Morbid - Episode 638: The Crash of Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571
Episode Date: January 20, 2025On October 13, 1972, a chartered aircraft carrying forty-five passengers, including 19 members of the Old Christians’ Club rugby team, departed from Montevideo, Uruguay bound for Santiago, ...Chile. About an hour into the flight, the copilot incorrectly believed the plane had gotten off course and requested permission from air traffic control in Santiago to begin his descent and course correct. However, when the plane began descending out of the cloud cover, the copilot realized he’d been wrong about their position and were in fact dangerous close to the Andes mountains. The pilots attempted to pull the plane back up, but they were unsuccessful and the crashed directly into the mountain.Ultimately, sixteen of the forty-five passengers survived the crash of flight 571, spending seventy-two days in an isolated, untraveled part of the Andes. They endured extremely harsh conditions including sub-zero temperatures, exposure to freezing wind, and most significantly, starvation. The survivors were eventually rescued after two passengers hiked three days out of the mountains, using only materials from the wreckage to aid in the trek, where they eventually found help. In the years since the crash, the story of Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 has become one of the most famous tales of survival and human endurance.Thank you to the Incredible Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for research and Writing support!ReferencesAssociated Press. 1972. "16 survive 2 months in Andes after crash." Boston Globe, December 23: 2.—. 1972. "Crash survivors resorted to cannibalism." Boston Globe, December 27: 2.—. 1972. "16 Air crash survivors found after 69 days in icy Andes." Los Angeles Times, December 23: 1.Benales, Carlos. 1972. "Andes survivors solved problem of food, shelter." Chicago Tribune, December 31: 9.Campbell, Matthew. 2022. "Fifty years on, 'Alive' team say eating flesh was awful but they got used to it." Sunday Times, October 16.Godfrey, Chris. 2023. "My plane crashed in the Andes. Only the unthinkable kept me and the other starving survivirs alive." The Guardian, December 4.Lilliston, Lynn. 1974. "Andes crash survivors tell their story." Los Angeles Times, May 5: 179.Read, Piers Paul. 1974. Alive: The Story of the Andes Survivors. New York, NY: J.B. Lippincott Company.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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thinking of New Orleans right now. So with that being said, let's get into...
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She just whipped her hair out and she said, with that being said, I mean, she got comfy
to tell the story.
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So you immediately have to take a layer off.
I was immediately sweating.
Toss your curls.
Well, we figured we would start off this, you know, we didn't even plan this, but we're
going to start the year off with a mostly survival story.
Hell yeah.
Some people pass away in this, not great, very tragic.
This story is brutal, it's tragic,
but it's also got this side of it
that is like really inspiring, like really beautiful.
These people came together and took care of each other.
We're talking about the crash
of Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571.
You may know it as the case, the
alive case. There's a movie about it, there's a book about it. I'm sure you know it for one
particular aspect of it, but Dave and I are here to tell you more about it because that is one very big aspect of it, obviously.
The cannibalism is a big part of this.
But when you hear the other shit that these people survived and the way that they held
on to each other and took care of each other and just immediately went into survival mode,
they all like, the mindset that everyone went into is like unbelievable.
Because it's horrifying.
You would have to.
Yeah.
But some people can't.
No, I could.
I don't know that I could.
Yeah.
And these people did.
It's really, really a fascinating case.
So let's start back in 1971.
The old Christians Club, which was an amateur Uruguayan rugby team, they chartered a small
play into Chile to play in a championship game against the Chilean national team.
For most members of the Old Christians, the trip was honestly the first time they'd ever
been on a plane and the first time they'd ever traveled far away from home.
This is not when they crash. They didn't end up winning the championship, but
the trip was pretty exciting, pretty fun, pretty great. Everybody loved it. So when
they returned home, they were like, we got to start planning another trip for the next
year. Like this was too much fun. So by the time the next year came around, the team found
themselves unfortunately not in the best position like last year for going to the Nationals.
Okay. They'd been a little overconfident here causing them to lose the Uruguayan Championship.
And this is a quote, to a team they considered inferior. Oh, no. So I think the cockiness got
the best of them here. The loss made the team's officers questioned whether honestly they wanted
to invest the money in a trip for what they were considering a losing team at this point.
But eventually they ended up being convinced that this was a good idea, it was going to be fun,
it was going to be great. And in the fall of 1972, the members of the Old Christians Club
began planning their trip to Santiago, Chile. Okay. Despite their enthusiasm, there were some problems right away.
The cost of charting the small Fairchild FH227D plane from the Uruguayan Air Force
was approximately $1,600, which now is $12,000.
I was going to say, I feel like that today, in today's money, that would be a lot.
Yeah. So in order to afford it,
they were gonna have to fill all 40 seats.
Now, they only had 19 people on their team.
Oh.
So that's a problem.
That's a big problem.
So they were faced with the very real possibility
of having to cancel this trip.
And so the members of the team
started reaching out to friends, family,
anyone they thought might be interested
in taking a trip to Chile.
By the time the day of the flight had arrived, they had assembled a group of 40 passengers,
which were including family members of the team, several students interested in visiting
Chile, and one woman who was traveling to attend her daughter's wedding.
Now around 6 a.m. on October 12th, 1972, the passengers started arriving at the Carrasco
Airport to board the plane. Everyone was super light. The mood was light. Everyone's just
excited. It's like this is a fun little trip. But they soon encountered another problem.
One person from their group, Gilberto Regulus, had not arrived.
Although it was a private flight and obviously they didn't have the strictest schedule,
they had been informed that the flight would need to leave as early as possible to avoid
bad weather.
Okay.
So they were put behind by him being late.
The flight was finally able to leave a little after 8 a.m.
piloted by two very experienced pilots who are actually from the Uruguayan Air Force.
Oh, wow.
But because of the late start, the plane ran into the weather that made it impossible to pass through
the Cordillera Range and into the Andes. So they had to land the plane in Mendoza, Argentina,
and wait till the following day because they didn't want to go through that weather.
Yeah, smart.
Especially going through a mountain range.
Yeah, that could be wily.
Now the pilots were not just concerned about the weather though.
There was this like super strict regulation against the Uruguayan Air Force where they
couldn't spend more than 24 hours on Argentinian soil.
Oh, shit.
And if they did, they would get fined like like seriously fined, or they would get a more
serious penalty.
It's like an international incident at that point.
Oh, wow.
Like it's not good.
Yeah.
Now, under those circumstances, the pilots told the passengers to, you know, go, come
back to the airport by 1 p.m. and we'll get going.
We got to get out of here.
But when they arrived, the pilots were nowhere to be seen.
Instead, several administrative delays caused them to be late.
They ended up missing the window to leave
and having to wait until the next morning.
Oh, shit.
This is the flight, by the way.
The amount of times that this got like-
Derailed.
Derailed.
When you look back on it, you're like, whoa. What was that play here?
The next morning, everyone gathered at the airport only to find that the weather conditions
over the Andes had not improved. Oh no. But the Uruguayans were under a tight time restriction
to leave Argentina. So the pilot and co-pilot Julio Cesar Ferratus and Dante Hector Lagarrara
decided that it was honestly better to probably face the inclement weather than risk a literal
international incident.
Yeah, I can get that.
I understand the thought process there because they're also very experienced pilots. They're
in the Air Force. They're probably thinking, OK, we can get through it.
It's going to be turbulent.
But we'll get through that.
It's a short flight.
Oh, but it's a small plane.
Yeah.
And because, you know, they had to make the choice,
the flight left Mendoza a little after 2 PM.
OK.
Within a few minutes, the plane had reached 18,000 feet
and was cruising between 20 and 60 knots.
And they were thinking they were going to reach Santiago
in honestly a little under two hours.
It was going to be super fast.
That's a quick flight.
It was an older model plane,
but it was equipped with an automatic direction finder,
also known as an ADF, and a VHF omni-directional range.
Both of these things were critical for keeping the flight on course
and staying in the proper airspace.
Okay.
About an hour into the flight, the plane reached the Cordillera and La Guerrara dropped into a new
air lane and switched frequencies to put them in contact with air traffic control in Santiago.
Yeah.
So as he did this, they entered a patch of dense cloud cover and so they ascended so that they could get better visibility over it.
At this point, everything's going fine,
flight is on schedule.
Now at 321 p.m., Lagarrara radioed Santiago
to inform them that they were over the pass of Planchón,
and were about to fly over Curico,
which is a small town on the west side of the Andes.
A few minutes later, Lagarrara radioed again to say the flight was making a slight right angle
in order to course correct and keep on the right flight path.
Unable to track the flight, Santiago's air traffic control took the co-pilot at his word,
because once they go out of that flight, like, he can't track it.
Can't do anything, yeah.
And he was like, you know what, basically, air traffic control is like, he's probably been accurately
tracking the flight.
So they authorized him to descend to 10,000 feet,
and they began preparing for the descent.
OK.
Now the plane had descended 3,000 feet.
And again, it was going to be descending 10,000 feet.
Yeah.
So it went down 3,000 feet when they shifted from one air current to another,
and that caused the plane to jump and shake
as it moved to one from that current.
Can I just say, I give you so much credit
for telling this story as somebody with a fear of flying.
Now, the reason I am okay with this is one,
we have different regulations,
and two, this is a smaller plane,
and three, it's flying very close
to a mountain range and I have no plans to do that. Lagarara turned on the seatbelt signs and
directed the passengers to go back to their seats just to avoid any injuries during the turbulence.
And a minute or two later, the plane lurched and dropped several hundred feet because it hit an
air pocket. I think we've all kind of been in that scenario
where it hits an air pocket and it just goes, whoop.
Yep.
I'm not...
Horrifying.
I can get in the vibe now that like turbulence
won't make you fall out of the sky and like...
Jello.
It's just jello.
Air pockets can go fuck themselves because that has happened to me
and I thought, I was like, this is it.
Yeah.
Like it's just, it's the worst feeling...
That shit's scary.
...in the world to me.
Yeah. Not fun.
And this one, the several hundred feet drop,
the passengers were all very alarmed.
Like they were panicked a little bit.
Now the young men on the rugby team started to chant,
hoping that the words would distract the other passengers
from this like panicked moment.
I'm not gonna lie, I would fucking hate that. I would hate that so much. I'd cry.
I just start crying. They were doing it thinking like,
just listen to us, just listen to us. Like, don't pay attention to what's happening.
They're like, that's sweet. And when you hear what they do, like you're like, you're just like, damn,
like you guys were just, thank goodness it was you guys who had to like help each other. You know
what I mean? Yeah.
It's like you were all there for each other. Now, most of the members of the rugby team and
the others who joined in their chant could not see out the window. So they assumed turbulence was
just, you know, this is bad turbulence. But the people who could see out of the window, they were
like, something's wrong here. Because that second bout of turbulence was caused by the air pocket
something's wrong here. Because that second bout of turbulence
was caused by the air pocket
and it caused the plane to again,
drop out of the cloud cover
that they had been above before.
And so they could look out the window
and see that they weren't seeing, you know,
Chilean villages thousands of feet below them
like they should have seen
because they were descending.
They saw the edges of the snow coveredcovered Andes about 10 feet from the
tip of the wing. Oh no. That's what I'm talking about. They were not supposed to be there.
This was not supposed to be happening. They 10 feet from the tip of the wing, they see the mountain.
Dude. How do you come to any kind of resolution
in that moment?
I give them all credit
because I would have immediate cardiac arrest.
100%. I think that would be it.
100%. It would be curtains for me right away.
Like, that's it.
I see that. 10 feet.
It's gone.
You would think you were in a nightmare.
You'd think you're dreaming.
I literally can't fathom this.
No, you can't. Like, my brain literally can't fathom this. Like my brain
won't allow me to go into this place where they had to be. Like I can't fathom this.
Yes. My brain is deep in self-preservation. She said I will not.
My imagination, boop, turned off. Like during this whole thing, my imagination went,
I'm going to take a holiday. I'll see you after you're done. It erased the white board. Yes, it went, bye.
Like, I don't think any further into this.
Yeah.
Now, the passengers felt the plane lurch again
as the co-pilot tried to make a rapid ascent,
tried to lift back up so we could get the fuck out of this mountain valley,
but it was too late.
The engine struggled to accommodate the ascent.
The right wing tip caught the edge of the mountain
and it tore the right wing from the plane
and sent it flying back over the fuselage
where it struck the tail and ripped the tail from the plane.
The wing hit the tail of the plane?
Yep, and ripped it from the plane.
As this happened, a flight attendant and a row of three young men from the plane. Yep, and ripped it from the plane. As this happened, a flight attendant and
a row of three young men from the team were torn, it was torn loose the whole row and they all got
sucked out of the hole. Just gone. So three of the people on the team and one flight attendant
were sucked right out of the hole immediately.
Oh my God.
A few seconds later, the left wing caught on the other side of the mountain and it tore it that
free and ripped a second hole in the fuselage. Then a blade from the propeller broke free,
ripped into the fuselage and it flew behind the plane.
And so now the plane is flying with no tail and no wings.
It's just a fuselage.
Just like free falling.
So it just started hurtling towards the mountain like free falling.
Yeah.
100%.
Just like nose diving towards the mountain.
Oh my fucking God.
It crashed into a steep valley and luckily there was deep, deep snowfall that cushioned the plane. Cushioned
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The fact that anyone survived that is absolutely mind boggling.
And so many people did.
Yeah.
And also, they said if, because it was going 230, approximately 230 miles an hour when
it hit the fucking mountain, if it had hit the floor, the ground, it would have just
obliterated the fuselage.
There would have been nothing left of anybody or anything.
Anything, exactly. But because of the snow,
it at least cushioned it enough that it didn't obliterate.
Just like all the stops along the way and all the, there's some kind of weird thing going on.
Some vibe going on. I don't know what it is, but before the plane hit the snow,
two more young men were ripped out of the side, but the rest of the passengers were all buckled
into their seats. Once the fuselage hit the ground, the speed caused the plane to slide down the valley
as it was like losing momentum. And the crash caused tons of the rows of seats in the plane
to become unsecured from the floor. And as it's flying down the valley, skidding down the
valley, the rows are shifting forward and they crushed many of the passengers between seats.
Oh my God. So several of the passengers who fucking survived the crash were killed
because they were crushed by the twisted metal and plastic in the slide on the way down the mountains.
Oh my.
And then a bunch more got way more injured
in this as well.
Of course, yeah.
And finally the plane came to a stop.
Okay.
Now Roberto Canessa, who was a medical student
who'd booked the cheap flight
for a short vacation in Chile.
Oh. Yep.
He was among one of the first people to wake up
in the plane, because they were all gone, like out.
Yeah, of course.
In its slide down the mountain, the fuselage had shifted
and come to a stop on its side, so it tossed the bodies
of living people and dead people throughout the interior
of the fuselage.
Oh, God.
So, Canessa quickly located his friend Daniel Maspons and helped
to free him from his seat. And then they started making their way through the plane looking
for survivors. And Roberto, Kinesa is a medical student, so he's trying to think of anything
he can do to help anybody. But when some of the survivors made their way out of the plane
for the first time, they found themselves in the scariest scenario
you can possibly imagine, complete isolation.
They were surrounded by mountain walls on three sides.
And then the one open side looked straight down into a valley.
And they said it looked like it went on for miles,
like just gone.
Everywhere they looked, they said they saw ice, snow, and they couldn't tell
whether it was, I mean, it was dozens and dozens of feet deep in places.
Yeah.
And because they hadn't planned on being in any cold temperatures, they were going
to Chile from Argentina, like what?
All of the passengers had dressed in warm weather clothing.
Of course.
So none of them were prepared
for the literal sub-zero temperatures outside.
Not me packing my fucking park on every flight
I go on from this day forward.
Now once outside, two of the rugby team members
spotted their friend Carlos Valletta,
and this is very sad, a few yards from the plane,
and neither of them knew how Carlos had come to be
so far outside of the plane, and neither of them knew how Carlos had come to be so far outside
of the plane. But he seemed confused and was walking in the direction of that steep valley.
And so they all called out to him, hoping that their voices would bring him back towards
them. But it looked like he couldn't see them, he couldn't hear them, and he just walked
deeper and deeper into the snow. And they were terrified that he was going to slip and fall into the valley. So two of them tried to walk out there or
like crawl out there to get to him, but the snow was too deep and the incline was way
too steep. And so they only made it about a dozen or so feet before turning back. And
they all just watched helplessly as Carlos stumbled in the snow and then he tried to stand but he
slipped a second time and then he just tumbled into the valley below. And they
just had to watch this happen. That's horrific. Yeah like their friend just
watching this happen. Now back inside the plane the two medical students
Roberto Canessa and Gustavo Serbino they did their best to try to help the injured people.
But it's like, you don't even have anything.
They're medical students too.
Like they are not doctors yet.
Like they only know what they know.
And then again, like you said,
they don't have any medical supplies really.
Like, and also Zerbino was only in his first year
of medical school and he was studying to be a psychologist.
So he wasn't super familiar with
emergency medicine. He had some knowledge, but he was like, uh, it's not like I'm trying. Yeah.
Aside from the six passengers who'd been thrown from the plane when it started to break apart,
only three others died on impact. Wow. Yeah. That's insane. I know. The rest suffered a wide
range of injuries, many of which were pretty serious.
Several people were unconscious and many, mostly all, were in a state of physical and
or psychological shock. By the time one of the team members, Moncho Sabella, managed to reach
the cockpit, there was really nothing they could do to help Ferratus or LaGarrara, the pilot and co-pilot.
Oh, that's so sad.
The nose of the plane had been absolutely crushed
when the plane landed in the valley,
and it crushed the instrument panels
into the chests of the pilot and co-pilot.
Oh, God.
They were still strapped into their seats,
and looking through the windshield,
Sabella could tell that Ferratus was definitely already dead,
but Laurrara
was still alive and was conscious.
Oh God, at that point, what do you do?
So they couldn't do anything, like literally, he was in bad shape.
So there was really nothing they could do.
So Sibela grabbed several handfuls of snow and packed them into his handkerchief, just to try to
like comfort Lagarrara as he died, like just kind of like easing his wounds and stuff and
just like being there with him. Right. And he just sat with him until he died, like just
like comforted him. Wow. But he had the entire instrument panel, like think about a cockpit,
that whole thing was crushed against him. That's like, okay, my imagination will not.
Yeah. Now, Nando Perado was another passenger on the plane. And the first thing he said he
remembered was absolute blackness. He said, I'm dead. This is death. It's so black that this is
death. And he said when he woke up, he had no idea how much time had passed between the crash
and him waking up.
That must be so strange, like so disorienting.
And then he said he was so thirsty, like all of a sudden he was just so thirsty. So he
said, if I'm dead, I cannot crave water. So he was like, I'm alive. So like, okay, that's
my like moment. So he started coming to, and he said, that's when he realized his head
was throbbing and everything, everybody was talking around him. It's just like a cacophony of voices.
The stress.
Yeah.
And he said, when he opened his eyes,
he saw several of his friends' faces
who were gathered around him.
And that's when he saw that they were surrounded
by the wreckage.
Like he was like, what the fuck is going on?
So he's like, okay, the plane crashed.
And they explained it to him.
They said several passengers didn't make it. And they said, okay, the plane crashed. And they explained it to him. They said several passengers didn't
make it. And they said, unfortunately, including Nando's mother, Eugenia, and his best friend,
Panchito Abal. And his sister, Susie, was very injured and was laying nearby on the floor of
the cockpit. Like his whole family's there. And Nando remembered crawling over to where she was laying on the floor and curling up beside her. And he
said, I stayed with her. I melted snow with my mouth and gave her water because we didn't have
anything. We didn't have cups. Oh my God. He melted snow in his mouth to give to his dying sister. That is a brother.
Like, I was just like, oh, damn, Nando.
And unfortunately, Susie would die
from her injuries on the eighth day.
Oh my God.
And Nando said that he had a lot,
like later is when it really hit.
Like, cause he said, what he said later was that
he learned that at those moments,
my brain didn't react to anything that was outside survival.
I couldn't cry.
I didn't feel sorrow.
Yeah, you're in shock.
And he said they buried her alongside the others
that the day after she died.
Oh, that's so sad.
Now the next day when Nando was able to stand
and kind of walk, he went outside for the first time
and was overwhelmed by what he saw.
He said, I saw the magnitude of the place and was overwhelmed by what he saw. He said,
I saw the magnitude of the place we're in. It's immense. It's huge. And I said, fuck,
this is going to be horrible. How are we going to get out of here? They won't find us here.
Nicole Soule I mean, I don't know, like, how would,
I don't even know how they were found.
Lauren Henry And well, and it's worse because he was right. There was very little chance of
anyone having found them on that
ridge because when the plane failed to arrive in Santiago, the Chilean Air Search and Rescue
Service was alerted and they started searching by the air. But the problem was the plane had come
to rest at an elevation of roughly 12,000 feet and it was tucked into a valley, which is not
very visible from the air anyway. And also the fuselage was white.
So it was just blending into the snow.
And I didn't even think of that.
Yeah.
And then what's even worse is that the search and rescue team were
searching an area they believe the plane had been to based on the flight plan.
They never knew that they had gone off course because they had just kind of
trusted each other there
Yeah, and then all hell broke loose
Now in the first few days after the crash the survivors listened to updates on the plane's radio
Until after ten days, they heard a report that the search was called off
Imagine hearing that no like of all they've gone through and all they've been through up to this point
Then you hear
that they're not looking for you anymore.
Because you would just think I'm going to die here.
And what's wild is they didn't lose hope here.
That's remarkable.
They somehow took this as like, okay, now our survival is in our hands.
Like we need to do it.
Like what the fuck?
I'm like, that is, I mean, you go one of two ways there.
These strengths that, like, talk about the human spirit,
right there, like, damn.
Team building.
Like, the fact that they're just like, okay,
so they're not looking for us anymore.
Now we gotta do it.
We're the only people who can get us out of here.
Now, Ramon Sabella said, thinking of the suffering
that must have caused our families at home
made us even more determined to survive.
So knowing that the search was called off
and knowing their families were probably devastated,
they were like, now we gotta get the fuck out of here.
And of course, none of the survivors had any idea
where they were or which direction
that civilization even was.
And then you must be so scared to go in the wrong direction
to end up even further lost.
Exactly.
Now the first week or so on the mountain was spent taking stock of their resources,
stabilizing the injured, and reinforcing what very little shelter they had inside the plane.
But those that were physically able to spent most of their time doing their best to cover the holes
in the side of the plane to keep out the sub-zero wind. And then they also were piling and packing snow to create a barrier from
the elements. And since it was supposed to be a short trip with a small number of people, there
weren't many resources to even be had in that plane. Chile has a warm climate like we were talking
about, so no one had clothing for cold weather. And other than some candy and other small snacks,
there was no food on board. Oh.
And they couldn't find the luggage.
The luggage was nowhere to be found.
The environment also offered very little in that respect.
They were not gonna find food out here.
It was freezing cold, super desolate.
Other than some roots and some highly questionable berries,
which they definitely all found out,
there was very little to eat out there.
Oh, there. What
they did have though was snow in every fucking direction. So at least they thought they were
like, okay, well, we're not going to dehydrate. Like we always have water. We can always just
eat snow and melt snow. How long can you go without food? How many days? I got to Google
it. I don't know how many days you can go. I know. I can't remember which one is longer.
It's definitely food. It's food, right?
Yeah. You can go longer without food than water, I think. You dehydrate wicked quick.
Yeah. That's, yeah. It says, so the body's response to not eating can be broken down into
three phases. Phase one, the body uses its stored glucose and glycogen, which usually happens within
24 hours. Then phase two, your body breaks down fat to create glucose and ketone
bodies to fuel the brain, which we were just saying, these are athletes.
They don't have a high body fat percentage.
And then phase three, the body breaks down muscle tissue to
convert amino acids to glucose.
This phase is called protein wasting and can be fatal if protein losses over 50%.
Damn.
That's crazy.
And just think of how weak you would feel.
Oh yeah.
And you're just trying to survive.
Literally survive.
And the snow thing, like that was like, to them it was a blessing.
They were like, we are surrounded by snow.
We will not dehydrate.
That is like one of the biggest problems that we would have had solved.
So at least we have that.
And they're all like,
it's again, the way they're looking at the situation. Like these people had the best mindset
you could possibly imagine. But it also became kind of a curse because the snow kept them
hydrated, but the temperature of the snow made it difficult to consume at all because it would burn
their mouths and throats. It was so cold. Oh, God. Now, the days were obviously exhausting. They were challenging, but the nights...
I can't imagine.
The nights were brutal.
Because it's so much colder.
Yeah. Anybody who was feeling strong physically or honestly, like mentally,
did their best to keep up the spirits of those that were injured. And those who'd lost hope,
you know, they were trying to make them believe that they could get out of here. They would tell
them stories to pass the time. They would dress to sing to distract them, like anything. And with
nothing but the cloth from the seats to protect them from the cold, all of the survivors huddled
close to one another during the night, just like in one big pile in the fuselage, like relying on body heat to keep them from freezing. And during the
night, their clothing and hair would freeze, like every single night, and they would take
turns punching each other's arms and legs to improve circulation.
Oh my God.
And when they became too exhausted to actually hit each other, they would then get as close as possible to each other
and just try to breathe like hot breath on each other.
Wow, that's a fucking nightmare.
Like, what?
Like just-
To take care of your fellow human like that though.
Yeah, and just not give up.
Like wow.
And within a few weeks,
everything that he had even remotely passed as food had been eaten. Was Like, wow. And within a few weeks, everything that he had even remotely passed
as food had been eaten. And the remaining survivors were looking at starvation. They
were like, we might die of starvation. We've survived this far and we're going to starve
to death out here. And in the days immediately following the crash, they struck, they stuck
to very strict rations for everyone. A scrap of the, and they said, um, from alive, uh, which is a very interesting
book, I highly recommend it.
We'll definitely, um, Lincoln, the show notes.
Uh, they said a scrap of chocolate, a cap full of wine and a teaspoon of jam or
tinned fish every for the day.
Wow.
And when that ran out, some tried to eat the leather straps from any of the seats or luggage
that they like pieces that they could find, but they couldn't eat it.
No.
Now it was Nando Perado who first suggested that they consider eating the meat from the
bodies of the dead.
He later said, I didn't have any doubts.
I had arrived at the conclusion of my thoughts very clearly.
No doubt.
This is the only way out.
I mean, what else are you going to eat? I get it to eat? And if you're determined to survive at that point?
There is no part of my dumb ass that's going to sit here and say to you that after weeks,
after a fucking plane crash that I survived on the fucking Andes,
that I'm not going to think about eating a dead body. I'm not going to sit here
with any kind of fucking like that.
And it's also like you're kind of in the perfect equation because they're not
only they're preserved because of the snow.
And what do you, what do you, what do you do at this point?
Like I get it. I got what they do. It's totally fine if, you know, if you don't.
But yeah, I just can't presume to say that I would die. Oh,
I would certainly not do that. Like I don't fucking know. I hope I never have to know that.
None of us know because we weren't there and we haven't been like,
Sounds like an awful experience. Yeah. The worst kind of experience I can
possibly conjure and can't even in my brain. And think of the hungriest you've ever been.
And then multiply that by six gajillion.
Literally.
Like, no, you have to eat.
You're going to lose your fucking mind otherwise.
Exactly. And like you said, they had not begun to decompose because they were laying out.
And other than, you know, there being quite a strong social taboo around cannibalism,
there was really no other argument that everybody had.
Like everybody was like, that's really, it's all really just like ethical kind of thing,
like moral stuff. Which would be hard, I'm sure, to get through.
Of course, I can't even fathom this discussion. To find yourself in that situation.
Can't even fathom this discussion, but I get why it got brought up. And again, not a lot of, and this decision was not made
lightly either. Like these people did not just go like, oh shit, why don't we need our
friends? That's not what they did.
It's everybody's family members and friends.
They did not come to this as just like, whatever, we might as well. Like this is desperation.
And self-preservation.
And Roberto Canessa led the discussion and he very much argued his point from his position as a
medical student. He said to them, it is meat, that's all it is. The souls have left their bodies,
are in heaven with God. All that is left here are the carcasses, which are no more human beings than
the dead flesh of the cattle we eat at home. I mean, I get it.
And I mean, he's just coming from like a very clinical,
logical point of view and being like, these are not your loved ones.
Yeah.
Your loved ones aren't in these shells anymore.
Right.
Now, once the suggestion was raised to the rest of the survivors, the group
spent nearly an entire day discussing it amongst themselves before doing anything.
And then finally, after several, several hours,
all remaining survivors agreed that they had little choice, other choice if they wanted to live.
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this episode and our good times. In the years after the rescue, again, like I said before,
this aspect of the story dominated the narrative. And it overshadowed nearly
every other part of their ordeal. Of course. Which again, I know it's shocking. I'm shocked
by it. I'm fascinated by it. Like, of course, that's the one part where you go, oh, but holy
shit, there's so many other things that they did for each other and to survive this. That is like,
and to survive this, that is also unbelievably, incredibly,
like, outside of my realm of comprehension. But it was the key to their survival at this point.
And it was, again, only a small part of the story,
this story that has so many other things
that definitely need to be known for sure.
Pirato later said, everybody in that situation, you would have arrived at the same thought
and it's easier than you think.
Yeah.
Because he's probably like, when you're that hungry.
That's the thing.
I'm just thinking, like I said, of the hungriest I've ever been and then multiplying it to
like the nth degree.
Think of that stomach ache you get when you are hungry.
And it hurts, like it feels, you feel empty.
So they all also made a pact with each other
that should any of them die before being rescued,
their bodies were to be used as food
to help the other survive.
Wow.
So they all made a fucking pact with each other
that if I don't survive this, you're gonna survive it
because you're gonna use my meat.
Wow.
What a sentence.
My brain, like won't, I just can't fathom. It's the ultimate
selflessness. Having that discussion, it is like and it's just like and to have to have that
discussion and to know if you die out here you're going to be eaten. Yeah. Like you're not going to
be eaten. The only thing that would hopefully comfort you in any sense of the word, if you were
dying in that sense is like, I'm going to keep my friends alive.
I'm going to give them a hope.
And in a weird way, it's not even like, I'm.
Yeah, it's like, I agree with what you said.
This vessel that I'm walking around in will at least be used to hopefully get them out
of here.
Yeah.
Like that's like weird.
I don't know. It's. Like that's like weird.
I don't, it's just, that's wild.
It's some kind of logic, you know?
And I agree, like believe whatever you want,
but when you're gone, you're gone.
Yeah, I mean, that's what I believe.
It's not your body anymore.
Yeah, it's just like, there's something else there.
So it's like, yeah.
But again, what a-
Hard to fathom.
What a wildly difficult conversation to navigate.
Yeah.
That they must have had.
But you know, they'd already gotten through the worst.
They had. Now after they'd come to an agreement, and it was...
Everybody came to the agreement, a small group of the young men left the fuselage
and walked to the area where they had put the bodies of the dead.
Oh.
And they...
That must have been...
Oh.
Heavy.
They said they were all wildly uncomfortable, obviously.
Of course.
Wildly upset, but they just knew what they had to do.
But none of them walked out there being like, cool, we're going to go eat our friends.
They were all horrifically traumatized by this.
But they reasoned that, and this is a quote, God wanted them to live and he had given them the
means to do so in the dead bodies of their friends. It would be wrong now to reject this gift of life
because they were a little too squeamish. Okay. It was decided that Canessa, because he was a
medical student, was probably the most appropriate person to cut the bodies because they didn't want
to mutilate the bodies of their friends either. either. And so they used a piece of broken glass from the plane.
I was wondering what they ended up using.
And he cut pieces of frozen flesh into 20 strips and laid them out on the roof of the
plane to dry in the sun. And then he went back inside and let them all know, it's up there.
If you want to eat it, eat it.
Okay.
It's there.
All right.
Despite all of them being in the most profound state of hunger that you can
possibly even conjure in your imagination, none of them made a move to get it.
You would not want to be the first person to make that move.
No, that's the thing.
But Kanessa himself said he was going to try to set an example, try to make them
all feel better about the whole thing.
Cause he knew they were all starving.
He's like, you're starving and you're gonna, I'll be the one to start the whole thing.
And he went out and he got a piece from the roof and you know, he was the one
that just a few hours earlier was like convincingly arguing that it was no
different from the meat of the cattle back at home that they were accustomed to eating.
But it is cause it's you.
But he found himself like pretty much paralyzed when it came to actually eating the meat,
and he had to force himself to bring his hand up and shove it into his mouth. Decades later,
Ramon Sabella would recall this whole experience the same way. He said,
of course, the idea of eating human flesh was terrible, repugnant. It was hard to put in your
mouth, but we got used to it.
So none of them were like, yeah, it was great.
Like, thanks, thanks a bunch of friends.
Like they're all, they're like,
it was the fucking worst experience of my life.
Yeah, duh.
And it's true, the food actually,
and it's like remarkably nourishing, this sustenance.
So it has a lot of, you know,
we're full of vitamins and nutrients. So it's
like this was, and it's meat. Yeah. It's got a lot to your protein. So for the first time, since the
crash, several of these young men started feeling like, okay, I'm getting my strength back. Like
I'm feeling like I can get through this. And because they were feeling physically stronger,
their resolve was getting more strong. After a couple of weeks in the mountains, they had actually kind of acclimated to their surroundings a little bit, and they started to learn things they should do, things they
shouldn't do.
Parado said, we started to acclimate, you start to learn.
I started to learn how to walk in the snow properly.
On day 12, a small group managed to climb several miles up the mountain, actually.
Wow.
Hoping that up there, they would be able to maybe spot some civilization in one direction
or another, but every time they thought they were reaching the top of the peak, they would
find another higher peak just above them.
Oh God.
And they couldn't see anything through it.
But it was on this track that when they reached an outcropping of rock finally that had broken
through the snow, that they found one of the plane's wings.
And it was twisted, scattered across the snow, and with it, they found five of their former
traveling companions.
Oh, God.
Gaston Costamale, Alexis Houny, Guido Magri, Joaquin Ramirez, and Ramon Martinez.
That must have been awful.
Yeah.
They were preserved as well because of the freezing temperatures, but their faces were black,
which suggested that they had been burned by the engines or the fuel when they were
ripped out of the plane.
Oh my God.
Now, although they had discovered more of the wreckage and the missing bodies of their friends,
they didn't really come out of the mountains with anything
else.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, they hadn't managed to gain any more insight into their location.
They hadn't found anything useful in the wreckage that they had found.
And most importantly, they were now exhausted.
Yeah, literally trucking up a mountainside.
And they said if they thought they were going to be hiking out of these mountains to go
get help, that short excursion proved that that was going to be a lot more difficult than they
thought, maybe impossible.
Now, by October 29th, the survivors had fallen into kind of like a routine at this point.
They were keeping a schedule.
You have to.
They were maintaining order.
It was like a little village.
It's like survivor.
Yeah.
And that day, October 29th, they had broken into smaller groups and spent the morning
cleaning the fuselage, cutting and drying meat, melting snow. And those who were still
too weak were, you know, resting in hammock beds that they'd created from materials.
And for most of the day, it was unusually calm. But then later, the sky started getting darker and this like wicked cold wind started
whipping through. And everyone, it was too cold for everyone to be outside. So they got
into the fuselage altogether and they spent the rest of the night just telling stories,
trying to keep warm, chatting with each other about family, about what they're going to
do when they get out of here. And then one by one, they drifted off to sleep. Now, Roy Harley was laying awake on the floor,
squeezed between Javier Methel and Carlitos Páez
when he felt this like weird vibration
run through the floor of the plane.
And just seconds later, he heard what he described
as the sound of metal falling to the ground.
And he jumped up to see what was happening
and he had a t-shirt covering his face
like to try to get away from the wind.
But he'd only just stood up when he was hit
by a wall of snow that buried him to his waist
and nearly knocked him to the ground.
Was it an avalanche?
When he pulled his shirt away from his face,
he was horrified to see that the plane was just hit
by a fucking avalanche,
and the entire fuselage was filled with snow, densely packed snow.
It had knocked down all of the walls that they had built up,
and it had buried everyone who had been laying on the floor.
LWJ So not only did these people survive the wildest plane crash of all time,
but now they've been hit by a motherfucking avalanche.
And all the shit that they have spent weeks and weeks building
to keep themselves together, gone.
And all of their bodies, which is their food source,
is now buried under how much snow?
Oh my God.
So Roy...
You must question absolutely everything.
Like how do you go after the avalanche? I'm like, how? How did you get the will? Cause
that would have been, I don't know how mentally I would have been able to get myself out of
that. No. So Roy is frantic. He starts digging down into the snow to get any of his friends
and manages to uncover Carlito's face
But the snow was packed too densely and he wasn't able to free any more of his body just his face
He knew there were others so he left Carlito's where he was and started furiously digging around and he kept seeing hands pop up
So he's digging around the hands and he managed to first free Roberto Canessa
the hands and he managed to first free Roberto Canessa, who immediately started digging to free others. And one by one, they dug each other out of the snow, which had begun to settle and was now
forming a sheet of ice across the surface. Oh my God. Nando Perato had also been laying on the
floor alongside several others and was completely buried when the avalanche hit. He later said, which
goodness, I couldn't move. I was under rubble, but I could breathe. And he said he laid buried
in the snow for 30 minutes and he would take shallow breaths to try to keep from suffocating.
How do you not hyperventilate?
I have no idea. I would absolutely, without a doubt, hyperventilate.
Yeah. And he said, after the 30 minutes, he said he just kind of like accepted that he was going to
die buried in snow. And then someone started scraping the ice and snow away from his face
and hauled him out of the snow. Even I feel like I can't breathe just hearing this.
Yeah. And they just didn't give up on each other.
No. These people must have been lifelong friends after this.
Literally. Yes.
Yes. Spoiler alert. Yes.
They like after ripping each other, being buried in the snow, hit by an avalanche,
by a motherfucking avalanche torn out of the snow.
They all just immediately start digging for the other people.
They're not like taking a second to be like, oh, my God, I just got hit by an avalanche.
They're all just running on crazy adrenaline.
Outside the plane, there's a blizzard raging, by the way.
Inside, they're doing their best just to get everyone out of this fucking snow.
And in filling the plane with densely packed snow, the avalanche also blocked every exit
and they were now trapped in the fuselage.
No.
Yep.
Buried to their waists in freezing snow. Oh my, how
did they not get hypothermia? I have no idea. And so, I mean, some of them most certainly
did, but- Yeah, of course. And they didn't know whether the weight of the snow on the
top of the fuselage was enough to crush them. They had no idea how much snow was on top
of them. Oh my God. Prado later said, we didn't know if we had enough air.
We didn't know if we had two meters, four meters,
or 50 meters of snow on top of us.
Oh, my God.
They had no idea.
And equally bad was the realization
that not everyone had made it through the avalanche.
Yeah.
Some had been completely buried by the compact snow,
and others had been crushed by the falling debris
from the makeshift wall.
Oh. Like, can you imagine?
No.
No.
No.
Of the 27 survivors who laid down to sleep that night, eight died in the avalanche.
Wow.
Wow.
Those killed were Carlos Roque, Daniel Maspons, Juan Carlos Menendez, Liliana Methel,
Gustavo Nicolich, Marcelo Perez, Enrique Platero, and Diego
Storm were all killed in the avalanche.
That's so sad.
Now, a few hours later, a second avalanche struck.
No.
No.
Yeah.
But the only good thing was that they had already been buried by the first one, so it
just kind of rolled over the already buried plane.
Once it felt safe enough to move
without triggering another avalanche,
Nando used a cargo pole to punch a large hole
through the roof of the plane,
which allowed fresh air to enter through.
But while it was keeping them from being suffocated,
you know, suffocated by this, they were still buried. And even was keeping them from being suffocated, you know, suffocated by this.
They were still buried.
Yeah.
Like, and even if they could get out of the plane, the blizzard conditions outside were
going to kill them.
Right.
Like, what do you do?
I have no idea.
The group spent four days buried in that plane.
Just waiting for the blizzard to pass.
Four days.
Stop it.
Yeah.
At night, they slept in just like a tangle with each other.
Again, punching each other's arms and legs to try to keep circulation up.
On the fourth day, when they were finally able to emerge from the plane,
they forced themselves into the cockpit and squeezed past the bodies of the
pilot and co-pilot who are still there.
And then they spent hours working in 15 minute shifts to dig out and
exit through the broken windshield of the cockpit. Oh my god. Yeah. They managed to drag some of the
bodies out through the tunnel they'd created, but those that were buried too deeply in the dense snow
were just left where they died. In the week that followed, they worked tirelessly to clear out some
of the snow so they would at least have like some protection from the elements, but much of the interior was too densely packed
with snow.
They couldn't even move it.
Wow.
With what little resources they had, now obliterated by an avalanche, and their shelter seriously
compromised, there were now 19 survivors and they had to make a fucking
decision at this point. They were like, what do we do? We can't stay here. If they were
going to make it out of here alive, they were going to have to walk out. So in the earliest
days after the crash, several of the survivors started talking about walking out of the mountains
for help. Of course, that was always on everyone's mind. The problem of course, was that they
didn't have any equipment.
They didn't have any training necessary to make that kind of trek.
And they're on the side of a fucking mountain.
And also, they have no fucking idea where they are or what direction civilization is.
So they would take short hikes out of the valley just to see, like we talked about before.
But again, those would only emphasize how unprepared they were to take such a trek.
Right. about before, but again, those would only emphasize how unprepared they were to take such a trek.
Right.
So once the danger of the future avalanches and snowdrifts was here, they decided the
only way out was for them to hike out.
So three of the strongest members of the remaining survivors, Peratto, Canessa, and Antonia Vizenton,
volunteered to make the trip.
And they started immediately preparing.
They weren't just going to go straight out. They were going to prepare for it. Now, this kind of journey would have been hard
for the most experienced mountaineer to do. And even then they would have been outfitted with like
everything that you need, specialized climbing and hiking equipment, all the things you need.
Food.
Yeah.
Water.
And among all of this, they were also complete. These people are also completely unfamiliar with hiking equipment, all the things you need. Food. Yeah. Water.
And among all of this, they were also complete.
These people are also completely unfamiliar
with the terrain outside the valley.
So they were at huge risk for falling into hidden valleys
and random crevasses in the earth,
slipping off an ice plane, becoming buried in a snowdrift.
There's like any host of dangers out there. And also they would have to do
a certain amount of climbing over icy and rocky terrain, all of which they would have to do without
climbing shoes, ice axes, any safety equipment, ropes. All I can do right now is think of the
beginning of this episode when I was like, I woke up early and took a walk on my treadmill.
Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
These people are like, I survived a plane crash, two avalanches and hiked outside of mountains
that I don't even know where they were. Yeah. With no equipment.
And I complained about like waking up early. But you know what? If this isn't motivation to get
the fuck up and do some stuff you've been meaning to do. My damn.
Here you go. Yeah.
up and do some stuff you've been meaning to do. My damn. Yeah. Perotto said, I knew that when I gave the first step to leave the fuselage, I was not coming back. This is a kamikaze expedition.
I mean, yeah. So the three men spent weeks preparing for this, gathering whatever supplies
they could find. They made sleeping bags from sewn together cushions and fabric. How did you,
how'd they even sew anything together?
No idea. I think it was like hand tied kind of shit.
Damn.
And they made a sled crafted out of suitcases that like pieces of suitcases that they had.
Cause they, I think they didn't have like, maybe they had like one or two pieces of luggage,
but they did not. They missed, they're missing quite a bit of luggage.
Yeah.
They also spent the days consuming large amounts of fat and meat to try to like build up strength.
Yeah.
They took short trips into the surrounding mountains,
like trying to see how they could build up their strength.
And on one of those trips,
they found the wreckage of the tail,
the plane's tail and all of the fucking luggage.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's good. They found the luggage.
To them, this was like a fucking gold mine.
The ultimate sign to keep going.
They got dry clothes, chocolate candies,
a ski kit with poles they could use for the fucking hike.
Wow.
Tell me they weren't meant to find that shit.
Dude, that just makes you believe
that the universe fucking works for you. Skeek a skeek it with a pulse. That is so, it's the secret.
That's wild. It's like purest form. They said we're getting out of here. We're going to figure it out.
We're going to build up our stamina. And they were not, it didn't sound like they were negative in
any way whatsoever. And they, all the shit they needed, not all the shit, but like most of the shit
they needed came to them.
And it's like, you know, there were times of deep despair and deep hopelessness
here. I can't, the likes of which probably most of us can never even
understand or fathom or conjure in our minds.
No.
But I think that like, what was important here was that they didn't let it consume them.
They just said, we're getting out of here.
We're going to figure out how to get out of here.
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weren't just like, let's give it our best shot.
They were like, oh no fuckers, we're getting the fuck out of here.
We're going to make sure we are prepared and out of here.
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It's wild.
They also in the luggage, they found a bottle of rum.
You needed it at that point.
Many cartons of cigarettes.
Nice.
Bottles of Coca-Cola, which-
Oh, holy shit.
A crisp Coke after two avalanches.
Imagine a crisp-
Oh my God. I can't imagine how good those Cokes tasted.
But also you have to go so slow.
Yeah, you can't just-
Your body's not used to it.
Yeah, oh my God. They also found a crate of moldy sandwiches,
which at that point, eat away.
Let's go.
That night, they camped at the site
eating a pretty large meal.
They had a feast that night.
And finishing it off with a dessert, they called it,
which was a paste made of sugar, toothpaste, and rum.
Oh God.
Which, you know. That's so bleak. Oh, God. Which, you know, so bleak.
They're hungry. But this time, unfortunately, was not one just of hope and just of good things.
There was more tragedy to come. Two weeks after the avalanche, one of the survivors, Arturo Noguera,
had become sick and started getting weaker as the days passed. He became delirious and eventually
fell into a coma and died on November 15th. Imagine, like he got so far.
You get that far. That's awful.
Noguera's death was followed a few days later by Rafael Ekevarin, who died from an infection in
his leg. A few weeks after Ekevarin passed, Numa Turkati died in his sleep from sepsis.
after Ekavarin passed, Numa Turkadi died in his sleep from sepsis. So it was like really
one after the other. And to get that barn to survive the crash, survive two avalanches, and then have that be the case. Like that's awful. Now, by the time that Turkadi had passed,
the group had been stranded in the Andes for 61 days. 61 days. And it was clear to the three
volunteers that the longer they waited, the more likely it
was that people were going to die.
So on the morning of December 12th, Peratto, Canessa and Visinton left the valley headed
to the west where they believed they would find help.
Before leaving, they dressed in several layers of clothing because again, they had found
those fucking luggage things. And even fashioned socks made of human skin.
They did this because they felt like it would keep their feet from getting soaked
with water, which would put them at risk for frostbite.
Yeah.
Pretty smart.
Very macabre.
Rough.
Very smart.
Morbid.
Within a few days of hiking, it became clear to the three on the trip that
this was going to be a lot harder than they thought it would be. And they thought it was going to be pretty fucking hard. There were several sheer ice cliffs and rock walls to climb,
all again with no equipment or experience. On the second night, Knessa and Peratto suggested it
might be better if Visinton returned to the plane because they said it would give them more food rations
and increase the likelihood of getting help.
Okay.
They were like, maybe we shouldn't have all three of us out here.
So Visinton agreed.
He was like, you know what?
Yeah.
So he began the trek back to the plane while they continued west.
Imagine doing that all by yourself.
No.
For nearly a week, Knessa and Peratto hiked and climbed through the fucking Andes.
At times climbing nearly a thousand feet in one day. Holy shit. That is twice the recommended daily climb
for an experienced hiker. That's insane. That just shows you how absolutely fucking determined
they were. They also were going through several bouts of altitude sickness, which is fucking awful. If you've ever been altitude sick, oh, oh.
Now on multiple occasions, they were deceived too
by what looked like a short distance
between one location and another,
only to have it suddenly stretch out for miles and miles.
Early in their trip, they spent days
climbing thousands of feet up the mountain too,
to just look on the other side
and find it completely impassable. So to have to go all the way back down.
That's horrific. Now after about a week of walking the pair began to notice the
environment around them started changing a little. Okay. The once frozen terrain
started to soften and then all of a sudden they started seeing signs of
fucking life. I can't even imagine what that would feel like. They saw an old
campfire. That
would be euphoric. Animal manure. Stop it. Eventually they saw some cows. Dude, I would cry. I would cry
on those cows. Finally on December 20th, Knessa and Perato reached a river and began following it
until they saw the smoke from a campfire across the river. When Knessa, then Knessa spotted two men by the fire, one standing,
the other on a horse, too weak to walk. He just yelled for Perato who ran to the edge
of the water and immediately they were trying to catch the men's attention, urging them
to come to the edge of the water, which the man did. And then, but the noise of the rushing
river made it impossible for them to hear each other. Stop it. So the man across the way pulled out a piece of paper and wrote a message.
And then he wrapped it around a rock and tossed it to the other side.
Just the where with all of these people.
I always say people are going to people. Here's another reason. People are people.
But like, but in the good way, people are peopleing.
Nando grabbed the rock and unwrapped the note and it
read, there is a man coming later that I told him to go, tell me what you want. And in response,
Nando sat down and wrote this note, I come from a plane that fell in the mountains. I'm Uruguayan.
We have been walking for 10 days. I have a friend up there who is injured. In the plane,
there are still 14 injured people.
We have to get out of here quickly and we don't know how. We don't have any food. We
are weak. When are you coming to fetch us? Please, we can't even walk. Where are we?"
Now before sending the note back over the river, he took out a tube of red lipstick
that he had in his pocket from the luggage and wrote S.O.S. on the bottom of the note.
And then he threw it back to him.
The man read the note slowly, then looked up at Nando and indicated that he
understood. Then he took a large chunk of bread from his bag and tossed it to them.
People gonna motherfuckin people.
Oh my God. Can you imagine what that bread.
This is what we needed to hear for like in the beginning of the year.
Yes, truly.
We didn't need another hopeless story of people being fucking terrible to each other. We needed this. This is the energy to bring into 2025.
Imagine what that bread must have tasted like. Oh my God. Wow. I can't even fathom. Wow.
I say I know I've said that a lot. I can't fathoming is not something I've said. Wow.
I've said remarkables and we're all using the same adjectives. And it was before he left to get help, he was like, here's some bread, please eat.
Nando rushed back to Canessa and they shared their food and news that after 69 days in the
mountain, they were going to be saved. Now it turned out that the man on the other side of the
river was a local farmer named Sergio Catalan. He lived high in the mountains. And after
discovering Prado and Canessa by the river, he himself traveled 10 hours by mule to the
nearest police station to get them help.
10 hours by mule.
By mule himself.
And they must have been losing some kind of help, a hope at that point.
Like not knowing if he's going to come back.
Because then it's like, I'm assuming 10 hours back. Well, and then they, a few hours after he left,
they were discovered by another man on horseback who gave
them more food and water.
Then carefully he loaded them onto the back of his horse and
brought them to his hut.
Oh my God.
Where he shared some cheese and gave them a place to lay
down and rest.
Oh.
People, people.
People.
People angeling. Right? Pering. People, people angeling.
Right?
Pirato said Roberto was very weak.
He gave everything that he had.
Everybody gave everything that they had.
Over the course of 10 days, the two men had traveled 37 miles.
Oh my god.
Under some of the most intense and bad conditions
that you can imagine.
Climbing hundreds of feet every single day.
And in fact, years later, when they discussed the trip with mountaineering experts, they were told
that they quote, achieved what they did because of their ignorance. Had you known what you were
going to face, you would have never left the airplane. You never knew what you were going
to face. And that's why you made it. So they're literally like, had you known, no way you would
have made that out. But because you went in there completely ignorant and just said, we're getting out,
you did it. The next day, a helicopter arrived in the village and Canessa and Parado were presented
with maps and asked to point where the plane had crashed. But they indicated where the plane was
and their rescuers were like, no, that's nearly 80 miles away in Argentina.
Like, what are you talking about? It couldn't possibly be where it was. So Nando was like,
do you want me to get in the fucking helicopter and go show you? Despite everything that he had been
through in a fucking aircraft, he was like, I'll get in the helicopter. The fact that that didn't
even register in my brain after everything these people have been through, this guy offers to get in a helicopter.
Nando was like, I'll get in the helicopter so we can go get my friends because like I
need to get you to them.
Wow.
Like they're safe.
He's getting in there to get the rest of them.
Yeah.
He's like, I can't let you not get them.
Yeah.
So I'm going to get in here.
That's insane.
Despite what I've been through in the fucking air.
That's a fucking king right there.
If he wanted to, he would. He would. king right there. If he wanted to, he would.
He would, and he did.
If he wanted to, he would.
And he did.
Damn.
And what he said about it later when they finally got to the crash site, he said, three
of my friends jumped over me like dogs, kissing me and shouting.
It was a very surreal and emotional scene.
It was their first spark of being alive again.
Wow.
The helicopter couldn't accommodate everyone all at once, so they had to leave a few survivors
at the site and come back for them after the first group, which must have been the scariest
because you're just like, please come back for me.
Eventually they did manage to rescue all 16 survivors who were taken to the hospital that
were at the site, taken to the hospital in San Fernando, Chile,
where they were treated for various injuries
and severe malnutrition.
But the news of the rescue came as an absolute shock
to everyone, particularly the families of the survivors.
Who had grieved them.
Oh, you must have just thought your family member
was dead.
They were grieving them.
It's been two months.
Yeah.
Even more surprising was the fact that according
to their doctors, their survivors were deemed
to be, despite all that what they went through, in surprisingly good condition.
Wow.
Despite what they had been through, like, you know, relatively.
Like you said, we're full of vitamins and nutrients.
But although they had lost a significant amount of weight.
Now at first, the group appears to, in the beginning, they look like they kind of like
minimize their ordeal to the press.
They did?
Like the survivors?
Yeah, they were all just like, you know what, it's fine.
So Roberto Canessa told a reporter, after the crash, I looked to one side and there
was my friend Fernando.
I asked him if he was all right and he said yes.
He said he only had some bruises.
Wow.
The truth of what happened?
Prado was unconscious for several days and had sustained
a head injury. But he was just like, ah, you know, my friend was fine. Like, let's move
on. Like he was just like, I don't need to talk about it.
Because it probably didn't sink in for all of them. Well, instead, none of them wanted
to focus on like the tragedy of the whole thing. Instead, they wanted to focus on their
survival instincts. Like, they were just like, we got out of there.
Like that's what matters here.
Like none of them wanted like pity.
None of them wanted any of that.
They were like, we got together, we stayed together.
We worked together and we stayed alive together.
And they probably were like, we're out of there now.
And we don't really want to think about it that much again.
Well, and I think they were literally like,
what you need to know is that we worked as a team and because we cared about our fellow human.
That's why we're here.
We are.
And Canessa said all who could do so worked.
The others prayed, but we all kept our faith.
Wow.
And again, who knows why they chose to like minimize the extent of the trauma and injuries they sustained.
minimize the extent of the trauma and injuries they sustained. But the most glaring, you know,
thing that was left out of their story, obviously, was how they had managed to avoid starvation. Yeah.
The press noted that they had melted snow to avoid dehydration and, you know, managed to avoid
starvation by rationing, you know, what food was left on the plane. And I understand why they
wanted to leave this part out of the thing. Yeah.
You know, like why that's not what should be focused on here.
But within a few days Chilean officials had leaked the real explanation for how the survivors had stayed alive.
So unnecessary.
Yeah. And the press of course sees the story.
Oh yeah. It's salacious.
The report said, police sources said that after the food aboard the plane ran out,
the exhausted survivors ate one body every five days.
And other sources told journalists the rescuers quote,
found six cut up human bodies at the crash site, which is like, yeah, that's true.
That is what happened. And of course, reporting on it would be priority.
That's a very fascinating and horrifying part of it.
Because obviously cannibalism has been the subject of like horror and also fascination
to the public for literal centuries.
So like you understand why this is like a massive part of this.
And obviously it's like one of the biggest taboos you can conjure.
Of course.
And again, they had good reason to keep that to themselves because of that.
In Alive, which again is the book that you guys should
definitely read by Piers Paul Reed, he said they thought they would be stoned in the streets.
They were scared. But fortunately, while understandable that feeling, they were wrong.
That's not what they received. They still claim they had a significant amount of food on board
the plane. One survivor said that they thought they could survive claim they had a significant amount of food on board the plane.
One survivor said that they thought they could survive if they rationed for another few weeks.
But the reality of their surviving on chocolate and other snacks for two months was just not
reality. In the end, most people understood that under the circumstances, they had no
other choice but to resort to eating meat. Yes. In his speeches about the experience,
Ramon Sabella always asks the audience,
would any of you not have done the same thing?
And he has yet to have anyone raise their hand.
Yeah, that would be such a fucking dick move.
Imagine looking at that man and being like,
nah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't, you know somebody would.
Fuck off.
In the years that followed,
the survivor's story became honestly like a beacon of hope
and like the ability to triumph
over the most extreme circumstances
and challenges you can imagine.
In 1974, Reed's book about the experience alive,
the stories of the Andy survivors was released,
much acclaimed, to this day, people know that
book. And this is a kind of like reignited the interest in learning more about this story
and what they went through. Oh, yeah. Outside of just the cannibalism kind of thing. Right.
Canessa said of the whole like fame that came with this story, he said, there's a difference
in how you feel you are and how others see you. And he said he was surprised at how little judgment
they had received for their actions. And he was also kind of shocked by the attention they were
getting for surviving the whole thing, which I was like, dude, like you, the fact that you don't know
what you've done. Now in the decades since the crash, the survivors have all gone on to live
very productive lives. None of them want to waste
their good fortune. All of them looked at it as like, this is a gift and I need not waste it.
Nando Parada became a motivational speaker and has written a book and several articles
about the whole thing. Kanessa went on to finish medical school. Yes. Yep. And became a pediatric cardiologist.
Wow.
Yeah.
He also has written and spoken extensively
about the whole ordeal in the Andes.
Many of the others have chosen to keep their lives
a little more private.
Yeah, I could totally get that.
They don't think they're kind of,
they're doing the damn thing,
but they're like, yep, I did it.
But they've all gone to find success
in whatever they've done.
And every year, the remaining survivors get together
on the anniversary of the crash,
and they all gather in the salon
that Roberto Canessa has built onto his home
specifically for the purpose of this yearly meeting.
Shut the fuck up.
And I have never been happier to hear something like that.
I was like, fuck yeah, you do.
I love that.
Like that's a bond that no one other than those 14,
14 to 16 people could ever understand.
I'm just, I can't imagine.
Like imagine being in that room.
Like that feeling in that room must be insane.
And reminiscing.
Like remember when you breathed your hot breath
onto me to keep me alive?
Yeah, it kept me alive and like punched my leg
to keep circulation until you were too exhausted.
My God.
And just the trauma that they all share.
Oh my God, the trauma bond is beyond.
But like just, and the fact that Roberto Canessa
has like one gone on to become a pediatric cardiologist. Beyond. But like just, and the fact that Roberto Canessa has like one gone on to become a pediatric
cardiologist.
Incredible.
When he was in medical school during that, like good for him.
Yes.
And then like built this specific little thing onto his home so that they can have their
meetings every year.
I love that.
Like shut the fuck up.
That's beautiful.
It is.
It's so beautiful.
That is one of the gnarliest stories I've ever heard in my life.
Most tragic, but most inspiring and like uplifting in the end.
And I had heard of that one. And of course, I mainly just heard that like they ate each
other to stay alive. But wow, I did not know the details.
It is such an, it is just an incredible story.
A plane crash and two motherfucking avalanches in the middle of absolutely nowhere.
Yep.
Wow.
And then the guy throwing them the bread.
Oh my God, that's the thing.
You look at the pictures.
Oh yeah.
That they have from the crash site and everything.
It's unbelievable.
Crazy.
Truly unbelievable.
Wow.
Yeah. Well, new's unbelievable. Crazy. Truly unbelievable. Wow. Yeah.
Well, new year, new us.
We're about to tackle everything we ever dreamed of.
If that doesn't inspire you to do whatever the fuck it is that you were thinking about
doing or changing or fixing or getting better at or releasing from your life, do it.
I'm going home to play my fucking electric keyboard.
I'm going to figure that shit out. Hell yeah. If those people can figure out how to fucking hike
thousands of miles out of a valley in the middle of the Andes, I can learn the G chords.
Fuck yeah, you can. Let's go brother. Fuck yeah, you can. Wow. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. I
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I can't even speak at this point.
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