Morbid - Episode 696: Linda Hazzard & Starvation Heights (Part 2)
Episode Date: August 7, 2025At the dawn of the twentieth-century, major advances in science and technology brought incredible change to the field of medicine, enhancing and extending the lives of millions. Yet at the sa...me time, a lax regulations and minimal oversight made it possible for countless medical grifters to get rich offering quack medical solutions to everything from whooping cough to cancer, sometimes at the expense of their patient’s lives.When Linda Hazzard opened her sanitarium, the Institute of Natural Therapeutics at Wilderness Heights, in Olalla, Washington in the first decade of the 1900s, she claimed her rigid fasting and elimination approach to dieting was a miracle cure for a variety of illnesses, both trivial and serious. For years, Hazzard operated what amounted to a health retreat for the wealthy, without any oversight from the state or federal agencies. In the end, Hazzard’s starvation cure resulted in the deaths of over a dozen people and her arrest and trial for manslaughter, but through all of it, she maintained it was a viable treatment—standing by her methods up until they ended her own life.Thank you to the Incredible Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for research and Writing support!ReferencesHines, Terrence. 1997. "Starvation Heights." Skeptical Inquirer. Lovejoy, Bess. 2014. "The doctor who starved her patients to death." Smithsonian Magazine, October 28.Olsen, Gregg. 2005. Starvation Heights: A True Story of Murder and Malice in the Woods of the Pacific Northwest. New York, NY: Crown Publishing Group.Seattle Daily Times. 1911. "Erdman diary tells method of treatment." Seattle Daily Times, August 14.Seattle Star. 1908. "Charged with starving eight-months-old baby." Seattle Star, January 30: 1.—. 1911. "Denies she 'fasted' 2 girls." Seattle Star, August 9: 3.—. 1911. "'Fast cure' woman is arrested." Seattle Star, August 7: 3.—. 1909. "Prosecutors think they can put a stop to starvation cure." Seattle Star, June 26: 1.—. 1908. "Sign doesn't make a doctor." Seattle Star, June 8: 6.—. 1909. "Woman starves to death under care of Dr. L.B. Hazzard." Seattle Star, June 24: 1.—. 1908. "WQeeden case leads to Dr. Hazzard's arrest." Seattle Star, January 31: 1.Tacoma Daily Ledger. 1912. "Dr. Hazzard has her first inning." Tacoma Daily Ledger, Janaury 28: 1.—. 1912. "Dr. Hazzard's trial begins." Tacoma Daily Ledger, January 16: 1.—. 1912. "Final arguments in Hazzard case." Tacoma Daily Ledger, February 3: 2.—. 1912. "Heiress testifies against Dr. Hazzard." Tacoma Daily Ledger, January 20: 1.—. 1912. "Mrs. Hazzard breaks down, and is attended by a dcevoted follower." Tacoma Daily Ledger, February 5: 1.—. 1904. "Samuel Hazzard sent to Minnesota prison." Tacoma Daily Ledger, March 16: 3.—. 1912. "Witnesses deny state's charges." Tacoma Daily Ledger, January 30: 1.—. 1912. "Woman bathed by young men." Tacoma Daily Ledger, January 23: 1.—. 1911. "Woman meet before judge." Tacoma Daily Ledger, October 22: 1. Stay in the know - wondery.fm/morbid-wondery.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash, and I'm Elena, and this is Morbid.
This is morbid in the late morning.
Yeah, early afternoon.
Early afternoon.
What have you?
Yeah, I had food poisoning last night.
Ew.
So that's cool.
Got some funky chicken from takeout.
Luckily no one else did.
Do the funky chicken.
So I was not doing it last night.
It was a rough night, but I'm here now.
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next day as well yeah it's just one of those i mean you're also living that mom life yeah you're just
not you can't be it's just like one of those things obviously there's things off quickly though
yeah i was going to say i usually do yeah but yeah well that was bad news do you guys want some good
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We went to T.J. Max, so you should go today.
We stopped there.
Because they have out their fall decor, and we just summoned Halloween this morning.
It felt so right.
Felt so good.
I got some pumpkin pillows.
You just said that like you were disassociating into a blitz.
I got some pumpkin pillows.
You just looked zooted off your rocker, my guys.
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I know.
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But yeah, I got some pillows.
I got, what else did we get?
Oh, I got a candle.
Of course.
I got a candle.
But of course.
I have a stockpile right now of Halloween packages, like just decorations that are just in my dining
room.
Just waiting.
I'm like, come on.
Waiting to be torn open.
September 1st.
Let's go.
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All right.
September 1st, it's on.
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So this is part two of Linda Hazard and Starvation Heights.
A horrific tale so far.
Yeah, thank you.
That's correct.
Yeah.
This has been awful and it's only going to get worse.
Yay.
So in part one, we introduced you to the woman who called herself Dr.
Linda has.
She's not even a doctor.
That's the thing. Thank you.
You've taken the words out of my mouth.
She had no medical degree to her name.
None.
But, you know, she called herself her doctor.
We went over her strange-ass partner, husband, Sam, and all the drama surrounding
they're getting together between him being like a big old bigamist, leaving her,
coming back, leaving her again, and then showing back up again once he realized that she
had an idea that was going to make some money.
Yeah.
People be people in.
People be people in.
And philanders be philandering.
It's true. But unfortunately, that money-making idea was pretty bogus because Linda's big idea, if you don't remember, was that fasting, quote-unquote, could solve any and all ailments afflicting patients. But her idea of fasting was really just starving people.
Yeah, it definitely wasn't fasting. No, and I don't want to hear it.
I don't want to hear it. I'm not talking about fasting. No. I'm talking about starvation here.
But that's why she opened the clinic, Wilderness Heights, which eventually, like we remember from part one, the locals started calling starvation heights, right? Which is really horrifying. People were dying, left right and center. And as I said at the end of part one, things were going to take a much darker tone when people started signing over their estates and power of attorney to Linda and Sam. That's when shit feels like it's going to get really shenanagony. Because it's like once you start signing over property and money. Yeah. Yeah. Money is.
the root of all evil. It really is.
Truly. So, given the number of patients
who died as a result of Linda Hazard's
supposed miracle cure, it
would be reasonable to wonder why so many
people continued to put their faith
and their money into her big idea.
But there aren't many more things
powerful than the fear of illness and death
and for a lot of people living with those fears,
the hope that Wilderness Heights
represented outweighed the skepticism
and reason. Yeah.
So people all over the world
continued to read the books of Linda Hazard
and would travel to Washington to seek out her miraculous cure.
It's desperation, man.
It is.
Anybody with chronic illness or pain that they're going through?
That's a thing.
Like, on its head, you can say, oh, my God, why would anybody ever go there?
Like, why would you subject yourself to that?
But if you don't have chronic pain or chronic illness or anything like that?
Then you can't really understand that kind of desperation.
You just can.
So among those who sought the help out of Linda Hazard in 1911 were Claire and Dora Williamson,
two wealthy British sisters
who had actually just gotten a large
or not just gotten
when they were younger. They received a large inheritance
after their parents had died pretty early on.
Okay. And they invested a significant
amount of money in traveling
and experiencing the latest in health trends.
That was like their big thing.
Okay.
They were like health gurus before health gurus.
I was just going to say they were like health TikTok girlies
Yeah. Before that was a thing.
Yes, exactly.
They were trying all the latest things.
Yeah.
So the sisters had seen.
an ad for one of Linda's books while they were staying in a hotel in Victoria, British
Columbia. And once they finished the book, they were enamored with the so-called doctor and her, quote-unquote,
quote-unquote, revolutionary methods. Oh, no. Quote-unquote. Quote-unquote. Isn't that fun to say
like that? Quote and quote-unquote. Neither were ever seriously ill up to this point, but they both
had a tendency to indulge in hypochondria a little bit. It can happen. Sure can. You've all seen people
like that. And they constantly sought out new fast
cures for whatever was ailing them. According to author
Best Lovejoy, Dora complained of swollen glands
and rheumatic pains, while Claire had been told that she had
a dropped uterus. Damn. Which I haven't heard of.
Yeah. Yeah. But as enthusiastic followers of the
alternative medicine movement, they had both invested
lots and lots of time and money into chasing products that
claimed to provide relief, but up to this point, nothing
had worked. So from what they read, the sisters
envisioned this beautiful lakeside retreat in Wilderness Heights, where they could rest and receive
treatment for their chronic conditions. But when they arrived in Washington in February 1911,
they were very surprised to find Wilderness Heights an unfinished and putting it nicely, very rustic
location. Well, Wilderness Heights. It wasn't at all the exclusive modern camp that they
had envisioned. Instead of housing them at the sanitarium, though, Linda arranged for them to stay
an apartment on Seattle's Capitol Hill, and she would just go there daily to quote-unquote
provide treatment.
Okay.
Quote unquote.
Quote and quote.
Thank you.
I feel like they were probably picturing, if I can always bring it back to Gilmore Girls.
Let's go.
If you ever see the first Life and Death Brigade party that they have that's like in the woods
and it's very like great Gatsby S.
I don't know if I remember that.
But it's like tents and candlelights and like it's very like everyone's, you know, dressed in
white.
I think I actually.
Is that when they jump off the thing the next day?
The next day, yeah.
Yeah.
And so I feel like that's what they were picturing when they heard like wilderness heights.
They were like, oh, this is going to be fancy.
Yeah.
We're going to be in these like beautiful tents and candles and bougie tents.
Where they're like massive and they have like queen beds of them.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I want to go to one of those.
I was always very jealous of that Life and Death Brigade party.
Yeah.
Like I want to have a party like that.
Invite me.
I would go.
Yeah, I'll find a wooded area.
And you're all invited.
Awesome.
All right.
So get ready.
She just didn't say whether or not it would be haunted.
Exactly.
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her care, Claire and Dora were subjected to days-long fasts with intermittent meals of
one cup of the juice from a tomato a couple times a day.
Oh.
Yeah.
When they weren't resting, the sisters would receive, are you ready?
Am I ready?
Hours long enemas in a bathtub.
Hours long enemas?
Hours long enemas.
No part of me can conceive of that.
I can't even conceive of, like, one enema.
I don't even know how long they take.
I know it's not supposed to be hours.
Hours feels insane.
Hours feels like torture.
Like, I'm not even being hyperbolic.
That sounds like fucking torture.
No, it literally does.
So when the practice became too much on their bodies because it was torture,
and they would eventually pass out,
instead of stopping, Linda had canvas supports installed on the tub to keep their heads from slipping
underwater.
So she could continue the enemus.
And they're passed out at this point.
yeah yeah to me that sounds like torture torture and like and that she's going above and beyond to
torture and she's like depraved yeah yeah that's depraved exactly after two months of treatment
like this in seattle linda transferred clarendora to wilderness heights now for continued treatment
by that time they weighed about 70 pounds each these are grown women that weighed 70 pounds each
And they were so emaciated that neighbors actually took notice of their poor condition.
Wow.
Others would have been concerned for their safety, too, if they had any idea what was going on over in Washington.
But according to Lovejoy, quote, the sisters were used to their family disapproving of their health quests
and told no one where they were going when they left for the United States a few months earlier.
So no one knew where they were.
Given past disapproval from their friends and the discouragement from Linda Hazard,
Claire and Dora never contacted anyone during their ordeal.
until it was too late.
Oh, that's awful.
Yeah.
So their horrifying experience was finally discovered
when their former governess,
which is kind of like,
it's like a nanny and a teacher.
Yeah.
From like way back one.
But Margaret Conway,
she received a mysterious telegram
on April 30th, 1911.
Margaret had been the girl's primary caregiver
since their parents had passed away
at a young age.
So she was super close with them.
She was like the closest thing to a mother that they had.
So they always stayed in touch
after Claire and Dora had.
own and Margaret returned home to Australia.
Actually, the sisters were planning
to visit her in a few months, so when
she got this strange telegram that read
ComSS, Marama, May 8th, first class, Claire.
So she assumed that
it was a note informing her they would be
arriving later than they expected, because
remember, they already had a trip planned.
Yeah. She would have set the note aside and probably
forgotten all about it if it hadn't been for the
strange phrasing. She wondered
why Claire would have mentioned that they were traveling
first class.
because she knew that the girls were
She knew them practically their entire lives
And they had never really been the type
To flaunt their wealth
So it seemed out of character
For Claire to mention that they were
You know, traveling in luxury
Being bougie
Yeah, yeah
So unable to shake the strangers of the telegram
Margaret called the steamship company
To inquire about the votes arrival
And she was surprised to learn
That the SS Marama wasn't sailing
To Sydney, Australia on May 8th
It was sailing from Sydney to the United States
Oh, damn.
So she was still confused by the telegram,
but she was sure it was some kind of indication
that something was wrong
and that Claire and Dora needed help.
So she booked the only ticket that she could on the boat
as a third-class passenger
and left for Washington on May 8th.
That's somebody who loved them.
When I say she's the closest thing to a mom they had,
this woman was essentially their mother.
That's, like, love.
Yeah, big time.
So when she finally arrived in the U.S.,
Margaret was met by Sam Hazard at the train station.
Oh, no.
And they traveled by bus to Margaret's hotel in Seattle.
It was during the bus ride that Sam told Margaret awful news.
Claire had died.
Holy shit.
So she had just got this telegram from Claire, couldn't shake it,
figured out that like something was up, got there.
And by the time she got there, Claire had already died.
And according to...
And she didn't even have any health problems before.
No, no health problems.
She starved to death.
Wow.
She literally starved to death.
According to Sam and Linda, Claire's death had been caused by a quote,
quote, course of drugs she had been given in childhood, which had, quote, shrunk her internal organs and
caused cirrhosis of the liver.
No.
Yeah.
By the time the sisters had reached the clinic, Linda said Claire's illness was too far advanced
for the, quote, beautiful treatment to be of any use.
Beautiful treatment.
Yeah.
So when Margaret finally reached the mortuary where Claire's body was on display, she was shocked
by what she saw.
In death, a once vibrant young woman who she had known.
since childhood was a shadow of herself.
Claire was alarmingly emaciated.
There are photos if you do want to see.
Yeah.
It's horrible.
And they're of her living.
Yeah.
And her features,
like her face,
her hands,
the color of her hair,
had all become distorted
to the point that everything just looked wrong.
Oh.
Margaret did not recognize this girl.
It's true.
It's horrifying.
Yeah.
So the horrifying revelations continued,
unfortunately,
where Margaret was taken into Dora's room.
To her horror, Dora looked like she also might die at any minute.
Yeah.
By that time, she weighed 50 pounds, Dora.
Wow.
And according to Lovejoy, quote,
her sitting bones protruding so sharply,
she couldn't sit down without pain.
Oh, my gosh.
So she was so small that she couldn't sit down
because her bones were protruding through her skin.
And there's a picture of her, too.
Yeah.
Living, obviously.
And it is horrifying.
No, it's scary.
To Margaret, everything about what the hazards told her seemed wrong, though.
She knew these girls since they were little,
and she didn't remember them ever having any kind of medical treatment
that would have caused chronic problems, like they were saying.
And although she wasn't a doctor,
she could easily see that Dora was starving to death.
Absolutely.
And she suspected that Claire's death might have also been related to the treatments
that she was getting from Linda Hazard.
But despite all of that, Dora remained committed to staying with Linda
in Washington.
In fact, to Margaret's continued horror,
even if Dora had wanted to leave Wilderness Heights at that point,
it seemed unlikely that she could
because at some point during their time in Washington,
both girls made Linda Hazard the executor of their estate.
And Dora signed over power of attorney to Sam.
You will never tell me that these people, the hazards,
are not fucking diabolical, evil fucks.
Diabolical, evil.
You will never convince me.
If they're having people sign over their estates and making them have power of attorney over their estates, you're fucking evil.
And just slowly killing people and watching them wither away.
Like, she's, this is so, like, all forms of murder are obviously, like, unthinkable.
This is such a different, this is on another level.
Like, this is slow, methodical, prolonged torture.
Yeah. It's fucked. So Margaret wants to do something, but she's technically a servant,
or what was considered a servant at that time. So she lacked the confidence or the authority
to remove Dora from the sanitarium herself. She must have felt so helpless. She did,
but she wasn't just going to leave Dora there to die. No way. So it just seemed that she wasn't
really a match for Linda Hazard, because Linda was also known to have a very dominating personality.
But in the days that followed, Margaret stayed in Washington, and she just sat there trying to come up with a plan to save Dora.
Margaret.
Yeah.
Margaret.
Yeah, that's a real one.
During that time, she was keeping in regular contact with the hazards, too, and she started to notice some shocking things.
It appeared since Claire's death that Linda and Sam had helped themselves to Claire's personal items, clothing, jewelry, just all of her stuff, which totaled nearly $6,000.
then, and would be over $200,000 today of personal belongings.
They are evil fucking assholes.
Yep.
Holy shit.
Mm-hmm.
And, oh, evil assholes.
To add insult to injury, Linda Hazard even gave Margaret an update on Dora's condition
while she was dressed in one of Claire's robes.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
She's evil.
No, she's truly evil.
She's straight up evil.
She?
I don't think she ever happened.
the plot to begin with, but if she did, she lost the motherfucking plot.
That is evil.
Evil.
So knowing there was nothing she could do to help Dora herself, Margaret decided to reach out
to the girl's uncle, John Herbert, who luckily lived in nearby Portland, Oregon at this time.
When he received word, he immediately traveled to Alala and was equally shocked to find Dora
in the state she was in.
But when he demanded that he be allowed to take her away, he was met with the same challenges
that Margaret had run into.
Dora was technically there of her own free will.
And even if they argued that she was in no condition to make that decision for herself,
Sam Hazard had power of attorney.
Oh, yeah, they made sure they covered everybody.
Yeah.
In the end, after much arguing, Herbert agreed to pay the hazards $1,000 in order to be allowed
to remove Dora from Wilderness Heights and take her to a proper hospital.
So this is all about money.
That's the thing.
These are adults.
Yeah.
The fact that they have to pay these people, $1,000.
to take another adult out of their care shows you how fucking diabolical they are.
And shows you not only how diabolical they are, but the fact that this is just all about money.
It's all money.
Yeah.
The fact that she's wearing Claire's clothing.
Yeah.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
While she's sitting there telling a loved one about Claire's sister's condition.
Yeah.
So in the past, legal challenges to Linda's treatment had failed, like we know, because the prosecutor
couldn't get past the protections that Linda and Sam were hiding behind.
And it seemed like the death of Claire Williamson wasn't going to be any different.
But this time there was an element that Sam and Linda hadn't counted on.
Claire and Dora Williamson weren't her typical patients.
Nope.
They were extremely wealthy.
And while Dora herself might not have been able to mount a campaign to get any kind of justice,
there were several other powerful people behind her who were now very eager to pursue this.
Hell yeah.
Take them down.
So the uncle, John Herbert, went to the district attorney to see what could be done
about this and he received the same answer that everybody else had where we really can't do anything
about this but he was like yeah fuck that fuck that so after getting nowhere with the district attorney
he went to the british consulate hell yeah and sought the advice of councillor luci and after doing
some digging agassi discovered the large number of deaths connected to the hazards and the suspicious
detail that several of those patients had signed over their estates to hazard right before they died
Exactly. You can't ignore that. Not even immediately, right before they died, which goes to show you she's starving these people to tell them that they're going to be cured of their ailments. But they're getting so foggy in their mind because they have no fucking sustenance. That they're like, oh, yeah, like, okay, I'll sign. That's part of torture. Like, that's literally part of torture's like lack of sleep, which is going to come with being starvation, like deprivation of all those things that you need because it makes you loopy and will make you eat.
either say things you don't actually mean, or sign away things that you don't know what you're
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So obviously the problem was in order to push
for an investigation, Agassi would need a living victim to make a complaint. And Dora wasn't
in any condition to do so. She weighs 50 fucking pounds at this time. And she's sitting in a hospital
bed. But luckily, within a few days, he ended up finding the wife of a man who almost died at
Wilderness Heights. And the two of them were willing to make a complaint. Yes. Go girls. On August 6th,
1911, Linda Hazard was finally arrested this time for manslaughter. Good. In the death of Claire
Williamson and she was placed in a holding cell in Seattle. She told her reporter, I'll get $10,000
bail all right. The doctors have been angry because I've been successful with my cure. And when Claire
died, they thought they had a great chance to get me out of the way, but they won't do it. Oh, go fuck
yourself. Also charged in connection with the case was ER Butterworth, the owner of a local
mortuary who was alleged to help Linda cover up their crimes. ER. ER. ER Butterworth. Emergency.
You don't. You don't deserve that last name. No, you don't. That's a cool last name. You're not sweet like syrup. No. You're gross. You're the meanest rude. I love. I'm too tired. I'm going to come up with the... She had food poisoning and I'm in the middle of this story, okay? Yeah, so fuck that. So after her arrest, Linda and Sam did everything they could to dominate and control the narrative. She said that Dora was mentally incompetent. She claimed that Claire explicitly asked the hazards to take over care of Dora once she was gone. And even,
signed over the estate to cover any costs associated with Doris Cair.
Claire wanted this, she said.
Oh, yeah.
She said, Claire wanted to be sure I would be paid for my services if she died.
Okay.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Who gives a shit about that?
Yeah.
After I die, I don't care what happens.
I don't care what happens to you, Linda.
I doubt Claire said that.
Even if she did, she was delirious because she was starving.
Yes.
But, of course, Linda even tried her usual tactic of domination during the grand jury,
but it proved ineffective on them.
They were like, yeah, we're not starving and we think you're an asshole.
During Dora's testimony, she eventually became well enough where she could give testimony,
she gave detailed descriptions of the horrors that she and her sister suffered at the hands of Linda and Sam.
And during that, Linda would quote, blaze hate and defiance at her prosecutor, her voice shrill and high ringing through the courtroom.
Oh, she must have been such, oh.
Yeah, she was definitely, I can just hear it.
Definitely domineering.
But after hearing the extent of.
of the testimony and witnessing Linda's behavior.
She really didn't do herself any favors there.
No.
The judge allowed the case to move forward to trial.
Hell yeah.
So the trial started on January 15th, 1912, to a courtroom packed with curious spectators
and the hazards critics who had been around for years at this point, just fucking
waiting for something to happen.
Among the 39 witnesses planned by the defense, more than a quarter were medical experts
who would testify the harm caused by Linda's fasting program.
the state's case was led by Thomas Stevenson
and it was pretty simple
it was designed to demonstrate criminal intent
rather than just negligence alone
yeah because this isn't just negligence
no once it's like we've been
it's pure criminal intent it's like we've been saying
all along once you get the money into this
yeah it's clear what you're doing it's clear what was happening
and he argued that he said Linda and Sam Hazard
lured the two young women to Washington
with the intention of swindling them out of their inheritance
and just allowing them to starve to death
the defense on the other
their hand, had nearly twice as many witnesses, but mostly patients who had received care from
Linda and would provide a counter-narrative about how their lives had been saved thanks to her.
Oh, stop.
Which most hadn't.
No.
The most compelling testimony came a few days into the trial when Dora Williamson told her story of life under Linda Hazard's care.
She told the jury, I was quite well before going to Washington, except for a slight attack of
indigestion, and am as a rule very healthy.
Claire was also very well except for a weakness peculiar to a woman, which had troubled her for more or less than five years.
And she went on to explain that Linda's methods were unlike anything she had ever experienced and involved, quote unquote, vigorous slapping.
Starvation and hydrotherapies where female patients were bathed by young male attendants.
Oh, so now we're getting even worse here.
Yeah. Cool, Linda.
Yep.
according to dora the sisters told linda that they were planning to leave in late april or early may
and that they had intended to go on a visit with their former governess in australia and dora said she told us that
her treatment would do us a great deal of good and that we would be wonderfully benefited but it became
clear to both of them that things at wilderness heights were not what they expected them to be
and that was when dora said i began to live in fear of dr hazard often she was harsh and unkind to me
especially when I cried because of my weakness.
Oh, my God.
What an asshole.
Yeah.
What an asshole.
And what is scary individual?
What an...
Dr. Linda Hazard, you're an asshole.
Cross-off doctor.
Linda Hazard.
Yeah.
Nobody.
Quack.
Quack.
Linda Hazard.
Quack.
Quack.
Quack, asshole.
Like, you suck.
Yeah.
Like harsh because they're crying because she's torturing them.
Like,
what the.
You have to be...
I'm not shocked, though.
Didn't she, like, abandon her children?
She just, like, had no intention of taking care of out.
And who knows what happened to her first husband?
I don't see any instinct of being kind to another human being there.
No. So, testimony was also offered by the girl's uncle, John Herbert, who told the jury
that he had serious concerns that the body in Claire's coffin wasn't even her body.
Whoa.
Wasn't even her.
Whoa.
He told the jury, the body in the coffin did not resemble Claire.
And Claire's, in life, Claire's hair was brown.
The being in the coffin had hair.
and eyelashes of a lighter hue.
The being in the coffin?
The being in the coffin.
So her hair is lighter now?
Her hair was lighter.
And remember, Margaret said that too.
Shit, maybe it wasn't.
It might not have been.
And if you think about it,
she had a deal with somebody at the mortuary.
Yeah.
Yeah, they might have just been...
Oh, damn.
I think they were doing that.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
But it's also like, why?
That's the thing.
I'm like, where is she?
Where is she?
Did she look worse?
Probably.
like there might have been evidence of more abuse
on her. I think so. Yeah. But he also
explained that he was prevented from taking Dora
away from Wilderness Heights by the hazards
who managed to get her to sign over power of attorney
and how he suspected
them of having stolen much of their wealth
with a plan to steal more once Dora died.
Hell yeah. That was their plan. Because they got half of that inheritance.
Remember, she was, Dora was
50 pounds when somebody finally got there. Oh yeah, they were working on that.
As expected, the defense denied the charges
against Linda, offering several witnesses, many of whom worked at the sanitarium.
Yeah, that's not a conflict.
So it's like, hello.
And they testified that the young women were not being starved or mistreated.
One nurse told the jury, we felt sometimes that we were even giving the patient too much food.
Wow, let's look into your background too now.
One extra cup of tomato.
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
That's really going to, that's going to tick them over?
How do they find this many fucking assholes to work in one?
place and sit there and be like, yeah, I thought I was overfeeding them when this grown woman
is 50 pounds. It's insane. It's insane. And people are dying left and right of being starved to death
and you're like, I thought I was overfeeding them. How did they find you? How did you all find
each other? Shit. You can't even conceive of it. No, I can't. I can't conceive of that way
of thinking. I really can't. I've never met anybody who's capable of this. No, it's so scary.
But the defense wasn't just looking to reject the charges. They were actually looking to frame Linda
as a victim of the state.
She was the victim here.
Oh, yeah.
According to them,
she had offered
life-saving treatments
to patients who suffered long-term
from previously untreatable illnesses.
And for that,
she was being persecuted
by the medical industry.
Wow.
Weir, wah, wah.
Wow.
Call the ambulance.
Because she's not part
of the medical industry.
Exactly.
You want to be part of the medical industry.
Go get your fucking degree.
Yeah, you're a scam artist.
You're not doing shit medically.
But she and her defense attorney
explained that Claire had not died
from starvation, but from a previous illness, so it was impossible to hold Linda accountable for
something when it was well beyond her control.
Wrong answer.
Thomas Stevenson had expected the tactics used by Hazard's lawyer, and he was ready for cross-examination.
And not only did he highlight the ways where the defense's witnesses' testimony was
directly contradicted by the evidence, he also accused several of them of having been coached
by Linda in terms of what to tell the jury.
Yeah.
And in the case of Watson Webb, a patient and sometimes assistant at Wilderness Heights,
it was revealed that he had been instructed to form friendships with other patients to get
personal and sensitive information from them, which could later be used to keep them compliant.
What else do you need to know?
Yeah.
What else?
Yeah.
Wow, they're so fucking evil.
And so, and again, so methodical.
And the worst part is these are, they are praying on people who are,
suffering and suffering like desperate in pain sick and just like desperate to feel better yep and they're having
like they're going this far into manipulating and torturing and hurting these people and scamming them like
what the fuck how do you do that? And she claims that her whole thing was that she wanted people
to be relieved from these you didn't want that shit at all it's like no you didn't you wanted their
money exactly by the beginning of February though both sides had rested their
case and prepared for closing statements. And Stevenson told the jury, this case is of unusual
significance. We are not here to avenge the death of Claire Williamson, but to protect the public
not only from Mrs. Hazard, but from others like her. There are other Claire Williamson's all over the
U.S. who may fall into the clutches of a woman such as this. When Dorothea and Claire first came to
Mrs. Hazard, she thought they were just ordinary patients coming to be plucked. But when she found out
they were women of great means and she had them in her power, she developed the criminal
intent. She allowed Claire to die
friendless and alone, but she could
not get rid of Dora, so she did the next
best thing. She had herself appointed
as Dora's guardian. Yeah, she's
evil. She's a monster. She is.
As expected,
Linda's lawyer, E.D., she has a thing for
like E. E. Bairway. Names Carr argued against nearly everything the prosecution said.
He told the jury, the real reason for this prosecution is that Mrs. Hazard is not a college graduate.
Her offense consists of not having been educated in the school of hard knocks.
Take every single fucking seat in the courtroom, sir.
Like, shut up.
Every single fucking seat. This is not a snobby. She doesn't have her medical license and that's where we're mad.
She's literally actively torturing and killing and starving people.
and stealing their money.
And it's being proven.
Like, can we not pretend that we're just, poor fucking Linda didn't get a degree?
Shut the fuck up.
Stop it.
It's also been proven at this point that she's coached her witnesses on her side of the thing.
And that she hired people to get personal information to use and hold over the heads of people she's stealing from.
Exactly.
Like, we're really pretending poor fucking Linda she didn't get a fucking degree.
Yeah.
Too bad.
I think it's okay, Linda.
Be so for real.
Be so for real.
right now. Holy shit. He went on to address
the charges though, saying she's lost some
patients, but where is the physician
who is not? Indeed, punishment
should it be necessary at all, could be
handled by the market itself. If she isn't
doing good, her practice will dwindle
and she will have to go back to that garden.
Wow. I'm like
speechless. Okay, dokey-dokey. Cool.
Anyway, the jury deliberated for 20 hours
which is far too long in my opinion, before
emerging to finally find Linda Hazard
guilty of manslaughter. Bye.
In fact, when the jury was polled, five members were in favor actually of finding her guilty of first-degree murder.
I would have been counted among those five, to be quite honest.
Same.
I would have been counted among all five.
Me, I would have been all five of them.
Would have taken up all five of them?
Yeah.
But unfortunately, they were in the minority.
Wild.
So the lesser charge was applied.
At least there's a fucking charge.
Thank goodness there's a charge, but like kind of kooky that it wasn't a higher charge.
Truly.
When the verdict was read, Linda had a complete breakdown in the courtroom.
Get the fuck over.
Linda. And she was removed. This is so
interesting to me. She was removed from the
courtroom and placed in the home of a local
woman who had been approved to
care for female prisoners between verdict
and sentencing. I have
never heard of that. I have
never heard of that. And who applies for that job? Now I'm very
interested in that. I feel like
that would be so many
implications come with that. Absolutely.
Are you going to hold me hostage? Who's this
local woman? She's brave. Someone should
interview her. Brason, in fact.
She's probably
fucking, she's probably like
a brick shit house. Like, don't fuck with her.
She's got to be. Like, you got it. Like, she
can kick your ass. I guarantee you.
She's not scared of anything. Yeah, she's not, she's not
frail. Or flail.
Or flail. She won't flail in, she's not frail.
Fair. Quarred. I've lost
the ability to speak. I don't.
Same. Save me as well.
I'm just very interested in this local
woman now. No, so was I.
We need to give her a backstory. I need to learn
more about her. Local woman? Who are you?
Who are you? Show yourself.
So later that day, reporters were told that Linda was in no condition to speak.
Oh, no.
Us either.
Poor Linda.
So her husband, Sam, spoke on her behalf.
Briss.
Sam told them that her collapse quote resulted from the shock of the verdict since Linda had been fully confident that she would be acquitted.
Oh, no, it was the consequences of her very fucked up actions.
Can you imagine?
I'm so sad for her.
He added, the most unfortunate thing was the statement made in court tonight that Mrs. Hazard,
is at the end of her rope financially, she has ample funds as soon as she can get at them.
Yeah, she stole them from the people that she's been starving to death.
Exactly, yeah.
I also love that he was like, the most upsetting thing was that they said she was poor.
Yeah, they said she didn't have a lot of money.
She has so much money from those dead people.
Like, damn.
Jesus Christ, Sam, get it together.
Get it fully together.
But of course, true to form with his wife facing a very lengthy jail sentence,
his biggest concern was the insinuation that they were poor.
Yeah, unreal.
Yeah, he doesn't give a fuck.
He's like, we are not poor.
A few days later, Linda Hazard was back before the judge
where she was sentenced between two and 20 years of hard labor
at the state penitentiary in Walla Walla, which is a fun place to say.
Walla Walla.
And her license to practice medicine in Washington was permanently revoked.
Bye.
Hi, Mitch.
I also love, her husband was also, like, he's like,
how dare you say we're poor?
Because now I won't be able to get lots of ladies
because I think I'm poor.
Like, that was his only thought there.
I'm not poor.
It was not even like, don't say.
my wife is poor. It was like, don't fucking say I'm poor. Yeah, don't spread that around. Don't put that
around. I'm going to go out and date now. She's gone for a while. I'm out. My girl's at hard
labor. Yeah, that's Sam for you. Exactly. He was out anyway, even the whole time they were married.
So Linda would maintain her innocence forever and claim that she had always been working in the best
interest of her patients. Babe, no one believes that. Was that when you were vigorously slapping them?
Yeah, none among us. She would say that death was to be expected in a sanitarium. And in
fact, she had lost far fewer patients than most surgeons. She has some gall. She has the most
insane complex about actual medical professionals. She sure does. I'm like, you should stop
because it's so obvious how jealous you are. And how inferior you feel to actual medical
professionals, like you should stop. You got a stop girl. She's like, surgeons kill people all
the time. It's like, and so do you. They're not starving people though. No, they're not. It's a little different.
They are actively trying to save people's lives.
There are accidents.
Yeah.
And then there's straight up starvation.
Yeah.
And vigorously slapping people and giving them hours long enemas.
And allowing them passing out.
Young female patients to be bathed by male attendance.
Like, let's not.
Do you want to keep talking about surgeons some more?
She did.
She sure did.
She said any financial compensation she received directly or indirectly
was merely to cover the costs of patients.
health care.
No.
Or given as thanks for having provided them relief where others had failed.
Of course.
Doctors had failed.
You should always tip your doctor for saving your life.
Yeah, totally.
That's how that works.
Yeah.
As a show of commitment to her own treatment, she frequently spent long periods fasting in
her cell in Walla Walla in order to prove the value of the practice.
Go ahead, girl.
Yeah.
Go ahead, girl.
Yeah, get down.
Linda Hazard was released on parole on December 26, 1915.
after serving only two years.
What the fuck?
Two years.
Yep.
For reasons that remain unclear, everybody.
Just one year after her release,
the governor at the time, Ernest Lister,
gave her a full pardon.
She got a full pardon.
What was going on with them?
Big things.
What was going on?
That was my immediate thought as well.
What the fuck?
was going on with them.
Luckily, though, he was unable to return her medical license.
Ernest, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Yeah, something was definitely going on.
Why give this random ho a full pardon?
Like, literally.
Like, I'm sorry.
I reserve those words for women like this.
Yeah.
What?
What?
I need to.
That's one of those times when you go, you come out here and you explain.
You explain to me.
It was fukin.
You explained to me why the fuck you are not only fully pardoning her.
Are you kidding me?
But two, trying and failing to get her medical license back?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Come on.
Yeah.
Come on.
If you weren't fucking, that's canon now.
Because you made it certainly seem like you were.
You made it so weird.
There was no conceivable reason.
Ernest be so for real right now.
Truly earnest.
You were not earnest.
No.
So later that year, Linda and Sam moved.
to New Zealand, probably because Sam was like, I can cheat on you, but you can't cheat on me.
Yeah, no.
And she continued to promote herself as a doctor there and offered services as an osteopath and a
dietitian.
Wow.
Yeah, awesome.
When the authorities in Auckland became aware of the fact that she did not have an actual
license and was not even a doctor, she was arrested again and find in a scene that was
reminiscent of her early days of practicing in Minnesota.
Awesome.
Homegirl just spent forever in jail.
Yeah.
But not long enough at all.
In 1920, she and Sam moved back to a little.
Lala Washington, where she was determined
to rebuild her sanitarium.
Girl, give it up.
Which she dubbed a school for health.
Give it up.
She didn't.
Just name it what it is.
And there she continued to treat patients
through a quote-unquote variety
of alternative health practices,
which remained a legal practice
thanks to the various loopholes in law.
Cool.
Yeah. Awesome.
She oversaw operations of the Institute
until 1935.
would it burn to the ground due to unknown causes?
I don't know if those causes are completely unknown, everybody.
It burned to the ground.
I'm going to go out of a limb and say the causes are not entirely unknown.
One thing about me is, I love that.
One thing about me is, that's karma.
One thing about me is as long as no one is hurt.
Yeah, that's a-okay.
Yeah.
Get everybody out.
Yeah.
See that building burn.
Yeah.
Bye.
But then in her early 70s, Linda's health began to fail.
Oh, no, but she knows how to fix it.
Thank goodness.
Yeah, she turned to the same treatments that she once provided her patients.
Yeah, she has a miracle cure.
Long periods fasting and the hope of curing herself.
Cool.
But in the end, those hopes were dashed.
What?
On June 24th, 1938, in the most ironic twist of fate, Linda Hazard died from starvation.
Linda Hazard.
died from her miracle cure, which was really just starvation.
That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, that's, that's that's that's that's that's.
Yeah. That's what that is. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you, you, you reap what you sow, my friend, you sure do. You starved other people claiming it was a miracle care.
You stole their shit. Stole all their shit. Lied to their family members. Yeah. Possibly, possibly working
with a corrupt mortician.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the saddest thing is
nobody even knows
how many people died under her care
because not everything was documented.
Yeah.
And she got away with it a lot of the time.
Yeah, that's why she was doing it for so long.
That's why she continued to do it.
So that is the story
of Linda Hazard and her fucked up life.
That is horrifying.
The fact that she died of starvation, though,
is just like full-cirk.
that's
I mean I just
I could never
I could absolutely never
no I just can't
I can't I can't imagine any of this
I literally can't imagine any of this and again
the knowing that these people were like
literally desperate to just feel
even slightly better
and they went to this place
thinking that it was someone who genuinely
wanted to help them feel better
and they put all their faith and all their
you know, everything into them and all their trust. And these people were the worst
fucking people. Yeah, this was a nightmare facility. Like to go through chronic pain,
chronic illness, whatever they were going through, and then get to this place and be
literally starved and tortured. That's the thing to, like, that's even more pain and suffering
that they dealt with on top of whatever conditions they have. Like, while they're already
feeling horrible, now they're being tortured and starved on top of it. And abused.
apparently like hit yeah and shit like what this whole i had never heard of this before this shook me
to my core i had heard something very i don't remember where i heard it but i heard like a super
quick like thing about it once and i was like what is that yeah it's messed up yeah it's just so sad
i just don't know how people are capable of these things i really don't yeah so yeah do something
kind today. Yeah.
Truly.
Don't be a shit bag.
Don't hurt people. Don't hurt people.
It's true. And you're not hurt.
You're not. You're fine. You're doing great.
You're good. You're awesome. I believe in you.
You're going to be doing awesome things.
Go get yourself a treat.
Yeah. I had a donut this morning.
Get yourself a treat. Yeah. Whatever a treat is to you, get it. Yeah.
It can be anything. Anything. Yeah.
If you think a fucking bowl of strawberries is a treat, go get a treat.
bowl of strawberries is a treat it is especially fresh strawberries fresh strawberries you put a little
bit of sugar on top or a little whipped cream bitch you took the word out of my mouth again go get you
some old treat and then just you know what on top of angel food cake oh just make it a strawberry
yeah do that okay absolutely do that yeah we love you and we hope you keep listening and we hope
you keep it weird but not as weird as linda and her starvation heights fucking project
from nightmares.
Yeah, she sucks.
She is a cuckoo-hoo bitch.
So to Sam.
Sam's the veil.
Everybody's horrible.
Yeah.
Nobody's good except Margaret and Uncle.
And Uncle.
Yeah.
And Uncle Herbert.
Uncle Herbert.
Uncle Herbert.
Uncle Herbert.
Uncle Herbert to the rescue.
Uncle Herbert.
Oh, me.
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I'm going to be.
I'm going to be able to be.
I'm going to be the
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm
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