Morbid - Episode 401: The Violent Deaths of Bog Bodies

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

Alaina brings us something a little different this week, BOG BODIES! All across the world in different bogs, bodies have been found almost perfectly preserved. All because of a simple little ...landscaping tool: Peat Moss. And your peat moss might just be haunted. Alaina tells us of 9 different Bog Bodies that have been discovered throughout the years, one of which landed a murderer in prison for the rest of his life. And if you love this episode, don’t worry there are plenty more Bog Bodies to be covered in the future.Bog Bodies Uncovered: Solving Europe's Ancient Mystery by Miranda Aldhouse-Green (Link:https://www.amazon.com/Bog-Bodies-Uncovered-Solving-Europes-ebook/dp/B012BH9DGQ/ref=sr_1_2?crid=28ZDF5XXTOXEE&keywords=bog+bodies&qid=1668630485&sprefix=%2Caps%2C51&sr=8-2))See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to morbid, early, and ad-free on Amazon music. Download the app today. You're listening to Immorbid Network Podcast. Hi, I'm Lindsay Graham, the host of Wondries Podcast American Scandal. Our newest series looks at the Kids for Cash Scandal, a story about two judges who stood accused of making millions of dollars in a brazen scheme that shattered the lives of countless children. Listen to American scandal on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Weirdos, I'm Alina.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I'm Ash. And this is morbid. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it.
Starting point is 00:00:58 I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. There it is. We are here. And you didn't forget your name this time. I didn't. I don't know what happened last time. I was late at night. Yeah, that's what it was. It was a late night recording.
Starting point is 00:01:12 I zoned out a bit. I had a moment. I had a feeling zony. I was just on a space level. I know, usually I feel like that's like a very me thing to do, but you were. It is. You were not here with us. I was on an ash level. Whoa, that's scary. I was us. I was on an ash level. That's scary.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I was not. I was on a space level. I don't think you've ever been on an ash level. Truly. Truly don't take I have wrap. Most people have. That's okay. Only ash.
Starting point is 00:01:37 But you know what? This is my level. Here we are. And we're gonna do something that is definitely is true crime, but it's like ancient true crime. Ooh, leave it to you. Because I've always been really interested in bog bodies. And you said that to me the other day and I said, I don't know what that means. She said, huh? I was like, are you talking about cranberry juice?
Starting point is 00:02:04 Um, no, not really. No. Although, uh, who likes cranberry juice? I think it doesn't drew yet. Yeah, it really likes cranberry juice. I just thought of that. Although, who likes, I thought you're like doing a poll really fast. I can't guys. Who likes cranberry juice? I also kind of was. I was going to be like, show of hands. Do you like cranberry juice? Cute that point loves cranberry juice and like not even cranberry juice cocktail like Regina George like yeah cranberry juice. That's a lot for me. Yeah, cranberry juice is very aggressive. It's to me. It's tart Very tart. Yeah, I this is so yucca's, but I used to drink it when I was constipated. That was little. I got constipated a lot when I was little.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And my mom would just give me some cranberry juice, and now I hate it. And it would work, apparently. Yeah, I owe it. That shit. That shit makes you shit. That shit will work. Yeah, I can't do a cranberry juice, but you know what? This isn't about cranberry juice.
Starting point is 00:03:02 This is about bog bodies, which are very far off from cranberry juice. Although I guess they're a little like, like, sour. They should. Their way of being is very sour. Look at the face of face. I can't. I wish you could see the face. It's literally ashy as just making a tart face, like, oh, my nose is all wrinkled.
Starting point is 00:03:23 So let's talk. I'm sure some of you have probably heard of bog bodies because they've been around making a tart face like my nose is all wrinkled. So let's talk. I'm sure some of you have probably heard of bog bodies because they've been around, like there's been a ton of discoveries in the last like several years of these, especially in Northern Europe. Well shit.
Starting point is 00:03:37 But they're not like, don't feel bad if you don't know what they are because like it's weird. And like they're not making as big a deal out of these as I think she would, because they make a big deal out of like the randomish shit. And like, they're not making as big a deal out of these as I think they should. Because they make a big deal out of like the randomish shit. But like, not the, I mean, this is pretty random shit, but it's very random shit.
Starting point is 00:03:52 But that's make a big deal of this. It's interesting. From what you've told me like a little tidbit. Yeah, these are whole ass people. Yeah, and in fact, oh, sorry, I interrupted, go ahead. Oh no, I was gonna say that have been preserved for like thousands of years. Okay, I'm glad I ahead. Oh, no, I was gonna say that I've been preserved for like thousands of years. Okay, I'm glad I let you go.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, because Alina was looking at like some pictures the other day going through this, and there was basically like the remains of somebody. And I thought that they had put a wig on this person. Yes, did they put a fucking wig on them? And Alina said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, that's exactly what I said. She said, that's his hair.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And I was like, what? And I was like, that's a 2000 year old's hair right there. That's so crazy. Yeah, it's wild. So let's talk about what bog, what bog, what bog bodies? What bog bodies are? I was in a place of like, no, our clear are. And you were like, let's get to some more bog bodies.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I don't know, let's get to some ball ballies. I don't know what's going on. Okay, tomato. That's tomato. So we're gonna talk about bog bodies. I'm gonna tell you what they are, how they form. What is in a bog that makes these bog bodies stay the way they are. That's my biggest question, because my first thought is the bog of eternal stench
Starting point is 00:05:02 from Labrins. That checks. That's literally, when I the bog of eternal stench from Labrins. That checks. That's literally when I hear bog of eternal stench is my next bog. I love that you think of that. Because as we know, I think of cranberry juice, but like the two ocean spray guys. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Whatever happened to them. What happened to them? I don't watch cable anymore, so maybe they're still there. Yeah, maybe they're still around. Just standing in the cranberry bog. I bet they are. They are. Cause bog bodies. Bog bodies. Preservatives. So, ancient. These are basically ancient. And I mean ancient, like from the Iron Age, old, like BCE. So these are ancient bodies found buried in Pete marshes and bogs. And again, like I said,
Starting point is 00:05:45 in northern Europe mostly. Okay. We're talking people from as long ago as 8,000 BCE. My brain just like can't even wrap itself around that. Outrageous. And by the way, BCE is before common era. Yes. And is a newer convention to date things and one that I like. So that's why I'm using it. I'm happy for you. Thank you. A lot of them seem to come from around,
Starting point is 00:06:11 like I said, the early Iron Age, which like, whoa. And I think that's somewhere around 500 BCE to 400 CE, which is Common Era. Okay. Like this is wild leo. We're in common era. We're in the common era.
Starting point is 00:06:29 That is not what it says out, it's outrageous leo. Like this is literally like before common era and then basically like after common era. So we're in the after. We're currently in the after I would say. Oh shit, okay. So this, but this is 400.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So this is way, like a long way Long ago whoa like three steps ago Outrageously old is the moral of this story like These are people who we would only be able to study From things that we find and if we find things it's like whoa We found this ancient thing from two thousand ago. Like it's always this amazing discovery. But now we've discovered whole-ass people, with their things still on them. Are there any cool things that we don't know about that we do now?
Starting point is 00:07:15 Well, the things aren't even what we're looking at here. It's more what happened to these people. Because a lot of these people died by straight up murder. Bog-Bardy bodies, I don't know why I keep saying parties. Bog-Bardies. Bog-Bardies, I don't know why it feels right. Okay. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It's not bog-bodies. There you go. It's hard to say. Yeah. Yeah. Hey there, fellow podcast listener, it's Elena. And Ash! And we're taking you back to the days before streaming services. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:07:56 You know when you would come home from high school and it was only a few hours until that TV show everyone was watching was about to come on? Well in 1999, that show was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. In our podcast with Wondery, the re-watcher Buffy the Vampire Slayer, we take it back to 1999. So get out your knee-high boots and paste that poster of Angel on the Wall. It's time to enter the Buffyverse. Some of you avid morbid listeners already know what we've gotten store.
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Starting point is 00:09:10 It's like some smiley face killer type shit. It's intense. And due to the biological magic of their very unique and specific environments, these bogs, they're found completely preserved, sometimes with all their hair, skin, and clothing still intact. Like, I thought you were done when it was the lady in the lake. I was like, oh wow, I can't get crazier than that. Never done. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:09:35 We are always ratcheting it up that huge notch. You are, for sure. Always trying to at least. I read a book called Bog Bodies Uncovered, Solving Europe's Ancient Mystery by Miranda Althouse Green. I bet you did. And it's real good. I'm gonna tag it in the show notes. If I had seen that on a library,
Starting point is 00:09:54 shelf I would have been, ho, Elena, that is for you. That's for my girl. I really like, she had a very good way of describing everything she went into, like, the violence associated with it. She covered so many of these bodies because there's so many. I'm only going to cover a little handful today. I'm doing like a couple parts. I might do a part two our lives. Yeah, talking about
Starting point is 00:10:16 more of these bodies because there's just so many interesting ones. But the way that she described and referred to bogs is something I really liked, which sounds weird I know, but she described them like this. She said, bogs were in our special places, myasmic and fearsome. They hover in the tween space between land and water. They are both and they are neither. Oh, that's an author. Right, like a really beautiful sentence to me. Also, can
Starting point is 00:10:45 we just like take a moment to study the author shouting out the author? Like check that out. Author supporting authors. TinyRaral.com slash the boacher and the rent. The amount of people that now say that to me, I'm like, yes, wish me without a shirt. I love it. You should tattoo that on yourself. There you go, just tattoo that word. I'll just tattoo it on my hand. The link will forever be active. But yeah, that's just like a really beautiful way of describing a bog.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Yeah, it absolutely is. It's something that is, you think of as like probably stinky and like gross like a bog. Yeah, when I think of a bog, I other than like my guys. Yeah, and the green bog. Of course, my ocean turntin. I also think of, I other than like my guys, in the green box, my ocean turman. I also think of swamps. Yeah, just like green bubbly, stinky water.
Starting point is 00:11:31 You know, and even like just yuckiness. It's so funny though, because cranberry bogs are beautiful. That's true, but bog of eternal stench. So, Pete is what we're talking about here. So, Pete Boggs. Now, Pete is a mature, what is that? Well, just like, I mean, I think Pete. Just Pete Boggs. You were like, Pete is what we're talking about here. So, Pete Boggs. Now, Pete is a material. What is that? Well, just thought you might have a thing. Pete.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Just Pete Boggs. You were like, Pete is what we're talking about here. And I was like, well, I was not up to speed then. Pete, PEAT. I had a minute to go see. Pete is a material created by the slow decomposition of organic matter and is often formed in these Boggs. The Boggs are what I described described above and a lot of things
Starting point is 00:12:06 can't really thrive in or around them unless they're very specific to bugs. So they're formed when shallow bodies of water have plants and such that will fall into the bodies of water. And because there's a massive lack of oxygen in these places, it will just lay there and decompose very slowly, like, very like hundreds and thousands of years. Basically hanging in a preserved state for quite some time, but making the body of water a bug and making the layers of organic material building up over time and decomposing very slowly become peat. Hmm. Now, sphagnum, it's sphagnum, it's hard to say sphagnum. No, you're the greatest. Sphagnum moss is actually one of the big reasons
Starting point is 00:12:53 why peat is able to preserve, and it sounds like I'm saying I'm ending peat. It does. It's why peat is able to preserve bodies and other organic material so well. Sphagnum lives in bog moss, and when the moss dies, it releases the Spagnum into the surrounding area in the bog water.
Starting point is 00:13:10 It actually turns if there's an organic, like a person in there, or even like an animal body, it will turn the skin leathery and kind of brown, looking like it will tan it, essentially. And any hair will seemingly be dyed a coppery red color. Oh, I thought that man's just had some mother fucking flow. That's it, because it does. It turns in a beautiful Auburn, like, coppery Auburn.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I feel like it's the red that you look that I go for. Yes. That is my, like, ooh, I want that red. Every time I see it, I'm like, that's the color. My hair stylist, girlies. It's like a 7, 3, 4, like a 7, ooh, I want that red. Every time I see it, I'm like, that's the color. My hairstylist grilles. It's like a 7, 3, 4, like a 7, 4, 3. There you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Next time I go to the hairstylist, I'm bringing a picture of a bog body to be like, that's the color I want. Go off, queen. Can you do a spagnum color? Do it. But either way, it's very interesting. So as you'll see any bog body that you will see is a dark color because they've
Starting point is 00:14:06 been tanned. Their hair is that fiery coppery, Auburn color, which makes it a little difficult to tell what their hair color was before that. Usually it ends up the more coppery it is, the more it was light it was in real life. I was going to say gray or blonde. That makes sense. Is it is it like a darker copper if they had darker hair? Exactly. So bog oaks are the only trees that grow around bogs. And the oak that falls into the bog
Starting point is 00:14:33 actually also helps with that preservation and tanning process as well. So it's like a mixture of things that need to come together. But when it does, it is like perfect preservation. That's crazy. Isn't it wild? Just like the shit that happens that we don't understand. Science is wild.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It really is. I'm majoring. I'm majoring. It's so interesting. Yeah. This was blowing my mind while I was reading it. You were blowing my mind. I'm blowing your mind.
Starting point is 00:14:59 So only when these bodies are discovered and then taken out and exposed to oxygen, because while they're under there, they're not getting any oxygen, only when these bodies are discovered and then taken out and exposed to oxygen, because while they're under there, they're not getting any oxygen. Only when they're taken out and the oxygen comes in contact with them, do they really begin to decompose naturally? But so many are still preserved today. They're able to keep them in like oxygen sealed tanks,
Starting point is 00:15:20 you know what I mean? But they have to do it quick. Yeah, yeah. The transfer process for these things, it's super delicate, super fast. You don't want to like fuck with this a lot because they'll start to just fall apart. Right. And they do eventually they will fall apart, but we can keep them for as long as we can. Now, some people believe that a lot of these bodies were placed in the bogs as like a warning, almost, or some kind of punishment, a warning to others, because some of them would be staked down in the bog and like held down in the bog.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Yeah. Sometimes through their limbs. Yeah. And sometimes while they were alive, they would be putting these bogs and then like stakes would be run through their arms while they were alive. And then they would be left there. And usually they were facing upward. So if somebody came to the bog, they would just see this pale face of a human, dead and lying stake down in the bog. Bok, a whole bunch of that.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah. And they were being punished because by doing this, they were remaining in the in-between place, where their body couldn't even decompose. Okay. So this was a punishment. Like we're not even going to allow your body to decompose in your soul to leave. Oh.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And if you're stuck in this bog, nothing's going to be able to remove your soul for the afterlife. You're going to be stuck here. It's like they were creating like man-made purgatory. Exactly. Because bogs have always kind of been looked at as a place where evil spirits live and dwell and they remain. So this would be somewhere, this would be somewhere to place someone you wanted to punish, putting them in that dark, evil and frozen in time place to never fully freely cross over to the other side. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a bog. Yeah, don't we all, man? Do you ever feel like you're in a bog?
Starting point is 00:17:09 There you go forever. Sometimes, and sometimes they would even remove a lot of times, actually. They would remove the person's head. And they placed the head in one part of the bog in the body and another. So they couldn't even come together. Come together.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Yeah, together as one. I was in a place of Beatles. I was in a place of Ghost, as always. and another so they couldn't even come together. Come together. Yeah, together as one. I was in a place of Beatles. I was in a place of Ghost as always. Usually. So yeah, so they would do that. So sometimes people will find these heads of bog bodies and sometimes they don't ever find the bodies.
Starting point is 00:17:38 What? It's real spooky. Okay, are you gonna tell me how like the first bog body was found like who was just like swimming in a bog one day? So these I'm gonna tell you about a few interesting bog bodies. What we can say is that every single bog body has been found by accident. I've never been. I've seen it. Yeah, nobody's ever gone in search of a bog body that I can find. There's no fish in bog. Right. I don't believe like many things can live in a bog. Okay, so I'm honestly not positive.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Okay, but either way, it's almost always when people are doing peat cutting, which is like removing layers of peat because we do use peat moths for like, you know, landscaping and shit. Like, you've heard of that. You've heard peat moths. I sure have.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, like people use it for things. So people will go and dredge it up, like these big bales of Pete essentially. And that's when they find these Pete bodies, or bog bodies, because they'll find them in between the layers of Pete. So they still use the Pete. Sometimes so-
Starting point is 00:18:40 So it happens. It happens. No. Gross. You know, that, you know? That's why I actually, this is a total sidetrack, but it's like somewhat in there. You are in a place of ash.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I am, I am. I was watching a TikTok the other night and somebody was talking about, it's the, who's the guy who does that? It was the 90s. Oh, Kevin. Kevin. He was talking about, oh, he had a bone graft in his mouth and they put a cadaver bone in there. Oh, and that Oh, Kevin. He was talking about, oh, he had a bone graft in his mouth, and they put a cadaver bone in
Starting point is 00:19:06 there. Oh, and then he was worried he wanted to know who it was from, and then he was talking about having a haunted face. Yeah. I also have a cadaver bone in my mouth. So I have a haunted face too, and I never thought about it. That's cool. So I just wanted to put that up.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I have extra bones in my mouth. There you go, but yours are just natural, not haunted. Yeah, those are mine. Yeah, they're just hers. I'm haunted, but by myself. My face is haunted, so that's fun. And what if it's like a really shit bag human? I'm grateful for their bone.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Oh, that is all I can say. But either way, this Pete Moss, your Pete Moss could be haunted. Yeah, oh, absolutely. By a bog body. I don't want any Pete Moss anymore. I want all the Pete Moss. That's such a, peat moss anymore. I want all the peat moss. That checks.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Like, that's awesome. I'm going to call my landscaper after this and be like, hi. Remove the peat moss. My fucking imaginary landscape. There you go. Hello, remove the peat moss at once. I want to call someone and say that.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Just call a landscape. Just any landscape. We don't have your phone number on our client. To be like, this man, this is a Wendy's. I don't care. Remove the peat walls. Get it out of here. Post-haste.
Starting point is 00:20:11 All right, so we're gonna talk about the Elling woman. You know, she is all of these bog bodies. None of them have names. They don't. We can't really tell who they were. So they're always named after the area in which they were found. Okay, I was gonna say that, but makes sense.
Starting point is 00:20:26 That's a weird, weird, weird shot. I was going to say that sounds pretty good. It does. The Elling Woman. She was found in Denmark in 1938. I want to go to... She is believed to be from 280 BCE during the Iron Age. Shut up, shut up. Okay, just for like my folks out there, what's the Iron Age?
Starting point is 00:20:46 The Iron Age? Yeah. Well, according to Google Self, it is a prehistoric period that followed the bronze age when weapons and tools came to be made of iron, which makes sense. Or in mythology, just for like my interested mythology folks out there, the last and worst age of the world,
Starting point is 00:21:04 a time of wickedness and oppression. Well, so like two very drastic differences there. Very much. Sometimes there was iron and sometimes there was wickedness. You know what? And there was a lot of wickedness in these bog body situations. So, we're talking about the Elling woman.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And her discovery was made in, and I'm gonna give this my best shot. But who boy some of these pronunciations? But jailed scovdol. I believe it. But jailed scovdol by a man named Yens Zacharyson who was a farmer. So he was cutting and digging Pete like everybody was like everybody's all about the Pete digging Luckily this was like kind of it was a good removal process because a lot of these bog bodies
Starting point is 00:21:53 tend to get either like kind of like cut apart by the Pete digging Accidentally or when they are removed from the Pete especially like in the 30s and the 50s when the shit was happening, they didn't know what they were doing, they didn't know what the whole thing was. So most of them thought they were recent murder victims, so they would pull them out, not knowing that these are very fragile and very old. But luckily this one had a little bit of a like ease in transfer process. So this farmer, he saw this clear body and was like, oh shit, this is a human. Lee.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And instead of fleeing, or as we're going to find out in another case, this that happens allowing villagers to take pieces of the human being with them. No. That happens in another one. No. Luckily in this time, it didn't happen. This guy, Zachariasin, he immediately called the National Museum of Denmark and they were able to remove
Starting point is 00:23:05 her properly. So good job, Yens. Now it was later determined that this girl was about 25 years old at the time of her murder. She was wearing a sheepskin cloak and a cow hide blanket wrapped around her and had more fabric made from cow hide wrapped around her lower body. A lot of these were wrapped in a lot of layers. There was also a woolen belt wrapped around her and there was a leather rope tied around her neck with a slipknot. Oh shit. Yeah. Do you think that them being like having many layers helped with
Starting point is 00:23:40 the preservation too? Honestly, maybe, but to be honest, it's kind of 50-50. A lot of them are found with a lot of layers, but a lot of them are found just naked, with nothing on them. And actually, one of the most preserved bog bodies that we're going to talk about, the taloned man, he was completely naked. Okay, so it doesn't seem to really matter.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I don't really think it matters, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt. So there was the leather rope tied around her neck with a slipknot, and her back was almost perfectly preserved. And it was immediately apparent that she had long hair that had been intricately braided before she was killed, which this would happen sometimes in ritualistic killings. They would braid the hair. Yeah. Pictures of this you can find and they're amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Disprating is perfectly preserved. It was plating back then. Exactly. I love that. And it's preserved. Like you can see every little bit of that braid. It looks like a wig. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It really does. And it's copper. Her hair is a little darker. So I believe her hair must have been darker in life. Oh, okay. But it's wild. It's very amazing. It looks like it her hair must have been darker in life. But it's wild, it's very amazing. It looks like it was done yesterday when you look at it in a goog.
Starting point is 00:24:50 But her front of her body was a little more decayed, so it was a little tougher. Now further testing done in the 1970s and the 1970s told scientists that she definitely had been hanged, and that was how she was killed. There was a deep laceration around her neck from the hanging. She's believed to have possibly been used as a sacrifice to the gods by her village. Perhaps like a fertility sacrifice could be any number of sacrificial reasons.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Okay. Honestly. I'm looking at her hair right now. Why? Amazing, right? It's insane. Yeah. Now, the next one I'm gonna talk about is the Tallend Man. and I just mentioned him. You did.
Starting point is 00:25:27 One of the most incredibly preserved of the bog bodies. He was found by two pea cutting farmers. May 11th, 1950. He was also found in Bejel's Scubdol bog in Denmark. You did it. He was found 12 years after Ellen Womming, Ellen Womming in the same bog. Oh, should that interest that is interesting. According because these bodies are in like
Starting point is 00:25:52 layers of Pete. Right. So like you can sometimes miss them or you get pieces of them. Now according to the book I already mentioned, she said, quote, as they worked, they suddenly saw in the Pete layer a face so fresh that they could only suppose they had stumbled upon a recent murder. He is over 2000 years old, which makes his preservation even more incredibly impressive. Scientists believe he was somewhere around 30 to 40 years old when he was killed, which 40 years old would have made him kind of elderly pecks on. Yeah, like to be honest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And it was likely a ritualistic sacrifice. He was found with a braided leather noose wrapped around his neck, and he looks like he is sleeping. Oh, literally in a fetal position, and has a very peaceful look on his face. Well, that's good. Where you can see every line and wrinkle like he would just start breathing in front of you.
Starting point is 00:26:49 He's naked, but he's still wearing a little pointed cap, and you can see chin hairs. What? Legitimately. They were able to determine his last meal. No. Two thousand years ago, what he ate. So, he ate porridge, a bunch of grains, and some
Starting point is 00:27:08 bony fish. And they said it was about 12 to 24 hours before he was hanged and then thrown in the bog. Bony fish. They also think someone may have positioned him. Maybe it was like a family member or something like kind of because a lot of these bodies are tossed in there. A lot of them have looks of anguish on their faces still because they were like ritualistically killed. Most of them, I haven't even gotten into yet some of the worst ones. Some of the ones that were tortured and abused before being killed, they are bad. But this guy, the tallened man, he is so peaceful looking. He is, so I'm looking at him right now. And he this guy, the tallened man, he is so peaceful looking.
Starting point is 00:27:46 He is so, I'm looking at him right now. And he was found on his side, like just sleeping. He looks like he was like literally taking a little cat nap. Yeah, it's wild. Oh, wow, I'm looking at the whole body now. Isn't it incredible? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. Now, the next one I'm gonna talk about is the, I think it's pronounced the ED girl. Okay. I looked at several pronunciations is the, I think it's pronounced the ED girl. Okay. I looked at several pronunciations for this. I believe it's ED. The girl from ED is a, is a bog body from the Netherlands. She was found May 12th, 1897 by two peak cutters who were cutting through the peat in a
Starting point is 00:28:18 bog that was just near the village of ED. When they dredged up the layers of peat, they found her just lying there between the layers. Of course, they freaked the fuck out and ran away because, honestly, a lot of people probably would. And in the 1800s, they were like, this is a daemon. The devil. And they also literally thought it was the devil because she had a big lock of fiery red hair. Yeah, I actually just saw that. So they thought it was the devil. Like they thought they had unleashed it. Like, God, they're like, he lives in the bog.
Starting point is 00:28:51 They're like, he's in the bog, guys. But they creeped back and then they just hid her under the peed again, probably because they figured if they left her there, then the demon would stay in the bog or something, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, leave the devil in the bog. But apparently she was dug up again over a week later. I think the mayor actually dug her back up. He was like, let's see this. Let's see this Damon in the bog. But she wasn't pulled out of the bog
Starting point is 00:29:14 very carefully, unfortunately. Oh no. Yes. What they could determine was that she was a 16, maybe 14 to 16 year old girl and was killed over 2,000 years before she was taken out of the bog in 1897. They used her remaining bones and also the fact that her wisdom teeth had not erupted or formed roots in her mouth to determine her approximate age. Damn, isn't it crazy that even back then people had wisdom teeth? Yeah, wisdom. Fun fact, I don't have them. But look at that evolved. They estimate she was only about four and a half feet tall. She was very tiny stature. When she was found, like I said, she had tons of fiery red hair. Again, it's important to note that the spagnum
Starting point is 00:29:55 gases turn the skin brown hair red. But they believe she might have had light, obbernate hair. Okay. So it So maybe like closer to a strawberry blonde, it was like using overtone. There you go. She had a ton of hair though. Yeah, she looks like Marita. Yeah. And honestly though, interestingly,
Starting point is 00:30:13 the right side of her very long hair had been shorn off. Oh, and they believe it was shaved off. I was like a weird punishment. Yeah, like this is a common thing in a lot of the bog bodies that the hair was shorn before their internment. Yeah, it's very weird. Now also the villagers had come to the place where she was being taken out of the bog. They took several of her teeth,
Starting point is 00:30:37 locks of her hair, and even some of her bones. Why? Yeah, they just took them with them. What? I'm like, you guys think this is a demon, and you're like, hey, let me get a piece of that. Also, I hope they all got haunted as fuck, to be honest. So weird. Like, you deserve to have an Annabelle situation, you dicks. Hey, red hair. There you go.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Annabelle. Annabelle, baby. Now, she was also wearing a heavy wool cloak, which she still had on her when they found her. I want a cloak. And also it appears that she was indeed murdered because there was still a cord made of wool that was wrapped three times around her neck.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Isn't it wild that like even BCE, we were just out here killing people. Oh so much. Like why from the dawn of time has everybody been like kill, murder, kill? Always. We've always been the worst. Like, what is up with this speech?
Starting point is 00:31:31 And this was, so it was tied in a slipknot and was likely some kind of belts that they used. She also had a stab wound to her chest. And it was near her collarbone or at the base of her throat. And the wound had been made by a knife. That's like a shitty air too. Basically going for the heart, I think.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah. Now her face was actually reconstructed in 1992. I saw that. And it was using the body. It's incredible to look at. Richard Neve, who was the artist who did it. And like, I can't believe that he was able to do that. When you look at the bog body, you're or like how the fuck did you do that?
Starting point is 00:32:07 That was my instant thought. Amazing. You can see Edie Girl and her reconstruction at the Drens Museum in Asin, Netherlands. We should go. We should go. Now the next one I'm gonna talk about is the Clooney Cave and Man and the Old Krogan Man.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Okay. So two different people. Two different men. Got it. But discovered in the same bog. Okey-doke. So in the same year too. In 2003.
Starting point is 00:32:33 What? Two bodies were discovered within a three month span of time in bogs in Cloney Cave and County Meath and Krogan Hill. They were found by peak cutters, of course. Which is, you know, starting to sound like a pretty high-risk job. If risk includes finding ritualistically murdered corpses on the regular, that's a risk in my book, Pretty Risky. The first, which again was called the Clooney Cave and Man, for obvious reasons. That's where you was found. Was actually accidentally cut in half by the machine used
Starting point is 00:33:05 to dig the peat. Oh, no. Yeah, but his upper body showed that he had been brutally murdered. His skull was literally smashed open and his nose, the bridge of his nose was like destroyed. They believed that somebody used a stone axe to hit him in the head and in the nose. That like gives me a headache. It was three blows to the head and one across the body as well with the ax.
Starting point is 00:33:28 He was also disemboweled. Bitch. And this is where it gets crazy. His nipples were noticeably cut off. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Oh, it is. He was from all the way back to between 392 and 201 BC. Yeah, we're shipped hopped off apparently. Definitely popped off with these guys. Literally. Now, when he was examined after being taken out of the bog,
Starting point is 00:33:54 Clooney Cave and Man's hair would actually look like it was styled. Is that the one that I saw? Um, I know. That was a different one. Oh, okay. This one is actually styled using plant oil they found. So it was intentionally styled.
Starting point is 00:34:09 That's what they used, like, literally, like, gel. How cool is that? Isn't that crazy? Yeah, and... And the cool that, like, the bog didn't mess that up. It didn't mess it up, and it was in what looked like a mohawk, almost. Oh, shit! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:22 He was fucking cool. He was, and. He was. And the makeshift gel was important, had to have been imported from either France or Spain because that's where that specific plant grows. Yo. Isn't that wild? That is really fucking cool. So cool.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I was like, this is really cool. I didn't really into this. This is a, this is, I don't even know. It's a weird thing. Yeah. So the National Museum of Ireland actually used samples of Clooney Cave in's hair to determine that he ate a lot of... They were able to use hair to determine that he ate a lot of fresh vegetables.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Good for him. And because they were recently ingested by him, they were able to say he was murdered in the late summer or early fall because that's when they would have been fresh. Which like, whoa, summer squash. That's just so wild. They used his crazy hair to say what he ate. And they were able to determine when he died because it had to have been fresh and in season.
Starting point is 00:35:18 That's why pros ask you what you eat. There you go. What are your eating habits are like. Look at that, always able to take it back. Hey, oh. Now, that was the cloney cave in the man. In the Krogan Hill area, they discovered another body. This was the old Krogan man in the in a bog. He was also brutally butchered and dumped there. He had defensive wounds on his upper arms where he had apparently tried to stop whatever was stabbing him, but he was stabbed in the arms instead.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And apparently part of his torture was that he had hazel branches literally threaded through holes that had been cut out of his arms. Girl. Like, whoa. Are those like spiky? I don't know what these are like.
Starting point is 00:36:03 They're just like branches. Like bendable branches. So they had cut holes in his arms. Oh my God. And then threaded branches through them while he was alive. That is so fucked up. And they did this.
Starting point is 00:36:15 They put like threaded these branches through him to hold him down in the bog while he was being stabbed in the chest and neck. Then, then, his head had been completely cut off his body while he was being stabbed in the chest and neck. Oh. Then, then, his head had been completely cut off his body and he had been bisected. Chopped in half. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:35 His nipples were also cut off. Stop. And he was from somewhere between 362 and 175 BC. Are we gonna get any explanation about the nip nips? We are. But also they found a braided, I think he was actually naked, like completely, except for a braided arm band
Starting point is 00:36:53 around his bicep. And it was made of leather and had a bronze amulet in it, which is interesting. He was somewhere between six foot six. Holy, he was a tall drink of water. Oh honey. We love a tall drink.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Calm down over there. And he was well nourished, apparently. And taking samples from his hair actually proved that he was wealthy enough to eat meat as part of his regular diet, which was rare. Yeah. And then he must have been in the upper echelon. Out there eating those turkey legs. So they agree, scientists agree that both of these men were been in the upper echelon. Out there eating those turkey legs. So they agree, scientists agree that both of these men were clearly of the upper echelon of social class.
Starting point is 00:37:31 They were in their 20s, they were not laborers, they were well-nourished and showed that they'd eaten well in their lives. They also had well-manacured nails, which could be noticed immediately. And this meant that they definitely hadn't worked for a living. They weren't doing manual labor. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:48 This could also mean, apparently, I found somewhere else that they could determine that maybe these people were thieves and that they didn't work for their living. They stole for their living. And that's why their hands were well manicured. Okay. But they don't believe that with these two because they eat so long with how they ate in their hair and they were able to use styling gel essentially from fricking frigs.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Exactly. If these were clearly not just like thieves, these were upper social class. When it be so cool, if like eventually we got, I mean, I don't want to get like too many of these bodies, of course, but we have so many of them. If we got like so many in the same place where we could kind of like trace lineage, you know, I think, you know, like that'd be so cool. I feel like it could actually happen. Like we have so much that we're getting from these.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And it's like year by year as technology and science, like, right, goes forward and just like gets better and better. They're getting more and more from these bodies, because some of the things that when they would first get them, either in the 80s or the 50s, and even the 90s, they would think one thing, but then we get into the 2000s and everything progressed. And then all of a sudden they go, oh, wait a second, that wasn't the case.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Because now we know. Right. Like some of them, there was a couple that they were like, we don't know if this cracked skull is from the layers of peat moss, crushing peat moss, crushing their skull, or if it was a perimortum injury. Right. And sometimes they would say they think it's from the peat moss, and then later they would discover, no, that was actually done perimortum because we can see evidence of swelling
Starting point is 00:39:24 around the wounds. That's crazy. Which shows that there was bruising, which shows that there was blood flow while it was happening. That is just like wild. Which is just, whoa! Wow! Wow! Whoa! Now the nipple thing.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Please. So, please no, but also please yes. Please no, please yes. It was important because apparently this led a lot of researchers to believe that these men could have actually been failed kings, or people in line of succession who failed to become kings. So if you fail to become a king, they... Oh, I'm gonna explain. They rip your nips. So are you ready to hear something a little shocking?
Starting point is 00:40:17 I mean, I'm gonna say... Usually from you, yeah. I'm gonna say a sentence. Oh, God. That I didn't know I would ever say. She's looking nervous apparently in Ireland back in the day our family our family sucking on a king's nipples was once suggested as a form of submission
Starting point is 00:40:38 we want a fun like like to submit to a king, that is what you did. That's hot. I read something, I read something that said, isn't it easier just to kneel and kiss a ring? Like, isn't that just like, like kiss the ring? Right. Kind of like, isn't that easier? Like, you gotta get undressed.
Starting point is 00:40:58 That's the thing I'm like, I'm like, pose your bosom. So, like, so, like, so, Kings are just horny. What's happening? These are a wily, wily coyote.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Very wily. Wily niply coyote. So, with that in mind, which I'm sorry you have that in mind now, I apologize, but now we're all here together. That's just funny. If you sliced off a king's nipple, then you have officially deemed him
Starting point is 00:41:22 ineligible for kingship. So cutting them off this way, maybe was a way to remove Then you have officially deemed him ineligible for kingship. So cutting them off this way maybe was a way to remove or even signify the failed kingship. Kings or those in line would be ritualistically sacrificed at times, at times like way back in ancient times, because if crops failed or cattle got sick or something happened in the village,
Starting point is 00:41:44 it was the kings responsibility to sacrifice himself through a ritual to bring back the prosperity to his village. Did he have to cut off his own nebbles? He didn't have to cut him off himself, but he had to have him cut off. Oh. It's like a lot. Gosh, I gotta look. Yeah, I gotta go.
Starting point is 00:42:01 According to the Irish examiner, Ned Kelly, who is the keeper of antiquities at the National Museum of Ireland, says, quote, cutting them would have made him incapable of kingship in this world and the next. Well, shit, that doesn't seem fair. Yes, so you cut it all from here to the nether worlds. They're like, you won't even have nipples
Starting point is 00:42:21 when you're a ghost mother from sand. But he said there is also the possibility that the nipple cutting was just a degradation thing or a humiliation thing associated with torture and murder. I could see both. Either way, really bad. And they do believe that with these two, because of everything else, that these definitely could have been nobles and in line of succession or failed kings. Yeah. Now let's talk about a bog body mixup that ultimately led to a very,
Starting point is 00:42:54 or more very, when in relative to these ones, recent murder conviction. What? Yes. So, this is a bog body mixup not to be confused with old Greg's downstairs mixup. May 13, 1983. Steven Dooly and Andy Mould were doing the old Pete Moss cut dig thing. Everybody out here Pete Moss. Just all the time. And they were in Cheshire County, England in the London Moss Bogg. They ended up finding during this process a big ball of peat that was like stuck together and they initially joked that it looked like a dinosaur egg or they were like oh it's like a burst football or something spoiler alert it wasn't it was not but then they cleaned it off it was actually a human skull that was later determined to be a female
Starting point is 00:43:43 who was between the ages of 30 and 50 years old. It was so well preserved that everyone was like, holy shit, this is a recent murder victim. Like, this is not a bog body from like ancient times. Of course, authorities started looking into recent missing women in the area. This is the 80s, remember? And one in particular started to look like
Starting point is 00:44:03 it could potentially fit this skull. A woman named Malika Maria de Fernandez, who had gone missing in the 60s. And her case had gone cold, she had never been found. When she had originally turned up missing back in the 60s, her husband, Peter Reinbart, was interviewed, and due to knowledge of their sour marriage, and the fact that he lived feet away from this bog. Authorities honestly thought he was possibly the one who caused her disappearance, but they
Starting point is 00:44:32 just couldn't gather enough evidence to prove it or really to bring him in for months and keep him. Now, they had done a full-scale investigation and learned that Fernandez was gone traveling. The person who's missing had gone traveling a lot. Like they didn't really have a close marriage. Like things were going wrong. And during the time she went missing, she had threatened to tell British authorities that her husband was gay. Now in the 60s, that was considered a criminal offense in the UK. Fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:45:05 So he would have been arrested. She had gone missing after this particular fight. Whether he was gay or not is not what's at stake here. Yeah. That is nobody really knows. It was just the fact that it was also the fact that she was going to go to the authorities even whether he was or wasn't and say he was. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:24 So it had been decades and no one had found a trace of Fernandez, but Reynne Barck had been arrested in the interim, and he had been a released. He wasn't arrested for that. He was arrested on sexual abuse against several children. Oh, fuck this guy. He's an actual piece of shit. Yeah, just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 00:45:41 For a second, I was like, oh, I feel kind of bad for him. Yeah, I was like, wow, bye. That's why I was like, we don I feel kind of bad for him. I was like, wow, bye. That's why I was like, we don't know anything about this guy except that he's a piece of shit. Correct. And his cellmates had actually come forward and said that he bragged about killing his wife, shopping her up to pieces and burying her all over his yard.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Now, they dug up parts of his garden and yard and they found nothing of real importance. So they bring him in for questioning once they found this skull because it's in the bog next to his house, it's a woman and it's in the right age range. As soon as they begin to explain what they have found to him, he confessed everything. He completely admitted to murdering his wife. Twenty, something years prior. Yep.
Starting point is 00:46:23 He told authorities that he had gone into a rage when she threatened to go to the authorities and he had grabbed her. And what he said he did was he had shaken her until she died. Doubt it. Like, okay. Like, she's not a baby, sir. He said he had immediately gone into problem solving mode and he decided he just said to dismember her entire body with an axe, including
Starting point is 00:46:45 decapitating her, and he tried to burn parts of her, but it wasn't working so he threw them in the bog. Oh. That's why they only found her head so far. He just figured it was a matter of time before they found the rest of her body parts and that's why he admitted it. Either way, he confessed and they'd found her skull. It was a solid case of murder.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Wow. Where's the mix up? So off they went to searching gather the rest of Fernandez's remains. That was supposed to be in this book. But searching for hours and days, they turned up nothing. Now one other body part was found. So authorities were like, shit, we really have to sure up this head. We have to make sure, you know, we really have to like confirm this is her because if we can't get the rest of her body parts, we got to have this for our slam dunk. So detective inspector George Abbott had the head sent to Oxford University Research Laboratory for archaeology and the history of art to be thoroughly examined, thoroughly dated, thoroughly id. When they returned their findings, they said, examined, thoroughly dated, thoroughly id.
Starting point is 00:47:45 When they returned their findings, they said, yes, this is a woman between the ages of 30 and 50 years old, but it is also a woman who died about 1,700 years ago. Dude. Whoops. Oh, cool. Whoops. So when Rain Bart was informed of this, he of course was like, oh my god, yes, I didn't kill her just kidding. Few, Glad we cleared that up. Bring out Ashton Kutcher because I just punked you.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Whoa, I was totally kidding. I was playing the long game. But they were like, no, you definitely did it, you piece of shit. And you can, you can admit it to piece of shit and you can you can admitted to it Fuck off. Yeah, bye and his murder charge stood and he was sentenced to life in prison Good they were never able to find for nandas this real body Oh, I hope they do but he did go to prison for life
Starting point is 00:48:37 He definitely did it. He admitted it to several people including the authorities and he was He admitted it based on a 1,700 year old head that he thought was his wife's. That, that's some witch shit. That is some bog body justice right there. That's exactly what that is. That is some good vibes coming out and being like, we're gonna get some justice
Starting point is 00:49:00 for this missing woman. I like that. While also finding a bog body. I'm obsessed. I thought that like Blue my mom in that case. I mean when I came across that I was like, well shit Do you think that he really buried her where like nobody would find her? Or do you really think you put her in the bog?
Starting point is 00:49:14 I think he might have put her in the bog, but it's so big and it's like well layers and layers of peat Mom, so she might be found someday. Who is where she he put her? Who knows if he put all of the pieces in the bog and some of them are buried? No, there are places like who really knows? He said he tried to burn some. He also sounds like a liar too, though, because they said that. I think he killed her obviously,
Starting point is 00:49:35 but he said he put her in the garden and they didn't find any. Yeah, I think he's a lying sack. Yeah, he's a bullshitter. Either way, he's in prison for life. Good bye. Good bye, guy. Let's get onto more bog bodies. So let's talk about the Lindow Moss bog bodies. So in the same bog that they found
Starting point is 00:49:53 this body in, they found the remains of a very well preserved 20 year old man who later, in 1984, the press apparently named Pete Marsh. Now where did they get the Pete thing? Okay, press. Yeah. I don't think this is an actual person. Like, maybe don't. Okay, press.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Let's just keep the naming convention with where they are found. So we don't need to add some silly little, like, Pete Marsh. Like, no. Okay. Now, this body was another one with manicured nails and a neatly done beard and a neatly done hairstyle.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Neatly or no, no, no, peace. I'm honestly this one, I don't know if you, I think you did have nipples actually. But he was well nourished and he was obviously of a higher class. He had been placed into the bog naked with only a leather armlet around his left bicep.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Hmm. Amulet? I didn't see an amulet, but there was definitely a braided leather, like something around interesting. I wonder if that was like a symbol of something back then. Yeah. I don't know. This is what we get to find out.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Right. This is what's so cool about these things is we're seeing all these patterns and different things that are connecting people into like, well, this must be ritualistic because of this. So, right. This is what they did back then. It's just so cool. But according to BBC, he was killed with repeated blows to his head.
Starting point is 00:51:14 He was then grotted. He had his throat sliced open and he was forced to swallow mistletoe. Shit. Then still alive, he was pushed with a very severely violent knee to the back while he was kneeling, and he fell into the bog and drowned in the bog water. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah. So the blows showed signs of swelling around two of them, which means he was very much alive when they were inflicted. The last blow was to the top of his head and it forced skull matter into his brain. They believe, too, this is wild. They believe that the noose was tightened as they cut his throat so that it would force the blood out quicker and create more of a show, almost spraying it, like basically spraying it out so brutally that they would bathe everyone around him and him
Starting point is 00:52:09 in his blood. Hygienic. And what's wild is in the book that I was telling you guys about that I'll definitely tag in the show notes. She talks about how this also is really scary and like very interesting because it shows that they had a very good grasp on anatomy. Yeah. And how the body worked. And they were able to like bring these people
Starting point is 00:52:32 to the brink of death and then pull them back and then bring them again and pull them back. Like it was a very brutal, scary, very thought out, very intricate torture. And to be able to know that if you squeeze on that certain vessel as you cut, that it's going to create that wild spray of blood and make it like a show, like theatrical, that's so wild that they were able to think like that back then. It's insane. And have that weird control over a human body. It's just like really creepy. And I hadn't thought of it until Miranda, the author of that book, like brought it up in one of the chapters and
Starting point is 00:53:10 I was like, Oh, you're right. Right. There was also evidence that he had inhaled sphagnum. So he was very much alive when he was pushed into the bog. He inhaled the bog water. A lot of overkill with this one. Definitely. So after that one, we're going to talk about the Grau-Bale man. I believe that's how you say it. This is a wild injury preserved in time forever. April 26, 1952, Pete Cutters, shocking. We're doing their thing in a bog near Nebelgarde Furn in the village of Grau-Bale, Denmark, when they discovered what appeared to be a very recent Guard Furn in the village of Graalbeil, Denmark, when they discovered what appeared to be a very recent corpse entangled in the bog. It was not very recent.
Starting point is 00:53:51 They actually thought that this was like within the last like ten years, they were like, this is a very recent body. And they informed the village doctor and Ulrich Balsov, an archaeologist of this discovery. When they came to see it, they were like, well, this is wild. And they in turn turned this over to the researchers at the Orhus Museum of prehistory. This man was over 2,300 years old. Oh my God. And he was probably about 30 years old when he was brutally murdered. He was naked. He had a ton of hair that looks very fiery, Auburn. This is the guy that you saw that you thought had a wig on. Okay. He was naked. He had a ton of hair that looks very fiery Auburn. This is the guy that
Starting point is 00:54:25 you saw that you thought had a wig on. Okay. He reminded me of the professor from Harry Potter. Yes. Right. What car? You're thinking of Lockhart, right? Yes. Yep. Yeah. Lockhart's like crazy hair. You're right. It's very much like that actually. Wow. That's wild. And obviously we've learned that this probably wasn't his natural hair color. Maybe he had lock hearts hair color actually perhaps. You know, bog gases and shit. He had well manicured nails and his face had preserved. And this is the craziest part of him. His face was preserved in a horrifically-pained expression. I bet. He looks like he was grimacing and his mouth is wide open. Yeah, because what were they doing to him before?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Let's go. Yeah. So what's most upsetting is the gaping wound in his throat. It's brutal. This wound. It's not a slice. It's a gaping wound. What?
Starting point is 00:55:18 Someone did it with such force and savagery that they almost cut the head off completely. It was literally hanging on by skin. What did they do, you think? Well, according to Bog Body's Uncovered, that book, there was a huge, very intense slice across the throat and then, quote, some small, other cuts with a smooth, sharp, bladed instrument that struck the cervical vertebrae, severed the farings and made a large hole in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:55:44 That's how deep it was. Mile my. It stretched virtually from ear to ear, both carotid arteries and the jugular vein were severed. He was also stabbed from behind and they believed that a sword or some kind of very big blade, like a machete type of thing was used. They also found an open wound and a break of his left tibia. They were sure this one occurred while he was being tortured and was caused by some blunt instrument being slammed into his tibia repeatedly until not only did it break the bone but it opened the skin on top of it. Oh, mama's
Starting point is 00:56:19 getting nauseous over here. Mama's literally getting nauseous. They were also able to find that in his stomach, he had last ate porridge with lots of herbs in it, and there were signs of him having it ingested urgot, which we talked about urgot in the Salem Witch Trials episode. It is a poisonous fungi often found in grains. It can cause like hallucinogenic, like hysteria, essentially.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Damn. And sometimes they think they might have used that in ritualistic sacrifices, they would give this person this like hallucinogenic shit as part of the ritual. Oh, I'm sorry. My tibia still hurts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:58 You know, when you get that like, if you hear like, oh, it hurts. I know it hurts, you're like, wanna rub your leg. I'm too much of an empath. So let's talk about the last bog body we're gonna talk about in this one. Is this like a crescendo type of deal?
Starting point is 00:57:10 Not real, I mean, it's bad. It's definitely bad, but it's like, they're all pretty bad. I mean, yeah. So we're talking about the Holder Mose woman. She was discovered in 1879 near Holder Mose, Denmark, I hope I'm saying that correctly. She was found by Neel's Hanson, who was a teacher and he was digging Pete when he saw her.
Starting point is 00:57:28 She was thought to have died when she was around 40 years old, which again would make her pretty elderly. And she looks elderly, like she looks like an older woman. It was killed around 160 BC. She was wearing two, what they called skin cloaks, but they were like animal skin and a woolen cloak. And her hair was chopped off almost to the scalp. Oh, her right arm had been viciously hacked off
Starting point is 00:57:53 and was found lying next to her. What are you doing? She also had a long leather type strap that was wrapped around her hair and then twice around her neck. Oh wow. Her left arm had been bound to her body with another strap and her left leg
Starting point is 00:58:08 had been hacked at as well. And it's believed that she was drowned after being abused and mutilated. My God. Now that is the holder most woman. Bog bodies are insanely fascinating. The fact that we can tell what they ate and how they lived thousands of years later
Starting point is 00:58:26 is insane. Wild. Like my brain, my brain will not wrap around it properly. When you look at them, I'm going to cover more of these in another episode just because I can't not revisit this. This is like very interesting. When you look at them, you just can't come to terms with the fact that that is a 2000 plus year old human being. Not at all. You can't do it. Not at all. Because they're not like mummified in the classic sense
Starting point is 00:58:56 of mummification. We've heard about, under ice, some people are preserved for thousands of years, which is also wild. Yeah. And like, mummies are very well preserved, but like, this is just, and this is water. Well, and this is like natural. This is just wind water.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. Like, it's so crazy. And just like the weird like chemicals and like, and just the violence associated with the bog bodies. This is a very interesting thing. My favorite part of the whole entire thing was learning that even back then, people were using hair gel. Yeah. Obviously, you know that, because as early as the beginning of time,
Starting point is 00:59:31 people use a very reasoned shit for makeup. You don't think about it. But especially hair gel. Like I would never think about that. To style into a foe hawk kind of thing. It was so cool. Wild. So that is the beginning, at least, of bog bodies.
Starting point is 00:59:44 That was really cool. I've literally never heard of those before. Very interesting subject. So I hope that you guys enjoyed it too. Yeah, I hope you did. And we also hope that you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird. But not so weird that you make somebody suck your nipples To make you feel noble Bye Hey, Prime Members! You can listen to Morvid, Early, and Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondery.com slash survey.

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