Morbid - Jasmine Richardson & Jeremy Steinke Part 2

Episode Date: May 19, 2019

Welcome back for Part 2 of the horrifying case of Jasmine Richardson and Jeremy Steinke. In this installment, we discuss the interrogations, the trials and the sentencing for these two idiots. Remain prepared, because it stays awful until the end. Sources: https://www.mamamia.com.au/jasmine-richardson/ https://allthatsinteresting.com/jasmine-richardson Runaway Devil: How Forbidden Love Drove a 12-Year-Old to Murder Her Family by Robert Remington https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/jasmine-richardson-walks-free-a-decade-after-she-and-boyfriend-massacred-her-family/TDLBX4NMVXCY5UGVSRISBITUTE/ Make sure you go check out our sponsors Murder Apparel and use our code MORBID for a special weirdo discount. Also, while you are there, get yourself an exclusive Morbid design shirt. MurderApparel.com Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, weirdos. I'm Elena. My name's Ash. And this is really morbid. It sure fucking is. Welcome back to part two. I'm really surprised you're here. Part two of Jasmine Richardson and Jeremy Stank. She's 12. She's 12. He's 23. He thinks he's a 300-year-old werewolf. He likes blood. He does. He believes in it. He writes poems. He does. Bad ones. Listen to part one. Yeah. Do it. It's wild. Yeah. If you're here, for some reason if you started here. Go back to part one real quick. Turn back now. Turn back now.

Go to part one real quick because it's going to set you up. So I think we're just going to dive right into it. I'm about to dive. You do that every time. I love it. I just can't stop. I can't stop. I can't stop.

So yeah, we're not going to do any business because you know what? This is your part two and you want to get back into it. I know you do. One, two, three, go. So when we last left you, we told you. we told you about the brutal murders of the Richardson family, Mark and Deborah the parents and eight-year-old Jacob. Yes.

By Jeremy Stanky and their own daughter, 12-year-old Jasmine. She's 12. After the brutal murders, the two were really gross. They had sex. Hate it. They went to a rager. They were making out with each other in front of people. and then they blatantly admitted to a guy named James Wally

that they murdered her whole family. And Jasmine left off with the awful statement of my little brother gargled. Yeah, she slit his throat. She's a cunt. Yeah. So here we are. So at this point, police thought Jasmine was missing or kidnapped. Yeah, because her whole family's dead.

Because when they saw a family photo at the scene and clearly saw she was not there. So police went to her school to get more info about her, and her guidance counselor took out a very large file. Sandra Richards, basically. Well, she offered to look in her locker for them because the police would need a warrant for that, but a guidance counselor legally can do that. Oh, I never knew that. Yeah, I didn't know that either. Well, maybe it's only in Canada. Yeah, I don't know.

So Richards peaked inside the locker. She began flipping through a binder and a piece of paper file. out. What it was was a hand-drawn 12-panel cartoon strip that was a bunch of stick figure people, three, to be exact, being burned alive while two other stick figures watched, laughing. In it, one stick figure is running towards a vehicle labeled Jeremy's truck. In the first panel, it's labeled, let's go for a walk, and the two adult stick figures are walking with a child, while another larger child stands to one side with a frown on her face and exes for eyes.

Uh-huh. In another panel, an angry stick figure pours gasoline into a water sprinkler, and it says mohaha. Uh-huh. In the following panel, the little stick figure plays on a swing with a big smile on her face while the adults watch from a picnic table. And they say, quote, oh, no, we're covered. in gasoline.

And then the next panel reads, ah, I'm being burned alive. Help, help. My flesh is being burned off. And it shows the family being burned alive. Jesus Christ. And another with a caption reading, quote, the unimaginable pain.

And in the last panel, two stick figures are seen laughing and saying, quote, aha, you're burning alive. What the fuck? So, I mean, if I saw this, I'd be like, I don't want to jump to conclusions. But I think she wanted to kill her whole family. But like, I'm getting a vibe. She's ill.

I'm getting a vibe. The guidance counselor. Yeah. Yeah. She was 12. I said it in the first part, but if you're new here, remember she's 12 because it's really easy to forget. So the guidance council also found a note.

that said, quote, may the hatred and anger built of blazing infernos fill you and overcome you. May the pains of a thousand tortured souls come upon you like scalding blade and eclipse all their noble feeling. May your hopes, dreams, and happiness fall into the swirling pit of despair never to return. May your peace of mind and safety be gone to you to be forever afraid and allied. May the black overcome you in the pain never ending. May all you love be stolen and destroyed just out of reach to never again feel such joys. Amen. I have never been that angry at someone.

No. Never. And then you ended amen. Amen. Thank you for coming to my sermon. That will be all. Like, wow. Shit.

So when they saw that, they were like, yeah, that's something. They were like, she didn't run away. But like, you know what? I'm beginning to think she wasn't kidnapped. Or that's what I meant to say. She did run away. That this was probably something to do with her. Wow.

So blood evidence was a big part of this case. Which is kind of funny because it's like Jeremy was so obsessed with blood. Yeah, exactly. He really like fucked him over in the end. He really believed in it. So I'm a big proponent of blood. Yeah, he's a big believer. So the investigation brought in a bloodstain expert, Sergeant Serge Laroque.

Yes. And he really like went to town on this because there was a lot to work with. Anyone named Serge always goes to town. Yeah, Serge is just, he's ready for it. He is. So outside of Jacob's bedroom, he identified, quote, 100 plus projected stains on the carpet. In the bedroom, he found 75 plus projected stains on the floor. And he found transfer stains at the foot of the bed. He said all of this was consistent with, quote,

A bloodletting event from a source moving around the room. Oh. Which means this kid was running around the room while also bleeding frantically. I hate that. He concluded that Jacob was attacked in the hallway outside his room. And then Jacob moved back into the bedroom where he said, quote, after a fair amount of activity he died on his bed. Oh.

Debra, he said, did not really move from where she was found. So she probably died a little quicker. Yeah. And this is really sad this part, so just like brace yourself. This whole thing is really sad. One of the sergeants that was on the scene said, quote, I'm an ex-military guy. I'd seen some bad stuff before.

It was the worst crime scene I had ever been in. Wow. And he said, you could tell the dad was a warrior. Dad fought to his last breath right to the end. You could calculate how long the death fight took by looking at the scene. And he also said, quote, the most touching thing was the lightsaber in Jacob's room. No.

I suspected he grabbed it and tried to use it with the blood all over it. Oh my God. Yeah. So they said like he may have picked that up to try to defend himself. Oh my God. Yeah, it's pretty awful. Oh, that is that like hit me in a real way. It like really gives me the visual of that.

They found a tiny little blood smear on the light switch in Jasmine's room. This indicated to them that it was not an entree. but someone who knew the house because he said usually intruders don't turn on and off lights. Right. They also knew it was the work of at least two people since the father had fought so hard. They were like one person. Could not have done this on the house. All of it.

Like all of it together. At 12 years and six months of age, Jasmine was the youngest person that could ever be charged with homicide in Canada. Wow. So at this point, she was now a murder suspect. Holy shit. like after they found that really great cartoon she wrote and all the other stuff and also the blood on the light switch so now her picture was sent out everywhere oh wow James Wally saw this James Wally is the one that they confessed to he decided to go to the police finally somebody does

so he was not the only one though uh Jordan who he had initially asked to help him and Jordan was like, no, he showed up at the station too. And he said, Jeremy asked him to help with the murders, so he admitted all that. Wow. And James was the one who said that he admitted that he, quote, gutted them like a fish, and that he said, Jasmine said her little brother gargled that he's, as he was dying. Oh my God, I hate that so much. Around 7 p.m. that night, the murders were being broadcasted and shit, so Jeremy and

Jasmine were starting to get nervous. Their friend Kaylee, who was the teen runaway, and the one that introduced him. them. Yeah. Was making plans with, this is kind of confusing, but it's just like to set up the scene. She was making plans with another friend Casey, who was at the party with them and a dude named Mick to go to a town called Leader, where Mick lived. And the runaway Kaylee was hoping to stay at his house.

So Casey asked Jeremy and Jasmine if they wanted to take a ride with them. She said, she thought they wanted to run away together. So she was like, why don't she just come with us? And she didn't know that they had. She didn't know. The whole family. So they laid down in the back of the pickup truck that they were taking. And so it was these, it was Kaylee Casey Coke dealer's girlfriend, Jenny, and Mick in the front of this car.

And Jasmine and Jeremy were in the back of the truck. Okay. Is Mick the Coke dealer? No. Oh, okay. His girlfriend just happened to be there? Yeah, exactly. Got it.

He just, like, happened to be there. So a constable named Aaron Ewert was a rookie on his first shift in leader. No. And he had seen a bulletin put out Sunday evening, April 23rd by the Medicine Hat police that said be on the lookout for suspects, wanted in a triple homicide. And they said they could be going that way. Right. They did this because friends of Jeremy and Jasmine had told the police that that was likely where they were going to go. So the friends started like trickling into what people know.

Now, this rookie cop drove around town in his car. and he was just like on the lookout. Around 2 a.m. After he was looking around, he didn't see anything. He headed home. But then he woke up early at like 5.30 a.m. And he was like, oh shit, they probably are going to need gas. Smart rookie.

Right? So he went to like the biggest gas station in town. Okay. He knew what they all looked like and what the car looked like. So he just parked at the corner that gave him like a view of the gas station and just like hung out there. Mm-hmm. Well, a small pickup truck with Alberta plates matching the description of the vehicle happened to pull up to one of the pumps at 7 a.m.

Oh, so he waited there a while. Yeah, he did. And three teenage girls spilled out of the front and they went inside the gas station. These girls were Casey Kaley and Coke dealer's girlfriend, Jenny. Okay. The girls said later that then when they went into the gas station, they noticed a newspaper with the news. of Jasmine's family's murders splashed across the front.

Oh, no. And there was a big picture of Jasmine right on the front. Oh, shit. So was this the day after the murders? Yeah. Wow. Well, no, this was actually...

Two days afterwards. Because this was the morning after the party that they went to the day after the murders. Got it. The girls were thinking... So when they saw that, they were like, oh my God, did someone break into her house and do this?

So they bought this so... I love this. They're like, oh, her whole family got mass sickered. Let's just grab some food and some drinks real quick and then we'll go out. I can't. So they bought some food and drinks and they bought the newspaper. And when they went back out, they showed the paper to Jeremy and Jasmine. Oh my God. So Jasmine giggled when she saw it. And Jeremy like was laughing and said, quote, that doesn't even look like you. It's literally a photo of her. Oh my God. So Casey was like, quote, if I were my family, I would have totally freaked out.

but there was no reaction whatsoever. So one of the girls was like, oh, I see what's happening now. And then she was like, then she said, holy shit, we got to get you out of here. Because she's like, yeah, get out of here. Because she's like, what the hell's going on? So according to Casey, Jasmine was like, listen. She said, quote, she told us to tell the cops that Jeremy had picked her up at 11 p.m. the night before to stay at Coke dealers.

And that Jeremy and Coke dealer got into a fight because they were drinking. And that was supposed to give an alibi And also account for Jeremy's black eye Which he got from Mark Yeah Now these kids pulled into a high school parking lot And we're trying to figure out what to do next And at this time

The girls were like, yeah, they definitely did this Right They were like fuck. But they didn't know what to do So they decided to take a nap With two Right murderers Yeah that's what you would do, right? No

Meanwhile, the rookie cop was following them from a distance. I never knew all of this. And he called in backup from another cop, Officer Galant, I think his name was. When he showed up, the two of them made a plan to ambush the truck. This is great. When they did, they discovered their suspects under the blanket where Jeremy and Jasmine minus her pants. Oh, God. She's fucking 12.

So at 7.51 a.m. they ordered Jeremy. and Jasmine out of the truck. Jasmine was handcuffed and put in the back of a police vehicle with the three other girls, and Jeremy was put in the back of another car. As he was put in the car, he yelled, quote, tell my mom she can have my TV in that I love her. Priorities. Priorities. She can have my TV.

First, take my TV. Yeah, she can totally have my TV. Now, as they were being driven to the station, Casey, Jenny, Kaylee, and Jasmine were starting to worry not that they were going to be charged with murder and accessory after the fact, but that Jeremy might be charged with rape. That's what they were worried about. According to Casey, quote, Jasmine had her pants off and the cops wouldn't let her put them back on. So one of the girls told Jasmine that she should just claim the cops raped her.

Oh, that's really awful. They joked that they might have to be searched. And according to Casey, Jasmine said, quote, It wouldn't be sexy even if it was a hot cop because I still like Jeremy. Like this is the conversation they're having. I don't have a response for that. My brain just melted. And they put, so they got back to the station.

They put Jasmine in a holding cell. Jeremy was still in the back of the other cop car. and the police were taking the other three girls into the station office. When they went back into the car to get them, Jenny had kicked in the plexiglass divider in the police car's front seat. And they were all yelling, fuck off and fuck you at the police officers. Like that's going to help you?

When they got into the station, while the officers were dealing with Jasmine and Jeremy, the girls started making unauthorized phone calls. They were all being video recorded, by the way, because it's a police station. And Kaylee stole notepads and pens out of a drawer and shoved them down her pants and up her shirt. Like, why? So these are the kind of kids that are, yeah, that we're dealing with.

And you know what Jenny says? Quote, we were all pretty scared. Yeah, it sounds like you were pretty scared. And she said, quote, I was scared. I was not a very nice person at all. I was provoking the police laughing at them, calling them names. I was mad. I was in a police station and they were saying I was arrested for murder.

So that's how you act. Like that makes sense. While this is all going on, the autopsies of Deborah, Mark, and Jacob are underway. It makes me really sad that they're dead. I know. Forensic pathologist Dr. Craig Litwin was performing the autopsies. They each took two hours. Mark's from 9.30 a.m. to 11.30 a.m.

Deborah's from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. and Jacobs was the next day. The first thing they look for at autopsy is usually lividity. This was discussed in my solo morbid episode, so go listen to that. Yes. But basically, it is when the blood falls to the lowest point of gravity and turns purplish. When a body is laying in a spot for a long period of time. Lividity was actually not evident at all during their autopsies.

And there's one reason for this. Most of the blood had already flowed out of their bodies before they were even brought in. Holy shit. Yeah. That much blood. Yeah. In Jacob's case, he... He was 4 foot 4 inches, 68 pounds, and most of his blood loss came from a large wound to his throat that severed his thyroid gland, jugular vein, and larynx.

They said basically, so the carotid arteries are the ones that spurt when you see like movies and stuff like that. The jugular doesn't. The jugular is like a slow flow. So this poor kid slowly let out. he also had four other stab wounds, two to the right side of his face. Oh my God. Each slightly more than 2.5 centimeters deep and two other stab wounds to the left side of his chest. And it was Jasmine that stabbed him, right?

That's what everybody is thinking because Jeremy admitted to everything else, but he would not admit to that. In the way that she, when she's like laughing, being like he gargled. That's really horrible. Jacob also had patiquial hemorrhages on the inside of his eyelids and mouth. What does that mean? Which is indicative of strangulation. It's basically blood vessels that break when you get strangled.

Like you'll see patiquial hemorrhaging and a lot of choking deaths. So that's, which is consistent with her trying to strangle him first. Of course, the pathologist couldn't say definitively that Jacob had been choked because the wound to his neck was so large that it literally like, You couldn't find any evidence. Mark, the father, was 5 foot 10 inches. He weighed 207 pounds. The pathologist found 24 stab wounds on him.

Wow. Yeah. He had one to his right abdomen, which was 11 centimeters deep. Holy shit. He had one to his right lower back that entered his right lung and caused 600 milliliters of blood to enter his chest cavity. Deborah was 5 foot 3 inches and weighed 143 pounds. She had 12 stab wounds.

The most significant one punctured her aorta. She had ones that punctured her lungs as well and one that penetrated her stomach. Oh, God. Mark and Deborah had a lot of defensive knife cuts on their hands and arms. And they both would have had what he said was, quote, several moments of purposeful activity after suffering their most severe wounds. So none of them went quick. They all had several moments of trying to do something.

I really didn't need to know that. Mark was stabbed 24 times, but they said no one wound caused death. They said it was literally massive bloodloughs. That's really awful. Yeah. Deborah's fatal wound, though, was the one to her aorta, which would have, once the aorta is hit, that will be quick. What is that again? That's the biggest vessel in your body.

Okay. Now it was interrogation time for Jasmine and Jeremy. 10.30 a.m. on Tuesday, April 25th was when Jasmine was interrogated. Here's the problem. Interrogating underage children is very tough. Canada's Youth Criminal Justice Act does help with this because it provides rights and protections specifically for children. Right. Under it police.

Exactly. Police have to read a special youth. youth waiver in caution form, which is known as form 9.1, and they have to have these underage suspects sign it every time that they talk to them. Okay. It basically is saying, it's basically because a young person is usually going to be more influenced by authority figures. Right. They won't, they probably won't understand their legal rights as much as an adult will. Yeah. Teenagers are also way more susceptible to subtle threats.

And somebody who's younger may be more inclined to make a statement, even if it's not true, just to please the person and authority. Right. So they don't want any of that happening because that ruins cases. Right. Form 9.1 has 15 steps that police have to follow in reading this person their rights. Every time they talk to them. And police will skip to like different sections of the form depending on what answer. the suspect gives them.

Okay. This reminds me of MCAS. Yeah, in each section, they have to end it with like, do you understand? Yep. So these two police officers that were going to interrogate Jasmine decided that the best tactics you used on her was a combo of father figure and cool guy. Okay. So the first cop.

Cool guy. Cool guy. The first cop, Officer Cole, tried the fatherly thing because he, He had like gray hair and like a mustache. And he was like, I'm not the cool guy. Right. But Jasmine just like cried the whole time. And he said it wasn't like an emotional cry.

It was like a, I'm trying to trick you to leave. Cry. So shortly after 11.30 a.m. Officer Cole and the second officer Sheehan decided that Sheehan was going to go in and be the cool guy. Sheehan apparently was a handsome 35 year old with dark hair. blue eyes. Was he got a couple? He had like a pair of cool glasses.

Cool guy glasses. He was a cool guy glasses. So when he went in there, he introduced himself as Chris and immediately just started like lightheartedly teasing her and like acting like a cool friend instead of a cop. Oh man. He was like, oh, what's in here for? Well, she was like drawing like writing or something like that and he or and he like pointed

and said like, oh, you write S is weird. Like acted like her peer kind of thing. Yeah. And she immediately fell for it. Because she's 12. And she said, quote, I like you. You smell good. That's wow.

Which is how fast we turn. Very Jasmine. She told a bunch. But do you have a llama? Do you have a llama though? Because this could be trouble. Do you have a vial of blood to give me? Because this won't work.

So she told a bunch of different stories about the night of the murders that all took her completely out of the guilty situation. Of course. But with a lot of pressing, she finally broke. She said she originally was trying to strangle Jacob so that he would pass out and not feel pain. That's why she said she was... Yeah. She said, quote, I went in his bedroom. I was trying to calm him down.

Jeremy came upstairs and he began to say, we need to kill him. You can't just leave him. I had a knife in like, I was really having a hard time. He was really like pressuring me. I stabbed him in the chest. I slipped or something and I couldn't do it. And I was trying to wash it off me. And the cop said, and Jeremy did Jacob because you couldn't, and she nodded.

Okay. So the cop said, you stabbed him once in the side of the chest and got blood on you. And she said, yes, he was still moving around. And he said, he was crying. And she said, he was saying, I'm too young to die. He said that a whole bunch of times. Oh, God. And then the cop said, where did the knife come from?

and she said one from the kitchen was in my bedroom from before. I took it into my brother's bedroom. I didn't know what I was going to do, but I didn't want my brother to suffer. I knew he couldn't go through life without his parents. He's already so scared about other stuff. And Jeremy, she said, quote, did it out of love for me. Oh, you great little thing. So the cop then said, why don't you write a letter to your parents apologizing?

And that will be your sentence. This is a tactic because you can put it in evidence. Right. So he's like, why don't you go ahead and write a confession? Why don't you admit it? So what she wrote, oh God, is quote, Dear my loverly parental units. Wow, she's an asshole.

I am writing in response to the events of Sunday morning. A terrible thing happened. Something I feel was all my fault. You must know I love you all dearly and are in my prayers. I wish peace upon your souls in the summerland. That's a Wiccan thing, by the way. To my little brother, I apologize for letting you hear what happened, also for causing you any pain and for frightening you so much.

To my parents, I hope you know that though all this has happened, I loved you the whole time. I wish I could take everything back. I wish it hadn't happened. I wish you were with me right now because now I have no one. I pray you can forgive me and Jeremy too because he was under the influence of mind, altering substances and did it out of love for me.

He is most possibly the kindest person I've ever met. What? His wish being for my happiness. Through all the fights and hatred exchanged, I still love you. I am sorry my sarcasm was taken to heart. I never meant to harm you. I pray you can be at peace somehow. He has a lot of inner work to do.

She does. Now, then in an unprecedented move, The cop convinced Jasmine that he would give notes to Jeremy from her if they wanted to communicate that way. Wow. This guy's a genius. Yeah. And according to the chief, this whole thing, it was like ground, like no one's ever done it. He said, quote, in my experience in Canadian policing, I think this is the first time it was used involving murders.

Most people clam down once a murder charges on them. Right. Not them, though. Well, because they're so dumb. Yeah. So Wednesday, April 26th at 840 a.m. was when Jeremy was interrogated. Right. He admitted that he did it to our parents because he said he freaked out and was high on drugs.

He also said he tried to convince Jasmine not to do it before it all happened, but he said he would do anything for. Right. So without prodding, Jeremy then was like, oh, and Jasmine did Jacob. Like they didn't ask him. He just was like, by the way, I didn't do Jacob. Okay. So he said, quote, I went upstairs. I watched her cut her own brother's throat.

And they said, why did she do that? And he said, because she knew it had to be done. I didn't touch him. I was pacing. Then she came over and gave me a hug. I had to go for fresh air. I couldn't take it anymore. After I got out of the shower, she showed up in a cab.

I said, we have to get out of here. We have to leave. So then they were like, well, Jasmine says you killed Jacob. Yeah. And he said, quote, she cut his throat, she cut his throat. He like shouted. And then he said, I swear to God she cut his throat. I didn't want to kill anyone.

And he began hitting the concrete block wall of the room that he was in. And then he said he was really shocked at her reaction to the murders. And he said, quote, she wasn't crying. She didn't look very upset. Oh. He's like, I'm actually really scared of her. Yeah, he's like, she's actually terrifying. So the cops gave him a pat of paper.

And they were like, you want to answer Jasmine's note? And he was like, yes, I love with herself. So their notes back and forth were ridiculous. Of course. One of Jasmine said this, Dear my lover Lee Basante. That's a Basante. No idea.

Is it like a croissanti? It's exactly what my foot is so asleep right now. Please don't be sorry. I'm the one who needs to be begging your forgiveness. If only we ran, yes. but don't obsess on what could have been. In due time, we shall have our castle. I am not whole without you.

I love you with everything I am. I'll never stop and my promises shall be kept. However desolate it seems and shall become, take it one day at a time. It can only get so bad before it gets better. I will be with you in spirit. I hope you're doing all right, however large a task. Please don't stress out too much. Having your sanity might be helpful.

More than anything, I wish to be with you and hold you again. But until that time comes, no, I love you. XO, XOXO, XO, enjoy and sorrow, my sweet 666, jazz. Yo, she's not 12. She's a demon from hell. 100. So then Jeremy was like, yeah, I'll write back to that. And he was like, Tee-Hee-Hoo, rolling on the floor laughing, X-O.

Pretty much. He started it. Blood. Dear Cuddle Bunny. No. Did he? He referred to her as that. Cuddle Bunny.

Wow. I'm sure that you are right. what's done is done. You need not ask for my forgiveness. Indeed, in due time, our empire shall be complete. What? Before you, I was half And now that I am whole I can't go back to being half You're the one that I breathe

You're my moon when it breaks Through the clouds at night You're all that I need I long to feel your soft skin I yearn for your kisses For they could get me high I hope that you stay true to your words My entire faith has been bestowed upon you

With your words I shall remain strong Sometimes I have trouble sleeping at night But I'm sure the thought of you before we get through the nights. Don't even know what that means. What? In due time, we shall be together once again. But until that day arrives, stay strong, keep hope, and have faith.

I love you with all my heart and soul. Never forget that, okay, my love, till we speak again. X-O-X-O-X-O-X-O-X, Jeremy. You are the moon that breaks through the clouds. That was funny. In one of the letters after that, Jeremy proposed marriage. But she's 12, so I don't know if that's. It's going to work out for them.

I know love birds. Jasmine agreed. Great. So they were engaged now. Cool. So that's nice. Awesome. Meanwhile.

I don't know where to go with my life right now. Jeremy, like they're able to make some phone calls in prison. Can they call each other? You can't call another prison. No, they can't call each other right. So he decided to use those phone calls to call a 14-year-old girl named Morgan. Uh-oh.

That he knew from the mall. I'm screaming. That he knew from Hot Topic is what you. Because Morgan was literally obsessed with him And would hold vigil outside of the jail for him Shut the fuck up like Arkelly people Yeah she wasn't the only one A shit ton of underage like 12, 13, 14 year old girls were obsessed with him

He's the white Arkelly He had like they had like weird devotion to him They were all sit outside the courthouse and sob and hug each other It was like Bundy's followers but like goth What? Yeah In fact He's ugly

I just have to say that. Okay. I'm saying he's ugly in every way you can be ugly. In fact, on the search... Any is a murderer. Well, is that. Not only are you ugly. That's what I mean.

He's ugly in everywhere. Not only are you a murderer, but you're also ugly. Yeah. In fact, on the social media sites that they were all active on, like the vampire freaks and all that, friends were writing that they would mosh for Jeremy every day. Yeah. They were like... What? Jeremy will mosh for you.

Oh my God What the fuck? Where did all your brain cells collectively go? Shit! Do you want to hear a side note story of banter? Sure. One time I got, this was actually pretty recent. People were moshing at a concert that I was at, which was not moshable music at all,

if you look at who I am as a human being. And this girl headbutted me in the chest so hard, and I was Instagram storying it, and all of a sudden at the end, you just hear me go, literally it was really painful and I got a bruise that's an amazing story I wonder if she was moshing for Jeremy she was moshing for Jeremy she's moshing for staking I really questioned now if she was because she was

she was moshing so hard because she was doing it for jeremy stanking it all makes sense now wow well I feel I felt like I was going to get the up for his second. You're part of this now. How's it feel? I always was. I always was. I never was. I was going to say, please tell me you never were. Oh, that's funny. Oh, that's funny. Mashing for Jeremy.

She was. Well, Jeremy's like, like super dumb. And he, besides that hasn't been heavily established. Yeah, like, besides the huge digital footprint, they both. Besides the huge digital footprint, that they both left everywhere about this. Jeremy was heard speaking to another inmate by prison guards. Good. Saying, yeah, she did the eight-year-old and I did her parents.

Oh. It was all her idea, but when someone you love asks you to do something, you do it. No, you don't. And then he said, quote, I'll tell you straight up, man. Her dad came at me with a screwdriver and stabbed me in the eye. The eight-year-old will be with me the rest of my life. She's fucked up in the head and wanted them dead anyway. Whoa.

Yeah. He let out an even more incriminating statement when he was being transferred to another facility. The cops dressed one of their officers up like a prisoner and just put him in the prison van with Jeremy and wired the whole van. That must have been so fun. Right? He didn't even actually at the end of this, the guy who was pretending to be the prisoner said that he was like nauseous and sick to his stomach. I mean as a normal human being, I just don't understand. He didn't even have to pull it out of him either.

he just gave it all up. He admitted he was like, hey, have you heard about that triple homicide? And the guy was like, and he was like, yeah. And he was like, you're looking at him. Oh my God, literally go fuck yourself. And he like bragged about it. He said, he said his girlfriend's father fought like hell. He thought he bested him.

And then he said, quote, the last thing I remember was him laying on the ground asking me why. And I said, because you treat your daughter like shit. She wanted it this way. And fucking, and that was it. And then I went upstairs. and I watched my girlfriend cut her brother's throat. It didn't bother her at all either. She didn't cry or anything.

In fact, the next day, when we were on the fucking road, she was laughing about it. And he also said this hilarious thing to this cop. What did he say? He was like, me and Jasmine, me and my girlfriend, if we get out of here, we were planning on going to Germany and buying a castle. And this cop had to hold his shit together. I would have hysterically laughed all the way to the next facility. This cop is the best actor of our time that he held this shit together.

Because I would look like this currently. This is what I would look like. I'd be like, really stanky, you think that you're going to get out of here, go to Germany and buy a fucking castle. With what money, with what brain cells? Like really stanky? And with what dumb luck are you getting out of this one? You are a 23-year-old high school dropout. And you're going to go to Germany and buy a castle.

It just does drugs all day every day. And you're going to go to Germany and buy a castle. you and your 12-year-old girlfriend. I doubt his abilities to make a sand castle. I doubt that as well. And you think you're going to buy a lot? You're going to buy an actual castle. Oh, God, this fucker.

This fucker, man. I can't. Well, it was over a year before it went to trial for Jasmine. It was separate from Jeremy's trial because of her age. On June 4th, 2007, in Medicine Hats, Court of Queens Bench Courthouse in Alberta. So they were in a castle. They were. Yay.

Well, Canada has like, I love that they're like the crown and stuff. Like, you know, I mean like that. They have that cool stuff. Hashtag Royal. Good job, Canada. You guys are cool. A. The indictment had 90 witnesses and included Jeremy who could.

90 witnesses. Yeah. Wow. And Jeremy could be called to testify against her. Oh. She sobbed. But they said it wasn't like a sad sob. It was like a theatrical sob.

Of course. Did they dress her in something like so 12 year old? Yeah. Like a lavender shirt and like. But, yeah. She sobbed as they read out her three family members' names and the charges of first-degree murder for each of them. She entered a not guilty plea.

How? Because she's saying he did it. Her identity was supposed to be protected because of age, but it was let out and leaked anyways, of course. Yeah, because duh. They used the defense that she was a child who was under the control of a predator, i.e. Jeremy. Unfortunately, the justice claimed that the officers

didn't properly allow Jasmine rights to a lawyer when they got the confession. Oh, shit. So it was largely inadmissible, which was pretty devastating. It took 45 minutes for the forensic pathologist on the stand to describe just Mark's wounds. Whoa. Yeah. All the witnesses that were friends of Jasmine said the truth. They said she told her them many times that she wanted her parents dead.

Jeremy's friends also testified, and they said, we saw them making out at the party right after the murder. asking, they were like, they asked us for help with the murders. And the most damning was again, that statement that Jasmine made to James Wally that her brother gargled as he died. Oh, God. On Tuesday, July 4th, 2007, Jasmine testified in her trial. She basically said, everything she said about wanting to kill her family and wanting her family dead were just jokes.

Funny. And she was like, but I don't know why people took it seriously. That's crazy. And when they were, she was asked like, hey, so how come you guys had sex like right after you killed their whole family? Like if he killed your whole family and you weren't psyched about it, why did you sleep with him right after it? And she said, well, she was scared and he wanted to make her feel better. Oh.

And they were like, yeah, that doesn't answer the question. Like what? The prosecutor was really amazing at deep, like just poking holes in her story. I love that. And she said, so I'm just going to read you a couple of little things from her. testimony because it's funny. So she said, you go to the 7-Eleven after the murders. And she said, yeah.

They have a clerk there, right? Yeah. It's all lit up? Yeah. You don't ask that person for help? No. You don't say there's people at your house you might need help? No.

And then she said, when Jeremy left you stranded at the house, why didn't you check on your wounded family to make sure that they couldn't be helped? And she said, you don't see anything, you don't do anything to try and help them? And Jasmine said, how could I have helped them? And she said, you didn't even check on them, did you? And she said, no. At this point, you don't even know if they're dead for sure. And Jasmine said, I was thinking if they were dead for sure.

I was practically sleepwalking. And then the prosecutor said, you don't call an ambulance for them? No. You don't call 911? My parents have been attacked? No. You don't call any of your friends? No.

You don't call any of your friend's parents? No. You don't call anyone, any... You don't call anybody belonging to your parents? No. You don't run next door? No. You don't just sit down and cry?

No. And then she said, so you heard, so she goes, so you heard your father being killed downstairs. And she said yes. And she goes, so you don't call 911?

Right. No. You don't tell Jacob, call 911? No. You see your mother lying at the bottom of the stairs with blood on her chest? Yeah.

You don't rush up to her and try to help her? No. You see your father and Jeremy fighting? Yeah. And you don't say stop it? No, I was scared. I was so scared. I was terrified.

I was panicking and I couldn't think. And I was so scared. I didn't know what to do. It didn't even occur to me to call 911. Well, that's stupid. And so the prosecutor said, no. What occurred to you was to try to make Jacob go to sleep. Oh.

And she said yes. And she goes, you didn't say lie down in your bed, honey, go to sleep. Instead, you put your arm around his neck. And she said, yeah. And she said, and tried to choke him. Yeah. Pardon me, she said? And she made her say yes out loud.

And she goes, and you thought that somehow this was going to result in him going to sleep? And she said, yes. And she said, so you had the one arm around his neck. Yes. And he was clawing at it. Yes. Because he weighed what? Sixty-eight pounds?

I don't know what he weighed. Putting him to sleep wasn't working out so well, was it? No. So they literally just kept po- They were like, oh, so. You're sitting here telling me you were scared, you had no idea this was going to happen,

you had nothing to do with this, but let me just ask you about 400 questions of things you could have done to stop this and why didn't she do any of it? Also, if you were so scared, why were you choking your brother to go to sleep? Exactly. And I love that she's like,

so you didn't think to be like, calm down, honey, lie down, go to sleep to try to make him like calm down. And said you were like, first thought, I think I'll choke him. I think I'll choke them out. That makes sense. So that didn't go well for her.

She was pretty quickly compared to Carla Hamoka. Oh, wow. Like a mini Carla Hamoka. And the comparison makes sense. They both were described as having those like empty dead eyes that both of them do have. Carla Hulah's eyes are fucking crazy. And they both have emotionless responses to their family members' murder. Yeah.

And they both willingly gave over a younger sibling for their lover. to murder. That's true. So it only took four hours for jury deliberation. I'm surprised it even took that long. That's crazy. And they came back with a verdict of guilty of first degree murder on all three accounts. Yes, thank you. She was sentenced on November 8th, 2007. The judge said, quote, the circumstances surrounding these murders are horrific. It is difficult to imagine or conceive of a more horrific crime than this. The planned and deliberate murder of her parents, an only sibling by a 12 and a half year old young person. Because of her age,

they were restricted on what they could sentence her. Right. Which fucking sucks. Yeah. And it's restricted by the Youth Criminal Justice Act. He would only be able to put the max sentence of six years. Oh, my God. Followed by another four years conditional supervision in the community,

which is probation. Right. But he didn't want her to just serve jail time. He wanted her to be rehabilitated. So instead, he used a specialized sentence referred to as intensive rehabilitative custody and supervision, IRCS. It's basically a rehab program for really violent young offenders who are diagnosed as suffering from mental illnesses.

So was she diagnosed with the mental illness? She was, but we won't know what because her psych evals won't ever be made public because she was so young. But I want to know. The application was granted. So she was the youngest person in Canada to ever receive this sentence. they took into account the 18 months she was already in jail, gave her four years in custody to be followed by four and a half years of community supervision probation,

which is technically the max 10 years for her age. Wow. The judge said, Jasmine, you can never undo what you have done to your mom, dad, and little brother. However, what you can do is honor their memory by dedicating your life to becoming the woman your parents and brother would be proud of. She served her time at Alberta Hospital.

which is a psych facility. Mm-hmm. She was released in 2012. Wow. And as of 2017, her record was espunged. That is so messed up. It's like it never happened. That's so insane.

Oh, and her identity was changed for her protection. I know. What is awful is that she can get any job she wants. She can be a daycare worker, a kindergarten teacher, and she slit the throat of her eight-year-old little brother. And she never has to disclose these crimes to, anybody. Like, I'm sorry, but there's some crimes where you're just a fucking demon.

No, it's, the thought that Jason, that Jasmine is walking around right now living her life. Like, what is she doing? Yeah. And we'll never know, because she's got a new identity. Do you think she's still on the vampire site? No. I don't know. I think that was a Jeremy thing.

A rebellion and a Jeremy thing. Now she has nothing to rebel against. Well, Jeremy's trial was on November 14th, 2008 in the Calgary Courts Center. The taped conversation in the transfer van where Jeremy sang like a canary was admissible and used as evidence against him. His mom showed up to every court appearance wearing his Letterman jacket.

That he dropped out of high school for? Yeah, apparently he played like one semester of football. I was going to say like, why didn't she just wear his trench coat instead? No, she wanted to be like, this is my boy's letterman jacket. Jeremy took the stand in his own defense on December 2nd, and he admitted to the killings of Deborah and Mark, but said he freaked out and did it because he was just like bonkers off his rocker. He said he was there to get Jasmine and leave, but never intended to hurt anybody. Not true.

He also claimed he never intended to kill the parents, but oops, it was just self-defense, and oh man, it was just a weird coincidence that Jasmine also murdered her brother on the same exact night. Weird. Super strange. Just happened that way. Serendipitous. And they literally asked him that. They were like, so you're literally telling us that you, whoops, had to kill her parents.

And then, oh, my goodness, what a coincidence. She murdered her brother on the same night. And he was like, yes. And then he said, I would like to answer you in poem. I would like to howl at you. T. T. T.E. R.F.L.

X.D. Cuddle Bunny. So the jury deliberated for one day and convicted Jeremy of first-degree murder on all three. accounts. Oh, wow. He was sentenced on December 15th, 2008. He was sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole for 25 years. Did he get anything for, you know, like dating an underage girl? They were actually going to go for that, but then they thought this was more important, so they're not even going to. Oh, wow. Because it wouldn't really matter. Yeah. It's not going to. So the judge said, quote, I'm about to send you away to jail for a very long time, perhaps the rest of your life, and it's because of the horrific and unspeakable violence you've committed.

The Richardson home, where the murders occurred, was put back on the market. Oh, God. It was renovated and put back on the market. They're called, like, death homes. They're like a real, like, it happens. Yeah. People have to resell the home. And, I mean, I guess it was, I think it was bought at this point.

Literally, no thing to you. Well, it was broken into twice after the investigation was completed. Oh, really? Like, just people going in. to look and stuff. Someone had a seance in it too once because police found votive candles on a cookie sheet in Jacob's bedroom.

Oh. And I'm like, what kind of fucked up person did that? No, thank you. That gave me the hees. And I just want to end this by saying a couple things about what people said about Mark, Deborah, and Jacob. Yeah, I like their deaths. About Mark, they said, quote, he always made

time for his family, be it playing with his children, taking them swimming and camping as well as daily parenting. Mark was successful in every aspect of his life. Many you could look at, many could look at as a shining example of how to live. Somebody else said Mark was quiet, prudent and reserved, and mostly sought comfort in the sidelines,

perfectly content to let Deborah bask in the spotlight. He would sit back and watch her go about with a certain gleam in his eye, a smile of gratitude and appreciation for his Deborah. Oh, God, that one really hurt. They also said Mark absolutely adored Deborah, as she did him. He trusted Deborah explicitly and granted her trust to bring out the best in him. He possessed a whole lot of integrity. He was an honest man, sincere, tolerant, humble, generous, kind, and soft with his words. Believed in harmony and the most important thing was his family.

He also excelled in his career and took much pride in doing his job well. About Jacob, his eulogy said Jacob was a beautiful young soul, full of energy and with the heart of gold. He was a polite eight-year-old who had learned from his parents to give the biggest, warmest hugs. Oh, my God. They also said Jacob had learned many spiritual principles from his parents. He showed great character and his admiration for his favorite hockey player, Tiger Williams. He had such a boyish innocence in his cheering for two different hockey teams. Jacob was full of zest, a boy's boy, always active, whether it be playing baseball and catch with his friends, skateboarding, or simply being a Jedi night.

Oh, my God, stop. Oh, wow. So that concludes the murders perpetrated by Jasmine Richardson and Jeremy Stanky. Everyone take a deep breath. Oh, collective deep breath. Yeah, that's a intense one. So we hope you stick around. Yep.

Because Jeremy's in jail forever, so that's good. I'm so pissed that Jasmine's not. But Jasmine is not. I hope she goes to jail again. I hope she does too. I hope she stubs her toe every single day. I hope she always has to go to the DMV. Oh, I hope she always has steak stuck in her tooth.

Always. Every, like, can never get it out. And she has really tight teeth. Mm-hmm. That she can't use regular floss. Yeah. Yeah. What else?

Um, oh, I hope she gets stung by a bee. Yep. I hope that she consistently gets subpar coffee in the morning. I hope she always has gas pains. Always. And acne. An acne. An acne, yes.

And consistently needs root canals. Yes. Yep. She's always got some kind of fucking abscess. And I hope she has a gluten allergy. Oh, yeah. Because she doesn't deserve. I hope she has celiac's disease.

Yes. Yeah, for sure. And I hope she's very lactose intolerant. Wicked. Which contributes to the constant gas. Yes. Because I hope she has massive cravings for cheese at all times. And she can't eat it.

And I hope she's allergic to peanut butter. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a rough one. And I hope she, her, I hope her highlights are always stripy. You wish. And that's it. I hope she always has Kelly Clarkson hair.

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