Morbid - Episode 356: Spooky Lighthouses with Special Guests National Park After Dark Pod!
Episode Date: August 24, 2022We’re joined by Cassie and Danielle from National Park after Dark to chat some SPOOKY LIGHTHOUSES! It’s a bit of a round robin, back and forth kind of deal, Cassie and Danielle each broug...ht us a spooky lighthouse of their choosing to share and Alaina and I shared right back! This installment you’ll hear all about Seguin Lighthouse, Fairport Harbor Lighthouse, Terrible Tilly and finally the Boston Light! Keep your eyes posted for another crossover-collab with National Park after Dark on their feed and in the meantime check out their website:National Park After DarkInstagram: @NationalparkafterdarkTwitter: @npadpodcastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hey guys, today we did a little collab or I should say a big collab because it was long, it was a lot of fun,
and we are going to do it again soon.
Hell yeah, brother. We collabed with National Park after dark,
who is, which is hosted by Cassie and Danielle,
to amazing humans who we had so much fun with.
We're gonna be collabing again with them on their feed,
but today, you're just gonna sit and listen to us
do some lighthouse stories.
And they got some good ones.
They came to the fricking table.
They came just completely, like, more than prepared.
I'm telling you, there's, there's are so much better than ours.
I didn't say that, but they killed it.
And definitely check out their podcast.
We did like a little like campfire tail, kind of like round robin thing in
here. So I hope you guys like it.
And again, go check out National Parks After Dark.
They're really rad people,
and they have a really rad podcast.
Woo!
Hey weirdos, I'm Alena.
I'm Ash.
I'm Cassie, and I'm Danielle.
And this is morbid and National Parks After Dark.
Clown!
Oh, woo! And National Parks After Dark. Clown! We're here.
We're so glad to have you guys on the show.
We have Cassie and Danielle.
We have been big fans of the show for a long time.
As soon as I saw the name National Parks After Dark and the art for it, I was like,
okay, the art is so good for your show.
Oh, thank you.
We have to bow down to Cassie's friend for that.
She put that together.
Oh, cool.
It's so good.
It just draws you right in.
Really?
And just the subject matter.
It's a perfect subject to focus on.
Cause national parks are terrifying.
Well, there's a lot going on there.
There's a lot going on.
Yeah, I mean, we kind of just as like a brief background to probably everyone listening who is like, wait, who? What's going on? So
Cassie and I started this podcast a little over a year ago because we love nature and being outside in the outdoors and national parks, but we also love dark history, morbid,
content, all of that true crime,
and it just kind of morphed into this,
and it's been a wild ride, and it's so,
I hate to say the word fun.
Fun is not the word.
I know it's so hard to describe.
It's very intriguing and it's interesting
and we found a lot of people really like it too.
So here we are.
Yeah, it's crazy to know that you're walking
into a national park and you're standing
in the same spot that all this crazy dark
amorbid history has been.
And you're like, oh my God, this happened right here.
It just like hits you all of a sudden.
And you would never know.
Like that's the thing.
Most of this stuff is so hidden, so hush hush.
You're just walking into beautiful nature.
You have no idea that like this awful atrocity happened here
or like there's some crazy cryptid hanging out
in the woods somewhere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, every once in a while now that you like,
you have a train die. you'll look at a little plaque
or like a little information sign
that you may not have looked at before
and then all of a sudden it's like in memory of
and then it's like, oh, there was a second.
It's just grizzly attack.
Yeah, right.
Like, oh, all right.
And a plane crashed right here.
Right, so heavy, too. Like I feel like you can just feel that crashed right here. Right. So hard.
So heavy too.
Like, I feel like you can just feel that when you walk in,
like you were saying.
Oh, yeah.
That's so heavy.
But it's really.
Well, we get a lot of people that are like,
I felt really weird here.
And now I hear this story.
And it all makes sense.
I didn't even think about that.
That some people probably listen.
And I'm like, OK, like validation.
No.
Yes. I knew something was weird there.
Also, it's like, it's great because there's the flip side to the coin, right?
It's like, it's dark and it's sad and sometimes it's scary.
But then you open your eyes and look around and you're one in one of the most beautiful places
in the world.
Exactly.
And it just brings a bigger appreciation for where you are.
And it's just, it's great.
So we love it all.
And we're glad that it's bringing people closer to nature
in a really, really weird way.
That's the only way.
Like a closer to nature just weirdly.
Yeah.
So yeah, so we're doing some spooky lighthouses. Yes. So we're so excited
for this because people have been digging the spooky lighthouse series and it's been really fun
to do because I didn't I mean you don't think about lighthouses that much and we just didn't
realize how many lighthouses there are in the entire world and how almost all of them are haunted
or something awful happens. Every lighthouse is creepy.
Handstand everyone.
Yes.
And they all have some like phantom animal in them or phantom human in them or the light
keeper just won't leave.
It's always that.
The light keeper is there to stay.
Yeah, it's a full, like, it's a committed job.
Like you are not leaving.
Or all of them really. Life you are not leaving. Or all of the remaining life and death.
Exactly.
Correct.
And by, I think when is like the newest constructed lighthouse?
Because I know.
With new technology, you don't, they're going,
they don't need keepers.
Yeah.
Right.
They're being like automated now.
Which always bums me out.
Like whenever I see in my research that's like,
and then like keepers were taken out of there
and now it's just an automated lighthouse.
I'm like, no!
That's so fun.
Because now it's not gonna be a haunted.
You guys are gonna love my story then,
because my lighthouse is still run to the stage.
Oh, yes!
You knew.
You brought it to the table.
I love it.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know that you were doing that one.
We each brought a lighthouse today.
So you're getting four lighthouse tails today.
Yes.
So you guys got to strap in for the long haul.
And I think, I think Ash is going to start us off.
I'm ready.
Let's go.
All right, we're going to go to Seguin Lighthouse in Maine.
Okay.
And for a lot of this research,
I read a book
called Haunted Main Lighthouses by Terran Plum.
Thanks, Terran.
Yeah, chapter five, if you're interested
in this particular lighthouse.
So Segeen Lighthouse very fittingly
is located on Segeen Island in Georgetown, Maine.
And it's the second oldest lighthouse in Maine.
And the first oldest one is the Portland Headlight.
But the water surrounding the Seguin,
or the Seguin Lighthouse is known to be very, very rough.
And when the area was first settled on about 13 years
before the Mayflower even landed,
the settlers really had no other choice,
but to set up where they did
on what would become Pompom Beach.
They actually named the land after captain George Pompom,
who was captain of one of the two ships
that all the settlers had arrived on.
He was either the captain of the gift of God or Mary and John.
Not quite sure. It's all so biblical.
It's very difficult.
I think wow. Right before the Mayflower.
So that makes sense. Yeah, it does.
But since the area was so hard to live on,
nobody really lasted that long. A lot of people got sick. Unfortunately, a lot of people passed away,
and they all decided to sail back to England after just a year on the island. And I got...
And it's rough. Yeah, it is. Seriously. The water is around there before you land.
We can say that. Yeah, we jump with that again. And I feel like the Native Americans were probably like,
yeah, we could have told you fuckers that,
because they had actually named the island
before anybody had even settled it,
and they called it,
Subquinn, which translates it to,
Place where the sea vomit.
Wow.
Yeah, descriptive.
You know that's gonna be a pretty rough area.
I love, that's a great description.
Place where the sea vomit.
Like not where the sea empties out or anything.
It's like no, it just vomits.
Yeah, it's far from you.
Because that's probably exactly what it looks like.
Like you've just crossed the ocean to the place
where the sea vomit.
Yeah, welcome.
Welcome.
Exactly.
So after about 100 years, after the first settlers
arrived on the island, people started
talking about the need of a lighthouse,
because this area is like super, super foggy.
It's actually one of the fogiest places in the country.
And so the fog's rolling through.
They're super rough waters.
They're like, it would be a good entrance light
to let people know where the hell they even are.
And it could also serve as a safety measure, it'll prevent a lot of the shipwrecks
that they knew would happen quite frequently because it was already happening.
So in 1786, an official petition was put together, and 55 men signed, and then they brought
that petition to the general court of Massachusetts because Maine actually didn't exist yet and would
not for another 34 years. So it's like, that is so wild yet and would not for another 34 years.
So it's like, that is so wild.
Yeah, it is.
When I saw that, I was like, oh my god, there was a time when Maine didn't live.
Like, oh yeah.
Who knew?
But the petition stated, the island's again seems to be designated by nature for this purpose,
being situated at the mouth of the Great River, Kennebec, and being in excellent direction,
not only for that harbor,
but likewise for the harbor of Falmouth, Booth Bay,
Wakasset Point, New Meadows, and Harpswell.
Your petitioners think that if there was a light
upon the silent, many vessels would be saved
from shipwreck and many persons persevered
from immature deaths.
Okay.
And do you know who gave the go ahead
for this lighthouse to construct this bad Larry?
Who did it? President George Washington. Oh, that guy.
I've heard of him. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard a little something about him. He's a little familiar in
my research. He was in Hamilton. Yes. That's what it is for your roommate. Yeah.
So the lighthouse was officially built in 1795. over the years there's been two huge renovations.
In 1819 they just straight up removed the original tower and they replaced it with a larger stone structure.
And then in 1857 they rebuilt the entire lighthouse again and that's the one that still stands today.
So 1857 to today.
Crazy.
It's always the second go around.
They never stick around for the whole.
Yeah.
It's always like this one is the third one.
Let's be in this side.
It'll be a charm.
Poor lighthouses.
I know, right?
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So there's a lot of stories about the light keepers who have lived and run the lighthouses
over the years, but there's a few major stories that you'll always hear when you bring up
the Gain Lighthouse. Now the first tale comes from the US Coast Guard who was staying in the lighthouse in 1985 when they were dismantling the light and unfortunately we were just talking
about it. It was going to become automated. So I know like who? Yeah, RIP, right? So part of the
process in like dismantling the light and getting the place automated, they wanted to take the furniture
from the keeper's house and kind of relocate it, probably put it in storage, which is so sad because it was probably so historical.
Like what is cool to look at later?
I know, no one cares about cool antique furniture anymore.
Come on.
What the hell?
But one right here.
Right we'll care.
We're here.
So one officer was sleeping after a long day of work, and all of a sudden he wakes up
to his bed like violently shaking.
And he gets brave enough to finally open his eyes
after a minute of just shaking bed.
And he sees this apparition at the end of the bed,
dressed in oil skins, like the fish-dick guy
or the guy from now and then with the big yellow coat.
I'm not gonna lie, when you first said that,
I was like, what the hell, the image that flew into my brain
was like this giant eel just standing up
to the end of the bed or something.
I ate right, I was like, in oil skin, like what is that?
I didn't, I had no idea where you were going with that.
I was like, I don't even know what.
I'm like, what's happening?
When I first read that, I was like oil skins.
What could that be?
And I googled it and that like yellow rain jacket pops up.
And I'm like, oh, the fish stick guy.
I get it.
That's the coolest thing.
That's the coolest thing.
Yeah.
A little less weird and dark than what I was thinking.
Great.
And then I was like, if you don't like fish sticks,
you have to like the movie now and then.
So you'll recognize that.
That's very true.
But anyway, so he's dressed up like that.
He's at the end of the bed, shaking the damn thing.
And then he just yells out at the man, don't take my furniture, please leave my home alone.
Oh, and vanishes.
Don't take his furniture.
That's what everybody was saying.
They were like, why would you take his furniture then?
Oh, he likes the antique furniture too.
He does.
He likes the way he set it up, you know?
Oh man, I feel like he's like,
it's like in Beetlejuice when they just have to watch
their house be like turned into the shirt, but like modern house. Yes, that's him. He's like, it's like in Beetlejuice when they just have to watch their house be like turned into the Sherp Hold.
Like modern house.
Yes, that's him.
He's like, I don't want this.
I know you watch that.
And you're like, does that really happen?
Because that'd be such a bummer.
Oh God, I know.
I would hate that.
But you just have to watch people destroy your home.
Yeah, like a lot of here.
And do you know in here?
Get you know the case worker in on it, honestly.
So the unfortunate thing though
is that the ship with the furniture
had already even loaded up
and it was leaving the island to the next morning.
Not cool.
But, strangely enough, the ship that was carrying
all of the furniture that obviously
belonged in the keeper's house sank
as soon as it was lowered into the water.
Oh, that's somehow sadder.
It is sadder, but you're like, did he make that happen?
Is like a, I don't know why he would want to sink his furniture,
but I think he was just mad.
It's like when a toddler goes to a pepper can't throw him.
No one can.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's what I was just thinking.
I was like, you know, he saw it going and he's like,
well, I can't stop it now.
Oh, wait, I can.
I'm a ghost.
And he just, there it goes.
He was just like, whatever.
Can't have that anymore.
Nobody can have it.
But the weird thing is that people who visit the lighthouse
now, while you can spend the night, I guess,
or there wasn't a point in time where you could.
And they'll hear the furniture being moved in the night.
And it sounds like somebody's rearranging the entire place.
And then they wake up, and everything
is just as it was.
Like no, changed at all.
Spooky.
Oh, super creepy.
I would also be so annoyed if I woke up in the middle of the night
to like a renovation going on.
I'm not happy.
You have to be like, be living in an apartment in your upstairs
neighbors at 3 a.m.
Yes, moving their couch in their holes.
Yes, right around.
It's like, excuse me.
Somebody lives in the low U.
He takes a broom and hit the ceiling.
The ceiling.
The top, yup.
Oh god, I am almost like crashed through my ceiling
in the first apartment I lived in doing that,
because it was like not well constructed,
but they were so loud, so it was necessary.
They deserved it.
Yeah, they should have.
So broom is right through their kitchen floor.
Just like in hell, somebody's foot by accident.
You're loud.
That'll quiet you down.
So the other hauntings, or this one that I'm about to talk about, is somehow more terrifying.
So there was another keeper back in the day, and this was back in the 1800s.
There's also like no proof that this ever happened, but I say it did.
I believe you.
I trust you.
I believe you.
I trust you.
I'm the authoritarian on this lighthouse.
Okay, I've never been there, but I know.
You just feel it.
So this story says that there's a keeper who's moving in
and his wife really loved socializing.
She was like a socialite.
So she's like, I'm gonna miss my friends
and I'm gonna miss going out all the time
because again, the water is really rough around here.
She can't leave that often.
And especially in the winter.
It's all the same.
There's a lot of vomit.
Vomiting all upon you.
She's like, I'm not really into this
but her husband was like, well, I need a job.
So this is what we have to do.
So realizing that his wife needed a distraction,
the keeper was like, I'm gonna get her a piano
and she can learn how to play piano.
So she starts and it was really the only thing
she could do throughout the day,
other than cook, clean,
and watch the water vomit onto the table.
So can we really blame her for becoming obsessed with learning how to play piano?
We look queen with a hobby.
Yeah, she just gets hyper focused.
I feel that same.
I do the same thing on things I like.
Yeah, she just loved it.
But there was one problem.
She only knew how to play one song.
And apparently, she loved that song so much that it was the only song she would ever play.
Dianne, Dianne, same song on loop.
I can blame her for that.
I'm blaming her.
Because that's not.
I feel like that was almost a little like dig.
Maybe she was trying to get out of there.
I think that she was like, I'm a socialite and I'm telling you I'm sad.
I'm not going to be able to go out on the town.
And you bought me a piano to play solitairely in my home.
She actually just got to learn one song
and I'm gonna play this one song
until I drive you absolutely mad.
I feel like it was like...
This was our torture for her husband.
Yeah, it definitely was.
I think this was like a passive aggressive long game.
She learned FU by Miley Cyrus on the piano
and played the instrumental version only.
Wow.
I actually couldn't find what song it was, but anyway.
So she's driving her husband absolutely crazy.
He's like, please, maybe I could get you a book of music.
You could learn another song.
It will be wonderful.
You're so great at playing this piano,
but I'd love to hear a different song.
Stop torturing me.
She was like, now I love this song, man.
Miley kills it.
So he gets so irritated and so nuts over it.
That one night, he grabs an axe
and he just starts demolishing the piano,
rips the thing to pieces, and she's yelling at him,
and he's not done yet.
He takes the axe to her.
Oh, over-action.
And murders her.
Whoa. And then he eventually killed himself after. Some people say that he did so with the axe to her. Oh, over-action. And murder her. Whoa.
And then he eventually killed himself after.
Some people say that he did so with the axe.
I'm not really buying that.
Logistically.
Logistically, I don't think.
No.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like, explain to me how that happens.
Another means I'm going to say.
Yeah.
But people who visit the lighthouse today
say, or even if they're like in a boat near the water,
they'll hear that same melody playing.
Ooh, spooky.
Super weird.
And other people say that you'll still see
the keeper roaming around the grounds,
still carrying the axe and covered in blood splatter.
Oh, that's a ghost I do not want to come in.
No, no.
Especially not as the sea is vomiting in the bathroom.
Oh, that's just like over stimulation too much. It really is.
And the direction you go.
Oh, he over and over and over.
Oh, that song replaying the ocean vomiting and then this guy covered in blood holding an
axe. I'd be like, no, what's that called? It's like, it's going to be an entire horror movie.
And literally, honestly, they should shoot one there. That's a good idea.
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and she'll wave and smile.
But then people will be like, oh, whose kid is that?
And they're like, what kid are you talking about?
And then they're like, oh, that's the little girl.
Like she's not real, she's not on the same plane as us.
Now, I love how casual that.
Oh, she's just on a different plane, everybody.
Yeah, she's feeling kids so weird.
No worries.
Yeah, it's totally fine.
So the people, yeah, there are people who claim
that the little girl was actually buried on the island
and that's why she haunts the lighthouse.
Dark.
But I'm not sure how true that is.
I think that people might have the story confused
because there was once a keeper, Walter F. Stevens.
He was the keeper in the late 50s into the early 60s
and he lost a daughter while he was working there but it didn't happen like at the on the lighthouse grounds. He was with the coast guard
and he was stationed to man the lighthouse and he so he couldn't leave when his wife went into
preterm labor. And it was September of 1959 and his wife Mary had to travel into Bathmain and
get birth. But unfortunately her and Walter's baby didn't make it,
and they named her Linda Joe,
and they buried her in Oak Grove,
cemetery in Bathmain.
Oh, okay.
And there's like a little marker to like remember her.
But I kind of wonder if like her little spirit
stayed with her family at the lighthouse,
and I don't know how she grew up over time there,
but maybe she did, and then she paused,
and she just said, I want to be able to go forever
and hang out in this lighthouse.
I mean, that tracks.
I think it's mad.
Yeah, it seems legit to me.
I don't know who else this little girl could be
because I was like looking through records of deaths here
and no little girls died in the lighthouse.
Yeah, try and think a term.
Maybe she was just,
Well, there is something about little kids haunting places
because by nature, kids are awesome.
Like cute, fun, lighthearted, but when they're a spirit, it's just it's
creepy.
Like with Cassie and I stayed at where did oh the crescent hotel.
Ooh, yeah, we stayed there and like out of all the ghosts.
There was a ghost child.
I'm like, if I see this ghost child, I'm gonna shit my pants.
Yeah, I can't.
Anyone but the kid.
Yeah, anybody but the kid.
That's exactly how I feel.
I hate ghost children.
It freaks me out whenever somebody says,
like, we stayed at the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River.
And they told us we were sleeping on the top floor
in like this attic bedroom, which already was like,
whoo, no go. They showed us a room and I was like, which already was like, ooh, no go.
They showed us the room and I was like,
I was like, this is gonna work.
But we were like, sure, yeah, totally.
And then we were like, weird,
there's like a little trunk with toys in it.
Like, what's that about?
What's that about?
And the Lizzy Board and House.
And they were like, oh, there looks like a neighbor kid.
What was the story?
It was horrible.
It was like, there was a horrific...
Yeah, there was a few children that lived next door
and they died in like a brutal house fire.
And I think some of them must have been running
to like the Lizzie Board and House
to get away from the fire,
but like, didn't make it or something,
and that's how they ended up over there.
Yeah, and it's, so they leave toys out for these kids,
and they'll say like,
the kids will play with the toys,
and like, roll balls in the middle of the night,
and we were like, nope, like we were just like,
I'm out, we literally stayed in the living room
downstairs awake all night.
We were like, we're not sleeping in that room.
We abandoned that room with like those kids playing toy,
playing with toys to sleep on the couch
where Lizzie like allegedly murdered her father.
So we were like, this is better.
I mean, you have to choose, right?
You have to choose. That's that's how much I am not into ghost kids. So we're like, this is better. I mean, you have to choose, right? You have to choose.
That's how much I am not into ghost kids.
So just so creepy.
But they do say that kids in just like spirits in general
will go back to a place where they were the happiest.
So maybe this little girl was like from somewhere else
and she had just visited the lighthouse
and that's how she ended up there.
Or maybe she was like the kid of like one of the families there
and she didn't die in the lighthouse.
She just really liked it.
Yeah, yeah, you never know.
Who knows?
So that's just like heartbreaking and sad. So we'll finish it off with the fact that
serpents might be lurking beneath the waters in front of the lighthouse.
Okay.
In front of the vomiting lighthouse.
Serpents in the waves.
Yeah, that's why the sea vomits because the serpents are like making it a little nauseous.
Yeah, they's why the sea vomit's because the serpent are, you know, like, making it a little nauseous. Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
Motion sickness. Is it a serpent, like, snake, or are we talking, like, champ or nessie,
serpent? Like a sea serpent. Like a sea serpent. Like, definitely like, nessie. Okay.
I was picturing small ones, like a shark NATO, like, I'm not going all of them. And they're
just like, this is a big guy. And this happened in 1875, a that. And they're just like, ding, ding, ding, ding. No, they think this is a big guy.
And this happened in 1875.
I capped in, and I guess there was only one member
of his crew, so two dudes.
They claimed to see a 130-foot-long serpent.
That's big.
That's a big boy.
That's a big thing.
That's a big boy.
He just popped his head over the side of their boat.
And now here's the thing.
That's adorable.
That's what I said.
That was my first response.
Is that 130 foot long serpent was probably adorable,
the fact that he pooped his head over his brain.
But they didn't really think so.
I think he was just saying hi.
Maybe he was gonna eat them.
But before asking what he was there to do,
the captain hit him with a pike and scared him off.
Luckily he didn't like kill him.
You should just say like,
kind of sir, what brings you here today?
Not how I felt.
But another report of a serpent comes from the morning herald
and that stated quote,
the monster was lazily floating along the water when cited,
occasionally lifting its head to look around
and appeared to be making itself at home in that vicinity.
Could for him.
And I'm like, it just seems like he's having a best life.
Yeah, it's not hurting anybody.
He just wanted to say, what's up?
I love that he just booped his head over.
I just think that's so cheap.
I don't know why I'm getting so many visuals
from your storytelling.
Oh, great job.
But, because I just pictured this like floppy ass serpent
just like, boom, like just flopping up.
It's like, hey guys, like a hey guys, we're looking for head scratches.
Exactly.
And just plops.
That's what I was thinking.
I would give him a little scratch behind the ears.
That'd be like, can I have a ear?
Go on, you're sleepy.
Go make this e-bomb it again.
Now we'll finish it off with a couple of honorable mentions.
One goes to a man simply referred to as old captain,
which makes sense. He's apparently like a really grumpy old dude. He will like move things around
if he doesn't like where they are. He'll knock your coat off the hook where people hang their like
coats or hats up. He'll literally just knock them down to the ground just to be rude. And some
people still see him working around the lighthouse. So at least he's putting work in. Yeah,
so be it.
He's probably just mad that he has to work for all of
he turn it in exactly.
And then lastly, honorable mention goes to the foghorn
vibrations, which are so intense that they literally
eat seagulls out of the sky.
Oh wow.
The seagulls out of the sky because they're so intense.
Just punch sky rats out of the sky.
Yeah, you know how the keepers will leave a log of things?
The sky was raining it down.
He was like, at one point, there was just 50 seagulls
laying at the foot of the lighthouse
because of the vibration.
Just knocked him down.
Just knocked.
They were just knocked out.
Yeah.
You know, I hope they live.
Hopefully it's quick.
It's just.
Yeah. Wow. So that is the Gain Lighthouse's quick. Yeah, it's just. It's just like, no. Yeah, wow.
So let us again lighthouse guys.
Wow, it's the game brought it.
Remind me to never go there.
Yeah, never go there.
Or let's all go together.
Like yeah, get only together.
We're gonna sleep in the lighthouse
with the furniture moving around.
No, we'll go for a day trip guys.
I would sleep in the room where the guy was like,
don't move my furniture because I'd be like,
listen, let's sit down.
That's the way to talk.
I agree with you.
Like, I'd be like, you can tell me you're woes.
I get it.
I would like to furniture.
Yeah, I'd be like, I want that old antique furniture.
Let's get it.
We can pull like a Titanic.
Yeah, let's go.
Oh, this seat just vomits up a couch.
Yes.
Like this sick Victorian-looking couch. Yes! Like this sick Victorian looking couch.
I really love it.
Yes, seriously.
Perfectly preserved.
Thank you.
And one's upright.
It's a piece offering.
It is.
It has brought you this.
I've regurgitated this too.
Yeah.
Have your couch back, sir.
Just take off that ugly yellow coat.
Yeah.
Your fish skin.
What is the oil? skin. Oil, yeah.
Oil skin.
It just wrote that like we were supposed to know.
I was like in oil skin.
Yeah.
What?
Just keep weird visual smell that did.
I'm just glad it's not what I was pictured.
Me too.
Because I was like, wow, that's a lot scarier.
I got that.
I looked it up right away.
I was like, what am I about to tell them?
And I was like, okay, that's fine.
It's about to get weird.
It's like we're getting out.
The yellow rubbersuit.
We got it.
Yeah.
You know?
Way better.
Way better.
Okay.
Do you want to go?
Am I going or do you want to go?
Cassie.
Yeah.
I guess I do have a little intro to our National Park lighthouses.
Do you want to go?
Let's just go for that. All right, so we are going to be covering
lighthouses within the National Park system. And we'll kind of, I, I, um, kind of dragged that
out a little bit. But while when you hear National Park Park immediately, like a lot of people's minds goes
right to, I don't know, like Yellowstone, Zion, Yosemite, like these big, huge expanses of
protected wilderness that you can go visit and hike and camp in. And while we love places like
Yellowstone and Zion and Yosemite, the National Park System is actually so much more than that. In the US,
alone, the National Park Service has over 400 units. So this includes not just wilderness places,
like those parks I just mentioned, but there's historical parks, there's battlefields,
there's parkways, late shores, monuments, like there's so much that the National Park Service has up its sleeve.
That's so cool.
I know that really is. I didn't realize that either.
Yeah, in New England,
they're so like when you think of New England,
for National Park, what do you think of?
Oh God. Oh no.
I am so bad at this.
Oh, Lord. I didn't study.
Borderless.
When you have that nightmare where they ask you like they're like pop quiz and you're like
ah and then I'll send you're naked okay okay I'll give you a hint okay it's in Maine in
this park is in Maine and I'm gonna feel real stupid when you say the name of it. I have a sweatshirt that says indoorsy, so I feel like I'm exempt from this assignment.
Okay.
It's on, there is a lighthouse in it.
There's multiple, so it's on the ocean.
And it rhymes with,
Shmishmedia.
Acadia.
Yup, nailed it.
Got it.
Nua was gonna feel dumb when I heard that.
Wait, that's actually hilarious because I know a girl
that just named her daughter that because she loves
a park so much.
I can't believe I didn't think of that.
And we just talked about that yesterday
because she was literally just born.
There it is.
That is really cool.
Right?
That's a really pretty name to a lady.
I know, isn't that a cool thing to do?
I think they're gonna call her Katie for short.
Yeah. I love that. it that a cool thing to do? I think they're going to call our Katie for short. Yeah. Oh, I love that.
Well, inspiration. I'm like slightly mad. I'm not named that.
I feel like way to such mom change your name.
So well, good job. You got it. Look, we got it. Nailed it. Nailed it.
So amongst the protected areas than the national park system, there are nearly 50 lighthouses within the park
system itself.
Oh, wow.
So obviously, we know that lighthouses were originally
constructed to help aid sailors during stormy weather
and poor visibility conditions.
But even when they are no longer
needed to fulfill their primary duty, they hold a huge amount
of historic and cultural value and the National Park Service
wants in on that and they want to preserve that.
So Congress passed the National Historic Lighthouse Preservation Act in 2000, which basically
creates a process for the U.S. Coast Guard to transfer ownership of different lighthouses
that were deemed no longer necessary over to other federal agencies like the National
Park System. And fun fact, if that process happens and the National Park System is like,
eh, we actually don't want this lighthouse, they will be put up for sale. So you can buy them.
Oh, what? Let's get a light house. Let's all buy a lighthouse. Let's name it. Fish maybe. Oh, okay.
Let's not buy a lighthouse.
Planned aborted.
Yeah, so if you have a couple million laying around in spare change, just go on and
spy light house.
Lighthouse.
Yeah, I love that.
So some eccentric millionaires just going to be like, oh, all right.
Sure. Are you happy? I do. I'm sure there So some eccentric millionaires just gonna be like, oh, all right. Are you happy?
I'm sure there are some privately owned lighthouses that are just like a wild Airbnb or something.
That is so cool.
And someone who's really into creepy ghost stories because there's no lighthouse that
doesn't have some type of stuff.
Yeah, you have to want to be haunted.
Oh, no lighthouse.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Yeah.
Well, business idea, like TM.
There you go.
Off the coast of like around Salem-ish.
Yes.
Oh, that'd be perfect.
Haunted house tour.
TM.
So TM, TM.
So we chose Cassie and I chose Lighthouse's obviously, but I chose mine out where I am right now in the West Coast.
So I chose a Lighthouse that I've actually been to, kind of, again, stretching to come.
So I am going to be covering the Tillamook Rock Lighthouse
and her nickname is Terrible Tilly.
Oh, love that.
Terrible Tilly.
So obviously similar to like my real life
from the East Coast, but drawn to the Pacific Northwest.
So let's go.
My obviously, it is a bit of a stretch.
It's not part of the national park system,
and I haven't actually physically visited
Terrible Tilly, but I saw her.
I saw her, though.
Okay, you were there.
From a national park.
There you go.
There you go, connection made.
Okay, yep, let's explain this connection.
Okay, so essentially, I was gazing at her from afar
when I was on a trail that's managed by the National Park
Service.
So as far as the trail that I was on,
it's called the Lewis and Clark National Historic Trail.
And I kind of want to ask you when
you think of a National Park Trail, what you think of.
And I just from that last conversation,
I feel like you're not gonna know the answer.
You're gonna get a great answer.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. You know, any little parks, like state parks that I've been to? And I'd say it's like, you know, wildernessy.
There's dirt, there's dirt, there's rocks.
I'm gonna say there's some trail markers along the way
or in shape, perhaps, orange tape.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's a marker.
There you go.
I can do it.
I can do it.
The most widely known trail in the National Park System is the Appalachian Trail.
I know that one.
Yes.
There we go.
We're getting somewhere.
See?
Connections me.
This is great.
So, the AT is about 2,000 miles long.
It goes from Georgia to Maine.
But the one that I was on, the Lewis
and Clark National Historic Trail, is a lot longer. It's about 5,000 miles and it goes from
Pennsylvania to Oregon. Oh wow. Yeah. So it's not a continuous dirt trail like the AT is. It's
actually a combination of trails and roadways and the National Park Service proposed it in the 40s.
So it follows along the original expedition route
of Lewis and Clark.
Oh, that's cool.
Love that.
Yeah.
So obviously I didn't do all 5,000 miles.
No, I don't.
I'm too.
We want reasons.
Why not?
So I did about two of them and we were in and I my partner and I we were at the very end of it where it ends on to the sea in the Pacific.
And that's when I saw Terrible Tilly. There she was. So there she was. There she was. I don't know if you glory. So when I first saw it, I was like, what is that?
Because it looks like, obviously, it was a big rock
and there was like a speck on it.
And I used my zoom lens to look at it.
I'm like, oh, shit, that's a lighthouse.
And it looks creepy as hell.
I don't know.
I need to know more.
I needed to know more.
And this was like, this was over a year ago now.
So I was right. I found out I was right
so
As far as terrible tilly goes she was built quite a long time ago as all lighthouses are
She began construction in 1878 when Congress appropriated about 50 grand to help aid navigation of this particularly
dangerous area of the coast. So this area is renowned for its unpredictable weather and dangerous
sea conditions, and it's dubbed the Columbia Bar, but that's because there's a bunch of bars
and shows at the mouth of the Columbia River where the river meets the sea. So it's super tumultuous.
at the mouth of the Columbia River, where the river meets the sea.
So it's super tumultuous.
It's very rocky coastline.
Like when you think of a beach,
you're not thinking of the right thing.
There's no sandy, some bathing here.
Yeah.
Nope, very much like Acadia, actually.
A lot of rocky, rocky coastline.
So it's actually also known as
one of the most dangerous bar crossings in the world.
There are over 2,000 documented shipwrecks here and more than 700 people have lost their lives here.
It also marks the southernmost location of the graveyard of the Pacific, which stretches from
this location up and north into Vancouver Island. So this solid basalt rock that is towering
about 100 feet out of the sea just over a mile
off of the shore was chosen for this lighthouse,
despite beliefs by the local indigenous communities
that this small island in the Pacific
was cursed and riddled with evil.
Ooh.
That's always the case.
Yeah.
Everybody's always like, hey, that is evil,
and it's not going to be a good place to build something.
And everyone's like, let's build something.
That sounds great.
Yeah, probably not that bad.
Yeah, okay, how about we don't do that?
We've been actually avoiding that place for thousands of years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we've successfully kept the evil over there.
Can you just not touch it?
You can't do a mess with that.
And we're like, nah, that's fine.
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for indigenous communities like sea lions and sea birds. They all made a home there,
so it was really tempting to go there and utilize that, but because of the evil and the bad juju,
they avoided it. So they know horse, they always know. They always know. So despite the warnings,
construction went forward and right off the bat trouble began. Yeah, they told you you didn't listen.
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There it is.
There it is.
That's day one.
So it's like that's the old man.
Yeah.
That's like the first strike.
Oh man.
Not only is that day one, that's like minute one.
It wouldn't even let you step foot onto it.
Yeah.
Like hopefully.
Like maybe turn around and go home.
Yeah.
Go get a snack.
It'll be good.
The terrible tilly does not give warning shots.
Like she's like, uh, nope, like you're not even getting on the
island. She's like, no way.
Yeah. So the local workers were shook, obviously, because they
had already heard about this longstanding bad jujus surrounding
this rock. And now that immediately someone has already lost their life,
they didn't want anything to do with this construction.
So they actually had to go to surrounding communities
to find people to work there, to calm people.
And literally they're like, oh no, it's fine.
It's totally fine.
So they finally get a crew together in construction
begins in October of 1879,
which seems like such a terrible time
to start construction in October.
Yeah.
Off the coast of Oregon,
because this is a rock that's a mile
and have out into the ocean.
By god.
It's hot on the shore.
Right.
So it's like finally the winter.
Really, yeah.
This is a great evening.
It's a great evening. Yeah. It a great evening. It's already terrible, some of the worst weather in the world is here.
Like, what are we doing?
Yeah, what's happening here?
They decided it was a good idea and they went forward with it.
They built supply houses in a mixture of just different wooden and canvas shelters on the rock.
And blasting began because, of course,
this rock isn't flat because why would it be?
So they had to use dynamite to just obliterate
the top of this rock.
No, wolf.
So many bad things happening here.
So they use dynamite for months just to get it flat enough
to start construction.
Like, oh, man.
They really want the slate house.
They need it bad.
They were not listening to any of the obstacles
that the universe was putting in their way.
Like, the universe was literally like,
what about this? Maybe you'll stop.
No, okay.
No, let's just go like everything happened.
The next thing.
Yeah.
Yep.
And then the crew members had to kill all the sea lions
to make way for the for the lighthouse.
No, I'm out.
So they killed all the sea lions and then all the sea birds
are like we're staying clear of that.
So now this once lively rock,
this big place for like all these sea creatures
and birds, now it's totally it's dynamite.
It's just a it's bad. Oh, that's awful. No,
it's like desolate. Yeah, it's awful. It's desolate. Everything's disrupting. No, it's human.
No, it's human. It's representative of a lot of things, I think. Yeah. I'm now looking at it. So
and it's small. It's only about an acre large. Oh, so tiny little place.
And it's small, it's only about an acre large. So this is a tiny little place.
The living conditions were miserable.
The long hours of heavy labor cramped living conditions,
limited rations, constant sea spray,
incessant foghorn blows, sweeping winds,
and the constant dampness made for really low morale
and very high tensions.
Because again, we were talking about the same song
over and over.
It's like the fog horns and then the sea spray
just imagine consistently getting.
Oh, I could not handle that.
I would be so stressed out.
No, it's like when I went tubing
when we were in New Hampshire,
and the Berkshires recently,
I kept getting sprayed with the thing
and I was like getting so annoyed
and I was doing something fun.
So I can't imagine that happening with like manual labor involved.
So four months into construction, a storm rolled in that caused massive
relentless waves battering the island.
So it's not just sea spray anymore.
It's huge massive waves combined with the torrential downpours and the strong winds
that often reached over a hundred miles an hour
After several exhausting days of this storm rolling in and trying to battle the elements finally
The men called it after that. They're like we're trying their holding. I imagine them holding like something in a hundred mile
I'm holding onto some pole
So they called it the super
intended finally said, all right,
let's just punk her down for a little bit.
They get inside their shelters.
And as the weather worsened,
the waves were so powerful,
they were slamming into the rock
and breaking off these huge chunks of like this sized rock
hurtling through that
air. Oh, there were so many warning signs. How hard those
waves had to be for until like chip rock off of an island.
Chip rock off of a rock. Yeah, off of an actual rock. Like
damn, slamming into the shelters. And of course a lot of
them are in this canvas
sided shelters, the tents. So they brace themselves inside for more than two days trying to wait out
the storm, which actually clocked in at Hurricane Force. So they finally come out and thankfully,
all the men were accounted for. No one had lost their life. However, the storm had demolished
many of their structures.
A lot of what they were working on,
they swept away all of their tools,
all of their provisions and their fresh water tank.
Wow.
I feel like I'm out, guys.
It's not supposed to be their guys.
Yeah, he is.
Just imagine being in a tent during a hurricane.
No.
No.
Like, normally you want to be in a basement or something. Yeah, in a 10 during a hurricane. No. No. Like, am I doing something?
Like, am I doing something?
Like, am I doing something?
Like, am I doing something in a tent?
Yeah.
In a 10 o'clock on a rock in the middle of the ocean.
In a hurricane.
In a hurricane.
It's not ideal.
Yeah.
This is probably fine.
So the storm re-lented, but it hadn't ceased, meaning that it wasn't safe for help to
reach them, because, again, they're a mile and a half out into the ocean.
You can't just get on a boat and come up and help them.
So they're stranded and the storm keeps going, keeps going.
And the men were stranded on this island for almost two full weeks or anybody was able
to help with no fresh water either or food or food.
Good.
How did they survive it?
How did you not just like jump on water?
Rain, my God.
Oh, wow.
And that's the end.
Wow.
That's it.
Wow.
For your troubles.
Rain, water, for your troubles.
So I do a pay back then, too.
Oh, here's a nickel.
Yeah, with air.
They like, like, when they they like they're like yeah yeah
it's not even money it's just like a circular piece of tin.
Don't like carrying it all in one place.
It's like a shilling. Yeah. So a construction continued because why not we found this far
and on day 525 which will exist due January 3rd of 1881, just 18 days prior to its actual completion,
tragedy struck again.
The British ship, the Lupiata, was navigating through a storm.
The winds were shocker, really strong.
There was a thick fog hanging above the water. And unknown to the crew on the ship,
they were dangerously close to the rock. On Tillamok Rock, a small group of the crew heard voices
through the fog, and they saw like a faint red light through the darkness and the fog, and they
rushed to go to the tower because the towers complete, but there's no light there. Oh no. So they're putting their lighting lanterns and they started bonfires on the rock trying
to get the attention like, Hey, you're too close. You're going to hit this rock. Yep. And
they were shouting and trying to get the attention of the crew, but it was just too late. The
ship smashed into the shallows. And as night gave gave in today it was clear that there was no hope for the ship, the lupiata or her crew.
Twelve bodies washed up onto the beach and four of the crew members were never recovered.
But there was a soul survivor found on the beach shivering and exhausted for over a mile paddle to safety through the rough waters.
And it was the ship's dog. and exhausted for over a mile paddle to safety through the rough waters.
And it was the ship's dog.
Oh, I love the dog.
It does the dog die.com.
Yeah, no, no.
I'm curious.
No, soul survivor.
I read it was like a sheep dog.
That's exactly what I pictured in my head.
I pictured, you know, as soon as I read that,
I thought of Max from Ariel, the little mermaid.
Oh, yes.
Oh my god.
Oh my gosh.
The shaggy dog.
That's exactly what I was thinking of, like shaggy.
So cute.
Because it also survives a shipwreck.
Yeah.
That dog is hearty.
Yep.
So 18 days later, after this disaster, on January 21st of 1882, Tillamuk
Wright light was officially lit and at the time it was the most expensive light
house to be built on the west coast and that was coming in at around 112 grand
which is about 3.2 million today. Like keepers were assigned to duty, but for much shorter rotations than the typical
professional length of stay, because it was so rough there, the living conditions sucked.
No one wanted to stay there for a long period of time. So they only stayed about two months at a time.
And one of the keepers, Thomas Jones, slipped and fell 35 feet while painting the light house and lost his life.
So she claimed another life.
And as the decades went on, so too did the storms and relentless onslaught of nature, which would often ravage the entire island, smashing the lighthouse, its windows and its entire structure. In 1934, the worst storm on record pummeled the entire Pacific Northwest.
It sent boulders flying into the lighthouse,
smashing the lens of the lighthouse,
flooding the building, and bringing in fish
and debris from the ocean,
all the way into the lighthouse.
Just getting there, just like,
a fish flying through the windows.
Oh my God!
Like a fish and a boulder just come flying through windows. Oh, okay. The light house keepers
like, oh, dinner. The waves were reaching over a hundred feet
above the lighthouse. Wow. 100 feet above the water. That's
horrifying. If you look up, if you Google Terrible Tilly,
there are classic pictures of just going
like these waves ravaging this entire building.
Oh, mind if I do, I have to see.
Go ahead, you gotta look.
You gotta take a good look.
Oh my god, no thanks.
So the lamp was replaced after all of the smashing about and it remained operational for another 23 years before the Coast Guard shut it down in September of 1957, expensive lighthouse in the country to maintain. Wow. She's getting a lot of records. She's an expensive.
She is expensive.
Yep.
So Terrible Tilly was bought and sold
to several private investors throughout the years.
Like I said, you can buy lighthouses.
And it changed hand several times.
For example, in the 70s, a general electric executive
actually bought and repaired the lighthouse
in hopes of using it as a second home. Like, I know.
Like, it's set up camp here. Yeah.
Great place.
The kids to play.
Only spent one night before changing his mind.
I bet.
So this is awful.
I was even lasted a full night.
Yeah, terrible idea.
So he changed that real quick.
So maybe the TM like, TM like,
maybe we shouldn't do terrible, Tilly.
Oh, and Tilly, not.
On TM that.
And even one time she was featured as a luxury gift
in the Neiman Marcus Christmas catalog.
Oh, you're kidding me right now?
So really, Tilly.
She's all looking at her.
She is.
Wow. Really? Tilly. She's all looking at her. She is.
Wow.
Most recently, it was sold in 1980 to a real estate developer named Mimi Morcetti, who
gutted most of the lighthouse and converted it into a columbarium named Eternity at Sea.
And a columbarium is somewhere where you house earns.
Yeah, but honestly, kind of the perfect place.
Kind of.
But are they gonna like smash when all the waves go through
and the boulders come through the window?
I forgot about that.
This is like the safest place.
You know what, I'm looking at a very tranquil picture
of it right now.
No, it's like, that looks great.
That would be crazy to do that.
Yeah, and the picture I have of it,
because I took a very nice picture of it
and she looks pretty good. She does look good. I got her on a good day.
So Mimi, her whole goal was to create this repository for up to 300,000 earns.
She's saying, I don't know what awareness we have after death, but if there is any awareness, I can't think of a more beautiful or romantic place as I view the Oregon coastline
and the wildlife flying by.
I can.
And I've never even been there.
Like I get the vibe, like I get that feeling,
but I'm like, do you remember that this piece of rock
is like super cursed to know and evil?
And this is like this treacherous as fuck.
That's not nice.
No.
And you can't even go visit.
Like, yeah, you can't even go visit it easily. No. And you can't even go visit. Yeah. You can't even go visit it easily. Right. Yeah.
Like a calm resting place. No. Visit your loved ones. It's like you might die, but go ahead.
You can go ahead. Yeah. Go try to think of, bye. Go surf on 100 footway.
So she was somewhat successful in her goal, but due to a lot of legal battles,
her license to operate was revoked and terrible tilly is once again sitting abandoned.
As of today, there are still about 30 earns that are inside of the lighthouse.
It's so obvious.
Slowly being returned to the elements. And the sea has continued its slow destruction of the
lighthouse. Birds have flown through the windows again, sea lions have pushed their way back inside through the rocks.
Looking at a picture of a bunch of them just lounging them.
They're back and they're better than ever.
They're back, baby.
There's periodic flooding of the building as high waves repeatedly hammer the rock.
And if you're thinking like, oh, like, I'm kind of sad for
Tilly, you know, she's been through some shit. And, you know, again, you're like, maybe
I want to start my investment in terrible Tilly. You can totally buy her as of March of
this year, 2022. She's for sale for six and a half million dollars. Oh, guys, you hear
that? I'm surprised they're not just giving her to people at this point.
Just take her.
Just say someone.
Take someone.
Please.
So she has some drawbacks.
She still has 30 urns.
Yes.
No electricity.
No drinking water.
No sewage system.
Ooh.
She needs some major renovations because, you know, sea lions.
Yeah, you know.
And of course, she comes with some paranormal activity
as well.
And you might die on the way there.
There's also that.
Yeah.
Honestly, just give her away for like a cheesecake gift card
or something.
Like you got a cheesecake gift card,
you can have terrible to eat.
She's your worst.
So almost all reports of paranormal activity
come from previous keepers, workers or members
of the Coast Guard.
However, every year beachgoers looking from shore have also reported some sightings to
the Canon Beach History Center, as people every year have reported seeing full body apparitions
of people walking around the rock or the light shining from
that it's long abandoned tower.
Other reports from previous employees include seeing
go ships up here and disappear even on clear nights surrounding the rock.
So no trickery with fog. They see full-ass ships coming by and then disappearing.
That would be awesome.
I feel like that one would be awesome.
Because you just feel like,
look at that ship and then it's just gone.
And you're like, wow, okay.
There's not like personal interact.
Exactly.
I'm like, that was just an experience.
That was fun.
Yep.
And you can't really,
you're like, I just saw a whole last ship.
Yeah, that was a flutter in the corner of your eye.
Like, we cannot mistake this.
That was a ship.
I just saw.
There's been mones, whispers, and chatter.
They're hurt throughout the tower.
And one previous keeper reported being chased and even pushed down the stairs by an unseen
force.
Oh, rude.
One former employee, a US Coast Guard member named James Gibbs, had one of the scariest
nights of his entire life
in a lighthouse. He was asleep when he was awakened by a noise, unsure of what he heard
and kind of writing it off as just the sea doing its thing outside of his window.
But then he started hearing footsteps like the heel to toe, heel to toe.
Across this dark room because again, heel toe. No. Mm-hmm. Across this dark room, because again, no electricity.
Oh, no thank you.
And it was coming in his direction.
He was freaked out, starting to panic.
And then he felt a little flutter on his face, like a cold.
He described it as originally a cold hand.
Oh, that was true.
And that was it.
That was a lot of stuff.
Oh, out of bed. Out of bad rush
towards his little light lantern
on the other side of the room.
Flipped it on. If that's what you
do for him. He's flippin' on.
He's cranked it really fast.
He shook it.
He's totally expecting to see this
ghost of this long dead
marinara or someone from the
shipwreck. But what he saw was a very alive goose.
That is amazing. I did not know we were going there.
I could have had it.
Stroped his face. It just like rested its bill upon his face for quite a second.
What it did is it had injured its wing and like flew into the window somehow and got
an in because obviously there's like busted windows everywhere.
Oh my god.
And it got in and it was like flopping around so that was what the footstep is.
Oh my god.
And then he had a little like his wing fluttered across his cheek.
So his tearful name became a pet for him or something.
I don't know.
There was no follow-up on the good.
So let's hope.
So let's all believe that that became the resident goose.
That terrible tilly doesn't have a cat or dog or whatever.
It's a goose.
A goose.
So terrible tilly stands and is now part of the Oregon Islands National Wildlife Refuge
and it is also listed on the National Register of Historic Places which is managed by the National
Parks Service.
Oh, there he is.
We're like tying it in here.
Full circle.
So, visitation is prohibited without explicit permission and the island can currently only
be accessed by either a boat by the Coast Guard
or a helicopter because there's a helicopter landing pad now. And you never know if it's going
to be clear or not because all the sea lions are home now again on the air. But if you ever find
yourself in the seaside Oregon area or head out onto the beaches with a pair of binoculars
You better take a good look at terrible tilly because she's quite the site and you never know what you may see
Oh, I want to see terrible tilly so bad. I do too
I also love that you just like ran into her one day
You know, just like what's up with her? You said it in counter. I think I maybe
texted you, Cassie, because as soon as Ian and I got back into the truck, I'm like, I just
have a weird vibe about that lighthouse. And I looked, I did look it up and I saw that it was
at the time it was the Column Barrier thing and there was a bunch of stuff about the news of,
you know, burying your loved ones out there. But I didn't know that she had such a dark history
and she had so many problems.
And she might even be cursed.
So maybe you were feeling some like curse.
She was, you were cursed.
And just looking out there.
About that.
Oh, cursed one hundred.
Definitely.
You don't even have to ask.
She's cursed.
The indigenous community always knows
they always warn white people.
And this is what happens.
It's true every single time.
Like this isn't true. Yeah. It's fine. It's true every single time. I think that this isn't true.
Yeah.
It's fine.
We just ignore it every time.
And then everyone dies.
Exactly.
I just like, well, we tried, but you're already in so.
A resounding theme.
Truly.
We're really spunking around and finding out.
We always are.
Yeah.
And just to look out at it and think like there are over 30 earns just sitting there.
She's dead people.
Just there it is.
That's a long, it's a lot to wrap your brain out.
That's so dark.
It is.
I know.
I have no idea.
She has got to look at.
She definitely is.
She's pretty.
Yeah.
It's not terrible tillie's fault.
She's got to wrap it down.
You're not a bee there, you know?
Yeah.
She's like, you know what, I didn't do this.
She really is cool.
I was gonna say there's some like beautiful photos of it.
Yeah.
Like I was staring at the one, that's why I was like,
this would be a beautiful place to put earns
because I was like, the one where it's like surrounded
by sea lions, like just crawling up the sides of it.
I was like, that's beautiful.
I love it.
Not at all threatening. Not at all threatening.
Not at all threatening.
Oh man.
Well, I'm following up that amazing one with one
that I started.
And I was like, wow, this is interesting history.
And then I realized that we really just have a ghost cat here,
but pretty interesting.
Why am I not about that?
I mean, I figured you would love it.
I did.
You know what mine's the little palette cleanser
between all the dark things.
On the horrible.
Perfect.
I got a little palette cleanser for everybody.
Who doesn't love a ghost cat?
Who doesn't?
Who among stuff?
Like Zachary Banks.
Zachary Banks.
The best ghost cat.
Who else?
That's such a crush on Zachary Banks.
She was just gonna ask you that.
I was gonna say who else?
Who else was like a factory bank?
I will follow you into the unknown.
Oh, at the end when he walks away,
I was like, take me with you as a kid.
Oh yeah.
So I'm doing the Fairport Harbor Lighthouse,
and it's in Ohio.
Now it's located in Fairport.
Why can't I say Fairport?
Fairport. It's because you wanna say Fairport. Why can't I say Fairport? Fairport.
It's because you want to say Fairpoint.
I think I do.
Yeah.
It's located in Fairport, Harbor, and it's near Lake Erie, which I love Lake Erie because
it's called Lake Erie.
And I feel like it's just like, you gotta be spooky.
They don't spell it, right?
But it's okay.
It's known as, quote, the light that's shown for 100 years,
because this lighthouse has remained pretty original.
Like, it had to be rebuilt a little bit,
but it's like one of the original ones,
and it looks it, I will say that.
She's showing her age a little bit.
It was built in 1825,
and the Keepers House was also built at the same time,
which didn't always happen, I guess, sometimes.
They would just build the tower, and then they would build the keeper's house after. The builder
was Jonathan Goldsmiths and in 1841 he actually applied to become the keeper because he was
like, well I built this. Can I manage it maybe? And they were like, thanks so much for building
this, but no. And they gave it to somebody else. Like, whoa, rude. Yeah, that's not cool.
I was like, I don't know, give them a probationary period
to try it out.
Yeah, you got 30 days.
He builds it.
See what you can do.
Give Jonathan a try.
It's essentially his, you know, like he made that.
It is.
And he asked nicely, he applied.
And they were like, nope.
Now, unfortunately, like I said,
because we can't have nice things,
it had to be rebuilt in 1871 because of structural issues,
which like fine, I guess. Now, in Haunted Lighthouses, the book by George Stites,
Carol Bertone, who is a volunteer at Ohio Fairport Harbor Lighthouse and Museum, which is still
there today, you can visit it. She says the lighthouse, quote, this is our castle like in Europe. They have castles and we have lighthouses.
I love that.
Which I love carols just like this is our castle.
Like it's like such a bold claim.
I love it.
They have castles.
We have lighthouses.
It's not as regal.
Not quite, but you know,
it will take it over here.
It kind of makes sense when you really think about it.
We're like America, it's fine.
Now the lighthouse actually, this is really interesting.
The lighthouse became a safe haven as part of the underground railroad, actually.
Oh, wow.
Which I had no idea when I first started researching.
The people of the town of Fairport were against, were very against slavery and very open about
it.
And a local tavern owner, and by most sources, the first lightkeeper of the house was Samuel Butler.
And he was voted as a chairman of a group that
was going to rally against the fugitive slave act in 1850.
And they wanted to make a safe haven.
They wanted to be part of abolishing this.
And he would organize hiding places all over town,
including in his tavern and in this lighthouse
for runaway enslaved people.
And he organized them to hide high up in the lighthouse.
So like, if people came around,
because they were literally coming around looking for them.
Right, and so he would hide them like way up there
because no one's coming up there.
Good look.
And so it kind of became like a beacon of freedom too.
It was like, it became like way more than what it was. So that was like a cool
part of its history. And after the lighthouse was rebuilt in 1871, a civil war veteran Captain Joseph
Babcock became the first keeper of the newly rebuilt lighthouse. Now he and his wife Mary lived on
the premises. They were adorable. I found a picture of them. They were just like these two
like elderly, just adorable people. Like there's just a picture of them. They were just like these two like elderly just adorable people
Like there's just a picture of them just not smiling
Just looking like mean mug right at the camera. You're like, I just love your energy
That's such a theme for all
It is now one smile. No one's not there so pissed off
And I get it but it's horrible.. It should suck. Just like I get it.
But he looks really spiffy.
He's in like a hat.
He's got a big bushy muts mustache.
And she has that giant hat with like the big flowers on it.
Yes.
Just like they really do it.
Like real goals.
These two.
Just angry standing by each other looking great.
And they moved in there with their daughter, Hadi. and then they had two sons while they were living there.
Now, unfortunately, in 1889, they're very young son.
I think he was around five years old.
He died of smallpox.
Oh, no.
And he died in the lighthouse.
So there's that.
But he doesn't haunted.
He doesn't.
Weirdly.
He is not the ghost cat.
I love it.
Yeah, he's not the ghost cat.
No Robbie.
No Robbie sightings that we heard.
But his other son, Daniel Babcock, was actually his assistant and later became, actually took
over as head keeper.
Oh, cool.
And I think until 1926, so it's cute.
I was like, father and then son.
Keep it in the fam.
But unfortunately, they never really got where able to get through Robbie's death. It was like kind of unimaginable, which of course
it is. Now Mary Babcock, his wife, was obviously devastated and she was in ill health anyways,
but she became even more in ill health after this and eventually was bedridden. Now, she
was lonely and bored because she really couldn't get out of bed. So we got her a piano.
She did not. He did one better.
He did one better.
Because she started keeping cats as company.
Like, Straes would come in and she would like,
befriend them.
And her husband Joseph actually did not like cats.
He was not a fan, but he was like, she loves them.
So we're just gonna let them hang out on our bed.
Like a school fan.
It's kind of sweet.
What a good husband.
He's just like, I hate cats, but you love them.
So that's fine.
So one day, he found a gray stray cat in the basement.
And like, it had just gotten in through like some,
you know, everything sucked back then.
So he was just, just, just gave, like,
strolling in from the ocean.
I'll just stick it for him.
Yeah, just whoop, a game in.
And he was like, you know what,
she'll probably love this little gray cat.
He was cute and he seemed friendly.
So he brought it up to her to her bedside
and she immediately fell in love with this cat.
Like immediately fell in that day
just bonded right away.
It was probably a mix of just like
that's a good solid cat.
And also that her husband who didn't like cats
was bringing her cat.
I feel like that would make me love it even more.
I'd be like, this is so cute.
That's a love language.
First, that is.
It's got to be.
Bring me a tie.
I hate this, but I hear you go.
But here you go.
That truly is a love language.
It truly is.
And she named him Sentinel, and they were, I don't know.
And they were separable.
To love.
But like, right.
She, one of the things she, all the other cats just kind of played on her bed, and then
they would like hop off and go somewhere else. But Sentinel stayed with her at night and like snuggled her.
It was like a real, it was real bond.
That's like Frankie.
Now unfortunately Mrs. Babcock did end up passing away.
And when she passed away, the cat vanished.
Completely vanished. They never saw it again.
They searched everywhere. It never came back.
Could not find it.
Now, we roll forward to the 80s, the 1980s.
Where shit gets crazy when I was born.
And then a woman named Pamela Brent came
to live in the apartment of the lighthouse
to work as a permanent overseer slash curator of the museum.
Now, as soon as she started moving in,
she kept seeing things out of the corner of her eye. And
then she noticed that it was a gray cat that would run across
like a room. And she was like, yeah, this is my house, like
everything's locked. It's the 1980s, like things are sturdy
or now, how is this cat getting in my house? Like I can't
and she didn't know any animals. She couldn't understand it.
But she said she kept seeing it. She walked in understand it, but she said she kept seeing it.
She walked in the kitchen.
The cat would run across the kitchen.
But she said at times it felt like it would run across an almost vanish into where it was
going.
She couldn't tell where it would end up.
And she said, quote, then one evening, I felt its presence when it jumped on the bed.
I felt its weight pressing on me.
At first it kind of freaked me out, but ghosts don't bother me. They're part of the bed. I felt it's weight pressing on me. At first it kind of freaked me out,
but ghosts don't bother me.
They're part of the world.
I love her.
I was like, yeah, Pam.
She's like, I don't give a shit.
It was weird, but whatever.
No, I don't give a shit.
Which to be of like, that must be the gray cat
like snuggling with the owner,
like thinking that she'd back in bed, totally.
Now, after she left, staff would sometimes see
the same gray cat running around.
And you would think maybe it's just a stray
and they're seeing it, but they would say the same thing
that they never could catch it.
They could never see where it ended up.
And sometimes it looked like it would just vanish
in the center.
And they were like, we don't know what this thing is.
It's weird.
They would also hear mows and hear a little skittering
of paws and they just couldn't figure it out.
Hair balls from time to time.
But since paws are so cute, they really are.
The sound of cat paws are the cutest thing.
I mean, it's like a pad pad pad pad pad pad pad pad pad.
It is really cute.
It's not the annoying clicking of my dog's nails that drives me insane.
It's true.
That noise really is annoying.
I love them, but God, yeah, the cat paws are really cute. dogs nails that make drives me insane. It's true that noise really is annoying. Yeah.
Love them, but God, yeah.
But low-possess.
That bad pet is really cute.
I will give it that dog person,
but I gotta say, your cats are like top notch.
Tell you how to run there and top notch.
We're at it one more to the bunch.
And actually that's weird,
because we want to get a great one.
There you go, you can get sentinel.
Okay.
Because whenever he shows up too,
whenever they see this like cat that just vanishes into
an air, sometimes they say they'll also hear the voice of a woman.
And they'll hear like whispering of a woman.
And they think that this might be Mrs. Badcock hanging out with her pal in the afterlife.
So whenever they see the cat, she's just playing around with the cat now.
Like she's not better than anymore.
She's just playing with the cat.
Yes, forever.
Forever. Which I hope that's the truth.
I feel bad for Joseph Badcock in that case,
because he hates cats,
and I hope he doesn't have to spend
eternity playing with the cat.
Maybe he like grew used to sentinel though.
Maybe he did.
He seemed to like that one.
Yeah.
I don't like cats before we had cats,
and I'm about to have three, so.
There you go.
They don't worry on you.
They totally do.
Like I like hers.
I like hers.
You did.
We do that a lot too.
Whenever we go on a Zoom, we actually didn't do it this time,
but usually we go, hello.
At the same time in the same inflection.
And we don't mean to.
So it's like we're doing better, saying.
Well, we love cats to an extent, but we also are veterinary
technicians. So we will. Yeah. Not so great side of cats. Yeah.
Let me get real mad because they don't want to shot. Yeah. We see how fast
they move in those clouds. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's are the best by the way.
Yeah, vet-tacks are the best, by the way. Vetex are the best.
We had to be, because when our dog Bailey had to be put
to sleep at the end of last year, it was like devastating,
but the vet-tacks were just like our saviors in that moment.
I will forever sing the praises of Vetex.
Arvetex, how to lift a couch, because I got Lux out of his carrier at one appointment
and he is like super skittish, especially around men and it was a man.
And so he skidded under the little couch and they had to call in to vet techs to lift
the couch to get Lux from underneath it.
So I love that text too.
So vet techs for the win.
Well, on the top of many jobs.
True.
On behalf of all vet that text, thank you.
You're welcome.
You do have many jobs because I was like, me and my husband were literally like snot crying
on our vent text shoulders.
Oh, like grief counselors as well.
That's where we were.
Why do you wear scrubs?
There you go.
Yeah.
That's it.
I was like, I'm not a regular scrub. There you go. Yeah. I was like, I'm so sorry.
No, no.
Recently in 2011, which isn't super recently, but recently enough, it feels like it was
like four years ago.
It was like 11 years ago.
Whoa, that's really wild.
So the company who worked, they were like renovating some of the heating and electric systems
in the lighthouse and in the keepers area.
And the company who worked on the electric and plumbing
for the renovations was Smith plumbing.
And they found something while they were working
on this place.
Don't tell me it was something else.
That was so sad.
Pretty interesting.
No.
So this guy, the guy who owns the company.
Oh, sorry.
I'm just like,
I'm imagining a mama's hide.
Time's an all.
So, um, this guy named Brian Smith, he owns the company.
He was climbing up into a small, great type air duct situation
to install some air conditioning.
This was in the basement.
He found some shit.
My dad's an electrician, and I'm a failure here.
I'm still like that air duct, air great thing.
I don't know, electricity happens there.
Either way, he says he found
what is possibly Sentinel the cat. Now in the haunted lighthouses book, he is quoted
as saying quote, this is about where it happened. He aimed his flashlight beam over to where
it went. And he said quote, I noticed something odd on the left side of my head in the great.
I turned slightly to see what it was, staring right back at me was the face of a cat.
It was obviously very old, looked at me like it had been,
looked to me like it had been there for at least 100 years,
but the teeth were still intact and its ears were standing up.
It was a cat, all right.
It was a bit, you know, spooky,
pretty frightening, actually.
So the cat, yeah, he's like,
I shot myself.
Completely mummified.
How?
And is on display at the museum currently.
You can see Sentinel, the mummified cat,
which I was like, let's go.
See Sentinel, the mummified cat.
Oh, you said it's in Ohio?
Yeah.
We're going to Ohio.
We are.
So we can go see this mummified cat.
I'd like to.
And people.
And people. We have to because this, I think this is Sentinel and mummified cat. I'd like to and people pictures
We have to because this I think this is sentinel and people think it is
I believe it because they said the activity has gotten less like prevalent after this which is weird
Maybe he was trying to be found. Well, they think he's at rest now because they were took him out of wherever
Got some notes now. Well or could like maybe maybe he went there to be alone.
You know, the animals will do that sometimes.
Cats especially.
Yeah, so paranormal investigators have come to this place
a bunch and they do get things about the cat.
Oh, meows.
On their thing, they have gotten meows in EVBs.
It's like that, the commercial where it's like meow, meow.
Literally meow mix.
Yeah.
They have one paranormal investigation team or it's like meow, meow. Literally like meow mix. Yeah. No. They won Paranormal Investigation Team,
bought like a ghost box, like the thing where it like,
we'll say it words.
And they asked the question,
are there any ghosts around here?
And the ghost box said spirit of Babcock.
Oh shit.
Which like damn.
Okay, like very specific.
Right?
There it is.
Yeah, like what's going on?
And this other group called the Ohio Researchers
of Banded Spirits, they went there in 2009,
and they spent the night there, and they said they actually
did catch audio of a woman's voice.
They couldn't figure out what she was saying.
And they also heard a distinct meow on the audio.
That's beautiful.
And it's like the cutest haunting
this side of the Mississippi.
I agree.
Like, truly the cutest.
And on top of this, every Halloween,
they tell this story.
They have like a big event
where they'll tell this whole story
of Sentinel the Cat and other spooky tales.
They serve wine and cheese.
Oh, I'm there.
And then they do a moonlight climb
to the top of the Lake County Tower.
I actually, I'm gonna just...
I would end it right after the
one and she's like a really cool.
Awesome.
Doesn't that sound awesome?
That really is.
I love when they will play into these things
like during Halloween time.
You can have these cool little tours
or like just really play into the lore.
I love it.
And that's awesome.
That is the the mummified ghost cat.
Sentinel. Fairport Harbor lighthouse. I. I love that's my kind of haunting
if it goes just gonna hunt me let it be a cat sent in all the cat. Let it be sentinel.
I mean sad for that what you said electrician. Yeah. Who found it, you know, like not a fun discovery. Startling. So, and like right next to his head in a dark spot.
Right there.
I feel like electricians are always fine.
I mean, I follow this page called Things Founded Walls.
That's an amazing one.
I'm gonna go ahead and follow that afterwards.
I'm not following that.
Best, it's the best.
And it's like, it's usually construction of like,
you're renovating a house or whatever.
And there's like old, tiny things like. like you're renovating a house or whatever. And there's like old tiny things like.
Oh, I love this.
That's cool.
So it's like, Sentinel was a thing found in a wall.
Oh, yeah, truly.
He was.
He was.
Technically a thing.
Found in a wall.
Yeah.
Well, I guess going into my story, since we've been all over the country for all these lighthouse stories.
I'm I'm real in it back and we're going to Boston.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
That was a perfect way to end it too.
We're shipping up to Boston.
Going to Boston.
And we're going to Boston Harbor National Recreation Area, which is right outside of Boston.
Yes.
And kind of like Danielle mentioned at the beginning,
the National Park Service serves as a lot of different avenues for a lot of places. And national
recreation areas are designated for recreation activities. So like hiking, camping, swimming,
wildlife viewing, fishing, boating, all those kind of things. They throw it into a reservation area because
they also want to preserve the area.
Ah, that makes sense.
Yeah. Yeah. And that's exactly what Boston Harbor Islands National Recreation Area is. And
national recreation areas, a lot of times they're located outside of urban populated areas,
because it's a way to set aside a place to be like, okay, we're right next to a huge city, but we have all this wildlife, all this cool stuff here.
Let's preserve it. Yeah, like let's not touch that.
Let's let that be. Let's learn from history.
We've heard literally everything else.
Like we took over all of Boston here. Let's let's save a piece.
Let this have a moment. Yeah. And it is comp, it is comprised
of 34 islands and it also has the oldest lighthouse in the United States, which is the Boston light
on Little Pared Island. There she is. There she is. Another lighthouse. And not only is the Boston light part of the National Park Service, but it is also deemed a national historic landmark.
And it was established as that in 1964 because of its history and its age.
It is, like I said, the oldest lighthouse. It was built in 1716.
Oh, wow. That's insane.
All right. So, yeah, you got us all beat.
You got us all beaten.
Yeah.
You were all in the 1800s and I'm like 17.
And you're like, yes.
You think you know what?
You're so close.
I was so close.
And this is the typical like picture-esque New England
lighthouse.
It's on a rocky coast.
It towers 60 feet high and it's made of rubble stone.
This is the only lighthouse in the US that is still staffed by the United States coasts.
Hell yeah. It's not automatic. There's still someone sitting in there right now.
Oh, that lightkeeper is probably so awesome.
So awesome. I hope to you. Shout out to that keeper.
Shout out to her. It's a woman.
It's a man.
Yes.
And I hope that she's having a better time than the stories I'm about to tell.
Oh, no.
You know what?
I don't even know the stories.
And I hope you're having a better time.
Same.
So this lighthouse has seen a ton of history.
And it's also seen a ton of tragedy and it's
also said to be cursed.
Oh, two cursed ones.
Look at you guys.
We're getting all the crazy stuff going on in these lighthouses.
I love it.
So it started, it was built in 1716, but a man by the name of John George, who was a prominent merchant in Boston, he originally
petitioned for the Massachusetts General Court in January of 1713 for the Lighthouse to
be built.
And he stated that it was necessary, the coast was too dangerous, the ships needed a lighthouse
to come in, and the petition was granted granted and it was set to be built, but before
construction could even start, John unexpectedly died from unknown causes. Oh man! Poor John!
From a curse. From a curse. Strike one curse is here. Yep. Yep. Eventually, even though he died,
the lighthouse was built, but right after followed more tragedy. So a man
by the name of George Worthy Lake was given the job as keeper of Boston Light in 1716, and
his job consisted of maintaining the light at the top of the tower and also guiding ships
into the harbor. It was also said that it was possibly his duty to determine if ships arriving in were carrying passengers
with communicable diseases.
And if they needed to be quarantined before they entered.
What is it?
What's a delightful job?
Yeah.
Sounds like a great time.
Yeah.
He's walking onto these ships and everyone has scurvy.
And he's like, oh, and he's like, oh, okay.
He's like 60 to's a part of everybody.
Yeah.
They're over there.
And tragedy struck for him on November 3rd, 1718.
So he had been there for two years
when he decided to leave the little island
to attend a church service in Boston.
So he left about that day with his wife Ann, their daughter Ruth.
They had a servant named George Cutler and they also had a man who was enslaved by a George
Worthy Lake who is called Shadwell. And they also had a friend on the ship named John Edge. So
they had a bunch of people going that day. Now this next part's a little bit unclear if whether
they were leaving the church service
or they were trying to arrive, but to get on to shore they had to leave the big ship that
they were in to go into a smaller canoe.
And because they had so many people with them, the little canoe capsized and with the
rough waters that were there, all of them drowned. Ooh.
Ooh.
Curse number two.
Ooh.
Curse number two and all of their bodies were later recovered
and buried except for their servant, George Cutler.
Oh.
That's awful.
Awful.
And just this place is cursed.
It's so much.
I was gonna say, like, bad energy man. Or she could say that and that was it. That was it. I was gonna say, I wish I could be like, bad energy man.
Or I could say that end.
That was it.
That was it.
That was it.
Oh no.
Three days after their deaths,
a man by the name of Robert Saunders
was asked to go to the Boston light to maintain it
until they could find a new keeper.
And he agreed,
but two weeks later, Robert Saunders
and another man who is with him,
drowned at the Boston light.
Stop.
Or they just like on their way there?
It didn't describe exactly.
It sounds like they were just a storm hit or something
and they were thrown into the water.
Or damn.
So two keepers, like boom, boom.
And we're still like first year
Is that true first year?
Fresh out of the gate and we have three that well three like major incidents with deaths so far. Wow. Yeah, well
Now following these deaths a 12 year old whose name you might just recognize, like George Washington's,
his name is Ben Franklin.
No, I've never heard that one.
Ben Franklin, I don't know her.
Ben Franklin was never 12, so let's get over her straight.
I was thinking that I was like, what did Ben Franklin look like at 12?
Like how do I picture this man's?
He still had like the outfit always had gray hair.
They were seating her line always.
Well, Ben Franklin, after these tragedies, he was inspired to
write a poem. So before he was creating electricity, he was a
poet. And he wrote a poem that was titled The Lighthouse
Tragedy and he actually wrote this on small pieces of paper and sold it all
around the Boston area. I love that for him. He made a bunch of money. He's an
artist, but his father was not into it and he was like, no, you're not a poet by the career path in
Ventilatricity, okay?
Yeah, like this isn't going anywhere.
So the next light he brought Boston light was named John Hayes and while he did not die
during his time at the lighthouse, he did experience some significantly bad luck. While he was there,
a large fire broke out in the lighthouse, which didn't cause too much damage, but there was enough
damage that it lost it launched an investigation into John. And they believe that his negligence
caused the fire and they would held his pay until they could prove otherwise. Oh damn.
and they would held his pay until they could prove otherwise. Oh, damn.
That's pretty severe.
I know that's a lot.
He's like, I didn't even do anything.
Right, like I know money.
You're gonna work here and we're not gonna pay you
and we're gonna investigate.
Wow.
Sounds good.
I feel like everyone is a team.
Everyone would say, John, then, too, I feel,
so I think they were just just like it probably is a John
So we're just gonna hold you see this one. Yeah, it's gonna be some John
After this fire at several years later in 1751 the lighthouse caught fire again and this time
It was almost completely destroyed, but later they were able to repair it.
Okay, wait, did John do it?
Or were just, no, John did not do it.
Okay, it was just not random.
Because I was still suspicious over here.
I was like, I don't know about John.
They were eventually like, oh no, you didn't.
That's well, we're still not paying.
Sorry.
Get back in there.
And weirdly enough, during this time period,
so there's fires, there's death surs, all this stuff.
Also during this, this lighthouse was very weirdly
being struck by lightning all the time,
which is very rare.
Yeah.
Wow.
It happened.
It habits so many times that it was proposed
that they needed to have a lightning rod.
That's actually on the lighthouse.
And which also fun fact, Ben Franklin invented in 1750.
I love it.
So connected to this lighthouse.
Yeah, he's like, this is my lighthouse.
But with everyone was like, we need a lightning rod.
This place is getting struck all the time.
But the religious Puritans in Boston area,
they believed that the lightning strikes
were actually a stroke from heaven.
So they didn't want to interrupt with it.
But after this is happening, like all the time, they said,
let's build, let's put a lightning rod on this.
I was going to say, you know what?
I propose a lightning rod.
That's just heaven saying, hey.
Hey, what's up?
I don't know if that's how heaven says hello.
I don't really know.
I don't know.
We're gonna strike you down and fire.
I'm gonna send a jolt of fire into your structure.
It's a friendly hello and
Potentially the light keepers stay. Yeah, but like that's what caused the fire lightning. Yeah
Like no, that's heaven. Yeah, that can't be and it was John
Blame John who didn't get paid
It's like I'm not even getting paid for this
Yeah, I'm blame even getting paid for this. I'm blamed.
This volunteer John.
So they did install the lightning rod and that solved that problem.
And after John Hayes left as light keeper.
And then by the name of Robert Ball took over and he actually lived out his life there
as light keeper for over 40 years.
Wow. get it.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's not a one year after his death in 1775, the American Revolution happened, and that's
where the British military sees Boston, and they seized the Boston light.
I forgot.
We're still way back here.
I know.
When you said that, I was like, the what happened? The American Revolution. Oh, my God. I forgot we're still way back here. I know. When you said that I was like the what happened?
Yeah, I thought it was. I thought it was the 80s right now. I was like, why?
Like houses? Yeah, man. So it's one year after his death, 1775, and they
seized the Boston light and they blocked it. So there was no access to it. And now three days after
the Battle of Bunker Hill, American troops came in and they actually set the lighthouse on fire.
Oh man.
A rude.
The British thought it was rude and they ended up preparing the damages some month later.
They're like, this is my lighthouse.
This is our smell.
But one of the very last things that the British did before completely leaving Boston because historically we know that they did end up leaving was on June 13th,
1776 and one of their very last vessels that they had in the harbor
that day the Americans had opened fire on them on June 13, 1776, and they took that vessel
and they went over to the Boston light and they blew it up.
Oh, wow.
So much fire.
That escalated like so quickly.
Like we're just absolutely destroyed.
Wow, you know what, before we leave on, we are done here.
It's like those movies where you're walking away and there's an explosion.
Yeah, that's the British.
Well, that's the British.
Or like I picture like the little girl with like the house on fire in the back.
That's the British.
She's like, it's working.
Yeah, they're just like, she's like, I know what happened here.
By Boston.
See you later.
Jason.
So the one that is standing there today is obviously not the original Boston light. See you later.
So the one that is standing there today is obviously not the original Boston light as it was blown up and several times.
But another one was built in 1783.
We'll accept that bad. Yeah, I was going to say it's not pretty old.
It's now I think it's the second old.
It's technically the second oldest lighthouse because the first one blew up.
Right.
There's that whole thing.
Yeah.
Now with all this tragedy that has occurred here, there are of course, are some stories
of paranormal happenings.
There have been voices that have been reported here, specifically the sounds of a little girl
sobbing and calling out the name
of the enslaved man who died there.
Shad well, Shad well.
That's so some my entire body just wanted to chill.
I was like that.
I was like looking back.
Yes, like I was like, oh shit all over.
Cause you know they had a bond too.
That's horrible.
And now somehow they're together in the afterlife and or she's calling to him. That's horrible. And now somehow they're together in the afterlife.
Or she's calling to him. Oh my god. And I did read that Shad will play at a huge part in trying
to save all of them when they capsized. So it sounds like it was her last calls.
Oh my god. Come on. For real. Oh, we're just like, oh, hard.
So still today, the Coast Guard report seeing figures that are standing on top of the
lighthouse and then they disappear. And many people believe that these are the ghosts
of George and his family. Oh, they're just hanging out in the lighthouse.
Bye, man. Yeah. Everyone stays there forever. Everyone, you don't get to leave.
Don't get a lighthouse job unless you want to stay there for eternity. Per reel.
And lastly, there is also a paranormal phenomenon that occurs at the Boston light.
This phenomenon has been nicknamed the ghost walk
because six miles to the left of the lighthouse
for reason unknown.
It is said that there is no sound
that penetrates this area at all.
That sounds horrible.
I don't like.
Which also means that any warning bells
from the Boston light can't be heard
from any incoming ship. Oh, that's weird. Some bad shit happened there. Oh,
in that bad you do. Yeah, I don't like it. Oh, man, oh, that's spooky.
No, no, so spooky. And like I said at the beginning, currently, the
lighthouse is still occupied by a keeper her name is Sally Snowman and she is the very first woman light housekeeper of the Boston light and I really hope
that she's having a little bit of a better time then. All these other. Sally I hope you are like
just like risky business like sliding across the floor. I hope you're having a great time there.
What a cute name.
You said her name is Sally Snowman.
But it's an adorable name.
Yes, it's top.
I love her.
Never change your name.
Never change.
Never change.
And she's the first woman too.
That's cool.
Yeah, what a bad ass.
So Sally, it's your first.
Maybe the light has just needed a woman.
I think it did.
Maybe the thing's so good.
Yeah, it's a maternal energy.
Yeah. Wow. I think it did. I think it did. It was just needed a woman. I think it did. It was just needed a woman. I think it did. It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman.
I think it did.
It was just needed a woman. I think it did. It was just needed a woman. I think it this was so fun. I loved this.
Yeah, we had a great time.
I loved looking into,
I knew Terrible Tilly was calling me as soon as,
I was looking into Acadia and I was like,
God, I feel like I should do it because it's like,
you know, homegrown, like,
I feel like I need to pay some homage to New England.
But when Cassie was like,
Oh, I got, I'm like, all right.
I feel like I'm out.
Tilly calls. Yeah, I'm like, all right. He's like, I love it. It is.
Tilly calls.
Yeah, I know.
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