Morbid - Episode 398: True Crime & True Hauntings with Sam & Colby!

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

This week Alaina and Ash got to tag along with some pretty well known Youtubers, Sam & Colby to investigate the USS Salem. The USS Salem, though it didn’t see combat, saw a lot of trage...dy and a lot of death during the time it was commissioned. There were many, many deaths on board which led to many hauntings that still take place today! In this episode we talk about the Vilisca axe murder house, demonic attachments and our incredibly chilling experience on board! Sam & Colby's Youtube Channel Sam & Colby's Xplr Club!!!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to morbid, early, and ad-free on Amazon music. Download the app today. You're listening to Immorbid Network Podcast. Hi, I'm Lindsay Graham, the host of Wondries Podcast American Scandal. Our newest series looks at the Kids for Cash Scandal, a story about two judges who stood accused of making millions of dollars in a brazen scheme that shattered the lives of countless children. Listen to American scandal on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Weirdos, I'm Alina. I'm Ash. I'm Sam. And I'm Col to go. I Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh- I think they have a very small audience of 8.1 million subscribers. We're only on my space. Yeah, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Oh, yeah, yeah. So I was really glad to give you guys a boost. Thank you. Thank you. I was really glad to do that for you. Please. No, so say thank you for that. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:01:34 That having what six months ago? Three months ago. No, when you guys shouted this out initially, we got an influx of tweets. I've never seen a thing. Oh, right. You guys can see this. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:01:43 That makes me happy. This has been a long awaited podcast. It really has. As soon as I mentioned, you guys, people were like, will you please do a collab with them immediately? We really have to. That's awesome. I like we will.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It was in the works very early on. But like I said, they have 8.1 million subscribers on YouTube, which is insane. Yeah, that's a lot of people. Insane. Thank you, guys. It's unbelievable to us too. We never thought it would get to this, honestly. How could you even conceive of that?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Exactly. I can't even imagine that number. Yeah, right. It's crazy. And you have like over what, like, 320 something videos, I think I saw. I think so. It's around there.
Starting point is 00:02:24 We've deleted quite a bit of embarrassing ones. Yeah. Everybody's been there. Let's go back. We do. Of course. Exactly. And you've explored haunted locations all over the world.
Starting point is 00:02:35 You've done Queen Mary's castle in Scotland, which I really jealous about. Yeah. I want to go to Scotland so bad. Yeah. Was it awesome? Oh, it was beautiful. So cool.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Castle in the middle of nowhere. So cool. Oh, the dream. Seriously. I want to live in a castle, like a haunted castle in the middle of nowhere. You know what's crazy? Yeah. Is you can actually buy Airbnb's, ask castles in Scotland.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Oh, what? So I think that's what we did that night when we married from the beginning. Queen Mary's Castle was an Airbnb. You're like bargaining with them like wait can we come back for a whole month I just live in the sea here like my god I love that wow we just want it though I'd never want to leave right like a long paranormal investigation
Starting point is 00:03:18 let me just keep it going yeah there are something back in the day yeah seriously look like that yeah we really do We messed it up. But yeah, you've done that. You've come all the way to Fall River and Massachusetts to the Lizzy Board now. Yes, it was a good one.
Starting point is 00:03:32 You covered it all. One of the things that you have covered that I had to talk to you about is the Wuliske Axe Murder House. We covered that in like several episodes. Yeah, you covered that. Yeah, I could cover episodes. I couldn't stop.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Like, could not stop. Could have done like 18 episodes on that. I's it. Have you been to that one? No, and I'm dying to go. So when I found out you went, I was like, like that one has a vibe to it to where as soon as you walk in, you can feel the heaviness of the situation because your viewers or listeners probably know this, but like that story is so messed up there. Right. And so like, just walking in, especially since it dealt with a bunch of like kids, you walk in, you just feel the negativity.
Starting point is 00:04:11 That's what I would expect. That one, I was like, I wanna go, but I don't know if I could go. I know. It really does feel awesome. Like that was the one that we actually had to take multiple breaks going like outside. I'm gonna be like, it just feels weird.
Starting point is 00:04:23 It's just gonna supposed to be there. It's someone's like watching you type of thing. It is. I hate that feeling. It was also super strange because we had like an experience with our car that has never happened before where as we were pulling up, our headlights went out and we actually got pulled over by the cops and stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And it was, and then as soon as like we ended up leaving the house, they started working completely. Oh, that's a video, too. Yeah, it's like the house or whatever was there, was taking the energy from our car. Yeah, I knew in trouble, that's terrible. I know, that's a lot of energy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:52 It makes a lot. Nessed up, please. Oh, yeah, and the fact that it's not solved, I think that's like part of the head. Right. You're like, we don't even know what happened here. Can you remind me their names again? Like, who are the suspects?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Do you remember? Honestly, there was a few. There was one that was like a preacher. Yep exactly. There was one but nobody was like a good suspect. Right there's like a businessman. Yep there was a businessman. The preacher guy and then there was the one other dude like he was like a train runaway that will be. Yes. Oh yep yep yeah. I've got a same though. Did our whole episode basically about this book that someone wrote about this, you know, yeah, train hopping off like serial killer
Starting point is 00:05:32 that went through a bunch of different spots. I think I read the same book. Yeah, so that book, yeah. Like apparently basically solves the murder mystery. I mean, because they made like, they like mapped it out. Yes. That it was just like hitting railroad stations. Yeah, and it's like ax murders everywhere. Yes. That it was just like hitting railroad stations. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And it's like ax murders everywhere. Right. And he would do the same things and each of his murders and stuff would like cover up the mirrors. Yes. And then he would like hang around the dead bodies for a while and like eat dead stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I mean, they're so. Yeah. Messed up. So creepy. Just a little bit worse. You do all that and then you just sit at the kitchen table and you're like, yeah, feast up. Yeah, that's horrible. Terrifying. And that was one that had kids staying over the house that weren't even part of the family. Which like that for some reason was the worst part to make.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Because I'm like, you were just sleeping over. You're like, so terrible. And if you get a chance to actually go to that town, you'll notice it's like a small little, it looks like a happy community. It's not that big at all. So it's, I don't know, it just doesn't even look like the spot. Like something like that would happen in. That's the thing. Because they all knew each other. Right, and that makes it even scarier.
Starting point is 00:06:34 It's like small little town where nothing ever happened. It seems impossible. We walked around that house all the time and like the story goes that someone was able to walk all the way in and kill eight people without being unnoticed. And, area without being noticed, but it was a squeaky old house in order to get around that house and that quickly we're able to kill eight people in two separate rooms. Nobody wakes up.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It just doesn't add up. That's really a mystery. And with an axe, like an axe is not a silent weapon. Yeah, that's really loud. It's like hitting people in the face and in the skull as gross as it sounds like noises are gonna happen. Well, and you assume that somebody is going to wake up while that's happening and It's right. Yeah, especially like a little kid. Yeah, and there's axe marks in the ceilings. Yeah, he's like Like, hitting hitting yeah on the backswing is everything. Yeah, that's that's the creepiest or use the blunt side Yeah, that's so strange because you can see the cuts from his backswing. Yeah, did you guys sleep there like oh
Starting point is 00:07:37 Definitely scary. Yeah, I would not want to sleep there. Yeah, I couldn't do that I just stand up all night. That was a very eerie one. All of those, like even like Lizzy Borden too. All those like unsolved mysteries are just so different. Yeah. And out of heaviness to it. And when it's that brutal. Yeah. Yeah. Because Lizzy Borden is so brutal too. Lizzy. And that's the thing. And it's like there's still that weird toss up of like, did she do it or did she not? Mm-hmm. So creepy. Is there like a haunted location you guys have gone to that's really stuck with you over the years? Like either positively or negatively?
Starting point is 00:08:10 Ooh, that's a good question. Jenny, the one that stuck with me recently was a Sally House. Yeah, you guys were talking about that last night. I don't even know what that is. Okay, so there's this house in Atchison, Kansas called the Sally House. And I think the ghost is this little girl named Sally that had come to the house to seek help as a doctor. I think she was doing what? Some surgery or whatever. She's something like that. She needed help from a doctor. She died under a surgery by this doctor. But then some very weird stuff was going
Starting point is 00:08:43 on, especially in the basement. There's this pentagram that's like drawn in the basement. Some weird stuff has been going on in the years. I should have been to Graham in the basement. Yeah, I don't know. Like ups and downs or whatever like that. Either way, your nowadays not allowed to go down to the basement. And so obviously we had to go down to the basement. And we might have
Starting point is 00:09:05 taunted something while also sitting on the pentagram for a little bit too long full sudden. Yeah, we really just went for it. Yeah, pretty careless about that and we think something got attached to me. Oh, no, probably like three to six months or some. Yeah, we'll find out by the end of this podcast. What made you feel that way? like three to six months or something. Is it gone now? Or is it still a bunch of things in this room? We'll find out by the end of this podcast. Oh, that's right. What made you feel that way? Like, what kind of things started to happen?
Starting point is 00:09:32 It was the same sort of storyline and like signs that would happen over and over and over again, specifically targeting me. Like, you know, if I would wear a specific color at an investigation, they would call that out. Or like, you know, I'd ask like whatever spirit, whether or not, you know, if I would wear a specific color at an investigation, they would call that out. Or like, you know, I'd ask like whatever spirit, whether or not, you know, this location wouldn't be known for having a little girl on it. We'd go all around the world and it would always target me, always say like Sam or like,
Starting point is 00:09:58 say they want to be friends with me. And it was like super strange. Yeah. Yeah. I think the scariest part of that though is that There's a rumor that it might have not even been a little girl at all And it was just more of a facade of something more like darker and evil trying to persuade everybody. Yeah, I'm the sweet little girl Oh my god, I see that's yeah, right, right. Yeah, what about you Colby? Oh, I would say Zach Begins Haunted Museum was one of my
Starting point is 00:10:23 Fingers. Oh, I could see that. Did you see the the debit box? We saw the debit box and Zach himself actually gave us permission to sit in the devil's rocking chair, which only him and his team has been able to do in the past. Oh, that's high honor. Yeah, that was amazing. That was really cool. And terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Absolutely terrifying. But we ended up doing the investigations on the rocking chair and that was just, it was one of those moments where it made my heart race. So mostly beforehand, and you just think about that because it's like something that not a lot of people get to do and so we just don't know if we brought anything from there as well because everything there is haunted. Every artifact he has. And people say that they leave there and feel like things
Starting point is 00:11:02 attach to him. I've heard a ton of stories from there. He has tons of videos as you're going on a tour there of people passing out or like, Oh my God. Jack told, but vomiting everywhere, he's bad. He's really bad. In that devil's rocking chair, I'm like, on it,
Starting point is 00:11:14 he was one of the exorcisms performed by Ed and Lorraine Warren. Stop it. And so basically they think that whatever was there, basically left the child that they were exercising and went into this chair. And so that's why people don't sit on it. He's offered some other TV stations to do that. And they just literally say no, they're so scared of it.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And you guys were like, let's fucking go. We were like, let's fucking go. We were like, we have to do that. Yeah, we have to. We have to. Yeah, we have to. Who turned that my down? Man, that's crazy. You can't. Hi, I'm Lindsey Graham, the host of Wondries Podcast American scandal. We bring to life some of the biggest controversies in US history. Presidential lies, environmental disasters, corporate fraud.
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Starting point is 00:12:47 You can listen ad free on the Amazon music or Wonder App. You know, like we've been doing this a long time and we live for those moments that truly are like Just blow us back on our feet just doing what actually is this thing that we're doing with and Going and sitting on this devil's rocking chair was one of those moments where we genuinely cannot explain it any Any way shape or form like when I'd like lost feeling on my legs for like 10 minutes. So like shaking as if I was compared to this, as if I would just like ran a marathon in a second. It was like everything got tired, like I was like shaking and just so weird.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And I don't know, it was. I think the worst part about it, though the scariest part is our last investigation in the basement, nothing was really going on. We were kind of confused because everything was active all night. But then all of a sudden our one of our friends got her hair pulled. Yeah. And so she ended up running out in tears honestly. And so we had to stop the investigation stuff. Obviously for her safety, but it was scary to see somebody that was so close to us being exactly like that. Yeah, that was.
Starting point is 00:14:05 That was the night it was like poking at her and like doing it was like almost targeting her. It was like focusing on her. And at the very end, you know, it was like really like built up the energy. Some of these entities just feed off fear. And so if you show that, which she did that night, they keep upping it.
Starting point is 00:14:20 They bully you. They bully you. That's so nice. That's what I was so scared of last night. Like going into it, I was like, I don't want my hair pulled. I had like braids into it. They're pulling you. They're pulling you. That's what I was so scared of last night. Like going into it, I was like, I don't want my hair pulled. I had like braids in too. I was like, this is like a prime time pull the hair out. I'm chatted up on it. I was like, I'm good. I can't pull that. But you didn't have your ears covered. I did not. And we will get to that. We're going to get to that. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm still stressed out about that.
Starting point is 00:14:41 All right. Do you want to take over Elena and tell us all the history? So what we did last night, because you guys don't know it yet, is that we went to the USS Salem in Quincy and we did an investigation with Sam and Colby. Ashen, I have never done any kind of ghost investigation. This was our first time using all the equipment and even just being in a place like that, I think we did the Lizzie boardenhouse, but we just weren't doing an investigation. We were just kind of going to do a podcast and sit and do it. We've gone on like fake ghost adventures before, but this was like prime time. Yeah. This was real. Like I should
Starting point is 00:15:15 off the lights and we're like, oh, okay, this is like real. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that. I don't know why I wasn't expecting that, but I was like, oh, we're going dark, okay. I'm like, turn it all going to be on, I see. So yeah, we went to the USS Salem, and it's also known as the Sea Witch, which I kind of love. I like to have that last night. Yeah, and it's supposedly one of the most haunted ships in the world, and now, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:39 You can confirm now. I can't confirm. I believe it is insanely haunted. I went home to my husband last night and I was like, I was just in a haunted ship. Oh yeah. That just happened. Did you wake him up immediately
Starting point is 00:15:50 when you got home? Yes. I woke him up on impact. I was like, okay, up, and Adam. I got in. I was like, I need to tell you everything and he was just like, oh my God. Did they believe you?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Oh yeah, Drew is terrified of paranormal shit. He was like, I would have gone into cardiac arrest and I was like, very true. I almost did, so. Yeah, it was bad. That was even intense for us. He was like, I would have gone into cardiac arrest. And I was like, I almost did. So. Yeah, it was bad. That was even intense for us. Not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Really? Yeah, I love that. That was super easy experience for us. Yeah, that feels like an accomplishment. It does. It was really, it was really good. It was crazy. Like I showed John, we'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But I showed John the video that you guys said last night with the crash. Right. Yeah. And even he, because sometimes he can be a little like skeptical. I don't know. And when I showed him that, he was like, okay. I don't know what that was. But I'm going to tell you a little bit about the USS Salem.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Tell you why it's very haunted. Why we believe it's very haunted. And then Ash is going to get into some of the ghosts that are seeing a lot there. And we're going to talk about the ones that we think that we encountered last night, which we definitely encountered some quite a few, I would say. Nine, apparently. Nine, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:53 More on that later. Yeah, we don't have all the names, but nine. So it was commissioned and built July 4th, you know, America. Well, in 1945, by the Bethlehem Steel Company's four river shipyard in Quincy, Massachusetts, you know, of a shout out to Boston. It was created as a show of force initially and defense against the Russian naval forces. The US decided it was probably best to have like a brand new beautiful intimidating shiny new vessel then to keep reusing the same ships that are getting like the shit kicked out of them in war and be like, be scared of this one.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It's falling apart. So they were like, this is brand new and huge. And it is fucking massive. Exactly. Yeah. And call it the sea witch. That's terrifying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:38 They should just stuck with that. Yeah, like the sea witch. So it was ready to be launched on March 25th, 1947, but a captain was an initially put in place. So that took a while. It took until 1949. Oh wow. So he was just hanging out until then. The first captain was Captain J.C. Daniel. He took it over first and he had some serious power behind him because the USS Salem had a ton of guns aboard a ton. It actually had the the world's first automatic eight-inch guns. I don't know what that means, but
Starting point is 00:18:11 it sounds pretty impressive. I thought the inch was a typo. I thought I was like I think it's supposed to be like the like circumference or something. I knew that one makes sense. But I was like, sure, world's first sounds awesome. Things, whatever we talk about guns, we're like, we don't know what we're saying. I'm always like, guns. That sounds scary. But yeah, it had a ton of innovations in ammunition, and a ton of like ammunition-loading technology on it. It was like shiny and new. So the USS Salem, or the Sea Witch, had seven deployments to the Mediterranean, but it never saw any like straight up battle. Instead, it just saw a lot of deaths, a lot of tragic brutal suffering death.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah. So August 12, 1953, a massive and deadly 7.3 earthquake hit the Ionian Islands in Greece. Were you saying last night that Greece ended up going like two feet higher than it? Well, yeah, it like happened to the entire island. Like it's wild. Yeah, not enough. And I found some newspaper articles last night
Starting point is 00:19:16 because I couldn't fall right to sleep, so I was like, look, I'm pretty cool. That's what I do. Meanwhile, I was staging my room. I've got some of the ghosts talking about an island. Oh my God, yeah. Right. Right. Over that. Yeah. I forgot about that by the portal, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, the portal. Oh, get there. So coincidentally, the ship that happened to be nearby at the time of this earthquake was the USS Salem. Other ships with more experience, more supplies, more doctors, they were way far away.
Starting point is 00:19:46 They weren't gonna be able to make it for a couple of days. So the Salem just stepped in and was like, we'll do our best. So they went in, the sailors all flooded onto the island to gather bodies. They were bringing people in need of medical help onto the ship and just away from the complete devastation that was happening on the silent.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Because the island was on fire Thing like mountains like at one point it said people people were watching mountains fall into the sea Apocalypse happening it's easy to think that 1953 really isn't that long ago. No, no It's really not. Yeah, I know it feels like it was like 50 years ago, which is weird. I'm like, it's 2000, right? Yeah. But the quakes rocked the island for four straight days. They kept happening. Like they would get more and more. It was like aftershock. Yeah. But they were like full-blown earthquakes. They weren't just like little tremors. Because you're going from seven all the way back down. Yeah. So anything under that is not going to be just a little like, oh, that felt weird. Not a chill.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So when the crew of the USS Salem arrived, device admiral J.H. Cassidy messaged that the devastation was quote, terrifying, sickening, and complete, which I think is the most chilling statement. Complete complete. Sounds sorry. Yeah. And he said people in panic, fearing the island is going to sink,
Starting point is 00:21:06 it basically did parts of it. At least 400 people, and possibly up to 800 people perished in the quakes, they died from fires being buried under buildings, being buried under land that was falling out of everywhere, somehow that's scarier. It wasn't buried under land. All of them were being buried alive, essentially,
Starting point is 00:21:27 because they said they were going onto the island and they could just hear screaming, and they couldn't see anyone. So it was just people screaming under piles of things. That is so chilling. Yeah, they were all very violent, very brutal deaths. The Salem crew did the best they could with a small operating theater and limited supplies.
Starting point is 00:21:45 We saw that small operating theater. It is a small operating theater. I don't know how they did it real small. Unfortunately, between 75 and 190 people ended up dying on board the ship alone in only a few weeks that it was working as a floating hospital. And of course, with this long of a stint as a makeshift trauma hospital, a makeshift morgue definitely would have been part of this equation. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:22:10 You're putting your foot down. I'm putting my foot down. There is a makeshift morgue on that ship. I know it. Did just the room overboard actually. Yeah, there was like whatever. Just wait. Onesle baby.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Honestly, could happen. It could have happened. But they couldn't bring the bodies back on the island. The island was little destroyed. The destroyed. It's not like they were just blown.'t bring the bodies back on the island. The island was literally destroyed. It's destroyed. It's not like they were just blown. Let's bring you back on there. So there was definitely some kind of temporary storage.
Starting point is 00:22:33 There isn't a conventional morgue on the ship, but it seems like maybe they would have definitely had to be placed together, and it would have to be somewhere where they could keep it like somewhat cold, I suppose. They had to have found somewhere to bring them. It was real cold on that ship, so I feel like they wouldn't have much of an issue. It was somewhere on there. It was somewhere on there.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I know some people were saying there was no more, but there was a more. Oh, for sure. I know. I know. We just didn't find it in the maze. You know it had to be in the maze somewhere. Next time we're finding the more.
Starting point is 00:23:00 We're going back for a second round. We're going to find the more. We're not welcome back. Oh, yeah. We're talking about you. We're forever. That was pretty clear. But whatever, it's fine. We don't keep warnings.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Not listen to Robert. I found some articles from 1953 when it happened. And the desert news out of Oregon said, quote, this is really gross. The smell of death hung in the smoke, screaming men and women trapped under debris in the destroyed cities on the three islands, slowly burned to death. It's awful. And they said, and one of the officials that was on the island were saying, and this was like days later, said 10 minutes ago, we just had a terrible shock.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I saw a mountain sliding into the sea. Oh. Literally quoted as saying that. Yeah. The Los Angeles Times said, quote, people mad with fear are throwing themselves into the sea. Oh my God. Yeah. So it was a lot. That's a lot going on. So that's a lot of energy that's going to be. Yeah. A lot of bad stuff. It was decommissioned in January, on January 30th, 1959, and it was stored at the Philadelphia shipyard. She was brought to Quincy in October 1994, so a long time, where she sits today. She's a piece of the United States Naval and Shipbuilding Museum.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So I was looking further into, I was like, there has to be like something else, because I know they mentioned a couple of other like, ship fires that happened elsewhere that they brought bodies up on board. Lots of fire. You can't find a ton of stuff about them, but I did find this one article, so I found two different things.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I found one that said on October 1st, 1956, South of France, the John R. Peer ship, which they mentioned. You can't find anything about that. But I found one thing. Makes me even heavier. Yeah, there's one article that I found. It's like a little blurb in a newspaper. And it said they were doing a training exercise in 1956 and a shell exploded in the loading
Starting point is 00:25:02 breach, which I don't know. I think they were loading a gun or turret that was already loaded. Yeah. And it caused an explosion. Yep. I read that. And at least four people were killed in that one.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And a ton more were injured. And before their deaths, three of the injured were cared for by doctors on the USS Salem. So they were killed. They were killed in that explosion, but they were brought and tried to be saved and they died on the ship, right? Also, did you guys notice how small the hospital was? So it's now that it's so cramped. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:25:34 You would have been all over it, like just everything. And that's the thing, there are like 190 people died. I'm like, there's no way 190 people were in that one room. Yeah. Like I know that's kind of dark to think about, but you know, like the screams and that. Yeah. It's all the pain in that one room. Yeah, like I know that's kind of dark to think about, but you know, like the screams and the ad,
Starting point is 00:25:46 all the pain and that one tiny room. Which makes sense. And these are like brutal deaths too, so it's like blood. Yeah, all kinds of stuff happening. They're like on top of each other, just like really gross, but like chirping on each other. No, it's gonna happen. This is gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:26:01 The bed's had stains too. Oh, they're definitely not original though. There's no way. I don't know. I feel like the bones of those beds are original. Oh, geez. Yeah, like not the cloth, but yeah. Those mattresses look pretty old too.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Those mattresses look really look underneath. And then when we went down to the jail, those stains, those were authentic. Yeah, those were my shoes. Those were my shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure. A lot of DNA on that word, I would say. But we, and I will say, so these guys that came over from the John R. Pierce, they were burned to death.
Starting point is 00:26:44 So they, there is like a burning man ghost. Yes, yeah. And they say that you will smell a little bit of, I think of that every time. You said it immediately. You will smell that burning smell. And I didn't think of it at the time, but when we went down that wrong hatch into that like wilds control room that had like the big yeah, you know, it looks like it was like a what does it call the Oh girl with a radar
Starting point is 00:27:10 around it. It was like you looked at me for that. I was like that thing. I was like a boy said Franklin. It's weird. I remember having a punk smell. It's weird. I remember having a punk smell.
Starting point is 00:27:20 I remember having a punk smell. I remember having a punk smell. I remember having a punk smell. I remember having a punk smell. Yeah, I'm trying to hit it. I'm. Shoot, yeah, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, yeah. I don't know exactly what smell it was. It was a strong smell.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah, I don't know if it was like machinery though, because I couldn't want my machinery. But that machine, like none of it's going. Yeah, you're right. I mean, but even still like the area near the portal, like that's like a heavy smell. But that's because it's leaking, you're right. So I was just like, yeah, you could be on to something.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And when we went up, I looked into that room and you could see like those little like the pencils, the big pencils. And one of them was like in one of the loading things. And I was like, huh, yeah, it was like, maybe we're small and burning bodies. Yeah, we're gonna have to go back. We have to spend more time. Part two, let's go.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And then I found one final thing that nobody, this wasn't brought up at all, but I was like, I don't know, maybe this could be weird. In October, 1955, a newspaper article said, Coast Guard recovers body off Long Island. Now, you would be like, what the fuck does that have to do with this? Yeah. So the body of the article was super short,
Starting point is 00:28:23 like literally like, boom. And it said, the body believed the article was super short, like literally like, boop. And it said, the body believed to be that of a sailor reported missing three weeks ago from the USS Salem burst at the Boston Naval Shipyard was recovered today off Long Island by a Coast Guard boat. The body was taken to the Harbor Police Station where it was turned over to police. An officer from the USS Salem will view the body today in an attempt to identify it. Police said the body wasn't dressed in dungaries.
Starting point is 00:28:50 That's how they ended the article. He was wearing jeans. He had jeans on. Like a gross denim. And his name was Robert. He was a sailor from the U.S.S. Salem. He was missing for three weeks. And he was found, sounds like foul play.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Sounds like foul play, or did he do the foul play and like, how dad did the thing? Is that what you're thinking? Because I couldn't find who he was. I couldn't find any of that, but I was like, that's interesting. Like, he unalived himself to that thing. Maybe, maybe. That's kind of what I'm thinking. He then met foul play or he, he introduced himself to it. Yeah. I see. I see. So, could be damn. That's the thing is that the ship. Yeah, newspapers.com, man. Yeah, the best.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Newspapers.com is our favorite thing over here. So I love that thing. So yeah, with all that being said, there's some ghosts on board that we saw. I think so. Didn't see, but you know, they're there. Felt. So the first thing that I found was this man named John
Starting point is 00:29:45 Connor. He used to be a marine officer on board and now he's the ship's head archivist. I think that's why he's saying that. He was working on board a few years ago around 2019 so you know this place is still active as ever and he was downstairs and what our guy Don calls the maize. That's where the sailors used to sleep and like these little cots just stacked on top of one another. The birthing area I think. Because when he set it up first, I thought he actually meant a birthing area. That's why I thought too. I was like, excuse me, like women were on the ship. Right, I'm so relieved because I was like, wow, I'm dumb. I'm breathing down. I have a way to answer E, not in the room. Yeah, when I said, I was like, oh, that's not the same. Yeah, not the same. But yeah, the way that the cops are just stacked on top of one
Starting point is 00:30:26 another in three is so creepy. But John was down there and he's making his way through the room. And all of a sudden, he heard somebody call out his name. And so he turns around and he kind of looks about, but nobody's there. So he was like, hello, like anybody out there and the number one thing you're not supposed to do in horror movies.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And nobody answered him. So, he says that on board, he has heard footsteps. It doesn't, that doesn't bother him too much, but he says what does freak him out is the feeling that somebody's watching him. Oh, God. Did you guys feel that way last night? Like you were being watched? I felt more like we were being followed.
Starting point is 00:31:00 That's, that's how I felt like I was being followed. Yeah. Like getting that like weird feeling on like your shoulders when you get like tense because somebody's behind you. You know, like, right. Plus some areas would be colder than others, which just makes sense. So much colder at our heat pockets and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah. Yeah. It was super weird. So we will start with another John. This John is not among the living, but people will spot him near the anchor room. And we heard a story about him as soon as we got on board. Ooh, yep.
Starting point is 00:31:28 This guy, we all know. So, even before stepping foot on the boat, we also heard this story. But there have been instances in the past where he's shown up as people's tour guide. And they will go through the entire tour, and at the end of it, they'll be like, oh, Don, who was our kind of tour guide. That guy, John, he showed us around this whole place. It was awesome. And Don is like, yeah, John died a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Like, that was not a tour guide. I think that's adorable. I do too. I love it. He's just still working in the afterlife. Like, John's so nice. This is like, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to be like, that's the most chilling thing.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I love it. I just walked around by another tour guy that wasn't alive. I feel like that's slow terrifying. I feel like he was welcoming, you know? Yeah. But I kind of think I'm like, is that John, the previous John, like he, like the one John was calling the other John,
Starting point is 00:32:16 you know, downstairs in that maze? He's connected. You never know. John is like a very common name. Yeah, truth. So that one would be like, all right. Honestly, like 45 people on that boat were probably named John.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Oh, literally every other sailor was John. Oh, for sure. But that brings us to the Burning Man. And before I get into that, now I'm kind of having a thought when you and I passed that room coldly. Yes. And we felt that heat on our faces.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yes. Yeah. Maybe that was some kind of like residual like burning man haunting. I did read that that was the thing last night when I couldn't sleep and I was setting up freaking myself out of the morgue. Yeah, yeah. I read that there like people will feel like bursts of heat like fire.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Oh, that's exactly the style. Yeah, like an explosion felt right? It was like, you said it was like a blast. One hit. It wasn't super hot right? Like you didn't feel like it was super hot. No, no, no. But such a marked difference from the cold on the ship.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Definitely because it was what, 30 degrees on the ship. Probably even colder, yeah. So it was definitely like a gust of warm air for sure, which wouldn't come from anywhere. There was no heaters, of course. No, definitely. It was coming from an X-ray room too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 But obviously everything was off, of course. Yeah, yeah. So I thought I was crazy at first. I was like, okay, maybe I shouldn't even say that, but then you felt it too. Yeah, yeah, it was definitely weird. crazy at first. I was like, okay, maybe I shouldn't even say that but then you felt it too Yum. Yeah, it was definitely weird and it feels like it was kind of like when you walk by a fireplace or something Yeah, if like a breeze happens you get that like Yeah, it's not like crazy hot, but you're like
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, yeah, it's noticeable definitely noticeable which leads us to the burning man So he said to be the spirit of a Greek man who passed away on the USS Salem while he was being treated for serious, serious burns when he was involved in the explosion on the USS Cleveland. And that explosion kind of like you were saying Sam came when they loaded a gun that was already loaded. And many, many people were injured like you said Elena. So we heard that people would smell burned flush on board. And that was the telltale sign that he was near. But then Don kind of told us that that was BS. That there is no burning man.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And that was our tour guide. Yeah. I don't know. I completely disregarded that. But then we kind of got evidence of it. Yeah. So I don't know what to believe. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I feel like that heat that hit us was a burning man. He just presents himself to different people. I feel like. I think you could be just doesn't present himself to Don. Yeah, maybe just doesn't fuck with Don. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, right. And then like you were saying you smelled it. So I think, yeah, it might be something weird. For sure. Yeah. Now another debunk or possible debunk, because we're not so sure was the drill to debunk. We didn't get to debunk that one. The drill in the dentist office, we read before going on
Starting point is 00:34:45 to the ship that it went off by itself, not so sure about this one, because in that area, there is a bit of like buzzing in the hallway. I don't really know what that buzzing comes from. That's true, if everything's off, what was it? I know. Maybe like a light fixture or something. There was still lights on the boat.
Starting point is 00:35:01 There were, yeah, you're right. But I feel like a dental drill is like a different sound. When people say they see it turn on and like and see it move. And you know a dental drill. It's like that. Oh, yeah. A different kind of thing. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:35:14 So we didn't experience that, but that is one of the possible haunts on the ship. So now we get to the chief. And he is one of the most active spirits on board. And one of the most temperamental. If you disrespect the ship in any way, shape or form, which called me about no last night, he will become very, very angry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Now he was really angry about this Halloween haunted house that was going on on the ship recently, like a couple of years back, actually. I guess people were not being the most respectful and was dawn saying that fires were started on board, I didn't understand if you were saying that was because of the chief, or like... He made it seem like the chief was causing fires. That's what I thought, right?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Yeah. And I was like, I wanted to ask more, but I was like, what now? Because I was like, what do you mean he's starting fires? I was like, did the haunted house people get so, like, unruly that they started fires? Yeah. And the chief do it. Because both of these are intense.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah. He just said like a bunch of the ghosts were like mad that they were setting up those things and then yeah, combusted the little props that were part of the haunted house. Right. So weird. I mean, that's really intense.
Starting point is 00:36:17 You know, you don't hear about that, you hear about pokes and footsteps. Yeah. But spontaneous combustion. Like, you think that's a virus. Intense, actually. It's like next level. Yeah. The chief has a red ball in hand for sure. I's the 10th section. That's like next level. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:26 That she has a red bull in hand for sure. We know that he definitely does. But he is most often reported in the third deck mess hall. And I heard that men with long hair are known to be pushed by him. He doesn't like men with long hair. Gotta have a tie-in tight. Yeah, exactly. And then our guy don't, our, yeah, our guide Don told us that our guy as well.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Our guy. Our guy and our God. He told us that during a kid-driven spirits investigation that those people on board really wanted to find out the chief's name. No one's ever been able to determine it even to this day because they did push Don to get like a little intense with the chief and told him, give them your damn name. That's what Don said to the chief. And in response, so Don.
Starting point is 00:37:08 So Don. So our guy, Don. But in response, they got an EVP that said, fuck you, Don. That's the best EVP ever had. I love this. I love that one. And then I heard that there was another EVP believed to be the chief in which he said, I'm pissed because I don't wanna be here.
Starting point is 00:37:26 But he felt like he had to be there to protect his ship. And that's what we heard, yeah. Yeah. Do you guys think we experienced the chief last night at all? When we were in the mess hall, let's talk a little bit about the mess hall. Yeah. Oh my God. I mean, we didn't disrespect the ship, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I don't know. I don't know. I think we were very respectful. Maybe we just didn't disrespect him. We were just in the same on. We absolutely were. Yeah. But the mess hall when we went in there, we kind of talked a little bit about like the music box and that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Okay. So for people listening right now, the music box is basically a motion detector. So anything that goes in front of it is just going to play a creepy song. And we got this new music box that barely goes off usually but in this room for whatever reason wherever we would point it, it would just go off constantly. Not even like stop for a second, just constant. And so we tried, okay, let's try it in the hallway turned off. Let's try it in another room turned off. But never stop. Yeah, even in the hallway pointing towards the room, it would go off.
Starting point is 00:38:25 It was like people were like walking around, like milling around the room. Yeah, interesting is on the way down to the mess hall. I asked out to all the spirits. Everybody who's around here in the USSA, I reported the mess hall and come in with us. I thought they did. They did. Yeah, they listened.
Starting point is 00:38:41 What's interesting is later on that night, we got like, okay, how many people are here? Said several. Okay, can you be like more specific? Says nine. So maybe there were like a large group of spirits that followed us into the mess. Or could have just been residual energy. Like something like a time loop,
Starting point is 00:39:01 like a trap or something that we, like they didn't even know we were there. Type that. Yeah, they're just going about their day. Trapped in time forever. Yeah, then we put the flashlights out and that didn't seem residual haunting at all. That seemed legit. I mean, especially when you got weird around that.
Starting point is 00:39:17 It was like, ask long questions and then do a countdown of three, two, one, and then point, boom, instantly, like, and then point, bow, instantly. How do you explain that? That's several times. Yeah, these are just normal, like, home-debo flashlights. They twist on, twist off. And then we just basically put them around the room.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And if you tap them, they will be able to turn on, turn off. I mean, but it would take kinetic energy. It would take like physical movement to turn something on, and turn something off. Right. And they were answering questions back and forth to us. They really weren't intelligent. Yeah. And at the countdown. So that was like, whenever you count down from three and it was like, boom.
Starting point is 00:39:53 That was completely just off the entire time. Yeah. Besides that. Yeah. It was too much. I think Robert was in there because. Because Robert, I think, has just believed to be like a sailor on board. I think so. We're not totally sure who he is. Well, we heard Don told us that Lucy,
Starting point is 00:40:10 who we'll talk about in a second, Lucy's a little girl ghost. Lucy and her mom had said to them during some session that they were scared of Robert exactly and they wouldn't go near him. And so I didn't like Robert right from the beginning. I was just going to say, you said to me immediately, as soon as Don just gonna say, you said to me immediately, as soon as Don brought up Robert, you said to me immediately, you were like, I don't like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I don't like Robert. Yeah, you're kind of like, I don't know what it was. I just had a feeling about Robert. And then we're sitting there in the mess hall, and I think it was really before we even, I think we were kind of working with the flashlights. And you're like, is this Robert? And it kind of seemed like it was,
Starting point is 00:40:43 and then do you wanna share what happened to you, Lena? I suddenly felt like this like really cold like ice cold breath like shoot into my ear. And it also tickled so it felt like something like a bug. I thought it was like a bug or something which I was like, how the hell is a bug on the ship? And it's like five degrees. But it felt like a bug tickled down my ear. Well like ice cold. It made me jump out of my seat because I was like, what the hell was that? I'm also not kidding.
Starting point is 00:41:09 You hurt ear was still cold this morning. Yeah, it's like this morning. I was like, she was like, my ear is still freezing. And I was like, I'm out of that. I literally held both of her ears and I was like, this one is so heavy. I was like, it's weird. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Don, Don was saying that like Robert being like a sailor, being creepy towards like women and stuff, he would blow in two years and stuff like that or like mess with girls and weird ways. And he told us that in the mess hall. So I think he even specified the ear thing. I think he said people get like blown on their ears. He did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:43 He did, yeah. It was crazy about that mess hall is his story about the Ouija boards. Oh my God. Oh my God. He got so low. Like really threw me off about the mess hall. It was you saying, you know, that's the main section where they do Ouija board sessions. And at one point, I think he said, I happened multiple times, they were doing the Ouija board
Starting point is 00:42:03 and it would, you know, spell out whoever was in the room with them, but not only would the plan chat be moving around, the actual physical board would spin in circles on the table in front of their eyes. And he was saying it was like trying to pick this one girl, like it was spelling out her name and it kept turning to her specifically. Another girl instance.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah. And we're gonna find out about girls on the ship later. Like I think we'll end with that little little ship down. Yeah, a bunch of pervy sailors on this ship. For sure. And I'm like, do you want us here? Do you not want us here?
Starting point is 00:42:32 We'll talk about that in like a little minute. But yeah, that was super creepy. And did he say that was when it spelled out murder? Oh yes, yes. Right, it wasn't the best time. We did that. Super creepy. Because they said like, what are your intentions?
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yes. Oh, yes, it's murder. And then all the other, these things went off. Yeah, it was the same time. Yep. I would have started. I would have ran off that ship. I would have left all of you there.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I would have like, I'm out. I feel like real talk. I'm surprised you guys did it. You guys did a really good job last night. Yeah, you got so long in your ears. Yeah, that was rough. That's true. I got poked, but if I had been blown in my ear, I think I would have started crying. Yeah, it was like that was an assault. Thank you. That was an assault. Actually, thank you. But one of the, one of the spirits that you just referenced, Elena is Lucy.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Lucy is a seven year old girl who is like you said, Elena believed to be on board the ship with both of her parents, her mom and dad. She manifests in singing and humming. And as soon as we walked into the kitchen, was it the kitchen area, Sam turned back to us and was like, did you guys just hear that? And did either of you guys hear? No, no, I didn't hear it. No, I didn't hear it because I was looking at the cool old phone on the wall. Yeah, same. Like, just like, anti-exfoliants. Yeah, exactly. But I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, you know, yell, moan off in the distance, like, oh, or something like that. And later,
Starting point is 00:44:26 we asked Don about that specific instance, and he said, that's exactly how Lucy manifests. And he hadn't said that before. He did not say that. He was a little girl, but he never said she hums or she sings or anything like that. So yeah, and we know it was Lucy in that room because what was that she loved you? E-M-F-E-M-F-E-D-R. And E-M-F-E-D-R. So we got, I think that was even before you you? E-M-F-E-M-F-E-D-R. E-M-F-E-D-R. I love that. So I think that was even before you got the E-M-F-E-R-E-D-R. Yeah, I just had one.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And we started saying, is there spirit in the room with us? And it started popping all of us. And then we kind of said, OK, is it Lucy? And it started really, really going down. You were also holding it at little kid level? Right. Yeah, it was wild. Like, she was holding it down. And it almost looked like it could be a little kid that was coming kid level. Yeah, to this wild, like she was holding it down,
Starting point is 00:45:05 and it almost looked like it could be a little kid that was coming towards it. Yeah, it definitely looked. Yeah, Ash, I feel like there was something empathic about you that night. Yeah. For whatever reason after that moment, Lucy seemed to follow. Lucy loved Ash everywhere.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I would have preferred Lucy. I'm half-carned. I would have preferred Lucy to be on it. I was like, I would have preferred Lucy, but this is Robert. Yeah. I think I won, Lucy. You did. You won that one. I'm just starting to see what it preferred though. Lucy versus Robert. Yeah. I think I won. You did.
Starting point is 00:45:26 You won that one. I'm starting to wonder if it was Lucy that poked me in the back, because I was thinking about it last night in like the area where I got poked was my lower back. And then actually one of your girls poked me this morning like on like the other side of me. And I was like, oh my, into the field. They are seven. And Lucy's known to be seven.
Starting point is 00:45:43 So like probably similar heights. Yeah. And then we were trying to figure out cause I got poked when we were in the operating theater, the operating theater. And I was like, was it a nurse that poked me? Was it Robert? Was it this other guy Frank we heard about
Starting point is 00:45:57 and we didn't get anything. Nothing. And then I think Lucy was kind of freaked out in that room. It seemed like, you know? And then I wonder if Robert was in there and she was freaked out and poking you for like, like Robert's here.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I like you, Robert's here. Cause then that ovulence was being so pervy. Yes. As soon as I held it, he was saying the grossest shit. I was like, this is definitely Robert. I thought like, you just let it perfectly there. Cause I just wrote down that he was flirting with us for sure. Oh for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Like, sure. Quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, flirting. I don't even know if you call it that. I don't think we were even talking to this guy that we were at all on to us. Yeah, real gross. No, it was saying, he started off saying, moan.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Moan, which is what you heard. Yep. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And we were in the operating theater, so we were like, this makes sense. But we were like, okay, like did somebody have surgery in here and then it was like bed, tees, sprays.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Right, which I think. And there was like four steps there. I was like, I heard stir-ups, excuse me. I was like, this is too much. I think that was the second and the other. Yeah, I just had that over after that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This would be yours, then.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But while we were in that room, it said knee and leg. And we were like, kind of trying to figure out what that meant. And then a couple hours later, we walked by this other portion of that room and saw a fucking X-ray of a knee. Yes. With like a hole in the middle of the room, it was like injured or something, but also the ovulet said, temperature.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And when we walked by that X-ray room, we felt like he came. Yes. It's where we're doing this. It's weird. All of it kind of seemed to like start connecting throughout the investigation. For sure. It was weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:33 So then another ghost is Franco Bryan. He is active in the hospital room. And I personally think that he and Robert were the ones that essentially chased me in a lane out of the safe space. Aggressively escorted us off the boat. Yeah. So they did.
Starting point is 00:47:50 We want to go a little into what happened there. So because I still have PTSD. Well, we started out. Maybe you guys should talk about because I don't know what the little boxes called that did like the yes-nose. And the little one. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Before that. Because it kind of started. When we first went in there during the tour, that was the only spot that you guys got like a really good feeling. And we heard a noise. And it was the only room we heard a noise in during the lights on tour. And SideNote Dawn showed us a picture of an operation or a operation in that room.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And it was the only one that was caught. And that was four real. Yeah, look like a human. A straight up human. Yeah. Anyway, so when we went back, I mean, the hospital, according to Don, is currently the most haunted section of the entire ship.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And so we're, all right, we'll save that for last. And we were very much ramping up with a lot of the spirits talking, and inviting multiple sections of the boat, also this hustle, which is probably not the best idea. Because this is after the mess hall where things kind of really started to ramp up. After the portal, which is where we saw there's nine people, I don't know. Anyway, so we got down in there and we set down this music box and again, this is only supposed to go off when you're there's physical motion.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Like you set it up there that calibrates or whatever. And multiple times before we started this investigation, there was motion detected walking towards us. And we're just like, oh God, let's start. This is a great sign. So we put this device down called the OnVoy, which it works on a physical tap, so you have to go up and actually hit it. And it can choose, or say yes or no and so
Starting point is 00:49:26 we were able to ask different questions and you know probably like process will and elimination we found out we were talking to Franco Bryant. Yeah and we asked him how he felt that we were there and it has like little faces on it like that control emotion. Yeah and what he hit puzzled right like he seemed confused. Yeah. And then angry after that or shocked right. Yeah it, like that control emotion. Yeah. And he hit puzzled, right? Like he seemed confused that he had a very angry after that or shocked, right? Yeah, it was like puzzled and like scared. Scared, scared, scared. That's what it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:54 So then that was kind of like the end where we were like, okay, like should we go into this little room because there's this little room off of the hospital. And it's just like a bathroom. It's literally just a bathroom. Like a gross old bathroom. Like when I looked in there, I was like, there's a toilet. I it's just like a bathroom. It's literally just a bathroom. Like a gross old bathroom. Like when I looked in there, I was like, there's a toilet in here. I mean, keep in mind guys.
Starting point is 00:50:09 What is this? Thank you my entire time. It is not wanting to respond to Colby and I. Like it is only responding to the girls. Yeah, it's over and over again. It is so weird. Yeah, because you guys would ask a question and then one of us would ask the same question
Starting point is 00:50:21 after you didn't get anything. And it'd be like, boom. Like, yeah. You're being ignored. It was pretty creepy. The only thing I'd answered you guys on was when you said, like, how do you feel? would ask the same question after you didn't get anything. And it would be like boom. Like, yeah. In the media. It was pretty. The only thing I've answered you guys on was when you said, like, how do you feel? Like, are you happy that the girls are here?
Starting point is 00:50:31 And it's like no. No. And it's said no twice in a row. And I almost was like, is that because there's two of us? Like, no, and no. I don't want you to be here. I'm either of you. So then Sam and Colby dipped because we were doing like
Starting point is 00:50:42 a little, I don't even know. A lone investigation., alone investigation. Alone investigation. So we went into the safe space and one of the first things that you and I noticed, there was a crutch hanging on the wall right behind me. And you did not touch this crutch. Like we have the video, it was swaying back and forth like crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And we were kind of just asking different questions like is there somebody in here with us? Like, is there a... In the pitch dark too you guys killed it? First investigation you go in that Thank you said it and I was like I feel like we just have to yeah We were like do you want like night vision or do you want the light camera and I was like Yeah, yeah, I would just put the obelisks like the light over there every once in a while just to make sure nothing was
Starting point is 00:51:27 there. That luckily helped. That was good. And the night vision camera too. I was like, OK, but then I started getting so scared that I was just like something was going to pop up on it. Because we got camera threat on the obelisks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:41 And then we got threshold. Well, it started with threshold. Yeah. And so I assumed it meant like the door threshold. Like it was staring at the door. And we were like, okay. And then we were like, do you want to come over here and like make this little box light up?
Starting point is 00:51:54 And it said maybe. We were like, okay. Yeah. And then I think you said something about the camera. And it was like camera. I said threat. Do you not like the camera on? And that's when it said threat.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And then we, I said, do you want us to turn the camera off? And it went, and then we heard the crash. A huge crash. Like, and you guys thought it was us. You guys were running out for some reason and like dropped something. And so we were just standing there like, okay, here they come. Yeah, they did it. They broke something on the way.
Starting point is 00:52:23 We were two rooms away. So they were in a far room, then there was a hospital in between us, and then we were in the far hallway past that. So it was, you know, probably 70 feet away or whatever. In that crash, sounded like it was in the hospital, like in one of the corners. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:38 But then, so it said, as we, as we heard that crash, we started running out, and the Oculus said abort forever Contrition yeah, and then a vinegar and you want to explain vinegar Yeah, so I found like a little it's because contrition is like you know repenting like feeling Yeah, remorseful. Yeah, remorseful for your sins and so I was like, oh, okay, that's creepy and then it said vinegar and I was like That's creepy. And then it said vinegar, and I was like, that's weird. Yeah, I was like, then I looked it up,
Starting point is 00:53:07 and vinegar is like a part of like cleansing, in religion, and you're trying to, yeah, and there's like a whole line from the Bible that says something about like vinegar, to like, you know, cleanse your mouth of these like evil things. And when it's like, cleanse your mouth, I had been swearing the entire time we were in that room,
Starting point is 00:53:24 and I was literally just dropping F-bombs like that. Right, because I was so scared. So I was like, I think they were, it was a mixture of them being pissed that we were in the safe space and then maybe the swearing. Yeah, they could've been, we ran the fuck out of there. And that was the end, but I did skip a really important part
Starting point is 00:53:41 which was the portal where Sam got personally victimized by Richard George. It was a really other ghost. It was a really other ghost, yes. port in part, which was the portal where Sam got personally victimized by a huge force. It was a great other ghost. And the other ghost, yes. So there is a door on, like the far side of the ship is the only way I can think to describe it. We had no idea where the fuck we were. We're the anchor.
Starting point is 00:53:57 We're the anchor. We're the last room in the house. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So it's believed to be a place where even spirits who are not on board can actually cross through the portal and get on to the ship. And our guide Dawn actually saw one of his departed relatives on board. He said he used to work nearby Yeah, on the on different ships and he just saw his was it his brother? His cousin his cousin just on board one day and he said yeah, I came through the portal. So John figured out where the portal was.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I was fucking down. Yeah, fucking down. That was so good. That was so good. So while we were there, we were kind of just like standing in front of it. And we had the Oculus and we had the EMF readers. And you started to ask questions, Sam.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And it really started kind of victimizing you. Do you want to tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, you guys are going to help me out the storm. Yeah, sure. Yeah, basically, we got to stand in front of the portal, and what was crazy is, I think, Alana, you had the EMF, and it was going off a ton. It's like red. And then as soon as we opened the door to the portal, it went off.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Like completely stopped, like going off at all, as if someone the door to the portal it went off. Like completely stopped. Yeah. Like going off at all as if someone had left your area and went through a portal. And so we just said, okay, well, maybe we should go stand inside the portal. Yeah, great. So we had this awful list and we're like, all right, you know, it was there. Is the person here talking to us? Someone that's followed us throughout the night.
Starting point is 00:55:23 We're looking for a loose or something. This is several. As if there is multiple spirits there. And we're like, okay, well, can you be more specific? Can you give us a name? Is there like how many? It says nine. Give us a number.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And it said it intense. That's the thing. It was the way it's done. Nine. Nine. It was scary. And then I forget why, but you were like, should I go in? Like, should I step in the portal?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Or you said, where are you and it said, turn. Oh, that is what it was. And you were right next to the door when you turned. So then you kind of thought like, I should step in here. And as soon as you stepped in, I said, did that make you guys happy that Sam's in there now? And they said, the Oculus said, they. They, it's them happy. Yeah. Right there now. And they said, the Oculus said, they, they,
Starting point is 00:56:05 it's them happy. Yeah. Right as like I was deep in this, like the room, this dark room, I said, Oh my god, we should let that. Yeah. I think it also said, didn't it say evil while we're over there?
Starting point is 00:56:16 Yeah, and basement and cellar. Yeah, I want to say cellar when we were in the safe place. It did say cellar. When we were in the not fucking safe place. Yeah, cellar. And I was like, I'm not in the cellar. Yeah, I Sessler. When we were in the not fucking safe place. It said Seller, and I was like, I'm not in the seller. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going down there.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah, I think of that. Craig went wrong. We were talking to someone named Skip. Skip, right? Yup, yup. So Skip, according to Dawn, is one of the sailors that likes to be a trickster. He's a liar.
Starting point is 00:56:41 He likes to lie to people and mess with like, you know, mess with them. Pretends he's Lucy. Yeah, pretends he is Lucy and I think we got that to like I said like nine years or something like that. And he would say he was like a nine year old girl. And that's how they knew that he was lying because Lucy is seven. Yeah, so he was messing with us. I think he was the one that was like, oh, there's an evil basement.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah, he was trying to lure us away or something. I don't know. That was just completely bizarre. How many things in a row made sense? Yeah, skip. That's the thing. It all just, like the puzzle pieces just started fitting together.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yeah. But I would definitely say overall, like if anybody listening wants to go on the USS Salem, the most active rooms are for sure the mess hall, the hospital, and that portal area. Yeah, I'm gonna agree. And I would say two for us, that operating theater. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah. That would be Salary. That's where I got poked. Yeah. Right, and that was where they were like talking up a storm and being like, I don't know if I would recommend anybody going there, because I felt a little. I felt a little.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Yeah, I don't. It's about your sailors. It's about your sailors that didn't see women for who knows how long. Don did warn us of that. He did, by the way, their sailors. And he said, Franka, and of course Alina had to ask. She was like, did Franco-Brain's wife have blonde hair? Or blonde hair?
Starting point is 00:57:58 She was blonde, so. Oh, wait, that just reminds me. In the operating room, you guys were talking about your husbands or whatever. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because when he was getting per room, you guys were talking about your husbands or whatever. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, because when it was getting pervy, I was like, I'm a married woman. Yes, and then I said, I'm a married woman.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah, and he said, marry. He actually said, marry on the off of this. Yeah. And I was like, I they're making fun of that or being a mother, you understand? Yeah, yeah. Or like married, like who cares? Yeah, it was weird.
Starting point is 00:58:19 It's always weird. It's just crazy how immediately, as soon as we started all the way throughout the entire night, it seemed to be targeting you girls like over and over and over You were the only one that got touched like blown in the ear and people were targeting you are answering only you guys back And then you guys heard the crash yeah Not even us it didn't even feel like that lot of a crash when we watch back the footage I was like, I'm not sure how much back the footage was. Oh wait, I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:58:43 I was so loud in that room. And we booked it out of there. We leapt over all your equipment. I was like doing like leaps and bounds. I was like, we gotta go. And it was like an obstacle to get out to. It was like a million bells. Oh, I ran into a bed.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Yeah, on the night vision, dude. You probably like, oh God, what do I do? Yeah, yeah. And there was this like, plexiglass, like, gate, that if you came out of the little face place, you could go left and just leave the room but they had plexiglass like gate that if you came out of the little face place, you could go left and just leave the room but they had plexiglassed it off. So I went to turn left and I was like,
Starting point is 00:59:09 I don't know. I just had to go through the room. Should have just like hopped over it. I was about to. It was fucking hard. I wasn't even gonna realize you weren't right behind me and I was like, oh no, I've just left her. And then you left me in the dust.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I thought you were right. I was like, wait for me. No, but you stopped running your tracks. Now you know how I feel when they run out. Yeah, I was so scared. I was like, wait for me. No, but you stopped bringing your tracks. I didn't stop. I didn't stop. No, I was so scared. I was like, I'm gonna get stuck in here. I'm gonna get stuck in here.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I'm so like, I'm gonna get stuck in here. Oh man, I'm gonna get out of here. But if you guys want to see, like instead of just hearing about what happened while we were on the USS Salem, you gotta go over to, yeah, that's gonna be exploreclub.com and probably like a month in December.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Month in a year. Like before the end of the year for sure. So awesome. We'll have all those, but we'll definitely post some clips all of our social media and stuff. Yay, yeah, so go follow them. Do you guys wanna plug your, your apps?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Just add Samuikovie. Yeah, add Samuikovie and everything. And yeah, this video on exploreclub.com. You'll find us, yeah. it's a link to it in the show. Of course we will. Yeah, thank you. But yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it was so much fun. It's taking us. Thank you. What do you guys think after all? I mean, it's been less than 12 hours. Like, how are you feeling today? I was I was jumpy last night. I was sure jumpy. You got out of my car and my car does this thing where it automatically stops and then kind of turns on if there's movement.
Starting point is 01:00:30 It sounds like a revs. I thought you were gonna jump into the trees. Because I opened the car door and I was saying something to her and it was silent and it went, and I was like, what is this? It was just a... It was like, what is that? But all of us when we went off the ship,
Starting point is 01:00:43 Don told us how to be like, nobody follow us home. We're not welcome and all did like a chant of that as we were going out. But I definitely felt jumping last night, and then I staged my room when I felt fine. Yeah, I saw on your story, the stories, the like, three dozen times or whatever. Yep, yep. Feel like you're going to go, go Sunday again. Oh, I won't, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Yeah. I want to go on all your investigations now. Yeah. Anytime you want to have us, we're doing it. We have to. Yeah. You feel more confident in talking to spirits or you feel like it's still scary. I loved it. I like it. I'm definitely freaked out by it, but I like it. I don't think I could ever do a demonic hunt. Like you guys were talking about, I don't think that's something I would want to fuck with. Yeah, that's a whole different feeling. I kinda wanna do one.
Starting point is 01:01:26 That takes, that checks. Yeah. I will be, you guys can livestream that, and I will be on my couch. There we go. Warning, Veliska X, Merger House. That's kinda, there's some dark stuff there. I wanna do it.
Starting point is 01:01:39 If you wanna go. I wanna do it. I would do that in a second. I was gonna say, I wanna do the Veliska House. Yeah. But keep me out of the demon stuff. That's good. But yeah, thank you guys so much.
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