind of vague exactly what was going on, but put two and two together. Yeah. In Jennifer, I got a lot of information from Crime Watch Daily, like it was like a little YouTube video, but she told them she remembered that she was trying to work over time to make sure everyone what they got what they asked for for Christmas that year. And she told Crime Watch Daily that Sarah wanted a pair of Chuck Taylors.

Oh, and that she didn't know what they were. She was like, I didn't know what they were, but I had to get them. But I was like, how fucking rad is this little girl? She wants some chucks. I'm actually, oh my gosh, I'm wearing my chucks right now. I love that. So on the night of December 22nd, 2009,

Sarah and her siblings were dressed in their Christmas PJs. Okay. Having pizza for dinner and just like goofing around the house, like getting ready for Christmas, talking about how excited they were. And around nine o'clock it was time for bed. So Sarah and her little sister Emma literally skipped down the hallway, like her aunt remembers that they skipped down the hallway to their bedroom. Now the house was like an older barn house, but it was converted into like a home home, the house was like an older barn house, but it was converted into like a home home, actually kind of like our house that we grew up in. Good good.

But I think it was one floor from looking at it. It seems like it was, I'm not totally sure. It also doesn't matter at all. But it's also not relevant at all. It's also not even slightly relevant. Me just like going off track just to like, like let's talk about something else. Like the bedroom.

So there, like I said said their bedroom was down a hallway at the end of the hallway next to the back door. So yeah. Now that that freaks me out. Me too. Like having a door. A door near like it's fine. I don't want it near my bedroom, but if it's between my bedroom and the kids bedroom, it's gonna be next to my bedroom. Yeah, I feel like I... Given the, if given the choice, I have a choice. Yeah, based on everything I know about True Crime, I'm just like literally never put your kids near an exit.

No, don't do it. As much as it would make sense, like God forbid there was ever a fire or anything, they could get out first, but I feel like True Crime is more likely to happen than a fire. And it's like, I just, I would not be able to relax for even a second, knowing that there was a door near my children.

No, I feel like putting your children to bed in general, like you don't ever relax, because you're constantly just like, are you breathing? Yeah. But like, I'm gonna have a monitor on my kids till I think they're like, approximately 16. I don't blame you. Like, their kids are like, really precious. They are, they're precious cargo.. I don't blame you. Like their kids are like really precious.

They are, they're precious cargo. And you're fucking in charge of them. That is the biggest like, woe of life. It's like when you have a kid, it's like, oh shit, like I have to be really careful with you. Yeah. Like I have to keep you alive.

I have to keep you thriving, right? I have to nourish you. I have to nurture you. I have to teach the shit out of you. I have to teach you literally everything you will ever know. I have to nurture you. I have to teach the shit out of you. I have to teach you literally everything you will ever know. I have to teach you the English language and I can barely do it. It's a lot. It is. But it's great, but it's a lot. It is. So these doors... It's doors creep me out. We're skipping down the hallway to the bedroom next to the back door.

Oh, so sad. Now all the doors and windows were locked that night. Like tight, as the rest of the house went to bed, they locked all the doors and everything, then everybody went to bed. Now, something wasn't quite right the next morning, when I believe the grandpa woke up, that went to go wake up the kids to get them ready for school. And then he went to on Amy and was like, Sarah's now in her room. Well, this was Christmas Eve, right?

No, it was December 22nd. Oh, December 22nd, I said it. Yeah, okay. So he said he was waking them up for school. Okay. And he went to go to, he went to Amy and he was like, Sarah's not in her bed. Like, have you seen her like throughout the house?

And Amy was like, no. So they start like ransacking the house, looking for Sarah, they're looking outside and they can't find her anywhere. Panning. And then Amy goes to the bathroom, like just to check that out, and realizes that Sarah's green tooth brush is missing.

That, I don't know why, that sends fucking chills down my spine. You know why? Because I was talking about it to myself because of who I am, it's a person. Something so, like, because that's a very mundane task, brushing your teeth. Yes, that's just something you do every morning,

every night without thinking. For that, like a little, and it's very innocent, like a little girl's green tooth brush, for that to be missing. Yeah. It's just like, it's very unsettling. And it tells a lot about intentions. Yeah.

Like a lot about what was going on here. I know, it's just not something I want to even think about. My mind wander into. No. It's a dark place. Because you bring you into a dark place. And we can kind of talk about it a little bit after, because you never really find out exactly

like why her toothbrush was gone, but we can kind of talk about it a lot. Yeah, we can kind of me and you. I'm like amongst ourselves, so I'll us here. We can infer. So the other thing was that Sarah Shoes and her coat were still in the house. So that was weird.

Yeah. So Amy immediately called her sister Jennifer and was like Sarah's nowhere to be found. But other than that, all of her important things except for the toothbrush are here. So like what the fuck, like I don't know what's going on. So right off the bat, Jennifer was like, something is wrong here, so like what the fuck, like I don't know what's going on. So right off the bat, Jennifer was like something is wrong here, obviously. But also it was 25 degrees out, two days

out from Christmas and it had been snowing. So where had Sarah gone without a jacket and without shoes? No, we're good. No, we're good. So Jennifer headed out to the house and the police got called like right away. Now when the police arrived on scene they started searching in the house outside of the house, like just like any, like looking for any sign of Sarah. And they double checked like all the doors in the windows because Amy was like, no, like they were all shut tight. Like every door in window I double check them every single night. Yeah.

Whoa, that just scared the shit out of me. Sorry. But that's siren if you heard it. So they looked for any sign of a break in, and all the doors and windows were locked just like Amy told them. So they're going through and they're checking every single one and they get to the back of the house.

And the door just opens. Oh. The back door just opens right up, like just, it was unlocked. I, so. But she knew that it was locked the night before. She knew that it was locked the night before because she locked it herself.

And you even said, my God, why the world is trying to get in contact seriously. But can you imagine, like I know I say this all the time, I think people always say it, like you say, can you imagine all that? We both do. But how can you not, like how, when you're going telling these stories, you have to put yourself there. You immediately your mind goes to you, like holy shit, what if this was me?

And if my brain didn't go there, I feel like I would be officially desensitized from everything. Honestly, it shows that you're an empath. It's, you have to put yourself, especially when you have like kids or family, people you love. Yeah, I was just gonna love ones.

Just loved ones in general. Yeah. Knowing you locked that door, I'm just gonna love ones. Just loved ones in general. Yeah. Knowing you locked that door, and then having it be unlocked. And then just going to open it and click it just opens. You're like, because that's your safety net at first. Even though she's gone.

Mm-hmm. In her head, she's probably sitting there thinking, I locked that door. So knowing came in here, because I locked that door. Exactly. And as soon as it clicks open,

it's like, we'll fowse. There goes any hope of this didn't happen. It's like, and how I met your mother, except like completely different, but when the glass shatters, like, oh, yeah, it's so true. All of a sudden that like, perfect little like image, just naive, you know, blissful ignorance. Gone. So they're like, okay, you said you locked all the doors, but this one's wide open. And she's like, no, like, there's no reason that should be open. And then she kind of trails off. And she's like, okay, you said you locked all the doors, but this one's wide open and she's like, no, there's no reason that should be open. And then she kind of trills off and she's like,

she's like, there's a spare key, or I don't know if they asked her, but she was like, I keep a spare key on the porch under this little garden decoration. So they went to go check and see if the spare key was still there and they were met with an empty slab of porch underneath. So the spare key is gone. Oh, I'm a big proponent of no spare keys outside.

I'm also a big proponent of literally a spare key. I'm just one of those. I'm just one of those. If anything, like, keep it in your car. Yeah. Like, I just, you know, just if I can't get in the house, that's one thing. No, I don't want to. I don't want to.

I don't want to. I don't want to. I'm just one else getting in there. So now they realize whoever was with Sarah, not only knew where the spare key was hidden, but also knew exactly which bedroom to go into. Because remember, there's a lot of kids in the house. Yeah. And they went to that exact bedroom. It took one specific child. Exactly. Because like I was just going to say, remember, she shares the bedroom with her sister Emma. Oh yeah. But this person who ever took her just wanted Sarah.

Oh, that's even worse. So that goes to show this is somebody that you know. Yeah. So that's super weird. And then on top of that all, everyone was super confused that somebody had come into the house because now the police are like, well, somebody must have come in here like who do you know that knows where your spare key is?

But they're like, the dog didn't bark. Oh. So this is like- So this is somebody who's very familiar. Yeah. So letifying the fact that this is somebody who's been around this family for a while Wow, and the police explained that like whoever they were searching for totally knew this family and specifically a targeted Sarah They were like whoever this is has like a fascination with Sarah

Holy shit. So at that point they put out a statewide Amber alert and police started searching for her 24-7, just hoping that they'd be able to get her home for Christmas. Because remember, at this point, she had gone to sleep on the 22nd. This is the 23rd now, so we're like not far from Christmas at all. So the sheriff whose name is Mike Lewis encouraged people to search their properties on their own and tie a little yellow ribbon around their mailbox if they had searched and like nothing had come up. And he went to do a helicopter ride just like pretty quickly after he made that announcement. And he said the entire community was lit up with yellow ribbons.

Really? Yeah. So everybody was searching. Which was like a touching but haunting reminder that she was still out there wanting to be found. So every officer they had was working around the clock and almost like all of them were working. And there were special dogs that got brought in, law enforcement across the country swooped into help. There were people who had come all the way from North and South Dakota

ready to like search for Sarah. Oh, shit. I mean, when a child is taken out of their bed in the middle of the night, that shit is so beyond nightmarish. Yeah, that will rock a fucking nation. Oh yeah. Easily. So the family was all stationed at the house just waiting to find anything out. And again, like I said, there's other kids in this house. They had still have to take care of these other kids. Oh my god. I would never. Which I how are you even mentally capable at that point? How do you ever sleep in a different room than your child after that? I Oh my God. I would never. Which how are you even mentally capable at that point? How do you ever sleep in a different room than your child

after that? I don't know. I would literally be like, you're sleeping in my bed forever, forever. And like, I never letting you go. Like, I don't know how these beds, I give these parents and like guardians so much credit for like being able to continue on. I know.

Well, they're just sitting there like, who do we know that has a spare key? Who would have like taken Sarah? Like, that has a spare key? Who would have taken Sarah? Like, who has a weird fascination with her? I can't think of anybody. Now, while that's going on, Sarah's little sister Emma, who by the way was six years old, and she's the one that she shared the room with,

she comes over to her grandma who's at the house, like with the whole family and tugs on her nightgown. And she says, I have a secret. Oh, no. Oh, she's six. Sheown. And she says, I have a secret. Oh, no. Oh, she's six. She's six and she says, I have a secret. A baby. And the grandma whispers, or the grandma

leans down in Emma whispers to her that she knows who took Sarah. Oh my God. She said, a man was in the room that night and woke her up, but she pretended to be sleeping because she was scared, but she heard everything that he said to Sarah and knew exactly who he was. She said, I saw them talking, and then I saw them leave, and she said he was wearing blue jeans,

white sneakers, and an orange coat, and his name was Mr. Tommy. I hate this so much. This case is so fucked. Now, we're going to talk about who Mr. Tommy was. Oh no. So Thomas Legs was a well-known name in this community, especially to the police. This dude is like an absolute monster. So again, warning if you don't wanna hear about some gruesome shit. Now's your chance. And we're gonna be real hard on this guy.

So that's that upset you. Maybe, don't listen. That should have upset you, but whatever. So he was a registered sex offender, not only in Maryland, but also in Delaware. And he had previously been sentenced to seven years in prison for the fourth degree rape of a teenage girl. Now, she's listed as being either 16 or 17 years old

at the time she was attacked. Somehow, they let this motherfucker out early on good behavior after serving six months of his fucking sentence. Come on. Six months of a seven year sentence for raping a 16 or 17 year old girl. And I'm sorry, you're good in prison. Yeah, because you get out early,

even though that doesn't prove that you don't have these compulsions anymore. When I'm sorry to be really blunt here, but there's no little girls walking around prison. Exactly. Obviously he's being good. He can't do what he does best. What he does best.

Like fucking disgusting. Come on, man. So obviously that letting him out ended up being a huge mistake because he landed himself right back in prison. This time on charges of a third-degree sexual offense involving a child. Now I want to kill this guy. It only gets worse. For that offense, he only spent another six months in jail. And because the leopard never changes its spots, as soon as he got out, he reoffended almost immediately

and landed himself back in jail. Because he's doing like five minutes in jail each time. Right, and I was thinking of pattern here at this point, he probably knows I'm gonna get a slap on the wrist. I come back out, I do the same thing. And then I come back out and it's like... Someone give him a fucking consequence. Right, it's like, you're letting him trick the system.

God. So like I said, he ended up in jail again. Now this last offense was reported by a 24 year old woman who told police that he crawled through her bedroom window at in the middle of the night, and she woke up to him almost completely naked. He was wearing boxers. His clothes just scattered on the floor around him,

quote, committing a sexual act over her as he watched her sleep. What the fuck? So essentially, you know, over her in the middle of the night as she's sleeping. If only she had something to cut it right off. Cut it right, I'll arena-bobbit that shit. And here it is again, I've said this before,

anybody who comes into your fucking house in the middle of the night'sy person is so beyond unhinged terrifying human person like That's a Damon a Damon because straight up Damon cuz they have no idea what they're coming into and they don't care They don't give a fuck. They don't know if they're walking into I mean you could have like 17 shotguns pointed at their window They have no idea. And they don't care. They're just gonna come in anyway. That's fucked.

That's the scariest. That's what it is. That just scares the shit out of anybody. Home invasion scare the shit out of me. Home invaders are some of the scariest people. It is. We have, where I'm going off track here, but we had like a maintenance team come in the other day to my apartment to like flush a water valve, I don't know. But we have like just like a regular team come in the other day to my apartment to like flush of water valve.

I don't know. But we have like just like a regular door lock, but all of the maintenance people have the key to that. So we added like a dead nut. What's that thing called on the top? Like a latch? Yeah, like a chain lock. Like a chain lock, but I was like so freaked out that anybody had just a fucking master

key to my apartment. I was like jokes on you. We added another lock. And you know what guys get simply safe because it makes the doo-doo doo-doo. Exactly. So, but okay, so he broke into this girl's house and she goes to tell the police.

Now she told the police and reporters that she had met Thomas and invited him to her home actually on an occasion before this. But he got super weird and she like basically forced him to leave. Oh, no. He got weird in a sexual way. It's not totally like uncovered what he said or did, but he, I guess, apologized a few days later, like for the initial thing, and they made amends, but then she woke up to him that night doing this over her. No. And like I said,

she told him to get the fuck out. Now she said she noticed later that he had cut open the screen to one window and almost completely removed the screen on another bedroom window. So this motherfucker came ready? This is scary. Removed the screen to her bedroom window. That is so indicative of like the scariest pathology. It's like when law enforcement doesn't see this

and doesn't act properly with this shit ahead of time, this is the shit that happens. Y'all, exactly. You ignore that kind of like indicators of a really scary pathology. A very dangerous human. And then look at the escalation that's happening here. Exactly, we went from-

You could have stopped it. Sexual offense, sexual offense, sexual offense, sexual offense, probably like I can't even, I don't even know how many are on this guy's happening here. Exactly. We went from... You could have stopped it. Sexual offense, sexual offense, sexual offense, probably, like, I can't even, I don't even know how many are on the screen. You know how many are on the screen? You're on the screen? You're on the screen? Yeah. Because some of them, like, the charges were dropped because we all know how sexual offense

is. Yeah. And it's like somebody, you can fucking look at this shit. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you just gotta, you gotta nip it before it gets this bad time. Exactly. Now, and here's the fucking kicker here. This last offense happened just a few months before December of 2009.

So he would have, he got incarcerated again, but he posted bond and was able to get out and do this to Sarah. Oh. The spoiler alert, obviously, he's the one that took Sarah. So like the deranged animal he was, he's ready to pran his next victim. Hello. Now I hate that. I also, like I said,

I wanna point out that these are just the reported crimes, and I can't imagine how many other young girls were assaulted by him. The Baltimore Sun also reported that on the same day, his newborn daughter was being brought home because the skies are falling. Fucking kidding me. On the same day, his baby girl, his brand new baby girl being brought home because this guy's a father. Fucking kidding me. On the same day his baby girl, his brand new baby girl, was brought home. He attacked a 13 year old girl.

So clearly we're talking about a guy that will literally just stop at nothing to just recomplete havoc on society. And you know, like that for it's just so much. I just want to like scream. It is. It's a lot. Because also like the fact that he, first of all the fact that he was having a child when he's clearly a child predator is so beyond

my brain capacity. On real. But then on top of that, you have a baby girl and she's being a brussel. And that doesn't change anything about the way that you view. That alone shows you. Cause that deep, this sicknesses in him,

like it's crazy. Make him go away. Cause he needs to get away from suicide. But that didn't work for Thomas. That's not what happened for him. Now, we've been talking about like all these people that he's assaulted and it kind of seems like these girls are at random, but I've been saying this person

knew Sarah and had a fascination with her. So how did he know Sarah? How did he know Sarah? He had dated her aunt Amy. Oh, fuck. Now while dating Thomas, Amy did find out that he was a registered sex offender and she confronted him.

But somehow he convinced her it was all a big mistake and that he hadn't actually done anything wrong. Okay. Little did Amy know there was no mistake because Thomas' own ex-wife knew that he was dangerous. She divorced him three years earlier and had a restraining order put out against him to not only protect herself but their daughter

because she reported to the court that one night their daughter was super, super sick. And for some reason, Thomas was pissed off that she was sick, and she said that after punching a wall, he told her he was gonna kill her, and that if she took any legal action against him, she would also kill her. Okay.

So, when you bring a person into a home with children, if it comes up that they're a sexual a rapist, and they tell you, no, it's just a big misunderstanding, go find out if it is a big misunderstanding. Do a little more recent stuff for yourself. Yeah, and it's like, don't bring a rapist into a house with children. No. I think that's a pretty good thing to say. I'm sure someone's gonna yell at me about that,

but I think that's a pretty generalized good rule of thumb. Because no matter what mistake somebody claims was made, if they're a registered sex offender, do not keep them in your life if you're around young children. Yeah, you just see camps. Exactly. And that's just, that's just reality. And here's the deal. The, she, the ex-wife was actually granted the restraining order while he was out on parole for sexual assault. Yeah, I mean, come on. Like, he's, he's a web

of sexual assault. Hi, it's really hard to get a fucking restraining order. So the fact that she was granted one goes to show this is a dangerous dude. It's true, he is. It's ridiculous. And it's, I mean, he's got plenty of rap sheet to back it up. Oh yeah, there was no mistake made at all. Because the first assault that landed him on the sex offender registry in general was a sexual assault made on a 12-year-old girl in 1997.

Honestly, fuck this guy. Like, fuck this guy. Like, fuck this guy. So this girl had been with her friends at a haunted house where they met Thomas, who at the time was 18, and he was like volunteering on like the trail to like scare people. Now, he spent the rest of the night hanging out with these girls. Twelve-year-old. 18, and he's hanging out with 11 and 12-year-old girls, because some of them were 11. Now, it kind of sounds like it was like a camping place or something because he spent the rest of the night

with them there, like playing cards. So I don't know if it was like a camp or something like that, but he stayed up with them. And one of the girls was like specifically very shy and her friends were like, oh, it seems like he likes you. Like, I don't know, I guess they were, whatever, but they went off and they like left their friend with Thomas

and she's 12. I'm not gonna go into detail because I don't even wanna say in detail what he did to this girl. But the girl was sexually assaulted and her parents found out shortly after by reading her diary. Cause she wrote about it in her diary.

She was completely traumatized. Now, he was sentenced to four years in prison for this. Four years. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm so fucked. And yet again, he was out- Somebody used to prison for like ever, for like having like an ounce of weed on them. Right. And this guy raped a 12-year-old. Right. And he's in prison for four years. That's fucked. Exactly. And I should say he didn't necessarily rape her. I just don't want anybody to get mad and say I said the wrong thing. But I should say he didn't necessarily rape her. I just don't want anybody to get mad and say, I said the wrong thing.

But he's sexually assaulted her. He assaulted her. He assaulted her. A 12-year-old, like, yeah, come on. Yeah. Come on. Now, again, I said he was sentenced to four years, out in a matter of months, because the system was so fucked

at the time. So fucked up. Now, that first offense that he put guilty to happened just four days before Sarah was born. Isn't that crazy? Oh my God. And I should point out the Baltimore Sun, that's where I found that.

Oh, I hate you. Which I was like, wow. Now, so we're back to present day. Police go out to Thomas's address just a few miles away from Sarah's house, a few miles, and they knock on the front door of the home. But it turns out that the home they were at was actually his parents house And she want to know where he lived he lived he lived in a shed on their property

Oh, I like if you live in a shed. That's totally fine I bet it's super chic, but this guy's shed was disgusting and you know what the he's he doesn't deserve a shed He doesn't even deserve a shed. He doesn't even deserve a box. He doesn't deserve shelter So they had out toward the shed, the police, and they took them in for questioning. They later searched the shed and found it to be filled with pornographic material like magazine and films. And all the investigators said that being there

made their skin crawl, but even when they left, they still felt like so fucked up by being there. Like they were like, there was something like completely, like just horrible about this place. Yeah. This guy's fucked. So Thomas was completely unemotional during his questioning. You can actually go see it on the,

crime watch daily, the little video I mentioned, and I can, I can post the link to it. But he was super unemotional, super uncooperative. He told the detective, I've been dealing with this shit for the past 10 years. Oh, you've been dealing with it. Exactly. I'm like, you poor fucking little baby. Oh! I literally wrote, oh, I'm sorry

that you're a revolting vile man and people are angry about it. I'm so sorry that you traumatizing children all over the fucking town is something you're dealing with. Dealing with. How hard that must be for you. Oh, my God. Like, fuck off. Can we all line up and punch this fucker in the face? Yeah, punch, it's almost legs in the face.

It's like punch am I a Hindley supporter? It's just punch Thomas Lace for Hindley. It's a supporter punch at Thomas Lace in the face. Seriously, punch all of them. So he said he tried to be, quote, very cautious with the girls. I don't be alone with them, so I can't make mistakes.

You're disgusting. I don't be alone with them. You're disgusting. He also provided an alibi for that night saying that he was at a bar with his friend until 1 a.m. that morning. So that statement might have been true. He very well could have been a bar until 1 a.m. leaves the entire rest of the night. Literally the entire night.

Fucking idiot. And nobody, not even his own parents, could account for where he was between the hours of one and seven a.m. Oh God. So where's your alibi for that time? Okay. Oh God. Now in the detective ass, why Emma specifically would have said

that he was in the bedroom that night, he said, he basically called you a troublemaker and said she was always doing quote odd little things. Oh, that's six-year-old? She's such a troublemaker. Oh my God. He's calling her a liar. Oh, that's six-year-old. She's such a troublemaker. Oh my God. He's calling her a liar. A fucking six-year-old.

When you know what you did to her sister and you know that you were in that fucking room that night, you're gonna call her a liar. And you know, and again, he knows he's traumatized even this six-year-old child who had to witness this entire thing and had to hold that shit in her fucking death for a little girl. He probably loves that, though,

because it's like- Oh, he's like, it's assault adjacent. Yeah, he loves that he's able to keep this assault happening from afar. Exactly. Now he also claimed that it had been a month since he had been to Amy's home. But like that was super weird because the police went out there

and they found the exact same tire marks that matched his tires in the snow. Oh, weird. Super weird that he had him in there in the month. Yeah, it's so weird this thing, like forensics. Yeah, it's so crazy. It's also super weird that once they got inside that 2003 Dodge pickup, Sarah's missing green toothbrush was there next to a lollipop on the floorboards. I want to kill him.

Yeah, super weird that you haven't been there in a month. I'm fucking lollipop. You just gusting fucking troll. I know. That for some guy. For some reason, the lollipop, I was just like- That's the classic, like, here's some candy.

Oh, god, it's disgusting. Like the kid catcher and chitty, chitty bang bang. Like he's that disgusting. So scary. Predator. He's a fucking cliche, a parody of a predator. He is. Disgusting.

Oh my God, it is so angry. No, it's so much horrible. It's absolutely horrible. So obviously the police have their guy, but they still need to find Sarah. Because they're still holding on to hope that she's still alive. Because this fucker isn't telling them anything.

Hope they're not, they're thinking it's not promising but everyone's super hopeful that they're going to get her home in time for Christmas. Like, you have to hold on to some hope or else, I don't know how you get through your death. So the county sheriff Mike Lewis said this was his most difficult case in his 35 years of law enforcement. I believe it. He said it did show like a different side of people though because people were coming

out in massive numbers to find Sarah. And when she hadn't been found by Christmas, people gave up their Christmas celebrations just to search for her. Oh, I love that. So her mom Jennifer told Crime Watch, it literally took my breath away. They didn't care that it was freezing. They didn't care that they had Christmas with their families. Now the command post actually had to be relocated

to a local baseball stadium because so many people were coming to help. It's like the worst side of humanity and the best side of humanity, all in one. Over 300,000 people came to look for her. Oh, shit. And actually, I'm not gonna say this person's name because they didn't say whether I should or not,

but one of our listeners suggested this case and actually worked passing out waters to volunteers. Yeah, so she gave up her Christmas that day. I'll search for their family. And I think she was 10 at the time. Oh my God, high five to you. I know. When I was an adult and you was a 10-year-old.

I know. So the police were able to use cell data from Thomas' phone to see if they could narrow down a search area, kind of like in the Sydney Loof case that we just did. So cell phone pings, man. I thought can love a good cell phone. Thank goodness we're all addicted to our cell phones.

I know, and this was in 2009, so that was really cool. And they were able to triangulate a location based off of three towers that his cell phone had panged off of. So they searched all day long and unfortunately, but also fortunately, right around four o'clock in the afternoon, they found Sarah's body. It's going to get, like I said, I already gave a trigger warning at the beginning of this, but I'm going to give a second one just because of the way that her body was found. I'm not happy that I'm listening to this.

I know this is probably not for you, but. Okay. So my glue is described how her little body was found right on the Delaware Maryland state line. It was found on Lily Lane, which is like a little road and I guess it's like 60 feet into the woods according to chilling crimes. Quote, she was laying on her back with her little arms reached out to the sky to heaven. Her fist clenched. She had been kidnapped, raped and choked. Thomas attempted to drown her in a mud puddle, but that did not work. So, and they found this out because mud and debris were later found in her lungs during an autopsy. Thomas left her there when that didn't work to go get gasoline, came back to burn the body. Allegedly, he thought that Sarah was already dead, but the autopsy later showed smoke inhalation, meaning that she was still alive when he lit her on fire.

So she was breathing on her own fumes? Exactly. And DNA linked him to Sarah in a number of ways. Her pyjama fibers, her pyjama fibers that she was wearing that night were left on the passenger side of his truck. So he sat there and tried to say that he didn't do this. It's like, then why is her tooth brush found in your car? Why is a lollipop with her DNA found in your car? Why is pajama fibers that belong to her in your car? How are you gonna explain that? You're gonna wear Christmas pajamas.

No, this is the most appalling. This is fucked up and disgusting. He was still wearing the same underwear when he was brought in for questioning and Sarah's DNA was found in that underwear. The same underwear. Put me in a fucking room with him. Seriously.

And give me a chainsaw. Like, what? What a vile monster. An absolute monster. Now, the sheriff said, quote, if there was ever a case that screamed for the death penalty, it was this case. It was the brutal kidnapping and brutal murder and brutal destruction of this little girl's body that had screamed for the death penalty.

100%. This man deserved to die. Yes. You actually mentioned something to me because I told you a little bit about this. I normally lean and I don't tell each other about the cases that we're going to do, but I wanted to make sure it was okay with her that I'd do this. Which I appreciate. No problem. But you mentioned something to me when I told you about how the body was going to go.

Oh, yeah. Because her arms were like up and fist, like stretched toward the sky. And you explained to me why that happened. Yeah, that's often referred to as like boxers pose. And it's how people know that like there was an attempt to light someone on fire. Because oftentimes when a body is lit on fire,

your hands will go into boxers pose. It's just this like phenomenon that happens. Yeah. So as soon as I had like you had told me like her hands were and I immediately was like, was she lit on fire? Yeah. And you were like, holy shit, she was. And it's like, that's what it is.

It's called like boxer stance or boxer pose. Which I had never heard of. And researching this whole thing, I never saw that mentioned once. Well, in the thought that she was partially drowned and then left alone, out there, yeah, like in whatever state she was, it's very reminiscent of the poly class case.

It is. Because you think of poly, I believe she was in the trunk at one point when, like, he was being detained, right? Yeah. It was like, it was just, there was a lot of weird, and this also reminds me, and it's a case we're going to be covering soon, actually. Yeah. The Shanda Shayer case where she was lit on fire, and she was clearly alive because the

same thing they found, evidence of it in her lungs And was she found in the boxers pose, do you know? I believe she was in like a fetal position Okay, but I'm I think her arms were curled up too because I think she was on her side like in a fetal position But I think her hands were curled up like in the boxer pose. That's so it's weird like what your body does In her Christmas pajamas. In our Christmas. This little baby in our Christmas pajamas.

Like two days, three days before Christmas. And it's found on Christmas day. Everybody doesn't agree with the death penalty, and that's totally fine. Oh, again, I am, we've always said we're in a middle. That it's a gray area. This to me? 100%.

Yeah. 100%. Yeah. So he was facing the% yeah, 100% yeah. So he was facing the death penalty, but yet again, he lucked out because he was granted a plea deal. Now normally, I would be really pissed off about that, but I'll explain in a minute why it would be a good one. It is.

Now, he received two consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole, one for first to remurder, one for first to resexual offense, and then an additional 30 years for kidnapping and additional 20 years for burglary. I believe the burglary, I don't know if that was Sarah's case. I think that might have, because remember, he got on a bond for the case with the 24-year-old, I think that might have been applicable to that case. Oh, okay. Because I don't, I'm pretty sure he didn't steal anything

other than Sarah from the house. But, so like he got a lot of time, thank God, and like I said, no possibility for parole. So he'll be in there forever. Yes. And honestly, that's almost, that's almost better. Not because I think he's gonna have to think about what he did, because he doesn't give a shit.

Like that's not one of those cases where it's like, you have to live with like, you've done. Because he doesn't give a shit. That doesn't work. We don't want him to think about it either. It's the fact that he can't do it. Exactly. That's the fact that makes me happy

because that motherfucker needs to do it. Oh yeah. So it's somewhat comforting to me that it's like, killing him. You can't. That he can. And as we all know, and I will get into that actually in a second, sexual offenders of like children do not do well in prison.

No. Love that prison hierarchy. Now first, I want to explain why I'm like happy that the plea deal was brought into play. It was made so that Emma wouldn't have to testify in court because I love. And I guess like to this day or at least to the day that the crime watch daily was filmed, she hadn't said what was said in that room. Like she won't talk about what he was saying to Sarah. I, because that, and that hurts me even more.

Yeah. Because it's like that poor little thing. Oh yeah. Has that inside of her. Exactly. You know, that's a lot of, that's some heavy shit to hold on to. Really heavy. I hope she's been able to like, talk to someone, get some kind of counsel, like a therapist about it, a psychiatrist about it, just to get it out. Yeah, because that she doesn't need to go anywhere else because she's in prison.

Right. But just get it out because that shit will live in your nervous system. I just don't want her to have to have that. That's it. That's like a whole different kind of trauma. Yeah, that's a whole different kind of assault. It is absolutely. Well, it's literally like I said, assault adjacent. Yeah. So, so that plea deal was made so she wouldn't have to testify in court. And then they also didn't think that they were gonna really get the death penalty, unfortunately, because the governor at the time was actually working to get it off the table,

yeah, off the table, exactly. And it's a hard thing to get, because again, we've always said we can see both sides. Yeah, absolutely. It's easy to like, passionately be like, kill them, because like, obviously I want to we can see both sides. Yeah, absolutely. It's easy to like, passionately be like, kill them because like, obviously, I want to kill them with my bare hands. Yeah. But there's obviously been other times

where it's been a mistake. Right. So it's a really hard thing to have like, like a composting. Like a composting. If you have a full concrete stance on it because I just waver so much. I do too.

And for this one, I do like, that I can get down though with this like life and prison without parole. Me too, because also I think this is somebody that has been shown by the legal system that he wasn't gonna get much time. So you know, he was probably fucking shocked when they were like, oh yeah.

You're never getting it. You're never getting it. You're not even gonna get a chance at a parole. Like this isn't one of those, you're gonna be on good behavior for a couple months and get out to do this again. Nope. And like I said, you're also not gonna do well in jail.

No. Now, Thomas Legs was attacked almost immediately good by a fellow inmate. Like, like I said, pretty quickly once you arrived in prison. Awesome. He was slashed three times in the neck, hands, and head with a homemade weapon while he was eating in the dining hall.

Get it. So this motherfucker was just trying to eat up some oatmeal and he got good. He got got. He got got. None of his injuries, unfortunately, were too serious. It's kind of awesome though. It is.

Just keep hurting him. Yeah, just have it. That's honestly what you know. And you know, that was just like, welcome. This is just the beginning of what you're going to go through. Welcome to prison, welcome. This is just the beginning of what you're gonna go through. Welcome to prison, Thomas. Mm-hmm. So, Semgood did come out of this fucking nightmare.

It really shook the system and people realized that there was a lot of work that needed to be done regarding how we handle sexual assault in sex offender cases. Because somehow he just slipped through the cracks time and time again. And no one was seeing the escalation that was occurring. No, because again, now I'm gonna tell you one woman's story

and she was actually encouraged not to even say in court that this guy was a sex offender. What the fuck? So this woman, Patti Rothwell, told the Baltimore Sun, I got a lot of information from this article too. Quote, this little girl would be here today if the system hadn't failed in this case. Yeah. So Patti's daughter had been Subjected to Thomas legs when they lived next door to him

They're daughter and her friends one day were just like sitting on the porch and Thomas came up to her and just like Just started talking to her and all these like little girls on the porch. Do you know how old they were? I did not say I believe they were I don't but these are way, but they were, I don't. But these are way. But they were young. They were young. Yeah.

So the daughter of her friends, like I said, they're sitting on the porch and he walks up and he goes, quote, I've watched you playing in your yard and I can tell you're a wild one. Playing. I've watched you playing because you're a child. In your yard. Because you are a child. Yep.

And you're a wild one. That just sends like the icky icky's throughout my whole entire body. Oh my God. I just want to are a child. Yup and you're a wild one. That just sends like the icky icky's throughout my whole entire body. Oh my god I just want to take a bat. Well he then grabbed something off the porch and hit the girl on the butt with it and then quote spanked her right as he finished that creepy ass statement. So he's like saying it and then he hits around the butt with something and then slaps her butt. I honestly give this woman so much credit because after finding that out, oh yeah, I would have literally murdered him

with my bare hands. On my property, yes. Like I would have gone to his home and murdered him with my bare hands. Yeah. So Patty's daughter like runs inside to tell her mom what's going on. And Patty realized that she had seen this guy before.

She's like, he looks super familiar because when they moved there, she looked at the sex offender registry, because you can see sex offenders in your neighborhood. And that's where she recognized him from. So that event, the events of that day later went to court. And he was found not guilty on all three counts that he was facing.

And it was because Patty was encouraged not to mention during the trial that he was a sex offender. What? This is a sexual offense, sexual assault case, and you're not allowed to say that he's a sex offender? That's insane. Because people were worried that he wouldn't get a fair trial. Oh, come on. It's like, if anything, the trial isn't fair because you're withholding information about this person's character and what they're capable of.

Come on. It's unreal. fair because you're withholding information about this person's character and what they're capable of. Come on. It's unreal. Now, so the sex offender of like seeing being able to see it in your neighborhood is a very good tool when you're moving to a new neighborhood. Obviously, this is not a lot. You can do about it, but it's like, it gives you the information. Well, and it can factor into if you're not a bad house or not.

Knowledge is power. So it's just, you should know where they live. Seriously. Now, a county state's attorney said, quote, many sex offenders are masters of manipulation. They dress well, they're articulate, and the only witnesses of minor. These are different kinds of cases, and they should be handled differently. Yes. And at the time they weren't. But after Sarah was murdered, 84 new bills were introduced by

legislatures after. So Sarah's law was passed. Now Sarah's law mandates all child sex offenders in Maryland to serve a minimum of 15 years with no possibility of parole. Good. Requires lifetime parole supervision for offenders who have been convicted of sexual abuse to a child younger than 12. Good. And life in prison is now the maximum penalty for offenders who commit certain categories

of sex crimes against children younger than 13. Good. So a lot of good came from this horrific unfortunate in their name, in Sarah's name. Sarah's mom, I'm gonna end this by a quote from her mom. She says, she's everywhere. I don't think anybody will forget about her. Oh fuck, I know. And her grave, you know, the final grave memorial thing. I went to look at it. And her grave is engraved with a photo of her. And it says, our Christmas

Angel never forgotten. Fuck. And you know, Christmas must be every single day that's the anniversary that your 11 year old baby was found was stolen from her bed in the middle of the night. From someone she knew in the three days before Christmas. Three days. Honestly, fucks me up. Oh my God. But I wanted to tell this case because I wanted to tell you, you can live your life however you'd like,

but don't leave a spare key. And don't let, if you do want to leave your spare key, you and like your partner should know where it is. And that's it. Yeah, that's it. Like, because why did he know that that was there? That's the thing. Why did he know? Why? Unless I maybe he was like just looking. Maybe he was just searching around. And sometimes people don't think of the fact that like under like a plantern shit is the first place people are going to look. Or like in your mailbox. Or like one of those fake rocks and shit like don't just don't do it now and honestly get simply safe because it's us oh my god that's it because you know what if you open the

door even with a key and that alarm is on you have to disarm that alarm before it and you have like less than a minute exactly so that shit would have been like ding ding ding and the whole house would have heard it exactly I'm just saying I'm scary I'm just saying. It's scary. I'm just saying, I like that is one thing that a security system makes you feel so at peace. The comfort level it brings is beyond. This is not an ad.

It's really not. It's just like, I don't honestly is like the only thing that really gives me peace of mind. Well, it could prevent things like this. Yeah, I mean, it just can. It can scare away, you mean, it just can. It can scare away, you know, a number of people trying to get in your house that can scare them away. Of course, there's always going to be the bad one.

The bad one, per se, go. But look at this case. This woman locked all the doors, locked all the windows. Like, and said she was like, I do this every night. Like, I triple check. I'm taking care of these not enough. But if there's like an alarm or something, at least it will, it's like a double security.

You know, at least it will wake the house up. Exactly. And in most cases, we'll alert the police to come to your house. Mm-hmm. So, this case is just so sad, I know. Merry Christmas, everyone. Seriously.

Oh my. So yeah, I'm gonna post some pictures of, she's like the cutest little thing. Oh, she's like a sweet baby angel. Like so sweet. Like, that's taken right from Georgia, from my favorite murder smells. This sweet baby angel. Sweet baby angel, but that's truly what an encompass is exactly who she is.

That phrase was created by her for like cases like this. And I obviously, I'm gonna post pictures of Thomas because that's how the Instagram works. Oh my God, I'm not kidding you because I researched this like late one night, like into the night. I can't read these things that night. I'd, it's really hard.

I ended up having a lot of nightmares that I wouldn't be kidding. I'm not even gonna be kidding. I can't do it. Ever since we started this podcast, I don't talk about it a lot, but I do get way more nightmares than I used to. Cause it like festers. It does.

But he obviously, they like put pictures throughout articles and just like passing through his face at like midnight, I was like, oh my God, get off by computer screen, I fucking hate you. And you get the fuck out of here. So terrifying. I hope he is having a miserable existence. I hope every single one of his toenails is engrossed.

And you know what, I hope he lives a very long life. I need to 100%. I hope so. Stay healthy. And Thomas. This is probably not okay to say, but like hearing him, I literally hope that like the inmates make it the worst possible experience for him.

Oh no, I hope they beat the show. I hope they beat the show. I said him every single day. It's like Jeffrey Dahmer. It's just like, well, it just happens. Yeah, it's just, sometimes the universe just takes over and this is one of those things. Because at first I was like, give up the desk penalty

and I'm like, actually, wait a second. No, it actually worked out. It actually worked out okay. Oh, so that was terrible. It's just a disgusting human being. So yeah, I don't really know how to transition to this, but you can follow us on Instagram at morbidpodcast. Hit us up on Twitter at a morbidpodcast.

Send us a jameil. morbidpodcast.gmail.com. We hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it. We heard. I just got really stressed out. That's okay. Thank you for joining me.

I liked the solidarity at the end of the year. But it's not my brain. Did you see my eyes? I was like, bitch, what are you saying? That's okay. We needed to be together in the moment. I needed to hang on to you. I got you.

But not so weird that this happens. I don't want to do it right now. Too weird. All right, bye. Bye. nd nd nd nd nd

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