Morbid - Episode 194: Tony Costa, The Cape Cod Vampire Part 1

Episode Date: December 18, 2020

This week Alaina’s got a two parter, pretty close to home for us! Tony Costa, a hippie living around Provincetown in the 60’s, was a real shady character from the start. When he was a teenager he straight up broke into the home of a girl two years younger than him, proceeded to drag her down the stairs, and later told police he, “just wanted to talk to her!” Ok, Tony. It only gets weirder from there. Patricia Walsh and Mary Ann Wysocki head to the cape for a relaxing weekend getaway and meet Tony during their stay. Interestingly enough, they never return home and Tony is the last person to see them. Alaina recommends the book, In His Garden by Leo Damore  As always, thank you to our sponsors SquareSpace: Check Out Squarespace.com/MORBID for a free trial! When you’re ready to launch, use the offer code MORBID to save 10% off your first purchase Gabi: You’re probably overpaying on car and home insurance. See how much Gabi can save you. Go to Gabi.com/MORBID. FirstLeaf: Go to TRYFirstleaf.com/morbid for 6 bottles of wine for $29.95 and free shipping HelloFresh: Go to HelloFresh.com/80morbid and use code 80morbid to get $80 off including free shipping! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hey weirdos, I'm Ash and I'm Elena. And this is super comfy today. In my living room. We are. We're not in the laundry room today because it's snowing and I don't know. Yeah. Cold in our laundry room. Yeah. It just works better to be here today. and I don't know. Yeah, cold in our laundry.

Yeah, it just works better to be here today. It does, and it's nice and comfy and cozy in this cat's. Yeah, if you hear like a bang or like a meow, they're just, they're wild and they just live in their lives. It's, you know what, it's comfy, it's cozy, there's cats, there's coffee. It's perfect. A lot of alliteration.

Cozy, comfy, cat, co-hosting a podcast. There you go. I love it. So I don't, I'm wondering if do we have any business? Mid-ness. I don't think we do. I don't think so. Um, if you are a patronus eye, I sent out your giveaways last night. Oh yes. Yay. So let us know when you get them because we're excited to give them to you. Yeah. Because you're the best. And better than the rest, except. Better than all the greats. I love everybody equally mostly.

That's true. Mostly. I feel like I should help Franklin because I really thought that he was going to like detach himself from that curtain, but I don't see that happening. Yeah. Right now we're staring at Franklin's BRB. Who is sitting in his little cat thing. I call it the hot tub. And he's got one paw up attached to the curtain.

And he's just letting it hang there. Like, well, this is where I live now. Oh, there you go. Mom took care of it. Let me do this, like carefully. Just carefully so we don't bang into stuff. There you go. That was pretty good, right?

That was good. Normally, he, like, will detach himself from the curtain, but this time he was like, nah. Maybe it was a good stretch. Yeah, I looked like one. I looked like Pilates for Kitties. It really did. Anyways, enough about my cats. Yeah, I don't think so.

This is a little late of an episode because we got Snowden yesterday, and it was really hard to get recording actually done. I was straight up Snowden, couldn't move my car until two and then even then I had to move it. Do a different place and I still couldn't get out of my apartment complex. Oh yeah, we got dumped upon in the Northeast but it was pretty cool because the girls got to sled, like really sled for the first time. Which was fun because we made a hill in our backyard and like really sled for the first time. Oh hell yeah. Which was fun, so, because we made like a hill

in our backyard and they went ham for like two hours. I cannot believe I didn't get to see that. It's so fun. It's pretty great. But yeah, so we're a little late, but that's why we gave you the bonus just in case we were gonna have to be a little late. I mean, here we are now.

Yeah, and it seems like everybody dug John's story. John is just like killing it with the stories. Right or John Allen, we love him the best. He really killed it. So this episode is my episode. And this case, I, okay, so I've seen the picture of the guy in this case, I've like run across it before. Never actually knew what case it was attached to

and never looked into it. Never heard knew what case it was attached to, never looked into it. Never heard of this case, and it takes place in Massachusetts on the cape. On the cape. And I was like, how do I not know about this? That's weird. It's my own damn state. I know about all these other cases,

however I'm not. And then I started reading further into it, and I was like, what? I've definitely heard of this, but I don't know any details whatsoever. It is an outrageous case. It's also crazy because it's in one of my favorite places. That's the thing, it's,

because a takes place, a lot of it takes place in Provincetown. The best. And in Truro, and you know, they mention Hyannis, they mention Dedem, they mention Foxboro. I used to work in Dedem. Yeah, they mention all these places, and I'm like, what, how, how did I not know? Who, what, when, where?

Who, what, when, where, why? And then I ran across this book, and it's called In His Garden by Leo Demore, or Demore. See, normally, that would be like, oh, like a gardening book, so sweet, but that's really ominous knowing that this is a true crime show,

and that's what that book is called. In his garden. No, that's, I know. Doesn't that just give you the chili willies? It gives me a visual that I don't need. Yeah, it reminds me of that movie. It's like, all that one I know. You know that movie?

That's so good. It's a movie where that guy kills women and then puts them in like the lake and he makes like an underwater garden. I don't know if I've seen that. It's a movie where that guy kills women and then puts them in the lake and he makes an underwater garden. I don't know if I've seen that. It's a great movie. Fuck, why can't I think of the name? I'm sure either people are listening

and being like, that doesn't exist. Selena, please go away now. Or the listening being like, it sounds like it does. People all this, you idiot. So I'm sorry that you're screaming at it because I do that all the time with five years ago. I'm like, it's this.

Why aren't you saying it? But sometimes people are like, it's this. And I'm like, no, it's not it. Like my dream, so many people probably sent me like 30 different movies, it was none of them. None of them, wow. I think I made part of it. I think you did.

I think it was a dream. I think you did. Well, this one's called, like, House by the Lake or something. Or Lake House. That's how it's something like that. That sounds legit. And it's like he kills women. And then like puts like ways them down in his lake and

has this garden of women that are just like weighted down that he can go visit. Is he like a scuba diver? He's just like, yeah, it's real fuck up. That's not really. It's pretty gnarly. But it reminds me of this, but not underwater. Okay. This is that case on land.

This is not really anything like that case, but just in his garden, because he called it his garden. No, I feel you. Yeah, you know, we, I've got enough of the beaten trails. Things remind me of things that have nothing to do with each other. So I get you. So this took place in the late 60s. Early 70s. Yes, baby. Provincetown was like, you know, full of hippies and full of fishermen. That's, and they coexisted well together. Yeah, because hippies can coexist with anybody. And fishermen are like chill. That's a, that's a very false statement.

I am. hippies can coexist with them. I am, but like, truly hippies. That's the most false. The real ones. Nope, still false. I don't know, I like them. A lot of people hate hippies.

I know that's true. So they can't coexist with anyone. That's true. So it's actually kind of shocking that fishermen and hippies like chilled together. Yeah. I think they just knew the other one wasn't gonna bother the other one. So they just existed. Well yeah, because they're like out on boats, the fishermen. They just out on boats. They're just chilling on the boat. And then the hippies are like smoke and doobies on land. Yeah. exactly. Like very symbiotic. Very symbiotic.

I don't even know what that means to be honest. It worked, good job. Thank you. So this guy's a nickname just to give you a little hint to what he's all about. Okay, his name was Tony Chop Chop. Oh, the Cape Cod Casanova. Oh.

And the Cape Cod Vampire. I hate all of those except Tony Chop. Tony Chop. Tony Chop. Tony Chop. Is one of the worst names for a serial killer because it's simultaneously horrifying and hilarious. Yes.

And it also sounds like something you would name like a mobster character and like a parody. Oh, a mobster movie. Like, oh, it's Tony Chop Chop. Like, it's. I just want to say like, Reyn Chop. Reyn Chop. Reyn Chop Chop.

So his name is Antony Costa. Okay. He goes by Tony. Yes. Yeah, we're not. Yes. Yes, he does. I'm like, I got that.

I don't know what Tony Chop Chop. Tony Chop Chop goes by Tony. He was born August 2nd, 1944 in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Hey, yo. It was real weird reading this book because it's like everywhere we know. And that is weird. Like they talk about like the Harvard Co-op bookstore

at one point where they bought something. We've been in, and I was like, that's where I got my books. Yeah. I guess like that's weird. Have it square. Hyannis. It's like, oh, that's where I visited my grandparents.

Oh, that's sweet that you have that memory. That's stoned. Remember the Thanksgiving that I went to a club the night before and my phone got stolen when I was a sophomore in high school? Yeah, that's ashes memory of hi Annus. That was a hi Annus. So I was like, oh, I visited my lovely grandparents.

I visited an underage club. Yeah, and then gotten a lot of trouble. All the trouble. Didn't work out for her. I had T9 for a long time. That's right, she did. It was my iPhone got stolen. Anyways, this is about chop chop. Yeah. So he was bored to Cecilia and Antony Costa. Okay. His father actually died when he was really young. Basically before he even knew who he was, he was like an infant. Huh he died in World War II, and he died heroically. Okay. He saved a fellow soldier who fell overboard.

Wow. And when he saved the soldier, he got him back on the boat. He actually hit his head on coral and drowned. Oh no. Isn't that sad? Also, I bet he was like really disappointed in his legacy. Right? Like, that's not awesome. No. But this came out of that.

It's like this hero. Yeah. That's what happens. Well, Tony was very spoiled. He was an only child for a long time. He got whatever he wanted. He wasn't really told no. Not like it wasn't like this terrible thing. It's not like he was this like total shit of a child. It was just like he was definitely an only child. Yeah, that's like setting you up for a little bit of not-sexless. Yeah. And by all accounts, his parents, you know, his mother was a good mother. He had a happy, you know, home life. There was really nothing to point it into like, oh, there's the trauma. Right. Because he also didn't know his father. So it's not like he lost him, but when he

knew him really well. It's not like a super traumatic situation. Of course, like never knowing your father is trauma-all in itself. Sure. A lot of people have gone through that and don't kill people, so. Not as a excuse. Not an excuse. So he was also, he was pretty smart.

He was good in school. He wasn't like, above intelligence, as we'll learn later, when he goes through psychiatric exams, that he's very average intelligence. Same, nothing to write home about, but he's definitely not dumb. Cool. But he loves to have an air of intelligence about him.

He has that whole, like, I'm smarter than everyone in the room, but the problem with him is he's not. So, you can, nothing fall back on. Yeah, it only works when you actually are smarter than everyone else in the room. It doesn't work when you're not. We all know somebody that thinks that and they're not. And I know that you and I are thinking

of these oxymperson right now. 100%. Yeah. Yeah, we definitely are. And it's no good. No. It's no good. Mm.

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These haunting accounts sound like Hollywood movies, but I assure you this is actually happening. Follow this is actually happening wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wundery app. He was a very devout Catholic because his parents were. This whole family was. And it was a church every Sunday. He was until about 12 when just on his own, through his own research, he was like, I'm not really buying it anymore. And he said he believed in God.

He believed in Christ. but he was like, I just didn't believe in what they were telling me in the Bible. He was like, I didn't take it literally anymore. I didn't take it as he's the savior. He just believed what he believed. Sure. And then you're like, yeah, get it.

I love that for you. His mother did eventually remarry to a man named Joseph Bonaviri. He was a stone mason who was apparently described as a jolly man. Oh. And he was a hard worker. He provided for their family. I guess he was a very good stepfather.

See, this is where I thought we were gonna be like, like we could, we're not taking the turn. We're not doing it. They ended up having another son together, so he has a half brother. Okay. Who is only 22 months younger than him? So, he, she remarried like right away. Okay, yeah. another son together so he has a half brother who is only 22 months younger than him.

So she remarried like right away. Okay, yeah. So she remarried like when he was a baby. Right. And they got the, I guess the half brother in him in the beginning did not get along because I think they just like, yeah, I don't know. It's just like I, from his point of view, his mom favored the other one, but I think that might just be his point of view. Well, and I also think like he probably didn't feel like he belonged to the stepdad in some sense. He's almost the outsider. Right, so exactly.

Exactly. Because it's like, this is the family and I'm the half brother. Right, almost. So I think that's what it was. Yeah. But later, I guess they became close. So they got through, I think it was like an adolescence.

They kind of like, yeah, but it heads and then they got close later. That's good. And his name was Vincent Bonaviri. Cool. Now, he comes back a little bit later, so that's all. Tony and Vince. Now, his mother and stepfather did divorce in 1962 and they moved from Somerville to

P-town to Robinson. Oh, what a move. I know. That's a wild move. a move, that's a wild move. I know, it's a crazy move. When he was younger, I guess, during like adolescence, it was said that he was not kind to small animals. There is what we can point to. And he was very weird with girls in the neighborhood.

Okay, did you dig me? Yeah, so, nothing was truly alarming, I guess, until he was 16. Okay. When he turned 16 in November of 1961, this was before he had moved to Provincetown. This was in the Somerville apartment. He broke into the Somerville apartment

of a 14 year old girl named Donna Welch at 4am. Oh, he had known Donna. They were like neighborhood, you know, like house, house, as you will. At one point, he had tied her up for a game before this and like gotten trouble for it. What game? He was like, oh, yeah, we're playing a game and she was fine with it. And I guess she was like, yeah, okay, like we were kind of playing a game. Uh-huh. Well, at 4amm. in November when he broke into her apartment he just stood over her bed, no watching her sleep, nay nay, and then he bent down to do something and she woke up and

started screaming. Oh she was like what the fuck? Yeah. He got scared and ran out of the apartment. You would think this would scare him enough to like maybe stay away from her? It would scare me, but no it did not. Three fucking days later, he broke into the same apartment to try to get the same teenage girl again. What? Yeah. And he tried to drag her down the fucking stairs.

Okay, so clearly it's like what the fuck is he gonna do to her? But neighbors heard the commotion and saved her and held his ass down and called police. And then she got a restraining order? Yeah. So he got in trouble for that. Damn. And he ended up, he served a one year suspended sentence

for it with three years probation. So nothing. And this is when he was sent, they were like, you're going to P-town to like, you got it, I think he ended up living with like, out there family for a little while, but the mom moved to P-town to like, you got it, I think he ended up living with like, out there family for a little while, but the mom moved to P-town as well. Okay.

And what's crazy about this is later, they bring this up to him once he's arrested for later crimes. And he's like, oh yeah, you have the wrong idea about that. And he was like, she had said, I was like, she had, you know, she had acted strange to me. So I wanted to talk to her about it. And me. So I wanted to talk to her about it.

And so I broke in there to talk to her about it. What? And for him. And then the way that, like, the way that he tells it is, like, he bent down and she woke up and was excited to see him. And then asked him to, like, come into bed with her. And he was like, no, no, we need to talk. And then she started screaming.

And then he just dragged her down the stairs. And then he said, three days later, I came in because I wanted to talk to her again and she wouldn't talk to me. So I grabbed her by the arm and started dragging her down the stairs to talk to her. Down stairs. Yeah.

I can hear better when we're on the ground level. And when you want to talk to someone, especially like you're a male and definitely, when you want to talk to a female, definitely drag her down the stairs. That's what you do. That's how all my conversations with males have started. So it's like, okay, tone-tone. Also, where were her parents? Yeah, I guess she's like 16. She was 14. 14, yeah. I'm assuming that when she was dragged down the stairs, that

I think he broke in when they weren't home. Damn. But yeah. Now, during high school, which all of this went down, so he got sent to P-town, he's got to live there now, they want to get out of there. Imagine knowing this could have been high school. Right? In high school, which all of this went down, so he got sent to P-town, he's got to live there now, they want to get out of there. Imagine knowing this could have been high school, right? In high school, he was a member of the future teachers of America. No, I don't want you to teach me anything. Isn't that crazy? Guys, we're gonna have a seminar

and how to drag people down the stairs today. It's insane. What? And he finished his high school experience in P-town. He started in Somerville, but he moved to P-town. Okay. He never really fit in well. Like he was considered kind of like weird.

Not like, not like super. It wasn't like one of those where like he was bullied. People probably just talked to him. Got a weird vibe from him. I think, yeah, I think it's because, and it's that whole thing where he had that air of like I'm smarter than everybody. So I think people were just put off by it.

Yeah. They were like he just seems like kind of a dick. Yeah. Because he just seems like he thinks he's smarter and he's not. Well, you don't want to have a conversation with anyone. Even if somebody is like that, you don't want to have a conversation with them because you're just like, okay, like exactly. That's the whole like, we're not going to get anywhere. Exactly.

What I was just going to say. I'm not going to convince you of anything. We're not going to have an lively debate. You're just going to shut me down. Exactly. So he developed a hobby, which was taxidermy. And taxidermy is a perfectly normal hobby to have. Sure.

Like taxidermy is fine. Yeah. A lot of people have it in their house, like all that, like that's very normal. But when you put it in conjunction with what happens later, you're like, uh, yeah, I feel like it was practice. And it wasn't necessarily taxidermy. Cause it's like he was picking up roadkill, which often taxidermists will do. And Kesha. Yeah, and feel like it was practice. And it wasn't necessarily taxidermists. Because it's like he was picking up road kill,

which often taxidermists will do. And Kesha. And Kesha. There you go. There's the correlation. There's ashes addition to this. And Kesha. And Kesha.

In case anybody can't tell our voices apart, you now know. Like who's who? Oh, if you don't know, now you know. No, you know. But the problem arose was that cats in the area were starting to go missing. See, I don't want to talk about that though.

And you know, that's not what you should do as a taxidermist. You should kill animals to taxidermy, though, you should take them when they're already dead. Correct. Yeah. So just that's my message for you. Now, in April 1963, at 18 years old, he married a 14-year-old girl. How

though? Her name was Avis. That's a cool name. I guess she was pregnant and so they were like, we should get married with his child? Yeah, with his child. Okay. And I guess at first they had tried to get permission because they needed permission to marry because she's 14. Exactly. And her mom was like, no. And so she was like, so we made it a point to get pregnant so that she would have to. Oh, so they planned this. And that's a good reason to get pregnant.

Interesting. Yeah. So they ended up having three children together, two boys and a girl. Wow. He was kind of disappointed in the first two kids being boys. That's weird. Yeah. And he was psyched about his daughter, I guess.

See, usually that doesn't happen. Yeah, apparently she was, he was all about her. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way.

In a good way. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way this all goes down, she was still very young, like a baby. So I don't know if things would have changed later. Had he been given the opportunity to do something monstrous?

Yeah. But he kind of was out of their life at that point a little bit. So, um, he was working as a carpenter, like a handyman in P-P town. He would like paint shit and like, you know, he had a ton of tools that he would use, he could fix anything, whatever. He also grew pot and had his own garden filled with it. That's great. This garden, I guess, this garden was behind the Pine Grove Cemetery in Truro.

I don't know exactly where the mist is. Yeah, I want to know where it is now because after hearing this, I'm like, well shit. Because Truro is Before P-town right I think I think after I think Churro might be even further than P-town. I'm pretty sure it's true I was the furthest point in the cape. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's further. Yeah Not that matters literally But we're just trying to figure it out

He so he had his whole little garden. It was in like this like like little, there was a clearing and then this little wooded area behind the cemetery. Okay. So it was very out of the way. No one would find it. It was down like a dirt road past the cemetery because that's pretty brief or back then. Like you think about now, obviously pot is legal,

but back then you could get in a lot of trouble. Well, that's why he put it here. Right. Because it was a perfect place. No one was looking for pot back there. Right. Teens loved this. Duh.

And they knew he was the guy to hang out with. He called it his garden. He would often like get girls to come back there. And it was always team girls, because he was very into younger girls. Yeah. This just became a thing. That's why when you said he had a daughter,

I was like, oh, I don't like that. Well, that's the thing. It's like so by, again, by all accounts, nothing happened. But the daughter was a baby at the time. So I'm willing to bet that wouldn't change. Like as she got older. That's just me, that's what I think. Well, when you, I mean, you've studied this case in an outlet,

this point seems like he, he definitely has a thing about degrading women, but he also wants to come off as being very like hippie, free love. Like I love all women. I love women. I respect everybody, but like that's just bullshit. Right. He's actually a fucking monster.

So yeah, that's what you have to look forward to. So yeah, he would bring teen girls back there. And there was a number of teen girls that came forward after this. And we're like, oh yeah, I went back there. Or some that were like, oh, I said no to going back there. And I'm really glad I did. Oh, yikes.

Yeah. So in June 1966, his marriage is starting to suffer. Probably because all these teen girls come to the garden. Exactly. And the fact that she was 14. Yeah. And literally a child. Right.

That could be the fact that like she is not even a real like human being. It's like the Dorothy Stratton case. It's like, oh, I grew up and I realized like, I'm a adult and like, I'm a child. I evolved as's like the Dorothy Stratton case. It's like, oh, I grew up and I realized I'm a adult and I've matured. I evolved as a human because I was literally a child. And now you're not what I want.

Like, hello, me at 14, the most, I can't, I don't even know that person. You don't know that person? Yeah, you really don't know that? I don't even, who is that bitch? Who is that bitch? Where are her eyebrows? That's honestly, I was saying that basically

through high school. I look at pictures of me through high school and I'm like, where are your eyebrows? I used to shave, like, not all of them off, but I would like shave them down so that they were just a line. I just didn't drown mine in and I'm so pale that like they disappeared.

Well, you weren't supposed to drop them in with that. I look at pictures and I'm like, they're gone. They're not there. No where to be found. Yeah. So, you know, weirdly enough their marriage started suffering. He said, at one point, he said he was driving to California and was going to drive two teen girls to Pennsylvania on the way there and he was like, deal with it, Avis.

And Avis was like, okay. She was like, so hey, like I'd And Avis was like, okay. She was like, so hey, I'd like a divorce. Yeah, cool, cool. The two girls were Bonnie Williams and Diane Fedorov. They were never seen or heard from again. Awesome. Yeah, except not at all. No, not at all.

He was questioned about this and he said he dropped them off in Hayward, California, and that was it. He never saw them again. Wow. Which he tends to do a lot. He's like, yeah, I just dropped them off. I never saw them again. Next, and they tends to do a lot. He's like, yeah, I just dropped him off. I never saw him again.

Next. And they're like, nope. Like you get no. You were the last person with them. That's exactly how that works, sir. So he returned to Massachusetts like a few days after questioning for that. By January 1968, the marriage has completely fallen apart

because what they would do was like separate, come back together, separate, come back together. He moved to San Francisco for a while and moved in with a girlfriend of his because he had girlfriends all throughout their marriage, named Barbara Spalding. A few months of knowing it was basically a few, they'd only known each other for like a couple of months. Yeah. And they were already living together. of months. Yeah. And they were already living together. And she dropped her child off to be watched by her parents at one point. Oh no. And no one ever saw her again. Oh no. The same day she went missing, he weirdly went back to Massachusetts. Oh that's such a weird coincidence. Yeah so weird. It's obviously believed that he murdered her but she has never been found. Oh no. Yeah. And there's a few cases of that where you're like, he definitely did that.

Oh, yeah. But you can't prove it. Right. And we'll find out why too. So, May 1968, again, he's been working as a handyman, the carpenter, and now he's working for a handyman for a doctor's office in P-town. Okay. There was a young girl working as a receptionist of the office. Oh, he took a liking to her. He did.

He started trying to flirt with her and the receptionist was like, no, thank you. Like not into it at all. Oh, I am under a yes, she was like, no, and so he was like, he asked the doctor like, who's the young girl at the reception desk? And he was like, that's my daughter. So you can and he was like, so you can fuck off and leave her alone. Oh my god. And the doctor was like, yeah, no. Well, mysteriously, $5,000 worth of medical equipment and drugs were then stolen from that office shortly after he told him to fuck off and don't touch his daughter. That is the craziest. I know. And it's even crazier that later when he's in custody.

He was like, oh, yeah, I did that. Yes. So no one made it to it. No way, Tony. One week later, 18 year old Sydney, Monzen was said to be living with Tony in deadham. This comes back later. So remember her name, Sydney, Monzen, Sydney, Monzen. She left one day from her home and was never seen again. She wasn't reported missing for three weeks because they assumed she just took off. Oh, no, because hippies. August 1968, finally him

and Avis divorced officially and he moved in with his new girlfriend Susan Perry. Okay. Now one week later on Labor Day, she goes missing. Why is nobody like, hey, well that guy seems to have a lot of missing bays. Weird, it was like young girl bays. Right, going missing. Young girl bays. He was questioned. And she's, and he was like, oh, she went to Mexico with friends. Oh, okay, you know, totally. Yeah.

Interesting that she's like out of the whole place. She's just gone. Out of the whole place. Out of the whole place. Out of the country. She's just out of the whole place. He was arrested for driving without a license and then held before failure to pay child support. Oh, come on, dude. Yeah. And he was held

until November 8th. He's a dick. He like doesn't give a shit about his kids. Great a ask guy. Yeah. He sees them as like a burden. Of course. He's this whole thing of like he loves his daughter. Like, yeah, he likes her when she's around, but like he doesn't care about them. He probably had a side out of mine. Exactly. Um, right away, now he's been using drugs like on and off. Well, he's a hippie. And he becomes, but he becomes a known drug user. Like he becomes like using, he's using pills.

He's very into pod obviously, but like he's starting to get into other stuff. Harnership. A lot of pills. He was very much into like sedatives and like tranquilizers and like all this shit. That will fuk you up. Yeah. So now he starts dating this girl named Christine Galant.

And this was on November 23rd. Okay. Or excuse me. And on November 23rd, she ends up now. Now remember, this is, he was let out November 8th for this failure to play a child support. By November 23rd, his girlfriend Christine Galant was found dead in her NYC apartment. She was in a bathtub and it was ruled that it was a drowning slash overdose.

Interesting. Now this comes back later as well, so remember her. But they said that there was like, they her. But they said that there was, they said that multiple reports said that there was injuries to her chest as well. Now, January 24th, 1969, this is when shit really goes down. It was a Friday.

Two women named Patricia Walsh and Marion Waisaki. They were both one to Rhode Island College. Patricia was a second grade teacher. She had a strict Catholic upbringing, very close to her family. Marianne was also very close to her family. She was a math major at Rhode Island College. She tutored kids who couldn't like afford tutoring.

Oh, yeah. She all around great people. She wanted to be a teacher as well. They both had like on and off boyfriends that were like very close to them. They decided to go to Cape Cod for a weekend get away. And it was in the off season in January. They were like we just want to like go for a couple days. Yeah. So they rented a room in a guest house on Standish Street owned by Mrs Patricia Morton and this was in Provincetown. Now Tony Costa was also renting a room there. Oh goody. Yeah. Now he immediately established himself

with them there. He helped them get their bags. He offered them some pot, like just immediately. Patricia Morton said like they started hanging out immediately. Almost the entire time they started, they hung out together. Patricia's boyfriend and parents had not heard from her. And they were like, this is strange. And when she hadn't shown up for school on Monday morning, this was not like her.

Right. And they were only supposed to be gone for a couple of days. Yeah, this was like a weekend thing. Yeah. Now, when her father spoke with Mary Ann's mother, she told him that Mary Ann had told her of the trip and said if they were a day late, not to worry too much because they would be meeting up with a boy she had liked

and they were dropping him off somewhere. Okay. So she was like, she told me it might be a day, but she told me a day. Yeah, I'll tell you just as much. Yeah, I'll tell you just as much. And again, the fact that they hadn't heard from them was like, this is weird.

Right. Like, yeah, sure, she told us about the day, but she would have told us again. Now, they disappear the same day that Tony leaves that rooming house. That is wild. Yeah. Also, can I just ask, is Tony like good looking?

Like, it doesn't make sense. Yes. Tony is good looking. He's definitely like hippie good looking. Okay. When he was younger, he's actually like a very good looking guy. Sure. I'm sure his lifestyle affected him over the years.

Like when he got together with Avis and like, then he started like, you know, he grew his hair kind of longer and he got a mustache and glasses that didn't really, not if it really worked for him, but I get why. He made sense. He made sense. All the time, he was definitely like, ooh, that guy. Yeah.

So Patricia's father spoke with the Massachusetts state police, the stateies. They searched accident records because they were like, maybe something happened on the way home We don't even know about it. They could be at a ditch somewhere. Yeah, anything happened. They couldn't find any issues that occurred with their car Which was a light blue 68 VW bug. Yes And this was so this becomes a very big thing VW bug. Okay. Okay. They didn't find any accidents that had to do with a bug

Nothing like that, nothing in the area that they would be. So the next day, the Patricia's father filed a missing persons report. It described Patricia as five foot nine, 138 pounds, dark complexion, dark hair, past her shoulders, and hazel eyes. Okay. They were very pretty. I was going to say she sounds pretty.

Yeah. And all points, bulletin was put out in P town for the girls. Everyone was looking. Now police spoke with Russell Norton, who was the boy that they had said they were gonna be dropping off somewhere on the way. And he was like, oh yeah, we had that plan. And he said he was in P town and stayed with another friend.

But he was like, we were gonna be meeting up the next morning and they were gonna drive me. But they didn't, they didn't meet me. He was like, I was literally like waiting in the area. I was asking people. And he said on Sunday, he left and returned home to Provincetown and he said, he called Mary Ann's house. And he said her mother said she hadn't heard

from her since Friday. Oh no. So he was like, something's weird. So even he was like, yeah, I don't know. Now, February 2nd, a man named Carl Benson, was driving with his two children to get the paper early in their morning. I love driving to get the paper.

I know, right? Just like early in the morning, just driving to get the paper. And was driving in the dirt road behind the Pine Grove cemetery, because it like connected to another road. Okay. People didn't often use it,

but like once in a while, people use it as like a cut through. I was gonna say like if you gonna say, you know a shortcut. And he was like a local townie, so he probably knew. And he noticed up in a clearing, kind of near the woods of VW Bug. Uh-oh. And he was concerned because it was really out of place,

like really strange. So he stopped and he said he was gonna get out of the car and just check to see if the person was okay. He didn't see anybody, but he was like, I just wanted to make sure. But he said he stepped out of the car and just check to see if the person was okay. He didn't see anybody, but he was like, I just wanted to make sure. But he said he stepped out of the car and he said immediately he got this sick feeling. He was like, it just like washed over me. He said something was wrong, something's ominous. Something told me don't go towards that car.

And he said he swore he heard someone running up the hill in the woods. Oh shit. And he felt like he was being watched. Oh, I don't like that. So he jumped back in the car and hauled us out of there smart. This should be a movie. This would make a movie. This would make a crazy good movie.

He notified police and actually returned to the scene with police chief Harold Barrio. They found the car and it had a note under the wiper blade that Carl said wasn't there before. He was like, I did not see that. So you know, he saw him leave and down there to cover his tracks. Because he was like, they're probably going to come back. No, what did it say? It said engine trouble will return. And someone else, a few other people called after this, the police and were like, oh, I spotted this VW bug up in this clearing. So they must have been passing through to him. We're like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. Now police found out. So they're like, we're going to bug up in this clearing. So they must have been passing through too. We're like, what the fuck is that?

Yeah. Now police found out, so they're like, we're gonna hold this in our pocket. We're gonna leave it here for now. Cause especially at that time, they're not just gonna like take the car. They're no. It's hippies.

They're like, somebody will come back for it. Yeah. Police found out where the girls had stayed in P town. Because again, now it's like a big search for these girls. And they called Patricia Morton, the lady who owned the rooming house they stayed at to ask more about it. She said they were indeed there and had paid $24

for two nights. Oh my God, can you find an imagine? I know. You know what you have to pay in P-town now? Ooh, I know. Me and any had an anniversary there either year or two ago and it was so expensive. Oh, it is, it's crazy expensive. And that's where my parents love to have their

anniversaries too. Yes. I love that they go there. I know I copied them. I copied them. So she said they were there, they paid the money for two nights and she said they were hanging around with a man named Tony Costa. And Tony Costa had actually left a note on their door, the morning that they went missing, asking for a ride. Okay. She had not seen him in a few days either. So she was like, he's gone too, but he didn't like check out.

So she's like, this is weird. Now, Sergeant James Mead's was the one who actually spoke to Patricia Morton, and he was like, oh, Tony Costa, I know that name. And he was like, yeah, he spent time in jail for failing to pay his child support. He spent time in barnstable house of corrections. And during this whole thing, he had recruited Tony

as a drug informant for a small period of time to shorten his jail time. Oh, wow. That's how he got out in a small span of time. We got a rat. Exactly. So he's like, oh, like things are getting weird here. So he called Tony's mom.

And she said she hadn't heard from him, but she would contact the police if she did. Turns out that Tony's mom was definitely scared of him when he was over there. Oh, and didn't like him hang around. Like she was not into it, but she would also like try to help him. Sweetie, I know.

That's hard. It's so hard. And that's like her baby. Yeah. That's her first baby. That's her first baby. Now, February 7th, Marianne's mother filed a missing person's report.

The reason she waited a few days was because she actually thought the missing person's report Patricia's father had filed would cover Marianne as well. Oh. So she had no idea that that didn't care to cover it. Right. I would assume that too. I would too. Because they were together. Yeah. She described Marianne as 23 years old, brown hair, blue eyes, light skinned, five foot eight and 135 pounds. Now Patricia Morton suddenly remember like thinks about this more because she's like, what the fuck is going

on in my rooming house? Like what happened here? Yeah. So she all of a sudden is like, I got to talk to the police again. So she calls police because she's like, what the fuck is going on in my rooming house? Like, what happened here? Yeah. So she all of a sudden is like, I gotta talk to the police again. So she calls police and she was like, you know what, I started thinking after I talk to you, I'm really concerned and she said, I would really like to take a peek into Tony's room so she went up there and she said she,

because he just left so she was like, I can go in that room. I was gonna say this is my fucking place. Yeah, and she found a torn up letter in the trash and she was like, I can go in that room. I was gonna say this is my fucking place. And she found a torn up letter in the trash. And she was like, I don't know if you guys just want this, because it's just something. So they show up and they piece it together. And it says, greetings people.

I've been sitting here stoned on hash and downs, drawing plans for my houseboat for the summer. I really intend to build it soon. I wanna share it with one or two people. It will be a complete home on the water. I will show you the plans as soon as I complete them. Three chicks have been staying here, and they're super nice, nice, super groovy head people. Oh my god, yes. But Christine is still on my mind. Christine Galaunt.

Okay. I'm making a collage for you all. We'll present it to you soon. I may come up to Hianna's for a couple of days. Okay, Ron, until then, go and peace always, Anthony of Rome. And there was a drawing of a hypodermic needle dripping and it said, there is no hope without dope. Wow.

He's like a parody of a hippie. He is. He's like a satirical hippie. You know who I'm picturing? And I can't think of his name, so I almost didn't say it, because people are gonna be like really ash, but the, oh, is it, it starts with an L, the guy from that 70 show.

Oh, you're thinking of, it's not Lenny, is it? No, it's a shit. We'll think of it. Yeah, it's gonna pop in my head. You know what, I'll Google it. Yeah, he really is. He's literally a parody of that guy of a hippie.

Like he's what SNL would show you a hippie is. Yeah. So the letter was addressed to Georgia Pinesis who lived in Hiannes. And again, this will all come back later. So it's funny that he mentions Christine, the three chicks being groovy. Don't know who those three chicks are.

I wonder if it was just those two girls and he would just like, he's so fucked up that he's like, maybe he thinks there's another one. Who knows? He saw two of one. Leo. Oh, there you go. Leo, there you go. That is literally him. And it's Tommy Chung. There you go.

So she said the thing was that Tony was an ideal tenant and she actually liked him. She was like, he's very kind and like very polite. Okay. He has good manners, very neat. Like, there was really nothing that I was concerned about. Yeah. And everybody who knew him, like, from afar said that. They were like, he came off very like manners and quiet.

He came off very manners. He came off very manners. You know, people do very like lots of manners thrown at you. Very polite. Please, thank you. Boom, boom. He's just launching with like- That manners thrown at you. Very polite. Please, thank you. Boom, boom. He's just launching with like- That's a nice day.

With a t-shirt gun. He just throws a please at you. But he just- What the fuck? Guys, okay, I'm sorry. This is just weird. But we have the today show-on in the background, and there's like a very, it's like family portrait segment

and it's real weird. Yeah, there was just a weird photo of it. So, and I'm so sorry. And the best stuff that came up, like shaving his legs. Yeah, I'm not really sure. So that's fun. I do like this. So yes.

So again, he came up very nice, very polite. Nobody really had anything, you know, people who didn't know him well didn't have a lot of bad things to say about him. People who got to know him were like, yeah, he could be a dick. Yeah, he was a jack. And everyone said he definitely had that air of superiority. That's for sure.

He's arrogant. He's definitely arrogant. So the officers ran into the chief burial, like on the way back to the station from the rooming house, and they asked him if he had seen the VW bug matching the description of Patricia and Maryans. And he was like, oh shit, I have. Like, actually. Why would you not check and see at least who it's registered to?

Well, that's the problem. So one, they didn't check to see who it was registered to and the problem here was that providence, providence police had heard this missing persons report at the end of January and they never shared it with Truro. Or Providence town police heard it. No, Providence, because that's where they were from. Oh, oh, okay. Remember they went to like Rhode Island College.

Gotcha, gotcha. So Providence police had never shared this missing person's report with the police in Truro. So they had no idea that they were supposed to be looking for this VW bug. Wow. So they had seen it. So that's just bad police work.

That's just bad police work all around. Yeah, on both parts. Failures. So they went to the spot. They were like, he was like, oh shit, let me take you to the place where this VW bug was. It's gone. It's gone.

New it. So they looked it up finally, and it matches Patricia and Maryanne's registration. Yeah, maybe you should have just looked it up. They found it. Right. Because then you could have taken that in forever. Exactly. maybe you should just look down what they found it. Right. Because then you could have taken that in for evidence. Exactly.

So, my God, I could even be a police person. I could. A police person. So they started searching in the woods nearby where it was found like around the area. And in the woods, they found Patricia's registration. Oh, no. They also found a sales slip and a proof of insurance

ripped up and scattered around. Ooh, that's freaky. No good. So shortly after this, now a huge search party went out around the area that the VW bug was seen, because now they're like, oh no, like this is not good. Like finding all the ripped up shit, the fact that it's gone now. That's weird. The weird shit of like hearing someone in the distance when he first found it. It's just no one.

There's a note when there wasn't. And I guess there was about 75 people that came out to search. Around 1130, part of the rescue squad noticed an olive green cloth poking out of a weird depression in the earth. Oh. Now, they pulled it out and it was an army duffel bag. Okay. And they were like, okay, what the fuck?

And it was like soaked in blood. And it smelled terrible. Oh, smelled like something was rotting. So they dug a bit, and they found a bone, which they then pulled free, and it had a human foot attached to it. Oh! Now they called in Dr. Daniel Hybert. He was a 79 year old medical examiner. Fuck yeah. Which it shows. Oh. Like, your old, because at first I was like, wow, get it.

Dr. Hybert. And then I was like, retire. You should retire. Like, it's, like that's really cool that you're trying to do this. You're like, it's the age for me. So, yeah.

So he brings, he comes in. And he looks at it and he's like, yup, that's a human foot. Like good job everybody. Awesome. Really glad you brought me a near hippie. So they keep digging and they find a leg and two arms. And then they find a plastic bag.

And these are all detached. All detached. They find a plastic bag with a severed head in it. Oh, see, it's always when you find a bag after finding bones that that's the head. The bag is never going to be a good thing. It's always the head. It's never just going to be like a bag of like really good like pumpkin chocolate chip cookies.

That was ridiculously specific. Ridiculously. I really want some pumpkin chocolate chip cookies. No, it is. But it's never going to be that. It's going to be a head or a torso. Yeah. And it's just you don't want that. No, I don't want that. You don gonna be that. It's gonna be a severed head or a torso, yeah. And it's just, you don't want that.

You know, I don't want that, you don't want that. We know what you want. We don't want that. So I want pumpkin chocolate chip. I'm gonna make some. I have the stuff to make some, I'm gonna make some. Awesome. So according to in his garden,

the way that they described this face was, quote, the face was shrunken, the skin soft as melting candle wax. That's awful. Blue discoloration marked a swollen cheek and a collapsed chin, as if it had been repeatedly struck by blows, which had also smashed the nose nearly flat. The mouth gaped, fixed in unvoiced protest, revealing four missing upper teeth. Huh! Sunk in their orbits, the eyes were vacant, colorless, giving the face the

empty stare of a ruined doll. Can you imagine finding that? Wow, like that will stay with you for quite some. That would be a lot. I don't know, I have to say. I don't know how investigators and like detectives and all kinds of law enforcement sleep after seeing that. Because remember how we said the Morris murders we saw, was it Marians, body, or the crime scene? Oh, Leslie and Danny.

Leslie and Danny, yeah. I will see her sometimes as I'm falling asleep. like have to like, like, I wake up again. Like it, it rents room in your head. Yeah, it lives there right free. Yeah, it really does. Like and it's all of a sudden it'll just like pop up and you're like, like, I'll wake up at 3 a.m. and just be like, oh boom, in my face.

Yeah, just like all of a sudden it's like, get out of here. I don't know how you do that day after day. It's honestly one, that's why a lot of people get upset with like, law enforcement and people that deal with like, the dead and all that, like, making like, dark jokes or like, sick humor and it's like, you have to get through it somehow. That like goes up my ass sideways when people will be like, shitty about that because I'm like, you do it. Yeah, exactly.

You do it. Like, see how you need to cope with it. It's like, gallows humor is a way of coping. It's a coping mechanism. Exactly. Honestly, it's necessary. Yeah, it's necessary. Or it's going to turn dark real fast.

And you can't let it turn dark. It will envelop you. It will envelop you. It will envelop you. And it will also compromise how you are able to handle a situation. And to function. And to be able to see it as a surface situation

and not bring your emotions into it. And disconnect. Exactly. And that's the way most people disconnect and it's like, let them do it. You just have to. It's effective. Sorry, I went off on a tangent there,

but I just had to say that. Well, a lot of the investigators in this case actually said in the book, because the guy who wrote the book, Leo DeMore, I think his name is, he did tons, I highly suggest reading this book because it's super long, super detailed, so much as in it that I'm not even going to talk about. I want to read this. I'm really interested in this case.

I mean, he did research for years about this case. He interviewed everyone involved. Yeah. He knew everything about it. I mean, it's so thorough. And he said most of the investigators were saying that they would wake up in the middle of the night to like horrible nightmares of these bodies that they were finding. I believe it. So it really affects them. They just try to push through it. Because when you see something like that, you're just imagining what this

person went through in the last hours. Exactly. And a lot of them were saying like they had like kids, they had daughters. You were so silly. And they were like immediately I was like, that's someone's daughter. Yeah. Like that's all you can think of. That's somebody's baby. Right. That was someone's baby. Right.

That sucks. So this 79 year old medical examiner said the victim was about 50 to 60 years old. Oh. And they were like, oh, OK. So they found the hips and the backside and both had been flayed of skin. Oh.

Yeah. The torso was wrapped in a white sheet. And inside of the, so the chest cavity had been flayed of skin. Oh, yeah. The torso was wrapped in a white sheet, and inside of the, so the chest cavity had been split open. Oh, yeah. And the skin was like flayed back. Okay. Which is something we're gonna see a lot.

Okay. It's a very strange thing. That is. And somebody, they had like stuffed something in the chest. And what they had found was a pair of underwear with Thursday on them, like day of the week underwear. That is bizarre.

And there were multiple stabilins to the chest. Yeah. The medical examiner said it was likely an ax used to dismember the body into eight distinct pieces. Wow. When the autopsy was done by someone else, Dr. George Katzis, he determined that the body was not a 50 to 60-year-old woman, but was one between 17 and 19.

Well, they have a head. Well, he was like, so I guess what the original medical examiner thought was she's missing for upper teeth, that's age. And they also, the head was not in good condition. It's not like this was a 19 year old's like vivacious head. It was like part of her head was literally sunken in and like crushed. It was discolored. It was swollen in parts. So I can understand why they wanted to be like,

that's a young teenager. They were probably like, what the fuck? Right. And then she had no upper teeth. It like four upper teeth, I think she is. So you're a dead child or something? Yeah, something's crazy. But what they said was the missing teeth were clearly knocked out forcibly, which is

even scary. So it's like, okay, we need to put this into retirement. A little bit. So she was tiny. She was only five feet tall, like 105 pounds. And the fact that she suffered that kind of beating at that, she's so like a small person. See, I thought that this was one of the two girls. No.

And it's not. Yeah, exactly. Because the other girls, remember, they're missing prison supports. So they were around 135 pounds. Right. They were tall, like both of them. I was going to say like, up or down.

Yeah, 5, 8, 5, 9. So this is not one of them. OK. So they said she suffered an unreal amount of violence to her body. And also, she was more decomposed than what we would find in Patricia Ramarian. That's why I was so confused.

So that's why they were like, wait a second, what's going on. Right. Now, like we said, her test was torn open. And her heart and lungs were missing. Her breasts were also missing, and her liver and upper abdominal organs were missing, and the diaphragm was slashed a bunch of times. And the rest of it, like her legs and stuff, were also slashed, they found. They were literally slashes everywhere.

Now the pelvis was emptied of ovaries, uterus, and intestines. Wow. The heart was found stuffed into her vagina, basically. Oh, yeah. Wow. Yep. She had a wedding band on. And they believe she had been buried for about six months or so. Oh, God. Now her hands were very decomposed. But to get fingerprints, they amputated them at like the second junction. And they injected them with hydral tissue builder, which is used by more tissues to like plump up skin. They did that, something similar, I don't know if it's that exact thing, but in the Brenda Sue Schaefer case. Exactly. Yeah, they do it often now. Yeah, that's really. That's really cool. They let it set, then they inked them and boom. They're prints.

Now, they spoke with the owner of the guest house. They stayed in again, Patricia Morton. And basically, they're just trying to find more about Tony because at this point they're like, what the fuck's going on? This is in the area the VW bug was found. So something's weird. And Tony's connected to those girls.

And he's being weird. And right now they're like, so who's this girl? And how is she connected to Tony to right now We have two missing girls. We have this girl that's been missing and now who knows who she is Right, and it fits the victim profile. It's just no good. No, so they want to talk to Patricia Martin again And be like you got to tell us more about these girls and about Tony So she said they left a note when they checked out the two girls But Tony just

left and took his keys, which is against the rules. Oh, you're supposed to leave your keys. She said Tony's mother had called asking for his hair dryer. And she was like, well, when he brings back my keys, he can have his belongings. And I guess he had left a few other things and she was like, no, I'm going to hold these until I get my keys. Yeah, yeah, obviously. So when they searched the room again, because they went back with her and searched his room again, and it was cleared out, but then they found a case with a hairdryer in it.

When they opened it up, they found out this was Mary Ann's hairdryer. This was not his hairdryer. Okay. Among his belongings that Mrs. Morton had capped as collateral was a sweater that they also found out likely belong to Marianne. Oh, so now they're like, uh-oh. Now they get in touch with Tony finally. Finally they track him down. And he says, sure, like he's like, you know, I

I had them because I hung out with these girls and they had left it in my room. He was like, we hung out the whole time. They were planning to head back to L. He said they were planning to head out to L.A. to get an abortion. Oh. And he said they drove him to a construction site for work one morning. That's what he had asked them for the ride for. And he said they were off to Hianna's first and that was the last I saw them.

They dropped me off at that construction job because I asked them Yeah, they were going out as far as I know to LA to get an abortion. Okay, so That's shitty of him. Well, and that's they're like okay So they're like that's strange, but all right and just to be clear nothing I don't disagree with abortion I'm just saying like how shitty to say that that's what they were doing Well, that's it. It's not well, and it wasn't. And that's like a good point because later they determine, no, neither one of them were pregnant and neither one of them were looking to get an abortion.

I just wanted to be clear because I said shitty of him. No, shitty of him. There's a lot of shitty of him. Yeah. Now, they found out from Tony's friend that he was trying to call around to get a VW bug painted some exotic color. Ah, so now his friends are like, ugh, something weird has happened.

Also, listen, Tony, if you're so groovy and you're so handy, paint the thing. I think I bug yourself. If you're so goddamn groovy, Tony. Tony, if you're tripping balls on LSD, paint a car. Do it. Pro tip to car. Pro tip, if you're tripping balls on LSD,

go ahead and paint a car. You do it. You're aspping balls on LSD, go ahead and pay to car. You do it. You're as preferable. Yeah, don't paint somebody else's. So he's getting a lot of heat on him now. And so he called the police and said, you know what, I have information about that VW book. It's so crazy.

And he was like, it all talked to you. So they picked him up. He seemed very nervous and anxious. Because he's a murderer. But they tried to use the, you know, these parents need information about their daughter's Tony, like they're, they're so upset. They need something, just give us something. Because apparently he's supposed to

lead love to his daughter so much. You're a quote unquote father. Exactly. And they said he seemed like he was about to say something, like really let something out. But then, you know, he just brought it back. And he was like, okay, but he was like, I, I don't know a lot. I, I can't really help a whole lot. But he was like, I just wanted to, you know, he just brought it back and he was like, okay, but he was like, I don't know a lot. I can't really help a whole lot, but he was like, I just wanted to let you know that I bought the van from

Mary Ann in Patricia. And he said he bought the van for 900 bucks so that they could have cash to get Patricia and abortion and Montreal. But we're okay, so now she's not a Montreal. And also how are they getting there? And also his stories change about it. I've never seen a criminal change for their stories with such confidence in my life. Well, this isn't even a minor change. Oh, no. This is a completely different story.

And he will say it, I'm like, I didn't tell the truth there. Let me start over again. And just start another story and you're like, bro. Honestly, that makes it so confusing for the investigator. So I do wonder if part of that was purposeful. It was partially just to make it all confusing.

Because you said that they dropped you off, and now all of a sudden you bought the van. Exactly. So how the fuck were they getting out of there? And that's part of the thing. They keep asking him like, well, how are they gonna get to, and he was like, I don't know. And like, he just won't answer those things.

Yeah, that's exactly. So he said, he bought it for $900. They were going to get Patricia and abortion and Montreal. And like, he just won a lot of things. So they were like, you know, this is weird. Like you might, can you tell us more? So he was like, all right. Well, they said, they actually asked me if they could use the van for another week to like get their shit together. And then they would just leave it in the clearing

where it was found. And I would just pick it up. Oh, that's a really weird place to leave that. And the police were like, it's a really weird setup in general. Why the fuck wouldn't they just park it in front of the guest house where you guys all stayed? Like why in the woods?

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. And he was like, I don't know. Okay, weird. Also, I, I, I would just be like, because there's a lot of drugs in it. And they were also like, okay, so you paid $900 for this car. And then they were like, hey, can we keep it for another week? And you were like, sure.

And you just trusted that they were going to come back with it? Yeah, like, you don't know these girls. Like, you have no idea. Like, what? Who would do that? Right. Like, no one would do that. No. So after being pushed some more, he was like, sorry, that wasn't true.

I didn't tell the truth there. And he literally was like, sorry, that wasn't true. I didn't tell the truth there. And he literally was like, sorry, that was not true. I wish you could see a Linus facial expression the way that you closed your eyes first as funny. Sorry, that was not. That was not true. That was incorrect information I just gave you. So then he was like, all right.

So I actually met them last August. Okay. And he was like, I sold them drugs, which they didn't pay for. So you did not sell them. Didn't know it didn't sell. I just gave him drugs. But he was like, they didn't pay for. And he said, it was supposed to be like 700 bucks worth of drugs. Wow. Which I was like, wow, that's a lot of drugs. Especially back then. That's a lot. That's a whole like garage full of drugs back then. It should be said now, everyone in Patricia and Mary Ann's life were like, nope, they smoked pot every once in a while. They did not do hard drugs. We're talking about

teachers. They did literally did like Catholic school teachers. They just didn't. They were like everyone who knew them was like, sure, they smoked pot every once in a while. Everybody is the fucking 60s. They're like, no, like they did not buy drugs. They did not sell drugs. They did not inhale 700 dollars with the drugs. So he said he happened to see them again this time in P town when they came for their vacation.

Well, wait, you know what, sorry. Also, you're saying you're saying that they you sold them $700 worth of drugs that they did not pay for. And then you're saying they sold, you're you sold them the van or like bought it off of them and you think they're gonna come back with the $900 after they already owe you 700.

Exactly. So, no. Yeah. Well, and that's it. So now that he's totally negated that other story and now he's starting with, I met them last August. Sold them the drugs, didn't get paid for it, 700 bucks. So he said he happened to see them this time in P town when they came for their vacation,

just ran into them. No, totally. And he said, he took their car as payment. So he said, and he said he didn't take it. He told them like you need to give me your car as payment. And they were like, okay. Yeah, because everybody would do that. They were like, well, this car is worth more than that.

Like you need to give me some money for it. So he gave them 300 bucks to make up for the difference. Okay. So he was like, so I paid like, you know, it was worth a thousand. So he's like, I gave them the 300. And they were like, so I paid like, you know, it was worth a thousand. So he's like, I gave them the 300. And they were like, the cop was like, no sir. No sir.

No. They were like, that's a strange story that you just told us. Do you want to try again, sir? You were like, you should write a book, but also can we get to this first? They were literally like Tony Chop Chop, do you want to try that again? But they pressed and asked if he still,

they were like, okay, so you gave them $300, right? And he was like, you said that in the first story that you had to borrow $300 from your brother. So they were like, did you still borrow that $300 from your brother? Is that still true? Is that part true or no? And he was like, yup.

And then when they asked when, he said a week earlier. But they were like, but you just said that you earlier, but they were like, um, but you just said that you didn't know they were going to be in P town. You just ran into them. Right. So he was like, why did you borrow $300 from your brother to give them when you gave them the money they were coming?

Yeah. Like, this doesn't make any sense. And he was like, oh, you know, I originally borrowed it for something else and then I just used it for that. Okay. That's perfect timing, huh? And then they were like, okay, so, and he was like, and then, you know, I had the, they left the car in the cement,

the clearing behind the cemetery and that's when I picked it up. And they were like, okay, cool. How did they, and he was like, and they did this at night on this night and he was like, okay, cool. How did they get out of the cemetery without a car at night in the middle of the winter?

Right. How did that happen? And he was like, yeah, I don't know. Crazy. I don't know. I just, I do. Why is it? Like those girls are so chaotic. Like so adventurous. So so adventurous, much hippie.

Yes, much hippie. So that's it. So he's like, oh, that's not true either. No, and they're like, dude. They're like, hey, we just like to like pencil you in to tell the truth. So can you let us know when that's happening? So now he's like, I'm ready. I'm ready to tell you what it is. Okay, so now they're both pregnant and they both want abortion. So this is like the eighth story at this point. And he's like, and now instead of going to Montreal, they're going to California again. And they needed money because they both have to get abortions.

So that's why he bought their car. So he bought the car. So that whole thing before it was just bullshit. Oh, he didn't. Then he said he, then he was like, I just, I, I didn't know where they were going to leave the car. I just found the car and the woods on chance. Oh.

And he said he found it with two friends of his, Timmy and Steve. Timmy and Steve, do they exist? They do weirdly enough because what I first heard it out, it was like friends of his, Timmy and Steve. Timmy and Steve, do they exist? They do, weirdly enough, because what I first heard it out, it was like, there's no Timmy and Steve out of here. So then he was like, I took the car, and I parked it in front of my brother's home in Boston. And then he claimed the girls just came and stole it back.

Wow, but the police were like, but they didn't have the keys, Tony. Oh my God. How did they steal it back? And he was like, oh, oh wow. And they were like, did they didn't have the keys, Tony. Oh my God. How did they steal it back? And he was like, oh, oh, wow. And they were like, did anyone see him do it? No. No one saw him do it.

Then he said, Russell, the friend they were supposed to pick up and bring somewhere. Who was like, I didn't see it. Like, they never met me. They didn't show up because they had been killed by Tony. He said, Russell called him and said, the car was at an airport in Burlington. How the fuck does Russell know you?

He knows at an airport in Burlington. Well, wow. So he said he went there to a bridge over the month. The car was there and he's like, oh, and then I just ran into Patricia and Marien in downtown Burlington. Wow, we just on the sidewalk and they were like, sorry. Oh, sorry that we took that car back. Oh, no. And he was like, they were like, oh, we're going to Canada because we just want to run away again.

I just want to run away. So he's like, so I'm just such a good guy. Yeah. That even though they stole back the car that I gave me, I drove them to the airport again. And they got on a plane to Montreal and and that was that I never saw them again Okay, and police were like I Thought you said you didn't that you never saw them again after Provincetown and he was like my bad Burlington He was like I lied my bad. I forgot that we went all the way to Vermont Yeah, he was like there's a lot of places so many places a lot of places a lot of things You know California kind of sounds like Canada, so my mistake.

You know, Canada, OK. Canada. It's just, yeah, I can see how he's confused. You know, so the police are like, wow. You lie in. Yikes. No, the police are like, why you will waste that? I did.

That's literally what the province down police did. Literally. Then he told them that he only came back to P-town because his mother told him all about the missing girls. And since he had their car, he figured he was like, I should come and clear things up, which is like, wow, you made it about as clear as mud, buddy. So it's like, I came here to clear things up

by telling you 15 different stories that don't make any sense. Right. Thank you so much. And also, I didn't tell you until you started looking into me. Exactly. Weird. So the officer was even like, wait, so where are they?

Like do you know, like are they in Montreal? He's like, I never saw them again, bro. Because at one time, he also said like he he was gonna go meet them somewhere and they were like, he was like, well, then where are they? And he was like, I don't know. And he told that he was like, I think they're in Canada. That's where they last went. I'm going to Montreal.

And he was like, the police officer was like, okay, I'm, because he was getting annoyed with the police officer being like, they're in Canada. Right. And he was like, oh, I'm sorry. You've told me so many things I forgot where they ended up. Right. At the end of the story. So then Tony suddenly gets angry.

Uh-oh. I mean, because now the guy's like, you changed your story and he's like, what? No, I didn't. I should not. So he gets angry and he says, do you think I killed them? And the police officers like, he's like, whoa, I didn't even think they were dead. We didn't say anything about them being dead. They're just missing. We just want to find them alive and bring them back to their families.

What are you talking about? And he was like, and so he was like, what do you know about this? And he literally goes, you're not going to find them. Oh, and then he just was like, yeah, I don't want the car back or the bill of sale. Like you can keep it. It's cool.

And they were like, oh, okay, like go off. Yeah. And they were like, okay. Well, I mean, really, do they technically have anything to hold to? No, no. They don't. All they have is that he's a creepy fuck

and that he clearly has something to do with it, but they can't. Because they also do. They don't have bodies. They have nothing else. What can you do without a body? What can you do without a body? I don't know.

So they found out they were like, all right, we got to start talking to people more about this Tony character because we got to find out more. Yeah. So they find out they were like, all right, we gotta start talking to people more about this Tony character because we gotta find out more. So they find out from people talking, talking to people about Tony, that he's a complete asshole. And especially to Ava's, his ex-wife. He had, you know, he at one point had been abusing her

and the children, he would rape her. He liked to, he, in friends said this whole act about loving his kids is like bullshit. Of course. It usually is for people like. He never saw them, like literally never. And he was like, and when he did, he was annoyed by them and said they were like a big burden.

Well, and also you love your kids, but you don't pay child support. And nope. And he said like he would go home and like friends would see him and like the older kids would be like, oh my god, daddy and like jump and like run all over him. And he'd be like, uh,

he'd just like walk through them. Like wouldn't acknowledge them. Cool for you to make kids and they're annoying. Very cool. Now officer Barrio at the time, or chief Barrio at the time, said he had heard rumors around town

at the time when that Avis had been rushed to the hospital at one point, very ill. And it was because Tony had fed her in bombing fluid. What? Because remember, he's a taxidermist. He has in bombing fluid. I was like, where did he get that? I forgot this is it for taxidermy.

Right. Now, and apparently he also, and I think I mentioned it later, but I might as well mention it now, that Avis said that he liked to have sex with her while she was unconscious. So he would often like ask her if he could like choke her out or like give her something to make her unconscious. So I don't know about you, but to me that makes me think that you like to fuck dead bodies. Yeah, that's necrophilia. Yep, that's brought to you by Necrophilia.

So now they're like, let's find this Timmy and Steve, he mentioned in one of his stories. Let's see if they can see it. Because he's definitely implicating people now, so we might as well chat with these people. Yeah. Turns out their names were Steve Grund and Timmy weed atkins.

Not real. weed in quotations. Well, apparently he was just called weed. So incredible. Oh, Timmy weed. Now, so Steve comes into the police station and he says February 2nd, they were walking down commercial street in Provincetown, around 10.30 p.m. and they saw Tony at a phone booth and they had his bike leaning and the phone booth and he like pops out and is like, oh, hey guys, I just need to chat with you for a second.

And they were like, okay. Now, he asked if they wanted to go to Boston because he said he had a car. And they were like, okay, so Steve agreed. And he's like, you know, we, and so Tony was like, we have to take a cab to go get the car because I had to park it somewhere. The cops wouldn't find it. Uh-huh. So already Steve is like giving information of like, no, that car wasn't there. He said he parked it there

Right, so that cops wouldn't find it now Steve's worried a little bit and it's like whose car be this? Yeah, like what the fuck? But Tony's assuring him is it's not stolen everything's fine Everything's legit so they got a ride out there to the clearing behind the cemetery and there was the car And he said he would tell them how he got it on the way to Boston Okay, I'd be like that's okay. No, I don't need to go. So on the way, he said the whole story about two Providence girls who bought his sheesh from him last summer never paid him, so he took their car from them and paid them a couple hundred bucks. Okay.

He said they were going to Canada and he was going to be meeting up with them soon. Okay. So they were like, okay, that's weird. So he ended up later. So they, I guess they drove him to Boston where he got a couple things and they drove him to, like, he ended up driving to Burlington or something. But that's not really important. So he ended up later trying to sell a gun to Timmy. A thief?

A thief told him, Steve told Timmy, no. Like that's strange. He was like that whole situation was weird. I would not buy shit off of him. Like there's just virtually not guns. He was like, it's definitely stolen. It's definitely dirty. There's something in here.

He was like used in a crime. Yeah. So he advised Timmy against it. And Timmy was like, okay, I won't buy the gun. Okay, like, I'm not trying to tell you like how to do murder, but like, you live in Provincetown. If you want to get rid of the gun, just throw it into the water. Well, that's actually, I think that's what they think ended up happening, but okay. But yeah. So and Timmy was only like 20 years old. He was like a young kid. So I think he thought like weed

was gonna take this and like be fine with it. So Timmy corroborated Steve's story to the police. Okay. So they then got Tony's police record and those nighttime break-ins came up when he was younger. Yeah. And they were like, it's starting to look more and more like he is, there's some shady shit going on.

Right, right, right. Now, a Missing Persons report comes through by someone called, named Susan Perry. Okay. You might remember Susan Perry from earlier. She was a girlfriend. She was a girlfriend and lived with Tonya, on blinds.

Now, her mother put in this Missing Persons report. She said the 18-year-old had dropped out of high school. And we were so close. And when somewhere with, I know. And when somewhere with friends, but she had not heard her since like Labor Day. Oh, no. Now the police were like, ma'am, that was six months ago.

Yeah. And they were like, why did you wait half a year to report your daughter missing? Like, what is that? And she was like, hippies, you know. Oh, like, just hippies. Okay. And you're like, okay. Alrighty. Like just hippies. Okay. Okay.

Alrighty. That's your job. But okay, like that's fine. Live your life. Like it was just like the 60s. Like this is just very 60s. I know. That must have been hard.

There was probably a lot of parents that had kids run away. And can you imagine being the police back then? You're just like, oh, when? And what did they leave? And they're like, I don't know four years ago. And you're like, yeah, I don't know what to tell you. There's not a lot I can do here.

I don't think I can help you. I think that's that's Ed Big Mow. So at this point, they thought the body could that the they had found in the behind the trodosamitary. Yeah. They thought this might be Sidney Monson who had gone missing before. And did she also date him? She did. Yes. Okay. She had been missing since Memorial Day. And she matched the description so they were like all right So they said because when this missing persons report for Susan Perry came in they didn't even think of it yet That that could be her yeah, so they spoke to Sydney Monz and sister and she said last time she saw her sister She was getting into a car with Tony Costa. Oh, yeah, and she said she had been hanging around with Tony Costa for about a month They said they didn't like her hanging out with him,

none of them liked him. No. He was known to be creepy and shady, a hard drug user and that he liked younger girls. No, thanks. So they compared her prints to the body? Didn't match. No.

Not Sydney. So now Tony has changed his story again. Oh my God. And he said, he actually gave the girls 300 bucks and borrowed 600 from his brother. He just whoops. When are we gonna call his brother? Yeah.

But now, so they had already talked to the brother, the police. And he confirmed that he lent him 300 bucks. Okay. So now he's like, no, I didn't give him $600. He's like, what do you think I am, an idiot? And so they bring that to Tony, that's a lie. And Tony was like, no, Vincent's mistaken. And they were like, no brother. No, he was not.

No brother. And they so then he says that Marion and Patricia were really hard drug users, deeply addicted to heroin and his sheesh. Not true. Okay. And the police said that's not true. Nothing indicated that in their backstort like we talked to everyone they know. We would know that also there. And literally teachers. Literally. And so then they also asked about the hairdryer and the sweater.

They were like, tell why were those in your room. It's also weird that the, I'm still confused about why the mom asked for her hairdryer. That's, and it's weird. That's weird. That's not a coincidence. I think it was Tony asking her to call and ask. And she just didn't ask anything. I think she was just asking her to call and ask, and she just didn't ask anything.

I think she was just like, can you have a third-writer? Yeah. So they asked about that, and he said, those were already in my room when I got there, which is literally impossible, because he was already at the rooming house

when they arrived before them. So they were like, no. That doesn't make sense, and he was like, I don't know. I don't know. And they were like, fuck. So they were like, dude, get a lawyer. Because we're pretty sure we're gonna be arresting you soon.

Like they were like, you should get a lawyer. Yeah. Because you're real fucked. And you're not helping yourself. So now meanwhile, everyone in Mary Ann and Patricia's life were saying they were definitely coming back to Providence after this trip. Yeah.

There was no indication they were going anywhere else. They were not going to Canada, they were not going to LA. They all confirmed, including the girls' boyfriends that they never used drugs. They just smoked pot every once in a while. They had a crime scene investigator look at the VW bug, and they finally located and took custody of it after. I was gonna say Jesus Christ.

They did a test for blood, you know, non-visible blood. Sure. And it lit up. Yeah. So the steering wheel, the front passenger seat, a ton was found on the back of the front passenger seat. There was also visible blood smears on the handles, and rope that had been found in Tony's possession

had brown female hairs in it, and there was also fuchsia lipstick and blood on it. Oh, no. They tested his boots that he had left at the rooming house, and there was also blood on those. Uh-oh. Yeah.

Meanwhile, he had been in and out of his mother's apartment on Cape Cod. And she had said they were having, that since he had left, like, since he had been there and left, they were having like plumbing issues suddenly and the upstairs bed, like where he was been there and left, they were having like plumbing issues suddenly in the upstairs bed where he was staying. Okay.

And she was like, I'm pretty sure like, he's flushing things down the toilet. And I don't know what. Imagine your grown-ass son, like that's what you're dealing with. I can't. I feel like, get out of my fucking apartment. I literally can't.

And she again said she was afraid of her son and she didn't like him hanging around. Oh, that makes you so sad. Yeah, and she was like, there's something going on. So they came to, she had the police come and they had the cesspool pumped and found pictures of women ripped into shreds that had been flushed down the toilet.

Mm, okay. Now they're continuing their questions of anyone who knew Tony and they find a girl that he knew named Masha Mowry. Now she's a teen still in high school because he's a fucking pervert. It's just good said. And she said he often took her to his garden where he kept his plants.

In one time in 1967, he brought her there and brought a bow and arrow and targets because he was apparently a known like very good archer. That's terrifying. When they were walking back, she was ahead of him, and she got shot in the back with an arrow. Her heavy coat was her saver, if it's saver, I guess, because it stopped it from like really,

she was punctured with it. But he told her he was trying to send the arrow next to her into a tree to scare her. But everyone said he's very skilled with arrows and wouldn't have missed that badly. Wow. Yeah, so he was trying to kill her.

Yeah, pretty much. She was also friends with Avis, and she told her Tony made her take tranks a lot because he preferred to have sex with her when she was unconscious. I mean, like, how good friends are you with Avis if you're messing around with her man? Exactly. No, she also said he messing around with her man. Exactly. No, she also said he beat her with a belt. That's not nice. They forced Marsha.

Her name was Marsha. I said Marsha before, but it was an order for us. It was awesome. It's fine. Marsha. Marsha. So they forced Marsha to show them the garden, because at first she didn't want to.

She was like, no. But they forced her to, and it was close to the place where the unidentified body had been found. So they were like, oh, it's all coming together. And the bug. And the bug. So they began searching the garden, and they found a purse and a wallet

with Patricia's cards in them. A-e-e. They kept searching. They found two ID cards from Rhode Island College, cut in half. They were Patricia and Mary Ann. And I'm sorry, this is in the garden. In the garden. Okay. Also found items from the colleges like a report card from fall 67, a student schedule for fall 68, and these were all

Marien and Patricia's. Yeah. They also found a bill from the Bercer. They also found a receipt for the Rooming House signed by Patricia Morton for the days they had stayed there. They knew they were close to finding them because why the hell would literally They also found a receipt for the rooming house signed by Patricia Morton for the days they had stayed there. They knew they were close to finding them because why the hell would literally everything they own and came with be in this random place near another dead body. Yeah. So they were like, they have to be here. Yeah. The next day they went back because they needed light. They had found these things at night.

They found bits of red stained rope around a tree. A lot of drug paraphernalia and a razor blade. As they moved around the area, they came upon a gold earring, and they began moving away, some leaves and like, you know, some earth that looked disturbed, and they found this big area that looked like the earth had been dug recently. Like, clearly someone had dug and refilled a hole. Right. Now it was Officer Edgar Tom Gunnery, who started digging with a shovel about three feet down, and then he started using his hands to dig.

Oh. Dude was crazy. Also on the scene was Bernie, Officer Bernie Flynn, Officer George Killing and Chief Francis Marshall. George Killing. George Killing. He had to. George Killing. George Killing. He had to be a cop. He was.

No, they eventually uncovered a human hand and a wrist, which was protruding, like protruding upwards out of the soil. And it was wearing a ring. Then they found hair, which was attached to a scalp. They pulled the hair to try to like move it a little bit and it like came off the scalp. Flynn, so officer Flynn, cupped his hands around the head to pull it up and it was a severed head.

It pulled right out. It was of a woman. The nose was clearly broken and the left cheek was swollen and bruised. Just like the passfought in the unidentified one. Exactly. They pulled out more parts, including a headless torso with arms attached, but severed in the middle of the abdomen. And was that one missing a hand? This one, I don't think so. OK, so this is one of the two.

Yeah. The chest was sliced open on this one, and the skin was flayed back to the shoulders, like the other one. They also found a green dress, Nylon's boots, and also a blood stained rope. They immediately put out a warrant for a rest for Tony Costa. As they kept digging, so while they put out the warrant,

they're still digging. Yeah. These dudes were bad ass. I love that. They dug with their bare hands and shit, the entire time, like they excavated this entire scene. That's incredible. And like one of them, I think it was Officer Flynn was saying that for like days and days afterwards,

he kept trying to wash his jacket, but like it just wouldn't get rid of the smell, so we ended up having to throw it away. Oh. As they kept digging, they found a green, very 60s embroidered smock, more nylon, more pale bottles, then they went to another area nearby and saw some more disturbed dirt. So they began to dig again, hoping to find the

other body. It didn't take long. About two feet down, they saw human remains. A woman's legs severed at the waist and slashed up with flesh flayed all over. Oh. They also found the upper portion with the same opened up chest and flayed back flesh. The face was beaten badly, and they knew it was Patricia Walsh. Oh, no.

In the same grave, they found a pair of women's legs and a pelvis separated, which they were like probably belongs to the other body. Uh-huh. And it's interesting that the pelvis was a thing in the unidentified body. It's very weird. And the legs were again viciously slashed down the front and back. They found a white blood-soaked sweater and brown pants. Now these bodies were very preserved, these two, because they were pretty recent and it was freezing. Okay. So the ground was freezing, it just preserved them,

but the smell in that second grave, or in both the graves was terrible. I can't imagine. So they were wondering where the fuck it was coming from because it wasn't coming from these bodies. Because they were pretty preserved. They were pretty preserved. You'll see, when a body's in a cold area,

you don't really get too much of a smell. You'll get a little of a smell, but that makes sense. It really takes some warmth to get that. Think of like this is horrible to say, but like think of like cold garbage versus hot garbage. Yeah, exactly. That's the thing. So they were like, what is smelling so bad? Yeah. So they're like, we better keep digging. So they did, they find another body underneath these two bodies. Now this is the fourth total. This is a fourth body. It was posed and dismembered, but with all the pieces placed in the right position. That is so terrifying. Something about that

is real creepy. It's so much. But it was missing one leg and it was black, like blackened skin, like clearly very decomposed and badly rotting, like a very ill, with exposed jaw and teeth, which they said made it look like it was smiling. Oh, oh yeah, no, no, no. The body had long dark hair, and with this body, they found a shirt, jeans, and sandals. Okay.

So now they have two new bodies that they have found, dismembered in the same area as the third unidentified body that has also been dismembered. Yeah. And then they also have one that has been buried underneath the newer two and has been there for a long time. Right.

So they're like, what the fuck is going on? And now they know this is the area the VW bug was found in. They know this is Tony's garden that he's been to a million times. Right. But now they just need evidence. Like, they just need like actual tangible evidence or something.

But now they're like, you know what? Because before they could, they were going to pick up Tony for automobile theft, like felony automobile theft for the VW. But just a hold them. Just a hold them. But they were holding off on doing that because they didn't want to scare him until they had stuff to hold him with. Like longer.

But after they found these three more bodies, they immediately picked up Tony Costa for felony automobile theft for the van, and then when they got him in there, they booked him for murder. Incredible. And I'm going to stop right there. You be out.

Because holy shit, waiting to you here, the next episode is going gonna have the autopsies because shit gets worse. Um, that we identify the bodies. Uh-huh. And we talk about Tony after the fact. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Guys, this case is nuts and I am so remiss that I didn't know about it before. It's so, I feel like, I don't know if I'm like super interested because it happened in our home, like near our home. Yeah. Like, I don't know what it, probably because it's the 60s and we all know me. It's crazy.

I wanna read this book. Well, now, and it sounds terrible, but a lot of people, I guess, like, to go to the area where this was all found and stuff, and I'm like, shit, I wanna go. I'm not gonna lie to you, I kinda want to go. Oh my God. Because I really wanna go.

And it's weird because usually I'm not, so I mean, that wants to do that. You really don't, but I need to go. I wanna go. And it's so close. And I fucking love P-town wants to do that. You really don't, but I need to go. I wanna go. And it's so close. And I fucking love P-town. I do too. So who doesn't love P-town?

Well, this isn't a T-R-O, but same deal. It's like right there. So, and it like, he's from P-town, the whole social area. The whole area. Started in P-town, so it's like, so weird to think of how many times I've been to P-town and like walk around and like not,

like, and they were likely to know this. To know this in P-town and then brought to T-R-O. Right, because they stayed in P-town. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Wow. This is first of all like a hello great job. Thank you for you. Wow. It's crazy. So part two will be oh shortly. I am not quite done with it, but it'll be done very shortly. I want it now. I know. I know. I will try to get it done as quickly as you would be possible. We'll try to get well It'll either be you know You know tomorrow or it'll be the very next episode that we'll do early

I'm so excited depending on what I can get because I just keep finding more and I want to add more So I just want to have it how I want well, we have to record for scream tonight We do recording for screen. Oh, by the way, I'm gonna be on Scream. Yeah, she's gonna be on Scream tonight. So for the next episode. Spoiler alert. Yay! Alright guys, well, that's everything for now.

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