Morbid - Episode 624: The Murder of Cheryl Perveler
Episode Date: December 5, 2024When police were called to the scene of shooting at the Castillion Apartments in Los Angeles on April 20, 1968, they assumed the victim, twenty-two-year-old Cheryl Perveler, had been shot in ...a robbery gone wrong. However, when they began looking into her personal life, they soon realized Cheryl’s killer could have been much closer to home.In most cases of individual murders, detectives always look at the spouse first, and in this case, there was a lot to look at. Cheryl had recently married Paul Perveler, a former Los Angeles Police officer with a checkered past and an obvious obsession with wealth and power. Yet the more they investigated Paul Perveler, the more detectives began to suspect they didn’t have just one murder on their hands, and it was starting to look like Cheryl’s death was the culmination of a larger and far more shocking conspiracy than anyone had expected. Thank you to the Incredible Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for research and Writing support!ReferencesBraxton, Greg. 1982. "Woman asks public to keep killer ex-husband jailed." Los Angeles Times, September 19: 529.Bugliosi, Vincent, and Ken Hurwitz. 2004. Till Death Do Us Part: A True Murder Mystery. New York, NY: W.W. Norton and Company.2017. A Crime to Remember. Performed by Christine Connor and Elise Graves.Eintoss, Ron. 1969. "Death penalty asked in insurance murders." Los Angeles Times, February 25: 26.—. 1969. "Jury asks death for Perveler, life in prison for girlfriend." Los Angeles Times, February 26: 29.El Sereno Star. 1966. "Gun victim found in house fire." El Sereno Star, December 15: 1.Farr, Bill. 1986. "Ex-officer in prison for killing fails in parole bid." Los Angeles Times, August 30: 2.Haynes, Roy, and Dial Torgerson. 1968. "Murder charges filed against pair in double indemnity case." Los Angeles Times, May 3: 3.Los Angeles Times. 1968. "Ex-officer, woman ask seperate trials." Los Angeles Times, November 15: 41.Newton, Tom, and Dial Torgerson. 1968. "Ex-policeman, woman accused of killing mates for insuarance." Los Angeles Times, May 2: 1.The Register. 1969. "First degree murder asked in mates case." The Register (Santa Ana, CA), February 5: 15.United Press International. 1969. "Dual murder case goes to jury soon." Stockton Evening and Sunday Record, February 12: 11.Valley Times. 1968. "Transcript says alleged killer told of slaying." Valley Times, May 21:See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Jon and I watched Trap the other night for fun.
And how was that?
Guys watched Trap just for the fun.
And how was that?
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I've heard some interesting reviews.
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We've got a story to talk about today.
I found this case really interesting.
And I think you will too.
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This is unfortunately a murder.
It is the murder of Cheryl Purveiller.
But lots of moving pieces on this case.
And it starts a little before midnight on April 20th, 1968. of Cheryl Preveiler, but lots of moving pieces in this case.
And it starts a little before midnight on April 20th, 1968.
A man named John Miller and his wife got home to the Castilian apartments in Burbank, California,
parked their car, they were just going to walk, you know, from the car inside, finish
their night.
But as they were walking to their apartment, they noticed their neighbor, 22-year-old Cheryl
Preveiler, sitting in her car with the engine running and the headlights still on.
So they were like, what's going on with her over there?
So they approached the car to go check on Cheryl, who they found sitting in the front
seat, barely conscious, eyes closed, gasping for air and bleeding heavily from her head
and chest.
Oh, geez.
So the Millers ran inside to call the police,
who arrived a short time later.
And as they waited for the paramedics,
Mr. Miller looked at his watch and it was exactly 1130 PM.
It turned out that Cheryl had been shot twice in the head,
just above her left ear.
And she also had one large wound across her chest,
which the coroner would later suspect happened
when she actually tried to push the barrel of the gun away as it was fired. There were also seven half-inch gashes
on her forehead and on the top of her head that were made by a blunt object, possibly like the
butt of a pistol. So somebody was like beating her and had shot her multiple times. Her face and her
head were absolutely covered with
blood, which had also pooled in the driver's seat and on the floor of the car. So paramedics arrived
to the scene, they rushed Cheryl to the Burbank Hospital, but the attention that she needed went
way beyond the capabilities of Burbank Hospital. So they ended up having to transfer her to the
Los Angeles County Hospital, but she unfortunately died as she was being prepped for surgery.
She almost lived.
Holy shit.
Which I wish she had anyways, but I so wish that she had because there is some unanswered
questions when it comes to this case.
Interesting.
But by the time Detective Lieutenant Dave McIntyre arrived to the Castilian apartments,
the other residents of the building had all assembled into the parking lot to see what
the fuck was going on, to see what was happening.
Upon his first surveying of the scene, he noticed a.32 caliber automatic pistol lying
on the passenger seat that didn't appear to have been fired.
And inscribed on one side of the barrel was the word love and the other Paul, so love
Paul, which was a reference to Cheryl's husband
of only seven weeks, Paul Purveiller. The gun was loaded with five rounds. Also on the front seat
was Cheryl's purse, which had $35 in it, which today would be a little more than $300, which is
fucking insane. Yeah. To think that $35 back then is worth $300 today. That's nuts. But on the floor of the driver's seat, investigators also discovered two 25 caliber shells,
and outside the car toward the rear right tire, they found two unfired 25 caliber rounds as well.
Now this struck them as particularly strange because Cheryl had been shot from the left side
of the vehicle, meaning that at some point her killer had stood by the other side of the car,
probably reloading or loading the gun.
Which is just kind of strange.
As far as McIntyre could tell, if this had been a robbery
or even attempted carjacking, it had obviously gone terribly wrong.
The shooter had not only left a ton of money in the car,
but had also left the car itself,
which was a really nice car.
It was a 1968, so new, yellow Jaguar, worth obviously a lot of money.
And the other thing was, the attack would have been really violent for an attempted
robbery.
Like, if the killer was only trying to get away, any one of Cheryl's wounds that she
sustained would have given them a sufficient opportunity to dip and like run out of the scene.
So, McIntyre and several other investigators fanned out across the lot to interview neighbors, and they started with John Miller.
And John Miller was a part of the couple who had first found her.
He explained that he and his wife had just got home, you know, walking to their apartment,
and they saw Cheryl's car with the engine running, the radio playing, and the on. And actually at first they didn't think anybody was even in the car.
I think they just heard the music and saw that the car was on. And the closer they got,
he realized that Cheryl was in the front seat and he was like, she was sitting in a really
strange position. And then he said he could hear a quote, terrible sound, a low guttural
moan. Oh, because she's like, I'm pretty sure, like choking on her own blood.
Oh, that's awful.
So after calling for help, he ran to another neighbor, Larry, I think it's a bureaucrat,
his apartment and said, come and help.
The girl in 17 has been beaten up real bad.
And to his surprise, that neighbor responded by saying, you mean she's been shot.
Which is like, I'm sorry, what?
Why would you assume that?
Well, when they questioned the other neighbors, investigators were quite surprised to learn
that multiple neighbors heard gunshots,
but not one of them called the police.
What the fuck?
Not one of them.
We see this so often though.
It's crazy.
Larry Beauregard explained that he'd been in his home,
in his living room a little after 11 p.m.
when he heard what he thought was a gunshot.
And then a few moments passed and he heard two more.
Because remember, she was shot three times.
You hear three gunshots.
Detectives presumed that the first shot
caused the wound to Cheryl's chest
and the other two gunshots were to her head.
One of the neighbors looked out his window
after hearing the shots as well.
And he said what he described as a man of average height
and weight wearing a white hooded sweatshirt, but he never got he described as a man of average height and weight, wearing a white hooded
sweatshirt, but he never got a look at the person's face. Otherwise, no one had seen anything, and the
crime scene was not really offering much up for clues. So they were like, what, where do we start
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So while officers continued to speak with the residents of the Castilian apartments, which I guess you would never want to live amongst any of them,
could you imagine?
Yeah, all of your neighbors are just like, eh?
Well, I guess that was gone, Charles.
Right?
So while they did that, Lieutenants Ernest,grift and Warren King went to the Prevailers
apartment where they found Cheryl's husband Paul, who would come home after getting a
message from Mrs. Miller. The investigators found him to be in a state of shock or at
least stunned silence as you would kind of expect in that situation. Paul said he actually
gave his wife $50 that morning to go grocery shopping and then he left for work. And he
said later that night, about an hour before she was killed, Sheryl actually stopped into his bar in Sunderland,
where he was working, and they had a drink together. They finished their drink. He said he
walked her out to the car, and then he went back inside, and that was the last time he had seen her
alive. Now, these facts were confirmed with the other staff at the bar that evening.
And when they asked whether there was anybody who might want his wife dead,
Paul said, yes, that German fellow.
Referring to a man that Cheryl had dated before she and Paul got married.
But he said other than that, he couldn't think of anybody else.
Just one ex-boyfriend.
So a quick background check on Cheryl revealed really nothing indicating
that her life would be cut so tragically short.
She was born in Brooklyn, New York in 1945,
and she'd always been a strong-willed and determined girl.
By all accounts, everybody loved Cheryl.
Like, she didn't have an enemy on the surf.
She was always a physically active child.
She had a really strong interest in sports from an early age,
and she actually carried that into adulthood.
And when she graduated from high school,
she wanted to move out to Los Angeles, hoping to break into the film industry. So at first, when she moved out
there, she tried her hand on an office job, but it just didn't hold her interest for long.
And so she moved on and she answered an ad for a job as an aerobics instructor at the
aristocratic spa.
Damn, what a name.
I know. I was like, the aristocratic spa.
We're all aristocratic up in here.
So she loved her job at the spa.
She was also really, really good at it.
She quickly got promoted first to assistant manager
and then manager of another location.
And a short time after moving to LA,
she ended up meeting Paul, who, like I said,
owned two bars in the city.
He was charming, he was attentive,
and it wasn't long before they fell in love and they actually got married pretty quickly. And then just seven months
later, Cheryl was dead. Damn. So given that nothing appeared to be missing from the car
and Cheryl was still wearing all her expensive jewelry, investigators ruled out robbery pretty
much immediately. Yeah. But if it wasn't robbery, then that meant somebody had literally gone to the
apartments that night just to kill Cheryl. And like she doesn't have any enemies. So what the
fuck? Who would that be? And by the look of things, her killer was not a professional.
The brutality and the attack implied something personal, and the killer didn't stop until he was
pretty certain that she wouldn't live. So as a matter of practice, investigators also ran a simple background check on Paul. And what came back was pretty fucking surprising. Paul had only
purchased his two bars within the last two years. And before that, he had worked for
a short time at an insurance industry, selling life insurance, which is interesting. And
before that, he actually spent a number of years as an officer with the LAPD.
So he was previously one of them.
Oh, yeah.
It turned out that just a few years into his tenure with LAPD, Paul was discharged from
his position after he helped a friend's roommate obtain an abortion, which was illegal at the
time.
Wow.
Yeah.
So although he wasn't disciplined for the illegal activity, he was let go from
the position because they didn't want any kind of scandal or bad press. So his work
history was pretty surprising to detectives, but even more surprising was his involvement
in other crimes, serious crimes, including murder.
Oh.
Yeah.
That's a serious crime.
One of the most serious, I would say. On December 11th, 1966, the Los Angeles Fire Department
responded to a call about a house fire
in the neighborhood of El Sereno.
And when firefighters arrived, the back of the house
was completely engulfed in flames.
So they immediately began searching the house
for survivors and found in the front room
the body of 27-year-old Marlon Cromwell, the owner of the house.
Now, initially, firefighters assumed that he had either passed out
or died from smoke inhalation,
but when they got closer to his body,
they discovered that he had actually been shot three times in the head
and two times in the chest.
So, shot five times, and then his house was on fire.
Besides the body...
Seems suspicious.
Seems pretty fucking suspicious. Besides the body, they also discovered a towel with a ring house was on fire. Besides the body... It seems suspicious. It seems pretty fucking suspicious.
Beside the body, they also discovered a towel with a ring of blood on it, which investigators
would later theorize had been used kind of as like an informal silencer for the gun.
Holy shit.
Now, according to fire officials, there was no reason to believe that his death was a
suicide because you're not going to shoot your own self five times.
No. And the case was being invested as a homicide,
but there was very little evidence at the scene
to develop any leads from.
So investigators theorized that the killer obviously
set the fire to destroy any evidence of murder,
but they had set the fire in the back room,
which gave firefighters enough time to reach Cromwell's body
before it was affected by the flames. An autopsy showed that he'd been shot three times in the head at close
range killing him. And then it seemed as though the killer must have stood several feet away
and fired two more rounds into his chest to make sure he was completely expired.
This is so chaotic.
It is immediately.
Like this. I just realized how many times I've been like, damn.
And I'm like, it's just like shocking.
But rightfully so.
The dams are apropos.
The dams just keep on coming.
But I'm like, wow, it's the only thing I'm like, this is so camp.
You know what?
They're not going to stop coming.
Holy shit.
So just live in a place of damn.
You're a beaver now.
Yeah.
You be beaver.
You are beaver.
So like Cheryl, everybody who knew Marlon Cromwell insisted he didn't have any enemies
in life.
Everybody loved him.
What the fuck is going on?
He was just a pretty regular dude.
He worked as a stock clerk at a local grocery store, which he'd done since graduating high
school.
And otherwise, he was a really shy, quiet guy.
That's sad.
Yeah.
At the time of his death, he was married to Christina Cromwell, and they had one child
together.
But on the day of the fire, Christina and their son were visiting Christina's mother
like 150 miles away, luckily.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I'm glad they weren't there.
Me too.
Obviously.
So she seemed like an unlikely suspect, you know, but they weren't willing to rule her
out entirely because they said, huh, that's crazy. They said interesting. Now there were things about Marlin and Christina's
relationship that also struck investigators as particularly odd. For one thing, they had been
married for a number of years, but they got divorced and then remarried just a few months
before the fire. Oh, yeah. And just as interesting, two months before Marlon was killed, Christina had taken out
a life insurance policy in his name in the amount of $75,000.
You know, damn.
Damn.
Damn.
I don't know, like, wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, just damn.
Just damn.
Wow.
Okay.
So a quick check of Christina's background revealed that she and Paul Purveiller just
so happened to have been working together at the same insurance company at the time.
Oh no. I see where this is going.
Yeah. Paul and Christina's workplace behavior led many of their coworkers to assume that
they were carrying on a spicy affair.
Oh no. Then go the fuck away.
Yeah, just leave.
Just leave.
Go away.
Run away together. It's shitty, but it's much less shitty than killing people.
Because everyone will be fine without you, but just move on.
Well, while interviewing those co-workers,
detectives learned that not too long ago,
Christina had undergone a pretty serious makeover,
during which she lost 75 pounds, died her hair blonde, got contact lenses, and capped her teeth.
So she like…
What the fuck?
She went for it.
Yeah.
It was like a makeover scene in Clueless.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
The remarkable transformation, they insisted, had been quote unquote, coached by Paul, who
seemed to have quite a lot of control over Christina.
Ew.
Yeah. Paul's an asshole.
Ew.
Detectives interviewed asshole Paul, who admitted that he had gone on a few dates with Christina,
but he claimed there was really nothing more to their relationship than that.
Never really serious.
But she capped her teeth for you.
And also like you guys are married.
Yeah.
Like he's just sitting there being like, yeah, we went on a few dates.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, no, no, no, they're not married. I thought they were
married. Christina and Paul, no. No, I mean, married to other people. Yeah. Oh, they're
married to other people. That's what I mean. Like she's sitting there. I'm like, why is
this not hitting you the way it's hitting me? I was like, wait, no, they're not married.
I thought you thought they were married to each other. Like they are married to other
people and he is being like, we went on on a few dates Like that's something you do when you're married to other people and it's like no, no, babe. Yeah, there's spouses
Hello, this is your you can't you can't just go on a date. Like he's like it's very much against the rules and be a spouse
Blowing past the whole like just yeah, we went on a few dates, but I can't wasn't serious
I'm not even worried about if it's serious or not.
You went on a date.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Everyone's so fucking...
Everyone's so cavalier.
They really are.
Well, and also...
Damn.
I told you, you are a beaver.
So detectives couldn't help feeling that Paul was not telling the entire truth.
They were like...
Me too.
Interesting.
They were like, damn. They were like, damn. I said, damn,
Paul. So they actually assigned an officer to track Paul and Christina's movements.
And two days later, when Christina got the first payout from Arlen's insurance,
the detail followed them to Las Vegas, where they checked into an expensive hotel together,
racked up a very large bill. And in the six weeks that followed, Christina received $25,000 from the life insurance company and transferred all of that money to Paul
in a series of seven transfers, even though their relationship wasn't super serious.
There's a lot of lying happening here and bad lying.
Yeah.
And at this point, Cheryl is still alive. And guess what, everybody, Paul
doesn't even know Cheryl at this point. Paul's married to another woman at this point. Because
correct, he is married. Sorry, I should have said that when you brought that point up.
I'm shooketh. He is married, but not to Cheryl. Just to another woman. Yeah, we'll get there.
So he's been at it for a long time. Oh, Paul. Paul stays at it. But yeah, so seven months later, Paul used that money to purchase his first bar in Burbank,
which he named the Grand Dutch.
Now, based on their investigation, detectives in the Cromwell case theorized that following
her makeover, Christina divorced Marlon and started her relationship with Paul,
only to rebury Mr. Cromwell less than a year later
in order to arrange for his murder and to cash out on that life insurance policy.
Cool.
Is it cash out or cash in?
I feel like do both work?
I think you can use both.
Yeah.
I would say both is fine.
Thanks.
Well, unfortunately, all the evidence they had was circumstantial and there was really
no way for them to prove that either Christina or Paul was involved in the death.
It just kind of looked like it.
Yeah.
According to author Ken Hurwitz, it appeared to the district attorney that even though they were likely,
they were the likely ones to commit this murder, it was best to wait and hope that more evidence would arrive.
Yeah.
And boy did it. Because remember.
It's just best to wait.
Just best to wait.
They probably did it, but like, let's, let's say.
Wait for more evidence.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, it's like, okay.
Now, after learning of Paul Purveiller's connection
to the death of Marlon Cromwell,
detectives who were investigating Cheryl's death
looked for an insurance policy taken out in Cheryl's name.
And they found that just a few months before her death,
Paul started a policy with a $25,000 payout.
Eek.
And this policy also had a double indemnity clause, meaning it would pay double in the
unlikely event of an accidental death or murder.
Oh no.
I feel like insurance companies need to not advertise this and just have it be a happy
surprise in the midst of a tragedy.
That's what I think.
It's like, you know, like it's really sad.
Everybody's upset.
We're going through grief.
And oh, here's a little silver lining.
Guess what?
You get more.
You got the good insurance.
But you didn't know that ahead of time.
Yes.
So we can be sure that you didn't take that
into consideration when all this was going on.
Exactly.
Well, while investigators continued
to pursue the insurance angle,
two detectives paid a
visit to Paul's first wife, Layla, hoping to learn what kind of husband Paul had been
to her, anything interesting about his past.
Oh, come on, Layla.
Layla had never met Cheryl and actually didn't even know she existed when the detectives
informed her of her death.
And when they told Layla that Cheryl had been killed, she started trembling and quote,
could not get her hands to be steady.
She was like freaking out.
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["Wonderful Night"] She told the Burbank detectives that her marriage to Paul had started out Plus.
She told the Burbank detectives that her marriage to Paul had started out like most marriages do. He was romantic, attentive.
They seemed genuinely happy to be married.
He seemed happy.
They did have money trouble from the early days.
Former girlfriend Morgan St. James said money had always been important to Paul.
He wanted things that were that were far beyond his reach.
And according to Leila, it was important to Paul
that people see him as successful,
which he defined in financial terms.
He even made it a point to inform everybody
that everybody he met that his cousin, Stanley Kubrick,
was a wildly successful film director,
hoping they would associate him with Kubrick's
success.
I'm sorry.
What?
Wait, wait, wait.
You got to say it.
Damn.
What?
I told you.
I told you this is quite an interesting case.
I had no idea Stanley Kubrick was going to make an appearance here.
I don't think Stanley Kubrick did either.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
I don't think he had any intention of making it.
I think Stanley said, keep me out of this.
He said, I'm going to go make an art film. Bye.
Yeah.
That what?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah. However, Paul was nothing like his cousin.
We stan Stan.
It doesn't sound like it.
No.
It doesn't sound like it.
In fact, after being fired from the LAPD, he seemed to just move from one scheme to the
other, just blowing his and Leila's money along the way on frivolous shit.
Shortly after their wedding, that was when Lela noticed a big shift in Paul's personality.
She said he became volatile and moody.
He would just ignore her.
Instead, he would choose to stay up late watching old movies and clean his guns instead of interacting
with her at all.
That's a no for me.
Yeah.
His indifference to Layla soon turned to anger and violence.
And I just want to give a trigger warning for, like,
domestic abuse here. This is a pretty rough one.
In fact, Leila reacted so physically to the news of Cheryl's death,
basically because there were so many occasions
where she believed that Paul was actually going to kill her.
Oh, that's awful.
Yeah. One afternoon, just about a year into their marriage,
she went out for a few hours, and when she got home, she found that Paul was extremely drunk and he was pissed about something,
like enraged.
Before she could even open the driver's side door, Paul yanked the door open and was on
top of her, punching her in the face over and over and screaming at her, I'm going
to kill you.
Whoa.
He then dragged her out of the car and started beating her head against
the side of the car to the point where she lost consciousness. And he only stopped when
he saw another car approaching. She ended up being hospitalized for several days with
very, very severe injuries to her head and face. But she declined to press charges because
she was afraid of Paul still obviously. So he never faced any kind of consequences for the assault. Wow. That's horrifying.
Horrifying. Now his attack on Leila seemed to come out of absolutely nowhere, but it
was just the beginning of a series of events that caused her to be absolutely terrified
of her husband. A month or so after the attack in the car, Leila suffered two serious hit
and runs, like one after the other, that
left her really badly injured, but luckily still alive. In one of the incidents, she
recalled the driver stopping after he hit her car and looking at her in the rearview
mirror, but she could only see his eyes, so she couldn't identify him. Now, despite
not seeing the driver either time, she believed the hit and run incidents had definitely been
orchestrated by Paul in an effort to get rid of her. And in each case, there was also an insurance
policy that paid out $5,000 after each incident. So they got $10,000. I really should say Paul
did. When asked why if she believed he was trying to kill her, did she stay with Paul
for so long? She explained that she believed if she tried to leave, he would kill her at that point.
Yeah, that must be terrifying.
Yeah, of course.
And as we know, that is the most dangerous time
to have an abusive partner.
And in the end, it turned out that the fear
that made her stay was actually also the thing
that finally convinced her to leave Paul.
Good.
Just a few weeks after that second hit and run,
Paul convinced Leila to join him for a day in the mountains
and he said, you know, we'll do some target shooting. So she reluctantly agreed to go with him.
I know. She reluctantly agreed to go. But when they got into the woods, Paul just paced
around for a while and never fired a shot, excuse me, and then decided it was time to
go home.
No, I don't like that at all. So at that point, that sounds like he
had intentions and he couldn't lost his nerve. 100%. And that's exactly what Layla thought.
She said she she knew she believed that he fully intended to kill her that day. And she
knew that if she didn't leave him, it would just be a matter of days before he did get
the confidence to do it. So it was also around this time that she learned of Paul's relationship
with Christina Cromwell,
which the courts would have deemed a justifiable reason
to dissolve the marriage.
So she took that opportunity and she divorced Paul.
But also another thing to think about here
is she had to have a reason to divorce,
like a justifiable reason.
She couldn't just be like,
I don't want to be in this relationship anymore.
Yeah, like what dumb
So hearing Layla's descriptions of the abuse she suffered at the hands of her ex-husband
Paul was as far as the detectives were concerned only further evidence of a pattern of behavior that
Had probably led to the death of his current wife Cheryl
But the problem was they couldn't prove that he had anything to do with Cheryl's death
According to Ken Hurwitz Paul walked Cheryl Purveller out to the car on the night of the murder, but his employees had never said that
he left the bar for enough time to physically get to the apartment, commit the murder, and
get back. So he hadn't done this.
Jesus.
Physical evidence of Paul's involvement was obviously hard to come by, but the circumstantial
evidence was just piling up.
Ten days after Cheryl's murder, investigators sat
down with Paul's co-worker and pretty much the closest thing he had to a
friend, a guy named Alan Halverson. They had actually worked together at the
insurance company and Halverson was drawn to Paul's charisma and exciting
lifestyle. But the more time he spent with Paul, the more he started to see a
side of Paul that few others had ever seen, save for his ex-wife, Leila.
At first, Alan was evasive
and pretty much seemed to be protecting Paul,
telling investigators that he just knew
how much Paul loved Cheryl
and how he would never do anything to hurt her.
But the detective, specifically one detective named Detective King,
could tell that Halverson was an empathetic person
and didn't seem accustomed to lying,
so he just kept pushing until Halverson finally caved.
After taking a deep breath, he looked at the detectives
and said he was afraid of Paul
after everything he had seen and heard.
Oh man.
According to him, Paul wasn't just involved
in the attempted murders of Layla,
but also several local robberies
and the death of Marlon Cromwell.
And he knew this all for fact.
Holy shit.
Halverson said the two men had been out at a bar
drinking together and had become quite drunk.
And Paul confessed that he'd killed Marlon Cromwell.
Halverson said he made the remark that quote,
I killed her husband,
referring to Christina Cromwell's husband.
Wow.
So the detectives could tell there was more
than just fear motivating Alan Halverson's
silence.
Like Leila, Alan also believed that Paul would kill him if he ever said anything about the
murder confession or his knowledge of the other crimes.
But at the same time, he was embarrassed and ashamed for not giving the police this information
sooner.
Yeah.
He told Detective King, don't ask me why I continued working for him.
I can't give you a logical explanation of why I did it.
So at 6 45 p.m. four Los Angeles police officers armed with shotguns entered the Grand Duke
bar and announced that they were placing Paul under arrest for the murders of Marlon Cromwell
and Cheryl Purveiller and the attempted murder of his ex-wife, Layla Purveyor.
Oh, shit.
And as they placed Paul in handcuffs and escorted him out of the car, he said,
don't you guys ever give up? He was just like, ugh.
Like he's just like, oh my God.
Like, wow.
Wow.
Shortly after midnight, a second team of officers caught up with Christina Cromwell
at the apartment she shared with her sister and placed her under arrest for the murder of her husband.
The evidence against Paul and Christina was pretty much almost entirely circumstantial,
but there was a lot of it.
The prosecutor from the district attorney's office, Vincent Bugliozzi, decided to take
a chance of that what evidence they did have would be compelling enough for a jury.
When the news hit the papers the next day, the press couldn't help but draw comparisons
to the popular film Double Indemnity, where a wealthy woman seduces an insurance agent
and convinces him to kill her husband.
Oh, shit.
It's very similar.
I love when they're like, we can't help but look at this and say, it's the same.
It is what it is.
It's a movie.
Yeah, the United Press International described the case as the late show come to life.
Wow.
Saying that the Preveler case, quote, does double indemnity one better?
Like, okay, guys, people died here in real life.
Yeah, it's like this is literal.
This is real people.
Yeah.
It's not a movie script.
These are not actors.
But the other aspects of the case were too good, too salacious to be ignored as far as
the press was involved. Paul's previous employment as an LAPD officer, rumors of illegal abortions,
and of course his ongoing affair with Christina Cromwell, which had motivated most of the
crimes. I'm like, I don't really know if it was his affair so much as it was the money,
but yeah, it was a piece of it. So on May 2nd, Paul and Christina were both formally
charged and arraigned a short time
later in district court.
The judge, Joan Dempsey-Clean, denied bail for both of them and remanded them to the
custody of the county pending a preliminary hearing.
On May 14th, Bugliozzi took the case to the grand jury with a simple case, like we said,
built on circumstantial evidence.
The prosecutor alleged that Paul Preveller and Christina Cromwell had been carrying
on an extramarital affair for years,
and that they had conspired to kill Layla Preveller
in order to cash in on her life insurance policy.
And when that plan failed, they devised a new strategy,
this time targeting Marlon Cromwell.
And when those insurance funds were beginning to run out,
they targeted Paul's new wife, Cheryl Preveiler.
I, like...
Imagine being this ruthless of a human being.
When you sit there and you wonder, like,
did he just plan to kill her all along?
Because they were married for seven months.
That's the thing.
And it's like, so he's dating Christina,
and at the same time, is he just hunting for a woman to kill,
to marry and kill? Yeah, that's the thing. Was there ever any love there? Like, is he just hunting for a woman to kill, to marry and
kill?
Yeah, that's a thing.
Was there ever any love there?
Did he pick her specifically because he was like, oh, I can kill her.
Right.
And who killed her?
That's, yeah.
Who did it actually?
Yeah.
Who pulled the trigger?
Holy shit.
Now, Boogaloo C, like we just said, couldn't connect either of the accused to the murders
directly, but the circumstantial evidence, more than 30 witness statements, and multiple bank transfers were compelling
enough for the grand jury to return indictments on all charges.
It was actually really unusual for a jury to indict without knowing the identity of
the actual killer, but Bugliosi's strategy emphasized that, quote, those responsible
for the murder stood to profit from insurance policies on the victims' lives, and and thus they should be held equally as responsible as whoever did commit the murders.
Yeah. On all counts, Paul and Christina pleaded not guilty. Lies. Yeah. Now a trial date was set
for November. And in the meantime, lawyers for Paul and Christina started petitioning the court
to have the trial separated, arguing that it would be prejudicial for Christina to be tried with Paul,
quote, because the greater number of counts against him.
Superior Judge Pierce Young listened to both sides,
but ultimately denied that motion to sever the trials.
He said, nope.
He locked those two in as co-defendants.
And to make matters worse for them, after Judge Young's decision,
the prosecutor's office announced that they'd be seeking the death penalty.
I mean, honestly, if I and again, we've we've gone, if you've listened to this, you know
our stances on the whole. Yeah, we're gray, like a super gray, but I lean more towards
being against it. If there's if there's a case where you it makes sense that they're
going for it. This makes sense. Like I can see why they were going for it here. Yeah, same.
So Paul and Christina's trial began on November 18, 1968,
which is weird because today is November 19,
which is the very next day.
But we were actually originally slated
to record this yesterday.
That is weird.
And that happens a lot.
That's the thing.
It's something that happens so often.
But so yes, years later, prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi would make a name for himself as
the prosecutor in the case against the Manson family.
Say it, say it, say it, say it.
Damn.
That's crazy though.
Yeah.
And subsequently as an author like yourself.
Oh my God.
There's some big players in this.
I know. But at the time, because this all happened before that,
he was young and pretty relatively inexperienced
as a prosecutor thus far.
He was green.
He was green.
So those two facts left many people wondering
if he was the right person for the job.
People were like, I don't know if this case is gonna go
like we want it to.
But when it came time for those opening arguments,
everybody was about to have egg on they face. A big disgrace. Yes. I don't know the rest of the word something
all over the place. But years later, something all over the place. Right? Kicking your can
all over the place. Is it kicking your can? You got mud on your face. Big disgrace. Kicking
your can all over the place.
Why does that feel wrong?
I don't know.
I guess your can is your butt.
Yeah, I'm looking it up.
I like that.
Yeah, we were right.
Okay, I second guessed myself.
I need to stop doing that.
I second guessed myself too. Well, years later, Pugliosi himself would write, I sometimes wave an opening statement,
feeling that it takes the edge off my witness's testimony when the jury has already heard
the story from me. But in this case, he understood that the timeline was long and pretty complicated.
The evidence was not always explicit in its importance and the killer was still unknown.
So he decided to take some time to clarify these finer points of the case and told the
jury that the deaths of Marlon Cromwell and Cheryl Purveiller had, quote, all the earmarks
of planned executions. He continued saying, we intend to prove by very strong circumstantial
evidence that Paul Purveiller was responsible for the murder of his wife Cheryl.
Emphasizing the word responsible to mean it was him who set things in motion.
Not necessarily pulled the trigger, but he is responsible here.
Interesting.
So lawyers for the defense, on the other hand,
they actually chose to waive their opening statements,
which I didn't know was an option.
I also didn't. Actually, maybe I did. Yeah, I feel like it's not something that really
pops up in our cases. I think I knew that it was a thing. It just, it really doesn't
pop up in our cases a lot. Yeah, I didn't even think of one, to be honest. But with
more than 100 witnesses called and a large amount of complicated evidence, the trial
dragged on for almost three months. So during this time, most of the public's attention was focused on Paul and Christina's
behavior in the courtroom, which many people found to be in poor taste.
Paul's former girlfriend, Morgan St. James, said Paul was flirting and winking with the
court reporter, and Christina showed up in a miniskirt.
What?
Yeah, not really either things you want to be doing while you're on trial for murder.
Probably not.
But despite the distractions, Bugliosi stayed mostly focused on what evidence he could show
to the jury to convince them of Paul's guilt. He wasn't able to prove Paul pulled the trigger
in either case, obviously, but he was able to show the bank transfers that happened shortly
after each murder occurred and the policy started paying out. And it was the timing of the murders
and the transfers more than anything else that really seemed to get through to the jury because that's hard to argue.
It is.
Like you got numbers in front of you.
But regardless of who actually committed the murders, the quick transfer of funds, seven
in total, was according to Bugliozzi, evidence that neither murder would have occurred without
Paul's orchestration.
Exactly.
Now, if his strategy was focused and simple,
intended to make sense to anybody on the jury,
the defense had different ideas about how they should proceed.
Rather than attempt to refute the prosecution's evidence
and witness statements or anything like that,
lawyers for Paul and Christina attempted
to place blame on each other because they each
had their own set of lawyers.
There it is.
I was waiting for that.
Yeah.
Paul's lawyer Mel Albom argued that Christina had orchestrated both murders in order to have
Paul all to herself.
And her lawyer argued that Christina was just another victim who'd been manipulated by
Paul, which is kind of believable.
Yeah, absolutely.
Now, on February 15th, Bugliosi gave his closing remarks.
He summarized the case for the jury as just a simple matter of murder for profit and criticized the defense for quote, throwing up a smoke screen around the
facts of the case in order to escape into the darkness of reasonable doubt, which is poetic.
Yeah.
And correct.
Escape into the darkness.
Yeah, I love it.
If you listen to the rewatcher, it made me immediately think of Into the D'Arc-N'Yah.
Into the D'Arc-N'Yah.
Go listen to the rewatcher.
Go listen to that show.
It's great.
Mel Alba, meanwhile, tried to place blame on the prosecution's main witness.
You might remember one, Alan Halverson.
Oh, I do.
And he argued that it was actually Halverson who had killed Cheryl.
Oh.
Not true.
But after closing statements were given, the jury retired for deliberation.
On February 18th, after three days of deliberation, they returned to announce that they found
Paul Preveller guilty on two counts of first degree murder and guilty on one count of attempted
murder.
Wow.
Yeah.
So they found him guilty across the board.
Damn.
And they found Christina Cromwell guilty of one count of first degree murder as well.
Vincent Bugliosi's
case had been very complicated, as we know, very circumstantial, but in the end, he was
able to convince that jury that each defendant had played essential roles in the deaths of
their spouses, even if they didn't do the killing themselves.
That's very, very interesting.
Yeah, and as a green prosecutor at the time.
That's the thing, Like that's very fascinating.
And I mean, he must have been very persuasive with such a circumstantial case to be for
beyond a reasonable doubt.
I think those transfers really spoke for themselves and the fact that there, there are, you know, two deaths here
and there's a time between them.
Two very specific deaths too.
Very specific and those transfers align so perfectly.
Yeah.
With like in conjunction to that timeline,
you know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
So Paul and Christina were back in court
for sentencing on February 24th, 1969.
And Bugliosi followed through on his earlier statements
and asked the jury
to sentence each of them to death for their roles in the murders. He told the jury to
Paul Preveller, the taking of a human life is like taking a drink of water.
That's scary.
That hits. Christina's attorney, David Kogus, argued that his client was, quote, not an
equal partner in the slaying of Cromwell and that she went along with the crime only because
she was under Preveller's Spengali influence.
Wow.
Pulling out the Spengali.
I know, I had to look that up.
The following day, February 26th,
the jury announced their decisions.
For her role in the murder of her husband,
Christina Cromwell was sentenced to life in prison,
but she did get the eligibility for parole after seven years.
Oh, whenever you hear life in prison and then you're like,
but after seven years, you can probably get out.
It's like, what is that?
Yeah.
I would say that too.
Like what a weird conflicting statement.
The rest of your life, unless you can reach the hearts of the parole board in seven years.
Like, wow.
As for Paul Purveiller though, they sentenced him to death in the gas chamber.
Yes.
Which is honestly,
you have to think about how remarkable that is because-
That is remarkable.
Everybody on that jury like sat there knowing
that he did not actively kill Cheryl and did not act.
I mean, we don't know if he actively killed them.
But they could not technically prove
that he had a actual physical hand in the act itself.
Right.
But to sentence him to death even still is interesting.
That's the thing.
This is an interesting case.
But when asked for comment on the sentences, Paul told reporters it was the sentence he'd
been hoping for.
He said, I don't want to spend the rest of my life in prison.
Just like one final jackass.
Yeah, it's him being like, you know what?
I wanted that.
I wanted that actually, so thanks.
Like, okay, you petulant fucking child.
But for those most affected by the trial, the verdicts and sentences came as obviously
a significant relief.
Yeah.
Alan Halverson and Leila Purveiller, the state's two most important witnesses, actually started
spending a lot of time together during the trial.
Shut up.
And they eventually got married.
Oh my gosh.
Because they had the bond over like this very unusual shared experience.
Wow.
Isn't that awesome?
I hope they had a lovely life.
It sounds like they did.
Oh good.
Yeah.
You know.
And in 1972, as you might remember, well, not saying you were alive, but...
Wow.
That's not what I was saying. just because it's come up a lot.
California repealed the death penalty,
and all death row inmates had their sentences commuted to life in prison.
Which, honestly, is actually hilarious to me,
that he was like, I wanted to go to the gas chamber.
And the state was like, oh, psych!
You thought!
Only a few years later, too.
So this meant that Paul, who had been sentenced, like we just said, to die in prison, was now eligible for parole, sorry, you thought only a few years later too. So this meant that Paul who had been sentenced, like we just said to die in
prison was now eligible for parole though, as early as 1984.
Forgot about that.
So in response to that, I also was not alive then either.
She wasn't.
No, just.
You were, you were like on your way though.
No, I'm at the end of the next year.
I wasn't on my way.
I don't know how it all
works. They were thinking about you. Actually, they weren't. You were surprised. I was going to say they didn't.
Actually, you were. You were the stomach flu. But in response to that change, Laila Halverson,
Halverson now. Oh, look at that. And California Assemblyman Patrick Nolan started lobbying very
hard to keep Paul, who they described as a cold calculating killer, in prison for the rest of his life.
Yeah, I get that.
They said, we're asking everyone to join us with requesting that the Board of Prison
Term reopen the Purveiller case and revoke his parole in light of the cold blooded crimes
committed by him.
Yeah.
And it turned out that they were not alone in their quest.
They also had the support of the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office.
In a statement to reporters, Deputy District Attorney Steve Souter said, Purveiller is
performing on paper like a model prisoner, but he himself did not believe that Paul had
genuinely reformed in any way and openly supported the Halverson's case.
So in 1976, Christina Cromwell was actually paroled from prison.
I knew you were going to tell me that.
She did not spend a lot of time in there.
In the years that followed though, she did become a key witness in the district attorney's
efforts to keep Paul behind bars whenever he became eligible for parole.
Yeah.
What else are you going to do?
At a parole hearing in 1986 when Elena was alive, Christina Cromwell testified for nearly
four hours.
And during that time, she told the board that in 1966,
this is crazy, Paul had given his parents a trip to Mexico
as an anniversary party,
but then tried to have his parents murdered
as they traveled between Tijuana and Ensenada.
I'm sorry, he tried to have his,
he tried to kill his own parents?
Paul's father was shot in the face during the attack, but was unable to identify the
shooter and the case went cold.
Oh, this guy's a fucking monster.
Literally.
He was going way far back.
His parents' anniversary.
He was going to have them killed and cash in on the money.
Holy shit.
Yeah, he's a fucking...
Cold-blooded.
Yeah.
But at the time, it was also revealed that during the attack on Layla, where Paul beat
her brutally, Christina was in the car waiting nearby to help Paul flee the scene.
Oh, fucker.
Which I'm like, yeah.
Yeah, that's fucked up.
Yeah.
Now, all of Paul's subsequent...
Oh my God, that's awful.
It is awful.
All of Paul's subsequent bids for parole have been denied
and he remains in prison to this day
at Mule Creek Correctional Facility in California.
Damn.
Yes.
That wasn't even intentional.
I just meant damn.
In reflecting on the case for the Discovery Channel,
executive director of the Los Angeles Police Museum,
it's a mouthful, told producers, Paul was from a moneyed family
and certainly could have found easier ways to get money.
He said, as these attacks went on,
each got more and more violent.
I don't think he was killing for insurance money.
I think Preveler was a stone cold killer.
I think exactly. I think it started off as a money thing.
And like, or what he was trying to think of as a money thing,
but there's
no way.
I think the money was an added bonus. I think he liked the feeling of power of being able
to just be like that person gone.
And he's obviously like a monster. I mean, he literally had his own marriages. Yeah.
He's a monster. He had his own parents attacked. Yeah. And that was shot in the face. Like,
are you kidding me? Yeah. like, wild. Poor Layla.
I know.
Like, he's a monster.
And then to find out that the woman he was cheating on you with was sitting in the car,
in the getaway car.
And then she's just out walking around.
Like what?
That's fucked.
Yeah, scary, scary shit.
What a strange story.
Very strange case.
Very interesting.
And who the fuck killed Cheryl?
Well, that's the main takeaway here.
And who killed Marlin?
Is who the fuck is the person who did it?
We don't know.
They escaped into the darkness, literally.
Wow.
Which is honestly like the scariest shit I've ever heard.
Very haunting.
Yeah.
You just wonder who he was connected to and...
Wow, that's the thing. Like you don't know how far this goes. Damn. You just wonder who he was connected to and... Wow. That's the thing. Like, you don't know how far this goes.
Damn.
You just don't.
But...
We'll never know.
That's that. That's the case for you and we hope you keep listening.
We hope you.
Keep it.
Damn.
Weird.
Damn.
But not so weird that all you can say is damn.
But I've been there too, so keep it that way. I can't help it. Bye, damn. Damn. But not so weird that all you can say is damn. But I'm in there too so keep it that way.
I can't help it.
Bye, damn.
Damn.
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