Morbid - Listener Tales 88

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

Weirdos! It's Listener Tales, and you know what THAT means! it's brought to you BY you, For you, FROM you, and ALLLLL about you! Today, it's Ash's pick and we've got a batch of tales about signs! We have deceased matchmakers, a traumatic birthday, a story about gut feelings, Ghosts that use MORBID to haunt their loved ones, and a grandmother who sends signs for her granddaughter to stop smoking the devils lettuce. If you’ve got a listener tale please send it on over to [e-mail] with “Listener Tales” somewhere in the subject line :) Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, weirdos. I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And this is morbid. It is not growing your own lufus. Times have changed. It has times. They are a change in. They are. But yeah, hi. It's post- Thanksgiving festivities and we are. Feeling that. I think everybody is feeling that it was good. It was good Thanksgiving. Wow, you're like really underselling it, my dude. Yeah, I think, I mean, it went well. I cooked the turkey, so it worked. Oh, she cooked that turkey. It was prima. Well, a little herb, garlic rub, herbs, little herbs, little garlic, delicious, little butter. Everything that I was excited about just turned out so well. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm glad that it's over. It was fun while it lasted. Yeah, I'm really excited to spend the next week at your house eating your

leftovers. Exactly, which I have plenty. Sorry, I was just yawning while I said that. Wow, it's really happening. The hangover is happening. Hey, hey, hey, it's what's happening. Um, but yeah, I also just wanted to say how excited I was that, Wizard of All is Dark Secrets episode. Yeah, people were stoked on that. Seems like that was a hit. So that makes me happy because it was really interesting to do and I'd love to do more of them. But I was like, I'm going to try it out. Yeah. Throw it against the wall and see if it sticks. And if people hate it, I'm going to go, sorry, we missed. All right. Never doing that again. See you later. Captain. We got you. But it seems like I saw nothing but people being like, wow, that was fun and scary and awful. So it was all I can ask for with one of those episodes. Fun, scary, awful.

I was telling Drew like some of the things from the episode because he hasn't listened to it yet. And he was like, what? No, what? I didn't know that. I know now John is very frustrated because the girls wanted to watch it the other day. And they put it on. And as I was cooking, every once in a while, I'd just run into the room and whisper in his ear. That's asbestos. Suspestine. He loves because she had third degree burns. And he was like, can you stop? Can you stop ruining this?

Dorothy just got smacked. Like, literally after the, right before the scene, she got slapped in the face. Like, fucked. It literally happened. That's horrible. By Victor Fleming. I'm still really mad about that. Yeah, I'm mad about it.

Who slapsed somebody? I'm still mad about what Hollywood did to Judy. But, you know, we'll get into that another episode. In this episode, we're also kind of like in a Hollywood. Hollywood? Hollywood. No, are you ready? We're talking about.

Father, son, and house of Gucci. I am so excited. And honestly, go find the clip of Lady Gaga doing that. There's a TikTok of it. Please go find it. I think that's where it originated from. Because it is, it just will make your day. It's also one of those things that you, no matter how hard you try, cannot stop saying, like, fathered son and house of

Gucci. It's not even a song, but I can't stop saying. It's like stuck in my head, but it's like somebody saying something. It's not a song, but it's melodic. It is melodic. And it's gaga. And you know, everything she does is just art. Yeah, I mean, art pop. Gaga is how I met your fiancee. Fiance. Yeah, they literally met at a Gaga concert. We did. And I love that that's our villain origin story. Villan origin stories for the win. I love it. Me and Drew met outside of a Forever 21. And that's a true, favorite story. That is a true villain origin story. We met at the Natick Mall outside of a Forever 21 on Black Friday. Actually, our little, our meetaversary is coming up. I don't know how many years ago it was, because we were friends for a while. Adorable. Before we got together. Before we got

together. I love that for you. Yeah. But here we are. We're going to talk about Gucci. And we're going to talk about a pop culture hot commodity. Whoa. This is the murder of Mauritio Gucci. Mauritio. Mauritio. I think I'm saying that right. I looked up how to pronounce it. You did, I heard it. A lot of other people say it like in like 57 different ways, so that was my favorite.

Morizio. I was going to say the one I like the best was Morizio. And I can say it like that. Fuck yeah. Like I can't roll my ours or anything like that. So yeah, see, I can't do that. And it bumps me out. It makes me feel inadequate and sad.

So you're not inadequate. Your parents are. It's genetic. There you got. I was just going to say it's jeans. What, never mind. You're not inadequate. Your parents are.

All right, but you know, if you don't know what Gucci is, I'm sure most of you do, but just on the off chance that you don't. Gucci. It's one of those Italian-based luxury brands that's been around essentially forever. The brand was actually started in 1921. Oh, the Roar in 20s. Yes, and it was started in Florence, Italy. And it was a stroke of genius thought up by a man named Gucci-O-Gucci. Of course.

Yes. Yes, it was. Gucci-Goo-Goo-Gi. Nope, nope, never would I question them. obsessed. That's exactly correct. And that's where the double G logo comes from. Duh. Oh. Look at that. Duh. So he was the son of a leather craftsman, actually. And when he was a teenager, he was working at a hotel. And he was like loading the bags on and off the carriages for the guests. And while he was working one day, he was like, wow, a lot of this luggage is the ugly as fuck, direct quote. And he was like, it's kind of just like not practical at all. And my daddy-o is a leather craftsman. So like, I can probably figure out a way to make. my own luggage that's way better looking and way more functional. Yeah, you can, Gucci. And I could probably make a pretty penny doing it because my name is Guccio Gucci. You're right. So he got to

work with his idea. And like I said, in 1921, the first Gucci store was opened in Florence, Italy. So along the way, Gucci became like a family business, just like a lot of other powerful fashion houses. Prada. Versace. Versace. Versace. Look at that. Have you ever seen? showgirls that she says that? Oh yeah. It's Versace. Versace. So Guccio had four sons who he really, or excuse me, really kept up the business with him. They were Aldo, Vasco. Vosco, Hugo, I believe, and Rodolfo. One of our best men was Vasco. Hi, Vosco. Yeah. So they were the ones who later urged him to expand Gucci all the way to New York, because at the time that they wanted to go into New York, it was like, I mean, it always has been, but especially back then, it was like a fashion

hub. So, Guchio wasn't really interested at first. He was like, I really want to keep the brand in Italy. I want it to be a small brand, like family based, you know. But- He did not achieve that. He did not. It is not a small brand. He wanted it to be like, like, Italy-based and like, not for everybody. Yeah. He really wanted it to be like. Exclusive. Very exclusive. Very exclusive. Yeah. But the older he got, the more and more his sons kind of started to control things. And actually two weeks before he died, the first door opened in New York. Oh, wow. Yes. So they were definitely like going behind his back. Wow. It's like succession. It literally is, this whole thing is like succession. Yeah, like Italian succession. Just wait. But it ended up being a really good decision for them to go to New York

because at that point, Gucci took off globally. All the celebs were wearing Gucci shoes, especially in traveling with Gucci luggage, just Gucci this, Gucci that. It just sounds right. I fucking love Gucci. Like, it just sounds luxurious. Gucci. I wouldn't even have to see it. And I'm like, Gucci is definitely luxury. Yeah.

Like, that sounds luxurious. It also, like, is, like, synonymous with good. Like, people say, like, that's Gucci. Oh, yeah, that's true. Like, I used to say that all the time. I used to say that when I was a teenager. She did. All the time.

She did. I can't convert. Or, like, people would be like, what's Gucci? Like, what's good? Yeah. So there you go. Me. But, sadly, Guccio died in 1953.

and he left the family business to his sons. Now, two of those sons, Aldo and Rodolfo, had their own sons. So they were brought into the family business once they were old enough. Now, Aldo had three sons, Georgio, Paolo, and Roberto. Oh, I love it. Rodolfo had one son, Maurizio Gucci. Oh, I heard that name. You don't heard it.

I heard it. So together, Aldo shared 50% of the company with his sons, and Rodolfo owned 50%. with Morizio. Okay. But obviously the four people on one side of the company and two on the other, there were like some power struggles. Oh, for sure.

And honestly, um, the power struggles like weren't on like the part of like families, like one family versus the other. They were just like internally all against each other. Cool. Like all of them. In fact, at one point, Paolo was looking through the books and he saw that the U.S. sales were doing really well. But then he noticed that Gucci, the company wasn't really reflecting any of those.

sales. So he started doing some more digging into the matter. And he found out that his father, Aldo, had offshore accounts where he was hiding this money. So he could keep it all for himself and avoid paying taxes on it. Shady. So when Paolo found this out, he brought the matter to court. And his, I think his father was like 81 years old at this point and was sentenced to a year in Florida prison. Wow. He sent his father to prison at 81 years old. I bet that makes everybody. feel better about their thanksgivings with their own families. Probably. That was my goal, guys.

Damn. Yeah, nuts. Wow. And that was not the only time a member of the Gucci family would do some digging and try to get like another person in trouble for it. The brothers, cousins and uncles were always arguing in the, in the offices about how they wanted the company to run, what they should be doing, where they should be doing it. And a lot of the arguments really came down to the fact that one of them wanted to be

the head honcho. Of course. But there was five of them. So that's not really going to work out. And at the time, too, it's like the public was well aware of the turmoil. They were always in the tabloids for like some kind of lawsuit or some kind of argument, anything. But strangely enough, the brand didn't really suffer because of that. It just made it more popular.

Yeah. And it kept Gucci in the headlines, which honestly, that's what you want. You know? No press is bad press, I suppose. That's what they say in the business. Now, Rodolfo San Maurizio is the one that we're really here to talk. about. So he was born on September 26th, 1948, and Florence. And he was the only child to his parents Rodolfo and Sandra, who were silent movie actors. Of course they were. And fucking Gucciers.

Of course they were. Go off. Yeah. Now, unfortunately, when Mauritio was five, his mother actually passed away. Oh. And his father at that point became like really overprotective of him, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, for sure. And Morizio started working at the, in the past, package room of Gucci when he was 15 and kind of like learned the ropes and kind of just grew up in the environment. Yeah. So in 1970, flash forward, he's a young man. He meets the woman that he's going to marry.

Patrizia Regiani. Yeah. And they met at a party in Italy for the upper echelon. Patrizia came from a good amount of money, but nothing like the background that Maurizio had. Patrizia's mother, Silvana, was a waitress who had her with a man who pretty much just like walked out of their lives at the second that she came into the world. But when Petrizia was around 12 years old, her mother remarried to a man named Ferdinando Regiani, and he adopted Petrizia. Now, he was an entrepreneur who made a lot of money in the trucking business, so Petrizia never wanted for

anything. He bought her, like, fancy sports cars and luxurious fur coats. Like, she could play with the best of them. Now, when Marizio laid eyes on Patrizia for the first time, time, he allegedly said to his friend at the party, who was that beautiful girl dressed in red who looks like Elizabeth Taylor? Oh, what a compliment. She did look like Elizabeth Taylor. Elizabeth Taylor was such a, like, stun. Such a moment.

Oh, she was. Godge. And Petrusia later said, I didn't think much of him at first. He was just the quiet boy whose teeth crossed over at the front. So that's how they felt about each other. Damn. But what a, what a me cute. Really.

Truly, since he's crossed over in the front. Like, that's not his fault, man. That's nice. That's not his fault, man. I mean, somehow the two of them really hit it off and they began dating. I guess she got over his overbite. Yeah. I don't know. But two years after the party, they were both around 24 years old and they had decided they were going to get married.

There was a problem with that. Uh-oh. Morizio did not like Patricia at all. He thought she was a gold digger and he didn't want Maurizio to marry her. Wait, who didn't like Patrizia? Maritio's father. Oh, okay. You said Marizio didn't like her.

And I was like, wait a second. He's playing a long con. He didn't like her? No, no, no. Marizio's father. Rodolfo didn't like Patrizia. Oh, okay. A lot of pronunciation.

I was just going to say there's a lot of different names happening. So like I'm very impressed with how you're doing this right now. She's trying. So yeah. Rodolfo did not want Rizzo and Patrizia to get married because he was like, she's a gold digger. and Briceo was like, well, she also comes for money. And he was like, but you're a Gucci.

You're a Gucci. You're a Gucci. And he threatened Marizio by telling him that if he married her, he'd be out of the family business. And Marizio didn't fucking care and married Patrizia anyways. Ooh, he's a maverick. So Rodolfo eventually came around to the idea. And he didn't want to be disconnected from his only son.

Of course not. Duh. So Marizio continued to work for the family company. And he was bringing in good money. and his father ended up buying him in Patricea a penthouse in New York City. And then they had like multiple other properties. They had a farm in Connecticut, a ski chalet in fucking Switzerland. Damn.

Like they were all over the place. And because of who they were and where they came from, he and Patrizia were very well connected. They hung out with people like Jackie O. Whoa. Literally hanging out with Jackie O. And they were always throwing lavish parties with like tons of well-known guests. And Patrizia's favorite thing to do was the.

parties especially colored theme parties there was one where everybody had to wear either yellow or orange and they only served yellow or orange foods oh which like that's weird macaroni and cheese let's go I was just gonna say it I'm trying to think of all the yellow and orange foods right now pineapple orange and cheese oranges they probably like dyed shit yeah there's probably like a lot of sush I got a lot of sush going on just really rich people doing weird rich people yeah And eventually they had two daughters together, Alessandra in 1977 and Allegra in 1981. Oh, beautiful names. I know.

I love all these names. I know, right? Like, damn. Like, I want to be Italian so bad. Yeah, everything's so pretty. I actually did 23 in me in the hopes to find out that I was Italian and I didn't find out that I was Italian. I am 1.4% Italian. I found out that I have Jewish blood, though.

Yeah, that was interesting. I'm like 7% Jewish. Wow. And then I said that to my dad and he was like, yeah, I know. And I was like, why didn't you tell me? They never told me. Why would you not tell me? But this isn't about me.

This is about Patricia. And over time, she became known as Lady Gucci. Oh, which is kind of funny if you think about what's going on now. Yeah. Because Lady Gaga is playing Lady Gucci. Lady Gaga. Funny. Imagine being known as Lady Gucci.

Like, yes. I'll imagine that every day for the rest of my life. That's just like, yeah. Iconic. Can you imagine? Like, you're just like dripping in Gucci. and people call you Lady Gucci. Yeah.

Being called Lady Anything is really something to aspire to. Do you want me to just call you Lady Elena for me. Yeah, just call me Lady Elena, please. She's not known as Lady Gucci anymore. No? No. But before we get to there, she was like the social one of the couple. And she had a lot of ideas on what to do with the company.

She was always suggesting different things to Maurizio. She wanted him to be more aggressive within the company, probably for the money aspect of it all. She had like a lot of ideas. But he didn't want to hear her ideas and neither did his cousins or his uncles or really his father. They were like, yeah, this is like man's work. These designer bags are man's work. It was like Donner, you know, Rudolph's dad from Rudolph the Reddance Reindeer. Yeah, toxic masculinity all around.

Man's work. Man's work. But Patricia and Marizio's marriage got really rocky all the sudden when Rodolfo passed away. And when his father died, Maritio all of the sudden had that 50% stake in Gucci all to himself. And his uncle and his three cousins are sharing their 50%. So the power. Yeah, the power has shifted. But this happened at a time where Gucci was not doing well at all.

And he and all his cousins had different ideas about what should be going on to fix it. Because Gucci's main problem at the time was that they had over-licensed the business, meaning a lot of stores had opened. And the brand was kind of becoming more and more mainstream, deluded. anybody could really like put Gucci in their windows. Yeah. And that's not what the company was founded on. No.

And it was just becoming less of a luxury brand. And it ended up costing them about $100 million with all those licensing. The bags were also being mass produced at this time. And it was just kind of like really like falling off of what it was. So Maurizio felt like it would be better for him to hone in the reins and bring Gucci back to what it was supposed to be. like super well-crafted leather goods for only the filthy rich and incredibly famous. Obviously. But unfortunately, none of them could agree what to do and things started getting nasty.

So again, they all start finding dirt on one another. Aldo was able to find out at one point that Maurizio was forging his father's signature so that he wouldn't have to pay inheritance taxes. Oh, damn. Yes. So he and his sons made that news public hoping that they would be able to gain back the majority sharing Gucci. It's succession.

It really is. But, so Maritza was found guilty, but later was acquitted. And during that time, he literally fled to his chalet in Switzerland. Yeah, as one does. It's like, wow, way to show your guilt there, by dog. As you do when you're caught doing that shit. Exactly. Also, at one point or another, Paolo pressed his brothers and Maritio with assault charges

because he left a meeting with like this huge gash on his face because things became physical with some of them. There was also one point in time where they were all arguing with each other over the bags and like the people that like cleaned the offices are coming into work and all these Gucci bags are just on the front lawn. Like they were like they thought the place got robbed because there was just all this Gucci merchandise like on the front lawn of the building. They were like, they were just fighting about it.

They're like what the hell? But yeah, they were just fighting about it. Wow. So yeah. Clearly things were exploding and Maurizio needed. to find a better way to make it so that the company was solely his. So he started getting on the phone and talking to different investment companies. And over time, he became connected with Investco.

Okay. Investco was founded in 1982. And according to their website, they are, quote, a leading global manager of alternative investments with six lines of businesses, including private equity, real estate, absolute return investments, infrastructure, credit management, and strategic capital. Yeah. All gibberish to me. I knew all of that.

Yeah, I don't know. But when Maurizio got a hold of them, they already owned pretty powerful and luxurious companies, like Tiffany's. That's a pretty powerful and luxurious company, I'd say. I'd say so. So he felt confident that with their help, he'd be able to bring his visions for Gucci to life. Yeah. So Investco ended up buying Aldo and his remaining son's shares of Gucci for about $135 million in 1988. Whoa. So bought them out of the company. Wow. So now Maurizio is he owns.

He's the sole owner. He's the, well, kind of, but like, Investco also owns part of it. Yeah. Because they bought their. But now it's out of the, the rest of the family's hand. Yeah. So Investco ended up owning 47.8% of Gucci. And Maurizio basically owned the rest and became chairman.

He's the, he's chairman. Yeah. And like, he just wins. And what is it called when you're like, you own majority? Majority share. Yeah, majority share. It was like majority share. What is the most of it?

What are the words that are coming out? But the problem with this entire arrangement here is that Mauritio is not that business savvy. No? And Gucci was still not doing very well. Petrizia said that when Marizio was running the business alongside his family, he listened to a lot of her ideas. But once his father died and he got the idea to run the business on his own, I think it kind of got to his head and things changed. and things changed and especially in their marriage, like it started to get even rockier. So one day he told her and his daughters that he had to go on an overnight business trip.

He had one bag packed and he headed out the door saying bye to the mall and he literally just never came back. What? Just packed an overnight bag said I'm going on a business trip and never came back. What? Yes, I didn't know any of this. I had no idea. When I started digging into this, I was like, I'm sorry.

Hoh. You're like, wait, what? He just never came back. Just never came back to them. She said that the family's doctor passed along the message that Maurizio would not be coming back. Oh, oh, thank you. So like, have your checkup, your heart is doing well, your blood pressure could

use some work and your husband's never coming back. So maybe we should recheck all that again. Like, I'm sorry. And apparently one day Maritio told Patricia, excuse me, Patricia, do you know why our marriage failed? because you fancied yourself the president and here there is only one president. Oh, she said that he said that. But he might have.

He sounds very theatrical. Sounds the most theatrical. There can only be one Highlander. Yeah. So, yeah. When Bariccio left his family, he actually rekindled a couple of relationships. But the main one was with a woman named Paola Franci, the Frenchie, excuse me. But it would be quite sometimes.

between when he left Patrizia and when their divorce would actually become finalized, their divorce took almost 10 years to become finalized. Oh, that's a fucking nightmare. And the reason was because Petrizia was not going to settle for just anything. During the early years of the divorce, Marizio's lawyers offered her a settlement of 2.5 million plus 650,000 per year. And her response to that was that it was, quote, a mere bowl of lentils. your 2.5 million plus $650,000 a year is a plate of lentils.

Ma'am, no. That's so far from a plate of lentils. Damn, that's a plate of caviar. That's a Titanic-sized chip full of lentils. More. Just to begin. Way more. Just as the appetizer.

Like, that's just like, that's just the bread. That's not even the appetizer. Wow. 2.5 billion. mere bowl of lentils. Like, wow, I want to live your life, ma'am. Wow. Yeah.

So when the, you know what? You don't. No, you actually don't. Like you think about it, you're like, how out of touch you are. Like, damn. Like, you are, you have sailed away. Any common sense you have. Sail away, sail away, sail away.

And you said it best. You, any common sense you have. It is gone. You could be like, I'm going to be seen again. I'm going to give you a whole. hundred dollars a year and I'd be like awesome. I'd be literally like hell yeah. Let's go. It's like honestly her common sense is like Marizio that day that he just was like bye. I'm going for an overnight trip and he just never

came back. Bye forever. That's her common sense. Honestly. Damn. But when the divorce was finalized in 1991, her final settlement landed at about $900,000. Jeez. And she still was not happy. She's like it's not a million. Yeah, literally. So she was also particularly angry with the way that Marizio was running Gucci at this point. He hired a new designer, Tom Ford. I don't know if you've heard of him.

No. Yeah, I don't know. He's fucking Tom Ford. He sounds like kind of like a little, he's like an amateur. Yeah, exactly. He actually, well, he was. At that point. He actually was.

But now he's credited with leading Gucci to their golden era. Hell yeah. He definitely did. When he took over as creative director, Maritio felt like they needed to get. rid of a lot of merch that they already had. And while that was a good move creatively, it was a very expensive move to just get rid of a lot of bags and shoes that were no longer deemed fashionable. Oh my God. Like, that's taking probably the biggest L you could take. That kind of thought process,

just like, these aren't cool anymore because I say so. Right. Like, that's, I mean, that's literally fashion. But, but like, what if I like it? Like, it's not. I mean, fashion changes every season. It's so strange to me that it's just like, no, I said so. It's fascinating. It's not cool anymore. Yeah. But I think it is.

Like, it's so weird how like, and we just, we just fall in line. We just listen to it. It is weird. It's like the Miranda Priestley in Devil Wears Prada when she goes on the big rant about like the cerulean belts. Oh my gosh, yes. And like how it affects every day of life. It's literally like a butterfly effect.

But it is. It truly is. I'm like, When I was working on Newberry Street, I learned so much about fashion just based on the people that I was working with. And I had this one mentor, Timmy, if you're listening, I love you. And you should be listening to this because you love Gucci. And he taught me so much of just about like how everything works. And it really is fascinating.

It really is. It was like my Miranda Priestling moment. But anyway, so yeah, they needed to get rid of like a lot of stuff and they took a big L. And this also happened during a time where Gucci was like heading toward bankruptcy. Oh, damn. They were. I didn't know they were at all. Neither did I. Ever rocketing towards bankruptcy. At this point in time, they were like head first

toward bankruptcy. Like on a comet straight towards bankruptcy. Literally. But Marizio didn't seem bothered by that and he was still spending like he was used to. Yeah, he's like, send in the Armageddon boys. Let's do this. He's like, I don't give a single fuck. The company headquarters in Florence and Milan were incredibly expensive to keep up with. He and Paola were living in a lavish Milan apartment that cost a quarter of a million dollars per year. For rent. What? And it was also decked out with like crazy art and like different trinkets.

There was tiger shit everywhere. Oh yeah. You know it. He also owned a yacht, which clearly costs a lot of money to keep up with. I feel like that's just like one of those rich people things that everyone just gets a yacht just to be like, I got a yacht. Like no one actually just like they just all have to get a yacht. I'm like that's like a money pit. That's just it really is.

A boat is a money pit. It is, but like a yacht. A yacht. A yacht? A yacht? A yacht? Why does it spell like that? I don't know.

English is weird. You're supposed to say yacht. Yeah. Ha. But yeah, he was making a lot of dumb decisions. He was also like investing in like gambling, like casinos and stuff like that. It's like, yeah, it's not the best idea. I did a financial planet.

I literally like, you run Gucci, my guy. Yeah. But Patrizia was also worried that he and Paola were going to get married. And if they did get married, she was specifically worried that they were going to have children because Patrizia would be losing a lot. At that point, she wasn't only living off the money that she got in her divorce settlement, but also the money that her two daughters were getting as the fucking heirs to Gucci. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That'll do it. And if they like, if him and Paola had children together, there would be more heirs to Gucci, meaning less money for

her to live off of. Yeah, and that's like totally her business. Yeah, you know. Procreate. Yeah, totally. I mean, she basically just didn't want to see like another kid come along and mess up her meal ticket. Yeah, which is like, we looked up. But for her, the hits just kept coming. Yeah. Because, you know, Maritio could not get control over that company at all. And in 1994, he ended up selling his remaining share to invest co.

For, it's, I see different things, different places. I've seen anywhere from 120 to 130 million. Damn. So no Gucci works at Gucci anymore. Wow. It's not family owned anymore. I did not know that. Yeah, no, neither did I.

I don't know why I would have known that. I don't either, but I still think it's weird. I feel like I should, I don't know. It feels like something we should know. Right. Like I feel like there's no way I would have known that. There's no opportunity for me to know that. No.

But I still feel like I should have known that. I feel remiss. I do too. I don't know why. No Gucci. And this was for the first time since 1921. Wow. That's crazy.

Yeah. And I mean, it's a big fucking deal. That's also sad. It is very sad. Like it's sad for the original. Guchio. Yeah, it's sad for Guccio. It was funny. I was watching a couple documentaries for this, and there was a woman in one of them, and she said a lot of times with family companies, the third generation is where it gets fucked up. The third generation is where they just go all here.

Yeah, it was interesting. I was like, I kind of want to look more into that and see if it's like some kind of like a pattern here. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. So yeah, that was the first time since 1921. It's so crazy. So obviously Patrizia was fucking livid. Yeah. That was the final straw. She later said about this decision, quote, I was angry with Maurizio about many, many things at that time. But above all, this, losing the family business, it was stupid.

It was a failure. I was filled with rage. But there was nothing I could do. He shouldn't have done that to me. Oh. The end is so dark. I don't like that. I'm like, okay.

Yeah. All right. It's just like, oh, it just wasn't a good. And you're like, yeah, it wasn't. Like, losing the family business is so sad. He shouldn't have done that to me. And you're like, oh, oh, okay. I'm also like, that wasn't your family business.

Well, that's, I'm like, that wasn't to you. No, girl. But like she felt like it was a personal attack. Absolutely. So once the business was sold, she started talking to any and everybody about how she wanted to off this man. Yeah, she wanted him. She did.

She talked to the police. Can you imagine just walking around talking about how you're going to kill your ex-husband a father of your children. Girl, are you ready? For selling shares of a company? Like, what? That is his family's company? It has actually nothing to do with you. You're actually divorced and you get $900,000 a year. Like, okay. At a birthday party for her daughter, her, like, a ton of people were there and her lawyer was there. And she asked her lawyer what would happen if she, quote, got rid of Mr. Gucci. That's murder. You get in trouble for that. I think he, like, kind of just like pushed that to the side. I like how she asked a lawyer. Like, I need your real. You know. Like, I need your real. You. You get in trouble for that. I can tell you. I think he's a lawyer. Like, like, I need you're

real legal advice. Like, you could have asked somebody on the street and they'd tell you the same that you're going to get in trouble. She probably did ask somebody on the street that day, too. She saw him again a month later and she asked him again what her fate would be should she off the father of her children. And he actually got to the point where he sent her a letter formally asking her to stop talking the way she was. Oh, man. Like the formal correspondence. Because he's like, I don't really want my next meeting with you to be in a courtroom defending you for capital murder. He's like, yeah, I'm actually all set. But that did not stop her. She would ask her cleaner if her husband knew anybody that would take care of Maurizio.

She said of the whole thing, quote, I have to admit that for a time, I truly wanted to get rid of him. I wanted to do it. And so I was going around asking for people to do it. But my intentions ended there, a mere obsession, a mere desire. What wife has never said, I'd kill that guy? Me. I've never said that.

I wrote in my notes. I'm not a wifey just yet, but, uh, me. I can, yep, I can save. say we're coming up on 10 years I have not once thought of murdering John or having someone else murder John I'd kill that guy never have I said I'd kill that guy ever I can tell you because like the whole point of mirage is that you don't want that guy to get killed or kill him yeah no I don't want that at all yeah same so wrong Patricio Patrizia is wilded but maraccio didn't seem to be scared at all about her set an interest in having him killed I don't know what he thought if maybe

he just thought she wasn't actually capable of doing it or what. Yeah, you have to think, like, who thinks that's serious? But if somebody was talking to every fucking Tom, Dick and Harry about killing me, I'd go somewhere else. Well, I understand just, like, not grasping the fact that someone's that crazy. Of course. Especially someone you were married to and had children with. Yeah.

But on her end, I also wouldn't think that, like, somebody would just, like, say they're going on a business trip and never come back. That's true. I forgot he did that. Yeah, he did that. So much shit is going down. I'm forgetting what's going on. Lots of, I mean, somebody sent their 81-year-old father to prison. Yeah, like, holy shit, and I forgot that.

Gucci's. Too much Gucci's. But so Maritio, not scared. Paola, his partner there, scared. Yeah, Palma, I feel you. Not feeling it. She said of Patrizia, quote, Patrizia was stalking us. She still had spies in Maurizio's circle, and she knew all about our plans, his business dealings and everything. She called many times abusing him and threatening to kill him. I begged him to hire a body.

guard, but he refused. He didn't believe Patrizia would go through with her threat because of their girls. Oh, that's really sad. Of course it is. The way I just said that, I was like, obviously, Elena. You're like, yeah, it is. Okay. I'm like, yeah, it is. Okay. It is really sad. So, around this time, Patrizia's friend, Giuseppina Aoriemma. I think I did good with that. You did great. I think I'm Italian, essentially. I think you are. Every Italian is like, ma'am, you are not. You are not. But so Patrizza, her best friend, Giusepina Auriima, was living with her so that she could help Patrizia write a book about her marriage and the time spent within the Gucci family.

Now, that was in 1994. And two years previously, Patrizia actually had been diagnosed with a brain tumor. Oh, wow. So luckily the tumor was benign, but they still obviously had to remove it. And after surgery, she felt like she needed help making sure to remember certain things when it came to writing the book. So that's where Giusepina came in. We'll just refer to her as Pina, because that's like how they referred to her. This surgery was also one of the things that drove Patrizia's hatred toward Maurizio because she felt like he abandoned her when he didn't show up to

this surgery. In all reality, though, the doctors had told him not to come because they were like, that's going to stress her out and we're removing a brain tumor. So that's not great. So you can't really have her in that state. But she woke up and she saw that he had sent fly. with like just a very cold note like feel better Mauritio yeah whatever because you know they're divorced yeah but she was outraged that he didn't come to her that like the note was so cold I think for her that was like a final fuck you uh oh like he sold the business and she took that as a fuck you he left her and she took that as a fuck you and I think a lot of these things like she was taking personally because later on she was actually diagnosed as a narcissist so she took like

everything personally that makes sense yeah so there This was like not good. But anyways, while Pina was living with Patrizia, Patrizia was going on and on still about how she wanted Mr. Gucci dead. She asked Pina if Pina knew anybody who was going to be willing to do this. And she enlisted her help in trying to find somebody. So Pina was like, I don't know if I know anybody that would want to kill somebody, but like I'll try to help you out, literally.

So then she thought. Who answers that way? I mean, that's not a direct quote, but like kind of. But I'd be like who's just like, who's not like no? No. Pina. She was like, actually, so I don't know if I know somebody who would pull the trigger, but I do know somebody that might be able to help us.

Now, this man's name was Ivano Savione. He worked at a really seedy hotel where Pina had stayed before. Even though she was friends with Patrizia, she did not come from the same walk of life. She, like, struggled. So when Pina reached out to Ivano, he said he knew someone who could help. And he called a pizza man that he knew named Orezio Sicala. Wow. A pizza man.

Wow. Now, Arrasio, a pizza man. Now, Arrasio would not be the one to carry out the hit either, but he knew a guy. Oh, we're getting too deep here. And I believe this man was a neighbor of his who was a mechanic. Yeah. And his name was, I'm going to try this one. I couldn't find a pronunciation.

Benedetto Cerulo. Yep, that's it. He was going to be the man who would pull the trigger. There's too many people involved here. That is like one of the most often commented. There's literally like five people involved in this. Understatement of the century. And like one of them is like a pizza delivery.

Yeah. One is a mechanic. One works at a hotel. We've gotten way too far down the line of people. And it's just too many people who know. And you've involved too many people. Way too many people. That ends up being the downfall.

So he wanted a certain price though. His price would be six million. Wow. He wanted a down payment of 150 million. I mean, they want him to kill the air of the original air of Gucci. I mean, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you might as well shoot for the stars, I suppose. And that 150 million, that was in like Italian currency.

So it would be 365,000 US dollars at the time. Oh, okay. So when Pina went back to tell Petrizia the plan, she agreed to the price and they started working out the details. This is so fucked up. It's fucked. So at first it was kind of like Pina and Ivano and all the other players figuring it out and Petrizio was kind of like held away from it all. And then it wasn't happening as fast as Patrizio wanted. And Patrizio was like, no, get me his number.

Like let me call him. And she got the shit moving. Wow. So on Monday morning, March 27th, Maurizio Gucci was walking to his office at Via Palestro 20 to get some work done. Now the doorman, Giuseppe Honorato said, quote, Mr. Gucci arrived carrying some magazines, which is like super weird to me because Versace was carrying magazines and newspapers. Am that creepy?

Oh, that is weird. And said, good morning. Then I saw a hand. It was a beautiful, clean hand. And it was pointing a gun. So before he could realize what was happening, that hand pulled the trigger three times, shooting Maurizio Gucci in the back. And then for good measure, the trigger was pulled once more.

And the shot entered the back of Mauritio's head. Oh, damn. Yeah. The gunman then pointed the trigger at the doorman, and at first Giuseppe thought it was like a joke. And then he was actually shot once in the arm. But instead of worrying for himself, he went over to Maurizio Gucci and held him as he was dying. He like literally, Marizio Gucci took his last breath in that man's arms. Oh, that's so sad.

And Maritio was 46 years old. Jesus. Crazy. So young. It's crazy young. So when words spread that the fucking air to Gucci had been gunned down in broad daylight in the middle of Milan, people were shocked. And a lot of them had a lot of different ideas about who could have done this, what could have happened. Marizio's cousin Palo thought that it could have been someone that Marizio was in debt to.

I was going to say that's a good thought. And some people, and actually even the investigators early on, wondered if this was some kind of mob hit. There was also rumors that it was some kind of family vendetta since everybody knew about the turmoil that I'd gone down over the years. But a lot of people, including Maurizio's partner, Paola, also had the right idea and knew that this murder had Patrizia's name written all over it. I was going to say, I hope someone was like, hey, guys. Hey, that lady that's been talking about killing him for literally years. You know, that person who has literally gone to the ends of the earth talking about how she can kill this man. and asking people to do it.

I feel like we should question her about it. Yeah. Now, the investigators obviously thought she might have had something to do with it too. But they had no way of proving it because all they had was a description of the man who carried out the shooting. The doorman said that the man looked to be about 40 to 45 years old and was wearing a baseball hat and a denim jacket. And he said he had dark hair. And then witnesses also saw a green car speeding away from the scene, but that was all. Wow.

Butresia did multiple interviews after Gucci's murder. She claimed her innocence. But the problem was, like, she didn't seem sad at all. Like, she barely cried at his funeral, like, barely shed a tear. Come on. And was dressed impeccably. But the day after the murder, Paola got a knock at her door, and she was served eviction papers.

The day after Mauritio died, Paola gets served with eviction papers. And when she looked through these papers, she saw that they were notarized. three hours after Maurizio had been killed. Yes. There was nothing she could do, though, because there weren't any laws to protect for her from something like this because they weren't married and they weren't engaged or anything like that. So she had to pack her shit up and she had a young son and they had to get out of there.

And it was Patrizia who did this, obviously. And with that, Patrizia and her two daughters moved into that apartment. What? Yes. I had no idea. Yes. served eviction papers the next day and was like, get out. And actually, very sad. Paulus' son ended up committing suicide later in his life. Oh, that's so sad. And he was only 16 years old.

Oh, man. Obviously, this murder, like, really affected him. Yeah. And just, like, obviously other things, I'm sure. But so sad. I felt so... Yeah, that's really sad for her. And she was, like, really painted as a gold digger, too, in the media. Like, when they first got together, I think it's... And she said she was like, that's hilarious because the man that I love... left him to be with was like 10 times richer. So she's like, fuck all y'all. But Patrizia would have quite some time to enjoy her life with Gucci not in it anymore because for two years this case went cold.

How is she? Like, I'm sorry. How did they not immediately figure out it was her? They just didn't have anything to connect it to her. I feel like there was like a thousand ways to figure out it was her. I think like they definitely knew that it was her, but they just didn't have the evidence. Nothing. Like it wouldn't have held up in court.

until one night January 8th, 1997, Felipeu Ni, I think I said that wrong and I'm really sorry, he was the head of police for Lombardia and he got a phone call from a man named Gabriela Carpenaise. Gabriela said that he had been spending some time at this really seedy hotel right outside Milan. Huh. And that one of the workers there had been mouthing off about how he was the one who had found the guy that killed Gucci. Whoa. So he said that means, name, that man's name was Ivano Savioni. Uh-oh. We're unraveling. The question was, how were they going

to get Ivano to confess without screwing this whole thing up? So, they were able to find out that Patrizia actually still owed money for the hit and that Ivano was getting really pissed off and was looking for someone to threaten her to give him the money. Wow. Or like actually end up killing her. So they had an undercover police officer pretend that he was interested in the job. And he found out everything he needed to know. I love it. They taped a ton of the conversations. He wore a wire. They wiretapped everybody involved all of their phones. And there were tons of incriminating conversations going on. So finally, January 31st, 1997, all five involved in the hit were arrested. Oh my God. This is like insane. It's crazy. I just can't believe how this

unravels. Me either. And when police arrived at Treasy is home, or should I say Gucci and Paola's home? It was 4.30 in the morning. They were like, they hit her with those like, hey, you're arrested. Hey, in the middle of the night. And she said, could you just wait a minute? And they said, sure. I don't really know why they said so. I was going to say. But they gave her some time to get herself together. And when she was finally ready for her arrest, she came down dripping in diamonds and gold jewelry and a floor length black mink coat. It's a fucking, it's a, it's a, it is a movie. But like, I have, I have no words.

Patrisia. Sis. Come on, girlfriend. What are you doing? So she told the police, I have nothing to do with this. And then they were like, yeah, Pina kind of told us everything to get a lesser sentence. And you were talking about it for like multiple years to about a thousand million people. And these like wiretapped phone conversations with your voice on them.

Yeah. Yeah, they tell a different story. But the main thing was that Pina turned on her and told them everything because obviously Pina wanted a lighter sentence. So she turned on Pina. Now, she said that she was tired of Pena said, excuse me, that she was tired of Petrizia asking her to find somebody. And at this point, she was down on her luck and she needed the money. So Patrizia said that Pina had actually blackmailed her into paying this money. And she didn't know that she had actually paid somebody to carry out a hit.

I mean, how would you know? She just had to give her this money. It's an easy mix-up. It's always, I mean, that always happens to me. Yeah, it's like I just get blackmailed and get somebody $350,000. And then I just don't know why. I don't realize that it's to formulate a hit on my ex-husband. Who owns Gucci or did at one point. Man. Yeah. So hard. But what really ended up thinking, like, everybody shipped to you was that orizio Sicala, the guy who drove the getaway car made a full concession. Oh, damn. Because he's just like, I was a pizza. He was like, you know what? He was like, you know what? He's just actually on the route that night. I don't really know what happened. He's like, I'm not. I don't want to be part of this. He's like, I'm old. Like, can we not? Can we not, guys?

Can we just, can we just really just blow through this? So Petrizia obviously realized that her whole, like, I don't know anything about this act was not working. So she and her lawyers came up with the idea to use that brain surgery to their advantage. They said that there was no way she could have been able to come up with this plan. She was recovering from brain surgery. Of course. Now, the problem in that defense was that multiple people involved had already confessed.

Petruzia had talked to many, many people over the year. saying that she wanted to kill Gucci. And throughout the investigation, they found some interesting entries in her Cardié diary. Her Cartier diary. Her Cardier diary. There was one entry the day that she had her brain surgery that said, Vendetta. Oh, remember how upset she was that Maurizio didn't show up. And then a rather haunting entry on the day that Mauritio was killed just said,

Paredesios, the Greek word for paradise. Wow. Yeah. This is not real. No, it is, though. This is not real. I also said Paradisios, but it's actually just paradisos. Okay, you know?

I tried. You made it more flowery. I like it. This is not real. It is. How is this real? She wrote Paradise the day that he was killed. Vendetta and Paradise.

Like, come on, man. Unreal. I'm speechless. And like all of the wiretubbed phone conversations. And all of that. So she tried to say that she actually just liked the word a lot and wanted to name her next villa that. But nobody was convinced. I'm literally obsessed with that defense, though.

I just like that word. I'm literally obsessed with that. She's like, I actually just want to name my next place that. It's an awesome word. It's a Gucci word. I like it. Paradisos. It's really fun to say paradisles.

The Italian language is so beautiful. Gorgeous, I want to speak it. That's why all their names are so beautiful because they just sound pretty coming up the tongue. Imagine if her fucking name was Paula. Yeah, just imagine. I would never stop introducing myself to people. Any Paola's out there? Like, hi, I'm Paola.

Get it. Just get it. Get it. Get it, Paola. It also reminds me of the Lizzie McGuire movie. Thank you. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Thank you. I got that from Elise on TikTok. If you don't watch her, you're crazy. Oh, you got to watch Elise. Oh, thank you. Anyways, in November of 1998, everybody involved in the hit was getting sentenced because they were all like, yeah, you all did this. We have, of course, everything that we need to.

Sloppy as hell. So because Pina confessed, she got a plea deal and she was only sentenced to 25 years, which is still a lot of time. Yeah, that's actually surprising. It is. Ivano Savioni got 26 years for his involvement. Erizio Sicala was sentenced to 29 years, which is correct. He was like the getaway driver and he got more time than the guy who actually organized us. I was going to say, yeah, I mean, because it's like a more active role, I guess.

Yeah, true. And then Benedetto, Saulo got a life sentence. Whoa. And Patrizia received 29 years. Now, this is a fucking iconic. On the day that all of these people were sentenced, the Gucci stores in Italy all hung silver handcuffs in their windows. Stop it.

Allegedly. No, they did. Thanks. I refuse to believe that they didn't. You will never prove to me that they didn't. Because, like, Gucci, the company, like, really tried to just, like, shy away from any kind of involvement in this. It'd be terrible for their brand.

Yeah. But like if they did that, like can you confirm? Did you live in Italy during this time? Yeah, confirm. Even if it didn't happen, please confirm it. Please confirm. Please confirm that because I need to know that that happened. Yes, I do too.

And also in addition to her sentence, Patrizia was also ordered to pay that doormand, Giuseppe, 142,000 lira. Oh, wow. He said he has not seen a penny of that money to this day. And because he didn't have much money in the first place, he had to go back to work there. Oh, come on. At the same place where he watched a man die and was also shot twice. And like held him while he died. Like talk about PTSD.

You have to go back there every day. And how has he not seen a penny of that? Come on. That happens. Who's working on that? It happens all the time, though. Like people are sentenced to pay people and they just don't. That's fucked.

It is fucked. Oh, wait, just wait. But while she was in prison, her lawyers made it so that she was able to bring her pet ferret named Bambi with her. Come on, everybody. God, like, a ferret named Bambi. A pet ferret named Bambi in prison. Yeah, she stayed with her a while, Bambi and her together.

But then this is really sad. Animal sadness warning. Animal sadness? Animal sadness warning. Because Bambi died when another inmate sat on her. Sat on the ferret. Like, that's really mean. I don't know if it was intentional or not.

It may have been an accident. But either way it's fucked. That's terrible. That's why ferrets don't belong in prison, guys. Yeah, that's why Bambi didn't get sentenced, man. You did. Yeah. Exactly.

Thank you. Yeah. Now, Patrizia was also attacked in prison on multiple occasions. But at the same time, she also turned down multiple chances to gain parole. The reason being because she would have to get a job if she was on parole, and she said, quote, I've never worked at my life and I don't intend to start now. Ew. She also has said other crazy things.

Oh, are you ready for an even ear ear ear? She also said, quote, I would rather weep in a Rolls Royce than be happy on a bicycle. Wow. Like, she is. I told you it's. Rodolfo was correct. She is like money hungry. Yeah.

Common sense, logic, smarts just on a ship. Out the window. Sail away. Sail away. Sail away. At Enya. That's called credit. But she appealed her sentence while she was in prison once.

She again tried to use that brain tumor defense thing. Stop. But her conviction was upheld. They did knock three years off the sentencing. And after her appeal, she tried to commit suicide actually by hanging herself in her cell with a bed sheet. But luckily, she was rescued before being able to do so. Damn. So ultimately, all in all, she ended up serving 18 years of her sentence because she got credit for

behavior. That's not enough. And guess what? She is still making money off of the Gucci estate. That's horrifying. She is still, I repeat, making money off of the Gucci estate. In 2017, she got an annuity of almost $1 million a year for the rest of her life from Gucci's estate. That's horrible. And she's owed back payments from the time that she was in prison, adding up to about 21.3 million U.S. dollars. What? How? Back payments for when she was in prison for murdering Gucci.

Gucci owes her money from the time that she was in prison for murdering Gucci. Real life guys. Make it make sense. Now, she would have to be paid that money from her two daughters, who she no longer speaks to. I was wondering how that was going. Because they run the estate now. And they appealed the ruling, but they're actually still waiting to hear whether or not the Italian Supreme Court will side with them or their mother. Come on.

And Patrizia said of her relationship with her daughters, quote, we are going through a very bad time now. They don't understand me. And I've cut off my financial support. I have nothing. I haven't even met my two grandsons. Honey, you had their dad murdered. Yeah. Like, they don't understand you.

That's probably a good thing. Yeah. I don't. Wow. Oh, she's like outrageously out of touch. Dillusionally. Outrageously. But these days, because she has to work, she's working for a jewelry company named Bozart as a design consultant.

And people see her shopping around sometimes, especially when she first got out of prison. She was shopping in like one of the most like expensive places you could possibly shop like in Milan, Italy, with a macaw on her shoulder. She just, you know, she just wanted to blend right back in. Just really wanted to make a seamless. She just wanted to just whoop seamlessly back into society with her fucking macaugh on her shoulder. Yeah. And she told the Guardian, quote, if I could see Maurizio again, I would tell him that I love him because he is the person who mattered most to me in my life.

I think he'd say the feeling isn't mutual. Well, I mean, the delusion kind of rang back there. I was going to say, wow, she stopped at port real quick. She did for a quick minute. And then took off sailing away. And that is the story of father, son, and house of Gucci. Wow. Craziness.

No wonder they made that a movie. I haven't even seen the movie yet. Those poor daughters. Oh, I feel so terrible for them. I feel terrible for them. And at one point in time, actually, the younger daughter Allegra went to law school to try to help her mom, like, fight her conviction. Yeah. Yeah.

But then she, I think she slowly started to realize, like, what actually happened. Yeah. Man, that's really sad. It's so sad all around. What a, damn. There's a lot of, like, other darkness, too, that I didn't get into regarding, like, other family members and, like, through the generations. It's, like, drama, like, sexual assault, molestation, like, really heavy dark shit. Damn.

It just didn't really pertain to, like, this side of it. Yeah, you want to stay on track, but. Oh, damn. Shit is dark. Now I know why they made a movie out of it. I can't wait to see it. Adam Driver, Lady Gaga. Let's go.

Gagga. Gagga. I'm all about with Gagga. Oh, by the way, Patrizia, I'm sure you know, if you, like, have been paying attention to this at all, is pissed because Lady Gaga did not reach out to her. And she was like, how can she play me? She's never met me. How?

And it's like, well, you're like a murderer adjacent, so. Adjacent. I don't, you're like, I don't know. I love that. She's like, how did she not reach out to me? It's like, ma'am. Ma'am. Ma'am.

Ma'a does not need to talk to you. Like you said, she is murder adjacent. I don't need to talk to you. Get away from me. I can figure it out. Lady Gaga is so pure. Yeah, we don't need her anywhere near Gagga. No.

But apparently she does a really good patricia. I heard she was amazing in it. I am dying, especially knowing what I know now. Oh, yeah. Let's fucking go. I know now that you told me the story. I'm like, I want to see it now. I wish they were doing it like so it would go to your TV.

Like in like the height of the panorama. Can we make everything just come to my TV? Because like, it's not over yet. There's a new variant and shit. Give me it to Peacock. Can you just just whoop deliver it to my peacock app? Just zoop. Boop.

That's what they did with Halloween kills. Zoop. Was it great movie? No. Was it worth it? But it was there. It was there. It's all that means.

It showed up. Just beam it into my TV, please. Come on. Come on. Just asking for a friend. I don't even know who we're talking to, but like, we're like, come on. The gods. Come on, man.

Just do it. Just the man. The man. Why is that it? No, no. Like, I'm going to open up a box. And Nora's box. But yeah, we hope you keep listening.

Yeah, and we hope you keep it. Weir. But that's a way that you try to hire a hitman to kill your husband and tell everybody involved. Don't do that. Don't try to hire a hitman, period. For anybody. Never. Yeah.

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