Morbid - Episode 365: Spooky Lakes Vol. 1

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

New installment on the show!!! SPOOKY LAKES! Alaina brings us to New Hampshire to talk about Haunted Lake. It’s all in the name, this place is super ominous and a WILD phenomena happened hundreds of years ago that you just HAVE to hear about. Then Ash takes us over to Nevada to talk about Lake Mead. So many of you guys have been requesting that we cover Lake Mead simply because of all the bodies that have been washing up. We’ll discuss some of those remains and who they belong to as well as talking about what else once lurked beneath the surface.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hey, Weirdos, I'm Melena, I'm Ash, and this is morbid. I just wanted to do a weird one. And this is morbid. You do fast, I do, demon. Diamond, diamond. Diamond. We're here with a spooky episode today. Yeah, I think it was the last haunted lakes episode or like spooky lakes episode, Lake Linear.

Or have we done one so that? Yeah, because I don't even think we deemed that a spooky lake episode. Yeah. I think it was just like its own thing. Well guess what? Now, we got a whole new series, fucking spooky lakes. Because you know we love a spooky lake,

a spooky road, a spooky castle, a spooky. You know, we love a spooky. Anything really, in a lot of you requested spooky lakes. That was like when we said like, what other spooky things would you like to see lakes? It was like top of the list. Oh yeah. And the lake that I'm covering in particular, so many people have asked for us to cover this.

Yeah. And mine's just strange, and it has like a little strange thing about the town later, but yeah, Ash has like a really good one, mine's good too, but Ash really thinks it's gonna blow our minds. Oh. But yeah, I think Spooky season is upon us. It's time to get spooky. Let's get spooky.

And just because now we can say it, Tobias Forge from Ghost is coming on the podcast. Fucking so cool. I'm dying. And you are also dying. And I'm so happy that we can all freak out about this together. I know this is like very exciting. It's very exciting, like very exciting.

How exciting is this is a good get? It is. This is what it is, yeah. The ultimate get, I will say. But if you guys have any questions that was we're going to ask him a few fan questions. And so if you guys have a question that you've always wanted to ask him,

just send us your question to morbidpodcast.gmail.com. Put in the subject line, ask Tobias. Because we know. We know. Because we got a whole folder going, we're gonna sift through, we'll pick a few, and then we'll have him pick some to answer. So hopefully yours will get answered.

But throw them out there, because you never know. Burning questions for Tobatt is. But we want you guys to be involved because when I said that, like, we started listening to Ghost John and I, everyone was so sweet about him. It was like, oh my god, like the people who have been listening to them forever. Oh, yeah. We're like, now you have to listen to this. And you have to listen to this. In fact, Jordan from Nighttime podcast is like a huge ghost fan. Oh, yeah, 100%. And he was all excited. He was like, finally, but you guys were like so sweet about it and giving me all these,

you know, songs to listen to and being like, I hope you get to a live show, which we are going to get to a live show. I just am picturing myself at this live show. And it's the funniest thing even to myself. at this live show and it's the funniest thing even to myself. Because I, you know, like we're all weirdos here, but I came late to the weirdo game a little bit. Different brands of weirdo. Yeah, different brands of weirdo. Even you and I are like entirely different brands of weirdo. Oh, absolutely. I'm just like crazy. No, no, I am. But I thought you said, nah, I'm like, I agree. Don't fool me. I'm crazy.

I don't know if we've told this story on the podcast before. It originated from that Liz Dush movie, this thing, didn't it? Oh yeah, it did. So we were watching what movie is that? It's Soul Survivors. And they go to like a club that's kind of like club hell. Yeah, it's like the super golf club, like ultra, ultra golf club. Like literally like you cannot get in unless you're wearing black or leather or chains. Yeah, it's like the super golf club, like ultra, ultra golf club. Like literally like you cannot get in

unless you're wearing black or leather or chains. Yeah, and there was like Elena showed it to me and there's this one scene where they're going to this movie and I put up my little like devil horn, some of my hands and I was just kind of like poking them into the air like grooving. Like in the way that I groove and Elena is saying that I'm gonna do that at the concert.

Because if you could see the visual of that, because she does it in such a way that's just like, yeah, because I'm a group, yeah. I'm not like a rock star. In like an ashway, which is lovely. And I hope it happens during the concert, because we're very excited about that. And because you guys were so amazing,

we just wanted you guys to be able to be a part of this as well, because you've been so cool about it. So send those in. Yeah, y'all. Let us know. We're very excited about it. And Yippee, we have some fun things planned for that episode. It's not going to be just a straight-up interview.

No. We're going to flip it on a tidal bit. We've got some silly things and like cool things. And I think it's going to be a fun interview. We've got some silly things and like cool things. I think it's gonna be a fun interview. It will be fun. But you know what, right now, we're gonna get into some terrifying lakes.

Let's go swimming. Or not. Or not. Definitely don't swim in the lake, I feel. It doesn't have a great reputation for swimming. This is haunted lake. Let's go. And it's in Francis Town, New Hampshire.

It is also known as Scoby Pond or Scoby Lake. We will, I'll tell you why after. But most people call it Haunted Lake. I like that. Just keep it simple, you know. And it's been known as Haunted Lake for decades. I mean, like, yeah. Like, long, like centuries at the front.

She has a fucking wrap, okay? She does. She has the background to be named Haunted Lake. Good for her. I mean, when you're named Haunted Lake, you have no choice but to be Haunted. It's that simple. Like you're not just named that. That's not just a feeling.

I mean, it's a Haunted Lake. But what happened before was, before New Hampshire was even settled, there was actually a huge fire that happened around what is now haunted lake. Oh shit. It was a blaze that took out all of the surrounding vegetation of the lake, also some little little dwellings that were happening around the lake, not actual settlement dwellings. Right, right. But people that were even camping around there and such. People died, like it was bad. Oh no. Yeah.

And it looked terrifying after this, because it's just a bunch of charred, just dead devastation all around it. Do you know how people have like different fears? Like you have a fear of like very large things. Yeah. Well, I think one of my fears is like the aftermath of a fire, like what that looks like. It's so ominous. It is. It's so ominous. It is.

It's really unsettling. Yeah. But I found this crazy old book from 1895, and it's called The History of Frances Town, New Hampshire, from its earliest settlement, April 1758 to January 1st, 1891, with a brief geological reference of all the Frances Town families. That tells you everything you need to know right in the title. And it's by Reverend W.R. Cochran. Go off, Mr. Cochran.

It's actually in it, he talks about obviously the town of Francis town, New Hampshire. Oh, he goes into the first settlers, the first recorded deaths, the first recorded births, jurors, the first bail. Like all the first things that happen in a town, it's actually really interesting, especially for like history buffs.

You just see like the creation of a town. It's cool. That is interesting. And also in it, they mention haunted lake. And on page 432, it says, and I quote, Even the page number? There you go, just because there's a lot of like

opening stuff about the town that you might want to be like, and you can find it. There's like an archive of this book free online. So it says, there have been several traditions concerning the origin of the name haunted, all showing its early date. One is that a fire once reaged on its shores so fiercely as to consume every living thing. And only of the trunks of the largest trees were left standing, charred, ash-y, desolate, and frightful, causing the early surveyors and even the roving Native Americans to turn away in fear,

and presenting at night an appearance weird, strange, and startling in the extreme. No doubt there was this basis, this a basis of fact, and no doubt it tended to confirm the early belief that the place was haunted. So it got it really early on. No, I'm just going to give you a few instances that I found in this book and in a couple of other areas. In 1741, two men came across each other on their way to the lake to buy land and, you know, settle, do manly things.

Yeah. In 1741. Treaties. Just lands. They didn't know each other, but they ended up taking the rest of their journey together after coming across each other. Like, they didn't go there together. They just came across each other and were like, you want to hang?

Yeah. They set up camp right along the edge of Haunted Lake and something dark happened that night that we don't know what happened, but they started to argue in a fight and suit. Eventually, one of these men killed the other one in the fight and then buried his body on the shores of Haunted Lake. Now it's said that the man who was killed wanders the shore screaming and moaning in anguish.

Oh, yeah. Now, in 1753, a team of surveyors came to the Lake area to survey land for future farms, and they were going to be there for a few days to complete the job. They camped out the first night on the banks of the lake thinking it would be a soothing place to sleep right next to the water. Oh, yeah, how gorgeous. Well, according to one of these surveyors who was actually leading the team, named Matthew Patton, it was anything but soothing or restful.

In his diary, he indicated that the entire camp was awake all night because they were tormented by the loud screams and moans of what sounded like a man who was being tortured or was in great pain. Holy shit. And it's not known how one guy killed the other guy. No. So you don't know how it happened or, yeah.

Like the fact that he's screaming out in like English, right? And it would, and some people say they hear that still today. Yeah. Like when you go in that area, some people said that they've heard those screams. Sounds like he was very much tortured. Yeah.

And it wouldn't stop and they all heard it. Oh. All of his workers left the following day and refused to stay another second after this. Literally abandoned the job. I feel that so hard. In the book that I mentioned up top said about this incident quote, these chain men were hardly fellows, not accustomed to fear the face of man, but they had some superstition

and some alarm at signs, at signs, and bad omens, and they could not be persuaded to continue their work, even for another hour. Damn. Yeah. Now, the next instance is two fur trappers, sometime before 1780, went up to the haunted lake area to set up what was called trap line circuits. These are circuit-shaped areas where traps will be hidden for various animals. The trapper will walk the circle area,

and they'll just like go, you know, check the traps as they go. Now these two trappers set up two different circus circuits. One was in the haunted lake area, like right next to the lake and like around it, and the other was slightly outside of that area, but close enough that they could meet up after camp. So one night they went through their circuits and one of the trappers, the one in the haunted lake circuit, didn't come back to camp.

Okay. The other one went looking for him and came across him dead, completely mauled, and there was a giant mountain lion standing over him. Oh, and now this guy's just witnessing that. Yeah, and he's like, holy there. Oh man. So now there's two people buried at Haunted Lake. That's not good. And now he come to 1780 and where the name Scobylake comes from. Oh okay. A man named David Scobylake came to me and he was like, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what,

I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, I'm going to tell you what, buried at Haunted Lake. That's not good. And now he come to 1780 and where the name Scoby Lake comes from. Oh, okay.

A man named David Scoby came from Ireland to New Hampshire. And all he wanted was to build a water-powered mill on the shores of Haunted Lake. So he got to building, and while he was deep in the process, he comes along a dead body. Oh, yep. Randomly on the shores of Haunted Lake, there was a dead body. Oh, yep. Randomly on the shores of Haunted Lake, there was a dead body buried in a pretty shallow grave.

Not one, could have been either one of those. Okay, okay. They don't know. And it was skeletonized, and it seemed to be a younger man who was tall, like pretty strong with good teeth. That's how they knew he was like a younger guy. Oh, okay. But I think it's probably the first one, I would say,

because I don't know what you would find. Yeah, I don't know what good condition the other one would be in. And I also, since it seems like it was skeletonized and it was like a younger guy, I don't know why, but it just to me feels like those two guys that got in a fight, one of them would be younger. Or it was both of them maybe.

I'm not sure. But he was like, oh, shit. Like a skeleton. But after turning that find into the proper outlets, he said out and finished his building his mouth. He said, I found that. I came I saw it now to conquer it. I gave it to the right people.

Yeah. Good for him. You know, did the right thing. But like, here's my quick little life tip. This is just me personally. What's up? When you're building literally anything, finding a hastily berry body of a young man during the process is likely a bad omen. Oh, for sure. Luckily for me, I don't know if I'll ever build anything.

Yeah. But like if that happens, just take that L. Move on. Yeah, you don't even have to, it's not even an L. It's a, it's a W because the universe is like, is letting you know, don't do this. and there's plenty of other places to build shit There's so much shit everywhere exact. There's so much shit everywhere. They're very much it the world is full of shit Truly it really is but it's also full of beauty it is it's full of beauty and you can make the beauty in the shit Make your own beauty make your own beauty out of the shit. Be beautiful and positive and wonderful. If you haven't learned by now, that's our motto. That's our new, well not new.

That's just our motto. It's our motto now. Now I want to sing that song. But he got, so he got the mill done and it was up and running and his sons were working. There was like a little family affair. Everything was gone all right. But the lake was still showing its displeasure with people, pretty consistently.

Like in 1810, a 15-year-old named Jacob Langdell drowned there, and it was said he was found with Lily's grasped in his hand. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I know. That was so haunting and just so sad. It's haunting and really sad. In 1816, another boy named Samuel Allen drowned. In 1824, a man who was 55 years old named Ikebaud Gay, he drowned there. Ikebaud is such a crazy, awesome name. Ikebaud is a really fun name to say. Then in 1829, haunted lake turns its attention

back to the mill in David Scoby. Wasn't done with them yet. It was in this year that he was bringing a big stock pile of ice across the frozen haunted lake to transport it, David Scoby was. Okay. Very Christoph. That's exactly what I thought of. I was like, get it, Christoph.

I know you. The ice cracked and he went down into the freezing depths where he drowned in the lake. Oh, this lake is, it means business. And this lake doesn't want to be settled upon it sounds. No, it was like I'm haunted. Yeah, I showed you that. Let me be haunted. Like it's charred and burnt out and devastated

and it's like leave me the fuck alone. Yeah, it's said I'm broken. Yeah. And what do they say? I've ever seen the picture of like the witch and it's like don't touch the witch. Like that's just like don't touch the lake. Yeah, yeah.

It's the very next year in 1830 That's like don't touch the leg. Yeah, yeah. It's the very next year in 1830 Nathaniel Aiken drowned there. No. Yeah. And the mill was transferred to another owner, David Fuller. And the Fuller family did run it for a little while, but then abandoned it in 1860. Okay.

Abandoned it. And the book also mentioned that the scoby boys, David's sons, who worked for him at the mill, were known to try to scare people around town who came into the vicinity of Haunted Lake, like while they were working at the mill. And they would hide in the woods and like groan and scream and try to freak people out. But for people who are like, well, there you go, that's what that is. It's like, nope, because the book states, they're very quick to state in the book that hauntedly had its name hauntedly from the get-go.

Yeah, from the jump, way before the Scooby Boys ever arrived. So that's not what made it haunted. It's not like, oh, they were just getting people to think that. They were just playing into the whole vibe of it. Okay, okay. And they were like known to do that. It was like, oh, the Scooby Boys. But this entire area,

this is the weirdest occurrence, and I had to add it in here. This entire area also had some weird occurrence happen in 1780 when scoby arrived to build the mill, which I thought was weird. It was like it called to him. Yeah, like that year was just a lot of shit. Right.

And I don't know if this was it being like, don't build that mill. Yeah. Now, May 19th, 1780, it's called the Dark Day. What? This was seen in New England. And for several days leading up to this day, they said that the air, and this is recorded places,

that the air felt like it was smoky, and vapors were seen in the air. Why have I never heard of this? That's what I did. That's what I did. I was like, I'm from New England. What the fuck? Records said the sun and moon looked red and hazy for days leading up to this. Why don't we get to see it? Why don't they teach us this shit in school? Yeah, like, so interesting. Why didn't pictures exist yet? In May 19th came and it was dri drizzly and thundery a bit,

just like a regular drizzly day. That was. It, but around 10 a.m. that day, it just got dark. Like zero dark 30. Like dark. So dark. This is wild. That chickens went to roost.

Birds went back to their nests. Cattle were said to go to their stalls, and were apparently making weird noises that can send far worse. Apparently even flowers and plants thought it was night, so they closed or opened accordingly. I fucking love plants. Like, then it rained, and it was like,

sucked apparently. What? According to the above book, they said the rain was, quote, full of a substance that, like, burnt vegetable matter. Forming a scum with smell of sutt over everything. What? Yes. By noon everyone was light and candles to see it was so dark.

By noon. And people legit thought this was fucking end times. Like they were like this is the end of the world, clearly. They're like the world kind of just started, but it's already over. It's done. Like obviously didn't just start. But like, we just started like really getting this shit, like moving. Right, right. And now it's over. So people all over New England were running outside

and confessing their sins and shit. Oh shit. People were rushing into churches for confession and like, solace. Like it was literally like people in the streets praying on their knees, It was literally like people in the streets praying on their knees, screaming out the sins they have done well, vegetable matter, so it falls from the pitch black sky. Do you have noon? At noon. Like what?

You're like it's too fucking early for this. It is noon. Do you have any hypothesis as to what that vegetable shit would be? None. Like none. I have no fucking clue. I'm like going back to like third grade

and like trying to think of the whole runoff system and like evaporation and all that shit. I'm like, what evaporation? Me too, I was like, what the fuck is that? And what happened the day's leading up to this? Right. And why did it get that dark? The world is the craziest fucking place.

It's wild, and they didn't even get light at night when the moon came out because they were thinking, maybe I think they were saying it would, the moon would quote rise at nine o'clock. And so they were waiting for nine to be like, okay, that's when we're gonna get our light. Like it's gonna happen and we're all gonna feel okay. The moon didn't even come out.

What? Like it was, they said it was so black that it was like you couldn't see your hands in front of your face. And you said before this, both the moon and the sun looked red and hazy. Yeah. What?

Isn't that what you did in multiple places? This is recorded for sure happened. Yeah, this happened. Oh my God. And you know people were running out there like confessing to some crazy shit. Oh yeah. And then I'd day they were like,

you know, I was just like feeling some type of way. I just wanted to write short fiction before I died. That's all. That's, they jarrad shay for it. Yes, like they literally, we, because the next day, they woke up and everything was fine. They just woke up and they was like,

this scum all over everything. What? From that reign. Yeah. What was this scum? And it was like all over haunted lake and shit. Like there was a layer of scum that had fallen and like was on haunted lake.

She said, get the fuck out. Oh, it's insane. Yeah. Yeah, that's insane. I don't even know the proper word for that. Yeah, that blew my mind. I had to add that in there. I was like, what?

What? And that is the tail of haunted lake, but apparently people still hear those screams today. People have seen weird things that it looks like somebody's walking across the lake, but then they look again, like what the fuck and no one's there? No, like people look for the old mill.

I am a goose bump, yeah. And people look for the old mill. I am a goose bump, yeah. No. And people look for that old mill now, the Scobie mill. That was the fuller mill after. Don't look for that. And they found like remnants of it.

Don't touch it. After it was abandoned, they were gonna rebuild it. No. But they never did. But there's like these remnants of like, you know, stacked rocks and stuff that you can see where it definitely was. Don't touch that.

Yeah, don't take a rock from it. Don't take a vile of sand from there. Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Just do not. Yeah, this is one place that I'm like, no. Oh, I'm so creeped out.

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I think you are. I've always said Nevada. The word on those streets is Nevada. The word on these streets over here in New England is Nevada. So I feel very wrong, but I'm going to move past it. You got it. And Lake Mead, actually, I didn't realize this, is the largest reservoir in America. Oh.

And it was America's first national parks, excuse me, first national recreation area. So the lake was a man-made project. We all know how that goes. Oh yeah. Took place in February of 1935 after the construction of the Hoover Dam. And when the lake was at its fullest point, it measured about 12 or 1,250 feet deep. But this lake actually has not been that full since 1983, almost 40 years ago. Damn. You were showing me some of these pictures.

Oh my God, and we're gonna talk about something. I am like, wow. It's crazy. The last time that it was even close to being as full as it originally was, was 22 years ago in 2000, which also saying 22 years ago in 2000, it like hurts. Yeah. But these days...

I just remember, and I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you now, you're good, you're hurting. I was just, I can see it on your face, you're hurting. I'm just thinking about like when we were all scared that like the grid was going to shut down. Oh, in 1999. I'm just thinking about like when we were all scared that like the grid was gonna shut down. Oh, in 1999. And now in 2022, I think we're all like, when is the grid gonna shut down, can it? Like I think we're all in someone shut the grid down.

We are so scared. Like we're like, oh no, what's gonna happen? All the things. And I remember like it turned midnight, we're all like, why 2K? I can't imagine living through that, because I've lived through, like there's been so many times

where they're like the Mayan calendar ended. Yeah, of course. And we all thought it was gonna end, but I feel like Y2K was the biggest of those stairs. Everyone literally thought. And I was gonna happen. I think that's maybe why not as many people were afraid of the Mayan calendar ending

and all the different ones because they were like, I don't know, you said this in 1990. Yeah, it's a really novel. But yeah, shut the grid down. Yeah, but now I'm like, okay, when's Y2K happening? Yeah, for real. Let's go.

It would be like, I don't even know, never mind. But anyway, these days, and as recently as August 3rd, the lake has shrunk and it's depth to 1,040.92 feet. My, that is outrageous. It's lost over 200 feet of water. That is just drying up because of climate change and global warming. It's awful.

Now, the majority of scientists don't think that Lake Mead will ever reach its full capacity of depth again. That's really sad. It really is. And the trend show that if anything, it will just continue to dry up. Damn. It did gain a little bit of water recently because we've been going through like a crazy drought It really is. And the trend show that if anything, it will just continue to dry up. Damn.

It did gain a little bit of water recently because we've been going through like a crazy drought and it's been even worse like over there on the West Coast. And they did get some heavy rainfall that definitely rose the water levels up, but not near where it would need to be. So crazy.

But all that said, to get to the point of the story, as the lake is losing more of its depth, all kinds of things are being uncovered. It's actually like we were just saying super, super creepy to watch video footage because now you can see all kinds of boats that have reemerged and some of them. I don't know why this creeps me out so much, it's just like plain creepy. The boats that are just standing vertically like up and down that were once under so many, like hundreds of feet of water. And now are just like, just right there,

like it looks like they're just like in the sand. So crazy. Something about that, it's that thing. It's wrong. They're big things that just are out of place because they're not in working order. So it's just like, that's exactly what it is. You're like, no, that's not supposed to be there,

put it back. You're supposed to be floating on the surface. Like, you're not supposed to be happening. God damn it. There's also been even creepier things to emerge. Like, the whole last cities, yes, I said cities, that we're just sitting underneath the lake for the past 87 years. Imagine swimming. Oh, no, no

Swimming over a city freaks me the swimming. That's another phobia. It is it totally is because you add to my growing list of phobias that I have I know I'm like holding myself right now because it's like that is another fight That is called something like swimming over big things. Oh, yeah, you should look at it. Because it's like a fear that you'll be sucked in by them. I feel that way. We were at the lake recently, like one of the lakes that we go to recently. And I was thinking about it more and more.

And I was just like, oh, get me out of here. Yeah, it's a no for me. But like things like that have reemerged. And then of course, they have found many sets of human remains. Yeah. and then of course they have found many sets of human remains. Yeah, so Lake Mead has a long history as you well know, and we're going to start at the very beginning before it was even a lake way before there was even a thought of turning this place into a lake. And of course it had been settled first by Native Americans. So first there was a group of Native Americans known as the basket makers named because they made very beautiful and intricate baskets.

Makes sense. Yeah. And shortly after the basket makers settled on that land, another group of Native Americans came along. And these were the Pueblo people, excuse me. And by most accounts, the Pueblo people and the basket makers kind of like combined their ways of life and they really maintained the land together. History obviously tells us that it's very uncommon for these groups to combine their cultures without some kind of war being fought to get there, but it's actually not known for sure whether there was a war or whether they were just like we have similar cultures like let's mend them,

let's move on the land. I just feel like it always has to be a war, so stupid. Always. Now, while the Pueblo and the Baskinmaker people were living together in Unison, they turned this area into a full-blown city. The Pueblo people were known to make beautiful structures, and the people before them, and even before the Baskinmakers, they were known to build structures that were underground. They're called pit homes. but the Pueblo people built upwards. And actually, like, in a kind of modern way when you look at it. If you're just picturing small little one-room structures, think again, because these structures were built,

like some of them had 100 rooms. Damn. 100 rooms. You can look at pictures and it's beautiful. It looks crazy now, and it's beautiful. It looks crazy now because it's almost like mummified, but it almost looks like how Greece was built. Yeah, you know what I mean?

Yep, you're right. Yeah, it's beautiful. And one such structure can actually be seen now because the lake has dried up so much, you can go see the structure with 100 rooms. That must be really fascinating to look at. It's very terrifying. Absolutely. I don't know which is ominous.

You know, like, something lurks within just because it was buried under water for a while. Yeah, that's the thing. Now, archaeologists began to study this lost city. That would later become known as Pueblo Grande de Nevada. Nevada, sorry. Nevada. We got it. They kind of started really getting gumptioned into their studying of this place.

Right as plans were being made to construct the Hoover Dam and subsequently fill in the lake. So they had to start hustling to uncover all kinds of artifacts that they had already begun finding so they knew they would find more. And through their searches, they found ancient weapons, they found skeletons, they found different buildings, different structures. So just way more than they bargained for. Way more than should be under a lake. Way more than should be under a lake, exactly.

And the thing is, all of these relics are just gonna teach us more about the civilizations that came before us. So they're, of course. Digging crazy, trying to get this done before the lake fills in, they were literally digging up to the point where the lake was being filled.

Like they were pouring the water and the people were like, hang on one sec, like I found something. What the fuck? One man said archeologists were working there until the lake was rising around them. Oh, is that, can you imagine being so frustrated? You're like, no, like I just, like, we get the rest of this.

And it's really like, like, we have to put a lake here. Yeah, like, can we just, can we postpone it? Can we just leave it? We'll postpone the lake really quick. For real. I mean, it's great that they stayed there that long because now there is a museum in Nevada featuring everything they found. It's called the Law City Museum. And it was actually founded by the National Park System. And they have these massive wall-to-wall cases, just filled with ancient artifacts and relics. It looks so cool. I want to go so badly. Oh damn. We need, I never, I feel like I never was interested

in going to Las Vegas. I'm just, I don't gamble at all. Yeah, it's never really been something I wanted to do. Yeah, but now I'm like, let's fucking go to Vegas. I like to go. I want to go to these museums, that there's go to Vegas. Like, I don't want to go to these museums. So there's another museum that I'll mention later that I want to go to as well. There is a lot of interesting things there that I think get overshadowed by like the,

like nightlife. Yeah, exactly. 100%. Now, again, I had said there is more than just one city beneath like me, there are multiple. Actually, I think there's three if you're getting technical. So this other civilization was founded by Mormon settlers, and they named it St. Thomas after the main leader of their group, Thomas Sasson Smith. These settlers in particular had been

sent out by Brigham Young, one of the first leaders in the Mormon religion, and he basically wanted them to go out there so that eventually there could be some kind of like trail set up between Utah and this area of Nevada. So they find this area, they see that it's rich for farming, it's a little off the grid, which is great because they can live amongst themselves. And Thomas Assen Smith and the group that he was traveling with, they founded this area. And at the time, they thought that they were actually still in a section of Utah. And they knew this muddy land would be great for farming, so they're like, awesome, it's 1865. We're christening this place St. Thomas, let's live here. And they did. For about

five years, this group of Mormon settlers lived amongst themselves. They farmed the land, they built a church that they all went to together, and I don't know, they just vibed. They just vibed together. But then in 1870, there was a survey done, and it turns out that this small chunk of land was actually determined to be Nevada's piece of land. So they were like, ooh, you guys got to pay us back taxes now. Ooh. And you've lived here for five years.

So you want to hand that one to us in gold? I was just going to say somebody had me a calculator. Yeah, I did. They had a lot of money. And also, it was like kind of a dick move. Like, you just grandfathered them in. Like, technically it wasn't about us. That's true.

But now it is. And so they simply didn't have enough money to pay that. So they left the town abandoned. Some of the buildings were burned down. Like, they burned down their houses and businesses. I think probably because they were like, you're not going to keep this. It's just so annoying.

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It's so annoying. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. Before the 1880s, the town was reborn when farmers, again, realized how great the soil was, and they began harvesting the land all over again. So these settlers actually welcomed back some of the Mormons that had previously been kicked out, and the town really started to ramp back up again. Eventually there were hotels, bridges, cafes, and other church was constructed, and things went well for another 50 years, So they lived in peace and harmony.

Everything was cool. That's always awesome. It's like David Scobie. It was like everything was fun. Yeah, it was like everybody started dying. Exactly. Nobody died here yet. It was just that president Coolidge

signed off on Hoover Dam being constructed. And the residents of St. Thomas were told that they could live there. They had another, they had about seven years until this whole project was set to get into place, but they needed to make arrangements because in seven years, they were going to bury their town in hundreds of feet of water.

Yeah, that. Yeah. I, can you just imagine somebody knocks on your door and they're like, yeah, we're gonna flood the city that you live in, so you can, do you mind just figuring out somewhere else to go? Like, how do you respond to that? Because like, your home means so much to you.

I can't imagine being like, yeah, we're gonna flood it. Yeah. And like, you can never go visit it again or anything like that. Like, yeah, that's just like, you're literally like, okay, like, that's just so, like, what do you say? Don't, I mean, you definitely, please don't do that. Why do you have to? But they're just like, we's just so, like, what do you say don't? I mean, you definitely don't do that. I don't have to. But they're just like, we're going to though.

Yeah, they're like, President signed off on it. Sorry, President's orders. That's, you gotta get out of there. And do they rest here seven years though? Please don't. Like, I don't, what else do you, you're like, okay, I guess I just abandoned everything I've ever loved and known so they can fill it with water.

Like, cool, cool, cool. It's so strange. Like, you, it was you it was it was like linear that was the same. It was whenever you covered these ones and you say that I'm always like what the fuck? Like you just get first of all. What the fuck don't ever knock on my door but you get a knock on the door and they answer back then. Nobody's got the ring camera. I'm like I don't know you and no actually excuse me the simply safe.

Exactly. But like I just what what I don't know you. And no, actually, excuse me, the simply safe. Exactly. But like, I just, what? What? You're just like, hello? Oh, okay, that's bad news. No, that's not great. So pretty much everybody left because they really didn't have another choice. They received a very, again, just like,

like, linear a very small payout. It was not at all what their homes were. Not enough that they would need to start completely over from scratch. That's the thing. And it's like, you're not only leaving your home, but you have land, like, they should be getting over from scratch. That's the thing, and it's like you're not only leaving your home, but you have land. Like they should be able to get it appropriately for that.

That's the thing. They were not. And legend has it that one man stuck around until the bitter end. This man is called Hugh Lord, and he one was not going to accept such a small payment for his home and his land. And two, he didn't actually think that the water was gonna rise as high as the plans laid out. He was like, I think they're making this a big fucking deal and it's not gonna be that big. They're overexaggerating, everybody do not worry.

Unfortunately, they were not overexaggerating. It's completely wrong. And I don't know how true this story is because this sounds a little wild. But it's said that he realized one morning how wrong he was when he woke up to his bedroom filling in with water. I'm like, would they be like allowed to do that? I feel like that would be a jarring. I feel like it would, so. Jarring.

He is said to have packed up all of his things, got his robot, he had a robot ready just in case. Yeah. He set his home on fire and just rode away from it. Like what? And shortly after his departure, Lake Mead was officially filled, but as we know, it would not remain full forever.

So aside from the lost cities and the boats that I mentioned are now reemerging, there's also something pretty fucking wild that technically it just hasn't fully emerged yet, but we have a view of it that we've never had before. I showed you this and I feel like it's going to freak you out all over again. So crazy. This wild thing that is slowly coming closer and closer to the surface is a B-29 plane

that has been sitting in Lake Mead since 1948. I hate it. So this plane, it previously was used to survey the Colorado River. And the day that it crashed, it was actually running a test flight over Lake Mead. So it's unclear really what exactly went wrong to cause it to crash, but when it did, it sank so deep that it wasn't traceable.

Now, I will tell you luckily the five people on board were rescued, nobody died. I was thinking this. Everybody survived the crash. That's wild. So it was not great. But it would be 55 years before the plane was even discovered, which happened in 2003, and it was only because the water levels were,

of course, starting to deplete. Now, even now it is pretty deep down, and you do need scuba gear if you want to go check it out. But if scuba is not your thing, I found this article that had a photo from an aerial point of view, and there's this sliding cursor that you can move to see before the water levels started sinking.

And then after. So first, when you're looking at it with the cursor slid over, you would have no idea that a plane is lurking below. It just looks like a body of water. Then you slide the cursor and the view changes to the after point of view.

And you can see the top of this plane. Again, it's still submerged, but you can see it. Like this massive fucking plane just sitting there. I hate it so much. When you show me this picture, I was like, So creepy. So creepy. I hate it.

I hate it. I hate it. I knew there was one more. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I knew there was one more. I hate it. The next one. And another means of transportation also reemerged very recently, actually, in July of this year.

I showed you a picture of this too. A World War II Higgin Ship, which was used for soldiers to storm the beaches back during World War II. Now, a lot of these particular boats were actually used on D-Day during the Second World War. And this particular ship that now sits slightly in the water, but mostly sticking out, it was a surplus ship that was originally sent to also survey the Colorado River, much like the plane I was just talking about.

But when they didn't need it for that job anymore, it was sold to one of the marinas at Lake Mead, and they actually purposefully sank this boat. And the reason they did that was to anchor this structure that protects the marina from harmful waves if the water gets too crazy. So when it sunk, it sat 185 feet below the surface. And now is almost completely, like, above the surface. That's too much.

Like, that's too much. And that gives you... That's too much. It used to be 180 that I honeyed below the surface and now is completely... That 185 feet of water has depleted. And it's just gone. Like, what?

That's... Ooh, it's so creepy. This is akin to like anything to do with oceans or space where it's just like too much. It's too overwhelming. Like it gets to be a point where you're like, oh, oh, too much. So scared.

Can't rationalize that in my brain. No. The other thing is this, this like body of water is what we use for drinking water for like 40 million Americans. Yeah, that was a little concerning. And I'm like, okay, so there was like an airplane lurking below a fucking

world war two ship. And we are gonna talk about some bodies that are also below and an ancient city that like we don't even know completely, or an ancient city that we don't even know completely, or multiple ancient cities that we don't even know like what's lurking behind that land. A handful of ancient cities underneath this thing. And we're just like, oh yeah, put that in your

Britafilter and drink it up. It'll be fine. Definitely put it in your Britafilter. Yeah, for sure. Jesus. Holy shit. So creepy. No. And that too, because this is a real problem.

If this butter keeps depleting at this rate, like 40 million Americans, or I think it was actually over 40 million Americans, are gonna need to find a different source for drinking water. So wild. How are we at that point, guys? I'm like, we got to do something. We got to do something. We got to do something. We got to do something. We got to do something. In a tiny apartment in Southern California, two college dropouts teamed up to create a watch company that broke all the rules, with fair prices, unexpected colors, and clean original designs.

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Now in March of 2017, Lake Mead was actually named the Deadliest Park by outside magazine, and that was even before these bodies started washing up. The lake really does get a bad rep because there's a high amount of death associated with it. A lot of people have drowned out there, not necessarily in a lake linear way with like lost souls pulling you underneath. I mean, maybe that is the case, but it kind of seems more like people swimming out farther than they intended to and getting tired along the way or jumping into the water from high

up and not realizing how strong the currents are. Because I think when you hear lake a lot of times you're like, oh, lakes are chill, but this lake, I mean, is massive and it's the wind out there is strong, like the currents get crazy. Oh, yeah, because it's true. You think with lakes, like it's just going to be like glass. Right. Like really smooth. You're not going to have to worry about ocean shit.

Right. But you do. And drownings actually account for most of the deaths at the lake, but there are also vehicle crashes, there's been homicides I guess, and there's been falls and suicides. And actually, when outside magazine named Lake Linear, the deadliest park,

they weren't even counting the deaths that were by suicide, which is really sad. I know. Now, as the lake is drying up, like I said, a lot of partial remains are being found as well as whole entire bodies. A man was recently discovered inside of a barrel with a shotgun wound to the back of his head. Now, some people think that this murder was probably a malpid because it does sound that way. Certainly rings like one. Definitely does. The man was found very badly decomposed,

but still wearing actually some of the clothing that he had obviously been wearing when he was killed, including a shirt, shoes, and a belt. Now, because of the style of the clothing, it's believed that this man was probably killed in the mid-70s to early 80s. The mob theory comes from the fact that around the late 70s and well into the 80s, the areas surrounding Lake Mead were

rife with all kinds of mob activity. And actually, the mob museum, which is the museum I want to go to, it's in Vegas, set of the time quote, it was the most violent period in Las Vegas has passed, an era of unprecedented street crime and underworld killings. Damn. And mobsters were known to kill their victims, excuse me, particularly with execution-style murder. Oh, yeah. So, that's much like how this man was found, so it's definitely a good theory, but it

has not been completely proven yet. And historian Michael Green, he said, he lived in the area around this time, and he did agree that the mob definitely was known to take their victims out execution style, but that most of the time he said people were killed outside of the city and away from it all because the mob guys didn't want to tarnish the gambling industry, which does make sense.

So there are a lot of theories about who this man could be. And the first theory comes from actually some of the employees at the mob museum. Oh. They are pretty sure, like they're really into this lead. They think the man inside the barrel could be a man named Johnny Popus. Now while he was still alive, Johnny was said to have connections to the Chicago outfit, which is a Chicago-based crime family. And Johnny himself was from Chicago, so it's not crazy to think that that's possible. Yeah.

The leader of the Chicago outfit was Anthony the Ant Spelotreau. I love the names. It's like my favorite thing I've heard. I know it's like super fucked, but the names are... Just the names. The names are just hilarious. They are. The Ant.

What about the Antiscai? But then I'm like, is it like he's the Ant? Like they can carry... The Antony. They can carry a million times their body weight. Oh, I didn't even think about it. And they can devour like a whole rotting thing. And like, can they really carry a million times their body weight?

I don't know, that million was like, but they can carry, but they can carry an absurd amount over their body, their own body weight. I was seeing them carry a couple crumbs from time to time. Oh, they can carry more than that. Ew. I hate that. Ew. Hate that. My stepdad had this theory that like we're ants

to like where somebody else's ants and it used to really creep me out. That is so heavy. He was very emotionally unwelso. I was just gonna say was he like dropping acid at that point or something. Well, I mean, you know the guys are like potentially. That's why.

No, he was doing like worse than that. But you know, he had some theories. But anyways. He had some thoughts. He had a lot of thoughts that like I don't particularly share. Damn. Yeah.

So Johnny, Chicago, yay. Ant, not yay. Ant, the Ant, worked with four different casinos, quote, unquote, overseeing operations. Oh yeah, I bet he did. Yeah. I bet he oversaw a lot. And word on the street was that the ant and his guys

were skimming off the top, and that Johnny Poppuss might have known about it, because Johnny worked at the casinos, he worked in the Las Vegas, Hilton, and at Caesar's Palace, both of those casinos. He also managed a hotel called Echo Bay on Lake Mead. And Echo Bay was run by a company that was said to open up different properties to use us for spending mob money.

It was for spreading mob money, excuse me. So one day, in 1976, Johnny just simply vanished. He told his wife in the morning that he was gonna show somebody his boat on Lake Mead because they were interested in buying it, but he never showed back up. And they found his car missing like four days later and they were like, uh, this is not good.

Something went awry. Or I meant to say they found his car abandoned, they found it so it wasn't missing. Like, they found it had been missing. Yeah, yeah. So over the years it's been suspected that the ant and his guys might have rubbed Johnny out, which by the way, does that expression

just creep you the fuck out? Yeah, because it just makes you think of like a big picture. Yeah. And you're just rubbing a person out. With your thumb, right? Yeah, just whoop, yeah. It creeps me. Just like that's not how that works.

I don't like it. So over the years, many people suspect that the ant and his guys rub Johnny out. And by the way, if the name Tony Spelotro or any of this story sounds familiar to you, that might be because he inspired one of the characters in the movie Casino. Nikki Santoro, played by Joe Pesci. Oh, okay.

That was inspired by the aunt. The aunt. Now, in August of this year, a gun was actually found pretty close to where the body in the barrel had been discovered, but it has not been determined yet if this gun was used in that killing. But another woman who actually was contacted to give a sample of her DNA thinks it's possible that her brother is the man who was found inside the barrel in May of this year. She said that when the barrel was discovered, quote, I just knew it was him. I still feel it's him. Ooh. Now this woman's name is Barbara Brock,

and she explained that her brother, Bobby Eugene Shaw, went missing about 45 years ago, and she was told by the police that based on the condition of the skeletal remains, the time period of when he went missing could make sense, like he could be the body in the barrel. Okay. And they asked if she would submit her DNA.

Oh, damn. And that's like pending. That's pending, as long as she. And Bobby was said to also have connections to the mob. Oh, okay. So like I said, Barbara was asked to give DNA and she did. And her nephew also gave a DNA sample. They gave their samples over, I believe,

and May of this past year. But the police think that it could take a while to get a definitive answer, like at least a year. Oh wow really? Yeah I guess it takes a long time to be Samyla and the DNA. But she feels very strongly that this is her brother and the police, the fact that they did ask for her DNA, they're at least trying to rule it out. They are. Now William Crespo has been another name brought up as potentially being the man inside the barrel. Back in 1982, which I don't know about that. He was arrested at an airport because he was trying to smuggle a shit ton of cocaine back into the US.

We are talking $400,000 worth of cocaine. I feel like that's a lot. Today, it would be $1.2 million worth of cocaine, so you are correct. That is a lot. Today, it would be $1.2 million worth of cocaine. So you are correct. That is a lot, many, many cocaine. He also had connections to the mafia as well, but when he was arrested at the airport, he gave information to avoid a heavy sentence. Eek.

His testimony against these people involved in the mafia actually led to 10 indictments. Ooh. And after that, he disappeared. Ooh, yeah, I would say so. So my question though, is, did he disappear because like revenge? Or was he placed in the witness protection program?

Yeah, you know? And it's like, or did he disappear in huge just somewhere else? Yeah, exactly. Like he just disappeared because he had to. Yeah, or they killed, they did kill him, but they just put him somewhere else. Like he doesn't necessarily have to be this one. No, and based on, they did kill him, but they just put him somewhere else. Exactly.

He doesn't really have to be this one. No, and based on the timeline, I don't know how likely he is that he's the guy inside, the man inside the barrel, excuse me, because he was arrested back in 1982, and so it would have been like well into the 80s, and they're thinking more like mid 70s. Early 80s, so it could happen, but I don't know.

Yeah, it's like right on that fringe, but like, it sounds more like he disappeared, because he had to. Yeah, I think the other two are strongly. I do too. There's one last name. The last name I saw as a potential to be maybe a match to the body in the barrel was J. Vandermac. He was in charge of running a slot machine operation

for the mob at the Stardust Resorting Casino. When the Stardust was raided back in 1976, he left Vegas real quick because he was like, I'm not gonna get caught up on that, but he did get caught up on that because there are rumors that he met with the mob to hand over the $7 million that he had made for them. Ooh, but it was discovered that he had kept three of those millions to himself and was later killed because of that.

So it is also possible in 1976, he never know. I would say that the strongest two leads are probably Johnny Papa and Bobby, Eugene Shaw definitely. I think so too. So that's the body that was found inside the barrel. And remember, that was only in May of last year So I'm hoping by next May like we could have an answer and if it is Barbara's brother at least she'll she can have that

Yeah, at least she knows where he is Right, because I was watching an interview with her and she said like she'll see somebody on the street That looks like him and like stop them or like try to get a better look at them. She's like constantly searching So it'd be nice so she could at least have some kind of closure as a weird word. Yeah, I don't think I feel like we've learned over this like these past few years. Yeah, closure doesn't really exist. That closure isn't the best way to describe it, but. But some semblance of that at least. So now if you are a fan of paddle boarding, I don't know if the next discovery will be for you or not. I'm not, so let's go. Me either. So recently two sisters, they were not,

because we're not into that. But they went paddle boarding out on Lake Mead, and they got a little bit more than they bargained for. Uh-oh. They were paddling along, and they saw what they thought were the bones of a big horn sheep. So they go over to this area and they start digging, because they're like, holy shit, like, as I'm what that is. Is that a big horn sheep? Is this a big horn sheep? I put a random thing to think it is. I know, I don't know if they're like a big horn sheep to fishy anados.

Yeah, or I don't know if like big horn sheep are frequent flyers in the lake. Maybe they are. I'm not sure. It's pretty cool though. So they start digging and they realize it becomes very apparent very quickly that this was not a sheep.

One of the sisters, Lynette Melvin, explained to the reporters later, it wasn't until I saw the jawbone with a silver filling that this was not a sheep. One of the sisters, Lynette Melvin, explained to the reporters later, it wasn't until I saw the jawbone with a silver filling that I was like, oh, this is a human and started too free-go. Oh, yeah, that must be wild. I can't imagine, I hope that doesn't happen ever. So investigators handling the specific case, they haven't been able to determine

a cause of death for this set of remains, like, but we basically have the answer. They said they don't expect foul play, but later, the remains were identified actually as those of a man named Thomas earned. He had been reported missing 20 years ago on August 2, 2002. He was 42 years old

and he went out for a boat day with his family. He jumped into the water and it sounds like the currents were too strong and he started drowning. But he was kind of a jokester. So at first his family thought he was joking. But then he started screaming like, I'm serious, I need help. Never joke about drowning everybody. No, exactly. He was not. So his family went to get help, but by the time they got back, they couldn't find him. Because the currents are so strong,

like these currents can take a body hundreds and hundreds of feet of water. Oh, that's awful. It originally was. Now, in Thomas's case, like I said, it took 20 years for his body to be located, but thankfully he was able to be put to rest and his family got some kind of semblance of peace. And he was actually able to be located, but thankfully he was able to be put to rest and his family got some kind

of semblance of peace. And he was actually able to be identified because there's a long list of missing people who went missing while on Lake Mead. So the police were like going through that list trying to figure out- Just narrowing down. narrowing down exactly. And Thomas's son got a call asking if he could provide DNA to hopefully match up to the remains. So Thomas' son and his daughter both agreed

to give DNA samples, and sure enough, it was a match. His son told reporters, I mean, of course, it's going to close a big chapter, just knowing he's at peace now after so long, but it is definitely big news, and I don't know if I was ready for it. I don't think you're ever ready for that. No, it's just like so sad, but I'm also happy that now they have a place

to go visit, exactly. So more and more remains are being found at Lake Mead. A lot of them, by the way, are partial sets of remains that hopefully can be put together and potentially identify more missing people connected to that area. And a lot of investigators believe that this is really just the tip of the iceberg and that there are going to be a lot more remains, a lot more relics,

just like a lot more, that lake need. Look at what has already been found. And it's like we're just starting to have this stuff scratching the surface. It's like quite literally. Literally, it's wild. But they say that it's not a reason to stop enjoying the lake. They do want people to to stop enjoying the lake.

They do want people to continue to enjoy the lake, but they also are urging people, you know, this is like we need to do something about this. We have to figure it out. The Lake Meads National Park and Recreation Division Chief David Albers says, I think people need to understand that this is a big place. Lake Mead covers one and a half million acres of land between Nevada and Arizona. And we've been here as a recreation area in one form or another since

1936 when the Hoover Dam was established. This has also been a land that people have seen moving through it for thousands of years between Native Americans and early settlers and explorers. So to be surprised that another set of human remains has been found is not unusual. Now, like I said, there's been a lot of remains found. I believe five sets of remains, including the body and the barrel have been found. And it's hard to say if how many more are gonna be found

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because you get into National Park, and a creation area. Now, also shocking everybody, there are also some reports of hauntings in the area. Why, can you explain why that would be? I just did, man. So people have heard crying and weeping when they're in the dam's power plant.

They'll hear footsteps when there's nobody behind them. Sometimes people have even heard voices that don't belong to anybody in their tour group and everybody will like turn their head and be like, what the fuck was that? And it's a disembodied voice. And a man has also been seen in the dam. He's dressed in what's referred to as old fashioned park clothes. And if you catch a glimpse of him, you better not blink, and you better not make any move toward him.

Because the second you do, he simply poofs into the air. Oh, oh. Like a shy. And he even go anywhere near him. He's like, good-bye. He's a shy one. He is. And it's believed that he could be one of the many men

that were killed during the construction of the day. Oh, yes. 96 men were killed on the job, and that number doesn't even account for people who died either at the hospital or at home later. Me, crazy. People also claimed to hear activity coming from the abandoned Mead Lodge,

which was once and up and running place for guests to come stay the weekend at the lake, but they eventually closed down when the lake went further and further out. Yeah. Couldn't really enjoy it anymore. Again, due to climate change. And I saw a few videos on YouTube of people just exploring the abandoned lodge. It's got this creepy, desolate feel to it now, and the air is said to feel very heavy

inside. Oh, I hate that. And that, my friends, could be part one of like me because I'm like, are we going to have to do a part two? And more of these probably remains are found and the cook gosh knows what else is gonna be found. Oh man, that was intense. It was interesting. That's a lot. It's the most. No wonder you guys were requesting that. That was interesting, ominous, fascinating, terrifying. There you go. And phobia inducing. It truly was.

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