Morbid - Episode 690: Paris catacombs, haunted accordions and more with Josh Homme

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Join us for a chat with Queens of the Stone Age frontman Josh Homme! We talk paranormal experiences, his new project: Alive in the Catacombs and top it all off with a Paris Catacombs themed Would You Rather? Thanks so much to our new pal JHo for a solid hang🤘🏻Looking to watch Alive in the Catacombs? Find it by visiting https://qotsa.com/And don't forget to check out Josh's charity The Sweet Stuff Foundation: an organization that provides assistance to musicians and their families in times of need. Learn more or donate by visiting https://www.thesweetstufffoundation.org/Stay in the know - wondery.fm/morbid-wondery.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I did not expect that. This is morbid. And this is morbid. It's different from Dr. Phil, you know, very different. Just barely, we're both not doctors. So he's going to be joining us in a second. Dr. Joshua. Dr. Joshua. We have Josh Homme today on the show.

Josh is a musician, singer-songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, and frontman of a little band called Queens of the Stone Age. We are so fucking excited to have Josh on today. This is going to be so much fun. It really is. And he's got something pretty cool that he just did. On Friday the 13th of June, he released Queens of the Stone Age, Alive in the Catacombs, which is this like super intimate, totally unplugged performance that's in the actual

Paris catacombs. They are the first band to legally perform in the Paris catacombs. Absolutely insane. It's what and it's incredible. It's beautiful the way they did it. It's super like they really like honored the space for sure. Like in a big way. It's got gorgeous cinematography. It's such like haunting

performances and it's just kind of him like walking around singing and they have like this like the string instruments and the red like it's very calm and like just really beautiful. There's also a behind the scenes little doc too which is really cool. Yeah and it's really interesting and they do it in like a black and white thing, which like just gives it like a warmer, like, I don't know, it feels right. I know it's weird because it's black and white and then you're like, it's warmer, but it is, it makes sense. Something about it is like super cozy and like just like, ooh.

I think it's the catacombs. Yeah, I think it might be, but we'll include a link in our show notes to order both the performances as well as that behind-the-scenes Look at it. It's I'm telling you it's so worth it Yeah, you got to check it out and before we talk to Josh before we get him on here We wanted to give you guys a quick very quick look at the Paris Catacombs I we are going to revisit the Paris Catacombs in a different episode We're gonna do like a true deep dive into it.

Not literally. I was going to say that's pun intended, I guess. But right now we will be the second band allowed to perform there legally. I wanted to give you just like a quick look at it, just so you when we're talking about it, you know a little bit behind the scenes. So the Paris Catacombs, it's a network of tunnels 80 feet below the streets of Paris. It's filled with the remains of around six million people.

Six million, which is three times the population of Paris alone, which is just, my brain can't comprehend that. I can't even picture like 48 people, nevermind six fucking million. Yeah. And there's like two, there's more than 200 miles of tunnels under here.

And only, there's only a portion of them that are mapped out. I think it's like maybe up to 200 miles that is officially mapped out. But there's tons more that isn't. It's wild. And there's only like a mile of it that's really legally available to the public. You get a ticket, they take you down with a guide.

We recommend that that's how you do it. It's the safest way to do it. Of course, there's illegal ways to get in all over the city, but that can be very, very dangerous. And we never encourage you to break the law. Yeah, and we don't encourage you to do something that's going to like, get you hurt. Or someone else.

We like you too much. We do. We love you. So there's also this really funny like name. It's not funny, but it's just like cute. No, it's kind of, it's like a fun, cute name. Yeah. It's cataphiles are what they're called. And it's people who are really dedicated to exploring the catacombs.

And they've done like a lot to map out these hidden places. are what they're called. And it's people who are really dedicated to exploring the catacombs. And they've done like a lot to map out these hidden places. Like they're very dedicated to it, and they know everything about it. They found, you know, hidden little like swimming pools, which like you don't want to swim in stagnant water. They found ritualistic setups down there. That is scary. The way that you went from like swimming pools to ritualistic setups. That's upsetting. There's hidden tunnels, strange drawings, like art down there. I mean, it's a wild world down in the catacombs. It's bonkers. And you might be like, Whoa, that sounds really cool. Like, awesome. Where did they come from? Like, why are they there? Why does that exist? Well, I'm gonna tell you.

Cause it originates in the 12th century. So a little bit ago. Long, long, long, long, long time ago. So they were excavating quarries, like lime mines essentially below Paris. They were like taking out the limestone to be used in, you know, building the city's defenses, all that kind of stuff.

And they were like, wow, this is really working out great. But what they forgot was like, when they built stuff on top of these now, hollowed out quarries. It wasn't gonna go too well. Yeah, the structural integrity was just not there anymore. So there was a lot of cave-ins during the 18th century that left entire streets of Paris

just plummeting into the depths below. A problem, if you will. Big problem. So in 1777, a little guy named King Louis XVI. I think I've heard of him. Yeah. He was like, how can we make this not awful? How can we make it so people don't plummet to their depths?

Yeah. So he hired an architect and he was like, let's turn these into like galleries, like something that you wanna see, something you wanna visit, like let's capitalize on this essentially. Which makes me wanna learn more about who the fuck he was. Like I know the top of the iceberg about Louie, but I'm like-

About old Louie there? About, you know, Louie. But the fact that that was his go-to and he was like, you know what we could do, we could make a gallery of bones down there. Well, he initially, he wasn't making a gallery of bones. Initially, he was like, let's make this, it's almost, it's not the same,

but it's almost akin to like a Mary King's clothes. Or it's like a city underneath a city almost. But it's like, he wanted it to look like what was above it almost, like kind of thing, like make it a gallery of Paris, like that kind of thing. Oh, and somebody took that to a different place. Because at the same time,

what was happening was graveyards were overflowing with human remains. And when I say overflowing, they were overflowing. So overcrowded that people nearby these graveyards were getting sick off of the fucking gases that were coming out of the decomposing bodies in the ground. Because they were so overcrowded that it was escaping. And these gases were so fucking noxious and we'll get into this when we cover them. Yeah, we're going to town.

So fucking bad that it could spoil milk and rot meat within hours. So people were like getting these gases coming up through their basements and shit. Like it was bad. I bet it was actually green. Oh, that's how I picture it. I picture green gas emitting out of these things. Like cartoonish green gas. And so there was a cave-in at the Holy Innocence Cemetery.

And I mean, that one was wild. They were stacking bodies on top of each other for a long time. It was like thousands of bodies in there. I mean, it was gnarly. Damn. And so this was a problem. When this caved in, everybody was like, yeah, this is not great. They were a little outraged.

Yeah, they were sick of their meat and their milk spoiling. Yeah, so Louis was like, we'll just have the dead moved into the galleries that were built in these abandoned quarries, obviously. What else are we gonna do? Again, I wanna know more about him. I also wanna know that. And so in 1785, they transferred these bodies into the catacombs.

They had like processions of black clothed carriages, there were priests and holy people chanting prayers as it was going on. That's rad. It must've been the gnarliest procession to watch. Like, yeah. Like just knowing that they're just putting these it's like going to a metal concert,

but like a little bit different, like slightly different, you know? And yeah, and so they dedicated a person, like an artist essentially, to arrange the bones in an artful way. And when you look at them now, you can see like they're beautifully arranged. They look like they are part of the structure of the place.

They look like they are art themselves. Like they have been meticulously arranged down there. Gary and Larry fucked it up down there. And don't you worry, you'll hear about Gary and Larry in this episode. Don't you worry. And I mean, fucked it up in the good way. They did. They fucked it up, fucked it up. There's entire... Because you have to understand there's fucking it up. Yeah. Or there's, fuck it up, fuck it up. Exactly. There's like entire pillars that are made of bone. I mean, it's truly, if you watch Alive in the Catacombs,

the Queens of the Stone Age thing, you'll see these in a really beautiful way too, because it showcases it in a really nice way. In fact, they like really, one thing you have to know about this is that they like truly honored the space with this performance. They did.

And there was one point actually in the, in the behind the scenes thing where I think they were taught like somebody, one of the producers or something was talking about putting candles around or fake candles. And Josh actually says he doesn't want candles because he's like, that feels like weirdly ritualistic and like kind of offensive. And I was like, I like that that's the mindset they went into. They're like, that's not what we're doing

here. Like we're not trying to make this spooky. Like that's not the, and they didn't, they didn't make it spooky. They made it like beautiful. Well, and they just, they really just worked with the space. Yeah, they- That was already, you know. They literally honored it. So it's very, I highly recommend it. But each collection down there has a marker saying which cemetery or, you know, grave place,

you know, mass grave basically, that it came, these bodies came from. And in 1809, it opened to the public and people were initially allowed to just fucking roam free. And then they said, that's probably a shit idea. After they lost a few people, they were like, huh, we should probably put a lid on this. So you know, because there was also damages being done.

Like it is really sad. You go down there and there's so much graffiti. People gonna people. Yeah, people gonna people and some like weird fuck shit was happening. People are getting lost, all that stuff. So the government restricted access and now you have to get a ticket. You have to go down with a tour guide and it's only to a certain point. The government government did always they are governments always be government while people people governments government. It's true. They always do be. But that's like your little, just a little taste of the catacombs where, at least where

they come from, what they're about and what you're going to see down there. And now we can bring Josh in and you can have a blast with us. Let's go. Let's go. Well, welcome to the show. Thank you for hanging out with us today. Thank you for having me. I'm really excited. Yeah, this is huge. We're so excited. We have Josh Homme on the show. Thank you for hanging out with us today. Oh, thank you for having me. I'm really excited.

Yeah, that's right. This is huge. We're so excited. We have Josh Homme on the show. I don't know if you know him. He's from this little band. Every once in a while pops up, Queens of the Stone Age. I'm sure our listeners are looking it up right now.

But at the top of the show, we talked a lot about like the catacombs themselves. We talked about the history of the Paris catacombs. I shouldn't say the catacombs because there's more catacombs in the world. Which is wild. I know. They have, there's some under Boston, in fact. I know we gotta go.

We do. Wow, really? They're smaller. You're close. I know. It's just two people. That's it. It literally is, I think it's like 21 people or something. Yeah, it's nothing in comparison you walk in boston like here you go

There you go. Like you saw it get up All right, next who's it? I'm ready. Let's go Uh, but we we did mention, uh your newest really really cool really unique performance, Alive in the Catacombs. We talked about it, we watched it. It was phenomenal. So I couldn't get it. Like, it was beautiful. Honestly, I knew it was going to be beautiful, but I wasn't expecting it to be as moving as it was. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. I appreciate that. That space is so beautiful

and that's sort of existentially beautiful too. Oh yeah. It's not just, you know, it's not just how it looks, it's how it feels and what you, you immediately understand what it took to make it. Yeah, absolutely. There's something really beautiful in the effort it took to make this, you know, the

catacombs. Oh, yeah. And probably so overwhelming too in that moment. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, you immediately, I think it's different because we didn't take a tour. I don't know. The only time I've ever been there is when we played there.

That's shocking. What a first time. Yeah. I'd been working on this for so many years that I swore off going there until I had the first date. Oh, that's so cool. I love that. I love that.

You know, I thought I'm not going to go. I won't go. There's nothing like that feeling. Because then I won't go away, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, that space is so dominating that you immediately start asking yourselves questions. Like, because these, I once saw 28 years later last night.

Oh, I haven't seen that yet. I'm dying to know. And so there's this one moment where all these, there's, you know, a memento mori section in this movie. And Ralph Fiennes' character asked the most, the same questions that I asked when I was in there. It's like, you're looking at these skulls and you're like, these eyes have all seen And Ralph Fiennes' character asked the same questions that I asked when I was in there. It's like, you're looking at these skulls and you're like, these eyes have all seen, you know. These nose have all smelled. These mouths have all spoken words of love and passion and anger and acceptance. And it was just like so overwhelming, you know? That and you look at these bones and you think, this is me, I am this, you know, this is you.

It's really was overwhelming. Existential, I think, is definitely the perfect word for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, it's because I was thinking about that while we were watching it because when you see them all like, first of all, how many there are and then the way they're so artfully arranged, I worked in a morgue for a long time. Like I was an autopsy technician for like five years.

So I, there was many times where I would look down and just be like, wow, like this is a person. This is a whole person. Like the, and it was the same kind of thing where like, we like, you know, we always closed eyes or like put something over their eyes because it just felt like you don't want them watching you while you're doing everything. And every time I know, you're like, don't look at me. Don't look at me.

Don't look at me. Yeah. Yeah. But it's the same kind of thing where you're like, those eyes saw what I'm seeing, like not too long ago. Or you'd see like a tattoo and you'd be like, oh, this person like went to go get a tattoo once or it always like struck me when they would have like painted nails. Because I'd be like, oh, you painted your nails not knowing that that's it.

Just mere moments before. Yeah, right. So it's- It is interesting because everything that's monumental really happens in one second. Yeah, yeah, truly. And there's only before and after. And being present in that one second and being aware in that one second is actually rare when you're, it feels rare to me when your consciousness aligns with what's going

on. Usually so much of life feels like you're playing catch up to a moment that just existed. Truly. Especially with how our lives go now, like everything is so busy, so instant like that. Yeah. And the influence is to take your train, your mind off the moment. Yes. Yeah. Or it's very strange that that distraction is beneficial to big groups of people that own things. Yeah. It's so true. We're all taught to not be in our own head or in our own thoughts in any given moment. Yeah, like the suggestion is like, why don't you get out of the moment for a second? Come with me.

Yeah, look at this and and I that's very strange and in the catacombs, I felt so There Because I was going through this physical stuff and we were so locked in and before each song would happen for 30 seconds, we agreed to say nothing. Before, after, we're just, you're almost like, this is it, this is it. And so it felt so in the center of your feet,

like there was no yesterday, there was no tomorrow, we're underground, I don't know what time it is. It's like a kiss. Yeah No doors the most macabre casino you can ever think of Yeah, that's that's exactly how I'd imagine it would feel like just overwhelmingly present Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I think because everyone else in there represented the past and there is no future because you don't know what time it is. That absence of where am I forces you to be stuck there and the past of these people sort of pressing against your backside.

It's like an invisible force. There's a bunch of sections in there actually that they kind of don't show because they're not as sort of sexy, I think, ultimately. Yeah. Or where they just ran out of, they must have run out of people to do this kind of exotic work. You know, as the pillars are decorated, the walls are decorated stacked. And then there's a couple of sections where someone was like, I can't anymore, I'm done.

I'm too tired. I'm too tired. It's just like, you know, bones in piles, as far as the eye can see. It's like where, clearly someone put in there two week notice. That must just be insane though, just a pile of bones right next to you. That's a sight.

You know, I don't know if you would have the same reaction, but mine was something akin to there's a big pile of bones. I look over and I thought, am I supposed to do something? Am I supposed to start? Should I start here? Like what do I do? Do I arrange these beautifully? I know I heard my dad's voice like get to work and get over there and start piling up that's a pile. What do I do these beautifully? I heard my dad's voice like, get to work and get over there and start piling. That's a pile.

What do I do with this? Yeah, like, that's like a to do pile. Yeah, like we can't just leave that. I think I would feel the same. I'm a completionist. I need to do this. Like, feels unfinished. Yeah.

Well, and that's, it feels almost like sensory deprivation and sensory overload all at the same time. Another thought I had too actually in there was that because you're in this sensory deprivation tank, you know, I can, I was so immediate to picture people working away for countless hours not understanding the reference and sort of getting in the zone of stacking. It's like, I'm just doing femurs. What are you doing? How are your skulls coming? Gary, Gary. That's like, Gary, I love what you've done with that corner. I was just gonna say, I love what you've done with the femurs. It looks great. Somebody's like, you should add a tibia in there and I think it will really offset it.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I think you should add some tibias. Yeah. You know, we can't. There's Larry's over here doing metacarpals and that is it. You got to get on Larry's level. Like it's really is. You are not. Gary, you're no Larry.

Step it up, Gary. Come on, man. Come on, Gary., you're no Larry. I want to. Step it up, Gary. Come on, man. Step it up. Come on, Gary. And that's- The month again is Larry.

Or better said- Like how do you not think of that when you're down there? Like I honestly, I would have to be thinking about that. Well, I think I accidentally turn anything into the office. You know, just like- Oh, that's Elena. As you should. Business vernacular.

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It was somewhere between the ages of eight and ten. I, I, my, my, the way I deal with time is at this point in my life by when records came out. I don't know what you're about. You know, I'll just be like, oh, that was songs for the deaf era. That era. So I, my childhood is like, the window is eight or ten and, uh 10 in a history class. It was in a book. And there was a brief discussion about this time frame.

And it immediately struck me. I think as a kid, you never think you're going to die. And I think especially in the United States, there's a tendency to say, oh, no one's going to die. You don't die. No one's dying. We're good. Oh, if you just, there's a panic, you know, when the only way to know you're alive is

to not be dead. Yeah. So I think I've always been obsessed with the transitions of life. Like I think because I grew up right where the desert starts, you know, there's mountains and snow and pine trees at the top of the mountain comes down and there's then the desert begins at the base mountains. But in that spot and that transition is where all the nutrients are, it's where all the good stuff is, where the oasis is, it's where all the palm trees are, it's why they're there. And so I think I've always been obsessed with one foot in each location and things like

the catacombs where life and death merge and then they make art. That that's been my fascination for most of my life. It's like being split in half where, and on that line is where the art is, you know? Oh, that's so cool. That is, that's very, yeah. Yeah. So I just got kind of obsessed with, I wouldn't say death because it's not that it's that there's a beauty in that. And that the only way to live is to know that you won't forever.

I love that. Yeah. I think it's cool too that in the Paris catacombs, because like I think over here, we can treat death like you were saying, like it's like, like we don't talk about it and just like, shut up, you're fine. Like everybody's. Yeah. Shut up. The thing about death is shut up. we don't talk about it and just like, shut up. You're fine. Like everybody's shut up about that. There's shut up.

Yeah. Like shut up about it. Like we don't want to hear it. And then it's like, then the Paris catacombs is like this, like, I don't want to say like a celebration, but it's like a tribute to it. And it makes it like this beautiful, like these bones are not these people anymore. Their souls have gone wherever souls go. And now they are here, but like, you know, they're here, but not here kind of thing.

Like, it's like what you were saying of one foot in one foot out. It kind of celebrates life and death all at the same time. Yeah, I think it is 100% a celebration. Yeah. And I also think, you know, you keep someone alive when you're talking about them. And, you know, I had my very best friend pass away a couple of years ago, and we talk about him constantly. And we have this sort of ofrenda, I suppose, you know, just over here on that eagle table. Oh, yeah. Right? And oftentimes, I'll just touch this little sculpture on his head and be like, hey, buddy.

You know, I just. Hey, buddy. Yeah. So I think these sort of celebrations that I suppose become an altar in their own way are just cool. And that sort of thing gives me relief. But I also have gallows humor and I'm sure. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. Yeah. That was how I survived working in a morgue. Yeah. You know. A lot of gallows humor. Yeah. It's, I believe gallows humor is a really successful way to,

when life is good, it's funny, and when life is terrible, it's really funny. Exactly, as it should be. Yeah, it demystifies, it takes out the scariness of it all. Adding levity is always the way to go. Especially when you find yourself in a situation where you realize, well, what am I gonna do? Yeah, right that question kind of funny sometimes it is

Because a lot of times the answers are not great. So it's like might as well laugh at it I'm healed. I'm all good. But when I got diagnosed with it, but can't send the up I was at behind these I was in a I was behind these four other wheelchairs. I got pushed up and the doctor, who I knew, so we were friendly, I knew he said, hey, real quick, you have either this type or this type and I'll be back in five minutes. I started laughing so hard. I feel like damn. It's like a server stopping by and checking in with your table.

These other four people went. They're like what? In a row, almost like a synchronized swimming team in wheelchairs. Oh my God. Oh man. And I started, I looked at them and started laughing and I was like, who wants to go jogging? I love that. I thought and I started I looked at him and start laughing. I was like who wants to go jogging? I turn around of course I do

Look I was like of course I do of course I Thought it was funny and tragic and it was it it's okay for these things to be everything. Yeah absolutely or It's okay to admit they're everything. They already are everything. Exactly. Things are rarely just one thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You gotta have fun with it. Yeah. Have fun with it.

Yeah, have fun. And speaking of having fun, people have fun with the catacombs, apparently. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I turned it dark already. Oh, no, we'll keep turning it dark. You're morbid. You're good. It's called morbid. Exactly. We'll either lead you to the darkness

or we'll follow you. What's our show description? It's like a lighthearted nightmare. Yeah, so it's all about. A lightmare. A lightmare, yeah. You're in the right place. Well, apparently, did you hear about the movie theater

that they found in the Paris Catacombs? I did. Isn't that insane? Because I obsessed, the good part about the internet is I have obsessed and I've watched fake videos and real videos and, you know, the movie theater, you got to tell everyone about the movie theater. It was, so it was, they found it in 2004, which to me always, I always am like, that was like five years ago.

And then I'm like, no, that wasn't like 20 years ago, which is insane. Damn. But they found an entire cinema set up in the Paris catacombs. The people had set up a professional theater. It had a screen, a projector, it had a bar, it had a restaurant set up seating. It was stocked with food. A dinner table, a big dinner table. You could sit down, like they had an illegal

electrical system set up. And like we thought Lux level was cool. Yeah, I'm like, how, my first thing is like, how'd you get all that down there? Like what entrance did you go in? Cause I don't think the illegal entrances are very big. Well, the interesting thing is that the, so I met a couple cataphiles and what I come

to understand is that there are so many entrances. The limestone mine that is what it was required such ventilation and is so vast. It's like 200 kilometers. Yeah. Passageways and openings. And so there were so many entrances and exits that, you know, they sort of mole hole the city that way. That's so cool. There's many times where there'll be steel double doors and they open

to a stairwell that goes into the catacombs. Oh my god. Or a manhole. Yeah. And you think of the sewer and it's like, nah, no, no. Yeah. And it's a ladder. And I love, I love secret societies unless I'm not included. And then I hate that. And then they're lame. They can't be too secret. Yeah, what's your problem? But I love the idea that, you know, the,

I don't know if it's true or not, but on the subject of this cinema dinner club, which I love, the authorities were down there looking for something completely different. They see this in this one of the grander open areas there that can house this size thing. And apparently they discover this and then they say they're going to come back tomorrow with a bunch of people. And they find it's all completely gone.

And there's just a note on the floor that says, do not try to find us. That is my favorite part of the story. Don't try to find us. That's so chilling. I love that it was like, be very careful. Don't even try. It's amazing.

I want to be part of that club so badly. And it feels like a cartoon where like, they turn to the right, then they turn to the left and everything's gone. And you're like, how did that happen? Like, very Scooby Doo. But someone who kind of is high up in that club is a very clever person. Yes. A mastermind. It's one thing to take everything away. And it's another thing to say, and by the way, as you leave, you know, there's some very, very sexy about that. It's so badass. It is so badass.

Yeah, it's quite, I find that quite hot. Agreed. And a unanimous decision. Yeah, a unanimous decision that that is hot. But we're like, hey, if you're out there, we love you. We love you. My number has a five in it. We're like, Hey, if you're out there, we love you. My number has a five in it. Well, and on the same topic of like, I'm sure things you've come across, you must have come across the video tape that they found.

Which one the one I was going to say lost or, you know, trying or feeling they've seen something and running and running and dropping the video camera. Yeah, and it drops into like a puddle. You hear the splash and everything. I want to know if that's real. It is. No, unfortunately, I just, I just know in my bones, that's not real. See, I was so worried it wasn't. No, I feel in my bones. It is.

Really? My bones are more optimistic. I think they are. They're very optimistic. And I'm not, I'm not pessimistic by any stretch because I want it to be real so bad. I want that to be real because so much of the catacombs are illegal to explore. I mean, we're the only people to legally play there. But there's been, in the open sections, all these tunnels come to these various open, you know,

sort of knuckles that they the veins come off of. That's what I've come to understand. I love picturing it like that. I know. And in these sort of knuckle rooms that are not as huge as it would seem, but some are bigger than others. There's been, you know, raves that have happened. That's wild. That's so scary to me.

Apparently the 80s and 90s that was like, in rave culture's inception, which I always loved, you know, in my first band when I was 18 or 19, I went to a rave and it was like six numbers to get to and I was fascinated with it because it was like punk rock without any politics. And it's like a secret society kind of thing, like a speakeasy. It's very much that. Yeah. And the music was extremely intense and really simplified and it was just pounding and just and like the idea that that would occur in multiple numbers in the secret society that was about, I just love escapism, be the value and escaping the real world. Not all the time, but using it as a tool to like,

get the pressure in the right spot. Yeah, equalize equalize. Right, right. Exactly. And the idea that this would have occurred in the catacombs amongst these bones and in this scenario, and underground, you can't hear it. I mean, you want to talk underground. It's it's as underground as underground. Yeah, yeah, it's just underground, it's underground. Yeah. Yeah, it's legitimately underground.

It's not so legit, you know? Like that's crazy. I just think of the fact that you like when you're at a rave or at like a super loud concert, you hear that, like you feel that in your heart. Yeah. In like the beat kind of way. I feel like it would just collapse the catacombs. I would be horrified. That's my fear. That was my fear watching you guys perform. What's I was like it would just collapse the catacombs. I would be horrified. That's my fear. That was my fear watching you guys perform. What sounds like, are you worried? Yeah. Well, I'm claustrophobic.

Yeah. And many of the places I had to go, I'm six, five. So I had to duck. I was going to say there's a part where you're walking through this little passage and your head is barely scraping that ceiling. Yeah, you know, I'm just sort of, I'm looking for and reveling in moments where the situation is clearly in control and I'm not so I therefore I can't be in control. Like I look for especially through music. I look for these moments where in those moments where you understand Control has been taken away. Mm-hmm. I feel like those are the moments where I I think okay

so the only thing to do is I just need to be myself and Surrender to this I I'm not in control and. And I love that feeling of being out of control and the risk that's associated with it. So there was a few places. That's my fear. That's my shuddering. That is my fear. It is because I feel like there's nothing else to do

but be yourself, there's nowhere else to be. Yeah. It's a really positive, I even have this on my mic stand on the floor, it just says it's too late. Ooh. All the rehearsal and all that stuff, it's over now. Yeah, you know, it's too late Just do it or as Oscar Wilde said be yourself. Everyone else is taken I love that and so I realized there were some low-hanging areas. I would not be able to recognize I was like

If I hit my if I hit myself or hit my head, that's just the way this goes. That's just something that will occur. It's just inevitable. I'm not interested in hitting my head. I'm not going to go out of my way to do it on purpose. But if it happens, just sort of say, that's what happens when the ceiling is low. And if the blood flows, just let it flow. Just don't do anything.

Just allow yourself to feel whatever's going to happen and just kind of continue on as you were. Honestly, that's probably the best way to get out of like a panic moment in those situations. I was going to say, I respect your approach to life. I got to take this on. Well, I mean, you don't always find yourself there, but in that moment, in that place, and because I had, you know, we don't have to get into it too much, but it's like, because I was so not well. And so there was like, always this undercurrent of like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, going on. But I'm really thankful for that, because it connected me to that space.

Yeah. Because when you, once you walk off this, you know, there's this spiral staircase that you go down, that's really tight and you just kind of, you go right in a corkscrew motion. Just continuously. Yeah. It's like 240 some steps to go up and down, you know? But once you get off this steel thing, you get in this limestone, the ceiling's dripping, the floor starts to crunch under your feet with gravel. It's sort of like you enter the belly of this thing and you kind of go back into this womb

a little. And it's like, you know, clean up your womb. Go to your womb. Go to your womb. You go on this thing and you sort of, you know, I just got really connected to this organic thing. I was in having my own troubles. I'm seeing all this, you know, where where we all will end up. It couldn't have been a better situation. Like it doesn't matter if it hurts. It doesn't matter if you hit your head. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter anymore because we're, we're here now. Are you, are you going to do it or not? It's too late. But there's something really sort of beautiful about all the rest of this is done now. I think as a former mortician employee, that would probably make sense too. It definitely does. No, Ash, I'm not saying you don't. No. Cutting hair was not like this, so no offense taken. I mean, I guess there's no going back when you cut off too much.

Too late, definitely. I believe in that way. Like a bad cut off. Yeah, you know, late. Definitely. I'm late in that way. Like a bad job. Yeah, bad job. On a whim, I've shaved mine and it's clearly too late. But there could be going back because it'll grow back. Exactly. Yeah, true. All right. Well, we kind of got into it like now that we've touched on your performance. So let's get into it a little deeper.

How long did it take you guys to film and what was the prep work like? Well, we filmed in just one day. Oh, one day. That's nuts. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm not a perfectionist. I like, as I said, I like the risk and I like, I like it to be just as it is. Right. But we knew that we were going to get complete takes of a song and we knew we were gonna not fix, correct, you know, edit, we were just gonna let it be.

And I'm glad we chose that because whatever plans you make above ground did not. Might not translate. Well, you think, I think this. Right. Yeah. We, we really should this. And as soon as you descend those stairs, it was, it was so clear that the catacombs

already exists as it exists. You will participate in what it's telling you to do. The catacombs decide. You plan the catacombs decide. You plan the catacombs laughs. That's actually the correct way to say that. That's my real phrase. So it was more like an improv.

What I imagine an improv class was whatever is thrown at you, you just say yes and let's go. And so when we once we the night before we did a walkthrough as soon as it had closed and they said they said to us you have an hour. Okay. You know they wanted to like wow. I mean they weren't they weren't they were excited we were there but they were like take an hour. Like we don't know what's happening here. So yeah, I think there was just a lot of what are you gonna do? What are you gonna and as we walked, we just said, well, we can go here. We can go here. We can do this. We and we just the team we worked with was so good at utilizing our all of our collective excitement that you really just move at

the speed of inspiration. And you move at the speed of excitement and when something feels like, then you just move on. Yeah, that makes sense. And it became clear because we're using battery powered things, you know, became clear to me, I can move around. I can, you know, just walking around that pillar was just in the moment, like, I'm going this way. Here I go. I don't know. I just want to see. And, you know, sometimes if there's a camera here, for me personally, I'm like, my natural instinct is get that thing off of me. Yeah. And so walking.

Like I'm going to leave lie back there. Bye. There's mistakes and there's things I mean, you're hearing take two of the first song you're hearing take three of four takes. Wow. Oh, wow. It feels really nice to be in this moment. Have played something twice and say, that's enough. That's enough. It's enough. You know, and yeah, so it, like I say, the turning over the control to the place and saying, not being a perfectionist about it. Right. And saying, that's as good as I can do that. I don't know what else to say. That's, that's, you know, it's nice. That feels nice, actually. It sounds like that's just the way you have to approach it down there.

Yeah. I think in a lot of things, um, it's, it seems like perfection is an ideal you strive for, but not something to expect to actually, nobody is perfect. So what makes you think you're going to get there? Right. How do you expect to actually get there? It's not even, you know, and I reckon perfect would be boring because it's free of all mistakes. That's true.

And sometimes the mistakes are the best part. It's friction is the most glorious thing of all time. It's how the universe is made. It's how babies are made. Valid. Music is made and so I think you're looking to find something to borrow friction from and enjoy the rub you know I think down there it's so imperfect which makes it so classic in there yeah we really we really are second fiddle to

that location I think that's makes this makes me so proud of this thing is that we're almost sort of less important than what's happening, than just the environment. Yeah. You all worked so, it all worked so well together. Everything compliments the other. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

I'll tell you that I couldn't. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. You know, I, I'll tell you, I couldn't go back up and down the stairs. I'd gone up and down the stairs about 12 times and I just, I just couldn't do it. And the French love lunch. And so I love lunch too. I'm just like, I love lunch. So everyone breaks for lunch and, and I just couldn't do it. And I had a cot that I could lay down in between takes.

And so I just said, I'm fine. I'm just going to stay down here. So I was the only person in the catacombs for about an hour. And you know, we're deep in there. I think it's got to be somewhere between 50 and 100 meters deep at various spots. So I'm deep and I'm many hundreds of meters in, 200 meters in more in this maze. And all I'm hearing is the ceiling dripping and nothing else and the air gently going whoo.

That's cozy. That is cozy. And I thought if the lights go out, this is going to be the craziest army crawl I've ever done. Oh, my God. Yes. And I thought I'm just not going to try to go anywhere, you know. And then, but I thought there's over 6 million people here. If there's a chance to be haunted. Oh, yeah. This is it. You're not alone. That's prime chance to be haunted. Oh yeah. This is it.

You're not alone. That's prime time. Yeah, I just said, this is it and it's too late. It's too late. And what I found really interesting is that maybe it had to do with the physical state I was in, you know, where my body's just humming and I have a kind of a pretty high fever. But I realized something

about the word haunting because it's not, that's not bad. It just isn't one or the other. It's just this kind of like the waves coming in like, because I felt so welcomed and embraced there. Oh, I love that. That it gave me peace. I'm not going to lie. I was doing a lot of this at first. Oh, yeah, of course. Naturally. You know, and I never got up. Once I sat down, I just was sitting in my cot. I'm looking around and I said, Oh, what are we going to do? Let's just have it. Do your best. Do your worst. And I gotta say the overwhelming feeling was so embracing and it was a bit like, don't just play here, stay here.

And I laid down and I'm looking around and it lulled me to sleep and I fell asleep for the first time in a long time. You took a nap in the motherfucking catacombs. Yeah. That's some gangster shit. That's really cool. And I woke to the sound of two young interns, a boy and a girl speaking French.

Oh God. And they were kind of whispering. They're like, is this guy dead? No, my cot was a little bit set back into this hallway, which was not really lit. Oh my God. So they couldn't see you? So they're like, what?

So I was in 100% pitch black in a mine of darkness. Even more gangsta. Josh, J-Ho. J-Ho. Where it was like, when I would turn around, I couldn't see my hand until I put it up to the light. But down all the way, I was like, nothing, right? I hear their feet softly on the gravel.

I hear them speaking French and they walk kind of right by me and I sit up and I said, what time is it? And they go, you ruined their lives in that moment. You ruined their collective life. You took at least five years off of both of their lives. Did they die then? Wow. And then they disappeared. And then they were gone. It was so weird. It was crazy. It just dematerialized. They immediately turned and, you know, French is their first language, so they immediately turned and sort of, I understand enough French, they were swearing in French.

And then he was like, what are you doing? You're like, just snapping. French, French, French, French, French, transition, what are you doing? These young kids that were like interns, they probably weren't being paid a single cent. Like you can't do that. And have the audacity to be like, are you out of your fucking mind? Just sleeping in a dark corner.

A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. Maybe a lot of it. Oh my god, that's amazing. Honestly, though, as a parent, I understand why that was probably the best sleep you've ever gotten. Yeah. Because I feel like-

I'm not a parent, but that does make sense. The idea of that is so horrifying at first, and then I'm like, actually, no, that sounds kind of awesome. Kind of like grade A spot. 80 feet underground, just in a dark corner. There was just this feeling of, of pressing onto you. Yeah, it's just like. Like leaning, like, you know, when your dog just sort of

decides to go like this. Dead weight on you. You're like, the fuck are you doing? I got a leaner. I got a leaner. The catacombs is a leaner. Wow, that's wild. I think it closes in on you.

Yeah. And I had no sense of claustrophobia, obviously no sense of time. And so I also think that piece of there is nothing, you know, it doesn't matter what's happening up upstairs. It reminded me of there's, you know, I have a couple moments of things that are completely unexplained in my life. I have this moment in Pennsylvania. So my first band was called Kaius and we traveled in a van and we met these two gals that were DJs at like a really little station, a station that would play

us at the time. We did this interview on the radio and they said, well, you know, we live in Pennsylvania, which is, you know, extremely haunted. And we have a ghost in our house named Isaac, who we've seen from the waist up. You know, we live in a 200 year old farmhouse in rural Pennsylvania. And you know, we were as a collective, some people believed more than others. I was a complete skeptic of, you know, I want to believe in ghosts, but I need, I need empirical evidence and it can't, it can't just go bump in the night, especially in a wood house that's creaking and contract. Fair enough.

That's how I am usually. Right. And I want the science to prove the ethereal, right? And so these girls were like, you should come stay at our house whenever you're passing through next time. And so about two months later, we were on our second kind of tour. And so we did and we went to this farmhouse and our bass player Scott is married to an indigenous tribal leaders daughter. Oh wow.

And so he was like calling her and saying, what should we do or not do? You know, very smart. He's like taking notes. Yeah. And she was, she basically said, um, don't, um, antagonize. Yeah. Don't ever provoke. Don't ever provoke and don't drink. The latter's kind of sucks. Yeah. So we start drinking. This is like a, I would say a 10 bedroom, very much older and sort of not dilapidated,

but not palatial. It was, you know, rustic. Yeah. Rustic. Very, very much rustic. Honestly, Elena and I both grew up in a house like that. Yeah. With less bedrooms. Yeah. But something that is terrifying when you look at it. Yeah. Just like very ominous. Yeah. It was like, I instinctually don't love this. So I actually don't really want to stay here. Well, I was probably 19 years old, so I was very blase. Like, I don't love this, but we're going in. Yeah. like I don't love this but we're going in yeah and we had a video camcorder and the singer John and I I said can we investigate this place we were going to

sleep in the attic an 8 frame open attic that was epicenter of activity for that reason of course it was stop that's the best and for that reason. Of course it was. Stop, that's the best. And for that reason we were going to sleep there. So I'm like jealous of you right now. I know. So we, the singer John and I go room to room, opening every chiffre robe and armoire, every closet door that had servants stairwells and stuff. So kitchens would have a small door and then go up a spiral staircase. I personally went to every single room in this house with John and antagonizing this thing. Wow, you ignored all the notes.

Doing exactly what you weren't supposed to do. Why did you even call this girl? I'm like this going, whoa. I mean, it wasn't aggressive. It wasn't like, come and get me, what's going on right here? It was kind of going, whoa, like this is a haunted toilet seat. Whoa, lift it up. Being very 19 year old boy about it. Yeah, just a complete bonehead, which I maintain to this day. As do we. I've cultivated. It's worked out. Yeah, I mean, so far, it's not bad.

I'd say it's been successful. Good work if you can get it, as you well know. You'll never work a day in your life. Yes. Just love to be that personality. Stay stupid, my friend. So, we go room to room methodically, first floor, second floor attic, right? And I can vouch for opening every single, I said, can we open your closets and do this

thing? They're like, go ahead. You know, up on top of the closet feeling above, I'm tall enough, so is John. There's no stone unturned, I guarantee you. We set our sleeping bags up in a circle. Oh, that's fun. With our feet in the center of the circle. And there was our manager, Kathy, her husband, our sound man, this guy, John, and the four of us. And so there's six of us sleeping on a hard floor. And, you know, if you want to use the restroom, you have to go down to the second floor and take this creaky staircase. And the camera was in the middle and I would wake up intermittently and just film around. And the amount of times I woke up intermittently and just film around. And the amount of times

I woke up was ungodly that night, I think, because you're expecting something. Oh yeah, you're on guard. And every time I woke up and opened my eyes, I would look over at one of my band members and their eyes would be wide open. They heard your eyes open. Our bass player Scott is quick to be like, there are things here for sure. You know, it's very, very quick, so quick to do that, that I was like, ooh. Immediately you're like, no.

You had to bonehead it out. Somebody untied my shoes around. You know, I was being a total, an asshole, essentially, a bonehead as a coping mechanism, right? And so no one slept. Nobody slept. And I sat up multiple times and filmed around. And although the experience was eerie, you know, and I heard noises because it's an all wood home, my dad's a contractor, I understood what I'm hearing is more than likely is not. There's no evidence here of something else. The house is settling. He said, I actually just should call my dad over.

And we all finally fell asleep in the early morning hours and we all sort of woke up together and as we're waking up stretching, we're like, Oh dude, that was a terrible night's sleep. All agreeing. We kind of stand up and we're stretching. And Scott, our bass player reaches down and then the center of where our feet is, the little circle, I guess you could call it was, you know, about this big, a little more than shoulder width. Scott reaches down and picks up this accordion and starts playing it and goes,

Ooh, the only problem is, is that we don't own an accordion. I was literally just going to say there was just an accordion. Wait, what? And some of the keys were missing. Like some of the ivory on the keys. And it was unsnapped. So just to sort of describe the accordion, which is one of my least favorite things to

do in life. Describe accordions. Yeah, I truly hate it. I'm going to do it here. Go for it. But clearly it's about pushing air in this vented system. Yeah. Air. So one of the terrible things about accordion is when you move it, when it's unsnapped, the snap keeps the vent closed. But when you uns move it when it's unsnapped the snap keeps

the vent closed but when you unsnap it it goes hey and it's constantly like the worst or one of the best things it's the fucking worst and so the reason being is that it's like a needy friend that's needy all the time it goes hey Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey of us are like, well, it's obviously not fucking mine. Not mine. I have an accordion. And it starts from giggling to confusion to disbelief to anger. We start arguing. Who the fuck brought the accordion? Who put this here? Yeah. And John and I start saying we filmed this whole house I didn't see an accordion anywhere there was no accordion anywhere. I want to tell

you something that doesn't get said a lot. You can't hide an accordion. No, you really can't. You know what that doesn't get said enough. I think tell people that. Yeah. How many fucking dinner parties where somebody tries to say that you can hide an accordion? Spread the word. Or I brought you something. Here's an accordion. What do you get for the person that doesn't want something? But it turned into anger

on finger pointing. It was like, who put this here? You put this here. No, I didn't. How could I put this? Where did I get this from? It turns into John and I saying, I can assure you. Like we searched everything. So unless this isn't a deep recesses of something that's having gone to take a leak in the middle of the night, myself out of sheer, like I have nothing to do and I can't, going down the squeak, squeak, squeak, squeak.

Like you could not have infiltrated our circle of six and plopped an open accordion. You were Isaac because it would have said, Hey, I don't, I wish I hadn't said plopped, but whatever, you couldn't have pulled this off because it wasn't just me that didn't sleep well. And then we approached the two girls downstairs and we're like, we bring the accordion and we said, he said, who's this? We found your accordion. Ha ha ha. And to my amazement, I saw the look on their face. They said, we don't have an accordion. They said, why the fuck would we have an accordion? We like music. That would

actually be really embarrassing for us. Our Zydeco band, is that what you're saying? So they freak out and they said, this is Isaac, that is not us. This is Isaac's accordion. I love that Isaac just like brought an accordion. He said, you say you're musicians. Musicians. Music. Look, other spirits. Look, musicians.

And you know, this is a farmhouse that had been a hospital in the civil war. This is some entertainment. This is a place where accordions thrived apparently. Yeah, and continue to I didn't realize later it was an accordion farm. That made sense then picture watermelons don't sound good, but they just right out of the ground. Their shock and horror because started to become ours. As we get in the van to drive off with our trailer, no one spoke for a couple hours. And then we get a

phone call. They took it to a local music store immediately and said, What, what the fuck am I holding? And sure enough, the music store owner said, what the fuck am I holding? And sure enough, the music store owner said, you're holding a huge mistake. No. He said, get that the fuck out of my shop. You're holding an abomination. I said, this was a music store.

Get this thing out. No, he said, oh, wow, this is beautiful. This is like turn of the century. This thing is almost a hundred years old. And this was in the early 90s. Wow. He said, wow. Yeah. He's like, some of the keys are missing, but, you know, I mean, you know, if you fix it up,

this could be worth $7. He was like, no, this is extremely old. This is the oldest accordion I've ever seen. Wow. And so I don't have an experience with an apparition, but I have something I cannot explain that is so bizarre that almost I still feel almost a little foolish even like, like I don't for years after this, every once in a while would be like, just between you and me, did you put the accordion there or not?

Or not? Just say yes. For real. And I have it somewhere on film, you know? And apparently the footnote to this is the two girls started seeing full body to the floor, Isaac all the time. And so they moved within a month. They saw full body Isaac. Well, you completed him when you played the accordion. Full body Isaac. It sounds like a really terrible male strip. It does full body Isaac. Yeah.

Welcome to full body Isaac. Damn. I don't want that. I don't want full body Isaac. Most people don't. Most people don't want full body Isaac. Because I was honestly concerned with hearing that they heard from the way they saw from the waist up Isaac.

I was like, how? No, but you know what people say? But then you heard full body Isaac and you're like, he said, I don't want that either. I don't want that. But sometimes people say that if you are in like a haunted place or you live in a haunted accordion farm, that when you see half of someone it's because there's been renovations since they passed.

Oh yeah. And they're actually like stuck in whatever that full room was, but maybe you've done some kind of renovation. So they're like stuck in between or they're showing like they're in between. We've covered something like that. They're unrenovated. Yeah. Unrenovated.

Yeah. They're walking on like the previous place where the floor was. So you'll see like waist below coming from the ceiling. I forget the hotel that we covered once, but we covered a hotel and there had been a fire there. And somebody was seeing like a Native American man in the now hotel's dining room, which had previously been two rooms. So he was upstairs, but people would see like his feet.

Stuck in the wall. Yeah. You see him like halfway out of the ceiling. Who knew open concept could really free the room completely? That's why I'm a big fan of it. In many ways. I'm setting ghosts free and my space is limitless. Well, you know, I, we passed around a lot of discussion and in particular with these two gals, I wish I still knew them or remember their names. It's been so many years because I'm so old, but you know, there was a lot of positivity eventually about this being an offering and a token of, of

sort of like, hi guys. Hey, hi guys. Look, look, I heard your musicians. Look, yeah, check out my fucking accordion. He's like, I know music too. A little bit of a Labrador vibe. Yeah, very golden retriever. He's a lap Isaac. All my other experiences of unexplained

things have always been positive in the same manner. They've never been negative in any way, shape or form. Oh, that's a good thing. And the same feeling I had, I feel the same way about the catacombs and why I fell asleep. That I just was like, I felt like, you know, sit, lay down. Yeah. They were just like, tucking you in. Sit, lay down, play an accordion when you wake up. We'll leave you an accordion. Well, thankfully I wasn't asked. The catacomb Parisians have way more taste than that. There you go. They have the little ones, you know. Oh yeah. Tasteful. Yeah.

I forget what those are called. Annoying. That's right. That's it. Nailed it. Also respect the way you made that story come full circle. That was, that was impressive. That was.

Well, I'm just realizing that I am realizing this for the first time that as I say, my experiences and this realm have never been negative. Just lucky, I guess. Bye. Bye. And with that, I leave you. Good luck, everyone. Before you actually do walk away from us,

do you wanna play Catacombs themed Would You Rather? Absolutely. Let's do this. Are you starting us off? I was gonna say you should crack your knuckles because it's gonna get weird. Yes, stretch a little bit. Get ready. No, this is accordion.

Yeah. I'm already stretched. I stretched way before this. Got to prep the accordion. All right. So the first would you rather is you're in the catacombs, you find a secret tunnel and it's marked don't. That's it.

What do you do? Do you go in anyway? Or sorry, I don't feel like that's it. The second choice is do you avoid it and be forever haunted by a ghost who sighs, coward, every time you go to sleep. It's a hard choice. We know I'm a don't person In fact, I've always wanted to open and speak easy. That is just a neon sign behind No, so you just see and it just flashes don't that's a great idea I think that's great. The place is called don't so you've got you hit me in the center of my don't right in the field right in the oh of the don't I my don't right in the field right in the oh of the don't. I love it. So you're going in. I'm definitely going in. I think that's life is all about ignoring the rules. Yeah. Finding which ones to ignore. Yeah. I think I'd go in at that point. I don't want to listen to a ghost

every time I'm going to sleep. I just don't want to be judged by a ghost every night. That's the no. Like I don't want to hear it. That's the reason to go. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. We're judged by enough living people every day. I don't need, cause I just picture some like bitchy ghost walking up to me right as I'm getting comfortable in bed and just being like, Coward and just like walking away. I love that yours is full disdain just like Howard. What would yours be Ash?

How would it say coward? I think it would have to be kind of like creepy like, coward. See that I'd just be like, I'd be like, fuck off. Yeah, mine would be like, coward. Yeah, just like, ha. Just a little school taunting. Like, coward. Very like, sucker.

See, mine's got disg. And that's why I said, yeah, yours is the harshest. Wow. Yours is yours is rooted in like a need for therapy. Yeah, it's rooted in judgment. And I don't like it. Ashes is sort of like, yeah, do what I did there.

Is that I could kind of I'd be like, all right, that's kind of funny. Every night. Yeah, every night., I'd be like, all right, that's kind of funny. Every night. Yeah. Every night. We'd lose its appeal. I'd be like, all right, bye. But I think for some reason I'm shaking my head because yours is going. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's a challenge.

I don't take criticism well, so I'm just going in. Yeah. That's true. I love that yours is based on criticism. Like I'm not, that's enough of that. Yeah, I can't do it anymore Yeah, I gotta go in there. I don't want to hear it. I'm just I always think though when someone Is saying you can't you can't do this. You cannot do that. I was saying, what do you know? I can do it. I want step aside coward

Coward and that's why you're going in though. So that makes sense. Can we all say our versions of coward together? Yeah. And that is a sound bite. Mine has a face with it. That's the visual. Mine has a hand lotion. Mine is like, ugh. All right, so we're all going in. All right. Hopefully we've all made it out alive.

If we've made it out alive, uh oh, we're now lost in the catacombs. This is like goosebumps. So it's choose your own adventure. So this one scares me. I'm putting it in a Zen. This is scary. So who do scares me. I'm putting in a Zen. This is very So who do we trust to guide us out? Is it a French speaking bat with a drinking problem or? Problem a trucking problem. Is it a car? I mean, maybe we've drank

Doing that so hard a French you don't have a drunken problem. Look who's got the biggest drunken problem. That's drunk. He just flies out of nowhere. He's like, we, we, I don't have a drunken problem. I do not have a drunken problem. Like Gasson. Sorry, I didn't wrap up. I'm sorry. That was great. There's that guy. Or there's a glowing skull, but he only answers any questions we have in riddles and dad jokes. Choose your fighter. Who are we letting lead us out? The bat with the drunken problem speaks French.

Then there's the glowing skull that only does dad jokes and riddles. Yeah, I mean If I'm honest, even though I like to have a drink like if I'm honest, I gotta go with the dad jokes I love a dad joke. My husband is not yet a dad, but he is perfecting his dad jokes right now. Oh, yeah It's a lifelong process. I love it. I have great respect for it. Yeah. John's favorite is he'll randomly say to our girls, did you know that someone in this family is turning into an owl? And they'll say, who?

And that's just adorable. And then he'll just be like, yeah. Gotcha. And every time now they've like caught on to it and they're like, oh, the adult that that would work on is who I want to hang out with. Right. Who? If an adult would say who, that's the person I need to be around.

Frankly, I might be that person. That's the person you need in your life at all times. Take down my number. It has a five. It has a five in it. It has a five in it. We know that. Are you going dad jokes, Elena? So I'm really good at riddles. And. And I'm like a bag. It's a humble brag. Consider it an unhumble brag. Oh, shit.

I'm pretty sick of riddles. I'm really bad at riddles. I'm just good at them. I mean, that's why I keep you around. And I live with a dad. So I'm fluent in dad jokes as well. The Riddler's going with dad jokes. Yeah, I'm going with dad jokes. I don't know what I'm going with. I don't understand French, but I that would be flying out of there.

So I guess I just fall. Yeah, but but, you know, drunk flying. Yeah, I know. You know what happens there when you're drunken and you're flying is against the law. They say, follow me right into the wall. Yeah. And then he's passed out and I have to wait even longer. Then you have to walk into the wall because that's what you're like, Oh, because that's what he did. I'm doing what you say. Yeah. Oh yeah. I don't want to. Okay. what am I doing? I'm doing what you say. Yeah. Oh yeah, I don't want to.

Okay. Dad jokes and riddles. I'll just be with you. We're always together. Yeah. And I'll help you with the riddles. Okay. And I'll lull at the dad jokes.

Me and the Riddler, we're getting out of here. Yeah, we're getting the hell out. All right. That works. All right. So we haven't gotten out quite yet. So we awake at a catacomb rave. Who's your DJ?

A spectral monk who mixes Gregorian chants with dubstep. Picture that for a second. Take that in. Or a talking skull on a Roomba just screaming, bone zone on loop. That would drive me fucking crazy. You decide. That second one would drive me crazy. Okay, but wait.

And dubstep is like. Okay, but wait. But dubstep is like, yeah, like that. Right. But with the, which sounds like you're in a really weird spa. Yep. But I think the Roomba thing would drive me crazy. And what, he's just yelling in the bone zone. Well, he was just yelling bone zone, but he could yell in the bone zone too. Right. I mean, it wouldn't change how annoying that is. Do you think that he would just be yelling it in the same tone or do you think he would remix it?

Because we had this discussion when we came up with the question. No, no, it would be so annoying. I already hear it's like, bone, bone, bone, bone zone. Every time. Well, no, I think it would be different with like, you're but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but This glowing skull or excuse me this talking this rumba riding skull. Yeah, it's already making me go like Look around for help like am I alone? So you're going Gregorian monk with dubstep I'm Gregorian that direction spectral monk is pretty fun Yeah, I would say I like when you say spectral monk that sounds like a book I would read absolutely

About the spectral monk, that sounds like a book I would read. Absolutely. So I feel like you went about the spectral monk. Hell yeah. Terrifying. Yeah, I think we can all be unanimous on that. The one with the Roomba too is the thing about a Roomba is that it always gets stuck. So that thing would just be like beeping while it's like trying to back up to, and it would be like, oh, zone. And it's like, oh. Yeah. And I it would be like, oh, and it's like, yeah.

And I don't like that the skull is piggybacking. The teller true. I once bought a Roomba and just, you know, at a very difficult time in my life, I would watch it and it would get stuck and I'll go, Oh, it's a little he Ro rumba for me. It was like, he's over there. He loves this corner so hard. Oh, and he can't move. Poor thing. But then you have to keep moving. Who loves the corner over there?

Who loves the corner? It's like a- Who's a good little rumba? Yeah. Go clean that corner. You get over there. So I don't like that he's sort of bullying. Bullying really gets on my nerves.

And so I just I would slap that he's sort of bullying, bullying really gets on my nerves. And so I just, I would slap that skull and then I would record. I'd be Gregorian that way. Nicole Zichal-Bendis Yeah, Gregorian out. Nicole Zichal-Bendis I agree. Okay. So now you have to spend the night, which apparently you sort of did halfway when you took your nap. But now you've been there, done that. Spend the night in a special catacomb tomb, but the problem is either the walls whisper compliments all night, like weirdly specific ones like, your kneecaps are so powerful. Or the floor is made of teeth,

lots and lots and lots of teeth from unknown origins, and they're warm. Warm teeth. Warm teeth. And you don't know why. Or weirdly specific compliments from the walls. Compliments make me want to barf. Me too.

What if they were all these specific though? That even makes me want to barf harder because they're then if they're specific, they're so tailored towards you and not someone else. You know, it's not like you know how to throw a great party, which is sort of broad and ambiguous. Like everybody kind of knows how to do that. But it's like, I love the way your mustache is coming in. I don't know, you know, no one rocks that.

Like, I just can't, you know, I... Compliments are surefire way for me to Sort of say it was not great talking to you. Let's go I'll be going I have I have teeth dreams Recurring for my whole life same and so and I've had everything done in my teeth possible from being a total moron throughout my life Oh God, this is actually hard. Do you want to go first? So my, I had the same thought about the compliments are an absolute no-go for me.

Cause the second somebody compliments me, I'm like, like I like immediately shrink into. I'm leaning in. Nothingness. So I would just be huddled in extreme discomfort all night. If they were complimenting me, I'd be like, stop it. Yeah. Kind of squished like this. My heart rate would, my blood pressure would be up.

It would just be bad. But teeth, I don't love teeth. I don't love walking on teeth. Have you ever experienced warm teeth? Warm teeth might be nice. I was going to say like a heated floor. It might be like this beach is not so bad. Yeah, it's just a little, little bit chilly.

Don't forget unknown origins. So we don't know if everybody's brushed these teeth. That's the other thing though. It's unknown. So I don't know, in my headcanon, these are clean teeth. Oh, I never saw that. Clean teeth from a unicorn. Oh, honey girl.

And that's as far, like, I'm wearing my slippers. I don't go anywhere barefoot, so that way, Barber. You can't do that, you can't do that. You're breaking, bother. You can't do that. You can't do that. You're breaking the rules. You can't do that. I can't go in my head cannon? No.

God damn it. No, but I love head cannon though. Fire. I can't do it. Fire a rule breaking. No, you're changing. You can't do that. You're breaking the rules because they're unknown origin.

And that was from the outset. Ash said that right after temple. And then I made it of known origin. That's the name. Yeah, and you're like, these are from various unicorns, which I love. And that's beautiful. Yeah. I wouldn't choose that. I can't make it known origins. All right. I know. I don't think so. I messed up. Different colors possibly, different stanks. So the here's where I say the teeth room. The

mouth smells disgusting. The mouth smells disgusting. I don't know if you've been there. Oh, I didn't think about that. Okay, here. So I'm still staying with teeth. They're warm. Yep. Hear me out. I don't ever walk in bare feet. I don't walk in bare feet in my house.

I always have socks on. I have a thing about bare feet. And also, I have a deviated septum, so I can't smell very well. I do too. So To me I'm walking on Some shells on the beach in my head like that's what I'll tell myself. No. Oh, yeah, you're like they're just shells It's warm and I'm you know what and I can't smell so no Yeah, oh

So so completely on the contrast of you, I have a great sense of smell. Like to a fault. She has an elite sense of smell. I'm not, I'm not about that life. And I'm always barefoot. In fact, sometimes I leave here and I forget my shoes here. Yeah. And I love compliments.

So I'm going oddly specific compliments all the way. That's kind of your ideal situation. Yeah, actually. Where do I sign up for that? I just pictured you shoeless and comfy smelling the clean air, just going like, thanks. Thank you so much. I agree. Every couple of minutes, you're just like, thank you so much. Yeah, this is this is my dream scenario. I can see you like sitting up randomly and just being like, I know. Right.

Or like, do you really mean it? Are you serious? You're for real right now. Yeah, I'm going compliments. And I think. My deep seated dislike of being brown nosed is going to push me in the tooth zone. You guys are nuts. Your deviated septum is gonna help you. Yeah, I mean, I can stab my brain on the right side, clear, and my left nostril is completely

closed off. So I... Do you guys have the same deviation? I don't like this. We have a mirror deviation. I like where you've taken me, but I'm gonna tooth it up. Tooth it up with you. The crunch of the teeth deviation? I don't like this. We have a mirror deviation. I like where you've taken me, but I'm going to tooth it up. Tooth it up with you. The crunch of the teeth though, I don't know.

Yeah. And the stank. But again, get that deviated septum working and you're going to be good. But the smell of a brown noser is overwhelming. Way worse. Hey, maybe they're not brown nosing. Maybe they mean it. Okay.

Maybe they mean it. Brown nosers mean it. Okay. Maybe they mean it. Brown nosers mean it. Trust me. But you don't know. Like, what if the walls are whispering it like really sarcastically? Like they're like, oh my god, I love how your eyebrows look today. There you go again. I'm saying you don't know. It doesn't say. Yeah, you don't know that wasn't in the rules. You can't bend this. Yeah, you can't. They're just oddly specific. They're oddly specific, but we don't know how they're said. Because there would certainly be a tired moment where you're just completely like five-year-old tired. We're like, oh, you're like enough out of you.

Are you serious right now with the compliments? That has the potential to ruin me if they're sarcastic compliments. If they're being, you know, those are just criticisms. That looks good on you though. Oh, no, I would never sleep again. You already chose it. Yeah. What if they're like, what if the walls are like, oh my God, I wish I could dress as comfortable as you do.

I do dress really comfy. So I'd be like, yeah, fucking dry. I wish I could just not care. That's hecking mess right there. That's I wish the walls would, you know, saying I wish I could dress as comfortable as good comfortable like that. I wish I could be comfortable being so carefree with all these skeletons. I'd say, well, I bet you're uncomfortable asshole. Yeah. And then we'll welcome you into the teeth room. I'll say, please let me in you guys. No, you'll say no, you chose this. Let me in your mouth guys.

Oh man. Oh man. So we have a couple more, but they're, we're getting a little more like darker. It's realistic. Yeah, because we're almost out. So now we're on our way out. Would we rather walk through waist deep water in a flooded tunnel or crawl through a dry but very narrow passageway?

I guess this is so simple for me. Yeah, I'm not water. Yeah, I'm not crawling to a tight space. I'm too big. I shouldn't have even been employed to do that job. That's not no. No, I fire myself from that job. Yeah. We're walking through the water. Like when you're like this, like a little wiggle machine. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I can't. You know when cave divers are like, and then I let the air out of my lungs and you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. They're like, I had to let all the air out of my lungs so I could get smaller to collapse my body, your bodily processes to get through there. No, no, I don't want to talk my body, your bodily processes to get through

there. No, no, I don't want to talk about this anymore. See? Yeah. And the greatest thing is we you choose to do it. So I'm not doing it. No, I've seen the descent. I'm not doing that. Yeah. Yeah. And frankly, I'm a little peeved that we even suggested this. This is too much. Honestly, I know it was a little crazy. Get in that water. Bring it in. You just end the Zoom call. You're like, fuck those ladies. We're done with them. This was fun.

See ya. The only bummer is and like, obviously, we're going through the water regardless, but stagnant water. We're going to get sick. We're going to get parasites, everybody. I'm and it's just like, what's just like three inches from the floor there? Yeah. And like, I just, I'm doing it.

Yeah. I probably ultimately would walk through pretty briskly. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And I'd be like, oh, I just got some of them out. You know, just getting like day going. We're doing it together.

Yeah. We have, we have support. Yeah. Get, get behind me, get in my wake. Water ski and my way. Incredible. All right. This next one is fucked up.

You thought that was bad. You are going to leave after this. I don't want to go any further. You're like, I'm done. I'm dying in the catacombs. You said I'm not passing go. I'm going to boil this water. I'm going to drink with this bat.

I'm going to drunk with this bat. Yeah. All right. So the next one. Drink. I'm not drink. OK, well, not the last one, the next one, whatever the next one is... I'm not drink. Yeah, okay, last one. Not the last one, the next, whatever the next one. So would you rather find your own full name etched into a skull, like freshly etched into the skull, full name, or discover a photo of you that has been taken of you a minute ago, like laying down in a sealed chamber? I like that you sat back for this. I mean,

this is like a, you said, I gotta get comfy to decide. This is a heady one. Immediately when you said, etched into his skull, I was like, that's kind of bad ass. It's kind of metal. That for me, that could be like, even though it veers close to the compliment in my own mind right away. I like the idea that there would be somebody that's really into music that would be down there and think, you know, who would love this? Let me get my chisel real quick. Hold on a second. Like that's something where I would go, oh, you thought of me. That's very kind, actually. That's the kind of compliment I'm looking for.

Yeah, I would gauge the sincerity of that. That was what Larry did to get employee of the month. Yeah, exactly. This is how you win my good graces, Larry. Gary would never think of that. That's why I don't like Gary. The photos would be that we've just discovered something that's not good and is still here. That's in my mind. That's where that goes.

Yeah. You know? And so I would think, Oh, now I got to watch my six all the time. I'm like not happy about that. Yeah. Just, you know, I don't love looking over my own shoulders. That's not a good feeling. No. And I want to see like what's going on. Like I don't want someone seeing me and I can't see them. Yeah, no, that's no.

Yeah, I don't like people. I don't like people creeping on me. I don't like, I don't like motherfuckers crawling on me. It's the same. Get off my back. Yeah, don't do that. You need to create some space here, Gary. Yeah, and I need to keep my eyes on you.

It's true. Yeah, get off my heels. You get in front of me, Gary. I'd like to get where I can see. I need to see you, Gary. Yeah. And I need to keep my eyes on you. It's true. Get off my heels. You get in front of me, Gary. I'm like, get where I can see. I need to see you, Gary. Kodak Gary over here taking pictures of me, put them in the goddamn thing. I'm also a really ugly sleeper. So, oh, deviated septum. My mouth is wide open when I sleep. It's not good. I'm the opposite. I'm like curled back. So I have like 18 chins and my husband's like, oh, she looks cute and shows me later. I'm like, why the fuck did you take that picture?

I love that you're wanting to keep you in your sleep. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not finding an ugly picture. I think everyone is sort of ugly cute in their sleep. That's the thing. You know what? Not everyone. Yeah. I was going to say I could speak from experience. I was trying to keep it positive. Because I think my husband will take pictures of me if I fall asleep on the couch, but it's never like, oh, look how cute you are. He's like, look how crazy you look. You look like a total dead body. I'm trying to be nice here, but a total dead body.

He's like, check yourself. Yeah, he's like, damn. Humbling you right now. She humble brags and he's like, look at this. You're a five-year-old, you know, you watch them sleep and you see their eyelids and you just, you trace the lines of their face. The cutest.

And then, yeah, other than, unfortunately the rest of us look like a crime scene. Literally, yeah. They look so peaceful and I'm like, how do you do that? I guess you don't have a deviant septum. They don't have worries yet. Worry. There's still time. Yeah, they're not cognizant of the world around us. They're like, this is we're gonna break that nose. Somehow. We're gonna take the

It happen The other thing is with the with your name etched into a bone. I was saying people have the same names. Maybe that's not for me Yeah, my last name means man in French. So it does. Josh man. Yeah. Yeah. See, I have a pretty unique name. So you do. It would help me out a little bit. Yeah. To see Urquhart on one, I'd be like, I have the most modern name ever. Ashley Kelly. So you could say that could be a lot of anybody.

Yeah. Anybody's mom made a bad decision. Name them actually. That's just, you know, Ashley Kelly. That's your, your married name. So that's just a drunk Irish thing that's drunken with that bat. Yeah. That's why I got rid of it. Grab Ashley Kelly. Oh, it's rough. Come closer. Yeah. We get an Irish bat too. Yeah. I like that. That's who. Come closer. Yeah. Get an Irish bat too. Yeah. Yeah. I like that.

That's who got the French bat drunk. Hell yeah. There's a supplier down there. There's more to these bats. There's a supplier. Of course there is. All right. Should we do one more?

Yeah. Would you rather light a final match, it's your last one left, and see a face just inches from yours, or see absolutely nothing, but feel a cold hand grip yours and not let go. I think because I'm such a horror movie aficionado that I'd want the visual. One of the primary reasons I like to watch horror and horror shorts too, because horror shorts just get right into it. Because I want the hairs on my arms to stand up. I think for the viewers at home, sorry, Gary, where are you? But I think to share Sherry the Gary, you know, I want the face. Yeah. Because I imagine the face

would go, Oh, yeah, and just blow the thing out. You know, you light a match. You're like, I've only got one left. You just go, and it goes. And that would be Oh, I love I think I think that would be more terrifying because now I'm in the dark with this thing. Yeah. The gripping it to I think, you know, life is about accumulating wonderful stories, you know, life is about accumulating wonderful stories. That's what life is really about is, you know, logging just wonderful moments of time. And I

think being gripped on the hand would be something that's just mine and makes it tougher to share. If Gary told me that I'd be like, Yeah, right. yeah, right. Yeah. Right. Gary. Yeah. Someone's been in the mind too much. Someone's drunken with the bats. Yeah. Yeah. So I think, you know, life is about sharing. So I think I'm taking the face. What do you, what do you think? I think I'm taking the face too, actually, because I also don't like being touched by people I don't know. So if something gripped my hand, I'd be like, Whoa, yeah. I think you know, you're about to get gripped when something blows out your candle, but

I can run at least. Yeah. Right into it. Hello. Let's go. You could knock it down in that case. Yeah. Let's throw some bows. Just body it. Yeah. Just body that thing into a wall and go. We watched horror movies. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, because I don't like holding hands like they get clammy and stuff. But this one's OK. Well, that rose my next thing. OK. Fine.

I was going to be like, hold me. Reach out. It's virtual. It works. But also, I don't like, hold me. It's virtual, it works. But also I don't like close talkers. And when I think of somebody that close to my face. That's not hot steamy breath in your face. That's not going to be fun. And like teeth with unknown origins.

We're back there again. I don't know this person. I don't know their teeth. I've got a little something they're not wanting to talk about. Teeth maybe over there on my right. This is tough. Not naming any names, but. Not saying who it is.

Listen. Far right on my screen. Listen. This is a tough fucking choice. I think I'm going hand. I'll go hand just to be different. Oh, that's so reactionary just to be different. I'm just. He's like, now I'm done.

I am leaving. No, but again, I don't like close talkers. Well, the thing is you're probably like in these scenarios, I imagine like your imminent death is probably upon you in both of these scenarios. Yeah. So I'd rather have that like fun last moment of like, ooh, real life scary movie, like in my face.

Could be a ghost that thinks it's its birthday. Maybe. Could just be like, you know. Blowing out the candles. You just go make a wish. Yeah. Yeah. You don't know. You don't, you don't, you don't know.

You don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Nobody does. Oh, Josh, this has been so much fun. Yeah, this has been a blast. Please come back. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I'd love to come back. Oh, we would love to have you. I had so much fun. Yeah, this has been a blast. Please come back. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'd love to come back. Oh, we would love to have you. I had so much fun. This is killer. Yay. It's been so much fun. Is there anything that you wanna plug before we let you go? We know you have some cool stuff going on

like your charity sweet stuff foundation, tour, anything. I was just about to say, I'm not interested in plugging anything. People do whatever you want. But yeah, I have a charity called Sweet Stuff. We help a lot of musicians, families, everyone in the music world is self-employed, people that are sick and have illnesses, and we help a lot of kids, families of musicians. That's awesome.

And it's very rewarding. And so yeah, sweet stuff.org. Awesome. Sweet. We'll put it in our show notes. Yeah, we'll link it. Oh yeah, that's something I would plug. The rest, enjoy yourself. I do stuff.

If you want to find out, just go ahead. I love that. It's up to you. Do what you want. Again, choose your own adventure. I like it. Choose your own adventure when it comes to me and everything else.

Hell yeah. Perfect. All right guys, so thank you so much for listening. We hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird. Wow, you went really long. That's great.

We always do. You gotta. You never know when it's gonna end. Talk about weird weird we'll just put our coward at the end of this all three of our cowards yes perfect we're So Coward.