Morbid - Episode 293: Where is Brandon Swanson? Part 1

Episode Date: January 24, 2022

Brandon Swanson was 19 years old when he went missing in the state of Minnesota. He had been out earlier that night and gone to a couple of parties before making his way home to Marshall, Minnesota. Unfortunately, on the way home, he ran into a bit of car trouble when his car veered a bit off the side of a gravel road and got stuck in a ditch. He called his parents for help and explained exactly where he was but when they got there Brandon was nowhere to be seen and neither was his car. This case is truly one of the most bizarre we’ve covered to date and sadly, there is a lack of any closure involved. If you or someone you know has any information about Brandon Swanson's location or disappearance, please contact: The Lincoln County Sheriff's Office 1-507-694-1664 FBI ViCap 1-800-634-4097 or [e-mail] As always, thank you to our sponsors: FirstLeaf: Head to  TRY Firstleaf.com/MORBID for 6 bottles of wine for $29.95 with free shipping. Modern Fertility: Right now, Modern Fertility is offering our listeners $20 off the test when you go to ModernFertility.com/MORBID Honey: Get Honey for FREE at Join Honey.com/MORBID GoodRX: For simple, smart savings on your prescriptions, go to GoodRX.com/morbid See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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of your home. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's ANGI.com. If you have any information on Brandon Swanson, his disappearance or where he might be literally any information, you can contact the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office in Minnesota at 1507-694-1664. You can also contact Agent Derek Woodford of the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. or you can contact the FBI ViCap at 1-800-634-4097 or ViCap-VICAP at LeoLEO.gov. Hey, Weirdo's, I'm Ash, and I'm Alena, and this is morbid. I apologize because I might sound a little congested. Oh no, what's wrong with that? I do not have the Rona.

I already had that and I don't have it right now. But I think it's that the kids went back to school and they bring things home that they don't necessarily get infected by but they just pass it on to me. Yeah, they're like little freaking carriers. It's very nice. It's a nice part of parenting that I'm enjoying right now. Yeah, kids are really gross. I haven't had just a random cold in a long time because we haven't gone anywhere. Because yeah, we're not going anywhere.

But alas, we can't escape any of this apparently. We're all just going to be incubuses of viral plague delicious yeah you know what shout out to Miranda Priestly yeah one I think one of the only one things we really wanted to talk about before we dive into this two-parter is I know is we wanted to mention that the FBI has officially closed the Gabby Petito Bryan Laundry investigation. They said that they know exactly what happened. There's no reason to investigate it further. Bryan Laundry is a horrible murderer who got to escape the justice that he should have faced. Living forever. who got to escape the justice that he should have faced.

Living forever. Confessed in a notebook. Yeah, he just confessed in a notebook that they found that none of us have seen. And he apparently took his own life with a single gunshot and never has to face the consequences of his actions. So that's horrific.

And I feel so bad for Gabby Petito's loved ones and her family. Absolutely. I think that, you know, Brian Laundrie's parents should be talked to. I think that. There's an obstruction of justice charge in there somewhere I feel like.

Maybe a few. I think we need to look into that timeline a little bit and what they knew and what they didn't know. That's just me though. I am not the FBI, so I cannot make that happen. I think they just want to tie it up in a quick bow and let it be the end of it. Put a bow on it and that'd be that.

But yeah, so we just wanted to mention that because we had mentioned, as that was all ongoing, but again, Gabby Petito, deserved to live a long, happy life. She deserves so much more. Without that piece of absolute garbage. Garbage, exact. Rest and distress to him. Rest in peace to Gabby. Don't even rest Brian. Yeah you shouldn't be resting but unfortunately that's the way the cookie grumbled here. But I hope her family is doing well. They're amazing people. And I hope that they are able to find some kind of peace

in this. But we will move on from that. And we will start this episode because this is something I'm excited to talk about just because it's a scary case. But there's just a lot to get into here. Now, I initially had a serial killer case that I will be doing probably next week. Okay.

And I was into it and I'm like, I'm like, oh, this is gonna be a multiple parter. And then I happened to just like, like it happens all the time. I saw this case on the side of a website and I was like, huh, and I just clicked on it. I was like, oh, I remember this case. You have a case ADD. I really do. It's just like something else draws me in and I just clicked on it. I was like, oh, I remember this case. You have like case ADD.

I really do. It's just like something else draws me in and I have to do it. Regular ADD. I just have very specific focus ADD, which is weird, very much an oxymoron. But I realized I haven't done a missing person in a long time.

Yeah, I've done a lot of murders, a lot of like spooky phenomenon, but I have not done a missing person. All right. And so I was like, I gotta do this one. So I'm gonna cover Brandon Swanson. And a lot of people might know this name, they might know this case a little bit.

It's a fascinating one, it's a really sad one. His parents were on the phone when he went missing. That's so crazy. Which is something you don't find in any other case. No. In other cases. But it's not a very common occurrence. And this one just has so many unanswered questions

that I would like to discuss. That's why this is going to be a two-parter. I want to get into the nitty gritty here. And then the second part, I want to talk about some theories, what could have happened, some things that are said in a lot of sources that turned out to be a little different than what the people who were actually there claim to happen. There's just a lot. So I think the second one we can really get into theories and such. But we are going to start at the beginning here. Yeah, I think I know like some of the details in this case, but I definitely't heard it told in a while so I'm excited to hear your telling. I got real into this. You did? I had. That's so crazy for you. You never get into anything. Why don't you ever

get into things? I know. I never get into anything. That's it. It's just it's wild. This is the one. And you know I call, I was calling John and, of course, some monitor, and I had like Google Maps, like very, just like, like just, I was Google, Google mapping this very rural part of Minnesota. And John was like, what's happening? Like what, where, what, what, don't you know? And I was like, you gotta come here. And I was like, look at this place.

Now look at this place. Where, what room would you take to get to this place? And you're like, I don't know. I don't know. I've never been to Minnesota. I don't know. Like, what are you doing? And then I call him back and be like, let me tell you at this part, this is where this was found. What do you think of that? And he's like, I don't know. I don't know this case. Wait, please. I'll wait for the episode, I guess. You and I both do that. And it's always the same reaction from the both of them. Like, I'll call Drew and I'll be like, try. Do you see like the look in his eyes? Like,. Like, I'll call Drew and I'll be like, try. Do you see the look in his eyes?

Like, clearly he's guilty. Or like, I'll be like, do you see the look in his eye? Like, yeah, that guy is innocent. And he's like, yeah, whatever you say. He's like, totally, I have no fucking idea. 100% by, that's what I say. He's like, I feel how you feel. Exactly.

So, we are going to get into this. So, this case is from 2008, which upon hearing at first, if you were like me, you're like, that was a few years ago. Yep. It was a lot of years ago. So, and it's very like when you, when you finally like count the years,

you're like, oh, okay, that's not like five years ago. What's that going on like 15? It's a lot. Yeah, that's right. So we are going to talk about May 14th, 2008 in Marshall, Minnesota. This is 19 year old Brandon Victor Swanson, and he calls his mother and father that evening. His mother and father Brian and Annette Swanson, he called them at 1.54 a.m. and tells them everything's fine, which I'm sure is like the first thing you want to hear from your kid when they call you at 154 in the morning is like everything's fine. And he tells them he's totally fine. He's not hurt, but he did accidentally drive his green Chevy

Lumina off the road on his way home. And he just couldn't get it out of the stitch and it become wedged in the stitch. And I think what had happened is it like, I think he was trying to turn around in a dirt road. Like a rural dirt road. And he went off the side and then his wheels couldn't catch the dirt. So they were just spinning in the air. So he literally just couldn't move the car. Oh, that's terrifying. At two o'clock in the morning.

Yeah, so it's not really that he got in like a car accident. It's that he just like made a mistake turning around. Sure. Yeah. Now again, he calmed them by telling them he was completely unheard, but just needed some help with his car and none of his friends were answering the phone. So they of course told him stay where you are and we're gonna be there in minutes. Right. And he was calm. He explained exactly where he was located so that they could find him. He was on the phone with them. And off they went into the night never to see their son again. What happened? So let's rewind a bit.

That was May 14th. We're talking about May 13th, 2008, the day before. Classes at Minnesota, West Community and Technical College had just let out. And students decided to blow off some steam that evening to celebrate. Yeah, of course. As we all do, frickin' party. Now, one of these students was 19-year-old Brandon Swanson, who we just talked about. Brandon was born January 30th, 1989,

to Annette and Brian Swanson. And Aquarius. There you go. And I have that right, I know it. Boom! Oh yeah, because actually, is it? It's Aquarius season right now. Yeah, there you go. Now he lived with them in Marshall, Minnesota while he attended school at the technical college. He had

one younger sister. Okay. Now everyone says everything I could find about him is that he was a good kid. Everyone said he was very smart. He loved to read, he loved to research. He was a true scientist at heart, but also had kind of like a philosopher way about him. Cool. Because he loved discussing complex theories and ideas. It's a very acquirious tendency. There you go. He seemed very cool to be around, and like he was someone who would kind of constantly keep you on your toes and thinking about things. I love that. I love that. I love that. That's what a great person to hang out with. Yeah, it seems like a cool person to hang with. He was a good student. He had a lot of friends.

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and America's criminal justice system. Follow American scandal wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wonder App. Now, he was studying wind turbines and wind energy in school. That's cool, which is, I'm like, I've literally, I know that they exist. I've never heard of somebody studying them, so I'm like, cool. I'm glad somebody is studying them because we need that. This was super important to him because he was also very dedicated to renewable energy and the environment.

So that's why he wanted to go into this. He was someone that we kind of need more of in the world in that sense. He had just received his credits for his degree and he was going to be starting another program at a technical school. I believe in Iowa at the end of that summer. And then he was going to try to transfer to a four-year college and like keep going. Good for him. And I think he wanted a major in like science, like really keep this engineering, this whole wind turbine, renewable energy career going.

So he was going to like stack those degrees, which like get it. Yeah, like let's go. So he had plans. He was doing things to make them happen. He wasn't just saying I want to do these things. He had plans in motion. Now, according to the FBI ViCap website, he had brown hair, blue eyes, and was about five, six, and 120 pounds. He was like a smaller guy. He's not like, he doesn't weigh a ton. So he's less than me. So he left his parents house that evening, and the party he attended first was in Linn to Minnesota. It was close to his home only about seven miles, and he stayed for a bit without incident. Witnesses saw him throughout the evening wearing baggy jeans, a blue striped polo shirt, a

dark sweatshirt that zipped up the front, and a white Minnesota twins baseball hat, his favorite team. All right. He was also wearing his glasses, which he always wore, and a silver chain and had his ears pierced. Love it. Like very 2008. Yes.

At some point during the night, around 1030-ish, he left that party in Linde, and he went to one in Canby, which is in the opposite direction. Trust me, I studied these maps like crazy. I was going to say you were on the Google Maps. Because when you start reading this, I don't know anything about Minnesota. Of course not.

I don't know anything about Minnesota. So like, can be lend, Marsha. I'm like, I, I, that's all grouped to me. You could not, like, you, you could have me, like hanging off a cliff and be like, you have to point to that on a map. And I'd be like, well, just drop me. And so when I look at this, not now, not now, now, now, I know everything about Minnesota. I'm coming for you, don't you know? Don't you know?

So basically, it's like Marshall is kind of in the middle here and lend is one side and can be his way the other. Okay. And obviously there's ways to get to both, but you should, you know, you could go through Marshall to get back to can be all that. And it's an easier way. Okay. And obviously there's ways to get to both, but you should, you know, you could go through Marshall to get back to Canbee. And it's an easier way. Exactly. So this location, the Canbee location was about 40 minutes away and was where his college was actually located. Okay. That's where the technical school was. So it makes sense. Why is how did that? I knew this area very well. It was about 30 minutes from his parents' home in Marshall because that extra 10 minutes that I tack on is because he was coming from Lynn's

Yeah, opposite direction a different party. Lynn is about 10 minutes from Marshall about 40 minutes from Camille So minutes and miles minutes and miles all all over here now He stayed there in Camille for a while at this party and it was like kids from school He partied but not like too hardy a and it was like kids from school. He partied, but not like too hardy according to everybody. Because he was driving. Yeah, and he had left around midnight.

Okay. Now witnesses said he was not drunk, that he didn't slam down drinks all night, but he definitely drank. Okay, that is something everybody said. Yeah. Everyone agreed that he was not intoxicated to like an impaired point when he left.

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at some point and had just come off of dealing with that in a probation period and all that. So there is thoughts that he was being a little careful here because he had already had a little bit of issues like 19 years old. Of course. Because again, he's not a legal drinking age either. So you don't really want to be caught that. But what we do know for sure is that multiple people said at the Kimby party, he did have

one shot at least of whiskey. Okay. So that is something everybody can say because they saw it. Fucking hate him. Other than that, they were like, I think he was just kind of like having a drink all night. Yeah, like a beer, whatever happens in beers. Now before that, like I said, he maybe had another drink or two, but no one can say for absolute certain. What we do know is when he left that party, he left alone, and it was around midnight.

No one thought he was drunk or was concerned about him driving. That's a big thing. No one felt like they needed to stop him or say, do you need somebody to offer him a ride? Nothing. They knew he was going 30 minutes back home to Marshall and no one was like, you're not okay to drive. Again, this is also a party of 18, 19 year olds and like 20 year olds. Yeah. So of course it might be difficult for them to discern what is the correct way to go about that. You know what I mean? Like it might be they didn't think he was,

he was bad to drive, but who knows? It's hard when you're not in the body of the person that's going to get in the car. It's also a very different thing to, and I'm not saying this is the case for him, but it's different when you're leaving a party. Like I've left a party with somebody before him and like, oh, they're totally fine to drive.

Like, I think they're fine and then gotten in the car with them and been a little more concerned about being in a car with somebody. Exactly. Because I think when you're in the party atmosphere, everything gets kind of muffled a little bit because the party kind of takes like there's a lot of people you're talking, you're in this adrenaline thing. And then you get in the car and it's like woo,

reality kind of hits. So who knows? Yeah. But we'll get to that because his parents also have a say in this because they talk to him on the phone. They obviously have known him since birth. They know him very well. They have something to say about whether they believe he was intoxicated or impaired.

Okay. Now, the road home to Marshall where his parents lived was a straight road Route 68. It's just a straight road that connects Canvy to Marshall, where his parents lived, was a straight road, Route 68. It's just a straight road that connects Canvae to Marshall. And so just driving straight 30 minutes would have brought him home. He didn't need to pull off. It's literally Route 68. It's just straight to Marshall. And it was on this drive home that he somehow ran his car into a ditch on the side of the

road, turning around. Which why would he be turning around? He's just going straight. Exactly. And again, according to him, he was unhurt and it wasn't even a bad accident or anything like that. The car was okay. Just stuck.

So after trying a bunch of friends, he tried to call a bunch of his friends because you would. Yeah, especially now. It's like, lay and you don't want to wake your parents up. Yeah. You really don't want to wake your parents up in the middle of the night at 19 after you've been to two parties and have had anything to drink? He finally decided though that they're the only ones

who'd probably answer and come to his restaurant. I'm just gonna call. So I got a call. He just couldn't get this car moving. And it's, like I've been with people in that position before of like, I don't understand how fucking tires or anything like that work, but where you're just like,

so connected to the road. Like, they were just hovering over the road. They couldn't grip, so it was just spinning in there. And again, like, he's not a huge guy. Like, he can push his car. Exactly. He's not a big guy. So I don't want to do that alone anyway, because then you could fall underneath the car.

And that could be, yeah. And it's like, he's probably tired. He's been hanging out all night. He's had school. It's like, he's probably like, oh, whatever. I'm just going to call my parents. So at 1.54am, he calls and tells them what happened. And they left immediately with directions, he gave them to find him in the car. Now, what he told them, he said, I'm actually only like 10

minutes from home. He's like, I'm very close. He was saying he was somewhere between his home and Marshall and Lind. Now, if you remember, he was not. It's Marshall and you go straight up Route 68 to Canby. Along the way is like Taunt and I think a place called Miniota, but then the other way outside of Marshall is Lind. The 10 minutes away. Now, he was at Lind first. Yeah.

And he went to Canby. Yeah. And was coming home from Canby. So he shouldn't even be So why is he saying he's in between linden Marshall? Like that's strange, but they didn't know that they just he's telling them that's where he is. Okay now It's and again, it's like I Just there's literally I was trying to figure out any way that this made sense and he wrote

But it's a real head scratcher for me. He went, if he was, if he was there, which we're going to say whether he was or not, it would be unbelievably out of the way. Well, Angie would have had to pass through his hometown. So he would have to, if he went down Route 68, there are like back roads. So which I'll get into in a second. If he went back roads from Canby,

he would technically go through Linde, but it would be an unbelievably long route. And it would almost be like a hook. It would move around. It would move around. And it would go through and back around. You'd be coming into Marshall from like the backside instead of just coming straight

into Marshall. And I might be getting like way ahead of myself here, but is there any reason why he would have needed to stop back in Linde or like any does anything? We know that's a possibility That's what we'll get into in the second part is like whether that's a Thing yeah, because again, it doesn't make sense, but but we'll get to it. Don't worry So it should be noted like I said before his parents had a

Had something to say about whether he was an ebriated or not They should be noted that his parents maintain that he did not sound inebriated or incapacitated in any way shape or form to them. Okay. They serve parents now. And they have not wavered on this. Yeah, your parents knew. His father was on the phone with him a lot that night in particular.

His father was and his mom was too, but his dad was on the phone with him literally the entire night. And he said he did not believe he sounded drunk high or anything of the like. Wow. Okay. He said he sounded me like frustrated because he couldn't because his car is on the fine. But he was like, he didn't sound like he was slurring or like mixing up words or anything

like. Okay. So Brian and Annette get to the 10 minute mark near Linde where Brandon had described and he's nowhere to be found. So they're like, okay, so he said he was on the left side of the road off a gravel road off Highway 23. Now this highway is one that is really out of the way of Route 68, which is that straight shot from Cambie to Marshall.

Looking at Google Maps makes you even more confused, but that he didn't just take that straight shot because the only way taking major routes he could have connected with Lind from Cambie without actually going through Marshall, like we said, would be to take Route 75, which that goes through a place called like Ivan Homan in Smedisota all the way up to Lake Benton before turning on to Route 14 and then taking it to Highway 23 where then you would make it to Linde and find yourself in between Linde and Marshall. Okay, but you would likely be on the road known as Hyowathapioneer Trail. Now looking at the map along this particular crazy route, there's a lot of

farmland and mills and campgrounds, a lot of areas to really get lost in the middle of the night. And there's a black rush lake waterfall production area which is listed as a nature preserve and it's huge right off of that. After passing that on the right, you come to a Camden State Park with a historic mill site on your left, like two huge areas to get in a lot of trouble if you're lost. Now I can only imagine he had a reason for taking that kind of crazy way out of the way, because again, not a street shot at all. Like you have that street shot right in front of you, and it's just highway 68, you can just take it. But instead he's taking this like root 75

through all these towns, the rural back roads, and then he's having to turn onto root 14, and then he's gotta take that to another highway, and then you're at land on the backside of Marshall. It's just what? And there's no way that this was faster at all. To me, I don't see it at all. The only thing that I can say is and you've driven with me before,

I'm like, why the fuck are you taking this way? I think like I have shortcuts for everything and you and Drew are like, this is the longest way possible. That's true. Going this way, except that he goes to school and can be every single day. Oh, yeah, but I live in this town. But he takes root 68 every single day. Okay.

There's literally no reason he should have gotten himself lost in these back roads. And he's lived in Minnesota his whole life. And he takes this route every day. He takes this route every single day. This is his route. Like why? Why?

Like why would he do that? I, I, I mean, if he left the party around midnight, there's a possibility he went through to Marshall on that straight shot, which would take about 30 minutes, bringing us to only about 12, 30, 12, 45. And maybe he went to lend again to see someone, let's see. Well, that's the other thing that I was confused about

because you said he left this party at midnight and he didn't call his parents until almost two o'clock in the morning. And even if he went to Linde, that would only take us to around one, not even. And then he may have went to go back to Marshall from Linde again and actually did crash there, but we find out later that's not the truth.

But even going from Linde to Marshall wouldn't have, would only, like, spend nine to ten minutes. Yeah. The timeline doesn't make sense either. No. This is so key. They called him again, and they told him we're in the area between Lynn and Marshall where you said you were,

we don't see you. And he was like, what the fuck, I'm right here, but I don't see you either. And so both. I'm like, I'll fucking universe. Exactly. So both parties see nothing. They're both like, what fuck and a net and Brian Decided to flash their headlights and honk their horn and we're like do you hear that? Like do you see any lights? Yeah, Brandon's like no

I don't see anything. I don't hear anything. Oh, this is freaking out. Now he's insistent He's like I told you the right location. That's where I am. I am between linden. They're like you're not we're right here So they ask him though like can you flash your headlights? Cause maybe we're just not seeing your car on the inside of. I don't know. So they were like, maybe we'll see you in the ditch. So he said he was doing it. And his mom said,

I heard the clicking sound of him flicking his lights. Yeah. Saw nothing. Wow. But he is still insisting. I know exactly where I am. This is where I am. So they started searching for him,

keeping him on the phone. And they're like, dude, you're not anywhere. We're going up and down this road. We don't see you. And they just couldn't see him anywhere. And they're telling him like, are you sure this is the location? Like, let's go over this one more time. And he's like, I am. I told you, and he's getting frustrated, basically thinking his parents are like tired and just not understanding where he was. So he ended up hanging up on his mom at one point, which I was like, that's not great. When you frustrated, basically thinking his parents are tired and just not understanding where he was. So he ended up hanging up on his mom at one point, which I was like, that's not great when you need them to find you, but 19.

And she called him right back and she's like, I calmed him down and I told him, you know, like, I'm sorry, but I'm like trying here. I know you're frustrated. It's cold out here. It was like 40 degrees that night. So she's like, I know you're cold. I know you're frustrated. You're probably like a little scared out here. So was like 40 degrees that night. So she's like, I know your cold, I know you're frustrated, you're probably like a little scared out here.

So let's work on this together. But she's like, I'm really trying to help you here. Like just like I want to be fine. I'm down. She's like, we're frustrated too. Yeah. Everybody to take a chill. And she's probably like,

listen, I want to find you as much as you want me to find you. Well, that's, she's like, I'm worried about you. Like, I want to find you. I want to find you. I want to find you. I want to find you. I want to find you. I want to find you. I want to find you. I want to find you. I want to find you. I want to find you a little baby. I'm like, you're my baby. So after trying some more with no luck,

Brandon said, you know what, maybe we should just meet somewhere specific that we both can go to. Not just like side of the road, not any of that. So he says, you know what, I see lights from like a town. So he's like, I see land, like the town of land. That's where the lights are coming from. So he's like, you know what, I'm going to walk to land because it's not far. He's like, it's 10 minutes up there.

Okay. And he's like, and you know what, why don't I meet you in the parking lot of this bar called the Lindewood and Trev's Kitchen. And he's like, why don't I meet you in the parking lot there? That way we both know where we're going. We can't mix this up. This stresses me out. So this is one of the first, I was like, I got to find this tavern. I need to know where this is. So I looked, this is one of the first, I was like, I gotta find this tavern, I need to know where this is.

So I looked, this is one of the first Lind landmarks off that Hayawatha Pioneer Trail off of Highway 23. So he was smart to say that, because he's saying, there's Lind, I see it, the lights. I'm gonna hit that first landmark that you enter that town, it's right there. Okay. So he's like, we can't, we can't fuck this up.

And again, like I said, it's 40 degrees by this point and it's dropping lower. It's cold and Minnesota. So Brian dropped a net off at home. First, because he was like, I'm going to go meet him because he's like, he's going to take a minute to walk there. So I'm going to drop you out of off at home just so we have somebody at a home base. Yeah. Like I'm getting freaked out here. Yep. Drop you off at home, I'm going to meet him at the bar and we'll figure that out. Okay. So he's like, okay, now this entire time his dad was like stay on the phone with you.

Yeah, because you're walking in the middle like I'm dropping your mama, like you're going to keep me on the phone, but I'm going to keep you company while you're walking. Sure. Like this was smart. Oh God, I'm freaking out. So he's on the phone, they never hung up. He was walking to what he thought was linned and he said he and he was on the phone letting them know every step of the way what he was seeing. I have this feeling that he's not walking to lind. So he was walking along the road telling his father each step and at some

point he told his dad, you know what? I'm going to get off this road. I'm going to cut through this field because he said it's going to be quicker than following the road the entire way And I'm a little it's feels dangerous to be on the road. Okay, so I couldn't figure out what field he was talking about or where it would have been quicker to cut through a field off of the road And it proved to me that he definitely had no idea where he was and he was not in that space between Linden Marshall. No, I was, as I was reading this case, I didn't look ahead. So I was like, okay, I'm going to see if I can figure out if he was within that area first before I find out the real truth of whether he was.

He's not. And when I was looking at him, I'm like, there's no field that you can cut through that would be quicker than walking directly along the road. It just doesn't make sense. And he told him he'd them he could hear running water nearby. And I was like, where? Where are you hearing running water? What the fuck is going on right now? And he also tells his dad he had come across like he's like, oh my god, I just hit another fence line. And I have to hop that fence like a field fence. Okay. And he was frustrated having to cross them and I'm looking and I'm like, no, you didn't. Like no, you didn't.

If you are, we think you are. So as this is all happening, like many, many minutes passed with his father talking to him on the phone, Brandon just told him where he was walking and what he was seeing or hearing. And then all of a sudden, Brandon just yells, oh shit. And the call goes still. I mean, that's the other thing. In a lot of sources, it says the call goes dead. That's not what happened.

His mom confirmed later that the call did not go dead. That he just stopped talking. He said, oh shit, the call was still going. And he was, they were yelling for Brian on the phone like trying to get his attention. For Brandon. Oh, excuse me. Yeah. Brian is his father. Yeah. Brian and a net were yelling on the phone for Brandon trying to get his attention, but they couldn't hear anything. And they said, they thought they heard him fall maybe. Okay. But then they were like, what do we do? So they said they hung up the phone. They got the call dead because then they called back

Okay, because they said they thought maybe the The vibration or the sound of the phone or the life from the phone would either wake him up if he hit something Or it would if he had just dropped the phone Maybe it would see where it was But they kept calling and it kept ringing ringing ringing then going to voicemail so the last thing that did say was oh shit that was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. And I know it seems like a small thing to think about, but it's really not. But I'm like, has anyone asked them like, did he go like, oh shit? Or did he say like, oh shit? Or like, oh shit. You know, like, there's many different ways in what you would say that.

And it's different ways, different situations that would elicit a different oh shit. You know, like if somebody is coming up to you, you're gonna go, oh shit. Like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. But if you just like tripped over something, you gonna go, oh shit. Like what the fuck is that? Yeah. But if you just like tripped over something, you're like, oh shit. Yeah. But if you drop your phone out, shit.

Like, you know, it's deep. So there's little things in here that you're just like, I don't know. So initially, their thoughts were he fell. Something happened and he fell. Okay. And the phone went out. So to me, that says he's me.

He's saying it more like, oh shit. Like, oh shit. Yeah. That's what I like, so to me that says he's me. He's saying it more like, oh shit like oh shit Yeah, that's what I like oh shit like a trip to fall The amount of times we said oh shit. I know I feel like it's like this in meaning but frantically Brian drove all over that road searching again for But nothing I can imagine how they were feeling in this moment. So he gets a net again They call all of Brandon's friends, but no one has heard from him. Luckily all his friends joined them.

And we're like, we'll help look for him. Yeah, of course. And so they searched all night, but they found nothing. No Brandon, no car. No trace. Nothing. So 6.30 a.m., a net in Bryan called the police and reported Brandon missing at the Lion County Sheriff's Department.

And they actually went down there. And the police weren't concerned. Great. They just weren't concerned about the way. Yeah, they basically told them to chill out and Brandon was 19 years old and an adult. And one even said he had the quote right to go missing. He's 19 years old. You can do what he wants.

You're like, yeah, but the last thing he said to me was, oh shit, so I'm a little bit concerned. And ran his car off the road. Well, they basically were like, well, don't all 19 year olds disappear after calling their parents for help? Like what? I'm like, he calls for help.

So time was wasted. Time was lost to you. Thanks a lot. They ignored these frantic parents and completely didn't listen to the fact that this kid didn't just disappear. He was on the phone with his parents after calling his parents for help, right? Like, he wanted to be found. Yeah, like, this was not like, he left one day and like, we can't

find that. And he just never came back or he just like, you know, parked his car and left. And that was it. It's like, he literally initiated the phone call to get help from his parents. I also can't imagine the feeling of just being so desperate for help from the people that are literally put in place to help you and have them tell you, like, I don't know what to tell you. I can't imagine how frustrated I am. They're sitting there saying, well, he's an adult, he can do whatever he wants and it's like, yeah, I don't give a shit what you're saying.

This 19-year-old is still my child, right? It's my child who, he literally said, oh shit, and then didn't answer the phone again. Right. But they still didn't care. It took hours for them to convince them. I don't know how they did to finally get them to put him as a missing person and actually put some search into it. Wow.

That's sad that they had to, like, you should not have to convince the police to do their job. No. And of course time was wasted here again. Precious time. Like like the beginning of an investigation is the most important, have you seen 48 hours? And it's like, and Net and Brian, like they did everything they were supposed to do.

Exactly. I can't imagine how helpless they felt. No. Now the search and lens turned up nothing. They found him nowhere around land. Or the parrots. The parents searched again, the friends searched with them. The sheriff did finally get his ass in gear and they got the

cell phone records. Okay. From his cell phone. Now the ping showed that he was never near land. Okay. In fact, he was so far away. The ping showed that he was near Tonton, Minnesota, at the beginning, which was so far away. The ping showed that he was near Tonton, Minnesota, at the beginning, which was on the same route home from Canby on that Route 68. Okay. But it was farther away from where,

like where Lind would have been from the other direction. Yeah. Now the weird part of this is the time frames, like we were talking about before. Tonton was only about 13 miles away from Canby, where he would have started his journey. This would only take about 15 minutes.

Yeah. He left the party in Canby at midnight and didn't make that call about his car until close to 2 a.m. So what was happening in those almost two hours in a 13 mile stretch of road that should have taken about 15 minutes to drive? That's a lot of time unaccounted for it. So what was going on?

Do you know? We don't know. So now they go to the tonton area to search around noon and like they further find out through the later cell phone records that the phone actually later in that call series had pinged off a tower in Miniota, which was another town off of Route 68 on that of Minnesota. Miniota, Miniota which was another town off of Route 68 on that long stretch.

Minioca Minioca Minioca. And it's on that long stretch towards Marshall. Yeah. Likely, that is the town lights that he saw when he thought he was seeing Lent. Minioca. Minioca. Okay. This makes more sense for the fields and fences and running water he was seeing and saying that

it would be, it seemed like it would be a quicker way to that town because he could cross several fields off the road and actually the yellow medicine river crosses right between them. Okay. So at 12.30 pm they searched this new area and boom they find his car. Okay. So they found his car. It was indeed in a ditch somewhere in that area between Tonton and Miniotta. It was off the major route, so it wasn't right on Route 68. It was off. He had gone off that route. And it was down a gravel road called Lion Lincoln Road.

I truly wonder where he was going or coming from. It still doesn't make sense because he still got off of Route 68. And there was no reason. And there's just no reason. Because again, I also just don't understand where he thought he was. Like how he thought he was. Because he had lived in his whole life. Yeah.

And so they found the car in this weird area off the beaten path, not making sense for coming from Cambie to Marshall and not anywhere near Lind. When they looked inside of it, there's no blood, no real evidence that any kind of injury would have come from arriving in that ditch. And in fact, there was no damage to the car itself at all. That's great. No tracks also to see which way he walked from the car. And apparently the reason for this was the roads had been graded that morning before the car was found. And grading a road is using a big motor machine called a grater to restore the surface of a road. Yup.

And like the drainage attributes of said road, basically it fucked up any evidence of where he a road. Yup. And like the drainage attributes of said road? Basically it fucked up any evidence of where he had walked. And inside the car they did find one interesting thing though. They found Brandon's glasses. Oh. Uh, he always wore them. He was legally blind in one eye. Oh.

Why was he wearing his glasses? What? He would never take them out. What? Yeah. And according to the FBI website, his car was found abandoned in a ditch with the car doors open and keys missing. Interesting.

Two doors open. It's just says car doors open. Okay. Does this mean open as in unlocked or open as in wide open? No one is clarifying this. Because those are two different scenarios to me. Well, yeah, because it really, if it's saying doors open and they're meaning like a jar,

yeah, only one should be open. Exactly. But if they're saying like unlocked, then it makes sense that all of the doors It makes sense that the car like the car doors are unlocked because you're not necessarily gonna think to like lock all your car doors No, of course trend and just figure out where you are But if they're wide fucking open that's weird. What's that about and why the fuck are your glasses in there? Yeah It's like that's and I know his parents in his parents maintain. He was not

sounding inebriated or in no but everybody's. Everybody seemed to. And it's like say that. Why would he leave his glasses? It's dark. That's I'm not in a country road. Well, and I'm not even legally blinded. And when I and if I took my glasses off and left them in the car, I would have no fucking idea where I was going. That's the thing. You think of these country roads and I'll make sure to, I'm going to make little, like, I'll take pictures of the Google Maps so you guys can just get a better idea. Yeah. And we'll post the photos with this episode right away so you can look at them while you're listening just so you can have a better idea.

Yeah. But if you look at it, it's like these are very rural roads, like not lights no way Jose. And it's like, but I wouldn't even be able to see. I have pretty good eyesight. And it's like, I would be, I would not be able to see in this darkness. And it's like, he's legally blending when I literally wears glasses 24, 7. Right. He never took them off. It's like why, literally wears glasses 24, 7. Right. He never took them off. It's like why, why, one, why would he take them off and go walking into? Was he driving without them? Well, that was my next question. It is not like he got so lost. Exactly. It's like, is that why? But like, why would he not make sense? Because they're not saying that they're broken. They weren't like nothing like that.

So it's like, what, what is that about? And like, honestly, he probably would have, is that why he crashed or not, excuse me, not crashed, but is that why he ended up off the road? Like, I don't know, to me, it seems like he went off the road because he had turned down this gravel road. And it's like, not a paved road. So your cars are going to be slipping and having trouble gripping anyways, especially like, you know, like a Chevy Luminum, sure'm sure it was like, you know, it's not like an ATV vehicle.

Yeah, that is out of sedan. Yeah, okay. And so I think it's like, in fact, a friend of ours used to have a Luminum growing up and we named all our cars and we named it Bumana the Luminum. That was my fun little fact. That was my first thought, actually.

Bumana the Luminum. But this Luminum, I'm assuming he probably figured out like, okay, I'm going down the wrong road here. Yeah. And he went to do like a three-point turn. And it's probably a pretty narrow. I'm assuming what it looks like in the pictures is like the sides of the road kind of dip. Okay. A little bit like, you know, like gravel roads tend to. Yeah. And so when he went to do that three-point turn, one part of the car just slipped and couldn't grip the road anymore.

So he was just kind of stuck in a weird position. But it's like I was looking at luminance. Why was he down there? Like why did he turn off of Route 68? I don't know. That's what doesn't make sense to me. I don't know why he would come around the back way. No. Parts of his life going. Because make sense to me. I don't know why he would come around the back way. No

I was just going because I need to know So So there was a huge search now that they found the car that like holy shit like he's in this area Yes, and where is he so let's go find them So now the search went really like crazy. I thought I know that he's still missing person because I'm like still missing pretty big and they found and they found here like no, they did not. They used ATVs, they used helicopters, bloodhounds. The bloodhounds actually picked up a scent and followed it for three miles into fields and threw an abandoned farm. Oh, abandoned farm.

Yeah. No fucking thank you. They went towards the Yellow Medicine River and indicated that Brandon had it entered the river. This could have meant that he fell in, but it also could have meant that Brandon had it entered the river. This could have meant that he fell in, but it also could have meant that he crossed it or went in accidentally and still survived. Also, those same bloodhounds picked up that scent that went into the river, but then they picked it up again coming out of the river. So it seems like he did not end up in that

river and that was the end of the scent. So they searched the river now though, because obviously they have to. Yeah. Nobody. Okay. They searched the whole thing and not one piece of evidence that he drowned. Right. And investigators said there was almost no way he was in this river, like, ended up in the river because he would have washed up by now

and they searched it extensively. Right. And again, the dogs picked up another scent coming out of it. Now, I think in part two, we're gonna get a little more into this too, because there's a couple of places that they might have hit that people have like theories about. But the fact that the way that this river goes, he definitely would have washed up.

Like that's for sure. He would have washed up somewhere. They would have found evidence of him going into that river. They found nothing. And then the fact that the dogs picked up a scent coming out of the river. Like did he Did he fall in the river? And then he got out of the river and it's 40 and below degrees outside. Yeah, and elements. But if that's the case, we're the fuck easy. Yeah, where's his body?

He had to phone somewhere. He had to go, but then you're like, did he crawl somewhere and hide somewhere to like, but that doesn't make sense either. Like, where's his phone? Yeah. We never found the phone. They never found the phone.

They never found the phone. They never found the phone. It's like, where is all this shit? And why did he have a fucking glasses? I'm just like, That's the main question of why didn't you have your glasses? That's to me is like the weirdest indication of something blind and wanting.

Because legally blind. Again, like I can't go anywhere without contacts or glasses in and I'm not legally blind. I think I have like negative three, negative four. That's the thing. So they did use cadaver dogs who indicated that human remains were near mud creek, but they never found anything.

Okay. And then they officially searched for about a week. This was like a hard core search, like the ATVs, the helicopters, the clubhouse, the cadaver dogs. Then they had to stop the official search and family and friends continued though, and they continued for a long time. They found nothing. Nothing indicating he was anywhere.

And the official search started again in the fall, because they were kind of, I don't know why, they were waiting, but cadaver dogs were brought in again, and they got a scent into northwest of Porter, like his scent, and then they lost it. What? So it's like, what? So they suspended it again in the winter, because it's going to be hard to search in the winter, especially in Minnesota, yeah, which also sucks because it's like evidence is just canning,

fucking washed away at this. Exactly. And they ended up searching about 122 square miles between everything, nothing, not a shred of evidence. There were 500 volunteers. I mean, there were like dogs from several states coming in to do this work. I mean, everybody was going ham on this and that family did not rest. His friends did not rest. Nothing. And in 2010, two years later, it was handed over to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Investigation, and they became the leads on the case from there on out. They still, they kind of tried to focus on certain areas more, like those river areas, they abandoned farm, all that place.

Nothing. They were getting sense, and then it would just die out. It's like what he's learning around, what was going on, like where is he? And the fact that they searched immediately after this happened, right? It's not like this is like, he went missing two years ago, and now we're gonna try to find him. It's like, but then a matter of hours.

He wasn't decomposed, like he was there somewhere. If something happened and he had passed away that night, his body is there somewhere. Which is the fucking thing. Which leads me to believe that he did not pass away that night. That's what I, I'm like, what is happening? I can't wrap my brain around it. And that, I think we're gonna leave the actual case there

and we're gonna pick everything back up in part two so we can really get into these theories because I want to take our time and like really- I'm gonna leave me hanging with all of that. But I think so the things that have you know there's been things that come out about this case that like you know there was questions about whether a net was dropped off at home like between all this and all that because in one interview she said like no I was like on the phone when that happened. Yeah And I tend to believe her more than reports that probably got it wrong Yeah, and I think that's what's happening in a lot of these in in these cases that tense happen a lot as rumors

Or here say get put into official reports or people take them as that's really what happened from a net's mouth, and I don't know if it's, she's misremembering or that's what it is. She said she was on the phone when the oh shit happened. So maybe they were just like on the way to drop her off and then that happened. And that's the thing, what I think is like me, that was a very frantic night.

I'm sure a very stressful night. And pieces get lost. A lot of shit happened and maybe just timelines got through off a little bit. But I just wanted to mention that because a lot of things like, you know, how she said, and she said it, she was like, the line didn't go dead after he said, oh shit. And that's reported widely, which is annoying. I mean, I think even if you look at like, like the official like, like the Wikipedia page for this, which I'm like, can someone edit that? You're like, any edit that.

But if you look at anything for this case, they say like, he said, oh shit. And then the line went dead. And then the line went dead. But that's not what happened. And then some of them say that, you know, the father called, they called back and over and over. And it just went straight to voicemail.

Like the phone was dead. That's not true either. They said, both the parents said, nope, the phone, when we called back, the phone rang and rang and rang and then went to voicemail. Like it was still functioning. Yeah. And it's like, we know now that if you call a phone that is dead,

like the battery's dead or is turned off, it goes straight to voicemail. Yeah. But if it's on and working, it goes to the reason. It rings and rings. Right. Which to me has says something at least about like, because if the phone just

went dead, you're like, okay, did the phone die? And was he saying, Oh shit, because he realized the battery was dying. But that doesn't seem to be the case. But that doesn't seem to be the case, because it's like, did he fall in the phone fell? And like that would be even then it's like, but they were calling so like they were they had the right idea, like let's call, so like the vibration wakes him up or the lights or whatever.

Yeah. So it's like eventually he would see the lights if he wasn't conscious. Like you would see, because they said they called like five or six times over and over again in like quick succession too. I got it. I cannot imagine. The panic.

I can't fathom that. That must have been the worst. I keep, that's a nightmare. I really like as for panic. I can't fathom that. That must have been the worst. That's a nightmare. I really, like, as for anybody. For a horrific nightmare. And then also, if he fell into the river and the phone went with him, you would have heard that on the phone.

Yeah, definitely. Like the phone would have been like, like, a source underwater. Like that's exactly what it was. Like our first episodes. Exactly. It would have been exactly like our first episodes where everybody's under water. But they didn't hear that. No. They said they, I think they said they could like,

like it was a normal line. Like there was no chaos ensuing. They didn't hear a struggle. And had he dropped the phone and like never, never picked it up again, they would have found the phone in that area. Why didn't they find the phone? Because it doesn't sound like the phone went into the water because I feel like Brian and Annette would have been like, yeah, I heard some like static-y, like watery kind of, you would hear it.

Yeah. Or you would hear like, pull up, you know, like you would hear that sound. You hear some sound. Something would have indicated that it was muffled or under something, but it seemed like it was out in the open. And it seems like he got out of the water. Yeah.

So where's the fucking phone? How deep is the water? I don't know how deep that one. You know what I'm going to look it up right now. Okay, cool. So according to Minnesota's unsolved missing persons, it's a really good website for this. I'll link it because they're awesome. Let's see. The yellow medicine river is knee deep in some areas and up to 15 feet deep in others. Okay. So it would make sense that he could have waited through it. He definitely could have waited through it in some places. Because that was my question of like would he have to like full blonde swim or could he wait? Yeah. So and then I guess in other areas he would have had to swim. Yeah, okay, so it's all a matter of where he entered

It really is and that's the thing we have no fucking clue What the fuck all we have and it's what's weird too is all we have in this case is what he has told us and what he told He was telling his parents because he doesn't he didn't even actually know where he was He didn't even have his glasses on which also why I want to harp on that forever. Why didn't he, like he was telling his parents. Because he doesn't even, he didn't even actually know where he was. He didn't even have his glasses on. Which also, why? I will harp on that forever. Why didn't he know where he was? That's the thing.

Why did he think? And it's not like he was a little off. Like he was so off. Miles and miles and miles and miles. He was so off. And then I'm like, what happened in those two hours? Right. Because it's like, did you think you were driving that far?

Because you were just tooting around all these back roads and you're just like, but like, what were you doing? And how did you get that turned around? And you knew that you would have been lost because you drive this road all the time. I'm so confused right now. It's very people have theories for like the lost time. People do it like kind of, yeah. people have theories for the lost time. People do it like kind of, yeah.

There are theories for the lost time, but it's really a mystery. It truly is, because we can sit here and we will posture as like, we know what could have happened in the next episode, but like, we don't know. So spooky. And the fact that he has never been found is and

This isn't like you know because I think of like Bryce lost pizza. Yep, so that's a crazy one But that one almost has like so many more possibilities to it and this one it's like It's one area right and we can't find him. Right. His car was left. Like, where did he go? Yeah. Like, it was 40 degrees that night.

Where was he going? He didn't have a jacket on. It's just, I don't, where did he go? I just need to know where he went. It's just so good. So good. And his poor family just have no clue. And for them still to not have closure on it.

It's like, I am done. Now I'm like, I want to go to Minnesota. I want to search this there. Like, I want to find him. Just to give them closure on it. It's like I am done now. I want to go to Minnesota. I want to search this there. Like I want to find him just to give them some kind of closure. Crazy. And the fact that they were on the phone with him just makes it so much worse. Yeah. I can't imagine having that sitting in your brain for the rest of your life. Like that's tough, but they did everything they could. They were they were parents. They were good parents. They were coming to his rescue in the middle of the night. They did everything they could. But wow. But yeah, so we're going to talk about the theories next episode. If you have any theories

yourself that you if you've like looked into this case and you've like read anything or have your own theory, like feel free to shoot them our way. Yeah. You can send it to morbidpodcast.com and just morbidpodcast.com. .com? Wow. I was a QK. Honey, so I'm on cough medicine. Morbidpodcast.com. Gmail.com.

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his disappearance or where he might be, literally any information, you can contact the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office in Minnesota at 1507-694-1664. You can also contact Agent Derek Woodford of the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. That's at 651-793-7000 or you can contact the FBI ViCAP at 1-800-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-699-61-793-700 or you can contact the FBI ViCap at 1-800-634-4097 or ViCap-VICAP at leo-leo.gov. All right, well, we hope that you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird! But that's a weird thing you end up in the middle of nowhere and you think that you're one place and you're really not in that place and not so weird that nobody can ever find you again because I really want to find you.

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